The Ringer NFL Show - 'GM Street' — Week 12 Rapid Reactions (Ep. 191)

Episode Date: November 27, 2017

The Ringer's Michael Lombardi and Tate Frazier discuss the Raiders' bout with the Broncos, fistfight and all (3:05); the Rams' hard-fought win over the Saints (7:05); and the Falcon's progression (16:...15) and the Chiefs' lack thereof (19:05). Then they talk about Jimmy G's first touchdown in San Francisco (25:05) and close out with some awards (28:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Welcome to GM Street part of the Ringer Podcast Network. I am Tate Fraser, live in the studio in Los Angeles, and in a remote location somewhere in the Los Angeles County. Mr. Mike Lombardi, how you doing? I'm great, Tate Frazier. Happy Thanksgiving. Everything good. You're back home, everything good?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Everything's good. It took me an hour to get an Uber at the airport today at L.A.X Because apparently today is the busiest day to travel in the world. The worst day to travel in the world, especially at Los Angeles airport. It was terrible, but I got back. I saw my family. North Carolina was beautiful, as always, and I'm glad to be back. I watched a lot of football.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I watched a lot of college basketball, and ate a lot of food. So how was your Thanksgiving? Do you eat a lot of pie? It was great to stand out here, watch football game. I think, you know, I think Godfather 1 and 2 were off, which were the rewatchables on the Godfather. But having the Godfather, you know, Sonny's going to the Toll Plaza, you know, the quarterback gets knocked out. You know, I mean, there's always going to be the clapper. You know, I mean, it was just so.
Starting point is 00:01:30 What I like the most about it, it didn't. put guys. There's no need to watch three. We'll stop it too. Philip Rivers, though, we should say. He was like the Francis Ford Coppola of our Thanksgiving Day. He just dominated the Cowboys and then Clapper. The poor Clapper. Tough Turkey Day for him. Yeah, and then the report comes out today.
Starting point is 00:01:53 The players are all pissed off. He doesn't adjust. And then Philip Rivers adds salt to the wound by saying that I knew everything that they were going to do on defense. Well, of course, everybody knows what they're going to do on defense in Dallas. I mean, I think, you know, the one thing about this whole notion about knowing what to do is a little bit overrated because if you don't have any tendencies, you can't be any good, the problem with the Cowboys' defense is they're used to play in 26, 27, 28 minutes
Starting point is 00:02:16 a night. You know, now that they can't convert third downs on offense, now that they have no explosive plays on offense, now that they can't score on offense, the defense has got to play 32, 33 minutes. That defense wasn't built to play. That defense was built to complement the offense. And so offense is not playing good.
Starting point is 00:02:36 No, no, no. The defense is there to complement the offense in Dallas. And when the offense breaks down and play good for 26, 27 minutes, after that, no. Well, let's get into the games that happened today. Obviously, Thanksgiving was a few days ago. We saw the Lions make a valiant effort, but the Vikings get a big win. Obviously, the Cowboys struggle, and then the Redskins are the only team to win, the only home team to win.
Starting point is 00:03:03 But starting today, the big story came out of Oakland. We have the Oakland Raiders taking on the Denver Broncos, and there was a big fight. Michael Crabtree and Akie and Akie to leave have a bit of a history last year. we saw Keep-Talib grab Crabtree's chain out of his jersey and started a little scuffle. And today it went full-throttle and ended up with Crabtree. I think they both got thrown out of the game, correct? They both did the axing got thrown out of the game, which really game shouldn't have gotten thrown out of the game. Donald Penn initiated.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Oh, yes, Penn. Oh, yes, he should have gotten thrown out of the game. They got their helmets on. The fight continued. And the lead off the field, it doesn't look like a match. Absolutely. My biggest gripe, and as always has been with these fights, like Crabtree has his helmet off. but keep Delebe still has his helmet on,
Starting point is 00:04:14 and he's throwing punches, and, you know, Talib just stand there, taking him. Just hold off on the punches, save him. Take his helmet off, make it a fair fight if you're going to throw punches. I don't understand it. That's my only great. Don't throw punches, but if you do, make sure the helmet's off.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Lebe and Crabtree should get suspended for another game. I mean, I know that there's always talk. Well, no, I think this was pretty bad, and I think the discipline, the lack of discipline on the Raiders, is pretty, and then you've got to say the same, only in the game to go up seven and nothing, and they ruled it down on the one-yard line, and then they gave them another chance to throw a three,
Starting point is 00:05:09 and you've got to be really worried about your future of your team. And your team is older on defense. It's not going to be as good, and you're not very good on offense. And you've got to wonder where you're going. And they've got no quarterback. I mean, they kept showing Elway in the boxes. That tends to be the Broncos number one thing to do now. Obviously, call the team soft, and then they've responded by starting fights
Starting point is 00:05:32 and acting out at this point. But it came into the season, and everyone was like, we think we have an abundance of quarterbacks. You know, Trevor Simian looks better than we thought. and we have Paxson Lynch, who was the third quarterback taken in the draft. And now, not third overall, but the third quarterback taken in the last year's draft. And now it looks like they just have no quarterback, and they're obviously going to have to find someone for the future because at this point, I mean, they have no offense at all.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You're a Bronco fan. You're at the Raider Stadium. You should learn this. No guy, I've said this repeatedly. Like, Elway, it's a wonderful. He's a Hall of Fame player's tremendous. Controlled by the president. It's got to be controlled by the coat.
Starting point is 00:06:17 You get done, never get done on the field. in the mafia, there's too many buffers between you and the players. And when that happens, it's not very good. So the future is not very right for the Denver Broncos. The dynamic, pretty pissed off at him because he looked like he's got anything under control of his team, and it was pretty obvious on that field today. Well, the good news for John Elway is that the Stanford Cardinal got to win last night against Notre Dame. So he has something, something good happens.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I mean, I understand. There's always a little bit of, you know, it's a little bit of hope somewhere. Yep, exactly. Let's move on. The Los Angeles Rams, they get a big win. I mean, that was the big matchup in the NFC this week. The Rams take on the Saints out here in L.A. The Rams show up big.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Jared Gough has a great game. Todd Gurley really, you know, keeps it going and keeps it rolling. And I got to say this, Cooper Cup, I had my doubts. But, I mean, he seems like a legitimate receiver right now. And that one-two combo of golfing Cup seems pretty unstoppable. And this Rams offense is doing pretty well. Rally, and I thought Goff played better this, you know, last week against Minnesota, not having their corners really helped him.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I think that really, Gough gets all the... I was wrong. playing way better than I thought he would. He's playing faster than I thought he would. I think Sean McBey and their offensive creativity is really good. I mean, they're the most fun team to watch on first and ten. They really understand
Starting point is 00:08:00 the NFL in terms of you've got to make chunk plays down the field and the best time to make chunk plays is on first down. And they don't waste, they don't try to throw the ball. Al Davis would love them because they don't waste three-yard passes. They're not trying to make some three-yard gain and doing 15 motions
Starting point is 00:08:16 and all that. They're trying to get the ball down the field. And I think it's pretty, Sean's got balls. I mean, he, you know, the game's kind of close, and he's trying to throw it down the field. He's trying to make plays in the quarter lines of liability. The right guard, Brown, he was getting beat inside. The Saints' defensive looked like they got tired of adjusting, and they had a hard time. When you look at the stat, it wasn't a Breeze-type game. I mean, I didn't think Breeze ever had control the game. They did a good job stopping the run other than one run play. I thought this is a defensive effort, a great offensive effort by the Rams. I mean, I think the Rams are definitely
Starting point is 00:09:00 but when they play against a good defensive you can get after golf, but the game in either corner's back. Lattimore not being in there really hurt them. Yeah, we should say for the Saints, I mean, Alvin Camara pretty much, in my opinion, I think he has gotten to the point where he's sealing up the rookie of the year.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I mean, he has 87 yards rushing and 110 yards receiving. I think he has a couple touchdowns. And he means he looked like the real deal. And with Lattimore out there, I mean, Lattimore could end up being the defensive rookie of the year, so you could end up having the offensive rookie of the year, on the same team with the Saints.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I mean, that draft and Ramchick, I mean, they had an amazing draft, and Camaro looked great today. But I have to give credit to our boy Greg the leg, because every single time the Rams getting in the scoring zone, I mean, even if Goff can't get a touchdown, you know that Greg's going to come in and get a field goal and get points on the board. I mean, I think this is like one of them to watch tomorrow on real tape, but the Rams were three for 14 on third down. Now, when you hear that, you think, oh, my gosh, but they controlled the ball for 35 minutes. Okay, that's remarkable. The Saints were only three for 13 on third down. So they had all these third downs.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They didn't really much, and this just goes to prove what I always preach all the time is Sean McVeigh understands the value of Canadian football. And I know today the Great Cup, Mark Trest from the former coach of the Chicago Bears guy, was the first time I was there. Mark won as a Great Cup with the Montreal Alouettes today. But the CFL mentality, getting from Stu, and this is why golf has been so affected, because the defense on first and second down, they give them a chance, and they're not trying to get into third and manageable.
Starting point is 00:10:49 McBay's not trying to get to do is get first downs. In fact, when he has a third and 20 punt on long downs, he's not like trying to be macho man. His play calling is really good for what it has to be in terms of the defense and attacking the defense. I thought they did a great job. I think the Rams are for real. I don't think you want to play them right now because they'll attack you defensively
Starting point is 00:11:14 in a way. You've got to be really good. Yeah, and the way the good. Gurley rubs off screens, and a lot of times you think he's blocking, and then he just sneaks out and gets little catches and ends up getting 7-8 yards. I mean, there's a ton of those little chunk plays that they have with Gurley that are big. No, I mean, Gurley's, you know, so you got Gurley about a few plays, and I thought Waukins.
Starting point is 00:11:38 But they throw the, I think the key for this team is when they take their shots down the field and they make those plays down the field. And here they've got a pass interference call down the field. Look, if the Saints have their corners, I think it's a better game. It's got to be a better passer in this game, especially on third down. I think Wade Phillips Yep, Wade's always the one. Next up we have the Carolina Panthers
Starting point is 00:12:04 as they go up to New York and I will say this, the Jets, they look like they had a chance they'd get a big win. Anderson had a great game for them at the wide receiver position. But Carolina, somehow, Luke Kigley gets a big late touchdown.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They find a way to win ugly and they get out of New York. They said this would be a trap game for them and they were able to escape. What did you see for them? Well, it was a trap game clearly for Cam Newton. I mean, they're so lucky to win because the Jets beat themselves.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm not sure the Panthers beat them. I think the Jets beat themselves. And then this game was the game that really was symbolic for, I don't know what a catch is. Like Austin Saffarian Jenkins has, I mean, the ball moved just slightly. He had it, and they overturned it. This whole notion that notion that they're not going to overturn something on the field, unless there's in the speed 11th, you know, it's like we've all bought it, but it's not really true because they over, that's pretty clear. I mean, that's really, it seems.
Starting point is 00:13:07 The New York's involved. They're going to make the call based on what they think. It seems to be a week-to-week agenda. Yeah, no, it seems to be like. a week to week agenda. Like this week, it was all about if the ball moves at all, you know, then it's not a catch at any point as he's coming down. But then like before it was like all the way it's to keep
Starting point is 00:13:24 it. It seems like every week that they've decided what they want to focus in on to decide what is and what is not a catch. And Safarian Genegan's got the wrong side of that two times. We've obviously seen Des get the wrong side of that plenty of times. I think conclusive is not the right word. Yeah. The Panthers win today,
Starting point is 00:13:40 really. They win today because the Jets made mistakes. Cam Newton only completed 11 passes for 168 yards. I mean, he was horrible. I mean, you've got to think next week he goes down in New Orleans. I mean, there were three for 14 on third down. I mean, it was really bad. They gave up almost 400 yards, but the Jets, once again, it came down to those four-point plays in the Red Zone. The Jets were one for three in the Red Zone. You know, they have the two Red Zone third-down plays that they don't get. Those are Clay, and I'm going to keep playing like this. Cam is the most volatile quarterback being from week to week. I don't know if he's going to be
Starting point is 00:14:23 this great version, MVP version of himself, or like he was today where he just seems sort of disconnected and, you know, not really engaged, but somehow they pulled out a win. And again, congrats to Auburn and, you know, Cam at least got one win this weekend that, you know, really mattered to him, I'm sure, with the Tigers getting to win. I mean, look, that Auburn game was a great game. And Auburn's a hell of a team. I feel bad for Auburn.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Not that we want to get off on the subject. We can target football. He should just come down and say, look, Auburn, you have done enough. You're in the final four. Absolutely. Alabama, you go play Georgia for the other spot. But I think where Alabama is right now,
Starting point is 00:15:01 it's going to get one of those spots, and they're actually going to get healthy and rested without having to play. This could be the best thing that ever happened to Alabama ever. It's going to be one of those things where if Alabama, if they're looking for a fourth team and it's Clemson, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and they have to have a fourth team
Starting point is 00:15:20 and it's between Georgia, Auburn, Alabama. If they both look bad Georgia and Auburn and that came one way or the other, Alabama's going to look like the best option and they might end up being the fourth team, and that would be, yeah. Oh, they're definitely going to be the fourth team. They're going to get, I think it's like even money or it's like, they're already the fourth team.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I don't know how we got on the Auburn subject, but to me, Alabama is west here because Auburn, Auburn's going to have to, now they have to go play Georgia again. You know, when I was like go from level one to level two to level three to level four, you know, they beat in Alabama, and now they get to the title game again, and they got hard. And they got to play a team that they already beat. And that segment was sponsored by Under Armour, just kidding. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And next up, the Falcons offense, it looks like Sarkeesian has figured it out, and that is to let Muhammad Sanu be the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons. He throws a deep ball to Julio Jones. Maybe we should get the ball to Julio Jones. You know what blows me away, Tay Fraser? You know what blows me away is, and part of this book that I'm writing, the chapter that I'm actually on right now is about defensive principles talking about is the number one option, right?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yes. Well, the Buccaneers, you've got to think Julio Jones is the number one option, right? he's got 15 targets today. He's got 12 receptions for 253 yards. That's not, like, to me, play a team. Like, make Sunnu beat you. Sunnu average eight yards a catch today. Like, make Hopper beat you.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Make Taylor Gabriel beat you. Make somebody else beat you. But the one thing we're not going to do is make Julio Jones beat us. It's remarkable. But I think that's the key. I think Matt Ryan's playing better. I mean, they're overcoming. I mean, the game was close.
Starting point is 00:17:22 They made some plays. They got it. You know, I got to take my hat off to them, but for the moment, I'm, I think Atlanta's for real. You know, you don't. I would just say this, 250 yards, the third time that Julio Jones has done that in his career. That's pretty wild. Yeah, I know. This is like when Claiborne gets eight, six sacks.
Starting point is 00:17:52 At some point, doesn't Dirk Conner get on the headset and say, hey, Mike Smith? Let's double this guy. Let's double Julio every time. Like, once he got to 100, can we double them? Like, when he get on 150, can we triple them? If he gets to one too high at some point, right? Yeah, just guard. him, spy him with everyone.
Starting point is 00:18:10 No, just let Matt Ryan run up the middle. It's better than letting Julio run all over you. Yeah, you know, it's funny because who was saying it about, oh, I heard Romo say it and talking to him. And, you know, I mean, football is such a game of adjustments. Belichick's about in the first quarter isn't about what he's, his script. He's not about, he's about trying to figure out what the opponent's game plan is and then making the adjustment.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So he studied all week long to figure out what the team does. best. How he's going to take away what they do. What coordinators? Hey, this is going to be this kind of game. That's what he spends his first quarter on. Sometimes these other guys in the league, I think they spend their first quarter on figuring out. You've got to adjust your game plan. And let's talk about a team that has not figured out a way to adjust their game plans since early in the season.
Starting point is 00:19:09 The Chiefs have lost five of six. They're basically spiraling at this point, but they're still at the top of the AFC West with six wins. They're now six and five. They lose the day of the Buffalo Bills. Tyrod Taylor comes back and It's a nice win, 183 yards in a touchdown. But when you look at, I mean, this Chiefs team, people were calling for Pat Mahomes to come in at this point, and people are saying Andy Reid is, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:29 once again pulling some chicanery on all in all of us after starting the season out undefeated. What can they do? I mean, Charcantric West, Kareem Hunt, all these guys, all these running backs that were doing so well earlier in the season. Tyree Kill, they just can't seem to find their offense. Right, and I got to throw the ball,
Starting point is 00:19:50 but this offensive line for the Chiefs is not very good. and they struggle. And once they're running, when you look at it, they couldn't run the ball. I mean, 17 yards. He couldn't run the ball as long as game was nine yards. So that means he had 10 carries, okay? He had 10 carries for eight yards for the rest of them. We have long of nine.
Starting point is 00:20:11 People have played zone against them. They're forcing Alex Smith. They're not biting on all the misdirections. And their skill level isn't to a good player. Tyree kills still a good player. But once again, you know, if they can't run the ball, everything's off the running game. I mean, it puts the pressure on Alex Smith.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Now he's got to throw the ball. The Chiefs are playing against the last two weeks. Yeah, it's... I mean, the Chargers ran for it, ran the ball. I mean, everybody in the last two weeks, and now at home, at home, and I think he's right. The problems, that's the line. I know they've got their starters in there, but right now they're not playing nearly as well in the offensive front.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And then defensively, look, look, defensively, they've never been a great defensive team. And Alex Smith led the team in rushing. He has 35 yards. It's one of those things where with cover two and they had the safety help, and they're basically keeping everything, so they're playing from... They're not going north and south. They're going east and west.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And it was fun early in the season when Alex Smith would shake things up and go vertical. But now they don't have the option because they had that safety help. And they're keeping everything in front of them. Yeah. Yeah, people are daring them to run the ball. And look, that's the one thing Buffalo has done for most of the years, not giving up big plays. Now they have one, you give up playing Buffalo a defense. And that's why they did it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And they did it on the road. That's the scary part. I mean, if you're Seattle and you've lost those two cities, he's got to be worried about this. They've got to figure out a way to modify what they're doing. since the Pittsburgh game when they lost that game. Absolutely, and this actually leads right into the guest narrative segment because my narrative for the week, Mr. Michael Lombardi, is that the Chiefs are choking and that Pat Mahomes' talk is going to heat up.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And I don't necessarily agree that that should happen, but I think that's going to be the narrative, a lot of people. Even the great Rashid Wallace, who is a closet, great Kansas City Chiefs fan for people that don't know, has been putting out that... Isheed Wallace of the Portland Trailblazers? Yes, the Portland Trailblazers of the North Carolina Tar Hills. He's a big Kansas City Chief fan. He puts a lot of stuff on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:22:54 if you want to follow about how they need to start Pat Mahomes. I don't have Instagram. I mean, how is that possible? Like, was he from Kansas City? I mean, how is it to explain this to me? He's Philadelphia. I don't know how it all worked out. He's Roman Catholic High School.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Like, I don't understand this. I don't know. He's a big Chiefs fan. I don't know if it was from late Joe Montana going to the Chiefs. Who knows how it all came to be? I'm sure we need to ask him and figure it out. But he's been calling for Pat Mahomes for the past four or five weeks now. Even when they were winning, he wanted Pat Mahomes out there.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So I feel like the media is going to jump all over this. and want Andy Reid to throw a rookie quarterback out there. And I don't know if that's going to help. I don't see it. I mean, they're going to pressure them to do it because everybody, that's the simple solution. Like, to me, if the solutions when your team's not playing well are simple, then they should have been corrected.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Simple thing. And John F. Kennedy. And Jack Kennedy says to his brother, he says, have to solve. Well, Jack, because I've solved all the easy ones before I've gotten here. Like, if it was as simple as changing quarterbacks, we would just change quarterbacks. Like, that's not the reason Kansas City is losing.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And when you make one change, you put Mahomes in, you've opened up a whole other can of problems somewhere else. And nobody seems to want to understand it. It's like you're playing checkers. If you don't measure, you can't make the right decision. So for me, like the simple solutions should be solved early. But Kansas City's solutions aren't simple. So putting Mahomes in there isn't going to send this.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, I don't see a rookie quarterback coming to say, for them. What about you? What's your narrative for the week? The week would be, I think, I think, when you just look at it, I think, okay, now look, I give CJs that's tremendous props, okay? John Lynch sees today. Oh, yes. John, you're the general manager, you're not the coach, okay? Like, stay up in the box. Fraser? Absolutely. It was beautiful. Right into the game when they should have just run the clock out, they decided to let Jimmy throw for it. I know, and probably Pete Carroll's on a plane ride flying home saying to John Schneider, you know, I'm pretty happy they didn't play that kid.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, like this whole notion that people think, well, we can't play this quarterback because the offensive line isn't any good. Yeah, well, if the quarterback's not good, he's designers and they have all their analytical thing, we signed Kirk Couss, maybe we'll get more. Like, look, Jimmy's pretty good. Like, just a little bit that narrative should be the week. Like, just play the guy.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like, how do you not play the guy? Now, C.J. Beather said after the game, he doesn't think, you know, CJ on one leg, just playing. So I think that should be the narrative there. And when he got taken down by Bennett, I mean, it looked pretty bad and pretty severe. So when Garoppolo came in, they were just expected, well, you know, Garapolo is probably not prepared to come in this game because he didn't think you would. So he's probably just going to take a knee or at least run this thing out. He comes in, he runs for a first down, and then he rolls out and ends up throwing a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And Shaneahan was celebrating. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, like he's played there forever. Like, you know, you know, so the other narrative that I think that we didn't touch on because it's not a very good game. Bringing him over to Jimmy Hasolm, the owner. It's like a showcase. That's called tampering, okay? Like, you can't sit there and say, well, how's Catherine?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Now I want you to meet the owner. Come over and meet Jimmy Haslam. He's a really nice man. Like, no, no. I don't know. I feel like Kaiser should have been upset about that, because they're basically just going over and trying to woo another quarterback, yeah. Yeah, and then, you know, and then Hughes over there acting like he's so happy to see
Starting point is 00:27:42 and A.J. McCarrant, like, oh, my God. That's great, you know. should have sent the trade in in time, right? If they wanted him so bad. Oh, yeah, they would have sent a trade in all time. Instead of going over to see him before the game, he could have been on your team. Could have been starting for you. By the way, they've lost again.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So now he's tied John McKay for their, he's 0 and 11, franchise Tampa Bay, but one in 25, and that's what Hugh is in Cleveland. But everything's okay to worry about. Haslam is. Remember, Hazelman and him are on the same side. We saw that today. They both love AJ McCarran. They can't come close to win in a game, but everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Don't worry about it. All right, Lombardi, let's do it. Let's do some awards for the week. First up, we have time to go on the lamb. Who's going on the lamb this week? You know, I think my man, Vance Joseph needs to go on the lamb. I really do. I'm so unimpressed with the Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I all the time. The key to pay problems not react to it. And Elway has to see this. It's not going good on offense. It's going really bad on defense. You fired Wade Phillips. She left him leave the building to bring in this guy. You're not as good as you were on defense.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm really thinking that if I'm John Elwood, you just hire the wrong guy. Like maybe you think you're going to make him a better coach as it goes on. But you send John Fox on the land because the Bears today played like Carson, and everybody. The parade has already planned to build up you so we understand that. But the reality of it is, is we know Fox is going to get fired. Like, to me, this is a little bit more of a problem. Do you really think Bance has got your team under control?
Starting point is 00:29:37 And some teams can rally back, but this is the first time in franchise. history, they've lost eight straight games. And we heard about fights and practice this week, and obviously the soft comments coming from L.A. really affected a bunch of the players, them coming out and responding to it. It just seems like a lot is going on there and a lot of turmoil in the locker room and with the front office
Starting point is 00:29:56 and obviously with the coaches. Then they go out and lay an egg. I mean, they're down 21 to nothing now. They got a chance to come back in the Raider game. They go blitz-z-up like he's going to run to where he needs to. And, you know, I don't see that. I think Elway's in a tough spot. Don't have a quarterback. You don't have a coach. Look, my man, Chuck Pagano, I think it's hard on them.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I think they've covered up all the so many things. But when you're in the fourth quarter, can you imagine? Now, Tate Frazier, they've led five. Not good coaching late, I would say. Yeah, I mean, look, we know the Clapper has blown eight times the Clapper's done it. But, like, at some point, like, you're up in this game, and I don't think, you know, and I don't think Tennessee's a great team by any means.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I thought the Colts. Saturday said, I would have taken the Colts. I don't know how many points they were getting, but I would have taken the Colts in this game. You know, I thought it was a, I thought it was a big. a really good bet because I thought the Colt, Tennessee is a little bit like Jacksonville. They're never going to run away from you. They're never going to go, oh my gosh. I just want to see what the line is here. Oh, yeah. You were a one.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You're going to get four and a half. Yeah, 20 to 16. They order one. Yep. Poor Pugano. I feel like he's been on the Lamb quite a few times. Maybe not even all with this pod, but just in general over the past few years, past couple of years. Next up, we had the Fred Palermo Award. That's going to go out to the Buffalo Bills, right, this week? I think Buffalo, you know, going to give Sean McDermick credit here. I mean, his team fell apart.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He gave up over 100 points the last two weeks. He came back. I think he deserves it. I think what a player more award. Great game plan. I think against the Saints did a really good job.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Stop the other than the one big run play had a really good job in that game. I think Buffalo and the Rams. Fred would be proud of it. The menu was short. It was nice and sweet. They played really well. Wade Phillips, once again,
Starting point is 00:32:39 doing it big. Next up the KGB Award. We got the Jags, right? They got bluff by our boy, Blank Gabbard. This was so good. I mean, it was priceless in the desert. I mean, they should show this on, they should show this game on NFL network like every
Starting point is 00:32:55 Blaine Gabbitt versus Batchel. Straight to Tyrant Matthew. Right in his hands. I mean, he waited so long to make the pass. It was almost like the most telegraphed pass you could possibly make. It was almost a joke. I thought it was pump faking. When I'm watching Bortles play, it goes from, okay, he's back to pass.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm watching him. Oh, he's bad. Oh, my God. He got out of it. He's, oh, my God, I can't believe he throws it. Then you get good. Like having these emotions really good for like seven. seven minutes and then he has a bad play.
Starting point is 00:33:52 It's like on the same play. You're like, oh my God, Blake, what are you doing? Like, what's going on here? Like, how could you do that? I mean, I get Gabbard. I mean, Gabbard, look, Gabbard, if he has time to make some throws, I actually think Gabbard's more talented than Blake. I mean, Gabbard's not the toughest guy to the world.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But, you know, here's Blake. He's 19 for 33, takes three sacks, throws in a rush on the team. That's what happened? I was going to say, what about his zone reads? He had a great touchdown run on his zone read, a nice read. Oh, yeah. Cut it back inside. those plays where he looked good all the way through.
Starting point is 00:34:25 But I mean, like, this is what's going to happen in the playoffs to Jacksonville. It's going to be 12 carries for 25 yards for Fortnett. And then they're going to play an offensive coordinator who knows how to attack, and they're going to be on the road, and they're going to be able to handle it. And so I think Jacksonville tennis needs to easy out for somebody when they start the playoffs. And can I ask you about Fournette? I mean, obviously he wasn't – I mean, Yeldin's the guy that's getting the call on crunch time for the Jaguars. I mean, you would expect Fournette to be –
Starting point is 00:35:04 What that tells me is that Fournette's not great on the protections. Yeah, that's what I would think, because it means they're throwing the football. I mean, yeah, well, Frenette's too much on the sidelines when it really matters. And when you need him out there,
Starting point is 00:35:16 like, like, tonight, when you saw Lévian Bell get those checkdowns, like he's really hard to tackle on the open field. I mean, that's what you want, but Bell's so good, you know, you keep on the field all the time, whereas Fonet,
Starting point is 00:35:31 I'm just not sure he's really comfortable in the protections that he can understand him. And then with Blake back there, Blake, you know, Blake's going to direct them in the right way, but God only knows what Blake's game. I mean, they're a better team than Arizona. They should not give it up that many points to Arizona. Now, a long field goal, and I think they really did a poor job at the end of the game. They really, you know, at me, Frazier, but the end of the game, they're sitting at 40 to go in the game, and they take it down to 2.2014 to go in the game. Okay, and they run, yelled it up the middle for two yards.
Starting point is 00:36:12 The clock keeps running. Then Blake Portles throws an incomplete pass. Now, at this point, second and eight, you've just run it on first down. You're at Jacksonville's 12-yard line, right? The game's over. Okay? Yes. They throw it there, stops the clock. Now on third and eight, they run it, right?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yep. So now at 27 seconds, they punt it, they get two past. And then you can run it. Go to overtime. By giving them the extra timeout, you basically gave him the game. Well, that goes back to our boy Dougie Maron. Yeah, and usually Doug's pretty good at time matters, but this time he was in an extra time.
Starting point is 00:36:58 cost them. I mean, they kind of got, they overtime and they didn't, so. Poor Bortals. I thought I was going to all work out when they were driving down the field before he threw that pick to Honey Badger. It felt like it was a nice Bortles two-minute drive for the victory, but not quite. It never feels like a good boy. Two-minute drive tape, it never
Starting point is 00:37:23 feels that way. All right, final one. If you don't know, now you know, what's that for this week? Well, you know, Jimmy G's a really good quarterback. I mean, he came in and just a brief time, he looked like a professional. I mean, that's what professional quarterbacks look like, right? Yes. You know, And if you don't know, New England's defense's playing much better. Miami's not very good.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I love Jarvis Landry's. I love Jarvis Landry. They do everything in Miami to kiss Jarvis Landry's ass, right? And then naturally today, he probably didn't see it. And of course, Landry took right to his teams. So, man, we got nothing to lose? Why did we challenge it? Like, just blatantly called out as coach.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Here's a guy who's been defending him the whole time. They've been trying to trade him this entire time quietly because they feel like And he averages under 10 yards a catch, which he does, right? Yes. So they've been trying to quietly trade them, but they just don't want to upset their team. They don't want to make them mad. Hey, sometimes you've got to do it first, you know? It's such a millennial tape, it's such a millennial.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Well, did you see our boy Ferris, aka OBJ? He was at the LSU game this weekend against Texas A&M with all the kids. Oh, did he put the giant helmet on the field? Yeah, they gave him a whole welcome, and yeah, he was the star. He was a talk of the town in Baton Rouge. It was good to see. I was happy for him. They were having a good time.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Bat Rouge, they'll LSU run just enough. It's perfect. I love it. It's good. It's good. Anything for tomorrow night? We get the Monday night football game.
Starting point is 00:38:58 The Texans taking on the ravings. Anything to watch in that game? Well, it sounds kind of like a dredge. You got hope, right? I mean, look at it. You're sitting here, Buffalo 1. You got hope.
Starting point is 00:39:06 You got to find a way. You're playing at home. You're playing against the backup quarterback. You've got some hope here now, right? I mean, you would think you would play well. I don't know with Flacko. Yeah. You never know what a show up.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I mean, it'll be a boring game. I might have to watch California typewriter tomorrow night. I don't know. You may watch Godfather Part 3 before that. No, no, I won't. No, I won't do that. But I would watch California typewriter. I would.
Starting point is 00:39:32 All right, good. We'll figure it out. We'll put our programming out to the world on Twitter, I'm sure. This has been another great GM Street with you, Lombardi. I miss you in the studio. Thanks, Dave for Eagles. So the parade's going out to Seattle. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:39:51 We'll be back. Tuesday. We'll see you then. Bye.

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