The Ringer-Verse - Casting an All-Black 'Lord of the Rings' | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

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They're plucky. They're ready for adventure. But on today's show, which is why I zoomed through the beginning, we're giving you the big, meat. Oh, the big meat today of the show. The sizzling meat.

The sizzling meat. The Jonathan Kerma of the show today. Oh, right. We're making the earth black again. Middle earth black again. Let me tell you something. They put these movies out. They put these big fantasy movies out.

And they all have one thing in common. No niggis. No nits. We can't be an elf. We can't be an elf. be a dwarf. We can't be a wizard. We can't be a... Well, to be fair, they tried to make the elves black and the four

of us didn't give a shit. They came back. I don't give a shit, period. Even though I am reading the shit now and the shit is pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I don't give a shit, period. But we all know that that was just something that we're not dealing with in this new day and age, that woke bullshit.

Ain't that right, John? Hey, we're dealing with that woke bull. We ain't with that woke shit. Y'all know, Mip boys not ready for... You're not ready for the new age. You already see Disney and ABC. They like, they already. Disney said, fuck it.

They take it out of it. Yeah, like the Star Wars, Disney is on, I don't know if you guys heard this, but Disney is unleashing their new Star Wars strategy. And it's called Star Wars, stories for white people. Yep. The woke shit is over. It's done. Y'all didn't support it.

Y'all got mad. Disney said, fuck it. It's 1981. Right. All right. Or they might just give us our own version, which is what we're going to do right now. Yes. Which is why we are going to, over the course of the next year, blacken some of this stuff up, starting with Lord of the Rings.

Lord of the Rings blackfish, Charles, what are we about to do? All right. So we came up with this idea because I think we all realized when we were doing. debating whether we were going to talk about the Lord of the Rings anime movie. We didn't give shit about it. And if reports are correct, it seems like people didn't need it. We're also just like, yeah, yeah. We just want to keep these rights.

Right. So I think one way we would care is if there was more representation, if our people got a chance. Yeah. To chase after that ring. Now, the rules are really, really simple. Tell them what we're doing, though. Oh, we're, whoa, I thought it was obvious. We are re-

Casting Lord of the Rings as an all-black movie. All-black cast, black cast, black director. We are the producers. No Steve's, no milk, no nothing. No, Steve's on nothing. Steve is the one guy. We're producers. This is the Midnight Boys.

I need a bottom third right here. Midnight Boys Productions. Yes. This is the first production on M-B-P. Would it Pew-Pew Productions be a little roll-off? Pew-P-P-P. That's how long we need. No.

Pube, Pew Productions. This is our first deal. Right. No, but before, so what we're going to do is I believe. Co-C- CEOs, CFO, right.

Because you need to go get the money. And, Jome, what your title? I mean, what you're title now? CMO, chief meme officer. Chief meme officer right there. Chuck, take it away. All right, so we're going to have basically, let's see, five rounds.

We're going to recast. Frodo, Sam, Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimley, Legolas, Mary, Pippin, Boromere, Gullam, Sarmine, Sauron, Bilbo Arran, Galadriel, Elrond, but also, before we get into that, we're going to need to pick a budget for this. Got to have a budget.

We're going to have to pick a director. Need a director. We're also going to have to figure out where we are shooting this. Where we're shooting. Because it has to be accessible to a lot of the cast. New Zealand, a little far away. I don't know how many black people are chilling in New Zealand right now. Well, here's a deal.

We're making a movie, and that movie is going to have blackness in it. Yes. We don't want to go. New Zealand. We're not going there. Sure, there are black New Zealanders, though. There are. And by the way, shout out, they're black New Zealanders and shout out to the indigenous people of New Zealand and of Australia. There are really interesting stories out there about the indigenous people there and about the things that they go through. I mean, really,

I had Cliff, Good one time until we talked all about it. But we're talking about, we're going to black in the story. So even the roots of it are going to be black. So we have a couple places we can shoot. Lord of the Roots is crazy. Lord of the roots. Lord of the roots. There are only a couple places we can shoot. Okay. We can either shoot in the southern part of America,

black, or we can shoot Continent. Africa. All right, so this is, I was either, it's either going to be at,

let's go, let's go location. Let's go location first. Location first. I was either like, it either got to be Atlanta or we got to go to the motherland. Okay, can I make a pitch for Louisiana?

You can? Go ahead. Can I ask one quick question? Be careful. Be careful. I promise you. So when you say location, obviously Lord of the Rings is a,

like for Middle Earth, globetrotting adventure across many different places. Are we going to different places in different locations, cityscapes, towns, like, you know, rural areas. This is for fellowship.

We are only casting, good question, Fellowship of the Ring. First movie. Only fellowship. Because for this exercise, essentially, we're not doing what they did

with their original, Lord of the Rings, this is a risk. You know, they filmed those back to back. They didn't really have to prove their, like, that they needed to exist. Yeah. For us, we need to prove that the black, the black dollar is mighty and strong.

Yeah. We got one movie, this is only fellowship. So let me make a case, and I'm glad you asked that question. Let me make a case for Louisiana. Okay. Number one, Louisiana has a very healthy tax credit, which we're going to need.

Okay. I mean, I tried to take the tax credit away, but thanks to 50 sit and his studio, that exists in Shreveport and all the work that 50 is doing, it looks like we're going to have our tax credit back. Also, I'll tell you this, Louisiana, unbeknownst to some, has a great diversity of scenic options. I like this.

In the southern part of the state, you can traverse swampland, marshland, bayou, sugar cane, all of that stuff. When you go a little bit more north, you got piney woods, you got wide open scapes that remind you more. of Arkansas slash Texas or even to the east a little bit like Mississippi and stuff. So what I'm saying is if we wanted to shoot it, we could have part of it look a certain way in North Louisiana, the Central Louisiana, then West Louisiana. And then eastern down there, we could get more of a bayou-type feel when we're going

through some of the tougher places of our fellowship to traverse. So I like this. I like this. I think we're going to need the tax credit. I think we want to, there's a lot of big actors that we want to get on. budget, but Jomi, I need to ask you, your hometown. Africa might open us up for a more global... So Africa is Jomi's hometown, the entire...

I was going to... I was like, to be fair, to be fair. You know what I'm saying? The unwokening, right? You know what I'm saying? Unwokening, yes. Right, you know what I'm saying? So Africa is just, it's just one place.

So because we're dewokening, dewokening, this is going to be one of the least woke podcasts I need you to make the pitch for Nigeria but in the dialect Oh God. Oh, man. Of a Nigeria.

Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah, I see, well, you come to Lagos, yeah, shall? What we can do for you, eh? I give you a good price, good price, okay, good price. Give you studio, yeah? Give you a driver. Okay, we drive you to from studio. Easy, easy, easy.

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I made a good pitch for Louisiana. We probably should shoot in Africa, right? Yeah. Did they shoot Black Panther in Africa? No. They shot that she in Atlanta. They shot that on his own in Atlanta. They shot on a stout stage.

We should make Louisiana look like Africa. I'm saying they probably, we don't, and the one drawback about Louisiana would be, though, is that we don't have the studio facilities like Atlanta or different places. But here's the thing. Yeah. If we do Louisiana, we could probably get, you know,

one of the studios to let us shoot in Atlanta for a couple days for the CGI heavy shit. You know what I'm saying? And what do you imagine the CGI heavy stuff in this film looking like? Like you see Mordor, you see the eye of Sauron, You see all these, like, it's both like hellscapes and then big giant castles and big, like, what does that look like to you in a movie like this? Man, because they're not really giving us a healthy CGI budget for a black film. No way. So we're going to, hmm.

Black Panther shot a little bit. We should say, I'm looking at the locations. They did shoot a little bit in Africa. There we go. They shot a little bit of it in Uganda. So I was, I feel like. Very little of, very little of it was shot in Africa. they recorded takes in South Africa, Zambia, and Uganda.

So a little bit of it. So here's the thing. Why don't we do Louisiana, but we have some shoot dates in Africa for more of the like expansive, just to like to give back to just be like, we want this to be a global film. We want to unite. You know, I know how you feel about African Americans.

Me. Yeah. So what are you talking about? You told us before. I never said anything of that story. Don't put that. It was a rough day. Don't catch those aspersions on me.

All right. So we're doing Louisiana. Now we need director. Oh, wow. It needs to be a black director. Now, are we giving, my whole thing is I'm like, are we going for the biggest black director, like a Spike Lee? Or are we going for a, like, a more award-winning Barry Jenkins? You know what I'm saying?

Spike Lee's not. Spike Lee's not directing. That's not. Love Spike to death. How many of our fellowship were wearing Nick's hats? Spike Lee. Man. This is tough.

No, no, no, I mean, I'm trying to, you know. Okay, so let's look at Peter Jackson's career here. Okay? So let's, I mean, we don't want to base is off of past things, but let's look at Peter Jackson's career. You guys probably never, so he had had bad taste, meet the freebies, brain dead, Heavenly Creatures, fantastic movie. Jack Brown Genius, the Frightners is great. The Frightners is great.

The Frightners is really good. And then he gives Law the Rings in 2001. That tells me something that vision here is going to be as important as accomplishment. Yeah. However, we are casting. this to be funded by a studio, which means they might be less apt to take a chance on a director, a black director, that's not somewhat proven. Even in the past, when you look at black movies that were iconic, like a movie like the color purple, that had a white director.

Right. Now, when we fast forward to now, and you look at films like Black Panther, Ryan Coogler, who is a genius director, still had had box office. and artistic success with Fruitville and then Creed before he gets a call like that and I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first call

that they made to direct Black Panther he was definitely the right call but not the first call that they made so keep that in mind when you guys are thinking about the directors here

all right, damn wow part of me because unfortunately I did read the Barry Jenkins New York MAG profile my man ain't above

getting the bag we love to see it. I feel like you get buried. He already did Mufi. You know what I'm saying? He knows how to do CGI. He's already in the system. The studios already like,

they believe in him. They believe in him. Even if, like, Mufasa may not do what we want to do. Can we call Jordan Piel? Can we call Aver Duvrenay? Like, I think, I don't, I think Jordan is on a track where he's not doing IP. He's, he's making his IP.

I might be wrong. Do you think Jordan Pell will do this movie? What a good question. I think he would. He had kicked around the idea of, like, Akira a couple of times as well as like some other IP based things that were in his milieu.

Like he touched the Twilight Zone. Director and screenplay. Do we want the director to write the screenplay? Are we getting somebody else to do this? No, we're not bad. It's too much heavy living. Yeah, that's a lot. I don't know what, it's too much heavy lifting for this.

We're going to bring in. So this just director. This is just a director. But this movie, as far as just director, it is very, very important to get the right guy. And also, should we talk about before we settle on on director, budget? Like how much.

depend upon the director like how much of the director. Let's go director first and then we'll come back to budget. Could I put one name forward? Yeah. Steve McQueen. Yeah, he's definitely in the name. I really like his style. I think he's like mid to high budget for the things that we want for this. Prestige. He's prestige and he's got

like a lot of good acclaim to him. I like he's, I love widows. It's probably my main reason why I pick him. But he's got a great visual style that I really like. and I think he can do an ensemble like this. He's doing blitz, so we already know he got the war, bona fide, war movie. Like, he's not afraid of that.

He can do action sequences. He can do a lot. He's very good. Steepin of Queens are good. He could establish a place, which is very good for a story like this. Jones. I mentioned Jordan Pill, Ava Duvine.

So I'm going to go with Ava, and I'll tell you why. Okay. So I'm going to go with Ava because the movie as big as it is, just fellowship. Just fellowship. As big as fellowship is, it's really about relationships between characters, more so, and building trust. And that's something that Ava does fantastically in her films, right?

Think about things like Selma, when they see us, all of that stuff, right? So new gods didn't happen, unfortunately. So I would say that if I'm looking for somebody to really deliver on that. even if she was to not come back for two towers or return of the king. Because I'm actually in favor for switching directors for all three minutes. I disagree. I disagree. No, no.

No, no. We're not doing a last time. We're not doing a last time. No, no, no. This is, you mentioned Star Wars because that's a different thing that happened because it seems indicative of just like, okay, we hand the writer-director, like, duties to different teams as films are handed off. We have a plan for all three of these movies as a production company. We have a plan as a studio to make this vision happen from start to finish. My dark horse, not a black director, but hero Marai.

Wow. Atlanta knows how to work with a predominantly black cast, knows that like Atlanta look beautiful. You know what I'm saying? You probably can get Donald Glover, Stephen Glover. There's a cool factor there. Keep Donald Glover in mind. I gotta, I'm gonna fuck y'all hit up with something.

All right. So, but here's a thing. I do really think it is between. That's your question though? Yeah. Is a movie a black movie if it doesn't have a black director? I think it has to because how many classic black movies sometimes don't really got. So Fresh doesn't have a black director.

Hustle and Flow, I think. Hustle and Flow doesn't have a black director. The color purple doesn't have a black director. Like, there are a lot of movies. that are cultural staples that don't have black directors. So are those movies about black culture or are they black movies?

In order for it to be a black movie doesn't have to have a black movie. I think here's the thing, even though I said, Hero, I do think it's important that we give one of our guys, gals, our kings and queens a shot. I do think it is down between McQueen and Ava.

I think I'm going to... Mary Jenkins is a great choice. Barry Jenkins is a great choice. To be honest with you, I don't mean to confuse things. If it's not Ava, I would say Barry Jenkins. Really? Steve McQueen is a, I love Steve McQueen. When I tell you, I love Steve McQueen.

No, he's a film maker. He's a master. But I think for us to get the type of money that we want. Sure, sure. I think I'm actually, I actually agree with Barry Jenkins more. Why don't we do Barry Jenkins? Because, yeah, he does have the Oscar bona fide. Fides, Black Hollywood loves him.

Let's see what happens when Mufus comes up. No, no, no, no, no, here's the thing. That's the perfect, because here's, this is going to sound bad. If Lufaster don't do that well, I think we can get buried. On the cheat?

Not on the cheap. We still gonna take care of him. Give him a little back end, but I think we could get him for an affordable price. That's fair enough. It's just, it's such an interesting and wild choice because knowing that, like,

most of us hadn't really heard of Peter Jackson before Lord of Briggs. Like, he was a, like, middling to lower budget. it like horror and like genre director to just get something this big. Yeah, but white directors get that.

But I know. But they're not like me. But like he, but like, I'm wrong with niggins like that. Yes, I know. I will say there are other directors out there. For sure. Tim Story.

Tim Story. That's fantastic four. Oh yeah. That's a dish. You dis them, but that's cool. You know that that was a disc. Blitz. Um, from the color purple

musical is a fantastic visual storyteller. There are a lot of up-and-coming young black directors that I think could execute, but I think for us, we're going to have to bring some, some names into it. All right, you know what we'll do? I think what if we do Barry Jenkins and then our shortlist, Ava McQueen, if Barry passes.

If Barry would have passed. Okay, so Barry Jenkins is our director. So then what's our budget? Can somebody look up what the budget was for fellowship? Budget on Wikipedia is $93 million. What's that for adjusted for inflation? Oh, let's find out. Holy shit.

Okay, so that, that is a budget of around $180 million. But they also shot, I believe they shot this one in two towers back to back. Was that? I believe so, but I think that's only just for the, but like, they. It's only just for this one. So let's be honest. Let's be honest. That makes sense.

We need $200 million. Yeah. Do you think they're going to give Lord of the Rings, the black ass? Pew, Pee, Pee, you got to take the $200 million. You got to cut it by three-fifths. That's how you get the art budget. Wow. Damn

Woo Okay so let's look at this So 75% of 180 But we have Barry Jenkins Okay so how much What was the budget for Mufasa Oh okay True

Like whoa so we have Barry Jenkins What was the budget for Mufusso Reportedly 200 million Okay So if we have Barry Jenkins If Barry has signed on Right

We can at least ask for 200 Because if they can give him We're gonna ask Let's say actually we drop our nuts. We like we want $250. I feel like they might come back $185. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. So let's go,

let's say our budget's 185. Sure. All right. They're not going to give it because it's not. By the way, what studio is this at? I mean, well, the Warner Brothers has the IP, right? Is it Warner Brothers with the IP or is it a new line with the IP? New Line has the IP. Sorry, but it's

licensed. It's licensed because isn't that why they needed to come out with the anime to keep the movie rights? It's at WB I believe They have the They have the film lights For fellowship

Two Towers Like return to the king And everything Amazon has all of the like Similiaria honor Okay so then here's a deal So racer group If this is at WB

Where they might Underwrite our shit So we gotta make sure That we can't get back Yeah Warner Brothers and New Line Has the rights for Winter Brothers is a new line.

Okay, so cool. All right. All right. So round one. Round one. We're finally to casting. We have three to cast here. Frodo, Sam, you got to cast in the same group.

And I feel like for Gandalf. So we're going to start with Frodo. Everybody goes around. We're going to start with you then. Just give us who you're thinking and just like a little like 10, 15 second spiel. Okay. So for Frodo, I have Shameek Moore. All right.

All right. All right. I'm going to hate mine. I'm so glad you started with this. Mine. Mine is way worse. For Frodo, I have Shameek Moore.

For Sam, I have Brian Tyree Henry. Okay, interesting. Very interesting. I have it for Gimli. Oh, don't stop. Don't stop it. So Frodo, I have Shameek Moore for... Guys, I'm telling you,

Shemke Moore is perfect for this. Okay. Shemke Moore is a little bit of a smaller cat. All right. He's... Which, by the way, we don't need to worry about that. we can camera trickery there. At the same time, they got little niggas to do the

motherfucking. I'm not calling you a little nigga. I'm calling Elijah Wood a little niggins. Stop it. Elijah Wood is a little nigger. I understand that, but he doesn't need to be a old lady. Look at, look at him. Doesn't need to be the same height though. Look up how tall Elijah Wood.

Yeah, but you can't call him a little nitty. You know, like, if he tried to beat your ass. He's 5, 6. He's 5. 6. Sure, but again. I'm not saying he can't whip my ass. I'm saying, Sean ass, it is also 5, 6. Wow.

So I'm saying that you want to do it as. the least amount of work on the back end which affects as you can. Fix it in pre. And Shemke Moore is a great actor that is capable. He is. He really is.

He's a, he's a, he really act. I like, I like Shameeke, but we need it. We need a leading man. Shamee,

you don't, but no, I'm not saying, no, I said we need a leading man that we could kind of like, if you looked at Elijah Wood, you'd be like,

oh, this is a, but Frodo is not a leading man. Frodo is at every man. No, no, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm saying we need someone in this role who's not going to fucking drop R&B

fucking songs when he gets curved. Okay, well, you know what I'm saying? We got more picks around the room here. We got more picks around the room. So my Frodo is Shemique Moore. Right. And your Sam is... My Sam is Brian Tyree Henry.

Now, Brian Tyree Henry is a bigger brother, but I think he has... Right. No, I see the vision. I see the vision. I don't know. Try, imagine Brian Tyree. I think he has a Sam-wise type of situation.

We've seen the emotion that he could portray. I don't hate this. I'm going on. I don't think. I'm going Shamique with Frodo, Brian Tyree, Henry, Sanchez. Shemeek and Tyre?

I was, joking. Speaking of characters from, uh, or actors who were in Atlanta, my, uh, Frodo,

Donald Glover. See? Nah, no. You're not going to take that role. No. No, man. No.

You can't put Donald Glover in that role. I got another role for him, but he's not going to take that role. And then my, uh, Samwise is Lowry Howary. Interesting. I love Louer.

I would say. budget Little Ray's great. I got more stars on the back end. Also, he is 5'6. So I'm going to be honest with you. I love Little Ray for saying.

Lil Ra. That's, Lil'Rill's great. I was about to be like, nah, but then I thought about Get Out. And what he's in that movie, Lil'Rell is a sneaky good pig. That is good.

I think the Lil Rell Shameek tandem works even better. I mean, right now, Little Rells is, like, Lil Rell is an inspired. Lou Rell is in his side inspired because Lou Rale has a lot of different things that he can do. I love

Little Rale for Sam. Steve, where you at? Okay, so this was a slight tweak that I had had had at the last minute. My Frodo is going to be Justice Smith. Okay. Just Smith?

From a, the Dutch Pikachu. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dressic World. And he's also, but also, remember, he also went on to do that Magical Negroes movie and we don't need... What was the consensus?

What was the consensus on that movie? I saw the TV glow. That was a really good. He saw the TV glow. He was also in... What was the Netflix? Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, all right, besides the magical media shit, which is almost unforgiving. He got a good... Yeah. He does. Yeah, he's good. He's very good.

I like him a lot. That's a good Frodo choice. I wanted Samwise to be Lakeiths-Standiel. it's not going to work that and I didn't really think of dynamics here I just I just thought of like who could be a good like

more down to earth guy yeah and I thought of Lekeith but I don't know how they like feedback off each other because those two feel Lekeith not gonna be emotional enough to be your Samwise he's fair

he's gonna be a mysterious sexy Samwise and that's not what you mean and I was caught between two people but like my Gimley might be my Sam and I want my Gimley to be my Gimley Justin Smith for Frodo I like though. I actually, it's growing on me

now that, because he has the Frodo almost, he's got whimsy in his eyes. He's got whimsy, but also fragile, innocence, kind of just like you want to protect.

Yeah. So, all right. For my Frodo, rock with me here. Oh, shit. That's a good one. Tyler James Williams of everybody hates Chris

Avenue. That's a good one. Like a guy who like is network show beloved. Like we love him, but he's not the toughest this guy, but he can, like, he get funny, emotional, like. I honestly think that's a good choice.

I think he doesn't quite fit Frodo because he's maybe, what if at this point he's like, he's a little, so that's a great choice, but for some reason, I feel like there's something about him that's a little imposing. Could he be Sam? Could he be? No, no, but I think he has a strength thing. him. Yeah. And I think

Frodo needs a sensitivity that's, sure. Here's the thing. I'm going to be honest, though, for our Frodo, just for our, like he's going to be a little bit. We can't have a bitch up on this. Well, he got to though. It's part of the story. He got

to be a little bit like, oh, the Mr. Frodo, Mr. Sam thing. Like, Tyler got some shit with him, man. So this, this is my Samwise, but he also could potentially be a good Frodo, I love my man Cheaty from the Good Place. Oh.

Cheaty from the Good Place. Oh, yeah. Dorky. Kind of just like beloved, like, good actor. Is this the time where we have to have the conversation about Black American actors versus black actors from all over? Like, what are we doing with the dancing? Come on. Why can't they be from all over?

We're going across the diaspora all nine. Yeah, come on, man. Okay, just making sure because, like, you know, I don't keep it real for my niggas. All right. So who's our photo? I think Samwise is easy. I think my vote is for Little Row. Little Roel is great.

Little Roel is great. Little Role is Samwise. I think Justice Smith makes a lot of sense. I think our Frodo and our Samwise are probably Justice Smith and Little Rale. Okay. I really do think. I think it's Justice Smith. So for our big guns, now we have to think we got the chemistry between Justice Smith and Lowell for Frodo and Sam.

Okay. Our Gandalf has to have amazing chemistry with Justice. So I think this is probably the easiest. I got to give it to my man, Morgan Freeman. I think it's too old. Too old. Too old. This one is the easiest one to cast.

To me, yes. Gandalf is Denzel Washington. It's Denzel. Oh, because I had Denzel. No. Nope. No. I had Denzel for.

For some moment. Don't say. Don't say it. Gandalf is Denzel Washington. Gendezza. He's too old. Can I put forward mine? Sure.

Coleman Domingo. Nah. I don't mind Coleman Domingo. I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I think about you for you. I think about euphoria.

Like, Colm Domingo could do a nice mentor. He could. I do not think that he's old enough. I do not. Like, he's got a place in his movie somewhere. I do not think that he's old enough.

I think so. When you look at Ian McClellan in this movie, like I think you look at somebody that's 65 plus for Gandalf, right? And then you look at some. Is Coleman in like his late 50s? No, he's like in his mid to early 50s. Okay. Okay.

Actually, you might be 55 or 55. I don't mind Denzel. The only thing that I'm really afraid of is like, 55. If Denzel really just like washes these motherfuckers. And that's, you know, like,

you're talking about Ian McClellan. That's what I'm saying like washes them in terms of just like what we saw on Gladiator too. And I'm not saying that Denzel can't have the warmth that Gandalf has for the Hobbits and Frodo. But I feel like Denzel is just like a galaxy that's just going to absorb

everything in the beginning of this movie. I don't know, man. I feel like, and because we talk about Ian McKellen, right, they're kind of like similar, like people who grew up in the theater. Uh-huh. Right? Who know how to play up the majesty. I hear that. The etherealness. A warm

smile. Yeah. A protective thing. You cannot pass. Can I hear that? What's the, who's the demon motherfucker at the end of the movie when he's about to die? Like, seeing Danzel do that. Coleman can do that. Come on.

No, man. My vote is Denzel. It's Denzel. I don't necessarily agree, but okay. Denzel. All right. So for our big guns, we got Justice Smith, Lil Relo, Denzel. Now we're getting deeper into the fellowship.

All right. The three we got to figure out right now. Aragorn, Gimley, and Legolas. This is so good. Our Aragorn, I was like, it got to be the nigger of the moment, Aaron Pierre for me. I have Aaron Pierre as well for him. You guys both have Aaron Pierre as Eric. Yes.

Who do you got? I do not have Aaron Pierre as Erangor. I have Idris Elba as Aragorn. He's a little old. He's a little. He's a little. He's a little. He's a little. He's a little old. But I have Idris Elba as Aragorn. I had Edress. I got him. Yeah. I have him later. I have him later. I have Idris Elba as Aragorn just because he is the most Aragorn-pilled actor.

And here's the thing about casting. So look, so here's the thing. I see the vision. I see the vision. So here's the thing about casting some of this stuff as well. for us it sometimes we never when you're casting

black actors the dearth of actors we never have more guys that we can cast now but sometimes these guys are always a little too old if this was interesting his Stringer Bell era

I agree yes but not now that we're going to get him we're going to shoot these movies quickly is this is what 55 but the action that he's going to try to swing open that door like fucking

like Aeroor and he's going to hurt his fucking back He's 52 He's 52 He's 50 bro Wait a minute We're going to shoot these motherfuckers

In five years It's going to be fine man I think that he But he's my Erigo and I don't want to take him too much So Jomey Who do you have with Aragoy? So here's my thing

Right And you guys I'm just going to sound crazy When you hear it I need you to trust me Okay. I got John David Washington. Nah.

And here's, it here's what. Here's what. Okay. Nah. I don't hate it. Take me down. I don't hate it.

It's 40. The future king of men. Yes. 40. Right. When Vigo started doing Aragon, he was wrong at the same age. Uh,

okay? He's got credits, right? But nothing that like stands out, nothing that like pops when you look at it. Then you get to Lord of the Rings. oh, Daniel starts coming in. You get the, I mean, the Green Book Oscar, whatever.

Sure. But we're like, that's a name. Now we know who that guy is. I feel like they're on similar paths in their careers. And this could be the thing that we get, like, we have tenant, we have black Klansmen. This could be the thing that brings John David Washington out of the shadows. So there's no disrespect.

All respect to the Washington family. Makes him a star. John David Washington might be he could do the action of Aragorn, but I need gravitas. I need a certain level of acting that he just has not he has not shown. He's gotten opportunities. He was great in black Klansman.

Sure. I don't know. He was great in black Klansman. Yeah, but I think the main heavy list is. And you're a tenant guy. I love tenant, but here's the thing. That's not an acting heavy movie. No, no, no.

They don't give him a, they don't give him a name. Part of the tenant is just like he's just a dude. We're supposed to. You have a shot by movie that he was in? Oh, that's a great movie. Oh, the creator. The creator. Oh, my God.

No, no, no, no. No, creator slander. Even in that, I'm like, there's just something. There's a star quality that's missing. But you know what he does do? He gives a role what it needs. Right. And Aragorn has to be somebody that over the course of these three movies

kind of finds himself. I don't hate to pick. I think Idrisel is better, but I don't hate to pick. I'll flip this coin and think about what Vigo Mortensen was when he came into Fellowship of the Ring. What had we seen him in before? And what do we think? Oh, he had been around. Vigo had been in...

Like Crimson Tide? He had been in Crimson Tide. He had been in... He had been in G.I. Jane. Yeah. He had been in this one movie. American Yakuza. I'm looking at Young Guns 2.

Young Guns 2. Like, Vigo had been... Not unproven. Carlito's way. Vigo had been around, but this was Vigo's big shot. Sure. But he had established himself as a reliable, dependable Hollywood actor for a game.

I think for the case of Aaron, he is just red-hot right now. And I think that he had, like, this could be his big shot again. Also, if he wasn't doing great Leonard. He's doing John Stewart. He's doing John Stewart. He's going to be box office by the second. Okay, I be honest with you.

I think he's too pretty. I think that there's got to be a ruggedness. I think that there's got to be a rugged, rugged appeal. I think there's got to be a rugged, rugged appeal. Now, Interest album is very handsome, but I think there's got to be a rugged appeal to Aragon. Let's pause on Aragorn, maybe. Let's cast Gimley and Legolas and see what those actors are. And potentially we can get to Aragol.

I got my lock. for Gimley. I already told y'all, I think we need to get Brian Tyree Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry. Okay. So you think you think Brian Tyree Henry for Gimley? I think so.

I have Winston Duke. Yeah, I have Winston Duke as well. Ooh, I love Winston Duke. I love Winston Duke. I love Winston Duke. But I like, I like, I like. No, it's easy. I think it's Winston Duke.

Winston Duke. Winston Duke is really. That's a lot for me. To me, the easiest to cast were Gimley and and and, uh, and Gandalf. Winston Duke a lot.

Yeah, I love Winston Duke. That's a real act. It's funny, physical, burly. Funny, burly. The whole knot. Now, Winston Duke can give us the comedic effect, but then we have to be like, if we're picking Winston Duke, who's our leg of loss.

This is easy for me. This is easy. Ray J. John Page. Same. Same. Right here. Hey, bro. Hey, same, bro.

Come on, come on, bro. That's easy. That's easy. So he's a lot. He's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. You need a pretty nigga.

Yeah. You have a pretty nigga. So I'm gonna throw out. I'm going to throw a name out there. Dance and Idris. Nah. He's not. He's.

Sorry, what was he in? He's handsome. He's handsome, but. Did you just ask who dance? Dancent. Dancent. Wait, I just been, oh, right.

Of course. Of course. Of course. Sorry. Yeah, I had them. I'm saying I'm, I am being biased towards the dark skins in this. I can see right now. I'm just being biased to the dark skin.

I will say, guys, we got to be careful. Because justice, reggae, like. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, light skin in this. Y'all light skin in the movie. Aaron Pierre. Y'all want to cast Aaron Pierre. Y'all let Steve take over.

It's going to be a beige Lord of the Rings. This is going to be a Lord of the Carmel. All right, we got to make sure. So are we going with Reggae for Legalos? He's the obvious choice. I do want to think about it for a second. Let's think about our Aragorn, our Legolas, because we have to be real, like, this can't be the last in a living with. But Legolas is like the biggest hymbo in fiction.

Yes. Like, that's, I think it's perfect. It's not a heavy lift for acting, I don't think. Like, you just got to look into the wind and think about shit. Like, you're good. Who's the most handsome motherfuckers? It can't be Michael B. Jordan. No.

No. Wow. Like, actually, Michael B. Jordan is a low-key, erigorn pick. Nah. No. No. Yeah. Bro, bro, bro, bro.

Do it, don't you. Bro, Michael B. Jordan is a low-key erigorn pick. I understand where he coming from. I do. I do see it. But when I, like, when I think the leg is with you, it's a slam dunk that he's Aragorn. No.

Here's a thing. Wait, no. Did he Jordan Aragorn? Michael B. Jordan. If we get Michael B. Jordan as Aragorn. I think we can walk back in and get that 200 mil. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

He's boxing. I think it's a slam dunk that he's Aragon. Because here's what you do, too, if we're being real, besides Denzel, we are a little low on Star Power right now. Although our main cast. I know. But like again, like, there's a, I mean, I feel like there's a lot coming down the pipeline. But I think to their point, if we do want to, Steve, you got to get this guy to get through the door.

We got to get it. I understand. This is the perfect role for Mike. Sure. If I were to say what the perfect role for Mike would have been, it would have been Legless to me. No. Only because I mean. No.

I know that he's too big. But like, I'm only, I cast this. And when I thought about like who to put in this movie, I think about the right person. only because to me when Lord of the Rings hit theaters, I knew almost no one. And it's the idea

that like we know all of these people's names and I get it that this isn't going to be like the star making vehicle for a lot of these people. But I came into it knowing that like I need to find the right person. Wait, you know who would have been a great leg of loss though? He too old now?

Michael Ely. That's what, yeah. I mean, again, Michael Ely would have been the easiest call we ever made. That would have been the easiest call we ever made. But the way I, The way I look at it is this. First of all, it's a different time in filmmaking.

I get what you're saying. It's a different time in filmmaking. They did have some stalwarts in there, like Elijah Wood and Sean Ash. Sure. But the biggest box office name to us when that movie came out was Orlando Blue. But it's just different. No, that movie made Orlando Bloom. Am I not thinking the Pirates came before?

No, it didn't. Yeah, that movie. Also, we got to be real. This is a black movie. They not let, like, we've got to have a star. I think Michael B. Jordan is such a black. Makes sense. It was such a blind spot for us.

He is actually the perfect error. Wait, actually, could we do Michael B. Jordan for Aragorn and then Reggae for Legolas? Yes. Yeah, okay. Let's do that. Michael B. Jordan is our Aragorn. Okay. Winston Duke is our Gimley.

Winston Duke is our Gimley. I like this. I like this. I love Winston Duke for Gimley. And then Reggae Jean-Page. So here's a thing. Let's go over. We got Justice Smith is Frodo.

Lil Rella Sam. Denzel is Gandalf. M.J is Aragon. Winston Duke is Gimley. Regajan, how do you say, Zay? Rajajon, I just said. Reggie Jean Page as Legalos. Now we got a role, like, we got the rest of the fellowship.

These two were sneaky hard for me. Yeah. We have Mary Pippen, then Boramere. I think my problem with Mary Pippin is that we, this is now where we have to decide what type of black movie this is. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. I lead all the way into that bullshit.

I went all the way to wrong way. Is this the shit that they're putting on at 1am on VH1? Is this going to be how high? Is it going to be? Y'all not going to like me. Let's do, let's, we got to do Mary and Pippet together. Okay. I got Kevin Hart and Tyrese.

Wait, wait. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I. We bring these brothers back in. Yeah. I say something about in the world of comedy. Cat Williams is Pippins. Yes. I'll tell you something in the world of comedy.

We got to do something to get Cat Williams and Kevin Hart on the same. Come on the same. Yeah, man. These are two Titanic talents. Make them to shake hands. Get them to shake hands. Tastatic talents. We put them in this together, and I'll tell you all something about Kat.

Cat has dramatic dimensions. Yes. Cat Williams can really play. any role you need them to. Cat Williams would kill. Alligator man. Alligator man from the... Cat Williams can really go.

So it's Kevin Hart is Mary and then Kevin Hart is Mary and then what you call it as? Cat Williams is Pippin. Yeah. I have the same thing. I don't. Who do you ask you? He took it seriously. Oh, I did. I have Anthony Anderson is married.

And Kee and Michael Key is Pippin. Ah, now we're not doing that. Okay, that's fine. What's why we can't be Michael Key? Nothing. Uh-huh. Like, nothing is wrong. He's fantastic. Sure.

He's, he's fantastic. I overthought it. He really, no, no, he didn't overthink it. Those two guys are great. Anthony Anderson would have made, because Anthony is really talented. Anthony Anderson would have made a, like a good Samwise back in the day.

No, like a slick Gimley too. True, yeah. Anthony Anderson would have been a slick. Does he got that fighting him though? Yeah, that's a nigga from Compton. Okay, but again, I'm just thinking about his filmography. That's a talent, hustle and flow. that's a talented

funny like that's a man I was only thinking of like scream and or not scream I think I think Blackish too made people forget that like he a movie movie oh yeah no Anthony Anderson is a fucking talented motherfucker and if you also has that thing with him

to where he would have been great for Gimley as well all right so for Boramere y'all I missed on I missed on this someone that like you're gonna love but then you're like this motherfucker then you're gonna hate yeah I I think we've got to go.

Terrence Howard? Terrence Howard? Yeah, you're not taking this exercise. What? No. What? No way. Hey, man.

Hey, me. Okay, what if we do this? What if we do? What if we do this? What if we do this? What if we do this? Because that's not going to work. That's not going to work at all.

What if we do this? What if we go? Since we went Michael B. Jordan, think about this tandem. Since we went, Your mom, Terent Tower would kill him. You are no elf, ma'am. You ain't no elf, May. Who are you, man?

You would have been my key? One ring to rule them all, may. Terence Howard's got a place in this movie somewhere. What? In our trilogy. Territour is an OG, bro. He's a legend. Like, come on, bro.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Does he have the Ferrer Fawcett wig on? Hold on real quick. We got to put more respect on Terranth. I got to say something real quick. I know people become mean. And this is going to be like overwrought because we having fun. I know people become means.

But every single person that we're talking about is deadly fucking talented. No, of course. I mean, Terrence Howard is not a good actor. He's a great actor. Terrence Howard is not an eyed actor. Terrence Howard is a fucking great actor. Yes, he is. Right?

Nominate Academy Award nominee Terrence Howard is how you say. And then he made his own mathematics. Then he made his own mathematics. That's tough. But if you're talking about just what happens. happens when you on that fucking screen. Terrence Howard is crazy good at what he does.

Wait, so then who's our Boromir? I had, this is going to be, this might not be the right. Well, it messes it up for our Aragon, but I had Jeffrey Wright for Boramere. So I like Jeff. I think he's almost he's too old, but then again, he

would have worked with Aaron. I have an older Boramere too, though, because I just thought about something. I want Idris in this movie and some way. That's my Borrere. Idris can work as Borrador. Good word. Idris works as Auradourne. And we think about it.

Aragon and Borrmeir are the two characters that would most be. Sure. I think that's easy. Sure, sure, sure. I think that's easy. Edris. All right. So guys rounding out our fellowship, Kevin Hart and Kevin Hart and Cat, well, he's in marriage. Hey, by the way, I don't want people to, like, jump on that, like, that's not real.

No, that's awesome. I love, Kevin Hart acting is a little. he's a good actor. He can act. Look, Mary and Pippen are, you know, they're comedic relief. Yeah. But they also have to have a heart.

But they got heart and they have a great story in two and three. And they smoked that low bottom leaf. Also, Kevin Hart, he going to put asses in the seat. You know? All right, so, we only have two more rounds left. This is where it gets a little tricky, the villains.

I don't think so. Gallum, Saramon, Saron. Okay, I know y'all not going to fuck with. I was criminally unsirious with Gallum. Yeah, I had the hardest time with Galum. I don't know, man. It was easy for me. Need somebody, you know, who can be a little bit sneaky, who be a little bit slimy,

who can just completely and utterly devolve into the worst of us. McKee Stanfield, Smokowl. Oh, that's good. That's good. You went serious. That's good. Yeah. Because I also think he's a great actor who will devote to the mocap, will do the movements.

He'll go mess. go the entire way. For sure. All right. So for Ghalam, you guys, wait. See the vision really quick. Just see the vision.

Okay. Because I like Lekeith. But I think Michael Rady Jr. from power. As God. Too young. Come on. Can I give you,

can I give you mine real quick? It's not going to be good. I'm too young. What? Eric Andre. As Gondon. Yeah. Oh, I.

I like Eric Andre. Can he be serious, I think so. I think it could. I just think, I just like, what can be, like,

if anybody is guilty of, like, being comedic and also acting with Golm behavior, that's Eric O'N. I don't know. I love Eric Andre. It's a really serious role.

It is a very serious role. Because I only think, I'm like, who gives me Gallum vibes just in real life? He do, but the thing is, like,

I mean, and I'm speaking for myself, when I watch these movies, I fucking hate Gallem, and he's so fucking likable Eric Andre. Yes. Like, when I watch Eric Andre, I'm having a good time I'm laughing.

Like, it's cool. It's little cringy. But this is also one of these, like, kind of formative things. Like, this is a CGI creation, what Ghalm was in the original films. What do we do with Eric Andre or whomever we pick with our Gullum? Is this, like, a person in makeup? Is this a CGI? Yes.

Like, if we were just doing a voice, Lowell Wayne's voices, Gollum would be. No. Okay. Charles, you're not serious. You're not serious. What? I just, I really think that. Like, there's a physicality to Eric Andre that I think actually really translates to Gallum very well.

I see the vision. I just, I can see it. I don't hear it. I think it's where I'm not. I also hear it, frankly. Here's the thing. If he puts on even the slagher. I don't know if I hear Lakeith as Gallum.

You have to have a certain type of, like, voice. Van? So, I'm thinking about this now. So, Jeffrey Wright, as, as, as, as, as Gallum. I got him later. Oh. Whoa. Whoa.

I like Jeffrey Wright. Jeffrey Wright as Gowling. As Ghalham? Because you need a character who's going to commit to the movement. I got two choices for Gowlam for you guys. Okay. Jeffrey Wright, Don Chitton. Jeffrey Wright, Don Chitton.

As who? Sorry. As Gowlum. Don Chito has a silky, amazing voice. He's a great voice actor that he gets. He's a fantastic. He's great. A lot of experience with the mocap from.

From the Marvel movies, I got Don Cheadle as Gowl. I just, like, I'm thinking about somebody that just, like, gets on, like, all fours and, like, hunks over a fish and, like, like, like, it's, like, smart. Black Man again on all fours? Stop it. That's insane, bro. You know what I'm talking about. You're not framing me. It's 2025.

Steve, the Buckbreaker on me. Oh, you. Yo, yo. Yo. Yo. Oh. Oh. Yo.

I'm part of this production company. Let's go back to Gallum. Saraman. No, we gotta cast Gallum right. We'll get to. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. But we're still in villains.

Saramon. Who's going up against Denzel? I had Jeffrey Wright at Saramon. That's a good pick. I do like Jeffrey Wright. Can I do like Jeffrey Wright? A slight counterpoint. Wesley Snipes.

Mm-mm. Oh. Wesley. I like Wesley. I like Wesley. I save some money on Saramon. I think we could save some money on Saramon. Save some money on Saramon.

Yeah. I went with Dennis Haysbrun at Sarma. Oh. Oh. President for 24. I went with Dennis Haysbert. Denzel versus Denzel. I'll be honest with you, because they would always take Dennis Haysbert and make him.

I spelled his mouth on his name. They would always make Dennis Haysbert. Like they would say, oh, Dennis Haysbert's the. So I won't stop hearing. Are you in good hands? I won't. Bro. Yeah.

So I had Dennis Hayesburg. Dennis Heisbert might be the move. Because we, got to say some great. That's how we can get potentially like a Jeffrey Wright to play a golom because he's going to want a lot of them.

Can we just put Sauron's voice up in the rafters right now? Because this isn't going to be the easiest pick for me. This is one of my locks. Can we get to that? I mean, that's Morgan Freeman. I was going to say Morgan Freeman. No.

Who? Keith David. Keith David. Keith David. Keith David. It's Keith David. It's Scott. Dude.

Like, come on. No. It's Keith David. Sauron, are you kidding me? That's a lock. Also, we can save some money on that. That's a real OG, but like, Keith David. He got to be here.

Keith David is one of the ghosts, no doubt about it. I'm just trying to think. But Morgan, here's the thing, getting Morgan Freeman on the poster somewhere also is going to add a little. Morgan Freeman can't embody the voice of pure evil like Keith David. Come on. Like, that's, like, that's the devil. I got Morgan Freeman on here.

I think we can find a spot. But if Morgan Freeman, if we just talk about straight up voice, That's Keith. That's Keith. Come on. I'm not mad at Keith. I'm not mad at Keith. So what's our Gallum?

I think Saramond, we, Dennis Hayesbert. Do we, do we pick Jeff? Do we pick Jeffrey Wright for Garlandre? To me, it's either Jeffrey Wright or Lakeith. It's down to them. I could see. I would go Lakeith then. A little younger, can devote more to the physicality of the role.

Yes. We know we can get weird. Yeah. My only problem is, are we going to get? like a fucking burnt-house stoner Gallum. You know what I'm saying? No, he's got to have energy. Keith, a true professional.

Yeah. No, no, no. That's something he's saying. Like, I was more so saying, we don't want Atlanta, Lekeith. No. He needs something a little bit different.

No. I think that when we're thinking about the role, look, I don't mind the Keith for it. I don't mind. Before we say, who are the weirdest black actors in Hollywood right now?

Like the most, like, off-kilter guys? Off-killed-guid. Because, like, I was thinking, like, someone where, like, Daniel Kaluya is like to me where it's just like he could do a bunch of different roles He could get like who are those

Lakeith is in that Who are those people where you want? There's so much Talent out there right now Yeah But of all of those kind of off kilter guys Keith is probably Let's do Lakeith then

I think Lekeith for Ghan works All right so for Gallum we're doing Lekeith We got Dennis Hayesberts as Saramon Keith David is Sauron All right our last but definitely not least we got to figure out who our Bilbo is Arwin Gladriel Elron

Okay this was very Well this was hard and also not hard I don't actually I didn't pick a Bilbo I don't know who my I want my Bilbo to be You can just write my pick off I picked Omar Epps as Bilbo Yeah it's not gonna work Yeah it's not gonna work I picked I had Will Smith

Will Smith Will Smith? Mill Smith No I don't know Well handsome as Bilbo Yeah but he's getting like Getting older you know, somebody who can... The jovial uncle.

Yeah, like, there's a little fun to him, but also, like, a little bit of, like, dark... Just like a tad bit of darkness with the ring. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Somebody who, like, you love, and you're always like, man, I hope they get back to, you know, Uncle Bilbo. We can't blow our bunch of on Billbo, bro.

Bilbo, too. Billbo can't be. Bilbo can be a little bit more. So, okay, wait. So we're casting older Bilbo now because this is... Yeah, because he's 111 at the beginning of... Yeah. It can't be will, bro. Okay.

It's got to be somebody that's a little bit. bit more cuttly. We got to think about this. It's got a little bit longer in a tooth than like older. I mean, you got to be. They got to be. I mean, what does, what does Dennis Haysbert do for Bilbo? Me thinks. Nah, Dennis Haysbert's

not Bilbo. No. Does Don Chito work as Bilbo? Fuck, too. Not really. Need somebody with some because they'll need somebody with with some Will Smith is 56. Don't Cheatle. But you got to think about how Billbo's supposed to come off. Think about how Bilbo's supposed to come off.

Right? Yeah. Does Anthony Anderson work as Bilbo? Oh. I mean, you got to get him in, like, old man face. I think Anthony Anderson might be very good. Does Lawrence Fishburn work as Bilbo? No.

That's a little bit too much gravitas, don't you think? Could be. He's not as cuddly. Why do I really like Anthony Anderson for Bilbo? I think, I mean, I don't mind Lawrence. I mean, Sam, Sam Jackson probably too, too burly for it. I had Sam as first, but Sam's going to bring. Sam, okay, so look, if we, you could do Sam Jackson as Bilbo.

You could do him as Bilbo. Okay. Uh-huh. But that's kind of a different billbo. Can I? You can do Sam Jackson as Bilbo, though. Can we do, can we do Danny Glover? Danny's on the feeble side, right?

Okay. Take that out. Does a, Danny don't move around well. Okay. Here's the thing. We're running out of the main roles here. I was trying to put Jamie Fox somewhere. I don't think he works for Bilbo, right?

It's not the worst thing I ever heard of. It's not bad. What about Wesley? Snipes? Now, who was our Bilbo? Bilbo is tough. Who was our Bilbo in? Because you know what?

A lot of these actors still come across as too young and virile. Who was our billbo? It was, it was, it was, Martin Freeman was the Bilbo. Martin Friedman was a hobby. But our billbo in... Ian Holm. In home. And let's look at Ian Holm.

Oh, Ian Home is like a classically trained actor. That's, I know Ian Home from the Alien. Alien. Alien. That's kind of what you're thinking about for a Bilbo type guy. So our Bilbo might not be someone who is like a huge name, but it's got to be somebody that can give us the I've traveled the world and gained all the wisdom. Hey, Uncle Billbo.

What about a Sterling K? Too young. Too young. Too young. Too young. That's the problem. Here's the thing. Black men age really well.

That's the problem. Could Coleman do it? No. I know he's too young. When Coleman can't do it? But here's the thing. But like, are we, we could put, we can make them old. Right?

I know. We could age them. Yeah. But you guys are always, you think about. Is John. Did a John Amos stop? John Amos. Yes, he did.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's think. Okay, let's just look. Let's just fucking, okay, we're going to do this real quick. This is tough. Actors.

Over 60s. And a lot, I feel, this is making me sad because a lot of people I want to pick, they passed away. Like Andre from a fucking, um, Brooklyn 9-9. Yeah. Yeah, Andre Bauder, yeah. Carl Withers also. Carl Weathers would be perfect. Carl Weathers would have been.

That would have been. That would have been perfect. That is so slow, Bilbo. Cuban, because of Junior, definitely not our. People going to be in jail. Um. Ouch. Uh, let me see here.

Oh, I got one. Michael Jai White. I got one. I got one. Delroy Lindo. Yeah. Del Roy. Lindo.

Oh, shit. Delroy Lindo. That's the one, bro. As Bilbo Baggins. Oh, yes, you nailed that. Could Clark Peters be Bilbo? Clark Peters Freeman from the wire

Oh Oh Is he an even better Bilbo I love Clark Peters Clark Peters Because the other thing I will say

The only thing about Delroy Lindo is I feel like He could be a little bit Too imposing In a lot of his roles Where I think Clark Peters has more of a like Warmth to him

Even though it could be like To me when I see him He has that uncle type of energy Okay. Clark Peters or Delroyd either. Yeah, I like Clark Peters. I like Clark Peters. Clark Peters is Bilbo.

Because he's also older and because we have that relationship, especially with the wire, you can be like, damn, he has been on a fucking journey. Yeah, Clark Peters is Bilbo. Now let me ask you a question. Now, let me think about Delroy Lindo. Is there any world where we swap out Dennis Haysbert for Delroy Lindo and we make Delroy Lindo? Gando? No.

No. Sarma. Who do we have for Sarmon already? I like Delroy and Sarmon too. He can be really scary. He can be scary. We going to do Delroy? It's happening.

Okay, okay, that's a good swap. Who's going to tell Dennis? Who's going to tell Dennis? Hey, listen, he's got all-state money. He's fine. He's in good hands. Dennis is a fantastic actor. We got to find something for,

know what this means? Know what we do? We got to have to find something for Dennis in the sequel. Sure. Find something for Dennis. But Delroy and Lindo. What? I'm thinking about who

for him to be. He's that king that ate all the cherry tomatoes. Yeah. So we find something for Dennis. We're going to get a pay. We're going to get Dennis paid.

Find something for Dennis and this. But guys, we make a cutthrow business decisions. Cutthrow business decisions. Come on, PPP productions. People be productions. Cutthow business decisions.

That's our fucking motto. All right now. We'll cut you out this fucking movie. I got y'all. You'll never fucking work in this fucking town again fucking with us. Okay. Like you show up to

set on time. All right. Get off Twitter. We fucking locked in. I got to be real, though. We go into our ladies now. Okay. Arwin.

Now, let's be careful. Nah, man. Let's be careful. I'm excited. Don't be casting no light skin. No, I got to do it. I got to do it. You know is it.

No. No. No. No. We got to get a day in this movie. Got to get a day in this movie. We got to get kids to the theater. Bro, that's box office.

Come on. Box office. I want. I want who I want. Who do you want? Kiki Palmer. That's not going to work. Come on with Kiki.

All right. You're not taking this. That's the most fantering. No, no, no. No, no. Blakiki works as the, as, uh, as, uh, glodger. Gladio? No.

Gladriot is got to be old. Okay. Oh, well, so, so. So, so. I had Holly Berry's collard. That's good. That's good. I got, I got a, I got Regina King.

Angela Bassett. Oh, I love Regina King. Oh, my God, Regina. Oh, my God, Regina is good as Galadro. Um, so I had Nicole Bihari. as Arwin. I had Nicole Bahari

was she in? Nicole Bahari is she's in the morning show she was in striking vipers she was Oh I know what you're talking about Yeah

Right Or the most beautiful human beings You'll ever see before In your fucking life I had Nicole Bihari Nah she can't be in this book She's beautiful

She's beautiful But she's not Armin Why not? Yes she's just the Armin So here's the thing with Zendaya. There is an aura around her, not to use the kids' words, but there's an aura around her that you, like, she knows when she's walking to the room,

she's the most beautiful person in the room. I don't think Zendaya, I don't think we're going to, I don't think Zendaya is taking this role. Here's the thing. It's my thing. Michael B. Jordan is Eragon. You need someone who could, like, I think Zendaya would pick this.

I think Zendaya would do this role. I don't think she's taking this role. No, I don't think so either. I don't think, I think she's past this role. I think you could offer her to role, but there's not enough for this character to do for Zendaya. You could have got Zendaya to do this.

Before Dune. Pre-dune, yeah. But I think now, I don't think Zund... Who's our Liv Tyler now? In terms of black actresses. So, Liv Tyler at this point was a well-respected, like, very dependable actress. She had chops, for sure.

That's in a lot of, that's been in a lot of big movies. But, like, as far as a movie that made, like, huge money, this might be the one that she's in, like, the most. Like, so to me, like, you can, you can want Zendaya for this role, but I think if we go out to Zendaya for this role, I don't think Zendaya's taking this role. I don't think she's taking this role. I think there's not enough for her.

But I do think for this role, since there's not that many women roles, we do need someone who has a little bit of, like, oomph to them. Why do we dismiss Kiki? Just educate me on why that doesn't work. No, no, Kiki a legend. I love Kiki, but she's not. We're not dismissing Kiki. We're just saying that she's not right for this part.

Okay. Like Kiki Palmer is fucking fantastic. I just think that she could, like, she is incredible. She can both be incredibly serious and have a sort of air to her that while she is very, like, warm and jovial in, like, her personality, I think she has the acting chops to do literally anything. She has acting shops to do anything, but I think that you need a role that has a little bit more to it to, to like really like ground her in this. Like it, to be honest,

I just don't think she fits this particular role. You know, Amandala, potentially? Amandala from an acolyte. Hmm. Yeah. Little.

Y'all not trying to get Ayo in there from the bear? Oh shit. I know Ayo. I love I.O. I love I.O's great. Ios great. She can't be. She can't be.

Come on. I don't be every black. Black woman character in every single movie TV show. She's working. I'm not hating, but we get it. Come on money.

Damn, I'm trying to think who. So you, if, yeah, if it was a day of pass, brus, it's tough. It's a day of past. It's tough. I'm looking right now,

and it's like, damn, we need to do better by our queens because they don't be letting our queens and shit. Well, I'm telling you literally, Tadley Bailey,

though, like the perfect person to play the role, in my opinion, is Nicole, is Nicole, is Nicole, They are.

She is, bro. I don't think so, man. Wow. The perfect person to play the role, if you,

if you look at it, the movies that she's been in, 42, like, uh, Jacob's Ladder. She's been in this, I think this is,

this is, this is film. She played, uh, Monsters and Men. She's, she's in the, the black mirror.

She's been in black mirror. She's in the morning show right now. Oh, she's like, to me, little fires everywhere. To me, she's perfect for the room. Nobody brought up Zasi beats.

we're just going to keep it pushing. No Zoe? Cravitz? Maybe. Zoe's, I don't hate Zoe. I don't hate Zoe. We're getting closer with Zoe. Yeah, we're getting closer.

That might be called number two. Zendaya says no, that might be called number two. Lupita Nyanga? Oh, what the... Yes. Wait, do you think Lupita would do it? Yeah, I mean, yeah. The people would do it.

Yeah. I think Lupita would do it. No, she's too young. I do it. You want to do it? know I like LuPita too. We got to get some more of our, you know, Chocolate Sisters in here because this is a very

light-skinned cast right now. That's y'all. How'd I mean? Every single dark-skinned person I put up for the movie. I put it in Winston Duke. That's not true. All right, Steve.

Every single guy liked. Who's your favorite dark skin actor? Top five. I did set that up. Yeah. Top five. Name five. Name five.

I like Lupita. Lupita's good. Your Peter's good. I like Lupita. I'm trying to think, let's just make sure we have our, our, Lupita's really good.

And also, like Michael B. opposite Lupita box office. Black Panther, as another dynamic as well. As a whole deal. Let's just make sure that we, that we have it all.

Who, what black actresses right now that are in that spot, beautiful elf queens, are we forgetting? A beautiful elf queens? You're not lying, bro. Beautiful elf queens, are we forgetting?

Like, I'm just imagining Lupita in a cloak that I'm locked in. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I'm watching it eight times. Honestly, y'all gonna hate me for this. At this point, we already got Kevin Hart in this joint. You might just want to call it Rihanna. She can't act for shit.

But you know, we put asses in the scene. I don't think she's a bad actress at all. She's not. We did say Jody Turner Smith. Jody Turner Smith. No, I think Rihanna, I think Rihanna would be good in the row. Not better than Lou Peter. Not better than Lupita.

Lupita gets us to the Oscar. Get us to the Oscar by the third one. Once again, what I'm saying is that this movie does not have a lot for this character to do. So unless I'm misremembered. If you want him come and claim him, she like finds, oh my God, no, she like ushers him out from the river. No, she's got a couple of things to do here. But to be clear, we're only casting, like, in these rounds. For these roles, there's only really two box office women roles.

So we got to kind of use our money to be like, hey, sisters, we got you covered. We got Lupita in this bitch. Look, show out. This, in the movie, they give her a more prominent role than her literary counterpart, right? So we're going to, we can outweb like, look, in the books, not doing much. All right. Who are, who are, who are, who are Arwins? Lupita is in the, Lupita, Rihanna.

I like Lupita. Zendaya. Lepita. I think Lupita works. Lepida, Rihana, Zendia. boy, I know this sounds crazy, but I want some black American actresses in here. I do.

You're not offering up any... I mean, I offered up a perfect person for the role. Y'all they want to have a role. Y'all don't believe in her. Y'all don't know ball. Nicole Bihari should be in a role. Okay. Can you imagine if Storm reads...

Oh, my God. Storm's two years. Like, a lot of these... He's young. Storm is young. Okay. I mean, let's... Skyjacked.

Sky Jackson, be for real. Be serious. Y'all, y'all hate people's careers a little bit when you're laughing at them. So, like, it's like, okay, so Lepina Nago, we'll go with Lopinia. Okay. All right, then, who's our gladriyo? I had Regina King.

I like Regina. I had Angela Bassett. I'm putting my friend in the movie. Oh? Tracy Ellis Ross. Ooh. Yeah. I'm putting my friend in the movie, man.

Lock it in. I love it. Lock it in. I'm putting my friend. in the movie. I love Tracy. Tracy Ellis Ross. Once again, I'm going to be honest. This movie's getting very light skin.

Once again, not my fault. What? Like, not my fault. You just said. What you mean? We just put, you just blame all of us. I had dark skin people for all of it. Y'all niggas wanted to put, y'all niggas wanted this whole movie to be Aaron Pierre and Reagan. Y'all be? Y'all want

like this whole movie. Okay. I, I like Tracy. Tracy's amazing. Tracy's great. I'm just saying you can't come in us to be like, oh, there's only light skin people in this movie. Like, oh, Tracy's glass. You know what I'm saying?

Come on, man. We're talking about it. But we, at this point, like, okay, we have to make sure that there's representation across the diaspora of skin tones in this movie. So let's go through the lighter skin and darker skin. I think we have a-on-on-the-light skin side. We have Holly. We got Tracy.

We got Regina's on the light-skinned side, too. Regina who? King. Gina King? No. No. You're talking about. What?

That's... I don't be doing what the fuck y'all talking about. What? What are you talking about? Regina King? On this... That's a chocolate black lady.

It's a chocolate black lady. All right. I don't need you talking. You thought Kerm was fucking midnight. Like, dark as fucking... It's the darkest nigga in the world. All right, man. Kram is the darkest nigga in the world.

Christ the love. Okay. I like all these for Galadry. I like all of them are... So what are we? do we have for Gladdard? I'm perfectly fine with Tracy for Gladys. I'm happy with Tracy.

I don't know. I'm on Tracy. I love Tracy. Tracy Ellis Ross for Gladys. Yes. Elron is our last pick. This is where I had Morgan Freeman. This is where I had Jamie Fox. Morgan Freeman, Jamie Fox. Who did I have for Elron?

This is where I had Idris. This is where I had Edris for Elrodris. That's good for Idris. Because he could get like, Idris and Tracy too. He's the overprotective dad. Overprotective dad. still very sexy elf

gives you a lot This is the Hugo Weaving character Yes yes I think I think Idris could have that I think he's a better Boromere I think he's a better Boromere I think in this one I think Coleman Domingo works

I like Coleman I like true I like true I think I can settle for Coleman in this I think Coleman Domingo works I do I also think that like You don't want to think about Hugo weaving in that one because there's not a lot of brothers like Hugo Weaving

that they let get their shit off. Yeah. But I think Coleman Domingo works. I'm not mad at Coleman. You think there's... We got to age them up, though, because, I mean, like, to our point, right, if we're going to have Lupita play,

or Lupita play Arwen, then she's... Yeah, but the elves look, the elves are different like that because, like, they kind of have, like, these nebulous ages because they live for hundreds of years. Yeah, I'm not going to lie.

Elon was old in the movies. But maybe I, I was young when I saw him. Yeah, I mean, he looked that old. He looked like older than live time. He was older than lived child. Yeah, he was older than that's all that you needed. I think, I think, I think he could look older than Lepeda.

We'd have to, like, put some make, like, you know what I'm saying? No, he looks older. Do you know who was perfect for Elron? Perfect for Elron. Rest and peace, man. Lance Reddick. Oh. I mean, Lance could have been.

Oh, my God. Lance Reddick. Perfect. God, yes. Like, Elwham is perfect for Elwhan, man. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. God damn.

Like, Lance Reddick was perfect. Lance Lupita on a, man. Him telling off Michael B. Jordan to, like, stay away from her when, like, she's like, you can't be, oh, man. And the sword has been remade. Oh, fuck. Is there anybody else in that Lance mode left? That's tough.

He was one of one. Yeah, man. Oh, no, no. He was. Certainly, certainly, certainly one of one. You know, I just thought of who would have been like Michael K. Williams is Gimley. I think could have been interesting. Michael K. Williams is Gimley.

Yeah. Yeah. This is making me sad. Too bad with this. We lose our brothers too young, man. Chadwick would have been Erick. That's, oh, my God. I literally was like, Chad.

That was a chat. Unspoken, but clearly he would have been Eric. Like, that's the, yeah. We lose these guys. Now you all make me start tearing out, bro. Yeah, man. We think about all of this, brothers. Think about how that came out of nowhere for Lance

and everything that Lance had done over these years. Y'all make me think about every time Keanu talks about him, he's like, that's how you know they was. Yeah, rest of peace of these, man, man, like great performers, like unbelievable guys. And the last couple of years been tough. Tough. I don't hate Coleman Domingo, though.

I think Coleman is like... Coleman can be very good. I think Coleman would roll. And he's got the gravitas that makes us like, oh, snap, he's being very protective of his daughter, I think. Wait, you know who? A lot of sense.

What you're gonna call it? I'm blanking on his name. From what? He's in paid and full. Wood Harris? Can you imagine? And he's just in this movie, too. Y'all, y'all Hayden Wood is one of my favorite actors.

Remember the times he's... Like, come on. What about, what about... I got to... I got a, I got a real curveball for you. Okay. What about Bokeem Woodbine? Look him up.

Bokeen. Oh, yeah. He was in, oh, yeah. He was in a corner of that homecoming. Yes, he was. Oh, I like him. This, nigga. I love, sorry, sorry.

I love this, man. Bocheme Woodbine's cool. Here's the thing. If it's between Bocheme, because he's, like, I love him and everything he's in. And Coleman, I, I think I got to go, Colman. But I think for the look, Bo Keen got a, he got an elfish thing to him.

Yeah, because he's bald. You made bald doesn't make you an elf. Because he's bald as crazy. Bald doesn't make an elf. Can you imagine if black elves were just all bald? Just running around. I think, I think he got an elfish thing to him. I think, I would, if it was between him and Coleman, I would go.

Boquim would buy. You know who we didn't who we didn't cast but we almost did? Would also be a good Alron. What's his face? I'm blanking on the names War Machine. Don Chito. Don Chito. Oh, that's

Err. That's Err. Yeah. Don Cito's Erron. Yeah, that's, come on. Okay. Don, no, no, no, Don Chil's Error. Yeah. Don't, like, it's, that's, that's like, that's, that's, like, that's Erran. Like, Don Cito's Elra. That's easy. That's easy. All right. I can't believe that we did, it took us that long to get there.

It's a long walk. Because we say all these names and then like we have ideas for other days. But that's an easy one idea. So this is our cast. Frodo, Justice Smith, Samwise L'Orel, Gandalf Denzel, Washington, Aragorn is MBJ, Gimley is Winston Duke, Legolas is reggae, Jean-Page, Mary is Kevin Hart, Pippin, Cat Williams, Boramere Edris, Ghalam is Lekeith, Saramon is Delroy, Sauron is Keith David, Bilbo, Clark Peters,

Arwin Lupita, Galadriel, Tracy Ellis Ross, Elron Don Cito. I'm not going to lie. Not only was this a fun pod, I think we crushed this. I'm gonna be on, man.

We crushed this. We fucking did our thing. First of all, bro, we making this movie. We got directors. We got locations. We got the whole thing.

And this is not going to be the last. We're going to recast all of this shit. Come on. All of it. Well, really quick. Really quick. If the audience fucks with this,

what are the movies? that we got to re- like... Star Wars. Star Wars. And by the way, here's the thing. I propose a rule. Okay. The actors that we have in this,

these actors are on hold. When we recast our other shit, we can't go back to these guys. I would say every other. So basically, we can't cast any of these in our Star Wars, but I think they could be freed up. Their schedule by like the third or four.

Because I'm going to tell you all right now. Zendaya can't be in everything. No, she can't be in everything. She can't, but she's a slam dunk layer. In another desert-based property. Here's the one of the guys do Star Wars next, that Luke Skywalker's going to be tough. It's going to be tough.

It's going to be tough. I'm getting Shameek in one of these movies. Shemeak is not your Luke Skywalker. You know, like, you all hate on how talented Shemke is because of, what's her name? But like, but Shamee is like a... I like Shemique. I like Shemke.

Ashton, Ashton, I'm telling you, all of these young actors, man, they got to get their reps. Yes. Ashton might be Luke. But we recasted all of these motherfuckers. This is, because this movie, this is going up. Here's the thing, I don't know if we're making a bill, but I think we could cross like 700. We're breaking. Oh, yeah, we're making the profit.

I think this could make 700 easy. Definitely. Maybe eight, depending upon if everybody brings it. Oh, absolutely. We're putting a lot on the plate of Justice Smith. I think Justice can do it I think Justice as Frodo putting a lot on the play

I believe in the vision of Justice Smith and look I don't think he's I don't think it's a bad I think he's up for it I think he's up for it I think he's up for it I think Barry Jenkins is going to shepherd us

right to where we need to get I will say Justice Smith is the one I'm most worried about he is the one of most Justin is got to worry but here's the thing I gotta trust it you don't pick that movie

that he picks if, you know, that's the one. But here's the thing. This is going to be the movie where black people are like, you know what? Come back home. Exactly.

Go back home. And he was also in this other movie that people didn't watch. It was called, it was on Apple TV Plus. He's really good in this. He was called. Oh, he is good for sure. He's awesome.

Like, it was called, I'll tell you out right now. Apple TV Plus, the movie is called. Is it every day? Sharper. Sharper. And the movie is about con. Any movie about con men and con people is a movie that I love.

Like it's got him, Julianne Moore, John Lithgow, Sebastian Stans in it. Oh, wow. Like it's on Apple TV Plus. It's called Sharper. Because God forbid Apple ever advertised their shows. When I'm telling you, it was really, really, really good. Apple's just throwing money and stuff. Like really good.

Don't do it. It's a lot of twists and turns in it. John. He's a 23. I'm telling you. Like really good. Okay. Sharper.

He was really good. He said so? Sharper. Did we do it? So did we do it? I think we did it. We did it, man. I think we did it.

Man, Hollywood about to be calling it. Do we need to hire on one more producer? Like a story producer. Oh, I know who we need to hire on. Who? Because he can help us out. Bo DeMail. Stop.

We need both. We need both of mail to write the script. Can I ask a question real quick? No. We haven't talked about this. Who's going to write this for us? Can we get Cougler? Could we get your homie?

Who? Coming off the Oscar. Oh, Cord. Cod. Cod. Oh, yeah, we get Cork. Cork. Can Corden write all of my place?

Hold on for a second. Let's see. Let's see real quick. Let's see real quick. Let's see. If I go O for two, on the Academy Award winner, Cored Jefferson.

See. Hello? Okay, so listen. Court, I'm on the podcast right now, just to let you know. we just did an exercise where we recast the Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring with the All Black cast. We just did it.

And we got to the end of the pod. And on the phone is Academy Award winning screenwriter, Court Jefferson. At the end of the pod, we realized that we didn't have a writer for our recast. And the guys here thought that we would procure your services to write this movie. Tracy's in it. Jeffrey writes in it. Jeffrey writes in it. Kat Williams. Kat Williams is in it.

These are great. These are great names. Will you write this movie for us, Cork? Yes. Okay, so we got we got Cored on a three-picture deal, $25,000 per script. Thank you, Corey.

Thank you. I'm in. No, of course. Thank you, brother. I'll talk to you later. All CAA. Bye. That's what I'm talking about.

It's emotion. We make it happen. Yeah, we are making out like bandits on the script feet. Nah, man, we got to pay court two million dollars. We got to pay court $2 million, man. Like, he's going to call it. Don, we're so happy on this pod. This shit going to get made Zavzlaw's like, hey, man.

We might need a tax. Back up the Brinks truck, man. I don't worry. Sell the farm for this, Zaz. That's it. We are done. All right, guys. It is cast.

Talk to us about the movies you want to see us recast with a Black Cat. Star Wars. Star Wars, Dune. We need a Marvel movie up in there. Or should we do all white cast for Black Panther? That's... Instead of doing the Black Heroes of Phantom Draft during February, during Black History Month, just recast.

Okay. Make Black movies white. Fuck it. It's an unwoken man. So we've done the black to be heroes of fandom draft. Three years in a row. Wow. This year,

during the unwokening, during the unwokening, we are going to recast black panther. All white cast. Now, we got to get CR in here. We got to get CR back. Wow. Like all black, all white cast.

White director? White director. All thing. All thing. Also, it can't be shot in Africa, so we got to pick the whitest place. Man, this shit is shot in Scotland, yeah. Scottish Panther. Is it just the cast of Braves?

This shit, we're doing this bitch in Scotland. We're doing this bitch. We got to call Peter Jackson WAA, yeah, man. Peter Jackson's come, yeah, do the whole thing, maybe Australian. But we're doing, we're going to recast it white Panther. And we're doing it serious, man. So you got to take it for real. Ryan Gosling asked

Tachala. That's what people think. That might be two on a nose. Okay. It's more white boys out there. I'll tell you something. We're not going to have some of the problems we had Cassonness.

No, no. It's going to be a million women. It's going to be a million white boys. Oh, yeah, man. Right? For like, I mean, you could go to, like, Margaret Qualley, all this, Sweetie, all of this.

It's a million. It's a million of these motherfuckers. You throw a rock in Hollywood They didn't gave him a movie. So we're not going to have problems with this. No. Honestly, that should just be our, we should do Asia Black Panther.

We should do Latino BlackBee? Y'all don't have range, Latino, Panther? You know. Living Lovina Panther? Like, we can only let go.

No, I'm right. Take his child living. What? What? What? It's still 2024. Trump hasn't been a dog generated yet. It can't be, you know what I'm saying?

It's still some time left. Hey, fuck y'all. Y'all voted for it. So this is America y'all want. We're doing it. That was crazy. We're going to do living Levita Panthers. That was insane.

Leaving Livia. For single Damiya. Every different thing, we're going to recast Black Panther for our people. Oh, my God. Because honestly, honestly, our Latino brothers and sisters, they deserve their own Black Panther. They did. They got Blue Bito. They got Blue Bato.

Okay, cool. Wait, what? They did. They did. Wait, am I wrong? Oh, my God. Wait, am I wrong? Hey, yo, cut the podcast.

Get out of here, man. Let's get out of here, please. On Tuesday, button mash is giving you their most anticipated gains of 2025. On Friday, Minutesion, is rolling out their confidence meeting. 2025 confidence meeting. I'll tell you one thing I have confidence in 2025. What is that, man? White Panther.

Yeah, man. All right. Making a million bucks. Billion bucks. A million bucks. A million bucks. Billion bucks. This time we're going to have a black CIA agent.

Wait, what's the, what's the Wakanda Forever for White? What? What's the Wakanda Forever for White? Boy. No. No. It's the, uh, is it the okay sign?

No. I was going to be, I thought it was going to be like, this is the okay sign. Actually, there is actually a, a real world example of what. But we're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not doing it.

We're not doing it. I'm just saying. Please land this plane. We're not doing it. Midnight Boys and House of our also continue their Star Wars coverage. Our producers are Steve the Arctic Alman. Leah, S-O-B-Zanaris. We got Corey, Johnnethan, Kerma in there,

the black and white cookie. Jomi Adiron, hashtag Nigerian Location Scout. Ooh. On socials. Chuck, take us out. The black cast is done. And we're happy as dead. The unwokening is happening.

Oh God. And we live in La Vida. Man, some of them. Oh, I already Oh, please. Here's my idea. All right. Can we hear me?

Can we get to them? So this is recast. You're recasting everything with a black cast? Yeah. Yeah. Black Panther 3, Timothy Shalameh to Chalame. Yeah! And he runs off!

Yeah! This was the one podcast Timothy Shalame Shalame didn't do this week, by the way. But I'm saying, though, like, you take Timmy, maybe they, like, it's a reverse Moses. Remember, we're in a New America. Hey, New America. Hey, that's the next one. Hey, that's the next one.

I'm fucking with it. Wait, whoa. Really quick, now I'm thinking about it. Timmy is, Timmy's Tchalla. Who's Kilmonger? Ooh. We have, but you know, we have, we have, we have Timmy. We have Timmy be the only white person in the movie.

Oh, wow. So it's the exact same cast. Oh, exact same cast. Everybody back. We just, we just, we just. And we already, you know. He'd be rapping Nikki Minaj, so he's going to be... We might have Timmy with a mustache in this motherfucker.

We might get that, Timmy. We got Liza. What hair cut? Are you sending him? He had already led the black people to victory once. He said. He led... He found the niggas in the desert.

And he led him the victory once. Would you follow Timothy Shalamee to greatness? You're too small. But...