The Ringer NFL Show - 'GM Street' — Week 12 Rapid Reactions (Ep. 191)
Episode Date: November 27, 2017The Ringer's Michael Lombardi and Tate Frazier discuss the Raiders' bout with the Broncos, fistfight and all (3:05); the Rams' hard-fought win over the Saints (7:05); and the Falcon's progression (16:...15) and the Chiefs' lack thereof (19:05). Then they talk about Jimmy G's first touchdown in San Francisco (25:05) and close out with some awards (28:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to GM Street part of the Ringer Podcast Network.
I am Tate Fraser, live in the studio in Los Angeles,
and in a remote location somewhere in the Los Angeles County.
Mr. Mike Lombardi, how you doing?
I'm great, Tate Frazier.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Everything good.
You're back home, everything good?
Everything's good.
It took me an hour to get an Uber at the airport today at L.A.X
Because apparently today is the busiest day to travel in the world.
The worst day to travel in the world, especially at Los Angeles airport.
It was terrible, but I got back.
I saw my family.
North Carolina was beautiful, as always, and I'm glad to be back.
I watched a lot of football.
I watched a lot of college basketball, and ate a lot of food.
So how was your Thanksgiving?
Do you eat a lot of pie?
It was great to stand out here, watch football game.
I think, you know, I think Godfather 1 and 2 were off, which were the rewatchables on the Godfather.
But having the Godfather, you know, Sonny's going to the Toll Plaza, you know, the quarterback gets knocked out.
You know, I mean, there's always going to be the clapper.
You know, I mean, it was just so.
What I like the most about it, it didn't.
put guys. There's no need to watch three.
We'll stop it too.
Philip Rivers, though, we should say. He was like the Francis Ford Coppola
of our Thanksgiving Day.
He just dominated the Cowboys and then Clapper.
The poor Clapper. Tough Turkey Day for him.
Yeah, and then the report comes out today.
The players are all pissed off. He doesn't adjust.
And then Philip Rivers adds salt to the wound by saying
that I knew everything that they were going to do on defense.
Well, of course, everybody knows what they're going to do on defense in Dallas.
I mean, I think, you know, the one thing about this whole notion
about knowing what to do is a little bit overrated
because if you don't have any tendencies, you can't be any good,
the problem with the Cowboys' defense is they're used to play in 26, 27, 28 minutes
a night.
You know, now that they can't convert third downs on offense,
now that they have no explosive plays on offense,
now that they can't score on offense,
the defense has got to play 32, 33 minutes.
That defense wasn't built to play.
That defense was built to complement the offense.
And so offense is not playing good.
No, no, no.
The defense is there to complement the offense in Dallas.
And when the offense breaks down and play good for 26, 27 minutes, after that, no.
Well, let's get into the games that happened today.
Obviously, Thanksgiving was a few days ago.
We saw the Lions make a valiant effort, but the Vikings get a big win.
Obviously, the Cowboys struggle, and then the Redskins are the only team to win,
the only home team to win.
But starting today, the big story came out of Oakland.
We have the Oakland Raiders taking on the Denver Broncos, and there was a big fight.
Michael Crabtree and Akie and Akie to leave have a bit of a history last year.
we saw Keep-Talib grab Crabtree's chain out of his jersey and started a little scuffle.
And today it went full-throttle and ended up with Crabtree.
I think they both got thrown out of the game, correct?
They both did the axing got thrown out of the game, which really game shouldn't have gotten thrown out of the game.
Donald Penn initiated.
Oh, yes, Penn.
Oh, yes, he should have gotten thrown out of the game.
They got their helmets on.
The fight continued.
And the lead off the field, it doesn't look like a match.
Absolutely.
My biggest gripe, and as always has been with these fights, like Crabtree has his helmet off.
but keep Delebe still has his helmet on,
and he's throwing punches, and, you know,
Talib just stand there, taking him.
Just hold off on the punches, save him.
Take his helmet off, make it a fair fight
if you're going to throw punches.
I don't understand it.
That's my only great.
Don't throw punches, but if you do, make sure the helmet's off.
Lebe and Crabtree should get suspended for another game.
I mean, I know that there's always talk.
Well, no, I think this was pretty bad,
and I think the discipline, the lack of discipline on the Raiders,
is pretty, and then you've got to say the same,
only in the game to go up seven and nothing,
and they ruled it down on the one-yard line,
and then they gave them another chance to throw a three,
and you've got to be really worried about your future of your team.
And your team is older on defense.
It's not going to be as good, and you're not very good on offense.
And you've got to wonder where you're going.
And they've got no quarterback.
I mean, they kept showing Elway in the boxes.
That tends to be the Broncos number one thing to do now.
Obviously, call the team soft, and then they've responded by starting fights
and acting out at this point.
But it came into the season, and everyone was like,
we think we have an abundance of quarterbacks.
You know, Trevor Simian looks better than we thought.
and we have Paxson Lynch, who was the third quarterback taken in the draft.
And now, not third overall, but the third quarterback taken in the last year's draft.
And now it looks like they just have no quarterback, and they're obviously going to have to find
someone for the future because at this point, I mean, they have no offense at all.
You're a Bronco fan.
You're at the Raider Stadium.
You should learn this.
No guy, I've said this repeatedly.
Like, Elway, it's a wonderful.
He's a Hall of Fame player's tremendous.
Controlled by the president.
It's got to be controlled by the coat.
You get done, never get done on the field.
in the mafia, there's too many buffers between you and the players.
And when that happens, it's not very good.
So the future is not very right for the Denver Broncos.
The dynamic, pretty pissed off at him because he looked like he's got anything under control of his team,
and it was pretty obvious on that field today.
Well, the good news for John Elway is that the Stanford Cardinal got to win last night against Notre Dame.
So he has something, something good happens.
I mean, I understand.
There's always a little bit of, you know, it's a little bit of hope somewhere.
Yep, exactly.
Let's move on.
The Los Angeles Rams, they get a big win.
I mean, that was the big matchup in the NFC this week.
The Rams take on the Saints out here in L.A.
The Rams show up big.
Jared Gough has a great game.
Todd Gurley really, you know, keeps it going and keeps it rolling.
And I got to say this, Cooper Cup, I had my doubts.
But, I mean, he seems like a legitimate receiver right now.
And that one-two combo of golfing Cup seems pretty unstoppable.
And this Rams offense is doing pretty well.
Rally, and I thought Goff played better this, you know, last week against Minnesota,
not having their corners really helped him.
I think that really, Gough gets all the...
I was wrong.
playing way better than I thought he would. He's playing
faster than I thought he would. I think Sean McBey
and their offensive creativity
is really good. I mean, they're the
most fun team to watch on first
and ten. They really understand
the NFL in terms of you've got to make
chunk plays down the field and the best
time to make chunk plays is on first down.
And they don't waste, they don't try to
throw the ball. Al Davis would love them because they don't
waste three-yard passes. They're not
trying to make some
three-yard gain and doing 15 motions
and all that. They're trying to get the ball down the
field. And I think it's pretty, Sean's got balls. I mean, he, you know, the game's kind of
close, and he's trying to throw it down the field. He's trying to make plays in the quarter
lines of liability. The right guard, Brown, he was getting beat inside. The Saints' defensive
looked like they got tired of adjusting, and they had a hard time. When you look at the
stat, it wasn't a Breeze-type game. I mean, I didn't think Breeze ever had control the game.
They did a good job stopping the run other than one run play. I thought this is a defensive
effort, a great offensive effort by the Rams. I mean, I think the Rams are definitely
but when they play against a good defensive
you can get after golf,
but the game in either corner's back.
Lattimore not being in there really hurt them.
Yeah, we should say for the Saints,
I mean, Alvin Camara pretty much,
in my opinion, I think he has gotten to the point
where he's sealing up the rookie of the year.
I mean, he has 87 yards rushing
and 110 yards receiving.
I think he has a couple touchdowns.
And he means he looked like the real deal.
And with Lattimore out there,
I mean, Lattimore could end up being the defensive rookie of the year,
so you could end up having the offensive rookie of the year,
on the same team with the Saints.
I mean, that draft and Ramchick, I mean, they had an amazing draft, and Camaro looked great today.
But I have to give credit to our boy Greg the leg, because every single time the Rams getting in the scoring zone,
I mean, even if Goff can't get a touchdown, you know that Greg's going to come in and get a field goal and get points on the board.
I mean, I think this is like one of them to watch tomorrow on real tape, but the Rams were three for 14 on third down.
Now, when you hear that, you think, oh, my gosh, but they controlled the ball for 35 minutes.
Okay, that's remarkable.
The Saints were only three for 13 on third down.
So they had all these third downs.
They didn't really much, and this just goes to prove what I always preach all the time is
Sean McVeigh understands the value of Canadian football.
And I know today the Great Cup, Mark Trest from the former coach of the Chicago Bears guy,
was the first time I was there.
Mark won as a Great Cup with the Montreal Alouettes today.
But the CFL mentality, getting from Stu, and this is why golf has been so affected,
because the defense on first and second down, they give them a chance,
and they're not trying to get into third and manageable.
McBay's not trying to get to do is get first downs.
In fact, when he has a third and 20 punt on long downs,
he's not like trying to be macho man.
His play calling is really good for what it has to be in terms of the defense
and attacking the defense.
I thought they did a great job.
I think the Rams are for real.
I don't think you want to play them right now because they'll attack you defensively
in a way.
You've got to be really good.
Yeah, and the way the good.
Gurley rubs off screens, and a lot of times you think he's blocking,
and then he just sneaks out and gets little catches and ends up getting 7-8 yards.
I mean, there's a ton of those little chunk plays that they have with Gurley that are big.
No, I mean, Gurley's, you know, so you got Gurley about a few plays,
and I thought Waukins.
But they throw the, I think the key for this team is when they take their shots down the field
and they make those plays down the field.
And here they've got a pass interference call down the field.
Look, if the Saints have their corners, I think it's a better game.
It's got to be a better passer in this game, especially on third down.
I think Wade Phillips
Yep, Wade's always the one.
Next up we have the Carolina Panthers
as they go up to New York
and I will say this, the Jets,
they look like they had a chance
they'd get a big win.
Anderson had a great game for them
at the wide receiver position.
But Carolina, somehow,
Luke Kigley gets a big late touchdown.
They find a way to win ugly
and they get out of New York.
They said this would be a trap game for them
and they were able to escape.
What did you see for them?
Well, it was a trap game clearly for Cam Newton.
I mean, they're so lucky to win
because the Jets beat themselves.
I'm not sure the Panthers beat them.
I think the Jets
beat themselves. And then this game was the game that really was symbolic for, I don't know what a
catch is. Like Austin Saffarian Jenkins has, I mean, the ball moved just slightly. He had it,
and they overturned it. This whole notion that notion that they're not going to overturn something
on the field, unless there's in the speed 11th, you know, it's like we've all bought it,
but it's not really true because they over, that's pretty clear. I mean, that's really,
it seems.
The New York's involved. They're going to make the call based on what they think.
It seems to be a week-to-week agenda.
Yeah, no, it seems to be like.
a week to week agenda. Like this
week, it was all about if the ball moves
at all, you know, then it's not a catch at any
point as he's coming down. But then
like before it was like all the way it's to keep
it. It seems like every week that they've decided
what they want to focus in on to decide what
is and what is not a catch. And Safarian
Genegan's got the wrong side of that two times. We've obviously
seen Des get the wrong side of that
plenty of times. I think
conclusive is not the right word.
Yeah. The Panthers win today,
really. They win today because the Jets made
mistakes. Cam Newton only completed 11 passes for 168 yards. I mean, he was horrible. I mean,
you've got to think next week he goes down in New Orleans. I mean, there were three for 14 on
third down. I mean, it was really bad. They gave up almost 400 yards, but the Jets, once again,
it came down to those four-point plays in the Red Zone. The Jets were one for three in the Red Zone.
You know, they have the two Red Zone third-down plays that they don't get. Those are Clay,
and I'm going to keep playing like this.
Cam is the most volatile quarterback being from week to week. I don't know if he's going to be
this great version, MVP version of himself, or like he was today
where he just seems sort of disconnected and, you know,
not really engaged, but somehow they pulled out a win.
And again, congrats to Auburn and, you know, Cam at least got one win this weekend
that, you know, really mattered to him, I'm sure, with the Tigers getting to win.
I mean, look, that Auburn game was a great game.
And Auburn's a hell of a team.
I feel bad for Auburn.
Not that we want to get off on the subject.
We can target football.
He should just come down and say, look, Auburn, you have done enough.
You're in the final four.
Absolutely.
Alabama, you go play Georgia
for the other spot.
But I think where Alabama is right now,
it's going to get one of those spots,
and they're actually going to get healthy and rested
without having to play.
This could be the best thing that ever happened to Alabama ever.
It's going to be one of those things where
if Alabama, if they're looking for a fourth team
and it's Clemson, Oklahoma, Wisconsin,
and they have to have a fourth team
and it's between Georgia, Auburn, Alabama.
If they both look bad Georgia and Auburn
and that came one way or the other,
Alabama's going to look like the best option
and they might end up being the fourth team, and that would be, yeah.
Oh, they're definitely going to be the fourth team.
They're going to get, I think it's like even money or it's like,
they're already the fourth team.
I don't know how we got on the Auburn subject,
but to me, Alabama is west here because Auburn,
Auburn's going to have to, now they have to go play Georgia again.
You know, when I was like go from level one to level two to level three to level four, you know,
they beat in Alabama, and now they get to the title game again, and they got hard.
And they got to play a team that they already beat.
And that segment was sponsored by Under Armour, just kidding.
That's right.
And next up, the Falcons offense, it looks like Sarkeesian has figured it out,
and that is to let Muhammad Sanu be the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons.
He throws a deep ball to Julio Jones.
Maybe we should get the ball to Julio Jones.
You know what blows me away, Tay Fraser?
You know what blows me away is, and part of this book that I'm writing,
the chapter that I'm actually on right now is about defensive principles talking about
is the number one option, right?
Yes.
Well, the Buccaneers, you've got to think Julio Jones is the number one option, right?
he's got 15 targets today.
He's got 12 receptions for 253 yards.
That's not, like, to me, play a team.
Like, make Sunnu beat you.
Sunnu average eight yards a catch today.
Like, make Hopper beat you.
Make Taylor Gabriel beat you.
Make somebody else beat you.
But the one thing we're not going to do is make Julio Jones beat us.
It's remarkable.
But I think that's the key.
I think Matt Ryan's playing better.
I mean, they're overcoming.
I mean, the game was close.
They made some plays.
They got it.
You know, I got to take my hat off to them, but for the moment, I'm, I think Atlanta's for real.
You know, you don't.
I would just say this, 250 yards, the third time that Julio Jones has done that in his career.
That's pretty wild.
Yeah, I know.
This is like when Claiborne gets eight, six sacks.
At some point, doesn't Dirk Conner get on the headset and say, hey, Mike Smith?
Let's double this guy.
Let's double Julio every time.
Like, once he got to 100, can we double them?
Like, when he get on 150, can we triple them?
If he gets to one too high at some point, right?
Yeah, just guard.
him, spy him with everyone.
No, just let Matt Ryan run up the middle.
It's better than letting Julio run all over you.
Yeah, you know, it's funny because who was saying it about, oh, I heard Romo say it
and talking to him.
And, you know, I mean, football is such a game of adjustments.
Belichick's about in the first quarter isn't about what he's, his script.
He's not about, he's about trying to figure out what the opponent's game plan is and then
making the adjustment.
So he studied all week long to figure out what the team does.
best. How he's going to take away what they do.
What coordinators? Hey, this is
going to be this kind of game. That's what he spends his first quarter on.
Sometimes these other guys in the league, I think they spend
their first quarter on figuring out. You've got to adjust your game plan.
And let's talk about a team that
has not figured out a way to adjust their game plans since early in the season.
The Chiefs have lost five of six. They're basically spiraling at this point, but they're
still at the top of the AFC West with six wins. They're now six
and five. They lose the day of the Buffalo Bills.
Tyrod Taylor comes back and
It's a nice win, 183 yards in a touchdown.
But when you look at, I mean, this Chiefs team,
people were calling for Pat Mahomes to come in at this point,
and people are saying Andy Reid is, you know,
once again pulling some chicanery on all in all of us
after starting the season out undefeated.
What can they do?
I mean, Charcantric West, Kareem Hunt,
all these guys, all these running backs
that were doing so well earlier in the season.
Tyree Kill, they just can't seem to find their offense.
Right, and I got to throw the ball,
but this offensive line for the Chiefs is not very good.
and they struggle.
And once they're running, when you look at it, they couldn't run the ball.
I mean, 17 yards.
He couldn't run the ball as long as game was nine yards.
So that means he had 10 carries, okay?
He had 10 carries for eight yards for the rest of them.
We have long of nine.
People have played zone against them.
They're forcing Alex Smith.
They're not biting on all the misdirections.
And their skill level isn't to a good player.
Tyree kills still a good player.
But once again, you know, if they can't run the ball,
everything's off the running game.
I mean, it puts the pressure on Alex Smith.
Now he's got to throw the ball.
The Chiefs are playing against the last two weeks.
Yeah, it's...
I mean, the Chargers ran for it, ran the ball.
I mean, everybody in the last two weeks, and now at home, at home,
and I think he's right.
The problems, that's the line.
I know they've got their starters in there, but right now they're not playing nearly as well in the offensive front.
And then defensively, look, look, defensively,
they've never been a great defensive team.
And Alex Smith led the team in rushing.
He has 35 yards.
It's one of those things where with cover two and they had the safety help,
and they're basically keeping everything, so they're playing from...
They're not going north and south.
They're going east and west.
And it was fun early in the season when Alex Smith would shake things up and go vertical.
But now they don't have the option because they had that safety help.
And they're keeping everything in front of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, people are daring them to run the ball.
And look, that's the one thing Buffalo has done for most of the years, not giving up big plays.
Now they have one, you give up playing Buffalo a defense.
And that's why they did it.
And they did it on the road.
That's the scary part.
I mean, if you're Seattle and you've lost those two cities, he's got to be worried about this.
They've got to figure out a way to modify what they're doing.
since the Pittsburgh game when they lost that game.
Absolutely, and this actually leads right into the guest narrative segment
because my narrative for the week, Mr. Michael Lombardi,
is that the Chiefs are choking and that Pat Mahomes' talk is going to heat up.
And I don't necessarily agree that that should happen,
but I think that's going to be the narrative, a lot of people.
Even the great Rashid Wallace, who is a closet,
great Kansas City Chiefs fan for people that don't know,
has been putting out that...
Isheed Wallace of the Portland Trailblazers?
Yes, the Portland Trailblazers of the North Carolina Tar Hills.
He's a big Kansas City Chief fan. He puts a lot of stuff on Instagram.
if you want to follow about how they need to start Pat Mahomes.
I don't have Instagram.
I mean, how is that possible?
Like, was he from Kansas City?
I mean, how is it to explain this to me?
He's Philadelphia.
I don't know how it all worked out.
He's Roman Catholic High School.
Like, I don't understand this.
I don't know.
He's a big Chiefs fan.
I don't know if it was from late Joe Montana going to the Chiefs.
Who knows how it all came to be?
I'm sure we need to ask him and figure it out.
But he's been calling for Pat Mahomes for the past four or five weeks now.
Even when they were winning, he wanted Pat Mahomes out there.
So I feel like the media is going to jump all over this.
and want Andy Reid to throw a rookie quarterback out there.
And I don't know if that's going to help.
I don't see it.
I mean, they're going to pressure them to do it because everybody,
that's the simple solution.
Like, to me, if the solutions when your team's not playing well are simple,
then they should have been corrected.
Simple thing.
And John F. Kennedy.
And Jack Kennedy says to his brother, he says,
have to solve.
Well, Jack, because I've solved all the easy ones before I've gotten here.
Like, if it was as simple as changing quarterbacks,
we would just change quarterbacks.
Like, that's not the reason Kansas City is losing.
And when you make one change, you put Mahomes in,
you've opened up a whole other can of problems somewhere else.
And nobody seems to want to understand it.
It's like you're playing checkers.
If you don't measure, you can't make the right decision.
So for me, like the simple solutions should be solved early.
But Kansas City's solutions aren't simple.
So putting Mahomes in there isn't going to send this.
Yeah, I don't see a rookie quarterback coming to say,
for them. What about you? What's your narrative for the week?
The week would be, I think, I think, when you just look at it, I think, okay, now look, I give
CJs that's tremendous props, okay? John Lynch sees today.
Oh, yes. John, you're the general manager, you're not the coach, okay? Like, stay up in the box.
Fraser? Absolutely. It was beautiful. Right into the game when they should have just run the clock
out, they decided to let Jimmy throw for it. I know, and probably Pete Carroll's on a plane ride
flying home saying to John Schneider, you know, I'm pretty happy they didn't play that kid.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, you know, like this whole notion that people think, well, we can't play this
quarterback because the offensive line isn't any good.
Yeah, well, if the quarterback's not good, he's designers and they have all their analytical
thing, we signed Kirk Couss, maybe we'll get more.
Like, look, Jimmy's pretty good.
Like, just a little bit that narrative should be the week.
Like, just play the guy.
Like, how do you not play the guy?
Now, C.J. Beather said after the game, he doesn't think, you know,
CJ on one leg, just playing.
So I think that should be the narrative there.
And when he got taken down by Bennett, I mean, it looked pretty bad and pretty severe.
So when Garoppolo came in, they were just expected, well, you know, Garapolo is probably not prepared to come in this game because he didn't think you would.
So he's probably just going to take a knee or at least run this thing out.
He comes in, he runs for a first down, and then he rolls out and ends up throwing a touchdown.
And Shaneahan was celebrating.
Yeah, it was great.
Yeah, like he's played there forever.
Like, you know, you know, so the other narrative that I think that we didn't touch on because it's not a very good game.
Bringing him over to Jimmy Hasolm, the owner.
It's like a showcase.
That's called tampering, okay?
Like, you can't sit there and say, well, how's Catherine?
Now I want you to meet the owner.
Come over and meet Jimmy Haslam.
He's a really nice man.
Like, no, no.
I don't know.
I feel like Kaiser should have been upset about that, because they're basically just going over
and trying to woo another quarterback, yeah.
Yeah, and then, you know, and then Hughes over there acting like he's so happy to see
and A.J. McCarrant, like, oh, my God.
That's great, you know.
should have sent the trade in in time, right?
If they wanted him so bad.
Oh, yeah, they would have sent a trade in all time.
Instead of going over to see him before the game, he could have been on your team.
Could have been starting for you.
By the way, they've lost again.
So now he's tied John McKay for their, he's 0 and 11, franchise Tampa Bay, but one in 25,
and that's what Hugh is in Cleveland.
But everything's okay to worry about.
Haslam is.
Remember, Hazelman and him are on the same side.
We saw that today.
They both love AJ McCarran.
They can't come close to win in a game, but everything's fine.
Don't worry about it.
All right, Lombardi, let's do it.
Let's do some awards for the week.
First up, we have time to go on the lamb.
Who's going on the lamb this week?
You know, I think my man, Vance Joseph needs to go on the lamb.
I really do.
I'm so unimpressed with the Denver Broncos.
I all the time.
The key to pay problems not react to it.
And Elway has to see this.
It's not going good on offense.
It's going really bad on defense.
You fired Wade Phillips.
She left him leave the building to bring in this guy.
You're not as good as you were on defense.
I'm really thinking that if I'm John Elwood, you just hire the wrong guy.
Like maybe you think you're going to make him a better coach as it goes on.
But you send John Fox on the land because the Bears today played like Carson,
and everybody.
The parade has already planned to build up you so we understand that.
But the reality of it is, is we know Fox is going to get fired.
Like, to me, this is a little bit more of a problem.
Do you really think Bance has got your team under control?
And some teams can rally back, but this is the first time in franchise.
history, they've lost eight straight games.
And we heard about fights and practice this week,
and obviously the soft comments coming from L.A.
really affected a bunch of the players, them coming out
and responding to it. It just seems like
a lot is going on there and a lot of turmoil
in the locker room and with the front office
and obviously with the coaches. Then they go out and lay an egg.
I mean, they're down 21 to nothing now.
They got a chance to come back in the Raider game. They go
blitz-z-up like he's going to run to where he needs to.
And, you know, I don't see that. I think
Elway's in a tough spot. Don't have a quarterback.
You don't have a coach. Look, my man, Chuck
Pagano, I think it's hard on them.
I think they've covered up all the so many things.
But when you're in the fourth quarter,
can you imagine?
Now, Tate Frazier, they've led five.
Not good coaching late, I would say.
Yeah, I mean, look, we know the Clapper has blown eight times the Clapper's done it.
But, like, at some point, like, you're up in this game,
and I don't think, you know, and I don't think Tennessee's a great team by any means.
I thought the Colts.
Saturday said, I would have taken the Colts.
I don't know how many points they were getting, but I would have taken the Colts in this game.
You know, I thought it was a, I thought it was a big.
a really good bet because I thought the Colt, Tennessee is a little bit like Jacksonville.
They're never going to run away from you. They're never going to go, oh my gosh.
I just want to see what the line is here. Oh, yeah.
You were a one.
You're going to get four and a half. Yeah, 20 to 16. They order one.
Yep.
Poor Pugano. I feel like he's been on the Lamb quite a few times.
Maybe not even all with this pod, but just in general over the past few years,
past couple of years. Next up, we had the Fred Palermo Award.
That's going to go out to the Buffalo Bills, right, this week?
I think Buffalo, you know, going to give Sean McDermick credit here.
I mean, his team fell apart.
He gave up over 100 points
the last two weeks.
He came back.
I think he deserves it.
I think what a player more award.
Great game plan.
I think against the Saints
did a really good job.
Stop the other than the one big run play
had a really good job in that game.
I think Buffalo and the Rams.
Fred would be proud of it.
The menu was short.
It was nice and sweet.
They played really well.
Wade Phillips, once again,
doing it big.
Next up the KGB Award.
We got the Jags, right?
They got bluff by our boy,
Blank Gabbard.
This was so good.
I mean, it was priceless in the desert.
I mean, they should show this on, they should show this game on NFL network like every
Blaine Gabbitt versus Batchel.
Straight to Tyrant Matthew.
Right in his hands.
I mean, he waited so long to make the pass.
It was almost like the most telegraphed pass you could possibly make.
It was almost a joke.
I thought it was pump faking.
When I'm watching Bortles play, it goes from, okay, he's back to pass.
I'm watching him.
Oh, he's bad.
Oh, my God.
He got out of it.
He's, oh, my God, I can't believe he throws it.
Then you get good.
Like having these emotions really good for like seven.
seven minutes and then he has a bad play.
It's like on the same play.
You're like, oh my God, Blake, what are you doing?
Like, what's going on here?
Like, how could you do that?
I mean, I get Gabbard.
I mean, Gabbard, look, Gabbard, if he has time to make some throws,
I actually think Gabbard's more talented than Blake.
I mean, Gabbard's not the toughest guy to the world.
But, you know, here's Blake.
He's 19 for 33, takes three sacks, throws in a rush on the team.
That's what happened?
I was going to say, what about his zone reads?
He had a great touchdown run on his zone read, a nice read.
Oh, yeah.
Cut it back inside.
those plays where he looked good all the way through.
But I mean, like, this is what's going to happen in the playoffs to Jacksonville.
It's going to be 12 carries for 25 yards for Fortnett.
And then they're going to play an offensive coordinator who knows how to attack,
and they're going to be on the road, and they're going to be able to handle it.
And so I think Jacksonville tennis needs to easy out for somebody when they start the playoffs.
And can I ask you about Fournette?
I mean, obviously he wasn't – I mean, Yeldin's the guy that's getting the call on crunch time for the Jaguars.
I mean, you would expect Fournette to be –
What that tells me is that
Fournette's not great on the protections.
Yeah, that's what I would think,
because it means they're throwing the football.
I mean, yeah, well,
Frenette's too much on the sidelines
when it really matters.
And when you need him out there,
like, like, tonight,
when you saw Lévian Bell get those checkdowns,
like he's really hard to tackle
on the open field.
I mean, that's what you want,
but Bell's so good, you know,
you keep on the field all the time,
whereas Fonet,
I'm just not sure he's really comfortable
in the protections that he can understand him.
And then with Blake back there,
Blake, you know, Blake's going to direct them in the right way, but God only knows what Blake's game.
I mean, they're a better team than Arizona. They should not give it up that many points to Arizona.
Now, a long field goal, and I think they really did a poor job at the end of the game.
They really, you know, at me, Frazier, but the end of the game, they're sitting at 40 to go in the game,
and they take it down to 2.2014 to go in the game. Okay, and they run, yelled it up the middle for two yards.
The clock keeps running. Then Blake Portles throws an incomplete pass.
Now, at this point, second and eight, you've just run it on first down.
You're at Jacksonville's 12-yard line, right?
The game's over.
Okay?
Yes.
They throw it there, stops the clock.
Now on third and eight, they run it, right?
Yep.
So now at 27 seconds, they punt it, they get two past.
And then you can run it.
Go to overtime.
By giving them the extra timeout, you basically gave him the game.
Well, that goes back to our boy Dougie Maron.
Yeah, and usually Doug's pretty good at time matters,
but this time he was in an extra time.
cost them. I mean, they kind of got, they
overtime and they didn't, so. Poor Bortals.
I thought I was going to all work out when they were
driving down the field before he threw that pick
to Honey Badger. It felt like it was a nice
Bortles two-minute drive for the victory, but
not quite. It never feels
like a good boy. Two-minute drive tape, it never
feels that way. All right, final one. If you don't know, now you know,
what's that for this week?
Well, you know, Jimmy G's a really good quarterback.
I mean, he came in and just a brief time, he looked like
a professional. I mean, that's what professional quarterbacks
look like, right? Yes. You know,
And if you don't know, New England's defense's playing much better.
Miami's not very good.
I love Jarvis Landry's.
I love Jarvis Landry.
They do everything in Miami to kiss Jarvis Landry's ass, right?
And then naturally today, he probably didn't see it.
And of course, Landry took right to his teams.
So, man, we got nothing to lose?
Why did we challenge it?
Like, just blatantly called out as coach.
Here's a guy who's been defending him the whole time.
They've been trying to trade him this entire time quietly because they feel like
And he averages under 10 yards a catch, which he does, right?
Yes.
So they've been trying to quietly trade them, but they just don't want to upset their team.
They don't want to make them mad.
Hey, sometimes you've got to do it first, you know?
It's such a millennial tape, it's such a millennial.
Well, did you see our boy Ferris, aka OBJ?
He was at the LSU game this weekend against Texas A&M with all the kids.
Oh, did he put the giant helmet on the field?
Yeah, they gave him a whole welcome, and yeah, he was the star.
He was a talk of the town in Baton Rouge.
It was good to see.
I was happy for him.
They were having a good time.
Bat Rouge,
they'll LSU run just enough.
It's perfect.
I love it.
It's good.
It's good.
Anything for tomorrow night?
We get the Monday night football game.
The Texans taking on the ravings.
Anything to watch in that game?
Well,
it sounds kind of like a dredge.
You got hope, right?
I mean, look at it.
You're sitting here, Buffalo 1.
You got hope.
You got to find a way.
You're playing at home.
You're playing against the backup quarterback.
You've got some hope here now, right?
I mean, you would think you would play well.
I don't know with Flacko.
Yeah.
You never know what a show up.
I mean, it'll be a boring game.
I might have to watch California typewriter tomorrow night.
I don't know.
You may watch Godfather Part 3 before that.
No, no, I won't.
No, I won't do that.
But I would watch California typewriter.
I would.
All right, good.
We'll figure it out.
We'll put our programming out to the world on Twitter, I'm sure.
This has been another great GM Street with you, Lombardi.
I miss you in the studio.
Thanks, Dave for Eagles.
So the parade's going out to Seattle.
It'll be fun.
We'll be back.
Tuesday.
We'll see you then.
Bye.
