The Ringer NFL Show - Who Are the NFL's Most Watchable Teams?

Episode Date: August 17, 2022

Danny Heifetz, Ben Solak, and Steven Ruiz draft and discuss the most watchable teams in the league this season. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Benjamin Solak, and Steven Ruiz Associate Producer: Isaiah Blakely Additional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. My name is Danny Hyfitz and I am joined by Stephen Ruiz and Ben Solek. And today we are doing the Miserie. most watchable teams in the NFL this season. We're going to do a draft style. We're going to do a snake draft. And again, really simple. Which teams do you want to watch the most in 2022?

Solek, you've won the ceremonial coin toss here. You get the first pick. Who is the team that you are most excited to watch in 2022? How did a coin toss work between three of us? I made it up. Don't worry about it. Now I get it. All right.

Do I have, you know, screw. You want me give it to Stephen? You're going to make your pick? No, I'm very happy to have the first overall pick. in the watchability rankings, I tried to find a reason to not pick the chiefs and I couldn't find a reason

to not pick the chiefs. To me, they have a clear one seat. There's two reasons why. One is, while other quarterbacks also have the ability to do magical things, I still don't think

anybody's on the level of Mahomes in the sense of like, at any time, any throw could be cool, but like for a myriad of reasons, like 45 yards across your body down the field scramble drill, but also like,

he might just do a weird shovel pass thing. That's like always on the table, right? He also, when he runs, is very funny, as it's been well documented by many football Twitter members. Mahomes runs like he has a beer in his hand that he's trying not to spill. He kind of scoots a little bit, right? He just kind of squirts around the field. It's pretty funny guy to watch. Well, he also walks weird.

He walks like Pablo Escobar and Narcos. I don't know that reference, but I will take your word for it. So like that all in all together is just generally very fun. The second thing, which I think is important for this conversation, is that I think, as evidenced by last year, other teams bring their best against the Chiefs, right? I think there are other, like, offenses, like, other teams that are really good and, like, you could put up against the Chiefs, but they don't have the notoriety. They don't have the reputation that the Chiefs do.

The Chiefs always get, they get, like, the best out of the Ravens, to get, like, the best out of the Chargers, best out of the Broncos, best out of the Raiders. Like, just the teams that they are facing tend to up their game a level when they play the Chiefs. And so that brings the Chief's games up in watchability because you expect the other guys to also bring their good stuff. and according to they have a really fun game to watch. So I tried to think who else could take the number one seat.

I couldn't get anybody there. I think it's the Chiefs. Stephen, you're nodding. Did you have the Chiefs at 1-2? Is your first option? No, I would have taken the Chargers. And that's, do I go second. All he wants to do is to be able to at all times claim that he was earlier on Justin Herbert.

He is more on Justin Herbert. At every opportunity, Steve's good. No, actually, it's Justin Herbert. I wasn't even going to focus on Herbert. Herbert's a given. Obviously, Herbert is fun to watch. He makes ridiculous throws. the uniforms, very aesthetically pleasing.

The stadium, I love watching games on TV, at least at SoFi Stadium. I think it's just like a beautiful place to watch games. And then, and then Brandon Staley's defense. What kind of galaxy brain is this? Well, you're skipping over to Justin Herbert and talking about the stadium they play in the taffin? Also, Brandon Staley defense is not improved watchability. The whole defense's point is to make the other offense run the ball for four-yard gains. This is not watchable.

it is watchable because they're very bad. Adding Kalil Mac to the defense is very cool for the Chargers. Derwin James is very cool. Jacey Jackson, cool player, cool player. Some might call him a goblin, a gremlin. I don't know, I don't know that that terminology like Ben does. He's more in tune with it. Which one would he qualify as Ben?

Jay Jackson is a little goblin. He's a little goblin man. Because he's small. Yes. And he's a bully. And I will also say this about Brandon Staley. As bad as the defense was last year, I think when you watch them play,

you could kind of like suss out what the game plan was, what the thinking was there. So like from an X's and O's standpoint, even though it was bad, like it didn't work, obviously. It was kind of cool to track the chess match, especially against the top offenses. Like them against the Bengals, them against the Chiefs. That was good football.

It was fun tape to watch for me. Maybe I'm more focusing on watching them from the All-22 angle rather than the TV copy. but I just think it's a team that's going to be fun as held the track throughout the year for a myriad reasons. Well, so everyone, the charges left a bad taste in everyone's mouth because their defense kind of lost in that game in week 18. But when I think about the charges, I'm thinking about Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert literally finished that game. He converted five fourth downs in the final five minutes of the game.

This isn't like October. It's the final week of the season. It's a winning in playoff game. It's basically a playoff game because they win. They make the playoffs. And if they don't, they lose, they don't. So it's against division rival. it's Sunday night football,

literally the last game of the regular season and there's five minutes left. You can't have more pressure as a regular season quarterback and in response he converts five fourth-th-downs and gets a touchdown

on fourth and 21. And two of the fourth-down throws the long conversion on like the it wasn't a day but it was like a deep end cut I think it might have a glance and then the touchdown those two throws were

being unbelievable throws. He threw a buzzer-beater, a walk-off buzzer-beater which never happens. Right, which is why Like, if there is an argument for the charges, it's not like, oh, Brinon Staley's defense is watchable. You know, like, I'm as much of a film sicko as you are,

but I'm not turning on a team at 5.30 p.m. on a Sunday, so I'm like, I really appreciate philosophically what their defensive coordinators do. No, I watch. Man, I love the nuance of this fire. Oh, man. That first and 10 run that was ended in second and seven because they spilled inside zone nicely. No, screw you. I watch for, my home.

And, like, if we're going to make a defensive argument, while I think that is the one of the best ways to play defense, I would rather watch a defense that Blitz is like crazy. That's way more fun, which is like, that spags with the cheese. Where it's just like, hey, third down, we're coming for you. That to me is more watchable. I wasn't trying to state the obvious. I wasn't, oh, Patrick Mulhomes is fun to watch.

Yeah, no one has ever said that ever before. Because what watchability rankings really need is detail and nuance. Watchability rankings are the obvious. That's what it is. Yeah, I agree. But I said Herbert. Obviously, Herbert is the main draw. I just didn't, I don't need to go into that because I've done it like a billion times.

No one needs to hear me wax poetically about Justin Herbert. Okay. So, so Solex's taking the Chiefs first. Steven's taking the Chargers. I would have taken those teams. So I got third. So I got back to back picks here because we're going in snake draft. I'm going to take the Bengals.

And my reason, I just really love the schematics of the defense and the way they put. The way, the way that Lou and Rumo drops eight is just so. Oh, my God. Just pleasing to me. Look, look at those. No, it's Joey box office. and I'm sorry I love football I'm sorry I love football

I when I was a kid I love watching Anquam Bold and Larry Fitzgerald for the Cardinals and when I watched Jamar Chase it feels like they're the same play like it's like if Anquambole and Larry Fitzgerald were combined it's Jamar Chase and he's incredible and then I don't know this team has as

in the Yiddish they call it chutzpa and I just the Bengals it's just an incredible they got moxie that translates to they have that dog in them yeah they have that dog in them and then honestly a fourth pick kind of sucks. I'm thinking about this a lot. It's hard. I, you could go like six different

teams here. I kind of think I'm going to go with the Broncos, which is kind of a weird pick because I was thinking about I could take the bucks, the Packers, but like all those players, it's kind of like, all right, Rogers and without Devante and Brady and all them. It's like, okay, it's a great quarterback that I know is great and their job's harder now. But, I feel like we forgot four or five years ago Russell Wilson was the most fun quarterback to watch in the NFL. He really was. And he doesn't scramble as much anymore,

so it's not a thing. But I really do want to see how good the Broncos can be. They have like five primetime games this year. Their schedule's kind of incredible. And I just, I don't know, I really do want to see how Russell Wilson plays this year. If this was watchability rankings for like the first four weeks of the season, that's it.

Broncos would be an easy top three pick. There's a chance that by the middle of the season, I'm like, all right, so they're just doing the whole Russ offense thing again. and like they're, you know, kind of just like a generally mid-team. Like, you know, I think they're like a 500 team and like, all right, cool, whatever. Like, I like watching Russ, but they're not like a clear top one tier. But because we don't know yet what exactly it looks like, they are very high watchability

rankings early. Like, in terms of teams, I cannot wait to watch, Broncos are right up there. I'm not as sold that by week eight. I'm like, woo, the Broncos game. But we're going to find that out. And that's what's really exciting. They also, they play the Rams on like Christmas Day. They have a cool schedule.

NFL has fully invested in the Broncos being an extremely good team through November and December, which I would be a little worried about. But, like, again, like, that's what makes it fun. I think the Broncos are a great pick. I'm going to add a bonus pick. Nathaniel Hackett shoots straight to the top of my press conference watchability rankings. And not for good reasons. It's not like he's going to, like, go into depth with detailed answers like Bill Belichick or Kyle Shanahan does.

I just, I'm just hoping he does a Borat impression or an Austin Powers impression during one press conference. I know there's a chance of it happening. Why would the head coach of the Broncos do in Austin Powers? Have you ever watched him talk? Have you ever seen a mic'd up special? Like, he's the Michael Scott of the NFL. It's going to happen. I honestly, this is another podcast of press conference watchability rankings

because I am still mourning the loss of Joe Judge, shout out Danny Hyfitz, who just had the best press conferences because it was just, hey, do you want to see a sad man be wrong in front of people who know that he is sad and wrong? And there was like a train wreck and slow motion aspect of that that was entrancing. I loved Joe Judge Press. Jason Garrett,

right, which is like, hey, he's just going to say the same two things no matter what the questions are. Like, let's watch.

This is, this sounds great. That was a little bit of sadistic love for that. I am encouraged by what to see from Nate Hackett and McDaniel, Mike McDaniel in Miami,

to replace some of our lost press conferences where I just totally hate watch them. Hackett does have good, good early returns on that. My favorite kind of press conference is when Jerry Jones does something next to the coach and the coach who's supposed to be like the head,

alpha male of like 90 men and like assistance and just sits there like a little like little like secretary and he's you know and jerry jones and mike McCarthy just admits that he lied to get the job like 60 seconds into getting McCarthy a good press conference that was a great one okay so i'm taking the bangles and the broncos stephen who are you taking next this one's tough it was between two teams for me and i'm gonna go with the cardinals if we're talking about like like real life for schadenfreude like is it a bit it's mostly a bit but everything's a bit if it's This is welcome to ring your NFL show, baby. It's like a 14 year old controlling a Madden team online on both sides of the ball.

I'm not just talking about Cliff. I'm talking about Vance Joseph, who plays just the most ridiculous style of defense. He's going to blitz like every down, especially on early downs. He's like the only coach that loves blitzing on first and second down. Just doing engage eight every time. Right.

That's his, that's kind of what they were doing at their peak last year. And he does some cool stuff. He does some, there's some like cool coverage rotation. And so, like, you get your exes and nose fix from them. But I feel like their whole strategy is just creating chaos on offense and defense, whether it's. And in the news.

Hit in the news of late. In contracts? In play calling? They even made, they even made contracts exciting for one. Can I ask you guys a question about that? So obviously, so there's been all this stuff like, you know, at first, Cliff Kingsbury. I mean, obviously the video game thing. And then once they put that to rest, Cliff Kingsbury comes out and says that he let

Kyler Murray called plays in practice because he wanted him to know that it's not easy and then he let him call plays in the game and so I'm curious have you guys seen instances with the Cardinals play calling where you're like wow what a terrible call Kyler must like are you on Kyler's side of this is Cliff a bad play caller or is Kyler just being ridiculous? I am generally on Kyler's

side of things. I think that Kyler was doing over four hours of independent film study before it was put in his contract and I think also that like if the Cardinals wanted Kyler to do more film study because they thought it would change like the way he played like he was

going to like do more you know progressions one to two to three and whatever like I don't I don't think Kyler's play style was ever going to change I kind of like half pitch to piece for this and I was like this I don't even think I can really actually make this argument to the full breadth of it but like Kyler's just going to throw

a one-on-one nine ball at the Andre Hopkins it's what he's going to do he throws the ball really well that's what he's done in all the offenses he's always come up in air raid style Oklahoma has been like, hey, if you have this outside isolation, like we can hit this. You know what I'm saying? So let's just hit it. Like, let's give the ball to our playing bakers in space. Let's throw this underneath screen. Like, this is just kind of the philosophy. I don't think like film side was going to be like,

wow, I should, you know, leverage the whole curl defender and just choose between Zacherts and Rondale Moore on like, you know, this spacing around, like just not his play style. And then if it was like, like, you have to do film study because of pre-snap stuff, he's like solid pre-snap. He's not like Brady, don't like everybody. This is what everybody's doing. But he'll like, you know, he'll like call that a blitzer. protection. Again, it's not like he's, you know, changing the world, but it's like, it's good. It's definitely better than I think the typical fan would assume for like a black running quarterback who came in an air raid system. Like, he doesn't know how to read anything. No, he does. He does.

He does pre-snap work. And the Cardinals putting that clause into his contract, I think invited those concerns. We're like, well, obviously, Kyla doesn't read stuff out pre-snap. He does. Every time I watch him, like, that's better than I'm from that. Like, this is pretty good. So in general, I'm on the Kylo side of things. With that said, There is stuff that Kyler does in terms of playstyle and running around back there and checking down like super early in a rep where I'm like, this also does piss me off a little bit. And that's the problem with Arizona is that like everything is true. Everything is a little bit bad. Everything's a little bit weird.

It's very hard to like, this is what the carnal needs to do. Here's the plan. XYZ. Like that's really difficult to do from the outside because everything's a little bit of a mess. Yeah, I would agree. I think he gets hit with the stereotypes that we've seen put on black quarterbacks throughout the history. of the league. But the Breesnap stuff, it's there. Like, he's where he needs to be. There's no issues there whatsoever. And the thing is, there were issues early on. Like, first, second year,

he wasn't really seeing blitzes and teams were just blitzing the hell out of him. And it was effective. This year, they said, yeah, we told him work on this during the off season. And then in 2021, he was like good at it. He was like a B plus, at least. And I tend to agree with him that I think his defense for like not studying film as much as I guess the Cardinals want him to is that he kind of just feels it when he's out there. He kind of just senses things. And when you watch the film, like, you can see that. And I don't know how much his game would improve if he did study film for a couple more hours per week. I don't really see where that's going to help because I do think a lot of the issues with him as a pocket passer are more about his height and not being able to see over the line.

And no film study is going to fix that. Well, I also kind of think if he stops playing video games, they'll probably get worse. So that's probably what I'm most excited to see. If you stops playing video games to get worse? Yeah, you throw him out of his rhythm. You're ignoring the research. There's been research done on this.

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Reasons, one, Lamar Jackson. All right, I'm moving on to my next pick. But that's what it comes down to. In terms of, of, like, if you run me into like a random 4 p.m. NFL slate of just like weird teams, bad games, some NFC East Divisional game nobody asked for, like, you know, NFL game of the week, Vikings, Bears, what is going on? This is horrible. But you put Lamar in that slate, I'm like, all right, sick, perfect. I'm like, I don't need to know who he's playing, how good the Ravens are. Like, there is no player in the league.

Mahomes, Rogers, Brady, who is more eminently watchable than just. just Lamar on his own and what he does for that offense. So number one, Lamar is a huge boost. And then the ancillary stuff around the Ravens is good. Like Mark Andrews, J.K. Dobbins, Rashad Bateman. They have good offensive weapons, big playmakers. They throw the ball down the field. Defensively, not to get Duke, Brandon Staley, with the charges on this,

but we expect them to do cool stuff defensively. And a little bit of that Broncos argument, it's going to be new in terms of what they do defensively. And I'm excited to see that, right? But we expect them to be, as they were under Winkmarnedale, a pressure team. We're going to send blitzes. We're going to find creative ways to get after the quarterback.

We're going to generate turnovers, generate interceptions. That adds to the watchability there. And then the final thing, and we've alluded to this a little bit, but teams that go for it on fourth down are watchable. When you have an aggressive coach that makes random plays in the second quarter, big important plays because he's going for it on fourth down in his own 45, that's a boost to watchability. And nobody does that like Harbaugh, right?

They are going for two. They're going for it on fourth down. They are taking plays that would become ho-hum long field goals or ho-hum, once and instead make them like, holy smokes, fourth and six. Like, I'm leaning forward in my seat in the middle of the game that like isn't even decided yet because this is a really cool play. So the Ravens to me are very clear top tier watchable team. After that, I think I'll just take the bills.

Like, are they, it feels like that feels like a layup, right? Like this is the leading team in terms of Super Bowl odds. Oh my God, I forgot. I had them first. I forgot to take them. You forgot about the bills. He forgot about the Super Bowl favorites. I literally had them as my number one team.

This is why you got to do the work. you gotta do that you gotta do this is why listen hi fits i need four hours of independent film study from you after this okay per week of you making sure that you know how to go through your own lists otherwise i'm out you know what the problem is it's i'm not doing many fantasy drafts this time a year i'm just i'm very new to this whole format unfortunately yeah absolutely yeah fantasy drafting this is tough for hyphitz uh the bill's right feel like a layup here i don't like it's i understand why they're not like tier one but at the same time josh allen continues to have that electric nature to him. He has that Mahomes and Lamar aspect

where like, I'll just tune in to watch Allen play. There's a little bit more bad with the good, but also like that's still watchable, right? That's sort of crazy dumb plays that I kind of all over the place. And then like, I defensively, again, like they're not a super sexy team in terms of what they do on that side of the ball, but like they're still a really fun

to watch team because they're really, really talented. And so they're going to like make good plays. They've obviously gone for and fourth down as well. The bills are just an easy lay up there as well. I can't believe that took the Broncos over the bills. First of the last two games the bills had were like the two best offensive games they've ever seen. They had the perfect game against the Patriots where they had eight touchdown drives and then kneeled it down for the ninth or seven and eight, whatever.

And then they had the 36 points on the Chiefs and almost lost in the playoffs. But like the bills are pure. There are not many things left in the NFL where it's like if this happens, it's pure. Buffalo, like, I cannot think of a better outcome for the 2020 season than the Buffalo bills winning a Super Bowl and like this. Oh, I can think of 19. I can. Eagles winning the Super Bowl.

Panther's winning the Super Bowl with Baker Mayfield. Trey Lance being incredible. Trevor Lawrence getting traded. What are you talking about? A meteor hitting the earth and just blowing and just ending everything. The Bills made in the Super Bowl is like, cool, yeah, good. I think they deserve it. I would enjoy it.

But this is the saddest franchise that the easiest team to root for. It's like, it's Buffalo, New York has an NFL team. It's still kind of weird. In terms of realistic outcomes, bills winning the Super Bowl is up there. In terms of things I can think of right now on August 16th, three weeks out in the regular season, buddy everything.

I want Justin Fields win a Super Bowl with the Bears. Come on a break record, baby. That's what I'm saying. It's the most exciting thing I can think of as the Bill's in Super Bowl. Live a little hype. It's got a dream, baby.

No, I'm talking about like, do you know Bill's fans who've actually been rooting for the bills for like their whole lives? A little too well. I know him a little too well. I'm just saying like, when you step back,

you're like, wow, everyone did hate their quarterback and everyone has made fun of this team. It would be nice. It's like, Please. It'd be good. They deserve it. Either way. Chiefs Ravens bills for Ben.

I'm winning. Yeah, I'm mad. I left that go. Okay, Stephen, you're up again. The Rams, the Super Bowl champs. I feel like this is an easy pick. Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford throwing no-look passes.

Sean McVeigh is doing his thing on offense. Cooper Cup. Do I have to explain this? I think, and by the way, I think we were wrong about their uniforms when they first came out. Decent looking uniforms, especially from far back, and then the SoFi Stadium effect. I'm all about aesthetic.

Every single year they wear less bone uniforms, the uniforms get better. Not an accident. It's the science, baby. That's correlation. They wore the white alternates during the Super Bowl and won. If they would have worn those bone jerseys, they would have got blown out.

Absolutely, 35 to 7. Well, both the LA teams and so far have that blue yellow version, right? Like the powder blue and yellow for the charges and then like, you know, the rim. I just like the blue and gold. But we've talked about a lot of offense, and obviously the Rams have great offense in Cooper Cup and Stafford, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Have you guys ever, like, enjoyed watching a defensive player more than Aaron Donald? Because for me, like, there's not many times on defense where I'm like, I'm only going to watch this guy in every play. And it's incredible, honestly. I'd be curious if there's anyone you've enjoyed watching more than Aaron Donald. Like, immediately Brian Dawkins came to my mind, but that's a little bit of cheating because like I was an eight-year-old learning about football watching the Eagles. And Dawkins was just like taking dudes heads off, right?

And like, first thing, they didn't even play that way right now. But secondly, like, he holds a special place to my heart because of the, that in terms of like right modern NFL and like my understanding of now. being objective like not your own team honestly the only person Troy Palomalo is like the only person even close. Paul Malo is up there. I do think that like elite really really good linebackers who can like play sideline to sideline and like do all that stuff like that's really fun to watch as well just like because there's an ability to take over the game in that regard but like Donald's

also he also takes over game. So yeah it's Donald. And I think like watching on TV you could see Donald doing his thing like whereas you can't watch Jalen Ramsey. I think like on film I would pick Jalen Ramsey over Donald just because I enjoy like cornerback wide receiver matchups more. But yeah, it's Donald. Like your eyes can't help but just be fixed on him during the play. I went to Rames Training Camp. I guess this is before the pandemic. It was a few years ago. And they were just doing like drills like one on one like, you know, just like a defensive lineman versus offensive linemen one on one. And Aaron, every, every, Aaron Donald, first of all, Alpha move kept cutting the line to get more reps in. And the ref, it's also preseason for the referees. So the referees are at training camp also just trying to like learn and, you know, get there. And the ref was just watching the reps for Aaron Donald, like transfixed. And Aaron Donald, it looked, you know in like cartoons when there's like a cloud of dust and then it settles? It like happens so fast.

He like barely moved, but basically he just goes and does three things. And the guard is now behind him on the ground and Aaron Donald's just standing where the guard was. And it was the most incredible thing I've ever seen. And the ref turns around and is cackling. to himself and is trying to not let the players see that he's laughing at them. And it was the funniest thing I've ever seen was just this ref just trying not to laugh at these players' faces. Like watching Aaron Donald.

Okay. Do I have the last pick here? Yeah. Oh, man. I'll take, I think it's between the Packers and the Bucks. But I'm going to take the Packers because I think that it, you said the other day, so like Belichick was trying to do like a video game on the, he already beat it.

So he's trying to do it like, expert mode and it's like actually you can't have any armor this time. That's how feels with the Packers. Like Aaron Rogers is just somehow still at this incredible level of quarterbacking. And I just want to see what he does now without Devante Adams. I'm curious what you guys think that look like. I just want to say first that you are, it seems like you can't grasp how a snake draft works because you're sitting there debating between the Packers and the Bucks.

You have two picks in a row. We're only doing three rounds. We're only going to do three rounds. And then we're going to just all agree. How much you read your slacks there, Chief? I don't prepare. I'm like Kyler. Only losers need extra time to prepare.

I just feel it when I come on. Just doing the pre-pod, reading the prepod snaps. But that's a bad pick, though. It's a bad pick because the bucks are the better team because Todd Bulls. I disagree. Rogers and Pack's the best pick. Is Brady fun to watch? Brady's not watchable anymore.

I'm over it. Brady's not. I'm done. I don't care anymore. I don't want to watch Tom Brady play anymore football. He's more much more much than he's ever been. No, I've been seeing my entire life be good. get it. Tom Brady is good.

Like, Aaron Rogers is more interesting to watch. I agree. He's more watchable in the sense of like downfield throws and explosive plays. I'm just generally out on watching Tom Brady play any more football. Retire! We were so close. The post Brady world was at our fingertips.

And there'd be something else to do. No, it's Rogers. The offense is going to be interesting. And Rogers, to me, has a more aesthetic play style. It's like more enjoyable play style. The release is extremely cool. I generally just like the Packers' offensive approach. more in terms of like interesting things to me.

Yes, I get like Brady is good and everything. But I just like, I legitimately, like I think of watching Tom Brady and I'm like, oh, again, no, go home, old man. I'm done. That's, see, this is just objectively wrong. The buck, not only do the bucks throw it downfield like every play. Todd Bowles does like the defensive version of that where he just blitzes the hell out of people every play.

That's good football. The defense is a good argument, for sure. And I keep going back to it. You guys aren't respecting. the experience of watching the games on TV. Like, have you ever watched, like, a Jets game at... Have you ever watched Lambo Field? What are you talking about right now?

Lambo Field's overrated. From a TV watching... Stephen prefers the Bucks where they have a little pirate ship with cannons. Right. No, that's cool. That's actually cool. But, no, I mean, from a TV watching... Lambos overrated. From a TV watching perspective, if I had a choice between going to Lambo and going to whatever the Buck Stadium is called, I'm going to Lambeau Field every time.

Okay, but we're talking about a television. We're not talking about which field we want to go to. Oh, I'd rather go to Florida than Green Bay, Wisconsin. Does it matter to your TV watching experience? He said if he was in person, he'd rather go to Lambo. Yeah. Oh, the opposite. Wait, so if you're watching on television, who cares about television?

And you're watching a Lambo field? I watch 99.9% of the games on television, but all of us do. It's important. How is Lambo the difference maker here? I don't understand. It's not. I'm saying the Bucks have a beautiful TV watching experience. Go back and watch the Bucks.

The Vikings pull out that giant drum, the whole skull chant and seems like this is, this is television, baby. This is officially, I did not. I did not bring up the pirate ship. I did not bring up the pirate ship. Someone else brought the pirate ship. I'm just saying it looks nice in the Florida sun. Like go back and watch the Rams Bucks game. It's like the most beautiful game I've ever seen on TV.

This is the definition of watching too much tape. I think that it's rotted your brain. And you're out here just talking about aesthetics of the game. It matters. Actually, this is a fun way. We can piss off Stevieve. even more here. So that's nine teams. So I want to determine the 10th team here, but we really should kind of be picking an upside team right here for the end.

I know, yeah. I know who my 10th team would be, so it would not be the bucks. Who is it? Maybe the 49ers. I think the 49ers are extremely watchable. The most watchable rookie quarterback in the sense of like big plays, chaos, like really bad, bad plays, really good, good plays, running and throwing. Like, Trey Lance is just so enrapturing in terms of like what this all. offense is going to look like with him in terms of both like the scheme X's and no nerd stuff and then also just like the cool stuff right like anytime anything went wrong for the Niners offense last in the last like four years it's like all right jimby's getting sacked jimmy's

still on a pick like that's not you know whatever like here i think like the niners have a chance in any play like third and 13 i'm like yeah the niners are in this baby like that's that's that enhances the experience debo is so freaking watchable kiddle is so freaking watchable like they're such good yak player so they catch a ball at any area of the feeling you're like touchdown touchdown right now like they can break a tackle and go like that's so watchable defensively, they're extremely watchable. It's a little bit football nerdy because they're not like a blitz-heavy team, but there is something really cool about how well they cover.

Like whenever you get to see like a third down rep of the Niners defense and you watch the interchange and interplay, they also run around it and hit a lot, right? Like, Jakeez-Kee Tart, Fred Warner, Aziz Al-Shayir, I always get his name wrong, the other linebacker. Just they are a fast physical team, Telenofofanga. They hit dudes. That's fun to watch on defense.

The Niners might be bad because Lance, might not be good, but they're really going to be watchable early in the season. So they'd be my 10. Yeah, now I think that we were way too low on the 49ers now that I think about. Like the Broncos got picked before the 49ers. The 49ers should have the top four pick. I didn't have Ravens bills at the turn. I was taking the Niners.

So I'm in, yeah, I'm in on this. I think I completely agree on the Niners. I had them higher in my list too because basically, first of all, Trilands is throwing 100 passes in the last 900 days, give or take. And same. But like, I. Probably. like in terms of backyard football and vibing,

100 passes in 90 days. Me and me and Trey Lance, just developing at the same pace. Well, that's kind of the question, right? Could Kyle Shannon turn anyone into a good quarterback? Could he turn to you into a good quarterback? So I'm fascinated. The Niners almost made the Super Bowl last year. Like if Chiquisky Tart doesn't drop that interception

in the NFC championship game, the Niners probably go to the Super Bowl. And then Jimmy Gropel was the quarterback for that ostensibly. And they're basically exiling him, like it's the third Dark Night movie. And it's like death or exile. And so the fact that they're so, in on Lance. I know they have to be because of the draft

picks, but I agree that with Solek that because Shannon's had boring quarterbacks or so long, I'm actually just interested to see what their offense is going to be now that they can do whatever they want. Yeah, I think getting rid of Jimmy really boost their watchability. In ways that I don't think we can even appreciate

yet. We don't know it yet, but science cannot capture the effect of a post Jimmy world on the San Francisco 49ers. Like now that I regret not picking them number one. I think they might be the most watchable team in the NFL now that I think about it. Can we do a redraft? Steven? Stephen,

redrafting the most watchable teams, the Tuesday episode, the Ringer NFL show. Yeah, we'll do that. We'll do that for the next episode. So there you go. The next one will be the redraft. But thank you to everyone for listening to the first version of the draft, most watchable teams. Thank you, Ben.

Thank you, Stephen. Thank you, everyone for listening. Thank you, Isaiah Blakely for production help. Thank you, Arjuna. See you guys tomorrow.