The Ringer-Verse - 2022 Fall Hype Meter | House of R

Episode Date: August 12, 2022

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Today, on the eve of the dawn of content, McGettin, we're breaking out the old House of our hype meter. To count down, our 10 most antithes, respective releases for the months to come. One of the first podcasts that we did together, not the very first, but one of the first in the House of our era was our fall 2021 height meter. And now we're doing a fall 22 height meter. I can't believe it.

It's already time for that one. Well, we did that one in October. We were doing this one in August. So let's just say the hype meter, not exact science, but here we are. October going to be a little busy, a little busy in October. So we're doing it now. we've never strictly abided by the calendar actual flow of the seasons. And guess what?

We're not going to today either. And we might as well dive right into the rules. Time frame. We are as usual using that word fall, autumn, whatever you prefer, quite loosely. Fall starts in late September. But for the purposes of this exercise today, anything that debuts from what is today's date, August 11th, Friday, August 12th, onward, through the end of the calendar year, which also, by the way, is beyond the end of fall, technically, and into that first week

of winter, we're allowing it. This is from August 12th through the end of the calendar year. Anything with a release date in that time is eligible. You might be saying, hey, last time, didn't you have a wild card spot for something that didn't have a release date? You did. We did. But guess what? We're not doing that today because, frankly, we've been burned too many times. Remember when Sandman on my fall, 2021, 8-meter? Remember when you had the winds of winter being completed by George R. Martin? Well, that I still believe is imminent.

And I just... Any day now. Can't wait. I know it's a thing that we're going to get to share and enjoy together soon. Any minute now. Any minute now. Right. We count down from 10 to 1.

and it's a shared discussion. So if we have the same title on our list, but in different spots, we will talk about that thing at the higher spot. So if, for example, you, Joanna Robinson, have She-Hulk at four, and I have it at seven, when I say it's my pick at seven, And you'll say, I've got that coming later.

And then we'll talk about it later. But here's the other thing. I don't know where you have Sheehawk on your list because I don't know anything about your list. And you don't know anything about mine. We're going to surprise each other. It's a secret. I love secrets. Secrets and surprises.

Oh, boy. And smuggles. Are we smuggling anything? I've got a smuggle coming. I've got two smuggles. I got a smuggle coming. We'll probably hit some honorable mentions at the end. If there's anything that we forgot,

then Jomi and Steve and Arjuna will, you know, lightly scald and shame us and mention that at the end of the podcast so that all of you know it's coming and that it's something that the ring of universe is excited for. Friendly neighborhood spoiler warning, you know what? Not sure what to say. Anything that we talk about. Anything in that story universe.

that is already out in the world is something that we can talk about. Trailers, we can talk about. Marketing material we can talk about. But that's it. Nothing from the actual thing. Because we haven't seen any of this. That's part of why we're hyped. We're finally going to get to. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Trimphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tramphia is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks. If your doctor decides that you can self-inject Trimphia, proper training is required.

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with your number 10. What do you got? Okay. My first smuggle. Oh, right away. And also possibly a controversial placement. Ooh. Maybe.

I don't know. It depends how people feel. Number 10 is a two-fer and is the offerings of the DC-EU. So it's Shazam, Fury of the Gods, and it's Black Adam, a two-fur. Do you have one of these higher? I have both of them higher. Great. On my list.

Let's talk about it later. Only slightly. But yes, I have both of them. There's a lot of messiness going on over at good old Warner Brothers. So I have some questions, but I didn't want to leave them off. So Shazam and Black Adam will talk about them. What's your number 10? My number 10, I can say with confidence, dare I say certainty, will be higher on your list.

I just have no doubt. This will be one of the shocks of my life if you do not say to me, this is higher on my list. Willow. Willow is higher on my list. There you go. Okay. Then we'll talk about it later. What's your number nine?

Okay. This is my second and last smuggle. It's another two-fer. And I just was, I wanted to look at the world of comic books and put some comics on the list here. Love it. And there's two titles that I'm really interested in. One is fantastic for Full Circle. And this is, if you haven't looked into this, I mean, it had a big, like,

Comic-Con splashy sort of coming out. So people might have seen it there. It's going to be out for people to have regular non-comcom people to have in September 6th. But this is from Alex Ross, who's, like, a sort of renowned comic book artist. He's done a lot of cut. Like, if you look up some of his covers, like the D.C. Kingdom Come covers from the mid-90s, like, I think that's his most famous stuff. Like a lot of Norman Rockwell-esque Justice League stuff is what he's done.

But he's both written and drawn this new Fantastic Four book that's part of a new imprint from Marvel and Abrams, which is called Marvel Arts. So it's like sort of a big hardcover. And it's just absolutely gorgeous color everywhere, many, many splash pages. And so it's part of a new project that they're launching to highlight a moment. more artistic take on some of their more classic heroes. So I'm really, really excited to get my hands on that. I think that's going to be incredible. And then the other one is a more sort of straightforward graphic novel from Kate

Beaton, who's most famous for doing Harkavakrant, that incredible comic series. And she's got a comic coming out September 13th called Ducks Colon, Two Years in the Oil Sam. This is sort of an autobiographical graphic novel, but it's something that she's been working on for years and years and years and years and years, and years. And everyone is really excited. It seems like an extremely personal project from, you know, a very witty and interesting comic book writer and artist. So, or comic strip. I don't know what you would call Harcow Vakavakran, but just really incredible, incredible stuff.

So September 13th is Ducks and Fantastic 4 September 6th. That's my number nine. Wonderful. That's a delightful smuggle. A great one. Double digest. Some, you know, I'm a September baby. Some birthday reading recos, delightful.

I also have a smuggle at nine, Joe. I doubled up at nine as well. Look at that. I'm going with the MCU. holiday special bundle here. Because they're third two. We've got the untitled Halloween special and the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special.

So to start with the Halloween special, this is, as you may have guessed from the Halloween focus, going to be airing in October on Disney Plus. We know very little about this, but the things that we do know so far are quite intriguing. I don't know why I'm lowering my voice

and slowing my pace in this way, but it's happening, so I'm just going to roll with it. Michael Giacchino is directing this. Our shared love, Gail Garcia Bernal is starring in this. We're getting Werewolf by Night. I saw a fun theory on Collider

from Shane Romanshick, that maybe the role that music plays in the Jake Gomez version of the character's transformation could be why Gianquino, a composer, is making this story. I thought that was like a really fun idea. Other than a couple shorts, I believe this is Michael J. Kino's directorial debut, and that's really, like, it's a really exciting crossover, a rare crossover from the composer field into the director field. So it's pretty exciting. So intrigued to see what he does. I really can't wait. Will we get a Moonnight connection, some Midnight Suns action?

You know, in general, we've talked a lot about Marvel horror and what the continued rollout of that might be. So maybe we'll learn more here and just really hyped for, hyped for this. Then we go to December. Can I say one more thing about that? Please. Yeah. I didn't know it was untitled.

For some reason, I thought it was called Werewolf by Night. So I'm excited to hear like what they decided to call it. But I believe it's in black and white, which is kind of exciting because I think they're trying to go for like kind of a cool like hammer horror kind of old school vibe to it. How fun. Yeah, it can be really fun. Can't wait. We can pair this on a ringer versus Zoom. We can sync up our watch and then all yell at each other about our candy preferences again. Like we did last Halloween, you know. Oh, my God. Keep the tradition going.

Choices. Yeah, great. Love that. The only thing unhinged is the way I unhinge my jaw to down those dots. Steve knows they're fucking great. And then in December, we have the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special, also on Disney Plus, just in general. Steve chiming in five minutes later on the Zoom chat to say dots high. Thank you for your support, Steve. It's a hive of two. It's literally just Mallory and Steve. keeping the entire dots industry afloat. There are dozens of us, just like there are dozens of boxes of dots in my pantry at all times.

We've had a candy update, if you want to call it that, since the Halloween candy draft, we should say really quickly, my new favorite tradition is that when either you, and I've just like glom, you had a tradition with Jomey where you guys would text each other photos of your Welsh food snacks before a flight. Yeah. And I was like, I just want to do that too. So I just like started a new text chain. So now the three of us text each other's photos of our Welsh's fruit snacks before a flight.

As I told you both, when I had a very early morning flight the other week and didn't have the Welch's fruit snacks, I was like, have I even landed? Am I on this mortal plane? I don't, I don't know. I don't know. In general, we're just back in a guardian zone right now, and I, for one, am elated. You know, we got to spend a few moments with the Guardians in Thorloaf and Thunder. The Groot Shorts are here. the tweets from the San Diego Comic-Con about the just tears streaming freely down people's faces as they got to enjoy that glimpse of Guardians volume three footage. Like, I'm just, I'm really genuinely excited that we get to spend time with these characters and in this slice of the canon again.

And James Gunn seems very energized about this holiday special. is like casually tweeting as he, you know, as he loves to about his stories, about how this special would, quote, be introducing one of the greatest MCU characters of all the time. So can't wait to learn more about that. But if it's James Gunn, that could mean like a gelatinous pile of goo. You know what I mean? That's part of why it's fun and exciting. We genuinely have no idea what that might mean.

He has also said that this will be the epilogue to phase four, because of course, we know now that phase four is concluding with Wakanda Forever that this holiday special is going to be set between in terms of the canon timeline, Thor Love and Thunder and Guardians 3. You know, I just think like holiday vibe, right? Which set of characters in the MCU would you rather spend your holidays with than the Guardians? I can think of no other place I'd rather pile into around the holidays than the Benatar for some Zarg nut holiday pie. with Drax. I'm in. No, I think it's a perfect opportunity.

Like, I anticipate that'll be really fun in its own right. I also anticipate that it's going to, like, make fun of the Star Wars holiday special. You know, like, I think this is a perfect place for James Gunn to just sort of do what he does best is something like this. Or maybe it will be an ode to that absolute classic bit of pop culture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

In praise of the famed, no one has ever said a bad thing about it, holiday special. All right. Is it my turn? What do you got? So you asked me before we started if I had anything that didn't have a release date and I said no. But this is a slight lie. Only that I know it's coming out in 2022. I just don't know which month.

It's just Netflix being Netflix and not saying which month, but I know it's coming out. Okay. And it's something called 1899. Are you aware of this? Yes. This is, yeah, this is from the creators of your beloved dark. Yes. Right. This is a great pick. I'm annoyed with myself for not picking this. I fucking love Dark, as you know. I know you do. I think because this doesn't have a release date. I just wasn't thinking about this as a end of 2022 release, but you're right. This is like imminent, right? I think it's coming. I think it's coming in October, but it could be later. But, but I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, I think. Netflix's like, you know, because it's a mystery. So your love of dark is going to have to do battle with the fact that this is definitely a horror show. So like, we'll see. But this is a mystery horror. This is the premise. A group of European migrants leave London on a steamship to start new lives in New York City.

But when they encounter another migrant ship, a drift on the open sea, their journey begins to turn into a nightmare. 1899 is the year that this is set, right? And it's got a large cast of, you know, people of all nationalities. but the person who voices the trailer, they never show him, but I knew his voice anywhere. It's Anton Lesser, aka Kaiburn himself. I was like, classic Kyburn,

being creepy on a trailer. And it just looks incredible, really lush and beautiful. And I love a period piece mystery. I love a seafaring mystery. So, yeah. And as we said, like Dark is an incredibly, underrated piece of genre fiction. So I thought this would be a really fun thing to put on the list.

Sensational. Okay, three things. One, I just like almost one of them in my list in real time and just say I have that here at this spot too. And then my next two, which spoiler, the two DCEU movies can just be bundled like yours were. And we could just talk about it all together. Two, you mentioned Anton, you mentioned Kaiburn. I mean, he's in Andor too. It's Kuy-Bern season.

and now is overjoyed. I mean, it's always Skyburn season, frankly. Hot Kyburn season. Love that for us. Three, Steve, what's your dark update? I haven't gotten one in a while.

Just began season two working on the next one with the girlfriend where I'm sworn to only watch it with her so it's going to be incremental. How many times have you seen each episode in season one? You said you were re-watching them as you went, right?

So my thing is like, I watched each episode once with the subtitles, once again with the dub, and then once again with the subtitles again, so that I could turn my brain off, get the plot, get all of that stuff. So I've pretty much seen every episode three times from season one. A dark scholar.

I've got my flow chart. I got my whole thing. Yeah. I was going to say I have some infographics to introduce to you later. Right. No, because I can't Google flow charts because I'm going to get massively spoiled. No.

No. No. Not Google flow. In the internet, Steve, is that a problem for you in your job? It is a little bit, but not when it comes to the show. No. Steve, should I send you a cork board and some red yarn and some new cards? Yes, please.

I'll do that. Can you also send him a yellow raincoat while you're at it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And a German-English dictionary, yes. Right, yes. Oh, God. Wow.

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Dutton Ranch starring Colehauser Kelly Riley, Annette Benning, and Ed Harris, now streaming on Paramount Plus. Okay, so my original before my in real-time amendment, number eight, was Black Adam. So should we talk about that here now? Yeah, let's do it. Take it away. I've heard that it's going to change forever the hierarchy of power in the DCU, Power hierarchy. The hierarchy of power in the DC universe. is about to change.

Is that what the Rock likes to say? Weird. Where did you hear that? I haven't heard that anywhere. I don't know. A whisper on the wind. I don't know why I'm not more excited for this movie. I like The Rock in general. Usually his big splashy genre stuff is fun.

So I don't know why I think I just like don't have a ton of faith in what Warner Brothers is doing right now. It seems really messy over there. And so it's just sort of like a wait and see. Like I love the Batman a lot, right? So that came out of the DCU. But there's just a lot of mess going on. That's too, you know. I'm always going to see it.

And with a mind and a heart open. I just haven't seen anything yet where I'm like, cannot fucking wait to see it. You know what I mean? How about you? Yeah. So this is coming out in October, October 21st. I had like a similar feeling, you know,

I am intrigued and eager to see the movie. but the overall, like, state of WB and how that's impacting DC, etc., you know, makes it hard to be, like, placing this any higher on the list right now, which, whether that's fair or not, there's just like, that's kind of the air around all of this right now. I will say, though, you know, you mentioned the hierarchy of power. Hierarchy of power in the DC universe is about to change.

line that has been so central to the promo tour for the movie. And I mean this sincerely. I stand in awe

of the hype meter that the rock is rolling out for this movie. Like the hype generating tour that he is leading

is incredible. That's just his life. Like I remember this level of enthusiasm for like rampage or whatever that tower one was where that tower was on fire. And I've seen them all. I see them all. I buy what he's selling. I mean, are you, are you current on, on, on ballers? One of the most important television

shows in the history of television. Do you want to talk about ballers? No. First of all, just always hoping one day someone to want to talk to me about ballers and whatever does. First of all, how dare you ask me about a sports adjacent property? Secondly, this is why I'm like half convinced that the rock is going to run for president one day and win. Like, I feel very sure that the Rock wants to be president. And I feel equally sure that we dummies, me included, are probably going to line up to vote for him. So, yeah.

That's my height meter for. What's the campaign announcement equivalent of coming out at Comic Con in, in full kit, in full costume? Because that's a thing that happened. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Remarkable. Yeah, I mean, I just think that the hierarchy of power in Washington.

The hierarchy of power in the DC universe is about to change. It's about to change forever. Oh, God. You know, like one thing I will say, though, I don't really know anything about this canon, like the comics. I'm going to dip in a bit before the movie. but sometimes that makes me anxious in the run-up to a release. But here it actually enhances my excitement and hype a little bit because it does just feel like a totally new thing for me.

You know, oh, going to meet new characters, learn about new power sets. Discover how the hierarchy of power is going to change in the DC universe. Because the hierarchy of power in the DC universe is about to change. Steve, every time we say that, you should put this. I was literally going to do that in post. I was going to put every single time.

And guess what? There's multiple different clips that I can use. So I won't run out. Aldous Hodge, who I love, is also in this. Noah Centenio, who has been, like, threatening to break out for several years since to all the boys I live before is also in this. Threatening to break out. How dare you?

Jomi is on this call and we'll talk about Netflix rom-coms at 80. Point should you tell him. It's what I've, trust me, I've seen the Two All the Boys trilogy. Like, I can talk about them with Jomey anytime he wants to talk about them. I can talk about how John Corbett is an excellent rom-com dad. I can talk about all of that. But like, when the first Two All the Boys came out, everyone was like, Noah Centeno, you know, Hulk Jr. when, you know, like, what's going on?

So this is sort of delivering on that problem. This has been a long, long, gestating project, too. Yeah, so I'm very, very curious. You can't change the hierarchy of power in the DC universe overnight. The hierarchy of power in the DC universe is about to change. Big time. Well, here's my question. Like, what do you think that means?

Like, who's going? Who's on the downturn after Black Adam? Is it Superman who like? It has to be about. Superman, right? Like, isn't that the only way that even as a recurring promo bit, that actually makes any sense?

I guess. Also, I have a theory about that? I am curious. It's a good question. I genuinely think that the rock is, A, low-key pissed off that he doesn't get to play Superman. So he, like, is kind of like overhyping Black Adam. And B,

if that's not the case, he desperately wants to fight Superman and win. No such thing is overhype. on the height meter. It's like a Tom Cruise, I must defy death, therefore I will mock it at every chance I get

kind of a thing. I mean, so this is like a direct spinoff is supposed to be a direct spinoff from Shazam, but now it's coming out before Shazam. Yes.

Should we talk about Shazam next? That's my next one. That's my number seven. So we could just do it all at once here. Do it. Okay. December 21st for Shazam, Fury of the Gods.

I've previously mentioned on our, on our little pod here, I believe that I just fucking love the first Shazam movie. Thought it was delightful. Surprising delight and just sheer source of joy. Helen Mirren entering the DCU

and appearing in the most recent trailer, the Comic Con trailer, and sitting there listening to Zachary Levi's Shazam make jokes about the Fast and the Furious franchise that Helen Mirren is. in. I see it.

Sign me up. It works for me. Yeah. It works for me. I'm there. I thought the trailer was fun. Didn't like blow me away,

but I thought it was fun. And I kind of liked that it leaned in nicely to that meta. I'm just me. How do I fit in among all of these like headlining,

famous bold font heroes? Because like that's part of the charm of this franchise. So will they be able to recapture the magic of the first film? That's the question. That's the question is like there was so much surprise. Like it was just, I think the main thing coming out of Shazam was like, wow, that was way better than I thought it was going to be.

So like when that expectation is set there, where can we go? That being said, Adam Brody, who showed up like at the end of the first one is now like a full-time cast member, thrilled, overjoyed. Are you an OC heart? Okay. Yeah, big OC head. Oh, yeah, Seth Cohen for a life. So, you know, and then Rachel Ziegler, who is such a delight, is during the cast as well. So I'm, yeah, I'm very optimistic, but like, you know, and I hope it completely blows me away.

That would be really fun. Yeah, so nothing bad to say, only pleasantly anticipating. I love it. I love it. What was your number seven? This is where I have She-Hilk. Wait, I correctly guessed exactly where you had She-Hulk in my opening bit. Look at that.

Yeah. Yeah. I really feel in the mind meld right now. Great stuff. Do you have it higher? I have She-Hulk higher. Yeah. I do.

Okay, great. Okay. So then that takes us to six, right? What's your number six? This is where we can talk about Willow. Okay. Wonderful. Yeah.

Everybody to talk about Willow? Yeah. This November. So November 30th. So I've talked about Willow before on the Ring Reverse as a 1988 film that I absolutely love with my whole heart and soul. We've talked about it as like various teasers have come out or whatever. But essentially, you know, they're making a TV series that looks very like it just looks like a Dungeons and Dragons campaign and that no knock on that. As I mentioned elsewhere, a Dungeons and Dragons campaign is not a deterrent.

for me. But it's got a great cast, including Aaron Kellerman, who I really, really, really, really like. I have always liked her in the two things I've seen her in. And just, like, really want a great, big, splashy adventure for her. And then it's got Joanne Wally, who was once Joanne Wally Kilmer, but is now back to Joanne Wally from the original, is here, As Sorsha. And I'm just, I'm really excited.

Like the music gets me nostalgic and excited. The chance to spend all this time with Warwick Davis gets me really excited. And this is developed by Jonathan Kazden, Laurence Kazan's son, who's worked on some of the other Lucasfilm things. And I just, I feel like it's in really sure good hands and everything I've seen so far makes me really excited. This is like, I mean, not like we're going to be lacking for hardcore fantasy. We'll talk about another hardcore fantasy property higher up the list. but there's nothing wrong with just going full-blown, no irony to it, fantasy.

And that's what Willow can offer to us. I don't think I know your, I mean, Van and I talked about it, but I don't know your relationship to Willow the film. You don't because the podcast, where you talked about this, I was not on. And so this is the first time that I get to tell you that I've never seen Willow. And then I put it on my list because I'm so,

excited to experience a thing that you love with you and get to share it with you. Can we watch it? Can we watch it together? Talking about it. Yes. Next time you're in LA. Let's do it. Absolutely.

There was already a ringer versus willow viewing party that I missed. The Midnight Boys did it, but now it's the house of our viewing. Yeah. I can't wait. Girl, you're going to cry. You're going to have such a good time. I'm ready. I can't wait.

Tears. High. Fantasy. Yeah. Warb Davis, I know all I need to know. A thing that you and Van love, I'm in. There's almost no way that I don't love this. It was really fun to be at the Star Wars Celebration panel where the whole Willow team came

out because you could just feel like a really palpable love for the story, you know, and like a sense of gratitude that they got to make this show. And I always think that's like a really neat and special thing. So I am excited to see Willow for the first time ever and then watch this television show. Can't. Oh, my God. I can't wait to watch Willow with you. There are a couple things that I'm like, boy, when will, when will it be the right moment to tell Joe?

I've never seen this thing that she loves. And, you know, we just checked one off the list. So that's helpful. That's great. Some pressure relieved from the pressure valve. There's one looming over me. I just, I don't know when it'll be the right time. one day.

I'm not going to tell you you want until it's the right time. Is it the TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer? I guess it's the right time. It's okay. I can tell by like the way in which all my references were met with like genial

silence. Yeah. Now of course I'm familiar with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. One day. Do you know who's watching Buffy Vampire Slayer right now? Van is watching Buffy

and was texting me about it last night. How far is Van? Yeah, it's like, based on what he was texting me about, it's season six. I think, yeah, season six. So far? Yeah. And he's like, holy shit is rough. Buffy is such tragic.

Season six is the dark season. That's where Van is. And I didn't, like, I knew that, for some reason I knew that Kalika, his partner was watching Buffy, but I did not know that he was watching with her. But apparently he's been watching Buffy. And I was like, how did you get all the way season six without telling me? me you were watching Buffy. Anyway, Van's watching Buffy.

Please stay tuned for when I forced Vant to podcast with me about Buffy. So incredible. Actually, I think that was, it was really Willow and Buffy. I think we're good now. And what's fun is that there's a willow in Buffy where you've got two willows to meet. Anyway. Delightful. Delightful.

Okay, so that was your number six. So we're on my number six? Mm-hmm. I don't think this is on your list. Star Wars, the Bad Batch. Season two. Bad Bad Batch season. It's not. Hit me. So,

season two is coming out this September, September 28th. So it's one week after Andor, which I wish we're not the case. You know, I wish that the Star Wars programming were a little more spaced out, but also, you know what? It's a bounty of goodness who can complain. I loved the first bad batch season. Loved it.

I, in general, as you've, know, adore the Star Wars animated shows. And I really, really cherish spending time in like that particular sphere of the ever-expanding Philoniverse. So I'm just hyped to go back. Like, I can't wait to learn more about Omega and continue on Omega's journey. I am, of course, eager to spend time with all of our other Clone Force 99 pals, Hunter, record tech, echo.

I want, dare I say, need to know what is next for my guy crosshair. I thought that the trailer was amazing. It promised, like, one of the things that I thought, more of one of the things that I thought the first season did really well. This is always a delicate balancing act in Star Wars, the canon connection, right? A connection to other aspects and properties across the Star Wars timeline. I thought Bad Bad Bad Season 1 nailed that.

And some of the glimpses of what awaits, and I'm sure there will be many, many surprises. Like, seeing Goonji in the trailer, I lost my mind. If you have not watched the gathering arc of Star Wars the Clone Wars in season five and she experienced the thrill of watching the younglings go to find their Geiber crystals,

I recommend it to you. And then you will also feel the thrill of the moment when you watch this trailer and see that green lightsaber ignite in front of our beloved wookie. A lot of Commander Cody speculation out there. I just, I just can't wait. I thought that there were a few arcs in particular in season one that were like really, really excellent.

Bat Batch is a long season. So, you know, there are always going to be parts that grab me a little bit more. But I just feel pretty confident heading in that there will be like, three or so four episode arcs that are really excellent and fill in nicely a key part of the timeline you know the rise of the empire ever heard of it joe ever heard of it i also did indeed watch and enjoy bad batch season one but um and one of the main joys for me is that D. Bradley Baker, who has done so much incredible voice work over the years

and many, like, a lot of, obviously, clone war stuff. But, you know, this is the voice of Apa, Momo, Naga, Pabu, like, this is, this is the guy. And, like, what he, how he gets to flex on this show by giving voice to all these different clones that are talking to each other. So it's just, like, 80% of this show. show is just D. Bradley Baker talking to himself, which is just such a flex. So if you're a DBB fan, you got to watch a bad batch. Okay. What's your number five? Andor. You have it higher?

Interesting. I do. I do indeed. It's too low for Andor. Okay. I'm not like the, no. No. I think about the top five is I'm so excited for all of these things and I just didn't know where to put everything and everything felt too low at five, but I am really excited for Andor, but it is my number five. What do you, we'll talk about that later, I guess. What do you have at five? This is where I have Sheehulk. Attorney at Lawyer show. Coming soon. Next week, August 18th. We're on Thursdays now with Shehawk. This is going to be a nine episode program. So slightly different time of the week, number of episodes, etc. Welcome to the MCU.

Jennifer Walters. Run times too, I think, right? Isn't this a shorter show? I think that's the murmur. Do we know definitively that that is true? It seems like this is a 30-minute show, right? Yeah. I think they're like 30-minute, 9 30-minute-ish episodes. And they're doing sort of a light zany, Davity Kelly, Allie McBeal lawyer comedy vibe to what we're doing here. This is part of what's exciting. Like, we've talked a lot over our many pods about the importance of of genre variants keeping things fresh in the MCU, getting a legal show with some of the familiar

returning faces and also these new characters. Can't wait. Get to spend time with our Guy Bruce Banner, Joe. Emil Blonsky back in the fold. I don't know what I'm overjoyed. We're getting more Wong.

Phase Wong. It is. It really legitimately is. And then Charlie Cox. Charlie Cox's Daredevil is in the show. We got a taste already, of course. And now we know that Daredevil Born Again is coming in Phase 5. But I think we're going to get more of a substantial feel for what the MCU's Daredevil is like.

And I can't wait. I'm in. I'm also in. Like, obviously, like, we've had some conversations about the VFX and how they look. And I've really just gotten to a place where I'm like, okay, I'm accepting that this is. is how this looks. Now let's see how like the story is and how, you know, like what kind of fun we can have with it. Because I've, I grew up watching a lot of 80s genre stuff. So I am very used to bad effects. And in like there's a lot of arguments in the FX community, whether or not this actually

is bad VFX or if we are just like sort of, if it's in an uncanny valley space that doesn't like sit right with our eyeballs or something like that. But, you know, Tatyana Mislani, is so incredible. I'm so excited to see her do something so light and fun, hopefully. And, you know, the 30-minute, we haven't had 30-minute run times on episodes since Wanda Vision. And I just, I loved the way that Wanda Vision just sort of sang and zipped through, you know, that was like a slightly longer, but 30 minutes. And so I think, I think some of the things that we've been encountering with some of these, like, we always say we want a longer season, but I'm not sure we ever really want longer episodes with these Marvel stories. It's not that the episodes themselves need more time, is that the story usually needs a little more time to breathe.

And so nine episodes of 30 minutes, Hope Springs Eternal that this is the right combination for this show. I'm really, I'm, I'm enthusiastic. I'm excited. Me too. And to the CGI point, yeah. I was just like maybe it's just a, to your, you know, the uncanny valley part, like,

maybe it's just something that we will very quickly, become accustomed to as we watch full episodes instead of two-minute trailers, you know, or see like gifts on Twitter. Yeah, I mean, I think an issue is, I think more than anything else, an issue is that she's in so many shots with Bruce. And they have had so much time and money to refine the Bruce Banner look. And they have a TV budget to make, you know, so like putting them side by side does not do her any favors, I think.

I was also, I was just working on a story about, like, there's also something to do with facial features. So, like, when Ed Norton was Hulk, his facial features were too, like, angular and delicate, so they did not map the Hulk's face onto Edward Norton's face at all, just because his features didn't map. But they were like, Mark Ruffalo, he's got the kind of face that we can sort of, like, scale, out and make him look the Hulk look like Mark Ruffalo. And I don't know if there's, you know, if like Tatiana Maslani's face in terms of that like

angular is very complicated and it has nothing to do with what you think it might have to do with. It has to do with a whole bunch of ones and zeros that we is like, you know, scrubs can't understand. Anyway, Marvel doesn't need me to like help sell their show. They've got a lot of budget to do that. But I don't know. I'm really excited for it.

We'll see. We'll see. You know what else I'm excited for the, to see how the breaking of the fourth wall works inside of the show? Because like we've gotten a taste of that a couple times in the trailers with the, you know, he doesn't mean that. And I'm not proud of this lookbacks to us, the audience. So I'm like, I'm just so eager to see what the volume of that is and how often that

is relied upon and how effective that is as a device. But yeah, can't wait. Okay. What's next for you? Are we on your number four? Yeah. You ready? Yeah.

I think. Okay. My number four comes out August 26th, and it is 3,000 years of longing, which is the new George Miller film written and directed by George Miller, who did Mad Max, Fierry Road, among other Mad Max films, right? And this is Idris Elba, Tilda Swinton, and Igerzellpa plays a gin. Tildes Swinton plays a woman who sort of like awakens this. Jin. And it is a, like, absolutely, if you have not seen the trailer or been stopped dead in the lobby of a movie theater by the poster, like, do yourself a solid and go watch this trailer because it is absolutely, like, the interaction between Tildeswin and Ujjjiselba, delightful in general. But the visuals of this, I have not seen anything that looks this spectacular since the fall, a movie that I absolutely love, starring the great and incredibly tall, Leipace.

And so, um, my favorite, as you know. So, um, yeah, Paul Hive is stronger than the dots Hive. Let's be clear, Steve. So, um, this looks just absolutely fantastical, incredible lush. Uh, I'm so excited. And like George Miller, incredible filmmaker. Uh, this is based on a short story, The Gin and the Nightingale's Eye by AS Buy by it, who is an author that I really love as well.

So there's just like, there's nothing. in the mix here that I am not excited about in terms of this. This is right exactly up my alley. And I know that it's not Marvel or Lucasfilm or DC or whatever. But I think that we're doing all things fandom. This is a fantasy of film. And I'm really, really excited for it. Oh, what a great pick.

I love it. Great one, Joe. So I just want to say before I share my pick that I knew before I opened to Google Doc what my top four picks were. would be. That was very clear to me. What I wasn't quite sure about was the order, though I did really know the one and two. I have gone back and forth a lot on the order of three and four. I'm torn because I'm so excited for all of these things. And honestly, like, in a less crowded season, anything that I have from four to one here would have been

number one. Truly and sincerely, right? So all of these are like, this is almost like one A, one B, one C, one D, because I'm just so, so, so excited for all these. I think my top four is definitely like a tier above everything else in my list in terms of my personal hype. Okay. Preamble dispense. Number four. Yeah. This is where I have Andor. Yeah. Okay. Joanne, I can't wait for the show. It looks so good. And you know it's wild. So I have, we haven't seen any of it, right? But I know. people who have seen it and they are and and I mean like really picky people people who have like really not liked recent Star Wars TV and they love it and they fucking loved it.

Hell yeah. Let's go. Oh my God. I'm so excited for this. Yeah. Oh boy. I usually when things move back, I get nervous or sad when Andor moved to September 21st instead of late August.

felt a surge of euphoria that was difficult to properly understand or explain. I'm just so happy that this is going to have a little bit of distance from the real glut and that, you know, this is going to run because it's 12 episodes, so they're doing a three episode premiere. It's going to feel like like a movie event, right? Which just feels appropriate. And this is going to run to Thanksgiving week. Like, we're going to be spending a lot of our fall with Cassie and Andor. And I am delighted. I'm so excited.

I think the first thing I texted you was like, this means you and I get to cover more of Andor than we previously thought we were going to get to. And that made us both really excited. Yes. I'm like a little, like the thing about this top, I think we have the same top four. And the thing, or I, four or five, the thing about these top things is that, like, I just want a clear deck to cover each and every one of them in my new detail. And the fact that we're covering all of them together at once is going to be, I think, I mean, we're still going to do an incredible job.

We're going to do our best. But like, I just want, I just want to like hold this one thing in my heart for several months. So, you know, the ringerverse is well equipped to cover the spread. We're all ready. We've got such a great team. But I'm so excited that you and I get to talk about Andor a little bit more than we thought we were going to get to. So me too. Also, I love the cover the spread phrasing. It makes it sound like we're a gambling podcast, you know. Yeah. I definitely know exactly what I'm talking about and exactly what I mean when I say that.

Oh, God. Yeah. I thought, so the snippet that we got to see, the trailer that came out from Star Wars Celebration, so fun. A very palpable increase in collective excitement, the wake of that. But this most recent trailer, the one that came out a few days ago, was unbelievable. Like, I've watched it no fewer than 50 times. I just keep watching it. I can't stop watching it.

And I'll watch it. It's not just that I watch it every couple days. I'll just sit and watch it like 10 times in a row. I just think it looks unbelievable. I loved Rogue One. That's one of my favorite Star Wars movies. And so, you know, in general, the idea of, of an and or show has always been exciting to me. I really love that, you know, speaking of that

genre variance, like getting the, the spy thriller, you know, a fulcrum hive assemble here. Like, I'm hyped about that. I really love this swath of the Star Wars timeline. Like the, and or not just the first season, in full, the two seasons will cover the five years leading up to Rogue One. So that's the Rebels timeline, right? And like, that's one of my, my favorite and I think the richest parts of the Star Wars tapestry. So I'm really just hyped to be back in that story zone. Love the cast. What a cast for this show.

We are back with our guy, Saw Guerrera, lies, deception, Borgollett. I'm thrilled. I mean, Joanna, Tony Gilroy's making a Star Wars show. This is amazing. Let's talk about a few things. Okay. So Tony Gilroy, so for folks who don't know,

like Tony Gilroy kind of took over Rogue One. He's not the credit director on that, but he did, like, massive reshoots. And so a lot of what you might love about Rogue One with no disrespect meant to Gareth Edwards, like is Tony Gilroy's work. So if you love Rogue One, this is great news for you that he is spearheading this. This was, as opposed to the previous Star Wars TV projects, this was not shot in the volume. So if you have been feeling as maybe we were a little bit in Obi-1, a little hemmed-in, like seeing some of the limitations of the volume,

this not a single scrap of volume was used here. I've been told that it takes place, it's one of those all over the place types of shows. So if you're like, oh, dear God, are we going to Tatooine? I don't know, we might, but like we're not staying there. So we're bouncing all over the place. So that's a huge, huge thing in its favor. Nicholas Brutel, who the icon behind the succession score, is the composer on this project.

So it looks amazing, incredible cast. As Mal mentioned, it's two seasons, so we're not even getting K2SO in this season. Like, Alan Tiddick, I mean, we might, I don't know. That's not a spoiler. I don't know. Maybe he shows up at the end. But they've been saying that he doesn't show up until season two. So that's how much story and runway that we're dealing with here is, like, I just assumed.

that this is going to be like a Diego Luna-Alunah Tudic two-hander. They're like, no, no, no. That's not even until season two, bud. We got a lot else to do. So I'm thrilled. I'm really excited for this. You know, famous last words, but like, I will be genuinely surprised if this is not really great. Genuinely surprised.

And sad. I mean, I think it's going to be great. We could always be wrong, but that's never happened before to us on a hype meter. so never will have it again. The thing I will say about Rogue One, I rewatched it recently because like Rogue One was a really interesting thing because I didn't love it as much

as like so many people I knew loved it. And I loved a lot of it. I thought it was visually beautiful. I loved the characters. I just got really frustrated by the CG resurrection of a couple characters. So the fact that I get the Rogue One vibe without any of that,

no digital Tarkin like makes me makes me really happy. So I'm really excited to this. And I liked Rogue One better this most recent time than I watched it. But I'm beyond thrilled to see Andor. So yeah. Wonderful. Okay.

Number three. I think we're going to have the same top three. Yeah. I know, I know we do. I think here's my prediction. I think we're going to have the same number three. And then I think our number one and two are going to be flipped.

That's my guess. I think that's also true. I think that's also true. Okay. So number three. And as Mallory said, as Mallory said, in any other season. This would be a clear number one.

But it is number three, Wakanda forever. And we've talked about this a lot already, specifically, that trailer out of Comic-Con and how overwhelming it was to watch it. I'm so excited for this. And Marvel is lucky. this is coming because not that their stock is that low but I think

you know to your earlier point on the Comic-Con episode that we did like ending the face I guess they get a little holiday epilogue but theoretically ending the face here with Wicconda forever allows them to go out on a theoretical high note

I just I have watched speaking of watching trailers 50 times I can't stop watching that trailer just songs forever changed by a trailer, forever emotional for me. So, yeah, Wakanda Forever November 11th. I'm really excited. November 11th, final film of face four.

Listen, check out the trailer chat that Joe just mentioned on the Comic-com pod, if you're having it, because we talked about it for quite a while on there. I mean, I just agree with everything you just said. One of the most gorgeous trailers that we have ever seen. I have returned to it so. many times. It's just such a beautiful ode to Chadwick

and to Chala. The visuals, the musical accompaniment, the grief, the purpose. It is just astonishing. I mean, you just mentioned the way that the songs really resonate and stick with you coming out of that trailer. Like, I can't stop thinking

about the lyric in this great future. You can't forget your past and how foundational that's going to be to this movie. I just think, it just feels like Ryan Cougler made something very, very special here. And I really, I cannot wait to see it. And again, on the comic comp, how we chatted about a lot of the specifics, you know, Riri Williams's introduction, Namor's official introduction, the Atlantis versus Wakanda, the possibilities of the comic parallels and the Secret War set up, all of that, of course. This just looks like it's going to be a sensational film. Can't wait.

All right. The moment of truth. Do we have? the same number two and number one undoubtedly do we have them in a different order we both think we do drum roll please joanna robinson what is your number two uh now is the time of the podcast where we talk about hubbits and dragons uh is that your update of me yeah i i'mickshade it's just dits and dragons yeah it's just hubbids and dragons um i got house of the dragon number two. Mallory, do you have that higher on your list? It'll stun you to hear that that's my number one. I have Lord of the Rings, the Rings of Power at number two. And I assumed that that would be your number one. And it sounds like it is. That's my number one. Yeah. Wonderful. Which one should we talk about first?

Well, and we decided this before we started. Like, we're not going to talk about these at length because guess what? We have a lot of podcasts already about these. And guess what? We've got preview podcasts to come about these. If you didn't already, know that we were excited about these? Like, where have you been? Trailer breakdowns. Plenty already there for you. And on the feed, we got preview pods coming. And then we're going to talk about both of these shows for just like literally hours every week. It's going to be great.

I'm so excited. So I guess actually more than talking about them individually because I think we've done that a lot. I'll just sort of justify not that I need to. You don't need to. Your hype is your hype. I know. Both of these are thrilling things. But you and I have talked about this a little bit, which is why you knew where my placement was.

Which is, it's not at all a knock on House of the Dragon because I'm so excited about House of the Dragon. It's just, you and I have podcasts about Thrones for so long, and that's part of why we're so excited. So, like, we've done this for so long. We've never done it together. We're so excited to do it together. I could not be more of getting excited to talk about House of the Dragon with you. And also with David Neal over on trial by content, which is something that we announced this week. So, like, The Storm of Spoilers Crew is going to be back together over on trial by content.

We've got other announcements coming. Like, there's going to be so much fun coverage of that show. Rings of Power is tapping into, like, a deeper nostalgia vein that I haven't had as much opportunity to live in. Because as you and I have mentioned many times, you and I rewatch the films every year, obviously. extended editions. What are you doing with your life? You're not watching the extended edition. There's this moment.

One of my favorite moments in all of Lord of the Rings is in the extended edition, when Arwen first encounters Eragorn in the forest. And she goes, what's this? A ranger caught off his god. And it hurts my feelings that people who don't watch the extended edition don't get to see that. But anyway, like, we love the books. We love the movies.

But, like, this is something that I've, like, shared with some. some of my close friends here, or you and I will talk about it. I'll talk to Dave Gonzalez about it, who reads, reads the books every year, like, all sort of stuff. But I haven't gotten to do, like, a widespread celebration of Tolkien in a while. And certainly not since I've been, like, doing this professionally. I think, like, The Hobbit movies were, like, right before I started, basically. And so it's, that's why I'm so hyped for this.

And, you know, as I've mentioned, I've seen a few episodes. I was not disappointed. I was thrilled. A lot of other people who are really skeptical have seen some things and are excited. So, like, I'm just, I'm excited. I hope people really like this show. I really like it and I want to talk about it. So that's where I am.

Oh, Joe. I don't know. That was beautiful. I feel the same way. I was, I was thinking, I was chatting with my dad this past weekend. It was August 7th, my dad's birthday and my stepmom's birthday. Oh, wow. Back there.

And so I was chatting with my dad. And Lord of the Rings is like the foundational part of his life as a reader, one of his favorite stories of all time, one of the first stories that he introduced me to, one of the first stories that I fell in love with when I was a kid, or The Hobbit for the first time in fifth grade. Like, we'll talk about all of this more, but it is a really like central story in my life.

And I was thinking about exactly what you just said. Like I have, I have this unbelievable level of anticipation and appreciation for the fact that we get this whole new thing, right? We get to spend time in the second age and see these nuggets and little kernels from, you know, this or that appendix fleshed out into this whole vibrant tale. But it's not just a thing that we experience alone. We get to share it together. And like what a really truly thrilling and beautiful thing. I am so, so, so looking forward to this. September 2nd, it is just around the corner. Eight episodes, Amazon Prime. We are going to be covering it every week for you here on the House of are and we can not wait. I'm just, I'm really like, I get like emotional and overwhelm thinking

about it. It just feels like a real gift. I'm so excited. I'm like, again, again, as we said before, this will not diminish our coverage. We're going to go all in on both of these. I'm just going to be like under a pile of books for a couple months. What a better place to be. I can't imagine. But like, I wish that I had just space to cover rings of power and just space to cover or House of the Dragon. But the flip side of that is how fucking lucky are we that we get these two incredible shows to just like live in for a while back to back. This is, you know, this is Amazon and HBO's little like, you know, tug-a-war fight.

And we're, you know, but as I've mentioned before, we're a kid that gets two holidays. So, boy, here we go. And the holidays are happening at the same time. What a bounty. Is there anything else on House of the Dragon that you want to mention? I don't think so. we really have talked about it a lot. We have.

We have. And we're going to talk about it a lot more because this show starts on August 21st, which is next week. I've heard you make so many noises and I've never heard you ever make that noise in all the years that I've known you. I can pretend that that was my dragon impression, but that's really just a very, like, real sound that my body has just made. I've heard you like, I've heard you like screech and squeal in so many different flavors. But truly that was like a dragon cry. Yeah. That was a new one.

That was a new one. I'll, you know, we'll talk about this more on the preview power we're doing next week. I will just say, yes, it's my number one. Of course, it's my number one. And a lot of that is about how excited I am for this particular show. I think the Dance of the Dragons, the Targaryen War Succession is a very rich storytelling text. And I'm really, really, really hyped that we get to see this show. More broadly, though, I.

am really, like, so happy to be back in Westrose. I am. I really missed it. Like, doing my rewatch right now, rereading Fire and Blood, getting to talk about this with you, knowing we're going to get to cover the show together, sharing another throne's story with all of these people who loved this thing so much before and hopefully recapturing that magic and that community again. Like I always mention this quote because it really is one of my favorites, but like I can't, I can't not think about it in moments like this. Like I just find myself gravitating toward that moment with old Nan and Bran when she says stories wait, my little lord. And when you come back to them, why? There they are.

And like, it's here for us again, Joe. And that's amazing. I'm about to cry. Wow. That's not really like, my beautiful sweet summer children. The thing that I've been experienced ever. the last couple weeks that I really loved is like also a connection with so there's there's what you and I can share. There's what we can share with our listeners. But there's also this whole

broader community of fans and people who cover thrones that like we've all, you and I have met at various conventions and like that I feel a real affinity with that, you know, we got to see at the when we went to the premiere, we got to see a couple of them at the premiere party. And, and, and just like, Having an excuse to talk like bullshit with some of my pals on Twitter about like the latest quotes or trailer snippets or whatever. Like just having that that water cooler to gather around again. He's really exciting for me to all my, you know, pals who run other podcasts or run other websites or run or run the subreddit or whatever.

And so I mean, that I didn't anticipate being so meaningful to me. It just feels like all our pals are back together again. I know. It's really nice. I'm emotional. It's unsurprising that the tears are coming. Oh, boy. Can you please do that dragon screech again when we're like talking about all the dragons on the show? I'll try. I don't know if I'll ever be able to channel that again, but here's the thing about podcast. Steve has that sound bite forever now. Steve, that's our new like dragon soundboard. Oh my God. Incredible stuff. The Mallory screech. Wow. That was really, oh, boy, that was something. That's why I stay well hydrated on these recordings, you know, so that I'm ready. That came down from, like, all the way from your, like, coxic, like, all the way up your body. Oh, God.

Okay. We've shared our top tens. We've shared the hype. Yeah. Before we leave, honorable mentions, anything else, whether it's something you also are genuinely, personally very hyped for, or just something else that is happening, that you would, like, like to mention. Anything else on your honorable mentions list here? Yeah, I got two. One is the return of mythic quest, which is only sort of like tangentially ring or verse, but like I love that

show. Season three on Apple. That's just a show that that is like, you know, it's, if you haven't seen it, it's set at a video game company and it's a really fun like workplace comedy show led by Rob McElheny of its, it's always sunny fame. But then the, And they like, will pause and have these incredibly, like, profound one or two one-off episodes in the middle of a season. You're like, oh, my God, am I watching art? High art. So it's got all the things you could possibly want together in a show.

So Mythic Quest Season 3, big fan coming back. And then it's not October on Netflix without Mr. Mike Flanagan, who has done the haunting of Hillhouse, haunting a blind manor. And last year he did Midnight Mass, which is. really, really loved. And this year, he's doing something called the Midnight Club. This is like a more of a YA thing, and it looks a bit like the old Nickelodeonian show, Are You Afraid of the Dark?

It's about a group of teens who are, you know, they are terminally ill patients, and they gather together to tell each other scary stories at night, and they make a pact that, like, if one of them dies first, they will connect from the beyond with, like, the original kids. Very spooky. Fun casting in this is that Heather Langencamp from the original Freddie Krueger movies is playing sort of, I think, the doctor at this institute. So, yeah, I'm Mike Flanagan. Mike Flanagan, Netflix Halloween has never once disappointed me. So I'm hoping this will be a four-peat for him.

How about you? Were you a big? Were you a big? Are you afraid of the dark kid? I was scared of Are You Friend of Dark? I mean, I think if I watched it now, I wouldn't be. I just have a distinct memory of babysitting some kid and this kid I was babysitting wanted to watch Are You Fray of the Dark? And I was like, are you sure?

Like, do you not want to watch? I used to pretty regularly watch it, even though it terrified me. Absolutely terrified me. But for some reason, I still, I powered through. It's one of the shows I would watch after school with a, I would make myself two cans of soup in a very large Tupperware. One of my favorite snacks. Watch, okay, watch TV.

Rewind, hard rewind. Yeah. What kind of soup? Like Campbell's chicken nudes? My favorite was, you know, the, the, it was Campbell's, the alphabet chicken soup. Yeah. I loved that. For some reason...

I was a chicken and stars, man. I love chicken and stars, too. For some reason, in addition to enjoying, like, the letters and everything, there were peas in that version of the soup, which normally I would not have liked, but I always thought were so delicious. And so this are like... These are like the little cans of candles, right?

Well, but then you're supposed to fill out of the can with water, so it's the same size as like a... But it's the same volume, ultimately, is like a progresso can. Yeah. So she's taken down two progresso cans. I would have the biggest afternoon snacks. And once I was in high school and like we could drive, we would, I mean, boy, you couldn't keep me out of like the neighborhood Panera.

Get a you pick two at 3.30. I just have a really, like a really important question for our listeners, which is when you were a kid, did you consider soup? That's mentioned double barrel cans of soup, a delightful snack? Is that of the after? Because I was expecting you were like, I got my high sea or my like ectocooler. I was a Capri Sun kid. Loved Capri Sun. Yeah.

Or Sunny D. Delicious. Loved sunny delight. You know, I've never had Sunny D. And I know. I know. Oh my God. We have to find some.

Those commercials as a kid. Like there was a lot of weird things I didn't have as a kid. This is like when I blew Ben Lindbergs by the other day on the Better Call Saul podcast. telling me I've never had a Cineabon. I've since had a Cinevon, but I had never had one. But here's the thing about Cineabon. Delicious. It's pretty good. But the Sunny D commercials were so like, you're not an American kid if you don't have Sunny D.

And I was like, Mom, and she's like, no, water sounds good. Like we were not a, we were not a flavor. We drank a lot of milk and water in my household. We were not Amish, but we drank a lot of milk and water. No, no soda, no juice. I was just guzzling Sunny D and A&W root beers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just obsessed with the idea that Malie Riven came home to two cans of soup.

And are you afraid of the dark? I would also have other snacks. Like, I loved string cheese and dunkeroo's. Yeah, let's talk about how string cheese and dunkeroo's are super normal snacks. and two cans of soup. But like when you pair all of that, and it's like a wonderful way to pass 15 minutes, you know?

Delightful feast. A delightful feast. My favorite after school was Sailor Moon. Sailor Moon after school. Interesting. Are you a Sailor moon watcher? No.

No. Just wasn't a part of my life. Sadly. Maybe it's not too late. Maybe I'll get some Dunkeroo's and Sunny D and boot up Sailor Moon. let me introduce you to someone named Tuxedo Mask and then we can talk about it.

Okay. What are your honorable mentions? So, okay, before we started recording, I mentioned that at that time, five minutes prior, I had slacked Arjuna in a fit of panic and said, I forgot about Thing X. I forgot this was coming out in the time zone in question. wondered should I adjust my list

and then decided that if I was being honest with myself with you my beloved co-host and with our listeners, this is where I would have gone anyway. I'm really panicked because it's not even, not only is it not even on my list, but it's not even in my honorable mentions.

So what the fuck did I miss? Avatar, too, the way of water. I just forgot. No, I didn't forget. That's what I said to you. I said, I don't think you forgot about it. Danny kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet. I kind of forgot about the way of water.

This is coming out, December 16th. So this is like pretty soon. And, you know, it's not in my top 10. That's okay. It is a thing that feels just worth like mentioning that is on the horizon. Yeah. And, you know, curious to see it. Maybe it'll be amazing.

Definitely could be. I think it absolutely could be. Yeah. But, yep, we'll see. We've talked about this before. I have no love for the first one, so we'll see how I feel about the second. But it is coming, and I'm so glad that you mentioned it so that people didn't say you kind of forgot about Avatar. Yeah, no.

We, you know, I'm excited for the return to the expanded Avatar universe and, you know, to see. to see the tail fucking again, you know. Remember? What else is on the honorable mention list here? Do you remember on Monday how we talked about I fucking the Corinthian and now you're talking about tail fucking Sam Worthington? You were looking down for a second there and you didn't see what I was doing with my hands. So it's, you're a loss.

I also just wanted to mention because round these. parts we love. We love a convention. D23. Hiped about D23. Really excited for what announcements await mere weeks from now at D23. Also excited for New York Comic-Con. Love a con, you know, love to get some updates on the slate, love to get some sneak peeks, love to hear what content we'll be covering in the months and years to come. So wanted to mention that. And then Tales of the Jedi. This does not have a fixed date, though it is, I think, supposed to be 2002.

And I would be remiss if I did not mention it because an animated anthology series from Dave Filoni that focuses on prequel timeline characters, including Asoka, just couldn't end the pod. I feel like you're going to be watching that. I feel like you're going to be watching that, Valerie. Yeah, I think I'll find a way to carve out the time. You might check it out. Yeah.

There are also just a lot of other things coming in the, you know, nerd verse that just wanted to note are coming. So things that I personally am behind on, but one day intend to catch up on like Rick and Morty, an adored show, loved by many. Cobra Kai's coming back. That's exciting. Is that, yeah, I guess, like, I was debating whether or not that counted as my reverse. That to me is, like, part of the, you know, like, of a piece with, like, the fast saga, you know?

Okay. It's like. I thought it was going to be like, of a piece. advantage when I are old and have 80s nostalgia coursing through their veins. Oh, God. I wanted to ask you if you're excited for the Quantum Leap reboot because you're a big quantum leap head. Thank you know how much I love Quantum Leap.

But I love Quantum Leap so much that I am quite worried about this. I thought that might be the case. I thought that might be the case. Also a small little little scene show called The Walk Dead is concluding, which we should probably note. The Walking Dead ever heard of it. Never heard of it. And then I swear, this is not a joke.

Arjuna wanted me to mention when I slacked about Avatar and then panicked, is there anything else? I'm forgetting that C is on this fall again. I did see that C was on, but I have not seen a single episode of C. So I skipped it. Have you seen C? Oh, I've never watched it in my life. Wow.

Okay. But it is a popular Apple TV show. It is popular. It's just Jason Momoa's mom and, you know, Zoe Kravitz watching that show, I guess. I love it. What about Lower Dex? That's coming back. That's a show that exists.

Argentina, you love Lower Dex. I do. I do love Lower Dex. Very excited. Or Decks House, but I'm just behind. There's so much TV. I can't keep up on everything. But I know that this is beloved.

Great show. One of the best Star Trek's on television right now. Would you put it? Is it like number two? Would you put it number two? I'll put it number two. And Strange New World's number one? Yeah, for sure.

That sounds right. Steve? I'm honestly just really hyped for the usage that I can get out of that soundbite from Mallory. That's my entire list. Oh, boy. All right. Well, this was fun. It was like an eaglet fucked a dragon is sort of like what that sounded like. During or after. Oh, my God. Wow. Thank you. Honestly.

I'm really proud of you. All right. We've done it. We've reached the end of the hype meter. And what hype there is. My goodness. There's a lot to look forward to. It's going to be a fun fall. And here at the Ring of Reverse, fall is also late summer. early winter. While I was studying, while I was like sort of reading up on what was coming for this, I pre-ordered like five books. So I definitely just did it to myself. Here we go. Content never sleeps, you know?

All right. We consider the matter urgent. That of this podcast concluding. So thank you to our dragon lords, Steve Allman, for producing this episode. Arjuna Ram Gapal for his additional production work on this episode. and Jomea Denneron for his work on the social for this episode. Head back into the ringerverse next week for She-Hulk,

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