The Ringer-Verse - Double Feature Draft: The Greatest Toys and the Best Movie Explosions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

Here comes the boom! In celebration of the 'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' releases, the Midnight Boys are giving you their first double feature draft! A two-part draft of the best toys ever (09:30) and cinema's most incredible explosions (59:18). Join them as they find the best of both worlds while nostalgia and napalm consume this episode. Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Steve Ahlman, and Jomi Adeniran Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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ringerverse. This is of course the ringer's nexus podcast fee for all things fandom. We are Show me the milk merchant of dinner on. He's got answers. We are. Steve, the architect

Alman. The tinker of things. We are. Old man, van. He of the receding hairline. We are Coke, baby Chuck, 24-carric closer, aka a, Mr. Talk to Essence on the red.

You, can we? Chill. Can we? We're not even 30 seconds in. We not even 30 seconds. Relax. Together, we are known as the Midnight Boys. Woo!

You guys would never, it's just a conversation we were having before the podcast. It's like, it's Midnight Boys. What is the level above Deep Shadow Protocol in terms of like we couldn't even record it because I don't know man I don't know if the record recklessness eternal shadow protocol eternal shadow yes what we talked about you guys just have to wonder maybe one day we'll tell you um follows on socials insta Twitter Facebook save Jomey's job make sure that Jomey um impresses his overlord Elon Musk

okay uh threads is still not on there and threads is kind of falling off let's be honest. Like people aren't as excited about threads anymore. I feel like the fate of threads versus Twitter will be decided in the much-valihood, Elon Musk versus Mark Zuckerberg cage match. Who you got your

money on? I'm with Zuck. He's looking right. Yeah, Zuck got to win. I'm not fucking with Zuck got to win, bro. Oh, no. Zuck got to win. If Elon Musk wins, it's over. It's the one thing on the timeline that'll take us into ruin. There'll be

No stopping him, bro. No. He was. Yo, can you imagine the social network, too, that is just like Mark Zuckerberg? Like, it's like Rocky. We just following Zuck through the, like, UFC, fucking middleweight championship.

Crazy. Brough. The only thing I don't trust about these tech guys is, what if Zuck got some kind of implant, like he bionic or something? You know, like, what are these? You think Mark Zuckerberg is the bionic, man? He's the $6 million man.

No, no, no, like Elon punches his head so hard that, like, the little alien pops out like it's in men and black. Yeah, something weird. Like, these guys, they know too much about tech. Whatever. What a ridiculous world we live in. I broke out of our reminders! On Thursday, Jessica Clemens will have a new Easter egg breakdown video pod on Secret Invasion episode five. On Friday, House of R is giving you part three of their Doctor Who primer.

Dr. Who Dr. Who? One of my favorite shows, of course, as you guys know, Dr. Who and all of the time shenanigans that happened with the TVA over there, Dr. Who, and whatever's going on in the phone booth,

which I love the show. Purple Man and whatever. On Sunday, Min Edition is back to give you their instant reactions to Barbie. A movie that we know Jomey's going to love. Oh, yeah, Jomey. Come on. Jones is like Will Smith.

Yeah. A movie we know. He loves Margo Robbie. The moment that Margo Robbie was cast. We know that Jomey was going to be into this. This is going to be Joe's movie the year. Like, give me, first of all, have you guys seen Barbie yet? Have you seen the movie yet?

Night. We're singing tonight. Sing it tonight. Seen it tonight. Okay. This is mean you guys are out on Barberheimer for Friday. Is this just a van and calico thing? So, like, I'm trying.

traveling on Friday. So I was already out the whole thing. Y'all are the worst friends. Van is always trying to like hang out with you, share time. And y'all never want to chill with them. I said this in the group text. No, I said in the group text. I'm traveling. I had a wedding on Saturday. In

Maryland, I can't, I can't be here this week. Can't be here. So, Barbenheimer is happening on Friday. I can't wait. I'll do it by myself. I'll do Barberhammer by myself. Think about the dispressing experience of going to see Oppenheimer by yourself. You're in the theater by yourself. You're watching Oppenheimer. Probably doing something stupid.

Look, Min Edition, I can't wait to see what you guys think, hear what you guys think about Barbie. Very excited about the movie. Today's show, though, we're getting into it. We're buying two tickets to Barbie and Oppenheimer because we're finally embarking

on the double-feature draft. Two separate competitions, back-to-back. Like Drake, remember that song? Back to back. Back to back. That's what we're doing. The greatest toys of all time is the first draft.

And the best movie explosions of all time is the second draft. I can't tell you guys how excited I am for this. It's an amazing situation. Now, interesting, I'll call out the elephant in the room here. You know what I don't see on this? You got to look closely. It's on the front print. I don't see it.

Is there any secret invasion in the show today, Chuck Wagon? Hell no. I ain't even finished that shit this morning. I felt so giddy. I was just like, dog, maybe I'll never finish this. It would be great. Oh, my God. I want to let you guys know something.

This is the golden age of Charles that you're in right now. Okay. This is the golden age of Charles. No one is having a better run. Think about how bad the run is right now for MCU fandom, DCEU. That's how good the run is for Charles. Number one, he turned Steve into a hater. Steve was a, I listen back to the podcast, and he rubbed off on Steve and made Steve hate.

Steve who's- I'm bringing you all to my level. That's what's happening. You're transcending to your best selves. Crazy. And now we've officially here at the Midnight Boys put secret. invasion in our pocket. We're going to cover both episodes next week. The penultimate, which was this week and the finale, I'll say I thought the

penultimate was pretty good. It was cool. Yeah, it's cool. The penultimate and the finale next week. But Chuck Wagon is winning. Chuck, how do you feel? Hey, let's just say next week I'm going to talk my shit. My motherfucker said I was a hater, but I see those numbers.

I don't even see anybody begging for us to talk about secret invasion. You know, MCU cooked, I'm feeling pretty good. Kevin Feigy called me. It's not too late. I can fix everything. I'm this powerful. I will say this. We do need to do a deep dive into the problems of the MCU.

Like literally just do a two-hour blowout on is the MCU cooked? What the MCU has to do to be on. We've done that podcast like five different times. Hold on. No, we haven't. No, we haven't. Not only have we not had that podcast. Van, you want on a podcast.

a podcast, I want to say at the end of Manorian and we're like, guys, what's wrong with the MCU? What's wrong with Star Wars? Email us what you think. And then you never went back to it. And the ring ofverse at,

or the ringerverse at gmail.com is filled with letters. Oh, from people like, hey man. Let's go. Let's go. Here's what I think is wrong. We got like a hundred. We got like a hundred and change.

We got some time before Asoka. Let's do it. Let's do the two-hour blowout. Let's do the, two-hour blowout on what's actually going wrong and let's do it from a very critical

logical place not having a two-hour hate fest on the MCU which we all love at least three of us love it. I'm not so sure you love a church. I love that you too. Not really bro. I think you like it. No, no, no, no. Mr.

Cookson's end game. The fucking MCU is your toxic girlfriend. Like I love myself too much. now. I love myself too much to keep getting hurt. Y'all keep going back every couple months. Like, she changed, though. She changed. So you want to have a conversation about girlfriends? Is what you're trying to say?

No, I do. You know. Just joke. Just joke. Just joke. We're doing a toy. Best toys ever draft. Best explosions ever draft.

And we're going to spoil some stuff. Steve, we actually have a spoiler warning for this. Let us have. We're getting ready to talk about. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Take it away, Chuck. All right.

So in honor of Barbenheimer weekend, the Midnight Boys have decided to launch the first double-feature draft in Ringer history. First, we'll be picking the greatest toys of all time. And later in the show, we'll duke it out to see

who can pick the best movie explosions. Each of the boys get four picks each and go in snake draft order. Since these are separate competitions, the draft order of the contestants will change for each draft. And whoever gets picked first for the toy draft is ineligible to go first for the movie Explosion draft. There are no categories for both drafts.

With all that out of the way, let's throw it to our Juna to see the order that we're going in. First pick is Steve. There we go. Second pick is Jomi. Third pick is Van and picking last. This drafts. Nice. You know what?

All right. All right. Okay. Really, really quickly, though, we have some rules, though. We have some rules. To avoid confusion, once a toy is picked, all versions of that toy are off the fucking board. If somebody picks Malibu Barbie, the next person can't pick Dr. Barbie. You picked Barbie.

It's off, okay? Okay. Then we, this was two of the midnight boys agreed to disagree. We met in the middle. No video games. No video games. No. video game consoles. These are all toys. Now, one more question I have for y'all. Do games count?

Not video games, but just games in general. Like board games? Board games. Bord games, card games, anything that you play. I'd be fine with allowing board games and card games for sure. Fuck no. Okay. What? What? I don't think it counts. It definitely counts. Be serious. I think I think toys are one thing. You're wait. So Bowship is in a toy to you. It's not a toy. That is a game. No. It's not a toy.

It's not a toy. We could have our own board games draft. We could have our own video game console. You're always trying to be. It's, they are definitely toys. I'm fine. I'm fine.

I'm taking it off. No, no, I'm finally taking it off. It's not a toy. No, no. Show me, where are you at?

Not a toy. I think board games. I don't know about card games. Card games might be a little tough. Right. Board games should be on the board. It's toys and games. Here's the thing.

We could do our own board games. I think even if we took board games out of the equation, we'd still have plenty of choices in the toy draft. I'm just saying that we're being like, this is wild. We're limited our options, but I mean, it's got to get tight.

Not eliminating by that much. Like, I'm just saying we're limiting what toys are. Toys, man, we're talking dolls, we're talking action figures. We're talking race cars. We're talking tracks.

I think Van's point is, if it's not coming alive in Toy Story, that it's not a, it's eligible. Excuse me, Jomey. Why don't you stop? Stop spitting. Jummy, why don't you do a favor?

You got stuff all over your screen. You got stuff all over your screen because you're spitting so hard. All of the stuff. John me, would you do me a favor and stop spitting? You know, like, stop spitting, bro. You make it too much sense. Okay. All right.

Let's do it. All right. I have the first pick. There is so many things that I can choose from here. I think this is probably going to have to. be something that I know we've all touched that I know that we've all had something we've all touched.

Get your mind out of the fucking gutters. Charles, come on. Jeez. My God. Okay, this toy has like an entire subculture of people trying to soup these things up. Change them, enhance them

when they're already cool enough. You've loved them since you were five. You kind of want to still get one now. I pick for my first pick Nerf gun. Okay. Nerf guns. Nerf guns.

First pick overall? First pick overall? Yes. Interesting. Nerf is interesting. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop.

Stop, stop. Wait, wait, wait, stop. Hold on, hold on, wait. Wait, wait. Let me say something real quick about this. What on, what? There is, Steve has, Steve has a reputation, okay? And I feel like that reputation is, is, see what Joe is doing right now?

It's not, Jomey, I don't know. Steve has a reputation. The LaForge is in his soul. So I think that a lot of times people maybe treat Steve unfairly. I don't know that there's anything wrong with that choice. A lot of these things are going to be personal, Chuck. Do you think that's a bad choice? No, it's not a bad choice.

I just, we're talking about first, we're talking about greatest toys of all time. How are you going to say that a Nerf gun is? Isn't a toy that you loved? First overall pick. Oh, wait, Jomey, Jomey. Name your favorite Nerf gun right now. That's nuts. Like, everybody here has a Nerf gun that they loved and remembered as a kid.

Yeah. I wouldn't be my first number one. Can I be honest with you? Can I be honest with you? I never had a Nerf gun. Never had a Nerf gun before my life. It was all. I had to go to my white friend's house and play with their Nerf guns.

But by the way, people had nerve guns. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. It's not for nothing. I'm not for nothing. I'm not, people had nerve guns. I don't think Nerf guns is a bad first choice, but I've never had a nerve gun. I think NERF gun.

But can I say the Nerf gun, the Nerfgun commercials made it look like the funest fucking toy. I was, it was the best shit. I was like, dog. Wait, really quick, we have to go to Jomey's make. Do we think that Steve is at an unfair advantage because, you know,

because of his people and what they did to our people, he's just going to have more access to toys than, you know, your average black person? You know what? I had a lot of toys. I have, to be honest, like, I had my Auntie Mary Bess. I had a lot of toys too.

And I had a lot of people who would send toys and the toys will come through. I had some toys on this list that's really that, you know, other people might not have had. I had some real toys. I had some real toys. You know what I'm saying? So I can't really say that. I will say that my parents didn't like me really having Nerf guns because that shit might be. Might have been a bit impressionable.

I get it. You know what I mean? But I think a Nerf Gun is a solid first pick. I don't think there's anything wrong with the Nerf Gun, man. I think we're being a little mean to Steve. Steve, come on. Nerf guns. Come on.

Like, that's the coolest fucking toy. I think we're going to look back at the draft and go Nerf guns. Really? Yes. First overall pick is crazy. I know that my number two is going to be gone by the first round. So by the time it comes back to me, this shit will be gone. Show me.

Show me where are you going for your first movie? I'm going to go with something that. You know, as kids, we all have like wild imaginations. And, you know, once you get two, three, four, five, you start sticking them together. And you can create any world imaginable. And even to this day, to this day, people are still clicking on them,

to pull locking in. Go with Legos. I thought this was going to be the first overall pick. I thought it was going to be two. This is one I thought it was going to be the first one. I thought Legos were going to be the first overall pick, too. Because it's like, everybody had different Lego type of situations. Legos was a big deal.

I thought the Legos was going to be the first pick. And Legos was going to be the only ones. I only had two traditional picks and everything else is going to be based upon toys. I didn't have that many Legos. Everything else is going to be based upon toys I actually had. Right. Interesting. Okay.

People are locked. You'll be shocked, man. You know, you can get, we saw it in Spider-Man, get the Lego Death Star. People, I know, Mow, shout out Mous. You got the Lego. everything. Well, yeah, the Mando ship

from the first two seasons. You know what I mean? Like my boy, Eduardo, shout at Eduardo, man. He, like, collects the Lego

joints. So he got, like, the Lord of the Rings, the Star Wars. My man is locked in. That Rivendell set was crazy. People are really into this thing.

You feel me? You know, I mean, I, you know, I play Legos' child. I, you know, I ain't got enough bread

to go out there at their Lego store and buy $499 Lego sets, that I mean? But shout out to the Lego people, man y'all locked in i'd be seeing y'all on ticot they'd be building all kinds of stuff i'm like man that's

that's crazy yeah legos legos big time big time all right uh we'll go ahead and get us into the action figure genre and talk about a time when you could buy two toys

for the price of one it's two toys it's actually two toys in one and we didn't know what was going on we didn't know what was going on we didn't know what was happening. It was the future.

People were talking about jet packs. You're watching the Jetsons and going crazy and all of that stuff. We didn't need all of that because I could have a goddamn semi-truck that turned into a fighter. And not just any fighter. A fighter that was the leader of a whole faction, a tribe of people. A fighter that some people on this podcast think is a black. man. Definitely black man.

If you wanted to race with your friends, you could race with them. If you wanted to fly with your friends, you could fly with them. And if you wanted to war with your friends, you could war with them as long as you had more than

meets the eye. The Transformers is my first pick. Thank you, Steve, for picking the goddamn Nerf guns. Transformers, the greatest action figure ever made, was left on the board. I got the Transformers for my first pick.

How about it, fellows? What do you think? That's fire. Great. Damn. Amazing. Was that the one where you're just like, there's the iconic one I got to get off the board as soon as possible.

Yeah, because to me, to me, there's some iconic joints on here, but like I don't have any toys from the 90s except for one toy. One toy from the 90s. And so I'm looking at this, and the rest of these are just going to be picking with my heart. But I had to have a heavy hitter. And if you're going to have a heavy hitter, you've got to have the Transformers. Smart.

So this one, I'm picking because I'm on the misogynistic boys. Nobody wanted to pick it. But this is the whole reason we're doing this podcast. All right. I'm doing it for the girls. No fights. No fights here. I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world.

I can't lie. Dog, I love, like, brushing Barbie's hair. Like, you know, I'd be with my cousins. I would just be like, yo, let's do a little, you know, get together. I'll pick a Barbie. I grew up with a sister, and most of my great memories with Barbie are stealing them from her just to make her mad. And then every once in a while, I would see some of the cool dolls that she had. I was like, man, these are some cool dolls.

They were pretty sick. They were pretty sick. Can't, you know what the reality is? Is that Barbie is the most iconic toy that's been drafted? Yeah. I might have one more. I might have one more that could run for that. Might have one more that could ride about.

Barbie, the Legos is, I mean, I'm talking, we can talk about, like, what we think are better toys. But if we're talking about iconic toys, that's why I'm picking it. Toys that matter in, like, the Barbie is the most iconic, the most historic, the biggest toy, maybe of all time, bro. No, you're, yeah, no, for sure. So, yeah, it's a fantastic pick right there, Charles. Picking a, picking a win. I'm, I'm picking another iconic toy. if I couldn't get Legos,

I think these are right under Legos in terms of like kindergarten, preschool, I would go and they had the joints. They had the big fucking tracks. Okay? Zooming fucking everywhere.

Yeah. Y'all don't understand how, like the 90s, the hot wheels, the tracks that they had, the loops, my nigga. Like, I was like, this is the peak of technology. You know?

When they came out with the, like, it was like two roller skates and it made them like zoom off on the track. Yeah. And they made it like, shoot. Dude. I could play with it for hours. I never had one at my house. But like, I was just like, duh. I made tracks all over my room.

I didn't. I wasn't able to get the best. I wasn't able to get the tracks, but I was a hot wheels kid. Like I would, like, I used to have like 30, 40 to them joints to the point where like I would organize them. And if like my mom or my dad or my sister went out and. and mess with him, I get upset up, but like, hey, he goes right here. He's third row second in the back.

Like, stop playing with you. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, you're a certain age and you've got the hot wheels, and it's, I can play with it for hours. And then you get in middle school and there's a new toy. You know, it's I can play with it for hours?

Oh. So it's... Get there. Can we not, please? Can we keep these memories pure? Where is God in this conversation? It's as you grow. Where is God?

You play with. You know, you're watching MTV's the grind. So here's the thing. Hot wheels, fantastic. I used to like to have the hot wheel tracks. I used to try to have them, but we had carpet on the floor

and the hot wheel tracks wouldn't really go on the carpet. So it was always janky. We always had to have somebody hold down the hot wheel track as we were trying to get our shit off. I would like anger it with books, like just to hold it down. Right.

We tried to have. help somebody, hey, bro, hold the track, bro, it's my turn. But the Hot Wheels, unbelievable. Hot wheels, unbelievable. Okay, it's my turn now. Are all the iconic ones, at least on this level taken at this point, do you think? No. No, we got some hitters for sure.

No, so I got to go with something that was in the 80s that I used to stone on people with. He's got to be honest with you. Let me tell you guys the story. I was a kid, 1986, 8586. you know, my dad says it's going to be a good Christmas. I'm like, what? He's like, I'm just telling you, it's going to be a good Christmas. I'm like, that's all you said.

I'm like, okay, he's like, Daddy, he's like, Daddy been saving up. It's going to be a good Christmas. And I'm like, oh, what's happening? What's happening? Brough, I never forget this, dog. And I'm not about to get emotional, but I'll never forget this. Like, just hearing it's going to be a good Christmas is one thing. but then having the Christmas blown the fuck out

I came out I had a little robe a little brown robe I used to wear they used to they used to call me the gentleman I had a little robe I used to wear I get the robe it's on Spain Street in Baton Rouge right next to Baton Rouge Highway living on the thing and there's something plugged into the wall

charging up and I look and it's a motherfucking big foot power wheel and I never in life thought that they were able to be actually to be able to buy something like that. A big foot power wheel, bro. And it's charging and dad is like, he's looking at me. He's like, son, that's yours. And I'm like, wait, that's for me?

He's like, yeah, that's for me. Bro, I got that bitch the next morning. I'm driving around. It was like a nigga had a soundtrack. The neighborhood kids is running out. They're like, oh shit. Look at Van. Van got a power wheel.

Man, can I ride it? Man, can I ride it? Can I ride it? I'm like, no. It's my power wheel. Peasant? I'm rolling. Rolling down to the end of the block.

I'm stopping. I'm checking out the young girls. I'm looking at it. I'm turning around. I'm learning how to do my whole thing. Three days later, my cousin, Coy broke that bitch, and we never got it fixed. Damn, three days.

It's just like one battery in a couple wires, though. Bro, Coy went up under that bitch and tried to do something, and it broke for whatever reason. And my dad was like, you shouldn't have let that nigger rise your power. Yo. Let this be a lesson to you. That's it. That's a teachable moment right there.

And when people call me selfish, I always say, you're not going to break my shit. All right. But the power wheel was not a toy that was wide that everyone could afford. I understand this. But my dad, my uncle, and my aunt came together to buy me a power wheel. And I was one of the only kids in the neighborhood that had it for around 72 hours. That's my second choice. I know the other kids were so happy when that shit broke.

they like, that's what he deserves. They hate his power wheel. They hated you for that. They were, like when I'm telling you, because the power wheel, because what happened with the power wheel, right, is the power wheel essentially, we didn't throw the power wheel away,

okay, when they broke. It became like one of those cars that sits in people's front yards that don't run. You got your power wheel on blocks? Oh, my God. I swear to God, bro, we moved and brought the puck.

Power wheel with us. The broken power wheel. We brought it with us. We didn't throw that bitch away till fucking like 88 or 89. Like we just talked to like, get rid of that goddamn thing. I literally had it. It might have been, it might have been four days.

Coy came over to drive it. Corey broke my motherfucking power wheel. They didn't buy another one. But I'm telling you, bro. For the three days I had that bitch, nigger, I might as well have been motherfucking Leonardo DiCaprio. I was stunned on these dumbass niggins.

Anyway, all right, that's my second pick. The power wheel. All right, Jomey, where are you going with your second pick? I'm taking us, you know,

from power wheels and batters Louisiana all the way to Japan. Okay. Locking in on one of the most influential, I don't say influential, maybe,

but one of the most popular toys in our history. I don't know if y'all were locked in like this now. I didn't have one. We grew up. We grew up in squalid. I wasn't able to forward power wheels and in toys like this. But everybody in streets had them.

They had them hooked today, today, belt loops. Had them hooked in their purses. Then they was locked in feeding their tomogatchis. Damn. I don't know what the time of gosh is. You don't know what tamagashi is? Yeah. Oh, you know what tomogoshies, man.

Listen, we're going to get some mileage. out of this one today. Van is old. What's a Tamagachi? All right, so a Tamagashi was like a little egg creature that you would like have to keep alive. And like you would have to feed it and wake it up. It's a little tiny like egg shape three button like. And you would put it on your loop or it had like a key chain thing.

And that shit would like die. And I don't think you could like bring it back once it was. You can feed it its own poo. Yeah. So here's the thing about that. Number one, my parents would have never let me have that. that sound like some devil worship and shit. Number two is, Louisiana, we didn't really need those

because by the time we got 12 or 13, we had our own kids anyway, so we could just raise them up. All right. Oh, man. Why can't you let's talk about something to her, bro? No, I'm saying, I like it. I never heard of that before. I literally, this is for the first time,

when he was saying chain to his wallet or whatever, or chain to his belt loop, I really never heard of that. I never heard of the time I got you before. It sounds dope, though. It's like the little babies, the girl used to give. the girls used to get in Home Mac and they had to keep the baby a lot. It kind of. It's kind of like that, but it's like this cute little animal thing.

You don't do that at Homemec anymore? Because by the time I was there, they weren't making us take care of babies, which is also a little problematic. If you think about it, be like, hey, teenagers, get ready to take care of a child. Like, why? It was about, it was about making you not want to have a kid. But I used to take people with kids and kick the shit out of them. But look, so it, so Toma got you.

Okay, cool. I'm not hating. I'm not hating. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not hating at all. I'm just saying I never heard. No, Tomogachis were the shit. I'm looking at the price back in the day. In 1996, Tomogacchis were priced at $18.

$18. Jesus. Yeah, I was 16, bro. I wouldn't know no Tamagachi at that point. I was trying to get to Tamakuchi at that point. Oh, bro. What is it wrong with you this episode, Dan? We're literally just, all right.

Y'all don't want me to be me. Tomahoochee is crazy, bro. Come on. Tomahoochee is. That's insane. There was one, there was all. only one toy that I still had, and I'm a draft it because y'all not going to draft it. But yeah, Tom, okay, cool.

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You got back to back picks. Where are you going? Again, like, I wasn't really on this like Charles was for the Barbie, but I think that like this was probably something that's like iconic, again, growing up with a sister, this was the first thing that I was like taught was like a toy of extreme value and importance. And that's the American Girl Dolls. Oh, never mind. I don't, I don't know where you were going. American Girl Dolls? Yeah.

That's a joy of the Forge, bro. Dog. He doesn't take this thing seriously. He doesn't think this draft thing seriously. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. That's a Jordan Laforge, bro.

What are you doing? First of all, first of all, let me tell you why that's a Jordan LaForge and at the same time. It's a Jordan LaForge, bro, and it's a transatlantic slave point. What are you doing? It's both at the same time. It's both at the same time. So, I will tell you right now, Steve just drafted a slave. Like he did, bro

What do you talk? Stop. The American girl doll That's black. She's a freed slave, bro. Oh, for God's sake. Are you serious? Brough.

That's facts, bro. They're lying. You're lying. The black American girl doll was in the underground railroad? Slave, bruh. Her name is Addy Walker. This is from night. She's from 1864.

She was released in 1990. 93, her story begins... I want for the record to say that I did not specifically pick Addie Walker. Wait, why not? Why not? Why not? You dropped in America. Did it?

Addie Walker's story begins when she was enslaved on a North Carolina. During the Civil War. With her father and brother are sold to a different enslaver, Addie and her mom escaped to freedom. them in Philadelphia. Like, it's like in 19, she dropped in 2007. Like the little girl, dog. Like, did she drop?

Oh, my God. She dropped. She dropped in whatever. Like, it wasn't 2007. They she dropped before them. What is this girl's accessories? Does she come with like shackles and chitlins? Like, what is it?

I'm telling you. American girl, dog. American girl. Steve, you didn't think it through. You don't know. When I, when I heard this, when I heard this, I was flabbergasted. I didn't know this.

Rachel told me this. This is higher learning knowledge. Rachel was like, I had the American Girl doll. I had the black one. And she was a former slave. And I'm like, what? Incensed.

I'm like, what? And she was like, yeah, the American Girl dolls are from before. So Steve was in there with his sister. No, we were having an option. What's going on? Wait, also, wait, Steve.

Like the cabbage patch. situation was right there. Right there. Right there. American girl dolls. We weren't on cabbage patch like that. Damn. So it was a boy,

American girl. So, I mean, American girl They're classic. They're classics. I mean, yes, they are. Like, they're expensive as shit. I mean, just like the power wheel.

Here's the thing. Like, it was, and it was a big deal. Like, when you had the big wheel growing up as a kid, like, when my parents said that it was going to be a good Christmas for my sister, it's like,

you take her to, like, it was like a bill to bear, but like a boutique build a bear. We're like, they had the girls on display, and this is sounding a lot worse now that I'm going to be talking about given the last thing that we just talked about. But it was a whole thing

that like, I couldn't. They had the girls on display. That's crazy. You go to the toy store and you pick the black girl on display. That's a former slave. You're like, I want to take you home. Like nobody thought this through. Like an auction? Yeah. Oh my God. You can't. Damn.

All right. It were very important. And anybody else that it's ever had American Girl Doll will testify to this. Those are fucking classic toys. It's a big deal. Shout out to Addy, man. I hope she ran the freedom.

But after Nerf guns? Yeah. After Nerf guns? I couldn't, I wasn't going to go with two gun-based toys for my draft, but it was better. The other thing that somebody might have picked. Anyway, my third pick,

I genuinely love this toy because I would actually spend hours and hours playing it with it. And it was like one of the first toys that like, brought out my own little creativity and it's around for decades and it still is a classic going with the etchish sketch It's a sketch.

Asch sketch is perfect. Etch sketch is great. Like when I was a kid I was like this is magic. I don't understand how it works. Yeah, bro. And like you try to get like the curves just right.

You try to get like each turn and like fill lines in and all these other things. It's so specific and so unique that like I just wanted to make art or like little drawings perfectly in that thing. And I couldn't like it like it was, it was amazing. Like I genuinely couldn't think of it. And it's so old. It came out so, so many years ago and it's still a perfect toy.

I thought I was Picasso with that bitch. I was just like, go look at my shit. The etch-a-sketch is what separated the talent from the troglodytes, bro. I saw some people making some etchre-skechance drum. and I was just like, you're a fucking genius. Damn, man. Like, my cousin Brian, man, rest of peace, Brian. I was looking with Brian.

I'm on the extra sketch trying to draw a star. Brian is like doing all kinds of things, making perfect. I'm like, wow, like you really are dope. Man, the edge sketch is a classic. That's synonymous with childhood right there. That's a real good, Steve. I'm a really good pick. I'm really proud of you.

You bounce back. Jomskyl. It's my turn. I'm going to use one of my personal picks right here because this toy, although I've spent so much time with this toy and I still don't really know how it works. I've never actually solved one before my entire life. I'm really, really bad at it. But I could spend hours just flicking it around and moving the colors. Go with the Roos Cube.

Oh. Yeah. I'm out on the Rubik's Cube. I'm so bad. I was too stupid. I was too stupid. Oh, I was, I'd never solved a Rubik's Cube in my entire life.

And I know that people, people could do it in seconds. And I'm just like, I don't know how you do that. People, like, there's like, like, versus of them that are like eight and nine or like,

you know, like freaking pyramids and like diamonds and stuff. And they just solve it in like eight seconds, ridiculous. Even the three by three, the regular three by three that we all know and love, I can only get to like one side. I'm going to make one side the color.

And I'm going to, like, look at me. I did it. I'm so smart. Like, you know. I can make an argument that that's not a toy. That's a toy. What are you talking about? That's a toy. What do you want? It's kind of a game. No, it's not. That's a toy. Okay. It's kind of a puzzle. Okay. We're not, we're not doing this. Get, no. No.

No. Fuck you, Jamie. Fuck you. It's your turn. Yeah. Um, okay. So I have to draft this because nobody else has drafted it. Um, but, you know, thing is there's the full battle right there's the full battle like the whole battle and then there's half the battle knowing

which is knowing which is knowing and half the battle is knowing knowing is actually half the battle in that case I'm going in unarmed because I and then the other part is just like I mean you went in unarmed with American girl because you didn't realize that you had

drafted transatlantic slavery and little Addie in her story. Tough. Born in 1864. Okay? You didn't realize that. But I have to draft, which is what is essentially the masculine counterpart to the Barbie,

this is G.I. Joes. G.I. J.I. J.O.s have had many incarnations over the times to this classic G.I. Joe, which was more of a doll. And then you have the 80s rebrand of the G.I. Joe when you get snake eyes. You get all the cool different. You get Cobra Commander. You get a whole mythology with the G.I. Joes. And you get action figures that were really capable of high-level warfare.

Yo. You get action figures to where when you had enough of them, you had a little infantry. You had guys, like, we were setting guys up and we were ambushing each other. Like the whole nine The GI Joe. You had SEAL Team 6 with you. You had different squadrons with different. You had the Kung Fu grip.

You had the GI Joe as being probably the signature, I guess, military or masculine boy toy of the 80s in a way. There's a lot of other toys that aren't going to make the cut here. But if I had to draft one of them. them, I'm going to draft the GI Joe, man. The GI Joe was crazy, bro. It was crazy. The 12-inch figure

and it was down to the 3.75 inch figure, Jome Skittle. And so, it's different. It's like, it's one of the most iconic toys ever. Now, we could talk about the American military, industrial complex and whether or not the CIA is involved in pushing these toys towards you guys so that you can believe.

It indoctrinated into all of that stuff. We could talk about that. Maybe that's true. However, I got to draft G.I. Joe's got to draft. No, that's a great pick. Again, a little bit before our time, but you can't deny it because, like, there's a reason we all know the name.

G.I. Joe. The real American hero series of G.I. Joe's the ones. Yeah. Love them. Yeah, Joe. Chuck, the beacon of American exceptionalism. You know what? So because I'm going forth, I realize I just have to do the iconic draft.

So this third pick, this to me was a status symbol, like when you would go into like the comic. bookstore or you'd be hanging out with your dad, you'd be seeing this packaging. And it would be so iconic. And every single time I'm just like, yo, when I'm old, I'm going to have one of these joints. I'm just going to collect them. I got to go with the Star Wars action figures. They, like, the packaging, every single, like, and I wanted, I want to, Chubac. I want to Luke. I was just like, how was this so fucking cool from everything? And they were so small. I know I was too young, for the Kenner joints, but still,

the Star Wars action figures were really just, I was like, when I'm 30, my whole room is just going to be plastered. With, like, I was at the time where they had, like, the green packaging is shit. That's so dope. Were you, did you have the original joints then? No, I've never owned a Star Wars toy.

Really? What? So, I feel crazy. Can I tell you guys something? I, looking back on it, I think I took Star Wars too seriously to have toys. Like, that's not a thing for toys. Like, I, the way I invested into Star Wars,

I've never collected a ton of Star Wars stuff. I just had to read every single piece of the lore. Like, it was like, during that time when I was really getting to Star Wars, I was getting into other things too. Br, to be honest with you, you guys are going to look at this as being kind of stupid. I used to be really into it.

to like Robin Hood and read books about Robin Hood and then like the fucking family tree of Robin Hood and all of that stuff. That's not dumb at all. Yeah. I used to read like a ton of books about all of that stuff.

And so by the time, I was into the Star Wars stuff and I had, you know, a little replica lightsabers and all of that stuff, some of that stuff, you know what I mean? But more than anything,

what I collected were Star Wars books and comics. and of all the stuff that I'm into, I really didn't have that, like, I don't have like a Captain America Shield or a Grogle. Wait, did you have a lightsaber growing up, though? I had something else that I have to draft. All right. So, well, not going to spoil it.

So my last pick, if I'm going to go for like the iconic murderer's row, this toy, if you weren't around, it is hard to describe the nuclear explosion. This was like crack in the 80s to white, folks like, motherfuckers thought they were going to come up off this shit. Beanie babies.

Yeah. Were... I think you win this draft, Charles, because this is, this is tough. Beanie babies, you would go everywhere. There would be beanie babies.

You had to collect the right ones. Motherfuckers like, I'm going to become a millionaire with my Beanie Baby collection. Like, there is not, there is not a collectible toy that I remember doing that much damage

as the fucking beanie babies. If you Google, if you Google Princess Diana and hit the space bar, the first thing that comes up is Beanie Baby after that. That's how big those Beanie Babies were. So here's the thing about Beanie Babies.

Beanie Babies are very important. I would never consider Beanie Babies to be an iconic toy because by the time I knew Beanie Babies, it was all grown people who had them. It was like all, it was all grown people that was collecting the Beanie Babies

to turn to turn the profit on the Beanie of the baby. You know what I? I mean, the Beanie Baby was a phenomenon. You know what I mean? So it was definitely, great pick, great pick. But I would never think of it as a toy because by the time I knew of the Beanie Baby, it was like my mother and my aunt and them that was trying to give Beanie Babies to come up.

See, but what I would do with the Beanie Babies is because, like, they had these, like, little pellets in them. So they were kind of hard. If you balled them up and threw them at somebody, that shit would hurt. So I'd just throw them at people's head. Like, they were like rock solid. And then when they, when they made them, they made them, them in the collector's items, they would have like that little, like, plastic, like,

encasing for the tag because the tag was, like, the most, the most valuable part of it, which is insane. No, like, regardless of whether or not people thought they were a good toy, they were, like, a cultural moment for a good long while. What is, what is our equivalent now today of just, like, toys that people think they're going to come off, come off of, like, fungo pops for sure. Yeah, funco pops, definitely. But, but, like, they never really pop.

They just keep going. They just not even close. People just keep grabbing them up. So I just have several toys that I'm going to do some toy shoutouts after the draft is over. No, we should. Let's have a whole segment where we just go, these aren't toys that we, these are toys we played with but couldn't draft. I want to draft one specific toy, but I have to draft another one that hasn't been drafted, right? Because when you talk about something that changed everything, you have to talk about in a

And there's one specific toy that changed everything. Before, you used to go to the store, okay, and you would see a little hard, plastic, clear, sometimes green or red, a gun. And then you would take it and you would go somewhere and you would fill it up with water. And then you would shoot it at somebody. And it shot maybe three feet. You know what I mean? It shot me a little bit and you'd have to continuously go back

and pretty sure the hard plastic case would crack. And then the gun was gone, whatever, on a hot day. And then one day, my big cousin says, bro, it's a water gun that you reload like an actual gun and it shoots like 15 feet. I was like, you lying. I was like, you lying. There ain't no way it's a water gun that could shoot 15 feet.

And it was. It was called the Super Soaker. We were living in California at this time, and I was able to get a Super Soaker and terrorized the house and the neighborhood from distance. The water gun, period, was never the same. Yes. ever after the Super Soaker came out.

It was a step forward in the innovation of toys. I remember I shot my sister and the side of the cheek with it. And I got beat down like I've never been beat down before. So we'll talk about the other toys in the second, but I have to draft the Super Soaker. Shout out. Black man created the Super Soaker. The Black man. NASA engineer.

NASA engineer. Black brother. Lonnie Johnson. Give it up to Lottani who created the Super Soca. So I have to draft it. Have to draft the Super Soc. Good pick. Good fucking pick.

That's a great pick. Jomey, what's your last pick? Oh, my last picks. Charles kind of brought it at the end there. Kind of brought it at the end there. Were you picking Bini Babies? Did you think it was going to be on the board? No, no, I mean, like between Star Wars, Beanie Babies, Barbie.

Like, you got to like, you got a murderers row up there. So I got to lock it on this last pick. And I'm honestly shocked that it's still here. But there was a time when this was the most popular joy in not only America, the world. And everybody had to get a hand. I wanted these Furbies. Ooh. Ah.

A Furby. Yeah. I don't know what a Furby is. I feel like I know. It's like a little, it looks like a little. It's like a little gremlin thing. Yeah. A little gremlin bird.

The little beaks. Yeah. Yeah. A cultural moment for sure. Like, people were locked on on the Furbies. I remember we had some at the crib. I remember I would go to my cousin's house Thanksgiving and Christmas and all them. And they would have Furbies too.

Like, everybody. Everybody had Furbies, man. What are the things that, like, brought Furby's back to my memory was, I don't know if you guys, probably haven't seen this. There's a show, there's a movie on Netflix called Mitchell v. The Machines. Great movie. Great movie. Yes.

Great movie. There's a scene with Furbies and, like, they have this little language. We're just like, this is the funniest thing. There's this big ass Furby that comes out. And it's just like, it's great. Van, when you got time, after watching Fast X at 2 a.m., go watch Mitchell v. The Machine's, I'm sure you'll love it.

But it's great. Furby's iconic toy. I gotta have it. God. I'm looking at the Furby right now, bro. I'm not going to lie, bro. The Furby look like this devil worshipers, bro. Yeah.

Why are you so? I don't know. It's scary. That's why the Seed a Mitchell versus the machine is so funny. Toys, toys got, toys got, they got creepy in the 90s. They like in the 90s, they were, they were getting a little while. Yeah. Yeah.

But these are crazy, though. Like, they were, the reason why I wasn't as familiar with the Furby, but it has reached a level of ubiquity to where you know what they are. And that's kind of the mark of like a classic toy. You know what I mean? All right. Steve, last pick. Make us proud. Make us proud.

I don't know, man. I'm excited. Regardless of what I have left on my board, like, I'm proud of these picks, but like they're going to be Jory LaForge picks as well. We don't know about that. We can see. Okay. This.

Hmm. Okay. All right. I'll say, I'll say that like these came to me like as part of like a, like I would get these at the dentist. and this is like a really, really big thing that I was always looking forward to. I don't know if you'd ever been to the doctor's appointment, like a doctor's or like a appointment that you would have to go to and they offer you like toys at like the end or whatever and

like you pick it out of like a big like toy crate or something like that. Whenever I went to the dentist and every time that I came back from it, there's like a big blue like treasure chest of these things. and I would always pick out these little constructible paper and styrofoam planes called Airfix A-I-R-F-I-X

and they were like little like fighter planes and they were weighted at the front and I would fucking love them every time this is a personal one for me I don't even know if you fucking know about these but Airfix were my shit I love them so much little paper planes

fuck out of you ski pick again come on bro be serious be serious I feel like we get all here he came out in like 1960 what do you want for me

I don't know like dog with the magic eight ball or some shit so we can move on man I feel like we get on here all the time and we're like man

we're gonna have a great draft it's gonna be cool it'll be great and then we just end up I gotta be me I gotta be me Like, I don't understand. Like, Vladay Divac shows up in place of Steve and starts making picks.

Wow. I will say this. Airfix came out in 1939, bro. Y'all! I'm saying, bro, just to let y'all know. Between the American girl dolls and the Airfix? Obviously, we drafted with David Con on here, bro. Fucking LaForge.

But it, but it, they got Airfix. He's been around for a long time. Oh, well, actually, they're defunct. They went out of business in 2006. But they were around for a long time, bro. Long time. Long time. Cars, aircraft, ships, commercial vehicles, military vehicles.

And they were, like, in these little plastic bags, and they would have, like, you would just, like, construct them out of your little things. I don't know. I was just, like, building shit with my edge sketch and stuff. It takes a lot of, bro. When you guys look at it, like, these, the Steve's picks have a lot to do with Steve as, like, a constructor, a builder. of things.

You can see that in the picks of his story. Steve is a Roos. I had one more that's like way too specific that like you, I know you'd grill me that like this is

oh this is some rich kid shit but like I'll talk about it in the end here. Not fifth picks. These are not fifth picks. Let's call these like shadow round picks. You got 30 seconds to be like this is the one in my heart

that I wanted to pick but I just couldn't. Steve go. What was it? All right. This was called the Wild Planet Bintage Radio DJ set. This is.

is it was like a little like tape deck that you could like turn to the 1600 dial on your AM radio and you could be a DJ with a microphone and a tiny soundboard and like I literally credit this with what I wanted to do like for my whole life wild planet vintage radio DJ set uh was like one of the greatest toys and coolest shit that I've ever seen in my life. All right Steve keep going give some more bro you you you son to get on the nigger nerves now. Like you need that's his shot. You get one. You get one.

Jomi, what's your shadow round pick? It's not going to be an official one, but this is the one in your heart. You're like, I really wanted to pick this. Nah, man. I'm just, I didn't even know if I can say it, bro. I love Steve.

Steve really is Chicago boy because he draft like Michael Jordan. Easy bake-up. Easy makeup, yeah. I thought Steve was picking the easy-baker. No, no. Like, we didn't mess with that. We cooked real food in my house.

Steve, you didn't fucking easy-based. You don't mess with an easy-based. You don't mess with an easy-e-based. EasyBank oven, but the fucking DJ set works. Yeah. That feeds people. I mean, the DJ set is a cool toy. I mean, Google that.

Like, it looks fucking awesome. It's just a little tape deck. And it had like a applause sound effect and you had a microphone. And like if you were in like a 30 foot range of a radio, then you could turn it to the ass end of the AM dial and you're there. There you go. Okay, Van, what's your shadow round pick? My shadow round pick is one that's close to my heart.

the sword of omens from the Thundercats Thundercats! Oh, the Thundercats sword, okay. The Thundercats sword, which was just, if you had that, like there are a bunch of different toys that that came out from shows, but the sword of omens, Lion O'S sword,

from the time when the Thundercats was really popping, that was a must-have item in your, toy sort of arsenal during that time, man. So my shadow round pick are basically I'm going to shout out all the cartoons that came out because essentially, like, people don't understand like the Power Ranger toys that they had, the little flippy head shit. Oh, yeah, no. A mac, like, was just, oh, right, when they would, like, transform from, like, their normal faces

to the, like, helmets. Hell, yeah. Teenage View and Ninja Turtle toys, fucking off the chain. bro. I was like, yo, what's happening? Like, TN's me and Ninja Turtle toys were so cool. They were great. He, I want to, he, man. I had Castle Grey Skull.

I had, oh, I also want to shout out a toy that was another one more toy. I mean, shout out with my nigga Teddy Ruxman, too. I fuck with you deep, bro. But shout out to one toy that was a legitimate phenomenon that we did not pick in this draft. I should have thought somebody would pick. You guys, maybe a little too young. Tickle me Elmo. Oh, tickle me Elmo.

Ticklemy Elmo was crazy. It was crazy, but it's just... Tickle Me Elmo was just... People were selling their soul for the Tickle Me Elmo. Yeah, that's true. Which I was like, that was the first time where I was a kid and I'm like, what the fuck are people on about with this toy? No, Tickle Me Elmo was hilarious.

No, it's annoying as shit. Like, I was seven years old and I was like, this is a dumb toy. Why are you being their minds for this? We didn't stop doing it. Like, we would be like, once we were done with it, we were just like, let's see if we can, like, destroy it. Well, I tell you is what, Tickle Me Elmo, the, to have fun and cuddle up with the coolest

Sesame Street character. It's certainly no Air Fix 1917 German dropaway bomber. So, yeah. Those are fun, man. I have fun. Here, let's recap our whole draft, and then Arjuna can he pop back in to be a, you know,

tell us who you think won. So Steve, Nerf guns, American Girl Dolls, etch-a-sketch-sketch, and Air Fix. Jomey had Legos, Tomogachi, Rubik's Cube, Furby. Van had Transformers, Power Wheel, G.I. Joe, Super Soaker. And I had Barbie Hot Wheels, the Star Wars action figures, Beanie Babies.

Arjuna, as a outside party, who do you think of got the strongest draft? I think there were three good drafts in this... Good squad. Steve, I'm sorry. You know, Arjuna... You go off a little bit with the later picks.

Charles, I think yours is hard to be. with just some of the franchises you kind of have in there. Van, I think with Transformers and G.I. Joe, there's some good ones. I'm going to go to Charles. I think you're going to win it.

Now, our Junick, do what you do, and pick who is going first, second, third, and fourth for our toy, no, our best movie explosions. Okay, picking first is Charles. Oh, hell, you. Second, van,

third, Steve. Okay. And fourth is joking. All right. Damn. How am I going to start us off? You know what? I'm not going to go in the nerd realm. I'm going to go into the the explosion part of this movie is like a catharsis. It is the thing that you are waiting for. And when it happens, oh boy, does it happen? I have to go when the bus hits the airplane and speed. Keanu, that shit was. It is so, like, it is just, you feel so much because the whole movie, you're like, damn, are they going to make it?

They're going to make it? And when that shit finally explodes, dog, that shit, oh, man, it hits so. I was like, damn, I should go for a nerd pick, but nah, speed is a fucking phenomenal movie. And that explosion is so dope. I'm going to speed. It's a good one. Speed. Okay.

So this is, I'm going with, I'm going with personally the explosions that admit the most to me, okay? Um, there are probably better explosions from this movie, but this is the most chilling, chilling, chilling, chilling, terrifying explosion in movie history to me. I'm going with the nuclear holocaust from Terminator to Judgment Day. Oh, we she falls asleep. That's on my list. That's, that's a crazy. On my list. It's so good.

Never in my life have I fucking. fucking coward more than being at the age where I can understand the stakes and watching the skin melt off of goddamn Sarah Connor's face as she watches

her other self destroyed by a nuclear explosion in Los Angeles on Judgment Day. To me this is the greatest action movie of all time and that is the most signature explosion of that movie and a movie that has a couple of great explosions by the way.

That's amazing. And like the second worst part of that is there's a second person in that explosion that like is like they're in like a fetal position and they just evaporate. Dust. It's crazy to see. All right. Steve. It's a great big. First pick.

All right. My first pick. An explosion that I was spoiled on because this was in the local news when I was growing up in Chicago. But it was an old candy factory that was going to be used for a little movie called The Dark Night. And it doubles as Gotham General Hospital. Damn.

That the Joker blows up in a single take in a single shot that was like one of the most incredible things that I had ever seen. And like I'd only seen it from like the helicopter, but like I kind of like from helicopter shots from news cameras when they were filming it. And then when I see it in the movie, it's fucking insane. Everything is perfectly executed about that. Keith Ledger thinks that he didn't trigger the thing. And then they just, like, delayed it for a second just to get his, like, delayed reaction.

So fucking good. An amazing, amazing explosion. It's such a good explosion. It's a great explosion. That's, to me, that's, that's one of my favorites. That's one of my favorites. That's way high up on the list right there of explosion. Just a cool explosion, too.

It's a funny explosion. And because he's like, he's like messing with the thing. Messing with the thing. And then it's a real practical effect of them actually exploding the two. standing right there. It surprised me in the movie theater, even though I knew it was coming. The first time I was laughing,

but also scared, I'm like, oh, fuck. Dog, that's a great pick. Good job, Steve. You're redeeming yourself. Jome, you have two picks. Where are you going? All right.

Let's start big. I'm going to go with the explosion in Mad Max Fury Road. Damn it. Gas tanker. Yeah. Damn. Gas tanker.

off. That's, I mean, that's legit seeing that, man, they, they was, they was, there was, there was in a bag with that one. There was in a bag, uh, with that one. Um, and with my second pick, yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go with, uh, our guy, Roland Emmerich, blowing up the Capitol. Great. And, uh, Independence Day. Blown up the White House. The White House. The White House. White House. Yeah, that's all White Borders with the white people, you know.

Is Independence Day, this was like the biggest movie, one of the biggest movies of my childhood. Do people have respect for Independence Day still? Or has it gotten dinged a little bit? Not really. Hell no. I mean, it doesn't get its due, really? Not really. I mean, the movie, the movie, to be honest with you, the movie came out and it was a huge

fucking big deal. And it's still an awesome movie. But people started taking Independence Day apart like weeks after it came out. Like just, I remember, I remember I was there. I remember people going, the movie was cool, Will was awesome, Jeff Goldblum was funny, but the movie doesn't really make sense. But it's still a huge blockbuster that was, is an awesome summer movie.

The type of summer movie that I might say they don't make them like that no more. It's a big cool summer movie with cool stars for you to go have a good time to we're going to beat the aliens in the end. Pretty awesome. Back to me. I can't not pick this I can't when I when you see the death star blow up

damn that's like that's cinema like I you know when you see when you see the death star blow up that explosion where it like it's just it comes up like a softball and then like it's that Saturn ring that like shoots across all the ships

it's the craziest shit I'd ever seen but I like it's why you see the movie because you see the death star blow up I mean How many times have they blown up a Death Star at this point? Because they do it again in Return of the Jedi. Several times.

They're getting in Force Awakens. Like, Eric's the Gold Star Wars Project is still chasing high. Guess what? They like blowing shit up. It's great. Like, you know, I love the explosion. I was trying to think of which Star Wars explosion would be the explosion. And it's got to be this one, right? Because like...

I'm talking about the first Death Star explosion. I mean, I don't know if the second one really explodes in that same way. Like, I... It explodes, but it's not as, because the climaxes of these movies are different. The climax of A New Hope is the explosion of the Death Star, whereas the climax of Jedi is the death of Palpatine. True. So, I mean, I'm sure the Death Star explodes, but it's not the biggest deal, the thing that happens.

Right. Yeah. No, it's the emotional release for sure in the first Star Wars where, like, he just, like, he fires it, and then he makes the shot, he's like, and then he like pulls up, and then the whole, and everybody's flying off and then it just blows up. Like, that's incredible. I will say that, like, does it look a little cooler in return to the Jedi? I'd say, yeah.

But I think that explosion in the first Star Wars is, like, incredible. Right. So I'm going to tell, I'm keeping it in the late 80s, early 90s, and I'm going to go with what I think is the second biggest action movie of all time, the second best action. Damn, I know what you're arguing. right around the corner here it happened Avenue of the Stars

Nakatomi Plaza it's the explosion of Nakatolli we jump off he's got the goddamn what do you have he had the fire holes around him you know it's the culmination it had to happen of everything

What does he say Geronimo motherfucker? Yeah he jumps off there just one of the defining explosions of action movie history You guys let me get T2 and diehard. That's Van. And die hard. You guys aren't on your shit.

Man, let us cook. You're not on your shit. You're not on your shit. T2 and die hard, brother. A lot of game left. A lot of game left. Just the fuck up. Who's who?

Who's drafted next? All right. So I got two. You know what? Here's the thing. I'm just going to go with my heart. On this one, I know it's not on anybody's board. this is one of my top five movies of all time.

We're going into the animated realm. The explosion, when they essentially fucking make a complete new universe in Akira, is so... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even think about that. Like, it is one of the most beautiful things and scariest things that have ever been animated. Akira is a perfect movie. And this is probably one of the scariest explosions I've ever seen,

admitted to vote. It plays with that idea of like an explosion so great that it's silent. Yes. See like the awe-inspiring like just black hole and then exploding outwards and then sound comes later. And it's like white and it's basically absorbing and the silence all everything it's weak. I got to go, Akira. Very good. Very good. Akira might be Akira, Akira might be one of the greatest movies of all time. I might want top 10, top 15 greatest movies ever. Like, brer, so Akira is it's a transfixing, hypnotic, cinematic experience, right? Akira is just, I know it's so cliche

to like be in love with Akira, but it's just an amazing, an amazing enthralling and grossing. I love it. I love it. That's a great choice to me. All right. So Akira, here's the thing.

All of my picks, I didn't realize, yeah. All right. You know what? I'm going double key. Now I'm going double Keanu. I'm going the first Matrix. Where the helicopter flies into the plane, but it's like

water and then Trinity jumps out of the explosion and she is so fucking fire, bro. I don't care. I'll tell you what the best part of that is. It's because she's flying into the screen and you think that it's going to cut but glass breaks on the front of the frame so that you're looking at it out of the window.

So that's fucking amazing. Yeah, so I have to, is it? But damn, now I have two fuck it. I have two Keanu movies. I don't give a fuck. Whatever. Whatever. It's the fucking Matrix. What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm going with the Matrix. Go with the Matrix. Who, what the? You're going with the Matrix. That's, you got to do it, bro.

Keanu has had some great explosions, bro. This shit explode in John Wick? The first one? Did anything explode in John Wick? I don't think so. I don't think so. I was about to say, is anybody going to cheat? Be like, this was an emotional explosion. Is anybody trying to try?

Or like an argument. I would like something like that. Who's turning this? It's your turn. Okay. So, you know, I'm going to take a huge... Now, let me ask you guys a question about this. Because is this an explosion or is this destruction?

Well, you'll have to hear it. Sanctuary assaults Avengers compound and end game. the Avengers compound explodes, and it's a huge, crazy, it's a big boom, and everything is falling apart, and we get three or four levels. I think that I went and rewatch it

because I think that you get three or four levels of destruction where it's, I think there's never been a greater sort of aftermath of an explosion when your hero, are trapped beneath the rubble. And they got to get out. And it's one of the ones I most remember.

It's like, God damn. Like, canopy, canopy, canopy, you know, all of that stuff that happens right after it. And for that reason, I had it in there. But then I started to think, I was going to ask you guys, I mean, there's definitely an explosion there. But is that more of, like, destruction than explosion? I think it's destruction.

Because I wouldn't, I feel like it's a bit of a, like, What happens is like an implosion because like the entire building just sinks into a crater. I mean, he shoots a missile into it and it explodes. You know what I mean? So essentially it's kind of the same thing. Well, no, because in the Matrix, they planted explosives, did they not? And they blew up. They did.

Right. So he, it's kind of, I wasn't think, I think of it as an explosion. Do you guys think of it as an explosion? I can. I go. Yeah, I'm cool with it. But here's the thing. Are you pandering?

then? Pandering, how? You got an Avengers Endgame. You know what I'm saying? I've got Dark Night and Star Wars here. What are you talking about? Why is that a pandering? Steve is the most pandering of all of us.

Yeah, why am I pandering? It's Avengers Endgame. Because if you put Avengers, we, come on, we could go back. Anytime you put Avengers End Game on a draft, it's like, it gives you an extra couple points. This is my third pick. I was just saying. You know what I'm saying?

I think it's ruining an almost like, In terms of your pick, going from Terminator 2 to die hard to Avengers endgame. What? The fact that you're trying to talk me out of it tells me it's a great pick. I'm loving it. Avengers in game. Sanctuary is attack.

Ant Man blows up. He turned small real quick. I don't understand how he did it. Look, boom. I thought he was murked right there, bro. I thought he was cooked. I was like, they killed that man. They killed that man.

There you go. That's my choice. That's my third one. Amazing. Steve, where you go? All right, Van picked a bit of like body horror when he picked The Terminator. And this is a very important explosion to me because I am a massive David Cronenberg fan. And one of his best movies in body horror is the movie called Scanners.

Scanners, baby. Does anybody know about the movie called Scanners? Steve, to me, this is a draft winning pick. I might even go bullshit you. I'm not even going to bullshit you. because to me, this takes the idea of the... I'm not taking...

Steve, do your thing. To me, this is a draft winning pick. The exploding head in the movie scanners, it might be one of the greatest practical effects I have ever seen committed to film. A man's head just thoroughly explodes

and it is a disgusting, massive collection of, like, red gelatin and fake skin. It's like, don't eat before, during, or after you see this. but it's an incredible effect. You could watch it in slow motion and it's the most fascinating,

perfectly executed, like head exploding I have ever seen in my life, all done in real time. A real mannequin was made. It's like the best thing ever. I'm certain you've seen it, but it's one of the best explosions ever since. That's gross.

Have you guys seen scanners? I haven't seen scanners. I'm watching the clip right now. Y'all know I can't watch no horror movies like that. I can't do that shit. Scanners is so good. I can't do it. is dope.

I can't. I can't do horror movies. I just can't do them. That's such, no. That's so bad. They're too scary, bro. I will, like, it will ruin my fucking week. I can't go to sleep.

I can't do them. I'm sorry, Steve. You got to get on Coronenberg, man. Yeah, Scanners is great. That's a great pick. That's a, when the graphic comes out on this and people see that, Steve, that might be an Anshala Forge, bro. That's a great pick.

I might have lost the toy strap, but I think I'm winning this one. I don't think we can put this one on the, the graphic man. Why not? No, that's this, it's disgusting. It's, dude, have you seen it? Have you seen the head explosion in scanners, Charles? Look it up right now.

Well, Charles, I want your live reaction. I'm watching it. I'm going to send the link right now. I'm looking it up right now. Yeah, it's, nah, man. Come on, bro. Come on. I'm a young Christian man.

No, you let, nah. Nah, not for a lot. No, it's amazing. That's an amazing explosion. I don't know how I'm going to make the cup, bro. I'm happy for you, Steve. Like, you killing this draft. You coming back strong.

I'm really proud of you, Steve. That's a great pick. Jomey, you got two more picks. Where are you going? That's one picks, man. So, Van, you mentioned die hard, the first die hard. And I would wager while that's a great explosion. It's not the best explosion in the series, man.

Best explosion in the series. Die Hard 2. When he's on the side of the plane. Oh. And he's got the, he's got to open the gas. tank and he opens the gas tank and he falls off and he takes the lighter and he lights the gas and as they're taking off he goes yippie cayet motherfucker and the whole plane explodes you like that shit that's it right there man i'm not going to lie that was the first die hard movie i ever seen

and i was like this the coolest this the coolest thing i've ever seen like i like like like i need to see every single one of these i love this this is my whole identity from now going forward like incredible. I love that hard too. And that scene right there, that's real, that's real cinema. Is this the first draft? I don't want to jinx it yet. But is this the first draft we've had where there's, hasn't been a Jory Lafort yet from anybody?

A lot of game left. Steve. A lot of game left. You're doing so good right now. All right, Joe. Great pick. What's your number four? Man, I'm between two minds, but since we're pandering. There's the scene...

It's not a pander. We're all pandering. Look, it's okay. As long as we admit it, we're all being honest and open within ourselves, it's okay. Right? The scene in Iron Man, the first Iron Man, when he gets knocked over by the tank and he falls down to the pit, he gets up. He dodges the tank missile,

shoots the tank. The music starts playing. Dunna-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-na. Tank explodes while he's walking away from him. Oh, yeah. Come on, man. That is a pretty good, cool guys, don't look at the explosions thing. Yeah, I was about to make fun of this big, but I'm just like, no, I remember when I saw that in theaters.

I was just like, this shit is tight as hell. Tight. It's tight. It's tight. That's my last pick. I'm walking with Iron Man. Dodge the dangl. Good pick.

Good pick. Steve, last pick. Come on, man. Land this plane for us. Oh, begging. Got this, man. You got this. this has been a great show

on the piece of Steve this is going to sound a little hokey because I don't know who else is Van you've probably seen this has anybody seen the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Commando Yeah

There's a moment when He's at the finale Where the entire industrial Like military compound That he is in explodes And it's like three buildings All of amazing facades That have great explosions

Commando is first of all a hilarious movie. It's super funny. It's super funny. It's basically when Arnold Schwarzenegger was doing all of those shitty one-liners with like puns and everything. Like that's probably the one that like is his best one where like he's making fun of himself almost. Commando's a great movie. At the end in the finale, there's a compound explosion. And if you were to Google this or YouTube it, it's just Commando Compound Explosion.

Incredible effects of like you see barrels flying up. you see beams and mortars like it looks like you see the inside of a building come outside and it's one of the coolest like practical explosions that I've seen a building blow up for in quite a long time just for the sheer amount of debris on screen and the amount of angles that it got really really good explosion in my opinion that's what I that's what I love let me tell you about commando so there's a part in commando where Schwarzenegger essentially gets captured and he's on the plane to go back to wherever he's going. His plane's taken off from L-A-X.

Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando jumps off of the plane taking off from L-A-X. Oh, yeah. He gets out of the bottom of the plane through the bathroom. He gets up to go use the bathroom or whatever. He gets out through the bottom of the plane and gets down there. And as the plane is taking off, he escapes the plane by jumping out of the bottom of the plane into the swamp land area around LAX.

Commandos ridiculous. It is stupid, but it's so funny and fun. It's funny and fun. And as a kid, it was super fucking cool. Like, Elisa Milano played his daughter, and he's got to save his daughter. And he was just, people say, and this is a challenge to Bill Simmons, what I'm about to say right now. is Bill sometimes is down on the superhero movie. But my criticism of him being down on the superhero movie

is that there have always been superhero movies. Because all of those guys, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, and all of those unkillable guy, they're all superheroes. They're all superheroes and the crazy shit that happens towards them. It's all superhero movies. All of them. It's a bunch of...

Yeah, uncillable mammoths. Like Arnold, pick you up, throw you 50 feet into some spikes. These got special powers. If you go watch that scene, watch that scene right now of him jumping out of the moving plane. It's so ridiculous. It's so stupid. And I forgot that this was also the movie where he gets into a fight with a dude at the

hotel room and he punches him and the bad guy's like, fuck you asshole. And then he punches the other guy. He's like, fuck you asshole. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's a superhero movie. Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, I like a man.

All right, is it my turn now? Yeah, your last turn. I'm going to choose another comic book movie to pander some more, but it's a comic book movie that no one gives credit for being a comic book movie because it comes from a graphic novel. And the entire plot of this movie is actually based around this huge explosion that has to happen at the end of the movie. It's based around a mysterious hero in a mysterious mask.

I know what you're picking. A mysterious hero and a mysterious mask. It is an ultra-violent. It is an ultra-political and an ultra-dispopian film that for some reason we forgot about as the MCU started to push its way into our subconscious and into our, I guess, regular conscience. but I'm taking the Parliament explosion from V for Vendetta. Yeah.

Which is not only a great explosion in terms of what it does, but it is also maybe thematically the strongest explosion of any of these, because it means so, so much to what was going on. How is V for Vendetta age movie-wise? Have you watched it recently? I think it's gotten better. And the reason why I think it's going to, gotten better is because some of the stuff that was going on with it at the time was a little

maybe, I mean, we weren't in the golden age of thinking everything was okay. It is a post-9-11 movie, but I think the movie has gotten a little bit more poignant with kind of the way things are on, the way people kind of look at stuff. Like, you know, the MCU did take the shine off of films like that a little bit, but I watched it not too long ago, and I thought that the movie aged a little bit better. What about you? Oh, I have not seen the movie since it came I will say, reading it as like a little, B for Vendetta the Comic as a little kid definitely did radicalize me in a lot of ways.

I was just like, I'm too young reading this. If a movie and a comic was pretty edge lord for its time. Here's the thing. There's a lot of stuff that has not each well about the movie and the comic. Like, let's be clear. Let's just say the scene of him shaving Natalie Bortman's head. It's not great.

Not great. Oh, you mean in terms of stuff like that? I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's super bad. Yeah, that's probably bad. Yeah. Great pick. I, for my last pick, I'm surprised.

It's still on the board. I just came up with this one. I would argue this is actually the most iconic comic book movie explosion of all time. It is something that you might, you will see every day. People who have never seen this movie have seen this explosion. And it is the funniest explosion, I think, on the list. I'm talking about. the Green Goblin blowing up

Obby's house in the original Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's funny. That's meme to death. I laugh every single time I watch that movie. Sam, he's a sicko.

I love it. He's like, and boom. Boom, bro. I see that. And he's like, finish it. I seen that with the... Green Gobel went too far, bro. He went too far.

I seen that clip with people like, well, Barbie watchers. when the Oppahyheimer's next door. When Opin-Ira blows up, yeah. No, this, it gets funnier every single time. There's not a single time I've seen this where I'm just like, this isn't the funniest thing I've ever seen any comic movie. So yeah, I'll go with Aunt May. Bro, Green Goblin is hard on an Aunt May, bro.

Green Goblin is a fucking, bro. Green Goblin is the fucking, he is, he didn't, he didn't really, he didn't get that first Aunt May, but he didn't really fucked over two Aunt Mays, bro. He got two different Aunt Mays, bro. that he fucked over. Here's what's worse. I think this one is worse because this old lady was praying, bro. You know how sick in the head you have to be to explode to old granny's house when she's praying to the Lord. Dog, I love this. Sam Ramey's got a problem with religion because Eddie Brock's asking

Jesus to kill Peter Parker in the third one. That's real hate right there. What is Eddie Brock thinking, bro? Please kill Peter Parker, Jesus. Oh, like, please kill him. And Jesus is going to be like, hey, Eddie, you got a point, man. He got to go. Yeah, what? I'm not sure that you have a good relationship with the Lord, bro. That's not the way that works.

That's how it works. Maybe he and Jesus got a little something. Maybe they're tight. That's his boy, you see. So what Eddie, like, Annie just sliding on Peter Parker real quick. She's like, hey, don't say no more, man. We write that dawn, baby. I got you, bro.

That's right. Don't worry about him. That's why Eddie Brock is my man, because I've lived in New York for so long, and I've never hated somebody enough to walk into a Catholic church and be like, yo, let me just pray on it. Like, let me just pray on it

right here in the pew. Like, you got literally, literally prayed for his downfall. Yo, Sam, is the goat. All right,

yo, so I went first. I had the bus hits the plane in speed. We have the final explosion in Akira, the helicopter explosion in the Matrix,

and green goblin blowing up Aunt May's house and Spider-Man. Van had nuclear Holocaust and T2, the Nakatomi Plas explosion in die hard,

Avengers compound, explosion, Implosion in Avengers Endgame, then the Parliament explosion B for Vendetta. Steve had Gotham Central from the Dark Night, Death Star from a New Hope, exploding head and scanners, and the compound explosion in Commando. It Jomey had the gas tanker from Fury Road, the White House explosion from Independence Day, plane explosion in Die Hard 2, and then the tank explosion in Iron Man. Yo, Arjuna, come back.

Who won this draft? Come on, Arjuna. Steve, I think he redeemed yourself. Hell yeah. Steve went hard. I think you got it. I think you got it. I don't, Van has T2 and Dyer.

I think Van, I think Van, I think Van, it's gonna also be in the running through this one. I think it's, I think it's those two that are going to be. I, I,

I, I, I don't, I don't, that was my ace in the hole. That was my, like, I don't like when we do this,

because it influences the audience, but I got to be all real. The scanners pick is like nuts, bro. Like, that's just like a really inventive, you know what I mean? Like,

that's nuts, bro. That's nuts. That's a, that's a, I don't know how I'm going to put that on the graphic. But the unexploded mannequin there and then they'll know what the rest is. Jesus. It's grim. Real quick, Arjuna pop back on. Let's have a real, real quick little conversation about the state of the secret invasion situation.

What are your thoughts about the midnight pivot that's happened from secret invasion? What are your thoughts? We always got to We've always got to lead With our hearts Right Gotta leave with what we're most interested in And we're spoken

The MCU needed to be benched Like Arjuna Has the MCU been performing On this On this basketball team of content Or are we just letting The legend status You know

I mean yeah I think I think the stuff hasn't been Been where it needs to be It's not It's not where it needs to be Just say it sucks bro. Everybody, every single time you ask

somebody about the MCU is like they talk about their mama. You know what? I will say this. I will say this. I kind of like episode five. Like the last few weeks have been tough. Last few weeks have been tough. But I was like, Homegirls. Homegirls just like, she shoots the motherfucker and she's just like,

oh, this is what they say on the podcast all about man and did it. I was like, talk, who's writing this shit, bro? This is terrible. Terrible. Also, Olivia Coleman is having fun. Olivia Coleman was great. fun. Olivia Coleman was great. So I have to ask this really quick. This don't make sense to me. I was watching the episode. So Olivia Coleman goes and she shoots a motherfucker, he becomes green.

And she's just like, oh, like, obviously he's a scroll. The scene before, why couldn't Fury just do the same thing and be like to the Secret Service? This motherfucker is a scroll, bro. We'll talk about it next week. How's that sound? I also have a, I'm also going to put an idea behind you guys, excuse me, put an idea towards you guys. I was thinking about what the greatest year in superhero movie history is. I was thinking about what the greatest year is because I was thinking about the fact that Iron Man and the Dark Night came out in the same year. And then I was like, it's 2008 the greatest year, but I had some people make some really strong arguments for other years that could possibly

be as great or greater than 2008 in terms of superhero movies. Oh, I already know the year. I already know the year where I'm like, it might be 2018. 2018 is one that they came with. It might be 2018. 2018 is one that they came with. 2018, just think about it. Maybe we'll do, maybe not a draft, but a discussion where we crown a king.

What's the greatest, single greatest year? superhero movie history. You want to know what would be the better conversation? Not the greatest, but the most important. Because I could go either way between 2008 and 2018 for different reasons. So not the greatest, but most important? You think most important is better?

To superhero storytelling, like what is the year that you're just like, without this year, we don't get anything? You guys didn't like 2016 with Batman versus Superman, the Donna Justice, and the first suicide squad? they make the cut. First of all, I like Batman versus Superman

Donna Justice. No, you do not. You like the ultimate edition. I do. I like the ultimate edition. Yeah. You guys are a bunch of a snob, non-superhero loving motherfuckers. All right.

The movie's not great, but it's not like fucking terrible. You lost me at Lex Luthor's jar of piss. I'm sorry. Oh, Lex Luthor's great in that. Anyway, putting candy in people's mouths. They're so toxic. But this was a lot of fun in the draft.

We'll do secret invasion next week. I'm sorry, Charles. We have to do secret invasion next week. Don't apologize to me. Apologize all listeners right watching that shit. That's a wrap. Follow us on socials, instant Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, save Jomey's job, and press Elon Musk. Programming reminders on Thursday, Jessica Clemens will have a new Easter Egg breakdown video pod on Secret Invasion Episode 5.

Make sure to check that out. Happy to have Jessica. On Friday, the House of R will be giving you part three of their doctor who, Primer. Primer on Doctor Who is amazing. On Sunday, the Mint Boys are back. Giving you their instant reactions to Barbie. Barbarino, which looks like it's on pace to hit 100-milly this weekend. I thought it was 110 last time I checked.

That's crazy, bro. That's crazy. Warner's loving that. You're going to get all kinds of doll movies now. You might get a doll movie called Addie, the American Girl Story. Yo, can you imagine, you have an American girl doll universe. 12 years of Adi?

The AGU. 12 years of Adi and you're men. Bro, they win an Oscar, bro. They win an Oscar. If they do, if they do, but they have to do, it has to be like Barbie. It has to be like Addy escaped slavery and then she became a doll.

Or is she, Eddie Unchained. It becomes a doll in the real world. They go win the Oscar. If this was a stop mooch, joint and it was like the real dolls. So you have to see like Addy like like like with the rest of the American girl dolls.

With the American girl dolls on the plantation? Yeah, I'm telling you, but they will win the Oscar, bro. It's a rap. There's no way. It's a rap, bro. I'm telling you, bro, straight up, bro. Zendaya is Adi.

Like it's just they're going to win. They're going to win the Oscar. I'm telling you. All right. That's Sunday for the men, boys. Our producer is Steve, the architect, Alman. Jomey and dinner on our social. Hashtag Milkman Jomey.

An additional production from our Juno Rom, Kapal. Chuck, take us out. A slave doll is egregious, and we love explosions in our moments. And just remember to always wrap it up next time you're entering that Toma Coochie. Woo! Can I, sorry, can I quick? add something. This is an American Girl doll corner for a second. I had texted my sister while we

were doing this. If she could remember the American Girl Dolls that she had. And could you possibly say their occupations or stories, if you can remember? She had four. Hosefina, Molly, Kristen, and Felicity.

And then that got me onto their origin stories. And I'm on right now, the American Girl Dole Wikipedia. And apparently Addie, we had mentioned, was the first American girl, though, when she was being created to have its own advisory board, there were a multitude of people

to make Addie's character on an advisory board, and apparently it was a big success. How many black people were on the board? All of them were black. All of them were black. Damn. I don't know them off because they got some credentials here. Name them. Violet Harris, researcher and expert for multicultural literature and black American children's literature.

Okay. Cheryl Chisholm, producer and former director of the Atlanta Third World Film Festival. Lonnie Birch, after founding the director of the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History. June Powell, former expert from National Afro-American Museum of Cultural Center in Ohio. I'm reading the thing. Yeah. William King, historian, an expert on slavery. Violet Harris, researcher and expert on multicultural literature

and black American children's literature. Here's the thing. Shout out to all of them people. I love them and what they've been able to do for the culture, and they know more about all of that stuff than me. No need to make a slave doll. I don't give a fuck if Martin Luther King Jr. made it. Like, it's no need.

It's like, you know, it's a slave doll. The girl was enslaved. First of all, the fact, your sister can't win. and let me tell you why. Is a transatlantic slave point if she bought the doll? She didn't buy. It's a transatlantic slave point

if she didn't buy her. Because why would you give her a home away from slavery? There's no way. There's nothing that your sister can do. By not giving her a home, it's bad. By giving her a home is bad. She can't win.

She can't win. take the Transiglan slave point. Next week we're bringing back transgressions so that we can all have some transgressions officially come back next week.