The Ringer NFL Show - NFL Draft Round 1 Reactions | GM Street (Ep. 259)

Episode Date: April 27, 2018

The Ringer's Michael Lombardi and Tate Frazier give their rapid reactions to the best and worst picks from the first round of the 2018 NFL draft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podca...stchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is JJ Reddick here to talk to you about the JJ Reddick podcast, part of the Ringer podcast network. Currently, I play in the NBA for the Philadelphia 76ers, but you may know me from my previous teams, the LA Clippers, Milwaukee Bucks, and the Orlando Magic, or from my college days at Duke University. Being a professional basketball player, I have a great opportunity to talk to a lot of interesting people, and the podcast is a place where I can share those conversations with you, the listener. On my show, I sit down with athletes, celebrities, and a variety of other special guests. If you haven't already, please subscribe to this. JJ Reddick podcast on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts. Welcome to GM Street, part of the Ringer Podcast Network. It is Thursday evening. It is the 2018 NFL draft. I hope you've had your 41 cores lights just like Lawrence Taylor, Michael Marty. How you doing? I'm great, Tate Fraser. My first draft with you. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:00:56 You know, I enjoyed it. It was interesting. First of all, you know, I think it was fascinating that the first pick, it took so long for it to come in. Maybe Cleveland was trying to figure out what they were going to do with four, so they waited on one. But they've had this pick for six weeks. We know that. They had it for, I think, 110 days? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Okay. So, been written down. It has not been changed. December 31st, they were on the clock. But look, I think it was fun. It was an interesting draft. I mean, there was a lot of going back and forth. And, you know, nobody can actually always predict what the pick's going to be
Starting point is 00:01:26 because you're thinking fit instead of how people's boards are. But, you know, I think at the end of the day, this could be a draft. where maybe the last quarterback pick tape Frazier might be the best quarterback and the first quarterback may not be. Well, it's sort of like an inverse. You would think Baker Mayfield was a guy that has sort of, you know, caught the hearts of America and the football fan as you see it, the casual football fan. But he has these knocks of, you know, he didn't play in a pro-style system. You know, he was a little bit shorter than most people would want him to be to be a pro-tpical quarterback. His hands aren't as big. All these knocks on him, you would think, would knock him out of the number one slot.
Starting point is 00:02:01 But not the Cleveland Browns who had him right now. for six weeks. Look, and I think very clearly, I think you have to be, you have to be lenient on today in terms of overjudging the players. And so I wasn't a big Baker Mayfield fan. I respected what he did. I respected his competitiveness. But I thought there was times in the Georgia game specifically where when he had to make tight throws and tight windows, he couldn't do it. But that not being said, I think this, if you're John Dorsey and you're Elliot Wolf and you're Scott McClure, you're sitting there and you want to pick Baker Mayfield, you have to. You have to. believe that no one's going to pick them if you waited to four. So you could end up with Chubb
Starting point is 00:02:39 and Mayfield, or you could end up with Rokane Smith in Mayfield, or you could end up with Barkley in Mayfield, however you wanted to do it. I think I have the biggest problem with the Brown's draft management than actually trying to kill the picks. The picks, to me, are all subjective. We all don't know. Is Denzel Ward the fourth best player in the country? I didn't think so. But that's going to play out, and we're going to have time to analyze that. Was he the best corner? didn't think so. Mayock didn't think so either. Jair Alexander was what most people thought. Let's let it all play out. Where I think
Starting point is 00:03:09 I have the biggest issue with Cleveland was I thought their draft management was horrible. But let's just take it even a step further. Let's say if you, let's say you picked one and four, and we talked about this on GM Street, then how about trading up into the second end of the first round and you could end up with three picks?
Starting point is 00:03:25 I mean, you could have traded up to 20 or you could have given away some of those picks and you could have had Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, Rokon Smith, and then even Ward if you want them, and then come around and pick Lamar Jackson at the bottom of the round. So for me, I'm not sure I enjoy it. I like their draft management. And you talk about value. I mean, the number one pick, I mean, there was no other team going out and gallivanting the fact that they wanted to take Baker-Mayfield number one. They just, they felt, they fell flat.
Starting point is 00:03:54 They believed the rhetoric that the Jets were going to pick Mets. At number three. They believed that, which was completely wrong, which was completely wrong. the Jets like Josh Rosen. I mean, now I'm sure the Jets front office like Baker Mayfield, but the Jets as a whole like Josh Rosen. They like Sam Darnold more. I don't think the Jets ever thought that Sam Darnel was going to make it to them.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I don't think they ever thought that. But if they were going to pick, they were probably going to pick Josh Rosen. It wasn't going to be Mayfield. And I think where Cleveland got scared was, look, we're not, why should we trade? If we lose the guy, we can't afford to lose the guy. And that's why they did it. So I have a problem with their draft management. how they structured the draft, how they thought about some things.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You know, how the players turn out, that remains to be seen. To me, they weren't my top players. To me, I think they did Chicago a huge favor. I think they did Indianapolis a huge favor. I think they did Denver the biggest favor of all. I mean, Denver ends up with Bradley Chubb because of this. Now, let's just talk about this. Clearly, Dorsey was worried about Denver picking Denzel Ward.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And I reported this on GM Street a long time, a couple weeks ago, but Denzel Ward was a hot commodity for Denver. Yes. And he didn't want to trade away from that. The Ohio State Cornerback. Ohio State Corner. So here's what happens. When you fall in love with a player, then you end up taking a player where he doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:12 belong. You stay there. Whereas if you say, look, there's a range of players I like, I'll move back. That's what Ozzie Newsom did tonight. He moved back. He had a range of players he liked. And then when he had a chance to move into the first round, he did it. And he let the Domino's fall and then he made a decision after that.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Because he had a lot of players he liked. You know, the same thing that, you know, everybody. everybody talking about the Patriots were going to trade. The Patriots have players they like. They got locked in at 31. You knew the Eagles were going to trade. Baltimore wasn't going to trade with New England. They want to wait and see what happened there.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And then Lamar Jackson comes up and there's the deal. So you bring up Denver, and we have this situation here where we had three surefire guys that were in the draft coming into it. We had Quentin Nelson the tackle. We had Bradley Chub the defensive end. And we had Roquan Smith. Those are the three guys that we put as the top tier talent in the draft. You take that guy. You know you have a framework for a future Pro Bowl type of.
Starting point is 00:05:59 type of player. The Browns have two chances to get at least two of those guys. They get none of them. So that leads to a domino effect where now we're moving down the draft and that leads to these three teams and especially Bradley Chub who we both thought is the best player in the draft going in Denver. And look, Denver was willing to trade that
Starting point is 00:06:15 pick to Buffalo. Buffalo thought they had a deal with five. Buffalo couldn't make the deal because they saw Bradley Chub here. And here's where it really becomes effective for Denver. Denver did what I thought Cleveland should have done. Denver took a player to play opposite of Von Miller. So when the protection slides towards Vaughn, which it always does, you have a chance to
Starting point is 00:06:34 have a really good player isolated a one-on-one matchup and you could take advantage of it. Cleveland, Miles Garrett is always going to get a slide protection to him. He's an effective pass rush. You put Chubb on the other side. All of a sudden, here's the blueprint. Look, the Eagles showed us all. It's the most important position in football. The Eagles didn't cover anybody. They rushed them. They rushed people. They created turnovers. And I think to Cleveland, you know, taking a corner when you can get another dominant defensive rusher? For me, that's always been a violation. And it's now a trend in the NFL. After we saw the Eagles do that, you see a team like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a team that was sitting there. A lot of people thought they may take the best player available, quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:07:13 which is Derwin James at the time, a secondary player, but they go, no, we're going to get Vito, we're going to put him next to McCoy. McCoy's getting doubled, and now we're going to give some help on the inside. And I think the other thing, Tate Fraser, about this draft, that became crystal clear. And we always thought it was, we talked about it on GM Street a bunch, and it became crystallized with the Sequin Barclay pick. And then you listen to what Dave Gettleman said afterwards. I mean, you know, Gettelman's talking about Eli throwing the ball really good. He's talking about Davis Webb is impressive.
Starting point is 00:07:41 He's talking about how they're really, you know, how Barclay was by far the best player. It was the easiest guy to graft. I mean, their evaluation of where they are as a football team in terms of their quarterback position is vastly different than where I think they are and where some people, other people in the NFL think they are. But that being said, they went ahead and picked a running back when they have holes in the offensive line. They didn't do that. Look, I like Barkley.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I've said it all along. But to pick a running back, the second pick overall in the draft, I think you're picking a Bentley when you can get a Porsche later. And you're talking about a guy, Dave Gettleman, that is not necessarily known for doing this. We've talked about it extensively on this podcast that he usually leans defensively. But I thought it was an interesting quote that came out. He said that a lot of teams wanted to trade a hot dog and popcorn for the number two pick, which gives you a little bit of an insight that he maybe wanted someone to come. come up and try to get this pick from so he could go
Starting point is 00:08:28 and be like that way. I don't think he wanted to go too far down. I don't think you might, I mean, why would you want to go too far down? But, you know, this draft is really fascinating. Okay, pick one and two are quarterback running back. Pick 32 and 31 are quarterback running back. And if Sonny Michelle is just slightly below Barclay. A Porsche. And say Lamar Jackson is just, I mean, you're talking about now the difference in the
Starting point is 00:08:54 round. I mean, it's kind of interesting how it all panned out. Now, look, I like Barclay. I'm not in love with Mayfield. I like Barclay. And to me, you know, again, I'll say this. This is a Porsche. Mayfield, to me, was the value, and this is what I tweeted out.
Starting point is 00:09:07 The thing that I had a problem with Mayfield was, is, you know, when you draft someone, you want the value of that player to stay high. Okay? So you want that to stay high. When they pick, when they turn that card in, there's no way they could have traded Baker Mayfield for Deshawn Watson. There's no way they could have traded Baker Mayfield for two number one picks down the road. I mean, they lost value.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You can even make the argument that the Ravens wouldn't trade Lamar Jackson right now for Baker Mayfield with the way that they have the infrastructure set up. They probably wouldn't do it. You know, for me, you passed on Deshawn Watson last year. And I know that wasn't John Dorsey. I know that was Sashi. But you've collected all these picks. It still matters how the picks play. You can collect all the picks you want, but it matters how they play.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And it's going to be fascinated to see what Baker does. And you talk about value. And I think this is a good example between two. GMs that are sort of stuck in the same situation here. You have Gettleman here at number two. He's trying to trade back, but he says to himself, I can't get the value that I wanted this pick, but I know it's a valuable pick. I'm going to take who we believe the best player in the draft is. We're going to take Seekwon Barkley. Even if the Giants don't necessarily love Barclay, they take him there because they think he has the best value. At number
Starting point is 00:10:10 four, the Cleveland Browns are in the same predicament with Dorsey. They don't necessarily have a guy they want. They're trying to get teams to call in and make the trade. But instead of taking the best value, which would be Bradley Chubb, most would say, they take a guy that they like more and they take Ward. And look, they were talking to teams all through the draft about trading the fourth pick, but they were not going to trade the fourth pick until they were on the clock. Now, why? I don't know. Now, I thought that the reason they wouldn't trade the fourth pick, in fact, I text somebody in the league, I said, is the reason they're not going to trade the fourth pick because they want Barclay? He said, oh, no, no, they want Ward. He said, oh, no, they want
Starting point is 00:10:41 Ward. Everybody knew they wanted Ward. Now, I just think they got spooked by Denver at five, and they got spooked by the Jets at three, and that's why they did it. And I think they didn't have enough guys on their board that they like, to me, like, if they take Chubb and then trade back into the first round and get another corner, go get Mike Hughes at the bottom. Like, I just, unless you think Denzel Ward is Dion Sanders or Charles Woodson, you know, and not Justin Gilbert. And not Justin Gilbert. And he can make plays on the knock on, the reason why people's board were different,
Starting point is 00:11:11 where Alexander was higher than Ward was because Alexander makes more plays on the ball. Ward's not a great playmaker on the ball. He's athletic, he can, all that stuff. but he doesn't make plays in the ball. So that's where that became a problem. But look, I think Denver did the smart thing. They stayed where they were. They didn't go through the Josh Allen thing, and they made a pick.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And I want to talk about the number three pick, and that was the New York Jets, and it was a team that we talked about. Josh Rosen was their guy. And that's most likely because they thought that Sam Darno would be gone because either the Cleveland Browns would take him number one. Most people thought that would happen,
Starting point is 00:11:42 or maybe the Giants were going to take him in number two. But regardless, they had Rosen number one. Darno kind of falls into their lap. Is this a good situation for the jet? Look, I think it is. You know, look, I think they have an opportunity where they got a really good player who, look, one thing about Sam Donald, and I am hard on his turnovers, but I think Sam Donald needs a lot of coaching. I think Sam Darnold with Jordan Palmer has gotten better. Now, I'm not being critical of T. Martin and what's happened over there at USC, but I think there's a lot of areas where you can get some improvement in Sam Darner, because there's a lot of talent.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And I think there's going to be a higher ceiling for him. The Jets got lucky. I mean, the Jets got really lucky. They got a guy that, you know, Rosen has got some consideration. concerns about him medically, whether the concussions, whatever that is, you know, he's missed a game with a concussion. You take a quarterback who's missed a game with a concussion. You have to worry about that down the road, right? So they get away from that and they get a really good player, they get a guy who can the build their team around. I mean, this is a, this proved out to make the
Starting point is 00:12:37 Jets. Look, the Jets went from six to three. If they would have picked Rosen at three, they basically would have wasted all those draft picks because they could have got Rosen at six, right? They would have wasted it. Now they get Donald at three. it makes their trade easier to swallow than it would have been had they not. And they didn't give up the world to get up to say a number one. Like if the Browns were shopping that number one pick and saying we're going to take Donald as the smokescreen
Starting point is 00:13:02 to get the value and get the jets to trade all the way up to number one to take that pick. I mean, it just sort of fell in their lap. The same way, the Cleveland Browns, they did so many things that were kind of off the radar moves that it led to so many people winning. And look, and the teams that benefited from them are Chicago who get Brocon Smith. I mean, Chicago's dancing in the streets. They got a dominant defensive player in their front seven.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They proves their speed of their defense. Indianapolis gets a pro bowl guard. They never thought they were going to get them there. Quentin Nelson on Notre Dame. They get a pro bowl guard. And then Chubb goes to Denver. I mean, Chubb at Denver is, with that crowd noise in Denver, and with Von Miller on the other side, that's a three-run homer.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So, you know, again, I'm not trying to be picking on Cleveland. And I respect John Dorsey and Elliott, all those people. I think their draft management had a lot to be desired. And I just can't, for the life of me, Tate Fraser, I just can't figure out how Baker Mayfield can improve his stock in one year so dramatically. Like, that bothers me. Like, there's a reason why the ACC player of the year two years in a row, Lamar Jackson, does it.
Starting point is 00:14:05 The ACC has Florida State in it. The ACCC has some good teams in. Clemson. Okay? He's the player of the year when Deshawn Watson is in his conference. Okay. The man that went and led a team to the national title. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:15 But for me, I just can't get my hands around where this Baker Mayfield. Mania. It's mania. Where it came from. Okay, he went to Texas Tech as a walk on. Great. Okay. He played there as a freshman, made freshman, the freshman of the year, offensive player.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Okay. But then Cliff Clingsbury said, hey, the job's open come spring. He said, no, no, no, no, I'm going to be the start. No, the job's open. Since he was a walk on, they allowed him to transfer to Oklahoma. That statement right there bothers me. Okay. that bothers me that Cliff wasn't going to just give him the job.
Starting point is 00:14:47 That bothers me. And this is a program now that's been struggling to find a quarterback since he left. Patrick Mahomes there. He couldn't beat out Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, what did he go? 12, 13th, 11? 15th, somebody. Yeah, yeah, whatever he went last year.
Starting point is 00:14:57 This guy went the first pick overall. He couldn't beat him out of Texas Tech. So I just think to me, I'm having a hard time getting my hands around how he can just escalate that high up the ladder. And it's just an interesting situation as you look from just a full picture of landscape of where college football is right now for this, for this situation to get to this point. If you told someone last, you know, springtime at this time that Baker Mayfield was going to be the number one pick in the NFL draft, they would have thought that he grew four inches and he
Starting point is 00:15:24 threw 50 touchdowns. They would have laughed. And I'm, I tweeted that out. If somebody would have said Lamar Baker Mayfield was going to be the first pickover on the draft in September to every team in the league, if they would have sent that, they would have said you're crazy. Nobody, I promise you, nobody had him in their fall, in their spring scouting going into the fall as a first round player. The one interesting wrinkle, too, that I have seen, that even Dorsey pointed out that they loved
Starting point is 00:15:46 the moxie, they loved, you know, the way that he carried himself as a competitor, and there, there's no knock on that for Baker Mayfield. But a lot of that comes from having a chip on your shoulder, and being a guy that is a walk-on, being a guy that is not valued to be a starter at Texas Tech and then going to Oklahoma to earn a scholarship. When you're the number one pick, there's nothing to hide from now. Everything is on you. You are now the guy, and I think that'll be interesting situation.
Starting point is 00:16:10 If you can't deliver, if you can't deliver. And it's the first time you've been the touted guy. Right. And if you can't deliver and you've got to play in Cleveland and windy stadium in November and December, and you've got to make some really tight throws in some tough conditions against the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Baltimore arena. Who are fast on defense. See, this is what I don't think people understand about quarterbacks is when the defense becomes faster, it's really important for the quarterback to be fast, to be deliberate, to be precise, and to make those.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And it's the small margin of air. It goes back to what Brett Favre always said about. Hey, some quarterbacks can hit the doorknob, some can hit the door, and the great ones throw it through the keyhole. And that's where you've got to do it. And in that weather, whoa, that's a problem. And let's talk about a guy that's going to be in some weather. And another quarterback, the third quarterback that was taken in this draft, and that is
Starting point is 00:16:58 Josh Allen, quarterback out of Wyoming, someone that many would say probably would hopefully hit the door, definitely would not throw it through the keyhole. He's had some accuracy issues. But he does have the hands. he does have the 6'5 frame, and he does seem like the right fit for the Buffalo Bills. You know, I think Buffalo is going to have to develop this guy and grow with them and hope they can correct some of the accuracy issues. Now, Jordan Palmer claims that he's fixed some of this through his workout through time that he has.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Jordan Palmer, I mean, it's amazing. He's fixing everybody. George Whitfield must be jealous. He needs to get his broom back out. Where happened to George Woffield? I don't know. We've got to get the broom back. I mean, so anyway, you know, they think they can fix it.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I think the weather, you know, I tweeted out that, you know, Laramie, Wyoming, I get their weather's bad. but Laramie Wyoming doesn't have a lot of pro players playing on the field with the weather. Yeah, Laramie Tunsell is not playing in Laramie. Or any of those great corners are playing up there in that conference. So when you're inaccurate by just a little bit with weather, it really becomes a big factor. So, you know, for me, I think it's going to be fascinating to see if they can correct these accuracy issues. And I think they have to build a team around him, Tate Frazier, to compensate for this. You can't, like they have Kelvin Benjamin good.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But when you have an inaccurate quarterback, you've got to have big receivers. You can't have little guys that need the ball in perfect play. I mean, Danny Amadola, Brady put the ball where it needed to be most of the time, right? At Gronk, you can put the ball anywhere and he's going to catch it, right? So that's what I'm trying to talk about here. So I think Buffalo has to build their team with receivers, you know, Zay Moore, all those Jay Jones, those guys that have to be long-wing span because this kid's not going to improve accuracy quickly. And that is exactly what McDermott.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And obviously, you know, Billy B. All those guys that are up in Buffalo came from Carolina. They were with Cam Newton. They saw Cam Newton, who has groomed himself to be an MVP-type quarterback, and this was some of the knocks that he had coming out. So not to say that Josh Allen and Cam Newton have much in common, but they do have that as far as McDermott being involved. Let's talk about the Bears quickly.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Roquan Smith falls to the eighth spot. I mean, he's one of the three guys we had at the top. They couldn't turn the card in fast enough. I mean, they couldn't. In Vic Fangio's defense, you talked about him being Patrick Willis. I talked about him being Derek Brooks. I mean, this is going to be perfect. He fits right in.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He might look like Erlacker out there chasing down people next year. He's what he's going to look like. And I mean, he's going to make a ton of plays and he's going to give him a better team speed. I mean, this is a great pick. The interesting pick is finally San Francisco trying to fix their offensive line. I mean, that's a huge pick for Jimmy G. For your boy. Speaking of Jimmy G.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Let me ask you this. Really? This is what fascinates me about the NFL. If just hypothetically, if the. if the Cleveland Browns said to the Patriots, we would trade you the first overall pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. They would say, no. There's no way we would do.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Browns would say, we're not doing that, right? Nobody would say that, right? But today, today, could you get Baker Mayfield for Jimmy Garoppolo? No. But nobody, nobody, but see, nobody puts the names in to the draft pick that you're trading. If you told me you were going to pick Jimmy Garapolo, if you were going to pick Baker Mayfield, I'll take it a step further.
Starting point is 00:20:01 If you call the Patriots and said, I have Denzel Ward and Baker Mayfield, and I want to trade both of them for Jimmy Garaplo, I don't think they make that trade. I don't think they are. I mean, that's where I'm having a problem with it. That's where I'm having a problem with it. But Bradley Chub and Quentin Nelson is a different story, and that's where we talk about value in where you make these picks. You want to trade Bradley Chubb for Jimmy Garoplo? I may be that deal.
Starting point is 00:20:21 You want to trade Quentin Nelson for that? I'm doing that deal. See, that's where I have a problem with it. Anyway, I know we got off the Jimmy G. but McGlenshey gives him a right tackle that really helps. They need this for their offensive line. They're protected him. They were one hair away from getting Rokron Smith,
Starting point is 00:20:38 and I thought they were going to take, get him, but they went for the tackle. And we talked about Rokwon Smith possibly being the next Patrick Willis. That would have worked out if he went to San Francisco. I will say this for McGlinchie, 6'8, 309 pounds, 34-inch arms. He's pro-ready. Everyone's expecting him to be ready to go. Here's the other thing for the 49ers. There's no tackles in this draft.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It's a poor tackle draft. I mean, you know, jumping down, the Raiders take Colton Miller at 15. That's a little bit of a reach. He's not a physical player. You know, now he's going to play. But Gruden's got to run Smashball football, you know that. But he's not a real physical player. He's going to have to grow into that.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You know, and then the Raiders trade a third round pick that they got to move down for Martavius Bryant with the character. The 79th pick for Martavis Bryant. And I'm just going to say this to you right now. I mean, he's going to have a hard time learning that stuff for John Gruden's offense. I mean, it's not going to be easy for it. You tell me Spider 2Wabana is not going to be Bryant's favorite thing. I think it's going to be a hard thing to do. I knew they were going to do something to get a receiver, but to me, you know, Randy Moss got traded for a fourth.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Bennett got traded for a third? Come on, really? Seriously. Okay, let's go back to it. That's a life lesson. Number 10, the Arizona Cardinals said this was the time, if you were not watching the draft, all the quarterbacks were being taken. Josh Rosen is shaking in his boots. He's looking very frustrated, trying to figure out what's going to go on. He actually said after the draft that nine teams made nine mistakes before he was picked 10th by the Arizona Cardinals. What do you have to say by Rosen? Look, I think, you know, Steve Kime, I thought he was going to go up for Lamar Jackson because of Bruce Ariens. And Wilkes, figuring that he had, you know, he had a quarterback like Cam Newton and he understands that kind of offense. Cam Newton's influence is everywhere in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:22:09 You would think it would be, right? You would think, look, we played with Cam Newton. And, you know, Cam wasn't the most accurate guy at Carolina. I mean, there's things that Cam doesn't do well. But, you know, he went for Rosen, who's a really good passer. I think the concerns about Rosen for me are going to be the health issues. Can he do that? and can he really get together with his team and build the chemistry in the locker room?
Starting point is 00:22:27 I think it's going to be interesting to see. You know, look, Arizona was desperate to find a quarterback, and they had to make the move, and they did. And they actually gave up three picks to get Rosen. So they gave up the 15th pick, the 79th pick, and the 152nd pick to get Rosen. So, I mean, you know, desperation there. I mean, look, the other team that I thought was Mika Fitzpatrick for Miami, really good player. Get a slot corner comes off there. They needed somebody that could play in the back end.
Starting point is 00:22:53 they wanted character guys. I think it's clear. We've talked about this on GM Street a bunch. They wanted to change the culture of the locker room, and they did. And we should say this. This is the first time in NFL history. Someone can probably fact-checked this, but I'm pretty sure this is the first time in NFL history that we have had four quarterbacks selected in the first 10 picks. So there's a nice little tidbit there. I talked about the Buccaneers a little bit before with Vita bringing him in a defensive tackle for Washington to help Gerald McCoy on that line. The Buccaneers, a lot of people thought that they would take a guy like Derwin James there, but that was a pretty smart pick for them to stick with a D-Teckel. Look, I think they learn from people at least watch Philly. I mean, you've got to have, they got Vinny Curry now.
Starting point is 00:23:32 They've got, you know, they've got a little bit more, they've got from Philly. They got a little bit more rotation. They get a big guy to play inside there to help them again with the run. You know, look, V's it can be a really dominant player. And, you know, they moved down just in front of Washington who wanted, obviously. We saw Washington take pain. Who's a good player too, but we thought Washington wanted them. So you got to give credit for Tampa for making that trade.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I like both those picks there. I think the most fascinating pick of the night really was the next pick. The next pick, and that was Doran Payne that went 13th of the Washington Redskins. The next pick was the New Orleans Saints, a team that trades up to the 14th spot. Marcus Davenport was who they take at UT San Antonio. But the buzz and even in the room, everyone thought that when they made this trade, they were going to take Lamar Jackson here. Because of what they paid for it.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I mean, look, Ozzy paid a two next year to move into the second round. to do that. So whenever you pay a price of a first, you're either going to get a quarterback or a dominant pass rusher, right? So they send the number 27 pick, the number 147 pick in a first runner next year. And they moved up 13 spots basically, right? For 13 spots, they gave up a one. But this kid is a good player. But he's going to have to be DeMarcus Ware. He's going to have to be a dominant player because you give up that one. That's a hell of a price to pay. You know, now they had to go get them. They know they needed a pass rusher. I mean, Sean Payton was quoted as saying, hey, it's a must we come out of the draft.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Peyton does the same thing that Parcells does when he builds a team. So Parcells has this thing where Parcells basically has three sections of the way he works his team needs. You know, everybody just kind of Belichick, you'll see him do this all the time with his computer. He gets his laptop out and he has his team needs kind of let organize. So Parcells does it where he says, you know, we must. must have a player, we want a player, and we need a player. And so he has them in three categories,
Starting point is 00:25:23 must have one, okay? And so when you must have it, that means you can't play the next year if you don't have it, okay? You can't do that. And so when Sean made the statement, we must have a pass rusher, I know Sean's using that Parcellian approach to how to do those things. We want a quarterback, but we must have a rusher. So when it came down to Davenport, or it came down to Lamar Jackson, they went with the must over the one. But my question is, so they trade up to this 14th spot
Starting point is 00:25:54 and right behind them 15 is the Raiders. Did they just have no idea what the Raiders were going to do there at 15 or were they worried about the bills who end up taking Edmonds from Virginia Tech? You know, I think there was enough players on the board that there was not... They were just concerned they may lose Davenport. And there's no rushers.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I mean, Tate Fraser, there's no rushers in this draft. I mean, it's a hard draft to do that. And so you had to take the best one you could, and I think they paid a dear price for him. Now, if he comes in and gets some nine, ten sacks, nobody's going to bitch about it. But if he comes in and gets hurt, it gets four and a half and doesn't really take off, then I'm going to say, wait a minute. You know, I was sitting there thinking Lamar Jackson and New Orleans, oh, my.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Oh, my. I mean, you know, with Camaro back in the backfield. But look, I think that Davenport's got to play really well for them. And I will say this. It was a good night for Taysam Hill fans who wanted him to keep his backup job down there in New Orleans. So that was always nice. Let's get to the Buffalo Bill, I'm sorry, let's get to the Oakland Raiders
Starting point is 00:26:47 Colton Miller. You know, everybody thought the Raiders were going to go defense here. You know, everybody thought they were going to go defense. Let's be honest, nobody knows what the Raiders are going to do. I thought they would have taken Jarri Alexander and they take a right tackle. You know, they cut their right tackle
Starting point is 00:27:00 this year. It came back, they had a hole at right tackle, so they get Colton Miller. I hope he's strong enough to play. And then you add, they got the third round pick, but then they give the third round pick to get Martavius Bryant. So they moved down.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Basically, they moved down, what, how many spots and they end up with Martaio. Five spots. And they get Martavius Bryant. Basically, that's how you look at that trade. And, you know, whether that works out or not, we'll see. Was this a little bit of a, you know, we talked about this was not a very tackle heavy draft.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I mean, this is a bit of a stretch. I mean, he's 309 pounds. A lot of people, most things you see about Colton Miller is that he's a slender tackle. He's sort of a smaller guy. He's not a power guy at all. I mean, in fact, I was talking to a team the other day and I was like, and I asked the guy, do you like Colton Miller? And he says, yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I don't see it. I don't see the power in them. And he said, well, you've got to watch junior tape. So I watch junior tape. And then he called me back and said, well, you know, we kind of went back and forth. Now he's questioning his own tape. Yeah, he's questioned his own thing. So, I mean, look, can he get bigger?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Can he get stronger? I don't know. But he fits what, really, he fits what Tom Cable wants to do and run that zone stuff. But that's not always what Gruden does. So it makes sense in the cable world. Gruden said he's going to get in the eye formation with a fullback. So I don't think that's zone running. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:08 But he fits with what I could see this is what cable likes. This is the kind of guy Cable would like. And so we'll see if it works out for him. Yeah, we'll see if he's on the roster, you know, week four with how Gruden's going to work this whole thing. Let's get to the 16th pick. The Buffalo Bills, Tremaine Edmins, we mentioned before the lineback route of Virginia Tech, son of Farrell Edmonds, we learned.
Starting point is 00:28:26 The great Farrell Edmonds from Maryland. I scouted him when he came out. But, you know, the Edmonds family had a hell of a night. Yeah. They had a hell of a night. Two kids getting drafted in the first round. Virginia Tech and two over. Good for Beamer Ball.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, both them from Virginia Tech. I mean, this kid to me is the only thing I'm, the only thing I worry about what this guy is his overall instincts, but he is athletic. He's 19 years old. You know, it's funny. His dad, they said his dad, when I'd scouted his dad, his dad lacked instincts for the position, but he was a great athlete. You said he was a basketball player, basically. It kind of was a basketball player that was playing football. It was big 6-6, stiff, but it could run, you know. Like a Tony Gonzalez type? Not as fluid, but just big basketball player tied in.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Vertical, you know, vertical guy. But this kid's so inst, and he could be explosive. He's not as good is Rokon Smith. He can't impact the game, but he kind of can in certain ways. And I think Sean will do a good job with him because this gives Sean a guy that can play in his middle of his defense, whether it's the Will or the Mike, and give him more team speed underneath, which is what they need. When you're a zone team, Tate Frazier, when you're a zone team like they are, you've got to have speed underneath. You can't play if you don't have speed underneath. This kid gives him a lot of speed. So those are the bills, two picks for the night. They get Josh Allen. They get their quarterback that they
Starting point is 00:29:38 morning, they get Tremaine Edmonds, a guy that will help them on the defensive side with McDermott's background. Let's get to the 17th pick because at this point, the Los Angeles Chargers are on the clock. A lot of people were expecting them to make a splash. Philip Rivers is sort of aging out of his position. He's in the same sort of boat as Eli Manning at this point. The Chargers are trying to see if they're going to find a man for the future at the quarterback position. But instead, they go with the best player available, the safety out of Florida State, Derwin James, a man that only played 26 games in college. There's some durability questions, but the end of the day, he is a stud athlete.
Starting point is 00:30:08 When you look at this scheme of defense with Seattle, the Seattle defense, you get a free safety or strong safety. You know, you're talking about Cam Chancellor. You're talking about Earl Thomas. This guy fits. You know, you can't argue with the pick. It's a really good pick. I mean, the guy's a great player. I thought they were going to go for the quarterback of the future.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I get what they did here. Like, they picked the best player. To me, where I had a little bit of problem with the charges is to me, the charges should have tried to come back in the first round. I mean, the charges should have given up next year's one, get back into the first and pick Lamar Jackson and basically groom them for a year, get the five-year, get the five-year confidence. contract and let Rivers keep going and have somebody else. They need star power out there. I mean, look, they got a good team. Look, but Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, those guys are really good. That's a good football team. Gordon fixed all the fumble issues. Yeah, I mean, that's a, Philip Rivers is still a great player. That's a really good team.
Starting point is 00:30:55 They just can't seem to get any enthusiasm out of them out there. And I mean, they need something. And Lamar would have given them some enthusiasm, plus give them the quarterback of their future. That's where I had a little bit of an issue with them, but I can't fault them for picking that. James is a good player. James, by the way, thought Lamar. Jackson was the best player he'd ever played against. And we should also say Derwin James, you know, we talked about the old adage, you had the value of the 17th pick, you take the best
Starting point is 00:31:16 player available, you don't take necessarily who's number one on your board at the time. I mean, I think, I'm not arguing with the pick. I really are not. But I'm arguing with their draft management, again, like, okay, come back and get a guy. You just can't wait for it to come to you. You've got to go get it. And that's why Ozzy Newsom had a good night. Number 18, though, we're going to get to the Green Bay
Starting point is 00:31:32 Packers, and that is Jairier, Alexander, the cornerback out of Louisville from Charlotte, North Carolina, a guy that many people thought was the best corner in the NFL draft. I liked him the best. But, you know, look, he's a playmaker. He's fearless. His eyes are always in the backfield because that's kind of, he's always trying to make plays when he played in the Todd Grantham defense.
Starting point is 00:31:53 There were a lot of blitzing so he could squat on routes. He was waiting for things. I thought he's with the return game. He's tough as hell of tackle. Green Bay's different now. Green Bay traded back and then they trade it up. I mean, Ted Thompson wouldn't have moved one inch. He just stayed right there and picked.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I think Brian Guticus showed that he's willing to move down. And then when he saw the opportunity to move up, I mean, he kind of came in there. You know, and he jumped ahead of Dallas and he jumped ahead of some teams. I think that was probably a good pick. I like this pick a lot. Plus he returns. I think this is a good pick for Greenback. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And you brought up Dallas. We have to talk about the Clapper. He had both of his hands in his pockets the entire time while he was on camera. We were very impressed with that. Good job. Controlled the clapping. Yeah. Coach Clapper did a good job.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's what they tell you, when you're a detective and you go to a crime scene and you don't have gloves. They tell you to put your hands in your pocket so you don't instinctively touch something and mess the DNA up or mess the evidence up. So I think what the clapper did was he put his hands at his pocket so he wouldn't clap. Yeah, good clapper does not reveal his sources of clapping. Yes, of course. But how great was that draft in Dallas, though? I mean, the facility's unbelievable. I mean, that was just fun to watch. All those people, the crowd. I think the most shocking moment of the night for all the Dallas fans and even the people on stage was when Roger Goodell tried to use the stallback and Akeman and everyone to like do.
Starting point is 00:33:05 a smoke screen so everyone would cheer. How that Stalbeck's throwing to the crowd? Is it amazing? It was a great throwout. It was very sad that the people that are cheering, wearing all these football uniforms can't make a catch. You got to make the catch. Roger Stalbeck is in Dallas and he throws you a football. You got to make the catch. It's embarrassing. But the Cowboys, a lot of people thought they may take a receiver to replace Des Bryant. They stick to
Starting point is 00:33:23 defense. You know, they need Jaylin Smith. He's going to have to come back and prove he can play. Sean Lee gets hurt. Their whole defense breaks down. They get a guy's a one-year player, but he's a talented one-year player. and they get a guy that fits what they do. They're scheme-oriented, and it comes in and he's got to play. I mean, we saw the Cowboys break down when Sean Lee doesn't play. And so I think this is really a pick to help that out.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And we saw a reverberation from this pick. A lot of people were saying that Leighton Van derrish, who is from Boise State, people were saying that he is going to come in and replace Sean Lee, a guy who's contracted up in 2019. We both think that this may be more to help Smith than it is to necessarily replace Sean Lee. I don't think he's coming in. I think Sean Lee to keep being a good player. They just can't keep Sean Lee on the field all the time. And then let's get to the Detroit Lions.
Starting point is 00:34:05 They were looking for some help up front for their star quarterback, Matthew Stafford, and they get some help from Arkansas, Frank Ragnall. Look, I think whenever you start a program like Matt Patricia's doing, you start that program, you basically, the first player you pick, you want it to be symbolic of who you are. You want it to resonate to the team in the locker room. This is what I stand for. And Ragnall is a tough guy. He's a physical player.
Starting point is 00:34:28 He likes football. It's really a good pick for Patricia to be able to start his program all. and say, hey, these are the kind of players I want around my team. And I like them. I like the player. I think he's a really good player. I think they need to be more physical. They need a running bat.
Starting point is 00:34:44 They need a lot of things to help them. I know they sign like Garrett Blunt, but they need some things to help. But this really starts. It starts with the front. Detroit needs to fix that offensive line, and I think they did a good job here. This is a good pick if you were a fan of Jim Bob Cooter. And let's get to the 21st pick. If you were a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals, then you know that there's something in the water in Ohio
Starting point is 00:35:02 and they like to pick guys from Ohio and they take Billy Price to center out of Ohio State. Yeah, well look, they lose, they lost Russell Bodine to Buffalo. He wasn't a great center for them. They needed to get better in the offense. I know, and had 44 on the bench press. I've heard it all, but they needed to get better there. And, you know, they need to get better in an offensive line
Starting point is 00:35:19 because they got enough talent around the team. I thought they would pick Lamar too. I kind of thought that would be a sneaky pick for them. And at this point, if you were watching the draft, every single team that was coming up on the board, you were waiting for some sort of trade. People were trying to see if the Patriots were going to take Lamar, The Bengals were a hot team at one time.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So basically right now it was Lamar watch if you were watching. For us it was. But look, I mean, I can't argue what they need a center. They need offensive linemen. They got Andy Dalton. They don't want to cause any problems. So I think they move on. The next pick, you know, Tennessee thought that.
Starting point is 00:35:51 This is a Mike Vable pulling a Belichick move here. Right. They wanted to get him Belichick and see, you know, because he thought that he was going to take Richard Evans, you know. But, you know, I think where Bill is, if Bill would have thought he would have thought he was going to lose Evans, he would have moved up. It's not the Patriots style, but, you know, the Patriots had, they had needs at left tackle. And they take Isaiah win, who people had as a short left tackle, right? But play tackle at Georgia.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But play tackle at Georgia. It was a left tackle was athletic. They got away with Matt Light. Now remember Matt Light years ago was a shorter player. He was a 6-3 tackle. This kid's a six, two and a change, but he's got longer arms, he's got small hands, but he's got great feet. He's got good balance. You know, he gives him a chance. I don't think Antonio Garcia the kid they drafted in the fourth round, third round last year. Is he going to come back? I don't know. But this gives him a guy to go in and play left tackle. The Patriots could play right now.
Starting point is 00:36:41 They could go out and play a game right now with the team they have, all right. But they didn't have a left tackle. So now they have that they can go out and play. To replace Solder, and we should say Isaiah win for people that have not watched the tape on this guy. You talk about how great the Georgia running backs were and they were great. This guy made them look great. How good is Georgia program? I know.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's unbelievable. I mean, it's really unbelievable. It's something else. But Rashard Evans is a good lineback. We've got to give Mark Rick some credit for that because he could recruit. Kirby's been great, but Mark Red laid the Sunday. But you know, that's a desk in a school. That's a desk in a phone school.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I mean, all you need is a desk and a phone at that school. They just come to you. I mean, you just got to make sure you pick the right ones. Going back to Rashad Evans, I mean, look, Tennessee needs help at linebacker. They needed a guy. It fits what they do. They get them a little bit more speed on defense. I like Richard Evans.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I think he's a good player. There's times when you watch the tape. I thought it was better in Rubin Foster, but then I didn't. I think this helps Tennessee. I like this pick for Tennessee. Tennessee is becoming the Patriots of the AFC South. Well, they just, whatever their board is, that's what, Detroit and Tennessee do that. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:40 All right, here's your team. Let's go. The number 24th pick, this is what I've been hoping for for so long. Steve Smith, for people that didn't watch, he was on NFL Network doing some coverage outside of it. It was Steve Mariucci, Troy Aikman, and Steve Smith all sitting outside of the three of these guys. Why would they have Akeman outside? These are three NFL stars. Why did they have Akeman outside?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Let's get him inside. They had four quarterbacks picked in the top 10. You got a Hall of Fame quarterback who watched all the quarterbacks, put them next to you. With the Hall of Fame head coach next to a Hall of Fame wide receiver. I like Daniel Jeremiah, but Daniel Jeremiah was a scout. I mean, like you got a Hall of Fame. Like if they would have said to me, look, we want to put Troy in there, Lombardi, even though you were a G. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Okay, fine. I get that. You put the quarterback in here. That's fine. I can sit outside. You know, I mean, but that's- I expect to sit outside. I'm fine to sit outside. Look, I was always at the kid's table when I was a fat kid.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I was always at the kid's table. But, you know, even when I grown up, I was at the kids' table. Mickey wants to put me at the kids' table now. We usually have treats at the kids' table. Yeah, they always have better snacks. Anyway, but then I thought the line of the night was when Troy said that Norv Turner's going to put in a passing aim unlike you've ever seen. What has Cam Newton been doing? Explain this to me.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I will tell you this. I'm not going to get into Troy Aikman talking about what Norv's going to do with the offense, but what they needed was a possession receiver. And Steve Smith even said this on the program. He said, since I left, since they let him go, since Gettleman let him walk away. You know, he let him leave. He said, they have not found a replacement for me. He co-signed and said, this is the replacement for Steve Smith.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So if you were Carolina Panthers fan, that is very exciting news because when I watched the tape, when I watched DJ Moore, I said to you, he reminds me of Steve Smith. Yeah, I thought he was the best receiver in the draft. I think he's polished. I think he's tough. Look, what he did at Maryland is really hard to do with his bad of quarterbacks as they had there. They had no quarterback. I mean, they had nobody. I could have played quarterback.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Stefan Diggs didn't do this. Just think about that. Stefan Diggs didn't do what he did and how good is Stefan Diggs? Unbelievable. In fact, because of the quarterback, Stefan Diggs, who I thought at the time, when I was doing Stefan Diggs when he was a sophomore, I thought he was going to be a first round pick. And because they had so bad quarterbacking, he ends up going in the fifth round. And you kind of dinged them.
Starting point is 00:39:45 They were running them at the Wildcat. Just giving the ball. Exactly. This kid ended up making plays. I mean, it's going to be interested to see Norv and Cam adapt to this numerical system where it's going to be a lot of H option and they're going to be a lot of F2, you know, it's going to be a lot of inside routes,
Starting point is 00:40:01 how he handles that, and how much Wildcat and how much trick plays they're going to utilize. I thought Mike Shula did a good job last year. I know he got fired. I thought Mike Shula had his best year coaching. But I also think Cam now will have the best assortment of talent around him as far as. There are no excuses. They're not a missing piece.
Starting point is 00:40:17 He has his funches on the outside. He has Tori Smith also on the other side. He has now DJ Moore in the slot. He now has McCaffrey, who we have seen line up in the slot. He now, I mean, Curtis Sam, there's so many options now on offense for Cam Newton. Can they block them? Well, Norvell left, so who knows? I mean, can they block them?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I mean, I can't follow them because there's not a lot of offensive line I'm going to take here. So, you know, if you could, now here comes Baltimore. If you would have told me Baltimore picked Lamar and then Hayden Hurst, I would have said great. But they picked Hayden Hurst and Lamar and give them credit. I called him the brand new weed in of tight ends, and that's because he played minor league baseball. He's 26 years old or 25. One of the few guys is a good player. He can play on the line. He can play H. It gives them a little weapons in terms of offensively, which is something that they needed. The Max Williams
Starting point is 00:41:04 experiment hasn't come quite like they thought it would. And remember, they signed Ben Watson and that didn't really work out. It gives them a chance. But the bigger thing, let's talk about Lamar here. The big thing with Lamar is it gets, they give a chance to get away from Joe Flacco's contract. It finally gives him a chance to get away from Flacco. The original heist, the Flacco contract. Well, no, no, Flacco won a Super Bowl. You can't call him a I mean, I like... I'm going to call him a ice.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Something relating to pass interference on the field. I like Flacco at a time when he was throwing the ball down the field. You know, and I defended Flacco for a lot of years because I thought that they never really ran
Starting point is 00:41:39 the system of offense that he needed. They were trying to run West Coast when he really needed to be down the field with Kubiak, did with him play action down the field. But to me, Lamar gets him away from that. Now, here's what's going to be fascinating. When they go out to practice
Starting point is 00:41:53 and they put Lamar out there and they put flacko. It's going to be pretty obvious to the players. Who they want. Who's going to get him going. This, Lamar, in the preseason, you're going to want, I mean, it's going to be electrifying. I mean, it's going to be, whoa. And so he'll going to go out there and they're going to have a little package for them.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I think if Baltimore's smart, they have a little bit of a package. And we talked about this on GM Street. This is why they signed RG3. They're building a new offense for Lamar. That's right. And RG3 is a typical quarterback that you can put in front of Lamar. Because what do we say? on GM Street. If they would have drafted
Starting point is 00:42:26 Lamar tonight and then tomorrow called RG3 up and said, hey, we want you on the team. What would RG3 have said? He said, I'm not sitting behind a rookie. Exactly. Now he's got no choice. That's why that move was indicative of something else was coming down the road.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And it's a nice little wrinkle to have a guy like RG3 who he worked out so well his rookie year and everyone had already coronated him so early and then he's seen his career take this separate trajectory. So it's nice to have someone like that mentor Lamar as he comes into the NFL. Well, I mean, he can learn from, hey, look, you've got to play every week.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I mean, Flacco, now the heat's on Flacco. Flacco's going to have to step up his game. He can't just sit there anymore. And if you want to make the money, and the thing is, you can get away from Blacko's contract. You can get away from this year or you get away from next year, which gives them a chance. At least they have options to do that. You're talking about options, and there was this weird phenomenon that happened a couple days ago with Julio Jones and the Atlanta Falcons where, you know, it was a social media response
Starting point is 00:43:20 to him deleting all this stuff. You know, Falcons fans were going crazy, wondering what he was going to do. but the Falcons tonight, they draft an Alabama wire receiver Calvin Ridley and bring him in. And I don't know if that's insurance for Julio Jones or if it's another additional option to put on the outside with him. You know, I think when they've lost Taylor Gabriel, that gave him that speed element,
Starting point is 00:43:37 I think Ridley gives him a chance. And look, Ridley's got to get more physical, he's got to get stronger, but it gives them another weapon. And they need that. You know, they need that. They get the back, they get the receiver. You know, Julio takes some of the pressure off. I don't know what's going on with a social media account.
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Starting point is 00:44:14 I mean, to me, Denver got lucky. I mean, John Elway's, you know, he's happy as hell tonight. I think Lamar Jackson move. I love that move coming into the first round. I think that was a smart move. you know, I think what Buffalo tried to do to get
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Starting point is 00:45:13 I mean, they needed, they have so many need. They traded down. We talked about them wanting to trade down they did. I thought they were going to trade out of here again, which I think they probably should have done. And it didn't look like in their draft room, they had any offers to get out of here. You know, but I think they should have tried to move away, but they couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:45:28 You know, Penny's a good player. I'm not sure that, you know, picking a back for Seattle with all the things they needed, you know, that they could have gone in a lot of different directions. I know Seattle's taking a lot of heat from the socially, from the social media accounts. I mean, it's going to be an interesting pick. I think the guy runs for me. I don't like running back state for Asia that run vertically. Run tall.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Run tall. I don't like that. They always get hurt. Run like receivers. They run like receivers. Now somebody said, well, Jamal, Charles, you know, Jamal Charles had a little bit of lean to him. This kid runs a little vertical.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But what happened? Jamal Charles, unfortunately, you get hurt. That's what bothers me. So, you know, I think Seattle has to take a real close look at what they're doing. They've had that one great, they had that great draft, and since then they haven't been as good, and they've got to figure it out. Right now they're not off to a great start. And it seems like they're still trying to find that Marshall Lynch replacement at the running back position. The unfortunate thing with Penny is that he was tabbed as a guy that does not do well on pass protection.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, no, I mean, that's the problem. I mean, they're looking for Marshaun Lynch, but you could have taken Gryce or Michelle. But now, I think Michelle's knees were a problem. He's got bone-on-bone. Now, what that problem is saying, what the medical's saying there is he probably won't have a second contract. Well, most backs probably don't have a second contract. Like, Michelle's a better player to me than Penny. And I don't think Seattle would argue with that.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I think Seattle must have medical on Michelle. Well, and you've got to talk about pass protection. And suddenly Michelle is by far the best pass protector in the drafts as far as running backs go. So the 28th pick that we're also the whole time here, we're still in Lamar Watch. So the Steelers are there at 28. You're thinking about maybe a guy that comes in and backs up in for one season, learns the learns the ropes from him. But instead they take the second Edmonds brother, Terrell Edmonds, the safety from Virginia Tech.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Yeah, I mean, look, I thought it was great. Ryan Chazir walked up there and gave the pick. I think that's awesome. It was an amazing moment. It was an amazing moment. And I feel good about that. The Steelers, they wanted to improve their lineback and core. They wanted to improve the middle of their defense.
Starting point is 00:47:19 They felt like that's what they need to do. I think they're tired of watching Gronk run down the field and maybe they feel like Edmonds can match up and be the guy that can take them out. All these moves are predicated to stop somebody you can't beat and Pittsburgh can't beat New England. So maybe Edmonds gives them a dimension that can do that. I think he may.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I like the Edmonds family. We talked about the Chubb family and how impressive they were. The Edmonds won tonight. So congratulations. They won the night. There's no doubt. Let's get to the number 29 pick. And we're also, once again, we're on Lamar.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Watch the Jacksonville Jaguar as a team with Blake Bordwell as a quarterback, always looking for another option, but instead they go with Tave and Brian, the defensive tackle water forward. I really thought they were going to pick Lamar. I really did. Somebody in the league told me that Lamar wouldn't get past Jacksonville if he made it that far.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And that surprised me. And they take an inside nickel rusher, which look, Jacksonville is going to take Jacksonville subscribes with Tom Coughlin to the New York Giants grading system. They're going to want clean players, which means they don't have anything. They want size speed clean. This kid's got really good first step quickness. Tavon Bryant.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Tavon Bryant. He's got good quickness. I don't like him on the second step. I think he gets bounced around a little bit too much in there, but he's a nickel rusher, and he'll fill a really good situation. Because their defensive line has so much depth in it, he'll be able to play 20 plays and have an impact.
Starting point is 00:48:31 If he has to play 40, I don't think he'd be as good. I'm going to read the names too on the Jackson-O-Jaguar defensive line for people that don't know. Callais Campbell, Malik Jackson, Marcel Darius, Tavon, Brian, Avery Jones, unique, you know, can't even say his last name, but In Gokwe, Dante Fowler Jr. I think I got it. DeWan Smoot.
Starting point is 00:48:47 So that's a ridiculous. That's Philadelphia Eagle time of depth. And they got a better secondary than Philly had. They're basically the AFC Eagles at this point. And look, I'll say this again. If they would have had Deshawn on their team instead of Fournette, they would have won the Super Bowl. Or maybe Lamar Jackson. Well, we're already going too long here.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Let's go. Let's go. Minnesota Vikings, Mike Hughes, the quarterback out of Central Florida. I like Mike Hughes. I think Mike Hughes makes plays on the ball. I had him as a good player. I had him in my top 15 of defensive players. I think he's got range.
Starting point is 00:49:14 He's instinctive. He knows how to make plays on the ball. He shows a burst. It's a good pick for it. Look, one thing about Mike Zimmer, it's not hard to figure out. He takes corners. He'll take defensive ends. He takes some offensive alignment.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You can just put Arden Key on the Vikings. He's the classic guy. He's the guy who underachies in college, doesn't play real well. Minnesota will get him like Danielle Hunter, and next thing you know, he'll have eight sacks. Yep, and that's exactly what Mike Hughes will do. You talk about some guys that are getting long in the tooth on the back end with that secondary. He'll fit in perfectly with Zimmer. The New England Patriots, they come up 31.
Starting point is 00:49:45 We're still in Lamar Watch. We're still wondering what's going to happen. They go with your guy, Sony and Michelle, the running back. kind of Georgia. I love Michelle. I think he's a great player. I really do. He's my second favorite back in the draft. I think he's explosive. Seven yards of carry. Can catch, can run. I mean, he's going to make their spread. He's a better Dionne Lewis. I mean, I love Dionne, but this kid's a more powerful, more physical Dionne Lewis. He gives them something that they really lose in Lewis that they didn't have. I think it's a great player. The only concern is the
Starting point is 00:50:10 medical. If he can stay healthy for five, six years, it's a great pick. When you talk about big play factors on the New England Patriots, Sony, Michelle is going to be a type of an athlete that we have not seen there in quite some time. Yeah, I mean, Dion had it, but this kid's more explosive and bigger. I mean, this kid's more explosive and bigger. This kid's... This kid's no dink and dunk. This is handing the ball one cut and you might have a 70-yard touchdown. Yep. The last pick and then this was a trade, they trade back in, the Baltimore Ravens, a team that everyone was very upset with when they made the Hayden Hurst pick, but they redeem, they repent their sins and they come back into the first round and they draft Lamar Jackson, now a
Starting point is 00:50:42 first-round quarterback. And we talked about, we thought, we thought Baltimore was a team that would pick them. And, you know, and they ended up doing it the 30-second pick. Give Ozzy credit. I think it's a great pick. I think John Harbaal had interest in the quarterback. I think they wanted to go somewhere else. This gives them some options.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And I think this will be a really interesting place for him to go to. Because remember, now, Greg Roman, the co-offensive coordinator, he had Kaepernick in San Francisco. So he's had a guy that has a little bit of style in terms of how to run this. So it'll be interesting. I think they'll have a package for him right away. I think he'll go in there sometimes for Flacco during the regular season, and he'll put the defense on alert. Do we have a situation ever where Lamar Jackson is in a game doing great in his pack, just running his 15 plays, and the Ravens just let him go.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And it's the end of flaco. It's the end of flacco. It'll be the end. It'll be soon. It's coming. It's coming. Take that flacko. Well, this has been another edition of GM Street.
Starting point is 00:51:34 This is the wrap up of the first day, the first round of the NFL draft. We will be back Monday. To wrap up the whole thing. Yes, to wrap up the entire draft. And then you're going to go back to the East Coast, correct? No, I'm going to, well, I've got to go back to East Coast for a day. But that's only on Wednesday. I'll be back.
Starting point is 00:51:48 We'll be back. Monday. We'll be in personal money to wrap up the entire draft. We appreciate everyone for listening. This has been a fun GM Street, and congrats to all 32 teams on all the new players. Great day. Thanks, Dave Fraser.

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