The Ringer NFL Show - What Are the NFL’s Least Watchable Teams?

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

After drafting the most watchable teams in the NFL last week, Danny Heifetz, Ben Solak, and Steven Ruiz return to draft and discuss the least watchable teams this season. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Benjamin Solak, and Steven Ruiz Associate Producer: Mike Wargon Additional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal and Conor Nevins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Plus, maybe Bill will stop by to rant about the socks. Follow off the pike with me, Brian Barrett, now on Spotify. Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. My name is Danny Hyphitz, and I am joined by Stephen Ruiz and Ben Solick. And today we are doing the least watchable teams in the NFL this season. We're going to do a draft style. We're doing a snake draft. And we're going to be drafting what teams do you not want to watch in 2022?

Stephen is the first pick. I'm going second. Why are we doing this podcast? Because last week we did most watchable teams. We did the most watchable teams. And we did a draft. What happened? Solac is the preseason winner of the draft.

Yes. Based on what? Based on the teams I got there. Sweet Pete, I got the bills, the Chiefs, and somebody else get it. I won't even pretend. Select won the draft. When you got the two teams from that playoff game,

Ravens. Select won the draft. Yes. I just want to make sure we, in the intro, if you haven't listened to that pod, make sure you just go hop on back and listen to that, John. And yeah, now Stephen can go, whatever. Well, the real reason that we did that pod was to do this one,

because we really just wanted to talk about the least watchable teams. How do you win this one? By getting the worst teams or getting the best teams? Well, if you kind of consider it as like, immunity from having to watch these teams, then yeah, whoever has the worst draft will do the best draft. That's quite like that, yeah.

So there you go. Yeah, Stephen, kick us off here. You get the first pick, every team in the NFL. Who is the team that you want to watch the least in 2020? Who do you think I'm saying? The Carolina of Panthers? Oh, no, no.

I think they're interesting. I wanted you to pick your favorite team so badly. Let's play a game. Can you name three Houston Texans receivers? Nico Collins, Brandon Cooks, Chris Conley. I was, yeah, Chris Conley. You're talking to a draft psycho and a fantasy guy.

Exactly. You know why I actually would? I also Googled. I also was looking at their depth chart because I was going to ask that question too. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. The roster is not interesting in any way.

Stingley, I want to watch. He's the only player on this team that I want to watch. Which is a sicko move. Like, he's a rookie cornerback. Like, let's be real, 95% of people who cares about a rookie cornerback. Right. So that's not going to get you any points.

No one's going to watch. for Stingley on the broadcast camera. But I, and Davis Mills is a problem for me because he's a boring quarterback. That's the thing about Davis Mills that people don't realize. They see him. He's tall. He's one. And he went to Stanford.

They're like, this is like, this is like one of those project quarterbacks that you draft and he has a big arm. No, no, he's not. He doesn't have a big arm. He has like a okay arm. He throws a nice go ball every now and then. But go balls are like the go-to weapon for the quarterbacks that are that are, that are, I don't know what to call them.

What should I call them, Ben? I don't know. I'm just wondering how closely we're going to brush into Joe Burrow criticism here. Oh, no. I'm not going to get into that. Okay. Because Joe Burrow does it because he has Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. That makes sense.

It's the idea of the go-ball. Right. The go-ball is like this 50-50 proposition of maybe getting an explosive play. And if like that's the best thing that you bring as a quarterback, it's like, right, it's fine. And like doing it fast and choosing to do it like in a Ben Rothberger where we just like hit it right now. It's like, good. But there's way.

way more meat on the bone. Yeah. So people look at like the deep perimeter throws and they're like, oh, those are like the big boy throws. And I disagree. Like Ben Rafflesberger led the league in perimeter go balls by like double number two in the league because he just would get the snap and then he would just chuck it down field because he was afraid to get hit and he didn't want to hold on to the ball.

And that's like Davis Mills. Davis Mills is like a young old Ben Rathesberger where he just won't be a young old. A young old one. I think it's funny that you're basically saying that people associate David's Davis Mills with the go ball because I would actually say of when people think about Davis Mills nothing. No one thinks about Davis Mills and no one ever has. Right. Yeah. They actually don't associate him with the go ball because they associate him with looking like Mike Lennon and that's it. Yeah. And having a huge neck. But that's my whole thing is use the

neck. Use the neck. Stay in the pocket. You would think like a long neck would help you in the pocket. But with him, he doesn't use it. Use that neck. So like, would you also take the Texans first as the least watchable team? Because they were also number one on my list. No, they were number two for me. I have a number one. Yeah. So I thought about this a lot. Oh, I'm torn.

For this exercise, I have two teams here. One makes me feel angrier and the other I'm just more disgusted by and it couldn't decide about watchable because part of me thinks that maybe hatred is a good source for watching. I'm not sure. But I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with the Chicago Bears. Because I think the only reason you would watch the Chicago Bears is to gather evidence if you were trying to prosecute them at the Hague. for crimes against justice kids. And maybe this is not quite the exercise

because maybe if I'm feeling anger that is watchable and that's content. But like it's, they're literally a second year quarterback, new coach, new coordinator, worst O-line and wide receivers. I look this up.

None of the wide receivers he's playing with have above a 79 on Madden. I love that. That's the barometer. It honestly kind of works where it's like none of the receivers that he's playing with matter in the national scope.

I mean, it's kind of like watching, you know those videos where like a, a snake gets hold of an animal and you have to kind of watch like the animal try to rest out. But it's not like they had a guana video where it escapes. It's like the snake just eats the thing. That's like the Bears video.

It's three hours of Justin Fields trying to escape and it's not going to work. And like I'd actually not, I'd rather watch anything except that. Am I off here? Do you guys want to watch the Bears? I think you're off just because Justin Fields is there. And like even if he's bad, it's still going to be interesting to watch like him be bad and become a bust. So I disagree. And he's a fun player.

I get it. I get it, but there's definitely right. The way you primed it of like, is hatred or reason to watch. Like, that makes sense to me in the sense, like, in the sense that like, I probably will watch the Bears at some point this year when I want to get mad about the fact that they're ruining fields. As opposed to the Texans, like the Texans, I just cannot conceive of a reason why I would like to watch the team. For the Bears, it's like, all right, it's week 12, like everything. There's no good four o'clock games. So, oh, the Bears are playing the Packers.

Let's watch them get demolished and then tweet mean things about Ryan Pace. Like, to me, that's a good afternoon. Like, that'll work. And so they get a little bit of a watchability boost for that reason. But if you're a Bears fan, is there any reason to be excited for the team this year? Because you can't even look forward. Like, at least the Jets, you can, I mean, if Zach Wilson were in his hurt, it's like, okay, it's evening you're not making the playoffs,

it's still about Zach Wilson's development. Is there any reason as a Bears fan you should be excited about 2020? It still is about Fields Development. like he can be better than he was last year independent of the context like there were plays last year that were like well blocked up and like the route was actually accurate and he like missed the throw like there's like development

to be had to me like there's not as much difference between the watching the bears and watching the jets in that way where you're like watching for improvement it just sucks as a Bears fan knowing they could have done more to help him you're still like watching because you're interested to see if this rookie quarterback looks like anything that is a silver lining a you know

a bright spot anything to kind of like tether your hopes onto okay solek You got back to back picks here. I feel like you're going to take the other team I was between Chicago. I don't know. We'll find out. My number one seed was the Washington commanders.

Yes. Because I just like, a couple years ago, I would have been like, yeah, like, I'd like to go watch Wentz be bad. Like, that'll be fun. And now I just don't, I just don't care anymore. I'm just over it, right? Like, like Stephen got into the debate

with some person about Wentz the other day where it was like, basically he was like, yeah, he had a 27 to 7 touchdown interception. season. Also, his team did everything they could to get rid of him. They didn't even have a succession plan in place. And by EPA, he was horrendous. Like, everybody knows. And I kind of looked at, I was like, yeah, like, at this point, like,

it's just not even like, there's nothing there for me. Like, even like having been a guy who rooted for Wentz as of three years ago, I just, it doesn't stir up anything in me to watch him wear Washington. Like, it's a division rival. I'm just like, yeah, I don't care. And then I go on, I look at the rest of the team, and it's just like, all right,

Terry's good. Like, John Allen was fun a couple years ago, but now it's like boring. Like they haven't like, there's nothing new about the team. They drafted a first round receiver and a second round running back and I'm still like their past,

their offensive weapons don't. There's nothing. Like you go defense. It's Jack Del Rio. You think I want to watch Jack Del Rio coach a defense? Like it's Jack Del Rio. Number two, they don't do anything interesting. Like I just, there's no team in the league

about which I am more tepid than Washington from a purely football perspective. And then you like, why do you like, why do you're like, yeah, dance fighters dodging Congress. You're like, all right, if they put that on the the field. That would be more interesting, but they don't put down the field on Sundays. It's just something you read about in the newspaper on Tuesdays. So Washington, to me,

is just eminently unwatchable. You can't spell subpar. Hit me, Stephen. Can you? I agree with the Wednesday. It's like gone past the point where he's like fun bad and now he just like can't hit like basic throws and he's just hesitating in the pocket. It's not fun. No one wants to see that. It's like a like a past his prime musician. who like did a bunch of drugs when they were younger still performing. It's like, come on. Enough. Here's my question.

I think there's two things about Washington that are interesting to think about this season. The first is they had a preseason game this year where tickets were going for $1. Stephen, you and I live in Washington, D.C. How much would you need to be paid? How much would you pay to not go to the game? Because I would certainly pay a dollar to not go to a Washington game. How much would you pay to not attend? Like, you have to drive an hour to go see this team.

No, yeah. It's in the worst part of Maryland, too. Landover Maryland. It's not even in D.C. Well, Kevin Clark tried to get me to go to this game. I think I would pay $50 to not go to a Washington. They were trying to pay me to go to the game, and I still did not go to the game. So there's your answer.

This is funny because when I did Locked on NFL draft for Trevor Sycambe, we were covering the draft. We would do a thing every Friday where we would find like, ESPN lists the ticket prices for all of these college games. You can go to Ken State Ball State for $3 right now. This is incredible. And that was a funny bit because it's ridiculous that it costs $3 to go to a game. Never what I've ever told you, even in the preseason, that would have been possible for an NFL team.

That's just outside of the realm of reality. Lo and behold, Dan Sider. Having said that, Solek, you mentioned being an Eagles fan. There are two games on this schedule that I actually think are like appointment television for Washington. the Eagles play Washington at home. The Eagles host Washington. Carson Wentz returning to Philly in week 10 on Monday night football. And we were kind of robbed of Ben Simmons going back to Philadelphia and playing for the Nets.

True. But like, can you explain how much, like what the temperature of Philadelphia fans booing Carson Wens will be like when Wentz comes back to play them on Monday to football? See, like, that's the thing is like, this is my thing is I think that they will boo him. I think they won't like that he's there. I don't think he'll be booed anymore like Tom Brady was or Tony Romo was. Oh, that's so disappointing. I think they'll boo him.

I think they'll be like, ah, like, you know, like he'll get sacked and they'll catch the Eagles fans and they'll be cheering. But I don't think, if this was like right after he left or if he was like actually good,

sure, but like, no, like it's, you know, like, the Eagles and Wentz broke up and since then the Eagles arrow has just massively pointed up. They've lost some weight. They found somebody new, they got a new job, it's great.

And Wentz's arrows just been pointing, Like, it's, you know, you know, then Eagles fans don't like to, like, Eagles fans like to be like underdoggy a little bit more than like this, where it's just like, oh, this sad guy is here and we're going to boo him, obviously. You know, boom. But it's not going to be the same. Eagles fans don't want to boo you. You know that you're not watchable.

So who's your other team, Solek? Yeah, that's rough. I think I'm taking the Panthers. Keep pounding, baby. I think the Panthers sound watchable in theory, because the idea of a Sam Darnold, Baker, Mayfield, quarterback carousal sounds a lot. But then you actually have to watch the game, right?

Where you're like, wow, like, it's different to be like, I'm interested in how chaotic the Panthers get over the course of the next several weeks. And to say, like, I would like to watch Sam Darnold inserted into a six to 16 game with eight minutes left in the third quarter dropping back on third and seven when I can't even name a single one of their offensive linemen. Like that, there's nothing that, like, they do schematically. Like, I like, DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson. that's not enough for me to really get interested.

Like, all right, like, you know, like Phil Snow's got kind of a cool defense, I guess. Like, they're big and they're fast and they run around. But, like, that only lasted for a few weeks last year. And then we were like, all right, the Panthers still suck. They're still terrible. And while I think-McCaffrey. Yeah, McCaffrey, I think there's, like, ways that you talk yourselves into the Panthers being watchable.

But when you really sit down and think about it, you are voluntarily choosing to watch one of Baker, Mayfield, or Sam Darnold, play for a bad team. And critically, for, like, a coaching staff that we simply know it's not going to be there next year. Like, there's no, like, I wonder if they can change their future. Like, oh, what a, it's a comeback now. Like, Matt Rule is gone. There's no doubt in my mind about that. So watching is kind of like, all right, well, I'm just watching a slow march to death for a bunch of, like, mediocre members of this nucleus, like quarterback and head coach and whatever. To me,

it's not interesting. So keep pounding is my second pick there. Stephen, you're a Panthers fan. This is why, this is why draft performance is volatile. See, so like it's, so like it's, well last week. Oh, come on. He's doing terribly this week. The Panthers are not a bad team to watch. They have Robbie Anderson, who is very fast and very fun. They have DJ Moore, who's a very fun player.

Christian McCaffrey's a fun player. Baker Mayfield is still, he still hasn't passed that point that Wentz has, where it's still fun when he's bad. Disagree? And then on the defense, Brian Burns, Jeremy Chin's a fun player. J.C. Horn's here. Like, there are good players.

It's a fun team to watch. Everybody you just named, but Baker Mayfield, was on the team last year. many Panthers game you willingly watched last year? You're a fan of the team. Three. That's not my, that's my case. Live.

Live. Stephen, you are so hard on everybody else's teams. And the second we're hard on your team, you're like, but Jeremy Chin is a good safety to watch. It's like, so like is dead right where he's like, it sounds cool to watch Baker Mayfield on a revenge tour. I think that Christian McCaffrey is obviously fun to watch. But the intriguing part is like, oh, what if Baker, you know, is like to fire.

and just kind of goes like he had that last season in Oklahoma where he's interesting. But Solex's right in that. But once you get to like the second quarter of the first Panthers game, you watch and you realize, oh, he's actually like not that good. This isn't worth it. Yeah. It's nothing interesting. I can't believe Stephen tried to hit me with.

Here's a list of players that were on the team last year when I know for a fact he was avoiding Panthers games like the plague. Okay. But that's besides a point. Anyway, that's the entire point. That's the entire point. No, it isn't. Three games is a lot of games.

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I think there's a tear drop, but I'm still going to take a team. Now, speaking of Homer bias, I probably should take the New York Giants, but I'm just not going to. I'm going to take the Seattle Seahawks because I just don't care about the Seahawks. I think they have D.K. Metcalfe, who understandably, D.K. Metcalfe is such a fun player to watch. Tyler Lockett's cool. Tyler Lockett will not be cool. The second Russell Wilson's gone.

I feel like I'll be watching, like, a haunted football team. just the ghost of Russell Wilson, I just couldn't care less about the Pete Carroll like running the ball, the defense is terrible. The Storks don't, like other than D.K. Metcalfe who just don't, I don't think will be very interesting to watch with Gino Smith. There's nothing intriguing to me about the Seattle Seahawks. I cannot imagine wanting to watch them for really any reason this year.

I'm fuming underneath. This is a, no, no, you're wrong again. It's a bit. It's not just Gino Smith. It's not just Gino Smith. It's D.K. McCaff, in Tyler, Those are exciting players. I don't know how you could just brush them aside.

Sean Penny is a fun player. They're going to have the ball. They're going to do the Rams offense. The Rams pass a lot. I disagree with everything. And then the defense is taking like an interesting steps towards evolving like Pete Carroll promoted Clint Hurd. He hired a couple of assistants.

Carl Scott. Yeah. So they're going to do fun things on defense. I totally disagree. Yeah. So why am I wrong? Here's two. Here's one thing with the C.

because I have the Seahawks ranked like decently highly in terms of like teams I would draft low in watchability. Because what what they are is like unlike the Texans and the commanders who are at like the end of train wrecks, the Seahawks are maybe at the beginning of a train wreck, which is more interesting, right? Like if the Seahawks are going to be like total chaos, like we're handing it to Rashad Penny 30 times a game, Gino Smith can't complete a pass on third down. We're trying to run too high stuff and Jamal Adams can't cover anybody. like that will be at least watchable for the first few weeks where it's like

okay, this is like this is absurd, this is disgusting like it's the beginning of the train wrecks, there's still a newness to it. I also do think that there's a chance that like, the Seahawks are generally fine because like I don't trust Ron Rivera or Jack Del Rio. I don't trust Matt Ruhle,

Phil Snow. I don't trust Lovey Smith and Tim Kelly, who's a Texan's office coordinator? But in terms like Pete Carroll... Oh, Pap, yeah, you're right. Okay, I kind of trust Pep a little bit. But in terms like Pete Carroll in Seattle, I trust them to keep games competitive,

which is the nut graph, the core of the Seahawks as a decently watchable team argument boils down to, as all things Seattle do, the Kevin Clark tweet. The Seahawks don't play normal games. They really don't.

And so, like, yes, the Seahawks on paper are as bad roster-wise as a lot of these teams and, like, probably aren't watchable. But I do absolutely think that at some point in Week 11 at 7, 15, p.m., I'm going to be watching a overtime game 13-13 Cardinal Seahawks and be like,

this is living, baby. Like, the fact that they have got into this game is fun. I have faith in Seattle to retain their identity from the Russell Wilson era of just being in weird games. And being in weird games is watchable. I'm not going to make the argument that Gino Smith is a good quarterback, but he's a fun quarterback. You are and have made that argument. And you would also like to make that argument. But I think of the Syawks is 80% of why I would watch is probably to watch Russell Wilson throw to D.K. Metcalf. I've never once thought of Gino Smith as a fun quarterback. I'm curious what you made by that.

He throws the ball downfield. He's not afraid. He plays. He's a gamer. He's a gamer. He's a gamer. He's a gamer. See, you're not grinding enough preseason tape.

That's the problem. So do you think that the Sears offense is still going to be like a downfield attacking in a way? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay. It's going to be play action and they're going to throw downfield. All right.

Well, now you have two picks in a row. So now you can take the teams that I should have taken. Okay, the Giants. The Giants, of course. Yeah, the Giants. Do I need to explain this? Like, even, like, the most exciting player on paper, is it still Saquan Barclay? I don't know if it is.

He's, like, sad. He's, like, his career hasn't gone the way that we thought. We're going to watch him average three yards of carry and get 200 carries. No, no one wants to watch that. No one wants to watch Daniel Jones. I don't think the defense is as interesting as it could have been if they kept James Bradbury. So I've kind of lost interest there.

And I don't know. There's nothing. nothing that compels me to watch this team. Maybe Cadarius Tony, but is he going to play? No, he's not. Okay. So why should I watch? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, why isn't Kidaris Tony?

He's just always hurt. Yeah. The way I look at, he had twice as many injury designations that starts last year. Like, how many times, like he's 23 years old, he's getting rest days, like he's a 32-year-old veteran, and now he's a hamstring injury. He's basically had, like, nine different injury designations. It's like, it's like a Paris Campbell situation. Like, in theory, he's an NFL player, but.

Yeah, right. I think you're right, because. the reality is even Daniel Jones, now that he's not turning the ball over so egregiously, he's not even interesting. And he's not even bad in an interesting way. He's just kind of like there. Yeah. He like improved a little too much in that regard where now he's just like Andy Dalton.

And no one wants to watch Andy Dalton. Yeah, you're probably right. All right. I have no, I have no comeback. Who's your other team? The Titans. I mean, and that's, and this is a, this is more of a testament to like the, the watchability of the NFL this year.

like there's depth to how many watchable teams there are. And the Titans, I'm just picking them because their wide receiver situation is very sad. And there's a chance that the wheels fall off with Derek Henry. And then if it's Ryan Tannahill

against the world, the world's gonna win in like, in like five seconds. The Titans are a low-key good sleeper pick. The Titans are on my list. Because like, they just, they've won a lot of games.

And it's a testament to them that they won these games. They were running close games. They were winning turnover battles. But they were winning very ugly football games. Like, as a man who was very closely, watching the Titans last year, trying to understand how they were the number one seat in the

AFC. I'm here to tell you, it was not really fun to watch the Titans, like, run Dantrol Hilliard on second and eight to get to third and six to then, like, throw a contested glance to Nick Westbrook Aquina for seven yards to then just do it all over again. Like, it was, it was very laborious football. It was winning football, and Titans fans aren't allowed to get mad at me, but it was hard to watch at times. Well, even Derek Henry, like, no one wants to say this, but the reality is Derek Henry

stopped making a ton of people miss. Like, it's not like Barry's saying. Sanders or either players where it's like even a two-yard run can be really fun. Derek Henry, it's more like if Derek Henry, the games he gets 30 carries in a game, 20 of them are pretty freaking boring. Two of them, he'll have a cool stiff arm. And then he'll just have like three or four different runs of like 20, 40, 97 yards. But the other 20 carries are actually really boring.

And when you're watching the Titans, even Titans fans probably know this deep down, it's like the majority of Titans games, even the best player on their team, isn't actually fun to watch. The little two-minute condensed YouTube version of the Titans game is all you need. The highlights. They are, they're a war of attrition team. And while that is a respectable way to win football games, it does not play on television. Wars of attrition.

Very boring. And bad uniforms. We haven't talked about uniforms nearly enough. You're the only one who talks about uniforms in these conversations. What is with you and Riley McAtee on uniforms? People love uniforms. What are you guys talking about? Okay.

So you don't like the Titans uniforms? No, they're awful. I love having an opinion about a uniform. like 4 p.m. on a Tuesday in May. Like when we can all come together as a football Twitter community and point to the Falcons gradient and be like,

idiots! Dumb! Very bad! That's a good day. I'm having a great time. Me and my friends just yelling at the Falcons, it's awesome. Once we actually get like teams on the field, usually I'm like, all right, those uniforms are dumb, now let's move on. What do you know? It's like your favorite uniform.

If you were in charge, for me, it's the Saints all black with the gold helmets? No, I don't know. The Saints all white. Yeah, the saints all whites. Yes. You like the saints, all white uniforms over the states. They're amazing. They're amazing. All white uniforms are clean.

They're so nice. A combo than black and gold in color scheme. There's black and gold on like a white canvas. It's very nice. It's very good. Yeah, uniforms matter. Like you don't like if there's like a sad browns game, the game's just a little more sad because the browns colors.

And I think it matters. It matters. I can't think it's one of the saints. The saints. There was a game two years ago where the Falcons wore those gradient uniforms, and they played the lions who were wearing their all-gray color rush uniforms. And it was the ugliest game in the NFL history. And that game was, I remember that game.

That game was a close, tight game to the end. And even while you're watching it, you're like, man, he's not ready. I will give you that game. It's like a bad optical illusion. Okay, so whose turn is? Did I just, oh, Stephen, you just went. Oh, so it's my turn again? Yeah.

I have to say, I think there's a teardrop here because I got to tell you, because this is the eighth pick. I actually think at this point where officially these teams are kind of watchable now. So I'm going to say this, but it's not really a dig. I'm going to take the Jets.

And I have to say, like, the Jets are still, like relatively watchable. Like they have like, receivers are pretty solid. Like Garrett Wilson and Elijah Moore of fun, Brise Hall, Michael Carter, good running backs.

It's just like, man, if Jack Wilson's out, Joe Flacco is the quarterback. I'm like, man, I don't care about watching the Joe Flacco leading the freaking Jets.

I just, I can't do it. Now, admittedly, they're more watchable than like this exercise, but dude, I just have no interest in Joe. Although week one, I guess he's against the Ravens,

which is kind of fun, but that's it. Is it, like, who cares? Like, Joe Flacco is a guy that doesn't say anything and tries to stay away from the spotlight as much as possible. I don't even think it's going to matter. Another thing with the Jets is their uniforms also don't work well because they're all green and they're on, like, on grass. So it looks bad during day games.

Well, they were, weren't they just, they were green and white originally? Was it because of the Hess family on the, team at one point or that they actually predate? I don't know, Jet Flores. You're the New Yorker here, baby. I don't know the answer to this question. I actually think that's a good point.

Maybe they should change their field like Boise State. Just do like a different color. Do the Eastern Washington bright redfield, baby. That's, that's, if you want your watch some film and have your eyes hurt. That's bad Cooper Cup film, oh, horrible. But we're not out of campus. Joe Flacko's lighting it, lighting it out. Yeah, baby.

You're not interested in that? It's kind of funny because Flacko, low-key outplayed Sam Darnold too. So if he outplayed Zach Wilson, it's like it's become a tradition of Joe Flacco just revealing to the Jets that their young quarterback isn't who they thought he was.

Can you imagine being a Jets fan? I mean, sorry if Sean Fennis is listening. Can you imagine being a Jets fan and now, yeah, you're right, twice now. The quarterback you've taken with a top three pick in the draft got hurt replaced by Joe Flacco and everyone's like, yeah, I mean, hell, maybe it probably makes them better. Are we talking about when the Jets

drafted like a young project quarterback with a great arm and bad feet who was inconsistent in college and then did it again. Are we talking about that that sequence? And can't create explosive plays out of structure. So you basically say exact Wilson, Sam Donald again. You know, it's funny. I'm watching, I don't spoil it on the odds, but I'm watching this new season of Master Chef where it's like all the previous people who like lost that other seasons of Master Chef

are brought back. And it's like the mega Master Chef where they all get a second chance to do with the season, right? And the first thing they had to do was make the dish that you got eliminated for last time. That sucks. Which is really, yeah. But here's the thing. One of these guys made it to the final of season six, Stephen, ironically his name, Stephen. And he made it the final season six.

He had to make a panacotta and it was too liquidy. And it comes back. That's what happens. Panicata is too liquid again. You can't make the same mistake again when you get a second chance. And that's the thing. They got the same darnal thing. They get to do it again.

And it's like, oh my God, you just took the same guy. Yes. That's tough. I cannot emphasize enough how much I'm the Yes, Chad meme right now. When they took Wilson, it was like, wow, I wonder if the exact same thing is going to happen in New York as happened four years ago. And lo and behold, here we are. History rhymes. With that said, Salk, you get the last pick here. So who's your last pick for the watchable?

You said there was a tier drop. There was one team that I had still ranked among my like decently unwatchable teams. And you said, sorry, Sean Fennessey, if you're listening. I'll say sorry Bill Simmons if you're listening. The New England Patriots are not I don't enjoy watching the team I love watching the four games of the year

where like Belichick's defense is like a shockingly good performance against like the Ravens and the bills like watching like you know the way they played like the Chargers last year was really cool and the way they played the bills in the in the freezing game

was like interesting you know I'm saying there's like there's one-offs where on the all 22 when I'm like football nerding out I'm loving it but on like a Sunday when I would like to be

entertained. And we just got, you know, Mack throwing crossers to Jacobi Myers. They genuinely have no interesting players to watch. You could even argue me that the Texans, like, I mean, went first in this draft. Damien Pierce, at least the running back's probably interesting. And then Brandon Cooks is like the least boring.

But Brandon Cooks is better than any receiver the Patriots have. I mean. Yes. I mean, like, how many times can you remember? Like, there are several times in my head I can remember where like, it's an NFL Sunday. I'm watching the games I wanted to watch. And then all of a sudden, it's like,

the Patriots are up on the on the, the Browns, right? Like they kill the Browns. They're up on the Browns like, like 21 to 7. I'm like, oh, cool. And then I never ever think

I put it in the game on. I just don't even, I don't really care what that looks like. Yeah, like if, you know, Jacobi Myers throws a reverse touchdown to Nelson Aguor,

I'll see it on, there'll be a clip on Twitter. Like, that'd be the only reason I would really tune in is like, that's a cool play. Another than that's like, right,

they're going to run some good schemes and win some third downs with tight man coverage. It's going to force an incompletion. good special tunes it's just not like I have so much respect for Bill Belichick in the way the Patriots win games but it's like the Titans argument a little bit but to me there's not like if I'm like

here let's watch them no I'm not I'll watch the Patriots on Tuesday I would pay any amount of money to see Bill Belichick react to what Solac just said you'd be so disappointed in you would you pay more than you would pay to not go to a Washington yes yes it's like let's put them up against a team

like the Falcons for example where like the Falcons That was the other team I had. Yes. The Falcons aren't going to be good. The Falcons are going to have very embarrassing games. The Falcons have a bad defense. They're going to lose. However, I'm going to watch.

I got Marcus Mariotto, who's like fun to root for a cool dude, throwing a Kyle Pitts and Drake London. Like that in and of itself, just, it's above Mac throwing to Devonty Parker. I'm sorry. Okay. Here's a team that we haven't named yet that I think is way overrated in terms of watchability, because it's kind of become a meme. And that's the Lions.

I'm sorry. The Lions are not watchable. let's stop pretending they're watchable just because Dan Campbell says funny things and press conferences and they're good on hard knocks. It's not going to translate to actual games. I kind of agree, but the problem is,

like, I was at Lions Camp and I'm doing like a big piece on their defense, and so I'm actually very interested to see what the defense looks like. So I'm biased on that one, but I also was like, oh, I can't put the lines. Lines are fun. And I thought I was like, wait a minute. They're fun, but also bad.

I actually, while we're talking about overrated teams that like were probably pretending are more watchable than they are. The other team I had the Colts. Or the Colts actually watchable? Matt Ryan is the most boring person in the entire NFL. Michael Pittman is like the most boring good receiver. Do you actually want to watch the Colts or do you just think you should because they're probably going to win the division?

I think it, yeah, I think it's kind of a combination, but I think they're going to be good enough. And then Jonathan Taylor's fun. So I don't know. Like I think they're going to be in good games. I'm going to want to watch the good games. I think they're going to be in good games because they're good football team and they have enough quality players and they're competitive and they're well coached. And also like Frank Wright tends to lose leads anyways to be a good fourth quarter. I think they're going to be like games I want to watch.

Are the Colts in a vacuum like, woo! No, right? It's like, you know, Michael Pittman, Alec Pierce, Matt Ryan, right?

It's going to be a very like precise, detailed West Coast passing offense, which like when it's not like Peyton screaming Omaha 12 times and changing the play like, you know, the line of scrimmage and then Marvin Harrison running for 90 yards, like that's not as fun. You know what I mean?

Okay. So those, that's our draft. So I have the Bears. I have the Sealks and I have the Jets. Steven, you've got the Texans and then you got

who did you take you have the Texans and who the Titans and the Giants I won this one I have I have Washington Carolina New England and I also won this one fascinatingly enough well the problem is we're never going to watch these games so we'll actually never find out

Once I got Steven too many watched three Panthers games last year ballgame Yeah that was a pretty good point I'm not going to lie Stephen you rocked you on that one Okay those are the last one I watched Too many Those are the least watchable teams of 2022.

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