The Ringer-Verse - 'Ahsoka’ Episode 7 Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

The Midnight Boys are back to give you the rundown from the penultimate episode of 'Ahsoka' (04:39). They talk about the reunion of Sabine and Ezra and how they get themselves into a tough situation, ...as well as the pursuit of Ahsoka through dangerous space at the hands of Thrawn. Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Steve Ahlman, and Jomi Adeniran Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh, men, boys, we hate women. Can we? Okay, okay. All right, all right, we will. We will. The House of R will be giving you their deep dive on Assoca.
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Starting point is 00:05:31 Look out for our instant reaction soon. It's coming soon. Loki is coming soon. Okay. On today's show, though, we are talking about episode seven of Asoka. Dreams and Madness. I thought that Mick Mills about to start.
Starting point is 00:05:46 here's the deal. We're going to spoil everything. Everything that has to do with Star Wars up to this point. The prequel trilogy, Rebels, Clone Wars, any of the legend canon books, any of the non-conson, canon books, any of the throne, non-canon books, all the stuff could be spoiled here.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Potentially Steve, run the warning. We're getting ready to talk about Asoka. You're listening to a reaction. to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. All right, to begin our reactions, as always, we have to put you in the need to know.
Starting point is 00:06:28 The only person who can do that who's capable of doing that is Chuck Wagon with the Midnight Manifest. Chuck, take it away. This is your Midnight Manifest for episode seven of Asoka, Dreams and Madness, directed by Gita Patel, written by Dave Filoni. At the last minute,
Starting point is 00:06:45 hair is saved from being court-martial by a message from Senator Organa, delivered by C3PO. Inside the Perl's mouth, Asoka trains with Anakin Skywalker hologram before arriving in Purdya's orbit. Unfortunately, the pergles are straight into an imperial space minefield. As the space whales fly away to safety, Asoka and Huang are ambushed by enemy ships and escape inside of an asteroid belt.
Starting point is 00:07:06 On Peridia, Sabine continues to avoid telling Ezra how she got to him, while Balin sends Shin off to fight Ezra and Sabine. Asoka uses the force to locate her former Padawan and narrowly escapes from Thrawn's forces in the process. By the time Asoka lands, she intercepts Baylan for a short duel. Meanwhile, Ezra and Sabine fight against the Raiders, night troopers can shin. Eventually, Theronra calls his forces once it's clear. Asoca, Ezra, and Sabine have the upper hand.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Assoca lets Shin escape, even though the trio could easily overpower her. And instead of getting mad at Sabine, Asoka and Ezra finally just have the emotional reunion we've been waiting so long for. And that has been your Midnight Manifest for Episode 7 of Asoka. All right. Instant reactions to dreams and madness. Duck Wagon, starting with you. What did we like?
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm glad that we live in a world where people can try things. Oh, boy. What, it was. I'm really, I'm just glad that people have opportunities to just, to go for it. Damn. Charles, what do you like about the episodes, bro? What did we like? Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:20 All right. I mean, I did think it was very, I did think that Ezra not needing a lightsaber and being like the forces with me, bitch, was very cool. Like, I just like, I like that a lot. And that is where it ends. Wow. Okay. So I, unlike my esteemed colleague, seems like that, I thought there was a lot to like. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Let's talk about it. Okay. First of all, here it changed to brown pants, went away that, you know, that, you know, that. was working. Whoa, when they did the wide pan out shot, that was the, okay, because here's the thing, because you know what happens? Seriously, because,
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm not saying, no, hold on, for a second. Hold on for a second. Hold on for a second. Hold on for a second. Because you know what happens?
Starting point is 00:09:09 What happens is we end up taking the criticism for just making observations about things that are clearly in the show. You know what I mean? So like we end up, So I'm not going to do that. I'm not playing that game.
Starting point is 00:09:22 You know what I mean? I'm not playing that game with you guys. If something's in the show, we're going to talk about it. Okay? And we all know what's going. The show is not being subtle anymore about it. Like now it's getting on my nerves. Now I'm like, y'all know what you.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Okay, so I was just one episode ahead of you. That's all. I didn't even, I didn't even notice that part. Yeah, whatever. The liar. I'm not even, I'm not even, I'm not getting here, Joe. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I did. I did. I did it. But I thought a lot of things worked. Number one, I thought that the show gave us a little depth. Cool cameo. My C3PO agenda continues.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Okay. Don't act like you didn't get a little bit of the feels when you saw 3PO walking. Kangaroo court. It was a fucking kangaroo court. Listen, somebody couldn't be there for understandable reasons. I also thought something else. I thought Thron rounded into his character because we got a little bit more of him in this episode. I thought we got to see and feel Thrawn a little bit.
Starting point is 00:10:20 bit more. I know there were some talk here and other places, some of it good nature, some of actually substantive about how the character was being portrayed. And I really thought in this episode, I felt throny. It was throny. And the show is doing a great job, in my opinion, and it continued in episode seven of balancing the mystery of different people's and different characters' motivations with also some realizations. on the show. I think Star Wars works best when there's this grand plan and mission,
Starting point is 00:10:56 but there are these little bitty missions that get accomplished almost in every single scene by our heroes, and they use their guile, different powers, and all kinds of stuff. You got some good space fights, some good ground fights, all of it. I thought it was good. A little bit of a breath
Starting point is 00:11:12 catcher. Catch your breath just a little bit. I think this show did. And then get us on into the finale. But I loved it. I think Asoka is a great show. I'm having a lot of fun. Mint people. Ha ha,
Starting point is 00:11:25 look at that. What did you guys think? Man, I like this week's episode. I agree. It was definitely one where we slow things down. You know, we just,
Starting point is 00:11:35 we brought people together to set up the finale. But I really enjoyed it. The Thron stuff I liked because, like I was saying last week, you know, at some point they're going to have to, I liked his look or whatever, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But at some point, they're going to establish, you know, why he's such a threat. I thought this episode did a pretty good job of showing how, like, you know, calculating and how just, you know, smart he is and thinking about, okay, if she's, uh, Anakin Skywalker's Patawan, then here's how we move it. You know what I mean? And just how intelligent and cunning he is. I thought that was really good.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And yeah, just seeing other characters reunite. And I think, I wish it would have got more of, uh, Baylans like motivations. But other than that, I thought it was a. really solid episode. And I really, I really think like, yeah, Soca is turning, turning up and, man, finale is going to be something. I enjoy this as well.
Starting point is 00:12:29 While I am still bumping on the overall look of Thrawn, I don't, I don't really, I'm not really, I'm not really digging how that how that looks. Joanna Robinson's wig watch is in full effect. I really did enjoy Thrawn
Starting point is 00:12:45 in his element in this episode. I think this is actually the thing that I would have wanted to see as far as him playing the chessboard and actually seeing how his mind works and what actually is so threatening about him and so interesting about him as a villain. I've really enjoyed Lars Mikkelson's portrayal with that. That being said, I think at the beginning of this episode, I was
Starting point is 00:13:12 kind of weirded out, at least with the seemingly court-martial scene with Tara because of the fact that like it felt seemingly adjacent to what's going on in the present moment with this episode. I mean, obviously it's going to be, you know, coming up later, hopefully for our finale. But I kept thinking about like how disappointed I am in Mon Mothma, especially like outside of like her origins seemingly in Andor and then coming out of the New Republic being just like kind of a lame duck senator and just being like, okay. Well, Hara, we're just going to court martial you and go by the procedure. And I'm like, man, I'm on Mothma, fall from grace. Let's talk about this for a second. Because I thought about this and I did a little deep diving research into war heroes that end up in government.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Because this is something that obviously comes from the real world. We know this, right? Dwight Eisenhower, General becomes president, George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant. And when you look at these guys, because there's only been guys to this point, unfortunately, we haven't had the foresight in the good sense to elect a woman
Starting point is 00:14:28 into the highest office of the land. Because after this episode, there is a period of adjustment where these people who fought in these huge conflicts to where they had this unilateral authority, at least on the battlefield, had to acquaint themselves with the procedures of government and the limitations of government, particularly if you're like a wartime, like person, you have to get used to having government intervention, having government tell you what it is that you can do.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And I think this is interesting when you're looking at both Ma'amah's character and when you're looking at Harris' character. Obviously, Ma'amathma had been involved in stuff prior to this, but she essentially became like an insurgent or a rebellion leader, but she was fighting for them, but she was fighting for the rebels. Now that she is in charge, there are probably rules and procedures and different constitutional things that she has adhered to that she doesn't want to, and she's probably trying to impart that on to Harrow.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So when I'm looking at all of this stuff, I'm like, yeah, us as the viewing public, we have to feel a certain way and a certain kinship to what Hara's doing. But at the same time, she can't just do whatever she want, right? She's got to make it make sense in some sort of way, which is where Lai and 3PO came in. I mean, I get what you're saying, Van. I did bump up against the whole court-martial scene. because the one guy's like, Imperial Remnant, there's none.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And I'm just like, all right, wait, guys, come on. Like, I've watched, we've watched this. You know, that's why, what's his face from Kim's convenience is like, what about on Mandalor? And they also, wasn't it just like news on Corrassant that a bunch of former Imperials
Starting point is 00:16:35 try to steal a bunch of fucking shit to restart close? Like, there is a level of I'm getting, like, guys, what are we doing here? Mon Motham was supposed to be way smarter than this. I get it. And the call's kind of coming in from inside the house with that senator being like, all right, we know who side you're on, buddy. You're just doing this what aboutism that everybody else is talking about. Well, what about the mission that you failed? We're not here to talk about
Starting point is 00:16:59 the empire surgery, which does not exist. Like, yeah, it's really, he's just being a dickhead, you know, like, this is what it is. This is like, nah, these are all isolated incidents, you know, they're not connected, right? And anybody would have a brain and can, like, pointed together. You know, it's kind of like real politicians. You know what I mean? Like, this isn't higher learning. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:19 We're not out of your arguing with Larry Elder. You feel me? I'm out of time. But is there a possibility that this guy has some sort of agent, that he's an imperial sympathizer? Because he seems so incompetent to the point to where he's not even, he's trying to impede her from getting the shit done that she knows that she needs to do. And he doesn't seem to have, at least Mon Mothma understands that there are rules that
Starting point is 00:17:44 need to be followed, but that also you probably need to lean on here to understand some things about the way stuff was working out there in a while while was to the galaxy that maybe you don't know about. This guy's a fucking dick face. I know, but I feel like if anybody should
Starting point is 00:18:00 understand that, it's Mon Mothema to be like, man, I was funneling money through like X, Y, Z slush accounts when these senators didn't know what the fuck was going on. Yeah. I was trying to get rid of this empire. Like, yeah, but to advance point, like, she's got to like start she got to lay down the law you know what I mean like it's a new
Starting point is 00:18:17 republic you got there's got their rules you know I mean and to keep this new republic from faltering obviously no it doesn't work but in this moment she's like I got to do what I got to do you know to uphold this new republic which means following the rules to you can't be out there to hold the care to get them exactly back where they were a couple fucking years ago look yeah I'm not I also will say if I ever get court-martialed I don't want any of y'all send in C3PO because I was like, dog, like, he had on his goodness. He had a bit of haters.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He fucking got mission accomplishment. He, I'm, I'm, you know what? It was shaky. It was, fucking, I, like, I would have, I would have just, I would have preferred R2D2. I think R2D2 would have put a little sass. There would have been a little less hemming and awing about that shit. Let me tell you guys right now. Let me tell you guys right now.
Starting point is 00:19:06 The slander has to stop. C3BO is whack. I don't care. You could have wanted to drive. It's fine. He's whack. No, I coulda. I did.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Okay. With C3Pio is my main character. You know who I'm going? You know what I'm going as for Halloween this year? C3PO, baby. I'm going to be a big fucking fat three C3PO. C-Tidio is what I'm going to be with the tities popping out the top of the thing. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm sick of you guys hating on 3PO. That's a terrible mental image, by the way. did his job, came through with Leah, gave the fake info, got Hera out of the situation, and you still talk about you wanted R2. Chopper was about to blow the whole place up. Chopper was sounding up. You know he was making a scene there.
Starting point is 00:19:56 The senator was mad racist. He's like, yo, fuck these droids. I hate me some droids. And Chopper was like, hold me back. Somebody hold me back. Okay. Now, they gave us little bits and pieces of Hera in her backstory. You know, giving us little bits and pieces of it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 It seems like at times it's shoe-horned in. And I guess that's not entirely fair to say before the finale, because we'll see how the finale wraps that entire thing up. You know, how that whole, how her whole thread gets wrapped up. But sometimes it does feel like they're taking a breather with this, there are the storytelling with what's going on with hera and the new republic anybody or or am i just thinking at my head we have one episode left y'all you keep you guys keep being like this is a breather episode i'm like you need a breather way earlier than this this is the pen
Starting point is 00:20:55 ultimate episode like this hara shit all that shit i was just like dog what are we doing i kept checking my fucking tv be like yo get to the good shit ezra is fucking here why are we fucking in this Marshall with C3PO of all fucking people. You know why, Charles? Because you're just like everybody else in L.A. You can't stop writing. There's more people that are writing right now than ever before. You're basically one of these.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I want, you know what, all the writers have come back and shout out to all of my friends. Oh, shout out for them. Shout out to all the wrong. I want you to take a lot. strike. Get away from here. Let them tell their story. All right.
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Starting point is 00:22:25 I did a little show writing of my own in this episode. There we go. It's just true. It's just a fact. You know what? Before we talk about Ezra, I want to ask a bigger question
Starting point is 00:22:38 because there's somebody we haven't talked about yet. Asoka. Could be beneficial to do that. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And so I want to discuss that. Is this still Asoka's show? No. It's not even Osoka and Friends.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It is Friends and Asoka. There's not a lot of game left again. We've still got to find out of episode. I think we've seen for a lot of thing about it, Charles. We've a lot of growth from Asoka from episode one to now. But we haven't seen her for two episodes, essentially. Like she's in this one more than last. one, but I am a little worried. I'm like, yo,
Starting point is 00:23:18 Asoka, where is you? What is you doing? I'm still curious about what the growth of Asoka the White is, exactly. And I think that's what the finale is going to show us, right? Like, what's between her in the, you know, in the grain. The White was struggling with a geriatric ass old Jedi. Now, Baylon's, Bailen, come on, man. Respect Bailin. Come on. Respect, Bailin. Everybody likes Bailin here. That's crazy disrespect. I'm like, yo, you're supposed to come back like fucking super saying.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like, yo, let's get busy. And she's struggling with this man. First of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, respect, Bailen. Second of all, she, mission got accomplished, right? She's like, you know, she was like, she had, she had sheen dead to rights. And I was just like, y'all just going to let her run away? What part of the fucking game is this?
Starting point is 00:24:08 See, you write in this shit, bro. She didn't want to kill shit. She was, she was like, brother. She was like, hey, let's come talk and we can talk. She didn't want to talk. Cool. I'm going to keep it pushing. I got my own things to do.
Starting point is 00:24:18 So you're going to let her run away, though? You don't want to kill like a Padawan. Yeah, like that's not really the problem. Like, Asoka could handle that if she really needed to. Whoa. I mean, you can't take her, like, weapon away and, like, put some, like, cuffs on her and be like. You want to nerfer? Like, I just don't want her showing up at the end and, like, fucking dividing the forces.
Starting point is 00:24:39 There's only three of y'all. Y'all caping now. I'm not cap and look. The fucking shacks have weird. Wait, wait. I ask, I ask the question. I do think that we're, that Osoka has
Starting point is 00:24:57 kind of been extracted out of her own narrative a little bit. I think that's fair to say. Now, we check back in with Asoka and who yank in this episode. And we get her calling out through the force to Sabine. We get her navigating
Starting point is 00:25:14 the remains of the pergol and space. We've got a lot of things that are so concentric that are cool, but it seems like the more story heavy elements of this episode, the more story-rich elements of this episode
Starting point is 00:25:30 have to do with Thron, Sabine, and Ezra. Would you also say Baylon gets a little bit like pushed to the side? Because even I was like, after last episode, I'm like, oh, Bailen has some type of plan, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:25:47 And in this episode, it kind of seemed like he was just there to fight with Assoca. I think Bailen is the wasabi of the show. Like, you don't need very much for it to be effective. But I don't know what he wants yet. And we only have one episode left. But what Bailen wants to me is a crucial thread in the show that I would expect for them to carry towards the, to the end of the show. I would expect to learn exactly who and what Baylon is as close to the end of the show as possible.
Starting point is 00:26:21 What I did think that was going to happen in this episode is I thought that Ezra would get a lightsaber and get busy. And they said, fuck that. I know you were mad, Charles. It, strategically, strategically speaking, it did not make a whole lot of sense because I'm like, Sabine's barely using that shit. It did. It actually kind of did make sense.
Starting point is 00:26:41 The more I think about it, because when I was, Like, I'll be honest. And when I was watching it, immediately my first thought was, why give him to rock, bro? What are you doing? You know, like, this is crunch time. Give it, best player to rock. You feel me? Give it to Braun.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Give it a mic. Give it to Kobe. You know what I'm saying? But the more I think about it, he's been out of practice for 10 years. You know what I'm saying? Sabine has, you know, not great with it, but she's probably, she's more in practice than Ezra is. So it kind of does make sense.
Starting point is 00:27:11 We saw in, if you look closely, when. When Assoc's training, she puts the Anakin file down. You can see, like, she got a couple of sabres in the ship, you know what I mean? So, hey, you know, just come up, grab one of those. She might be all right. But, yeah, I think it's fine that he didn't rock with the saber. He's been out of practice for 10 years. I mean, Ezra did look at Sabine crazy, though, when he's like, yeah, Asok is trading me.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He was like, oh, word? How did you hook that up? No, he said, no, he said, why or something like that? he was like, why? He don't. And then he was just like trying to be nice about it. Like, oh yeah, you're trying to be like back then when I was learning.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Wins in a fight. Ezra without a lightsaber or cheer it from Rogue One? Oh, I have no clue. I don't know what the fuck. Luther. I mean, Ezra did his thing. No saber against shin.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You know what I mean? And I, and here's the thing. I took that as, I took him rejecting the lightsaber twofold. One, he has faith in Sabine that actually is kind of touching and nice. Second of all, it's more of the fact that he doesn't need it at that point, and she needs it more than him. Well, the only problem with that is that she was armed
Starting point is 00:28:27 and he wasn't, right? So that scene, not to get into what I thought the scene was, but that scene could still make sense if she's got two blasters, that he's got a lightsaber. Right? because he does commandeer somebody's blaster, he does end up using a weapon in the scene, right? He ends up commandeering somebody's blaster
Starting point is 00:28:47 later on in the scene and then using it. There has to be some other reason why he doesn't want to take the lightsaber. And I'm interested in that. The fact that he wasn't just like, I don't want it, the fact that he was adamant about it. He said, no, the force is my ally, as if there's a part of the general. tradition, which the
Starting point is 00:29:12 lightsaber is almost the greatest symbol of that he's rejected. It was really interesting to me. Man, I don't think it was that deep. He was just like, I gave it to you. It's yours. Keep it. But I read it more so. Like, he's like either he has trained to such
Starting point is 00:29:28 an extent where he is like symbolically to Van's point. He's like there's something about the saber that either I don't need anymore or I don't want. Like it was very much a, the last time we saw, Ezra, he would have fucking taken the lightsaber. I know, but that was 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:29:44 But you guys, theoretically, she's not asking to, like, give him the lightsaber so that he can have it. For the purposes of the fight, we've seen people pick up other people's lightsabers and fight with them before, right? It's not like, hey, I want to give this back to you. She said, she's got too good. She's like, hey, here, do your thing. He's like, no, I gave it to you.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And then when she says, you're not, no weapon. He goes, the force is my ally. So in the forces my The force is every Jedi's ally And then they also have the fucking lightsaber too So if you if you think about it He's spent more time without a lightsaber Than with a lightsaber
Starting point is 00:30:22 So he's probably used to not having that weapon So when she's like I'm like bro need that I've gone past that It's been 10 years I don't eat that I'll be using it without the I'll be using I've been used I've been without a light saber For how long I don't eat that I see I see how you just came around
Starting point is 00:30:37 So how we were looking at it Because what we said is there's more to it than just saying, hey, I don't want to see how you just came around. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. He didn't even, he didn't even use it against Shin. That was when, that was the point where I was like, I think he either thinks he's better without it or he thinks that like there is something about the lightsaber that he does not need anymore or does not necessarily connect to his newfound system. I think he will probably get a lightsaber by the end of this. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Do you think Hugh Yang You think Hugh Yang builds him one On the ship? Maybe. Asso got an extra. Like here.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah, Osso can give him one. Yeah. You take a crystal out of Assoca. It was also, I will say, I was a little disappointed in Asoka because she was letting, like, Coach Anakin, like, really psych her up. It's shit.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And when she went out there, I'm like, you're not really getting busy. Like, Anthony would have. I thought that was a little unnecessary, personally. I'm like, not to say that like we always, I always love to see Hayden. Would like, happy to do that. But I'm like, okay, she doesn't need to psych herself up.
Starting point is 00:31:47 That one was a little bit weird. That part was a little. I was like, I'm pretty sure the entire Anakin episode was psyching you up for the rest of your whole adventure and life. Hold on for a second. Real quick. Somebody calling me. Somebody call me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Oh, okay, cool. Oh, that was Hayden Christensen. He said, fuck you. He said, you're trying to stop his chest. for what. You know what? That's right. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:32:12 He said that was easy money. He only had to shoot for like whatever. You're trying to stop his checks for what? He's waiting for them to do a Vader series. He doesn't think they're going to do it. He's happy. Stop hating on this man. I'm not hating on him.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I love hating Christensen. I was just saying she did not heed young Anakin's advice. Right. I don't know, man. I didn't mind it. You know, in my head, I'm thinking it's like, I don't know if y'all seen that tug dock. Ricky, when I catch you, Ricky, Ricky when I catch you Ricky. Ricky when I, she was just getting, she was getting, you know, psyched up.
Starting point is 00:32:49 She's like, all right, I'm going to just planning. We're going to have to fight some baddies, you know what I mean? Let's get it. Lock in. Anakin, bro. I need you. I need your wise hearings, bro. Just spit to me real quick.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, but she's kept that hollow since the Clone Wars. Like, she just runs that tape. That's like Michael Phelps getting psyched up for a race every time. And again, I don't think she's run that tape. Because remember, her master was Darth Vader. And when you find that out, it's kind of hard to reconcile your past. It wasn't until she goes to the world between worlds. And it's like, oh, you know, maybe it's not so bad after all that she's able to go back to the tapes and be like, okay, I can do this.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Let's lock. Let's finish the train. Let's lock in. Whoa, Jordan is still Jordan. The tapes would have been fine. You can still look at the game tapes and be like, that's Anakin Skywalker. Just because he's Darth Vader, I'm like, the techniques are still the techniques. if we're being weird. I want all of you guys to grade Sabine's
Starting point is 00:33:42 performance in terms of getting Ezra up to speed on everything that's going on. Okay. All right. This is where I'm like, okay, Sabine, you are really being selective with some of the shit. You are telling Ezra. Y'all don't want to hear my opinion because I'm going to derail this. No, go for it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I want to hear from everybody. What the fuck are we doing with this show now? Where the whole, like, catching Ezra up to speed. from her denying for two episodes to where we end up where Asoka looks at her and at one point I was like is this black woman about to slap Sabine?
Starting point is 00:34:19 And then she's just like, who cares? Ezra! Let's reunite. I was like, what the fuck is happening? Because like, let's remember last episode when Qang wanted to say all the fucking dumb-ass
Starting point is 00:34:35 bedtime stories. She was like, I'm going to. going to kill her, essentially. Like, that was the subtext of that scene. Like, Sabine fucked up. Wait, the subtext of the scene was Osco was going to kill Sabine? Not kill, but she was just like, she fucked up.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I do not agree with her. Like, give her a talking to. I'm going to give her a talk to. Like, for Sabine to get off Scott Free, I was like, what are we doing? I don't think she got off Scott Free. There, you, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, please explain this.
Starting point is 00:35:07 There's still one of my. episode left Charles. Okay. Now if the episode episode eight airs they don't talk about it then yeah she got off scoffrey
Starting point is 00:35:13 there's discussion there's still time left she can still get chute out right because the subject at some point is going to be like hey how did I get here I had to come through
Starting point is 00:35:20 a well's mouth because Sabine she had to come through where godgust whoa buddy we got our hashtag
Starting point is 00:35:31 tonight anyway where did you have to come Jesus Christ Jones Skittles, bro. I know it's late,
Starting point is 00:35:41 but clean up your fucking potty mouth over there. Jesus Christ. God damn. Sabine and her talent for her shit is unrivaled. I've never seen anything like it. She's a special talent. She's a special talent
Starting point is 00:36:00 when it comes to bullshit. Like, oh, so how did you get here? And it's like, ah, don't worry about it, man. So Assoc started like just completely ignoring the question, just like leave like not telling the complete truth. It's honest, we got to give her some credit. Like that's real talent right there. You don't, most people would be like, hey, you're kind of dodging the real question. Like how even hesitate either.
Starting point is 00:36:28 She didn't feel bad about the like, well. It's like, how did you get here? Yeah, it's complicated. Ezra got to stop. Like he is an enabler. where if I've been trapped out there for a fucking decade, I'm like, hey, yo, like, how are we getting fucking home? Please now.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Also, well, I don't know. I think it's kind of like, don't lick a gift horse in the mouth. You know what I mean? We're like, oh, cool. You come to rescue me. I don't really care how you got here. Let's just get out of here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like, at this point, I don't really care how she got here. She's just worried about how he's going to get out. And that's the problem where she's not answering this questions about that at all. Like, she kind of owes it to him to be like, hey, the reason that I'm back here might be the opposite reason why you got here. You ever, like, realize how much Jomey talks about the mouth? It's a lot. Jomey the mouth, man. That's his new nickname.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. Jome the mouth, Joe me the Mouthman, Adiron. Oh, man. So I will say this. I'll say this. I think a lot of things can be true at the same time. we will probably see a little bit more of an interrogation of
Starting point is 00:37:42 of Asoka's feelings towards Sabine in the last episode. It's probably going to happen. I'm sure that's a thread that'll be pulled on. At the same time, like, left me for dead. Come on, bro. I always say left for, assume.
Starting point is 00:37:59 She didn't presume. She didn't even claim it. She was like, I thought you were dead. I'm like, yo, you saw. Me fall, what are you talking about, Sabit? Right. Never trust a fallen Star Wars. True, true.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I mean, to be honest with you, not quite left for dead, but just the entire thing, probably would have had to have a mini conversation. Yeah. A many one. However, I will say this. There is something else to be said about the scene. Ezra is there. And Asoka is obviously filled with joy that she gets to see him.
Starting point is 00:38:34 So there's a possibility you guys have all. been there like with your parents. Your parents told maybe, maybe you haven't. Because you guys probably never caught spankers. You guys probably didn't get spanked. I got, I got my talking about. Okay, so I did. And so I remember one time we went to Venice Beach.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And I started throwing sand on this lady for some reason. I don't know why. Wait, what was the race of this lady to say that? She's white. Why even ask? I just wanted to know. It's just the dynamic of the story. So let me tell you what happened.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Let me tell you what happened. And I don't know why this. I don't know why I did this. So I was messing with sand and I hate sand. I accidentally threw some sand on a lady because I was throwing the sand. She was in front of us.
Starting point is 00:39:21 We were watching like a show on Venice Beach. I accidentally threw some sand on the lady and she didn't realize it. And so for some reason I was like, damn, she can't feel that sand on the back of her leg. And so I started picking up more sand and throwing it on the back of her legs and she was watching the comedy show
Starting point is 00:39:38 on Venice Beach. And I don't know why, but I was just doing it until she realized, in my mind I was like, I'm going to throw this sand, so she realized she'd get hit with sand. Who is she not to realize she's getting hit with this sand? And I remember she turned around and looked at me
Starting point is 00:39:53 and I kind of cracked a smile, like, ah, she finally realized what the sand was going on. And then I looked to my left, and my father was looking at me like, he had been watching me throw sand on this lady. And so we're driving home and my dad is like, Crystal, I'm telling you, something is wrong with that boy. I keep trying to tell you out.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I watch this boy throw sand on a woman for at least two minutes. Something is wrong with this boy. We need to have him looked at. And the whole time my dad is looking at things like, man, when we get home, I'm going to whoop your motherfucker ass. And so the whole ride home I'm thinking I'm gonna get my ass whooped. We get home and my uncle's there.
Starting point is 00:40:38 We didn't expect him to be home from, let's say, a vacation. That he... Oh, I know. Oh, a federal vacation? We didn't expect him to be home from, let's say, a vacation that he was on. And so when we got there, he saw his brother. And it was like, oh, my God, right? And he was so happy.
Starting point is 00:41:02 that he had seen my unc that he kind of forgot about the sand situation. And that could be the same thing that was going on to bring it full circle with Sabine and Ezra and them. Could have possibly, I'm so happy to see Ezra than I'm not as mad at Sabine as I might be. Could be like me throwing sand. She looked genuinely overjoyed to see him. Yes. It was a very touching scene.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Guys, it would also be music. assured destruction because while Asoka could be like Sabine left me for dead, Sabine can turn around and be like, A, she wanted to fucking leave you out here. Let me tell you. It's true. You know what I'm saying? So Asoka was probably like, you know what? Let's just call bygones, be bygones.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm really happy to see you, Ezra. Let's not get into how I was basically going to let you die out here for all of eternity. All that stuff will see the light of day. They'll eventually have to hash all that. We'll see. See how I as where I said. I do want to say something. I just want to ask you guys and the audience,
Starting point is 00:42:14 just can I have some latitude to be toxic? Just real quick. It's a little bit. No, of course. That's what the show is all about. I don't get latitude. No. I just want some loud.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Okay, well, then I'm going to do it anyway. There was one really funny part of the show. And I know it wasn't that. It just looked funny with all the. that's been in the air between Sabine and Ezra. So when they're riding on a little naughty craft, it starts off, and Ezra's riding on the craft, and all of a sudden, Sabine comes up from underneath.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Oh. And for... You've got to be... Wait a minute. You're not serious. Wait a minute. You're not serious. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Wait a minute. And I just know... This is not... And this is something. Sometimes when I wonder if the Disney people are like fucking with us because I'm watching that and I'm like, no fucking way, right? Like I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, that's not. I'm sorry. I guarantee you nobody else on this call thought that.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I didn't even think about this for a one second. No. No. I was like, for a split second I was like. I did not think Ezra was getting this sloppy top. I was in for the second. It was like, stop this. Did I miss something?
Starting point is 00:43:35 Okay, they're just friends. Okay, it's fine. We're shipping everybody, but I can't say. You're like a sister to me, clearly. I don't know, man. I don't know. 100 free events. 6,000 kids.
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Starting point is 00:44:52 is his tactical military mind, his analytical mind of blue Sherlock Holmes with red eyes, who is the grand admiral of the goddamn empire. This episode, do enough to establish Thrawn's analytical military mind. Are we to the point to where Thrawn is that scheming, planning, ridiculously formidable military foe? Did we get that enough in this episode? Did you guys feel that from Thrawn here with all the different stuff that he was doing?
Starting point is 00:45:34 They gave him even a little digital chessboard for him to look at and with all the force, it was a lot of different ways that Throne was making decisions here. You could tell that they were trying to get them there and that that was a big part of this episode. Did they get there with the character? I thought they did.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like I mentioned in the beginning, Thrawn is somebody with a lot, like a lot of smart, very, you know, got a lot of machinations going on. So when it's time for him to get busy, put down work, you know, we're really excited to see it. And so I thought this episode
Starting point is 00:46:05 a really good job of show, showing the throne that we saw, we've seen in rebels, right? Where he's just like, one step head, always locked in. Even if it seems like, oh, he's lost, he's like, nope, I got it. You know, Asoka, her most precious resource was time, and she's lost it. We're almost out of here. We're about to, we're about to head out to the new, back to the old galaxy with them training here. Like that's, that's, that's the plan, right?
Starting point is 00:46:31 That's always been the plan. And so if that works, then is there stranded if they're dead? doesn't really matter to Thron, right? And so I thought this episode did a really great job of for the people seeing the first time. That's what he does. He's just like always one, two steps ahead of the opposition. I would agree.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I really like the idea. What? I would agree. Steve, are you, are you hymning and haunt here? No, I'm not hitting in a hon. I think it's, no, but I agree, I agree to a degree. I think it can only be so exciting when we kind of know. that Thron will be getting out of here eventually and like but ultimately suffering
Starting point is 00:47:12 an L later I I've liked to see his strategy I've liked to see his mind at work I've liked seeing him think about how he can sort of like lead the the fish on the real a bit that is like when he was pursuing Asoka through that debris field and And he's like, don't like push her too far. Let her make her own choices as to how she gets out because it will eventually be us that pushes her away from us. And I love that thinking.
Starting point is 00:47:45 That's the type of thinking that like is actually kind of exciting to think of how Thrawn can operate as a villain. I think what ultimately is going to prove to him being like the villain that we like to see is kind of utterly decimating a foe of his or somebody that would oppose him. We've seen that happen in rebels. We've seen that happen to people with far greater stakes on their hands.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I think for now it has to just be like, okay, we have to just be able to bamboozle the people that are seemingly two steps behind us just to get out of here. So I think once we see Thrawn in like an actual like militaristic like these ships versus these ships, like that will be interesting. But I think for now, pretty good.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Charles, you don't think so. I mean, I think aesthetically, the show did a very good job of trying to convince us that Thron is a tactical genius, but there were various points in this episode where I was like, either the plot armor is thick on our heroes,
Starting point is 00:48:50 which obviously it always is. Because some of the stuff that Thrawn is doing, I was like, I'm no tactical genius myself, but what the fuck is happening? Because one moment in the episode, he would be like, we need to save all of our supplies. Don't worry. And then at another point, he was just like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:49:11 A bunch of our night troopers and everybody got killed. Let's just, who cares? Let's just bring them back. It's cool. And I was like, what are we doing here? There were just multiple points in the episode. How many times are you going to say, what are we doing? I asked that for 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:49:29 by the time C3PO showed up to the time Assoca was hugging Ezra. I was like, yo guys, what's going on? We only got one episode. So I think Thron aesthetically looked more like Throne. They gave him more to do. He had his little chessboard. But just in terms of strategically,
Starting point is 00:49:50 he sent two ships after these people. Why couldn't he just killed them? Why didn't he kill the two Jedi and the, the Jedi in trading? Why don't he just murder those guys? I mean, it's a ship. So, like, you couldn't have got, only one of them had fucking lightsaber
Starting point is 00:50:09 at that point before even Assoca is there. So I was like, it's just, they want Thron to be imposing, but I knew that there was another episode of this. And obviously, to Steve's point, Thrawn is going to get out of here. So I do want to say, for the writers involved,
Starting point is 00:50:24 I get that it's, it is hard to write a character that can, make our heroes feel imperiled when we know that they are going to show up in this crossover movie. So there were just multiple points where it just felt like we were circling the drain. And then when Thron's plan didn't work, he would turn around and be like, ha ha, that's what I planned all along. We're all doing this other thing.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And it just felt very much like a cartoon. So what I'll say is, you know, he did talk a little bit about how unpredictable and dangerous Asoka is because she was Anacons. on. So maybe he had an extra degree of trepidation in dealing with her. So there was some stuff that that kind of was laid out there as for the reason why he didn't go in guns blazing. But let me say something else about the character. It's harder to do a character like Thrawn because he's not a maniac. Maniac. I don't know if I ever told you about my pal Jason Isaacs. actor in the Patriot. I think I've told the story before.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I was talking to Jason Isaacs one time about the movie The Patriot and why he was such a good villain. He said, well, the first time you see me, I kill a child. It's like I kill a child and cold blood in front of his father. That's easy.
Starting point is 00:51:46 The rest of the time you see me on the screen, you're going to snarl at me because the things I've done are so horrible. I see the empire, blow up Alderon. on Darth Vader, forced choke people for not following closely enough or losing the Millennium Falcon. Hey, this guy's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's not thrown style. So because that's not his style, you have to do a little bit more with the pin to build up why he's so scary. And that's a challenge. You know, that's a challenge. That's not an easy thing to do. It's almost easier in book form because you're reading it and you're imagining. imagining it in. You're back with some of these characters, you know, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:30 But in this, you know, it would be so easy if Thron just fucking killed Shin or had somebody blow or Morgan walked up the throne and he took out a dagger and stabbed her in the throat. Thank you. You've gotten me here now. The Knight Sisters. We don't need you anymore. You're dead. That would be easy. But they got a little bit more to do with him in that respect. and I thought that they did a good job of reinforcing to the audience that already knows Thron what he's into. What I'm wondering is people that might not be so familiar with him how they're viewing the character right now in terms of him being the big bad.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And I think that's a fair thing to ask. Is it also a thing of like this is a weird place to put a character like Thron where I think Thron does the best when he has enough chips. And he's planning months and years ahead where we have the problem of, I'm still wondering, wait, why didn't he get Ezra for 10 years? Like, what was happening there? What happened with the night troopers? And because that's probably just not going to get answered that much because of the momentum of the show, I think you're just getting a Thron that is harder to shine because he's on the back foot. disappeared, he's haggard, when
Starting point is 00:53:56 Thrawn to me works the best when it's like, oh, he's this shadow coming out of nowhere and he can use his chips better than anybody else in the empire. Yeah, yeah. Look, there is a tremendous amount of fear in the face of Mon Mothma when the prospect of Thrawn returning becomes real. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And so when you see that and everybody's talking about it, you got to pay it off. Even the night troopers in this, they're essentially regular stormtroopers. Okay? They were getting that ass blasted up. I expect that the night troopers to fucking, that's a little right here,
Starting point is 00:54:44 but I thought perhaps they would be a little different. A little bit more savage because they survived this entire time? Perhaps. Or there's all of this. objecture about them. And maybe, you know, I'm doing a little bit too much of expecting. But I thought maybe they would be a little bit different. Essentially, the show is giving us the information as they want us to have it.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And I was entertained. It was very entertained, very entertained by everything that was going on. I think I see the thorniness of throng and I'm accepting the thorniness of I think we'll only ratchet up from here from now. I think that in episode eight, you're probably going to get a lot more of the answers to the questions that we want. But, you know, for now, we're coasting along as a penultimate. They didn't try to do too much.
Starting point is 00:55:37 But this episode did push the story for it a lot. How mad would you be if you were one of the night troopers that, like, sees a ship has finally come to rescue you? And then you have to turn around. And they're like, yo, go fucking fight these Jedi. I would have just hid until the ship is just leaving. Honestly, I feel like they're so in the pocket for throne, they would die willingly. Under a spell of some sort.
Starting point is 00:56:01 By the way, this- Oh, maybe they're all just witch dust. Could be. This episode looked fantastic. It looked great. Enoch popping up, holograms everywhere. We're in the Star Wars, guys. This is some Star Wars-I-Cats.
Starting point is 00:56:16 My Nadi were out there, not one casualty. I'm telling you, if they were to kill one of my Nadi, I'd have been fucking pissed off. Okay? Yeah, that would have sucked. To me, those are a bunch of little bozeman's out there. And if they were to kill one of them, I'd have been fucking pissed. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Jome, you're quiet. What do you got about Thron? Like I said, I like Throne. I think what's interesting is next week is, I mean, we're in for a lot to happen. You know, again, you don't want to write this show. But, you know, we got to find out what's up of Baylon. You know, Thron, Ezra, Asoka, and Sabine have to get off this plan. and into our old galaxy, right?
Starting point is 00:56:54 There is a lot to wrap up, but I think that we're, I trust Dave to give us, you know, an ending we can live with, an ending we can come home to it, like, all, all, cool, you know, it's all copacetic, we're setting up, you know, how many spinoffs, movies, whatever we got to do. At the end of the day, I think we're in for something. But like I said, the beginning, I think the one thing that this episode missed was more Baylon stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Like I kind of wish he would like, you know, told Asoka what it was exactly what it was. Let's sit on the plane a little bit. Yeah, let us in on, you know, give us a little nugget. Because I really like, like I said last week, I really love that stuff. Like him going and being like, we got to stop the cycle of the Jedi and, you know, the empire and all this stuff keeps happening. I was like, okay, I'll lock then what you're trying to do, my boy. And so we didn't get any of that this week, which is kind of disappointing. But hopefully next week we get a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And yeah, I really can't wait for that. I hope it's big. And again, like, Ray Stevenson's awesome. And it, you know, rest in peace to him because he really did some with Bailen's goal, man. Like, he really, really, really knelt this role. So can we just see what happens next week with him? Absolutely. Generally, we want to talk about one thing before we get out of here.
Starting point is 00:58:09 The action in Asoka. Got a couple of different lightsaber fights here. Actually, just one lightsaber fight than more lightsabering action. How do we like the action in the episode? I really liked the episode, but at times, lightsaber fight between Asoka and Baylon did feel a little stiff. It felt a little, we are saving the big bucks and the big, like, duly stuff for the finale, which was just, I was less pissed off about it because I just knew what it was immediately.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Once they started fighting, I'm like, all right, y'all not being serious right now. Same thing with even, I will say Baylon. is a very bad teacher because he's essentially like hey Shin just go out there fuck shit up don't want it too hard
Starting point is 00:59:01 and you'll be fine and I'm just wondering what is Shin's deal because she's got a lot on her mind okay okay first of all let's get this we got to talk about this Steve is in the pocket of house
Starting point is 00:59:16 hottie bro absolutely I am Steve is a stand. Shin can't do any wrong in his mind. So you can't, you can't talk to him. Absolutely correct. About it.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Shin does it for you, Steve? You like that? He's locked in. That's what you like. I'm locked in. All right. How's Hottie and all their prospects? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:36 What is it about her that flips your lid? Is it the Aryan style here? I think it's the braid? Is it the braid? It is the braid. It's the death stare, thousand miles death stare you know it's pretty good kind of ladies you like in 10 size very you you you want to be would you so like what's the what's the situation what's the fantasy is the fantasy
Starting point is 01:00:00 that you're the master and she's the paduan no fantasy it's just more of a of a distant admiration I don't think you can do that I think a distant admiration sounds very creepy see you that's stalker shit oh really like the camera on Harrison Dula when you were distantly admiring her and Senate floor, come on. Let's not do this. What I'm saying is about the way, the master Padawan thing doesn't really work because there's a whole age, Archieie, Jedi thing.
Starting point is 01:00:29 But like, what I'm saying what I'm saying, hold on, wait, wait for a thing. See, this is the problem. You like her. Don't you like her. Nobody else was, we were talking about her as a character, you like her. What is it about her that you like
Starting point is 01:00:46 so much? Is it the hair Is it like, what is it? It's that whole Joan of Arc vibe. I dig it. Oh, that's, see what I'm saying? I get that. I understand that the whole Joan of Arc situation.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Remember Milo Jojovich in The Messenger, you know, she's Joan of Arc. She's, she's... That's a cool movie. It's a great movie, right? She's like, she's, she's all punk rock. But at the same time, she's dedicated. She's got to get it.
Starting point is 01:01:15 She's got to do it. And she does the whole thing. with wisps of hair. You like wisps of hair, don't you, Steve, whips when it's wispy. Okay, whatever. You know,
Starting point is 01:01:24 you don't want to talk about it. Here's the thing. You guys are afraid to open up. The three of these guys. I think we open up just enough. Wait, why don't I get into this? Why do I get fucking thrown in front of the fucking bars? Look,
Starting point is 01:01:36 I look at stuff and I think that stuff went down. It looks like it looks. You know, we have crushes. I'll tell you straight up. I wasn't prepared for the brown pants. It was different. You know what I mean? It was different.
Starting point is 01:01:49 It was different. But I can still be respectful. I can be respectful in admiring someone. Anyway. Are you being respectful from a distance like Steve? Yes, a distant admiration. A distant admiration like through the window 10 or 15 feet away, 9.45 at night. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Call somebody on Steve. Hey, there's some guy outside. He's got glasses. No, man. The interesting about shit, it's a character. I think, and I think I've said this before,
Starting point is 01:02:21 but I think Shin is really like, I think they're going to come to some agreement with our squad. So we'll be like, look, you know, you know, I didn't kill you that once I remember
Starting point is 01:02:29 and Baylon's not here. And the throne and the nicest is, they're not really miss with you, I'm saying, but we got you. You know what I mean? You come with us. We're going to protect you and keep you safe.
Starting point is 01:02:39 And maybe that's just like an uneasy alliance that maybe they get into that maybe blocks. So she's traitor Joe's ventress, essentially. Maybe. Maybe. She seemed, there was something weird between them in this episode.
Starting point is 01:02:53 By the way, I just want to call out that something in this episode that did give me the feels early on was the real Empire Strikes Backness of having to navigate the minefield and then hide out in the debris. Even the line, if we stay out here any longer, we're going to get pulverized, I'm like, I see you, Dave. You're bringing us back. You're doing that thing. I see you, Dave. But there's something between Shin and Baylon, and I think it's one of the more underrated aspects of the show. There seems to be, as the show has gone on, a frame of the trust between these two characters. If you first started off, it seemed as if they were of one mind.
Starting point is 01:03:43 One moved one way, the other moved another way. They were completely in Sympatico. as things have gone on, there hasn't been any one huge blowup, but they've done a good job at just pulling them apart. To the point in this episode, he says that he's finished with her training. He essentially lets her go. And this was a very interesting development to me
Starting point is 01:04:11 because a lot of people had conjectured about what their relationship was. there are a lot of people that thought maybe she was his daughter where he got her, how they met, the whole nine, their backstory is between each other as unknown. But it seems like they're less on the same page as we move along to the point to now. He seems to be off on his own mission and sit her off on hers. Super duper interesting to me and the type of stuff that keeps you interested in the show. Obviously, you want to know all this other stuff. But that's one of the things that keeps you interested in the show all the way through the finale. any predictions for the finale.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yeah, everybody goes home happily ever after. We all go back to our original galaxy. We're like, man, that was fun. That a blast. Probably get a nice shot of Zeb. Just a nice five second him traded. I love where they were like, hey, you know, yeah. And Zeb, the CGI character.
Starting point is 01:05:06 He's all trading people. I was like, damn, they get him really dirty. Reset the clock. They mentioned Zeb. Anybody else have anything real that they want to say about the predictions? I mean, you guys are bullshitters. You, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't be like, does anybody have predictions?
Starting point is 01:05:20 And I mean like, don't write the show. Look at the show runner. It's da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm not doing this show. Can I make a goddamn distinction? All right, you son of a bitch. Okay. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Can I make a distinction here? Make your distinction. This is the distinction. Not writing the show is talking about something that happened that you think should have happened differently. all right predicting the show we all do that we all theorize you motherfucker you i can't believe you've theorizing is you fucking writing the show because then what we know if you come in here next week and we're like well we theorize that this thing writing the show is hey they did this way this is what
Starting point is 01:06:04 they should have done blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah that's writing your own show theorizing about what they wrote it's totally different you know what you don't do charles you don't come at me like that you've been coming at people all night long with your different smug attitude and what are we doing here? You've been coming at me. Don't come at me like that. Sorry for my smoke. So here's what's
Starting point is 01:06:26 going to happen. It's what's going to happen next week. Okay. Okay. Sokers going to be like, yo, Sabine, you kind of left me back there. That was kind of messed up. But here I am. Let's get out of here. It's just going to be like, great. How do we get out of here?
Starting point is 01:06:40 That's something going to look at Sabine and be like, listen. So what happened was, I had to get Thron, you know what I'm saying? And apparently Thron's about to leave. So we got to get on his ship and go right with him. Asoka and Ezra, I'm going to be really happy about that. The end of the day, they do have to get out of here.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And that's like the whole episode. Boom. You don't have to watch next week. Real quick, this isn't about what's happening next week, but I felt a way about how the pergels were done because the pergels were nice and transported them. And Qang, once they're fucking hitting the fucking mind, field. He's like, at least the pergels are giving us cover. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:07:20 yo, they're in pain, bruh. What are we doing? And as soon as that was said, the pergill was like, fuck y'all, niggas. That's how you feel? Y'all be easy. Because really, to be honest with you,
Starting point is 01:07:36 that's how you know Assook Black, right? She hitched a ride across the galaxy with these people, not telling them that it will smoke on the other end. That's the type of that your homies do to you. Hey, man, like, take me over here real quick. I'm like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:07:51 As soon as we get out the car, your boy, like, yo, nigga, what's up? And you like, hey, dog, what the fuck? And you're like, oh, you're like, oh, you're like, what? He's like, yo, what's popping? Hey, Van, come on, bro, let's go. I'm like, bro, dog, I got basketball practice. I didn't come over for you.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I didn't come over here for this. That's exactly what they did to the pergul. I don't think they tell the purgars. I don't think she knew. But it's worse, but it's worse, because that's Ezra's man. You know what I'm saying? Like Ezra got the connection with the Pergels.
Starting point is 01:08:22 They were just like, Asoka, you want, like you wanted the friends. Of course, you were homie. We'll help you out. Now, next time Ezra goes to the Perl, he's like, yo, we're not helping you. Not helping any more fucking Jedi. Y'all are fucking liars. All the Pergill have been used and abused in this situation. And their autonomy has not been considered.
Starting point is 01:08:43 They have brought people to other places. All they do is war. all they do is war around. The pergul are like the hippies of space. Go from place to place chilling, riding all over. And they get hit with mines who yank don't even care. I feel you, bro. And then she goes, look, now they're leaving.
Starting point is 01:09:05 As if she wanted them to stay and be crash test dummies getting hit with mines from Thron. Throne's not an animal lover. Oh, I was going to say my last question prediction for y'all. I'm not wishing for this. But the Leah stuff made me wonder how many more of these can we do before we start asking where the fuck is Luke
Starting point is 01:09:28 and Leah's training to be a Jedi at this time? So I'm getting, I'm like, where are these? Like, it is getting to the point. I'm starting to wonder, like, we got the strongest Jedi out here and he's just not doing shit. he'd be in the principal right now.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And Leah is canonically training right now. Yeah, you know what I mean? That is true. This would be great training for Laya. I didn't think about Rise of Skywalker, but that is true. She is training right now. They're in the gym. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:09:57 You got two Skywalker's out here, best force users in the fucking galaxy. And they're not helping out? They can't chip in? See, what's going to happen? See, what you did is because Dave is listening to this right now. He's like, yo, you kind of right.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And so when we get to the movie in a couple of years, they're going to be a point where it all looks, it all looks grim, all looks bad, and then the fucking millennium falcons is going to drop out of hyperspace. It's going to be Lou Glenn and Han and fucking chewy. And then to come save the day.
Starting point is 01:10:28 You just, you just wrote the movie, man. Go get your check. The checks in the mail. They still got to have the nigger from Hale Caesar come back. Was his name All in Onrike? All in Onry. They got to let him come back.
Starting point is 01:10:40 What would y'all do? in the movie if everybody, they just, they didn't tell us anything and then they just changed all the actors. Luke, Leah, fuck it, all in his back. I might be okay with it. I might be okay with it. Wait, wait, hold on. What if they come back is Lucas played by like Lakeith Stanfield? That would be so hilarious, bro. Why do we always, why do you default to
Starting point is 01:10:57 Lakeith Stanfield for like every other casting decision? Yeah, that's, that's funny to me. See, that's the type of shit I like. See, I could never run one of these big studios. Because that's the type of- You just put Lekeith in everything? No, bro, because like, let's say that. like some kind of way, let's say that some kind of way I was the owner of Disney. I wouldn't do it seriously.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Right? So Iger picks, Iger picks you. I'm having, I'm having a Leia play, Christian, I'm having Christian Wig play Leia. I play, Chrison Rock, bro. Chrison Rock. Chrison Rock. Chrison Rock. Chrison Rock.
Starting point is 01:11:31 That goes fucking hard, dog. And I just, just see what people do. Or I always thought that, like, I would like to. Send a movie to theaters, but like every 200th reel of the movie that gets sent out do some like wacky shit. It's like the ending of Clue. Yeah, like every 300th reel that gets sent out just like in the middle of the movie like fuck with people and do some crazy ass shit. Like have a main character get their head blown off and go, aha, we just fucking with y'all. Can I go back to the movie?
Starting point is 01:12:09 job at Van Zwald Disney. This is what I would pitch. You should, we should just make new Star Wars sequels, right? Do whatever, whatever story. But every 100th movie, all the characters should just be black. And we don't tell anybody.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So it's just like, you have a bunch of white people being like, bro, I saw Black Star Wars and everybody's like, what are you talking about? These people aren't black. It would be so... Even... Astronomically great.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Even made the Ewarks black. Make them the Black walks. Right? And they just, and they just, there's a bunch of tiny black chrysanons. They just, what? What?
Starting point is 01:12:46 What did you say? Steve. What did you say, Steve? Tiny black for what, nigga? Black chrysanes. Yeah. You mean the black wookie?
Starting point is 01:12:58 Yeah. You want the e-walks. The black e-walks. They look like the black wookie. I know who he's talking about. He's careful over there. You got a little bit too familiar. He said the word so fast.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I had to stop and be like, all right, what cool. A bunch of, because think about it, a bunch of black. That's where it's, that's what it's stuff. A bunch of black. I hit the bee a little too hard. A bunch of black. Brough, I'll tell you, bro, is, well, people don't understand. We joke because we love you guys.
Starting point is 01:13:28 It's one that you guys know. I just have to say it again. We love Steve, and Steve is literally, I told Steve before this, Steve, what did I tell you before we got on here? That I'm your friend. that you're my friend. He's not just my co-worker. He's my friend.
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's my friend. I love Steve. But having said that, it is funny just how certain things get hurt. I've just heard it before. Like, even sometimes,
Starting point is 01:13:56 we've talked about this, even sometimes when white people say the blacks. Like, blacks do this. Like, what the fuck? I don't know who says that. They say it sometimes. Blacks,
Starting point is 01:14:04 they say it. You know, and what you have to say this, Blacks want healthcare. Don't you tell me what blacks want, nigger. We ain't no blacks. I'm a human.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Anyway, Black EWalks. How do we get here? We need to end this one. I have no fucking clue. It's over. It's late. It's not even as late as in this for Charles. All right, look, you guys, we are one episode away from the end of Asoka. And it's been a wild ride.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Let's see how the show finishes up next week. And just to let you guys know, we got more. stuff coming. You have to follow us on Insta, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok. Jomey the Mouthman, a dinner on. Jeez. Jome the Mouth man. And you guys, when you say Jomey the Mouthman
Starting point is 01:14:51 is not M-O-U-T-H. It's M-O-U-F. That mouth. Jomey the Mouth man. This Friday, the M-O-U-T-H. The Mint people are back. They return with their Gen V premier thoughts.
Starting point is 01:15:11 You guys have seen any of Jim V? Yes. Enjoying it? I've enjoyed it. Yes. He's enjoyed it. House of R will be giving you their deep dive on Asoka. You guys, the deep dives over at House of R have been fantastic.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I mean, literally. The deep dives on House of R have always fantastic. But the deep dives on Asoka have been particularly entertaining. I'm sitting down and Kalika's like, are you still listening to the same podcast? I'm like, yeah, and it gets better every fucking second, nigger. And then she looks at me and she goes, nigger. And then I go, I'm sorry, baby. And I get up and go do some housework.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Loki is all the way. Beyond the lookout for that, our instant reactions will be coming soon. A producer is Steve, the architect, Almond. On social, show me the mouth man, Adirond, additional production from Arjunon, Paul. Chuck Wagon, take us out. Jomey is now the mouth man on this show we can never relax. As long as Steve is here,
Starting point is 01:16:15 we will always get to know about the blacks. Whoa! Whoa! War criminals. No, no, no, war criminals. Oh, boy, what's your YouTube algorithm like right now?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Bro, I can look it up. You guys want to, let's see what YouTube is telling me right now to watch. He's on war criminal YouTube? Oh, boy. No, I don't have like war, like literally, if I go to my YouTube right now, I just go to recommend it. This shit is crazy. It's LSU videos, boxing videos, Malcolm X, white liberals versus rights conservatives.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Jeez. Boy. Native American history. Okay. The Supendous Wave, which is the Star Wars channel. LSU and Ole Miss preview. prediction, how anxiety leads to greatness. Miamoto.
Starting point is 01:17:27 These are the videos. Wow. Do you just let the auto play run for all of these? Sometimes I do. The full story of Bain, Dark Bain. How long is that video? This video is two hours and 30. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:17:42 What? From Star Wars Central. The Joel Clat Show, college football. And the last one I'll read, the true story of Lex Lugers, failed WWE mega push. I actually don't know why that one, and one video that says, vaccine MRI contaminates breast milk.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Oh my God. That's when you got to like say, thumbs down that. No, but I watch videos about all types of different stuff, and I guess they think that I should know about the vaccine. What are your thoughts on vaccination right now? Thoughts on vaccination is go get your shit if that's what you want to do. All right?
Starting point is 01:18:19 We've seen enough to not make this. societal issue anymore. Go get vaccinated. The science is fine. I'm not going to fucking talk to you about it anymore because I'm fucking exhausted. Okay. So, uh...

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