The Ringer-Verse - 'Avengers: Doomsday' Cast Announcement | House of Midnight

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

The dust has settled, and the chairs are lined up. The House of Midnight members have assembled to give you their thoughts and reactions to the massive 'Doomsday' casting announcement that dropped yesterday. They break down the surprise names, as well as who is left out, which may bring hints for what's to come in the massive event from the MCU. Hosts: Van Lathan, Joanna Robinson, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: John Richter, Steve Ahlman, Stefano Sanchez, and T Cruz Social: Jomi Adeniran Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's true. On today's show, though, we couldn't not do it. Huge Marvel announcements yesterday. Gigantic cast reveal for Avengers Doomsday. It took 24 hours. 24 hours. Right.

And we will be reacting to it right now as a staff, a record label, and a crew. This happened on a, Wednesday Marvel live stream and everybody was talking about it. People that I didn't think we're going to be talking about it was talking about it. My mom sent me like a thing saying

did you know that Marvel is releasing the cast of Doom? And I'm like, Mama, stay focused. That broke containment though. If your mom knew about it, then that's a... What was the name on the chair that she was like, I got to tell then? Anthony Mackey.

Hell yeah. She didn't know that Anthony Mackey would be coming back. She was afraid. Wow, wow. After a brave new world, she can rest assured. She was concerned. So what we're going to do now is getting to the names. Chuck, I want to see if you can read these names off in semi-rapid succession.

Okay, I can do it. You got it? These are 27 names. This is the cast so far because they did. There were some rumors that there's supposed to be more people. Definitely more people. Definitely more people. But these are the ones we have.

Chris Hemsworth, Thor. We have all of the. All of Fantastic Four. Vanessa Kirby. Then we go. Anthony Mackey, Sebastian, Stanitia Wright, Paul Rudd, Wyatt, Wattah, Eben Moss-Backarack, Simululu, Florence Pugh, Kelsey Grammer, Lewis Pullman, Danny Maramirez, Joseph Quinn, David Harbor, Winston Duke.

Hannah John Kamen, I hope I pronounce that right. Tom Hiddleston, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Allen, Allen Cumming, Rebecca Romagin, probably fucking rich. Romaine, Rebecca Romaine. Damn, it ain't smelled like that. James Martin, James Tato, Pedro Mestal. And last, last but not least, Robert Downey, Jr.

So we have a total, 27 cast members, seven X-Men, all four of the Fantastic Four, five if you include Doom, six of the Thunderbolts, three from Black Panther, two members of the Thor Collective, two from Captain America, Shang-Chi Ant-Man. Back to you, Van. What are you thinking? Five women total on the list. Five ladies, that's progress. Oh, shit. Now, a lot of podcasts claim to be MCU experts, but we actually have one. We do. A best-selling MCU author expert. We got Joe. Joe, when you saw these names, what did you think?

First of all, I think it was a great stunt. Like, we've seen things like this in the past. People were invoking years ago when we had to watch a block of ice melt to get the Game of Thrones release date. I was like blogging at the time, essentially, so I had to sit there and watch every drip. This was way better because you could just like walk away and come back and you're like, oh, another name. That's nice.

I have some questions. I'm really excited by what we learned. And I think there's some clear strategy behind how they're rolling out the names. Because, yeah, Downie posted on social, he's like, a great bench looks more like a row, like there's going to be another row of chairs of names that they're going to announce in the future. So I think it's important or interesting to think about

what message they want to get out today. this week. And the message is, we're doing old school X-Men. We're really want you to pay attention to the Thunderbolts movie The Fantastic Four movie.

We have some old names that you love. Hemsworth is here. That's O.G. Avengers. We're starting with Hemsworth. We end with Downey. So we're book-ending with veterans that you know and love.

And, you know, we haven't forgot about Shong Shih. Yeah, I think the Shong Shih thing was really interesting to me. Yeah. I was worried Alka Flina chair was going to follow. Oh, really? Me too.

Oh, boy. Let it go. Will there be dragons in Doomstay? Because let me tell you, who's slay. I was also, I'm glad we didn't get to Nairus either. They were just like, we're going to forget about all that. The most powerful person in the MCU? On Jomey's agenda, there's no one on this list that has only been on Disney Plus.

Yeah. Not a single TV-only person on this. But there were rumors that She-Hulk is going to be. She could, but she's not in this lineup. Do you think, okay. So if he says that this is a bench or it's a row and there'll be another row, who are the most likely heroes that weren't named yesterday to show up when they do another announcement? I think the most glaring omission has been in a Cumberbatch as Dr. Strange. Not only because he came out and was like, I'm not in the movie.

And then it was actually like, guys, I'm actually in this movie. because Dr. Strange, like him, his predigree as an actor, it makes sense for Dr. Strange. I guess he's not the Sorcero Supreme in the MC right now, but one of the most powerful magic users that they have in there to not be there. Benedict Guang also seems like somebody who should have made this run of announcements, but we'll see what it looks like in the future.

Also, none of the gals from the marvels, and I feel like that someone has to be coming because Spectrum... Oh, yeah. I mean, especially since Kelsey Grammer's there. Kelsey Grammer's there, so she's stuck in, I guess, what's going to be the X-Men universe. So I'm surprised. I'm just like, I feel like Kamala Khan, Spectrum,

Captain Marvel kind of have to be in this movie, almost, or at least some of them. At least some of them. I would say, here's what I'm imagining for the next row. If we're going to do the bookend with veterans thing again, you could have Cumberbatch on one end and Pratt on the other end. Ooh. Or if the rumors of Evans and Haley Atwell or whatever,

have them in the mix. And then you have the Young Avengers, the Champions, whatever they're going to call them. You could have those names in the row as well? You think the Young Avengers are getting play in this movie? Is there enough time for them? Well, I mean, it's a great question because we don't know how much screen time any of these people are going to have. True, true.

X-Men could be one scene. We don't know. I would imagine that Ian McAllen and Sir Patrick Stewart would probably have minimal screen time. I mean, a lot of people. Sorry, talked about it. I think a lot of these characters are showing up to die. Just to call these multiverses. I don't know how long, I don't know how long that sequence takes.

But they can't do what they did. They can't just do what they did in multiverse and badness again. They wouldn't do it again. Yeah. They wouldn't do that again. They wouldn't do that again. So if we still have this many names to announce, what does this announcement tell us about the scope of the movie?

Can't, because is there, if they're going to add, even 10 to 15 more actors or actresses. Like, are you getting to a point to where you can't pull it off? I have a feeling that, again, what you said about a lot of characters showing up to die. If we think about the more sustainable characters that could last post-secret wars and what could be the MCU going forward,

we might be seeing another row of names that are actually going to be the ones that we see further on down the line for the future of the MCU. These might be the things that are like highlighting what happens in Doomsday and then might be some of the old standbys. Like, I'm guessing that we would probably see the likes of maybe a Hugh Jackman in another announcement. Or somebody that could, like, get us into Secret Wars.

We don't have Orion Reynolds. We don't have anything that are, like, bigger names that would push the Secret Wars agenda and post-Secret War's agenda going forward. I see a lot of, this is what Doomsday is going to be, and that's about it. All the X-Men announced, no Wolverine. They saving that. Him and the Deadpool. No Hallie Barry.

That's Secret Wars. Working on the deal. If it's not Chris Evans who takes the Downey Roll in the next promo, I feel like the most likely are either going to be Chris Evans, Ryan Reynolds or Hugh Jackman. I feel like they're, and Toby, I'd add. I was half expecting Ryan Reynolds in his Deadpool costume to be the final chair. Yeah, like I'm expecting some type of level of like,

because what this kind of I got from this was, A, I think it's interesting that the groups of actors that they're going with because I'm assuming, and there's nothing against the actors, these are probably people that are going to be anchoring this movie, but you don't have to pay as much as a Chris Evans or a Robert Downey Jr. type,

where it's like most of the Avengers that we've gotten, it's going to be Anthony Mackey, Latisha Wright, Simuloo, Paul Rudd, I guess, would be in there, and who else would, from a solo movie was announced? Thor. Thor, so it's like, it's a mixture of like the people we know and then a lot of kind of unproven. Same thing with the Thunderbolts. I could see the Thunderbolts having a big role in this just because they're a little bit newer to Marvel.

They can have a lot of screen time. You don't have to be like, A, all of the ones we fell in love with be here for the next month. I'm not going to lie to you. The Thunderbolts getting a lot of love in that was wild to me. Not because, like partly because the movie has come out yet. we don't know how we're going to react to it. Like, do these people who have even survived the movie? But the first chair, after Sebastian Stan, being Wyatt Russell, I was like, all right, man.

That was a little. I was like, what's going on, man? Let's, let's, let's hang on. Then you see, like, Lewis Pullman, you see Ghost. And so it's like, okay, David Harbor. No taskmaster? No, well, all right. Taskmaster, obviously, it's clasper.

But it's not a secret. But I was like, I was like, oh, they're really buying it to Thunderbolts. They think they might have something here. Part of it, but it's also like because they're trying to beat the nostalgia only allegations. So the fact that Downey is like the center of this promo, right? Like Downey is the big anchor of this promo. And when he came out at Comic Con, everyone's like, wow, they're cooked. They don't believe in the future.

They're only looking to the past. That was them. Who said that? That was in me. You have a whole podcast. And so now that they're like Fantastic Four, our second to last name is Pedro Pascal. Fantastic Four, we care. Thunderbolts, we care.

This is a big deal. But I don't know that the Thunderbolts are going to have a huge role in this movie. Is it possible that the Thunderbolts will be your Avengers coming out of the Thunderbolts movie? I would love that. That's what the asterisk is about. Yeah. I would love that. Then it would make sense that maybe they survive this movie.

They get clapped up and then you have to put the Avengers Avengers back together. I don't want to do too much theorizing, but I am trying to figure out how all the toys are going to play together in the movie. I like, I mean, what we're going to want from this movie, same thing that happened with Infinity War is, we want putting the pieces together of what the story is in different places. So the fact that we have the X-Men over in a different world from the world that we know,

Fantastic Four, in theories, this is something we've talked about since the trailer, fleeing a world that's already been destroyed, right? They're in a different world entirely in their movie. So like, if their world gets destroyed at the end of the Fantastic Four movie,

they're fleeing that world into our world so they can tell us information about what it's like to have had your world collapsed. that X-Men world's not going to stay. So what it's like to be in a world that's on the brink of a collapse? And then like where are the thunderbolts going at the end of thunderbolts? Are they just going to be on Earth?

Or there's like there's a void thing in thunderbolts. Like where are the thunderbolts going to be? Are they going to be able to tell us something about what comes next when you're thinking about worlds colliding and collapsing, which is what this whole era of the multiverse is about? If all of those elements like occupy all of the movies that you just said that are leading up to doomsday, does that feel like it's a bit of narrative scaffolding that might be a bit too little too late because if I'm kind of your average Joe

that hasn't really checked in with Marvel since a lot of the things that were post-endgame and I'm just now hearing about Doomsday and that's the thing that's getting me most excited is this kind of like a thing in between Infinity War slash Endgame where I'm like we didn't really want to see Ant Man and the Wasp but we kind of had to see it

leading up to it just to see if there was something. I think that Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four are going to have to do a little bit of lifting. There's going to be a lift. There's going to be a lift between those two movies in terms of... I actually think even the release schedules of those two movies

obviously affected this announcement. Sure. Because they're going to shoot, yet we talked about this on The Midnight Boys, we're going to be getting set photos and all kinds of information and stuff. We're going to know who did or did not survive. Andrew Garfield's going to door-dash something

and you're going to be like, That's right. I mean, what a great way to find out, though. I think it also speaks to how because they had to pivot away from Kang and there wasn't a spine, there wasn't as much of a spine to this iteration of the storyline, it took me going back and being like, oh, one of the spines was like, who is going to be the Avengers all the way for Black Widow. You know, you're kind of getting these little teases in Captain America Brave New World. There's all like, would you leave the Avengers?

led by a government, and there's also the asterix of the Thunderbolts. So I could see maybe some of the heart of this movie kind of being like, who actually can stand in for the Avengers? And I think it would be funny if on one side you have like Bucky, who is like leading Vowles Avengers, and then you have Anthony Mackey who's like, these are the actual like heavy hitters. Because that's the question that I feel like keeps coming up in like all the stingers is like, when are the Avengers? Who are the Avengers?

Like, even Falcon and the Winter Soldier was kind of like, you got to get a bank loan? Like, you were an event. Like, so that's what I feel like, partially I'm kind of taking a look at. Did the live stream work? Yes. Your mom texted you.

Yeah. Okay. Absolutely. I mean, at first, I'm like, I'm getting ready to come into podcasts. And I see, I'm watching this live stream. And it's just Chris Hensworth's share. I'm like, all right, bro.

Like, this is not really moving me. But then you can see it on our podcast. Every time they drop a name, we're like, oh, hold on. We talk about it for like five minutes and then we move on. And then we just kept doing that for like six hours. That was fun. In the immediacy, I'm like, this is stupid. Why would you just show pictures of chairs?

But then if you stretch that out for the span of like five hours, then you get like every reactor, every streamer just sitting and waiting and watching and reacting with everybody else that's watching. And then we get to find out how many people don't know how to spell. Rebecca Remain's name. And it makes it like the NFL draft of the Avengers. It's great. I don't think they had like just dropped that in variety. And variety is just like, here's the cast left.

That's so lame. But then if you drag that out, it's really, really good. At first, I'm like, yo, I could just got a poster, you know, but just gave an email. Being online, interacting with people, it was a ton of fun. I mean, I think it maybe worked for our bubble. Like, I think it worked in terms of like them getting people to talk about it. I don't necessarily know if it worked. for the people who are like totally out on Marvel

or the people who used to go to like an Avengers film and were just like, oh, this seems like an event movie because part like it kind of reminded me of like the A24 Thunderbolts whole shit where I'm like some of this doesn't feel like it's coming from a place of confidence some of this is kind of feels like it's coming from a place of like do you feel like that ad definitely worked

which one the A24 Thunderbolts one like that that ad was for that ad was full that ad If you ain't seen the movies, then you don't give a fuck about that ad. You don't care. But for the people who saw those movies who know what that ad is trying to say,

they were definitely like, huh. Wait, so you think for someone who's really, really into A-24 movies and has essentially been like, fuck that comic book superhero shit, they're going to go out and watch Thunder Bros. I think it's talking to the Marvel Supergirl. I don't know that that's the case, but I don't know because who knows what gets anybody out to the movies these days.

But I do think that even having an ad that played to them made them feel included and a little powerful and like they were running shit, which probably connected them to that ad and that product a little bit more than it would have before. I think in my mind, they're kind of actually going to be playing to the diehards. and if the word of mouth from the diehards, when this comes out, is that it's actually good, the people that actually don't really care that much, is like, oh, well, my Marvel friend said that this is the good one,

so I'm going to see that one. It's not just that, it's that we haven't had, this is something we talked a lot, when we went on book tour, and when we were going on book tour, every person who interviewed us wanted to be like, so Marvel's done, right?

Tell us that Marvel's done, right? You feel like it's done, right? And something my co-author, Dave Gonzalez would always say, is like, until a movie that says, Avengers colon something fails, Marvel is not done. And that hasn't happened yet. And so there is a lot riding on this, obviously.

And I think that they're trying, I think they're so clever in this in pandering to the nostalgia of the X-Men. That gets a whole group of people who haven't seen a Marvel movie in a while, but they watched those X-Men movies growing up. And they're like, you got, you got McKellen for this? you're going to cart mackellen out so there's the nostalgia ploy mixed with the we have confidence in the rest of our 2025 releases ploy that's all together in the mix there and i think that's a really smart combination something that to keep in mind in terms of like who's in this movie who's not is how they put together the lineups for infinity war and end game which is because it's the same you know it's the rousseau's um it's McPhile if not Marcus um you know and it's it's most of the same exact team and it's it's most of the same exact team. And what they did is they had like playing cards with all the, all the characters on there, playing cards. And on the back were their salaries and a number of like there's a lot of factors in terms of it's not just story. It's like, what's our budget?

Okay, these are the salary numbers on the back of all the cards. Okay, we got to decide who like how much can we afford? Sort of similar to a draft, right? Like who can we afford to put on our team? So that's all in the mix inside of this. So if Hallie Berry's like, pay me what I'm worth, and they're like, you know, then Storm is not going to show up in this. And I think that like, so thinking about them laying out these playing cards and then from a storytelling perspective, then they talked about this a lot in terms of how they put Infinity War and Endgame together. You know, they're like, okay, which members of the Guardians of the Galaxy do we want to survive the snap?

Well, we think it'd be really funny to have rocket there and we think it'd be really funny to have Nebula there. We think those energies would really work well. You know what I mean? So it's just sort of like this combination. So like where does Shang-Chi go? Who is he interacting with in this lineup here? He's like the only one other than like Scott, but Scott's worked with these people before.

Shang-chi is the only one sort of like hanging out here with nothing to anchor him. Still learning how to be a superhero. He's not here. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No one's here. Nobody. I'm thinking about the post-credit scene of Shang-Chi. And he interacted with Wong.

He interacted with Mark Ruffalo. Over Zoom. Like, Brie Larson. Yeah. and none of them are in this movie so far. Yeah. So maybe they're in the next row. Maybe they really get announced later.

But yeah, there's nothing we, as far as we know, nothing angering him to this movie. Speaking of Infinity War, if in fact this movie asks this question on the Midnight Boys, but like I said, now we have Marvel expert here. You guys aren't Marvel experts. We didn't write the book. We had sellers.

If this movie follows a very similar pattern or something. similar thematic arc as Infinity War. And you get a bunch of heroes and then they die. And then you get a reformed universe in Secret Wars. And then you get your movie. Is that whack? Is the repetition of that same two movie arc something that people are going to be like, this is too repetitive for it to be compelling?

I mean, I think people have already online, have started like maybe complaining a little bit about this where I feel like since Infinity War endgame, I feel like we've been on one long treadmill of saying goodbye to these heroes and one, like just the X-Men alone between Last Dan, you know, Logan, Days of Future's past, Deadpool and Wolverine. I feel like I have said goodbye to the X-Men four or five times in the last 10 or 15 years. Similarly with the Avengers, I feel like, oh, I already said goodbye to these people. I felt like everything was like tied with a nice bow. And I think when people the Robert Downey Jr. thing, I think that stuck in your craws like, it's really, really tough

when people are like, hey, this ending, so many things do not end perfect. So I feel like if we're going to keep doing the, hey, we're saying goodbye again, goodbye again, there's almost a level of it's a comic book problem. You're never going to kill these heroes. Well, I feel maybe, but I saw a tweet from one of my guys, Sharif, and he had like all the of all the Fox X-Men. And, like, James Martin is, like, 51. Obviously, Ian McKell and Sir Patch Stewart. And at some point, like, these guys don't come back.

You know what I mean? And so this, this really does look like... I don't know. They're about to roll out Professor X, you know, and another Fox... I don't know. Maybe it's probably not Patrick Stewart, man. I mean, do the Rolling Stones still tour? Like, they got it.

Like, it's... I think, to answer your question, I think, instead of watching, like, individuals get snapped and dissolved. and have people mourn them, it's more like we're going to watch entire worlds die. So the entire world of those X-Men dies at the end,

that feels different. And if there's no chance of resurrection, other than, like, down the road... Those worlds ain't coming back. Yeah, but those worlds are dead. And so I think that feels different than the slow-dissolve, ashing, flaking thing

that we saw at the end of Infinity War, you know what I mean? So that feels somewhat different. And the other thing I know behind the scenes in terms of like, and this feeds into something, I know that you want to talk about Van, but in terms of like who's in this, who's not, they've been going back and forth and they know what the shape of the story is. But in terms of the players, they haven't been fully certain. So I know that the reason that Bennett-Cumberbatch was like, oh, I'm in it, no, I'm not, yes, I am,

was because they weren't sure whether or not they were using Bennett-Cumberbatch. and that's true for like a couple other actors who haven't been announced, that they're like, okay, you're in one of these movies. You might be in both, but you're in at least one, and we're not sure yet if we're going to use you in both. And so the players are in flux, but the story shape is done. If they were following the Secret Awards 2015 storyline, then the characters that we know for sure would make it out

would be Black Panther, would be Reed, Richards, who would be your primary antagonist in that movie, which I'm not sure he'll be. Well, why would they follow, when have they ever followed a comic book storyline that closely? Well, they followed it. They, this is what I'm saying.

They, they followed the broad strokes of the Infinity War as much as they could. And this one, the only reason it could be different is because if you're building to a Secret Wars finale

where it is Doom is your, antagonist, I kind of feel like your only possible protagonist is Rick Richards. Because the only person who is nearly intellectually capable enough to outwill, doom in that situation that put the universe back together would be read. I mean, start wattage wise, too, I think the only new player on the board who I feel could like carry that film of the new cast probably is going to be Pedro. And that's nothing against everybody else.

Interesting, though, because I just had a debate with someone about this yesterday, because I was like, Pedro's the second to last. They're putting a lot of, you know, they start with Chrisamsworth, who also has like large star watchage, but Pedro's second to last, that's an interesting move. And my friend who, you know, works in this industry is like, Peter Pascal is a huge TV star. He's not a movie star. And I was like, that's interesting. I would agree. Can we think of a Pedro Pascal movie performance? Well, we're going to find out because now and Grogo comes out next year.

And then he's re-richers. I think that what you're saying is probably true, but I bet you Pedro Pascal doesn't feel that way. I mean, I think he's incredible. I'm not knocking him at all, but in terms of like his star wattage, there is still a difference between a TV star and a movie star. But if I'm going to be real,

I feel like if you're honing in on the nerd collective, I think he has the highest curating just in terms of like... The IP that he's been in. The IP that he's been in where it's like, I feel like a lot of the other stars, like Paul Rudd, we all love Paul Rudd. I'll watch Ant Man Forever. He was dinged a little bit in the last movie. Same thing with Chris Hemsworth.

We didn't really like the last Thor movie. So I think Marvel is kind of being like, yeah, Pedro is just like he's coming off Last of Us. He's going to have Mando. By the time this comes out, most likely he's still going to be beloved. And that's just to speak to how well Marvel thinks they can use him. Because if he can carry Fantastic Four well, then obviously we're going to be on game. Yeah, maybe. for June's Day.

Well, because it's kind of hard to be a one-for-one for Secret Wars 2015, right? Like, there's no molecule man, right? Now, I have an idea of who that could be. I mean, you know, those are the, oh, go ahead, Jumby. I'm sorry. No, but I'm just saying, like, making Patriot Pascal in theory, like, makes sense as protagonist, obviously, but it could be different. If Chris Evans comes back as Captain America, then, you know, he's done it before. The Molecule Man thing here, in my opinion, is going to be the anchor beings.

Can you explain to people who are listening or watching who don't know about Secret Wars? Okay. So in Civil War 2015, essentially every multiverse, every universe has to have a molecule man. And Molecule Man is kind of the thing that connects all of them together. Doom is able to use the power of the beyonders. And you guys, like, Doom is able to use the power of the power of the beyonders. the power of the beyonders to create a whole new reality where he becomes the God king. But every single, to destroy that, to destroy a universe, you have to destroy that universe is a molecule man.

And so in this particular iteration, I think something that they introduced in Wolverine and Daredevil, or Wolverine and Daredevil. or Wolverine and Dead Devil. Wolverine and Deadpool is that every single universe has an anchor being. And since they don't have molecule, man, the anchor beings will be the thing that you have to kill in that universe. And it can be different characters. And it can be different characters. And that's so much more fun. I mean, that's interesting.

Instead of hunting infinity stones, we're hunting anchor beings in different universes. Yeah, well, hunting Wolverine, we're hunting whomever. That's actually very. And it could work very well. I didn't think about it like that. I was thinking that they would have Loki because you mentioned Molecule Man being the center holding the universe together. When we leave off in Loki season two, he's holding the world tree.

He's holding on the timelines together. Maybe Loki is every single, maybe a different Loki variant is every single anchor being. I mean, we've seen a lot of Loki variants. We've seen a lot of Loki variants. I mean, one thing that I'm worried about with this is I feel like it speaks to how, when you don't have a Thanos as your primary antagonist or whatever,

I feel like they don't kind of know the internal logic of the multiverse because I feel like at one point when it was very Kang focused, it was like TVA and Loki, but obviously there was everything that happened with multiverse of madness, then there was everything that happened

in the Spider-Man film. And even as like just a... Yeah. Like a comic book fan, even I'm a little bit like, dog, how is the written secret wars less complicated than the movie. The movie is supposed to be like the least complicated

version of this. I'm going to be honest with you. I've read Secret Wars a bunch of times. There is no possible way a movie could be that complicated. Hickman is fucking out of his mind. No, no. Hickman is not a complicated writer, but I'm just saying all of these movies together,

if you had to sit down like somebody who like the last film, maybe they saw it was like the Spider-Man film and had to break down the multiversal science of the M-C see you, they'd be like, are you insane? I feel like this happened when we were doing Infinity War and Endgame when people, I remember

before Infinity War came out, people were trying to do explainers about like what the Infinity Stones are and what the gauntlet is and what Thanos wants and all those other stuff like that and it was just fathoms more complicated than what they ended up doing, which is like, hey, guess what? You already know all the Infinity Stones.

You don't need to worry about it. There are parts of all the movies that we've done before. And if you're swapping those for anchor beings, It's just sort of like, you know Wolverine. You know Loki. Spider-Man. It depends on who they choose. It's very...

You know Beast. It's very plausible that Spider-Man. This is the anchor being? Spider-Man could be an anchor being. Well, is Spider-Man going to be... Isn't he... They're starting filming. He's doing The Odyssey.

Is Tom Holland going to even be in Doomsday? He's got a probably being secret. But if... But if... Doomsday and Spider-Man are happening at the same time, and Spider-Man were to die in his movie, then I don't know. You talk about Tom Holland, Spider-Man?

Yeah. Being the anchor being of... He can't be the anchor being of our universe, can be? No, he could six... Or they call it 616-9-9-99. He could be. Wait, who is the anchor being of our MCU? I don't think that's established.

I don't think that's established. Wolverine was the anchor being of... Anyway, we're getting... I mean, the question of who's the anger being in the art universe is a bigger, it's a bigger question. But we have no clue, though. We have no clue, though. So that's why it's fun.

The Amazing Spider-Man, I feel like that universe, their anchor being, is Andrew Garfield. And for the OG Spider-Man, the anchor being is Toby Moly. But what if it was Craven? Oh, that could be. That'd be awesome. What if it was Craven?

I'd never want to throw tomato on somebody before. Oh, my goodness. You guys are not serious. Yeah. Bring back Rhino. Now, without, okay, so we got a little into the wheeze, but like if you guys haven't read, 2015 Secret Wars

and you are ready I mean you have to start way before then right you have to start in the Fantastic Four the New Avengers you do not do not

that's a lot of over that's a lot of homework how about this if you don't want to do it then don't fucking do it but if you start just reading and you don't have to

you don't have to you don't have to but if you want to read if you want to have a great summer and you want to get through or just go to comics explain it and let Rob explain

the whole thing to you nine hours, a nine hour video. I've listened to it multiple times. I've listened to it multiple, a nine hour explaining. Vandem here single-handedly driving up the view counts on all the lower videos across the entire. I don't understand how you guys don't do this all day. This is so, because we're going to die one day. Life is very sure.

I'm going to say to myself right here, last night I was doing some social stuff and I put on like a 90-minute invincible just like from the beginning of the comics to the end of the comics. And I just sat there. Only 90 minutes? I watch Thrones lore videos. Great. Those are the best ones. Those are the best ones.

Honestly, I watch One Piece lore, so I get you. Wow. Okay. You can't even. You're like, last night I spent seven hours on Yoda. Last night I spent 20 hours on Darth Vader. I'm just sort of like, what's... You guys also have to...

Do you sleep? You guys also have to remember that, like, I'll get home and I'll be working, and the video would just be playing. And like when I hear something that I don't know or I can't remember, I'll just rewind it. I'll be like, oh, this is your like, this is your like, this is your like noise. Yeah, it's like, oh, I lost focus. I didn't hear why this happened. So I'll go back.

Or when I'm listening to the throne stuff, I'll be like, oh, I didn't hear that name of that person. So I'll go back. It used to be I would do this stuff with important stuff like books on politics and economics and now is Yoda. Now is Yoda. I can't. I can't. My brain doesn't work that way. I can't listen to something while I'm doing.

something else. Oh, man. Okay, must be nice. Must be nice. So if we're doing the Infinity War Comp, correct me if I'm wrong. The storylines we had in that, we had Iron Man's team going to space with Spider-Man. Then who were the other team? It was the Guardians of Galaxy.

You had Cap and the nomad with Scarletons. Charlie Johansett, Wanda Vision and Falcon. So basically you had the Trinity all Thor, Cap, Iron Man, separated. Across three, separate. And then when you had Thanos doing his own thing. So we're using that as a con. And then we go to Wakanda. For this.

Right, which I'm interested in where the Wakandans have to do in this particular story. Who's our like Trinity or who are our main story? I'm assuming one's going to be Reed and the Fantastic Four. Anthony McKeon. Anthony Mackey and his Avengers, and I'm assuming maybe Bucky and Florence Pew? The Thunderbolts, you've got the Thunderbolts, you've got the X-Men,

you've got Fantastic Four, you've got what is Ant Man doing, what is Chongchi doing? You know, there's like some few variables. You don't think there are Ant-Man and Chong-Chi are going to be with Mackey and his Avengers, potentially? You think that's the Avengers' line?

Could be a meeting if Basket-Robbins, baby. I think the Avengers' The line will probably look at the way that we thought that it would look in in 2022, 2021. I think it will probably be a mixed mash of the Shang-shee, sort of Anthony Mackie's Captain America, Ant Man, some of the holdovers and stuff like that. A couple of fates that I'm really interested in is there is a fucking fantastic sequence that comes from these books, source material again, with the centri and Thor, where they are fighting against the powers of, you know, God came. Doom and I don't want to spoil too much, but he has this Legion of Thor's and they're fighting against them and I guess they die together.

Seeing that Century was going to be in this movie got me thinking of maybe that happening on screen. You won't think that way till Secret Wars? That would happen to Secret Wars. But I have a bigger question is that some of these characters, to Charles's point, in this two movie run, they have to die forever.

They must die forever. Yeah. It has to be the expert. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't imagine. I mean, but I think there's even more character. I don't think that the MCU and superhero movies in general can keep being like,

keep hitting that same drum of just like, remember these heroes you love? We're killing them off again. I do think that if I'm foggy, I'm like, next time you see us, it's X-Men time and this is all fresh. And we're almost pitching this to a new generation. Now, you're talking about the act. are the characters because the actors, I don't think can come back and back and back and back. You know, I'm saying the actors.

Like, if I'm even, yeah, if I'm even being honest, I don't know if, like, how jazzed I would be of, like, most of these, I see most of these MCU people again. Like, I'm just, like, most of the Avengers,

I kind of don't need a Thor five. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready for, for Chris to hang up his hammer. I think that. He loves it. He loves it. He loves it.

And by the way, once again Hemsworth is like 42 right that's not at all an age where he couldn't play Thor he could play Thor presumably until he's 60 years old

I mean Paul Rudd Anthony Mackey how old are they going to be by the end of secret wars now he started in his 40s yeah exactly so like when you I always say this when you think about it like Chris Evans jumped out the game a little early there was still some cap meat on the bone

You know what I mean? Yeah, but he thought he had Sebastian's dance career in front of him. Whoa, you guys didn't like ghosted? I don't want to diss the man. I like ghosted. I'm just saying that

I recently watched No, you're not. And it was like he had a... No, you're not. You're not defending ghosted. Listen, you are not defending. You don't like the movie. Listen, I had a lot of fun at my house.

Anna Armis. All right. Okay, no. All right. Last question for us to ponder. Are you not going to get your... James Mars is in? Your takeoff?

No. No. Oh, oh, did you make a boss? No, no, no, no. What happens at dinner, stays at dinner. Do you? Oh, no. Oh, no.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I got to say it. I got to say it. I want to let James Mars then know. James, you're a very nice guy. You're a very nice guy, James. You're a nice man. I went to a dinner, and James Mars didn't happen to be at this dinner.

Absolutely love, lovely guy. You lied to me. James. You lied to me. I asked James Marsden at Saffey's. We had fucking steak together. Tommy Alter was there. You know,

wherever Tommy goes, wherever Tommy goes, when Tommy invites you to a dinner, there's going to be a surprise. One random celebrity is just going to be at dinner and all of a sudden it's going to be like, hey, hey,

how are you guys doing? And all of a sudden it's going to be like fucking Daniel Craig is going to pop in. I've never told me for years. But it... Incredible Daniel Craig impression. Thank you. But James Marzen was there.

super nice guy. We talked all about the jury, duty show that he did and stuff like that. And I knew. I asked him straight up. I was like, hey, you must be getting excited about like,

like Captain America, not excuse me, not Captain America, but about Cyclops and the Secret Wars and the Doomsday stuff and all of that stuff. And he was like, no, no, no,

great actor because he was selling me. He's like, no, no, I'm not in it at all. I haven't heard anything. I legitimately haven't heard anything. And I'm like, it's impossible. Even,

Even as he said that, you're like, you're lying. I'm saying it at the thing. I'm like, I don't believe you. Like, it's impossible. You must be in movie. Movie must have Cyclops in. You must be in it. He's like, I'm promising you.

They might be reaching out to a lot of people, but they haven't reached out to me yet. Media training. You got me, James. James, I believed in you. To shoot Marsensen Bell, do you think, like, he's like, damn, the man who formerly worked at TMZ and now host a pop and a pop and a person I want to tell this. It's funny because I said that. I said that while we were talking.

I was like, yeah, you can tell me. I'm the host of a popular nerd culture podcast, so you don't have to worry about me getting on there and telling everybody. He was awesome guy. I get he couldn't tell. But that just goes to show you like how buttoned up they were about all of the announcements. Can I hate you with two more X-Men takes? Sure.

Do you think Alan Cumming is here just because of the success of traders? If it is, I don't care. Love Nightcrawl. but like, do you think he makes the lineup if Traders wasn't a massive hit? That's a great question. I don't know. I feel like Nightcrawler's got juice. Follow the question.

Do you feel like them bringing Channing Tatum in as Gambit is a love letter just to me personally? Could be. I'm so interested in the juice that Channing Tatum as Gambit has picked up in the last couple of years. Yes and no. Okay, give it. Yes and no, right? because yes.

So the no part is he's definitely getting clapped. Like it's done. He's over for him. But what if he's not? Nah. But what if he might be around? What if he plays gambit straight this time?

I mean, maybe. But I think we had so much fun that like the memes went crazy. People loved hearing the tending table like. So like, yeah. Don't be the movie. Have them doing there for like five,

10 minutes. Have him die. You know what I'm saying? No, no. Don't be it's not sober for him. All of the X men can die. Keep Channing. I've already watched Gambit died too many times in recent.

Here's the thing. If this Gambit dies, you're not going to be as messed up. I love Shannon, but he got to get it. He got to get him. He lives. He's done.

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Thank you. With the rumors that what's their face from Stranger Things is playing Gene. I know. City Sing. Do you think we're going to get any new X-Men content? in secret wars. New? Oh,

and secret wars? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You think they're going to unveil some of the... Sure. Yes. Something.

In secret wars, yes. Doomsday? No. But secret wars, for sure. Miles and Rouse. You think we're getting Miles and Marius? I've got to give Mola Kuhamah the cheeseburger. Yeah.

Man, the cheeseburger, the old ass cheeseburger. Three weeks? Last thing before we go. I said that, but I mean it this time. Kang. So are we going to do a Dr. Strange Snap? Nobody ever remembered you thing.

Do we have a scene where the Council of Kang's is slaughtered? They got to tie it up. Loki Season 2 did not tie it up. I think it kind of did. I think it did. I think the story of Loki Season 2 is plausible, the plausible interpretation of that is that he snipped like the entire King phenomenon from ever happening.

Really? Yeah. I have not come away with that. I had the feeling that there was still a council of Cangs out there somewhere. I mean, even if there is, I think you could do the thing where in, in Secret Wars, where he takes Dr. Dune's spine and just like turns him to dust or whatever, you could do that with King and the, like the opening scene or whatever. But you could get rid of him easily. I mean, not to... I mean, when he does that, the Thanos.

Yeah, Thanos, sorry. Not to open up a canon of arms right at the end here, but, like, the reason we know why Jonathan Majors isn't coming back, it's for legal, you know, reasons. VR stuff. Tenoch Huerta had plausible allegation. Like, the fact that Namor is back, and they're just sort of, like, hoping we don't notice,

the drama around that actor is interesting to me. Well, I mean, to be honest with you, Joe, we've discussed this a little bit. It's interesting to you, and it is the, when not focusing on the actual meat of actually what happened, it is the double standard that a lot of people are afraid of sometimes. I know. That's one thing.

That it has to do particularly with a prominent black actor. Now, once again, we've tried and we've hemmed it hard and how we're supposed to deal with that. There's no right set of circumstances to analyze that makes you completely pure and completely right in the way that you look at something like that. On one side is redemption. On the other side is accountability. So it's a hard kind of thing.

I understand how hard it is and I understand that there are layers and layers and layers of it. I just think it's like to take that stance, Marvel's like this is our stance on this particular thing. And then we hope you don't notice that we're not taking the stance on this other actor. It seems to me like a double standard. It does. I think it is not only a double standard. It seems to me like a double standard. I also think that this is just with who is in office and the new regime at Disney,

we see what's going on with Snow White. I don't know if they, like, I don't know that they care. Like, they don't care. And I don't think to, in the sad part is I don't think that many people are going to notice. Well, nobody's going to notice because of the still relative anonymity of the, the actor who plays Namor. Now, I'll say this. That is less important to me.

The fact that people don't know him as well as they know Jonathan Majors. That just means that less people are paying attention to what seems to be a very clear double standard. That's less important to me. But the fact that a lot of people don't know what's going on, honestly, it's our job kind of to litigate and ask these questions. It's our job to kind of be like, well, if it's actually about this and not just the perception of Disney and the movie as brand and content, then why would this guy be in the movie and this guy would be in the movie? If it's actually about what allegations are, accusations are, then what's the difference? It is nothing to do with like baseline morality. It has to do with PR.

Right. It has to do with what they can sell and what they can't. I mean, they know, they know people know the Jonathan Major story and they are banking on. people not knowing the tenus work. But I find it also interesting that I'm like, you guys, if there are going to be more chairs or if there's going to be another row of actors, I just find it very troubling that

the list of these chairs, how they were unveiled, who goes before who, I guarantee you was argued over for hours or not days and weeks. You brought it up earlier, Joe. There's only what five actresses on this? There's just kind of a level of minimum

them like, they showed their asses. Like, they kind of, like, not a great look. This is, I've said this before. And I'm going to keep saying it over and over and over again until y'all hate me. I want to make y'all hate me by saying this. Man, if you guys care about the diversity and if you guys care about the strength of these characters, you have to support the stuff that they're in. You got to go see the movies, man.

You have to go see the movies. You have to go see him. Even if you get out there for the first couple of weeks and you see them, you have to go see the movies. Like we just talked to, like they, and the characters, whether they're served well or not served well, for example, we talked about Jonathan Majors, right? We just talked about him, whether we talked about it directly or we talked about it, Rhonda Bodley. Magazine Dreams comes out. It goes 700,000 in theaters. It's 800 theaters.

It's in. the movie doesn't hit the million that they wanted to. There are going to be a lot of people who, despite the brilliance of the performance, go, you know what? People aren't ready to accept him anymore. So everybody that was in the comments, after all of these different PR places that he went,

it's like, wow, Jonathan, we love you, we love you, we love you. Y'all didn't go see the movie. Y'all didn't go see the movie. So all I'm saying is, I'm not just saying this for the female characters. I'm talking about the black-led characters and particularly the LBGT characters that really middle America doesn't come out to see.

Y'all have just got to go see. But I just push back on that when it comes to Marvel because there is just a level of them like, how many bites at the Apple did, like, what, you got a Black Widow movie that people did go to support in the middle of the pandemic. That movie did probably better. Like, Black Widow didn't do all right

during the middle of the pandemic? Look. I want to hear what? But I think and I think Marvel's is like, Marvel is what it is, but like they kneecap that. They threw Nia to Kasa under the bus, you know, before that even hit. So it's just like, there is a level to me of like, I get it. People are like, you have to show out. You have to support.

But I'm just like, hey, if a white hero doesn't do what it needs to do and fucks up, there's three or four other movies that are coming before that. When it's a woman character, I'm just like, hey, yo, a lot of those movies weren't good. and I just sometimes I'm like, I don't know how fair it is when it's like, not only did they not get that many movies, most of the other stuff was relegated to Disney Plus, which is like to most of us a black hole in terms of how well did any of these things actually do.

Because I think a She Hulk movie actually would have probably done a lot better than the Shehawk show just because you would have had. Better digital effects. Better digital effects, more story room. And it's like, I mean, the way I look at that, just real quick, the way I look at that is you making my point.

me tell you why. If you know, this is how I view people, okay, fuck Marvel. This is how I view the shit that I put out. When our shit comes out, go see our shit. Because we don't know, because we're not going to get five chances. See what I'm saying? We're not going to get five, six chances. Like, I'm not going to get, nobody's going to sit down and go, oh my God, he wrote a great spec or their short won an Academy Award. No, they're not doing that. When we get in theaters, go see the shit. Go see it. Go give it a chance. Because when we brick

like, you know what I'm saying? I get you, I feel you, but there's only so much. I could, I walked out of the Marvels. I can't tell my sister's like, hey, yo, spend $20.30 at the theater to go. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. The Marvels was fine. As a matter of fact, when I left the Marvels, the way I felt was,

hey, y'all go see this movie. I thought it was fun. Yeah, because the movie. The movie was cool and go see the movie to show people that you like seeing these types of carriages on screen. My recommendation means more to me. I don't want people to be like, you told me to go watch this. Your recommendation means more than you than supporting women.

You're going to say. Whoa. That's what you said. If we want to be so real, if we want to be so real, I'm sorry, we're not beating the revolution just because motherfuckers show up to see the Marvel's. So let's not do that. Well, they don't complain about the fact that it's not allowed to do you. What I'm also saying, hey, Miss Marvel should have gotten the movie.

movie. Chee Hulk should have got a movie. They should have been movies. They shouldn't have been fucking busy pleasure. It's just a weird place to be in to be like, hey, we need more diversity,

but when the shit comes out, you don't want to go see the shit and you don't tell nobody to see it. I go see the shit, but there is a level of, I'm not going to be like to everybody like, damn, we change in the future because we went to go see

tomorrow. I'm like, if it's bad, I'm like, you might want to go support another movie. Like, because here's the thing, it's not, if I'm being real, If I'm being written, no, I'm just being honest. But this is the issue.

No, but if I'm being honest, I'm like, if there's a bunch of movies out, right? All right. And there's a piece of shit. And then there's one that is pretty good. And stars a woman. I'm like, well, I saw both of these. You should probably see this one if you only a ghosty one. I can't take you seriously.

You support the Venom franchise. You're like, Venom is a masterpiece. Well, and guess what? Don't go see the Marvel. And guess what? A bunch of people. The Marvels is objectively better than the Venom movies. Wait, which one?

The last Venom movie, the last stuff. The Marvel's is. Pick one. You got a pick of Vendombo. And here's the thing. A bunch of my homies were like, should I go see Vettam 3? And I'm like, I can't even be a troll. Hell, no.

I was on my Black Adam shit. And I was like, yeah. I'll tell you how I am. I bought a ticket to Red Tails. I've never seen that movie. I'd see that one for class. I've never, I've never. Shout out to the Tuskegee Airman.

I bought a ticket to Red Tales, never seen the movie. Bought a ticket to the photograph. Never seen it. Do you know how I definitely thought this podcast is going to end? Shout out to the Tuskegee Airman. Shout out to him. Shout out to them. We got to shout them out.

Wait, wait. So, wait. So. They're taking the shit would be taken off. Then, then, so you're telling me

that you don't be watching stuff, especially Tuskegee Airman. I don't need to see the Tuskegee Airman story again. Okay? I've learned about it. Wow.

I don't need to see it again. Like, but what I do, what I do, what I do need to do, I don't need to learn more about the Tuskegee Airman. But what I do. But you got to watch.

No, I don't. That's the rule of the Midnight boys. You got to watch. Well, I'm not reviewing it. So I'm seeing it. This is for, you think you can twist me up. You can't have been doing this for years.

It's like, if we were covering the Tuskegee Airman, if we were covering the movie, I will watch it. See, that's the difference. If we were covering, I will watch it. But what, what I decided was, you know what? I'm going to tell you the movie I went to go see. Went to go see Underworld. I was like, you know what? Supporting the cause.

Supporting the cause. I was like, I only got time. I was on my break at TMZ. I was like, I only got time to see one of these. I know the Tuskegee Airman, I told him, I was like, give me one for Red Tails, and then give me one for like Underworld, Rise and the Likins or whatever the fucking was.

Right. Shout out to Rise and the Likens. And the guy was like, these movies are on at the same time. I'm like, yeah, I just, you can give the Red Tails ticket to some black child who doesn't know. I was like, I'm going to see Underwood. Who's on there? Black child is on their lunch break.

Right. See Red Tails. If somebody want to see... If somebody want to see Red Tails just go, hey, you know, whatever. But, like, I'm buying a ticket to Red Tails to support Red Tails. I don't need to see the... Right. It's not Batman.

Right. I don't need to... Damn. I love the Tuskegee Airman. It's a little fucked up that. Here's a thing. I've seen so many different iterations. Come on, bro.

It might have been. I don't know. Did you see those Likins Rice? I love. Bro, I needed to see it. I don't think you understand. It might have not been Rise of the Likins. But if your movie comes out

and it's a black movie, bro, I'll be on VOD like renting shit. If your movie comes out and it's a black movie... So I should be putting on Tube being, you don't have to. All I'm saying is, I'm not going at the same time complaining there's not enough black movies being made when I'm not buying tickets to rent. If you had to add, let's just

do this for the sisters, shall we? Who are doing it? For themselves. By themselves. For themselves. If you had to add one or two women who were not in that row of chairs. Who do you most want to see? So I think Tiana Paris is definitely going to be in there.

Elizabeth Olson. No, Elizabeth, you got to let her be free. If she wants to be there. She doesn't want it, but... You're not going to say, Haley? Kids Bishop? This is Big Boy Business. Oh, Kay Bishop is a good one.

Or Kamala Khan. I do Kamala Khan. A thousand percent. Malakhani. Valani. Alamalani. Absolutely. It would have certainly been

Captain Marvel. Exactly. Like, certainly been Captain Marvel. Did Brie Larson want to come back? She doesn't really seem like she wants to do it anymore. But I feel like... Nissan money's too good. Yeah, I thought it was rude that

Bree Larson wasn't there when I originally, like, when the lists were coming down and she wasn't there. I was like, interesting. I would put Kate Bishop and Kamala Khan. Yes. No, she hoped. Seeger was. Hook up with Matt Murdo.

No, Evangily. Damn. Well, listen. She got our own beliefs, man. Whatever. Come on. Come on. All right, you guys, that's a wrap on the House of Midnight.

It's fantastic stuff. On Monday, Rearvers recommends returns. And I can't wait to see what all you guys didn't recommend. I did something in the recommends. And Steve, Steve was evil Steve yesterday. And Steve put it. Steve was all over Jomey. Please go check the Midnight Boys.

You were on your haters shit. Steve did as a group? Huh? I'm so jealous. You guys did it together? No, but the conversation about recommends carried over into the podcast. Okay. Right.

And then Steve was just... I just simply wouldn't recommend a new thing to buy. I didn't read along with the thing to buy. All of this stuff... He thinks everybody watches the Midnight Boys are broke boys. I did not say that. I simply would not recommend buying a $500 Oculus for one thing. It's not even...

There were two levels, Steve. One was like 300. I was recommending something on the Oculus. That's what it is. That's fair. I tell you what you don't. know is you recommend stuff on the internet all the

time and kids in the country in Louisiana don't even have Wi-Fi like that. Wow. And I will be you don't even give a fuck about it. I will be seeing the movie about Louisiana Wi-Fi to support that cause. They don't know why-fi but they're listening to podcast? I'm not saying that they're listening to

it. I'm just saying you're recommending stuff that some kids can't even get to because they can't even listen to us. I have raised money for kids to have Wi-Fi. I can't believe your turntables on Steve and trying to call him a lead is. This is, anybody is

in the lead. Let's wrap it up. Yeah, it's over. Thank you with our team, Johnson, Richter, Steve Allman,

Cephano Sanchez, T. Cruz, and Jomi, a dinner on for his work on social. Chuck, supporter of women. Take us out.

Steve hates, poor people. The rest of the cast of Doomsday, we don't know. Shout out to our honorary fifth midnight

boy. Bose. Not Joe? Joe writes with no. I was so good. Wow. You're right there. A dog of a supporter of women.

Go see that movie, Chuck. A supporter of woman, Joe was right there. Wow. I was my bad, Joe. I was ashamed of you. I thought you was going to say Joe. I got that right.