The Ringer NFL Show - Most Exciting Rookie Receivers

Episode Date: July 25, 2022

Ben Solak and Danny Kelly discuss the rookie receivers who they are most excited to see heading into the 2022 NFL season. Hosts: Ben Solak and Danny Kelly Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Additional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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doing yet another of one of our daily episodes here, Monday through Friday. I am joined today by my dear friend, whom I have not spoken, since we finished the draft coverage and all went into our little holes to hibernate for the summer. Danny Kelly.

DK., what's up, baby? Not much. It's great to see you. It's great to see your face, smiling face. It's great to hear your voice. Like you said, it's been a little while since we talked.

I think it's been just like right after the draft. We all kind of, like you said, went to vacation and just decided to have a normal life after grinding the draft for three months. I'm about to say. After all the drafts, work, I did want to not talk football and I also did want to not see or talk to any one of you for an extended period of time. But it has been too long. You're getting that itch again, though,

aren't you? Yeah? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's training camps. Once teams start showing up for training camps and you start getting on the road, then it feels real again, which is scary, but it's fun. Anyway, how's Calvin? Summer good? He's having a good time. Oh, yeah, he's great. Calvin is my three-year-old son, for those who don't know. And he's doing awesome. Everybody better know. If you don't know that, stop listening to the podcast. I'm going to watch it here. All right. Today, we're actually at draft reduxing a little bit.

We are talking about the most exciting rookie receiver as we project out into the 2022 season. For those who forgot, and I don't know if you did or how you did, but Jamar Chase set a couple rookie receiving records last year. He's pretty good. 1,455 receiving yards, the most in regular season history, which passed the record set by Justin Jefferson, his ex-college teammate just a year before.

these rookie receivers have been playing extremely well over the last couple years. Chase also most receiving yards in a single game by a rookie that was 266 in that game against the Chiefs. He had the most postseason receiving yards by a rookie in NFIS 3 that was 279, even before the Super Bowl. A lot of records for Jamar Chase.

I don't think we're going to get a Jamar Chase-esque season from one of these rookie receivers, but I think we've seen enough rookie receivers be impactful in year one that it's time to start talking about and figuring out which ones are really going to boom for their team. But a couple teams really need it.

So, DK. Floor is yours, star of the rookie receivers. Who are you most excited to see? So that question in particular, I don't necessarily know if this guy's going to be the best or going to be, you know,

hit the ground running exactly. But I'm most excited to watch Trailerks for the Titans. Just because I think he has the most, he's the highest variance receiver, maybe the highest variance rookie in this class. I mean, honestly, I was super excited about him. I know that you were high on him

coming into the draft. very explosive player, big-time player down the sideline, catch point prowess, all that stuff. But there's questions about his route running. There's questions about, you know, the nuances to his game. He's going to be very raw. Is he going to be more on the Levisca-Cenault spectrum than, you know, the A.J. Brown spectrum. So there's just tons of questions.

Listen, listen. The Levisichinal breakout is coming. Okay, you just wait there, Tiger. But my question is, of course, what is he going to look like when we actually start playing games? because there's been all these reports that he's out of shape. For training, for the OTAs, he couldn't even finish like an OTA practice, which is, of course, concerning.

There's also concerns about just his ability to get into the offense right away because he is so raw as a route runner. So I just can't wait to see what happens with this. I really don't know what to think. Like, where do you stand on Trayland Berks heading into the year? Berks is also the one I'm the most excited about. And listeners of the ringer NFL draft show

will remember that Berks was my preferred receiver coming into the draft. I thought it was going to be the best pre-landing spot. If you could have hand-picked a landing spot for him, would pick Tennessee, because if he is going to hit, if he was going to work, like you said,

he's going to work on the AJ Brown spectrum. Where's just right, here is an enormous man over the middle of the field, who's able to take on contact, catch over that dangerous middle of the field, and then turn up field and increase something after the catch, which is what he did so well at Arkansas.

Anybody following Trainland-Burks in Tennessee, however, will know that minicamp, was rough for trailing because of asthma complications is the term used by Toron Davenport, the NFL writer for the Titans for ESPN. He's a wonderful, wonderful guy. He has reading from again, Tehran's piece, this was like from a few days ago. Burks worked on conditioning with a separate trainer by riding a stationary bike during mini-camp practices. On the field reps were impossible for Berks, so the Titans put him to work in the classroom to get the installation process down to be prepared in time when he steps onto the field.

So they are expecting that with, like, you know, I'm assuming allergy meds and more specific asthma treatment, that he will be able to be on the field. But they're like, there's a, there's a lot of wrinkles for a rookie receiver to be good. Asma attacks in the city of Nashville. It's not one that you expected to have, but his, legitimately, his sensitivity to whatever's in the air in Nashville. Because like, whenever I go to the southwest, like, I get allergies,

like I've never had in my life, like in the Northeast. So I get it. It's just like whenever that's got to get, that's the first thing that I would like to see get handled before we even get to like, can he deal with all the volume? Can he be NFL Corner 1s? I'd like to see him breathe successfully on the football. Finish a practice.

And apparently, yes, apparently that's something that's going to happen. I actually saw that his college coach, Arkansas, head coach, Sam Pittman. He was talking about how he didn't know what the deal with asthma was, but he basically was saying, Burks came into camp really out of shape as a sophomore and it took him a while to work his way into it. Of course, you can look at this as,

you can look at as a neutral thing. Like, oh, of course, by the time camp comes around, he'll get into shape and he'll be ready to go. Or, of course, you could look at as negative, like, why does this guy not in shape? So, again, he's the most high variance rookie receiver, I think, in this class. I think he has elite upside.

But, of course, he also could be a kind of guy who just really disappoints as a rookie. So I'm just really excited to see what happens with this guy because I think the talent is there and like you said, the fit is there because he is so good like that run after the catch, talent, he's really fast, he's really big. I think it fits this, what they want to do in this offense,

but he just has to put it all together. Yeah, so AJ Brown's rookie season in Tennessee, which you have to remember, they drafted him in the second round, not in the first. And initially he wasn't starting because you had to get Taj Sharp as reps, baby. Just got to get Tajay out in the field. NFL teams, man.

I love it. Yeah. So with only 11 starts with 16 games played in 2019, A.J. Brown, 52 catches for all 1,000 and 51 yards, baby. That is over 20 yards of pop, as well as eight touchdowns. If the Titans can get a thousand yards out of Berks, which in a 17 game season with the amount of volume that he should see, given the fact that AJ is gone, Corey Davis is gone, Julio Jones is gone. It is Traylin Berks, Nick Westbrook-Kakina, Robert Woods coming off of injury, and who do they have a title? Like, Austin Hooper? Austin Hooper, I think is the projected starter. He should get enough volume to have a thousand yards season. And right now, if you were asking me which of the rookie receivers is going to pick up 1,000 yards, after I hear about asthma-related information and I hear good news,

I would then say that Traylen Berks is the most likely. So Berks was also my pick for the most exciting receiver. With that said, there is a very clear, in my opinion, second guy, which is the dude playing in the Arthur Smith offense, who is going to get very similar, like, you know, it's a similar conversation, but this is Drake London and Atlanta. And he was the first receiver off the board in, when's the draft? April, late April?

Late April, yeah. Yeah, I always want to say it's May, but no, it's late April. They moved it around a little bit. Yeah. Drake London was picked eighth by the Falcons in a position where we didn't know, like it was Drake London could be first. Garrett Wilson can be first. There was the sneaky maybe

Jameson Williams is going to be the first receiver off the board conversation. London ends up the pick and the reason why is evident. Arthur Smith likes huge players. That's always been the approach for him. Atlanta led Hugo Jones leave,

right? He got to Tennessee. Lost Calvin Ridley last year to the year-long suspension for, he had his injury and the gambling suspension and that's a whole mess. Had very little receiver talent to support Kyle Pitts as their rookie tight end, who obviously had a good season and looks like he's going to be it, but it's not like he revolutionized the sport as some of us

were hoping. Year two, I think should be really fun. The best receiver they had behind that was Russell Gage, and then he left in free agency. And Russell Gage is a fine player, but Russell Gage is not a big, and Arthur Smith exclusively accepts and plays Biggs. 6-4-215 Drake London. talking about like if Berks is on the field for long enough and I'll get enough volume for a thousand yards, there is no competition for London to get targets. The only competition is Kyle Pitts. And like Pitts plays ex-receiver and London also kind of plays ex-receiver,

but that's just like legitimately a moot point in terms of how this offense works. Like Pitts as like a quasi-tight end, crossy receiver, London, they're both going to line up out wide. They're both going to line up in the slot. They can both freaking line up as actual tight ends. They can be attached to the formation. Lundy can block the way Corey Davis used to block. He is going to get immediately easier than Garrett Wilson in New York,

easier than Chris Olive with the Saints, 100% of the snaps when he's playing in this offense. I thought London was a tremendous receiver at USC. I thought that he deserved to be a first-round pick. I thought he deserved to be like a top 15 pick. I think that he's going to be a great contested catch guy. There are a lot of things I loved about him. Boy, oh boy, is the speed important.

And that is the main, that's the main thing with London, is that unlike a Chris Olavé, I think is a very high floor, unlike a Garrett Wilson, like, very clearly was the athlete that is the caliber of the NFL. And like, even though I didn't love his film, whatever, clearly athletically he's going to be able to hang. London, it's like, all right, he's going to be awesome, unless he isn't, because he's not fast enough, in which he's going to be terrible. There's that, that, that, that strata is really working, right? That big difference between ceiling and floor is scary. And so London is a guy that I'm very excited to see in the sense that, after like one game, after like a couple of preseason games and then like a couple of regular season games, I'll be able to tell you, yeah, he's just going to be, he's going to dominate this entire year. Or they missed.

They just simply, like it's, it's going to be that stark, I think, in terms of London's movement skills. And so I'm very excited for the potential, but I'm also excited just to see him because so much of his evaluation was like,

I love that he's clowning on these Oregon State corners, but I really want to see what it looks like against the NFC South. And we finally get to see that. I think it's going to be telling the way that they utilize him. I think like you said, the ceiling here is that he can move him around and play every position in the offense, play the X, you know, line up on the outside. But one way to mitigate his potential issues in separating against corners and things like

that in the NFL is to move him inside, get him off the line of scrimmage, give him a free release, things like that. Maybe that can be a way that they kind of mitigate things in year one. I know he played a lot in the slot. He was actually featured on screens way more than that. than you'd expect for a guy his size. He's a weirdly good yak player for being a four, six, whatever. Right.

It's just kind of bizarre. He's just kind of got like a beast mode mentality. He broke a ton of tackles after the catch. So, yeah, he's going to be, like you said, one of the most fascinating rookie receivers this year because he's, I think it's almost guaranteed he's going to get the playing time. He's going to get the volume. It's just what can you do with it? Can he separate at this next level?

You know, does he have the route running chops to be an extra? receiver or are they going to maybe feature more in the slot in your one? It's just, I think there's just a lot of potential outcomes here that's going to be fun to watch. And I think I lean that he's going to be really good. Like, I think he's going to be really productive as a Roofing. Same. But that question is like, you know, the speed question is a legit thing. I think that he has to prove that he can separate. This isn't a fair game because you're a fantasy analyst which means you have to know this. But okay, Drake London is the Falcons wide receiver one. Who's their wide receiver two? I mean, is it going to be Brian Edwards? Like, I don't know how

that's going to all play out. Alameday, Zakias is maybe another guy that they're going to have running a lot of routes. Loved Lomede coming out. They also got Auden Tate, by the way, which feels like sort of a, feels like an arbitrage version of Drake London, just like a big, tall,

catch, like jump ball guy. So I don't know. He will only ever play the Biggs, right? Zakias is there for his returner ability. He just happens to be the third receiver. He's his Caliph Raymond. Drake London, Brian Edwards, Auden, Tate. just absolute basketball team of receivers for Arthur Smith

with Cordarrel Patterson, another actual receiver at running back. Yeah, that's a good point. Like, he might actually be more just of a pure receiver for them. It's, again, another interesting position to watch. They have just this weirdly, like, interchangeable offense where everybody can do a little bit of everything. So that's going to be fun.

Yes, all big boys who can run after the catch. It is Arthur Smith just fever dream on offense. Atlanta. All right. Outside round one. So we've got, you know, Crystal Lavez there, James and things can be very fun

and he's healthy for the lions. Garrett Wilson, the Jets offense is just extremely perplexing to me because like none of these people have ever played together for a long period of time. Like who does Wilson want to throw it to? Like Zach Wilson, Garrett Wilson,

Corey Davis, or Elijah Moore. I don't freaking know. There would no sample size. And then Jihad and Dawson and Washington is like a perfectly fine player and then Washington is just terrible. Okay, so outside of round one, who are you excited about

What's another name that kind of piques your interest here? So I'm going to Sky Moore for the Chiefs. And I think the obvious, you know, the low-hanging fruit here is that it's the chief's offense and they just traded Terry Kill. And now there's a sort of a vacuum of production that's potential here. Can he step in and be the guy in year one? We'll see. You know, he's coming from a lower-level school against lower-level competition.

He's got to prove that he, you know, can play in the NFL and separate and do all the things that he was doing in college at the NFL level. That's, you know, a big if, I think. But the skill-s sense. I think really matches what the chiefs need, which is, as you saw last year, like Patrick Mahomes, yards per attempt,

his Ada all kind of like went down as team started to like do more cover two against him, you know, protect against the big play. They may have to do, you know, sort of like a more dink and dunk offense. You know, it's obviously not going to be like as dink and dunk as a lot of teams because they have Patrick Mahomes.

But they're going to have to matriculate down the field. And I think Sky Moore fits that perfectly. He's a really shifty guy off the line of scrimmage. He can separate. He's got huge hands. He's a really reliable, like, catcher of the football. He can run after the catch. His skill set really fits what they need to do.

But again, he has to prove he can get on the field. He has to probably rotate in with Juju Smith-Schuster is going to be, I think, a slot receiver for them. So there's a lot of, you know, he may not even play early on in the season, but I am very excited to kind of see what he can bring. And if he can earn reps right away. Yeah, Skamore is the low-hanging fruit. I very much agree.

It's the easiest answer. It's like, oh, I wonder if his mom's, throwing him, that's exciting. Where, okay, actually, this is like kind of an aside question, but you're here as a fantasy guy. Where do you fall on, like, how good Juju's going to be in this offense, as opposed to like drafting the sexy young rookie in Skymore? Because to me, Juju has always been a very, very, very, very, very talented player. And now he's actually a very, very, very, very talented quarterback.

And in my head, I'm like, okay, it's Juju. Like, the money's not right, but yeah, Juju's going to be extremely good. Is that too much of a simplification or what? No, I think, I think purely just based on, Like you said, the offense and the need for someone to step in and, like, be the main guy other than Kelsey, I think Juju is going to be that guy. And he has potential to kind of write the ship with his career and get back to what he was doing early on his career. I think, like, probability-wise, he's going to be, like, it's most probable that he'll be, like, the number two in this offense. And I think he'll be pretty solid.

But who's the number one? Kelsey? Yeah, Kelsey. I mean, just like de facto past catching hierarchy. I don't think Marcus Valis Gantling is going to be a high volume type player, although it sounds like he's been really impressive in training camps, or in OTAs, I should say. But yeah, I think Juju is the most probable, like, de facto number two, wouldn't you say? Yes, I think that Juju is not going to be the highlight real player for the Chiefs,

but I think he's going to be the more valuable player for the Chiefs. I wouldn't be surprised if in terms of stick moving and putting together drives, Juju is as, if not more valuable than Kelsey, just because last year was one of Kelsey's lowest years, I think it was his lowest year in terms of like, yards per route, run, Adai, yards up to the catch. And they're like, right, we don't want to be, we want to pay our stick mover $6 million,

and we want to pay Kelsey to go create explosives. So we're going to get juju here so that he can do stick move for us so that Kelsey can do what he actually does really well, better than a lot of people, which is the explosives. Markets' fault of Scanlan can do the explosives. And Sky Moore and Mikkel Harmon can fight for, like, screens and reverses that go really far down the field.

But like that, to me, that's more like gadgety as opposed to, I don't think Skymore can handle the volume that Jujahs. People forget, man, living over the middle of the field in the NFL sucks. You got to be tough of his nails. And that's what Juju's been for a long time. So yeah, I'm excited for Skymore. My receiver outside of round one is Alec Pierce, who I forget how much we talked about Alex Pierce during the NFL draft shows. But big Alex Pierce guy over here, for those who don't know, he was the receiver out of Cincinnati, Desmond Ritter's favorite target along the outside. He was drafted in the second round, 53 overall, one pick before his guy more, to the Indianapolis Colts.

That's interesting. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Never been a Pittman guy. I'm perfectly fine with Michael Pittman's eight-yard curl routes. I think that, like, that's, he does that really well, and that's good, and that's helpful to the offense. But, like, the Colts are really enamored with this idea of Michael Pittman, wide receiver won

120 targets. And it's like, okay. it's not that I would rather give Pierce 120 targets. I don't think he's that dynamic. I just don't see like this like Stars and Scrubs, Devante Adams with the Packers, receiver construction in Indianapolis making sense. Like if they wanted to be like all Pittman all the time,

he's dominating corner ones, and then just like we have the occasional Paris Campbell game, the occasional what's the Ashton Doolin game, the occasional Alec Pierce game. Like that to me does not, I don't rate Pittman even near that, let alone like, oh, I could kind of see it, but probably not.

And so to me, Matt Ryan, who has always been accustomed to kind of having this star receiver, if they try to work him that way with Pittman, I don't think they're going to find as much success on offense as if they just let Ryan be point guard and let this

Frank Reich offense work in the way that it has always worked with just distributing a lot of targets over a lot of different receivers. In which case, I think Pierce has the talent to be impactful in year one. He is a high caliber athlete, ton of starting experience at Cincinnati. So the onboarding should be a little bit quicker

as opposed to some of these guys from gadgety offenses and guys who are like one-year starters and guys who aren't necessarily NFL size. Think about like your Wondale Robinson's and your Calvin Austens and your John Metch's and your Taekwant Thorntons of the world where like there are athletic or experience deficiencies. I don't think Pierce has any of those.

Pierce is an ex- volleyball player really good above the rim. So he brings contested catch stuff. He brings downfield stuff. Ryan's arm isn't the best for downfield. And so I don't think that Pierce is going to be able to be like super high volume. But I do think he gives them field lengthening skill, field stretching skill that maybe they'll be absent of with,

with Tyoy Hilton currently not in the building. And so when you're thinking about this Colts offense, it's going to still be underneath. It's going to be Pittman on the underneath stuff, and it's going to be Naim Hines and the underneath stuff and whatever. Tight ends. But when you go,

but when you go to lengthen it, I think you'll get Moe-A-Cox creating intermediate and downfield stuff because he's so big. And you're going to be getting Alec Pierce stuff. too. And I think the Pierce can stay on the field. I think he's going to be above Paris Campbell on the Deptart, above Doolin on the depth chart, and I think he's going to be able to get those explosive gains. And so big, I was a big Alec Pierce fan. I didn't know if we'd be getting a round two Alec Pierce, but we did. And that that made me happy. And I do

think that the offense can be better for receivers than it has been, the Frank Reich offense in general, because quarterback-wise, I think that Matt Ryan is not just the best they've had since luck retired. He is clearly the best. Philip Rivers, you know, obviously career-wise, incredible, but like that era Philip Rivers was like Naeem Heinz 100 targets. And I just Matt Ryan is old but he's not that old yet. So I think it's going to be better for receivers in general. I think that Alc Pierce would be the beneficiary. I'd totally agree with you about the Matt Ryan thing. I think it's like a

bigger variable than people are making it out to be. So like you said, I kind of cover fantasy football really closely. And I think that could be such a key for unlocking. You know, I think Pittman is going to have a good amount of volume. But I also like you said, Matt Ryan's just going to be so much better for this offense in general. Like he's going to rise. He's going to raise the the roof in terms of like their overall potential amount they can score the amount they can pass the number of plays they run um you know the speed at which they run their offense all those things i think are going to like improve this year and alec pierce could be the you know one of the main beneficiaries of it

is there a guy in the NFL that he kind of reminds you of like do you have a comp for him um trying to remember who i wrote down when he came out like in this offense yeah i think about what alshon jeffrey was to the eagles when rike was there right and i like that one yeah like prime alish on relax like out of pierce well maybe we'll get there but when alishan was starting to get a little bit older which is what he was with the eagles he was a little bit more like all right i'm gonna get run a third and five slant or i'm gonna run a nine route i'm gonna run a deep comeback and like that was kind of all he lived with but it was enough right it was sufficient for the offense because all the middle of the field stuff was going to be like their tight ends it was going to be their slot receivers right

and that's like where you're going to see more pitman you're going to potentially see right like more mo alleycox and then the running back's going to be really involved in this passing game Taylor and Naim Hines alike, you know, and Hines will spend time in the slot and whatever. But in terms of your outside of the numbers, got to get a bucket, third down,

plus also like some explosives on early downplay action, while Pittman is good there, I would not be surprised if throughout the course of the season, Pierce begins warranting more and more of those targets. That's what he does well. And I think he does that at a higher level than Pittman does. I wrote down Gabe Davis. What do you think of that comp?

Like stylistically, usage-wise, big playability, you know, the ability to play down the sideline outside the numbers, like you said. I think there's some similarities in their games there. Before this off season,

I would have told you, yeah, I like that. The way the fantasy community is treating Gabe Davis right now, you would think he's the second coming of Calvin Johnson. And so I'm not sure I'm, I'm comfortable with that anymore.

But yes, Davis's usage also in college was very similar to Pierce's. Davis is a little bit more run away from you. Pierce is a little bit more get on top, like get on top of you physically, right? But still, like in terms of heat map-wise, route distribution-wise, very, very similar players.

Anybody else feel like shouting out? Tyquan Thornton? I have actually kind of intrigued by that. I was going to say Wondell Robinson, just because I want to see what the plan is here. Obviously, he went a lot earlier to the Giants in the second round that I think a lot of people expected him to go. And that would, you know, indicate or tell us that they have a big plan for him

in their offense. And with Dayball, you know, running the show over there, I just think there's a lot of interesting ways that they can utilize him. I don't have super high expectations for him to, like, really produce in year one, but I'm just excited to see how, what they want to do with him kind of do, because he's obviously very small, but explosive. He has that positional versatility to kind to be like a hybrid running back slash receiver. He played running back in college for a while. So, yeah, I want to throw, throw Wondell Robinson. Wondell for the Giants. I am so, so interested to see what this Giants past catching core looks like. And by interested, I mean, kind of dreading.

Yes. Very, very weird room. Shout out, Brian Dable. I am legitimately, earnestly, honestly, non-ironically interested to see what Vylus Jones Jr. looks like in Chicago.

Because, yes, that's a great one. That's a great one. Was the pick good? No. Was it made? Yes.

And in that it has been made, and it is now history and it is now dust. Right. What remains to be seen is, can they, stretch the field. If Justin Fields is going to work in the NFL, he's going to work as an explosive downfield passer. I don't love Darnell Mooney as a player overall, but I do think he's

a good downfield receiver. And I do think that if Uelish Jones works, it is working as a downfield field stretcher. So I don't think that Jones pick was a good pick. I don't think they're going to get return on their money. But if they do, it is huge for field. It is huge for that offense. It is huge for the positive development of the bears. So very important pick. I would have picked a different receiver, but very important pick. And I'm kind of interested to see what it ends up looking like. Because listen, us draft people on the internet, we have been wrong before and brother,

we will be wrong again. Yeah, I like that one too. Like Justin Fields, big game hunter. He wants to push a ball down the field. He wants to, I mean, play vertical, right? And I think, like, 4-3-1 speed. Vylus Jones Jr. as a 25-year-old,

he got drafted because he runs a 4-3-1, right? Or whatever it was, 4-3-something. So I'm absolutely with you. I almost kind of want him to just, like, ball out this year because so many people have been making fun of them for being 25. I'm almost like rooting for him. And I've been one of those people that's making fun of them.

Just like in the history, like you look back at the way that NFL drafts. Like, drafting a 25 year old like is not, you know, it's not going to work out all that often. It's just there's a reason he didn't break out until he was like a 50 year senior or whatever and he's 25 years old. Playing against a bunch of 18, 19, 20 year olds. So hopefully it translates. And I think the skill set does translate. But I'm definitely rooting for him now just because. I want to push back against sort of everyone making fun of the Bears for drafting a 25.

Shout out the Chicago Bears, ever the most reliable drafters of the NFL, not in the sense that it's good, but in the sense that you know what's going to happen and that it's going to be bad. All right. Thanks, D.K., for joining me here. This was rookie receivers. We are excited to see, and there are a bunch of them, Romeo Dubs, baby, Green Bay, better than Christian Watson.

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