The Ringer-Verse - 'Andor' Episode 10 Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

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I'm going to tell you got something right now. Black Panther Wakanda Forever is a movie that almost broke Midnight Boys. I had to, like, oh no, no, no, no, no. My bad. I had public apology.

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And those questions drew battle lines. You know what I mean? Okay. Friday, the House of R will be giving you their deep dive until episode 10 of Andor, maybe the greatest show that's ever been produced. Monday, the House of R returns to give you their deep dive on Wakanda Forever. That's going to be a long one. And I'm wondering, because I was with Mallory Rubin when Wakanda Forever was seen,

I'm so interested in seeing what the House of R has to say about Wakanda Forever. I'm so interested in seeing it. On today, today's show, we're giving you guys instant reactions to episode 10 of Andor. And before we get into it, because, of course, I turn it over to Chuck real quick. You got to do this, spoiler warning. I'm just going to chastise you guys one more time.

That's what old men do. They chastise young people. If you're fucking missing out on Andor and you're not putting the Andor to the top of the heap, you're part of the problem. That's all I'm going to say. I'm sick of you guys complaining about everything. You complain, complain, complain, complain.

You complain about Boba Fett. You complain. And I'm not saying all stuff wasn't worth complaining about, but goddamn it's right here for you. It's right here for you. Everything. The best. The best.

And you're not, and I don't hear you. Hey, Star Wars fans, I don't hear you. Oh, for the warning. We're getting ready to talk about Cassianander. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Of course, to begin our reaction,

we have to make sure you are in the know. And the only way to do that is to listen to the Midnight Manifest with Choke. Coke, baby Chuck, the 24-Care Clos. Charles, take it away. This is the Midnight Manifest. For Andor, one way out, directed by Put It in My Vains, Toby Haynes, written by Bo Willemann. We start. My man Andor is up in Kino's grill.

He's that enough. It's shit or get off the pot time, baby. It's Wentworth Miller. I just tatted the whole prison break on my fucking. back time, baby. What does Andor tell my man Kino as he starts panicking? Power doesn't panic. Let's fucking go.

Kino and Ander go back to their cells and the boss man finally gets with the program. It's time. The next day, the breakout commences and Andor was right. There weren't enough guards. No one was expecting this shit. Quickly, the prisoners overrun Narcina 5. It's a mayhem, and Kino and Or get to the big boy command center. And after dispatching the guards, the moment arise, bro.

Kino is B. Rabbit in 8 Mile. He's got mom spaghetti on his prison uniform. It's now or never. And all I got to say about this tort for speech by Andy Circus is, one way motherfucking out. But in the saddest Star Wars moment of all time. Oh, God. I can't believe they did it.

Keep no reveals. This motherfucker can't swim, bro. I almost threw my remote STV. Sorry. I'm sorry to interject the matter of this. I'm sorry. And then, I saved the best for last go. You get to move then.

My man finally handled business. Tripped out and head to toe. Raff Simmons. He meets with Lonnie, a mole, the rebellion placed inside the empire that's cracking under the pressure. And Luton got to give a big boy speech now. Jay-Z Dynasty intro-level monologue. When the mole has the audacity to ask Luton what he sacrificed, Luton says, nigger, everything! Luton says, I share my dreams with ghosts. Bruh, I just, chills. I don't know.

Greatest Star Wars speech ever maybe. What? Yes. This has been your Midnight Manifest. We have to get to this episode. I have never loved an episode of TV. Real quick, though, Charles. You missed the part with Mar and Mothma's meeting.

No, that's on the scrap. I didn't miss that shit. I had to get in my real shit. We'll talk about about Mark. Tell him about his mouth. All right. You can tell him what are you doing? Run.

Leave that in. Oh, my good choice. Okay. Wow. About his manifest. Oh, all right. Charles, take it away. Standout moments in the episode.

It's all for you. Here's the thing. In the last month, I've had two transformational experiences when I viewed art. The first one. Don't, Charles, please, bro. No, it's not. I promise.

not. I promise it's not. Can you trust me? My fingers on the button, Charles. No, no, no, no. I trust it. Fingers on the button. The first one, I'm being dead serious. Was when I walked into the Sistine Chapel

and I looked up at that fucking painting. And I was like, fuck, God. I was just like, for those uninitiated, we were worried that Black Adam was going to make an appearance. I honestly wanted to switch it to Black Adam so much. I know you were. But I did it.

When I looked at the Sistine Chapel, it was like one of those moments where you look at art and you were like, my problems are insignificant. Humans are capable of so much beauty. I love being alive in this world. And the second time I was transformed by art was watching Luthin's speech. It kept getting better.

It was like every single time I thought it was going to end and I'm like, this is the greatest shit ever. And then he would say a new line where I was like, what the fuck is happening right now? Like what type of TV show? Like to the reason. Isn't it was so electric to me? So, like, just alchemy to me is because we see Scars Guard doing what I think no Star Wars thing

has ever done, showing you the actual toll of a rebellion. Luton tells them, like, I've had to use the enemy's weapons to do what I'm doing. He's destroyed emotionally. His soul is destroyed. He's not coming out of this alive. He's given everything to his dream. this is it. It's destroyed him.

He's just as evil as the empire, but he doesn't care. Because to win freedom on this scale, he's willing to do what has to be done for the galaxy. And I cannot, like, I want to hear y'all. But when I watched that,

this was an amazing episode. Circus killed it. Fucking Diego Luna killed it. But that speech where I was like, this is why the Midnight Boys exist. This is why Phantom exists. This is why I do this shit. I love this fucking.

episode. What Luthan's speech did was something that's very difficult to do. Lutthin's speech created, in my opinion, like an unmissable watershed moment in Star Wars fandom. It made this show to me an unmissable essential piece of Star Wars fandom. Luton explained the reason why the show and or exists. He explained it. That speech, not necessarily that was in its intention, but very rarely in a piece of art, in a piece of movie, media, television, movie, whatever,

do you get a scene that so clearly gives you the reason why a show exists and why it's important, especially in a prequel when we know how the story ends. The difference between the heroes that we first met and the heroes that we're meeting now is that the heroes we first met get to win. So the stories that we follow, Han, even Anakin,

who lives to see the death of the emperor, the emperor, right? Han, Leah, Chewy, the core of those guys, the core of those guys, like, they get to win. And that changes their existence. Like, fundamentally,

of course, we have sequel movies where there's some losses, but fundamentally their existence is changed. Their existence is, it's hinged upon, like, that speech that Luther gave, it challenges hope. Either it challenges hope or it punches steroids into hope,

depending on the way that you look at it, right? Yeah. Because the hope that you would have to have in order to strip your existence down into what he stripped his down to with the words that he said, it would have to be all hope or all hate or all rage or all understanding, all love or all hate. but it's an absolute for sure. And we didn't really get to exist in absolutes

with the original Star Wars. We had people that, yeah, they hated the empire, but they loved Darth Vader in terms of Luke Skywalker, right? Sure, they were no... Are you mean Anakin? Oh, excuse me, I'm talking about Anakin. Oh, Luke loving Anakin. Luke, Luke, like, they hated the empire,

but they loved, we loved a lot. We've been taught in Star Wars that, absolutes are evil. This show exists completely in the gray area of what you are willing to do. You can't be absolute good. You can't be absolute evil in this world. There is just a mission and mission accomplishment. So to me, watching Lutheran contextualize what we're watching when we're watching this beginning

of the rebellion stuff. We're watching the people who have to look. lose. We're watching the people who have to come to terms with loss. We're watching the people who don't get to see the celebration with the Ewarks on indoor. They never even get there. They don't even get close to that. There are no songs for them. There's no remembrance for them. There's no nothing. And in every struggle, everywhere, those people exist. Everywhere. They don't write no songs about them. They just got to fucking get to it. You don't get to be a forced ghost.

Right, and you don't get none of that. And like, he's looking at that guy and he's, and he's really telling him, yo man, Lonnie. By the way, just to have a nigga in Star Wars name Lonnie. You know what I'm like? I look at all the names that they have a, like, yeah, this guy's getting his ass handed to him named Lonnie.

Lonnie, you thought you were going to, you know what I'm saying? Lonnie. Come on, Lonnie. He's like, he's looking at him. He's like, yo, how dare you? He doesn't need. to say how dare you because like everything that he calls this is just like yeah this is the laundry list of what i've given yeah so um but that that's that's that's that's you were spitting

man this shit brought a different side at you no man like yo i'm a kid be like and or is that shit bro like i'm sorry bro and or and or and or is that shit man and like this shit i i can't like i I ran this shit back three times. I'm like, I know they're not fucking with me like this. You know what I mean? Like, Andor is that shit, man. I'm not even, I'm not going to hold you. And think about when, when, like, they strategically use and show us this moment in Luthan's arc,

when, like, he's telling us all of these things that he's sacrificed in parallel to a prison break, in parallel to people, knowing that people aren't going to get out. We see people get shot down. We see bodies pile on top of each other so that. thousands can leave. We see bodies pouring out into the water in that prison and we see one guy who can't make it.

One guy who won't get to see what freedom looks like. And then we see Luthin being like, I know exactly what my score is. I'm damned for what I do. And I know that I won't see that sunrise. And it's like, it's exactly the right place to show that because we have

seen so many people lay down their lives just to show everybody what that hope could look like. to see what everybody else can do in the face of all of that. And it's such a perfectly poetic episode. Like, we don't really need that much, like, dialogue or plot when we have Luthan basically giving us the thesis of what we have just seen go down in this prison.

You guys are telling the truth right now, you know? I bird my decency for someone else's future. I burned my life to make a sunrise. I know I'll never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude. It doesn't get

better than that, ladies and gentlemen. You think he wrote that? You think he'd like prepared that shit? Or is he just like, right? Straight off the dome, you know what I'm saying? Mix tape Wayne level of shit. He's like, nah, bro. Just put me in the booth. Steve don't, Steve, don't ruin Luton speech, bro.

I'm not going to ruin Luton speech. I was like, it's so good. He was not out there taking no. Steve saw one of his own having a moment. He's like, not on my watch. Not, yeah. Don't ruin Luther's speech, bro. Like, Luther was reading off teleprompter or like the lady that works in the shop was behind him going. Where he's got like the notepad.

Sunrise that will never see. That's his life. That's his life he's talking about. Go ahead, Joan. I'm sorry. Now, you're straight. And in that moment, you're just like, yeah, this is real life. Like, this is what we're here for.

And even with all that, in this same episode, we still got one way out. One way out. One way out. One way out. One way out. You got to think about it. You know how that Lutheran speech was so good, so clever, so well done. You forget that 15 minutes ago, Andy Circus was in that booth.

You forget that Andy Circus and Diego Lunar were carrying. We're putting the people on their backs to get them out of that prison. What an episode of television. We're lucky. I'm so, I feel so lucky to exist at the same time as this show. Thank you, Tony Gilroy. You didn't have to bless us like this. And yet here we are.

So let's do this. So we've talked about Luther speech. We've jumped the document a little bit. A lot of it. A lot of it. Okay, okay. So because the speech is so good that we're forgetting that there are like, like Jomey's point, other fantastic moments from this, almost every single scene, we get, every single scene is a fantastic moment. You know, we do go back to Ferris really quickly.

wait, Kathleen's whole world is Fares, right? Cassidy's here. So we do go back to Farris really quickly, and so there's not much there. We do get a great scene with Mom Mothma. I have some thoughts on it. Sorry, I didn't put them in the Mayn Night Manifist. We're going to talk about that.

We're going to talk about that a little bit later. But in terms of things that stuck out, question, before we move off our immediate reactions, which, of course, we were blown away about the speech, was this the best episode so far? Hell, yes. Yes. Yes.

Absolutely. Which is insane to think about because like it's like literally what's the best episode of Andor? The last one we saw. Like that's been the answer every time. Wait, so can I ask this? This is a spoiler for our Black Panther Wakanda forever. Am I so crazy now for saying Andor's top three, Star Wars? Hmm.

I mean, we got to see. No, you're not. I say, I feel like it's in the conversation. Yeah, we got to see the whole thing. So let me ask you. let's put a pin in that and then come back to it let's let's put a pin in that and come back to it all right but i feel you though you though you you might have had a fucking scream i feel you in terms of this being the best episode so far like to see if said we say it every week but i remember

somebody on twitter was like man just finished episode three this is the best thing i've ever seen we say that for every episode i like but it's It's literally the last one that we saw. It's like, after the eye, we would get something like this. It doesn't get better at all. Yeah, this is, this is it right here. This is great. If they don't give me anything more than this, I'm okay.

I love it. I'm in. And for them every single week, it's just like, we just get started, baby. We just get started, baby. It's great, man. I'm loving the show, man. There's nothing else that's saying. Before we get off, instant reactions, I do I have to ask,

do you think like some of the other Star Wars creators? Like, do you imagine if you, if you was working on like another show that came out and then they like gave you some screens like yo you want to see what we're working on with Andor I'm so pissed I'd be like fuck this but you know what I don't think they want to do this well I think Gilroy is I think the reason why

Gilroy is so successful at doing this is because he wants to I don't think the other Star Wars creators want to do and I'm not talking about want to make a good show they all want to make a good show but like they want to be they don't want to be knuckleballers. They want to be outside of the thing.

They want to throw fastballs. They want to give you the same Star Wars feeling that you've always had. And some of them are successful in doing that, right? Mandalorian is successful in giving you that same Star Wars situation where a Jedi stays the day or where it's about all these interpersonal relationships

and it's kind of that's it in a different way. Asook is probably going to want to do that in a different way. I don't think they want to do what he's doing. I think the reason why Gilroy's shit is working so well is because he is seeking to do something totally different. You know what I mean? So I don't know if they would be jealous.

You hit it right in the head, man, because Gilroy's been very public about the fact that, like, Disney has been courting him ever since Rogue One to make a show, to make a Star Wars show involving Andor. And they've been pitching him on different scenarios, and he had actively been disinterested in the types of fare that Disney was interested in giving him. So in his response to Disney, after all of this time,

he's just like, I don't like any of this, this is what you should do, and basically wrote a treatment for what Andor is now. And then that allowed him to basically get carte blanche creatively to make the show that he wanted to. And it's, I think his lack of interest in the typical Star Wars fair that we get that allowed him to make some, something that's this incredible because we've never seen something like this. And he is

actively interested in only giving us something that is interesting to himself. And I loved it. I've loved every second. Do you guys remember Star Wars Galaxies? Is that a Power Rangers spin off? Power Rangers lost galaxies? Galaxies? No, Star Wars. That's the online game? Yeah. Online game. Were you like the MMO? It was like a, the big MMO. Okay. Yeah, that was the first MMO that they did. Yeah. Right. So like back in the day, there was Star Wars Galaxies. and we all were going to live in the Star Wars universe and all of this stuff. It was great.

I loved it. It was what we had. You know, I'm looking at this shit right now. God damn. Man, what are these graphics? Shut up,

this was like when Wow, like, was first popping off and everybody was making an MMO so that they were like, actually, wait, I apologize,

this actually don't look that bad. What year was this? 2003. Okay, this don't look bad. Continue. Early 2000s or something like that. So, you're trying to get a character in Star Wars Galaxies

and a lot of people wanted their character to be force sensitive because everybody wanted to be a Jedi. You know what I mean? Everybody wanted to be a Jedi. But I started to have a lot of respect for the people who didn't want that. for people who wanted to be like bounty hunters or smugglers or entertainers or traders or bartenders or whatever, who just wanted to really exist inside of the lore and didn't have to be a force sensitive, right?

And didn't have to be all of that stuff. I was like, it takes more than what we know than what, it takes us, it takes more than what mystified us as children about this law. to continue to expand the world into being a rich world. That's why I think everybody has their job. The expansion of the more lyrical parts of Star Wars is incredibly important.

I want to see more Jedi stories. That's why tales from the Jedi or tales of the Jedi, like it captivated me so much. I want to see more of that stuff. But somebody had to do this work. Like this part of it, the grimy shit, like somebody had to do this work. And I think that's the hole that was missing.

Nobody was trying to do this. Everybody was trying to be, like they always say, like, I wanted to meet George ever since I was two years old. And I drew up, like, nah, somebody had to come in and go, look, there's parts of this universe

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Can we just say and or getting into Kino's face like, don't punk out. It is time. What a way to start that episode. It was like, I was like, what the fuck? I thought this was like the next day, but it turns out it was like 60 seconds after the last episode where they're just like waiting to go back to their cells.

And they're like, you got to fuck. Like, it's right now. Yeah. Like, they have a situation that he's gone. Ulav has died. And there's going to be a new guy. And it's our chance to, look, you now know that we're not getting out of here. So another thing that the show does so well is just kick the viewer and the rest of the characters in the ass with this unshakable reality.

like the same way that we felt when it was we were like wait he's going to jail for that is the same way that keynote should have felt knowing that everything he was is alive this is what you have to do this is the way out can you do it is what the is what the show's asking them and then from there we just out of here charles i mean here's the thing i also want to say what i loved about this prison break is like if you watch enough prison movies or enough prison TV shows. Sometimes you don't ever get that fear of when the prison break is about to happen.

Like, people are going to get, are either going to die, there's danger to this. And throughout this episode, the tension of like you realizing, oh no, this is, they're being real.

Everybody we've grown to love. All of these different characters are not going to make it. Nobody, like, it's not going to be a 100% success rate. Everybody's signing up for this thing is doing it, knowing full well,

that I'm fighting for the whole. Like, it was beautiful when you're seeing the other prisoners go to the other floors and be like, yo, we're freeing you. Take the guns. It's time.

Let's go. I felt for every single prisoner who got shot, I was, it hurt. I was like, fuck, that man's not getting that. Fuck, this man. And by the time you do get to

to Kino, that's the cherry on top. We're like, you realize the level of sacrifice that people had to go through just so all of these people could get out. That's, but that's the show, though. When I saw the, when I saw the water dripping down.

Oh, yeah. That's literally hope dripping down to the next group of guys. That's, that's what Star Wars is. That's what this show is doing. The show is doing, hey, somebody had to do the heavy lifting for you to push the emperor into the thing. Your destiny is not just made by you. in order for you to have your destiny,

in order for you to have your freedom, somebody has to get shot trying to attack a prison guard. I knew that that black guy was going to die. You called it. I knew that he was going to die. Really quick, we got to do this as the resident black nerd podcast out there. There's a lot of great black nerd podcasts out there.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm not discounting. Y'all are doing great work. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I just want to say. Right. This show does I have a good track record? We're killing all black dudes.

Nah. Because, bruh, like, the minute he starts running up the shit, I'm like, he's out of here. Like, it's him and Cassie, and I'm like, well, we know who's living. I Google, no, I Google Gilroy to see if there was any questionable shit. I did. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. Bro.

Yes, I did. Like, when that dude got killed, I was like, you went flying, by the way. Let me just make sure. Because this is like getting a little, because it seemed like somebody would stop this. Like, you know, on the crew or whatever. So, like, hey, I don't know if you know, but like, we'll milling and losing streak here.

Maybe we should switch this up. Is this the third black dude that we've seen die, get shot? Yeah, bro. It's rough. It's grim. Right. The prison break, it's great. and Cassian and Kino have that moment.

We see it. Cassian sets it to Kino right after they see Ulaf die. And then when Kino's given the speech, he repeats it back to him. I'd rather die trying to take them down than die giving them what they want. Bar. Bar. Bar. And we see Kino, he's struggling at first.

Like, first he's like, I don't know if I can do it. Cassian's like, it's got the best you got? It's got to be you. You know, you're the guy who sets the tone. You're the guy who brings out the best in all of us. If it's, if it's not you, it's not going to get done, you know? And, and, you know, he digs deep. And he channels some of Cassian, they literally, what Cassie told him.

And he rallies the entire group of workers together against the, the baby. Who, by the way, we're in a closet hiding. We're afraidy cats. That was great. I'm gonna keep it real with y'all if I was one of the guards I would have said fuck this shit I'd start handing out the guns too

I'm like yo they don't pay me enough for this shit also can I just say really quick as well the little thing that happened where I was just like this is so genius is that these prisoners have been stripped of so much of their humanity and we've seen it for the last three episodes and when they're walking like the PA system

is like all right y'all there's no more communicating even as the day crew and the night crew are seeing each other. Like, if you've ever worked a job, like, I've worked many a job where, like, I was, like, the 5 a.m. person while I was the person that was leaving at 2 a.m. And, you know, you chop it up with whoever is coming in after you. Kind of tough-ass life did you have, nigga. God's darned.

Well, this nigga pulled himself up by his bootstraps like a motherfucker. Let's just say they did not want a nigger on those, uh, I don't know, registers at Old Navy. They like, look at these boxes, bro. Jesus. Sorry. Sorry, bro. But you have to think about, like, how the level of, like, you're not even human

anymore if your captors are literally like, you can't even communicate with each other anymore. Like, we're squashing this shit. And that clued me into, I'm like, oh, the guards are really scared. Like, Cassian is right. They know that it's only going to take one. conversation for this powder keg to explode. So there's something else here.

When we talk about the prison break, it's, it's, if you're going, so the empire is so arrogant and so short-sighted that they think fear can, fear is the only ingredient needed to achieve all their goals. We've seen this before in the real world, right? we've seen this before like there's bullies that are around and don't get me wrong some of them bullies will beat your motherfucking ass you should tell my um my nephews and stuff like you just gotta attack the bully i'm like okay well look you guys see it on the thing that sometimes you pop the bully in the bully cowers but i'm like it's gonna be some of those bullies that you go pop and they're gonna be like let's get busy so just make sure you're ready to get busy all right but there are bullies and are people who use fear to control And once that fear is gone, it's gone. Once the veneer, no disrespect to Mike Tyson, but once people stopped being afraid of him,

once it was like, oh, this is a guy that knocked him the fuck out. It was like, there's a way to beat him, go in there and don't try to survive, try to win. That is the difference that what we saw here. These guys were trying to survive inside of there because they thought that that was their only option. Yeah. It turned out that wasn't an option. Nobody was going to survive. No one was going to survive, right?

So when surviving was taken off the table, they had to win. And when they had to win, they needed somebody. And this just shows you about Cassing. We haven't talked about what this specifically means about Cassian's character. Cassian's character is determined on surviving. He's determined on finding a way around shit. And he's just, he's not a cuck. He's not somebody that is going to, I mean, he's not.

He's not a cuck. Cassian is not a cuck. He's not wide-eyed looking to the stars for his next adventure. He's like, yo, how the fuck we're going to get out of here? Like, seriously, like, he's not, he's not, it's real, it's tangible. This building has fallen apart.

They're not listening to us. Pick your head up and pay attention to the signs there's a way out of this. And if you were going to fight a rebellion, that's who you need. You need all the other stuff, but you also need somebody that goes, hey man what's the best way to win like when he walks into them and he walks in there and he's

he's looking at um he's looking at val and the other black guy who can't remember his name they killed the brother after two episodes but they're looking at them and he goes and he's looking at them as like you guys don't know what you're doing he's like I'm gonna fly it he's so he's mad that they don't have a solution it's like I'm going to do it I'm gonna fly it but you guys don't know what you're doing fuck it let's find the way out and With the prison break, I got to talk about it at the end. Your man can't swim. It's the toughest break I've seen.

Steve, have you seen a tougher break? Here's what kills me. He knew he couldn't swim. And he still broke out of prison. He still led that prison break. Well, he didn't know how they was going to do it. He might have thought there was going to be some jet keys. He knew there was one way out.

He said it. He knew the way out. I thought they were going to have some shit. I'm honest. I'm like, y'all, I really didn't know they was going to have to swim. There's no ships. I didn't know they was going to have to swim all the way to the thing.

Wait, can I get out, get a quarter flip really, really quick? Okay. Really, really quick. I love this show. This show is perfect. This is a perfect hour of TV. Don't get me wrong. Yeah.

I don't know if all that motherfuckers can swim that far. When I saw how far shore was. That's a far swim. I'm like, that's a far. If you've ever had to like swim, like I'm just like, dog. Well, I mean, like, we only saw two people on. the shore. We only saw two people

to be fair. Like that is not to say that everybody perish, but like they probably went their separate ways after that. Right. We only saw two people on the shore.

And there's got to be some kind of gnarly Star Wars creature in that water. I know it's some kind of fucking dragon. You know what I mean? Some sea dragon Star Wars is hiding from us. No.

See and Keino up there. Like just terrified. Like you've seen his eyes. Like everybody's moving past and was like, I can't swim. No, I think his face said so much. Like, I feel like he genuinely was okay with knowing that he couldn't swim.

Because like, when Cassian said before, whatever happens now, just know that we made it. And, like, that's to say that even if you didn't make the swim out to shore, you're free. But here's the thing, even if Kino dies now, I think there is a power to dying on your own terms. And I think there's free. For sure. Yeah, he's free. And this is literally what I think a lot of, I think, a lot of, of this episode is interrogating to your point, then you're talking about like, yo, what's the empire

strips you of everything? Once you know you are going to die inside, there's no way out. Everything that was keeping these people in here was a fear of death. Once you know that your death is 100% going to happen if you don't do anything, it's like, I'm not afraid of anything. I would rather die of my own accord than die a slave. And that's what I think is like, Kino, like, even though it's so heartbreaking to see him, like, I can't swim. Hey, he's not a prisoner anymore. He's got a little bit of a smile on his face when he says that. And I'm like, fuck.

The question is, do you, do you jump anyway? I don't know. All right, here's the thing. I would joke. I would jump. I'll tell you why, because I got to take my chances that I'm going to figure it out. You know what I mean? I don't know.

Drowning sucks. Drowning is bad. Drowning sucks. I know, but it's mad guys down there that might be able to help you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I suppose. So, so I got to take my chances that, that I'm going to be able to figure it out. Or you go on some Jason Bourne shit. You grab the chopper. But you can't even go back through there because there's too many guys coming out now. I know. Yeah, it's like a flood of

dudes just coming out of the one side. Because here's the thing, I was going to say, is there any way that like, if you're in that situation, like, all right, I got to find some buoyant here. I got like 20 minutes. Like, can I jammy grade? I'm not McGiver. No, that's not that. He can't really go back and look at stuff because the guards are there. And once they'll come out, they'll just kill him anyway. Yeah. I'd rather die by laser, like laser shot than drowning. I feel like drowning's way more painful.

I'll tell you what I wouldn't want is that dude that got shocked while the floor was wet. That guy got it. Poor bass. Not everybody, you know, not everybody was going to make you. I know, but that was like, that was the worst one for me. I was like, God, ow. We're quickly, though. shout out to the homeboy, right?

Low-key, like, not the MVP, but like six-man-a-year, rookie of the year. The dude, the new guy on the floor. Oh, yeah. He got with the program real quick. He got with it real quick. So, that, man. Lucky fucking bastard. She's just like, oh, we're doing this?

All right, great. Exactly. Like, imagine, like, that's like, that's like your first day of school is the last day of school. It's great. You know what I mean? Well, you die, though. Yeah. He got guys.

But, wait, though, this is actually a important question before we get off this. If we're all in Narkina 5, be honest, are you one of the first motherfuckers who's like, yeah, it's a prison riot? Or are you, like, at the back being like, I just kind of want to see how y'all deal with this real quick. And if it's going well, like, I'll come with you. Never one of the first. I watched them Civil War movies. And I see them like, I see, like, the guys on the front, like, rushing out. And I'm like, you got to be a real G to be one of them, motherfuckers.

I'm in the middle. Like, fight your way through with all the muskets or whatever. You're like the third person to get the gun. Fight your way through. And I'm watching, you know, I'm watching like Game of Thrones, right? And everybody's fighting. Yeah. They're so excited to fight, right?

They're so excited to swing a big sword at each other. And I'm thinking to myself, you know, if it's me head up with one guy, I'm like, hey. We don't got to do this. Like, we don't got to. I want to get run over by a horse. It's like, we don't got to do this, man. Like, look,

you go back over there with your side. I'm over here. If you come over here, I'm going to kill you, but who are we fighting for? So John, forget his family, castles back.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I can't do Battle of the bastards. Like, if I see that shit, I'm like, yo, it's fine. Like, I'll live to fight another day.

That's why I have so much, respect for members of the military. I knew guys that I came up with and they wanted to go over there and they were like, or like Pat Tillman. That's like courage and honor and devotion. I can't even understand because people are like, man, you're not mad. You don't want to go over there and do something?

I'm like, no. I want to support you. You know what I mean? Like, no. Every time I watch a movie, I see like, I see like eight dudes. get beat up, right? And, like, it's one at a time. And if I'm like the knife, the 10th dude, I'm like, hey, man,

he beat all of us. I'm going home. There's no point. Like, he kicked all the y'all. He kicked all the guys. He could definitely beat nine guys. Exactly. Like, why about here, bro?

Let me just, I'm a clock out. I'll see you all on Monday. You feel? The midnight boys. That's me. Cowards. Okay. This is why we'll never, we'll never get at our

Narcina 5. Yeah. No, no, no, no. We'll let the water drip down and we'll be like, hey, all right, great. I would be with the plan. Don't get me wrong. I will be with the plan. I just have other skills.

You know what I mean? Like, I would be with the plan. You getting the snacks for everybody once we get to shore? Be like, all right. The orange slices, because we're going to need some calories. You got a whole cooler ready. You got to get the electrolytes back in you. You know what I'm saying?

You're the guy with like the Gatorade table at the marathon. You're just like, yeah, everybody. Keep going. Behind her eating a Snickers ball. These niggles crazy. So I do want to say one more thing. Cassian. A lot of shows have Cassian get behind the mic and deliver that speech.

Yeah. Cassian knows that's not him. At least at this point, we see some stuff later on. Cassian knows that's not him. And he also knows just like the instinctive way that he knows how to be destabilizing. He knows who's best suited to do that. He knows who's been doing that. He knows whose job it's been to communicate with all these prisoners.

He knows who should be doing that. And he's pumping him up. That's all you got? Give me some more. Give me some more. All right. Mom Mothma is in a situation. Okay.

This Davoskolding guy is a fucking freak. It's a piece of work. Good fit, though. God, man, he was so clean. I was not expecting him to be clean. I was expecting him to come in there. I thought it was going to be like a gangster looking like... Yeah, I thought he was going to be like a tony.

It was like, no, no, he's clean. Yeah, nah, he was so clean. He was in there just talking that shit. I place is old. I like new shit. You know what I'm saying? I thought the scene with my mothma was very affecting because everybody has to sacrifice everything. To get the job done.

Luton tells us about his sacrifice. We see what Cassian's going through. We see with some of just the people that are under the thumb of the empire are going through. But we've seen that Ma'amotham's life is uncomfortable. But now we see that in order to make this rebellion go, she might have to sacrifice the one thing she never thought she would, which is to break her daughter free of a tradition that has obviously led her to a life where she's less happy than what she wanted to be. I will say that the genius thing about the Mon Mothma, to your point, what happens is like, this happens before Lutheran speech.

And what are the first four words that Luton says? He says, after Lonnie asked him, what do you sacrifice? He says, calm, kindness, kinship, and love. That speech is so important because in that moment, what does Davos say to Mon Mothma when he finally asked, hey, I don't want money. I want your daughter to marry my son. I, like, this is, this is the power I want. In that moment, Ma'an Mothma has to make a decision. The decision that Luton has already made, Lutheran told y'all, I gave up kinship. I gave up love. At Davos looks at Ma'amah, and he's like, you lie. Like, that's the first, and that's the first time you

lie today saying that this is off the table. Because he knows to win this rebellion, it takes people, like Luthan, and this rebellion is going to corrode people in the worst way. And I love this where this ends up in the episode, because you realize, oh, Mon Mothema's not Luton yet. And that's the problem. That's why Luton is always looking at her like, yo, you can't have it both ways. You're either all in or you're all out. And that's like, that is, shows you how just much they're operating, because we see how well Luton, even in that, second episode, I think, or it was the third where Luton has to do his little thing when he's changing, where he's like, he's been to people for so long, and Mon Mothma's not good at it yet.

You see in that moment she's not good at it yet. People can read her. She still has things she loves. I just think this was brilliant. By the way, he's too skilled at what he does to ask her for something that he knows she's not going to do. You don't think she's going to do it? No, no, no, no, no. He knows she'll do it.

Yeah. He wouldn't come in there with, like, he wouldn't come in there with something he didn't think she was capable of because he seems to be a result's driven man. So when he, when he puts it out there, he knows that that's something that she's willing to do. First of all, they've already showed their hand to such a degree, like that they have to be desperate. So bit boys, what did y'all think? incredible. It's the idea that Mon is still trying to like wiggle her way around this without getting her hands dirty, without trying to go entirely by the book to just, it's just money. Like why can't I just like, why can't this be a simple solution or why can't this be something that like we don't have to deal with somebody like this? Because she refuses this in the, in the episode prior. And you see so much weight on her face from that offer because she knows. that she is the product of an arranged marriage. She does not want to do that to her daughter. She really doesn't.

The type of coercion but also active decision making that is going on with the other two that are going, with Tay and him that are trying to convince her that this is the right answer, she is finally going to see that this is going to have to be something that comes from her, some way to get her hands dirty that won't involve her family, that she'll give up that family.

She'll give up that kinship, that love that Luthonso talks about. It's a real, like that's going to come to a head, I feel like, in these last few episodes where Maughn Mothema really makes that decision

about what does her family mean to her and does she outright abandon them or does she sell them up the river for the rebellion? I mean, yeah, for Mon Mothma, it's put up or shut up time right now. That's what it is what it is. You know, the walls are closing it in.

Like, Are you prepared to do for the rebellion? You know, Van Charles, you said it. Luther's on another level right now. She's not there yet. That's not where she is. And unfortunately, Luton gets things done, right? Even though he'll be like, Alden was at you?

Nah, man, I'm not me, man. That was so smart of him, by the way. He's like, we were invited, but we don't drive based on luck. But I was like, that was you, huh? He's like, nah, man, that was nice to home me down the street. They got lucky. Yeah. No, but this is, we're going to see the next,

got two more episodes left. Is Mon Mothma ready for the challenge? When push comes to shove, can she deliver? Can she do what she has to do? I mean, she loves her family to some extent. Like, you know, I don't think her husband, not at that, no, no, but her giving her daughter for the rebellion?

him. I'm so lot to ask. Wait, curse question. I have to ask y'all. Don't lie. Don't fucking lie on Mike. I got to ask you.

So if we're in a galaxy far far away, if you, let's say you, like a senator on the level of mom, mothma, and somebody comes to you. And we're like, I want an arranged marriage

and you know that this could save the galaxy. Are you more likely to agree if your kid has bad vibes? Like, let's say your kid is like, like, like, we don't like that kid that much.

He's like super funny. Like, let's say you got like Lil Nas X as a son and he's like, life of the party, always making you laugh. Like you're like, all right, cool. Like good vibes. Good hang. Versus like, your kid got like the worst TikTok. Always just like, just sucking the air out of the room.

You're like, God damn, your vibes are so bad. Which would it be a little bit more easy for you to be like, that's so horrible. I'm just asking you. I'll ask you the question. At the same time, it's a great question. Yeah. Oh.

Yeah. It depends. on how, because her kid has bad vibes. Her kid's got bad vibes. Yeah, but, no, but I mean, think about it. Let's be honest, right? You have to think about how,

how certain are you in this rebellion, right? Because it's really just shot the dark. You don't know if this can work. It can ultimately backfire. You can do all the planning, all the work, put in all the hours, and ultimately fail, right? Ultimately, just be like, whoops.

I think if the kids, yeah, you're probably a little bit more apt to do it. Can I ask a question? question about mom motham's husband okay is he visiting brothels oh well because of you've met my husband several times before that line oh yeah is he buying love it from bavos cold all right let's not kink shame there's nothing wrong with buying loving nobody nobody said that i'm just saying i want to make sure i want to make sure that ain't this and to say that never like never said that i'm just saying it seems like mom mothman knows she's like i've met your husband a bunch of times she's like yeah

it seems like there's something is like and we're not talking about it's like and we're not talking talking about that. The show is a stripping club? He's going up. He's going crazy. He's going to, okay. So it's because he goes, is that something that we're going to say? No, we'll need to talk about that.

We need to talk about all the people. So, Ma'amath's family, she got a kid with bad vibes. Husbands that's probably stepping out. She's married to Charlie Sheen. So. To be fair to the kid, to be fair to her, not the greatest set of parents. Right. Like, let's be honest.

My mom's supposed, she's a little distracted. She got her own thing on. All right. And the dad's a dud. Let's be honest. No, but let's be honest, too. I hate when we all like, when we see a rich kid and we like, yeah, but look at the parents, I'm like, bro, give me, give me, like, a couple million.

Give me 50 million to grow up with. I'll raise my goddamn self. Like, come on. This is, this is struggle Charles talking up at 5 a.m. Give me a couple million. I'll raise myself. Up at 5 a.m. Now I'll ask y'all, y'all, y'all would say, if you could do it all over, you'd be like,

if God's like, hey, you want to start life with 50 million? No, man, I can't. Was there any point that you thought Luther was going to kill Lonnie? Seriously? No. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I thought he was. I thought he was for sure. I thought he was going to kill Lonnie. He was nervous. He was in, he was within his right, not within his rights, but like he had a reason to do so if he thought he was going to really leave. Yeah. It was just about he just killed 50 other guys. He was going to let 50 die just for this got to stay.

Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, the way he was talking. to him nice. And, like, he talks about a couple times. Like, we can't let you go. We can't spare you. Like, we know Luton, like, at his best is, like, just scraping by, right? Like, taking, picking up scraps and making things happen.

That's what he does. And Lonnie is an important cog in his system, right? You can't lose that information. You just can't. You can't lose them if you feel like he's going to defect. But I mean like I go back to doing his other shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I didn't feel like Lonnie was going to snitch, right? He said, if it's a trap, press the thing, da-da-da, Lonnie was like, no, I'm cool.

You know, I just want out because like I, he didn't, I mean, he just don't want out of being with Luther. And he was going to get out the ISB as a whole, right? Yeah. And Luther was like, my boy, it's not, it's not really how this thing's going to go because I need you without you. This whole thing doesn't work. Like, I cannot. Like, that's the genius of that scene. is that like he doesn't need to threaten him

not that like he needs to like because he thinks that he'll threaten him by like oh you got a daughter now like you must be very pleased and all the things like and we think that like okay like he's got leverage on him he'll you know he'll do what he says or else he'll kill him he doesn't really need to threaten him because if he gets

why Luthin is sacrificing everything like his sacrifice by comparison is insignificant like yeah, you got a kid. Yeah, you got six years under your belt trying to pretend that you had a double life. But I've been doing that for years and I don't have anything. It's all I have. And we're looking out for you to make sure that your daughter has a father still. I'm giving up 50 guys for that. And we're making sure that he doesn't need to threaten his life to make everything clear. And a lesser show would do that. A lesser show would be. like you're getting you're getting in line here. But instead it's a reflection about what Luton gives for all of this and he puts him in his

place. Steve reminded me of something. What's also beautiful about this episode, but shows you like how much of himself Luton has had to lose is think about why this prison riot started. Because the empire killed 100 people because they didn't want shit getting out. I think about what Lutthus says to Lani. He's like, fuck Krieger, fuck his 50 men. I'll gladly sacrifice 50 men.

And that kind of shows you how much Luton, to his point. Let me get what he says. What does he say about the empire? I'm forced to use the tools of my enemy. Yeah, I'm forced to use the tools of my enemy. Think about that. In that moment, we're seeing Luton say, yo, I'm exactly like the empire.

If Luton was in, if Luton had to sacrifice 100 men to make sure that the rebellion, and goes off without a hitch. He'd fucking do it. And that's what I think is so beautiful about kind of like the full circle of that moment is just like, shout out Krieger, shout at his men, but

Ruth had built him. Yeah. Krieger's men will be dying to make sure she has a father. And to think of all the things, to think of all the things that he is possibly offering him, he's like, I'm giving you Deirdre, I'm giving you, like, he'll give us

like the seemingly end game of the show to be like, hey, these are people that are chasing you. These are the things that they're going to be setting up. These are all the people that are going to die in case we don't do anything. And they're like, perfect. That's an easy call. Everybody's going to be thinking none the wiser.

Like, we're good. Dedra episode. Yeah. No, Cyril. Thank God. No, serial. Speaking of that, where do we go? This was 10.

We got 12 of these, right? Yeah, we got two more. So, for some reason, you know, we've been doing three episode arcs here. No, this one was four, right? This one was this one for? This one was four. Well, if we, if we count the three that we've been on Narcina five and then the one in space Miami that was like a bit of a middle ground episode between the first job and then this, we've kind of had like a middle episode and then like an initial three. So when we've had that 12, like, I don't know, we've got a lot of a bit of ground to cover. Like we've got to have Cassian. Cassian's got to make contact with Luthon. somehow, probably. You should, right? Because also, think about it, we're going, aren't we going into the future in season two? So they have to tie everything up.

Yeah, because they said, I think this is that Star Wars celebration. Like this season is going to be like one year. And the season two is going to be like the next four years. Yeah. On and on. So, yeah, these storylines got to wrap. I mean, we still don't, I mean, we saw Center out there in Ferrix.

Yeah, we saw her. She's still, it looks like she's being, it looks like she's being followed. by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Right. And so there's a lot to cover these next two episodes. Biggs got a, Tom's going to have to happen. Yeah. Wait, can I ask this? Because the last two episodes are written by Tony Gilroy. Let's make bets. Oh, man. Midnight production. I bet they're going to be very good. Yeah, no, but here's the thing. He said one way out is the best episode to end or so far. Do you think Tony Gilroy with the last two episodes? That's a good question. Can top it.

Probably. I think Tony might be like This was all cute I'm gonna put my foot into this shit It's just like There's no reason for me to To say no Yeah every episode has been better

Than the last one we saw So I guess yeah Let's keep it going I don't know how they're gonna do it though I really like I want to say no But it seems silly to do so Like I want to say I really want to be like come on man

There was too much It can't be better than this But it seems stupid to do that right Yeah, like every episode has felt like a season finale of a show that we've been watching for all these weeks. Like, okay, like here we go. Early, two early Andor rankings real quick. I'm going to ask one of these questions, Steve. One of them?

Okay. Which one, if I'm only going to ask one. Wait, because do we want to ask that before we see all of it? Because then we can, we could spend the last and or episode ranking like Clone Wars, Mandelorian and Rebels. You know what, let's not jump. Let's do something. Let's do something at the Midnight Boys. Yeah, because let's hold off on that.

Let's do something to Midnight Boys never do. I'll keep these three questions in the pocket, though. Keep these three questions in the pocket. These are really good. These are really good. All right, so our shows are questions that we're going to do coming up. Is this one of the best shows of the year? I want all of the mob and the writers out there to think about this.

Is this one of the best shows of the year, number one? Is this the best Star Wars show ever? Guys, this is what we do. Think about it. Number three, is, Is this one of the best Star Wars things ever that includes Star Wars galaxies as well? Shout out to all of the galaxies players back in the days. Well, if galaxies is in the question of conversation.

So think about that. And we're going to cover that probably what? You guys think that would be good to do after the finale, maybe? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Nally. Yeah. So we got two weeks, then we'll do that.

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It has an additional production. Charles, take us out. Andor is one of the best shows of all time. Van Mothma's daughter needs a lot more clout. And when we escape this bitch, you better know. One way out. One way out.

I have no problem with it, but I will say that some of the most ill-adjusted kids that I knew were like the kids that had all of that money. Because we could be over there at the house eating their snacks, like playing all of the different things, playing arcane cabinets, be like eating. Like, why are you over there crying? This shit is awesome. Like, what are you, why are you over there? Like, you know, I haven't seen my dad in three months.

He's with his new girl. went to this, they went brick and ridge. Everybody in Louisiana's to go to. Okay, we might be getting a little too real for some people. Just listen. Well, I'm serious. Like, he went to, he took his new wife to Breckenridge. I'm like, man, fuck her. Fuck him too. You got cookies and fucking

saying this bitch. I don't give a fuck. I think I love you. How did you get invited to these houses, man? You was too honest. Because I was in the gifted program. So all of my, like, I went to school with like the governor's son. You know what I mean? So all of my classmates were white and they had

these different set of problems. It'd be like, I go over to their shit. I'd be like, God damn. You got a motorized scooter. Let's hit the streets with this bitch. And there's no crime in your neighborhood. We can ride this motherfucker to like nine. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, we can ride this bitch all over your neighborhood. They're crying. Like, man, I want to talk. My dad and my mom get the divorce. Fuck them. Look what we got. Man. Come on.

Why don't you fucking wake up? The world is your oyster. I got to go back and the lights go be cut off in my chair. Like, stop bitch. Two vans credit. Two vans credit. Have y'all ever gone over to your white friend's house? You realize they got like a movie theater in their basement.

You're like, what the fuck is happening, bro? It's like you go to the living room and it's like, we don't watch movies in here. It's like, where do we watch movies? movies at. We watch movies in the movie room. I'm like, okay, let's go down there. Be ass fucking speakers.

And they're like, man, your parents are calling. They say to ask what time you want to get picked up. Never. Tell them this is silver spoons now or different strokes. I live here. Wow. The mom brings the toastine like piece of shits.

I'm like, brother. Brendan Ayyub. Shout to Brendan Ayyub. Shout to Brendan Ayub. His dad was Richard Ayub, the Attorney General of the state. Like when I first played Golden Eye, I go down there and I'm like, what is this game? Oh, this is way before. We just go to his crib and play Golden Eye all the time doing whatever we want to do.

Mom comes down there, asks us what she's doing. Get out, Mom. I'm like, oh, all right. It's like, what are you guys doing down there? What's that smell? Hey, my friends are over. You're embarrassing me. I'm like, yo, this is the shit, dog.

This is the best. The fuck she just told his mom to get out of my fucking business. But I don't know what Brennan's up to now. Brennan was an editor. So these guys are doing great. For Charles and Van, was it? I don't know where, how it went with y'all. But for me, the weirdest part was always like, you meet somebody's parents.

like, oh, man, thank you, Ms. Johnson. Like, please, please. Call me Melissa. Call me Melissa. I'm all the time. Call me Terry. I was like, I was like, yo, what? I'm not doing that.

Call me Terry. What do you guys want to eat? You want me to run up to like Copeland's and Mike Anderson's and get you guys something? Like one of the best restaurants in town? I know, we had that last week. I'm like, nigga, I wasn't here. Go up there. I wouldn't hear.

Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, they want to, they like to come to. And then sometimes, like, gray in them, they would like to come to my neighborhood, right? Like to come down there, Gardia and, like, hang out. Like, I want a po-boy from Rainbow. I'm like, yeah, five-dollar po' boy from Rainbow. Best pub-boys ever.

I'm like, that's great. Come up here. You can come down here and hang out. I'll go live over here. Every time you walk up and down the street, niggas are run your pockets, left and right. Anyway, I'm telling I was kind of

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