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No, no, no, history. Just like, hey, man, like Nigerians, you know, I'm not going to say, I was going to say it's been hard, but it's been hard for all of us black people. You know what I mean? But like, how it is be Nigerian? And y'all need to learn and respect it.

I won't need to learn shit. I'm going to watch the video. No, no, no. By the end of the episode, honestly, we should all watch it together. I will watch it. It's four minutes. I don't know.

I will watch the video, but I think it's pretty evident. The people that tell me that Nigerians have a different relationship to generational trauma and all of that. All right, man, that's one guy. That's one guy.

I'm not messing with him. I assume that there was all to say that. Shout out to him. Shout out to everybody. It's all gravy. Some of my, I was about to say some of my, oh, you know what? Speaking of the Nigerians, Waleigh drops today. How about that?

That's right. Let's talk about the niggas we fuck with. Like, Waleigh drops today, go get it. One of the best rappers making some of the best rap out there. Wilee drop today. Go get the Wala. A lot of running, mixtape. about nothing.

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It's a great game. It's a great game, guys. They got you fucking. Nah, so here's the thing, right? What's the game? Dispatch. It's a wonderful game. Actually, the creator, one of the creators, Pierre, shout-out Pierre, he's a fan of the podcast. Oh, shit. Wait, the nigga created the video game?

Yeah, he's the head of the studio, was the narrative director. He's the head of what studio? At-Hawks studios. And he got a video game on? Yeah. Is it a game popular? Yeah. The game is the most popular game on right now.

Okay, fuck fans, Pierre, we're getting some money. We have our own ideas for games, Pierre. I don't want to, I don't want people that are fans like Pierre, is. I know Pierre likes the, he's a fan of Midnight Boys or I've had a button match. Pierre, no fanship. We got to get money. If you watch, if you're watching

this show, like, if you have any emotion in the industry, you're watching this show right now. You got a ton now. And you like, and you like, oh my God, I'm the head of development at Lionsgate. No, we, you, if you really fans of us, bring us in there and it's time to get money.

The only thing I know about this video game is I keep seeing cutscenes where it's like, Like, do you want to kiss the blonde bomb shell? So my thing is this. Pierre, no, that's the type of time and we all. Pierre, what about us? Wait, am I wrong? Is that not part of the game?

That is absolutely part of the game. That's like the main attraction in the game. Jacking off? But the problem, kind of. But the problem is, so I talked to Ben and DC, shout out my guy, Daniel Chin. And I, I'm, he talked to, Ben talked to the creators of the game, to Pierre and another one of the fellas. and apparently I messed up so incredibly bad that those guys were shocked

at how bad I messed the game up. It's basically like a choose-your-own adventure and like it dictates like your choices in the game dictate like the ending of the game and how things play out. It's like a TV show that you like make your own decisions. And I got the bad ending. Am I trying to play this game?

I got the bad ending and I thought like it was regular degler and they were like actually no the only way you could have got that ending if you were playing with your eyes closed in the dark with your butt cheeks and I was just like, wow kind of yeah it was tough

so this shit is blown up it's going up it stars Aaron Paul Jeffrey Wright it's got on it so he fans of them too he put them in the game I'm not fucking with Pierre like it is they turn on you

Pierre hey I mean I will love to be the game you know what I'm saying but we love you bro I heard they cut out the sex scenes though no they did absolutely they did not wait you wait so wait No, no, no. You guys always are getting on different people.

Y'all playing goon. Y'all fucking on the video game. I promise you that's not even close to the gooner games that are out there. Marvel rivals is more of a goon or not a glee. Did you fuck? No, the woman in this game. You can't actually have sex with them. It's just a little cut scene.

But hopefully he sees it too. Right. So what, so what? We get a quick time. This fact. What platform is this special? It's on PS5 and Steve. So you can play it.

We can get you a code, man. Shout out, bro. Yo, give me a code. Or you want to support my man, Pierre, $30. No, I'm a buyer. I'm a buyer. I'm going to do something that Pierre doesn't do. Give us money.

I'm going to support. I'm going to do something that Pierre doesn't do. I'm going to support Pierre's economic endeavors. Right. Because Pierre got the hook up and he puts Aaron Paul on it. You know what? You tell him voice Robert. I'm going to support because you know what?

I watch Pluribus. You know what? Great shit. $15 million an episode, by the way. Oh, it's worth it. Worth it. I was going to watch the world. Do you know what?

Whoa. No spoilers on the third one. I will, I will just say, if I was in that world, there's a couple of celebrities. That Frenchman is my goat. That Frenchman. I would like to write Air Force One. Come on, man.

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at your local retailer in the creamer aisle. Friday's, yeah. The Midnight Boys react to the Running Man and the official confirmation of Superman 2's villain. Running Man, spoiler warning. This will be a spoiler-filled episode for all things, Running Man. And that includes the 1987 Running Man

that stars Arnold Schwarzenegger, Richard Dawson, Jesse Byventura's in that, I think. So that movie will probably be talking a lot about as well as the Richard Bachman novel, Richard Bachman, of course, a pseudonym for Stephen King, which this book, this movie is very faithfully adapted from. We have to get into the Midnight Manifest to put you guys in the know about the movie.

But before we do that, Steve, run the spoiler one. We're getting ready to talk about the running man. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. All right, this is your midnight manifest for The Running Man, directed by Edgar Wright, screenplayed by Michael McCall and Edgar Wright, starring. Glenn Powell, Lee, Pace, Michael Seria, Jamie Lawson, Coleman Domingo, and Josh Brolin. All right, so, Glenn Powell, aka Ben Richards, is a desperate out-of-work and blacklisted father

running out of time to carry his young daughter of the flu. To get his wife and daughter out of poverty, Ben decides to audition for the dystopian media network that ruled co-op city in the larger world. Ben's fiery passion and anger catch the eye of producer Dan Killian, who selects him for The Running Man, a deadly game show where runners try to evade assassins. If they survive for 30 days, the winner gets $1 billion, but no runner has ever made it that long. Ben promises Killian that he'll return to kill him, though. Ben is then joined by three other runners, Jenny and Tim, and given a 12-hour head start

to chase the trio. But our hero quickly learns that Killian, along with his head hunter, Evan McCone, will go to any lengths to manipulate the players and audience in order to provide the most entertaining show. Through Ben's guile and determination, he becomes a symbol for the poor to stand up to their game show, TV oppressors. As the game nears an end on a network plane, Killian tells Ben that his family was killed. Since the grieving father has nothing left to live for, Killian offers the popular contestant a chance to take over as headhunter. Ben kills the airplane crew, Evan, and face his own death, but becomes a martyr in the process. And then at movies end, Ben reunites with his family

and makes good on his promise to destroy the running man competition and Killian. That has been your Midnight Manifest for the Running Man, I will start with you then. What were your thoughts on this movie? Didn't like it. And let's have a conversation about the movie. So the movie is a very faithful adaptation of the book. I talked a little bit about this on the big picture with Sean and Amanda.

All right. If you go to see the running man, will you not have a good time? No, I'm not saying that. There's a lot of fun to be had in this movie, particularly in the first portion of it, right? The first act and a half, two acts, you can have some fun. The movie falls off so dramatically by the time we get to the last part of it, that it ends up just, not being something that can hold itself together. That's one thing.

Second thing is this. Let me get back to the adaptation part of it, though. You're adapting this movie from the book, the book, which is a completely different tonal experience than most things that you go to the movies to see. The book is a look at a dystopian future through this playing out of this game. But the book has a very direct,

purview into that, right? In order to make this movie and be that faithful to the source material, you'd have to do either one or two things. You'd have to either make this a lot darker, like a lot darker. Yeah. And more about the relationship between Ben and his family and Ben and society and more about, almost like they made, you know what? You know what? A good tonal comparison to this movie

it would be like Escape from New York. It would have to be something in that vein that has that type of feel to it. But this film try to kind of

split the baby a little bit and be a zany, wacky action movie and also be a look into this whole dystopian world and they just they don't meld very well.

That plus something else. I know it is heresy to say anything negative regarding this particular actor. He is the number one most liked guy around, and I like him. Yeah. Like them in Twisters. Like them in Topcom Maverick.

Like them in Hitman. Hit Man. Like them in the Dark Night Rises. Like them in all of this stuff. He is miscaste here. Yeah. And it if maybe he could have masked that with something else, it might have could have worked, but it just doesn't work in the totality of this film. It just doesn't.

This is one of those movies when you look at all of the ingredients on their own. You're just like, oh, I can envision this in my head where you look at what Edgar Wright has done throughout his filmography, and you're just like, oh, I can see exactly what he saw in the Schwarzenegger version of that movie and the kitchy feel of that, but also the darker elements of the Stephen King book.

And you could see in Glenn Powell, you're just like, yeah, Glenn Powell is charming in interviews and in this and that. And when I sat down for the movie, to your point, I was like, oh, this movie wanted to be everything, so it's almost nothing. And I think the other thing that when I, like, took a step back from it,

I think it's dealing with is that we're almost, living in a world where we've gotten so many running man-adjacent movies, where this is almost become an industrial complex of its own, whether you think of hunger games or squid game, I think we've gotten a lot of these like movies and stories about late stage capitalism run amok and what people will do on these game shows to feed their families or to save themselves. And this movie almost seemed like it just came like 10 years too late. Ten years too late. Not only that, but those films also have a very direct commentary.

They're saying something about that. The show that they tease at the beginning of the running man where the guys run on the hamster wheel, they would make that show. Yes. I'm looking at that where you're running on the hamster wheel and you're answering questions as your heart rate goes up. When I'm watching that, maybe in 1985 or 19. 1995 or 97 or whatever, seeing that on screen is so jarring.

Like, oh my God. I'm looking at that like, shit. They will put that on. That's all Netflix. Maybe that a real sweet game coming up. That's just the crazy shit ever. Coming up after the mass singer, we have hamster wheel. So I guess what I'm saying is to all of this is that obviously this

has something to say about all of those subcommittee. that you just brought out. But it won't shout them. Yes. You have to shout them. Squit game, you see the violence in the show. Hunger Games, you see the ripping apart of families.

You see the scarcity. You see the deviousness and the inhumanity of the capital. It's there, and it's in the air. You have to grab it. This film is, like, eating around the edges of that. It wants to be a four-quadrant

movie about dystopia and it just doesn't get there. I think the biggest indictment about the film is that it's predecessor's movie that came out in 1987 has more to say about late stage capitalism and AI than movie that came out in 2025. Like it just does. It's weird and it's baffling and I think, I mean, we'll talk a lot about Glenn Powell, but I think a lot of it lays at defeated Edgar Wright, honestly, because this is the least egg-or-right, egg-or-right movie I've ever seen.

Yeah. There's no flash, there's no substance. It's not a lot of fun, which I think is the worst part. You've got Glenn Powell, you got this entire universe, and I know that you want to say something.

There's a message to be said, but again, the first movie is, like, it's silly, it's zany, you know, they've got all the one-liners. It's very late 80s,

but at least I'm watching, I'm having fun watching this movie. For this one, like, there are some scenes. The movie does have some, picks up some momentum, him and then it just like literally like halts in his tracks and stops and you're sitting there for the what the next like 40, 45 minutes going like what am I literally what am I doing here?

Looking at this movie as a big Edgar Wright fan, he's one of my favorite directors. He's made some of my favorite movies. Seeing something like The Running Man again, like Charles said, like the match for this property for a director feels like it's made in heaven because he is a fan of these movies. He is so good at paying homage and making great send-ups to these classic genre films. Hot Fuzz was an amazing send-up to action films. Sean of the Dead, a perfect send-up to zombie films, along with being a great comedy. This is something that a person that knows how to make a good homage can handle,

but it doesn't seem like he has a good handle on what the actual substance of the satire can be. It's what makes Robocop something that's both immensely satirical and a great action movie. He kind of knows how to make a great comedy and a great action movie, but the actual substance of a satire is something that's like not too nuanced for him, but I think is slightly ignored in this adaptation. You know what? I think that if we'd have paid more attention, we'd have, and if we had more of a relationship with the novel,

we'd have realized that Agar Wright is actually not the right person to direct this film. Possibly. because I haven't read the novel because I've saw the movie I was like oh Edgar Wright can make you can make that movie Edgar Wright's temperament with the running man home run right yeah you just think his way of doing his thing home run

but when you think about it there has to be a sinisterness in this film and there has to be a directness to it that's kind of not what he does. When you, like,

when he, he's an incredible author and like, is always has something to say and always, to your point, is able to take a genre and bend it, but like,

this movie didn't need that. No. This movie needed direct commentary scene by scene, and it needed an actor who could say, I'm emiserated

and I'm fucking angry about it. Not I'm kind of mad. And it needed a director who could say, This is a society that is so broken that people have to put their lives on the line. Not that they're kind of having fun. Not, it, it, it, it just wasn't, it almost was like, it almost seems like the movie that comes first that directors learn from. Didn't go, didn't go, it would have seemed like this film would have been the first running man that was made and the running man that was made.

And the running man that was made is perfected and honed. been the second film, and someone just goes, you know what, brainless violence where there's a clear antagonist and a clear running for your life type of situation, that's what this film needs to resonate with people. Also, is this the ugliest looking Edgar Wright movie where when I was watching this, I was just like, this could have been made by anyone. When I watched like Sean of the Dead or like Scott Pilgrim or whatever or Baby Driver, there is just these things where I'm just like, oh, I'm from the story.

script to the sims for everything. I'm like, oh, this is such a thought out world. And the world of the run- I was like, it was just like bland and just kind of generic. It just felt very much like... There's a visual language that you get with Edgar Wright that was,

to your point, completely missing. This felt like anything that we've seen over the past, like, ten years. You see tiny glimpses of it. And I got so upset because there was a moment in the trailer that we see this. You've seen this in the trailer where there's like, he's like running from the assassins and like, there's this one like long tracking shot where like a drone goes out from outside of a hotel through

the hallways and there's bullets flying and everything and he runs down into an elevator and that's the thing he's like I got the grenade that thing and in the movie there's like this CTV filter on it that like has this like terrible frame and it looks like you're watching it on TV and it kind of just dulls all of the edges of the beauty that that shot is and that's kind of a metaphor for this entire movie every sharp edge that Edgar Wright has in his repertoire that I know that he can deliver on something that's both action-packed and funny. Like, he's really good at, like, slapstick levels of action here. And it just fades away because it tries to, like, make this, like, sort of look or aesthetic

that never really hits for anything in this movie. There's no visual identity to the movie here. Let's discuss Glenn Powell. Because Glenn Powell is the... In many ways, the Anthony Edwards of... of movie stars. Lock me in, lock me in. He's an Anthony Edwards of movie stars.

Okay, so Anthony Edwards comes into the league. He is the number one draft pick, although still kind of unknown into what he is going to be. Right. All right. But what does Anthony Edwards look like once you start watching him play? He starts looking like the classic archetype. The classic two. The classic two.

The classic NBA superstar, charismatic, hyper-athletic, and a guy who can explode and take over a game. You go, there's your guy. There's your Wade. There's your, not Kobe in play, but. More Jordan, really? There's your Jordan. This is the guy. This is the easy guy.

This is the guy that if everything meets up, this guy takes off. And he's charismatic. And he's charismatic. Yeah, in a world where most, like, basketball players are very boring and manicured, you're just like, oh, the character matches the play. There's an authenticity to him. Yeah, exactly. That's what Ben Powell had that thing where you're just like, oh, in interviews, you're just like, oh. I like them.

You like them. This is the guy. Handsome, not in an overwhelming way. Charismatic, you can connect with them. The guy you want to be the face of your league. Tom Cruise before, sorry. before the cytology. Yeah, the guy you want to be, like when you look at Brad Pitt,

Brad Pitt was always going to be a little bit too weird to be in that mold of what Tom is going to do. Leo was too successful right out kind of the gate to be that. Yeah, so you're, so, but Tom Cruise was the All-American, this is what you want. And then what you, and Ann is having a fantastic career. He's a really great player. But you keep waiting, you keep waiting for the moment that he will dominate so much, much at the craft that it will be undeniable

that he is the number one guy. That's the Glenn Powell thing. He has all of it, but he need to go win a championship or MVP. Or at least get to a finals. Like, right, not saying that he hasn't, and has had big moments, and so is Glenn.

He's had twisters. He's had anything but you, anyone but you? Anyone but you. Anyone but you. Big joint with Sidney Sweeney who could kind of be the job of,

uh, no, no jump shot. Like, not hustling. You know what I'm saying? Was, was doing just fine,

had taken everything over. Hey, everything's fine in the West. Oh, yeah, off, everything's fine in the West. Everything's fine in the West.

Then all of a sudden, you see her with NBA Trump boy and, um, NBA Trump boy. If there's an issue, I'll talk about it. But two, back to the point of Glenn,

I don't know if this movie is, uh, is going to stop his momentum. him this much because I still expect this to be pretty successful. But it is one of those joints where you have a dozen of playoffs and we start to wonder, is that movie star thing going to happen for him? Is it supposed to happen for him or do we want it for him? Does Glenn Powell as an actor at this point have the range where I realize in all of the

other movies that I've seen him in, he was asked to do a very, very, very. specific thing, but I don't necessarily know if his charisma or like the depths of him, like this movie requires him to be angry. It keeps telling you, this is the angriest person on the face of the planet. And when Glenn Powell tries to play anger, I'm like, oh, he's acting. Yeah. Like, it's like, I can tell he, it's hard. He's forcing.

But he's miscast. Yeah. And that's why. And I think, I think that's the portion of it to where I'm willing for there to be a little bill. Because like, after a while with Tom. Cruz, Tom Cruise waited to later in his career for collateral. Tom Cruise waited for later in his career to try to pull off the vampire list.

Like, he, I don't know if Glenn Powell at this point is, is right for this role. That's where I'm at. I'm, like, I think, I got to throw my mansum bail because the whole point of, like, Glenn Powell is charisma embodied. Like, that's his whole thing. And this character has zero, right? And so you're asking to bring it back to, you know, throw another basketball out there, you're asking Clay Thompson go out there, but you can't shoot

threes. Like, what are you supposed to do when you, when you're Clay Thompson, you can't shoot threes? Uh-huh. Like, it's, it's just hard. It's just tough. I feel like I would go with that analogy if this movie wasn't structured in the way that it is because I might be a little bit more punishing to Glenn here, because the entire structure of this movie is him being ushered from scene to scene with partners that he has to act across screen with that will out charisma, out-act and outshine him in every other moment. Right, but I think that's also a product of the script. But it's a product of him being this cast.

But it also makes me feel like he couldn't find his footing at any scene. Why don't know who he actually is? Because they're in the right movie. Right. And like Michael Sarah's in the right movie. When Michael Sarah comes into the movie, he is. When Michael Sarah comes into the movie, he's madcap, all ball. It completely becomes an egg or right movie.

Josh Boland is in the right movie. Josh Bolin is in the right film. Comed Domingo. In the right film. All of these people are in the right movie. They're in the right movie. And Glenn Powell is not in the right movie. You know, Glenn Powell, to me, an actor who went through a similar trajectory to me is

like Matthew McConaughey. It's the same shit. Matthew McConaughey great in rom-coms. And there was a moment where they were trying to be like, can he be a star? Can he be a star? And it was kind of backfiring. And it wasn't until like Dallas Buyers Club and True Detective where like Matthew McConaughey kind of locked into the next stage of his career.

and what he needed to be. And I'm just like, oh, Glenn Powell needs a lot more. Like, he should have done more rom-coms, in my opinion. Like, he needed a couple more linear or something. And that's not the landscape now, though. But, nah, but that's why I'm, like, willing to, I'm not, obviously, it's just one bad. Yeah, we're not giving up on him. But I'm watching anyone but you, and he's carrying that movie.

Yeah. On his, on his back. You know what I mean? And so, like, I can see it for him. Yeah, Hitman. Hit Man. Hit Man genuinely made me believe in him. Like, because I was like, oh, he could have.

You believe in him because he showed it. It's there, right? Yeah. It's there. But what I'm saying is that like, and by the way, this happens. Yeah. On your rise, everyone, we are so hyper-focused on every single thing that everybody does. Even in the NBA, as we talk about Anthony Edwards, why don't we just let them play the games?

How long has even Anthony Edwards been league? He's been in league for a while. So, like, 2020. So, like, five years. But, like, that's kind of like, Glenn. We're just like, five. years is a long time, but in the stretch of just like a career,

you're like, it's not actually that long. Right. No, so that's what I'm saying. You, when you see all of these traits in somebody, you want them to be, this is the person to take over. You want them to be Wembe right away. Even Wimby, though. But no, no, no, but he was getting hurt.

You throw a double team at Wemby, sometimes Wembe don't know what to do. Well, DeAndre Aiden is the real cryptonite. Right, you know, you what I'm saying? Yeah, Dandre A, you know, it's dominated. But, but no, so. You know, and these are lessons that are learned. Yeah.

And they get learned in big ways by actors sometimes. And McConaughey, with everything that you're saying, once again, this is later in the career. His face had changed just a little bit. He had also built up to that. What was the movie that he played when he was, was it, Mud? Mud was great. He had, no, he did Interstellar before or after that. Yeah, he started, he, like, I'm not sure if it was before.

No, Interstellar was, I think it was Dow 14. And then it was true. No. Interstellar was 2012. The Los Angeles Club was 2013. Interstellar was 2014. 2014. God damn.

So like he is. Great run. So he is taking, he's building up to it. But this is also as he, after he's established as an entity and we know him in one way. So I say all this to say that like, it's not that you need to sell your Glenn Powell stock at all. But this, in fact, was a demonstration of what Glenn Powell does. does not do well right now in his career. I would argue this is maybe a large conversation,

but there's an indictment on just, like, stars in general in how, like, you mentioned Tom Cruise. Like, there's a level that Tom Cruise can hit. I mean, you mentioned this on the last podcast, that acting, like, we thought, like, it was easy. It's a lot harder. We thought movie starring. We thought movie starring was easy.

It's hard. It's hard. Yeah. We just saw it with Glenn Powell. And frankly, do they make, Tom Cruise's anymore? No. I don't think they do.

Is it on us? Are we putting too much pressure on the Glenn Pallas of the world to look for the next Messiah? No. To look for the next Tom Cruise? Because he was moving like that. Here's the thing.

The industry was moving like that. He was being an anointed like that. You just can't be like when you get them. I mean, getting a co-sign from Tom Cruise, the Flash got a co-sign from Tom Cruise. So we can like, nah, it's different. But we, again, like,

Top Gun Maverick was the thing, right? And so we all came out. I mean, everybody got the stimmy except for Miles Teller off a Top Gun Maver. Right. And so we're looking at everybody, like, a little different. But I legitimately think, like, you could maybe make the argument for Salome. But everybody else, and we'll see Marty Supreme tonight, so who knows?

But outside of that, I don't know if they're making, like, real movie superstars anymore. I will also say this. We got to shoot some of them some bail. I feel like Salamane's and Dea are at that point as, like, actors, where it's, like, everybody goes to them first. So you kind of just like, well, you get the top pick. you got the best shit of the best shit. Everybody else is like, damn, like, or Timmy Shalameh.

Salomey Pass. Timmy passed. I mean, just also let's look at the actual mechanism of those careers, right? Those careers, particularly for Shalemay, it starts with, I demonstrate that I am a phenomenal actor in character-driven movies. Movies that are not big, huge, gigantic productions. but just movies where I have to demonstrate two people that they will care about a character that I create.

And I do that for years. Then when I choose my gigantic huge blockbuster, it is a big budget evolution of that. It is me being, me portraying a character that has the weight of his family on him, that has the future of the universe thrust upon him. That is continuously and almost ever presently litigating every single aspect of his personality and all of these relationships.

That's learning new things. It's an exploration of things I've already done on screen on a bigger stage. And then you undergird that gigantic huge movie and people go, you're a movie star. When really, what it actually is, is you doing the character work that you've already done, but with a sword and with a

$200 million budget. What I mean to say is it's a smart choice in doing that. It's like the level of, like, not only that, but it's having the talent and also the personal and political, like,

cachet and smarts to make those right decisions. Because you, like, the amount of talent that you have, Timmy could have all the talent in the world, which it seems like he does, but he could also make the wrong decisions with taking on roles or jobs

that don't highlight those things. Or he could be in a flop, or he can be in a bad way. One way to do that is just, I mean, and obviously we're not going to besmirch the career of Edgar Wright. No.

Is you work with a 24-carat-gold autort. When you want to take that big step, when you want to take that gigantic step, that is what you do. Will Smith did it a different way. Will Smith said, hey, you know what, for the next X amount of year, it's going to be me against the aliens. So throw all the aliens that you have at me.

I'm going to fight the aliens for a while. I'm going to fight the aliens in men of black. I'm going to fight the aliens in Wild Wild West. I'm going to fight an amorphous source in enemy of the state. It's going to be will versus. And I'm going to swagger my way through all of those situations. Part of that, I can name you a dozen actors that were on the trajectory. that just made the wrong choices, really talented people.

I'm not saying this was the wrong choice. Edgar Wright wants to do the running manager, Glenn Powell, you pick up the phone. But it is probably very important for him to understand or for anyone to understand what he's not good at at this point in this community. Do you also think that Edgar Wright is struggling as a director because I feel like he's now living in a world

cinematically and creatively that he helped create? Where it's like I remember being in high school and college, And it was just like the special things about Edgar Wright when you would see like a Scott Program or Sean of the Dead or baby driver, other people started like cribbing. This is around the time when it's like the Avengers or movies are out

and everybody's super quippy and it's pop culture references and like really fast cuts. And I'm like, oh, Edgar Wright is still an author and he's still special, but there's a lot of his DNA and everything. So it's like it's almost less special when you see it. I wouldn't even say that because if I'm being completely honest with you,

I'm the MCU's biggest soldier. It looked like a mid-20010's MCU movie. Like, that's just what it looked like. What Running Man looked like? Yeah. And not in a good way. Not in a good way. And that's tough.

Dr. Strange is better than that shit. I don't know what you're talking about. No, but Dr. Strange is, I'm talking like when it's like after when a soldier, just that little like. But there's a reason why he was supposed to direct Ant Man. Even like, there is like, even though like he's not on that movie anymore, when you watch Ant Man, you're like, oh, I can see how this is an Edgar Wright movie. Well, I mean,

You can also argue that one reason why he wasn't on Ant Man is because he had, we assumed that Edgar Wright's version of Ant Man would have been better. Yes. We assume that. I like Peyton Reed's version. Right. We assume that. We don't know that.

Edgar Wright has come out. And basically he was asked, I believe, on like a Reddit, like Q&A, what happened on Ant Man. And the way he described is essentially like, he wrote the movie before. Yeah. So he was doing his autort thing. But by the time, like, it got time for production, the MCU was like already, it was a machine. It was a machine.

They had a way of doing it. And he's Edgar Wright. He's just like, I'm not going to collaborate in this way with you. Right. Like, so, yeah. So we assume, like I said, that that movie is better if it's Edgar, right? And maybe it is. But also maybe it's not.

Mm-hmm. Maybe that film, if it is all through the lens of one guy and if it doesn't reflect the sensibility of the larger Marvel project, and God knows, I don't want to get into a Marvel conversation on here. Because it's so well and not turning everything into a Marvel thing. Yeah, yeah. It's great for clicks. But maybe it's not a better movie. Maybe Reed's movie is better because that's the way you make the way. those types of movies.

And if somebody has, it's always awesome for a director to have such a strong vision of a movie that they're uncompromising with it. But also, sometimes that willingness or that need to be singular in focus, it stymies collaboration.

And when you do that, sometimes you get a worse movie. Sometimes you get, Tyco Watiti is a perfect example. Right. Sometimes you get Ragnarok, sometimes you get Love and Thunder. It's hit or miss based upon what it is that they want to do. But there's also like a million different other decisions in that process that make an ultimately, ultimately a project something that we do or do not like.

Like it's not just that one thing. I'm very curious because when it comes to like, okay, like you have the script, you have these things that like are ultimately collaborating on, how a scene is shot, what scene is going to get cut, what scene is going to get like all of those things that like a million different people. no scenes from this movie. Maybe. We don't know. It's 2.10.

It could easily be 140. Right. But what you're saying what, though? I'm saying that of all the things that I love about Edgar Wright movies and when we think that an Ant Man movie could or couldn't have been better than what we got from the MCU, yes, he couldn't have been a good fit. But the things that make a good Edgar Wright movie aren't in the running man. And from what we can probably understand is that, okay, well, they aren't in the running.

They aren't in the running. The things that make a good Edgar Wright movie are not in this movie. I actually disagree. I think the things that make a good... They're barely in this movie. I think the thing that makes... That Edgar Wright does well is all throughout this movie. It's almost too much.

And like, I actually think some of the sensibilities that were refreshing 10, 15 years ago are actually a little bit like, ugh. Like, there's the things that I bristled against, I think the Kardashian fucking shit was whack. That was in the movie all. all the time. We didn't need that. We didn't need that. I think the two black characters in it, there's more of the two black characters, but when Glenn Powell goes to the fucking hood and he's saved by the little kid and there's the fucking, there's the conspiracy theory guy. I was like, this is whack. Nobody told y'all this was whack. Like, come on. I thought that shit was actually, I was a little

bit like, fuck this. It was kind of, it was like, it was teeter got a little bit like, all right, man. The Maritano's thing with the Kardashians was, first of all, two years. To you. you guys' point, harping on the Kardashians' influence on culture is very 2017. Yeah. Yeah. We know, right? I mean, we get it. They've been here.

I think the script was probably written at a time where that seemed fresh. It was, well, Sean remarked on the big picture that this movie came together very quickly. Oh. So, so maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. And who knows how long ideas flowing around

in the writer's head. But all of that stuff is made to kind of make us see that, I guess, what we're watching as far as the reality show of the Kardashians is actually not that much further. We're not that the running man is not that much further from that. That was our entry point into that. The problem is like, we know that. Yeah. So, like, so now we know that. Like we know that our obsession with this sort of pseudo reality television has groomed us into strain a little bit further away from using our minds to create art.

And to you guys' point, a little bit more to create contact. We're aware. We know. We know we one fucking generation away from Michael Jackson beat it. Tie your arms together, stabbing contest sponsored by Pepsi. We know, bro. I mean, honestly, you can go watch Mr. Beast. Do all that right now.

It's a way more craven than anything that's in this. Right. So we know. So the point is, are we having fun? Yeah. Like, all we having fun is this high octane. And if it's not going to be fun, then it has to be, to your point. Like, The Hunger Games made oodles and oodles and oodles of money being something that honestly is not that much fun to watch.

But it's harrowing. in a way that this movie wasn't. Or if you take the squid game analogy, I think the reason that that worked is like, because that is such a world, where it is just like the way it's designed, the colors, everything. You're like, it's so far removed from our world.

You're like, oh, I haven't seen this before. With this movie, I'm just like, co-op city. I'm like, this just kind of looks like slightly futuristic Toronto. You got some weird mailboxes that fly. Yeah, it was very uninventive. I'm just like, wait. Physical media reigns supreme now, though.

We still got tape decks. Now, having said all of that, it's not like you're going to go to the movies and, like, kick yourself in the Achilles, which, by the way, I had an MRI this morning. Oh, how's that go? On my Achilles. We don't know, we don't know yet. Oh, man, you're trying to, you don't want to end up like Tyreeks. Yeah, we don't know yet. So they MRI at the Achilles.

Not a great experience having an MRI on your Achilles. No, it is not. They got to inject you with the magnetic fluid. No, they don't. No, that's a CT. Is that a CT? Wait, that's an old X-ray. the MRI where you got to drink the fucking shit.

I puke every single time. That's just terrible. You put the metal in your shit and then you go into the... Yeah, it was not great. It's like just sitting there a whole time. My back was heard and I was trying to listen to videos. I told the lady, shoot, the lady was like... The lady was like, what do you want to listen to?

I want to listen to music? I was like, no. Put on a podcast. It's like who? I was like, put on a podcast by a guy named Ryan Chapman on YouTube. He's got a podcast about nationalism. And I was like, okay, so I listen to the podcast. podcast about nationalism is over.

And she goes, the next one is about Marxism. Shout out to that nurse. That's great. Do you want to listen and learn about Marxism? I was like, yeah. And she was like, okay. You think she's like, she's not paying enough for this. Yeah, it's not a...

Talk about that health care system. I love Ryan Chapman's videos. Anyway, so, you know, this one just, It just kind of didn't work. So here's the thing. And, like, we, I know we've talked about, like, the movie not being fun. You think that people go to the theater. I think so.

I think people, I think there are people that will have fun with it. Yeah. It's the reception around this seems to be, like, mixed into slightly mixed positive. I will say, and I'm sure, I mean, we'll talk about it. The best scene in the movie by far is Michael Sarah showing up. It's not even close. That's, like, the pinnacle of the movie. And I just, I, once that scene happened, I was like, all right, the movie's got to

little juice. Also, can we please reassess the fact that we need to put Michael Sarah in more things? All right. No, for real. He had a good show. He had a good 15 minutes. I love Michael Sarah. I grew up with Michael Sarah. He's one star close to my heart. We got to stop with the take. We're like, we need more. I'm like, I think we're getting the perfect amount of Michael Sarah right now.

I mean, how much Michael Serber getting really outside of Uber Eats commercials? Whoa, he was in, he was in that Hulu show with What's Her Face? He was in the latest West Anderson movie with Benicio. He was often a net. Phoenician scheme. I just think we need the Michael Serra that we grew up with. Yeah. He was fun.

You want Super Bad. You want Scott Pilgrim. He was, and he showed, Michael Sarah has a way. Yeah. But he also showed a little range. He showed Wains of being a short asshole kind of in super bad to where he just kind of like cut you off real quick. Yeah. What's the playlist?

Zora's Infinite Playlist. There's always Infinite Playlist. I love that movie. Great movie. Nica Nora's Infinite Playlist. Another movie that I read. When I read that script, I thought that Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist would be the defining love story. I swear.

Hell yeah. What was it? When I read that script, I thought Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist would be a sleepless in Seattle. Harry Met Sally. I was enthralled with that script. I read that script around that time. Wait, did you read the Gino's script? The what?

The Juno script? No, I didn't read the Juno script, but like, Juno itself is just such a brilliant movie. Yeah. Like, Diablo, a dog. Like, whatever she was. Yo, Michael Sarah was good in that. Yeah, Diablo is a genius.

But, like, it, but it, it, it, I remember reading Nick Anor's Infinite Playlist, I'm like, yo, I feel like I am in, I wanted it for them so badly. Yeah. Like, I thought it was just a great way.

The movie itself was good. Wait, were you disappointed when you were just like, damn, Dan will live up to? the script. No, no, no, no, the movie was good. The movie itself was good. Almost every, the script was phenomenal. It was a phenomenal script to me. Another one I read during that time, Nicanor's Infinite Playlists. I can't believe we, two movies to talk about that. Shout to Cat Dennings. But, Cat Dennings is on my Mount Rushmore. Like, oh, Cat, Danings. You've told, you've told the story. You've told the Cat Dennings

story. You told the Cat Dennings story. In real life, I believe every word. was that, I was doing, shout out to Zoli Griggs and Ashton Sanders and everyone, right? The fucking Wu-Tang show, the first season it premiered. Rizzle was there. Everyone was there. We're all doing it. We backstage at the thing. It's a whole Hulu deal.

And I'm for my people, man. Fuck that. Ted toes down, the whole way. I'm for my people. I was backstage and there was a show that was called doll face Dollface or dollhouse. No, it's Dolphase. I watched both seasons.

Yep. And we, I'm backstage about to interview, going out there to the Paley situation to interview them. And Kat Dennis walked through that motherfucker and I was like, God damn, man. If you don't get massive temptation out of my motherfucker. Oh, whoa, right. Whoa. Why'd you have to go there? Fuck that.

That's the time. You got to take it on the way of this. Get the fuck out of my motherfucking face. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not fucking with this. You know what I'm saying? Get, fuck that shit. And then shout out Nick and Orson.

Shout out Andrew W.K. Shout out Andrew W.K. Also, you want to know what we're doing? Shout out of Matt Babel. We might be doing a white girl movie draft. You know what? Actually, around that time, another movie. I was like, damn, this is genius.

500 days of something. Oh, yeah. Hell you said, He thought that'd be the defining movie of that time. I was like, that's crazy. No, over it, over it, no. 500 days of summer.

500 days of summer was the one. That's the one. Yeah, yeah. The politics of the movie probably haven't aged well. No, but like that was the movie of the moment. Yeah, that was like, dang, that's crazy. Especially for niggas like you, Steve.

That's, yeah, that's your, that's your shit. That joint person of the wallflower. You watch 500 days of summer. Five hundred days of summer is Steve. That's Steve. Steve is a Joseph Gordon. 11th. That's a guy.

That's a Joseph Gordon-Levick guy. Back to Michael Sarah. But also, you know, Jesse Eisenberg came along and kind of marched to threaten Michael Sarah a little bit. Do you think so? Yeah, yeah. I feel like they're in different ways. Oh, actually, no, social network is. Social network.

That was the absolute. Wait, last question, last question on Michael Sarah for me. Is the social network a worse or better movie with Michael Sarah? It's way worse. It's a, it's a funny-ass movie. It's way worse. I think exactly the same. Exactly the same.

Really? You think he could do what Jesse Eisenberg did? I think Michael Sarah actually could do a Zuckerberg. No, man. There's just, I don't know what it. Maybe a social network, maybe, because, again, I just watched now you see me. The dickishness that Jesse Eisenberg can embody, I don't see Michael Serra. Michael Sarah has that too, though.

He could, but Eisenberg's got like a great horror in that movie when I see him in movies. Right. Like, it's just, there's just something about it. Michael Sarah, maybe. You don't see it in Scott Pilgrim? Scott Pilgrim's an asshole. He's a dick in that movie. Dick and Superbad, for whatever reason, it's a little, a little more charm.

It's a little more like... There's a safety that he has. He's more like, yeah, he a dick, but that's the home. You know what can you do? Say, Eisenberg, I don't want to be nowhere near him. If he talks to me like that, it's hands. If, uh, Michael Sehauer's talking about that I'm like, that's my dude... Man, Jesse Eisenberg will whoop will whop your ass.

Really? Jesse Eisenberg. I talk of you so bad. But no, but not if I'm on my back, if I'm on my front foot and I'm loading up. I'm telling you right now. I give him the jab. You're not trying to see the Berg, brug. Jesse Eisenberg.

The Berg. I'm telling me to see the Berg. I'm tall as Jesse Asperg. So back to Rudy, man. Like, that Michael Serra scene does, like, the most in terms of, like, actually activating the story, like, what the themes of the movie are. And it's just, like, fun and exciting. Yeah.

And then he gets on the road. I love a million of Jones. Shout out a task. The girl with the mullet. The homie. The movie just stops. Yeah. Like, like, in its tracks.

To bring it back to basketball since we're all doing basketball, it's kind of like, I felt like the movie started off really, really slow. But once you start getting up to that Michael Serra scene especially, it's like your team's down, your team just comes out, you're down 30 immediately. Then you kind of go on like a 15-2 run. Are you back in, you find yourself back in the game? Like, you're down seven now.

Yeah, it's like, oh, this is reachable. We've been, okay, we might get some. It's the hit man part of the movie where he's dressing up as the preacher. Yeah. He's in the hotel. Like, he's getting to be like a goofy guy. guy who's running away from all the hunter. You might not win the game, but you made it respectable.

You're like, okay, you might come out and then you're having a good time. Once he gets in that car, 40-year-old run for the other team. It's over. You lost. There's just nothing. I think it happens before that when he meets the little kid. After the hotel scene where he has to with the black family, I was like, get the shit out. I feel like that from there to the, to the Michael Serf scene, like the whole, like the

little dude doing like the black guy doing the thing. That was a little weird. But I still felt the movie had a little bit of momentum. Like him being the straight man to everybody else's wackiness, that worked. That worked a little bit more than I thought the beginning. Because again, him trying to be, him playing fake angry, plain. So Sean said something on the big picture that in the Richard Bachman novel, Richard crashes that plane into the network and it everybody dies or whatever.

That gives that plane utility. that gives that plane utility. The plane is now not just a set piece where something is happening. The plane is the method of death for the network and the conduit to freedom for Richards who dies, right?

He's free of this chain of existence and in his kamikaze action, he takes out the entire network. Now, obviously, we are not going to do that, right? Okay, that's something that's not going to happen. Obviously, we're not going to do that. However, if you're not going to do that, you shouldn't get on the plane. Well, you've got to know how many bathrooms are on the plane.

I'm just saying if you're not going to do that, the plane is nothing. And all the plane did was confuse me because they want to kill him. They could have killed him, but they're not killing him. There's a pause in what is supposed to be the central premise of the movie, which is everybody's out to kill this guy at all times, the fact that this is good for the television show gets lost in what's supposed to be going on and in a task lady from Coda as well.

I'm like, where are we at? And the movie just peters out. And that's the worst thing that can happen to a film that's supposed to rely on tension. It's a chase film. Yeah. It just peters out. I'm like, okay, so they're not killing him.

We got to bring him. breaking the action. There needs to be something dramatic. I'm not sure what she represents in this film. It doesn't. And then we get to the end. It's like, the movie's over. Richards wins.

I'm like, I just don't fucking feel it. Like, I don't, like, I don't feel it. I don't even feel the, I don't even feel the, him turning into this revolutionary hero. That was a little bit, like, like the movie kept telling me that that's what's happening. I don't really buy it for fun. No.

It felt, it wasn't. When it ended, I was kind of reminiscent about that. You remember the, Black Mirror episode with Daniel Kaluya where he's like on the bicycle and they're about like social media influencers and then he threatens to kill himself and then he becomes a social media influencer

that's about revolution. We're talking about when they were on the singing competition or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I kind of got that vibe with what they were thinking that they could do because like the thing that would like want to destroy the network. Oh, well if this cat, the network thinks, oh, well, if this captivates the people, we'll just buy it

and use it. That's a great type of thing to know that like, oh, well, when the corporation tries to like welcome in the thing that is welcoming their demise, it would eventually kill them. Then it, like it said, it just peters out to the degree where, like, now it's just this chant of just, he lives and then we shoot the guy. He shoots the guy in and then cut. It goes, Richard wins.

Mike, what the fuck is going on? I don't, yeah. It's mad frustrating, especially, like, I guess Josh Brolin is the main antagonist, but the secondary antagonist is Leapace, and we see his face for, like, what, 10 minutes, if that. And he's, it's Lee freaking pace, man. He's great. He's great.

I love Lee Pace in the movie. He's amazing. I thought he has a great character. I know. But all of this stuff could work, bro. I'm just being for real. The hunters, all of this stuff. All of this stuff could work.

All of this stuff could work. And once again, it is not like, we disagree. You will, you might have some fun inside of the running. You will have fun if you watch the clips on YouTube in like six months when it's on. Wait, so we do have to get to nerd news. So do you, like, I feel like we've talked through the movie. Are we ready for the midnight meter?

Certainly. All right. Guys, y'all know what the midnight meter is. One to 12, one being the worst. 11 and 12, though, reserved for absolute game changers. I'm going to switch it up. We'll start with you, Steve. Then go to Joe Me.

What are you giving this, Steve? We'll give this a four. It bummed me the hell out. It really, really did. Everything that I could have liked about this movie on paper was disappointing me. And the movie's an ultimate disappointment. It's a Faf. I think, I mean, we've talked about it.

I think there's a lot of sporting characters do a lot of heavy lifting in this movie. That's supposed to be a one-man star vehicle. And so, like, that's ultimately, like, one of the main problems. I think just bland directing from a guy who we've become accustomed to showing us, like, really great flashes. So for me, I just right in the middle. It's a FIF. It's a weak FIF. I'm going five as well.

And I hate that I'm saying this. But, you know, there's been a lot of dirt thrown on, like, the superhero genre, the marvels, the D.C., the Star Wars, the world. And I think Running Man is a perfect example of, like, this is IP. And I'm like, yo, these movies are hard to make. These big spectacle movies getting it out. And I just think that, like, I'm very happy that we're getting these styles of movies again. But I do think we do have to lock in on how you land these planes. And if you don't have a superhero that I already love in the center, you do need a,

type of charismatic actor and I think Hollywood needs to kind of start being like, all right, what can we do to kind of get these people like a Glenn Powell to that level? Because Glenn Powell is not Schwarzenegger. I think like, you can say whatever you want about Schwarzenegger as an actor, but I think he's

just like, when you watch the original running man, you're like, oh, I'm staring at him. Even his physical size just made him look so formidable. His comedic presence. Yeah, right? Another thing was, you know, in this movie, going to be the angriest man in the world

is also supposed to be some kind of badass and it just never comes quite through. I desperately want to give a six but I have to give it a five. Once again, there are things in the film for you guys to enjoy. Coleman Domingo, Josh Brollen, whatever Josh Rowland is in, I enjoy him in.

Josh Brollen is perfectly cast. Josh Browling is working those veneers. Josh Brollen is perfectly cast. Perfectly cast. At the end of the day, the movie is just too tonally all over the place for it. to be something that I can rate any higher. All right.

With that, we're pivoting to nerd news. Nerd News. A bunch of DC stuff dropped this week. Reportedly, the rap on Thursday confirmed that Brainiac is the villain of the sequel to James Gunn Superman Man of Tomorrow. I haven't seen James Gun poop-poo this report. But, yeah, the rap is saying that is Brainiac like we all thought it was. And then the Hollywood reporter revealed that, Jimmy Olson is getting a show titled DC Crime by the team that did American Vandal.

Dan Peralt and Tony Ysenda will write executive produce and show run this true crime series centered around Olson. And the first villain of this true crime mockumentary series will be Gorilla Grod. So I'm going to start with you, Van, between the Brainiac news, the Jimmy Olson news. How are you kind of feeling about maybe James Gunn's plans, especially it seems like he is doing what he said he would do? which is making Superman the heart of the DC universe. I think this is two good choices. I think the choice to go with Brainiac is, I mean, obviously very, I think we expected it.

I think the choice to go with Brainiac, put soup and Lex together to go with Brainiac is. I love the idea. I love the idea. I love it. Wait, did you hear the rumor, though? I don't believe it that people are saying that Baby Joey, I think that was his name, the Green Little Baby.

Is Brainiac? I'm like, all right, I don't know. That's funny. They said his future. out he's going to come from the future. I don't know if that's true. If we got to cut back to that CGI reverse. That's funny.

That's funny. I think the Jimmy Olson show is a genius idea. Yeah, I hate the Jimmy Olson idea. I love it. I love it. So in a vacuum, I love it. I love, America Vandal should have got a thousand seasons. So good.

It's such a great show. And so bringing that to the DC universe with Jimmy Olsen at the center, with those two guys at the helm, I'm there, 100%. In the bigger scope of things, I've set this once, I'll say it again, got bigger fish to fry big dog. You know what I'm saying? We out here doing the Jimmy Olson show, man. What a woman that got a script? They got a bills, man. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Let me tell you with my, my, I, I, I know I sound like a hater, but it's, I'm sorry. The reason why I hate it is because it is. Number one, let me tell you the way

to me that you would do the, the, the, the television stuff. that Marvel got wrong. What Marvel did on the TV stuff was try to create eight-hour narratives, nine-hour narratives, on characters that we didn't have nine hours of care about. And I'm not saying that, like, we would have never had nine hours of care,

but we certainly didn't in the outset have nine hours of care, or five hours or four hours. I think there's a genius in the conceit of this show. I'm not saying it's going to work. I think it will work. But the genius and the conceit of the show is this. Jimmy worked.

We like Jimmy. Cool. We make a show that is something that people already watch, which is the true crime stuff. But we do it based on characters that you need to establish or you want to establish to have a wider DC universe in a true crime, like an anthology. To me, if you do that. and you land that, it's both taking advantage of the watching habits of people already,

taking advantage of a character that people enjoy already, and then also, like, if you're smart about it, introducing people to characters that they might not know. And it is, to me, a way of looking at the television landscape and going, let me not force somebody to watch something. Let me give somebody something in a digestible way with something that's worked, and see if we're smart enough to make it amazing.

I personally think it was one, when they just said that they were going to do, they were going to do a Jimmy Olson show, I might, that's not going to work. And the reason is, is because what the fuck Jimmy Olson going to do? Jimmy Olson going to run around, taking pictures? No.

But, like, you know what I'm saying? But if the show is a DC crime show that gets into some of these other characters, I think that can work. I think that's a smart way to do it. There's going to be the Big Sean of DC TV shows. Where is like... For no reason.

What? It's crazy. There's no need for that. For no reason. Big shot. Big shot at the Korean. No, no. Say whatever you want.

But just know that somewhere... This is in the States race. Oh, boy. Boy. Here's the thing. As someone who was like a Big Sean fan, there was a love... Pet nigga, a cold rapper. Fuck y'all.

But there was a... No, no, no. You know, I don't like it when people do this. Big Sean is a cold rapper. I was a cold rapper. Sean, but there was a time where it's like, Big Sean would be over like, you know, mercy.

Like, damn, I think I like Big Sean. And then you would listen to the album. It's a little bit too much Big Sean. And it's the same thing with Jimmy. I like with Jimmy Yolson next to Superman and Lois. I'm like, I love this man. And then when you're like, oh, here's eight hours of Jimmy, I'm like. But it's not eight hours of Jimmy.

See, that's the thing. It's not eight hours of Jimmy. It's eight hours of. Of Jimmy and Gorilla Garad? No, it's eight out. No, guerrilla Grot is just one, I think. No, I think the first season, it's like a true crime doc. So I think the, I might be wrong.

Yeah, I mean, that could be funny. Again, but other people could come in and out. It's not like, yeah. Oh, I thought it was like a. The grill is really bad. This is going to be at the guerrilla garage season. I'm going to be real with you. If it's all on guerrilla grot, that could be tough.

I might be wrong. There's a lot of game left. Again, I thought if it's all on guerrilla grot, well, I'm not saying that that won't work, but I'm saying that that is now you, now you got to make a, now it's a show. You got to make a show. My opinion is I like what you said where it's like, if it's the anti-Marvel, because I've always hated hearing, we think of the show as an eight-hour movie.

That's been terrible. That's never worked for me. And if they want to structure it, because knowing that the people that made American Vandal are behind this, again, this is the kind of the test that we've seen with Marvel. We're like, okay, we'll shave off the dull edges of all of these great creatives that we get in that have made these great shows that would fit these characters, but ultimately it just makes these things

that are jumbled up in the Marvel machine. I think the people that make American Vandal could easily come up with something in that vein that fits Jimmy Olson and Gorilla Grot at the center of it. That's so funny. That's great. I think they could. I think they could. I will say I'm still very excited for the show.

For some reason, I thought it was one was going to be on Gorilla Grodd, another one was going to be on. I might be wrong. You probably right. I'm pretty sure the whole season is going to be leading up to your point. And they did an episode with like, oh, the first episode on Gorilla Grave, the next one is going to be on Lex. And they were kind of doing like a true crime documentary of like Al Lex.

Case of the Week. Yeah, that's a little fun. Yeah, that's a little fun. Like, I would have liked him more Case of the Week day. Again, guys. I think that's funny. Guys, let's be, let's be serious. They got Playface coming next year.

They got Supergirl coming next year. And they got Manor tomorrow. That's it. That's all on the docket. JV. We, this is, like, too much J.V. Iron Man was J. No, we got Lantern. We got Lantern.

On TV. I'm talking about just movies. JV shit. Let's be for real. You know what I did? Let's be honest, man. You guys always say this. But here's a deal.

What's going to speak is the quality of the stuff. Now, if you go watch something that's good and you don't like it because it's about Clayface, that's fine. But let's be honest with you. Let's talk about the starters. Wonder Woman, Starter. Wonder Woman, 84. Justice League, whole team of starters.

Aquaman 2. Starter. So we should wait. Ten years? So, no, I'm not saying we should wait ten years. What I'm saying is that it is not the characters themselves that denote the quality, lasting, or staying power of these things. It is what is on the screen. But can I say this?

I think we've proven, I don't think this is for all movies, but I will say for IP storytelling, I think it is way harder to make eight or ten hours of captivating TV that it is to make a good, not just a great. a good superhero movie. I completely agree. But I also think, I totally agree. But we have proof of concept both ways. We have compelling Daredevil stuff,

all about Daredevil, who is a character that I would say is like a, if we, if we talk in rappers, then Daredevil is like, who would, like he is. Jadikis? Maybe.

Yeah. Yeah, he's Jadaqis. Like Jadaq, here's the thing, Jadikis, legendary rapper, one of the greatest rappers of all time, never became like a pop star, but had joints. And also, and also, you know that Jada is as good as anyone,

but Jada don't have a pop sensibility, superpower of them. That's the Dere Devil is Jada kiss. If we were doing like an M.C.U. And they're the Nigger in hell's kitchen. Like, yeah. Who would be in this versus of the MCU? Who would be Dipset and who would be the locks? Okay, so the locks in the MCU.

Okay, who the dipset would be So if Jada Because going into that Versus, everybody thought Dipset was going to wash the locks Right So would the locks be like, nah Would the locks be the defense?

That's what I'm saying. The Lox would be the defenders. The Lox would be the defenders And who's dipset? The dip set would be I would say probably somebody that people fuck with a little bit more

Is it like X-R? Honestly, it might be- Force, an X-Force type of situation. They had to, like, we just thought the dipset cultural powers was going to overwhelm the rock, the, the, the locks, but all of the sudden. Who would Avengers versus X-Men be in terms of, like, rap groups? Avenger.

That's the, that the, the Avengers versus X-Men would be like. X-Men are Wu-Tang Clan. Do you think, okay, if the X-Men are Wu-Tang Clan? Wait, they're not? They could be. Then who's the Avengers? Then Avengers would be like the Rock. Yeah.

Be like Rockefeller. Yeah. Yeah. Be like, big money. No, it would actually be Rockefeller versus cash money. Rockefeller. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Like, okay, but who's cash money? Who's cash money? Is Cash money X-Men? Now, hold on now. Cash money is definitely the X-Men. Because if you put, I say, Cash money is definitely that. Cash money is the X-Man.

We're talking about the whole cash money. Whole Cash Money. Who's the Wolverine of Cash Money? Probably Drake. He's Canadian. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Drake is probably the Wolverine.

He's Canadian. You know, he got... Is Little Wayne Professor X? No, no, no, no, Burman. Yeah, Burrman is Xavier. Like, Lil Wayne is probably... Little Wayne will probably be Cyclops. Lil Wayne, not Cyclops.

He's the Cyclops of this. Basically, Professor X's son. Like, he's the cyclops of this. Damn! He is. Yo, Wayne is Cyclops. Wayne is the Cyclops of this. He does cyclops?

Oh, shit, that's a good question. Jew, okay, so... All right, so, Wayne. No, that's disrespectful. Juby won't a great. That's, nah. There's some young shit. Jubi and Juby's one of my favorite.

I love juvenile. Don't do that. Come on, now. I just did Juvie and the Jubilee. Bro. This is the illiteration. It's a little disrespectful, my boy. It's fucking.

Juvenile. My fault, OG. Yeah. My fault. I try to make a joke. It didn't land. That's all me. Juve is actually Magneto.

Jovey could be Magneto, but if the Magneto. Because Jovey leaving. cash money realizing like he's like, he's like, damn, the X-Men on some bullshit. Yeah, but he had to have never been aligned with them. Yeah, no, Magneto, when Xavier were aligned for years. Yeah, I gotta think.

They were, they were friends for a long time, but I wouldn't put Jew, the only problem is I wouldn't put Juvie as the villain in the whole mutant saga. If we weren't going to do Magneto, I like that idea, though. If we weren't going to do Magneto,

if it's not Cyclops and it's not Wolverine, it would have to be Because Juvie was the, he put a wrong, like. See, Juvie is, that's the problem. Juvie is the man, really. Storm? Omega level threat? Oh, wow.

Juvie, got to be. Is Nikki Storm? Wait, is Juvie Deadpool? No, no, Jovee would have to be Storm, man. Storm. Jovee would have to be storm. All the powers, really the coolest. Came out and was like, Juvie would have to be storm.

Now, we should make Storm a woman. We should make Storm, like, you know what I mean? I don't know. We got to think about this. Let's do a whole show on this. I was strictly thinking just from a power set standpoint. Let's do a whole show on this. Because we haven't even got to the Avengers and the Rock,

because I'm trying to feel like, like, who's the Iron Man of the Rock? Man is crazy. Wait, actually, it would be, Kanye would be Iron Man. Hove would be Captain America. Okay. Yeah. Who's Thor?

Who's the Thor of the Rock? Beanie. Beanie. Beanie single. Why y'all laughing? Why y'all disrespecting is real? It's just funny to think about. It's funny to think about.

Y'all young asses make me sick. We're not. What is what are you think about? Y'all don't, there will be no fucking disrespect for being single, dog, in any way or shape or form. It's just funny to think about him being Thor. He would have her. I'm sorry.

Can you feel it? The Aesat Mollies is the attorney. I'm not being turtles. I'm not being. I'm not hated. I'm sick of y'all young-ass niggins, bro. It's just funny to think about. By the way, Avatar coming out is long.

That's it. We not going to let Steve get us in general. That's fine. Avatar coming out is the movie going to be long. That's it. I'm out of this. I'm over this shit. Y'all niggins getting on Beanie Siegel.

How dare you. I'm not hitting on Beanie Siegel. No way. It's just funny to think about that. Hold on. No way. We're going to do a. Thor.

would be Cam. Thor would be Cam. Thor would be Cam. Thor would be Cam. Beanie is Hulk. Beanie is Hulk. Thor would be Cam. Beanie is Hulk.

Because you know Beanie, Beanie has to be Hulk. Beanie was fucking wild. Yeah, Beanie was why I can't believe. Memphis Bleak is probably like, um, let me think. Pepper Pottsy. Don't you?

Let me tell you out something. All right, that's my God. Respect these guys and what they did, bro. I love that. I'm not my bad, my. My, my. I respect. guys in what they did.

As long as I'm alive, he's a million there. He's not bad for me. I'm saying, no, don't. I'm not better. I'm saying, respect these guys, respect these guys and what they did, bro. I was just, it was a bad joke. My fault, Juby. That's on me.

Respect these guys. Beanie Segal, Memphis Bleak, Freeway. All of these guys are legends. Y'all young asses don't respect these. Can't believe this. Me? I respect all of them. You don't.

Why? You said Jubilee was... Because he did. And then you said, Hepha Potts, disrespect. I'm going to drop you all. We got to talk about that? Jay Z, no. Okay, just make a sure.

We never talk about that. Got it, got it, got it. Okay, and by the way, that was recorded after. That was recorded after. The first one got stopped and then they released that bitch after. That's still some shit. But we don't talk about that though. Respect our hip-hop greats.

Y'all niggas is crazy. Hey, Juvia, again, my fault, OG. I would say, I would say that, I would say that Bleak is like Hawkeye. Okay. I would say, that's, an assassin, cold, important, I would say Bleak is like a Hawkeye. DJ Cool, Black Widow? Something like that, but maybe somebody, because there's a lot of Avengers. A lot of, oh, you know what, Bleak could be Spider-Man.

Bleak is not, Spire. All right, I'm just trying to make sure she'll stay peaceful. You know what the problem is they're going to be his D.S. Yeah. Let's let's give a fucking. It's going to be real with you. I think legitimately the Beanie Siegel and Juvie respect that went, disrespect that went on here is, I can't even fucking. I did not respect Beanie.

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Jovey back that take him. Additional production from Arjuna-Ram Gapal. Chuck takes out. Running Man was pretty bad. Brainiac casting is pretty peak. All due respect to the legends, Juvie and Memphis Bleak. Wait, also, did y'all see it a tweet

where they were being like, They were listing like, yo, who's the next successor to, like, Tom Cruise? And then they did the Denzel Washington. And I saw a bunch of our people claiming that white actors are taking the mantle from Denzo Washington. And I was like, who? I saw that. I mean, I saw the big one that I was like, it was supposed to be Chadwick.

But then, you know, he passed away. So we kind of have like that voyage. You know what I mean? It was never going to be Chadwick. That's crazy. It could have been. We don't. I mean, he was.

The rest of piece of Chadwick, Chadwick was never the successor to Denzel. Why not? What would he have been? Is there a cop to him? Yeah, he's not that type of acting. Denzel is the overpower. That's not Chadwick. Chadwick was more...

Chadwick is more in a Don Chito. Yeah. Yeah, like, but Denzel was... He's a chameleon more. He was a comedian. Well, no, no, no, he was a... He was a quote, unquote... He was a star, a true deal, but he also was kind of like

quiet and understated. Denzel is... Yeah, I come, motherfucker. Right. Denzel's charm can sell a movie. Like, I've watched bad movies that I'm watching because Denzel is just like... Can I ask you this, though? Like, not to say that Denzel can't disappear into a role,

but there's never been a point when I've been watching a Denzel movie and been like, that's not Denzel. That's this character. I think that's the credit to Denzel, though. And I think that's what I agree. I think that happens later in his career. I think earlier on in his career, I'm like, before he's like fully... I think after Training Day.

think that's the movie. I couldn't agree more. I think after training day, and it's Denzel. Training day is Denzel's Scarface. Yeah. Because Scarface and kind of sin of a woman. Because, like, more to the point after sin of a woman, Pacino is, now Pacino is a caricature. Woo-ha! Like, the whole not, he's going crazy. And Scarface is when he really starts turning up. But before that, really understated roles.

Like Philadelphia is like... Philadelphia. Philadelphia. Mobeda Blue Like have you ever seen Have you guys ever seen Cry Freedom? No We should do a Denzel

A movie drive Like we should Cry Freedom He played Steve Biko Glory Like so there's There's roles like that in it Like

Because I'll be This is a hot take I think Training Day is actually Like would be a shitty movie If Denzel was not in it Of course If you put any other character In the Denzel role

I don't think it's a good thing Yeah I agree I will say this about Training Day the conceit of training day is fucking brilliant. Yeah, yeah, the premise is amazing. It is written

like it's written for dumb people. Sure. The premise of the movie could have been like whatever, but it's written like the fat action movie version of something like that. Think about the premise of getting a young, his whole day,

you are grooming him, to take the fall for this thing that your people are doing, that's some, like, real fucking crazy, Martin Scorsesey. Yeah. Like, the whole, that whole thing is crazy, but the way that the movie comes off is in, like, the most accessible, dumbest.

I'm gonna put, get my shit pushed in way. Because it essentially is really a move, people in rooms, talk. But it's that perfect marriage of script, performer, direction, all the things that make it accessible and good. A lot of the Denzel shit to me is not in the script. I'm like, I can tell that motherfucker's like, I'm going to have to like cook on this. Because when you think about training day, you do not think about the plot.

No. No. You think about the point. The dinzo. The dinzzo. The car. You think of every scene that Denzel. Yeah.

Like, you think that you don't think about the plot. And the plot is actually in training day. It's insane. It's actually a pretty fucking insane story. But you don't think about the plot. You got to give Ethan Hawkinson. credit too. He sells the, like, I don't know what. Oh my God. All of his

stories about like how he tries to like carry water with Denzel is actually like the best. He was fantastic in the movie. I'll give you guys another movie. You guys ever see a movie called Street Kings? Have I seen Street King? So Street Kings is with Keonoreeves in the league and it is

trying its hand at being a grizzled LA crime cop drama. I read that script and back when I was Shout out to my man, Brett Buletech. Brett's girl, Lauren, was working at CAA. Right.

And so we would read all of these scripts. She would just get stacks of scripts, and me and Brett would read all of these scripts. I don't want to, Lauren is still out there doing a thing. I don't want to put her on Front Street. But we was reading all of these scripts, all of this stuff that was coming through. A lot of stuff that was coming through for,

for Two-Face. What was his name? How we did it? Aaron Eckhart. Aaron Eckhart. Like, thank you for smoking. All of those, like, all of that night. During the time of his shit was popping.

And I remember I read the Street King script. It was not called Street Kings at the time that the movie came out. It was called something else. I was like, this is fucking amazing. The script. This is fucking amazing. The Night Watchman. It was the name of the script?

Yeah. So I'm like, this is fucking amazing. And I read it. And then when the movie was coming out, I was like, they put Keanu Reeves in the lead of the movie. This is not a fucking diss. John Wick, all of his, Keanu Reeves is the man. He is not right for that part. No.

That was supposed to be some old, grizzled. He's playing like a dirty cop that gets caught up in this whole deal. You need a heavy lifter for that. You need it. That was supposed to be like, that's like a Bruce Willis role. I was thinking of Bruce Willis role. I was thinking of Bruce Willis. And then the movie came out and it looked crazy.

It didn't do shit. It had Forrest Whitaker. It had House MD. Common was in it. The entertainer was in the House MDs. Harry Cruz? Chris Evans? Like, it's the movie.

I might watch this movie now. I'm telling you. The movie is not bad. It's not bad at all. Even though it's sitting on a 37%. I don't mind the movie. Common is in this movie? He was big in 08.

Speaking of Common, man. But last. But if you had the Denzel Training Day energy in the lead of that, I'm telling you people look at it. But that movie was a trendsetter. It was like, okay, now we need every dirty cop movie you got. They had David Eyre directed because he was the screenwriter on Training Day. On Street Kings. Yeah.

Yeah. It was his script. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Common, I rewatched Now You See Me because I'm going to go see the third one. Hell yeah. On Saturday. When Common showed up, I almost like, I was like, they had him as the FBI. the director to the FBI.

Common ruins almost every movie. Don't do that. No, no, no. You think he ruined John Wick, too? He was good at Johnwick, come on, man. No, I can't with comedy. I mean, that's the worst one. But if we were doing, like, if we were doing, like, a rapper turned actor draft,

I would never let comment on my word. I think you, hmm. I mean, how deep is that, though? You got, you got Will. You got, Tupacupac, you have. You got Tau Descambino. Ice Cube. Ice Cube.

Ludicris. Yeah. This four break. out. Let's just go ahead and do it. Top ten of all time. Will Smith is number one. Will Smith is number one. There's a number two that you guys. Okay. By way, Gambino doesn't

count here. Why not? No, because he was an actor. He used the acting to getting a rap. Okay, so Gambino doesn't count here. You got to get a word J. L.L. Cool J's literally number two. L.L. Cool J's number two. Yeah, L.O.Cul J is. And no one gives him his proffors credit now. Is ice. Would you put

Ice tea? Nah, hold on. L.O. Coal J is not number two. It's Ice Cube is number two. Wait, Ice Cube is number two, then L.O. Coljay, then Ice T. Ice T. No?

Ice T's been on TV. We forgot Queen Latifah. Queen Latifah got to be top of it. Okay. Okay, this list is getting all fucked up. It's a great list. It's a great list. So here, so this was, so Will Smith is number one.

Right, yes. Number one. Unequivocally. The number two is, uh, I got to go with Queen Latifah, bro. Over Ice Cube. Yeah, set it off and the Equalizer and all the... Latifah has checked all of the boxes, but she also has the acclaim.

It's got to be Queen Latifah at number two. And then Ice Cube number three? Ice Cube number three. Okay. All right. Now, here I'm just going to list off some people. There's Ice Tea Ludacris, Tupac, D.MX, Andre 3,000.

Okay. Okay. Also, Mark Wahlberg. I'm... What you're trying to do, Charles? I was just... Feeling. Feeling.

No, we're not going for that. He's a... Mark Wahlberg is a fantastic big time. We're not... We're not going for that. Certain requirements you got to meet there. Okay, so then our top five right now is... Will Smith.

Will Smith. Queen of T-Fube. Ice Cube. is Luda in there? I feel like he's just in this. So here's a deal. So. I think Tupac has to be...

I don't know, man. Tupac has to be in there at some point. At some point. If we're not the greatest actor, but if we're talking about classic movies. Pock is, yeah. Come on, man. It's like, I think Pock is a fucker, first of all, a phenomenal actor. Yeah.

Right. But I think the thing, what you would say with Pock would be, does he have enough movies? Right. Like if you're going to put Pock above L.L. Cool J, L.L. Cool J was in a bunch of different movies. Does L.L. Cool J's volume outweigh Pock's impact quality in terms of juice, in terms of above the rim, in terms of poetic justice.

I feel like clearly, but they're locked. Ludacris. There's ludicrous volume. I don't know. I'm looking at LL Cool J movies. There's a lot of... Deep Blue C. Deep Blue C, slow burn, swore, swore.

Deepest blues, my hat's like a sharp fan. I love, I love, I'm not taking anything away from L.L. Cool Juggled. I love Swat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Forrest Tupac. Forrest Tupac. All right. H2O.O. Cool J's Fah. Oh, Cool J's Fong. Cool J's Fong. In T2. I feel comfortable about that.

LL Cool J is five. LL Cool J is five. Now, if we, now we looters in the top 10. Yes. I like DMX. Whenever DEMS is fun, man. It is in the top 10. So they're, There are definitely more people that are in this realm, all right? And we're not talking about rappers.

We're not talking about... Oh, fuck, we forgot Eve. Eve is in there. Eve has been acting for a long time. I had a great show. Eve is in there. Antraulte 3,000 had a time when he was cooking. Brothers was fun.

He acted for a while. Did it seem like he something he didn't want to do anymore? Tyrese not a rapper, but... I gave to... If we just talking about singers and stuff like this, a lot of people, Tyree is definitely... Tyrr is a fucking star, huh? Method and Man? Method man?

All of these people have had this career. Also, Yassim Vang, my man most. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. He's just the top five. No.

The Italian job. Come on. Let me tell you something about that. He must have got bored with it. I think he could have been I think he could have been one of the top five stars in the whole time.

Him and the Hitchhiker's Got the Galaxy is brilliant. I like him to Beacon Rwine. That's a movie with him and Jack Black. I think he just got bored with it. I think most deaf like, pound for pound is just one of the most talented individuals.

Magnetic? He just, he just must have got boy. He just must have got, he just must have got boy. They love it. They love it. They must have boy. Okay, but that's a top five. That's a good five.

That's a top five. I will say that just being for real, I could see most deaf, Yassine Bay, being in the top five as well. Yeah, no, absolutely. Well, actually, I wouldn't mock. Now, you can't take Pac out. Can't take Pac out. You could.

You could. You could. Pac-out. You're from LA. Let's talk the podcast. Let's talk the podcast. Jomey, I'm learning about you. I just, I'm just saying, man.

You could. I'm learning about you. I'm not saying you should do it. I'm just saying he could. It's thoughts and stuff. Yeah. That was fun. 50 definitely deserves to be in the honorable mentions.

I'm not too proud to admit it, dog. I was deep in the power bag for at least like, oh, way. That shit was. You don't like power? I don't want to not watch power, man. All right. Oh, you're tripping. This is crazy.

That's a good TV. That's a good show. You know what? This is my problem with sometimes. With these new blacks. This is my problem. You don't want to watch power, right? Power is a soap opera about the drug dealing world, right?

They got like book three, like it's Avatar. But you watch Emily and Perry. Yeah. You watch Emily and Paris. But you won't watch power? But you won't watch power? You don't watch power. You watch Emily and Penn.

Power. I want to clarify. Hey, I want to shout out. I want to shout out of Marry Hardwick as well. That nigger was that cooking. I've seen the beams. Cooking. I've seen the beans.

Body and 50 degrees. Bodies. That is from snowfall. That's Dams and Idris. That's wrong. I did it again. All right, man. All right, man.

He did it. I did it again. This is insane. I'm sorry. These d'nits don't even look alike. Man, shout out Damson. Shout out Amari. Those two of the homies.

I really don't watch either. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys. Shout out milk. Shout out damn. Do you want to know for real? Do you know the differences we snowfall?

What is it? What is he? It's about drug dealing. Oh my God. And then powers about that with the hip-hop. No, we can't. We can't. Not only did you miss up niggas, you missed up flavors.

You mixed up the caramel with the chocolate. Look, nothing alike. Let's go. I'm just saying stuff now. I thought it to see, I don't watch Emily and Paris. I hate watch Emily and Paris. I don't want to. It's already over.

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