The Ringer NFL Show - QB Unsolved Mysteries! What's Up With Joe Burrow? And What Do the Dolphins Do with Tua?

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

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Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm your host, Shield Capadia. Today we are doing QB Unsolved Mysteries. We've got two. One, what is going on with Joe Burrow? We got to talk about that big story around the NFL. And then the second Unsolved Mystery, what do the dolphins do with Tuatung of Iloa after Monday night's performance

and Mike McDaniel's comment? So to talk about those two Unsolved Mysteries, we've got on Detective Billy Gill from the Ringer. we're going to try to figure out those two situations. Let's take a break. We come back and talk quarterback unsolved mysteries. This episode of The Ringer NFL show is presented by State Farm. Having insurance isn't the same as having State Farm.

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Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. All right, we are back here with Billy Gill doing unsolved QB mysteries, Billy. And the first one is what in the world? Oh, look at that. He's got the magnifying glass, a reason to watch on YouTube or Spotify. The first one is what is going on with Joe Burrow.

So let me give the quick timeline here for the people. And then I want your theories on this. So real quick, the timeline, he starts, the season, injures the toe in week two, has the long rehab process, comes back Thanksgiving night, it's a celebration. He's playing great against the Ravens, they win that game. And then week 14, he plays mostly great against the bills, but has two interceptions late, and they lose. And that's when things take a turn. You know, he has this midweek press conference where he's saying, I have to have fun playing football and some other stuff we can get to. And then after that,

he plays one of his worst games against the Ravens. Afterwards, he's distraught. He's blaming himself, saying no one can win with the quarterback playing that way. And this has led to all kinds of theories. Does he want out of Cincinnati? Does he want to be traded? Does he not like the coach? Is this an Andrew Luck situation?

Is it something different? Billy, where are we? Because this is truly an unsolved mystery. I haven't heard a theory that I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Wow, Sheila, you did, if I may say, an incredible job of painting the picture and setting up this story because that was so much of the notes

that I said, I don't know how many people have the context because this was kind of a story that broke in the middle of last week and some people covered it, some people didn't. We didn't really know what was going on. So you start looking into this because his comments are kind of like,

I don't know if I'm really having fun. I don't know if I'm still kind of, he was kind of hinting at like, I don't know if my heart is still in it, which led people to believe, hey, you know what? Is this an Andrew Luck situation? you ask. And then I thought, you know what? Is it possible that maybe we're overlooking something

here? Is it possible that we're digging too deep? Because he made reference in that to, you know, I'm not feeling great. I got a lot going on. And they said on the field or off the field. And he said a little bit of both. So they're like, hold on a second. What does that mean a little bit of both? So then you start, your mind starts racing. What could be happening off the field that we don't know about. And obviously you hope for, you know, nothing too serious to be going on off the field, but you go back to two years ago when he had that weird situation where he had that break in at his house while he was in the middle of playing a game. And at the time, he was reportedly engaged to Olivia No. 1. According to Pac-Man Jones, we knew him and Olivia No. 1 were dating

going back to college. Pac-Man let it slip. Yeah. Pac-Man let it slip that he thought that they were engaged. And then there was never any confirmation. That break-in happens, but we find out that Olivia number two is actually in the house, not Olivia number one, who he was engaged to. The next year, they quietly break up. And now there's speculation that Olivia number two and him are in a relationship. They've been seen together. At the time of the break-in, Olivia number two is the one that reported it. And then they ask him, who is Olivia number two? This person's named Olivia, but that's a different last name. That's a different person. This one, I believe, is a sports illustrated swimsuit model, like why was this person at your house?

And then it was like the classic, oh, that's just one of my employees. It's like, okay, like I get it, Joe, like you're rich and famous. We don't all have like swimsuit models as our employees. Like it was still kind of like a weird situation. So that was going off behind the scenes, but we don't know a ton of what was going on off the field besides that, right?

So then I just started looking. And you know what I noticed, Sheel? What's that? So this interview happened, and this could be a very basic, maybe oversimplification. and hopefully Joe's not going through anything and we're not dismissing anything that he's going through. But this press availability, this interview happened

on December 10th, last week on Wednesday. Right? And why is that date significant? And you know why the date December 10th is significant, Sheel? I don't. The 10th. December 10th is Joe Burroughs' birthday. Oh, yes. So Joe Burroughs' birthday, December 10th,

2025. Do you know what age he turned? I spoiled it a little bit earlier. 29, I believe. He turned 29. That's right, Sheel. So could this be a situation where Joe Burrow might just have the case of the blues, a case of the, oh, wow, this isn't going how I thought it was going to go? I'm 29. What have I actually accomplished in my life besides being a national champion besides being a star quarterback, besides signing a five-year, $275 million contract. What have I done? And am I happy? Are these things enough?

Because if you remember, now this isn't an injury thing, but I don't know if you saw the Netflix documentary on Aaron Rogers, where Aaron Rogers, we saw in the first or second episode, he went and his whole life was football, football, his whole goal was to go and win the Super Bowl. And then he climbed the mountaintop and he won that Super Bowl. And you know what he found out? It wasn't as fulfilling as he thought. That's what A.J. Brown said last year with the eagle.

He said the same thing. You know, you work all this time and you get there and you think I'm going to feel different. And I didn't feel different. Kevin Duran has said this in basketball. Okay, so you think maybe a case of the birthday blues, which I think is a thing. Now, did you hear in the press conference? They actually asked him, what are you going to do for your birthday? I don't know if you caught this snippet or not.

That's how I caught on to the fact that it was his birthday. They asked him about his birthday. Later on, they were asking him about Pokemon cards. They were asking him about what he wanted. He then starts talking. And he, by the way, I don't know if you noticed in that clip towards the end where he was talking about Pokemon cards and he was talking about collections and all that. He started to kind of brighten up a little bit.

I'd never see them happier, including when they made the super ball. I mean, this actually is incredible. So we both watched the entire press conference. And first of all, just to close the loop on the birthday blues, they said, what are you going to do? and he basically said, well, it always falls in the middle of football season. And this is a quote.

He said, go to bed early, eat some food. I mean, that sounds like birthday blues to me. Go to bed early, eat some food, you know,

nothing about where so-and-so is going to come over. We're going to get some king, nothing like that. So that is good for your theory. And then they start asking him about Pokemon, because he says the old I mean got me, you know, Pokemon cards.

His eyes light up. He's laughing. genuine laughter, not the fake, like, reporter athlete laughter. Like, he is lovingly. He starts talking about card culture. He starts talking about the market. He lets his guard down. You would think it's a different person than the guy who minutes earlier is talking about,

you know what? If I'm going to play football, I need to have fun playing football. What did you make of that, Billy? So it was odd because, like you're saying, his eyes lit up. And they said, well, which cards did you get? And he said, I haven't been able to open the packs yet. So he now has this glimmer of hope. Maybe I'm not just going to have this sad birthday alone,

possibly with an Olivia number two, possibly with an Olivia number three. Who's to say? But he gets very excited. And here's another thing, because you mentioned, he said, my birthday always falls during the football season.

So that's going back to childhood, right? Where he was probably in high school, if he was still competing at an elite level, that's right around state championship time is where we're at in the high school season, right? In college, you're gearing up for the playoffs, or, you know, he transferred. So your season's winding down.

He's kind of thinking, what is my future? How do I prepare for next season? So if we go back to his childhood, Joe Burroughs' birthday was probably something that was like this the entire time. And now he's getting to 29. And he's saying, you know what? I've never really experienced a birthday.

I've never celebrated a birthday. My friends got me these Pokemon cards, which by the way, I don't know, I don't know if in covering the games, I don't know if you've ever interacted with Joe Burrow. I don't know if you've ever seen him up close in person. I have not, no. Well, so last year, I saw Joe Burrow at Super Bowl Radio Row,

towering over everyone, completely shredded. He probably had two, three, five percent body fat at most, completely put together. But this is not, and look, this may be a stereotype, and we do not endorse the stereotypes or encourage the stereotypes. or encourage the stereotypes here, the ringer NFL show or any other ringer shows. But a 6.5 Adonis is not someone who you normally associate with Pokemon cards.

Correct me if I'm wrong. You never know what's happening inside. You don't know. So there's a chance that this little boy who never celebrated birthdays growing up, always like Pokemon cards, but it was the wrong cultural fit to what it is that he was doing. There were no Pokemon cards in elementary school or high school football, locker rooms presumably right.

So now Joe goes, and even, I don't know if you caught this, even in the press conference, when they asked him about card culture, he said, now, let me just be very clear, I've never been to the card stores. I've never waited in the lines. He made sure to get out in front of that, so there were no rumors that Joe Burrow was going and camping out for card releases. He said, I've never been any part of that,

but I've heard stories. Yeah. And part of you wonders, does Joe think, you know what, if I call it quits this year, can I be part of those lines? He could go to the lines. He could have the birthday. He could go all out. He could catch them all.

He could catch them. There you go. That's a good theory. I have some other theories. I like your theory. The birthday blues theory. I'm going to throw a few other theories out at you. And you tell me, you know, what you think about these.

The one that's been floated around, which I don't buy is that he wants out of Cincinnati, you know, that he wants to be traded. I don't buy that because he got paid. has Jamar Chase, he has T. Higgins. I don't think he wants to leave those guys. I'm sure he wishes some of the circumstances were different. I don't think Joe Burrow is going anywhere. That's one theory.

Theory number two, this is the one I actually think, you know, Billy is. I just think the physical, mental, emotional toll of playing football. You know, that's what it sounded like to me. It's like, oh, my guy was rehabbing this injury for months. Then I come back. I see the team's playoff hopes evaporate. What if I were to get injured again? That would be terrible.

I don't want to do that. And I know he's making $55 million per year. But you know what? Sometimes the rehab, the injuries, that's a lonely process for football players. So I think that's another one. And the last one I'll leave you with, which isn't that different than the birthday blues theory. Maybe he was just having a bad day. Maybe.

Billy, you know? Maybe the Wi-Fi wasn't working. Maybe he stubbed his toe. You know, I was thinking what the people in my life, like what could put something kind of an ordinary reflective mood. What if he was constipated, Billy? You know, this has been a big thing for Capadias for generations. You know, I once had an uncle comes over from India's visiting.

He's constipated. The whole family is rallying around Mukun Uncle trying to figure, how can we get him unconstipated? He's saying, I want to go back to the motherland because I don't like it here. And I'm constant. Now, I don't know necessarily that Joe Burrow would affect him like it does some of the Capadias. But those were some of the theories on my mind. Your thoughts.

Can we go one by one on the theories before a bigger picture? Do whatever you want. So the first one is the theory that he doesn't want to be in Cincinnati. So Cincinnati has surrounded him with weapons. They give him his big contract, right? But they just signed T. Higgins. They just signed Jamar Chase. They've invested on the offensive side.

He has now two receivers with long-term deals who are very, obviously, more than capable. They're star receivers. So it would be hard to believe that whatever he's going, going through, he's got to look at it and say this situation is so dire that I'm going to just pull an Andrew Luck and be done with it, right? Even injuries aside, because even if you go back to kind of his years and his injuries, he's only had like two seasons that he's missed significant time. He's played through a lot of these injuries. So I don't think that he is ready to give up on football and he's got a good outlook ahead of him if he sticks with Cincinnati. So I'm with

you. I don't think that it's a Cincinnati thing. Okay. The stubbing the toe. Now, he missed significant time this season with turf toe. So had he stub that toe, that would have been bad. That could have been bad. And that could have been a thing. And then he's kind of like, well, I just came back.

And now I have stubbed this toe that had turf toe before. Like, do I tell anyone? Do I not? Here's another weird thing that we haven't talked about just in terms of like Cincinnati and mismanagement because they also ask him like, hey, typically if you miss the playoff three years in a row, there's changes. And he's like, well, I think that we're good here. I think the things are fine.

But from the outside, you have to understand the fans. This is when changes are typically made. So he was not saying we need to make changes. There need to be changes in the front office. There need to be changes at the top or the coach or whatever. But historically, that seems like something that is possible, if not probable. I'm with you there. Now, Zach Taylor, according to the athletic, is under contract for the next two years.

And we know the Bengals organization, do they want to? to pay a coach and then bring in a new coach and pay that coach. Probably not, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities. And the stuff you mentioned with the defense, it's kind of funny because they've invested a lot of draft picks in the defense. They just have missed on a lot of draft picks. So like they have this plan,

pay the wide receivers, pay borough, add to the offensive line. And then let's build the defense through the draft. And that hasn't worked either. So I don't think he's going anywhere. You know, like, and first of all, if he were on the market,

I mean, this would make the Michael Parsons trade look like peanuts. I mean, we're talking about three firsts. The whole Lee, I mean, so many teams would want Joe Bro. We're talking three first round picks at a minimum for Joe Burrow. So I don't think that's happening. I think Joe Burroughs going to stay in Cincinnati. I think maybe, you know, he's just going in his feelings, right? That's what the kids say.

In his feelings a little bit? I think that, I mean, I didn't dress the other one where maybe he was constipated. then you had your uncle that was constipated and everyone was rallying around him. Can you tell me in the audience just a little bit more about that situation? So your whole fan who was rallying around the uncle, like, food,

so he came over from Mumbai. Yeah, and we're at my other uncle's house in shout out, Catensville, Maryland. And we're all, you know, family get together. You live in on different content.

It's nice. The brothers get together, the cousins, everybody. And the guy's just having a terrible time, you know, because he can't, I mean, we don't need to get it. But now people, well,

VS, we could try this. Oh, and then you know how it goes. So, oh, well, my, you know, when this happened to so-and-so, they tried this remedy. That, you know, my family, a lot of that, so that I actually don't know. I just remember that he was ready to book a flight back because he's, I'm not going to have a good, this country. I'm not going to have a good time here if this continues. Now, eventually he stayed. He didn't have to go back.

But listen, you have kids, I have kids. Yeah. And we can speak for ourselves as well if we want. It's an uncomfortable situation that can ruin your day, I think. Listen, not to kind of put my business out there, but I had a trip to Spain. We were there for 10 days. We went for a wedding to one of my wife's uncles. And, you know, it's a different diet that you have when you're there.

The food is different. Your body reacts differently. How does the body know? The body knows. Your body always seems to know when you're eating something differently. Yeah. So there you go. Did we get to the bottom of this?

I don't think so. No, but I like our theory. We tried. Yeah, we're looking into it still. We tried. You got the magnifying glass. Maybe we'll revisit it when something else. I don't think anything's imminent. I don't think he's going to retire this offseason. I don't think he's going to get traded. I think he plays out the season, resets. And like you said, if there's something more, maybe if there's a family situation, if there's a health thing, it could be one of those things. We don't know about it now. Then we will obviously not be making light of it.

Well, that's the situation. That would be very understanding. And you'll feel bad about saying maybe he was constipated. Well, but that's always in play as far as I'm concerned. Obviously, if there's a mental health, we understand the serious things. If it's a serious thing, we'll find out, we'll talk about it again. All right, let's take a break. We got one more unsolved mystery to get to. This episode is brought to you by Amazon Prime.

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It's on Prime. Head to Amazon.com slash Prime to shop now. All right, we are back on the ringer NFL show. All right, Billy. Our second and final QB Unsolved Mystery hits home for you. What are the dolphins going to do with Tua Tungaviloa? So we are recording this on a Tuesday night after Mike McDaniel said, everything's on the table in terms of benching Tua,

where I feel if the coach is saying that, it feels like the QB is going to get benched. But regardless, he said the QB play was not good enough in their Monday night loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and now we're trying to figure out what do the dolphins do with Tua going forward? I have some thoughts, but you are a dolphins fan. You are down there in South Florida.

So you tell me, how does this play out? How do you want it to play out? And then I'll give you maybe some alternatives that hopefully you haven't thought of. I think that it does not play out well, unfortunately, for this situation. So you always had the people that were there questioning whether or not

he was the guy, whether or not he was good enough, Is it all Mike McDaniel's scheme? Is it Tyree kill? Like, what is it with Tua? He had the accuracy. He led the league in passing yards one year, but it was always kind of like, but it's the perfect circumstance for him. He's been very divisive and he's had his defenders here.

And this year, I think he's kind of lost a lot of those defenders. He just looks slow. Like one thing that he always had the past couple seasons was he made a quick decision. From the time that the ball was snatched to the time that he released it, it was one of the fastest in the NFL. And it was whether it was. just, you know, he's, he knows exactly where he's going. It's the first option or whatever. This year, it's not that. He's, he's a little bit slower. He seems to be processing things

slower. A lot of the passes that he has, he's little kind of like throws a two yards or he throws behind the line of scrimmage to Devon A. Chan and hopefully he makes a play and, oh, wow, look, 15-yard game, whatever, and that shows up in the stats. But he just hasn't seemed to be himself this year. And unfortunately, it's, it hasn't been good enough. And it doesn't seem like it's going to be good enough. And if you look at what he's scheduled to make the next couple years, it's 40 plus million, close to 50 million in the next three years. And next year's dead cap, and you're smarter than me on this situation.

Next year's dead cap hit is $99 million. So how do you just have to go away? It seems almost impossible. Yeah. So that would be the biggest dead cap hit in NFL history, worse than Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson currently, I think he was in the 8th. 80s and the Broncos just said, we can't do this anymore. You're out of here. So cutting him

does not really feel like a viable option. Now, I'm with you. This feels like the end to me, just to be clear, because it feels like he has had the best situation he'll ever have when he had Mike McDaniel's scheme working and Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle like you alluded to. You really, if you're the dolphins and you're like the owner, you can't really talk to yourself into a situation where, hey, if we get a different coach in here, you know, Tua's going to play back. I don't think anyone thinks that. Nobody thinks that with Tua, that it's an issue of coaching. The coach has probably maximized what he is.

And now the coach says, I kind of want to bench him. So here's what I think one option is, Billy. There are three options. One is you bring him back. And whether he's the starter or you say, hey, bring him back with some competition, a draft pick, you get someone else. You could do that and bring him back for one more year. You could bring him back, but just have him be the backup.

Like Kurt Cousins this year in Atlanta say, I know this stinks, but you know what? This is the situation we're in. We can't get rid of him. But here's the third situation. So he's still $54 million guaranteed next year. What if you traded Tua, but you're not just, I know what you're saying right now. You're listening going, you can't trade Tua.

No one wants that contract. I understand. You pull what we like to call an Osweiler, Billy, where the dolphins are the team, including the draft capital, in the trade. So in other words, they're saying, please somebody take this contract off of our books. We will throw in maybe, let's say, a second round pick and we'll pay. I'm just throwing numbers out there. $27 million of his salary. If somebody is willing to take this, because after 2026, it's not that bad.

You can release Tua and you can be okay. As a Dolphins fan, now you would need to have a plan B with what you're going to do, a quarterback with you stuff. but would you be in favor of that type of deal? Do you want to get rid of him so badly and not have him be your quarterback in 2026 so badly that you say we are actually willing to give you something to take him off our hands?

Okay, so you mentioned it that it's not bad hit after. So after next season, it's $31 million. So you can kind of like eat that dead cap. You can do that. That happens all the time with quarterbacks. All right. Now, here is why I think your first option might unfortunately be more likely, which is we're just going to run it back with him,

is because there doesn't appear to be a plan B with Tua. Like, coming into this season, what they did was, they've had these playoff runs where Tua ends up being injured or you have guys where Tua's out that can't win the games that keep you in playoff contention and kind of your season unravels there, right? So you kind of knew this team needs a plan B a quarterback if he gets injured.

And this has been the rare season where Tua has been healthy the entire season, and he just hasn't been good enough. Like if we're just going to be completely honest with what happened. He was healthy. He didn't get the concussions. He didn't have any other nagging injuries. He just wasn't good enough. He had like a hip thing at one point in time.

But he's been healthy enough. He just hasn't been good enough. What if the Miami Dolphins traded Tua Tunga Bailoa and a second round pick to the Indianapolis Colts for, Anthony Richardson. So let me hear here. Here's the idea here. Okay. So the Colts say we're not, Richardson didn't work out. We don't want him. We're getting rid of him. Whatever. They say, well, do we really want to? Well, do we know Daniel Jones is going to be ready to start next season? I mean, look at what Shane Steichen did with Daniel Jones. No one thought Daniel Jones was

good. And look at what he did with them. If two has got the good offensive line, good supporting cast, and good play caller, now we're hedging our bets. Now we got one hand in the Tua basket. Now we got one hand in the Daniel Jones basket. We're taking on that contract, but it's only for one year. We're not paying any quarterback big money. So we do that. And we're getting, by the way, a second round pick. Because remember, we gave up two first round picks to get Sauce Gardner. We need that draft capital. So the cults say this is a worthwhile move to make. And the dolphins say, we're getting off the two of a contract. We're not saying Anthony Richardson's going to be Cam Newton or anything. But you know what? We can try him out for a year. We can still draft a

quarterback. We can still figure this out. But you know what? We knew we had a ceiling with Tua. We're moving on from that. Who says no, Billy? Did I do it? Did I solve the mystery of Tua Tua Tua Tuna Viloa and what the Miami Dolphins should do? If you are the Indianapolis Colts, I think you do that. Because what you're basically saying is, is Tua worse than 44-year-old Philip Rivers. Because that's what they're dealing with right now. And I, 45-year-old Philip Rivers is not coming back next season. Well, maybe he just needs a year. You know, it gets in shape.

Possibly. Possibly. He didn't look terrible, terrible. You know, like he was fine enough, right? But Daniel Jones, again, as you said, we don't know how that's going to play out. And Anthony Richardson, you also now are kind of on the clock with Anthony Richardson, too, where at a certain point you're going to have to make a decision. So now you can say, okay, well, we can kind of eat the two-a-deal, and maybe he's there.

We get him for a year. something out. Listen, the football contracts and the numbers don't actually mean anything. We all know that. Somehow someone in there makes that stuff disappear, right? Where now, if you're the dolphins, here's the thing. You seemingly didn't have a plan, right? Because you brought in Zach Wilson, but you signed him to a one-year deal when you had someone like James Winston out there who you could have brought in as a serviceable backup who signed a two-year deal for as much as Zach Wilson's one-year deal. But the dolphins didn't do that because the dolphins have been tiptoeing around two of this entire time where they don't want him to feel threatened, which

is why Ryan Tannahill never came back and he just quietly retired into the night. So Zach was never a threat. Quinn yours who you drafted in the seventh round wasn't even active yesterday in the game on Monday night football, which tells you like, so that's not their second option there.

So you also have teams way ahead of them in the draft who will take, like the Jets out there who will take a quarterback, you have the Rams who might be thinking about. You have people out there who are going to address the quarterback thing where who's even going to be a, available to Dolphins, so you may not be able to address that in the first round of the draft.

And now if you're the Dolphins, you get out of that money, but now you're on the clock with Anthony Richardson. And it's kind of like, well, if he has a decent year, now what do we do? Because that's a great problem to have for them, though. If he actually plays well, that's great. But it didn't work out well with Tua because Tua played well enough for you. Like, you know what? I don't know if this is a franchise quarterback or not, but look around. Like, we got to lock this guy up before he gets more expensive or before we have to kind of start over. And now you're, what, two years into him signing that deal and you're trying to find a way out. And if you're Anthony Richardson, like, I hope that doesn't happen in terms of like signing

another bad deal. But Anthony Richardson's, I kind of like that option. It's nice little option they have there. All right. I like this deal. We didn't solve Burrow, but we may have solved the unsolved mystery of Tua, Tongaviloa so there you go. His name is Billy Gill.

Always a lot of fun to have him on. We're not doing a hurry up to. We had too many mysteries to solve. We can't do a hurry up on a day like this. So thank you to Billy. Thanks to everyone for listening. Thanks to Christopher Sutton for producing Kira Givens on social and additional production supervision by Connor and Evans and Arjuna Rahmgobal.

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