The Ringer NFL Show - The (First) Ringer NFL Show 2025 Mock Draft

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Sheil, Steven, and Diante put on their GM hats, scan the big prospect boards, and take turns picking, analyzing, and debating their individual selections for the Ringer NFL Show’s no-trade version of their mock 2025 NFL Draft. Picks 1-5 (4:07) Picks 6-18 (24:25) Picks 19-32 (54:41) The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Sheil Kapadia, Steven Ruiz, and Diante Lee Producer: Chris Sutton Social: Kiera Givens Production Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and get ready for the McShay show on the ringer, Spotify, and wherever you watch or listen to podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. Shield Capadia here with Stephen Ruiz and Deontay Lee. It's a little mock draft Monday. We have not, we're the only people in America who have not done one of these yet. So we're going to do one today. We have divided the teams among the three of us. We are going to make all 32 first round selections based on who we think teams will take. So this is, we're getting into the heads of these GMs and decision makers and saying, I could see them liking this player. I could see them picking this player. No trades in this one. We're going to circle back in the next week or two and we will do one with trades. But this is just one to 32.

As they're laid out now, we're going to make the picks. Ruiz, how did you find this process of prepping for the teams you were assigned? I was talking to you before the pot and like we were both like kind of coming into this process late. Like we haven't been in the weeds with draft season. and I mean, it's kind of, it's better. You know, everyone already has their opinions out there on all these players and you don't have to like, you know, derive their own opinions from them. So I feel good about it. I felt good.

I just went through position by position, put together a little top five for each one. And, you know, I feel confident about this process. Very, Deante, that's a smart way for Ruiz to do it. I'm going to be looking all over the place. I've got various spreadsheets. I should have just done that. Top five at each position. Look at the team.

What position do I think they're going to take? left and done it that way. So Ruiz might be a little more organized than me for this one. I will say, like, in terms of efficiency and preparation, I think I rank last, and we are probably closer to one another as compared to Stephen. I think we've had a lot of conversations pre-pod or opening up the podcast where I realized like, oh, Steven's so much better at preparing his information than I am bouncing around from tab to tab more often than not. No, this is what happens when you're a fraud and you're afraid of being exposed. You have to have all your ducks in a row before it's pod.

I've got the tabs open too. I'll find them. We will find them. We will figure it out. This is going to be fun. We did the draft order. Deante is going to pick first for the Titans. Ruiz picks second for the Browns.

I pick third for the Giants. And then we just keep going. One, two, three, all the way down. I did the veteran podcaster move. I did get one fewer team than these two guys. So, you know, that's the smart, savvy veteran move that they will be able to execute. I already messed up my prep because I went in assuming that I had the first pick and I was wrong about that. I forgot that I had the second pick.

So I'm already off kilter. Listen, this is what teams have to do. They got to figure it out on the fly. All right, Deontay, get us started. You are on the clock. The Tennessee Titans with the first overall pick. What do you got? I wish there were some suspense here that we could apply to the situation.

We're going with what's obvious. What's been clearly hinted at reported upon that Tennessee is prepared to take Cam Ward. and that's what we're doing here. Obviously need to address the quarterback situation. I know we've really belabor at this point, right, of talking throughout the season about their quarterback situation, about Will Levis not having it, about this coaching staff needing to figure something out at quarterback

in order to really kind of trigger what they want to be a quick rebuild, right? And I think that instead, since we're not making trades, this makes it easy. And if we're just looking at the field, even though Travis Hunter, Abdul-Carter, a lot of other guys could go and be instant impact players, there's nothing more important for Tennessee right now than going to get a quarterback. And I think that Ward's upside, his potential, is just high enough to really make this an interesting move for Tennessee within this offense.

I feel like if you're Brian Callahan, you're almost trapped into taking a quarterback at this point. Just because you're in year two, year one went so poorly and then Will Levis obviously hasn't worked out. That's not the guy that Callahan wanted to bring in. Obviously, he was already in place when Callahan was hired. And it would suck to go. You get your first opportunity to be a head coach in the NFL. and you never really get to pick your quarterback. And there's a chance that if he has a bad year this year with how,

I mean, me and she were on this all season, but like how ugly things looked at times if he has another bad year, I wouldn't be surprised if it's his last opportunity at getting this job, especially in the NFL. So you're almost inclined to take the quarterback because of that pressure. And this is not like the best year to have that pressure on you. But I do like Cam Ward as a prospect. Maybe not as like a 1.1 top pick in the draft.

But as a top 10 pick, sure. Why not? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, when you decide when you're going to become a head coach, and I don't, Brian Callahan is not someone like Ben Johnson who is going to, you know, have a lot of options. I think he was sort of a little bit under the radar. Can you get somewhere that already has a quarterback who you like sometimes? If you can't, then that's kind of where you're left with.

So I feel like on the range of possibilities, Cam Ward is like a decent one. He's going to have tools. He was very good in college last year. Now you have to do your job. You are an offensive-minded head coach. You rebuilt the offensive line. Now you have to figure out a way to get the most out of this prospect. Doesn't mean it's definitely going to work.

You're right. It's not a perfect situation. But I think all signs are pointing towards this one. And it could be worse if you're Brian Callahan. You know, if they had like just the fourth overall pick, it's a different situation. They had the second overall pick. Yeah, you're right. So it does.

One of the things I'm just kind of fascinated by and I wasn't really thinking about it until now as we were talking is, if you're Brian Callahan, I mean, you're just feeling uneasy period because they wouldn't hire to GM as you know that your job security is probably not the greatest, right, because you're not having the best year. So I'm sure he does not have a lot of roster power as it is anyways, even if he didn't want Cam Ward, like Stephen was saying, you're kind of forcing to taking this based on where the roster is at, based on where the franchise situation is. And I think that now if you're Callahan, you know, based off of what it was like with Will Levis, you can't have that September and October that you had was Will Levis.

Otherwise, the GM really doesn't need to stay married to you much longer, right? And this staff is not proven very much. So I think if you're the Titans, you're happy. I think if you're Callahan specifically, you've got to be spending a lot of time in the office now, trying to figure out exactly how you can maximize what Cam Ward is as a quarterback. Yeah, I'd be excited if I were a Titans fan. It's not guaranteed to work out. It depends on the year.

But in terms of how quarterback prospects go, if Cam Ward hits, he's going to be a fun player in the NFL. So obviously, there's a long way to go. There's so much unknown with the draft process, but there's a chance that this ends up working out for Tennessee. All right. Ruiz now is on the clock. The second overall pick, the Cleveland Browns, an interesting one. What direction are you going in? Can I draft a new owner? Is that an option?

I think a lot of teams would love to do that. I'm just going to go Travis Hunter. I'm going to go with maybe the top player on the board. And anybody's big board, obviously, can play cornerback. You play wide receiver. I would draft him as a cornerback, full-time cornerback. Maybe he gets a package on offense, but that wouldn't be something I, that's not the reason why I would be drafting him because of the wide receiver part of it.

I wouldn't be like, oh, yeah, in 10 years, he's going to be a Pro Bowl wide receiver. In 10 years, he probably wouldn't be playing wide receiver anymore based on the toll that playing NFL is going to take on his body. But yeah, Travis Hunter, I mean, you've heard like the Browns cornerbacks, like after the season where like, I don't know how long I'm going to be sticking around here. I do think they need a replacement plan for Denzel Ward anyway. And Hunter can play alongside of them. And I don't think what do you have on the roster

should preclude you from taking a player at that position unless it's a quarterback. Because the truth of the matter in the NFL, you need two quarterbacks. You need two wide receivers. Sometimes you need two tight-in. Sometimes you need two tackles, two guards. Like, you know, quarterback and center are the only positions

where you only have one on the field at all time. So, yeah, I'm taking Hunter, and I'm not even thinking twice about it, if on the Browns. Yeah. Hunter is awesome. he'll fit well in that defense. Not that you're just drafting specifically for Jim Schwartz's defense because there's a lot of unknown in Cleveland,

but he had over 200 snaps of man coverage last year, according to pro football focus. That was seventh most among corners. And on those snaps, so 220 snaps of man coverage, he gave up 11 catches for 94 yards total. It seems like he's getting better as a corner too. If you watched the tape two years ago compared to last year,

like you could really see him or find his game. maybe playing under Dion, that was one of the perks. I am interested to see how that progresses when he gets under a new coaching staff. But yeah, I could see him becoming one of the top quarters in the league in a couple years based on his current trajectory. I agree. I will say, though, to kind of break the exercise for a second, there is just kind of this suspicion that I have that Cleveland is willing to show

interest in any prospect that makes it possible that a team wants to get up to number two to try to trade. And I think that that's smart. you know, if you're Andrew Barry, I think that that's a really smart idea. If there's a lot of heat around Travis Hunter and you know you can't get access to the number one pick, the best thing you can do is make sure that the rest of the league knows that you're as interested in him as everybody else, right? Like I think if trades were, if trades were on the table here, I would be, I would want to shop this big. If I were receiving, I'd want to shop this pick with New York.

I don't want to shop this pick with New England. See if I can get a day two pick as a return for this. And you can go take Travis Hunter. And now maybe I get enough dart throws to start addressing. the offensive line. And, you know, some of the things that we've lost defensively and add some depth in that respect as well. So I like this from Cleveland's position strategically. There are a lot of things that they have to address with this team. I know when I did my mock draft, I gave them Will Campbell because looking at that too deep with the offensive line,

you see a lot of aging guys and you see them taking steps backwards at the tackle position over the last couple of years as well. So I'm really fascinated to see once we do start getting closer to draft weekend, do start getting closer to that Thursday in late April, what exactly it is that Cleveland wants to do with this pick because I'm starting to feel like they might be just trying to poke around and see if there's a team desperate enough to get Hunter to go make a move up a couple spots to get them. Do you think that player is Hunter? Like the player that we're going to pretend we are enamored with to get teams are, is it Abdul Carter? Well, they've kind of done it with both. Like a week ago, it was like they're taking Abdul Carter. So I think Deonti's point is right that

they are, nobody knows, really nobody knows who they're going to take. And so you show interest in both guys and there are reports from legitimate sources that they're going to take. Abdul Carter. Nope, there's reports from legitimate sources that now is Travis Hunter. So if you are another team that loves one of those guys over the other one, now, you know, you have to think about, all right, we don't know. So let's go ahead and be aggressive and make that move. So that's a good point, because, yeah, there is some unknown here about who they're going to take. By the way, I do wonder if they would play Travis Hunter at wide receiver right away if they were the team that drafted him, given that they've got, you know, they've got corners on the roster right now that they like,

that they're thin at wide receiver. So that that would be an interesting one for me to see. That would be tough on the quarterback. The one thing about Travis Hunter is he hasn't played like a ton of wide receiver. He's not like a polished wide receiver. And then you have Jerry Judy, who is like a productive wide receiver, but also has that they were like, I don't know how long it's going to take them to run this route.

It might take them like 15 seconds to run this quick plan. They're a little duplicative, right? Like a little duplicative. I think the Travis Under ceiling as a receiver is better because he plays a ball in the air so well. Right. He's a really dynamic athlete. but I do think in terms of like route running chops, they're very, very similar.

I'm imagining like a quarterback dropping back on like a three-step drop and I got to get the ball out quick. And then like Judy's recording like a TikTok dance at the line of scrimmage. And then Travis Hunter is just doing his own thing because he has been taught full-time how to play wide receiver. I just wouldn't want to be in that position. It's Kenny Pickett. He's going to take some time anyway.

That's the worst case. They've got time to get open. They've got time to get open. And, yeah, I think they would, even in that scenario, they would prefer Travis Hunter over whoever the other option would be for wide receiver too. But we shall see. All right. So now it gets interesting. I've got the New York football giants.

At number three, do you pull the trigger on a Shador Sanders and say, you know what? We threw some darts at James Winston and Russell Wilson. Let's throw a Hail Mary here. Let's see what Shadour Sanders looks like in this offense play point guard for Brian Dayball. you have Malik neighbors. Maybe you can figure something out. Do you do that or do you go in a completely different direction? I was looking at this tweet from my friend, Fran Duffy,

who was tweeting out how often a team, you know, there's this thought that if you're on the hot seat, take the quarterback because it buys you time. And it's just not grounded in reality. I mean, he went over the last 10 years or whatever it was. And GMs and coaches get fired all the time after taking a quarterback in the top 10 pick. So I don't think it would save their jobs necessarily,

unless Shador Sanders obviously came in and played well. I don't think they're going Shadur Sanders. I'm going Abdul-Carter with this pick for the New York Giants, edge rusher from Penn State. I just looked at it and I thought, all right, if they just signed Russell Wilson, if they just signed James Winston, maybe I would be more inclined to say,

maybe they still like Shadur Sanders. They signed both those guys. eyes and it just feels like they're looking at this and saying Shador Sanders, because they have to have a pretty good feeling that he could be available, a strong possibility that he's there for them at number three. So I just don't know that they throw two darts at quarterback in the offseason if they really liked Shador Sanders and wanted him to be their quarterback. Maybe I'll be wrong.

But I think in Carter, you kind of strengthen a strength and you say, hey, Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Kavon, Tibado, Abdul Carter. Maybe we've got something there with. our defensive line. I know, you know, you don't look at positions that much. To me, if you're the giants, because you've got so much work to do, Tibado's going into the final year of his contract. Anyway, so I think they would just go best player available. It's a premium position and say, let's go Abdul Carter, and we'll see what this looks like with Russell Wilson and James Winston. Deontay, what do you think? Do you think that would be the situation they would go, or do you think

they would be more likely to go Shador Sanders. I think circumstantially, just like we were talking about with Tennessee kind of being shoehorned into taking a quarterback, I think that New York in a lot of ways is kind of trapped at three, right? They don't have a lot of avenues. There's really no easy way to try to set up their draft board if we're not trading up or back, right? And if we're going to stick at three and Hunter goes number two,

then yeah, Carter's the next best guy. When I was doing my drafts, I didn't think about edge because I'm thinking about Timidale. But honestly, if Carter's available, you let Carter go play A, If tips can give you something awesome. If not, you try to trade them by the trade deadline. See if you can get some mid-round value back, right? If you absolutely have to, if it's not working,

if he's not just going to be a depth piece for you. And you have what might be the most dynamic, one of the most dynamic athletes is not the best defensive player in this class, right? If you're talking about ceiling and positional value. So I like this for New York. I think that the combo of he and Brian Burns at their best when everybody's healthy can be really good and be dynamic in terms of past rushing chops. And like you said, I think that we would have heard a lot more from New York

about taking Shedura Sanders, given all the work that they had been doing on them throughout the season, right? You've seen all the reporting on how often they were out in Colorado, working on Hunter, working on Sanders, trying to get scouting reports together, trying to see if those guys were fits for their program. And then they go out and bring in two veteran quarterbacks, neither of which are so important that it precludes you from going out and getting a rookie. Right. But I don't think you get Russell. I don't think Russell Wilson is negotiating with you. knowing you have a top three pick unless he has an idea that the quarterback job is genuinely open for me in 2025. James Winston is whatever.

But I think if you go get two veterans, I think that that's the idea there is you want a guy who has done this before under center for this year. And given the way that John Moore allowed these guys to keep their jobs, I've got to think that they went into this offseason and feeling like as long as 2025 is not a disaster in season, we probably get a longer runway than most people would have thought. to try to build this thing. And I think that trying to take a swing at tackle, at edge rusher, makes a lot of sense for this team in that respect. So I like this pick for New York. It might be too rich for this player at number three. But imagine like taking Mason Graham and putting him next to Dexter Lawrence and just,

you know, building a defense around that. Like if this team is going to make the playoffs, they need something like that. Like some position group, some strength that you can kind of build your whole game plan around. And if you have those two guys just dominating in the interior, like I think you can go. a long way. I think you can get a nine-win season out of that, as long as the offense isn't a total disaster. That's why you have Brian Dayball to coach up the offense. So I don't know. If I was them, like if trading down was an option, I could trade down a couple of picks and someone wants to, you know, leap up to take Abdul Carter. Because if he's still there at three, I think there

will be suitors, especially to get in front of New England, then that would be like the plan I would want to play out. All right, maybe an hour trademark coming up on a future episode. Maybe this is a trade back spot. All right. Deontes up. So we'll We got KM Ward, Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter are off the board. Deonté is up with the New England Patriots. You know, if you look at this, this hasn't gone, how they would hope for it to go with a, with Shador Sanders not going off the board. So who do the Patriots go with at number four?

Yeah, when I was kind of playing out all the ways that this might go for us on the show, I expected those to be the top three picks. And then you look at New England, it's like, this is actually not the greatest position to be in, in terms of how the draft board is working out. two quarterbacks don't go because now you don't have access to Carter, you don't have access to Hunter. I think the next best thing for them would just be taking a tackle. And then that leaves you with an interesting debate about how you feel about Armand Membu, right, especially if you're going to move him from right to left going into his rookie year versus Will Campbell, who already plays a position,

but is not necessarily as physically dominant at times as you see on Mimbu's tape. But to me, I just look at Campbell, and this is like a pedigree thing for me. So I'm going with him at number four. He's been the left tackle, been the best left tackle in football and college football for several years now. I've been a starter at LSU from the day he stepped on campus. You have all these pure past sets. I know, Sheel, you were talking with Fran Duffy about this on a Philly special, right? And all of his pure pass set work looks really good. You look at the technique and it's there.

The athleticism is there. The arm length does show up as an issue, but maybe not as consistently and as significantly. So at a point where you would really mark it as a red flag, he just might end up being a really solid left tackle instead of an all pro because he does have some length issues. But I think that it's almost impossible for this guy to bust when you watch the tape. And if he's not an elite tackle

prospect, if the arm length does become an issue in the league, I think you could step him in the guard and he would instantly be a fringe all pro talent at guard, just looking at his tape as a pass protector and what he can do for you as a run blocker. Yeah, I like Campbell. And they weren't able to really build up the pieces around Drake

May in free agency, in the trade market. They dumped a lot of resources on the defensive side of the ball. So while Patriots fans might be a little disappointed that you don't end up with Carter or Travis Hunter, I think getting a franchise left tackle. And I think Campbell is a great prospect. I would be pretty happy about that if I were New England. All right.

Ruiz, that Jacksonville Jaguars, you are up with the fifth overall pick. This is interesting. Do you have the guy you just mentioned or are you going in a different direction? No, I'm going to go with the guy just mentioned. I spoiled the pick. I'm going to go with Mason Graham. I mean, you just look at the interior of their defensive line. It's just not good enough. And this just is like the easiest pick so far, I believe. Maybe you can argue Cam Ward to Tennessee. But it's the perfect spot to take this guy is probably where he's going to go. That's where he's going on all like the consensus big boards. You have a need

there. And I think he could be a player where we look back at this draft in five years and we're like, yeah, he was always supposed to be a top five pick, a top ten pick. And he is exactly what we expected him to be coming from Michigan. He could play a three tech. He can affect the quarterback, the passing game on third down, which is really what you want. He can create negative plays on early downs. I wouldn't overthink this pick at all. This is another one where I'm running up to the podium to hand it in. Yeah, I feel like outside of Cam Ward at number one overall, this is the only other pick that's hitting at like almost a 100% rate. You look at mock drafts and you look at how other people expect for this draft to go. And I mean, Jacksonville is kind of

hinted as much about wanting to take several swings in the front. seven, right, to try to address some of their issues with stopping the run and giving up explosive plays that they had last season. And if you don't have Hunter who could play corner available to you, the next best thing is addressing a defensive interior here. And Mason Graham fits what I think Anthony Kavaneelew wants to do in terms of having a disruptive guy on the interior. You've got big edges around him. You know, maybe Tramont Walker continues to take a step forward. I think he's still a little bit production ahead of what he is as an actual player, right, when you're watching on a down-to-down basis. But he's turned out to be,

a pretty solid, a pretty dependable edge rusher. And I think that you feel good about Josh Heinz Allen as well. And I think that maybe you can address corner a little bit later in the draft, I think that as we have this conversation in the 20s or so, I think that one of the things that I'm really starting to take away from this class is that if you want to get multiple swings of the bat at positional needs, you might need to double dip in the first round. And I think if you're Jacksonville, you take Mason Graham

and you start hanging around and peeking around the 20s and seeing if there's a team that wants to give up a pick, and maybe you can swoop back in and get a corner later on in the first round. So I like this pick for Jacksonville, and it would definitely be a big step forward for them. He's also, he has the best chance, especially of like the guys that were drafted ahead of him. I guess Abdul Carter has this chance of being like a truly transformational player for that defense and changing what they do. So yeah, I would feel really confident about this one if I was Jacksonville. And I do wonder Trent Balke, if he was still around if this wouldn't be an option.

Because Graham does have the shorter arms. I think there are concerns in that regard. He looks off the table. Yeah, yeah, Balke. I don't know if he's going to be on Balkees board because of that. But he's not there. So now they can take the best player available. Yeah, Ruiz mentioned that he and I come to the draft process a little later.

When I watched Mason Graham a couple weeks ago, I was like, this guy's incredible. Like one of my favorite guys in like the top 10. Because, you know, you read profiles and you read what people write and you have a vision of a guy in your head. And then I watched him. And I'm like, not only is he so stout. at the point of attack, but his movement ability, his agility for a defensive tackle that size, I thought was awesome. I'm with Ruiz.

He could be like a game wrecking type player who we look back at this draft as easily one of the best guys from this draft, one of the most impactful guys. So I like that one quite a bit. All right, let's take a break because I got the Raiders on the clock at six. This is where it gets interesting. And I'm debating between two players. So I need to take a break, get my composure, get in the head of Tom Brady. and Pete Carroll and John Spitech and Mark Davis and whoever else and figure out who the Las Vegas Raiders are going to take.

All right, we're back on the Ringer NFL shell. So so far we've got Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, Will Campbell, and Mason Graham off the board. That leaves the Las Vegas Raiders with the sixth overall pick. They sign Gino Smell or they trade for Gino Smith. They hire Pete Carroll. They give Max Crosby the extension. Tom Brady will be in the draft. I don't know if you guys.

I didn't know that. I was going to know of this. Yeah, I was reading the athletic. I think it was, I don't know if it was to Sean Reed or Vic Tafer wrote in there that he is expected to be in the draft room. So this is like legit involved Tom Brady. And I'm debating between two players here. One is the guy you will probably see mocked to the Raiders a lot in the weeks ahead. And that is Ashton Gentie running back from Boise State, tackle breaking machines.

Pete Carroll can look at him and say he is going to be the identity of our offense, of our football team. Had 151 forced miss tackles last year per Dane Brugler. That was 57 more than any other player in the country, just impossible to bring down at first contact. So he's one guy I'm considering. And the other guy is one of the ones that Deonté mentioned, Armand Membo, offensive tackle from Missouri, 6'4, 332 played right tackle last year. Crazy athleticism with all the athletic testing will only be 21 years old as a rookie. Do they say this is the harder player to find positional value?

We can find a running back in the later rounds. And I think ultimately the Raiders go offensive tackle. I think Tom Brady comes in and Tom, maybe Pete Carroll saying, we're taking gente, right? and Brady comes in and says, oh, let's fix that offensive line first, and then we'll worry about the running back. So Armand Membo, the offensive tackle from Missouri, is the pick here for the Las Vegas Raiders. Ruiz, you're a, you study a Brady and the Brady analysis

and what Brady says during all these games on Sundays. Who do you think that did I get it right? Or do you think they're saying, no, Ashden Gentie is just our guy? I mean, I can see Brady being kind of old school and going with the running back and being like, if we draft this running back, we save our run game when like really you need the offensive line first. He might help the run game more than Gentie would in a way. But yeah, no, I do think Brady understands the value of an offensive line. Like when he had his worst years in New England and they weren't that bad, obviously. But it was offensive line issues.

We're usually the problem. Like he didn't have enough time to read out the field. And if, and Gino Smith is that style of quarterback. I think Tom Brady expects him to be that style of quarterback, but he needs a little more extra time compared to Brady, who doesn't, to read the defense. And I think it's smart to build up the offensive line first. Don't make the same mistakes. We've seen other teams trying to build an offense from scratch,

including the Bears last year. I know it was a slightly different situation with their number one overall pick, but they went wide receiver first, and then we saw what happened. It was a disaster. I think Brady, who had a year to step back and watched the league, and he was preparing for games. He's watching teams every different. week. I think he understood that. I think that's one of his main takeaways if you listen to him

throughout the season. What do you think, Deontay? Did I get it right or you think they're going Gentie? No, I love this pick. I wasn't expecting it, right? Like I'm still curious, really, about what teams who need offensive playmakers think of this trio of Ashen Densi, T. Mack, and Tyler Warren. I look at those three as being kind of tied together, right? Because none of them are really perfect prospects, two of which I think was more a positional value thing, right? And I think that for Tetraud McMillan, you're really just talking about sealing, right? That's his issue more than anything. I do like what you were saying about, I mean, whether you're Brady or if you're Pete Carroll and you're looking at your days with Marshawn Lynch, you know, and you're like, hey, man, this is a

pocket-sized version of what I might have in Seattle. You know, I might want a running back that we can really lean upon with Gino Smith. But I think if Mimbo's available here, and I do expect that one of the two tackles will be here at this spot. The smart moves, that eat your vegetable moves, if you're Las Vegas is to take Membo, take a tackle here, continue to plug these holes along the offensive line, really try to solidify it as much as possible around Gino Smith in year one to make sure you're maximizing what you just traded for.

And yeah, you can make other moves later on in the first round or on day two of the draft to see if you can add value at wide receiver, at running back. You know your tight-in room is taking care of. I like where the defense is at is at already. And I think that this will be a very disciplined move, right? I think if we see a move like that,

what that tells us is, okay, SpyTech and Brady really do believe on what they had in Tampa Bay, and that's what they're going to try to build here. If it's a guy like Gentie McMillan, Tyler War, maybe not Tyler Warren because he plays tight-in, but Gentia McMillan, that to me would sound more like,

okay, Pete Carroll went in there and said, I told everybody, we're competing in year one. I need dynamic playmaking, so that way we can come. Pete in year one, right? That, to me, I think, is kind of the potential divergence and pathways for this team. It's a great description. Discipline move. I think that's right. I think that would be the narrative if they win offensive tackle here and passed on Gentie. Listen, Pete Carroll used always like to brag that he was the one who identified Chris Carson in the seventh round when

Carson was having those good years for the Seahawks. So he can flex a little bit and be like, don't worry, all right, I'm good with this plan. I'll find us a running back later in the draft. All right, number seven, the seventh overall pick, the New York Jets. Deontay, who are they going with here at this spot? Put yourself in bricks shoes. Where does he go? High up college football 25. Go to the roster page, sort by overall.

Yeah, I'm trying to think what player on his mad and ultimate team is he missing, right? What position does he have the biggest need at? He wants to add his rookie corner. He's drafted Jaylon Miller if he's pacing off the video games. 1,000%. I'm going to go with Tessaroy and McMillan. I actually think that this has kind of been an underplayed piece of New York's kind of roster pivot is that they've lost a lot of bodies at wide receiver.

Right? And I was thinking about him here. I was thinking about Tyler Warren here as well. And with both tackles off the board, I will leave offensive line alone if I'm New York in this scenario. So I'll take T-Mack here. Obviously, you know, I mentioned the ceiling as a potential issue. But I do think he separates pretty well for a guy his size. He can't play the ball in the air really well.

He does have good hands. He doesn't necessarily have the breakaway speed you'd like to see from like, you know, your big, strong kind of linear athlete type, right? So he's not that. And he's also not Drake London in terms of like he can catch the ball, play in the slot, make a guy miss and go find hitting yardage. And I think that that's the hang up, right? Is you're not going to get that AJ Brown, D.K. Metcalf guy in terms of the big

linear athlete. You're not getting the big guy who's smooth, plays like a basketball player. And your Drake London types, you know, maybe T. Higgins either in terms of being able to go play the ball up like a rebounder, you know, playing like power forward. So I understand why there's a hang up on where team at can go and why his range is anywhere from six to eight to late teens, early 20s. It's tough to kind of suss out how the league is going to feel about them. But I think that New York has a significant need at playmaking with their playmakers

and having Justin Fields there and trying to build this offense around him for at least the current times. I think the best thing to do is to try to get him some more receiving options, especially a jump ball guy. Nice compliment to Garrett Wilson there as well, I feel like, with the way they're building that wide receiver group. All right, Ted McMillan goes off the board to the Jets at 7. And then Ruiz gets to pick for his Carolina Panthers at number eight. Get into David Tepper's head here, Ruiz, you know?

Yeah, yeah. What is it? He's got the testicle statue on his desk or whatever, you know, put yourself in the right mind frame here. and who are the Carolina Panthers going to go with? I was going to take McMillan. I think the Panthers are kind of like trying to throw out some smoke screens. Like Dave Canales last week was like, Xavier Ligat, he's our number one receiver.

Like that's, yeah, I was like, that's a damn lie. If you've seen it, like, there's no way coming off his rookies season. Not that he was like terrible, but at the catch point, the guy just wasn't what you wanted him to be. He let Bryce Young down a couple of times down the stretch there. But I do think like having that jump ball winner, like you have two big guys would suit.

young just because he's more of a soft tosser and the ball's in the air for a little bit longer than it is compared to stronger armed quarterbacks and you want you guys that can go up and win the ball there. But yeah, now I'm kind of scrambling. It's between Will Johnson and Tyler Warren for me. I'm going to go with Will Johnson. I know they just gave J.C. Horn all that money, but this franchise has been looking for a second quarterback for as long as I've been rooting for the team. They always managed to find one that you can play. And then like the other guy becomes a liability. And I think Will Johnson compliments J.C. Horn. different styles of cornerback. I think it makes it easier to game plan. And I think he is perhaps the best player on the board right now if you're looking past some positions where I don't want to take these positions in the top ten. Like, Ashen Gentie's good. He's a player I'd make an exception for.

Tyler Warren's good. But they're tight ends and they're running backs. I'm going to go with the cornerback. I'm going to go with the premium position here. All right. Will Johnson at corner opposite J.C. Horn for the Carolina Panthers. I'm on the clock. Ninth overall pick, New Orleans Saints.

Are we sure this isn't a Shador Sanders team? The New Orleans Saints? I'm not. I'm really not sure. You're not sure. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure either. I looked at him.

I said, could they be, I think if there's a sleepery team here in the top 10, like if he gets past three, it would probably be them. But I didn't feel strongly enough about it to say, I'm going to mock Shador Sanders to the New Orleans Saints. What about the Jets? Like, if I was making the Jets pick,

I would have considered it. That's interesting. I think that it would be wise to think about it, right? And again, this is another team based on the way the draft board is going, that their best move is probably to trade back, right, and see if he can get you to do her a little bit later. I think that would be the right thing to do. But yeah, I think that he should probably be in play from every pick after six

based on the way that is gone so far. Yeah. Yeah, that contract with Justin Field, it's not like, oh, we signed Justin Fields. we're not going to make a move at quarterback. So that certainly could be an interesting one. And if he slides to a certain point, then does a team like the Brown say,

hey, we've got a bunch of picks. We can get back in there. Now we get Travis Hunter and Shadour Sanders. Maybe that's an outcome that could potentially be in play. But for the Saints here at 9, I was looking a little bit at Tyler Warren. I was looking at some defensive players. I think I'm going to land on Jalen Walker.

edge from Georgia for the New Orleans Saints. 6-1, 243, 11.5 sacks the last two years, played a little off ball, played a little edge, high upside player, plays hard. I don't know. They really could go in a number of different directions. I was trying to get them some pass rush. I felt like that's certainly an area where they need a lot of help. There are other areas to offensive line, quarterback, corner.

It is not a great roster. so you could go in a bunch of different directions, but I could see them just saying Jalen Walker is the top guy on our board here, so we are going to go with him. So I got Walker number nine to the New Orleans Saints. All right, closing out the top 10 here. We go back to Deontay.

The Chicago Bears, very interesting spot here. Ben Johnson made some moves with the offensive line. What do the Chicago Bears do with the 10th overall pick? So this is really interesting because I think, think that a smart move here would be going with someone on the edge if the tackles are gone, right? Like, I think, I think Heart of Heart's perfect scenario is someone like Mimble or Campbell slides because of their arm length issues or the fact that Mimu's not a ready-made left tackle right

now based on just like his college tape. And then maybe that guy gets to 10 and now you can find a Braxton Jones replacement potentially at left tackle. So that was the way I was hoping it would go. But if it didn't go in that direction, I was prepared to go with Mikel Williams at number 10. and I think that this is a smarter pick than what I had initially thought, you know, I was really concerned with Michael Williams' tape in 2024, and then you have to remember that he was dealing with an ankle issue, I believe,

basically from the open of the season and just kind of gut it through it. And then you look at the age profile. I think he's not going to be 21 until the time of the draft. You might not be 21 until after the draft, right? So now are talking about a guy in terms of trajectory is pointing upwards. The arm length is there. The explosiveness is there. You look at his tape when he is.

is relatively healthy. You know you're going to get a high-level run defender. And the pass-rushing tools are there, even though the production hasn't necessarily matched it yet. And if I'm judging that, and there are a few guys in this class that kind of fit that profile, if I'm judging that against a Shamar Stewart, a James Fierce, Jr.,

these guys who are really raw athletes who have not produced at the level that you would expect, given their athletic ability. I think the Williams of ceiling is the highest, and I would be most comfortable with him right here, playing with the Bears. and I think that now you have a nice rotation between sweat, Dio de Ngo and having Mikel Williams as a young guy who can mix in

and give you something on early downs as well. I like it. Mikel Williams to the Chicago Bears defensive linemen from Georgia. All right. And this sets up a very interesting pick for Ruiz, the San Francisco 49ers. At number 11, a team that feels like they're in transition at the same time. feels like maybe they could bounce back in a big way in 2025.

What direction does Ruiz have Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch going here with this pick? This is one of those ones where, like, if they're doing the discipline thing to use that word again, like, don't do it. You go to the trenches, but I'm not going there. What the hell? This is for fun. This is pretend. Why would I do that?

I'm putting myself in Kyle Shanahan's shoes. And this has got to be the most vexing decision for him possible. He has a chance to draft Action. and Jainty and you can have a succession plan for Christian McCaffrey, or you can take Tyler Warren and have another tight end, another big body that you can move around and other chess piece and have a succession plan for George Kittle, who's getting up there an agent as a player who, like,

it remains to be seen, but I don't know if his game's going to age well just because of how much punishment he takes and he seeks out the punishment. So the shelf life could be a little shorter for them. It's got to be tough. Kyle Shane, I don't even think he would make a decision. Like the clock would run out and he would just be sitting there, three down running backs on our dual threat, tight end daughter type of situation.

I'm going to go with Ashen Jentie because the writing is more. Yep. I'm shot. I'm shot. With Christian McCaffery, in my opinion. We saw it last year. He's going to Germany. We made fun of the trips to Germany.

You might need another trip to Germany this summer. Why not just take his replacement right now and take Jainty? And I think it would be more fun. I want to see him in San Francisco compared to some of these other teams. Maybe the team drafting the two picks. I would like to see him just because you have a similar coaching staff there. But now I'm going with a fun pick here. I'm stunned.

I thought once Tyler Warren was still on the board there, and I can just picture him in that uniform, another tight end, another offensive playmaker. I thought you were going to go in that direction. It's tough with the Niners with Shanahan, because for a while it was like they don't need to spend resources on a running back. Then they do spend resources on one running back. And he's awesome in that scheme.

So how much does that change, you know, Kyle Shanahan's overall philosophy here, Deonti, he caught me off guard here with that pick. It's funny. This was a one where I wish I was making, well, if I were making the pick, I would have done the discipline thing, right? I'm kind of glad that it landed in your guys' hands. And you did something that's maybe a little bit more fitting personality-wise for Kyle Shanahan. It's thinking, like, I can't have my offense, go through the sputters that it went through in 2024. We've got to have another playmaker available to us. I would have thought that Tyler Warren would have been the guy, like you said, Sheel.

I can see it now. You know, they run the play action bootleg. Tyler Warren's out in the flat. You dump it off to him. He's got a match up with the corner out there, you know, some hapless DB. And he just runs right over him and gets another 15 yards after the catch. And now we look like the Kyle Shanahan offensive old. I think that if there wasn't a Christian McCaffrey question mark, right?

If we were sure that it was done for him or if we were sure that he was going to be 100% healthy, maybe the approach would have been different from Stephen in that respect. But I think I get the idea of like the best version of this offense so far has had a dynamic running back. I can get that combination of Tvin Campbell and Devante Freeman, basically a one guy with Ashton Genti. Right. And I could definitely see it in that respect. I just would have expected a past catcher because I think that if we were going to go in any direction with this offense, it would be that more so than running back.

But I'm not mad at just taking the more dynamic guy, the more proven dynamic guy out of the back field. for that specific office. I think I would actually pick Warren if I was in the front office and had to do this, but no, we're doing a podcast. I'm taking Ashton, Jenton, giving them to the 49ers.

All right, I have the 12th pick with the Dallas Cowboys. I, hey, you guys took all my guys. I'm like, in a fantasy draft where you're like, all right, one of these guys is going to slip to me.

I had Michael Williams as a potential replacement for DeMarcus Lawrence. I had Tet McMillan. I was looking at it going, man, they get Ted McMillan, like, that solves a lot of problems I feel like for the Dallas Cowboys.

Yeah, that would be nice for them where all of a sudden you look at it and say, this offense can really get back to what it was a couple years ago. Deante took him with the Jets here. And then I thought, all right, I passed on Jentee with the Raiders. Now I'll get Jentee with the other obvious spot here in the first round. But Ruiz goes off book and takes Jenty with the 49ers. This is tough. I'm looking at this going, all right, best player available.

Who do I take here? I guess I'm going Tyler Warren to the Dallas Cowboys. I know they've got Jake Ferguson and he's been a good player for them, but I do feel like they just need another guy who can be a pass catching weapon for them. And I think Warren is that guy. So you can figure it out. You don't overthink it. If there was another guy here that I thought,

all right, it's another position similar to your player, then maybe I would go in that direction. I don't know that I necessarily see that guy in this spot. So Penn State, tight end, Tyler Warren, crazy productive in college. Deontay just gave the scouting report there. Add him to that group offensively and see if it can take some attention off of CD Lam and give you another pass-catching option for Dak Prescott. So there you go.

I like that. Yeah, I like that a lot. I think that that will be a smart playmaking option for them. The guy's a great, he's a great playmaker, right? He's a great playmaker. He would fit really well. I think with Prescott, I think that that's a good mix of body. type and skill type between CD Lamb and the slot having a guy you can kind of move around.

I think about Trey McBride, even though it's not a one-to-one comparison. You just think of a guy who like can play some X when you need them to and kind of play bully ball, who can play in the slot, create after the catch, who can grow as an in-line blocker, you know, over time. I think that there's a lot of potential there will be really smart for Dallas. If that's how the board plays out, I just am shocked. I think we're going to feel the reverberation of Ashtonty at 11 for a few picks now, as I'm going through what I expected on the board.

I've got a lot of names that I've got to shuffle around because I was kind of building it around certain guys being available in certain spots. I had to play the wild card, you know? They have Jake Ferguson, but like with Brian Schottenheimer, not that you should be drafting based on Brian Schottenheimer's offense, it does work with two tight ends. I don't see that being a problem there.

So now's the point in the draft if it plays out this way where just Shador Sanders is the story, where everyone's going to go, where is he going to go? Is anyone going to trade up? How far is he going to slip? why is he slipping? So that's where we would be here at this point. The 13th pick is the Miami Dolphins.

And Deonti, you've got the dolphins. Who do they go with in this situation? Had Toronto Armstead not retired over the weekend, I would have really thought about defensive interior, right? Like you go in their hour lads, death chart, and there's only like four names with the defensive interior. And this is an odd front defense. They need bodies and guys who can play there

around Zach Seeler. But because there's no Toronto Arshead, I think that you have to start really looking at this offensive line. I really like Kelvin Banks Jr. here. Powerful guy, maybe not as fleet of foot as some of the tackles that have gone ahead of him. But he's a guy who blocks really well in the run game. He's another guy who plays pretty well in terms of pure past sets. I think he checks a lot of the boxes that you're looking for in terms of a solid tackle.

And now I think that you kind of backstop what you expect Patrick Paul to become. And if he's not ready yet, right? If it's going to take more time, if you need to shuffle bodies, you have a guy like Banks there, who I think can maybe step in and be more of a high floor guy right out the gate where Patrick Paul, I think, is a little bit more of your high ceiling. If he hits and he's a Pro Bowl-level player, this guy could be the limit for there.

I think that Banks is just reliable and is an immediate addressal of a need that this team has. All right. Dolphins get some O-line help with Kelvin Banks at 13. That puts Ruiz on the clock with the Indianapolis Colts. at number 14. What do you got? I'll take the tight end here. I'll go Colson Loveland from Michigan. I think he's maybe like the Kelsey to Warren's

George Kittle, if you want to make a player comp. You can move him around. He's more of a receiver. I think he can block in line if he has to, but I don't think that's necessarily a selling point for him. And the Coltony past catchers, they need a tight end. No more grants and targets. I'm sorry, watching Anthony Richardson's tape all the year long. Like Richardson had his accuracy issues,

but the tight end position was a problem for Indianapolis. and I think this is an easy way to solve it. I was thinking about going linebacker here. It's a need for the team. I think Gerhard Campbell would be someone that Chris Ballard would like just based on his past draft picks at the position. But ultimately, I think you need to go offense here if you're the Colts. 6-6-248. So you've got a big wing span.

Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't have to be necessarily that accurate. It can still come down with those. So Colston Loveland was the pick for. the Colts at number 14 there. That puts me on the clock 15. The Atlanta Falcons who only have five picks in this entire draft, the Atlanta Falcons only have five picks.

I thought maybe one of those Georgia defenders that already got taken. I thought that might make sense. I thought Will Johnson might make sense. I'm going to go with the guy that I'm looking at it now. I see this, the point of the draft for now. He was about to say the name. And then I second guess myself. I change it here and go with a different.

I'm looking at two defensive players here. All right. Now I'll go with the initial one. I'll go with Jihad Campbell, the linebacker from Alabama. Offball linebacker, 6-3-235, reliable starter, three-down player. I had a great combine, led Alabama in tackles, tackles for loss, sacks, and forced fumbles last year. So Falcons, they really need defensive line help.

If there was a pass rusher there, I would have looked at it and said, okay, go ahead and grab him. And maybe I'll regret that as we continue down the line here. But just kind of going off the board who was available, I decided Jihad Campbell was the best player available to help that front seven. So that's the pick at number 15. All right. To close out the first half of the first round, it goes back to Deontay and the Arizona Cardinals are up at number 16. So Arizona can go on a lot of different directions, right? I think that we've kind of mentioned this.

This is a tough way for the board to work out for Arizona. I think you would like to have a few more options available in terms of high ceiling defensive players. And just knowing Jonathan Gannon, the way he likes to play, knowing the way this defense is built, there are some interior defensive linemen that are interesting here. And I just want to go with the most disruptive one because I think that's just the most fitting of their style of play. So we're going on Walter Nolan here. Number 16 plays defensive tackle. I thought about corner as well, but I like a guy who is good with his hands.

He's explosive. Again, she'll hearing you and Fran Duffy talk about production scores and where guys might land in terms of their ceilings. This is something he was talking about on his podcast covering the Eagles as well. I just think that Walter Nolan checks a lot of boxes in terms of being a disruptive interior piece, and you can do a lot with them. He can play on the nose if you need to and be quick. He can play at three tech and you can kind of anchor if you need him to. So I know I like that kind of versatility with the way that Arizona plays.

his defense. So yeah, defensive tackle, Walter Nolan from Ole Miss is going to be the picture. I like it. He's a guy who just prepping for the pod and looking at various mocks is kind of all over the place. I sort of am with you that I think he's going to go higher than maybe people think right now, but

who knows? We'll see what the buzz is here in the next few weeks, but certainly a high upside player there out of Ole Miss. All right. Bengals, you got to nail it for me, Ruiz. Just picture me in August, getting ready to pick the Cincinnati Bengals to win the AFC North.

Who is the rookie I can count on here that they take in the first round that has an immediate impact? If you're the Bengals, I feel like you just kind of got to keep throwing darts at the dartboard with these same two positions where I feel like they've been trying to fill in for the last couple of years

had quarterback and edge defender. It's tough. I'm going to go with Chaudet Barron from Texas just because of the value at this point. I think he slid enough where I'm thinking about Mike Green here. But I think, you could get him maybe a few picks later, so it could be a trade-down.

But just based on value at this point in the draft, I'm going to go, Barron. He's not necessarily like this man coverage guy who's in a lockdown, a number one receiver, but he's going to fit and do a job in a zone heavy defense. And it remains to be seen what the Bengals defense is going to look like now, but I expect him to be able to fit in to what they're going to be doing. I think that would be a smart personality change for them, not to cut you off shield.

Go ahead. They've taken swings at the corner position with guys who were, Either height, weight speed guys, guys who are just speed guys, these kind of raw athletes at corner, and they feel like, oh, we'll coach them up and get them to be disciplined enough to execute within this scheme. I think they're bringing in a guy like Barron. Like Stephen said, this is a guy you can drop in and be like, you can play nickel. We can bumpy outside if we need to.

Every once in a while, you're going to be disciplined in zone coverage. That's all we need. You're going to be physical. You're going to be a good tackler. There are so many things you don't have to question with Barron. I do think that ultimately you have to ask yourself whether or not you think that pure coverage chops are good enough for him to have a high ceiling to be around the middle of the first round.

But I do think that as a role player, this is an instant impact player, especially for a defense that has been missing guys who are just dependable around the ball and on the perimeter. And I know they're changing the scheme and Arumos out, how golden is in. But I do think they still need a replacement for that Mike Hilton style of player. And I think he can kind of fit in there.

I don't know if he's going to play outside or inside, but just a hard-nosed football players. I think that's what they need. Like DeAndi said, they've been chasing certain profiles based on athleticism. This guy's in a company, he's going to play football, and you're not going to have to worry about him competing,

especially if you put him inside. I think he has the mentality to hang inside when you have to fit the run and do all that other stuff. Usually we used to think of slot corners as these small guys who just cover experts, guys who can cover an option route and man coverage. But I think the league is kind of shifting to way. from that. I think Barron would be a good piece to fit in there.

Yeah, I think, like you said, they need competent starters on defense, so they go with Jad A. Barron defensive back from Texas. All right, I'm up at 18. The Seattle Seahawks just feels like they, you know, I know they're saying best player available. It sure seems like from the offseason moves, they just got to add some offensive linemen somewhere here. I'm going to go with Gray Zabel, the interior

offensive lineman from North Dakota State has started at three different positions, has played all five positions had a great

senior bowl, great combine workout was a very good player there at North Dakota State. So I think, you know,

level of competition maybe aside, he is able to check a lot of boxes for you. You don't have to figure out right away. He's going to play

exactly at this one spot. You can see how things maybe shake out with your offensive line with the rest of the draft. Other guys you add later in the draft. They've only added one offensive lineman this offseason. That was Josh Jones, a backup. So they are putting all their eggs in the, hey, Clint Kubiak's going to be able to make our offensive line look better than it was last year basket, all while adding Sam Darnold, who holds the football quite a bit there as their quarterback. So they got to figure some stuff out.

I do feel like John Schneider must just be so tired of it at this point answering the same questions, but the questions are still there for a good reason. So they go best offensive line. Maybe not everybody's best offensive linemen on the board, but certainly a guy who's kind of in that next grouping there, and they go with Gray Zabel. All right. Take a break. We come back.

We go to pick number 19. Shador Sanders is still on the board here as we get to pick number 19, some other interesting prospects as well. We'll get to those when we come back. All right, we are back on the Ringer NFL show. Gray Zabel off the board to the Seahawks. Deontay, you're up with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This is, this was one of the easier ones for me

because we're really playing the type here for this team. It's going to be trenches and the offensive line is fine. So that only really leaves you, there's so many other options. And knowing the way they, knowing the way that, uh, that they like to build this defensive line. The biggest height weight speed guy here will probably be Shemar Stewart. So I'm going to go with Shemar Stewart here to play on the edge in the Bucks defense. There are a lot of questions that I still have about where his ceiling is at, right? Like, then my first mock draft, he was the top 10 pick, and we were closer to coming out of the combine at the time that I was working on that. Right. So you're

thinking about all the heat that a guy has after it's testing. People start talking about what a ceiling may be. You go readdress the tape and you see like, all right, there are some things here, but maybe not top 10 types of flashes, right? But I do think that as an athlete is going to be really hard to justify not taking a chance on a player like this. If there's one place he can go,

that's just going to cut him loose and tell him to go be a game wrecker on the edge, I think it would be Tampa Bay. So, Samar Stewart here to play on the edge for the Buccaneers. Yeah, one of the more interesting prospects when you look at the profile, like you mentioned, just four and a half sacks

in three seasons, one and a half sacks last season. but then you look at the what he did from an athletic profile. It's like, I mean, the greatest common performance ever for going by relative athletic score. Relative athletic score. Yeah, for those who don't know is this score that, you know, you can Google it and check out the site.

But they've got this database going back to 1987 and they've got over 2,000 edge defend edge rusher prospects in that. And he had the highest relative athletic score of that group. We're talking, I mean, Javon Kirst, Miles. Garrett, Gedevion Clowny, Trayvon Walker. These guys are all in that sample, and he ranked first there. So the production hasn't been there, but like you said, you know, if you got Todd Bowles and he says, oh, I can work with this guy.

And now you could look back all of a sudden and say, no, no, he was kind of that ball of clay, sort of a DeNeal Hunter type where it didn't happen for him all the way in college, but give him some time, put him in the right spot, and he's going to be a high upside prospect. So, yeah, I'm very interested to see where he goes, where he's, goes in the draft, where he lands, what the fit is, who the coach is. So I do like that one, him landing with Todd Bowles there. All right. That was number 1920. I feel like we didn't do this on purpose, Ruiz, but I love the teams you got. We got the Broncos now. You got the Panthers

earlier. You got the Niners before. I feel like it's a you got the Panthers. I feel like it's a lot of teams that just in my head, I'm like, oh, Ruiz has connections with all these teams just based on like takes you've had or conversations we've had over the last couple of years. So Denver Broncos at 20. What do you got? I wish I could have gotten the Dolphins pick at 13, so I could have taken Shador Sanders. But I'm going to go. That would have been funny.

I was wondering about that when Deonté went up. Yeah, I was thinking about that. If I know Sean Payton, and I don't know him, but I know him parisotially, I would be thinking running back here in Marian Hampton, but I'm not going to go. I'm going to go wide receiver. I think that's the obvious avenue for them. And now it really comes down to what Sean Payton wants. And I think it comes down between Luther Burden from Missouri and Matthew Golden from Texas.

I don't think he's going to be able to resist that 4-2-9 speed or whatever it was. Golden ran at the combine. And I think he's more of a polished receiver at this point. So I'll go with Golden and give the Broncos another receiver to play to join that receiving core. And I think he fits in, too, as a wide receiver too. I don't think you're expecting him to be some like true X number one receiver one day. but I think he fills in a role that they need. There you go. Matthew Golden, getting some receiver help for Bo Nix,

the Denver Broncos, get their guy there at number 20. All right, 21. Here it is. Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm up. Do you do it? Do you go with Shador Sanders? Are you texting Aaron Rogers during the draft?

Dude, can you, you know, we kind of need an answer here or not? I'm taking him. Shador Sanders to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I would feel great about that. It might not work out. Who knows? But at 21, you're not trading up. You're not giving up multiple first round picks.

You're not using a top five pick. If you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and he can, if he can be like the 19th or 21st best quarterback over the next four seasons, that's actually a great value given what you're going to be paying him on a rookie contract. So I like the fit. Go play for Mike Tomlin. You got some guys on defense. got a couple wide receivers there. You know, you look at their depth chart when I was doing this.

And I'm like, man, there are things to like certainly still about this football team, even though their season came to an abrupt crash there at the end last year. So, Shador Sanders to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Deonté. How do you feel about this from Sanders' perspective? If you're a Steelers fan, how do you feel about it? Is it realistic that he would actually fall this far? What do you think? I was, this is a one pick since like 13 where I didn't have to kind of like reconfigure the way I expected the rest of the board to go so far. This makes a lot of sense. Even if Aaron Rogers is in the building,

it shouldn't stop you for being an issue to Sanders. I actually think that like Sanders, giving like family dynamics and kind of his personality, might actually be able to stand being in the locker room, being in the meeting room on a day-to-day basis with a personality like Aaron Rogers. So I think that there would be a little bit of a little bit of alignment in that from that perspective. And in terms of situation you would want to bring a quarterback like Sanders up into,

this is perfect. For play style, I think Mike Tom was going to look at him immediately and be like, oh, you're a guy who doesn't like to turn the ball over. Great. I appreciate that. You can play for me. And we've got these big receivers now. We're for Shadour,

and one of the ways I think he'll be able to succeed in the league is being able to identify those one-on-one matchups pre-snap and take chances, right? That was what Joe Burrow did early in his career. And I don't think that Shador Sanders is stealing, is Joe Burroughs. But I think that one of the things that he can do to really serve himself is understanding when he can take those chances. So that way he's not hanging in the pocket and taking unnecessary punishment, trying to wait for something to come open. And I think that this is a right environment because they're going to build in the trenches. They're going to try to surround

them with a run game. They do like big body driver receivers and they develop that position well. And you know you're always going to have a defense that's at least competent on the other side. So even if he doesn't play at all in 2025, if you get to 2026 and 27, and now this guy's taking some time to learn the pro game, this is probably the best timeline for him to be successful. All right. Ruiz, you on board, Chador Sanders in Pittsburgh, or you still want to see Rogers? No, I'm on board, and I don't think Bringing in Rogers

prevents you from bringing in Sanders. It would be funny to see Rogers sign with them and then them draft a quarterback immediately in the 20s like the Packers did a couple years ago with Jordan Love. I have a confession to make. I've been watching more and more of Sanders, kind of like them as a prospect more than I thought I would. Hey, Gino has been the cop for some, so that shouldn't be too shocking.

Okay, that's blasphemous. Now I hate it. All right, I'm off, I'm off. All right, let's remember. I'm done. There you go. All right, 22 Deonté has the Los Angeles Chargers. What do you got?

They're actually in a beautiful position right now because they've got, there are players available at multiple positions of need for them. You can take a swing at corner and, like a Chavon Ravel, who's maybe a little bit more of a projection given the fact that he's coming off of an injury. That kind of sideline him, right? You can bring in a guy like Tyler Booker to play guard if you don't trust that Zion Johnson can step in and be a starter for you. And Booker, I think, is probably the best interior offensive lineman outside of Gray's Abel in this class. You could take a shot at edge. I think the issue there is the most talented edges right now.

We're probably Mike Green and James Pearson. These are two guys. One, obviously, has a much more significant, serious off-field thing in Mike Green, right? And I think that once we get to talking about him being a pick, we can maybe kind of talk about why it is that he's in the later end of the first round. And with James Pierce, we heard a lot at the combine about people not really know it will make some tick as a competitor, not as productive in 2024 after being really hyped up as maybe the next guy in terms of being that speed rusher in Los Angeles could definitely use it.

So I was looking at the board and I realized there's a Michigan guy here. who's a really good football player that would also fit a position to need for them. This is a Kenneth Grant pick for me. Go and give him to play along the interior of the defensive line. I think that that would be a big help for this team. He's not going to be a penetrator and disruptor all the time because of his size, but he can be a gap plugger. He's a guy who can play on first and second down and really kind of add value to their run defense,

which will need some help when you look at the interior of that defensive line. So yeah, Michigan man gets his Michigan guy. This is Tyler Booker playing for the Los Angeles Wolverines. I feel like this is just like the perfect storm for this pick to happen. It's a need. I think just the way he plays as like a nose tackle. Like you think about winning in the trenches when you think about John, or Jim Harbaugh,

and you think about even like a Greg Roman style of offense. And then on the other side, obviously the defense is going to take on that same personality. And like Diombe said, the Michigan connections there. He knows these coaches. It's like telegraphed, basically. Kenneth Grant to the Los Angeles Chargers.

All right. 23rd overall pick, Ruiz, the Green Bay Packers. Who do you got? I mean, I guess we can take Mike Green here if you can ignore the off-field incidents, which I don't think you can ignore at this point. But maybe if he drops down. Two allegations of sexual assault to be clear on what those are. He's denied both of them.

But, I mean, I wouldn't feel comfortable taking him here. Maybe you can go with Donovanezer Raku from Boston College. I think honestly, that's who I'll go with. I'll go with him instead of Mike Green. I think that's a, I don't think there's too much difference between them as prospects and you don't have to deal

with the off the field stuff. So yeah, I'll go with Donovan and Nessaraki from Boston College. All right, there you go. I would have taken Kenneth Grant here if Deonti hadn't taken Kenneth Grant would have made a lot of sense for them as well. I like Geziraku. I like Zerraku for Green Bay because he's a little bit more of a proven commodity as a rusher. So that would

be a little bit of like a personality break for Green Bay where they've tried to bring in these big hulking bodies to play on the edge and hopefully they can turn them into refined past rushers. I think Ezraku, it's not a one-to-one comparison, but I think of Laiatu Latu last year, right? We had a lot of conversation about what kind of edge rusher do you want, right? Do you want a guy who can step in year one? And he's already got a pass rushing bag, so to speak. And you watch Azaraku, and that's definitely evident, right? Like, he uses his hands really well. He can bend a little bit. He knows how to set up some moves. He's a little under size, so you got to talk about what he's going to be on early downs. But we saw Green Bay take

smaller bodies inside the interior, try to use guys on simulated pressures. You know, there are havoc-based defense. I think the Azaraku could work in that kind of defense for Green Bay. So I don't hate that pick. Even if I think that like James Pierce Jr. or Mike Green might be higher ceiling types of swings, I think the Ezraqu can step in on day one and give this team exactly what it needs in terms of past rushing pedigree. Pierce is definitely the high upside pick here. I would be a little sized by the frame. He's a taller guy, lankier guy,

but that's another pick I would consider here. God, I would have loved to see Kenneth Grant drop to them. I'm tired of seeing this team just get pushed around in the run game. It's been like four years now. I'm sure Packers fans are tired of it. That would have been a nice change for them. All right, there you go. I got the Minnesota Vikings up next 24.

They've only got four picks in this draft, one pick in the top 75, two picks in the top 100. They are last in draft capital in the entire NFL. At the same time, they got a very good roster. And so I was looking at this going, man, they really could go in a bunch of different directions. But I think I have my favorite of my picks at least, favorite player scheme fit here. And I'm going Nick Eminwari, the safety from South Carolina. I mean, this is also one of the most interesting first round prospects here.

6.3.2.20, just a ridiculous athletic profile. Again, you know, I was mentioning that relative athletic score. If you look at it for safeties, we're talking over 1,200. He has the highest relative athletic score. And I think it's just not athleticism watching him. I really liked his instincts in zone in coverage. He almost can, you know, he is a hybrid type player that I think Brian Flores will know what to do with. He can play in the box. He can play in the slot. He was playing in the post at time.

So you can really do a lot of different things with him. I liked him quite a bit. One of my favorite guys in the first round. And so we're going to pair him with Brian Flores. There you go. That's my pick. I don't hate that. I mean, Emin Worry is a ball, definitely a ball of clay type.

So in terms of coach scheme versus prospect fit, that makes a lot of sense. And I think that Josh would tell us all these. a decent safety isn't so good that you can't bring in a guy in first round and go compete with them. Obviously, you know, Harrison Smith is getting up there in age. You're going to want to have some kind of preparation for, you know, the day that he walks away from the game or starts to hit that age cliff. And while I don't know that Emin Worry can necessarily be that level of difference maker, all the athleticism is there, right? All the athleticism is there. If he gets the right kind of coaching, he can turn into something. And I kind of like the idea of having him as a move

around piece as well as Byron Murphy who was a move around piece for them on the back end. You can use them as a blitzer. You can use them as a linebacker if need be. I think there are a lot of ways in which Emin Worry can make winning football plays for this team. Even if it's a little bit awkward at first because they're trying to figure out exactly where to drop him in

around the guys that he's playing with. All right. We got the 25th pick, the Houston, Texas. Now is where we see, is there a third quarterback that goes off the board? Now, probably not because we're not doing trades in this one. But again, Again, if this were the real live draft, that's what we'd be talking about.

Willie third quarterback sneak in to the bottom quarter here of the first round. Deontay, the Houston Texans. Who do you got them taking here? Tackles don't, good tackles don't miss the first round. You're drafting this late. If there are tackles available, you cannot afford to play around with what might be available on day two. To me, the most talented guy that's here would be Josh Simmons. You can make an argument for Connerley as well, but I just think you watch Simmons when

He was healthy. You watch what the ceiling can be in terms of his ability to work in past sets. Obviously, a really good athlete, somebody who can do a lot of things for you in the run-in, past game. I think it would be a good fit within this offense. You know, there are a lot of questions about, again, you know, I don't want to say character as though he's a bad decision maker. I think that there are still some things up in the air about what makes him tick,

similar to James Pierce, right, and kind of what he was on a day-to-day basis at Ohio State. But the talent is clearly there. and something like, you know, maybe this guy's a little bit of a jerk, but definitely not scare off somebody like Domingo Ryan's. I think that he would be a good fit in that building, and I think that that's a good situation to get the most out of a player like Simmons.

All right. Texans finally get some offensive line held, some bizarre moves on the offensive line in the offseason. They draft a guy that hopefully can help protect CJ Strat. All right. The Los Angeles Rams, great, you know, they found the joy of actually having a first round pick last year it worked out very well for them. They've got another one in this exercise

picking 26th overall. Ruiz, who do you got? I'm going to make it a run on tackles. I'm going to go with Josh Connerly from Oregon. I think he needs to add some bulk, but I think that can happen in the NFL. You get into an NFL strength and conditioning program. And I just think the Rams need offensive line help. That's always been the thing with Sean McVeigh. The health of the offensive line has been a proxy for the health of the offense. And we saw that throughout the year last year. And I think if they can get better there, just get solidified there for more than one year at a time, maybe they can get something cooking and they're not this team that just pops up as a contender every couple of years. All right. I like that one. They go offensive line

there to the Los Angeles Rams at number 26, Josh Connerly from Oregon. All right, that puts me on the clock here with the Baltimore Ravens. Deonti took Walter Nolan a little early. I thought, Oh, he's the guy I could see kind of falling down there. Yeah, Ravens would really like him, but I can't go with him. I thought as a Raku could also be an option for the Baltimore Ravens in this spot. But, you know, I'm thinking of all the reaction. And, you know, usually the Ravens make a pick. And it's like the Ravens and the Eagles and everyone's going on.

Oh, man, I can't believe. They did it again. There's universal praise. That guy to me here is probably Malachi Stark, the safety from Georgia. So that's who I'll go with Malachi Stark's 6-1-197 high IQ player. Did not have the greatest testing and is a little undersized. But again, he played at Georgia and he played really well at Georgia. So you kind of pair him with Kyle Hamilton back there in that secondary.

He can play a little slot too, even though you have Marlon Humphrey to do that. If there's an injury or you move pieces around, he's just another piece in the secondary for the Baltimore Raven. So that's the pick. Malachi Starrick. Starks out of Georgia, which moves us to, let's see, the final. We got the Lions. Commanders, Bills, Chiefs, and Eagles left. These are the contenders from last year alongside the Ravens, which we just mentioned.

Deante, you're trying to get in the head of Brad Holmes, man. They got their own draft board there. They're not following any of this consensus nonsense. They want to pick someone who they can then rub it in your face a year later and say, you guys all rip me and now look at this player. Who are the Detroit Lions going with at number 28? Oh, there are so many things open for them to do here. That makes it's kind of tricky in a lot of ways.

I do think, I think in a perfect world, you go maybe try to bring in a defensive interior guy who has a high ceiling, right? Just because they do have guys that are starting to approach, you know, starting to get a little bit more advanced in age up front around Aiden Hutchinson. But I think they're trying to find a number two. edge rusher is probably the biggest priority looking at the board right here. I'm going to go with Mike Green here just because the ceiling is so high.

And I do think if there is a team that can look at his situation and say, hey, if he is, we are willing to take a chance on what he's saying being the truth in terms of him not being guilty or having participated in any of the sexual assault allegations that have been levied against him. And if that's the case, then you might get an excellent football player here. And like I said earlier, that is really the reason why we're talking about him in the late 20s. Because you look at him and I mean, he has top 10 talent when you talk about the athletic profile and what he did in terms of production as a pass-fresher-in run defender at Marshall. All right. There you go. Mike Green to the Detroit lines. It worked out again. Ruiz has the Washington commanders. His home, not the team he roots for, but his hometown team, the one his relatives, I believe, root for here.

Ruiz, what are we doing with the Washington commanders at pick number 29? I'm going to go with James Pierce, Jr. here from Tennessee. I think the upside is just too much to pass on. It's a position of need for them. You get the upside, you get the position of need. I think it's a little lower for him. Like 29th is a good value for him. I think any team needs Ed rushing help.

I think this team needs it, especially how they've turned the roster over the last couple of years. Yeah, I would feel very confident in this pick. if I was Washington. But there were some other options they could have gone after. Obviously, like even a running back here,

Marion Hampton would have been an interesting piece to add to that offense, another dynamic playmaker, especially with how they get their ball carriers into space on the perimeter. That would be a tough guy to kind of rain in for the defense. But now I'll go with the eat your vegetables

pick and go in the trenches. I do like that. They eat your, eat your vegetables pick. I'm going to be using that a lot in our podcast here. in the week said it's true. Sometimes you're like, ooh, this guy would be so much fun. But no, we should do the right thing and just draft someone on the line of scrimmage.

All right. I'm up. My last pick, the Buffalo Bills at number 30. I was hoping to get them some pass rush help. Do I like the pass rushers who are on the board or do I go corner here? I'm going to go with corner. Let's go with the guy that Deonti. mentioned before Chavon Ravelle Jr. Cornerback out of East Carolina, 6-2-194.

They tried corner before, did not hit with Kair Elam. They hit later in the draft with Christian Benford. They lost Rasul Douglas in free agency. Revel was a two-year starter, had a season-ending knee injury, but it was in September. So he's got high-end traits, tough physical corner. Chavon Revel Jr. fills a spot there opposite Christian Ben-Ben at corner for the Buffalo Bills. All right.

Final two picks, the Super Bowl participants. Deontay, you've got the Kansas City Chiefs at 31. Who do you got? Oh, man, I'm going to filibuster here because Chavon Roe coming off the board messes up what I thought would happen from Philadelphia. Okay. Like, I think if you're Howie Roseman, you're kind of muttering, you know, got your hand over your mouth muttering a little bit

because it might have been nice to get a guy like Chavon Ruffel there. I think that there are a lot of doors open. for Kansas City at 31 as well. Here, I can fill a buster here for you for a little bit, because I'll tell you some guys who are available just for people wondering, how did this guy not go yet? Tyler Booker is certainly one of them,

interior offensive lineman from Alabama, was a two-year starter at left guard, really considered, you know, tough, smart, good player. Back off of him, by the way. I have the next pick, don't take him. Tested very poorly at the, at the combine. So it depends how much you are concerned about that. But when you look at kind of speed explosion, it was not good. So do you care about that for an interior offensive lineman? Or do you say

he was good on tape? So you've got him, you've got Amari and Hampton, who Ruiz just mentioned running back from North Carolina. I think pretty much the consensus RB2 in this class. Could he end up being a first round pick? And Mecca Igbuka, smart, you know, feels like he can come in and play right away, wide receiver from Ohio State. He's still on the board here. Luther Burden is a player I really like, a slot receiver from Missouri, who I think has a lot of juice and is a really interesting player. He's still on the board here. And then one guy I just considered with that Bill's pick, I was picking between Ravel and Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle from Oregon. So he's another player who's still on the board here. All right, yeah, I think

I did a good job. That might have been my standard. out moment for 25 podcasting right there. I mean, not only that, but you literally named all the guys that I have on my list now. And that's why it's so tough, right? Because these are very disparate ideas of how to approach the draft. I'm really caught between whether or not I don't want

to do Luther Burden here, because I think that there are a lot of ways in which he's a don't do it. We don't need another one of these players in Kansas City. Please, no. And I think that, well, I think the versatility that's there, if they were able to make it work with Rishie Rice, I think that that room probably looks at Luther Bird and says,

what is everybody missing here? This is a guy who can play in the slide. He can play outside. He has real speed. He has good hands. Yes, the production dipped. But I would say that the situation was just kind of a mess in Missouri form last year. He didn't get the best situation to make the most of them.

But I want to go, I'm going to take my vegetables here. I'm going to take a versatile guy who can play inside and outside on the offensive line. I'm going to take Donovan Jackson, somebody who can compete. At the tackle spot, if it doesn't work, and Kingsu Suam, Atea isn't ready to play guard. You know, he can play guard. This is more a natural spot. I think that that's a nice building block to have. And if it wasn't going to be him or burden, it would have been Derek Harmon.

So there are a lot of doors open for Philadelphia after this. But I think that if you look at what costs this team to Super Bowl, it's the fact that they weren't able to protect Patrick Mahomes in the biggest game. All right. Deonté, debating between offensive line and wide receiver. again, eats his vegetables, takes the discipline pick there with Donovan Jackson, which leads us to Ruiz, with the Eagles, whoever they pick here will be universally applauded. There will be Howie sees and tweets. There will be how he does it again. How did he get away with this? The memes,

all of that. Ruiz, who is going to be that guy for the Eagles at number 32? I mean, if I'm going for like maximum Howie celebration, I'll probably go with burden. I mean, obviously, they have two great wide receivers, but obviously they care about that third wide receiver spot. They invested draft capital to bring in Dotson last year. I'll go with burden, because I do think this is like the value pick here. This is how you like everyone knows his name, everyone knew about him. This is the perfect how he picked. Tyler Booker is the other guy I'm considering.

Obviously, there's the athleticism concerns. But the guy can play and you give, you pair him up with Jeff Stalblin and you have a hole at that guard position. But I'll go with burden. I'll go with the Howie pick and Howie gets the tweets, how he gets, you know, he's trending on Twitter, and I'm sure he'll be happy about that. We get the, you know, the, here's the Eagle starting lineup. Yes, who's stopping this? Yeah, who's stopping this.

It would actually fit for this. Yeah, AJ Brown, Devante Smith. I can quote tweet and say Jalen Hertz and get some likes. Luther Burden. So there you go. Luther Burden, the 32nd overall pick. All right, I'm going to run these down real quick. Titans take, Cam Ward, Browns, Travis.

Travis Hunter. Three at the third pick. Giants take Abdul Carter. Fourth pick, Patriots take Will Campbell. Fifth pick, Jaguars take Mason Graham. Sixth pick. Raiders take Armand Membo. Seventh pick, Jets take Ted McMillan. Eighth pick. Panthers. Will Johnson. Ninth pick, Jalen Walker to the Saints.

10th pick, Chicago Bears, Mikel Williams. 11th pick. The San Francisco 49ers end up with Ashton Gentie. most fun pick in our first round mock here. Number 12, Cowboys take Tyler Warren. 13. Dolphins, Kelvin Banks. 14th, Colts, Colston, Loveland. 15th, Falcons, Jihad Campbell. 16th pick. We've got the Cardinals with Walter Nolan. 17th, Bengals, Jade Barron. 18th, Seahawks, Gray Zabel.

19th. The Bucks takes Shamar Stewart. 20th. The Broncos go Matthew Golden. 21st, the Steelers end up with Chodor Sanders with the 21st pick-in-hour mock. 22nd, Chargers go Kenneth Grant, 23 Packers, Donovan Ezeroq, as a Roku. 24th, Vikings, Nick Eman Worry, 25. Texans, Josh Simmons, 26, Rams, Josh Connerly, Jr. 27, Ravens Malachi Stark. 28, Lions take Mike Green.

29, commanders take James Pierce, Jr. Bill's Chavon Ravelle, Jr. 31st, Chiefs take Donovan Jackson, and 32, the Eagles take Luther Burden. That is the ringers NFL first mock draft to 2025. Ruiz, how do you feel about it? I feel like I got a good haul with my teams. How many teams did I have? Like 12, 11?

I don't know how to do math. But yeah, I got 11 future pro bowlers in all pro players. You're feeling good, like a proud fantasy owner there. All right, Deiote, how do you feel? I feel like I did what I always do, man. Like I'm a trenches guy. I'm a trenches, defense guy. I'm going to eat your vegetables guy, right?

And I think that most of my picks kind of reflected that. I wasn't thinking about being too adventurous here. We stay within a straight and narrow path. He's anti-Hawie. He's like, he's the GM who all the fans complain about it. Every draft man, they're like, oh, my God, another boy. It's so boring. Yes.

Yes, I'm the packers, right? I'm getting fired after like a year. I'm picking running backs with the 49ers, you know. All right, there you go. So those were the 32 picks. We'll be back later this week. We're going to look at various NFC and AFC teams and go over. How much confidence do you have in these teams to nail the draft?

Go over some of the track records of these GMs, these decision makers, what's at stake for each of them here. So we're going to do that later this week and we'll do that next week as well. A lot of draft content still to come, like I mentioned, we will do one more mock draft before the actual draft where we just do some on-the-fly trades. We'll switch up. Who gets which teams? That one will be a lot of fun as well. All right.

Thank you to Stephen Ruiz and Deontay Lee. Thanks to Christopher Sutton for producing Kiera Givens on social. Additional production supervision by Conorne Evans and Arjuna. I'm Shil Kapadia. We'll talk to you next time on The Ringer NFL show.