The Ringer-Verse - Big Comics Catch-Up: ‘Spider-Man '94‘ Comic Release, ‘Absolute Batman,’ and More

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

Steve and Jomi return for a long-awaited comics catch-up! They dive into ‘Spider-Man ’94’ and share what makes new releases like ‘Exquisite Corpses' and ‘Superman: The Kryptonite Spectrum’ stand out. The duo also revisit ‘Absolute Batman’ and other must-reads before closing with their reactions to Amazon’s announcement of a ‘Life Is Strange’ adaptation.Intro (0:00)‘Spider-Man ’94’ + Comic Book Roundup (6:49)‘Life Is Strange‘ Adaptation Reactions (54:54)Outro (1:00:45)Hosts: Jomi Adeniran and Steve AhlmanProducer: Devon RenaldoAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Services not available in all areas. Hello and welcome into the ringerverse, your nexus feed for all things. Fandom. I'm Steve Allman. I'm Jimmy Dinner on. And welcome back to Mint Edition, the once-in-a-while podcast about all the latest fandom that you just can't live without. fandom like I Carly and

victorious and Drake and Josh and Zoe 101 listen we don't have to get into the rankings right now but if I'm being completely and utterly honest there is a level that Zoe 101 hit to me frankly that none of the shows hit without getting into too many details how romantically formative were certain parts of those shows I mean like to you personally Jomey Dineron

if like we like being completely honest It's just us right now. It's just me and you right now. Quinn and Logan falling in love Chase Montailever. Right. Is that like, oh,

love is real? It was just like, it was something that came out of like, not even left field, it came out of space. But as you watch it, you're like, oh my God,

these people are purged for each other. Oh my gosh. I really, I don't know what love is truly. Uh-huh. Until I saw that. They say love is to be seen. You know what I'm saying?

And they saw each other. I mean, you have like Josh and Mindy Crenshaw. You know what I'm saying? Right. And then in Carly, there is Sam and Freddie, obviously. And then, you know, the reboot or the new series that I did put Carly and Freddie together. Look at this illustrious ball knowledge you're dropping right now.

Brother, man. And then the problem with Vittorius is while it was like, you know, just out of pocket and like really fun and they kind of let loose, there was no like real romantic connections that like, you know, were really solid. You could argue that Jaden Beck, you know, had something. But ultimately, like, it was never fulfilled or ever. reach its potential. And meanwhile, Andre was just out there by himself, just hanging out, I'm saying. He did my Black King dirty, you know what I'm saying? But now he went to Grammys, you know what I'm saying? So it's all good. It's all good. You know what I'm saying? The real always

come up. The real always come up. It always is. It really always is. Thank you so much for that, Joe. Speaking of reaching our potential, we're going to reach our potential to talk about what we're here to talk about today. And that's comic books. It's a long awaited, long gestated and now abbreviated comics check-in from a long, long time ago. We're going to be talking about some comics that came out in this past month, things that were ongoing, things that came out just this week, and things that we're looking to put on your guys's radar if you haven't heard about it yet. What's the big one? The big one was going to be Spider-Man 94. That's going to be the long-anticipated sequel follow-up continuation of the animated Spider-Man series that we knew and loved from 1994 that burst a million memes.

You think they saw X-Men 97 get a call? And it was like, hey, man. Absolutely. We would love to finish. And then they looked at them and they said, we're looking at the budget. It's not really. How about we give y'all a comic book series and y'all go crazy?

Uh-huh. One of four. It's not going to be too much, not too much. Not an ongoing. Not ongoing? No, definitely not. But today we're going to be talking about that. And then maybe a little bit of gaming breaking news that just came out near hours ago.

But before all of that, let's take a look at the old calendar for the program reminders for this week and the week prior. this past week, the Midnight Boys gave you mantle wars. That was a great time. You had fun with that. We were luring and we were mantling. It was great. A lot of fun.

I had a couple of people that were united in my stance on the Andrew Garfield take. Congratulations. There are now three of you. Yes. And that's decently enough. That makes a gaggle of Spider-Man. I'm glad you guys are having fun. I'm very, very happy.

I love that for you. Also this past week, House of R tapped into Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the first time in a very long time, a long anticipated deep dive of that. Everybody's going to have a fun time with that. That's Jessica Luff Hewitt, right? Yes. Yeah, big fan. Big fan of Jessica Love Hewitt. Jennifer Love Hewitt? Jessica Love Hewitt.

See, you and I try to make the joke, it was bad. I was literally talking to Carlos yesterday, and I was like, who was it? And I said, Jennifer Love Hewitt, and it's Nope, it's Sarah Michelle Geller. Yep, Sarah Michelle Geller-Huett. So, it's Sarah Michelle Geller-Huett. Listen, them three-name actresses, man. They were running in the 90s. Brough, you know what I'm saying? A three-name Joel Osmond's.

Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about it. Don't act like he wasn't around. I'm not saying he wasn't, but I'm saying three-name actresses. And you named a three-name actor. Freddie, but do we count the junior in Freddie Prince, Jr?

Nah. Are we naming men now? That's what I'm confused. Listen, we never named men out here. All right. They got enough shine. They don't need that. I just thought we were naming actresses.

I thought we named actresses. See, me and Dev on the same. I was right there. All right. All right. All right. You know. That's crazy that he got,

Haley Joel, but Emily didn't get no middle name. She's just Emily Osmond. I mean, I didn't name her. Next week, next week, the Midnight Boys are going to be giving you their alien Earth check-ins as well as House of Arr for the Earth. Deep dives as more great stuff from us coming down the pipeline. Alien Earth is so good, bro. It's crazy good. Everybody's rooting for the eyeball monster now.

Me too, man. And we're talking about why next week. I'm team eyeball. I'm team eyeball. I don't know if you can viscerally kill barn animals, though. That's a bit of a ding for me. We kill barn animals all the time. You had a steak and egg burrito this morning.

I didn't kill it, though. Yeah, but the eyeball monster did. I basked in its post-mortem glory. Jesus Christ. I did. That's what you do. Every time you hurry up on the Wingstop order, that's what you do. Well, I got to pay the $2.99.

You got to pay the $2.99. The prize, once they get cold or so over, you got to pay the $2. Exactly. You got expeditiously get those fries down. Yeah. And we will expeditiously be talking about some comic books as well as a couple of casting and potential new shows that we're going to be looking forward to in the world of video games. For right now, it's time for comic books. Jomi, I've got a confession to make.

This is a cry for help. I've been cooked ever since we came back from Comic-Con. I've been reading a lot. I have been collecting a lot. Reading's good. I've been spending an irresponsible amount of money on possible collectible comic books. that I don't really know. There's so many things to buy.

Capitalism is popping off right now, and I can't really stand it. So we got into a bit of a poll list of comic books for you guys, but we wanted to start off with the continuation of the animated Spider-Man series that's going to be in the same vein as X-Men 97, Spider-Man 94.

This is Spider-Man 94, a continuation of the animated children's TV show written by J.M. de Mattis with penciling by James Toe, as well as art by Nick Bradshaw and a litany of other variant cover artists that are also really, really fun. This is continuing the story right where the series left off with a kind of. Not really left off.

A little bit happened. Yeah, really? It's kind of like, he goes, you know, obviously, goes into the thing with Madam Webb. And then we're like, oh man, what happened to Spider-Man? and then he comes out with Mary Jane. And that's where the comic book starts. And they're like, oh, man, what happened between?

And they're like, don't worry about it. You'll find out later. So before we even truly get started, we're going to say, like, we're going to be spoiling most of this comic run. I think we both enjoyed it. I think that we would have a great time recommending it. And there's going to be a bit of a barrier to entry if you're not even slightly familiar with the animated series.

Yeah, you can't come into this without watching the show. Because there is a bit of a, like, truncated, like, sum up of what might have happened in, like, the last iteration of this storyline. Yeah. And it's a lot. A lot's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Jomey, what did you think of this comic book?

And how did you like picking up comic books again? Like, reading comics and being in this world again? Being in this world is a little interesting. Because, again, like, after X-Men 97, you know, we're at a spot where you see all these things come back. And even, like, I mean, even, like, before X-Men 97, like, a lot of shit, like, Daredevil. You know, you have to jump back into these worlds that you're pretty, like, familiar with. But ultimately, there's still, like, new things happening.

Like, they're trying to introduce new ideas and new themes into these characters. And I think, again, this is only one issue. So you can't, like, go into, like, too much detail about, like, what they're trying to tell us. In terms of bringing the world back, I thought it was a pretty solid job, you know. He's got the same little shirt on, you know, with the blue striving the green strived. It's very 94 fashion. Yeah, it's, you know, MJ is still dressed like she is back then, you know what I mean? So it just looks the part telling, does it, like, feel the part?

You know, again, it's a different medium, right? You go from, again, the Daredevil TV show on Netflix to the Daredevil TV show on Disney Plus. You go from X-Men animated show to another X-Men anime show. But now you're going from Spider-Man animated show. In the 90s, too, comic book based on such a thing. And so you got to, you know what I'm saying? It's just a different medium. So you got to, like, readjust, like, what you, I mean, I can still hear Spider-Man.

I can still hear Mary Jane. But ultimately, it's not like, it's not like watching it on TV, which is fine. You know what I'm saying? Again, not the budget. What you're the budget? There's a certain great novelty to a Saturday morning cartoon that both X-Men in the 90s and Spider-Man in the 90s gave to us. Right.

And it was pretty much in line with what Saturday morning cartoons had been since time immemorial since, like, the 70s, where a lot of toy tie-ins. maybe the animation wasn't exactly like the most groundbreaking or the most expensive. Some would argue quite cheap. But there was, again, a good novelty to it, a sense of fun and play that we all gleamed from both as kids and adults here.

I would have kind of wished that this story might have leaned into that a bit more. And I don't know how that translates directly from a show that has now gotten a bit long in the tooth and has been the subject of many memes you know get back here shocker and

uh... toxic MJ throwing herself off a building just to see if Peter was for real the end of the end of the end there's nothing really that I sense out of that in this story but then again we don't we don't quite need it at the end of the day we just love a fun Spider-Man story

and that's what these stories have been always blessed for, the comic book page. I think that the toughest thing for me and is kind of the thing that people on the reddits and the message boards are possibly complaining about is that the art isn't exactly capturing the essence, I'll say, of the animated show. Now again, like, I don't want to give too much shade to this

because there are certain aspects of this art that I really, really enjoy, mainly whenever we see Spider-Man And then whenever we see, like, Peter in high-flying acrobatics, but Jomey, he's really winson right now. It's like, he ate 11 right now. So here's the thing, right? Because I, like, there are a couple panels. It do look crazy.

Looks a little rough. It looks crazy. You know, like, ah. But I think, let me, let me throw some bail. Let me, let me throw a little lightsaber out there for the artists. They're trying to mimic that 94 style. You know what I mean? For sure.

And let's be honest. Like, it wasn't like the best animation in the world. Exactly. And 94, you know what I mean? So let's not. not, you know, there's no revisionist history happening here. We're like, man, the animated show was so perfect. I can't believe they would degrade it like that.

Is the art of like super duper incredibly amazing special? No. And there are some panels that will end up on a worst of list in 2025. But trying to mimic a style, again, trying to mimic a TV style on paper. For sure. It can be difficult. Well, so here's the thing, right? Like, because you can be like, Jomi, all they do,

animation is just taking pictures and making them move really, really fast. That's how you get the animation. You sound like an idiot. And like, yeah, you're probably right. But I think, like, trying to mimic somebody else's style probably not, this probably doesn't lead to the best results. And I think that's what we found here.

And I think, but for the most part, the level of playfulness that this story actually has, and we can probably get into the nitty-gritty for the first few pages, it actually is quite self-aware of how silly a, Spider-Man story can be, but it's only up to the reader to really find it because I saw, I watched you read this in front of me

after I had read it and you're like, oh man, oh, here we go. Well, because, so first the foremost, I see like the opening pages, it looks like, I'm like, we're doing more long, we're doing the inheritors. Yeah. And I was like, I can't do this again. Right. Now that, it's like, it's

just like, again, like one of my most formative comic book arts is Dan, Dan Slots, Spiderverse. Right. And the inheritance, man, they piss me off, bro.

It's, they be more lun. It's annoying. It's not great. So it's not that they're solid villains, but it's just like, they don't die. They got all the clones.

Like, it's just, like, extremely frustrating to go up against a character that, like, you really can't kill. You know what I mean? Like,

every time you kill them, they come back. There's always like a doom bot. You know what I mean? And so I'm just like, all right, we're doing this again. And then,

finds out that like the guy who he sent to to track Spider-Man is Ezekiel Sims and I know that Ezekiel has existed in the comics for a minute but it just took me back to Madam Webb and I just what I'm trying to- The trauma of Madam Webb really does loon large now see and and so and again here's why I'm confused because they knew Madam Webb came out before this comic came out I'm sure they had to start working on this comment before Madam Webb came out And so you know that Ezekiel Sims now is in that same universe, baby. And I get it. Obviously, like, there's a connection.

Yeah. But now I just see Zika Sims. I go, ah, man, I can't open this can't a Coke. This is a Pepsi can. Oh, no, man, Pepsi. I'm thinking about Pepsi falling on. Oh, no, Mike Epps. Please save me from the...

No, my, God. You know what I mean? Like, I can't watch that associate out of my mouth. So while this comic like starts off like again, it starts to weave an interesting web, pun intended, of what the story could look like. I'm just like, oh, man. And it's only knowing that we have-

Not the inheritance, man, not his ego-s-sims, man. It's the fact that we know that we only have four issues of this where I'm like, all right, we got a bit of table setting here, a bit of spidey fun because he's back in the groove. He's now remarrying MJ because he watched the clone of her die, and he definitely had sex with that clone. He absolutely had sex with that clone and felt bad about it now that he found out. What's having it?

What do you mean? What happened? What do you mean? Why'd you have to say that? Because it's, he damn near says it in this, in this comic book. They just, they fell in love. Like, yeah, they got married. They had a whole life together.

Then it turns out that she wasn't real. And now you have to imagine falling in love with your person, finally having your person. And it turns out it was not your person. Right. It was a shaggy apparition. Yeah. You know what I mean? That melted away.

And so now you got to look yourself in the mirror and be like, yo. And now look at the real one and be like, I can't lose you again. I can't. I just feel like, I mean, we should throw him a little bit of slack. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but could this also be the Cyclops Phoenix scenario? Oh, with Cyclops and Madeline. Then Maltaire.

I'll tell you one thing right now. Cyclops are better man than me. I'm leaving with Madeline Pryor. I'm sorry. No, that's only because you know that that's the Goblin Queen. As he's a lot for words Brother

Gobbling Queen is right Goblin Queen was right Gobble Queen could have my pin number She's gonna be gobbling something Hey, all right Calm down, buddy Spider-Man 94 It was a great time

It's on shelves now Oh man Look yeah But again I think that the involvement Of the original show's creator Not exactly present here I thought he wasn't involved at all. It wasn't involved at all.

Which, again, like, we haven't needed that in the past. Like, famously, the creators of X-Men 97, it had nothing to do with the original. Right. We had a lot of, like, again, like, trials and trip relations to get that show off the ground. But now that we have a more veteran comic writer to bring this story back to life, I'm very concerned as to whether or not he can kind of, like, lift it back up only in four issues just to, like, tie a nice little bow on... this story. Do you think they could do it? A lot of game left. You know what I'm saying? The list is literally like, again,

four issues. It's the first quarter. You know what I'm saying? The score is, is 25, 22. You know, you're right there. You know what I mean? We're just getting started. Yes. We feel each other out. We're going to see what it looks like when it's all said and done. Love it. So we had a good time, Spider-Man 94. Room to grow, we'll say. Obviously. We've got a couple more things that we want to actually take a look at, though, because I was, like, I've been stuck reading a bunch of books. again since Comic-Con and I've been up on the things

that were newly releasing and things that were like fairly well hyped and had a lot of buzz around them. A couple of these things that we had heard before and there are a couple of these things that you hadn't heard about at all. So I'm going to run down this list before we do this and I want you to pick what you want to talk about

first. I got a feeling that I think you know but we have on this list the publication from Image News from the Fallout also from Image exquisite corpses. Superman the kryptonite spectrum Ultimate Spider-Man and Absolute Batman

Now we've heard of a couple of these We've talked about Ultimate Spider-Man and Absolute Batman a couple of times A great length We love those books But is there anything that you want to start right now I want to start with exquisite corpses All right, hell yeah

Because So you sent me this list And I read News and the Fallout first And I was like This stinks I like it a lot I was like that's, that's, that's, that's, that's what's whack. Here's the thing.

It's that I feel like it would be better served as like a like YouTube video with like all the panels like flashing. Yeah, one of those creepy pasta and not. But some like voiceover. Yeah, like with some voiceover because while it looks like honestly it looks great, the visuals are fantastic. I don't know who's talking. Like there's a guy with a cigarette. Yes, it's very visually distinct. What do you call it with the pipe?

Yeah, yeah. And I don't know who's who. Did you just switch from a cigarette to a pipe? Yeah, I don't know, you know what I mean? But like, I understand it. And like, I think some of the lore in there is interesting. But ultimately I was like, eh, exquisite corpses is like the opposite of that. It's colorful.

It's alive. Everybody's distinct. And, man, when they were filling me in on the backstory of that world, I was like, yo, this is that. Yes. So Exquisite corpses coming from images. comics. This is from the minds of James Tinnon and Michael Walsh. They are

kind of writing something that's pretty again, we've seen this formula before. This is more or less Hunger Games meets Battle Royale meets what else would we throw in here? A couple of, like, mainly like not post-apocalyptic, but like shadow organizations of rich families.

The purge. Very much the purge as well. So we have basically this like shadow organization of the 13 richest families in America who were the more or less real founding fathers, quote unquote. And ever since the beginning of this country, they prop up governments. They basically make an engineer history from the shadows while the illusion of political ideology in America is fake, essentially. And every year on Halloween, these 13 families, have a sort of fight to the death with hired killers that they enlist a la Hunger Games or Battle Royale

and whoever is the last killer standing is the person that runs the country for a year and this is kind of the beginning chapters of that story so Jumby you like this a lot. What made you like this so much? What gravitated you towards this? Because I know why I like it, but why do you like it?

First and foremost, I'll let me some deep lore. Deep lore. I love me some deep lore. Good setup. When Massachusetts is telling the dude like, hey, man, this is how we do things. It's how we always done things. Every five years you do this, I'm like, yes, please to continue to info dump on me. I want to know everything.

And then you get like the introduction of the characters of like New York and Delaware and Georgia, not as people. And you already know like New York is a dickhead. Yeah. And so you're just like finding yourself with these characters as everybody's getting a shuttled in the town. And like what like what card did they pull? The guy pulled the knife. All right.

Now he's got this crazy stabby guy. And then they got the guy with the rope and he's got some crazy. Yeah. He's really good with a string rope thing. You know what I mean? And so like they're just like building this world out that feels natural and feels very organic. And I love every panel. I do have a question though.

Right. Would you take $10 million to walk away from like a serial murder site? Like if they say, hey, we're going to kill all these people. But if I give you $10 million and you just get to walk away and not, you can't contact anybody again, but you can leave. Yeah. You're taking the money? Wow. Maybe.

Steve will let us die. Hold on, hold on. So wait a minute. Wait a minute. Give me the scenario here. Because this is the same scenario. Hold on. Hold on.

So this is a small town. Yeah, it's a sense of the sheriff got. Okay. The sheriff got. I spent my whole life in my hometown. And they're like, hey, man, look, $10 million for you to, for you to get. People are going to die. People you know and love are going to die.

But for $10 million, if you walk away and don't say nothing, hey, you, you're good. It's not $10 million. Probably not $10 million. Wow. But there is a price. I mean, listen, your hometown? Let's just say, okay. How about this?

If you listen to Carson, I never back in down on you. Long Beach, that's a little different. But Carson, I got you. Right. I get ten toes down. I ain't never leaving. How about this? How about this?

How about the people that stayed? There's reason they stay. Wow. Reason they left. It sounds like some revisionist history. That's crazy. I mean, look at the story that we're telling. There's nothing but revisionist history.

That's crazy. I feel like 10 million's not enough. That's what I'm saying. But are we getting warm? What I consider it, maybe, but. How about like a Hyundai? 100 mil? 100 mil.

100 mil? No, man. Just to basically be like, hey, this town's going to get nuked. No, we got to start at Otani. 700 million. Then we can start talking. We just got to get Otani out of here. Yeah, we need, well, first of all.

Safe, safe passage for Otis. Yeah, protect my king. Now, we got to start at Otani number, 700 million. Then we can start having discussions. Okay, okay, okay. But who is the corpses? A damn fun story. It's really because it's a killer premise.

It's a great premise, a very good setup. And I like the idea of a story. that leads us in in Mediorez. All of the exposition, all of the sort of table setting and character work is done very cleverly. Because these panels and the things that only really comics can do

is giving you these images and places and settings in very small chunks and being very concise without having to either overwhelm you or underserved what it's trying to tell you. And as simply, as a story as this is, it actually feels a bit richer because of the fact that there are these small details from characters that you're actually not necessarily picking up on in the first place. To know that the sheriff is leaving a note for somebody who you don't know about, but he's leveraging the fact that he knows that like the gas station attendant isn't exactly like above the law.

Right. But he'll use that leverage just to be like, get this note to her. That's all I'm saying. Well, she likes to slurpy. She's got to come in and get slurpees. That's all that she needs. Like, little bits of character like that really, really immersed me in stories like this, along with very good art. You've read a couple of issues.

I got to ask you, though, without spoiling anything from what you've seen, do you have a favorite killer that you'd be rooting for? Yeah, I would see Massachusetts killer, the Gold Mazz Hummy. I got hit. Oh, lone gunman? Lone gunman. So there's always this great thing. And we'll lightly spoil. the happenings of the first issue

because you've got 12 of these guys and there's always going to be one that goes really like comedically quickly just to like get the action going and get the stakes going I would have kind of loved if lone gunman got killed first because he was the guy

that got the entire story run down. I just make any sense. It's just bad for an area of purposes. It could be. Why would you kill the guy? Was everybody interested? You wouldn't kill Katniss in the first pages of The Hunger Games But actually kind of would be crazy to know that like, hey, you think this is your main character. You think this will be your hero.

But nah. That's a lot of waste of time spending. Hey, let's learn everything about this guy. Let's learn why he wants, what he wants, his entire backstory, his mission, his ethos. Why does he want to win this game? They tell you everything about his life and how it's gone to hell and how he's been shafted by this big, you know, the government. Military industrial conflict.

Whatever, right? His life is garbage. and they're like, not only will we like pay you a trillion dollars if you win this guy. And we'll wipe your slate clean and give your old life back. You could just be like a regular human being like you were before. And then 10 minutes into the book, they're like, boom, he's dead actually. It was all for nothing. They'll spend time with the dude who can't kill nobody.

And then imagine like South Carolina being like, we got him. And then we get to learn more about, you know, Leopard Strong or Rascal Randy. Leopard Strong, Rascal Randy, Dr. Pete. All right. I mean, sure. Nurse Pete, first of all. Oh, sorry, my fault. My fault.

Nurse Pete. He doesn't, there's no attending jacket. I don't know. Lady Carolina seems pretty cool. Lady Carolina seems cool. She wanted to buy a car. She's going to kill that little, that car salesman who's a dickhead. Yeah, that's true.

Rest of peace to him. I'm going to smoke his pack crazy. I'm really, really. And that's a great thing, too. So we also have, not only is this town not cleared out, but we're also getting little glises and pieces. They're just people. Yeah, yeah.

We're just people like, people that are like, oh, I've got to have. have my brother-in-law take care of my son and we got to figure out how this dickhead of a car and churner and salesman is going to be like right like they're going to be going about their days while these 12 murderers are like

racking up kills and there's a there's a trope that they've got in this in this comic book that I love which is the doomsday guy it was always like the conspiracy guy's always like conspiracy theorists yeah man these these get they're putting they're putting fluoride in the water to kill us

And they're doing this in like 99.999% of the time is garbage. But then the one time, the one time they're right. It's like, yeah, man, it's the 13 families. They're running. They're running. They turn the Wi-Fi off. They turn the service off. Man, they're coming for us.

And normally be like, yeah, that's garbage. But since we know what's actually going on, you're like, oh, this guy he's spitting right now. I love that trope. I would be remiss. We are, we do host a podcast. I would be remiss if I didn't ask what is a conspiracy theory that you genuinely are fine with believing.

I'm not. really conspiracy theory guy i think what we're doing is we don't understand these things and we're reaching conclusions that don't make any sense just in order to fill some level of understanding and control over situations that are beyond our understanding i feel like a lot of these things the reason conspiracy theories exist because these events are extraordinary right so for example yeah but you don't think that like no no you don't think cedevi wonder could see a little bit bit. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's just a little bit that they like to do on inside

the NBA. You know, I think recycling might be a scam. How about that? Well, no. Recycling could be a scam. I was recycling the scam. Because like of the environmental impact that it actually doesn't counteracts the amount of things that it actually fixes. See, but you got to get it on a truck.

You got to use, like, you got to use energy to break those things down. You've got to use expendable energy to make the new thing that it makes all of those things. Like, I believe that. I just think we're saying, okay, see, and this is why I don't like conspiracy theories. Because you have to like, so you're saying that it might cost just as much money to recycle something that it, then it does to make a new bottle, right?

Right. But you have to remember. I'm not saying that the environmental impact is like a net negative. That's what you're saying, though, because ultimately what happens when you throw that stuff away, they don't biodegrade, right? So they end up in landfills where they don't go anywhere. They end up in water, which hurts animals and stuff or animals, which hurts fish and all that stuff versus recycling, which just keeps the pipeline going. It doesn't end up in the water.

But also, fuck paper straws though. Am I right? Am I right? That's a scam. That's a scam. That's a scam. But it's not a conspiracy. Right.

Think we, we've got to like. Dev, please. I feel like we have to, you know what I'm saying? People say, we don't, we haven't gone to the moon. That's garbage. Yeah. I mean, I can get behind fuck a page. paper straw, but at the same time are the bamboo ones any better? Those break.

Well, first of all... Bring back a... Just give me the sippy cup. You know what? You're absolutely right. You are absolutely right. Bring back sippy cups. Bring back the sippy cup. When I go to Starbucks or I go to Duncan and they... And this is how I know it's going to be a good one. They give me the big cup and it has the lid that already has a sipper on it. I understand the debate for a straw. Getting your teeth bleached very expensive. I don't think I can get behind your recycling. taking.

But I do hear you. I see where you're going with it, but it's almost, I think we need to let it cook a little bit more. Okay, so you don't also think that there are 13 families that represent the 13 original colonies that are running the government secretly. Steve, you know I didn't read this comic. Okay, well, I would highly recommend it.

It's really, really fun. I would too. The arts great. It's very, like, interesting use of, like, neons and highlights. And, like, it's a different sort of palette down. Yeah, very bright and, in, in, incredibly, incredibly well designed. I got some money on recluse for getting pretty far.

And Fox Mask Killer. I think it's going to be Fox Mask Killer. The design of Fox Mask Killer is too good to not get far. It's going to be him. And it's, and it's crazy, too, because what's going to happen is, Fox Man Killer is going to take his Fox Mask off. And I'm like, I remember you from that one, that one op we did in Syria. Oh, shit.

So Lone Gunman and Fox Maskiller know each other from back in the day. That's his ex-wife. or whatever. Give me back my son hold on. You might be cooking. You might be cooking. Hey, hey, hey.

Might be loving that. But again, Exquisite Corpses is a great, great debut, a very, very hyped comic. This is sold out at the distributor level like three or four times. They've had to reprint this like an incredibly amount, like not since I think Invincible have they seen this level of success

from a single premiere of a book. It's really, really popular. This is begging to have a live. action adaptation made about it. There is, come on, there's gonna be a thing on this. James Gunn too busy

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I want to talk about Superman the kryptonite spectrum. So the kryptonite spectrum, I feel like Jomey's not going to like this as much. I know. I liked it. I just feel like Batman, again, Batman is right all the time. Yeah, no, this is just Batman right confirmed a million percent. Because I'm into it, right? So I'm going to explain the premise.

This comes from writer Maxwell Prince, W. Maxwell Prince, with artist Chris O'Haron. This is the team that brought us, if you're familiar with the horror anthology series, Ice Cream Man from Image, a wonderfully creepy and fun like Stephen King's horror anthology series. He's now writing a more like traditional Superman story. And I think the thing that captures this the most about it, like the premise of the story is Superman finds four new strams of kryptonite and he does not know what they do to him. Right. So he is now going to run experiments on himself. to find out what they do to him before his enemies know what they do.

So it's very dangerous, but he then enlists the help of Batman to do these experiments. What's the first thing Batman say? He's like, that's so stupid. He's like, hey, buddy, this is not a good idea. That's so stupid. Superman's like, no, man,

but what if they use it against me, we won't know what it does. We have to be sure prepared. And to his credit, there is a point. Yeah. Because now, again, if the contingency king here's more contingencies.

He's like, all right, I'm in. Might as well, this is going to be dumb. And then almost immediately, it's like, oh, yeah, this was, this is dumb. This was stupid. So, but what I like about this, actually, and I know that this is probably going to sound wild, I actually love this art.

And it's, now, yeah, and Dev's looking at it right now for the first time, and it's because of how unsettling it is, that it makes this level of like, not even like paranoia, but like otherworldly unease that I think Superman kind of like translates into the world. If you were to like, Deb, if you look up Ice Cream Man, it's one for one, this is the exact same art style.

But to see... I think if you looked up Ice Cream Man, you would just see a bunch of pictures of ice cream, people selling Ice Cream. Right, Ice Cream Man comic. But like Ice Cream Man looks eerie and creepy. Eerie and creepy, but to see that design happen to Superman or, or Batman is so interesting to me because...

He looks like he is filler. He looks like crimson chin. Yeah. Hey, don't do that. Wow, whoa, whoa, flag on the play. Yeah. Respect, Superman. Look at his chin.

I mean, the jaw line is strong, but he's Superman. Look at that. That's the way Superman got out of that jaw line. Yeah. He looks like he's been on filler. Oh, no. He's got to have his shit dissolved, is what you're saying? Like he's got a...

Is giving BBL drizzie. That's nuts. Wow. No, man. I like this. That's crazy. He doesn't even look like he is pecks. It's like the level of otherworldliness that I really, really like.

They did him dirty. It's really, really fun. I just like that this is still, like, it injects the same level of dark and weird humor into a Superman story. Inject was the correct word to use here. Yes, yes, of course. He looks like he's been injected with fillers. Is crypt. Does the pink kryptonite give him BBLs?

I guess that's what it looks like. Jesus Christ. So speaking of the kryptonite, they already have the four in universe. Green, we know what green does. It hurts. Red makes them angry. Black splits his brain into two and gold robs them of his powers. Correct.

And they found four more versions. Purple kryptonite, which takes effect in this issue. This issue. Cobalt kryptonite, speckled kryptonite and rainbow kryptonite. Yes. So we know what purple kryptonite does, which, it scrambles. His perception of time.

Right. And so he can see into the future, see in the past, but it's all like out of order. Yeah. So you're basically living 15 minutes at a time. But did it happen in the past? Did it happen in future? When this is this happening? Which again, this is what I kind of love about comics because the way that this is

illustrated in the comic actually. You're going to have to read it too because we can't explain it. And like, if we explain it to you, you don't have the comic in front of you. It won't make any sense. Because like, because you have like the typical. like thought bubbles and speaking bubbles and text on like narration text. But then you also have this thing that the comic incorporates, which is like a perception bubble where you like it's all in purple and like you can see what Superman sees is somebody

saying something in the future or in the past, but it's completely incongruous to what he's experiencing in the moment. They put the panels out of order. Yeah. And then toward the end of it, once like he's trying to figure. out. As he's kind of curing himself, he is then rearranging the panels of the comic itself. In order like Superman's literally putting the panels in order. It's crazy. You just have to you have to see it. It's it's it's pretty smart. It's mind-blowingly fun concept to have right and it's the thing that comic books can only do and I think for that reason alone is kind of why I love it. No, it's it's a fun read. So we know what purple kryptonite does and at the end it kind of tees Colbolt makes them a giant. It's big and giant

What do you think Speckle Cryptonite And Rainbow Cryptonite? I don't know Rainbow Cryptonite That maybe he just Maybe it's like eating a star in Mario cart Like He's immune to blue turtle shells

Makes him make some stronger That'd be crazy like I've been imagining Speckle Cryptonite Like he turns into like metal Mario Like he just like is incredibly dense And like just sinks through the center of the earth Just like yeah becomes his own gravitational pool Like a black hole

What if like, like, go kryptonite, it's just like, you know, melatonin? You just like pop one. Like, all right, I'm going to see y'all later. I'm going to sleep for eight hours. I can't take melatonin, by the way. That gives me super nightmares. You know what? Not, you are right.

Nah, man. It does mess with my head, too. But only, like, because I also take a couple of other meds with it. And if I don't take those meds and take melatonin, I took night. I took night. I took melatonin one night, bro. I was there.

It wasn't a dream, dude. I was, I was there. Can you remember what this dream was? Sounds like a NyQuil dream. You ever take NyQuil dream? Nyeel dreams are the best dream. What are you talking about? Nah, man.

Easy street with NyQuil. It was something with my family, which was obviously like always scary. But nobody died, but it was just like, I was super duper worried about like what was going to happen. And I was just like, a brother, I was like 10 toes down. It was like I was like awake living somebody else's life. You're like in the shadow.

land. No, no, no, but you ever had those dreams where you wake up and for like two minutes, you still feel like you're there? Like the emotions? I once had a dream, this is going to be really sad. I once had a dream where I had like a daughter. Oh my God. And it was like, I don't know, like, I don't know what it was, but like her mom wasn't like around whatever. Right.

Not like she was gone, but like it was just me and my daughter. Yeah, she was out of the house. And we had a good time. And then I wake up and I didn't have my daughter anymore. You thought that your daughter was going. I was sad. I was sad. I woke home and was like,

dang, where's my daughter? Where's my kid? Man. It's not real. Heartfelt, Jomey. It's not real. But I was like,

dang, where's my kid? And I kind of felt the same way after the military dream. I was like, somebody okay? My family, all right?

I was like, that was a dream. I get that. It's a bad dream. I've been there. I've never taken Belatote again. I'm out. I'm out.

That's nuts. Maybe that's your cryptonite. Like you're seeing into the future. It's giving you. It's giving me real. Yeah. So would you like Batman after that experiment happens, just like, you know, steal a little bit of that probable... You know what I'm saying?

Because what if you got us into the future? For sure. What if you're like, yo, focus. What if we need to, you know, see what's going on? Because, I mean, obviously, Batman, you're going to try to use that to its advantage. I mean, frankly, I think it's kind of genius just to have Batman shitting on just the way Superman thinks about things. He literally took off his mask and was like, what's wrong with you? Yeah.

What are you doing? But it's, but it genuinely is kind of. kind of an illustrating concept to where the way that Superman would approach a problem or a potential solution to that problem is completely the opposite of how Batman would do it. And it's only because he's Superman that Batman's even playing along with this.

And I kind of really, really like it. It's so fun. I still love the art. I don't know why. It's unsettling, but incredibly colorful. Lois looks exactly like Jennifer Garner. And it's a cool fun time. I really, really like it.

Superman the kryptonite spectrum on shelves now. It would be interesting. I can't wait to see what the other ones do. Can't wait. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about one that we've talked about for many, many months, but now has a more recent issue out, Absolute Batman.

Match. I mean, this is still kicks ass. It's great, man. It's great. I don't, so I haven't kept up with all the absolute joints. Right. It's really just this one, Flash and Absolute Subman, even that one's falling off for me. Oh, you guys don't know with Absolute Flash.

I haven't even read Absolute Flash. Oh, no, man. Absolute Flash is going crazy, brother. Is it? Roads. Yeah, man. Jay Garrick. Yeah, it's a whole thing, bro.

It's pop off by now. Can you at least tell me the premise that they change about the character? Like, what's the different thing about Flash in this? Because the conceit about the absolute franchise is that, like, there's always usually one change, like a fundamental change about the character that they start. off with. I didn't know where to start in terms of the differences. Like, Barry Allen was the homie, like, gay, like, Barry, so Wally West's dad is this colonel somewhere, and they go off into, like, this, they're doing the experimental test, whatever. And Barry Allen is just, like,

one of the guys that's working for Wally West. And so Wally brings Wally, he brings Wally, like, hey, man, come on, come through. Like, you know, I know your dad doesn't want you to come see this stuff, but come see it in the way. Yeah, whatever. Cool sign stuff. And then he turns into he turns while he watches to the flash and he's got like he can't control his powers for like two issues. Uh, and his best friend is Gorilla Grod. Like it's, oh, sick. But like a tiny little like, I love Gorilla Grod. You know what I mean?

So it's just, it's just kind of nuts and out there and like the rogues are coming like from the future to come get them. Uh, it's, it's wild. Dude, I literally like, we be beer all day. Okay. Wow. Well, that's a lot more, uh, high concept than, uh, a story like this where-I can't read absolutely Marshall May hunter because I don't understand it. I love Martian.

Absolutely Martian is too far. The only thing that I'm not keeping up with at the moment is Martian Manhunter because I want to read it all in one single. I don't know what I don't know what going on. It's awesome. And it's really high concept and heady and I love it so, so, so much. Absolute Green Lantern is interesting. It seems to be like just a... You don't like black women.

So obviously you wouldn't... That's not true. That's obviously you wouldn't get with it. Yeah, you just don't like black women. But it's just another superhero origin. story it seems like to me yeah and but it's cool it's cool it's it's interesting i mean like i'm gonna say something right now and i'm gonna be brave and i'm gonna be bold and i need you guys support like batman thank you you pointed at me folks there's too many green lancets yeah there is there's just too many

what do you mean there's one it's the black one okay so we have hal jordan okay then there's the black green lancerd that's the only one i would love i would love it if one of a setter name justice lee what's the black green lanter's name death i wish i new. I don't know. Well, I appreciate that. I just, all I know, I definitely, I really do appreciate that. All I know is that, that, to me, that version, the one that I

passed in Burbank, on the WB building. Right, right, right, right. The OG, the one that I watched on Cartoon Network. This is good for Mantle Wars. It's not. This is good for Mantua. Hashtag not mine. It's not Ryan Reynolds. It can't be Ryan Reynolds. No. It's John Stewart. I wish they had put him

in the Superman movie. No. Well, no, we were ready for that. We were ready for that. Why were we ready? Even if we're forgetting Avonster, right? Even if we don't even if we don't even not kind of avidcer. Sure, sure.

You have John Stewart, obviously, you have Guy Gardner, Kyle Rainer, Kyle Jordan, Soldier, this is the new Black Green Lantern, Jessica Cruz. There's, there's like, well, come on, man. Come on. It's a lot going on. Sure. It's a lot going on. I feel like we could cut that in, like, half.

Maybe. Yeah. And frankly, that's probably why the absolute Greenlandard is working. because this is cutting out the rest of the core. It's just Green Lantern. That's just it. Alan Scott, Simon Baz, brother. You made those names up.

Okay, well, Simon Bass is the second black male Green Lantern. You didn't stand up for Simon Bass. He's not my Green Lantern. Wow. Wow, wow. And just, Jessica Cruz, a woman, what happened to send it up for our people? We don't get representation. I'm non-binary.

Where's the non-binary? Green Lantern. That's true. Yeah, where is it? Listen. WB, call me, because we're going to redo the Flash. Honestly, I think the Flash would have been more successful had we used Wally West and done like Kid Flash than Adult Flash.

I think that's, that, Barry's not strong. Wow. We don't like Barry. Well, I love all versions of the Flash, but I'm just saying. Even Jay Garrett, even Bart Allen? That's a different podcast. It really is. Well, what's a different comic?

is absolute Batman Scott Snyder Derogata on the art cooking with gas I was surprised at how much of a presence Bain would be here I mean I think and it's just because you can't

like sit here and say like they had this in the tuck when they made Bain but like of all the like changes they made to characters Killer Crock looks crazy Iceman looks insane Bain is the one

that's taken over the whole plot right like when that one to drop it It's like, yo, what the, Bain can look like this? And, like, they've kept Bain in the story the whole time. Because, like, again, they didn't know that it would take over the world, but I'm glad that they kept that particular character. Because it is insane to look at every single time. I mean, yes, and it's also the fact that, I mean,

Bruce Wayne already is built like a brick shit house. And you think like, oh, yeah, Bain is just muscles. Yeah. But no, it's, there's something the way that he is designed and the way that he is drawn that is so. looming and overwhelming that it kind of just makes you feel like small, just looking at it on a page.

Does that make sense? He's a very compelling character as well. And I think Snyder's really hit a stride here because of the ones that we know aren't ongoing or aren't having a limited run. Absolute Martian Manhunter, it has a dedicated, like, certain issue run. Same with Green Lantern, I believe.

But absolute Wonder Woman and absolute Batman, seemingly ongoing, or at least there's not a projected end in sight, we could keep going with this. And it seems to be still going amazing. Well, isn't this whole thing because, like, Darkside took over and, like, snapped everybody, like, he kind of Thanos to everybody.

Yeah. It's, like, different, like, universes and different little, like, rejigget their origins. So I don't know if we can do this, like, forever. No, but at the mere fact that, like, a story or a continuation or version of this, this Batman could go on, not forever, but like, quite a long time. I just find it's interesting that, you know, they've darksided that,

and they'd had absolute Batman, absolute Wonder Woman, absolute Martian Man Hunter, absolute Flash, and absolute Green Lantern. And I think they're going to come out with absolute Walkal Man soon. And like, it's interesting that that's the leading with seven important heroes, but James Gunn can't do that. I'm just noticing. Well, he can make a, another Superman movie

in between other Batman movies just all just absolute Superman all the time that's it that's all we're in absolute Superman maybe

Superman absolute Superman on the big screen would be crazy what do you think is the most adaptable for a live action film of the absolute

series it's probably is it I mean the easy answer is Batman but I don't think

people want to see Batman with his parents a lot it will look cool it would look he look hell of

if I'm being like I'm really honest is probably, you could get away with a flash joint, I think. You could. Also, I think absolute Wonder Woman probably could have a good run for its money. I fell off. I think that design, oh, man, that design, that art. That design is probably one of the better Wonder Woman designs I've ever seen. It's some of the best art I've seen for Wonder Woman and kind of in general.

If it wasn't Martian Manhunter, because that's just my favorite. that's really something special. I wonder what people would say if they saw Batman with an axe. Just like a big old ass. You just pop that thing right off. And he just out there swinging an axe like he's Thor or something. It's asking a lot. It's asking a lot.

But it's awesome. It's awesome, though. I ain't say it wasn't. I'm just saying he got to like the regular public. Every cover of Absolute Batman is just a heavy metal album cover. And he's really like 6-9 or something crazy. He played D1 football. No, but brother, you six, nine, dog, you mess him.

You got to be in the paint, bro. You know what I'm saying? No, but his size is like he can't rule. He's like shack size. Nah. Like, it's nuts. That's what I'm saying. Like, why is he out there messing with?

We've had this conversation about what. He messing with the wrong jokers, bro. I know. He needs you gar and yokeets in the paint, but come on, man. What are you doing? But we had this conversation before about what position he would play when he was playing D1 college football. Yeah. But, like, you don't think you, I think he's too burly.

He can't be on the court. Now he can. Like, everybody in basketball like six, six, ten. You good. Oh, what's his name? Zion. You know what I'm saying?

Six, nine, freaking three, three hundred pounds. How tall is Zion? Six nine, six nine, six, right? Six nine, six ten. Unless he's six seven. Six, six six. Sixth, six. Yeah.

I mean, because he's not, not that it matters. He's a four. He's a four. I mean, in shoes, he probably like, you know, Six, ten. Man. I'm trying. What about three burgers in his mouth?

All right. That's, come on, man. That's not funny, man. He's dealing with Stephen Smyth. There are chefs in New Orleans. Waiting to see him. Don't do that. Come on.

Come on. Video games. Good. Fun. Good fun. Jesus Christ. Comic books. Fun.

Yes. Great. We love them. We had a great time with them. I also have a small gift for you. For a further reading assignments. Right, right, right, right. I'm excited.

People can't, they can't see this, by the way. They can just hear us. It's mainly just because I need to give some of these away. Oh, well, okay, nice to know I'm getting scraps. It's not the scraps. You're getting Battlebeast from the Invincible Universe. Oh. First two issues.

Hell yeah. From Ryan Otley and Robert Kirkman. Robert Kirkman. I talked to Ryan Otley about this. Yeah. Way back on. We had a conversation. He was really excited.

about this. I can't wait to dive in. So I recommended this on the latest episode of House of Art a couple of weeks ago to really read this and I have a real fun time with it. Not to spoil anything that happens in the invincible universe, but the character of Battle Beast is something real fun. I will spoil it

because it came out a thousand years ago. He's super dead. And so we get to find out what made Battle Beast super awesome. So I can't wait to dive in because he's a character that especially in the comics, everybody, like terrified. Like, what the fuck?

Yeah, like people respect that'll be crazy. And so how did he end up in that Viltramite prison at the beginning of season three? We will find out. We will find out. Jomi will find out. But that is something for Jomey to enjoy.

And now we are going to move on to a little bit of breaking-ish nerd news something that's very near and dear to Jomey's heart. I don't want to talk about it. I mean, we're probably going to have to. I don't want to talk about it. We just might. Okay.

Tell the people. So the right. The rights to a one video game called Life is Strange have been brought over to a one Amazon Prime, and we are getting a television adaptation of Life is Strange. I'm sorry I had to break that news to you. It was genuinely like nerve-wracking to see his reaction to all of this. We used to have it all, man.

And now this is this where we get the live action. Okay, why would this be so bad? Why would this be such a bad? Why do you think, man? Why do you think? This is the same, same network that's doing the summer I turn pretty. Now, I have not tapped into

the summer I turned pretty, right? But it is blowing up. Everybody is upset as something. Yeah. And if you think they're upset as something now. Get ready for the discourse. Oh, no, man. Because even if they get it right,

they're still the decision at the end of the game. Exactly. There's still the decision at the end of the game. And we, like, how do they play that? Do they save Arcadia? they say of Chloe. People are going to get upset either way. They've been upset for 10 years.

Okay. Can I offer you a fix? Can I offer you a fix? There is no fix. There is no fix. There is no fix. There might be a fix. We're not going to be in the TV.

It's not Banner Snatch. I can't like pick an ending. You know what I mean? Jome. Jomey. Jomey. And that's if they get it right. That's if it's perfect.

If they don't get it right, if they mischaracterized Max, they mess up Chloe. Oh, dog. It's cooked. It's Joe. Jomi. As a man who has been a constant

proponent of Love Island. No. I don't think that you see the potential here It's not the same. Of having America vote in for what the main cliffhanger ending decision

is at the end of each episode. Oh man, you trust America? Yes. That's a white man. That's a white man for you. It's not that I trust America. I trust the chaos. I trust the chaos. Let's go look at the maps in 2016 and 2024. Let's just for the love of I think we, do you think we voted the right ways on

on Love Island? No. No. No. We haven't voted the right way in years, brother. Are you kidding me? I don't trust. But the Love Island votes have been terrible. I don't trust people. I do not trust y'all to make good decisions. I'm sorry. I don't. I don't. And so ultimately, this video game series near and dear, like it's, you know, like at this point, you know, 11 years old. Yeah. But legitimately a great time, great characters, a ton of fun. But it's a lot. Man. That's a lot. It's a big ask, but I really, really think that this is a good, this is a good fodder for TV. I do.

I don't trust them to do it right. It's one of those, like, choose your own narrative types of early telltale-esque games that caught fire mainly because of the idea of choice being kind of the problem where if you realize that there isn't something that you didn't like doing, you can conotically rewind time and make that decision over again, rather than what we're. we call save scumming and basically just reloading the game to remake that decision max coffe will basically be doing the whole time sure and yes that feels like like quite literally a cheat code when it comes to narrative storytelling on television but i feel like there could be some fun with that and i don't know maybe it's not that crazy of a take to make it love island seemed i don't know love i don't think brother you're okay i mean vote in you would never do that you would never not where it's not I'm not saying all the decision.

I'm saying like the main like pick the love interest. Does Robin survive? No, first of all, Chloe's, they got to put Max going together. They got to put Max in the way. You couldn't. No, no,

see, this is, this is why I don't, why would you, why would you not do that? Like, why would you mess around and, and mess up like what works is the, is the thing. I just don't, I don't see it, right?

And it's going to be crazy hearing somebody be, Corey Price, that's not Ashley Birch, right? Like, it's always going to be weird. You know, you want to give, you want to, like, again, give grace to the creators and like, hey, you know, we'll see what it looks like when it's all done. Like, it's not.

But you just don't think it translates. You don't think that a game like this translates. And it's crazy, too, because this, like, is obviously, like, it's just, it's a beautiful story. It's a story. It's a very linear story. But there's, there's so many ways it could go wrong. It's just like,

I don't know. I don't know. Well, with Jomi's skepticism, we can leave it there and know that we've got a lot more things to look forward to. Many more things on the Ringgiverse feed. So much.

Such as Alien Earth from both House of R and the Midnight Boys. We've also got more button mash coming. We're going to be talking about Silk Song in the coming days and weeks. And we want to have a big thank you. to our wonderful producer, Dev,

who has been with us to deal with all of this foolishness and even offering some foolishness of their own, which we won't comment on any further. What? What does that imply? What does that mean? You just go leave that for the people to imply? Like, oh, that's kind of weird.

I don't know what Stephen said. Just slandering my conspiracy theories. It's their bad conspiracy theories. These were all in the spirit of good fun. This is like light bullying? Like, is this like a medic? Like, take down. on the Reddit for being weird.

HR? It's happening. Violation. And then can you just have a dial tone? Dude. Jesus. That's what it is. Well, this is what it is.

This has been fun. This has been fun. Grand opening and grand closing. To you, Junior Mints, thank you so much for listening. Jomi, do you have any parting words for us? Thank you guys so much for tuning in. We love you guys.

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