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Episode Date: July 26, 2026

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After midnight. After midnight. After midnight boys. After midnight boys. Okay, we are just sitting down from a walk over from Hall H. The Marvel panel has legitimately just finished. Big news. Headline news from the Marvel panel.

We have a new Black Panther. Who is that Black Panther, Chuck? All right. So Black Panther three, directed. by Ryan Cooleur is releasing on December 15th, 2028. And in I think the biggest moment of the panel, they revealed that to Childa Sun, from Wakanda Forever, is going to become,

what I'm assuming is the new Black Panther. And it is David Johnson of Long Walk fame, Alien Romulus, fucking industry. And I have to say, they fucking nailed the cast. And nailed it. Just let you guys know, everybody that you guys say would be cast, did not get cast. You were wrong. Y'all was like, oh, for five.

I thought it was dancing. I really thought he was about to say, but Johnson makes so much sense. Yeah. That's your question. Like, if you go back and look at that concept art that leaked, is it possible that that was Johnson? No, I don't think it was damson.

Maybe they did a switcheroo, niggaroo. Oh, no, I don't know. This was an inspired casting. By the way, the casting of him as Tachala harkens me back to times when Marvel would really, really get that type of shit right. When they would put people in roles that they seemingly were born to play

with the charisma and also catch somebody that had legitimized themselves as a really good performer, but hadn't hit their creative or celebrity apex yet so you could almost ride them up the wave. I thought it was a perfect cast. It almost reminds me of when they cast Chris Pratt as Starboard, where to me, David Johnson has been, like, honestly, since industry, to me he was one of the best actors on that,

Long Walk, Billy Romulus. Every single time he is in a movie, there's just like a star quality about him, but he has never gotten that role that really puts him front and center. It was almost like when he walked out on Cedars, was like, why the fuck did we not think of this?

Yeah, I mean, he fits the role. He fits, really, and when he was on stage, the humility that he should. show, how he seemed to be kind of taken over by the idea. He was almost emotional and overcome by just the response. Like, people around me were going fucking nuts when they realized it was him. Because he also has the fucking nerd bonaphy. But there's a youth to him, too, that I think is interesting.

Because, again, like, he's playing Tachala's son. It's going to be a young Black Panther. Something we saw, the first time we saw Tichala as Black Panther, he was realized he'd been Black Panther for how many years, but like eight or nine or something. in that universe, we're going to see, like, a young, Tachala get to learn how to be the Black Panther. I'm excited to see that. He has insane dramatic range from all of the things that I've ever seen him in.

Like, there's never a performance that ever, one feels the same, two, ever feels inauthentic. And there's something about him that I am really compelled to see what he's going to choose to do with this character, because there's an infinite amount of things that I think he is capable of, and I'm just excited to see what he chooses to do. Yeah, well, look, I'm not sure what the role will call for. Obviously, it's going to be, so there's so much about this story we don't really know.

Right. Because he was standing right next to Shuri and Mbaku, right? But the reality is they're going to be a lot older in this. Maybe they're not, though. Maybe there's some timeline shenanigans. They would have to do. Oh, there's a very famous Black Panther storyline that came out a few years ago, like, where Black Panther is in space. potentially are we going to get maybe some interstellar type shit

where it's like you go to space and you come back you go to space you come back he went as a kid he comes back and he's kind of like he'd a man he'd a man now oh could be how and how do we feel because i don't think this is going to be shirry not being black panther i think this is we're getting two black panthers or ryan cooghler had said originally the sequel to black Panther was going to kind of be Tachala teaching his son, taking him through this ritual, basically. And I'm just like, maybe he

retrofitted that story where it's like Shuri passing down the Black Panther. Mantle. Mantle. I like that. I thought that was something very interesting that happened in the panel. Ryan Cougar said, if I remember correctly,

that we have a new Black Panther. Yeah. Right. So either he met a new Black Panther as the mantle, a new Black Panther as the King Wakanda, but he went out of his way to let people know that there will be a changing inner guard here. That whereas Shuri is Black Panther now, that when you say that, you could say, hey, we're introducing a new Chachala.

Hey, there's a new character. Come out and let the audience know. He goes, there's a new Black Panther. So it seems like they're trying to get directly back into the character of Chachala as the monarch of Wakanda. But also, I feel like Googler is too smart. of the storyteller where I don't think it's going to be at the cost of Shari. Yeah.

Where I do think that this is the smartest way to recast Tichala, where it's like you were still honoring what Chadwick Bozeman did with the character, which are essentially being like, brought this up, Black Panther is Tachala, that character. And to me, this is the smoothest way where they can kind of have it both ways. It has to be at the cost of her to some degree. What I mean? I mean, I don't think, I don't think there, it's not, is it a demotion? What I mean?

No, there's no demotion. I don't think, yeah, it's not like that. Hey, once you were the only black panthers, there's another black panther. Look, I mean, okay, like, they're not going to be two black panthers. It's going to be, they could be two black panthers,

but the reality is this, uh, Batman gets his back crack. Asriel becomes Batman. For a while, Azrael is Batman. Asriel is running around Gotham killing people. Okay, that's not a good thing.

So, like, for, like, for a while, Israel is Batman. Right. Then Batman comes back. And now Bruce Wayne is Batman again. It's happened before. It's not a demotion. Like, it's, it's way of it.

Wait, so you're saying, Shriy is, keeping the seat warm. Sure, Shrews out there. Just like, you guys. Hello, Sachi, Saj. It's not Sajy at all. You guys, there were some things that happened that, like, necessitated the changing of that story. So she becomes Black Panther. She's become Black Panther in the comic book before.

It's comic there's, like, a press, comic president for that. But like, it always snaps back to Charlestowness. Yeah. Yeah, like for as long as that's, it's not a demotion. I think it's, it's, they're probably telling a different story and then everybody kind of goes back to doing what they do in Wakanda as far as what their utility calls for. But also like Ryan Coogler, I mean, this is his world.

He knows these characters. He knows this story. If anybody's going to, I don't want to say demote, but if anybody's going to like, hey, shuri, it's now, Tachala's time to be Black Panther. He's going to handle that with the deft hand. It's going to be. We haven't been talking about Mbaku.

Mbakuu. Mbaku right now is the king of Wakanda. Exactly. Correct. This thing about the, So what I'm saying is, yeah, like, Tachala is coming back, and it seems as if they're sitting Tachala up to be both Black Panther and the rule of the country.

I also don't want to skip over a big part. It's such a flex that Ryan Kuhler is filming this in large format. Like he brought out a piece of film. He showed everybody. And I was like, hey, you win an Oscar. I feel like he dropped his nuts. And he's like, no, no, I'm the next. I'm the next novel.

You think, you think, you think. Kavike was like, hey, man, you can do this in an infinity vision. That would be really cool. He came and dropped his auction on table. He said, I need the mic-mash. You can do whatever he wants. I need all the more than that. Ryan Coogler proved that he can go somewhere for six weeks to two months,

write a script, cast the movie, make the movie, turn an enormous profit, and go win at the Academy Awards. Yeah. Like, he proved he can do whatever he wants. Now, all of Black Panther, obviously, the second biggest story from the Marvel Hall. Actually, you know what? Before we even get to Doomsday, we'll finish with that. Let's talk about, we'll finish with Dooms Day.

There's a new movie on the schedule. After long rumors that this actor was going to play, Ghost Rider, it's finally come true. Ryan Gosling is Ghost Rider, which is amazing. Right. We also got a director announcement where Sean Levy. What? I knew you was going to do this. I knew you was going to do this.

Please continue. Y'all niggins like Sean leaving? It's not about whether we like them or not. And this is a funny thing. It's true. No, it's true. It's not about where we look. The people that are working with them like.

Yes. So that's probably the thing. If they would have said Benicio del Toro's ghost writer, would have been like, oh shit. I guess. Not Benicio del Toro. Gilma del Toro. If they would have said Benicio del Toro doing it. That would have been probably.

Wow. Big first at that bat. But if they would have said like Gilmo del Toro ghost rider, it would have been like, oh, Oh, fuck. Right. Sean Levy's Ghost Rider is, okay? No, no, no. I'm not trying to be a, like, here's the thing.

I think Sean, John Levy does something that a lot of these studios love, which is like, he's great with actors, the people that work with him, like Ryan Reynolds, love him. He's just to get a film that looks good on screen, on budget, on time, which is like everything in this industry. I just, from his past work, I'm trying to see the ghost writer. That's the nicest. I'm trying to see the vision. There's no hard edge to him as a director that I've seen where he pulls that off.

It'll be fun for sure. Unless you consider the Deadpool stuff edgy just because it's so violent. Yeah. Yeah. So here's the thing. And Faggy mentioned this. He was like, saw Starfighter, loved it. If they're giving him Ghost Rider, I imagine Disney likes what they got in Starfighter.

Right. They might just be fucking lying again. They're no to do that. Do you think they brought the Rousseau back because they loved the Greyman? Well, no, but they also, they loved endgame Infinity. I think Charlie Lee knows how to work in the system. I think he knows how to work in the MCU system, Star Wars system. You call it in Brock Purdy?

Every quarterback is a system quarterback. Every single one. There's no such thing as a quarterback that's not a system quarterback to me. We'll do that on the NFL. Men and the Boys live. So, but that announcement was the big surprise at the con. Right. That, what, Black Panther was.

A new Black Panther, yeah. New Black Panther was sort of a surprise, but some of the other surprises that we were maybe expecting or hoping to get, we didn't get them. We'll get to that later. Would you say that did the ghost writer reveal, feel impactful? Because, like, when I was on Twitter, like, I think a couple days ago, people were just like,

oh, yeah, Ryan Gossens getting announced this ghost ride. I'm like, y'all nigs have been saying this for like a decade plus. I didn't believe it. And then when it happened, it was almost like, yeah, that makes sense. Like, it just did it. Did it feel like the internet kind of, did this for us, like three years ago, and then we're kind of just muted by the response of it now?

I think Ryan Gosling is on such a heater that he kind of wrote this into game. Where it's like, I don't think Ghost Rider was at the top of Fige's list, but when you have someone that's that hot and Ryan Gosling loved this character, it's like, hey, we're going to try again. Well, I mean, look, if he wants to play the character and you can build something around it that's awesome and you have the buy-in of all of these people, that's like 70% of getting the movie made, right?

Yeah. 70% of the movie getting the movie made is attaching that type of star to it that brings that type of star infrastructure along with the film. So if you already have that, you normally kind of like bend to that. It's not that much different

than the Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool situation except for the fact that Ryan Reynolds was not on a heater when Deadpool was happening. However, that movie probably doesn't get made unless he has a very significant and direct passion for it. You probably don't make that movie at that time.

So with this one, they announced it. What you know is that the complete star-making effort of Ryan Gosling will be involved in the movie that brings an audience that's interested in him from Ken, from Project Hill Mary, from all of these films. And if Starfighter goes crazy, which, by the way, the only thing that makes me think that maybe Kevin Feig really actually did see Starfighter and loved it is because they're going to have this movie basically coming out. off that film. So they're probably expecting that to be a big deal and continue his winning show. And I also will say Ryan says something very interesting

where he was basically saying while they were making Starfighter, he was pitching his vision to Sean about what he wanted from a ghostwriter film. And that makes me think that like, oh, you're at a point in your career, similar to Tom Holland, where you can call the shots on this movie

more than other actors could. Where I'm like, Ryan, it seems like Ryan Gosling had a story he wanted to tell, F. F. F. F.ieg is kind of like wrapping the world around him where we have not seen that a lot in the MCU. Yeah, well, I mean, they're going to do what the MCU want to do

at the end of the day. They're going to play within the system. Like, you dash what you, you have to do that. So he probably has a story that he wants to tell. What that actually reminds me of is of what happened on Fruitvale Station. Fruitvale Station, they made that movie and then like Ryan,

uh, Ryan Cougar and Michael B. Jordan go, hey, there's this crazy. idea that we have for the, at first it was the grandson of Apollo Creed, like being in the movie. And then Creed comes from that, and that sets the table for it. And those two guys are on the same accord. They're going to play with it. They're going to color within the lines of Marvel. They're not going to just let Ryan Gosson go do whatever he wants to do because it's too big of it's, it's too much money. We're not going to get a blade situation? I mean, no. I mean, look. I don't think Sean Levy would make a blade situation happen.

I think Sean Levy is going to... I don't actually know what they're going to do. I don't know that much about... I have no fucking clue. You like the... You like the nigga of cage joints? Yeah, the first one. The first one.

Yeah, the first one was cool. But I don't know... Can't co-sign the second one. Like, what run of Ghost Rider fits in with this world? Right. Does Ghost Rider show up in secret? I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what it's... That's what's exciting to me about it. No nothing. You know nothing. But also, it is... We are getting to a point where... Marvel is like, their bench is stronger. After this, I was just like, oh, you got Ryan Gosling involved.

You got Dave Johnson involved. You have actors where I'm like, okay, we're getting people in these films again where I'm like, not only can I see you in this role, I want to see Johnson playing off Holland. And I want to see Holland playing off Gosling. I'm like, okay, there is, I see the path. There's an infrastructure here. All right. So let's do, before we get into the, to the meat, pause. Like, can we talk about it?

Now, dog, the worst part of the panel, end game encore. I'm like, all right. That to me was a little like, it seems like that is a commercial for, for Infinity Vision. Maybe. I disagree. I'm not that cynical. I'm not that cynical. It was a cynical play to me.

What's cynical about it? I think that they do realize that Doomsday does, it's the thing that we talked about on the Doomsday trailer where we kind of walked away from that conversation being like, oh, it's not capturing the same emotion as the last Avengers film. And I do, it's a savvy move. Like, I would make the same move. Like, it's obvious. You release Avengers Endgame, something that we all thought was such a great achievement

and made us feel something about the Avengers. And then you kind of like, okay, shit, like, I'm feeling really good. And then people give doomsday more of a chance. But it just seemed like, even when they were vigilant, I was just like, all right, nobody gives a fuck about Infinity Vision. You know this is not obvious. It's not about Infinity Vision, though. going to be some new footage, right?

And it's going to lead us directly into Doomsday. So we're going to be able to, like, see stuff that either, like, adds to the movie of Endgame or stuff that leads directly into Doomsday. I'm cool with that. That works for me? Just a couple of things. Just, number one, In-game is, was for a time the highest-grossed movie of all time. I think there was an Avatar re-release.

I don't know if Avatar overtook it. But isn't it a different film that overtook it? Which film took it? Was it not Avatar? Not water? Wait, maybe. But I'm not sure. But so, you know, you release the movie, you drum up a little bit more cash.

You want to have the biggest movie of all time. I get it. From this is right. It makes sense. That's the political part. But I also think, and there hasn't been an Avengers movie in seven years. Like, there hasn't been one in seven years. And so there was one in 2012.

And then they bust it back in 2014. and then they came back, so it's 2015, right? And they came back in 2018, 2018, and then 2019. So they weren't taking that much time. And even in between then, you could argue that Civil War is kind of an Avengers movie because they have like a bunch of different Avengers in it. So it's been a long time since all these characters have been on screen together. I think lubing people's, like, they're not just their excitement,

but just getting them back in the mode of watching the Avengers on the big screen with new, I think it's actually a smart play. It's definitely a business play Sure But I think But I still can't imagine Like seeing all of this I'm just like

This is still going up against Dune And I still can't believe That they didn't move off that date And they sold us Infinity Vision Which is literally nothing And it's like I'm like Okay you're teeing up everything

To make this as successful as possible But you don't move off the date Where the one other Winter Blockbuster could absolutely I think Dumez day is still It's not gonna have a problem Like, like, Doom's, like, Dune is going to probably be the better movie. I do think, especially after the footage we saw, I'm like, well, the footage we saw, fellas, I mean, we'll talk.

Before we get to this, just I say one thing. You realize that these two movies have different audiences, like they have different quadrant makeups. Like, Avengers is a true four quadrant movie. Right. Like, Dune is, and we've talked about this a lot, but we haven't really gone into it. Dune is an elevated, like high fantasy, all-rated, violent, aggressive movie where billions of people are going to die. There's just going to be different audiences for the movie. I would have thought earlier that they just wouldn't want the logjam there, but there's not a lot of reason for Marvel to move off the day.

I mean, but considering everything that happened with Barbenheimer, everything that's happened. We're going to the movies twice. Yeah. We're going to live in the room today. It was going crazy. People lined up since Thursday. see this stuff. And there's no way that, like, I don't think, like, if the movie's good,

movies bad, whatever, we was going to make all the money. This movie's going to make all the money. And by the way, not only is going to make all the money, I would like to tell you guys that we had a fantastic panel. We had our own panel at Comic Con today. We were Hall R.

Hall Ringiverse. Okay. We were Hall R. Hall Midnight Boys. We had our own thing. We were Kevin Feigey. Okay. We were up there doing our thing. And at that panel, I said that I believed in Avengers Doomsday. You did. And I did not think that all of the best things were in the trailer and that they were holding stuff back from the trailer. And that in December, I thought you guys would have your worlds,

your worlds rocked and that I would come back and be willing to listen to all of the people who were wrong. They showed a different trailer in the movie on the panel. And the trailer was fucking phenomenal. Fantastic. They should have, they really should have given us stuff. No, no, I like the trailer.

It was, brother. It was way better than the trailer. It was incredibly good. I'm honestly, their judgment over there is I'm just like, y'all didn't exactly. Because all the stuff

we complained about was, where's the emotion, where is the, like, where's the heart of the story? Right, how do these characters connected? Where do we see that in this trailer?

It wasn't there. And this one, who have Vanessa Kirby as Invisible Woman telling all the other Avengers, yo, Dr. Doom, man, we were beefling him forever, man. He was cold. He was calculating. He was a different person. I don't know who this dude is. He's always been the smartest man in the room, but now he's broken.

Yeah. And then there's a scene with Petro Bascow as Mr. Fantastic, yelling at Doom, like, did you do this? And I'm like, yo, we finally get to see Dr. Doom and Mr. Fantastic, the two guys who are, like, I don't know if they got the biggest beef in comics, but legitimately- All without a doubt, the biggest beat for Marvel. Biggest beat for Marvel.

Yeah. Finally sharing a screen in this. And I'm like, yo, where was this in the first one? Yeah. This should have been the traitor to lead off. And I think it was a misstep not putting Doom in Fantastic Four first steps? Because it was like the movie Doom was right next to the Fantastic Four. The energy.

It shifts. He is in the movies in the post-credit scene. But you know what he means. But maybe, maybe. I think what they wanted to stay away from, and I'm really being serious. with this. They want to stay away from any direct comparisons to the fantastic movies for movies that came out before.

And a lot of times these movies nowadays, although James Gunn didn't do this, they try to not like go to the well with the classic villain first. A lot of movies subvert that, right? Like remember Batman Begins comes out, it's Rajagul, Roger Agu, Joker comes in the second one.

And also by this point, you had already had them pivoting to Doom, which means that they had a plan for or, concepts of a plan for how they were... 13% of a plan. Yeah, 13% of a plan. How they're going to deploy Zoom.

I will tell you this. There's something else that we did not talk about that was in that trailer. The same thing you saw, the confrontation that comes in the movie between Doom and Thor, we see that. We see that, that make... Number one, we see Doom's entrance to that, which when Duke, the force in which Doom lands and commands the screen... He was moving by Superman and Madness Kill. I was like, I was like, I'll never see you. Like, yes.

Were you ever ever? Never ever. Then you see, you see Doom like legitimately block the, you saw this, block Stormbreaker, shoe door with like one move of his hand, and then raise a group of sentinels. Like zombie sentinels. Like raise a group of sentinels out of the ground. So that is Doom.

That is the entire character, which is what this trailer gave you. It gave you the motivations and origins of the character in terms of the parts of the character that's psychologically broken. Then it gave you the tech of the character. Then it gave you the sorcery of doom. You got a sense of just what kind of goddess is by watching this.

And to me, I mean, you guys were right. It was a better trailer for sure. By far. Like it sold the movie. It was the thing I was like, oh, in the first trailer we got, they give you a little bit of taste. of like how powerful Doom is. But like even when they were all on,

Kevin Feiky was asking questions that fans have provided. And he asked a question, do you think Doom is more powerful than Thanos? And this trailer was the one where they're selling you, Doom is going to be just as big of a threat. And they're showing you to your point, the magic, the science, everything that it's like,

okay, yeah, this is a guy who can take down Thor with one hand. There's also the line, like in the trailer we see like all the X-Man, all the Avengers, and all that. And Doom says, all of you have lived stolen lives and now you must give them back. And I'm like, yo,

he's cooking. Like, we finally have a reason. We also saw Loki in the trailer. Right. We didn't see Loki in the, I don't think we saw Loki in the first. He was in the first one. He was in it.

Yeah. But it's, but now it seems like to your point, this is going to be a story about all of these branch timelines. And I think this also sells like, okay, this is why Captain America is here.

Right. Like, we kind of could intellectualize why Captain America was here, but it seems like Doom is coming back to be like, to, honestly, to finish with the TVA. My day kicks off with a refreshing Celsius energy drink. Pre-K. drop off. Then straight to the gin.

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They're going to kill it. It's possible. I'll tell you why. Chris Evans was out on that stage as not a part of this entire thing. Chris Evans was out there. This was the Robert Donnie Jr. show. And then it parts the Paul Rudd show. They go to Paul Rudd.

He gets his little time of shine. with Ryan Reynolds. Riffs with Ryan Reynolds. Wait, can we like, because they weren't there, like, the listeners weren't there. So if we set the stage, basically there was an X-Men side, an Avengers side. I get not the most important characters, but it was Robert Downey Jr. The principal cast that we know is there. Steve, Steve Rogers on stage.

Pedro Pascal. Right. And Haley Atwell. Which was also surprising. And it seemed like a very interesting place to put those characters. I do agree with you. I'm like, Captain America might not be in that much of this movie, but they still gave him prominent bill.

So something's going to happen. On the stage? No, they didn't. Well, he didn't say anything. So, so, like, on the stage, they gave him, like, they gave all of those guys a thing, right? Remember, in the past, and I could be wrong, but in the past, this entire universe was oriented around,

Captain America and Iron Man. Iron Man first, Captain America second, 1A, 1B, the whole deal. This time, it felt different. This time, it felt different. It felt like he was out there. Maybe they were hiding the ball a little bit. He was out there.

He was like, Chris Evans, hey, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. They didn't even call him because Kevin Foggy made sure when he was announcing everybody pointed to Anthony Mackey and he said, Captain America. Right. He did not call. Don't miss it up. There's a version of this movie.

that Captain America has started this branch timeline. And this branch timeline is one of the reasons why all these incursions are happening. And we watch Cap get killed or we watch Cap's entire timeline get killed, which is Cap, Haley Atwell, and his son. We watch all of them die. They're not in the movie very much. And the cap, the other cap that we saw was some kind of variant or the hydro cap or whatever the fuck that they're saying. and that Chris Evans is back in this movie,

but not nearly in the way that Captain America would have been back. And maybe he has a more prominent role in the film after this. Wait, so are you... Is there a world where this Steve Rogers, they do another subversion where not only is RDJ evil, but Captain America might be evil. Like, Mike...

Well, would that make sense? Because he has... He can still... He can still wheel me on here, But I mean, but some people were saying that there's this comic precedent for Hydra Cap being able to pick up. And do you think they're trying to kind of like? I don't know. I was, this entire Marvel panel, we should say, was once again, centered around Robert Downey Jr.

We all got Doom masks, right? And Doom clothes. We all got this. It's Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom first. another thing about the two trailers is that when we the first trailer that we got was our heroes forward let's be honest nobody's really into it they're in the middle of a rebuild

yeah right so like and so it was heroes for this one was doomed for it and it worked a little bit better yeah and so I don't know the kind of roles I don't know it'll be interesting to see who plays like who's the star lord of this movie in terms of infinity war who's the spider man like other characters that are less central to the overall narrative, but that, like, really bring emotional weight to the film.

It'll be interesting to see which characters on that stage are, like, are able to shine in this movie? Are we get... What version of Haley Atwell are we getting? Are we getting, like, Captain fucking Britain? Are we getting fucking... If they make what-if canon to the larger MCU universe, that might be tough for something.

I mean, we've already got it in the Illuminati. I guess that is true. Now, I think we'll probably get, like, the peggy we saw at the end of endgame, right? I just happy to live with Steve Rogers, happy not doing any superhero stuff together. And then God knows what happens after the incursions. Yeah.

It was interesting to see that entire group of actors together. They didn't look that old. All right. Kelsey's grammar looked good. That's good. Everybody got a little do-do-do-do-do. Everybody got a little. I was around.

They made the same faces from 2000. I was there, man. We were there. We all saw that. They made the same faces, bro. Their faces didn't change, bro. I'm not going to lie, there was, I felt so bad. When the Avengers side and the X-Men side popped up, I was like, damn, tough.

I was like, come on way. This is not the feeling. Because I was like, y'all not Steve Rogers. Y'all not fucking Iron Man. We got to let that go at some point, man. We, it's the 2018 Lakers, bruh. He gets Banner Ingraham out there. It's a loneso ball out there, man.

It is what it is. You just got a hoop and love them for who they are. We can't expect them to like, all right, somebody going to turn into bronze. No, dog. This is what we got. Let's rock with it. Why don't we get any Hemsworth? Extraction.

Interesting. Oh, extraction. I think they're a big extraction tree. Because Sam Hargreaves, who did the first two, I imagine, the first two. He also directed, was it Matchbox, the Movie? Oh, yeah. And he wasn't there for that panel because he's working on the project. So that's why I think it was.

So I say this, before we move away from Marvel, look, you said it earlier, Jomi. Like, this was the ticket of the con. Oh, my God. Can we just say, bro, to get into this panel was its own fucking honest. We didn't know if we were doing this podcast today. Let's not even hold you. We couldn't find seats.

Shout out, A. Y'all are not watching this. Shout out to all the ushers. my beautiful wife out there, I love you, to help me get a seat. You know what I'm saying? We all, it was like, we went up, just the way that it worked is for us to get into the panel,

we had to, the panel started at 5.30, maybe. It really started at 6. We had to go to the Apple panel that started at 2 and just stay all the way through, right? So, but here's the issue, just so you guys know. We had press credentials to the Apple panel,

which means we had, assigned seats. The Primo up front, but they kick you out of them joints at the end. But they make you move. Because you quickly learn about wrangling people at Comic-Con. Right.

After the panel is over, there's a new panel and those people have different press credentials to that panel. The general admission seats, though, they don't make you move. So you have to get one of those. So we are there, right? We go up to the press.

We see Mallory and them. We're like, we got to walk around until we find seats. No, there was a moment where... All six of us. All six of us didn't have seats and we was looking at Madla Joe. We were about to go. Yeah.

And then we got the text. Shout out the men boys. They like, we got seats and I'm like, all right. Okay. And then I gave us hope because Stephen and Jomi got seats. But even with that though, once Steve and Jomi got seats, I was like, we good. Because they come back and just tell us everything that happened. No.

No. No. No. No. We were the last one. Like, yo, Charles. Not, I was the last one on the ball.

I was like, me and Charles did paper rock scissors. Yeah. We did because I was like, there's one seat next to us. And me and Charles, Charles was like, you take it. I was like, no.

I was like, let's do paper, scissors. And so we did, boom, rock paper scissors, boom, I got it. And then Charles got one. And then, boom, we were set. But we had to stay there.

We had to sit. Three hours. There were people. Had been in there. 30 at, like. They were sleeping in the. their seats. Like they were people had sleeping back. Yeah. Yeah. So

the excitement and the scope and the scale of what Marvel does, particularly at Comic-Con, can still not be matched. Yeah. No. Like it's a home game whenever Marvel is here. They don't have to come every year. They don't have to have the conversation

every year. But what, which tells me these are the nerves, so this is not the film going public necessarily that we're speaking to. the vibe in that room if you have been in there you would think that it was 27

yeah they haven't lost the nerds that was never a problem the nerds are still they still got them they still got what I wonder is will will that juice like translate to the world like I think everybody's going to be excited about Johnson being

being the new Black Panther I think the Ryan Gosling shit people love ghostwriter they love Ryan Gosling they got to drop it at Doomsday trailing? Oh, I know that. I mean, do you think it's coming soon? That's an interesting question. I mean, we'll definitely be seeing something like that.

They made it seem like it was not dropping anytime soon. They were very much. I don't know if it's going to be, I don't know if it's going to be super soon because they're not going to have to drop it. Because next week, Spider-Man is going to go insane. All right. Before we, we have to talk, they gave us a sneak peek dog. That Spider-Man shit was great. It looked.

It looked. Fantastic. The action was incredible. The chemistry between Bernthal and Holland. Holland, like, did he, like, put some bass in his voice and just, like, do it like an Andrew Gophier impression or something? Like, he's got this out. Hey, if we're talking about what we said at the panel, I said Tom Holland, we're with 2026,

because coming after the Odyssey, he going to drop his nuts to Spider-Man. He was moving a little different. He was. And by the way, that's the first thing that we saw. Well, actually, maybe not. Well, I think the first footage this show. First footage. So Bernthal walks out, and he's running.

representing Spider-Man brand new day. Yeah. And they dropped the footage. The footage was of a battle between, and Figey said this, and I was thinking it. It was a battle between the Punisher, the Hulk, and Spider-Man. And he said, wow, a battle between the Punisher, the Hulk, and Spider-Man, I never thought I would see that. Now, he probably didn't think he would see that because of Universal and all kinds of rights issues. Those are two characters right there.

Really, three different characters that were, like, different places that maybe you didn't know you could get them together. It's Netflix and it's universal. Right. All together. So he's talking about that. But just the footage itself. There's a shot there. I'm not going to spoil it for you guys because you guys going to see the movie next week.

The slow-mo one. The way Spider-Man was moving in this, the way they shot the action, it was different, bro. Like, Destin going for it. It's like going nuts. And also a great use of the Punisher, which is a character that has a character that has, existed in such brutality in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a brutality that he can't really exist in, Inspireman Brand New Day,

so you always wondered tonally how it would translate. It's like they nailed it. But also, weirdly, it's the first time, and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, where we see the comic book nature of, like, the Punisher not going up against, like, fucking bobsters and other gangsters,

it's like him against the Hulk. And I was like, oh, shit, this is fucking fine. Like, that nigga not going to do nothing. That's what I was like. I was like, dude. You're trying to nerfed us out of it. But that's like the audacity of the character. Yeah.

The audacity of the character is that, like, he truly is not afraid of anything. He was getting his shit off. He's a little afraid of the Hulk. He was rational. But when he came time to do what it was time to do, he was in the Hulk face. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to, again, we don't want to spoil it. But the first part of the scene where he's there.

He's scared, but he's not going, you're not going to front. I'm excited, man. Um, okay. So I think that Marvel had a successful Paul H. experience. There was no X-Men. There was no Adam Driver. There was no, Denzel Washington was no one to be on.

I thought we were going to get that. I thought they would go with David Johnson would be like, oh, snap. Then Raku would be like, I got one more thing. And, but that never happened. I will say, because the way they ended the panel, at first we didn't get Black Panther and I was about to come on here and be like, hey, yo. That was weak.

I waited here for five fucking hours. And I was just like, okay, they know how to make a show. That was the right place to end it. Because it was just, I don't know how y'all felt. When they were just like, it's over. Everybody right was like,

ass it. It's like, all right, guys. It's like, a ceremony. It's no blackout lights, no nothing. Done. And then it was like, Kevin Smith's coming. That's the only time.

Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith closed that out of every single year. But, but no. So some of those things, Charles, you're big on the, we got to get into the mutants thing. They still slow rolling it. You did say earlier at the panel, which was right, that maybe it might have been Jomey that they would not step on the Sadie Sink reveal and go too much into X-Men because brand new day is coming out.

And if she's Gene Gray, it kind of spoils things. So, I mean, why do you think Marvel is still? Is that something for next year's Comic-Con, the music? I think Marvel had a successful panel. I do. Like, it's just like they revealed enough, they showed enough, and the footage that they showed, uh,

showed me that I was like, okay, you guys, you have a hand on the wheel. If I'm being real, I don't think it's just the satisink of it all. Kevin Fagie has been kind of clear. He's just like,

a lot of the contracts aren't signed yet. So I think they might still be working on getting certain actors in place. Phyllis, they're still D-20. That's probably what they're going to do. They could be, yeah. There's a lot of stuff for D-20.

Because Spider-Man will already be out. Yeah. And it's like if you're Disney, D-23 is way more important to you as a company than San Diego Comic-Con. And like, sitting with the fans, it was interesting talking to them. A couple of people, I was like, yo, would you like to see the reveal that Sadie Sink is Gene Gray? And they were just like, yeah, but like, I don't want anything to, like, ruin Spider-Man brand-new day. So I was, like, sitting next to people where it's not our job. job to do this where it's like we get spoiled all the time.

I was like, okay, they're smarter enough to realize that an X-Men reveal would have stepped on Spider-Man. That's all people would have taken the heat away. Yeah. Look, I think that there was a way that they could have done it. But at the same time, knowing that they're still D-23, I think you guys are right, that that's what they're going to do. I think for us is interesting because we're going to have to go and like stand in line for

D-23, I think, like, next Thursday. In order to get in that. Actually, you know what? We never have a problem with D-20. It's actually well-run. They hook us up. They hook us up. Nah, they treat us like niggies as, Andy O'Connor.

I'm telling you, bro. They put us in a color seat. Bro, let me tell you something. Hey, bro, let me tell you something. Bro, I got to be rude. I got to hear of, bro. Listen, listen, this has been, like, this has been such a humbling experience for me.

Because I'll tell you why. You were so dejected coming out of that hall age. These guys know me. Like, I get love when I go places. Right. We was in the line last night. And I'm talking about everybody. We got the ladies with us.

The beautiful Kalika is here. The beautiful Lauren is here. We got our ladies with us. And we in the dirt and the audience. We was at Margarita. I'm not going to show. She not used to see me this way. In LA it's some, oh, your table is right here,

Miss Olick. Right. That doesn't bring out in San Diego streets. But like we align and there's people coming up to us And they're like, let's people coming up to me and they're going, God damn, I would expect you guys with me. I'm like, hey, bro, yeah, come on, man.

But we did match to score invites to the blurred boozy party tonight, which we're probably missing right now because it's late. But yeah, so we, I'm motivated. I'm working from this moment all the way till next year. We will be, I'm not going to wait to the end.

I'm not even talking about parties. We will be better situated at Comic Con next year. The ringer staff, they are the ones that made Comic-Con what it was for us. Yeah, because we had this amazing room. We had a panel chock full of people. Oh, my gosh. We had things taken care of. Alea was ordering weird food for us to eat, took us to a great weird restaurant.

It was not weird. It was not weird. It was good. We had, like the ringer staff. Helling it. Alleya. Arjuna. Arjuna.

They're the ones that took care of us. Comic-Con attempted to show us. their ass. But at least next year, we're going to see the nice part of their ass. Because next year, we're just going to incrementally do a little bit better and like take over the con. All right. So rapid fire because we got to get, we got to get our sisters in here. Started with you, Van. Favorite part of the con. It's lanterns. So before, so yesterday, we went to the lanterns, to the lanterns one. And what I love is like you guys being whipped into positivity because you guys are so down on everything now. You got your asses kicked.

by positivity because everything that you guys saw even some of that Apple shit was dope Yeah they're almost convinced me to watch

Silo I was dope you guys got your asses kicked with positivity because we did a podcast and my therapist said that I should never do I told you so again

I'm not doing that I told you so I'm just reminded we did a podcast and you guys were talking about the lanterns you didn't like the lanterns trailer lanterns lanterns lanterns We still need to see the show

No one. Okay, we need to see the show. The shit that we got in Lanterns, was it fire? It was fine. I don't want to hear good. It was fire. Come on, man, don't lie. Don't lie.

Don't lie. Don't lie. This is glazing. This is glazing. This is crazy. It was gazed. It was gazed. It was gas.

It was fire. You're bouncing on San Diego. That second trailer we got from Lantern was fire. It's the same thing that happened. I was dig right Comic Con. I would dig right Comic Con about the Battle Cat. Popcorn bucket that guy. It's all with you.

It's not AMC for that popcorn. It's the same. We added two members to our family. Battlecat and Yoshi. Battlecat and Yoshi. That's lovely. That's what I would do. But I'm just talking about, okay, since Charles is bullshitting.

He's line. He's lying. I said it was good. What are you going to walk me? No, no. It wasn't good. No. They showed like five different clips.

They showed a lot of lanterns. A lot of footage. Not only were they five for five. They was up there. Fucking flexing. They showed us, like, they showed an interrogation scene. I'm not going to ruin it.

It was fine. Between Hal Jordan and an alien. It was fire. Which was as awesome of a scene as I've seen on television in a while. It's a fucking great scene. Then they showed us Hal Jordan and John Stewart in a fight. They showed us Hal Jordan and John Stewart, an extended scene of the car accident thing.

Everything that they gave us. Plus the trailer. Plus the Shrew. Are these companies getting a little too cute with the trailers? Because they'll be showing the footage and I'm like, why did y'all fucking release the story-ass trailer? It's the same thing we're talking about with Avengers Doomsday that we're talking about with Lanterns,

where you see the first trailer and you're like, even if you know they're hiding the football, you're like, man, I know y'all got some stuff back there. Why don't you just like show it to us? It's cool. They didn't show anything crazy in lanterns that was going to ruin the plot. Can't tell you. It was just way better footage.

Can you got something? I want you guys to hear me right now because I'm being serious. They're doing it on purpose. Do you know why? They know that in this attention economy, that there is absolutely zero difference. For them, zero difference in conversation that is positive and conversation that is negative.

They won't get to the trailer that you guys like. But at first, what they need to do is just get something out there that puts it in the algorithm. And this is very cynical that they do. that, but it's happening so much. Yeah. It's happening so much that people are doing this and they know there's no fucking way. There's a trailer that they put in the lanterns panel.

There's just no way. There's no way. It's totally like, let's imagine that everything that you said about the first lanterns trailer. Exactly. Exactly. When we were like, where's all the space? Where's all the lanterning? Where's all the detectiving?

Where's the interaction between John and how? Where's all this stuff? It's just, it seems like there's true detective. and they're going on in mystery, sure, whatever. But what about the stuff that makes the Green Lantern special? What's the stuff that we love about the Green Lanterns? And they're like, we're not showing you in the first trailer. And the second trailer, we're giving you all of it.

They're flying. They're using the rings. The Manhunters are the villains. I'm like, yo, where was this six months ago? We've been talking crazy. I'm so excited for this show. You have no idea that trailer that they showed on Friday. I don't say, Chad of My Life.

That's a little extreme. I mean, you know me, I never like to do hyperbole on here. That was exceptional, brother. I do just have to say, I've never seen Vans' vision of the world more because we've been to a lot of panels. I'd have seen one black person up there with an American accent. Oh, oh, we can't bro. I was like, this is crazy.

Nah, that's what happened. I mean, I was like, black. Go. The black panel movie was, go, go, go, go, go, go. It's dumb. The second they said this is. It's not even David Johnson. Because Aaron Pierre got up there and I forgot.

I forgot. I forgot. He was like, bro. And I was like, shit. I was like, oh. You know why we should have remembered. We should have remembered because he was up there in the green Avericks back. And that's something that right.

Why? From America would never do. What are you doing that? And look, that's not me. I fuck with Aaron Pierre. I watch, I watch, hey, do I not watch Rebel Ridge all the time? I watch Rebel Ridge all the time. I fuck him.

But when you see him in the green Avericks? You know that that that's. That nigger is not from Miami. Because that's not going to get, that's not, he's not from. They're not doing that. Like, unless he's in the dip set or let's he 55 years. They're not doing that anymore. And by the way, and that's not.

And that's not. He's one person in the crew was like, all right. What stylist gave him that? No, but he had to be. Hold on. By this day and darkish night. Hold on. Now, he looked great.

Okay. Okay. I mean, it's there of Pierre. Yeah, he can't really mess that up. He looked. He looked great. The Averashack. It's, it's tough.

It's a tough. It's a tough situation. It's tough. But like... A lantern seems like it's going to be really, really excited. And like, honestly, there was a part when Nathan Phillyan came out. I'm still waiting to see how Guy Gardner exists in this world, but they didn't shy away from it. The only other thing I want to say about the lanterns panel is that James Gunn wasn't there because he's shooting a man tomorrow.

That's not why James Gunn wasn't there. Why wasn't James Gunn't there? James Gunn wasn't there because he's shooting man at tomorrow but he could have made the trip He can take a half day He could have made the trip to come to Comic Con He wasn't there

He was in a cycle buddy hoodie This show was inherited Before James Gunn got there At the same time though I think that's why he wasn't there I think that James Gunn wasn't there To let the creators of this particular show He did say hey

I'm away shooting man tomorrow and that was good. But there was a little distance there. And I'm not saying that Warner Brothers made that decision. I think it's probably a smart decision on behalf of James Gunn. While the conversation around James Gunn right now is sort of as divisive and as, I guess, fraught as it's been since he really started his winning streak, let the creators of that show and the people whose hands are directly in that show, let them live in that show on that panel. and let them soak that up without James Gunn or anybody else being up there

and people having to wonder if this is going to be another adventure into the colorful. And there's no buck passing. Right. So I think Lindeloff and the rest of the showrunners that were up there. Monday. Monday. The entire cast, they did such a great job of not only discussing the stakes and the rules of this world, but also talking about them working together, how they approached it.

It really was a phenomenal panel. Did not have the production value of a sale of a Marvel panel. But if you wanted to get into the guts of a show and really get excited about watching the show, that's probably the best thing that I saw at. Absolutely. Joe Me. Favorite part of Comic-com.

Favorite part? I know. My favorite part, I'm not going to say what my actual favorite part was. But my favorite part was the Avatar panel. Okay. Yeah. I didn't get to hear about this. So, I mean, the movies.

It's been leaked for months, but I haven't seen it. So being in Hall H, seeing the trailer for the first time, I mean, if you've ever been to Hall H, the sound is booming in there. It's got that thing like. It's incredible. It's incredible. But seeing my favorite characters again, Ang, Saka, Suka, Katar, Toff, like, as, like, you know, grown-ups or like...

Bukayo Saka? No, stop. It was just, was just amazing. Yeah. The animation style is great. They had the original creators. They had the new voice cast. I'm out there.

Dave Patista is playing a character in the movie. I am so excited to go to, apparently a showing in theaters in L.A. I got to go out and see it next week because it looked incredible. I'm really excited to see what My, what Avatar, the Last Airbender, animated sequel series,

hasn't stored for me. And then there was the new show, Avatar 7 Havens. That's like the, after Quora, the next Avatar. And they showed our first trailer. And like, we saw it like, Batu, I don't know if you guys, of course, he's a two.

Anybody seems to be the villain in that one. They're running it back. I'm excited to see what the Avatar universe as a style, man. What? Let's go to the movie, man. We can go watch a movie, we still say Avatar, he thinks James Cameron. I thought that's what it was at first. I was like, why is Joe me going to that?

Oh, man, we could go get some chilies, man, watch the movies. Hey, bro, listen. Toxic positivity. I am the one who loved Demon Slayer way more than any of y'all. Okay. Well, Avatar's not anime. But whatever, it don't matter. This movie, this movie, like, is animated like an anime.

They got, like, it looks crazy. Speaking of anime, do you know what the best thing about this entire Comic-Con was? What? French rule? By far? Nope. The best thing of this entire Comic-Con by far for us. And I'm going to be honest with you.

Over the course of doing this show with you guys, I have seen all of you guys grow in respect of, ways. Hell yeah. This Comic Con was a major step forward, a gigantic step forward in the career of one of our Midnight Boys. Steve Allman was moderating a major panel at Comic Con. That's the last thing I'm going to say about it because I'm going to let him talk about

it, but we couldn't be proud of it. I had a very great opportunity to work with Adult Swim, and they gave me the shot at moderating the MyVetri's the Superman panel. and they were very, very gracious and nice to me. They were big fans of us. And I got to moderate a panel in the Indigo Ballroom, which is a massive room that I did not realize how many people were there.

Got to meet the cast, got to talk to them and have some amazing questions for them. Got to talk to the showrunners as well. And you get to see some amazing conversations that we had with both of those people. It's kind of the wildest thing that I could ever imagine getting to do at Comic-Con. And I'm going to remember this for the rest of my life.

This is... We're going to forget it because you're going to do so many of them that you're never going to. Well, thank you. I wasn't embarrassed. Jack Quaid sniffed out the weave in the room. I'm like, nigga, don't ask me no. What's that? Nick, that's what you look?

That's what you mean? You got to stop because on the panel floor, this is the last year you're going to do this. Any single time you see anime, Asian girl, you're like, hey, Charles. Hey, yeah, look at that. It's Chuck. What's that? Chuck. Look at that.

All right. I'll say this as, like, as well. just like on on top of that. We have an amazing time every time we're at Comic Con. Oh, yeah, yeah. Obviously, we joked earlier about the Comic-Con people. That's a, we're joking. We love the hospitality that we're showed here at Comic-Con.

We love the fact that, because it's not Comic-Con. It's actually the individual company that we don't get the press to. But we're going to be more forthright about that. Excuse me, more. We're going to be more, we're going to push for that more. We're going to bring you guys consistently better, more. stuff from Comic Con. We had a phenomenal time.

Now, I say this. We're leaving Comic Con. It's over. We're going to go to the blurting boogey party tonight before we go. Let's give five minutes. Feel back the curtains and reveal some of the funny shit that happened.

Only the ways we can. First of all, you're not here. Shout out button mash. But let you go. Hey, Lindberg, your name rings out. out here in these states. This is the most incredible thing ever. Okay, so when we walk on the, we walk on the panel floor and like outside,

like it's the midnight boys. It's the four of us. It's me. It's really good. It's Lauren. Like, we're all together for the most part. And we're walking down into the convention center. Yeah.

And somebody stops me, me of all the people. You, Jomi, Chuck, legitimately like a lot more clout. stops me and says, are you Ben Lindberg? Yeah. I just looked at him. I went hilarious. I laughed so hard. And then the niggil worked at Ubisoft.

So he's actually working with Ben Lindberg. And I don't know if he thinks he's talking to Steve. I don't know if he thinks he's talking to- We have to do a re-ranking of the white boys at the ringer. Because Ben Lindberg jumped a couple of notches. Yeah. You know what I mean? CT way up there, Ben Lindberg way up there.

But like that was really funny. We had shooters at the fucking meet-in-grit. Niggis trying to fucking catch a slipping block. Hey, hey, hey. What'd you say he was going to do? What'd you say he was going to do? You say he's going to do it. This is what we'll do.

Because we got. We got to go. We're going to give a separate recap. We gave you guys the content recap. We're going to give the next episode of Midnight, We're going to give you a recap of the meet and greet. And then a recap of the panel. The panel went lovely.

Yeah, shout out everybody who came to the panel. The meeting greet. The room was full, man. Pats. The room is everything we met besides one. But we're going to give you guys, there was stuff that's been happening and we must talk about this stuff. Yes, we do. But we're going to get out of here right now.

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