The Ringer-Verse - 12(ish) Questions to Midnight: Pop Culture Edition | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

The Midnight Boys bring you a very special episode as they attempt to answer 12 of the most pressing questions in pop culture, recorded live from the NABJ/NAHJ Conference in Las Vegas (10:48). Hosts: Charles Holmes, Van Lathan, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oh, you said I was going to have a new name. And I'm the architect now? Steve, the architect, okay. So I need to use the word inexorably a lot more now.

Yeah. Okay, whatever. Whatever. Steve, the architect almond, the cuddly builder bear. Charles Holmes 24-carric colder, Coke baby Chuck, the 24-carric closer,

Jomi, the Explanee, the explainer our dinner on. And together, we are known as Oman Van. the receiving hairline. I'm fucking this whole thing up, but that's okay because this is a different podcast and this is a different intro.

We are known as of the Midnight Boys. Okay, let me tell you why this is a different intro because Chuck and Jomey aren't here. They are not. It's just me and Steve. Okay. The reason why is because we are bringing to you a very special episode

of the Midnight Boys today. What we're doing will tell you in a second right after, do we get to the program this Friday, the House of R will return with a new hype meter for all the latest fall shows. They're going to look at these false shows

and try to get you guys hype for them. They're going to get you hype for them, and they're going to tell us how hype they are for all of these shows. If you love the House of R, you don't want to miss it. And I know that you love the House of R so you don't want to miss it. Shout out to Joe.

Shout out to Mal. These are my co-workers. Yes. All right, these are my friends. Oh, boy. My Joe, my mouth. This is, this is, this is, on his, on his possessive friendships. I like this now.

This is, this is, shout out to them, my home girls. Okay. Next Thursday, Mint Edition, oh, my God. We'll be giving you their thoughts on the season premiere of She-Hulk, Attorney-in-Law. She-Hulk, Attorney-A-Law? Covered by the Men Edition Boy, Steve, what do you guys have in store for She-Hulk? What are you, give me some tidbits that they can. give me some bits of mint.

Right. Well, that's going to be our beat for a little bit. We're going to be covering the premiere mid-season of She-Hulk and then the finale. We also have a Charlie Cox trigger episode. So the moment the Charlie Cox and Daredevil show up in that episode, we're immediately firing up the mics and we're talking about it. We don't know when he'll show up, but the moment that he does, we got to talk about it. So we got three chapters on She-Hulk coming up for you.

Let me tell you how toxic you are. Okay, great. Show's not about Charlie Cox. It's not about a man. It's not. It's not about a man, Steve. Jomey. It's about Jennifer Walters.

It is. Shehawk, Shehawk, Terry a lot. Which we are very excited for. Don't make Shehulk's story about Daredevil. Well, Disney Plus certainly seems to be

because they're showing him off a lot. So once again, massaginous mouse is his new name. Mickey the massaginist. I wonder if Mickey's a misogynist. He's probably not. He's been around for a long time. Yeah, he's just some early Steamboat Willie.

Some early Steamboat Willie. There's some stuff in there, guys. He's come a long way. Next Wednesday, Midnight Boys will return once again. We will ride off into the sunset. Once again, the Midnight Boys. And then, let you guys know there's going to be what we call a midnight shakeup. Because I will be on vacation.

For at least one episode of the Midnight Boys, I think it'll only be one. I'm going to Greece with Kalika. Well-deserved vacation. What are you looking forward to most on your Greek vacation? Are you going to be singing Mamma Mia? What are you going to be doing? No. I am looking for Zeus.

Looking for Zeus. Looking for Zeus. Trying to find Zeus, trying to find a Thunderbolt. You are nothing by the other. What's not a bad Zeus right there? I mean, listen, it's not exactly. hard to do an outlandish Greek, Italian,

whatever the hell accent that was that Russell Crow was doing. We're going to go around the island of Santorini. We're going to look for as many historic things. I think we have a private boat ride one day. We got kayaking one day. There you go. We're going to a museum

one day. Ooh. We're going to a wine tasting one day. Ooh. As much as I'm going to miss the Boasily-Wosierly, Wonderpop of Docks, it's something that has to happen because we have to take this trip to please. I've been working my ass off. So I might miss an episode of The Midnight Boys, but the architect, the Coke Baby, and the Explanator are going to be

here along with Arjuna. Arjuna might have to jump on the mic. Arjuna cut his hair, and what we're going to do is we're going to put a before and after on the Ring of Verse socials with Arjuna when he had hair and with Arjuna with his new haircut. And we're going to let fans of the Ring Reverse, Arjuna, I'm sure he's okay with this.

we're going to let fans of the Ring ofverse discuss what they feel and how they feel about Arjuna's new haircut. And I got to respect Arjuna because the way that he described his reasoning for going a buzz cut is only because it's too hot. I am a very big proponent of a utilitarian haircut. Like I'm not good about styling my hair. I'm not good about getting my hair properly fixed. It's only because it gets too hot or it doesn't feel. great on my head. So I respect Arjuna's decision. I respect this decision as well, but I want to know this is not as, look, what we do here at the Midnight Boys is we got our fans involved. And Arjuna,

he, uh, Arjuna is in a weird spot with us because he is, he's like the Nick Fury, like we've said that before. Like, is Nick Fury an Avenger? Or is Nick Fury the guy who runs the Avengers? Is Nick Fury technically an Avenger. He's kind of an Avenger, but not really an Avenger. So that's kind of what Arjuna is. He's our Nick Fury. He's one of the Midnight Boys, but then he really can't be one of the Midnight Boys because he's our handler. Yeah, but that's the thing about a good handler slash good producer. Like, he's got to nudge you and make you think that what you're doing is your idea when it's really his. True. And so because of that, he's got to show the hair. He's got to show the hair. We're going to do it. Today's show, we have a very special.

episode of The Midnight Boys recorded live during the NABJ conference in Las Vegas. Now, I didn't know it was NAHJ. When I went there, it was NABJ. I learned that my Hispanic brothers and sisters were also having their conference in Vegas. I respect that. So NABJ, NAHJ.

Well, wait, we learned that on the podcast. We played a little game of 12 questions to midnight. We didn't make it to all 12 questions. No, we did not. There was a lot of shenanigans going on, but we did a pop culture edition of 12 questions to midnight where we asked different questions about pop culture. Everybody got three questions for Midnight Boys. That's 12. And we had a lot of fun.

Steve took it on the chin on this podcast a lot, but that's okay. Yeah. I was a big of view this. And look, that's the thing. I was legitimately like, I texted Arjuna. I'll admit that I texted Arjuna, like, when I was on. on stage, I was like, is this a disaster for me or am I doing okay? And he's like,

everybody's like, you're doing great. It's all fine. Yeah. We had a great time. We talked about that, Steve. We did. We talked about that. Steve, you did amazing. You're the man. I appreciate that. I really do. No, this was a great time. I'm really proud of everybody for showing out and having a really

great time. It means the world that you guys came out to see us and had a good time with us. And we look forward to doing it some more. I really, really hope so. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I'm glad you guys came out, but I know why you came out. Shout out to Spotify. All the food at this event was free.

They had a chef from Cabo O Waboabo. All the drinks at this event were free. And then they had dessert as well. I don't know if you guys came to necessarily see the Midnight Boys, but I know that when you left, you were fans of the Midnight Boys. Apew! Now, with no further ado, this is Steve the Architect Almond, who I'm calling the Archieupew.

architect because I have to make sure to give space for Steve. Steve put this live show together. Steve puts this podcast together. Steve put our other live show, the Ring of Verse Live show at Star Wars Celebration together. I want to make sure that everyone understands just how integral, important, and instrumental Steve Alman is in this podcast. There were some snafews when we got to.

to Vegas. Not a real snafu, but it's technical difficulties. And what does Steve do? Like a fucking maniac. He tinkered. He was the tinkerer from the MCU until he was able to help us deliver a podcast that was great for both the audience in the room and for the people that are listening right now on this feed. So Steve's new nickname is the architect because he builds dope shit. Now, no further ado, here we are from NABJ in a hellscape, hot Las Vegas. 12 questions at midnight. Want to support your gut health? Take Activia's gut health challenge by enjoying two Activio yogurt today for two weeks and see if you feel a difference.

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Like, we'll have a guest on the show. We'll ask them 12 different questions. And we'll then kind of banter with them about these answers. This time, we're going to ask these questions. to one another. And there will be various topics that will be covered in this conversation,

some directly relating to fandom, some relating to other aspects of black culture on our podcast, as you can see with the story about Steve. We'll deviate, we'll come back to it, and we'll use things

that are taking place in the annals of Marvel, DC, and on television shows to actually talk about things that are relevant to larger cultural issues and it's something that we do very well on the podcast, I would say. So we can start now, if you want, 12 questions to midnight. The first question that I have being a little bit older than you guys is what is the single greatest piece of black or African American mythology

that exist? I have the answer already. What's the answer? Fast and curious. You got all different types of black people in it. You got Vin Diesel. You're like, is he black? I don't know. You got the rock. And he's like, you like, I think, yeah, he's, he's black. And you got Tyrese. He's like, damn, I know Tyrese is black. It's just fast and furious. Great. Just knows the gamut.

What? Have you ever seen Fentzile with the Afro? Like, I did it until. I don't think that's the question he's asking, pal. Fast and Furious is a mythology. It is mythological. Is it black, though? Is fast and furious black?

Hell yeah. Why? Everybody in the main class is damn near black. The Rock is black, man. Here's the thing about. Vin Diesel. He's black, but he's not playing black in that movie. He's just Dominic Torretto.

Like, he's not. Yeah, John Cena was his brother in that movie. Yeah, John Cena was his brother. I don't feel like you need to come up with another answer quickly. Because I don't really feel like Fast and the Furious. You're going to go with Fast and the Fears? Hell yeah. I don't really feel like, y'all.

Ludacris is in that movie. It's a black pathology. Come on. Show the hands. Who thinks that Fast and Furious is black? Raise your hand if you think it's black. Like not one person No, it's not black

It's not black at all, dog Dog, Tyrese averted World War III That's not a black movie? Nah, because we would never care about something like that But like it's like for for myriad reasons Plus think about the original Fast and the Furious Think about what we would do As soon as we realize, rest in peace

Paul Walker was the police You think he could come back to the crew after that? I didn't let you in my house, you with my sister, all of that, and you turned out to be the police. No way. He left the police. Who was we? No, he left the police. Bro, that's after.

And no, and by the way, he kind of didn't. Yes, he did. Brough, he went from the police to the FBI. He went from the police to the super police. And then he broke, all right, if there's anything that's really black, he broke my man out of prison. Who, which guy did? But I don't remember this. Who broke out of prison?

Dom. Brough, name me one black guy you've ever known. that's broken another black guy out of prison. That's super white. The best shot we got is Kim Kardashian. All right. Like other than that, hey man,

hold your head. You got to do that time. I'm not coming down there to get you out. Jomey, what's your answer to the question? All right, man. So just to like, you know, take you guys behind the curtain.

Five minutes ago, I found out that Van was asking this question. I was like, what does black mythology mean? and he said, you know, he gave his answer and I was like, I don't really know what that means. You don't know the person that I'm talking about? No, I don't know what black mythology means.

I'm a little younger than Van. Here we go. What do you mean? So, whatever. Get the ages bullshit out of the way for everybody. I was born in 1980. Damn. I'm proud of it.

Wow. In the audience. Thank you. Broke motherfuckers. Here's the thing. Michael B. Jordan said, a couple of years ago, shout out to Mike. Hold your head up, my jeep.

Michael B. Jordan said a couple of years ago, he said that he wanted to do Raising Dion, which is a fantastic show. In a way, he said he wanted to do it because there was no black mythology. That is not true. There's black mythology. When I was growing up,

back in the olden days, the first black superhero I ever looked up to was a gentleman by the name of John Henry. Do you know who that is? Joey did. Yeah, yeah. Tell us about John Henry. Still driving, man.

Tell us about him. There is a train. Okay. Like he didn't hear about the story five minutes ago. Tell me about John Henry. Is he pulling the train? Oh, my. No.

No. No, by the way, that's kind of racist, too. He would be pulling the train. Like, no, it's, like, they would have made us do that, though. Think about when it was first inventing the train, he'd be like, oh, we just made the hole, and we get a bunch of it. niggas to pull that bitch here. They made us do everything else.

So, John Henry is to me the quintessential black piece of mythology because it was a tragic story of a man who was so strong whose life was ended under the weight

of American industry. And it was indicative of the usury of black people. John Henry drove still spikes for the railroad. And at some point, the guy comes along with the jackhammer and tells John Henry that I can do this faster than you can. John Henry beats this man, but he dies in the process.

Jesus. So when you look at kind of the way black people's bodies are used in culture and the way we're looked at as almost oxen, the story of him martyring himself to prove that he could do something that impressive to gain respect from people is like the ever-evolving story of what we have to do in order to be seen and viewed as American. So, like, when I was growing up and my dad would tell me about people, my dad would always use fictional stories to tell, like, real life lessons. Like, we were watching Mr. Belvedere, for example,

and the kids on Mr. Belvedere were talking back to their parents. My father would teach right then. He'd be like, you see how he's talking to his father right there? They'd be like, yeah, I'll kill you. So that was the reason why I answered the question, because I think sometimes, like, you know, when creatives like Mike or anybody else are talking about what they feel like they owe to current culture, I think it's important to remember that we've been telling stories about black people doing amazing things for as long as we've had miles to tell those stories. So, Steve, for you, what's your answer?

Oh, man. Well, I was going with Charles because we talked a lot about this, so I just thought of, like, one of the – one of his and my favorite black characters in mythology, and that's Optimus Prime. Oh, yeah, yeah, Optimus Prime is black. He's definitely black. So I was going to go with the Transformers. Yeah.

Wait, you don't think Optimus Prime is black? No, no. What? He's a robot. Robots can be black? All right, bro. Well, no, here's the thing, right? Charles has a point,

because remember the first Transformers, they killed Jazz, who was the only robot who liked hip-hop. Remember that. So... Wait, tell me out there. Why do you guys think robots can't be black? Robots can be black.

Optimus Prime is not black. Yeah. Like, the reality of the situation is I don't really think that Optimus Prime is black. And Steve, just to be honest with you, I'm more than a little offended by you doing that. Like, the reality of the situation is, I felt like as an ally,

you should have done your homework. And, come with a much better answer to the question. I feel like you sold it out. And now I can see that you're a black square on Instagram ally. And I thought you were better. Damn. Oh, damn.

That's too far. That's too far. That's too far. That's too far. Steve. I know you. We love you, Steve. We love you.

Give another answer, though. Seriously, on God. On God. On the whole set. Give me another answer. Don't say, Jernie LaForge. Don't say. Oh, Jorny LaForge.

I would have said Jordan of the Force. Yeah. You like Jordy LaForge from Star Trek. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. All right. Your turn to ask the question.

You ask me. No, you have to go through all your questions. No, no, no, no. I think we should mix them up. All right, Charles, you go. Oh, me? Top three fictional white people. Oh.

Fictional? Fictional white people. Top three fictional white people. Invited to the cookout. Okay. That are invited to the cookout? Yeah. Oh, that's tough.

That's weird. You know damn well. I don't believe in that cookout shit. All right, you invite somebody to the cookout. They use your bathroom, put they feed up all over your tables. Then they leave and take five, ten plates. I don't believe in that cookout shit. So I'm going to go with my top,

I'm going with my top fictional white people that would never come to the cookout because those are the type of white people I like, the ones that I would never hang out with in real life. So Hannibal Lecter is number one. What? What? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's a very different cookout. So let me explain to you why Hannibal Lecter, let me explain to you why Hannibal Lecter is actually the man. He's the man. Hannibal Lecter eat a motherfucker face and you feel like I don't know he kind of got a point

you know what I mean? Like Hannibal Lecter goes around doing all kinds of heinous things and you think to yourself this motherfucker I'm saying like Hannibal Lecter y'all not fucking with this at all No

okay what's question Are you an Anthony Hopkins or Mads-Mickleson guy for a Hannibal Lecter? Yeah that's like not even a question. It is a question.

No, nobody on earth goes, Hannibal Lecter, Mads Mikulsson. No one thinks of that. Have you seen Hannibal? Have you seen Hannibal? This is youthful bullshit. Hannibal Lecter is played by Anthony Hopkins. Okay, second white person.

Right. Ryan Goslin from Drive. Okay. Of course. That's the man. You're fucking with that, aren't you? That's the man. That dude is the man.

He never talks, brutally beats up people, could drive really good. You know, steps in for Oscar Isaac, ally. Is the jacket still cool now? I will fuck with the jacket. Even now? Do you think you could pull the jacket off the jacket off? I mean, it would have to be a little bit bigger, you know what I'm saying?

I'm a little round, but I could pull the jacket off. It's a good jacket. It's a good jacket. That one Halloween, like every dude was that guy, and it was an obnoxious thing to see that jacket all the time. Last fictional white person. Calvin Candy from Django Unchained. No, that's not, bro. Come on, man.

Come on, bro. There's so many. So many, so many. I, well, no, it's funny because that's, like, definitely the last guy you would invite. At the bottom of the list. That's nuts. I said people that are not coming, but people who are entertaining. Here's the thing about Calvin.

Here's the thing about Calvin. You know, Cal, Calvin, how am I gonna Please finish this thought I'm gonna bullshit my way through that. Please finish this thought. How am I gonna bullshit my way through that day? I'm fucking with Calvin, man.

It's Leo, dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, he was pretty horrible all around. But he has this sublime dupisness that I really respect

about white people sometimes, man. Like, I really respect motherfuckers that don't know shit. But somehow they got everything. And also it was very cathartic for me when he died, the way he died because it was like white on white violence. And I fuck with that more than anything. I see two white people fighting on Instagram like that shit. You know what I'm saying?

Straight up. Your turn, Charles. Ooh, I'm going to keep it with Leo. I do Leo from Titanic, but like him as a ghost. I have so many questions. So like a water ghost? Yeah. I want to know if he's pissed off.

Yeah. He gets to the Harley Gates. Why would he be pissed? Because she throws the necklace in the fucking ocean. First of all, let me tell you something about that motherfucker. He is the last person who should be pissed. No, he should be pissed in Titanic. Rose's actual husband.

Buss it. This is what happens. Rose goes on a boat. On a boat three days. Guys, cute. We get it. Very charming. Cool.

He dies. I could argue. She lets him die. Whatever. Has a great life. Marries another guy. Goes throughout her entire life with that guy. Dyes.

throwing away money, something that would never happen in our community. She dies. Who does she see at the top of the stairs? A dude she do for three days. Damn.

If I'm the dude in, if I'm her husband in heaven who gave my whole life to her, and I'm like, yo, you're still fucking with Leo? He's scrapping like in heaven. He is actually cool. He got a nice three-day rope.

He died. He went out on top. He wasn't going to amount to much more than that. Let's keep it real. So on the reality, let me be real. You wouldn't fold for Leo in three days. What you mean?

Like, you wouldn't have fold, three days. On a nice Titanic ship with Leo. You're talking about Van Lathan? Yeah. I don't understand the question. He's a handsome man. You acting like it. Three days with Leo is like, it's heaven.

I'm pretty sure you'll remember that for the rest of your life. No, I'm not trying to fuck Leo. I don't know. Why? It's 2022, Van. All right. This is terrible. Hey, he's terrible.

Okay, yeah. Jesus Christ. Oh, love it. Hey, whatever. Yeah, cool. But not, not for the kid. Go ahead. But you got your...

They didn't fuck with Fast and Furious, but I got to go with Brian. I cried five times in theater every single time. Yeah, I want to see him again. Who's the third one? Is Ang from Avatar White? No. He's Asian, right? Yeah.

Damn. You don't know how to tell races. Oh, boy. You are the most. You're so confused. Too white. Two white dudes created Avatar. So, like, at a certain point, come on.

That's actually a solid point. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's true. I'm going to hang. Okay. Sure. All right, Jomey.

All right, Jomey. Who's your picks? My first pick? I mean, I don't know how y'all didn't bring this though. Obi-Wan. Okay. No. Could Obey?

Why? What? No, man. He lied to the third sister. You let that black sister die, bro. That is true. Damn. Come on, man.

This, bro. He was in a whole situation with a black sister. You were so toxic. You know what you're saying, well, wait, his sworn enemy was a black lady. She was braided up in the galaxy. And you chose him. You're sick.

You know how why it used to be racist in the galaxy power of age? I'm looking past it. All right, who's number two then? I look at it. That's like choosing Justin Timberlake. Like his sworn enemy is a black woman. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. You know, he left her out to dry, cost her a whole career. Oh, my God. Gosh, second, you know, I don't really, see, like, the first person came by my head was Steve Rogers, but now that I think about it. That's America. He's kind of the police. Yeah.

He's kind of the police. How many of you all know about Captain America? If Captain America was real, he would have been wild racist when he got out of the ice break. People would hate Captain America if he was real. Like, can you imagine he sees BT the first time? He's like, y'all, you gave him a whole channel? Yeah. He'd be wild.

Because he went in, he went in the ice in what year? Uh, 45? Oh, he definitely not fucking with us. That's amazing. And the first friend he makes is black, and then he becomes, like, his little niggins. You know what I'm saying? Like, Falcon. Shout out to...

Wait, while I'm here, let me ask my question while it's on the top of mine. If you had a rap song, like, he comes at... Captain America comes at the ice. He hasn't heard rap. He doesn't know what it is. What's the first rap song you introduce him to? Damn. The first rap song for Captain America.

That's easy for me. What? March Madness. March Madness? Future? Wow. You just go straight to future. Star-Moff strong.

That's going to like... Star-off-Sstrong. Anything that we say, he's going to be like... It's going to scare him to death. He's going to be like, scared. He's not going to be able to understand that. I know. His brain's going to explode.

Yeah. Not bad. Okay. What's your last one, Jummy? My last one? Okay. It's Spider-Man, but specifically Tom Holland's Spider-Spotterman. Fuck out of here.

Okay. Fuck out of you. Y'all like him? Okay. No, not Toby. See, because Toby, you know, Toby's love interest was Mary Jane played by, you know, a white woman. Kirsten Dunst.

Kisholns. Andrew Garfield's love interest, Gwen Stacy, so that's Emma Stone, white woman. White. Tom Holland had two love interests. Both played by black women. That's all I'm saying. Which, I mean.

you could debate the realism please let me explain the realism dog I like my job I thought Optimus Prime was a tough answer that motherfucker's short

bro it's not going to happen bro I'm just gonna be honest with you two in a row the bad is in the school it's not going to happen but I will tell you this though

let me tell you some about Kirsten Dunst and it's something that I came up with so that was my era that era during Spider-Man and it was Kirsten Dunst Bring It On era and stuff

I'm convinced of something during that era our white people were better than y'all's man Wait what? The Bring It On era the Fast and Furious era the white people that we had you know what I'm saying

on into bubble sparks and the rest of them all of these different white people Are white people Wait you guys agree with that Wait wait a lot I'm telling you strike up Yeah yeah y'all have Paul All white people were, right? All white people were better than you.

I see the bitch. I see the bitch. A lot of our white people in this era. Think about the fucking, think about the classics, nigga. Paul Wall? Think about. They had still tip. They had different.

Disrespect Houston, bro. Think about the classics. Think about bringing on. Think about say the last dance. Think about the white people that we have. Think about cruel intentions. Ryan Philippi, sell Michelle Geller. Think about the white people.

Think about Freddie Pairs Jr. Chad Michael Murray. What about the white people we had? Jennifer Love Hewitt. Damn, I am thinking of the white people we have. Like, I'm like Jack Harlow? Like, nah, bro. Y'all got Jack Harlow.

Like, come on, bro. At some point, white people turned over. And it was a weird era to where they can't go three months without fucking up now. But our white people went years. You ain't never heard no. Whoa, whoa, no, no. They were fucking up in silence. They were fucking up in silence.

You never heard no smut on Freddie Prince Jr. name ever ever he's got a clean record sure Michelle gellar clean Kirsten Dutz clean like we had better white people bro y'all had Eminem cook for decades so I'm not laying out okay that one doesn't count Steve let's move on okay you're three favorite white people okay fictional white people yeah's good one okay neo from the matrix that's a good one Keanu Reeves. Keanu of ours. Yep.

My error. He's a great white person. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Okay. Okay. Kermit the Frog. Kermit the Frog. That is the most racist fucking thing I have ever heard before in my goddamn life.

Wait. Get the fuck off the mic. Seriously. Bro, go to Memphis and go straight to Dr. King's Memorial, bro. I mean, to the Lorraine Motel or go to Atlanta to Memorial after that. You need to, you cannot take Kermit the Frog, bro. There's no way you can say Kermit the Frog is white. What makes him white?

I don't know. Oh, whoa. Wait, let's get out. He's like, bro. Wait, black people can't be robots, but black people can be frauds. First of all, Kermit the Frog is not white at all. At all. Okay.

Okay. Why do you think he's white? Jim Henson. So what? It's enough of love against white? It's mad niggas that he created. Like, what are you talking? Like, Steve, I was, I was like, I'm, Steve, I'm, I'm,

contact. We have to litigate this, because this is a very pivotal moment of our friendship. What, like, what, what makes you think that Kermit the Frog is white, for real? I, it just resonated with me. I could just say Mr. Rogers and move on. Mr. Rogers works. Okay. Kermit the Frog, you cannot have. All right. That's nuts. He is literally my spirit animal, bro.

Okay. Kermit is the man. All right. I'm not, I'm not stepping on anybody today. Mr. Rogers. Is Elmo black? Elmo, who's sure black. I think Elmo is black.

I'm a sure black. I don't think, I don't think, I think the only, I think there's only one white, like Muppet. Who is it? Oscar or Grouch. Really? Yeah. Mad at everybody? True.

All the time, you know what I'm saying? Popping out, trying to dominate the street, you know what I'm saying, the whole situation. So, Karen. Actually, Oscar's probably the blackest of all the characters. It's the way that it goes. Okay. That's nuts. So, what is the most overrated movie in black culture?

Steve, you can take this one. Whoa, man. I know what you're going to say. Why don't you just go ahead and lay it on the people so that we could all have a fun time? The most overrated movie. Overrated? Yeah.

Don't put, don't. Can I get a deferment until the last question? I need to really, I feel bad that I pick Kermit the Frog. This is going to be tough. You shouldn't feel bad. I really don't care. It was for the whole crowd. Right, sure.

Like, what's the most overrated movie in black culture? Boomerang? I don't know. Whoa. Oh, dude. What? No? Yeah, we got rabbit on, man.

Yeah. Eddie Murphy did better. Wow. You wanted me to say Black Panther. You wanted me to say that. I know that's your real answer. No, that's Charles' answer. That's Charles.

I know that's your real answer. I want to let you know something. There's, you think that saying Boomerang is a better answer than Black Panther? I do take that movie, by the way. It is a hundred times worse. That's maybe the most beautiful, black movie that has ever been made. First of all,

we got our own ad agency in Boomerang, right? All these beautiful black women. We got Eddie Murphy. We got Chris Rock. We got Martin Lawrence. We got David Allen Greer, John Witherspoon. That movie is black culture. What don't you like about it?

It's a little misogynist. What's a misogynist about it? Let's talk about it. He cheats on her. He acts like it's not a big deal. When does he act like it's not a big deal? Well, because he's, well, like, At the end, he was, like, better about it.

But I don't know. Like, I'm really, I'm fighting for my life out here. I'm sweating. Jome, Jomey, what's your answer, bro? You're putting me up against the wall right now. Jomey, what's your answer, bro. I like boom right a lot. It's really good.

Wait. Fuck no. We're staying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, let's ask the, let's ask the audience. Should we give Steve a pass? Let me tell you. Hey, hey, let me tell you something right now.

Let me tell you something right now. I'm going to stall them out, but I'm going to be real with y'all about something. This is why y'all niggas ain't never going to advance. Because we got them on the ropes right now. And y'all want to let them go. Every time we get them up, y'all come out here and y'all say,

hey, let's forget about it. Let's be better than them. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Can I say this at NADJ? That's the beautiful thing about black people. White people, they got that. Black people like, we forgive you. It's fine.

We're bigger people. To our detriment, anyway. I don't want to have this conversation. Like, you guys are still young. You got a little bit more living to do. Oh, all right. Jomey, what's your adjoin? By the time you get to my age, you're going to be water your lawn and your robe.

Like, fuck them all. But anyway, go ahead. Joey. We're not going to afford a lawn. Jomey, what's yours? Oh, boy. I very clear remember trying to put this movie on and, like, falling asleep because I just couldn't watch the whole thing.

It was mad boring. Loving basketball. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. It sucks. The movie is, the movie is, hey, I'm sorry.

Hey, guys, I'm sorry. Hey, safe space. Safe space. Wait, you're hurt? Hey, safe space. You're hurt? Safe space. Wait, wait, come.

Why are you? Objectively bad movie. Safe space. Yeah, talk to the mic. Come on, sister. Come on, sister. Talk to us. I'm hurt about that.

I'm sorry. I'm hurt. That's a classic. That's a classic. It classically put me to sleep. Like, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. But it's like two actors that are like, you know what I'm saying?

I love Sinaya. That's not even her name. Sinaii. Sanaya. You can't get her name right. God damn. Sinai. That's not even her name.

So you can't call out the movie and you don't know her name. You can call it the movie you don't know her name. My fault. Sonia. Damn, Stephen Joan, you getting packed up out here. It's tough. It's rough. Wait, am I next now?

You're next. I don't want to get fucked up by these people. Shit. You know, I don't know if it's the most overrated, but it's the one that I, like, curse my aunties for showing me too young. I don't fuck with Crooklyn like that. Uh, Crooklyn's okay. It scared me.

Crooklyn's okay. Crooklyn's not that. I mean, you know, it's like it's spike. It's good stuff. You know, Crooklyn's okay. Yeah, Crooklyn, Crookin's not a bad answer. I don't know how we rate Crooklyn. I don't know if Crooklyn would be rated.

I'm not seeing it's overrated. It's just you shouldn't show it. kids. It's a lot. That's another thing. Shouldn't show it to kids. That's another generational thing. Like, I saw Harlem Nights maybe when I was like seven years old, like with my dad and people like that. But like, when things got like, did you have car seats when you were growing up? No. As a matter of fact, there's a very funny story of me actually almost falling out of my uncle's truck when he was driving drunk with a, he was reaching for a pack of mint snuff and he was trying to put the snuff in his mouth.

And I was reaching for something. And the door opened and he grabbed it. And he told, he told that story to the day he died like he was fucking funny. I'll tell you what? Van wouldn't be here. Van was almost dead. 1984.

You want to hear the story? And my mother would just be like, and my dad would be like, he's a man. If you fall, whatever happens. All right, the answer is Black Panther. Most over-a-moving culture. Let's talk about it real quick.

The answer is Black Panther. Yeah. You didn't like that. Look at you. You're so well dressed, but I finally brought it out of you. That was the whole point of this. You sitting here, you're looking all regal. I'm like, I'm going to bring a nigga out of him.

So, so. Jesus Christ. Let me tell you, let me tell you why it is. Black Panther is a fantastic achievement for a lot of reasons. The question is not what's the worst movie. The question is, what's the most overrated movie? We like Black Panther. It's okay to like Black Panther.

the reality is we acted like Black Panther was the second coming of Black Jesus right? We got all dressed up we see people, we're doing this we're doing that you know. We was doing too much in the theater if we're real. Like the people in Atlanta

changed the fucking thing in the airport to go into Wakanda, we did too much. And it's okay. Now the next movie will come out it'll be one of the best things that have ever happened ever in life. You know what I mean? It'll be very sad. But for the first one, the movie's a little over That's all I'm saying.

But before we go to the next question, can y'all yell out? What do you guys think is the most overrated black movie? I want to hear from y'all. Life. I agree. Not that good. Most overrated black movie. Any dollar pair?

Damn. Damn. I'm telling you Tyler somewhere right now, like, shit, what the fuck is biting me? Like, he just got hit twice. Who else? What else? Huh? Most overrated movie in black culture.

Come on. House for party. House party! House party! In the culture. House party? You're talking about... Do you talk about House Party one?

Okay, okay. Me, yo. Oh, my God. House Party is a classic. House Party is a classic. House party is a classic. Anybody else? All right, you don't want to do it anymore.

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Oh, it's your question. My question. My question. You know, so I wanted to, you know, do a little something different, you know, switch it up a bit. and we're going to go through, you know, the Battle of the Billionaires, man, or really trillionaires, who would you,

if you had to, like, be one of these people for the rest of your life, who would you rather be? Would you rather be Tchala or Bruce Wayne? All right, there's only one answer to this. Easy answer.

Easy answer. Dog, Bruce Wayne dresses up as a bad at night and beats up black people. Like, come on, bro. Like, for real. If we're going to be real? Like, really? You want to be Batman?

No, I mean, like, I think it's a little closer, you know, than you think. But I would, you know, I'm already African royalty, you feel me? So I'm going with Tichai. Yeah, I might not know this, but Jomi's grandfather is a king in Nigeria. No, for real. We learned this yesterday. He really is. It's true.

Jomi's grandfather is the king of Nigeria. The only thing about that is that almost every nigger I know from Nigeria, his grandfather is a king from Nigeria. So that's the only thing. Batman or Tachala? Tachala. Tachala. Easy. I'm rich.

You can only say Tachala, Steve. Of course. No, but good reason, too. Good reason, too. I'm richer. I live in a way better city. That is true. I got a way better city.

You do. You do. I got both my parents. Yeah. I got a way better shit. Jesus Christ. Your dad's dead. Wow.

Your dad died violent. Depending on when. Your dad died. Depending on when. Your dad, you're the king. You're the king. Pops passed away. He was also,

he was also protected for a time while his dad was king. It's true. Okay? Let me tell you why it's Bruce Wayne. No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you why it's Bruce Wayne. Let me tell you why it's Bruce Wayne. So, first of all, if I was Bruce Wayne, I wouldn't be like Bruce Wayne. Because the only way to make me white is to give me like a whole lot of money.

Because if you gave me a whole lot of money, a lot of causes that are out there right now, like I'd be honest with you, I wouldn't care about them. You know what I mean? I care about that stuff now because I feel a kinship to it. But how I've been born different, I could have had a whole different life. and I think about that sometimes. Think about Tachala, like, Wakanda is dope, but they hiding.

They got like a camouflage over their country. Nobody knows. You think Tachala went to spring break as a trillionaire and was chilling? You think Tachala was hanging out with the American rappers? You think, nah, Tachala wasn't doing all of that. Tachala was like he had to hide.

No one could even know. They're so scared of people taking the vibranium that they had to hide who they are. Not Bruce Wayne. I'm pretty sure Spring cake and Wakanda is great. Wakanda is great. But the reality is

like a prison can be super beautiful. Any beautiful place can be a prison if you can't leave. Is Wakanda? Is that what you're saying? If you can't leave. They can leave. You can leave. You can leave.

First of all, first of all, let me ask you question. They got to act like they're poor. Like when we first think about being a Wakanda, when we first get to the Wakandas, it's one of the poorest countries. in the world. No, it's not as lit. They got to pretend and all of that. Bruce Wayne has the freedom of being able to be exactly who he is. So if you're asking me who I want to be, you know, I'm being a contrarian here, but I would say that it would be Bruce Wayne for me.

Plus, I like Batman, bro. The worst I ever got flamed on Twitter, ever. I've been flamed on Twitter. All right. My question, what is the most important movie, show, book, piece of media that someone has showed you that completely changed your life. Bryson Tiller's Trapsoe. You're a sad man. You're a sad man. How about a sad man?

Trapsoe? Hell yeah. That's a good album. Trapsol changed your life. How did it change your life? Dog, I was going through a rough breakup and I remember it. Oh, it's the breakup album.

Yeah, my brother was in the car. I started tearing up to Trapsoe. He's like, dog, stand the fuck up, bro. You cried? You cry? I support that, bro. Right, man, let your emotions out. That album is hard, though.

A lot of people would dish you about that, but I think, I know that you like it, like, irrationally, but it's a good album. It's a good album. Jomey, what about you? Don't say agents of the shield. It's the Avengers. It's not Asians as a Shield.

It's the Avengers. Second answer, runner-up is fantastic for it, but we don't have time to go into that. Somebody showed you that? Showed me? Yeah, like, you know about this.

Oh, then the answer is Avatar the Last Airbender. Okay, yeah. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My homie was like, you got to tap in. I was like, say less. Yeah.

And my life changed. It was great. Since then. So, yeah. Do you guys want to have story time real quick about this answer? Shut up, Isaiah. Here we go. So it's actually a very, very intimate and meaningful moment about the best thing I've ever been

shown. It has to do with me and my mother. So I'm like 19 or 10 years old, right? And me and my mom, my mom would always try to challenge me and show me stuff. But a lot of stuff she would show me I, like, wouldn't understand it, right? Like, she'd sit you down. She'd put on, like, Minister Farrakhan. I'd be like, you know, what is he talking about?

Like, he seems angry. Wait, how did you guys watch Minister Farrakhani? You didn't have, like, you two. We had VHS tapes. Oh, okay. That's rough. Okay, whatever, dog. I'm moving on.

So one day, me and my mother are watching do the right thing. And we're watching the movie. And my mother, she's into the fact that I can understand it. Like, I'm to the point in my life where I get what's going. and on. Like, I see people happening and I'm, like, enthralled by the movie. She looks at me and she goes, and like, when she tells the story, she gets all emotional

and stuff like that, you know how Black Mamas be. But she looks at me and she goes, you like this? I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's like, it's like going on. Like, I'm into it. And she goes, you know, Mookie, the guy who plays Mookie in the movie, he wrote and directed the movie. And I was like, what does that mean? And she said, well,

he made up everything and then when he made after he made it up he's the one standing and telling everybody what they have to do and I looked at her

I didn't miss the beat I was like they let black people do that I mean how old are you like nine nine or ten I'm like they let black people do that and I remember her eyes

bucked and she went she said yeah like you can do like whatever it is that like you want to do and no one could or should be able to tell you what it is that you can do. And so we continue to watch the movie. And I look over and she's crying.

And I'm like, Mama, why are you crying? And she's like, what have I done to make you think that you couldn't do that? And I'm thinking, I'm like, I don't even know what the question means. I'm like, why is she upset that I said that? I have no clue what's going on? I'm like, what have I, she's like, what did I do to make you think that, there was something that was out of the loop for you. And she hadn't done anything.

The thing was growing up in Baton Rouge that every important person I ever saw in my life was white. Every single person. Like, if I had to go watch one of my uncles on trial, the judge was white, the lawyers were white. If you had to go to the doctor, the doctor was white. Like, I was friends with, like, the governor's son. He was in the gift program with us. The governor was white. All the people that waited on the governor were black.

but he was white. Everybody was white. So in my mind, as much work as she had done and she had done a shit ton of work with me, and my mind important meant white. And so she, she, she spent the next X amount of time, like, breaking me out of that, like taking that away from me, like divorcing me from that. And I never forget, Spike Lee came to Southern University. And I told Spike Lee, like that story. And he was like, oh, cool, nice to meet you. And then he smashed out. But for me, every time I think about do the right thing, I think about the fact that the movie itself is an incredible achievement, but more so even than the achievement, sometimes when you get into those films and into that stuff, the realization that Spike isn't a one-off is more important

than the movie. The realization that those are things that you can do and the inspiration that comes from those films, and like, it means a lot more. And so, like, when I think about the movie, and every time I come home, like, me and her watch it and stuff like that. And it gets weird when Rosie Perez goes topless, but whatever. But, like, that is the movie that opened me up to the fact that I wanted to come out here, well, not here, but to L.A., and do all of that stuff. Because before then, I didn't have a concept of it. That's so beautiful, because you think about it, that one conversation with a nine-year-old kid, could you imagine you would get an Academy Award one day? Like, that's like a domino effect.

No, no. You can clap for the Academy Award. No, I really seriously meaning that I clap. I won't an Academy Award, thank you. What's the next question that we're doing? All right, I got one for you. You got one for you? Yeah, yeah.

What story in media did you initially hate that you came around to? Initially hated? You didn't like it at first, but after you watched it a bunch of times, then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is good. Matrix Revolution. I knew it. I knew it. Oh, my God.

Not my God. We're not. this year. Not that bullshit. We can do this here, we're not doing this here. I'm asking. You stop talking.

You're big Wachowski. The reality situation is you guys. A racist resurrection, should I say. You guys, like, I know there's a lot of people out here that like, you know, think they understand the Matrix and I get it. But if I was to ask people in this audience right now to describe the six cycles of Zion or the theory of being the one you guys can't do it.

And so when I would tell you, if you wouldn't saw the Matrix Resurrections and you didn't like it, what I would say. to use that you weren't qualified to watch it. And until you're qualified, don't talk to me about whether or not the movie is good. What does that mean? I got to do homework to watch the movie. Absolutely. You got to write the term paper.

You have to do homework to watch the movie. This is my hot. This is my hotest take. I hated it when it came out. Y'all are going to fucking hate me for this. I didn't fuck with Good Kid Mad City when it came out. I thought that shit was whack, bro. I thought that shit was whack.

Let me tell you all about Charles real quick. And a lot of just real quick. That's so nuts. It's real quick. It's real quick. And a lot of y'all are just maybe just getting acquainted with Charles. Obviously, that is a fucking ludicrous thing to say, right? But that's how Charles is.

Like, Charles is the one, he's the roles that grew through the concrete. Like, he takes the road less traveled. What in the world could you possibly not have enjoyed about Good Kid Mad City? I don't know. Get that fucking boompety-bap like, oh, man, hot group and comping shit out of here, bro. I was like, no. Bro, the disrespect is crazy. It was the question was you grew to love it.

I grew to love it. But at first, like, I heard backseat freestyle and it was like, dog, man. Backseat freestyle is not one of the dopest songs on the album, no. So you don't like Money Trees? You don't like the art of proof, peer pressure? I love it.

Like, Jay Rock has the best person on that whole album. No, that's, okay, whatever. I'm over it. The podcast is almost over. I'm too much. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't have it anymore. We in Vegas.

Jomey? Something that I hated that, grew to love. You know, Captain Marvel at first. That movie fucking sucks. That movie's terrible, right?

That movie sucks. Listen, I didn't say, I didn't say it was great. I say, like, when I rewatch it, I watched it for binge mode, rewatch it during my MCU rewatch during the pandemic, I was like, hey, man, you know,

this, you know, it's bad, but it's not Dark, Thor of the Dark World bad. Like, I didn't like hate myself when I was watching it. You know what I'm saying? Like it was cool. I was like, all right. Hey, get that check from Disney. Br, you fucking with that? All right, Steve, what about you?

Honestly, La La Land. I hated that when it came out. La Land is beautiful. I know, but I was just like, they're just dancing in the sky on the freeway. That's the stupid. And then I watched it a couple more times. I was like, yeah, this is all right. This is good. La La La Land's good. Yeah. All right, guys. You've indulged us for an hour. We've talked. We've bore our souls to you guys. These are the Midnight Boys. This is Steve Almond Joy, the Cuddly's Activist Bear.

This is Jomey, the explainer, Adirond. You've got questions. He's got answers. Charles, Holmes, the 24-carried closer, and old man, van, he of the receding hairline. By the way, just let you guys know. My hairline is receding now, but I'm changing that this year. I found a place.

A place. Can you just, what do they do with this place? Just let me get this out real quick. Okay. Okay. I've been thinking about it. I'm 42. and I saw the oldest video with Kanye West, remember that guy, and Jay-Z.

And Hove was my same age in that video, and I was like, this nigga looks young. So this is what I'm going to do. I got a whole youth package I'm doing. Oh, my God. After we get back from Greece. They got a package? It's a youth package. Number one, first one, B, B, L.

That's the first thing I'm doing. I support that. Because I put on a little way. Who's there? Yeah. Who's there? I know it's got to be, let's want BBL in here. Take it out of here, but not into my ass, to my calves, baby, build them up. You know what I'm saying?

And then I'm going to go to this hairline place. And because it's like only a couple places I'm thin, really. But we got to push the whole line back because of those couple places. I'm not dealing with that. Wait, it's going to be like the LeBron shit where it's like some days it's there and some days. Don't forget about here. Don't forget about here. But back there, I'm not actually too bad.

The pandemic came and everybody looked bad. and everybody had great and I'm thinking why am I going through this? All y'all do is make fun of me I'm losing my hair it's coming back when my hair line comes back

don't say shit just be like Van I'm fucking with you bro you look great you're gonna be looking like Jalen Rose out there shut the fuck up

shout out to my man Jayley looks great we are the midnight boys and we are all right that's a wrap it's a lot of fun Arjuna jump on real quick what's up

Arjuda Can we count on you for the before and after picks of your hair? Yeah, absolutely. I'll hit up Joe, me. I'll send him the pictures. He'll post. I love this. It'll be great.

Now, we're not voting here. What we're doing is we're taking a look at Arjuna when he's being a boy band member. And we're taking a look at Arjuna when he's actually being a boss suit type. Because if you don't think that you, I jokingly call Arjuna the suit because he's the business guy, like from Ontario. If you don't think you look like a suit now, Arjuna, you look like a fucking Fortune 500 CEO on the cover of some magazine. This is how I built my tech billion

is what you look like now. But it looks good, boy. I tell you straight up, Arjuna's doing this thing, man. Look at his jawline. Who knew? So we're going to vote on Arjuna's hair on the feed. Thanks to the other Midnight Boys, It's Jomey, and of course, Chuck, who's on vacation right now.

Thank you to Steve. We loved it. We have been the Midnight Boys. You can find us. Our producer is Steve, the architect, Allman. Jomi, the explainer, Adiron, is on social media. Jomey. Hachey, Adina get a girlfriend.

What? Jomey Adina get a girlfriend. Adena. Adena, get a girlfriend. Addena Ron. Adela. Jomey, Adina, get a girlfriend. Oh, wow.

That's so good. I really have a fun time with these. On social media and additional production from the suit himself, Arjuna Ramkopol. Special thanks to the entire staff at the loft, including Ergiana Franco, who might be related to Julio Franco, who's one of the best hitters in the history of in the Major League Baseball situation, for accommodating us during the live show. We don't have Charles.

Oh, yeah. Should we try it? Okay, yeah. All right, let's try it. The live show is over. It went off without a hitch. This is the hard part because, like, Charles works from the rhyme backwards.

Okay, so it's, okay, wait, the live show is fun. Mess with us if you dare. Mess with us if you dare. I hope that you'll give a great opinion about Arjuna's new hair. Pugh-pue? Gonna go with it.

Gonna go with it. Poo-poo! All right. Charles, you're really great at this. This is hard every time. Charles has never missed. This is hard. It's tough.

And I was, I was going to say something about somebody being a bitch. That is it. We'll see you guys next time. We're out. As part of the Ringerverse podcast feed on the Ringer Podcast Network.

Why are we saying that now? Oh, I mean, that was technically the outro from the live show, but like we can, yeah. I'll just say that. Oh. Oh, you want me to do that for the live show? No, no, no. That was the outro for the live show that we had had. Like, that was the note that like the guy that outro. No, now you have to leave it.

Now because it's in the document. Anything that's in, like, anything that's in this document. Van Lathen read it. Like, I'm telling you, like, leave it in. Like, I'm like, why is that? Everybody knows who you are. Anything that's in this document. Van Lathan will read.

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