The Ringer NFL Show - Predicting the Week 17 Headlines

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

Sheil and The Ringer’s own Diante Lee get together to analyze some of the biggest matchups from the Week 17 slate to determine what story lines will have the NFL media buzzing on Monday morning. (00:00) Predicting the Week 17 headlines(1:19) Eagles-Bills(6:36) Texans-Chargers(13:39) Ravens-Packers(22:11) Bears-49ers(27:07) The Ringer 107 The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.rg-help.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Sheil KapadiaGuest: Diante LeeProducer: Chris SuttonSocial: Kiera Givens and Brian WatersProduction Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm Shield Capadia. Today we are predicting headlines for the week 17 matchups. We've got Bill Ziegles. We've got Texans Chargers. We've got Bears 49ers. And we've got Ravens Packers. Those are the four games.

We will be talking about my guest today is the ringers. Deontay Lee. We will predict what we think is going to happen in those games and break down the matchups. Let's take a break. We come back with Deontay. This episode of The Ringer NFL show is presented by State Farm. Having insurance isn't the same as having State Farm. It's like expecting the leadership of a team captain on the football field, but getting a C captain? Sure, they're both captains, but who is going to run your offense? You wouldn't settle for just anything for your team, so don't settle for just any insurance.

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matchups. Deonti, you are first up with Eagles, Bill's. Eagles go to Buffalo. Sunday late window. Bills are favored in this football game. What do you got for us? I think the headline I'm rolling with is finally Philadelphia. Eagles find an offensive rhythm beat Buffalo and a big win. Oh, interesting.

Okay. All right. What does this offensive rhythm look like, Deonti? I think that this is, and I kind of wrote about this a little bit on the power rankings, right? I think that one of the things that has given me a lot of pause when we talk about Philadelphia and their opportunity to contend this year is that they do look like the 2024 version of themselves against bad teams, right? Against bad defenses, they're typically able to establish what they want in terms of early

down running, easy open throws out on the perimeter, and they're able to really kind of manage the possessions game, the turnover battle, et cetera, et cetera. I think that if there is a good team with the defense that's vulnerable enough to do that against, it would be Buffalo's, right? And this has been a season-long issue for Buffalo. I think the part of this is personnel. They've been banged up at different points. They don't have the best versions of themselves all the time in terms of their front seven. And they've played a lot of lighter bodies as a response. You're seeing and playing die more often. You see them play all these soft zone shells

that are very easy to run into. And I think that Miami was able to get after them a little bit. Honestly, New England has been able to get after them in both of their games in the same fashion. I think that if you're Philadelphia, you've got to come in thinking whether we're in spread, whether we're under center, whether we've got a sixth offensive lineman,

whether it's 12 personnel, Sequan Barkley and Tank Bigsby should be able to lead the way on the ground. And that's kind of what I expect to happen if Philadelphia is going to win. Yeah, I think we've been waiting all year. Can the Eagles get their run game going? Like, it's been obvious from week one.

They're like, we're going to be a running team. And they haven't been a running team, a good running team all season long. And then last week, I mean, it was one game, but Sequin Barclay was like doing some stuff on his own where you were like, ooh, this does look like last season. He had those monster runs in the fourth quarter against the commanders. And to your point, this bill's defense, man, 30th in rushing success rate. 31st in DVOA against the run. You can just, it doesn't, we don't have to dig too deep to figure out how the Eagles

will want to play this game, how they will want to attack that defense. And I'm curious to see if they're able to do that or not. So yeah, I think that that's absolutely the key to this game is the Eagles run game. And the under center spread stuff, I feel like they just kind of changed their mind week to week. How do you look at that? Because a few weeks ago, it's like, oh, maybe they found something. Eagles are going under center.

some play action. And then last week, they're like, oh, we're just going to be shotgun, spread, empty, which Jalen Hertz has been really good at

this season. Do you feel like they're just saying, hey, depending on the opponent, the week, we might lean into one, we might lead into the other, or is this more,

hey, we're searching for an identity and I know it's week 17, but we're not quite sure yet. It's a combination, but I would definitely say that they kind of play a very soup du jour style of offense, right?

Like something's in for a day and then the next day it's off the menu. It's very, it's been that way all season, right? And this is not just in the running game, in the passing game. You know, they come on and say, okay, early down passes. We want to get the ball out of our quarterback's hands quickly against the chargers. It was a ton of empty, right, which didn't really work very well.

We've seen them go under center play action when they really want to attack downfield. And the same things existed in the run game. I am kind of encouraged at least a bit that they have been able to find their ground game because I think that none of this offense works if they don't have that. So maybe there's just enough rhythm. Maybe the attrition of the season is kind of starting to affect their opponents the way that last season's attrition clearly seemed to affect this offensive line in the first half of the season. Everybody's heard a little banged up. You might get a little bit more success on the ground in that way.

And then when you consider what's on the other side of the ball with Josh Allen, the game plan kind of has to be. We have got to get to third and short, right? We've got to run the ball effectively on first down. We've got to get to third and short. And we've got to use all four downs as soon as we get to, you know, like the plus or minus 35, you know, on the field to make sure that. Allen and that offense is not attacking your defense for Philadelphia. Yeah, I think both teams are going to want to run the ball. I mean, you look at the bills, they basically come out every week,

and it's like, we do want to run the ball, even though we have Josh Allen here, and you look at the splits with the Eagles defense. I mean, can those bills pass catchers get open against Cooper DeGine and Quinyan Mitchell? That's advantage Eagles. You know, now Josh Allen could go superhero mode and still make plays downfield, but the bills are still searching for their stuff with the past. The numbers are all really good, but like Keon Coleman's, their fourth leading pass catcher, and he was a healthy scratch line. He's getting healthy scratched.

Yeah, you just kind of don't know what they're going to be with their passing game. So that's going to be a fun thing to watch as well. I think both teams will try to lean on their backs, dynamic backs, lead on their offensive lines in the run game, and we'll see where that leaves us at the end of that game. All right. Next game, I'm up, Deontay. Saturday afternoon, Texans Chargers. we've got here and just what before the headline, what's at stake here?

The Chargers, I don't know if people realize this. If Chargers win their last two games, they win the division. Broncos get bumped to a wild card. That's it. No other caveats. I mean, they've clinched a playoff berth. If they beat the Texans here and beat the Broncos in week 18, they, not the Broncos, are the AFC West champs.

And then you've got the Houston Texans. They still have a 20% chance to win the division per the athletics, playoff simulator. They've got to win their last two games here and have the Jaguars lose one of their last two games here. So that division is still in play for the Houston Texans. I had a tough time with this. I flip up like 30 times. I don't know how this game is going to go. I ultimately settled on Texans D suffocates chargers in decisive road win. Do I feel confident about it? Great about it? No, but this is what happens when you're dealing with two teams where you're not that confident in their offensive lines,

you sort of don't know which way it's going to go. Now, ultimately, I settled on the Texans defense because they didn't play great last week against the Raiders. That felt to me like a random game and a 17 game schedule. That's not necessarily who they are. And for as well as that Chargers team played last week, I think it was the second best game by any offense in a game this season. According to EPA per drive,

that was against maybe the worst defense in the league in the Cowboys. boys. And now they get maybe the best defense in the league in the Houston Texans. And I just feel like some of those issues they have up front with their offensive tackles, with their pass protection. I think those things show up in a game like this where the Texans can take it to them. What's your feel? What's your sense on this game here? Again, it comes back to like reliable units, right? If we were talking basketball, we will be talking about, you know, who's your starting five? Who's your top three guys in your rotation? And right now, Houston, I think, just has an advantage there with Will Anderson, Danielle Hunter, and Derek Stingley, right?

And I think that for all that Los Angeles have been able to do, and a lot of this really has just been what Justin Herbert's been able to do with this offense to mitigate its problems, this is the one style of defense that I think is best built to make sure that every one of Los Angeles's weaknesses are on the front page of every single snap, right? We're going to feel their losses on the offensive line every single snap if Houston is playing to its identity. We're going to feel that lack of a guy that can beat one-on-one coverage,

no matter how or how big or how fast the corner across from him is, right? They don't have that. I think that Houston is very good and very adept and making you feel that lack of number one receiver if you don't have it. And then on the other end for me, I think when it comes down to trust, I do trust where Houston is going offensively. Last week, like you said, kind of an aberration. Maybe, maybe.

Not the sexiest. Not the Sexton. The offensive line, I think, is always going to be on that brink of, okay, when they can hold up. C.J. Stroud looks like 2023 C.J. Stroud, when he doesn't, like when the offensive line can't, then this offense, at least the passing game, really falls apart. I do think it's going to be a tenuous kind of back-and-forth game.

I think this is going to be one of those 17-16, right, 20-17 types of games, right? You know, whoever has the ball last, maybe gets the game-winning field goal off in this game. But I do think I just trust that Houston, can force a turnover or get a key fourth down stop or turn a red zone trip into a field going instead of a touchdown and that ends up being the deciding factor. I think it's really hard. The reason I was going, I feel like we're coming out of this game with one of two storylines. I settled on the one that Chargers whole line can't hold up, you know, against the Texans

defense and that's where I settled on. But it very much could be the other side. Like we could be saying this, we're going to be talking about one of these offenses. And that Texans offense, I just don't know. It's like, it's, you know, depends. on the way the wind blows, how I feel about one week or one month even. They've had good stretches where I go, I think they figure things out. And then they have a game like last week against what had been a lifeless Raiders defense,

a one two, three Kankoon team, if I ever saw one the week before against the Eagles. And the Texans offense looked like that group we watched in the first three weeks of the season. Or I remember when we were in L.A. for the Ringer get together. And they're playing in prime time. And I go, what this, this office, they can't even complete a pass. It feels like a miracle when they complete a pass. And so I don't know what to really take away from this Texans offense. If you look at the league, you know, the season long statistics, they're 26th in EPA

per drive. They're 28th in success rate. Their success rate stinks. Their run game's horrible. They got the second worst run game in the NFL. And so I'm looking at it. I know they've had stretches. I was thinking maybe they've turned the corner, but the numbers kind of.

to tell me a different story. And a game like last week tells me slow down a little bit. Like maybe they haven't totally found something. I'm with you, right? Like it is tenuous. This is a very tenuous team. And it's easy to kind of forget that when you look at the winning streak that they're on, right? Because they've been so hot.

And then you get the prime time game against Josh Allen, right? And then you get to beat up on Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes on Sunday night football. And people see that. And they're like, okay, they score enough points to beat these quarterbacks that we very clearly see a Super Bowl level, Super Bowl winning level quarterback. MVP level quarterbacks, everything must be fine. And then last week happens, and it's just a great reminder that this offense is not humming, right?

It's functional. I think it's just viable enough, especially when you combine it with what they can do on defense for you to feel like, okay, in a one-game sample, they can beat anybody, right? Derek Steenley can get a pick-six like he got last week. You can get tip passes. You can get a seven, eight-sat game like they had against Josh Allen

on Thursday night about a month or so ago. All those things are in play. The issue is just like, the moment that their protection breaks down. What they don't have is a Justin Herbert. I like C.J. Stroud. He's not Justin Herbert in the sense that he's not just going to be shaking off these 260-pound edge rushers, play after play,

getting a ball out underneath, they're being able to extend and all of those types of things. So I do think it might be a little bit more of a war of attrition, right? It's not going to be Jacksonville v. Denver and Denver versus Green Bay in each of the last two weeks. So you get these great offensive games back and forth. This one's going to be a slog. And funnily, because it can go either way, I actually am kind of nervous that we're going to leave this game not feeling like

we've learned anything about how viable either of these two teams are as actual aFC contenders, right? I think this is just going to be two defenses bashing in their opposing offenses, right? And you just get, it's a field goal game. And maybe that ends up being what decides that we don't necessarily feel like we know exactly what to expect of these teams come January. Yeah, very evenly matched. I think it's a one and a half point line.

I think the Chargers are favored. but this is as close to a toss-up game as you can really find. All right, let's take a break. We come back. We got two more games to get to. All right, we are back on the Ringer NFL show. Deonti, I'm going to go again back to back because I've got the other Saturday game, Ravens Packers. What's at stake here?

Ravens are pretty much out of it. But if they win this game and the Steelers lose to the Browns, which not likely, but Steelers are only three and a half point favorites. It could happen. I mean, you know, Steelers aren't a juggernaut. If those two things happen, it would set up a week 18 for the division Ravens Steelers. So again, not likely but possible for the Ravens. And then the Packers, only way they don't get in is if they lose their last two games, this one,

and to the Vikings in week 18 and the Lions win their last two games. So my headline here, Deonti, I feel like we've been circling around this one for maybe a year, maybe two years. Here's what I got. End of an era, question mark. Harbaugh's seat gets hotter as Ravens are officially eliminated. So this is not just podcast fodder. I mean, if you read the coverage in Baltimore, Jeff Rebek of the Athletic, does a fantastic

job. John Harbaugh was, I don't know if bombarded is the right word, but it wasn't just one throwaway. He's answering a lot of questions this week about have you talked to owner Steve Bashati? how do you feel about your job security, X, Y, and Z? And it's just like, this stuff starts mounting up more and more where you look at it and you go, this has just been a bummer of a season. Lamar Jackson, even when he's been healthy, they've gone six and six in his 12 starts.

John Harbaugh has been there 18 years. He's been an excellent coach. But at some point, you just wonder, is this the point where there's going to be a change? And so I think it's a very interesting time for this Ravens franchise. Their backs are against the wall. Who knows if Lamar Jackson's playing in this game? He's got the back injury. Arbaugh's getting these questions.

And suddenly this team, they were what, second in Super Bowl odds going into the season, something like that. Now all of a sudden they could potentially be looking at a coaching change. So where are you with kind of the state of this Ravens team and just how you expect this to unfold in the next couple weeks here? I mean, as far as the headline, you and I are in total alignment on that, right? And I have my questions about what John Harbaugh's job security would have been last year, and then they kind of rallied just enough, right?

And they looked really good coming down the stretch of the season. And, you know, you can kind of dismiss what happened in that playoff game against Buffalo is cold weather, bad turnover luck, you get a drop pass at the end zone that might have given you an opportunity to go to overtime and win that football game. Okay, all that's set to the side. This year, I think, has painted it much more clearly that Lamar Jackson has kind of just been covering the asses of everybody in this organization basically since 2019. And the moment that his play has slipped as a result of injuries, seemed like there's a little

bit of a lack of confidence. He seems a little bit out of rhythm in the pocket and as a scrambler. All of a sudden, all these flaws feel unavoidable now, right? Like the fact that they have not found the defensive identity in the two years post-mic Donald is a big issue, and it's not for lack of trying. They brought in veterans, right? You have Chuck Bagano helping out Zach Orr, right, as a consultant and now DB's coach,

somebody who's been a longtime coordinator and knows defense and is comfortable in the environment that Baltimore has tried to posture defensively, and you still don't have anything there. I think that Todd Munkin has been a great step forward from Gret Roman in terms of developing the passing game, but then you land yourself in situations where you never want to be as a head coach, right?

And it's having to answer something that's unanswerable. And you can't give anybody an acceptable answer for why Derek Henry doesn't touch the ball over, you know, the why, you know, for the wide majority of the fourth quarter of that game on a Sunday night. They were calling it out during the broadcast. I mean, you know, that was like when it's happening in real time and you saw the way he's running it and he's on the sideline with the jacket on, you're going, what is happening here? You know, and if it's week nine and you're just like a five and four team and your starting star running back doesn't touch the ball, you can just be like, hey, man, rotation, long season. In hindsight, we could have got them to ball more, but we'll make sure we have that fixed. Guys, your football lives are on the line here.

Your best running back can't be on the sideline. There is no rotation anymore. This is when or we're done, and they are effectively out of the playoff race, right? Even if we were to get to that week 18 scenario that you laid out, do you have any trust, based on the way that these two teams have played, that Baltimore is going to be the one to outlast them?

I don't, unless, Lamar Jackson was playing his A plus game and we just haven't seen it since he's come back from his hamstring injury and he's going to be battling whatever happened with his back, right, and kind of taking a knee in the liver area. So, you know, he's probably not going to be feeling his greatest coming into this game, even though he's going to be recovering. It's entirely possible, especially if Jordan Love is there and 100% and playing at his best, at his best level, that Green Bay can kind of run away with this game.

I just don't know if Baltimore's defense can stand up against how vertical Green Bay is. offensively, how aggressive they are offensively. And again, it's just going to take Lamar Jackson having to be a hero. And this year, it has just not been very heroic from him under center in the run game either. And I just don't have much trust right now on what's going on in Baltimore. Trust is such a great word for this matchup because the Ravens have not been a trustworthy team all season long. And I absolutely trust the Packers more.

They lose that game last week. But I was thinking about this, Deont. If the Bears don't recover that onside kick, think about it. And if Jordan Love doesn't leave the game. Yeah. But even even he's probably not even in that scenario. Even if he does leave the game. And the bears don't recover that onside kick.

That's the only thing we change. Think about the narratives this week. The bounce of the ball there and Romeo Dobbs not being able to catch it. We're saying Matt LaFleur, what a performance. Man, he went on the road in Chicago. His quarterback goes out of the game. A week after they lose Michael Parsons. and they beat the Bears.

Man, this guy's the most underrated coach in the NFL. We're saying, Malik Willis, what is he the best backup in the NFL? Man, he came in last year and we were impressed. But now to come in in the middle of a game like that, again, on the road, big stakes. And he's carving up that bear's defense. And, you know, we're talking about the Bears differently. 100%. But that one, you know, it's so funny how it happens.

And I get it. This is that time of year. Yeah. This is that time of year, man. All that stuff starts showing up. Yep. Yeah, one play, one bounce of the ball, can shift everything. But I still, as I had some more space away from that game, it was like, you know,

if you're a Packers fan, you're like, man, we took them, we took them to overtime. Our quarterback got knocked out of the game. We played hard. It's not like we played poorly. We actually played well. Our defense held up as well as could be expected without Michael Parsons. They made a great throw at the end of the game. Our coverage was right there.

So it's like, you know, I just feel better about this Packers team, even if I'm not sure about their ceiling, specifically on the defensive side of the ball. It's a different feeling I have about them than I do about this Ravens team. So we'll see what happens there, but I do think this Raven situation is kind of quickly becoming one of the biggest stories towards the end of this season. Like, is something going to happen? Because all of a sudden that becomes a man, you want to go coach Lamar Jackson and now John Harbaugh is in the mix.

He's getting a job right away. You know, which of these teams wants to go get him. So, yeah. If you're a hot coaching candidate, that's one of those jobs where you call your agent. You say, I don't care what we put on this whiteboard. This team goes to the top. Make sure I get an interview. I need to get in front of the Bashadis.

Right. I need to get in front of Eric DeCosta. Even if I don't get this gig, they need to know that this is where I want to be because you can win a Super Bowl here. So I would not be surprised if there's a change. If that does throw everything that we've been talking about in terms of the coaching carousel, totally upside down. Yeah, stable organization, quarterback. quarterback. They have a structure in place for personnel.

So if you don't care about that side of it, you don't have to worry about it. Like, yeah, try it. So that will be, that will be, it could be quickly become one of the biggest stories around the NFL. If Harbaugh is available and then if that job is available or maybe nothing happens. But they feels like they got to do something. I don't know what, but it feels like maybe this is the time where you get that change.

All right. Last game, Sunday night, Deontay, Bears, 49. What's at stake here? Bears are 88% to win the division. They still have a chance to get the one seed here. They basically need to win their last two games. And the 49ers need to beat the Seahawks in week 18. And then the 49ers, if they win these last two, they're the one seat. In the NFC, if they win these last two games, Bears and Seahawks, what do you have for your headline?

Before I give it, it's just wild to me that we could be considering the 49ers being the one. seed because it's just... How about both these teams? If I would have told you at some point. There's never been a point in this season at all where I considered either of these teams to be potential one season in this conference, right? It just kind of speaks to just how wild of a regular season we've been dealing with. But my headline for this

and I think is going to kind of feed into what my analysis is for it is bear down, hopes up, Caleb Williams, dazzles against the 49ers. And to me, to me, I think that this game, while Brock Purdy and the 49ers offense will certainly have their say, especially based off what we saw last night on Monday against the Colts defense, which is banged up, but they moved the ball

very efficiently, and Brock Purdy looks about as good now as he did in 2023, right, when he was leading his offense towards a Super Bowl. But to me, what this game is going to come down to, whether or not Chicago is going to win, whether or not this storyline about Ben Johnson and what he's done to get the best out of Caleb Williams continues is going to be based on whether or not Williams can be disciplined outside the pocket and aggressive within the pocket, right? You're going to be. going to have to play to San Francisco's weaknesses. When you break the pocket against the 49ers, the one thing that they have been great at,

anytime Robert Salas has been calling the defense there is being disciplined on the back end, they're not going to give you those cheap extended plays way over the top of the safety's head, deep downfield type of shots, right? You're going to have to take the checkdown or you're going to have to run it on your own, right? And Caleb Williams is going to have to be wise in that respect

and not make the dumb throw across your body towards the middle of the field, even though you're rolling out just because you think DJ Moore, Colston Loveland is open. And then when you're in the pocket, and this is something that I think he's grown as the season's gone on and gotten more comfortable within Ben Johnson's offense, when he's inside the pocket and it's, you know, three seconds, two point eight seconds, whatever the case may be, that's when you can really push the ball downfield within the structure of your play call. And that's where I think if you're going to attack San Francisco's defense,

that's where they're going to be vulnerable, right? young, inexperienced, up the spine of this defense. A lot of that is because of injury. You're going to have opportunities to set up those double moves, to set up those big posts over the middle of the field to kind of high, low these safeties. I think that's where the opportunity is going to be to attack. It's not going to be on Caleb Williams to break the structure of the play.

He's going to have to be disciplined, play within what the play call is, and then push the ball downfield from the pocket. And based on San Francisco's pass rush and the lack thereof, you should have a good opportunity to be able to do so. he is just going to have to be disciplined in terms of playing within structure. Yeah, I see them very similar these two teams, you know, to your point

what you're talking about. I like both coaches. I trust the scheming of both coaches. I like both offenses. 49ers, like you said, with Purdy, he's playing really well. They do it more with their past game. Bears do it more with their run game. But in this game, Caleb Williams maybe might have to

do more from the pocket like you're saying. Defensively, don't trust either of them. Don't trust either. No, bears have feasted on turnovers. I mean, again, they're getting cooked by Malik Willis. 49ers are getting cooked by Philip Rivers. If they get a couple stops in that game, they might actually win that game on Monday night. So, yeah, I just, I don't know what it's going to, it almost feels like whoever gets the edge on special teams,

whoever gets that turnover wins this game. I don't really see either side getting consistent stops. I think the bears are going to be able to run all over them. I think the 49ers are going to be able to create. explosive plays. So, interesting matchup. It just speaks to, again, these are two teams competing for the one seat. We both just said we don't trust their defenses at all.

That's the kind of year it is in the NFL where every team has that flaw. It's like, well, who can mask it the most? Who can mask it on a three-game run in January on their way to the Super Bowl? But, man, I don't like betting against Ben Johnson versus a vulnerable defense. He's reached that point to me where I'm just like, man, If I don't really like that defense, I think he can probably come up with a way to put a lot of points on the board. And Shanahan, you know, is the under the radar. Quietly.

He's been in his back. I might argue that this is his best coaching job of his head coaching career. This has been far and above anything that I would have expected from this offense coming into this season. And to do so knowing that you have a defense on the other side that you can't really trust. I've been amazed, honestly, by Shanahan's job this season. All right. thank you to Deontay Lee. One note, we're not posting an episode on Friday.

So for the Ringer 107 this week, check out all of our social media channels. All of our picks will be posted there again, since we're not doing a Friday episode. The Ringer's 107 is brought to you by Fanduel. I am looking at a bunch of these games, though. You know, I'm looking at it going, do I really like the Texans? I gave the prediction earlier. Do I like the Texans plus one and a half against the Los Angeles Chargers? I do like the Packers in that game, minus two and a half against the Ravens.

Those are a couple of the ones that I think I'm going to be looking at the Browns as an underdog. We mentioned that's a big game. They're at home. Do I trust that Steelers team? I don't really trust them. Those are some of the ones I'm looking at. Don't have them finalized yet. Let's see what the entries and stuff look like.

And let's see where I finally settle. So again, those will all be posted on the Ringer, Instagram, Twitter, social. media channel so you can find my picks and find the picks from the other shows there again. The Ringer 107, as always, is brought to you by Fandul. All right, Merry Christmas, everyone. Happy holidays. Appreciate you listening. We will be back Monday morning reacting to Week 17.

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