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Welcome to the Ringer NFL show.
My name is Danny Hifitz.
I'm joined by my co-host here on the big board.
Danny Kelly, what's up, D.
What is up?
It is draft week, baby.
Finally.
We're recording this on Monday.
First round of the drafts Thursday.
It's time.
Let's just figure out what the hell is going to happen.
All right?
I'm tired of all this going to.
going on and it's like, here's who should take it.
Let's just, we're going to go through today
and we're going to figure out as best as we
possibly can what is actually going to happen
in the first round on Thursday.
Are you down? We're going to be
very accurate, I think.
So here's the thing, though.
We have a little twist here, which is have, you know, the Seinfeld
episode where George is trying to
break up with, I think her name's Mora?
And he's like,
I'm breaking up with you and she's like, no.
And Jerry's like, what is this? Like a
submarine, like you both have to turn your keys?
And George is like, turn your key,
Maura, turn your key.
Well, then I am going to have to ask you
to turn your key.
I'm sorry, George, I can't do that.
Turn your key, Maura.
Turn your key.
That's what we're going to do here with this mock.
It's not like, I'm going to make a pick, and the
D.K's going to make a pick. We both have to
agree that this
makes sense. We both have
to turn our keys.
And D.K., you know what's going to happen if we can't agree?
we're going to test the strength of our relationship
I think that's exactly what's going to do
what do we do if we come to an impasse here
this is going to be bad content
someone's got a budge I don't know
really pissed at each other the whole time I don't know
we'll find out how aggressive
and more passive aggressive this exercise gets
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Exactly.
All right.
So with all that, let's just jump in here.
So we're going to go through the 32 picks and we're going to figure out, again,
not what we want to happen, what we actually think is going to happen.
So with that sense.
Shit.
We just turn our keys here.
He has their playbook.
He's the number one pick.
So one of our producers here,
Arjun,
just asked the real question here,
which is,
do you think the Jaguars
take the full 10 minutes
to make the pick?
Oh, yeah.
They're absolutely going to be insufferable.
This happens every single year.
Like, even when it's 100% certain,
they've already, like,
I mean,
I feel like they could already signed him
and they're still going to take the 10 minutes.
I don't think they will.
There was one year,
Goodell, like,
actually said,
and I have the pick and everyone, like,
roared because it was just complete pandering.
I'm serious?
I don't remember that.
I think Goddell works out.
I think Goddell works out.
has the pick. I don't think they take it down. Anyway, can we turn our keys here? I doubt it.
Yeah, we'll turn the keys. Okay. Jets. Zach Wilson, uh, are we turning keys here?
I mean, yes. I think there's, I still think there's like a very small chance that it could be a
complete surprise curveball, but no, I think it's going to be Zach Wilson. It seems, uh, beat reporters
seem pretty much in consensus that this is the pick. I haven't seen any indication that it's not the
pick. Have you? I have not. I was, I was kind of waiting for this week,
someone to just something turn,
actually they're waiting for fields.
Nothing has come out.
It is at this point just pure contrarianism
on my part to think I will turn my key
at Zach Wilson to the Jets.
I feel, so just my hot take is there should be
more discussion here why the Jets are not
taking fields and they're taking,
why we've all kind of assumed it's Zach Wilson
and why are we not having this discussion?
But, you know, I think at this point
we kind of have accepted that this is the pick,
so we'll just go with it.
It's such a fertile take round.
that the fact that it's not out there yet, to me, means it's going to happen.
Before we get to the 49ers, and this is a good segue, I think, is like, you almost have to
give you give the Jets credit for this not being a bigger storyline.
Everyone sort of accepted that at Zach Wilson and people are fine with it, whereas everyone
is pissed about the 49ers who might be taking Jones.
They might be taking Tray Lance.
They're probably not taking Justin Fields.
And we've spent the last month talking about the 49ers when no one's talking about the Jets.
You almost have to give the Jets credit for sort of just like flying under the radar.
A little massaging of the merit.
Pun intended.
Pun intended.
Yeah.
Ha, ha.
Wow.
Jets, well done.
All right.
Let's turn with submarines and up planes.
Turn the, return the keys on Zach Wilson.
Niners, number three.
We have to talk here.
A lot of like hype this morning.
This is Monday afternoon.
Did you see Kyle Shanahan at the press conference today?
and someone asked him who will be on the roster
Sunday and he said
he said I can't guarantee anyone in the world
will be alive Sunday so I can't guarantee
who will be on our roster on Sunday.
E.R.Bs. Yeah, he
you're the nihilist here. How do you feel that
Kyle Shanhill and Shanhan's also a nihilist?
It kind of, I kind of
like it. It's almost like making me
want to be a fan of 49ers because he's
just like embracing the uncertainty of
the human condition.
You know, it's just like, I don't know what the hell is
going to happen. We could all be dead.
There could be an asteroid that hits tomorrow for all I know.
Why do we have to worry about this?
Do you want to just end the podcast?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we got to do something here.
So, okay.
So Peter King wrote this morning for a pro football talk here that quote,
hearing it's a two horse race with Trey Lance and Mac Jones, unquote.
Yeah.
And then basically many other people are reporting this.
Todd McShay at ESPN wrote that it seems that Kyle Shanahan wants Mac Jones
and the Niners scouting department or personnel department,
leans toward Tray Lance.
Yeah.
I feel like that means
it's Mack Jones.
Because Shanahan has the ultimate.
Shannon's in charge there.
We talk about this a lot.
Some teams, the coach is in charge,
some teams the GMs in charge.
Kyle Shannon's in charge of the Niners.
He is the decision maker,
at least for this pick.
The key point here,
I think, is that
they haven't made an official decision,
which absolutely blows my mind.
I mean, so like,
Hyphids, your hot take has been
throughout this process
that they traded up to three.
and they had they did not know who they were going to take and in fact
Albert Breer wrote this morning he can see I he says quote I can say without any doubt
that the Niners didn't know who they were taking when they made the trade up in late March
to me this is I said this on our show on the rear fantasy football show last week you made
fun of you mocked me not a mocked that you actually I can't I cannot abide this this
this type of decision making blows my mind it is absolutely like incompetence the fact
that you would trade two future first round picks
and a future third,
you're basically mortgaging the future of your franchise
and you don't have conviction on one guy,
you don't have the conviction to say,
this is a guy that we think is going to change,
this is going to make us a Super Bowl team,
this is going to be the difference maker we need.
They're just saying, we need a quarterback.
I think it makes sense, though.
It's kind of like you're going to get,
someone's like, you're going to get ice cream,
and it's like there's two or three flavors you really want.
And if you don't have one of those two flavors,
you're not really disappointed.
But as long as you're getting,
for ice cream.
What?
This is like a little bit more important than going out for ice cream.
Yeah, but everything in life seems to scale down to very small.
The higher up you go, it's like, it's all the same, really.
The nihilism thing, like Shanahan saying, I think we could all be dead by Sunday.
I can't guarantee anyone's even going to be alive.
Like, this is starting to make some sense.
Like, if they have a nihilist attitude about this, they're just like, we'll take whoever.
We just don't want Jimmy G.
To your point, though, I understand it's more complicated than getting ice cream.
I watched the Oscars last night, and I don't remember.
which director said this.
I want to say it was David Fincher,
who said that basically there's a hundred ways
to shoot every scene,
but really there's only two.
It's just, it's not, it's crazy.
Anyway, the point is,
I think it's Mac Jones.
I think that that's where we've landed.
It comes down to preference,
and whatever we think,
we have talked ad nauseum about what we think about this,
but here's what it comes down to.
It seems that teams have doubts
about Justin Fields's throwing mechanics or whatever,
elbow throwing as Chris Sims would say
and I just think that Kyle Shanahan seems to prefer
Mac Jones as his
control around the field
so to speak?
So I have
I put a new mock draft out this morning.
I have Mac Jones in this spot.
But after reading
everything and listening to everything this morning,
I'm starting to believe it's Tray Lance.
I'm starting to think that it's not going to be Mac Jones.
So Adam Schaefter has been like
the loudest voice that said basically in this
whole time has been like it's Mac Jones.
I'd be shocked.
I believe he said I'd be shocked if it wasn't Mac Jones.
On his podcast this morning,
Schefter said a 49ers moved up with the idea of taking Mac Jones at three.
But over the last like month or whatever of evaluating
and going through their due process on all these quarterbacks,
Trey Lance just feels they went to the pro days, all that stuff.
It's been quote, it's made, quote, the decision much tougher than they expected it be
and they're still going back and forth.
So, I don't know, it feels like Schifter's a little backtracking a little bit on like his initial strength of like it's Mac Jones.
We're getting more and more indication that Trey Lance is in the running.
I'm thinking I might change my pick to Trey Lance here.
I was going to turn my key for Mac Jones.
Yeah.
Are you willing to turn it for Trey Lance or do we, are you feeling, what conviction do you have?
Do you have more conviction than the 49ers here?
I think they will take Mac Jones.
I don't have strong conviction, so I'm going to go with you on this one.
I'm turning my key for Mac Jones.
Will you turn your key?
Yeah, I'll go with you on this one.
Okay.
Wow.
So it's Lawrence to the Jags, obviously.
Zach Wilson or the Jets.
Mack Jones to the Niners.
What a world we live in.
Okay, so this is the Falcons.
This is also a pivot point in the draft.
We know whatever happens.
It's going to be quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.
This is also where a lot of mocks fall apart because the Falcons.
Are they going to go quarterback or position player?
Let's just start right there.
I feel based on everything we know,
they're probably not going to go quarterback.
The logic for quarterback is like,
well, they won't be this high again,
and it just seems like that's not how they're thinking.
Right.
I think they're going to take a position player.
Can we agree there?
That's where I'm leaning.
Yes.
I think that there's a small chance,
and I saw Todd McShay from ESPN,
like, threw this out there,
that the wild card is Arthur Blankets involved
and steps in and says,
hey, let's take a quarterback.
This is for the good of the future of the franchise.
But I've sort of been leaning very ever so slightly
that they're going to take a position player
because I think they're a good enough team
with a good enough roster
to be competitive this year,
especially if they add a dynamic talent
at this number four spot.
And so I think as a new coach,
new GM, they're going to want to hit the ground running.
They're not going to want to do like a multi-year rebuild.
Or at least that's like I'm projecting that on to them.
This is what I would do.
So I don't know.
I think, yeah, I'm going to lean, not quarterback.
I think they're going to take a position play.
I think they would like to trade down,
but ultimately I don't think they're going to be able to.
And so I think they take Kyle Pitts.
That's where I think this is going.
This is the best guy out there.
He's the Julio Jones-like receiver in this draft.
Jamar Chase is great too.
But Kyle Pitts is the guy that completely unlocks what their offense is able to do.
Arthur Smith is an offensive coach.
I'm turning my key on Kyle Pitts at four.
Same.
Turning the key.
Bang.
All right.
Bangles at five.
This one's also confusing.
So basically it's like there's Penae Sewell,
and then there's Jamar Chase at this spot.
Yeah.
If I'm in charge, I saw the photos of Joe Burroughs
the eight-inch scar on his knee.
And I'm like, you should probably draft the tackle
who's been compared to Jonathan Ogden, in my opinion.
But if you put a gun to my head, I think it's Jamar Chase.
I'm not willing to turn key yet.
What do you think?
So I'm in the exact same place as you.
I've gone back and forth of this.
I don't know.
I think I've decided that the best move
and the smartest move for them would be to take Sewell.
And the reason in my mind,
is that the drop-off from Sewell to a early second-round tackle is bigger.
It's like a wider delta than the difference between...
Math guy now?
Wider delta?
I don't even know, like, yeah, is that...
Am I using that correctly?
It's a wider...
The other guys could be worse.
Yes.
Then going from Jamar Chase to like an early second-round receiver.
I think there's some very...
In other words, there's some talented second-round receivers in there.
Wider delta.
What is this?
Like a river system?
One guy's the Nile and one guy's like the Colorado.
Yeah.
So I think if I was in real life, if I was the GM here, I would probably take Sewell.
But I think I'm exactly on the same way Blake as you.
I think that the Bengals are going to take chase here.
I think Jamar Chase is the pick.
This is what we've been hearing.
There's reports here.
This is what the, I guess, like, that's word on the street is that they love Chase.
And I just think ultimately that's what they're going to do.
And then they can pick like a offensive lineman in the second, third round.
They can rebuild their offensive line that way.
But I think they see this guy as like a game changer.
It sounds like Burrough has been like lobbying for it with with, you know, the coaching staff,
GM, the ownership, all that, like get this guy here.
He's going to be a game changer for us, blah, blah, blah.
If they get Chase, they're going to have Chase T.
Higgins, Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon in that offense.
I don't think Burroughs lobbying means anything.
But I do think the interesting about the Bengals is that they're running.
by Mike Brown, who's just like the most,
it's like the Bengals are like the smallest shop
of the NFL teams.
And so you can like,
maybe the most involved owner
in the drafting process,
probably even more so than Jerry Jones.
And like Peter King pointed out that
Peter King started out as a Bengals reporter
and he pointed out you can look at the last 30 years
of like Bengals drafts and like they draft
receivers high back to back years all the time.
The fact they drafted T. Higgins with like the first pick
of the second round last year does not mean they will not go a receiver again.
They've actually done that multiple times.
And that kind of convinced me as like the last final straw.
I'm turning key for Jammar Chase.
I'm watching.
I like it.
Yep.
Little Larry Fitz.
All right.
So it's Lawrence to the Jags, Wilson to the Jets,
Mack Jones to the Niners, Kyle Pitts to the Falcons,
and Jamar Chase to the Bengals.
Let's go to the Dolphins at six.
I have no idea, man.
I feel like at this point, it's the two Bama receivers left.
It's Jalen Wilder or Devante Smith.
I have no idea.
What do you think?
Yeah.
So I think, look, the initial reaction to,
the trade. So they basically they traded off, traded out of the number three spot to number 12.
And then almost immediately traded with the Eagles from 12 to 6. And the idea, I think,
in the initial reaction was they want to go back to 6 because it's a position where they have
a lot of leverage. They can get one of the top playmaking pass catchers in the draft of either
Kyle Pitts, Chase, Devonte Smith, or Jalen Waddle. Like one of those guys are going to be there.
We know that for sure. We want one, we want a game changing like, you know, playmaker
whatever. But I think the question here, the big question for me now is if Sewell is on the board
here, will they take a tackle or will they go with like what we thought was the original plan,
which was to grab one of these playmakers and kind of like, you know, do exactly what I guess
what the Bengals are trying to do, which is like make their, their offense like as much of a
powerhouse as possible to take the pressure off of their quarterback. And Tua definitely needs that.
Tua needs more talent around him if he's going to make a big jump in year two. So at the end of the
day. As much as I love Sewell, as much as I think it'd probably be the smarter move.
I've got Sewell higher on my board. I think it would probably be a smarter move. However,
I do think it's going to be Jalen Waddle right here. Jalen Waddle. So the irony is that Devonty Smith
and Jailin Waddle both were asked Mack Jones or Tua and they both were like Mac Jones.
And then now one of them might go play with Tua, which is absolutely hilarious.
A little awkward. A little bit, a little bit, a little bit. So I am totally up in there. I could
see it as any of those three dudes. If you feel it's Jailen Waddle, I will turn key for Jailen Waddle.
So here's why I've talked myself into Waddle.
Apart from the fact that this is sort of like the prevailing consensus is that
Waddle is the guy here is if you look at this offense,
they have Devonte Parker, Preston Williams,
and then they signed Will Fuller to a one-year contract and free agency.
And then they have Micahisiki kind of like in the middle of the field.
If you look at this offense,
like Waddle would really good compliment to that skill group
because he's the kind of guy who can move around the formation.
He can get, you know,
get yards after the catch,
do all that stuff.
He brings an element of speed
that is very attractive,
I'm sure,
to the dolphins.
And adding him and together
with an offense with Will Fuller
is like immediately you're one of the fastest offenses
in the NFL.
Couldn't you argue that also
that getting Will Fuller and free agency
is also kind of planning
to not take a waddle in the draft?
I would say that if they had signed him
to a multi-year deal,
but it's a one-year deal.
Yeah.
It's one of those things where this is a,
I think the,
if anything,
the Fuller is a, it's like a hedge for them not having to take a receiver or not having to take Waddle.
But at the end of the day, like I said, I just think this is going to be the pick.
I think they like the speed element.
They think he can be a Tyree kill type field tilter for their offense and really take some pressure off at Tua,
make defenses respect the deep ball a little bit more, open things up underneath, help things with their run game.
I think overall they see this guy as a, you know, a game changer from the sense that it changes the way defense is
to defend them.
All right.
I'm turning my key for Waddle.
You turning your key?
Turn your key.
Let's do it.
All right.
Let's do it.
Boom.
Okay.
Lions at seven.
So Albert Breer at money at SI wrote that the lion, quote, the lines of the team in the top ten hungriest for a trade down.
End quote.
So they're hard to read.
They have a new coach, the guy who Dan Campbell who did the kneecap biting and taking
to take hunks out of you.
I love that speech.
New GM.
New advice.
They have like a whole new brain trust in Detroit.
Yeah.
Hard to read.
What do you think they're going to do here?
Yeah, I think they're
Yeah, they're one of those ones
Because it's very difficult
It's very difficult to want to figure out
Because they could take a quarterback
Or they could trade back
It's like one of those situations where
It's there's no way
I will not turn key in quarterback here
Why do you feel so strongly?
They traded for Goff
That should be your argument for them taking a quarterback
No, the new GM came from the Rams
The new GM from the Lions
traded for the Goff because he still believes in golf
I don't think they're going to take a quarterback here
And also I don't think they'd be the hungriest team
to trade down
if they wanted a quarterback.
So I think they're going position player.
I think that if you just look at the kind of guys they hired,
I think of two things.
One, I think that Michael Parsons for Penn State,
even though I don't actually like him as a prospect,
I think makes sense just for the mentality of player
that they seem to describe,
like ethos of the city and like tough, hard-nosed football.
I could see them in Chris Bealman, who was a linebacker.
I could see him, I could see the Lions just trying to take a linebacker
with that first pick to establish an identity, so to speak.
Right.
I also feel like
I feel like they also could just take Sewell
if they can't trade down here.
Yeah, yeah.
Are we going to do trades here?
I think we can say we're allowed to do trades.
I think that if there's going to be a trade here,
it's the Broncos trade, a mid-round pick,
like a third or a second to just move up two spots
and get into this spot.
That's the TMIC happening.
I feel like didn't we hear something like the George Patton,
the George Peyton.
Peyton, sorry.
There's no.
why it's fine.
General Pat, yeah, yeah.
So George Peyton, I believe he said he has yet to call teams to trade up.
Yeah, that doesn't.
That's bizarre.
That's the one thing that's screaming up here.
Yeah, that doesn't mean they're not going to trade up, but it would be an indication
that they're not looking to.
I think we should, like, honestly, like we can do this now or we can do it later.
I think the Patriots are trading up.
And I think this is a good spot to do it.
So do you think they're calling a seven?
Who are they bidding against?
That's my question for you for the trade up here.
They're bidding.
And we can take some time here.
Well, you know, theoretically, they're,
bidding against ever, but we kind of just establish
maybe they're not. So that's the thing.
George Payton said they haven't had any calls.
Now, on one hand, why should we believe him? On the other hand,
I kind of believe him. And so a lot of these deals, the frameworks of them are made
beforehand. Like they're discussed over time. And then when they're actually on the
clock, they're hacking over like a third rounder here, a fifth rounder at the end.
Like the 80% of the deal, the broad outline is kind of established.
And then it's kind of like last minute hacking. Again, kind of like fantasy football
sometimes. You don't just do a blockbuster in like 10 seconds.
seconds. So if the Broncos haven't really seriously discussed moving up, it kind of makes me think
they don't love these guys. You know what I mean? And we can take about his word for right now.
And if Broncos aren't going to move up, who are the Patriots bidding against? Because the other
teams here, the Panthers just had Darnold. I don't think that they're bidding. The Cowboys
have DAC. They gave DAC a lot of money. The Giants are all in Daniel Jones. The Eagles have
Jalen Hertz and maybe could, but Jeffrey Lurie, the owner of the Eagles says they want to give
Jailen Hertz a shot. The charges have Herbert. The Vikings are locked into Kirk Cux.
the Patriots are 15.
I don't see who the Patriots are bidding against.
You know what I mean?
Well, in theory, they're bidding against the Bears, Washington,
and any other team, like maybe Pittsburgh,
a Dark Horse team that could come up very far.
So what they're doing is they're bidding to get ahead of these other teams
that could be trading up.
However, I'm kind of with you.
The more we talked to, the more I think actually that might be too big of a jump,
like a bridge too far for the Patriots.
You know who I do think could trade up here?
and I think it's actually pretty realistic is the Chargers.
If Sewell falls past Miami, I think the Chargers, everything that we've been hearing
is the Chargers love Sewell and obviously getting him back with Justin Herbert,
give him like his blindside protector for life or whatever.
It makes a ton of sense.
The Chargers are basically a Super Bowl roster.
They have, they're like a left tackle away from being a legit Super Bowl roster, like in theory.
You know, it's the Chargers, but still, I kind of want to have the Chargers trade up right.
here. I can mess with it.
Yeah, actually, I'm down with that. I'll turn key.
So the chargers, the chargers are at number 13.
According to the Jimmy Johnson trade chart, which is, it's just a baseline.
There's about a 450 point difference, let's say, between the Detroit spot and the charger
spot seven and 13.
The Chargers second rounder could get this deal done.
Yeah, I'm down with that.
And their second round pick, move up to number seven, take Sewell, be set.
for the next five, seven, ten years, left tackle,
reunite Herbert and Sewell.
I think it just makes too much sense.
And I think Detroit, like I said,
I think you said, like,
Detroit is looking to, like, set the foundation.
They're going to want to get a few more picks.
I think they're in a great spot to trade back.
And they don't trade back that far.
I mean, at 13, they're still there to get some really good players.
So, okay.
So lines of the seventh pick traded to the charges for the 13th pick and a seven
and a second rounder,
chargers take Pinaisouille, left action.
Morgan. Best tackle in the draft. I like it. Turnkey. Let's turn key.
Let's do it. Click. Click. Yeah. Click's cute. What happened by blue. I guess it's better my poop or whatever it is. Okay.
Panthers are here at eight. Yep.
Everyone wants to trade down. I don't think anyone can trade down anymore.
Honestly, maybe the Patriots will move up at some point for one of these dudes because Lance and Justin Fields are still on the board here.
The Panthers had all defenders in the draft last year. Literally the first time ever in NFL this week, took only defenders in the draft.
here's my question or here's i'm going to give you a fact and then i'll ask you what this means
do you think it's notable that the team has an officially acknowledged or reported that they're
picking up darnell's option for 2020 does that keep them in the running i think it means nothing
i mean nothing you just don't give out a free piece of information to your competitors
ahead of time but i think it means nothing they telegraph i think that darnell trade was a telegraph
they paid a second rounder for them they're going to pick up because here's if they draft a quarterback
you still have to pick up the option because if they draft a quarterback then what the hell did you
give up the second rounder for Darnold for.
To have one year of a good backup, it doesn't really make sense to me.
And if you want to be like, oh, we'll throw Darts at a quarterback.
Could they still take a quarterback?
Yes.
But I just don't know what's going to happen.
You're talking about the owner, David Tapper, hedge fund guy.
That would be a good hedge.
I mean, you're getting Darnold this year.
You're getting Darnold this year.
If he pans out, that's awesome.
You could either trade him or keep him.
And then obviously, if you take, say, Trey Lance here, he needs a year to sit behind, you
know, Darnold, and then you have a good problem that you have two good quarterbacks.
I don't think that's going to happen, but I'm just, I'm just saying, like, that's,
if you're in the room, my honest belief is the Panther Scouts compared notes with the 2018
evaluation of Darnold and decided that Darnold was rated higher than whatever quarterback
would be available at this number eight pick. So why not just trade a second rounder for
Donald? That's the, and they're like, well, the Jets suck and they ruined him. He's the same
player. Let's just take the second round of frame. And he's also like the same age as some of these
quarterbacks. Exactly. I think gun to my head, I think this is, I think this is Rishan Slater,
Northwestern. Just another tackle. What went wrong with Donald was protection and they're going to
protect them. That's my, that's my. So, but I'm not sold. Yeah, I mean, I guess like, yeah,
I think there's a chance they look to trade back. Um, but I do think all things considered,
yeah, Slater is going to be highly, highly rated on their board. Some people, I've heard that there's
reports been that he's actually higher on some boards than Penny Sewell, which is kind of crazy.
But yeah, I'm going to go with Slater.
Actually, this is who I had my mock this morning.
So let's just do it.
Turnkey.
All right.
Slater to the Panthers turnkey.
Okay.
Broncos are here.
Two quarterbacks are still on the board.
Trey Lance Justin Fields.
What do you think happens, D.K.?
I think they're going to take Trey Lance.
So I don't know, have like a strong opinion on why they would lean Lance over Fields.
but for whatever reason.
Maybe it's just like all the,
I guess like the hype or whatever that Lance is falling.
Teams aren't seen him,
you know,
as highly talented or like as much of a can't miss prospect
as a lot of draft Twitter like me sees him.
I guess maybe that's why,
but I just think it's going to be Trey Lance.
I think I've heard, you know,
sort of like the word on the street is they like Lance a lot.
So they did go to his pro day.
And they have Locke,
So they can do like a, they could do like a legit competition this year.
And if, if Locke wins, that's great, whatever, then they have Lance sit for a year.
If not, then, you know, they have Lance.
So I think it's-part of me thinks Trey Lance could slide out of the first round,
but part of me wants to turn key right with you right now and just say Trey-Lans to the Broncos at 9.
I kind of think you're right.
He's definitely not falling out of the first round.
I think, I will turn key with you right now, Lance to the bank goes.
All right.
Okay.
That brings up down.
This one should be easy.
Patrick Sertain, cornerback from Alabama to the Cowboys.
Yes, it's chalk, but I mean, they definitely need it.
They gave up in a million yards, a million touchdowns last year.
Certain is, in my opinion, the best corner in this class, length, speed, athleticism, everything.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's turn key here.
Cowboys, Patrick Certain.
Done.
Giants are number 11.
Okay.
This is immensely stressful.
Are we getting into trade back territory for the Giants yet?
No, no, no, they're not going to trade back.
Dave Gettleman said, oh, I've tried, but like, you know, no one get fleeced.
It's because, look, Dave Gettleman is Lucille Bluth, RIP, Jessica Walters.
Dave Gettleman, he's a good scout and a terrible manager.
He doesn't want to price anything.
It's just like, how much could have banana cost?
$10?
Dave Gellman's like, how much defensive tackle cost?
$23 million a year for Leonard Williams?
Yeah, he does no idea.
It's like they're paying Kenny Gowaday, $19 million a year,
like the eighth most money for a receiver in a year where all the receivers didn't get paid
very much money at all.
It's like he's just in his own world, price-wise.
So the idea of trading down is ridiculous, quite frankly.
It's just, I don't think that.
There's five other teams that want to trade down.
The idea of Dave Gettleman getting the lowest, sorry, I just opened a vein.
Peter King wrote this morning, quoting him, I've heard Joe Judge loves Devante Smith,
the organization likes cornerback J.C. Horn a lot.
And Dave Gettelman loves Michael Parsons.
I full, that tracks.
All of it tracks.
Okay.
Yeah.
I feel the most infuriating pick the Giants could make is Micah Parsons.
Because what everyone says about Michael Parsons, he sees an amazing athlete at linebacker,
and he's an amazing pass rusher.
But he's not an outside linebacker.
He's an inside linebacker.
He's supposed to cover people.
Guess what Penn State didn't really have him do?
Cover people.
I don't really understand how you can be a top 10 pick as a linebacker in the NFL
draft or top 11 and not have like established cover skills.
this will infuriate me.
That's why I'm convinced the Giants will do.
Yeah, we got to go at this.
I think we do.
Turn K. Micah Parsons to the Giants?
Yeah, it makes too much sense.
I just, it will bug me, and that's why it will happen.
Eagles, I feel like if Devante Smith is there at 12, the Eagles will take Devante Smith.
If they don't take him and he's there at 12, there's going to be riot.
Like, the Eagles fans will be irate.
This is the one thing.
Peter King actually brought this.
up on New York, New York with John
Dostremski, which was a good point, which is that the Giants
would be letting Devante Smith fall to the
Eagles. And also, obviously, Joe Judge worked
at Alabama and has, like, Alabama connections.
So, like, it would be pretty wild.
But I feel like if Devonthe Smith gets the Eagles, it cannot
let him go. So I'm willing to turnkey on
Devontersmith. Like, Howard Roseman, straight up, it's not even
about football anymore. It's like, he's trying to avoid a storming
of the Bastille, but, like, at Lincoln Financial,
but he just will be overrun.
You can't have Justin Jefferson 2.0
happen right here. They have to take DeVante Smith.
I think so.
And it makes sense for them schematically.
Like he can play all over the formation.
To me, he is more of a number one receiver, a quote, a go-to guy than Jalen Rager,
to me is more like he's a field tilter type guy who can like everywhere he lines up.
He brings like the threat of scoring, but he's not a true number one where you're going to
like win one-on-one on the outside type thing where DeMonte Smith is that guy.
So it makes sense like he's going to compliment the weapons that they have with that they have in Philly.
he's going to help Jalen Hertz, who, by the way, was DeMonte Smith's cheap teammate for a while.
And I think it'll just, it just all makes a lot of sense to me.
Let's recap the top 12 picks so far.
We have Trevor Lawrence of Clemson going to Jacksonville.
We have Zach Wilson from BYU, quarterback going to the Jets.
We have Alabama quarterback Mac Jones going to the Niners.
We have Florida tight end Kyle Pitts going to the Falcons, tight end, whatever position he is.
Receiver, Jemar Chase, LSU, go to the Bengals.
We've got Jalen Waddle from Alabama going to the Dolphins.
and then we have the Chargers trading up with Detroit at 7
and the Chargers taking Penae Sewell,
the left tackle from Oregon.
We have the Panthers taking another offensive tackle
over Sean Slater from Northwestern.
We have the Broncos sitting spat
and taking Trey Lance from North Dakota State
to play quarterback.
We have the Cowboys taking cornerback,
Patrick Sertane from Alabama.
Giants taking Micah Parsons linebacker
from Penn State solely to infuriate me.
Eagles taking Devonte Smith from Alabama,
receiver Heisman winner just to, as you said,
avoid stoking a riot
or something in Philadelphia.
Lions are on the clock after they traded back.
What do you think the Lions would do at 13 DK?
This is, yeah, this is tough.
So I still kind of think they're going to be looking for offensive line just because of
the knee-biting, like, ethos and the toughness.
Maybe, do you think that maybe they look at edge or, I mean, I don't think interior
defensive line.
Interior defensive line is a bridge too far.
I think there's not enough guys at the spot to make it worthwhile.
I could see an edge.
we've been hearing a lot of buzz for USC's Elijah Vera Tucker.
And he's the type of guy who brings the versatility to basically play anywhere on the line other than maybe center.
I think he could be a guard and start and be good from day one.
He could play right tackle to start out.
And then, you know, whether it happens with Taylor Decker long term, maybe move him to less side eventually.
But I think it just makes a lot of sense.
You know, Dan Campbell, Anthony Lynn, they're going to want to run the ball.
They're going to want to be balanced.
They're going to want to protect Jared Gough.
I'm leaning Vera Tucker here.
Do you have any other guys like in mind?
I think Christian Derrissau from Virginia Tech
is the other guy that I have in mind.
But I think Verit Tucker,
just because of his versatility,
his,
you know,
just technical prowess as a blocker.
I think it makes a lot of sense.
No,
I agree.
I think that that makes sense.
I'm willing to turnkey,
Verit Tucker to their lines.
All right,
let's do it.
Okay,
so that puts the Vikings up at 14.
The Vikings are probably pissed
because a lot of people
have Verit Tucker growing up in Vikings.
Here's my,
pitch for you, D.K. Patriots are at 15. I think
that teams trading up to seven with the lions was like, it's too far,
but I do think 14 is suddenly very in range for the bears to start calling.
I think the Patriots, because the Vikings are actively trying to trade down from this 14
spot. We, Albert Pereer and Peter King have both reported that.
I think the Patriots trade like a third rounder, move up one spot
with the Vikings and take Justin Fields.
Oh my gosh. Just
Just to close the door on like the bears or anyone trying to swoop in for Fields.
It doesn't feel like a Patriots thing that they would do that, but I do think it makes sense for them to do that.
If Fields falls as far, they absolutely got to do whatever they can do to get him 100%.
So I guess this is the offseason of Patriots doing things that don't feel very patriotsy.
And that would make a lot of sense, I guess, to...
They traded up in the first round before.
That's true, but it's, I don't know.
It's just like the idea of trading up one.
it always to me feels like the team is basically just fleecing you if you trade up one spot
they're just basically like holding you hostage and the Patriots aren't a team that would
typically fall for that but I agree this is a weird offseason they there's a call to
swap they get back like three weird sixth round competitive picks I think they absolutely need to do
if this actually happened and Justin Fields is sitting there then they absolutely should do this
100%. So yeah let's do it. I this is a pageant.
Trade up, take Fields.
All right.
So they trade up to 14, one spot,
throw them like a fourth rounder.
Turnkey?
Yeah.
And the NFL gets exactly what they deserve
for letting Fields fall this far.
This is wild.
That's the thing.
So if Fields doesn't go to the Patriots,
how far is Fields going to fall?
If he gets past the Patriots,
which I really doubt will happen,
either Washington or Chicago will take him.
So can I throw out one team?
This is absolute baseless speculation on my part.
But the one team,
if you just look at it,
the teams that
what, basically,
what if the Patriots
don't want fields?
We all assume they do.
But let's say that they don't.
Where could he go?
The one team that's missing,
so there's Washington and Chicago
and we've discussed
as the Steelers,
the other team here,
I wonder if John Gruden
would have a hard time
passing Justin Fields up in the draft.
Derrick Carr has two years left
in his contract.
Basically no guaranteed money left.
They could cut Derrick Carr like tomorrow.
Not that they would.
He's on a very reasonable deal.
It's very tradable.
That's basically what I'm saying.
Now, there's not a lot of teams
that could really take on Derrick Carr that made sense.
The only one that does is Denver
and their division rivals.
So it never happened.
Right.
But Derrick Carr is very easily moved.
And I do think that if Justin Fields gets to the Raiders at 17,
I feel like there is a very frank conversation in that,
in that Vegas headquarters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's kind of the spot I'm looking at.
I agree with you.
But I think the Patriots take them.
So we'll turn key Patriots, move up to 14, get Justin Fields.
Vikings at 15.
What do you think they do here?
I think they go.
It's funny because I've given,
I feel like I've given the Vikings
multiple different players
and mock drafts over the last few weeks
and they're never very excited about it.
I'm going to go offensive line
because number one,
you know, this is a trouble spot for them.
And I think they do have basically a need
at left tackle.
I think Christian Derosol makes perfect sense for him.
So the fact that he falls this far
I think is a great thing for the,
the Vikings, I think he's a, I think I have him as my number three tackle in this class.
So he's a really good player.
This is a steal for the Vikings, especially after trading back one spot and picking up an extra
pick or whatever.
Yeah, lock it in, Derrissau.
I agree.
Okay.
Arizona Cardinals now up at 16.
I feel like if J.C.
Horn, the cornerback from South Carolina has fallen as far.
J.
J.
Horen's really popular.
I feel like they would snatch J.C.
Horn in a second.
This one seems like a no-brainer.
I've seen mock drafts.
I think Peter Schreger had them trading up for.
J. C. Horn and one.
He's had him trading up for
Waddle also. So I think
wide receiver could be on the board here because
from different reports I've seen,
the Cardinals still want to keep putting
offensive weapons around
their quarterback and just get that
offense going. Kyler, you know, he's
definitely been good as a runner, but he needs to improve
as a pass or all that stuff.
End of the day, though, they need corners.
You know, I think J.C. Horn is a player that's been very
frequently connected to them and it makes a lot of sense.
He's a very good player.
Okay.
So now we got, so we're turnkey on the Cardinals, turnkey on J.C.
Horn?
Yeah, that one seems like a no-brainer.
All right.
Raiders at 17.
I would love if they took a quarterback, but realistically, they could, I don't know,
what do you think they're going to do?
I feel like they could use an edge rusher.
Yeah.
They really need a right tackle, but Christian Derrissau just went.
And this is a very realistic situation for them of needing an attack.
Right.
And all the good tackles kind of going ahead of them.
So basically them kind of having to turn
and take the first edge rusher off the board
almost out of necessity
though they sign Yonagawa Free Agency.
It's kind of crazy to think about
that we could get to 17
with zero edge rushers off board.
Is that right? Is that right? We've done that.
Yeah, but I think that kind of makes sense.
I think it's wildly different grades
on the edge rushers this year.
Yep. Yep. 100%.
Because they all have a strange red flag.
You know what I mean? Like Quitty Pay is athletic
but has not that much production.
Jason away.
Literally had zero sacks last year.
like Gregory Usoe has seven games of rushing the passer
and then Jalen Phillips is the best talented guy in the class
and medically retired.
Like they're all just bizarre.
Having said that, if the Raiders are going to edge rush here,
who would they take?
Who are you lean in?
I feel like Quitty Pay to me feels like a Mike Mayock pick.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know why.
I don't know why, but I just feel like he's got the measurables.
He's got the athleticism.
He's a power player.
Put him on that line.
with, you know, like he said,
they've had a couple, like, high picks, like,
and then a mid-rounder Crosby, who was really good, I think.
And then Clemend Farrell, he's been, like, okay, but not great.
You get him on that line with Ingakway,
and that really, like, turns, like a,
what had been a weakness into a very real strength for the Raiders.
And in that division, I think you have to have fast-rushers.
So I'll go with Quitty Pay here.
I think it's a good call.
Okay, let's turn key there and Quitty Pay to the Raiders at 7th,
18, we have the dolphins having
another pick here.
The Dolphins, so one, they could
just go running back, honestly.
Najee Harris or Travis E.N.
But I'm also wondering if you think they could
take a pass rusher. I think that
this could be like the little pass rusher run here.
Yeah. I think that this
is literally a spot where you could take anybody.
They're just, really could just
go like a player, best player available.
In my mock draft.
They really need pass rushing, though. They don't
have much. So,
in my last maca though I gave them
quidipay so he's off the board now
I do think that edge rusher is a option here
but I
kind of want to give them
I kind of want to give him Travis E.TN
I think they might do that too
I kind of think they will do that honestly
think about just funny you say that
think about it think about it from
their point of view obviously
we know it's a long conversation
about how running pack is
overrated in the first round, you don't do it, blah, blah, blah.
I don't think NFL teams necessarily think that way,
and their history has told us that they don't think that way, always.
But think about this.
They got Jalen Waddle with their first first rounder,
who is one of the most explosive players in college football.
And then you add Travis ETN with their second first rounder,
who is one of the most explosive players in college football.
He scored like 70-something touchdowns.
Just gives them an element that basically
no other running back in this class could give them.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's like the smartest move,
but I feel like it's a move that they could make.
And I actually,
I'm willing to do that with you.
I actually think that that,
I think that this would surprise people,
but I think it makes a lot of sense for them.
All right.
I'm willing to do it.
Turn key Travis E.
E.N.
Waddle and E.N.
They're fast.
Now they're fast.
They got Will Fuller Waddle and E.
That would kind of fun.
Do it, baby.
Okay.
So we got Washington at 19 now.
I think that all their fans are hoping for a lineman,
but Vera Tucker doesn't follow them like everyone wants.
So, man, I feel like, could they reach for Tevin Jenkins?
I feel like Tevin Jenkins isn't play for them, honestly.
They really need alignment.
Yeah, it's all the, I feel like his stock is kind of all over the map.
He could be a mid-first-rounder.
He could fall out of the first round if things broke a certain way.
I doubt that'll happen.
I think he's going to be first-rounder.
The guy that I've been connecting them to frequently is Jeremiah Usu-Koramoa,
the linebacker out of Notre Dame,
who,
you know,
I think there is,
there is some buzz.
They like him.
He's a very explosive defender,
flies around.
I comped him to Jamal Adams.
His ability to play in multiple different places.
The thing that I kind of like about this fit is,
Washington has an elite front seven.
Like they have an elite front line.
They can keep him clean and let him just kind of like roam around and do his thing.
That's very generalized,
you know,
it's not very specific.
for like their scheme and everything but like his ability like the thing that you worry about the most with him i think is like
coming down in the box and having to take on blocks and stuff but like if you have that dominant defensive line
a lot of times he's just going to be able to like roam free around there and i think that's his strength
that would be a perfect fit for him and you know Washington has that elite front line that front seven but
get him in there and he's going to play more like a hybrid safety um linebacker role so you can count him as like the
like a backline type guy.
I think that would just be perfect to kind of fill out their roster,
fill out that defense,
gives them another playmaker.
So that's where I've been leaning,
but I'm not like super strong on that.
I think that makes sense.
Fans will be reticent about that because they had his tweener with Suea Cravens,
but I think that he's quite frankly,
like Ousikoramo is better.
I'm down for that turn.
Yeah,
that's a different one.
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, let's do it.
It was a quorumoa to the football team.
All right, we got the bears up at 20.
This is where Kyle Brandt
Last time we did the
Like the fan mock
Kyle Brand shocked the world
It took Davis Mills
Davis Mills
I love that was just to troll everyone
Or maybe it's just him hoping
I feel like the Bears
Oh man
They need a lot
I honestly
Part of me is like they cut
Kyle Fuller this year
And I'm wondering if they go
A quarterback or Edge
Yeah
So I think this pick comes down to
Most of the time
I've been feeling
that it's either going to be a receiver or an offensive lineman, a tackle.
However, you can make an argument for corner, for sure.
And Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech, is still out there.
And he's a guy that talent-wise is one of the best corners in this draft.
But he comes with the injury concerns.
He had a surgery on his back.
And it's been a problem multiple times in the past.
The teams are maybe going to be very reticent to take a risk on him in the first round.
He might follow the first round completely.
I don't think he's going to be the pick right here.
I've been leaning
Tevin Jenkins from Oklahoma
at the right tackle spot
give them a guy
because like look
well actually I think a receiver
I think that makes a lot of sense
a receiver here could be very good too
like Bateman
I don't know
do you lean one way or another
I think Kevin Jenkins
I think Tevin Jenkins makes a lot of sense
for the Bears here
yeah because look
Andy Dalton has
as a quarterback has been sort of like
the product of his surroundings right
like he can play at a high level
when he has a very good team around him
and he can kind of like captain that offense,
but he's not going to elevate an offense.
And so they need to either get some talent,
elite talent at receiver and keep batting there
or get an offensive line that's going to keep him clean.
So that's the two directions they could go here.
I like them,
I like them going with Jenkins.
He's highly athletic.
He's a mauler type guy,
you know,
at the right tackle spot.
He could play left tackle.
He has some experience at left tackle,
but I think he probably fit best at right tackle.
And yeah,
I think this makes a lot of sense.
for them. All right, let's do it.
Tevin Jenkins are the Bears. Turn
key. Key turn.
Mm-hmm. All right. Colts
are up at 21.
I think it's edge. They probably are pissed.
Tevin Jenkins is gone. I think, yeah, I think edge.
There's also, it's, I don't think that they reach for anybody, but
there's just value here. I feel like they take
Jaylon Phillips. Yeah, I was going to say, to
me, it comes down to Aziz Ojilari, who's a little bit
undersized, but explosive has good length.
Jalen Phillips, who is probably the most talented
passed rush in this class. But as you mentioned, he retired medically from
football earlier in his career. You know, he's very passionate about music as the other
concern I've heard out there that like teams might be worried that he's more passionate and
loves music more than he loves football. Like these are all things that we don't know the answer
to like teams are going to have to do their digging. Teams care about that stuff though,
whether it's fair or not, teams care. So maybe it's, oh, do you think it's O'Jolari then?
No, I think it's Phillips. I think they like to, they like to, they like to,
take risks on talent.
And I think Phillips has talent.
Yeah.
I agree.
He's the most talented guy.
I think,
yeah,
I think they're looking at it as a top five or six talent and just getting in a
minute discount for question.
He's,
he's legit a top 10 talent who's going to fall a little bit because of the injury
situation.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's do it.
Turnkey.
Jalen Phillips Miami Pass rush to the Colts.
All right.
22.
Got the Titans.
Yep.
Peter King wrote in this week,
I think quote,
I think GM John Robinson might have to take two whiteouts who are whiteouts who are
whiteout and a tight end the first three rounds of the draft.
I agree. I think Rashad Bateman making it to Tennessee
is a gift for them, honestly.
I think it's a perfect. I think it's perfect, too.
I think they would pull trigger on Rashad Bateman.
Bateman.
Which is good.
Minnesota receivers amazing.
So awesome.
Yeah, I love this. I love this.
All right, let's do it. Turnkey Rashad Bateman to the Titans.
Yep.
All right. We're back to the Jets here at 23.
This is the pick they got from Seattle. Sorry, D.K.
Here's how I look at it.
It's, again, it's not like, I think that the Jets could go
cornerback here or edge rusher.
They signed Carl Austin defensive end away from the Bengals and free agency.
But one, there's the medical stuff with Caleb Farley.
I do think all the guys with medical stuff will fall to some degree.
Yeah, yeah.
I also think that the Jets just need edge rushers more than they need cornerbacks.
They really need both.
But in Robert Salas defense, again, he had five first round picks in the defensive
line in San Francisco.
It's not like all those cornerbacks are just magically great for them.
I think that there's a force multiplier of having more good defensive ends and pass
fresher. And also I think there's better value here. I don't know. I feel like
OJolari probably is the guy here for the Jets. That's who I had in my mind. So I think we're
in agreement there. I think that makes a ton of sense. He kind of reminds me of Carl
Austin in fact. So that would make sense from their, I guess, like evaluation point of view.
All right. Steelers. So let's turnkey. OJolardi of the Jets. Yep. Steelers. I, you know what?
This one's tough. I don't think it's smart. I think they take Najee Harris at this pick.
I kind of
I kind of do too man
and like I think it makes more sense
for them to take another offensive lot
but I think I think if like
what we think will happen here
I think it's Nadja Harris to the Steelers
yeah I mean in my last mock
I had zero running backs going the first round
but I'm beginning to think that
NFL teams are going to think differently than I am
so yeah I'm gonna I agree with you
I think Najee Harris like the way that he plays
in the passing game too I think they're going to value that
you know especially with like Big Ben
in this part of his
career where he's going to be checking down a lot.
Relying on that running back as an outlet option,
you know,
Harris has definitely proven himself in that area.
So it makes some sense,
I guess,
from that point of view.
People are going to freak out about it,
but yeah,
I can see the Steelers doing this.
Okay.
Turnkey, Naja Harris to the Steelers.
Jaguars are up at 25.
So they took Trevor Lawrence with the first pick.
Here's the thing.
Urban Meyer has said he wants a top four pass rush in the NFL.
I believe in for college,
he always wanted a top five pass rush.
he also the guy in the front office of the jaguars trent balky also just likes having multiple
pass rushers so they have josh allen and they already and they have i'm sorry the guy from lsu i
can't pronounce his name kvon chison oh kalevon chason yeah chason great name for edge rusher i'm
not a hundred percent sure on that one but yeah well great anyway the point is that they need
another pass rusher and i think that it aligns with value and actually what they're looking for
which is always kind of what you want to see in a mock.
And again,
throwing a third,
Urban Meyer said,
I think it was his opening press conference.
My vision,
my dream is always to be the fastest team on the field,
end quote.
I think that they take a guy here.
What do you think of them taking Carlos Basham?
That was a guy who I definitely had on my radar.
I think the dark horse here
would be Jason O.A. from Penn State.
Because he's Tusi and like Irma.
Because coaches see guys who,
so Jason O.A.
Didn't have any sacks last year,
which is like,
you know,
red flag.
But coaches see stuff as like,
it's like you're holding a hammer everything looks like a nail.
You're a coach.
You just see a guy not doing anything.
Well, if I was coach you,
I mean,
it'd be better.
And that's kind of,
so I'm between Jason away and Greg Russo here.
Because Russo has,
again,
seven games from like 2019 on its resume and opted out for 2020.
But I think away from Penn State actually makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
I think they can afford to,
not afford to because they need every,
they need good players.
But like with so many picks in the first in the first like top 100 picks or whatever,
they can afford to take a little bit of a risk here.
He's still going to be productive.
He was productive, pressures, all that stuff.
He just wasn't getting on the board with sacks.
I mean, the dude ran a 4-3 at like 257 pounds.
He's ridiculous.
And I don't think that's going to get out of the first round.
So I think he is the pick here.
I do, like, if it's not him, I do think it's going to be defensive lineman, though.
I think it makes sense.
Okay, turnkey, Jaguars, Jason away.
Mm-hmm.
All right, 26, got the Browns.
I have no idea.
Because the Browns don't need anything.
They don't really have glaring holes in this team.
Like need need, yeah.
They need an edge rusher, but I don't think there's an edge rusher here that's so amazing.
They have to reach for one, quite frankly.
I kind of like the Zaven Collins one here.
This has been a popular one for me.
I'm not sure how Browns fans would feel about that.
But like he's sort of an old school guy because he's like 260, 270 pounds,
but he can also come off the edge and rush.
Big shoulder pads guy.
Oh, yeah.
And he's like just a playmaker instinctive.
You know, he flies around.
Very like good athlete.
They can use them in multiple different ways.
I think when like this is like exactly what you said is I don't have a strong like view on the position they're going to be looking at.
I really think they could take anything.
Corner receiver wouldn't surprise me.
Defensive line wouldn't surprise me edge.
So maybe honestly does that mean it's Caleb Farley?
Because he's probably the highest rated guy left.
No, I don't think so because greedy Williams.
has been having issues with injuries.
Oh, and they take another cornerback.
Yeah, hi.
They don't want to,
I don't think they're going to want to take another corner that has injury issues.
So that would be the reason I think you're probably right about that.
I think we just,
really,
I don't know.
I'm just going to go to Zaven-Kon-Kon-Kins because I think he's not going to fall much further than this.
All right.
I don't know.
It's kind of like,
to me,
it's like he needs to go at some point.
It's like the,
the Mel Khyber thing.
Just got to get him off the board at some point.
Get him off the board.
No, I think you're right.
Okay, the Ravens.
the Ravens.
So they,
the Ravens,
by the way,
they made a big trade
over the weekend,
traded away Orlando Brown,
the right tackle,
and they picked up
a first round pick
from Kansas City.
It's like a,
a whole bunch of other stuff
involved.
Basically,
now they have two
first round picks.
So we got to figure out
what they need,
and then we got to figure out
the order of which
they're going to take these guys.
What's your first thought?
The Ravens don't look at things
the same way other people
look at things,
to be clear.
Like, you look at the Ravens,
and you see a team
that, I mean, again, this is...
Again, they took Hayden Hearst as a tight end,
and then they took Lamar with the 32nd thing.
They just...
They evaluate guys differently.
Yeah, yeah.
So, on paper, they need
another receiver, an edge rusher,
and a right tackle.
But the GM, Eric DeCosta has come out and said,
basically, I do not...
He says, quote, we've got some really good young receivers.
It's insulting to these guys when they hear we don't have any receivers.
It's quite insulting. I'm insulted by it, too, to be honest.
End quote.
So, there's that.
They have taken Markis Brown in the first round.
They just signed Sammy Watkins.
They have a couple of the really fast guys.
They're all young.
So I don't know when he says that strongly.
Probably not going to take a receiver in the first round.
A lot of people are mocking them Terris Marshall Jr. from LSU.
Peter King wrote this week, do not see them taking him.
Terrisals falling for, like, health stuff.
Yeah.
On paper, it seems like they need an edge rusher.
But part of me is wondering if they just say screw it and just take Trayvon Merrick
and just add another guy to their secondary.
Because he's probably like maybe the best player left.
that is definitely that's like that's not really an option I've thought about much but that that would make sense I mean they have such a talent and secondary all the time and they've always they have seemed to rely on like just like guys that can play multiple different spots instinctive players um you know I I don't know this is a really tough one I always have been I've been leaning defensive line with them I think I mean I have two I'm spitballing but I think if they're again they're edge rushers for none of the guys left in their roster the edge rushers had more than three sacks last year I think
year. Like they have no, it's honestly, this is probably going to be, if they don't draft a guy in
the first round, this will be the worst past rushing group in the history of the Baltimore
Ravens. It's not an exaggeration. Let's give him an edge rusher. So the guys who I like here
are Carlos Basham, Basham, from Wake Forest, Gregoruso from Miami, who I really can't get a good
grasp on like how the NFL feels about this guy. He opted out last year. I think they would go
Carlos Basham before they go. I think he makes a ton of. I think he makes a ton of, um, I think he makes a
ton of sense for them because, number one, he's big, he's physical, he's a bruiser.
I think he can play multiple spots on the defensive line.
He's an elite athlete.
He was pretty productive.
I think that there's just a lot of things that they would like about him.
You know, he plays with his hair on fire, that kind of stuff.
Like, he's just, I don't know, to me, he's one of the more underrated players in this draft.
I think he's going to be a first rounder.
So that's why I've been pairing with them, but I really, yeah, I really don't know.
Let's just go with Basham.
All right, Carlos Basham, the Ravens, Saints.
The Saints are always a wild card in the draft.
They could be, are they going to be the Farley one?
Are they going to pick Farley?
They're always the team that sort of just like seems to benefit from players falling for whatever reason.
I'm torn because on one hand the Saints are always thinking about now and how can they do stuff now.
They also cut Janores Jenkins at cornerback, but also they could also be looking at Greg Newsom, the Northwestern quarterback, who could sneak into the back of the first round.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That would be a good pick for them.
No, I think they take Caleb Farley.
I think they take Caleb Farley.
a really good player.
And the Saints just generally
just take really good players, to be honest.
Yeah.
I think it would make sense for them.
I mean, right now they've got,
their secondary, at least, is aging.
Patrick Robinson, Malcolm Johnson.
No, so they don't,
so the Saints' problem is that
they have a bunch of,
it's like Noah's Ark.
They have a bunch of singles.
They need pairs.
They don't really have a pair,
a pass rushing pair for Cam Jordan.
They don't really have another interior presence.
They have David on Yamada,
who's a good defensive tackle,
not really a guy with him.
And they have,
Marshall and Latimer is a good cornerback,
but they don't have another running mate.
They need something at like every level
of their defense, basically. But Caleb Farley
right here is like the best mix of need and value.
My gosh. Yeah, that would be cool. I think it's Caleb Farley.
I will turnkey. All right. Let's turnkey that.
I bet you he does sneak into the late first.
I mean, I've been having a hard time like
figuring out where he'll go. He might fall in the second, but
some team might. So if you were healthy, he's probably
a top 15 guy, but he's not. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I think the same thing is. Okay, Packers are 29.
Hmm.
This one's tough.
So I had Elijah Moore as sort of like circled here, but the problem is Packers generally
speaking are looking for a little bit bigger guys like at their, especially in the first
round.
So I don't know if that means.
Like bigger receivers or like bigger positions?
Yeah, like a bigger receiver.
I don't know if that means they for certain, for certain will pass on Elijah Moore.
And I don't think like you mentioned this before.
like Terrace Marshall is another guy
very much considered for them
over the last few months
but there's been reports
that he has some medical
concerns in the same vein
as like the Caleb Farley thing
where it might make him fall down boards
a little bit.
There was earlier on in the process
it was thinking,
the thought was that he could be a first rounder.
Now it's thought is very much that
he's very likely to fall
maybe into the late second
maybe into the third or whatever
because there's these injury issues
that teams are worried about.
In a year where
there's very little information
even with the combine medical recheck teams reporting there was reports earlier today that like teams are just like in the dark with a lot of these guys it's very frustrating so like guys with injury concerns could fall further than we even think so keep that in mind with the farley pick but um all that being said i don't i really don't know who they go here i i think that elizha more would be a great fit um but i've seen some pushback from packers fans who think that you know that's not really like their m o so i don't who do you think here
Maybe Newsom.
Maybe Greg.
This is a good spot for Greg Newsom.
I could see them taking Greg Newsom.
Yeah, I could.
Greg Newsom from the quarterback from Northwestern.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So let's see here.
They, they re-signed.
They have Jaya Alexander, a quarterback.
They have Jaya Alexander, who's a star.
And they re-signed Kevin King to, I believe, a one-year deal.
But obviously, or maybe, again, did you watch the N.CHAs fans do not.
Yeah, Packers fans are not happy about that.
If the Packers had more cornerback depth,
they really, really might have won the Super Bowl.
The thing about Kevin King,
and everyone saw like he had got burned four times in that game.
And basically,
it's not like any one game has decided
because they lost one thing,
but defensively that game swung on Kevin King.
The problem is not Kevin King.
He had a hamstring injury that week.
He gutted out to even play.
The problem is the Packers didn't have enough depth
to pull him off the field.
The fact that he could burn twice
and he's still out there the third time,
it's an organizational problem.
They need to go cornerback.
I think Greg Newsom makes a lot of sense for them.
He's a good player.
Turnkey, Greg Newsom, the Packers?
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Cornerback is, Bills, they're at 30.
Another team that honestly doesn't really have many needs.
But I think that generally speaking, Super Bowl contenders,
you just add pass rushers and you add cornerbacks.
And right now, I think the bills do need to add a pass rush.
I think Greg Rousseau makes a lot of sense for the Bills.
The Miami pass rusher.
I think the bills just kind of need a guy like that.
Yeah, I think it could make some sense.
I struggle with him
But yeah, I feel like the NFL is a little bit lower than on him
Than a lot of draft experts are
And he could follow the first round
But if there's a team that's going to take a chance
Because they're very good at coaching up
Like their defensive guys getting the most out of them
So I could see it
Like he's a rare prospect from length power, all that stuff
Well, it's weird because he worked really amazing
For the seven games he played
And then he opted out in 2020
And it's like
There's the old Bill Walshism of like
Don't tell me what someone
can do or can't do tell me what they can do and also it's like you see someone do it once you can
they can do it and so if they see them do it i feel like i feel like he i feel like he'll be a first
runner all right greg rousseau to the bills turnkey yeah yeah let's do it all right ravens this is the
ravens again pick the trade chiefs traded for alando brown so ravens are back on the clock here
offensive line maybe so they traded apparently after the draft they're going to sign
Alejandro Villanova,
former Steelers tackle.
However,
they still need
like long-term depth
and a long-term starter
there, right,
at all at right tackle.
So a couple of guys
that I've been looking at
for that spot,
Alex Leatherwood from Alabama.
I was also thinking of you.
Liam Eichenberg
from Notre Dame
is a potential,
I think,
guy that could sneak into the first round.
But I lean Leatherwood
just because,
number one,
obviously battle tested,
you know,
played for Alabama,
good athlete.
He looks the part in terms of like his size
and his physicality and all that.
I think he could be a real option there.
And also don't forget Ozzie Newsom
there's like,
because he went to Alabama and he was their GM for decades.
And obviously he's not running the team anymore,
but there's still a strong connection
between the Ravens and Alabama.
I could totally see.
Oh, so Leatherwood.
What an amazing name for an offensive lineman.
I love that.
I love that.
A plus name.
I think Leatherwood of the Ravens makes a ton of sense.
I think it does.
I do too.
I think it makes sense.
All right.
Turnkey.
Nail it in.
All right.
Bucks.
They could do anything here, really, right?
Yeah, I think just straight up they will take probably the player who's like on their board highest.
But I think that the question is Christian Barmore from Alabama.
He's falling due to what are the concerns?
The old, you see, coachable thing.
I don't know if that matters on a team with Tom Brady.
It seems like they've transcended the plane of like anyone can do anything.
And I feel like the Bucks would almost relish taking a player that the other 31 teams think can't be.
Also getting the only good defensive tackle in the draft.
I think the Bucks, as much as it's a.
Brady team. Bucks are really physical.
Like Sue and Pierre Paul and Shaq Barrett and Vita Vaya in the front line, if you were to add
Barmore to that and you were able to rotate because again, Vita Vaya, half of it's like, can
they keep him healthy? And if you're able to rotate these guys in, that team is freaking
scary. And also, I do think he's the only defensive tackle that could, he might be the only
defensive tackle was in the first two rounds, if not maybe the first three rounds. Like,
yeah, like, there's just a lot of reasons I think the Bucks would be interested here.
If you look at, yeah, I feel like, he's, yeah, I feel like, he's,
If you look at history, it's very, very rare for no offensive tackles to come off the board in the first round or even the first 15 picks of the draft.
So the fact that Barmore's still out there and I think he's, you know, maybe not the consensus top defensive tackle, but a lot of people would certainly have him there.
I think Levi on Uzareke from Washington's another guy that could be a potential option here.
Pair him back up with Vita Vaya.
That would be fun.
Do you think, oh, wow, you think they would go on Wuzerike?
That actually makes sense, too.
I think it would make a lot of sense for them.
He's a guy who, he played on the nose tackle spot a lot.
So he can like play really up on center or whatever if he wants.
But he's also, I think he's more naturally like a three tech.
You could rotate him in in multiple different spots, keep legs fresh.
Wow.
I think it makes a lot of huskies for them.
Okay.
So I'm down.
All right.
Turnkey.
So Levi on Woosurike to the Bucs 32nd.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
Amazing.
Wow.
Turnkey.
Wow.
Look at that.
The last turnkey.
Dude, we did it, man.
Oh my gosh. I think this is 32 out of 32, right? We did it. Perfect.
32 teams. Yeah, the Bucks won the Super Bowl. That's how you know. I don't know if you're new to this whole mock draft thing.
Yeah. Yeah. All right. What did you learn from this exercise? You've been doing mocks all year. We just did this live unrehearsed. We didn't know what we were going to do. What did you? We got three days till the draft. I can't count days. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
What did you learn doing this little exercise here? I think the biggest thing that I learned is I still have no freaking clue with the 49.
managers are going to do. And I think that's a big inflection. It's an inflection. Oh, my God.
Yeah. That's the thing. It's a huge like pivot point in the whole draft. So like what happens at
number three can change everything. There's like a million different, you know, it's like Dr.
Strange looking at the, looking at the all the different like realities that could happen. I have no
idea what's going to happen. If it's Jones or if it's Tray Lance or somehow it's fields at number three,
I still think that is just going to be the story of the draft. So that's what that's like my biggest
takeaways, I still just don't have any clue
what the 49ers are going to do. Well, here's what this
reiterated to me. We all
think and are hoping
for content purposes, I don't know, or just
we're bored, that the Patriots will trade up
for a quarterback. The thing I keep asking,
who are they bidding against?
Washington, Chicago. With getting darnled,
Washington, Chicago, in theory. But in reality,
it's also, again, if you're trading up for quarterback,
you're kind of married to it. Unless you're the Cardinals, and you're going
to dump Josh Rosen because you get the first
pick the next year, you're a regime that you're
marrying to this quarterback. If Washington
doesn't like Justin Fields,
they're not going to go up and just marry themselves
to him. And I feel the same way about Chicago.
You know what Chicago's front office isn't going to do?
Screw up a quarterback again. And again, we all like Fields,
but it does seem that the NFL is lower on him than
everyone else. So that's kind of my question is, who are the
Patriots bidding against? I feel like they don't have to
move up significantly. I think
that's just Justin Fields is going to fall.
I think that will be the story of draft night.
Is it Justin Fields or Trey Lance?
is going to fall, and it's kind of unfair
because the fifth quarterback in the draft
falling to like 15 or 16.
Is it really falling?
That's still five quarterbacks in the first 16 picks.
It's a lot.
But we've put so many expectations
on five guys in the top 10
that if it doesn't happen,
it'll be like some slap in the face.
I feel like two things can be true.
Not like you can be taken high
and also we're going to freak out and react
and act like, you know,
Tray Lance or Justin Fields
falling to the Patriots 15 naturally
or something is going to be
outrage.
And we're certainly perplexed by fields of it.
But I don't think there's going to have to be a significant trade up to seven for it to happen.
Yeah.
I think you might be right.
Like the Broncos, I can see the Broncos heading off a team at the past, but I don't know.
I don't think it's going to happen.
I think it'll be a little disappointing on the trade front on Thursday.
Well, that was actually one report that Peter King wrote in his thing.
It was like the 49ers gave up so much to move up to number three that it's, it's going to not,
it's going to basically other teams are not going to be willing to do what they did.
And so there could be fewer tradeups than what we're expecting.
So it's going to be weird.
We got our fireworks early.
Yeah.
All right.
D.K.
Thank you.
And again,
we don't even know if anyone of us will even be alive on Thursday.
So how could we possibly know what's going to happen, right?
Thank you, Kyle Shanhan and Nihilist.
Thank you, D.K.
Thank you to our producers, Isaiah Blakely and our Juno Ramgo, Pau.
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