The Ringer-Verse - ‘Barbie’ Reactions | Mint Edition

Episode Date: July 23, 2023

Steve, Jessica, and Jomi are back to share their reactions to the latest film in fandom, ‘Barbie.’ Listen as the crew discusses whether this is a movie for children, highlight some of the film’s funniest moments, and dive into some of the film’s deeper themes pertaining to what Barbie dolls mean to the world. Hosts: Steve Ahlman, Jessica Clemons, Jomi Adeniran Producer: Jonathan Kermah Additional Production Support: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome back to Mint Edition. It's the once-in-a-while podcast about all of the latest fandom that you just can't live with out. I'm Steve Alman. Joining me today, and as always, co-hosts of mine, I'm just going to say, hey, Ken. It's Joe Me a dinner on. And hey, Barbie. Hi, Barbie. It's Jessica Clemens.

Hi, Barbie. Hi, Ken. Hey, Ken. Hey, Barbie. Hey, Barbie. Hi, Ken. It feels great to say. I really is.

It's very nice. I get it. I understand. We have a great show for you guys today. Guess what we're talking about? It's Barbie. We're so excited. We're going to be talking about the biggest movie of the year, it seems.

The marketing Blitzkrieg has ended. There's going to be a time when we're not talking about Barbenheimer, and it's culminated in all of this. Are you excited? I'm very excited. Don't know if it's a movie. of the year. I would say I think across the Spider-verse was the movie of the year. Right? No? I'm not talking about the best movie of the year. I'm talking about like just the biggest events of a movie. This is the summer. This is, we were like, the bombs are all going to hit for the summer with these two movies. Hey, they're the bombs. Exactly. The bombs. Oppenheimer is absolutely the movie in the summer. We're going to talk about Oppenheimer now. All right. Now this is, we've shift gears to an Oppenheimer podcast. But before we begin, let's kick off with some programming reminders. Monday, Ben and Jess are back with the gaming. pod and giving you some Nintendo

rankings. I'm going to keep it nebulous and just go with Nintendo is ranked in there. Wednesday, the Midnight Boys would be giving you their thoughts on the season finale of Secret Invasion for real this time. Did we fake it last time? No, it's not that we faked it, it's just actually happening.

Oh, there you go. You know, we're like, you know, hey, secret invasion, it's been happening. That makes sense, I hear. Now it will happen. We're going to do our homework. It's going to be fine. Next week, Jess will be giving you a breakdown of the Gen V trailer as well, as well as an Easter egg video for Secret Invasion's finale. And then Friday, House of R will be giving you their deep dive on the season finale of

Secret Invasion as well. Big week for us coming up. But we kick off this week with Barbie. I'm so excited. We live life in plastic and god damn it if it isn't fantastic. Today's show is going to be talking about the blockbuster film Barbie that we've all been looking forward to. So, um, spoilers for

Barbie and all Barbie related lore we hope that you've seen the biggest movie of the year but we might be talking about you know some of the other stories that have happened in Barbie's longstanding life and career imagine somebody came to this podcast like we're going to talk about the Barbie movie

let's go and then we spoiled something about the Barbie Cinderella movie from 2006 and like God damn it I was waiting for that one I was going to watch that tonight I quick IMDBed like a bunch of like the other made for TV or or streaming movies that Barbie has had.

There are so many. There's a million. And also it's just like, they just kept branching off and branching off and branching off because she has a million occupation. So it's like Princess Fairy Time Barbie. Yes. The ballerina Barbie, like this Barbie story.

And it's so much. And I love it. You think the MCU is complicated. Have you watched? This is such a weird take. I don't think either you two have done this. But YouTube Barbie, Barbie has a channel on YouTube, where she goes live in her Barbie Mansion.

Yeah, in her Barbie mansion And she'll vlog her day And her Barbie mansion And I watch it You do? Does she interact with chat? Yes, well, like interact I think it's like a record

Already recorded And she'll be like Ha ha ha you're funny And but she'll be like Whoops, gotta go take the dog out And she'll run to like And then it'll be a blank screen Just an empty chair

Sometimes she'll take the camera with it Oh my God Oh my goodness I would watch it While I was working for some reason I don't know I don't, maybe it's the escapeism. I don't know, but it was perfect.

We need to see Barbie, you know, start, like, streaming video games. I want to see Barbie play Call the Duty. No, she'll, she clearly would play the Sims. Oh, she would sit in bed all day and play the Sims. But, like, modded Sims. So she's doing, like, all of the nasty. She has unlimited money, twerking. Unlimited money, the twerking mod, like the uncensored boom boom mod.

I like Barbie playing Sims and giving herself a BBL. and just have the biggest hand. It's just a slider like she takes it to the max. I want to see Warzone Barbie. I don't know about you, but I want to see. No, Warzone's cooked. That's a bad game. Anyway, I can't think we have a better crew

for us to talk about this movie today. Spoilers for Barbie, but let's get into it. Nuts and bolts. Barbie, directed by Greta Gerwig, starring Margot Robbie, Ryan Gosling, and a bunch of other great celebrities, written by Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumback. The long in development and ruminated project first had the likes of Amy Schumer attached to star.

Would have been a wild world that we lived in then. But then the project became Girlwigs and then we cast Margot Robbie streaming off the success of Little Women. The movie became more and more hyped when it was paired with the release of Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer. It became a viral marketing sensation. Before we quick talk about Barbie as a whole, can you remember a bigger, like, brand in tandem juxtaposing event that happened where, like, two amazing things come out in the same day.

Yeah, Mamma Mia and the Dark Night. Mama Mia was one thing. I remember... We weren't locked in back then. We were not. It's funny, because I was. I went saw Mamma Mia, and then I went saw The Dark Night. You guys didn't do that?

But, like, was there a fervent discourse of being like... I was in sixth grade. I know. How could we possibly know? I was more excited. from Mamma Mia. Because how could we have known about the Dark Night? That's true. That's true. We were just like, oh, this is a Batman movie. I just, I was like, my brother was like, I need to go see the Batman movie. My mom was like,

you two have to go together. But Mama Mia, I went with my friend and her grandma and I was like, oh, that seems like, great. Mama Mia too is the better movie, though. No. What do you mean no? No. The ghost of Merrill Streep coming back was ridiculous. Amazing. The only good part of Marlonima Street is amazing. You're out of your mind. The songs were better at Mama Mia too. I will give that. Songs are better at Mama Mia 2. Story was better at Mama Mia 2. No.

You are out of your mind. We're tabling this. Are you high right now? Are you high right now? We'll talk about this. We're going to do rankings. We're tabling this for Mamma Mia 2. Okay.

Grease 2's better is also. Oh, whoa. Whoa. Thank you, Jomey. Thank you, Jome. Grease 2? Grease 2? You're not seeing heaven.

You're not seeing heaven, bro. No, no. You haven't seen Greece 2. That's crazy. I'll tell you right now, you're not the one that I want. You're not the one that I want. this is a Barbie podcast all right so but like I think the

the biggest like juxtaposing marketing sensation that I could remember was when Doom Maternal and Animal Crossing came out on the same day. I don't know if you remember this. That was funny. But this was like just on the cusp of the pandemic and Doom Maternal and Animal Crossing

for the Switch came out and that was like the biggest hyped release for both Edge Lords and cute cuddly gamers. It was probably some of the best meme potential that we've ever had outside of this. Jomey, can you remember anything? Not really. I think for me, this

one stands like above and beyond because we get the release dates and I go to 2021, we're like, hey man, this is going to be fired. Barbie and Oppenheimer coming out the same day. Somebody's going to move. Somebody's going to budge. Yeah. And nobody

did. Nobody did. And now they're walking hand in hand in the new clear feel. It became very clear. It's like, all right, you've seen Barbie first? You've seen Aubaheimann first. You know, we're making it a double feature day. What's going on?

What's happening? And just the exposition of the two movies, like, you know, Barbie's pink and bright and lovely and sweet. And Oppenheimer is, you know, hey, man, we dropped the nuke. The end of human civilization. I was reading somewhere where they were talking about how it's so insane. The psychology of, like, the pink and plastic world that is Barbie is referred to now as millennial pink.

because millennials like that shade of pink more than any other generation. And so they were like, this was already catered to the millennial mind. But so is Christopher Nolan's Obenheimer. So it was just every millennial being like, I can't choose between the two. And I think there's generations that were like, I can choose between the two, but the millennials were like, we can't. So it was just became a bad. I'm going to go off on a limb and just guess that Obenheimer skews a little bit older. A little bit.

And I guess Barbie would go with. I would say also skews a tiny bit older, which we may as well just start talking about Barbie. Yeah, sorry. It was a marketing Blitz Creek that I could only imagine was like equal to the budget of the movie itself. I guess we'll start around the table before we saw the movie. What were our expectations or like excitement levels going into this movie? What did you want this movie to do? Because I can't remember a time where I wasn't excited to at least see what this movie

actually was by comparison to what we were excited for, to the idea where I'm like, I don't even know what I would want to see. I just want to have a good time. I think that's, and that's what everyone wanted after like years of, we just wanted to see something so crazy. So like, this is just an imagination land. This is just like candy land. I was more so stunned with the idea that like after all of this time and all of this hype,

the anticipation was kind of eating itself as to what I actually wanted to see. And by the time I came out of it, I'm like, oh my God. Like, I was just assaulted with a great time. Personally, the press wasn't, the marketing wasn't, we didn't know what it was about. Like, especially after the first trailer, we were just like, this Barbie. And I was like, I still don't know what this movie is about. That's the crazy thing. I was like, I'm so confused. A lot of the movie was kind of just like the marketing where it's like, she's Barbie.

She's Barbie. And he's just a kid. Yeah. And like that's a through line throughout the film, which, you know, we'll get into later. but it's not it wasn't anything it wasn't anything crazy it's a movie about it all you know what I mean we would have been happy if this movie was just vibes but it's so much more than vibes

a lot more than vibes and it's a lot more than vibes I think that's why when I went into it I was just like I mean not hard for me as a Barbie girl I was like hey all you have to say is a Barbie movie show me a poster that was Margot

Robbie and Ryan Gosley and I'm gonna go see it I'm gonna make sure to get that ticket on opening night or even try getting in some weird press for it but it didn't take much for me to get into it but I just didn't know what it was about Well, so we, it's obviously a lot more than vibes. It's a lot more than comedy.

Did you expect this movie to tackle so many societal and feminist themes like pretty much throughout the entire movie? Yeah. Because like we had an idea because like Greta Gerwig is a very conscious and thoughtful and like particular director. So we figured that there was going to be a lot of deconstructing about the idea of Barbie. But do you think it was going to be like to this, like we more or less talk to God at the end. of this movie and like a woman is granted life. Yeah. Did you expect anything like that out of this?

I didn't expect God to show up. Right. Especially as Perlman. In the form of the inventor of Barbie. Yeah, as Ruth. I didn't expect God to show up, but I would have been offended if they didn't talk about the negative traits to like Barbie and not like completely negative, but just like even, I was more surprised that Warner Brothers and Mattel let her do that.

And I was like, oh, but I read an interview where Greta Gerwig was like, I read an interview where Greta Gerwig was like, I told Mattel, I'd be lying to the audience if we do not talk about the elephant in the room that is Barbie, which is the negative sides of Barbie. Right. And that's come, and that that is attacked, not attacked, but like that is tackled in so many different ways. Not only does a 13 year old girl hand Barbie the riot act, it's the idea that the tone and milieu of Barbie as an idea and as an institution is kind of, taken the piss out of while also being honored and celebrated in a very compelling and interesting way. Obviously, Barbie can't mean this much to me because I did not grow up playing with Barbies. You grew up playing with American Girl dolls. Well, my sister had both.

I saw your draft. That was wild as hell. My sister had both American Girl Does and Barbies. Oh, you come from money. No comment. No comment. I'm not putting my sister on. like this. Jomey looked directly in my eyes. I'm just saying the child of divorce contingent is strong

for getting those dolls. But obviously there's going to be a slight disconnect for, I'm going to, I'll speak for Jomi and myself where like Barbie can't mean that much to us because we didn't grow up. Okay, all right, maybe I'm pausing now.

Maybe I'm pausing now. Hold on. I was outside. Okay? No, I wasn't really outside. My sister had Barbies, but yeah. It wasn't for me. Yeah. It wasn't. And that's fine.

But like to know that the concept of a doll that is kind of at odds with the thing that it promises the little girls that play with it and a movie tackling both the thing that it's celebrated for and it's maligned for feels very important to do. And I wanted to know, from your perspective, Jess,

because Barbie means a lot to you, is that honored enough? Oh, yes. We have sections now, and I'm going to get into it here in my section. But yes, I think it is. And I think it's completely from Greta Gerwig. Yes. I think Greta Gerwig was like, hey, I need to do this justice.

And like you said earlier, Greta Gerwig coming from, like, Lady Bird and Little Women, she knows, she knows how to put this stuff in there and make sure everyone's on the same page. And so I think she just did a really good job of translating that into this movie and giving it like honor to Barbie, but also addressing it and put it into a movie very well for anyone to understand. That is how I feel. That's great. I think to this point, a lot of things work about this movie, you know, the themes, the cast, the comedy, like all of it works. But the movie balances like, hey, man,

Barbie's not all that great, like making fun of itself, but also like letting you still relate to Barbie and the characters. I think that's a difficult balancing act that could have gotten mixed up in a lot of worse movies, but this one gets it perfectly right, where you're laughing with Barbie and laughing at Barbie. And I think that works perfectly for this film.

Were you guys surprised? Were you guys surprised by that? Like, when it showed up, when you were like, when Sasha read Barbie for everything she was, were you like, oh, I never thought of it like that? No, here's the thing. Like, I had heard those not talking points,

but I had heard those ideas about Barbie where they're like, oh, it's like there's an unnecessary beauty standards that she's upholding, and it's from a very outdated school of thought about what women should be, even though, like, you know,

the idea of like women could do anything and be anything, but also look a certain way, be a certain way, be presented it a certain way. I knew that that was sold to women in a rather problematic way in its early days. And, you know, some could argue still now.

Yeah. But I didn't think that it would kind of tow the line with the idea that there's a thing to be both celebrated and challenged. And the idea that Barbie's actually going through that struggle herself to where it's not like the idea of, I thought that this would be something in line with like a toy story narrative where the toy. Yeah, same. The toy understands what it means to the kid that's playing with it. But for Barbie, it's like, what does Barbie mean to the world? Yes. And what does the idea of a woman that looks like Margot Robbie and says,

you can be just like me, how does she grapple with like, that's bullshit and that's a lie? And that's still okay for us to celebrate you and anything that any woman could ever be. that's like a crazy idea to just be in a movie about a doll while also there's like Ryan Gosseling being a horse girl and just wanting to be boyfriend girlfriend

and sing his guitar for four hours this movie does a lot and I think it might be doing it perfectly I think it did a near perfectly near perfectly because it's also like it felt like Greta Gerwig I love her I love her

I'm gonna for sure what I'm gonna say I love her. But like, it came from the same trope of like what Lady Bird kind of did where I was like, this isn't a universal issue. This is just Lady Bird's issue. And it doesn't really affect everybody. Sure.

And I think... Everybody's not trying to escape Sacramento? Yeah. Uh, yeah. I mean, everybody's from Sacramento, right? Oh, Arjuna news. We all love Sacramento. We love our listeners in Sacramento.

Please stay or go. Actually, I don't. Fuck the Kings. I said it. What's up? Oh, I thought you were about to say, fuck the kids. I was like, from Sacramento? What do?

Kings, man. Look at those guys. Okay. Well, I don't like... Good run. Like the beam. Come on. All right.

But I think that half of that was like Greta Gerwig's going into planning and the other half was definitely Noah doing Ken's part. I think Noah was like, I'm going to let you do tackle all this. And Noah's injecting, Noah Baumack, the co-writer of this film is going to inject the comedy and the like satirical slapstick parts of these, which I think are really good. I don't think it was even had to be written after a certain part. Ken was just, Ken himself was just,

like, funny because he was just so out of touch. He's just Ken. He's just Ken. But, like, to get to, like, the vibes that I think were perfectly executed in this, there's a tongue-in-cheek way that this movie carries itself, where all of the, like, sight gags and tones of speak, especially in the very beginning of the movie, are perfectly in line.

with the idea of what it's like to play with toys and how toys interact with each other. When Ken scares Barbie in the car and they, she, like, the car doesn't just, like, veer off the road. It literally lifts and flips over and, like, goes upside down and lands perfectly. And you could just see a little girl, like,

playing, oh, no, we're crashing the car. Oh, like, and she's just turning the car around and it lands perfectly and fine. And when she, like, is sad, and she just, like, slumps over at a right angle. and then goes flat. All of those things are perfectly executed in the idea of play, and it never takes us out of it.

It never loses this illusion that anything has. Like, did the idea of Barbieland ever get too out there knowing that there's humans in this world of literal plastic? Well, I mean, I'll be the first one to say it. It kind of doesn't make any sense, if you like try to think about it for too long. Yeah, but don't think about it. And they bring that up in the movie.

They're like, so we're going to act like there's a fictional place where like Barbies can leave and be the same size of here. And then I think that all the board members were like, yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And then we just go over it. If you spend like three seconds going like, well, but how you just, it's not going to work for you. Yeah. But because we're also watching a Barbie movie. Exactly, right? Like, come on.

Like, you know, have some sense. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, it all, it all works out. You just got to, you just don't have to think about it. it. Like, if you don't think about it, it all makes sense. It's all fine. Yeah. You know.

To which, again, like, I don't think I've, like, they don't make movies like that where it is so self-aware to the degree where it's like being like, you know what, don't think about it. And it's actively telling you don't think about it. You could yada yada and garble and jargon your way through a lot of, you know, say, science fiction and, you know, superhero movies like that. But instead, it's just like, don't actually forget about it. Like, it's, you take a spaceship, then you take a boat, then you take a tandem bike.

Take a ski. Then you take, you got a like a caravan. Yeah, caravan for your cooking. You know, like, all right, cool. And then you show up in the world world and it's like, you show up in Century City of all places. Oh, did you see it in Century City? We did. Because that lied about Century City, I was like, Jomi and Steve are cackling right now.

We were, the entire theater went crazy. It was nuts because we saw this at Century City AMC. and the time when Ryan Gossy's like, everybody's got it figured out in Century City. And Barbie's like, nobody has it figured out in Century City. I love it. It's so much fun. But yeah, like the whole like getting from,

how does Barbie become real? How does she get from Barbaryland to the human land? Like all that stuff, like you just, again, them tell people like, guys, don't worry about all that. They didn't convince me enough that Bargarabi is real because she's not real. She isn't real. She's so not real. But to that point

it's still like thinking outside of the box but thinking inside the box to what you said also to Steve of just like this is children playing with the toys so the justification is always going to be like well a child's playing with this toy right now so it's okay that they're doing weird things And I think my last question for my section being

you know it's in the idea of kids having fun and playing toys obviously this movie is rated PG-13 it tackles a lot there's a lot of innuendo there's a lot of fun things and colorful things that could attract children. But I really was grappling with myself for him. Like, could you take your 10-year-old niece to this movie?

Yes. And could you take, like... Radicalize the children. Sure, yeah. Teach them, yes. But like, you're going to have to explain a couple of things. I would want my child to go see this. Sure.

Because I are my niece. And this is not saying that they shouldn't or should. It's more of a question. I'm like, okay, are they really going to have a good time understanding? this. And I think they're going to get the same fun that they got from Tyra Banks and Lindsay Lowndes. Yeah. They'll see the fun in that.

Sure. Life-size Barbie, if they're really young. But if they are like 10, 11, 12, I think it is important to talk about the situation at hand that Sasha does go over. Because where it's like it does create a lot of unobtainable everything. And I don't want you to suspend belief to the degree that you don't think you're perfect. 100%. 100%. 100%.

I would take my niece to see Barbie. Mm-hmm. and then have her mom answer all the questions. Yeah. That's what I would do. What is a gynecologist? Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying?

This is important for you. Don't ask me none of it though. Right. Talk to you. Which is great. This is a great section for Jomi and I to wash our hands of. Be like, hey. There's a lot of stuff that we don't need to explain.

Oh my God. No, no, no, no. But because we, when Jomi and I went to our screening, there were, there was a section of like, I would ballpark these like five, six, seven-year-old girls. A lot of children. A lot of children in that movie. And there were a couple of moments where I could audibly hear, they're like, what's that or what's this? And I'm not saying that, like, they can't enjoy that, but I was just like, oh, this is definitely a PG-13 movie presenting itself as a movie for kids.

And not that there's anything wrong with that, but, like, you know, you still think about the little girl that Barbie's for when it takes into account the five-year-old girl, the 13-year-old girl. the 35-year-old girl that all grew up with Barbie. I think the kids still seeing it in the ask questions because kids are just curious. I remember when I saw Hamilton, there was a child behind me the entire time talking, the play, the musical. Oh, the play. It was horrible. But like even at the death scene, the child was like, is he dead? Like, is he okay?

And the dad kept being like, no, he's dead. And it was like, but why? Because is what happens when you go to that? And it was like, I think kids are just always curious about things that they don't know. And even if the child went and saw like a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, like a Bob the Builder movie, they'd be like, what's that do?

And it'd be like, it's a hammer. It's nails. But I think that curiosity shouldn't be like to say that the movie isn't okay for kids. I think it's like,

yeah, it brings up questions that children should be answering or asking that I think is important to ask, especially going forward in life. If we were in the 60s, it'd be like,

no, don't ask questions about this, but we're in 2020. So it's like, yeah, have your children ask questions about this and answer them. Maybe after the movie.

When the movie's over. It's so funny. That's good. Yeah, the girl dads are going to have a lot to answer for after the... I hope the girl dads don't feel... Okay, so this is a really funny little side bit. I have an improv team. I haven't done improv in a really long time,

but my first improv team and my best friends of group are a bunch of women, and we named our team gyno. And when it's any time we were introduced, men would say, Gino? Oh, God. Because they didn't know what a gyno was. And it's actually kind of surprising how many men don't know what a gyno is. So I'm sure in the movies...

Or at least the phraseology gyno. I don't know. I bet when she said at the end of the movie, there was a lot of men that just sat there and was like, what's funny? Yeah, no. Well, here's the thing. I'm a 33-year-old man.

I know why that end joke is funny. But it's more of the idea where we're like, okay, now little girl, we're going to tell you what a gynecologist is. We're going to you and like, okay, so she's going to the doctor. And that's a special doctor when you... In the movie, she even said,

I don't have a vagina. So it's like, it's aware that we're like, yeah, you have a body part. But that's clearly now where we're like, Okay, so God gifted her a vagina. She got a heartbeat. She gets a vagina. Again.

From the creator of Barbie. You cannot think about it too much. Don't think about it too much. You get a vagina and a heart. It's not hard to understand. So like, I really love the movie. That lasts like 15 minutes. I was like, guys, come on.

It's like we're getting into the meaning of life. You guys, we were Wizard of Ozzy. It was Wizard of Ozzy. I get it. But again, when we talk about like this movie wants to do everything. It did a lot. Like, it did everything.

I was locked in. I was like, cool. All right. So you just make her human. All right. Oh, we're going to the white void. Okay, cool. All right, cool.

Existential conversation about what it means to be human. All right, man. How much time we got left, man? He can't be too long. Okay. I will say it shouldn't have been 10 minutes. It could have been five. It could have been five.

It's a whole, it's a montage of every woman that's ever lived. Well, that was the thing. That was the confusing part was like, oh, this is Barbie growing up. then it showed a black girl and I went, oh, this is just every child growing up that's ever had a Barbie. Stereotypical Barbie only? I don't know.

But like, I was like, I get what you're putting here, but I actually don't need it. Yeah, like, it could have been like, she really could have the conversation. Oh, you want to be human? Cool. Cool. There's a heartbeat. You go, touch. I'm out of here.

There you go. See you later. Everybody enjoy it. Goodbye. They had the whole white boy thing. And I was like, man. Yes. And by the way, and I don't think that that last gynaecologist's joke was craft.

or unnecessary. I thought it was great. They set it up throughout the movie. They did. How crazy it's going to be when she has sex. No, no, no. It's going to be a wild ride

for that party. I don't want to think about it. What? You know what? I never thought I would say this. I never thought about that until right now. No, I never thought I would say this, but I don't want to think about Margot Robbie having sex.

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Hit the street, grab a can and get after it. All right. Jomey, what do you want to talk to us about? Man, this film is crazy. You guys, you guys ever enjoy a Will Ferrell film where he's got to mess around with toys that may or may not be real? You want to, you know when you love a Will Ferrell movie and he's like the fifth funniest person in that movie? Yeah. It's the Lego movie and it's Barbie. You know?

I was watching that and I was like, I've seen this movie before. Mm-hmm. The Lego movie, but now this movie is pretty good. Speaking of Will Ferrell, the cast, this movie is bonkers. Stacked is shit. Like, it's, it's, I mean, we could go through the list. Like, we'd be here all day. But, I mean, between Margot Robbie, Ryan Gosling, Simul Liu,

Kingsley Ben, Adir, Emma Mackey, like, oh, my. Issa Ray. Oh, my. Issa Ray. uh duelipa john sina in one shot of this movie this is why this is the only part where i'm like they spent a lot of money for people to have like two lines two lines no no no here's the thing again this is like the multi-pronged marketing attack scheme yeah it works if you get duolipa promoting this movie if you get billy ishs doing the song if you got uh god who else was

doing this ice spice and lizzo and nicky minnizzo singing the thing like it's nuts Lizzo just doing that opening. That was so funny. It was so funny. It was so good. And then everything's wrong with Barbie and the next part. Like, great. That part was so jokes.

But, like, the thing about it is you get all these people. And some of them only have, like, three lines. Only there for, like, two scenes. But every single person brings it. Mm-hmm. You know, Chutti Gatawa, the new doctor. New Doctor who? Locked in.

So perfect with Emma Mackey. Right? Okay, so, so this is, you guys watch sex education? Yes, I love sex education. Carter Swindle too. Great show. Everybody's in there, everybody is in this movie except for Assau Butterfield. He didn't get the call.

He didn't get it. I don't think he auditioned. I honestly don't think he auditioned. He, well, he's got to be at bad at this point if it's the entire cast but him. It is. Not only he didn't get Spider-Man, but he also didn't get to be in barber with all his castmates. I know he down bad. I know he down bad.

They even got Bridgeton in there. And that's when I went, damn, they got everything. Every, like, British teen. Relevant. Yeah. No, but the, just the depth of this cast was crazy, but we got to talk about the MVP, right? The man of the hour. He was just Ken.

Brian Gosling is him. It's him in this movie. The funniest by far a person in the film. Every single joke got a laugh. He was derrick. I say in his bag. He was in his bag so deep like there were fries at the bottom. It gets me

retroactively mad that Ryan Gossling hasn't been in more comedic roles. So they talk about that, but you remember the one with him and Russell Crow? Yeah, the nice guys. That was so good. So good. That was so good. Shout out Aaron. Shout out Aaron.

The nice guys' agenda. Nice guys, too, make it happen. It's so good. And every time people are like, I didn't think he did comedy. I'm not saying that you said that because you clearly know. We've been long on this Ryan Gosling funny stock. He's so good at comedy. And this one just like furthered it.

It was like, please, only put him in comedies again. Like, oh, God. Man, when, when the, it's like, it's not, it's like such a silly thing. But they're at the school and the lady asks what the time was. And he's just like, oh, you respect me. Oh, you respect me. She went, um. So you don't have the, so you don't have the, do you have the time.

He's like, I do not. I do not. And he's like, when he goes back to the people, it's like, I would like a high paying, high level job place. One of the clickie pins?

One of the clicky pins? No, it's like, do you have a, you need at least an MBA. Most people have like master's degrees and doctorates. And they're like,

yeah, but I thought you guys did patriarchy and, you know. He said, we do it settled. Well, we do it. We do a lot better now.

Oh, we still do it. Don't, don't get a twisted. So funny. And then when he ran up to Margo Ravia at the same time. It's like, okay, we'll go on three.

One, two, three. Men rule the world. Like, what did you say? I was like, never mind. Dog, I, the scene where he, like, they're trying to convince him, they're trying to, like, get all the kids to fight or whatever. And then, and Raga Ravi's like, I'll be your long-term, casual, long-distance, girlfriend.

And, like, that's all he's ever wanted. And so he goes back, he's like, yeah, just give me one second. kind of sublime hilarious and here's the thing it's ridiculous but I laughed

every single time Ryan Gosling did something he's incredible it's incredible there's a great attitude because we've seen the idea of like a Ken doll before like we've seen it in Toy Story

we've seen it in like other things but to have it be Ryan Gosling being this like braggadocious but like sort of cool but not cool grappling with like an identity crisis because

he only has a good day if Barbie looks at him and he is grappling with the idea of like being the center of attention from all of the other cans when he's like who are you texting? He's like is it Ken? God damn it's Ken! Like the cans are

so funny. It's so but it's also so great because like I don't want to like get it too serious but like there's this weird critique of this movie being anti-men and being very like on the nose about men are dumb and patriarchy is

like the real villain here and all the and which like I would agree that it is but in a comedic way the Ken's not really knowing who they are only in reference to who Barbie is and then having a complete breakdown and going to war with each other

when they fight over what Kendom is, not only is that like a biting idea of like, you know, okay, men and women should have like an equal seat at the table because there's an actual balance here. But Ryan Gosling kind of carries all of that on his shoulders in a hilarious way. Yeah. I think because it's so subtle, people are like,

it is not for men. And it's like, no, it is there. It's also like we find out at the end that like Ken Reel, realizes that the Ken's life is unsustainable. It's not a world in which they want to live. And then Margot Rob, well, Barbie also is like, yeah, I realize I gave you the shit end of the stick. Like, we all did.

So we're trying to, like, trying to reach this equality where we can both live and exist as people that we want to be. Barbie has an indictment against Ken where we're like, oh, yeah, like, you fucked up, Barbie. Like, yes. Ken's, Ken needs time too. It doesn't need to be girls' night every night. Yeah. It sucks that they were like programmed to be like

This is your boyfriend and she's like well now that I realize who I am I don't want a boyfriend And Ken's like well I'm still programmed to only like you and to love you Which is also fair because it's just like there's no Ken without Barbie it's not just Ken That's why I love that speech and it hit me so hard Because I remember my mom got me a Ken doll one year And I was like what am I doing with this shit?

I said what am I doing with right? I was like I don't need this. I remember my sister having a Ken doll and I was like Is Ken cool? I kept him in the corner when I wanted them to play married and then when I divorced them

I threw it out of way sign the papers Ken doesn't want to sign the papers Ken doesn't want to sign the papers because he's still in love he's like we can make this work and I'm like I'm a scientist we gotta stick together for the kids

I'm like what kids not your kids not your kids not your kids Jesus Christ it just becomes that it becomes that TikTok of the kid who's like

you cheated on me with my brother and then everybody's watching I love that TikTok. He goes live now and does full stories. He does great. Great shit. God bless that kid. I don't know who that is, but he makes some of the funniest tix talks ever.

Now, speaking of, like, the Ken's, like, coming to get. Like, they have that scene at the beach, you know, Steve, you mentioned, like, what does it mean to be a Ken? And it's Simi Lou's Ken versus Ryan Gosling's Kins. And the, I'm just a Ken, that entire scene. Oh, man. Like, all right, so you got something to say. No, I loved it. Just keep going.

I loved it. Kingsley, Better Deer, you can spit. How did you, no, tell me how you felt about it. That song, the dance, the choreographed everything of them coming together. They went full like Gene Kelly musical. Yeah, sound stage, Gene Kelly style. Yeah. They went all out in a way that I didn't, like, the movie's already doing a lot.

So you're like, all right, man, you know, how much farther can they go? How harder can they push the bar? and then Ryan Gosling takes off the Mink coat has the leather vest Listen, I've already I've already Bookmarked all the stuff I need. No, you have not. I can't find the kin I think you just have to make it. I think you just have to make it.

The headband you can get. The headband you can get the mink coat is tough. But the fingerless gloves are easy. The leather jacket, the leather vest with the fringes is not Two pairs of sunglasses. Two pairs of sunglasses. It's not hard. and you just got like you just need black

black pants like it's really not that art but that scene where they just go all in he takes off the mean coat and he does stuff the little fight thing with Kingsley Benadir right next to him like this is this is what the shit is Benadier with the best bar of the movie

we fought because we did not know who we were bro he put real voice he puts the coat on it changed his brain his entire it spliced it differently I was like this is engrossed it differently I was like this is engrossed

and this is in Bob Marley. I don't know who this is. I don't know who this man is. And he's living right now. King of Benadir? He ain't his bag. And he was, I liked his character just always like,

always supporting Ken. Exactly. Brian Gosling, Ken, always being like, Ken, what do we do next? Like, Ken, what's going on? Or like when they're watching,

are they watching the godfather? I was waiting for one of them to be boyfriend and boyfriend because I... Same. That was, I think that's what Sugar Daddy was supposed to be. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Was that real? I didn't know the lore about Sugar Daddy Ken.

I would imagine it is. I think all of them are real. I read Margarabi was like, there was a lot of discontinued Barbies that we wanted to touch on, but we just didn't have time. I knew about the Barbie

whose boobs grew. I knew about that one. I didn't know about screen in the back barbby. I didn't know about that one either. That was a new one for me. But that was crazy. But like, again,

this was like the Lego Batman movie where like he's introducing all of the crazy Batman villains where they're like, yep, they're all real. Like, it's worth a Google. Like, take a look for a second. So fun.

We got to, look, you know, I know our boy Murphy, from Oppenheimer, he's getting a nomination for Academy Award, but Best Supporting. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I think Ryan Gosling is an elite actor in this movie. He is a lead.

He is a lead actor in the movie. I think he's... No, best supporting because he supports Barbie. That's the funny thing. That would be the funny thing that the Oscars could do, is they just be like, no, no, we're not doing lead. He is supporting. Then he was supporting Barbie.

He could win that. No, he would lose to Robert Danny Jr. Damn it. And we're also forgetting the Killer of the Flower Moon. Killers on the Flower Moon. That's true. It's a lot of competition, but he delivered something. He should get recognition.

I mean, even through all that, though, Ryan Gosling was hilarious. Helen Marion as a narrator had the funniest line of the home movie. Which was... When, you know, Weird Barbie, they're at Weird Barbie's compound, and America Ferreira is, you know, trying to hype up Seratibio Barbie. It's such as if it was like, Bobby, no, man, I'm nothing.

I'm weak. I'm ugly. And then the narrator, Harry Mirren stops like, like guys we know it's crazy that margarabi is the one saying how ugly she is that that broke the theater yeah that completely broke the theater we were laughing for like at least 30 seconds I don't hear anything else you said after that was funny in your mind when you see margarabi saying I'm not even pretty anymore like your brain just goes that doesn't make any sense if i was america ferrera i would break character so quick and roll my eyes to be like yeah

like you know like your home like your homie you know like just like a beautiful person like man I don't know like I feel like a trash fire just standing next to you Margo Robbie like shut up what are you talking about bro like come on man like that's like the kind of that's the kind of shit that happens in real life

so for Margo Robbie to say that and for whoever on the back end and be like yeah it is kind of crazy that Margo Robbie says that it doesn't make any sense it was in post watching it that Greta went wait we got to add something it's like help me out of it's like that's an apology

to whoever Margo Robbie is saying this to Everyone in the theater will hate my movie if we do not add this one, Ellen Mirren, we have to acknowledge the elephant in the room that is Margo Robbie is the most beautiful person you've ever seen. Yeah, we need a pick up for sure.

Outside of that, I mean, that for me is funny? Is there anything like any cameo, any joke, any moment for you guys that also like made you just like laugh,

go crazy? No, there is a moment in, that I know broke you and I thought that you would have said this is the funniest line. It's when Simulieu's can mansplank.

Photoshop. That was so funny, bro. She's like, I don't know how to work this. It's like, no, you got to use the selector tool and make sure that it's in the first layer. I was belly laughing, bro. I mean, that whole bit where start with the photos. It was funny. It was like they love

explaining things. That was funny. And then the Godfather scene where he's already watched a Godfather with somebody else. And then he's like, can you explain it to me for like 17 minutes? Could you just talk throughout the movie? And it's like, oh, man. I was going to say my favorite part

was when they were like, when Harry Neff is wearing glasses and he's like, I'm not pretty enough and he gets out and he goes, can you take those glasses off first? He's like, hold on, let me show you how beautiful you are. The thing is, which is so, I mean, it happens. And they're like, thank you. Thank you. It happens all the time, but poor America Ferreira as

Ugly Betty, it happened to her like once every season of Ugly Betty. Someone would take off her glasses and be like, you're actually you're gorgeous. And I was like, damn, put this woman in a movie and then have that line in the movie, I'll kill you. I'll kill you at. Because I wanted them to do like that whole Not Another Teen Movie thing

where they're like, now you know everybody's beautiful, but we need a real hugo and it's Margotabye in Glasses or it's so, it's this person. She has paint on her overall. She's got paint. Not Janie Briggs. Can we run it back real quick? Not another teen movie is like perfect.

It was so ahead of its time in too many ways. It was so ahead of its time. Evans walking with a banana in his butt And anytime I see Chris Evans Anything else at Hollywood I'm like nah I think that's like one of the only Proto Ken by the way

He would have been a good Ken If it was like if it was like five Another Ken Ten years ago he would have been a great Ken oh my God The scene when they were trying to When Merrick Ferrer and her daughter were trying to escape And Alan was in the back seat

And for some reason Alan was kicking a lot of ass With the Ken's And they were like Oh we leave it anyway He was laying it down. He said if I sit on another leather couch, I'll lose my mind. Again,

political without being political, once they figure out how to make that wall across and not up. Yes. They were building that shit up. Oh, man. It was fantastic. So funny, man.

Mojo Dojo Casa playoffs. Oh, and then the guy's like, like, he called the Mattel dude, he's like, guys, the Mojo Dojo Casa house? Selling him on the show. It's going crazy. Everybody watching about a movie. Honestly, I would get

the Mojo Dojo Casa house. The Mojo Doge Casa house, he's got the saloon doors. You know what I mean? Like, they got like the big... All horses, they replace Mount Rushmore of Barbies with horses. Horses. Why? Ken's being horse girls are the greatest

is the funniest thing ever. The fact that he lost interest in the patriarchy because he found out that it wasn't about horses. Literally, when he came out of Barbie land and saw like a cowboy or saw the cop riding a horse and was like, that's man. That's man. That's peak man right there. I was like, get this away from me. Because also, great message. Men are victims of the patriarchy too when they find out that it's not about horses.

You were all about it until you were like, wait, horses aren't? This isn't about horses? Wait, horses are how big? Nah, I'm good. That was that bit was so funny. when they get back to Barbland after Ken is taken over and Issa Ray's like

on the beach doing cheerlings like why is the president cheerlings is like I'd rather just give my man a beer rather just a brusky beer than then then be president that makes more sense my brain is empty and I'm loving and I was like all of a sudden I was very

invested in Zach Snyder's cut of the Justice League that had the theater go crazy that was a hot one Alexander's ship that was that was that was so funny. And then that line and Galgado appeared at the premiere. And I'm wondering if

Galgado was like... Spicey. Yes. Yes, that is true. I mean it. Yeah. All right, Jessica. Yes. What do you got for us today? I have... This would have been called the Jess mess, but I wouldn't... I don't want to call it the Jess mess.

Jess's messy room full of Barbies that are strewn about? No, Jess is very well-organized Barbie room. Jess is progressed. Yes. Because this is a very progressive. Progress mess, no. Just progressed. Just progressed.

Well, there's a lot of S's that we can use as nicknames for this. But this is when I talk about, which everyone needs to know about, the cultural impact significance, and just what the Barbie movie is to the actual Barbie doll. Because if you don't know, and if you haven't been listening this entire time, I love Barbie dolls. And I still do. So Barbie has had like a cultural impact on the world since the beginning of its creation, right? It was retailing at like $3. and then in 2010, one dollar is going for over $300,000, right?

Oh my God. So the Barbies have expanded and diversified over the year to reach so many different people, which is amazing because globally and just across America, we needed that. But for a very, very, very long time, this wasn't the case, right? Even if Barbie was a doctor or a president or an author or a poet, she still had these beauty standards and this lifestyle that was from the 50s. And it was just, it felt like it was unattainable and unreachable for a lot of kids because even in that shape of

who she was in her lifestyle she lived in a mansion or a condo or beach house or blah blah blah so people that lived in like shelters or apartments or mobile homes didn't really feel like they could connect with Barbie and this was like a situation that was big because for every like great reason that

there's Barbie there's 20 bad reasons for Barbie right? It's just over time it's called like doll syndrome we start equating the perfection of a Barbie doll doll into our own lives and it's really hard and not able to reach. And I think the Barbie movie by Greta Gerwig

changed that notion completely. And Greta mentioned an interview how important the scene is and Barbie, which we haven't talked about yet, on the bench with the older lady. And my dumb-ass thought that I'm like, oh, maybe that's a cameo from the original creative of Barbie when she died in 2002.

Yeah, she died. Which, oh, if she only lasted a little bit longer, she would have been in the movie. I thought that too. I was like, because we didn't see Pearlman yet. Right. So I immediately was like, oh, that's, that's Ruth. But then, a spoiler, it's the costume designer.

Right. It's actually a costume designer. Which incredible job. When she said, I knew, I should have known she was more important than just an actor. Because when she said, I know I'm pretty. I was like, I should. It's the fact that like Barbie looked back and she's like, she's like, she's special. I was like, yeah, she's got to be somebody.

Well, and that's, I think it's interesting how anyone can take that scene. because when I saw it, I immediately was like, is she recognizing that like having like either wrinkles or just imperfections, I guess, to a Barbie is beautiful? And that's what Greta said in an interview. She mentioned that no one would understand what the premise of the movie was if they never had that scene because she had to cut a lot of stuff. And people were like, you could have cut this scene.

And she was like, no. Because you wouldn't understand what the ending of the movie is. And I think the whole point of the movie and that scene is how Barbie is realizing that humanity is beautiful. and how you can find beauty and flaws because she came from Barbie land that had no aging, no sadness, no negativity. No cellulite.

No cellulite. And now she's in the real world and she's finally finding out that like, oh, humans are beautiful. And I think that's the message that Greta's trying to give in terms of the Barbie doll is like Barbie can suspend belief. Barbie is for imagination.

Barbie is for maybe escapism or control when you need it. But the reality in what you're living is actually what's beautiful, whatever you make of your life, whether even it ends in sadness or happiness, excitement or fear, that's what's beautiful. You as a human is. Right. And I needed that.

And it took till 2023 because we didn't get a plus size Barbie until 2016. Like Barbies now have, what is my note? It has 35 skin tones, 97 hairstyles, nine body types. Like, it has ranged so much, but it still didn't feel like I could be her. And it doesn't feel like a lot of people could be her. But now we're like, no, you are, you are Barbie. You are what life is and you are what's beautiful. I would say the same message was given to the Ken.

but I think Ken had a really big message of like, like I said earlier, that his life was unsustainable and he had to like recognize that he need to be better, or not that he didn't need to be better, but there was more for him. And I wanted to know what your guys' perspective on the Ken's outlooks were, because our Barbies was like, this is beautiful for you. But for Ken's, is it like, what are you doing? I mean, not that many plus sides Ken's on screen. I was going to say, no, I'm kidding.

There is it. There is it. Well, that's also the thing is I don't think Mattel has that many yet. And that's, I will say the marketing for Mattel, I was happy to see myself in a Barbie doll, but I know that it still hasn't reached what it could be reaching right now. Sure. There's a lot of Barbie dolls, Ken, even, that are missing. A Barbie with a mobile home would be great.

Like a Barbie that lives in just a normal apartment with 20 people would be amazing. But instead, we give her in a mansion. We need a eviction notice Barbie. We need, yeah, we need my real life. We did. You know, student loan, past stew Barbie. Border House cigarette-filled Barbie. Yeah.

Food stamp Barbie. Ken that's not making his dad proud. Oh, no. Are you okay, Steve? Do you want to talk? I'm just Ken. But did you feel like the message for Ken came across? No, it absolutely did.

I think because it's easy to write off the idea that Ryan Gossings can or the idea of the Ken's are just these dumb hymboes that are kind of playing around with their toys and wanting to be like, dumb jocks or sitting around and making patriarchy and making world happy for them. And that can inherently seem destructive, but when they only have been given one purpose or have been taught to do one thing and then given everything, not having been taught that, like, no, you can take that responsibility with you for everything. that's a big lesson to grapple with. And it's kind of why Ken has this existential crisis of like, no, I can't, I literally can't be anything with you.

It's the only reason why I did everything else is to make you see how that feels. And the reason that can be on his own and why he wears that dumb hoodie at the end of the movie, I am Knuff. Canuff. So good. that,

no, you know that, okay, first of all, that was a weird shot because, like, he clearly wasn't on set and, like, he's just on a green screen wearing a hoodie. Yes, no, he clearly is. He just waves for no reason. And I'm like, that's going to be merch. I guarantee you that's going to be merch. I can, I'm going to buy it. They're going to have that heart-shaped Coco Chanel purse,

which you know, you know that they're going to do that. I'm not about a Cocoa Chanel purse. I wanted to be known. You see her light up a little bit, I hate that I want that shit. I hate that I want that shit. Every bit of Barbie marketing I've purchased because I'm an animal and I have no self-control. Oh, yeah.

But when I went to AMC and they were offering the Barbie car popcorn, it also comes with the Barbie doll, which sells a target for like $15. But the Barbie doll and the popcorn like little corvette came out to $65 at the AMC. I said, put it back. I said, put it back. I said, I am not spending $65 on this pink corvette. I like how you mobbed yourself or you're like, we're going into this AMC and don't ask me for, don't touch nothing. I was about to. I was like, oh, it's going to be like 45. It's going to be 45.

The doll and that because I know it Target. it goes for 15 bucks right now. And then he was like, just so you know, it's like $65. And I went, no. I said no. You could have expressed that.

We absolutely could have expressed that. Just blankly the stares at Arjuna. You could have expressed that. You could have bought it. You got about eight of them. Arjuna. Arjuna, I'm going back.

I'm going to get my receipt. You can see you on concur. And that's the lesson that the cans have. I think the Ken lesson is interesting because, you know, going into the movie, you think, like, okay, it's going to be Barbie and Ken on this fun adventure into the real world. How bad can he get? And it turns out that Ken is, like, he's not the villain, but he's like, you know, not, like, he's not a good guy.

You know what I mean? Like, so he's like, and he's not the antagonist, but he's an antagonist. You know what I mean? And that like, oh, okay, we're cooking with Greece now. Let's go. And then, you know, the movie ends. And, like, there's that scene with Barbie and Ken. And he's like, yo, player, like, I'm here for you.

Without you, what is it that I do? Do you think that this might be too deep? And I know, I read into things every time. Do you think that the antagonist could be each of them to themselves? Of course. Because I was like the real villain was the box that you put yourselves in. You guys didn't know that you could actually be different things. And that's, that is a, that's going to be, I think, a tough sell for some people because you, like, people will think that this movie is just like bizarre and,

meandering and just silly at points. Yes. And it tries to be self-serious at the end. But really, it's like, the ideas that are put forth are the villains or the bad things that you can think about yourself. You can put yourself in a box and then drive yourself crazy. You can think that you can only be one thing or think that you're supposed to be something bigger when you're not.

And I'm, like, kind of stunned at how well. we could all come away with like, no, yeah, the villain is the patriarchy, but it's also the idea that, you know, we think that just kind of happens when we don't know what we're doing. That just happens when we don't think about other people. Yes, when it doesn't think, it happens when we're not caring about one another. And for that, like, that hits with anybody. Yeah.

I'll take anybody to see that movie. Oh, God. It's really good, man. We are our own worst enemy. Tough. God. The real villain is each of us on the inside. I will still say mine is stereotypical Barbie.

Like you would be that 13-year-old, you'd be like, I'm going to fight you, Barbie. I literally would have squared up with her at 13. But it's also because it took so long, not only for them to diversify for every part of Barbie, but it was still like, even the movie knew that stereotypical Barbie is the first Barbie you think of when you think of Barbie. Yeah, she's like, I'm the Barbie you think of Barbie. And I like that she had that battle with herself that she was like, Every other Barbie has a purpose. They all do things except for stereotypical Barbie.

Stereotypical Barbie's like, I just walk around and I date Ken whose job is beach. Like, and then all the other. Not surfing, not volleyball, not swimming, just beach. When he talked to the lifeguard? He was like, what if you need to save someone on the land? He was not qualified for that. I'm not qualified for that. He was like, I'm not going to do it anyways.

I'm just going to stand here. I was like, Jesus Christ, Ryan Gosling. You're the best. You're the best. But I love this movie. It's a great movie. It's great movie. So yeah, don't see it.

All thumbs down from us. No, we loved it. We absolutely loved it. I think that's what we call it here. I put it high on my letterbox. Oh, yeah? What did we letterbox it? I think I did four.

I think I did four. I'm pretty sure I did four as well. I did four. I'm really stingy on my letterbox writing. No, I'm a harsh grader too. I'm so harsh. Oh, you're a harsh grader, Steve, for real? You just finding that out now?

Six, I'm missing the possible? All right, no problem. What? All right, but that is going to do it for us here. Guys, we had a great time with Barbie. Our life in plastic was fantastic. And that's all what we've got for us today. Thank you so much for listening.

Don't forget, Monday, Ben and Jess are going to be back with the gaming pod to give you their Nintendo rankings Wednesday. Midnight boys are going to give you their season finale reactions to Secret Invasion for Real This Time. and Jess is going to give you the breakdown on Gen V's trailer as well as a little bit of Secret Invasion Talk as well and then Friday House of R is back with their deep dive

on the secret finale, sorry, with the Secret Invasion finale as well. We are produced by the great Jonathan Kerma with additional production from our Juno Ram Gapal in the studio today. Thank you, Junior Mints, for rocking with us again. It's always great. I've been loving doing this. We've been on a great run. I've been a great time.

You guys are perfect. Yes, we are. Jomi, any parting words? Jess. Shout out to the guy, the legend, the king. He's just Kerm. Junior Mitz, we love you guys. Thank you guys for listening.

I'm going to go and sit and play guitar at somebody for four hours. I want to take you for a grandad of Toronto. Bye. Bye. So we're just going to do Wonderwall. Just Wonderwall for four straight hours. Bye, Barbie. Bye, Barbie.

Bye, Barbie. Bye, Barbie. Bye, baby. Bye, Barbie.