The Ringer NFL Show - Philip Rivers Is Back! Is This a Good Idea?

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Sheil and The Ringer’s own Billy Gil share their instant reactions to the Indianapolis Colts signing Philip Rivers, and analyze the legacy implications of the 44-year-old QB coming out of retirement. (00:00) The Indianapolis Colts sign Philip Rivers(1:35) Is this a good idea?(18:49) Philip Rivers the family man(20:48) The other possible QB options for the Colts(24:33) Philip Rivers’s legacy This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit ⁠www.rg-help.com⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Sheil KapadiaGuest: Billy GilProducer: Chris SuttonSocial: Kiera Givens and Brian WatersProduction Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm Shield Capadia, and today we are talking about Philip Rivers returning to the NFL. This is not some type of April Fool's joke. He is coming back to the Colts, signing to the Colts practice squad at 44 years old. And it sounds like he could get on the field sooner rather than later. So this is the most stunning story of the 2025 NFL season, a very interesting wrinkle. here in December as the Colts reached this desperate mode with Riley Leonard going down, Daniel Jones going down, Anthony Richardson still not back. Why is Philip Rivers doing this? Why are the

Colts doing this? How will this play out? Are we in favor of it? To talk about it all, we've got on, my friend from the ringer, Billy Gill. We go at all kinds of different directions with this story, which is a fun story. It is a fun story to have here in December. So let's take a break. We come back, we talked to Billy about Philip Rivers returning. This episode of The Ringer NFL show is presented by State Farm. Having insurance isn't the same as having State Farm. It's like expecting the leadership of a team captain on the football field, but getting a sea captain?

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grandpa in recent years, which I didn't realize until reading the coverage today. Let's just start with, how do we feel about this? Is this a good idea? How is this going to play out? What are the angles of this that most interest you. So I think the most important angle, first of all, for us in this pod, right, is it's a nice juicy story to fill a Wednesday. When normally it's like hump day of the week and it's kind of like, are we still recapping last week? Are we previewing next week?

And boom, the Colts do something that no one was expecting. You know what? We have an injury at quarterback, not their first injury of the season at quarterback. What should we do? Who do we turn to? And they blessed us with the Phillip Rivers. I don't know if you were probably like everyone else who was kind of consuming it in real time

where there was just kind of the rumors, the reports before Monday night football. And it was almost like the panels were in disbelief as Adam Schaefter would reveal what the cults were actually up to at the time. Like what a wild story just to pop out of nowhere. For a team, which by the way is still very much in it and alive and should probably not be turning to a 44-year-old who hasn't been in a league for five years.

Or should they be? is the question. You know, listen, there could be a zag on this. The wildest thing is that I didn't remember. I was like, when is the last time Philip Rivers played in the NFL? Has it been a couple years? Has it been three years? It's been five years. Has not played since 2020. Five years ago, the Colts went 11 and 5 that year. He was an above average player. But now, you know, they have the injury to Daniel Jones. Riley Leonard comes in. He hurts his knee. Anthony Richardson had the orbital fracture. And just like the reporting on this is incredible. Like I was reading the ESPN report before, you know, it got finalized that he's going to join the practice squad. And they said

the Colts believe Rivers familiarity could give them a realistic chance to stay competitive. I mean, this is incredible, Billy, this is, I don't want to say unprecedented because I was looking up how many quarterbacks have played at age 44 or older. And since 2000, you have Warren Moon. He played in 2000 with the Chiefs. He went 12 for 31, for 13, for. 130 yards. I don't know if you remember that or not. Who can forget it? Who can forget? Yeah, Vinnie Testiverty in 2007, throws

97 passes, completes 54% of them with the Panthers. And then, of course, just the crazy two Tom Brady outliers here with his two seasons with the box. But I'll go on the record. I think this is great for team content. I'm with you. Not only for a random Wednesday in

December, but for Sunday, if he actually plays against the Seattle Seahawks, which it sounds like is possible, Well, guess what? I'm going to be tuning in to watch Philip Rivers at age 44. And I'll tell you the other thing on behalf of all the old guys out here. You know, you get to a certain age where you get really excited when the old guys do stuff like this. You know, like LeBron last week was in Philadelphia playing the Sixers. He just took over the game in the fourth quarter.

I'm like, LeBron's doing that at 40. Now I'm like Rivers is getting out there at 44. You know, I might have a little shoulder tendonitis in the left shoulder here. But who knows what I'm capable of, Philly? So I'm all for this. I'm going on the record. I love it. Well, so here's the question that I have for you before we get into it,

because I also went to see how it is that he finished. Because I forgot. Like, I just thought Philip Rivers, I remember when he signed with the Colts, you're kind of like, why is Philip Rivers signing with the Colts? And he had one season there and kind of just retired. And I looked back, it wasn't a bad season. Didn't have a bad playoff game either.

Like, it was decent. But back to the age for a minute because you're rooting for the old guys as am I. Here's my question to you in regards to Philip Rivers. because he's been out for five years, could this be a situation where he is the old guy, but he still has some miles left because everybody's talking about how old he is and the NFL is trying to be cute

and they're putting out there, Philip Rivers is older than 12 head coaches in the NFL. Now, his head coach, included now, his new head coach, Shane Steichen is on the list of coaches that he's older then. And Sean McVeigh, by the way, not that there's going to be a Sean McVeigh thing, but the fact that Sean McVeigh is still only 39 when it feels like he's been a head coach for 10 years is insane.

Like the age of a lot of these coaches, honestly, and I don't know if you felt like this, but when you see how young some of these head coaches are in the NFL, I look at myself in the mirror and I think, wow, you've accomplished nothing with your life. These people are around your age, and there's so much more advanced in their careers, they're so much more successful than you are.

You, Billy Gill, are a failure. And you know what? I'm looking into Phillip Rivers, and I'm hoping that he goes out there and he says, you know what? No, these young pipsqueaks, these 39-year-olds, these 38-year-olds, I'm not listening to them. I'm Philip Dam Rivers.

He probably wouldn't say, damn. He'd probably say like, dang rivers or something, right? And then he'd come in here and he'd take over. But do you think that this is a situation where the five years off has kind of, he's gotten his body to kind of feel a little bit better, loosened up his arms? I was reading a report where they were saying he stayed in shape because he's a head coach now of a high school, which I don't exactly understand. But we can also get into his high school coaching success or lack thereof because I did some

some digging into that as well. And I have records for you if you'd like that. We have all kinds of places we can go with Philip Rivers today. Well, to your point, I do think, you know, we always make such a big deal. Like, ah, they had the buy last week, you know, they're going to come back and they're going to be fresh. And you might have had this nagging elbow injury or knee injury. But man, that one week off, the two weeks off, the 10 days, all they played on a Thursday. Now they play on a Monday. They're, this team's going to be so fresh. He's had five years off. I mean, listen, there's got to be some rest and recovery there.

It's not like he was ever the most athletic guy. You know, he basically has to field the snap and throw the football. He doesn't, he is not going to have to run more than five yards at a time unless it's like a two-minute drill. So yes, I think that I think maybe it worked in his favor a little bit. Mentally, this is going to be so easy for it, you know? Like I was reading, you know, to get to your high school thing, it's like I was reading that he ran the same offense that Shane Steichen has. has been running. And they've been talking, so he knows the offense. He's seen every blitz package. He's seen every coverage known to man. That part's going to be easy. I do wonder about

like the two-minute drill stuff when he has to run. But it could it be a disaster? Sure. But guess what? You know what? You don't know if you don't try and I'm glad he's trying. Well, here's the thing. Okay. So we talked about how we both looked up 2020. In 2020, he was 11 and 5. He made the playoffs. He threw for over 4,000 yards. He had 24 touchdowns, 11 interceptions. He made it of the playoffs and lost to the bills, but only lost 27 to 24. He had 300 yards, 300 plus yards in that game. Like, he went out kind of not on top, but he didn't go out like kind of in an embarrassing fashion where it's like, oh, he should definitely be retiring.

And you know who I feel bad for here? Who's that ripping? Poor Brett Rippin just can't get a shake, man. He probably saw all these other people getting their actual physical breaks. And he's like, you know what? This is my shot here because Brett Rippin was sitting pretty when he was in Cincinnati this and he's like, oh my gosh, Joe Burrow has hurt. This is great for me until they said, you know what?

No, we're going to trade for Joe Flacco, and you are no longer needed on this team. So then he gets released. Then he signs with the Colts. He's probably thinking, when am I going to get a shot at the Colts? Daniel Jones now is this new version of Daniel Jones. I'm never going to see the field. Third string, four string on the depth chart. And sure enough, everything breaks exactly right for Brett Rippin.

And no, they've decided, you know what? let's go with Philip Rivers at 44 years old. Sure, he hasn't played in a while, but I guess to what you're saying, he stayed in shape and he's been running the same offense for his high school team, so why not give him a go? So maybe some tension in that quarterback room, you're saying, you know, Philip Rivers comes in

and it's like, hey, is the cafeteria still over here? And Brett Rippin's like, whatever, man. Like, I'm not, yeah, I'm not helping you out. This was my job. This was my time. And now you're coming out of nowhere. everyone's all excited. You know, you got that charm, you got that Alabama accent,

and everyone likes you. And now I'm just sitting back here holding the clipboard. I think that is a good sort of under the radar angle to watch here, Billy. Now, I do want to get to the high school thing, but I did want to ask you this. As a fellow father, you know, as I am. Philip Rivers has 10 kids ranging from 2 to 23.

And this is from the official, I believe it's Wikipedia. I believe it's, is the pronunciation there. That's where I got this information. Proper citation is important. Five are teenagers. He's got the grandkid. Now, at that point in his life, I'm wondering, is he like, this is kind of a fun one month to a month break for me?

You know, like I love my kids. I love spending time with my kids. We've had a great five years. But some of these kids are getting on my nerves. You know, they're going through puberty, the emotions, maybe the younger kids are a little bossy. And he's just like, I'm going to go chill in Indy. You know, it's an indoor stadium.

So, you know, don't worry about the cold. You can get to everywhere in Indy through the tunnels. I'm going to go hang out with the boys for a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Get a couple lifts in. Throw the old pigskin around. Get some money in my pocket because this is 10 kids. We're sending to college potentially.

If they decide to go that route, grandkids too. Is this kind of like, let's just, you know, go hang out with the boys for a little bit. Because he can't ask right now, he can't be to his wife like, hey, I'm going on a golf trip with the boys. With 10 kids, I imagine that is just not going to fly.

So this is kind of his version of that. It's a good question, right? The interesting thing about the age range of his kids is that his oldest child is a couple months older than Riley Leonard, which is like going to be an interesting situation. I think like three or four months older than Riley Leonard. So I was thinking that too.

And I was thinking, you know, Obviously, when you hire a Philip Rivers to be the head coach of your high school football team, you're very exciting. You jump at that opportunity. Who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to have Philip Rivers be your coach, right? But what kind of message are you sending to your team if you bail on them to leave to the NFL? You just leave them high and dry. This is an important time in the football season in high school football.

So I did a little digging, and I looked up St. Michael Catholic High School and how it is that their season is going. St. Michael Catholic High School, they unfortunately lost in the final four of the Alabama State Football Championship. Oh, that's pretty good. They had a great season. They were 13 and 1.

They lost in the final four to Jackson. Now, Jackson is a familiar foe because as I'm sure you know, last year, St. Michael, was 12 and 2. And they lost in the final four to Jackson again. No, back to back. Back to back final four losses to Jackson. Seems to really be a thorn in the side here,

for St. Michael and for Philip Rivers, it was a nice little story that they have going on here because the previous years, 2023, 2024, they were six and five. They lost in the first round to Handley, but they then have advanced like three more rounds. So they're trending in the right direction. 2022, 2023, they were 5 and 5. And his first season, they were 7 and 2.

So he's definitely got them going in the right direction. Now, here's the good part about this. He's not really bailing on any commitments here because they've already been eliminated. He can know. Exactly. He can go scratch that itch. He can go play in the NFL a little bit longer now.

Again, get a couple of walking around money for old Philip Rivers. You know, maybe we can put that towards the younger grandkids. Maybe put that in like some sort of IRA or something. I don't know exactly how that financial stuff works. I'm to be honest with you. I've not someone who's made the amounts of money where I'm storing it away for rainy days for grandkids. We can talk 529 off air. Yeah, we can have that conversation.

All right. All right. I think that's the right number. Maybe that's what he's doing. But he's not sending a bad message because next year, I mean, we know, we should know. Listen, maybe he comes in there and he lights the world on fire and they say, you know what? You got to stick around for age 45. But it's probably not that.

This is probably just a couple month rental here. So why not go out there, have some fun. To your point, look, between us, dads here and the listeners, dads, moms, whoever's listening. Not the kids. Kids turn away for a second here, okay? You don't want to hear this. Here's the thing. My kids were around.

They had, I don't know why, but down here, they got the entire week off for Thanksgiving, which I thought was excessive. I remember, like, back in the day, we'd get off maybe a half day on Wednesday, then we'd get Thursday and Friday. We'd have to sell pizza or whatever, like, wrapping paper, whatever it was, and then you'd earn, like, the half day off.

Now they just give the kids the entire week off, which is insanity. And someone who's working from home, I was really excited for this week to start up again at Thanksgiving to be over. if I'm going to be honest with you. I was ready to get back from the Thanksgiving break. It was a bit much.

So I think that Philip with 10 kids running around and grandkids, I would imagine he's looking for things to do here. And I know that here's the other awkward part about it. And I don't know how we're going to come back from this situation, right? And Philip coming back, we have two awkward situations. Number one is about a week ago to 10 days ago, Philip was announced as a semi-finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So if Philip is, he's now signed with the Colts, to my understanding, if he is added to the active roster, then we reset the clock.

If he's not added to the active roster, he's just there, practice squad, whatever, he's just hanging out with the boys. I think he's still good. But all signs would indicate that he's going to be signed to this active roster and maybe starting in like three days, which is wild. And then he's going to have to sit for five more years before he gets into the Hall of Fame, which is crazy. but we'll get to the Hall of Fame later because I did some digging and I've started connecting some dots shield. Now, here's the other awkward situation with this.

A couple months ago, Philip Rivers, who again retired in January of 2021, did that thing where he went to the Chargers and he signed a one-day contract to retire as a charger. Now he is unretiring and he's going back to the Colts, which is an uncomfortable situation because when he does retire again, do the chargers feel like they need to sign him

to another one day contract? Does he go back? So he again retires as a charger or does he call it quits as a colt, which is then a slap in the face to the chargers who has now spurned on more than one occasion? See, this is why I love having you on. Because I know you're not just going to come on here

and you're going to do some digging, you're going to do some research and you're going to find the angles that no one else is finding. Now, the Hall of Fame thing, who cares? You wait another five years. To me, not a big deal.

The Chargers thing has to be intrigued. Does he sign the one day or not the one day are? Do they offer it to him? Do they offer it? Maybe they're done with them. Exactly right. Now he's burned that. How about this?

What if the Colts play the Chargers in the playoffs, Billy? And Rivers is lighten it up and it's Rivers versus Herbert. What do you do? What do you do? Because now, like, that was, That was, look, the Colts, as a man who has been obviously faithful and loyal to his wife with 10 children and now grandchildren, Philip Rivers is a loyal man.

And the Colts were his mistress, you know, if we're going to be honest with you. The Chargers were his wife, the Colts were his mistress. And he, you know, he had that thing, that little fling on vacation. Didn't mean anything. Didn't mean anything. But he got back with his wife. I'm sorry, I still love you. But now the mistress is back.

And now it's going to be harder to explain the mistress. What are we doing here? We forgave you and we thought we were back. What's going on? I thought this was over. But we said this was over. Six months ago, you said this was over. What happened here?

I don't know. I don't like it. Amazing. All right, let's take a break. We come back. We'll finish on Rivers. And then are there any other athletes who should unretire here? We'll get into that at the end of the show.

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A.E.com or just go to the store. All right, we're back here on the Ringer NFL. So let's close this out with her. So I think we're both excited about this. We both want to see it. There is some controversy. We don't know how it's going to work, but in terms of content, it's great. We got to just, the elephant in the room, the vasectomy here.

I mean, I'm just saying, you know, I'm glad they have a, the romance is still there. They seem to have a lovely marriage, 10 kids. I mean, think about how fun Thanksgiving. will be all those kids around, you know, for years to come, big family. Do you think that's been approached? Is there any, you know, is this a way to get out of a vasectomy? Potentially. Maybe he had an appointment and he said, I can't make it anymore because the Colts just called

me. Is there any? Is that an angle here we need to explore or should we just move on? I thought that maybe like father time or mother nature would remain undefeited in a certain point, you know, his body. Yeah. Bodies would just do what bodies do and you'd have the natural. vesectomy, but I guess not.

By the way, Shiel, I did some digging, as I told you, and I found a couple of things. I found a reason why this makes sense for Philip Rivers besides getting away from his family and a potential unknown nemesis that exists in the NFL world that may be fueling this, all right? And I also, I'm going to give you a choice because I don't know if we have time for both,

but it's up to you because it's your show. The other thing, I started looking up, you know, other potential Colts legends or quarterbacks, who they could have called instead of Philip Rivers, that might make more sense. And I found what I believe to be a controversy within the Colts organization that is not being covered enough. Okay, give me the controversy. I got to know about the controversy. All right. Here's the controversy. So I started looking up, okay, what do teams do in this spot? They usually call like a familiar face or whatever, right? Obviously, they called Philip Rivers. but there's no way Philip Rivers was probably their first choice.

So you start looking around, what are the options here at quarterback, right? So here are the options that could potentially be out there with active quarterbacks. Joe Flacco. Now, Joe Flacco was just traded from the Browns to the Bengals, but he's not really needed anymore with the Bengals. So do the Bengals do the unthinkable and trade Flacco again, proving that he is one of the most valuable quarterbacks that three teams decided they needed him in a season?

and trade him back to the Colts. They could release him. They could release him. They could release him, and then he could sign with the Colts. They could do him a solid and say, you know what? Go back there.

Go back to Indy, finish your story. Not that anyone thinks there's a story of his there, but could he end up with the Colts? No, they didn't go that route. But who else is the obvious one that people want? Andrew Luck. Oh, okay, Andrew Luck or Tom Brady. Well, Tom Brady was also on the list

because Tom Brady could kind of stick it to Peyton Manning one more time and go to his. former team and have success as his former team. But I thought that you were going to say, Billy, too much shenanigans with Tom Brady. He's now an owner of the Raiders. Tom Brady would never. But the Andrew Luck question is interesting. I think that if Andrew Luck said, you know what, I want to end this the right way, not that

he did anything wrong, but it didn't end like the way that you would want it to end with the fans, right? I think the fans would embrace him. And I think that opens the door to Andrew Luck being inducted into the course. Colt's Ring of Honor. Now, here's the thing. I was shocked at the fact that Andrew Luck wasn't in the Ring of Honor. Now, he wasn't there a long time, but he was very good when he was there. So I started looking up the Colts Ring of Honor, and there's two quarterbacks in the Colts Ring of Honor. Do you know who they are? Well, Peyton Manning would be one. Payton Manning's one. And the second one would be Johnny

Unitas, I believe. The other one is Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh is in the Colts Ring of honor. Now, I compare Jim Harbaugh's time with the Colts to Andrew Luck's time with the Colt. This is a travesty, I will tell you, an absolute travesty. Andrew Luck played 86 games. Jim Harbaugh played 53. He only started 46 of those. Andrew Luck had 2,000 completions. Jim Harbaugh had 764. Completion percentage was similar, 60.8 to 60.7. And I think a combination of like postseason disappointment and the way things ended is really what's the same. keeping him out of the Hall of Fair, or the Ring of Honor there for the Colt.

And I do wonder now, and God rest his soul, but I do wonder now that, you know, Jim Ursa has passed. If maybe there was some sort of ill will there that maybe things will change, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking if he comes back and he guides these last four games of the season and somehow they stay on track and get in the playoffs,

I think all is forgiven. And they welcome back Andrew Luck, ring of honor next year. Well, you know, when I first got the message that you'll never believe who the cults are bringing in to my mind went to Andrew Luck. Immediately. I thought, wait a minute. Is he, but I think he's done. I think he's at peace.

I think the physical pain, the toll it took on his body, what it took on him mentally. You know, you've read all those stories. So I am with you. That is a good rock to uncover there because I didn't know that, that he wasn't in the ring of honor. And I don't think you need to come back for four games to get, I think, just time heals all. And eventually they'll look back on those great moments they had with Andrew Luck. And they'll say, all right, you know what? If Jim Harbaugh is in there, he belongs in there.

I'm kind of with you. I think that time has healed that. And I think that they would welcome back and be a nice thing. Can I tell you really quick here what I uncovered and what I think more people should look into and what I am continuing to look into as we move forward here? Yeah. Do you know why this whole Philip Rivers thing? makes sense to me, I started doing some digging around where it is that Philip Rivers ranks

in all-time leaders because I thought maybe Philip Rivers can come back and in a couple games here he can start jumping over some people and he can kind of increase, you know, his career stats or whatever, right? She's a milestone, perhaps. Yeah. I think that we would agree Philip Rivers is going to be a Hall of Famer one day. I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

So he doesn't need to do this. But, you know, if you can go up there and you can maybe. You're close enough. You hop one or two people here. Then why not, right? Just wait five more years. Who cares? Now, when I started looking into it,

I found something very interesting. Okay. So, Philip Rivers and the all-time passing leaders right now is about 600 yards behind Ben Rothesberger, which is doable. If he throws 150 yards a game, he'll get the 600 yards. He'll pass Ben Rothlessberger from seventh all-time

and passing yards to six all-time. in passing yards. However, that's not the interesting thing that I found when I started looking. What I found when I started digging deeper is that Philip Rivers is only 277 yards ahead of Matt Stafford. So Philip Rivers earlier this year in October was passed by Matthew Stafford in the all times completion list. That happened in October. Now he's sitting back. He's like, hold on a second. I thought I was sitting pretty. I thought I was headed to the Hall of Fame. Now this Matthew Stafford, who can't decide,

is he retiring, is he not retiring every single year, is climbing up this list? And he's already passed me in the all-time completion list. So by the end of the season, it's possible that Matthew Stafford passes Philip Rivers in two more categories, unless Philip Rivers comes back and he keeps pace with Matthew Stafford doing the exact same thing or slightly better than Matthew Stafford for the next four weeks so that Matthew Stafford at least for a year cannot pass him.

And then we'll head into the offseason. Even though we know that he signed a two-year deal in the off season, Matthew Stafford every off season, it's a will he won't he situation with retirement. And he's only, I think, 38, but it could be his last year depending on how this season plays out. So Philip Rivers could have effectively come back to juice his numbers just enough to not get passed in the short term by the only active player who is close to passing him,

who then could decide, especially if they, let's say they go on a run and they win the Super Bowl, which is entirely possible. They win the Super Bowl. He says, I'll like you. You know, I'm finishing on top. It's been a great run. Now is the time to retire. The body feels good.

And then Phillip River somewhere in I believe Fair Hope, Alabama, I might get that wrong. It's watching that speech on TV. knowing that he passed or stayed ahead of Matthew Stafford in the regular season. And he's saying, kids, gather around pizza and ice cream for everyone. We're here to celebrate. Look what Papa did. Look what Grandpa did. There you go.

I like it. Listen, Rivers comes back to avenge rivalry with Matthew Stafford. You're not getting that anywhere else. I'll tell you what, that angle on this story. His name is Billy Gill. Whenever he's on, I don't do the hurry-up because we always have too much to get to. So we don't need to do a hurry-up today. We can just end the show.

Philip Rivers returning a nice fun wrinkle to December football in the NFL. We'll see if he actually plays this weekend or if he needs some more time to ramp up. All right, thank you to Billy Gill. Thank you to Christopher Sutton for producing Kiera Givens on social and additional production supervision by Connor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopal. I'm Shiel Kapadia. We will talk to you tomorrow on the Ringgrenfell Show. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino, or 18 plus and present in D.C., Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-gambler or visit

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