The Ringer NFL Show - Predicting the Week 10 Headlines

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

Sheil and The Ringer’s own Steven Ruiz take a hard look at the weekend slate and try to surmise what major story lines will have the media buzzing after the final whistle has been blown on Week 1...0 in the NFL. (00:00) Predicting the Week 10 headlines(1:37) Kyle Shanahan is back(9:25) Saquon regains 2024 form against Packers(14:27) Hamilton, Sold Out(21:11) Patriots prove that they are for real (26:00) The Hurry Up: The Ringer 107 Great ideas start on Mac https://www.apple.com/mac/ The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit ⁠www.rg-help.com⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Sheil KapadiaGuest: Steven RuizProducer: Chris SuttonSocial: Kiera Givens and Brian WatersProduction Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm Shield Capadia. Today we are looking at the Week 10 slate. It's the usual Friday exercise. What headlines are we going to be seeing next week after these games are played? Fun games this week. Rams 49ers.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Massive Monday night matchup between the Eagles and Packers. Ravens, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, go to Minnesota to take on JJ McCarthy, Brian Flores, that Vikings defense. And then Drake May versus Baker Mayfield. that's a potential shootout in Tampa. Could be a very, very fun game. Our guest today is the Ringer's very own.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Stephen Ruiz, we will talk about all those games and more. Let's take a break. We come right back with the headlines. This is the Ringer NFL show presented by Fandul, the best place to bet the NFL all season long. Fan Dulls got it all. Same game parlies. Quick bets for jumping in live and your way
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Starting point is 00:01:45 We're going to see next week after week 10. Ruiz, you're the guest here. So go ahead. You get first pick. What's one headline we're going to read next week after this weekend's games? I didn't come up with like a clever nickname or clever headline like the New York Post would. So I feel very ashamed. It was just that Kyle Shanahan is back.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It was a quick one. Quick one. I like sometimes those are the best ones. You know, last week some other weeks were like, all right, let's go back. to the blog world, you know, what will we have been writing here? So Kyle Shanahan's back, that has my attention. I like it. It's like a very dead spin like 2016 headline.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And I would have clicked on it, you know? But here's my theory on this. And I wanted to throw Sean McVeigh in there because I feel like we've had these two like offensive play called geniuses in the same division for, what is it, going back to 2017, 2018 now. And I think we all expected them to just have these shootouts every year, right? like, oh, 30 to 30 every year. But we haven't really had that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 We've had 27 to 24 game twice in 2020, 2002, but since then, like, we haven't had a 30-point game since 2019 between these teams. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, if you go back to 2017, we got 41, 39, and 2017 between them, classic, 48 to 32, another, you know, high-scoring game, 34 to 31 in 2019. And then after that, it's really been more low-scoring affairs,
Starting point is 00:03:06 like games in the low-20s, games in the high teens, even last time they played earlier the season, I think it was 26 to 23, and they had to get to overtime to score those points. So I feel like the last four years have been these two coaches kind of, you know, they burst onto the scene when they first took over these teams, and then defense has kind of had a counterpunch for them, and they've kind of struggled to get back there. And I think this weekend, we're going to see another one of those early games
Starting point is 00:03:31 where it's 35 to 30, 49ers, Rams just lighting it up, just trading blows, Mack Jones, Matthew Stafford. And I think that because of how confident I am in the 49ers offense right now, and I'm confident in the 49ers offense right now because I think Kyle Shanahan has gotten back to his 21 personnel stuff, his two back, Kyle Eushcheck in the backfield, eye formation. And he's figured out how to run from that again. And that just opened up a world of opportunity in the play action pass game. And I expect that to be something that this Rams defense, which is very good, especially with the front,
Starting point is 00:04:04 I think it's going to be something that they struggled to handle against the race. Rams this weekend. So I can get there pretty easily with you with the Rams offense. I mean, I don't, you know, we don't need to talk for 10 minutes. It's just like kind of everything's working for them, you know, run games working. Stafford's awesome. McVeys in his bag, Pooka de Kua, assuming he's healthy and plays in this game is awesome. They figured it out with Devante Adams. So that's the Rams offense. Like I, you know, the reason I think a lot of us are so confident in the Rams as a contender is because I don't think there's a defense out there or a defensive mind out there who you're like, oh, they're just going to put them.
Starting point is 00:04:38 in a blender. Like, they've seen too much. So I'm with you there in this 49ers defense. We know is banged up with the guys they've lost. They lost Michael Williams last week after already having lost Warner and Boses. So I can get with you there. The other side is interesting what you're pointing to because I don't know that people realize the Rams right now have the best defense in the NFL in terms of EPA per play, which even I look at it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm like, huh, I knew they've been like playing well. I didn't think it was that good. And the Niners, I think it's been a pretty great kind of. Al Shanahan's season, you know, just the way they figured things out and their record despite all those injuries. But you're still confident that against this. So is it, hey, I don't know that the Rams defense is quite as good as those numbers? Or is this just a full, I feel like the 49ers offense is kind of taking off right now? I think it's a combination of both.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And I think the Rams defense, how it's built, especially like it's strong up front and you can kind of attack the back end of it. And they kind of have to play a little more soft zone coverage behind of that. that pass rush. And I think that's perfect for some of these, you know, high-powered offenses that have a quarterback leading it where, you know, the quarterback is dropping back. I'm thinking obviously Joe Burroughs not playing the season, but like that's the prototypical like quarterback-centric offense. And I think it's built to beat those teams because you put pressure on those quarterbacks to keep dropping back and dropping back and those offensive lines to keep, you know, blocking and pass protection. But the 49ers offense, I feel like they kind of were in that world last year and you
Starting point is 00:06:05 saw that in Purdy's numbers and how they kind of had to use Purdy and how he had to be like the playmaking hub for the offense. I think since they've gotten Mack Jones in the lineup, it's kind of forced Kyle's hand to figure out how to get back to that old style of offense. And I think that old style of offense is just a bad matchup for these Rams because you're not used to like a fullback starting out at the tight end spot and then quick motioning, you know, to eye formation. You've got to figure out your run fits out right before the snap. And then you have to deal with like an old school downhill running play. Like they're just not built to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Most defenses aren't because most defenses or most offenses can't operate that way. There are five teams that have over 100 snaps and 21 personnel this year. Or not 21 personnel specifically, but two backs in the backfield, those sets. Only two of them have a positive EPA out of that. The 49ers and the Seahawks. Like the Seahawks are, you know, this wagon that you can't slow down. It's supposed to pass machine. there's no way to stop.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And I think the 49ers are kind of getting to that point over the last couple of weeks. They're averaging 0.4 EPA per play action dropback out of 21 personnel. And you can see them start to get back to that more often over the last couple of weeks. Kyle, use checks, snap, load is up over the last couple of weeks. They're using him in different ways.
Starting point is 00:07:22 They're using them in the backfield as a lead blocker. So I just think it's one of those things where, one, they haven't put enough of it on tape for defenses to really be ready for it. And then two, I just don't think it's a good math. for what the Rams personnel is. So do you like the 49ers to win this game or you're just like high scoring game
Starting point is 00:07:38 could go either way type deal? See, that's the question. I think it's going to be a high scoring game. I do agree with you like the Rams. Everything is working for them. Matthew Stafford is working for them. But I do think that they gave the Rams a little bit of trouble in this first matchup.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And I do think that Robert Sala usually has a formula that takes care of these style of passing games if they do lean heavily on the dropback passing game. So it'll be interesting to see, but I think this game kind of tells you which one of those coaches is on top. And I feel like it can only be one at a time, right? Either Sean McVeigh is miserable and Kyle Stranhan is loving life or it's the opposite way around. So, you know, one of these offenses is kind of going to have a step back this weekend, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:08:20 and the other one is going to take a step forward. I think it's a bigger feather in Shanahan's cap. If he wins this and they sweep the Rams just with the injuries they've had this season, you know, I think they're six and three, but they have a plus. six point differential, but I'm not even like, oh, they're frauds because it's like, well, they've had 400 injuries. I don't, who cares, like what their point differential is. They're six and three.
Starting point is 00:08:42 So I don't take the Niners seriously as contenders because of the injuries on defense. I think they're a good team. I think they're a playoff team. The Rams I absolutely do take seriously as contenders. So, yeah, it feels like the Rams should win this game. They're four and a half point favorites. But if the 49ers win it, then maybe we rethink some of the things we thought about this division going into it.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So there you go. That'd be fun. Ram's a fun game. It's always fun. There are blowout sometimes. It's not like every game is close, but hope the first one this season was close and kind of a weird Thursday night game that went into overtime. So maybe we'll get a weird one here. Shanahan 11 and 7 against McVeigh. I did look that up earlier today. 11 and 7 against Sean McVeigh.
Starting point is 00:09:24 All right, my first headline here, Ruiz, Sequin regains 2024 form as Eagles upset Packers at Lamba. So we got a fun matchout Monday night. Eagles Packers. Eagles are six and two. Packers are five, two and one. I think these two teams are on any short list of NFC contenders. Maybe down the road, we're saying,
Starting point is 00:09:46 ooh, that game on Monday night had a big influence on who was the number one seed. I'm very curious to see this Eagles run game because it's kind of like what you said with the Niners where on the season they haven't been great, but man, they look great against the Giants. And I'm looking at the Eagles. Like on the season, they haven't been great, but a couple weeks ago against the Giants, they lit them up. So is it just that the Giants defense run defense is terrible,
Starting point is 00:10:08 which it is, or have these teams figured something out? And it's not the same conversation you had with the Niners, but some similarities where they're going to under center more. They're playing with the sixth offensive linemen more. Their tight ends were just getting wrecked in the run game. They're finally mixing in some under center play action off of it, not to a high degree. But if they do it four times a game, you're like, oh my gosh,
Starting point is 00:10:30 they've reinvented football in Philadelphia. This is unbelievable. So even just watching them on film all season long, it was always like, man, Sequin still looks really good here. It's more the blocking and the scheming that's not as good with their run game. Landon Dickerson, their all pro guard,
Starting point is 00:10:46 has gotten healthier in recent weeks. I think that's made a huge, huge difference just to have him back there in the lineup. So Packers on defense, 17th in DVOA against the run. I think the Eagles have a chance to have a really big running game on Monday night and maybe kind of control that game a little bit. Where are you with that?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Where are you with this big matchup on Monday night? Yeah, I'm with you there because I think the how they get the running game going kind of sets, I don't know if it's the floor of the ceiling for this team because I do think they need to start running the ball to obviously get back to the, get back to being a playoff contender, like one that can win the Super Bowl. If they don't have the run game, then it's hard to envision them as that. I think it was a lot easier last year when we were talking about the past game. They're like, oh, they don't have a past game.
Starting point is 00:11:30 AJ Brown was saying, like, the past game is what's wrong with the offense. But we could still envision them as, you know, winning the Super Bowl. I think they won 15 games in the regular season anyway. But, yeah, we saw, like, those baby steps the last couple of weeks. And I thought what it did was open up the middle of the field for Jalen Hertz. We saw him make, you know, he was under center. He turned his back to the defense, turned around, and then hit, like, Devante Smith on a couple inbreakers. And it has, you joked about it.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You know, the Eagles. they rediscovered football, but it has unlocked something that they haven't really had going back to 22, I would say. 100%. Yeah. And it does make that offense a lot more difficult to defend. And I think the offense of Leibond were really clamoring for something like this early in the season when they were like, it seemed like every, they were saying it without saying it. They were kind of lamenting the fact that like defenses seemed to know what was coming and they were
Starting point is 00:12:20 on a lot of stuff. And getting under center, it just has that effect on defenses where one, you don't know which way the run is going, which you do when it's shocked. unless you're going up against like an Andy Reid who does same side zone runs from the gun. And then two, the play action, it just hits harder. It just hits harder. If you look up the stats,
Starting point is 00:12:38 if you look up the splits, if you take out shotgun, the play action just hits harder. And if you are struggling to get explosives and the only source for explosives the last couple of years for the Eagles were when they got cover one, they got man coverage,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and they could just throw it up to Devante Smith or AJ Brown on the outside, I think if they are able to run the ball like this, continue to run it against a team like the Packers against another contender. I mean, I would come away from this game thinking the Eagles are the favorites to win the NFC, and I wasn't thinking that going into, I would say,
Starting point is 00:13:06 two weeks ago. Yeah, I changed my mind every two weeks. Two weeks ago, after the Packers, that performance against the Steelers, I'm like, they look like the best team. And then last week, I'm like, oh, my gosh, what are the Packers doing here? The Rams have a case for that, certainly.
Starting point is 00:13:22 The Lions have a case. So I think you see here in the AFC, right? In the AFC, he says, I go, Bill's Chiefs. Bill's Chiefs. Bill's Chiefs. I want to get your, yeah, with one of these next games, I actually want to get your sort of ranking of the AFC contenders. Because, you know, there's a couple that I think are consensus,
Starting point is 00:13:38 but after that it gets a little tricky. So let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk about one, actually two more games that deal with at least one AFC team. This episode is brought to you by Apple. Before it was Ringer NFL, it was just an idea. I started with just a mic and a Mac and the need to discuss. all things football. We thought, are we going to do a daily show? Are we going to change the logo?
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Starting point is 00:14:31 What's the next headline? All right. I'm going to the Baltimore, Minnesota game. Now, I went the other way with this headline. It might have been a reach. I might be thinking to, I don't know. It might have been reaching for the stars too much here. My headline is Hamilton, comma, sold out.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's a play on the play Hamilton and how it was hard to get tickets back in the day. You remember that was a thing? Capote is our big fan. We saw it and, you know, finally saw it in New York this year. I mean, that soundtrack has been playing through this house and these cars for years now, really, so I like it. So you like where I'm going with this. But it's about Kyle Hamilton and the way that the Ravens have kind of changed how they're using him in recent weeks and the effect that that's had on the defense. And I think this is a, I don't want to say like the perfect test or like the strongest test for a defense that had been struggling at the beginning of the year.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Is it on a bit of a hot streak over the last couple of performances against the Vikings are obviously going against J.J. McCarthy. But the Vikings did get their run game going last year or last week. and they were able to get some play action passes off of that going. And I think that's really what hurt the Ravens early on in this season. You can go back to the Lions game and see how much trouble they had in that one. But I do think they've been able to put Kyle Hamilton closer to the line of scrimmage on early downs and kind of use them as a run blitz or just a guy that they can kind of like point the cannon at a certain direction. Like, oh, does this team like to run off the left edge?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Let's point the Kyle Hamilton cannon at that and just shoot it at him. So I think they're just going to have him kind of sell out against the run, kind of get in the backfield, try to create some tackles for loss, get JJ McCarthy into obvious passing situations and then say, hey, I know he's not a rookie, but he's basically a rookie. You say, hey, rookie, beat us, like beat our coverage, our shell coverage, our shell zone coverage. And I don't know if he's going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But I think if the Ravens are able to shut down this Vikings offense, like they were able to shut down the Dolphins offense, like they were able to slow down the Rams offense. They held him to 17 points, which I thought was a big accomplishment for them and kind of the first sign that they were turning things around. But if they're able to do that against the Vikings, I'm ready to buy them as being back.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And we know Lamar's back, but I'll say the Ravens defense is back too. I don't remember anything like what Kyle Hamilton's doing. It's like an annual thing now. It's like middle of the season or after a month, hey, the Ravens defense sucks at this one thing. Okay, why don't we have Kyle Hamilton solve that? Okay. And next year it's like a different thing.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And then the next year it's a different thing. I mean, because I usually, you know, maybe we've had these conversations. I get sick of the like, oh, positionless players and versatility. And I think you sometimes feel the same way as me. It's like, all right, well, how many things can they actually do well? It's not just the guy lining up. It's always zero, too. It's always zero.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah. He is the exception. It's incredible that, you know, they just change how they use him. And it really has, now it's a smaller sample, but it seems to have you watch the game when you're like, they solved it. Like, look at this guy. He's all over the place. He's dominating.
Starting point is 00:17:20 He's in the back. He's wrecking these plays. So what a player. I really think he is a one of one. And I'm with you there. I mean, that Vikings offensive performance last week, they scheme some stuff up.
Starting point is 00:17:32 McCarthy made a play with his legs. He made a play in the end. So I don't think you watched that and we're like, this is definitely going to last. And I was actually thinking about you this week, Ruiz, because I was thinking about how like sometimes I'm in a social setting and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:47 I hate to admit this. I don't want to be judgy, but a guy walks in. like, that's probably not going to be my kind of guy. You just have a feel. You might, maybe you're wrong. Sometimes you're wrong. But I was reading a story this week about J.J. McCarthy. I don't know if you saw this or not. He says he has a game day alter ego that he calls nine. And per ESPN, here's the quote, I kind of love feeding that wolf McCarthy said, because my entire life at Michigan, there was a smiley face on my hand. And if you smile and you have fun, you're going to play better and all that,
Starting point is 00:18:19 which is true, but I also think there's a lot of power that comes from that built-up anger that you can transmute into your performance. I read that and I go, I don't think he's Ruiz's type of guy. Was that wrong? I don't want to judge, you know, but what were you thinking if you did see that story or you just heard me tell you about it? No, my first, I did kind of see the story, but I didn't hear the exact quote. My first response is, oh, brother.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Come on. Please. Enough. Can we throw for 200 yards before we start talking about altering. you guys and giving him nicknames. He named it. Nine. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Did you see the pre-game or the post-game when I think KOC might have given him a game ball and the look on his face? And I think someone tweeted out like, this guy is like a serial killer on Game Day. And yeah, that's not a good thing. That was part of the story too. Yeah, I think that was nine coming out. Oh, that was nine coming out. Yeah, that was nine coming out there.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, this is a fun game. AFC contender picture. You mentioned you're already good with Lamar. We want to see a little bit more with the. defense. But if I just asked you, give me your little stack rank at the top here, teams your most confident can get to the Super Bowl in the AFC. What do you got? Because this came up earlier in the week with the Colts trade. And I think people were a little surprised with how many teams I had ahead of them. So I don't know where you have them. But what do you
Starting point is 00:19:38 got here? I would go, I would go Kansas City just by default. Like, I don't think they're actual best team. Like if you, if I was, you were asking me in a vacuum and I had never seen the Chiefs played football before in January. I never seen the Ravens and bills play in January. I think I would have the bills first. I'd be buying low on the Ravens and put them second and then put the Chiefs third, just based on total team talent and where the direction I think the team is, and their ceiling for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:20:04 From there, I'm, oh, man, I think I might take the Colts, but I might go with the Patriots instead. The only thing with the Patriots is that defense has not been tested at all. They played a bunch of bad offenses. and I think that's going to kind of set the ceiling for them. I think the floor is set very high with Drake May and how he's playing. But until I see that defense tested, it's kind of hard for me to buy them in the playoffs. So I kind of defaulted to the Colts there.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I do think this offense is legit. And I think it's built around just having a strong offensive line in a run game that forces defenses to do certain things. It limits what they can do against the pass. And that makes Danny Jones's job easier. I just called Danny Jones. I don't think I've ever heard of 13%. That was a debut and I liked it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah, I'm with you. I had the Ravens also ahead of the Colts and I think that surprises people because of their record. But if you just ask me, whom I'm more confident in, I have the Ravens. And I think Colts and Patriots are in a similar tier here, which is a good segue to my next headline,
Starting point is 00:21:07 which is that maybe I'll be wrong. But my headline is Patriots prove that they're real with win in Tampa. So the Patriot schedule has been a joke. I mean, if you look at it, The betting markets, that site imperticable, has strength the schedule with the betting markets. It's been the easiest in the NFL. If you look at it by DVOA on FTN, it has been the easiest in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And what's interesting here, Ruiz, is that DVOA, which accounts for schedule strength, does not trust the Patriots. It has them all the way down at 14th, the 14th overall team in the NFL. And I like looking at that. I take that seriously, but I kind of think they're pretty good. You know, they beat the bills. And I always lean towards, do I trust your offense? And I think I do trust their offense. But there are a couple metrics here that may be thinking, am I going too far with the eye test?
Starting point is 00:21:58 And one of them is they can't really run the ball efficiently. They're 24th in rushing success rate, 27th in rushing DVOA. And then just the O line, the protection, and Drake May taking sacks. He's being sacked on 12% of his dropbacks, which is the second highest rate in the NFL. I mean, a higher rate than guys like Cam Ward and Justin Fields out there. So I look at that. I think this is a very good test because I think the Bucks defense is sort of flown under the radar. They've been playing really, really well. Any of the numbers you want to look at, they've been, you know, top five, top eight this year. And so I think we're going to find out
Starting point is 00:22:35 one way or the other. Like, I think if the Bucks smoke them here, you're going, all right, Patriots did not have that hard of a schedule. They're still a playoff team, but, you know, that has to be a factor. I think if the Patriots can win this game and it's like you one on the road against the bucks, you beat the bills, like let's start taking them a little bit more seriously. So I'm leaning towards the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Ken, show us that. Where are you with this game? No, I think that is that type of game. And I think a Todd Bulls defense, I think I was saying this during Cori Week when we were together in L.A. A couple weeks ago, like Todd Bowles against a bad offense just cooks.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like, it looks suffocating. It looks like you're like, how can anybody score on this team ever? And then when he goes up against, like, a good, solid offense that's solidly built and built around a good foundation, like a good quarterback like Drake May,
Starting point is 00:23:22 he usually gets torn up. So I think this is one of those games where you're either going to see an ugly Patriots performance from the offense or a beautiful performance from the offense. And that's going to decide how high I am on this team going into the playoffs. But I also think
Starting point is 00:23:37 you could say the same thing about the defense going up against this bucks. I know you brought up the pads, you know, run game woes, but the bucks are right there with them. Yeah, neither team can run the Yeah, the bucks are even worse. I think they're 27th than EPA per run. They're 30th in success rate. And then their issue is their passing game is very relying on explosives.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And those Baker-Mayfield scrambles that seem like they last for 10 seconds and those tight window throws down field where either Baker's putting it right on the money in between two defenders or one of those receivers is making a crazy catch. But their past success rate is near the bottom of the league. And I know there was a lot of like Baker-Mayfield hysteria and MVP talk. but you look at his stats and they're kind of middle of the pack right now it kind of feels like the Sam Darnold situation and the Viking situation last year where you were like, whoa, look at all these explosive plays
Starting point is 00:24:24 and they're putting up numbers and volume stats, but then you look at the efficiency numbers and it's like, oh, they're like barely better than mediocre. And so I do think this is one of those games where the perception of the bucks is a little higher than it should be, which works to the Patriots favor. They beat the bucks and they beat them comfortably. I think a lot of people around the country and around the league are going to be like,
Starting point is 00:24:47 whoa, they're way better than I thought. And I don't think the win is going to signify that as much as maybe it would if they were going up against a team like the Lions, for instance. Yeah. Yeah, they just, and then you look at their games ahead. And it's like you're not going to learn that much about the Patriots in those games. There's just some bad teams ahead. It's not like their schedule gets a lot harder. But I love your call on the Bucks offense.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I mean, I think it probably, we have this vision of them from the first, whatever month, first few weeks of the season. Neither team should be able to run the ball. So I feel like these quarterbacks are just going to be firing downfield and which team can limit those explosive plays. This could be a really, really fun game. Over under on picks for this game. I'm going to set it at two and a half. Total, total, total.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I'll go under. I think we get one for each. You think we get more? I think we're getting two from Baker and one from Trace. Okay. I like that. Two and a half. Another number to keep an eye on as you watch this game.
Starting point is 00:25:41 All right. His name is Stephen Ruiz. by the way, revamped, beautiful, refreshed quarterback rankings on the ringer.com. Check those out. Ruiz put a lot of work into those this week. Again, brand new updates there. So be sure to check that out. I will be right back with the hurry up. All right. Today's ringer 107 is brought to you by Fandul. I'm still in last place. It's not pretty. I'm having the year from hell, just like the commanders. But you know what? There's a lot of football left. I am not giving up. I'm only five games back.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Everyone's doing pretty terribly. So I still got a shot at this thing. Let's get to it. First pick, Ravens minus four and a half at Minnesota. We talked about this game earlier. Ravens are one of the healthiest teams in the NFL right now. Every game is basically a playoff game for them. They figured some things out defensively.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Lamar Jackson looked good in his return last week. So give me the Ravens minus four and a half. Second pick, Seahawks minus six and a half against the Cardinals. People are a little excited about this Cardinals. team after that win against Dallas. I'm not one of those people. It's Jacoby Brissette against maybe the best defense in the NFL. I don't trust Arizona there. Cardinals defense has had its moments, played well against Dak, but I don't think that's a great unit either. Seattle wins comfortably here. All right, third pick. Give me the Eagles
Starting point is 00:27:03 plus two and a half at Green Bay. This is another game we talked about earlier. I think it's a big Sequin Barkley game. You look at the Eagles. They're 22 and four the last two years. is when Jalen Hertz starts and finishes a game. So if they're healthy and if I'm getting points, I'm just going to take it and hope for the best. I think these are two evenly matched teams. I think it's a toss-up game, but I'll take the Eagles with the points there.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Fourth pick, I can't believe I'm doing this. But give me the Jets plus two and a half against the Browns. Here's the deal. I'm doing a little game theory here. I'm in last place, so I should be picking games I think other, my competitors are not going to be picking. And why would they pick the Jets?
Starting point is 00:27:44 the jet stink. But you know what? The brown stink too. They got the worst offense in the NFL. So I'm getting points at home against the worst offense in the NFL. It's going to be bad weather. It's going to be low scoring. Everyone thinks the Jets have no chance because of the trades they made earlier this week. I'm not one of those people. Let's go. JETS. Jets. All right. Jets plus two and a half. All right. Last pick here, Texans plus one and a half. If you're wondering if the Ringer 107 contest has broken me. This is pretty good evidence that it has. I'm taking Davis Mills. But you know what? That Jaguar's team just does so much stupid stuff. So Jaguars team do stupid stuff. Texans defense, come out, put them in a blender. Let's get a defensive touchdown. Let's get a special team's
Starting point is 00:28:31 touchdown. You're at home. Come on, Houston. Do something for me here, plus one and a half. All right. Today's Ringer 107 was brought to you by Fandulh, odds subject to change. Thanks to everybody for listening. Another fun week here. Appreciate all the guests who joined me. Thank you to Christopher Sutton for producing Kira Givens on social, additional production supervision by Connor and Evans and Arjuna Ram Gapal. I'll be back Monday morning breaking down the biggest
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