The Ringer NFL Show - Predicting the Week 12 Headlines With Domonique Foxworth

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

Sheil and Domonique Foxworth from ESPN get together to take a hard look at some of the biggest matchups on this weekend’s slate and use their expertise to determine what headlines will emerge after the final whistle has been blown on Week 12 in the NFL. (00:00) Predicting the Week 12 headlines(1:44) Colts vs. Chiefs(8:20) Eagles vs. Cowboys(17:56) Bucs vs. Rams(25:58) The Hurry Up: The Ringer 107 This episode is sponsored by State Farm®️. Don’t settle for just any insurance when there’s State Farm. https://www.statefarm.com/lp/trainer The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit ⁠www.rg-help.com⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Sheil KapadiaGuest: Domonique FoxworthProducer: Chris SuttonSocial: Kiera Givens and Brian WatersProduction Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm Shield Capadia. Today we're looking at the week 12 slate. We're predicting headlines we might read next week. And our guest is ESPN's Dominique Foxworth. You can listen and watch him on the Dominique Foxworth show along with other ESPN programming. I'm giving him two headlines for each game. So we're switching it up a bit.

I'm going to give him two headlines for each game. And he's going to tell me which seems more likely. He was fantastic on these games. games. We talked about the media narratives in Philadelphia with Jalen Hertz. We talked about defending the Rams three tight-end sets, Xs and O's, all kinds of stuff. He was great on all of it. And then, of course, we finish with the Ringer 107. All right, let's take a break. We come right back with Dominique Foxworth. This is the Ringer NFL show presented by Fandul, the best place to bet the NFL all season long. Fan Dulls got it all. Same game parlays. Quick.

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Dominique, thank you so much for joining us today, man. No problem. Happy to do it. Thanks for making it work for me. Absolutely. So we got these games coming up week 12. I've come up with some headlines. We're switching it up this week.

We're going to play a little game. I'm going to give you two headlines. And you're going to tell me which one you think is more likely. And then we can talk about the games as we go through it. So let's start with the Colts. at the Chiefs. Headline one, Chiefs on the ropes searching for answers

after third straight loss. So that's headline one. Headline two, Colts look like pretenders after uninspiring loss to KC. So which way are you leaning here? Is this oh man, panic mode for the

chiefs they lost again? Or is this say, all right, Colts, settle down. You weren't kind of ready for the state. This is tough because the few times when I have enough courage to like pick against the Chiefs, I have been wrong. And then when I lean in on the Chiefs,

I end up still being wrong. But I think that we all, the problem with looking at this particular game is we all recognize the Colts are better and have been better all year long. But we also recognize that Patrick Burr-Holmes is still there. And it's not as if there's a big glaring weakness.

Like I felt more confident as stupid as this sounds. I felt more confident. confident picking against the Chiefs last year than I do picking against them this year. When I know that they won all those games last year, but last year there was a clear, like, obvious issues that could not be solved with their weapons. Right now, it's like occasionally their O-Line will play, or not even occasionally, their O-Line will protect Bahams, the receivers that have a breakout game.

Like last week against the Broncos, protection was the problem. It's the best past Russian football. And protection was the problem. There were people open. And what happened last week was they can't really run the ball. They don't really want to run the ball. And Mahomes was missing open people because they were taking the middle safety out of middle field. There were big plays there to be made.

So if you're asking me to believe that the reason why this team is going to continue to lose is because Patrick Mahomes isn't playing well, and that's hard for me to buy. I'm not going to beat around the bush. I'm going to pick a headline. Do I go with my head or my heart? I think I'm going to go with my heart and say that we go with, the first one was when the chiefs, figured it out. No, first one, Chiefs are on the ropes.

Yeah, okay. Second one, Chiefs win. Yeah, I think we go second one with the Chiefs win. I forgot the exact headline. I'm not playing this game, right. They're not that memorable, Dominique. You know what I'm saying? They were perfect, though.

The problem is we don't read anymore. Like, a headline, I think a headline is only something that all people like me actually knows what it is. Like, podcast episode title might bring it into the current times because no one's reading anything. You know what? You just improved this gimmick next week on the Ringer NFL show. Podcasts, more likely podcast title. I like that. That's a lot better because you're right. No one's reading anyway. I'm not writing it anymore that much anyway, so I'm not that good at this. But yeah, I love the point about the Chiefs Corners. I mean, the Colts Corners, this is our chance to get a look.

This is why they traded for Sauce Gardner, Sauce Gardner, Charverius Ward. Kenny Moore, like on paper, you're saying, man, those guys can lock some teams up and let's see, this Chiefs offense statistically has been very good. But you kind of watch them and you're like, all right, they don't look like a dominant team. So I'm with you with last week. Like I heard you say that with me and at times. And then I was rewatching that game.

And I was like, yeah, Dominique was right. Like Mahomes has time here. He's holding onto the ball. He's scrambling. And you just assume like guys, you know, are not open or he's missing throws when he does that. So I think that's the big matchup here, kind of Chiefs passing game. Because like you said, we know they're not going to be leaning on.

on the run versus these Colts corners. Yeah. So which headline are you going to choose or is that not part of it? You don't actually put yourself to the fire. Yeah, I like that. I'm going headline too. So I've been on this thing where I'm like, I'm not giving up on the chiefs. I still said if I had to pick one team to get to the Super Bowl and the AFC, I'm still going

with the Chiefs, even though they wouldn't make the playoffs right now. And I'm so with you with the comparison to last year. Last year I was going the opposite. They're kind of fraudulent. They're winning all these fluky games. but I see them this year and I'm like, I made the point that if this year's team played last year's team this weekend, I think I would still pick this year's team.

Is that crazy? No, it's not crazy. I think you are now on the same page. And they've had a little luck go to opposite way this year where they had it all work out in their favor of last year. But I also don't think this Colts, we'll see how good this Colts defense actually is. That is not the strength of their team. The strength of their team is Johns and Taylor.

And I think it also, like, to talk about the Colts, and not talk about Daniel Jones feels a little bit unfair. I think the Chiefs are going to be in the game late. And I think that's part of it also. You're asking me to pick Daniel Jones late in a game. Or I guess Jonathan Taylor, he ran them to a win. I guess it was in overtime, so it wasn't time constraints on it that much. But you're asking me to pick Daniel Jones versus Patrick Mahomes in a tight game.

And that's really hard for me to do, man. Yeah, I've tried not to be like a full, you know, settle down a little bit on the Colts guy. I mean, I have been that guy, but, you know, seven turnovers, 12 sacks in his last two games, Daniel Jones and Justin. Now, I said this, a lot of what I'm saying now, I said last week before the Chiefs played the Broncos,

I'm like, they need this game. They're a good team, and they still lost, but I'm going to say it again, until they're mathematically eliminated. I'm going to keep saying it. I picked the Colts preseason to be a real Super Bowl contender. Like, it was my big thing. I was excited when they're ripping off.

They're going to win their division easily. They have all the weapons. All they need is like a functional quarterback, and they have a functional quarterback. We've seen them do it. They're going to be so good. I thought their defense would be better than it's been so far. And so, like, I was living on that on get up every morning all season.

And right now I'm getting nervous. It's getting hot and I'm getting nervous. I should switch to my cult. It's so fun when you have the preseason take that hits, you know, because there are many where you're like, oh, God, I hope no one remembers what I said. When you get one that hits, especially like that, That's going out on a limb.

So, yeah, you know. It's like one for every five. You know how it works? Listen, that's good, but you just forget about the other four. You know what I'm saying? That's all. So, all right. Let's get to the next game here.

Eagles at Cowboys, headline one, frustrations grow as Eagles' offense hits rock bottom and loss to Cowboys. That's headline number one. Headline two, get right game for Eagles as offense explodes. in-win at Dallas. So how are you? This little temperature check, Dominique, on this Eagles offense that has looked horrible,

going up against a Cowboys defense that has not played well, but now has new pieces. So maybe there are a new defense here in the second half of the season. How are we feeling about this one? Yeah, I was on two until I got to the word explodes. I think if the Eagles win, it's going to be a result of their defense, which it's just been out of this world up into this point. I understand when you get down to,

Adori Jackson and potential man-covered situations with George Pickens or C.D. Lamb that doesn't make you feel confident, but it doesn't matter if your quarterback's running for his life. And I think the Cowboys have an offensive line that can hold up. But the way that Eagles defense in fronts to play the last few weeks, I would say that they're not the best defense in football over a body of work, but no one's played better in these recent weeks. And if they can keep playing, like, I would say that they're not the best defense in football over a body of work, but no one's played better in these recent weeks. And if they can keep playing like that, I think they find a way to win this game. But I got to be honest with you. I know you're an Eagles guy. But it'd be so much fun if the Cowboys won. It would give us so many more weeks of content and interest if the Cowboys could make this division slightly interesting

because if they don't, both them in the Chiefs. Because they play each other Thanksgiving, right, after that. Right. Yeah. So they need to keep it interested. I'm with you, I'm actually team content. My daughter even got me the T-shirt, custom-made last year, you know, for the birthday, team content. So I want what's good for us, you know?

My wife's the only one who believes me is whether the Eagles win or lose, like, I'm the same guy. I just need something good. Let's get something juicy to talk about here. You mentioned Adory Jackson, and it's like this Eagles defense is playing awesome. That's obviously the one spot where you have questions about that outside corner spot. Like, just from a coaching perspective with Vic Vanjohn, a game like this where you're facing two, excellent wide receivers. How much can the coordinator do schematically, whether it's putting the safety over the top on that side or having Quinnian Mitchell play the boundary versus the field?

Like those types of things, is it like, yeah, there's stuff he can do. But at some point, it's going to be, you know, third and seven and Adori Jackson is going to have to make a play, or do you think those schematic tweaks can really make a big difference? Yeah, and I think the tweaks can make a big difference. But the problem with the tweaks, that they know that the tweaks have to come. And you can't do it every time because you're going to put to, as good as Quignon Mitchell is, there's no corner in this league that I think can play

man-coverage a whole game against a really good quarterback and a really good receiver. If they were possible, they would change the rules to make it impossible. It's like they will not allow it to happen. So like, that's a lot to ask, especially against a top-tier receiver, no matter who they put Quinyon on, whether C.D. or George Pickens, those guys are.

incredible. So the benefit, I guess, of having, if your weak spot is a corner, is there are things that you can do, the best thing you can do is win up front. If DAC is throwing off its back foot, if DAC is sacks, if DAC is just terrified because that line can't hold up at all, that makes coverage in the back end a lot easier. But if you want to do something to help them, I think the Eagles have trended towards away from like the cover four base to more man coverage. And I think that's been important. But in certain things, situations, they shift back to a lot more zone. And so I think it depends on how well Adori Jackson holds up if they have to ship to more zone. And I hate to say it, but like, Dak will eat that

zone alive. He is his accuracy down the middle of the seams, like, I think that's what he wants. So they can keep tight man coverage that gives more time for the rush to get home. So I think that's what we're going to be looking for is how much time can they buy in man coverage and how much, How many reps can they buy leaning help away from everyone else in order to help Adori Jackson? I think disguising it helps and mixing it up. I hate to go back to the last game, but I think that's what helped a lot with Patrick Mahomes is they would double two receivers on most of the third down. So the Broncos would go and double Kelsey and Worthy sometimes.

And then they would do it for a couple snaps. And so then I would assume that Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, like, all right, they're going to double them. we're going to go find rice. And then surprisingly, the next step, they got rice doubled. And it was slow down this processing. So I think that's like a blueprint to use is like just keep it mixed up. And your defense is so good and so flexible and smart that they're capable of doing it. You don't have linebackers that you need to protect, which most teams have linebackers that they need to protect in the passing game.

Like this defense is a pretty close to perfect modern NFL defense and is flexible and can do a bunch of things. Yeah, I do love that the great coordinators, it feels like they do have those change-ups in those high-leverage moments, even last week in that Eagles game, I think, was a fourth down for the Lions. And the Eagles played their only snap of dime all game, bringing Michael Carter on the field and playing man coverage where they were zoned for most of that game. And it's just like those little different things where you create some uncertainty with the offense.

I love when you can catch some of those with the veteran defensive coordinators. I did want to ask you one, because you did a great interview on the press box with our friends here at the ringer. And so I wanted to just like a media question because on the offensive side of the ball right now, I am in Philly and in Philadelphia there are these reports. So, you know, sources inside the building are saying Jalen Hertz is doing X, Y, and Z. There's frustrations about him leaving plays on the field. As a former player, like how were there times where, you know, you wondered, all right, who's saying that? Are those conversations? is it like I know who's saying that?

Because I remember I covered the Seahawks and like KJ Wright was a guy who was very curious about how kind of the sausage was made. So I remember even when there was like a contract thing, he would be like, so who's doing? And I'm like, well, sometimes it's the agent has a relationship with the insider. But I was wondering from your perspective,

what's that like for the players when those reports start surfacing? Yeah, I mean, I think that most of it doesn't happen that often. And I think it happens when you're a team like the Eagles and when you have interesting people in this situation. So like fortunately, I was rarely that, I mean, I guess fortunately is the wrong word,

but I was rarely that high profile of player to be one of the people caught up in that. But the thing about most teams is the issues before they get to the media, they've already been said. That's the thing about football is the, it's pretty obvious. We have meetings and the whole team is in there

and you know what's wrong. And first of all, you know when you messed up before anyone else can tell you. And most of the time, everyone gives you like the pat on the back platitude, like you'll get them the next time type of thing. But if there's a bunch of next times and you don't get it right, somebody's going to pull you up in your face.

So ultimately, it's never really a concern of who's saying it. We never get past like, how do we fix it? I think the part that makes this kind of interesting is there seems to be at least a segment of the media that wants to argue that it's not broken. with Philadelphia, which I understand it's not broken

because they keep winning, but it doesn't seem like anyone on the team actually believes that. No one is coming out in defense of how it's operating. Like we in the media occasion, but they're winning, they're being smart,

they're not taking risk. But none of them are saying, like, this is how it's designed, this is how we want it to work. And the people who are actually close to it. So my guess is, whoever has something to say about how the offense is working,

has already said it. And the fact that it's getting out doesn't feel any type of way. Like I never remember being on a team where like frustrations with ability. Like I played opposite Champ Bailey in Denver. Yeah, there was a couple games where I didn't play so well.

I wasn't worried about who leaked to the media that I didn't play well because I didn't play well. Like, I knew it. So that's that, yeah, I don't, I doubt that any of the guys on the team really care that much where it's coming from. Yeah, the things that are being said, I mean, AJ Brown has said it publicly, you know, to the media, and you can see it on film and you can see it in the numbers.

You're right. There's not a or of like, hey, we're fine. We're waiting to from the team. They're like, no, like this needs to get better because we're trying to get back to the Super Bowl here. All right. So for the headline, all right. So you said you like the second one, but you're not going with explodes, but you think maybe the Eagles. You know what? I think if I had to pick what's more likely the Eagles offense explodes or hits rock bottom, I actually think I would pick headline one. That frustrations grow. I need to see it. I need to see it. it before I believe that they fix things with this offense. So I'm going to go with headline one on that one. All right, let's take a break. We come back. We got another game to get to. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Having insurance isn't the same as having State Farm. It's like needing the protection of an offensive guard on the football field, but getting an elementary school crossing guard. Sure, they're both guards, but you can only

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with upset win at SoFi. So we got Baker, we got Stafford, Rams are I think six and a half point favorites in this game, how are you feeling about this matchup? Yeah, this is the easiest one you've given me so far. I'm going with number one. Of course, I could be wrong. Things could go the other way.

But I think another offensive storyline of the season is like the heavy personnel stuff that the Rams are doing. It's getting a lot more attention. But the trick to the heavy personnel stuff is that you are creating an advantage in the passing game by forcing the opponent to stay in base. And teams have been really effective, if particularly the Rams are the standout team

that's using 13 personnel, three tight ends, to attack through the air, not through the run, because the base defense is like less multiple. You can't do fewer things. And it challenges the defense less. And the linebackers that you've left in the game are less comfortable in coverage than if you go to some sort of sub-package,

which would be nickel or dime or some added defensive back. And I don't, there are certain teams, so the Seahawks did a great job against the Rams. in part because they don't need the substitute. They have athletes that are physical enough to play against the run and versatile enough to play against the past. And they can still do all their games up front with those guys.

That's not something that the Bucks do. They are going to go ahead and stay in base and open themselves up to the past game threat from the Rams. So one of the issues is Tyler Higby, who's like their best blocking Titan is injured and probably not going to play in this game. So that slows down the Rams possibility, but the Rams fortunately have Pooka Nakua,

who is kind of like a tight-in but faster. Like he's a very physical receiver and incredibly good route runner also. So he creates matchup problems for them there too. The problem with the Buc's offense is their offense had been thriving a lot early in a year on Baker's athleticism and him running and making things happen in tough situations. He did it again last week,

but he hadn't been doing it since, that gap in the middle where they fell off and they were dealing with a bunch of injuries. So I don't feel as confident in this Bucks team that got off to an early start of a lot of, we talk about those one-score games, a lot of last second victories that I think were fun and cool

and we had Baker MVP talks, but I don't think they're as good as the Rams and the Rams coming off going against the Seahawks, I think, bounced back to the offensive form that we expect. Yeah, the Bucks, it felt like were September, October champs, and now it's like no one is, the bucks don't get a mention anywhere in the conversation. I wanted to follow up.

The 13 personnel thing, this has been like, you know, a lot of people talking about it the last few weeks. The nerds like me are like, well, why don't you just do it with the Seahawks? And like, obviously, you want to limit the explosive plays. And if they run for five yards of carry, make them do that on an 80-yard drive and see if they can do it the whole time. I know, you know, having talked to coaches before that they don't always think that way, is it just like a, like, like, why wouldn't Todd Bowles watch that from last

week and be like, oh, of course. Like that's the, I would rather lose, you know, if we're going to lose, I'd rather lose this way than that way. Is it just a mindset thing? Is it, well, we don't just don't have the bodies to play that way? Like, is it a stubbornness? How do you kind of view that? I think what you're asking is why not play in a nickel package and be softer against the run? Correct. Right. So because when in practice, five yards of carry, I mean, in theory, five yards to carry or four yards of carry or three yards of carry is actually three yards of carry in theory. But in practice, what it actually normally is is two, two, one, ten. Or you end up five years to carry someone to hit you for a 30 or 50. Because while we talk about the linebackers

being uncomfortable in coverage, the secondary guys are just as uncomfortable in the run game. And it's not even about size and physicality, because you could have someone who does that. It's about what happens when you change the picture on him? So there might be a linebacker who's quick and fast and athletic enough to play in coverage. But he's not accustomed to the eye manipulation that you might get from a quarterback or accustomed to the route combinations

that you're going to see back there. So he's just a hair slower. The same thing can happen in the run game where if I'm a linebacker, I know this is my gap. If they shift and change formation, then my gap moves here. If they shift change formation and then pull, my gap is now over.

over there. If they ship, change, probation, pull. One of our guys is out of position. They play fake the other way and they do a jet sweep. My gap is now over there. That happens quick for a lineback who does that every day all the time. You put a nickel in there. I played nickel. It's a lot different. You're not used to seeing all that stuff. And so what will happen is they'll run one right at you. That's normal and you'll tackle it for a two-yard gain and it's fine. They'll do that a couple times. And then they'll do one of these things and you'll get out of your gap. And the problem with getting out of your gap is those. turn into big plays. And so if you're going to get big plays, this kind of goes back to the Eagles conversation is what made the Eagles so deadly last year is like you need explosive plays to win. But most of the time, explosive plays are like low probability plays.

You have to throw the ball that opens you up to interceptions and it's also when you throw it deep down field, it's less likely to be completed. Last year, the Eagles were getting 50 and 60-yard plays with no risk by handing it off. So that's the thing. It's like, all right, I know for you to score on average, you're going to have to get a chunk play on this drive.

I'm going to make you put it in the air because if you put in the air, I could get a sack. Bad things could happen for you. If you get a chunk play from a handoff, we got to punch it out. We all heard peanut punching, getting stiff arm to the ground. Nah, I mean, I guess that's the theory I would come with if I were a coordinator in this situation. I love that. That's a great explanation. Yeah, you're not, so your explanation makes it clear.

you're not choosing between explosive passes versus methodical runs. It's between explosive passes versus explosive runs, whereas maybe there's more likely chance for an offensive fail on the explosive passes. And even in that game, Rams, you know, the Seahawks played it that way, but the Rams did break a couple in the first half there. You know, they broke a couple 30-plus-yard runs. Even if, so you still have the benefit of if they run the ball and do, like what you would consider success, like they get three or four,

yards. Then we're looking at second and six, which if they throw the ball and it's incomplete, we're at second and ten, we won. We're in great shape. Second and six, play action down. They could run it again, get us to third and three. It's just, it still doesn't feel as good as getting, it's just like a kind of raise the variance when you put the ball in the air, which I think is better off for the defense. I love that. Yeah, it's an ongoing story with the Seahawks with their, you know, play action on early downs too and the way they're creating, the Rams, the 13 personnel. It's been a big story of the season.

We'll see how Todd Bowles and the bucks do against that one. I'm with you. If I had to pick one, I'm picking the Stafford and the Rams have a big game there against Tampa. All right. His name is Dominique Foxworth. This was awesome. A pleasure to have you on.

Dominique, everyone can check out the Dominique Foxworth show. Thank you so much, man. This was fun. Appreciate it. You got to come on the show at some point. Anytime. You got to go home at home. Anytime.

Always open for a home. home and home. All right. Thank you. All right. I'll be right back with the hurry up. Today's Ringer 107 is brought to you by Fandul, another winning week last week. I'm suddenly just one game out of first place. Everyone else is tied. One game ahead of me, right back in this thing. All right, let's get to the picks. Chiefs minus three and a half versus the Colts. That's my first pick. If you listen to the show every day, if you listen to what we talked about earlier, you know I am still a Chiefs. believer. Maybe Jonathan Taylor runs all over them. I could see that. Maybe Indy's

cornerback trio locks down these Chiefs wide receivers. But I've just seen Andy Reed dig out out of these holes before. I still believe in Patrick Holmes. I think their offensive line is going to be fine and hold up in this matchup. And defensively, just force a turnover or two on Daniel Jones. So I'm taking the Chiefs minus three and a half with my first pick. Second pick, Packers, minus six and a half against the Vikings. I'm not trying to pile on. on J.J. McCarthy, but listen, statistically, he's been the worst quarterback in the NFL. The Packers don't give up explosive plays, so Minnesota's going to kind of have to be methodical. I just don't think they can do that.

So maybe Brian Flores comes up with a great game plan to stifle the Packers' offense. That wouldn't necessarily be shocking, but I am comfortable with this number minus six and a half. All right, next one, this might surprise you. Cardinals plus two and a half against the Jaguars. Let's just call this like, hey, let's get crazy, contrarian pick. It's basically I don't trust the Jaguars as road favorites. That's the pick here. Jacoby Berset has been competent enough for the Cardinals.

Arizona's coming off a blowout loss. Jacksonville's coming off a blowout win. Again, I just don't trust Jacksonville. Maybe it'll look dumb, but I'm going with it. Give me the Cardinals plus two and a half. Monday night, I'm taking the Panthers plus seven at the 49ers. this 49ers defense is just not good right now. You know, with all those injuries,

they're 28th in EPA per drive, their 29th in success rate. I was really impressed with Bryce Young last week against the Falcons. I know he has games like that, and they don't always look like that. So maybe he comes back down to earth, but I think Carolina is going to be able to run the ball. 49ers offense versus Panthers defense.

Yes, that scares me a little bit. I just think the number is a little bit too high here. So give me the Panthers plus seven. And then finally, the Detroit Lions minus 10 and a half against the New York Giants. I actually thought the Lions played pretty well last week at Philly, specifically defensively. Their defensive coordinator, Kelvin Shepard, has done a great job.

They just lost all those high leverage downs on offense. And so it's not necessarily going to happen again. I think they'll be able to run the ball on the Giants. They're at home. You don't have to worry about the weather conditions affecting Jared Gough. So I like Detroit big in that game minus 10 and a half. Against the Giants. All right,

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