The Ringer-Verse - 'Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga' | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

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their build the best video game remake roster. They're on the button mash. They're on the buttmash. The House of R gives you their deep dive into Furiosa, a Matt Max cycle. Which is the show movie we will be reacting to on today's podcast Furiosa.

Now, got to let you know. Spoilers. for Matt Max. Spoilers for the Role Warrior. Mad Max 2. Spoilers for Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Spoilers for Mad Max, Fury Road saga. Fury Road of Mad Max saga.

Spoilers for everything. It's ever been done. We promise that we're not going to talk about Mel Gibson on this podcast. Oh, you didn't need to say it. We were going to. I was just going to avoid it, man. We were going to do that by ourselves. But Steve, before we talk about the film, give us a spoiler warning.

We're getting ready to talk about You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Okay, to begin our reactions, we have to put you in the know. The only way to do that is the Midnight Manifest. The only one who can do that is Chuck Wack and Chuck take it away. All right, this is your Midnight Manifest for Furiosa and Mad Max Sop. directed by George Miller, written by Miller and Nico Thoris.

A young Furiosus kidnapped from the Green Place by a band of marauders, Friosis brought to Dementis and his biker gang, and the leader becomes obsessed with finding this place of bounty. Meanwhile, Fiorios' mother tracks the child down and tries to escape with her, but is ultimately killed by Dementis and his crew. Eventually, Dementis makes his way to the Cidodil, where he challenges a Morton Joe, but is momentarily defeated. Licking his wounds, Dementis takes over Gastown,

makes an alliance with the Morton Joe for food, and trades Furiosa to her. him to avoid becoming one of a Morton Joe's wives, Furiosa escapes and disguises herself as a boy. Eventually, she needs Praetorian Jack, the driver of the war rake, and he teaches the young Furiosa how to take care of herself in the wasteland. But their new skills, Furiosa eventually kills Dementis as the leader falls victim to the power struggles of the wasteland, and this has been your midnight manifest for Furiosa. Okay, new thing for the instant reactions this time.

I wanted to be quick and concise as you can of putting the midnight boys on the spot. Give me three adjectives to describe this movie. Chuck your first. Ambitious, long, squishy, squishy, a little squishy in the middle. Oh, Joe me. Ooh, can they be compound words? Do it. Do the fucking thing.

You're an educated man. You're an educated black man, Joe. Be sure to also make them Spanish colloquialisms that you learned in middle school. Yeah, honestly, three Spanish, adjectives go. Jomi now. Oh, no. No, I felt Spanish twice in college. It's not for me. Drawn out,

interesting, but ultimately ultimately left me long. Okay, you just whatever, Jomey. I used to. You missed the whole fucking... I definitely. Steve. Your time. Your turn.

For sure, ambitious. bloated it's hard engulfed engulfed and I'll explain engulfed later overwhelmed overwhelmed

engulfed not in the greatest enjoyable though if I could add a fourth right mine are big beautiful ugly the movie is very big

the movie is very beautiful but at the same time it's also an ugly movie okay starting that off then whoever wants to jump off of the Furiosa Cliff first.

How are we feeling having walked out of the movie? So I think what's interesting is I think we can all agree. Fury Road to me is like a not just a perfect movie, but it is like when you watch it for the first time, it's tight.

It's like the concept of the movie, of this big war rig car chase, the momentum. It's something that it was just like, it kind of opens your mind to what can still be accomplished. And I just think Furiosa is just a different story. It's unwieldy. I don't know necessarily how much leading half your movie with a child actress after

something like Fury Road, I don't know how much that works. There was just when I was watching it, I'm like, there's set pieces, there's action. I'm like, this is cool. But it almost felt like if Fury Road is like a perfect self-contained. dish, this one was just too many ideas, so much throwing at the wall. And I just, I did leave the theater a little wanting. So I'd agree with the overall take of the film. I will say this.

When you're inside the movie, you're inside the movie. Something that a lot of IP films, non-IP, well, this is IP, but non-like superhero, deep, deep-lord films have trouble doing is getting you to commit to their world. That's like a huge ask, right? Getting you to commit to the world that they're putting you in, especially if it's not a world from your childhood or you haven't read like a million comments. This is not for me to say that the Mad Max lore is shallow because, you know, it's existed in different iterations. But you are definitely in this world. The movie begins with an absolutely breathtaking pursuit mission from Furios' mother to get her back. But that mission is long.

Yeah, it's almost like another movie. Yeah, that, like, that mission is long. It's not one of those things. Okay, let's give you five to ten minutes on how Furiosa got into Dementis' clutches. It's, in and of itself, super extremely, extremely detailed. And I think my biggest criticism of the film is sometimes it loses its sense. in its grandeur just a little bit. So did you guys also get this feeling in the theater,

which it was like, so we went to the same exact theater and saw this in IMAX that we saw Dune Part 2 in. And Dune Part 2, there was almost like an electricity in the room. Like this was almost a sold-out Furiosis screening. In Dune Part 2, there was like an electricity to the room. We're vibrating in our seats. People were like gasping, cheering, leaning forward. I don't know if I got that sense from it.

our screening. And it's like, I know that that's just our personal experience. People in other theaters might be going crazy. But there was almost, while you're in the world, I agree with you, Van, there was a sense that people were like, wait, what's this movie? Wait, what's happening? Because tonally, there's the mother trying to get young Furiosa back. And then there's Furiosa with Dementis for a little bit. And then she goes to the Citadel. And she's basically learning how to drive the war rigs, survive in the wastelands. And it was almost like, it felt like in the moment the audience could not really figure out the center of the movie and like what type of movie we were telling.

Is that like, is, I'm my totally off base, man. I don't. I don't think you're totally off base. I would say if we're comparing the two screenings, one was an industry screening. Or was it, did we go to a press screening? No, no, it wasn't. It was just an early, it was an early, early like screening. But it was a, but it was a fan type of thing.

Was it not? I don't think it was a I don't think it was a general deal. No, not Jen Pop. But I will say this, though. However, to Charles's point, there was a

smattering of applause when we left because I think when I say smattering, I mean, like, not robust. And there was no, oh, shit, we're all clapping and hollering in the movie. Because the movie,

it's not that the movie, the movie is, a lot. Yeah. So, you know what I mean? So I don't think it gives you the opportunity to, like, even root for her. Like, it, it, the movie is throwing so much at you. It is a lot.

And it's an enjoyable lot. But when you leave, you're like, shit, man. Well, it's because here, it's a, it's a beautiful movie. Like, it is, this is not a bad movie. This is like a, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. great looking movie, like there's great performances. We'll talk about Hemsworth later.

Like, this is a good movie, but to your point, this is almost even like a darker, more intense movie than Fury Road was because Furiosa at some points, you're like, oh shit, this revenge mission is so deep for her, which is like narratively very good. But like, sometimes it's just a lot to watch where I think Anya Taylor Joy has been very honest. about just like Charlie's, Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy Hardy were just basically kind of like this making that movie almost ruined us.

Ani Taylor Joy has been like, this movie almost destroyed me. And you can see it in the performance. I'm just like, you were not happy on this set. This is a dark movie. This is a dark tale. There's no like jokes with Furiosa. There's no levity.

It's like, from the moment she's snatched, I'm like, God damn, girl, you're going through it. Well, there's not a ton of jokes. in the entire Mad Mac saga. It's a pretty bleak. Well, Hemsworth was joking it up. He was the guy. He was trying to do his best

to bring a little bit of like a more buffoon type of touch to it. But your protagonist in this world are normally having to come to turn for some pretty. Yeah, but if you're in Road, you got, you got the war boys. You're laughing at the war boys

because they're doing all this wild shit. You got motherfuckers, like, shredding on the guitar. And I think that's also probably what we're kind of talking around is I think these two movies, even though visually they're very similar, Fury Road is almost like a rock on. Like, you're seeing so much crazy shit happening every second. And this one is a little bit more tonally, I think. I don't want to say serious, but I never got those kind of like heavy metal, oh shit,

balls to the wall thing. Like even though aesthetically you're getting that, narratively, it's not as raw, raw as I think some other previous Mad Max films have been. Mint Boys, where you at? So Charles mentioned a little bit talking about Tom Hardy and Charlize Daron with George Miller and how like there was some parts of he wrote there just like, I don't, what's going on? Like we don't know what's happening. And it's not until they saw the movie that they got it. right and i think that works for us as viewers because we also don't kind of know what's going on right where their confusion is also our confusion so as they start to figure it out in madamex ray road we're like

oh okay this is what's going on this is what happening it works i don't think it works for this film in the same in the same vein where i feel like friosa has to kind of have like her wits about her and like no all right this is what's happening this is like how the store or this is what she wants to do and for a lot of the move we're like okay yeah things are happening cool how does this serve for yosa in her road to dementis and i feel like the plot gets a little lost on that sometimes i think the action's great i think christ timesworth like just incredible right the the brodie knows plays but ultimately i was just i kind of left wanting a little bit. I think my biggest stumble that I have with this movie comes with that initial confusion.

I hate to say the expectation game, but I think of the catalog that George Miller, who is undoubtedly a master of this, like, a master of the craft of like getting you to buy into this world where people have like gigantic nipple rings and bullet made hats and a bunch of other random stuff that like is just cobbled together nonsense, but also is exploring some crazy grandiose themes and dark character stuff, but all pervade through action and mostly silence and stoicism. And I think the problem that comes with Furiosa is that in its length and grandiosity, there's going to be a lot of stumbles because your main villain is also your comic relief and also kind of like undermining a little bit of like the serious nature of the rest of this film

while also contributing to its fun, its action, and our main hero who was in the prior film, Fury Road, arguably our primary focus character. She was definitely the protagonist of that film. She was the protagonist of Fury Road for sure. And Max was like this, like he was incidental to the plot, but was also just carrying things along.

I think now when Furiosa's in the Max driver's seat of like the world is informing her. Things are happening to her and she is more or less surviving and being this propulsive force. The waters get muddied because we try to look for like character defining moments as well as like occasionally getting a shot and a chaser of that Fury Road feeling of like incredible action while also looking a lot different. I honestly disagree. I think this movie occasionally looks awful by comparison. to a lot of things that I've seen. I have a couple more things that I've

had with it. But like, oh, Steve, no, Steve, stay in your bag. If you go and you're taking the Coke, baby, Chuck. When does it look awful? When does it look back to you? There are moments where green screen and digital environments are inserted in a way that I find, like,

very jarring and off-putting that take me out of it immediately, knowing that a seemingly generic gradient background of, just desert is clearly not real or not in front of it. Like it gave volume. The initial trailers gave me this feeling as well. There's a lot less of a tactile feeling that we got with a lot of things.

And again, I know that Fury Road's a very unfair comparison at times because like not only is that a perfect movie, but I think it's a seminal one and probably one of the more important movies ever made. But like this definitely is, I don't want to say a regression, but like a different flavor of a thing that George Miller did way better before. I mean, they did switch cinematographers. So it's not the same cinematographer.

I think the movie, I think the movie looks fantastic. But look, I think we've been talking about the film and we've gotten into it and we've heard and we've talked so much about Fury Road. And this was like, this was why I was so excited for the movie. Fury Road was unexpected to me.

I did not expect him to go back to the Mad Max well. It was something that was big when I was a kid, you know. huge. And then it was gone for a long time when they came back to do a legacy sequel and nail it to that degree to give the movie a different feel, to give it a different kinetic energy, to introduce a new Mad Max and not skip a beat and actually take it further was fantastic. Doing that again, I knew the bar was set so high for the movie. I wanted to see what the take was going to be. And it seemed like for me that the take that they went for was, This is the set of circumstances that made the person that you saw, the heroine that you saw in Fury Road. We already know she's not getting back to the Green Place. We know that we know where this movie is going to end,

which is what we get in the last scene. And so the getting there has to be worth it, which is the classic prequel problem. The classic prequel problem is that because we know where we end up, you have to make the getting there super duper compelling. And in this movie, I saw some of the most breathtaking action

I've ever seen. It's great. It's incredible. Fantastic. I'm not sure that anyone is capable of engineering and action seeing like George Miller right now. It just, it was,

the movie was smaller than some of its parts, even still leaving. And it was just, and it was not whack. It's not in any way whack. Not as you like, it's not in any way whack, but it's all of it together was still smaller than, um, than the sum of its parts. Even at the end, when Dementis got his, I was happy to see him get his, but there was

ambiguity in the movie kind of about who the big bad was. Like, she was passed off from him. to Joe, and it seemed like the entire structure of the wasteland was really the big bad in the movie more than Dementis. Dementis did some terrible things in the movie, but always kind of with a wink and a nod. So by the time he got his at the end, and he was talking to her about, you're going to end up being me and I lost as well. I was like, well, I guess he's probably kind of right, right? I mean, it's a fucked up terrible place where all of these terrible things are happening to these people at all times. The expectations of somebody being super nice, like the people from where she came from, is probably not that high.

You probably shouldn't expect that. And then even those people, the reason why they were so civilized is because they weren't starving and didn't have, you know, like they actually sold me on how terrible you have to be to make it in the world. So by the time he got his at the end, it kind of depowered it a little bit. I mean, is it that the whole thing, though, with Mad Max? Like, the first movie is about Max. He's trying to get out of the game. He's, like, not trying to be on the road anymore.

And by the end of the movie, the whole thing is like he has to become just as bad as like the Marauder and the bike gang. But to your point, Van. It was vengeance, though. Yeah, just like, yeah. But in this movie, I was just like, Furios is kind of a badass from,

moment one, even as a child. So I'm like, she already kind of knows how to survive. So by the end when she kills Dementis, I'm like, Shottie, you already were kind of like, she didn't sell her soul, but like, she was killing motherfuckers. She didn't care. Like, she was,

that's where I was a little. To know as a kid that you need to, uh, bite off the break fluid from a motorcycle to help your pursuit. or like slow them down. Fucking awesome. Like it only communicated with like silence.

All via action and informed movement. That's all that this movie needs to be. And it's like at its best what Fury Road was. I think the problem that stumbles on it is like again, like the world building while amazing to me kind of just felt like it was the thing that like also kind of lowered it a tiny bit because did we really need to know like the politics of gas. you know what you say this johnwick two what was going down at bullet farm in the world i don't know like kind of the beauty of a mad max movie is like when a guy shows up and he says he's from bullet farm

he's like yeah i'm from bullet farm and i've got a hat made of bullets and that's all that you need to know and like i agree i agree with steve a little bit but but the problem though is in in the grand scheme of things maybe not but for this movie you kind of have to no of course of course and i But that's the swings that it's taking. Right. So in the grand scheme of things, you know, John Wick is a great comparison

because when we talk about John Wick, we talk about like two completely different approaches to filmmaking, right? John, John Wick, one, was sparse with all kind of weird Russian music. I remember I got into that song. Was that song? How's it? Do that.

Tap. Tap. Remember when he was killing people in the, in the club? I don't know what this is, but I, me either. I do not remember this. I don't remember that record? That record was, I was listening.

Hold on, hold on. I was, bro, I was listening to that record. I was listening to that record when I, like, a lot because I was into John Wigg so much. I don't remember what I'm talking about?

When it was, when he was killing people in the club, right? In the bat, no, in the bath house. Oh, the bath house. Oh, and she's, and it's like that, a little like slow singing song.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're wrong. It's not the song. The song is called Think is by these girls. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Give it.

Uh, uh, gotta work it out. Come on. It's sexy. Talk about it. Hold on. Get into it, yeah.

Definitely in a bathhouse. Yeah, this is what you listen to. Yeah, yeah, that's the bathhouse one. Um, uh, uh, what? Give me, give me, what you go on. The boom, boom.

Oh, shit. Okay. So, so, so they, and then by the end of the movie, you get, by John Wickford, should I say, you get not only falling down the stairs a bunch of times, you get wide, huge shots. Between one and four, what do we have? A complete explanation of the high table. Exactly. A complete explanation of the Continental.

We have four, five different factions. We're going over. It's just what happens. And for this film right here, to me, the missed opportunity, in my opinion, was not exploring Furios' relationship

with Immorten Joe's wives more. That to me could have been the grounding of the movie and understanding the plight and what's worth saving out of the citadel, that could have been something that grounded it because other than that, the movie kind of is an explanation

of how the economics and trade in the wasteland work. I have a question. Are we comparing this too much to Fury Road? We are. Without a doubt we are. Without a doubt we are. But it's also a direct prequel

and it is completely informed by all of the things that Fury Road was. And, like, again, like, let's, like, scrap the filmmaking parts of it or, like, the overall story of it. From A to B, this movie is a lot more dense and a lot more ambitious with what it tries to establish for, I think, almost any Mad Max film,

like, other than, like, beyond Thunderdome, like, I don't know if there's been laid this much, like, groundwork for world building in the Mad Max saga. Like, has anybody, else seen Beyond Thunderdome, by the way? Certainly, I've seen it. Well, you get to smack yourself. Like, what are you? Okay. Sorry. Any other than Van

also seen this? No, I've seen one and two. No shot. You should see, you should see Thunderdome. It's great. You can see Thunderdome. It's great. I mean, also, if I'm being positive, though, if I'm being positive, like, I don't know if the character works, but I like Dementis. Like, I think Hemsworth does a really good job as Dementus. Like, I was, I was thoroughly entertained by him.

because they actually wrote him. They gave him like a lot to do because they didn't really get Furiosa to do. Furiosa is involved in some of the most breathtaking action sequences in the movie. But her character is, it's an interesting choice narratively to make her character sort of the palette

by which you see the waistline. You have to see her almost entirely reactive to what's going on. She has to use ingenuity. She has to use, she has to be cut off from it emotionally. She has to harden up. You have to do all of that and it's all in the eyes. Like 85 to 90% of it is in the eyes with her.

And with Chris Hemsworth, none of it is. He's weak in action, but kind of diabolical in word. You know what I mean? It's almost like a complete foil of a character to her. It works a little bit more for him than it does for her, in my opinion. Does that make, you brought up something where I've been thinking about this. Furiosia really is a revenge story. It really is like from cradle to like right before Fury Road.

It is like what happened to this, to this girl and why is she hell bent on getting revenge with Dementis? But I feel like for large swast of the movie, it's not. If we use a John Wick comparison, in John Wick, one, we, like, he is driving the action. Something happens to him, and he is methodically going around killing motherfuckers until he gets to his ultimate goal. And I felt like in this movie, Furiosa is almost, the world is happening to her where it's like, by the time she gets revenge on Dementis, I'm like, it didn't really feel like she took matters into her own hands

until like the last 15 or 20 minutes. It's more so like she's with Dementis and then Dementis trades her to a Morton and then she goes with Pretorian who teaches her how to do the war rig. But it's not like she's really has any of the like power in the agency is the perfect word. It's not like she has the agency.

She's almost being dragged along, which is a choice. But it makes it harder for me to like care, to be honest. But we also can't say that that hasn't been the thing that Mad Max movies have done to all of their protagonist characters. Like, it just happens to all of which have been Max before. Like, that same thing has happened with Max.

Max doesn't talk a ton. No, this isn't even really with the talking, though. This is more so, like, the reason I feel like when she finally kills Dementis, the reason it kind of fell flat for me is because she's really not saying anything, we're never really getting the deeper plan for what she has for Dementis. It's more so like, once she's on the war rig,

she's just like, I just want to get back to the green place. I just want to get back to the green place. And then when she has a chance to kill dementia, she's like, oh, I'm killing Dementis now. And I'm like, I need it a little bit more because it's just a little squishy.

That's fair, because there have been multiple chances for, in this film for Furiosa to like either just fuck off to the green place and be on her own. or take vengeance on Dementus because of what he did to Jack. Because when she's in Gasstown, she has a moment where she has the gun and she sees Dementis and then she stops from killing him.

And that's kind of the clue that she's just like, well, she still wants to kill this motherfucker. But then she tries to escape to the green plate. I was like, I need. Yeah, that scene after Bullittown, there's that big scene with the Warrig and the and the crane. And it's pretty cool, right? But they escape and her and the Patorian dude just go off. And they're like, well, just do this.

And I'm like, wait, but yeah, he's still alive. Yeah, what happened to Dementus? You ain't going to get your look back? Yeah. And then he's on your ass for three days. I really, I've been reading this book, right? And the book is called nuclear war a scenario.

Oh, why, Vann? Why do you do this year so? You guys, I've been reading so much about how it would happen and what would go down and how things would go. You know, they talk, the book goes in the very detailed, this woman,

this very detailed book, this woman named Ann Jacobson did over 300 interviews, some interviews with all different types. Secretary's Defense, Secretary's estate, ex-heads of state, ex-hares of state, ex-Fema directors, all different types of nuclear scientists, all types of different nuclear people in the nuclear situation that you didn't even realize were involved.

Man, this is 400 pages of depression right here. I'm reading the book. It starts off with what the nuclear attack over D.C. would be. I want to let you guys know something, man. Between this book and Fury Road, bro, we got to start a letter writing campaign, bro. We got to do something, man. I'm sorry.

D.R. You want to D.S. Disarmament? This has got to be one of the newest things that the Midnight Boys do. We got to get rid of it makes no sense. Midnight Boys Against Nukes. Midnight Boys Against Nukes. We need to. This is what I want to do.

Get a patch. This is what I want to do. This is what I want to do. I want to schedule a viewing of Superman for a quest for peace around a Midnight Boys initiative. Double feature with Oppenheimer maybe? No, no, we can't. We can't celebrate

Oppenheim. I don't want to, I don't want to live in the wasteland gas. I mean, I don't, bro, it's, bro, I'm looking at it. How this world sucks, bro. Like, they're gonna, like, this world fucking sucks.

Can we be also real? This is, I know what's said in Australia, but I mean, there's average. You know how mad back to us up. like, damn, like, the black people have fucked. They just, like, we not fighting the gas. They ate us. We're not doing all this shit, bro.

But we've been. That's really. They ate us, bro. Bro, we have been eaten. Yeah, we've been eating, bro. They ate us a long time ago, bro. It's really funny to say that because, because, uh, Bortorian Jack was supposed to be played by Yahya Abdul Mateen.

So they definitely, we definitely had one of us there. Wait, so if you're. Furiosa likes the chocolate then. Or was about to? Okay. Is that true? Yeah. If you'd have been, okay, just letting y'all know it's a different movie if he plays him.

That's a wildly great. It's a different, it's a different movie. You don't fucking hate her, bro. No, no. What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? Well, I'm just saying, bro, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

different movie. You're a fucking. No, bro. No. Say what you're saying. Like, no, no. So you know how Mad Max is Mad Max Fure wrote? This would have been Furiosa colon BBC.

It's like a content. Oh, man. A black tail. A black tail. It's like it's a totally different movie. If you, if you play a, bro. This great God.

Furiosa and interracial side. This makes more sense now that I seen that because I'm like, you know, you know, she's all up on. I get that they have a thing, but she saw him. Yeah, damn right. I want to drive the war rig. Slitting up to that man in the war rig. The poster for this is just Focus,

2015. Wow. Okay. All right, Steve, that's a transatlantic thing. Wow. Yeah. Come on, Steve. Come on, bro. We were having fun.

Steve, you got to know when to hold him and you got no one to fold him. You got no one to fold them. You like, Steve. Steve. God know what to hold him. You got to know where to fall from Steve. All right. I'm just being for a little.

I will say this. I will say this, though. I will say this. I did see that, you know, Furiosa for a lot of the movie had half black face going on. I wonder how that works with Yaya Abdul Matine because that could be a cool scene

where she actually is putting that on her face because she wants to connect with him. Man. Right. Bad. Bro, there was a moment in the theater, man. Like, she, oh, wait, when we thought we heard something. Oh, my God.

This moment. It's the same thing. Ben, bro, he's like, bro. They're at Bullittown, and the guy is saying it's the rigor, but it's in an Australian accent. I was like, so the first time, me and Steve went. What? I just, bro, what he said that? I just knew Lekeithstaffield was going to walk out from somewhere.

or like it was some it just like get the nigger and then all of a sudden somebody walking out I'm like that's a good role for somebody and you just build

as the nigger it's the fact that he said it twice and we both just sat up in our chairs I was like Steve what he said when you thought you heard the N word did you get bricked up

oh wait actually we have to we always have to ask this when we go to a movie theater so Van and I we sat we sat together in the back you guys were one seat over mid edition we know you guys

like to get bricked up in the movie theater? What part of this movie had y'all bricked up? Oh, easy. When Chris Hemsworth, nipples got ripped off. You're freaking. You're trying to, you're trying to make a joke, but we know you telling the truth, you sick fuck. Like you say to ass and you guys and say to ass and say.

You're saying. You're saying. You're, you're trying to act like, let me tell you what happens to. I'm trying to yes and you. That's what I'm not trying to stifle you. I don't fucking believe you because you came out with that so quickly. That's okay. Like, that's okay.

You ain't even have to think, bro. You didn't even have to think. Oh, that's easy. When the nipples got ripped off. Jesus Christ, Steve. Now, he's the thing. Did he not have nipples for the rest of the movie? I guess not.

They didn't show him. No, he didn't. There's little black dots. What's the grossest thing that happened in the movie? Oh, the maggot scene. Oh, the maggots scene. Oh, the maggots. Oh, yeah.

That shit, because, like, they lingered on that shit. I'm like, come on. Miller. Like, I mean, this is, this is what he does. But I was like, come on, bro. We, like, get out of here. I will say before the magazine, the two babies kill me, bro. The two babies. Oh. Wait, what two babies? They were the fuse, right? It was like four-legged babies or something? It was like a joint twin. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This episode is brought to you by Spectrum Business. Fast, reliable internet means everything for your business. And even this podcast, that's why I trust

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It's with Octo bosses. Yeah, that shit. When she's, like, going throughout the war rig, she has to, like, repair the gas. And then she's shooting motherfuckers. I was like, dog, this is. I'll tell you the moment where I locked in. It's when the paragliders, like, went from, like, one motorcycle. Nuts.

To a tether. to like gliding up into the air from like those little like sand skis. I was like, this is the shit. This is it. We're back. Steve has a list here of what the best action and visuals were. I think we've already kind of hit on it,

but I want to go through it right now. Best sequence here. The motorcycle chase was great. I love the motorcycle. Mom, Furious. The mom. The reason why I love that motorcycle chase is because of just how badass Furious's mom is

and just how resourceful she is. Yeah. I almost, I have to believe with the people from the green place, they have, they're not, obviously they're not sheltered. They have an intimate understanding of how wasteland survival goes. She knows right away to take the bigger motorcycle. She knows right away to take the fuel. She knows right away to do all of that stuff.

I love that chase. Did you guys fuck with that? Oh, I thought that that, that, I mean, it was long. But when the chase was actually happening, I was like, Furios, I almost wished it was about Furios' mom because I'm like, yo, she's getting fucking busy, bro.

So that was great. Crack shot, too, by the way, doming people from like three miles away. So I had issues with this throughout the whole film. I'm like, how are, how was like everybody in this film just like master snipers? Like, just like from fucking miles away. Furiosia and Bullet Farm is a monster.

Yeah. I'm like, how does this happen? Think about it like this. Set yourself in, I don't know, Dodge City in 1870. When they said we really do need to get out of Dodge. All right, man. Steve, what's happening, bro? Are you good?

Let's talk. Are you good, my boy? Are you okay? Yeah. Like, you just, it's just like you're, you're throwing heat today. and I never ever See you act like this before Hey, really do need to get out of Dodge

Like what's going on, Steve? You get good sleep last night? No. Damn. Also, wait, Steve, financially, are you okay right now? Did they repossess your TV? I got gambling debts.

I got to be singing in Vegas for three years now. Steve got the little 26 inch. I see it. Yeah, where's your TV? Steve? Oh, my TV broke. Oh. Oh, man.

All right, you know what? After this, everybody gets dressed. We go into Best Buy. We get Steve and Newtie. Yeah, man. You get Steve and Newtah. I'm not bullshit. We go to Best Buy right now.

We get Steve, but we, you know, it's got to be Vizio, but we get Steve. But he's not like, he's not, but we're not LG and Samsung. That's a little. No, no, no, no. We're not getting to Sony. No. That's what I. You got to get Vizio, but we get Steve and new TV.

So, you know, the first assault on the war rink, like these action scenes are insanely long, right? But the first assault on the war rig is just sensational. It's amazing. The one on here that you have on here that for some reason didn't move me as much was the final chase with Dementis. By the time we got to Dementes, To me, at the end of the movie,

it was a little anticlimatic by the time we got to him. There wasn't much of a back and forth between him and Furiosa. Really, the only thing that was super interesting about it was she had to make the one decision of who she was going to how she was going to chase him.

That was kind of anti-climatic by the time he got to it. Anybody else feel that way? Am I wrong about that? In terms of action, correct? I think it's not the most hype or most interesting action sequence of the film. but in terms of just pure acting, it's probably the best part of the movie, right?

Chris Hensworth shines. It's not quite a monologue, but he has like these long bits where he's talking to Furiosa. And I thought this part in the trailer was stupid. Do you have it in you to make it epic? And I was like, all right, that's just a trailer line. That sounds really dumb.

But in the movie, in that part, it works. It does work in the movie. It absolutely works in the movie. And I'm like, whoa. okay Chris, there was lying on you after Thor Ford, man, show him, talk to him, let's go. Like, he really delivered. And like, like, Charles said at the beginning, Anya Taylor's joy showed like a darkness showed like an energy.

And that scene, I'm like, this is what the movie was kind of missing a little bit. I know you can't have them meet like all throughout the movie because then it's kind of silly. But that's that bit right there, them in the desert, just the two of them, was probably for me the best part of the movie. Did Dementis need to be a little bit better at his job? because it's a great performance, but character-wise, at no point was I like,

Yo, Furios is never going to get Dementis. I'm like, Dementes ain't really good at shit. Like, he's like a leader and he's like evil. But like, he's never really getting that busy and that I also think is why like the final chasing and I'm like, it's not really a challenge for Furiosa. You know what I'm saying? Well, first of it, he's a terrible leader.

He's a, I mean, that's the point. That's exactly. That's the point, yeah. But like, at least one of the Morton Joe, you like, he's the embodied. of evil. So even though he himself is not getting busy, you're always like afraid of like, all right, he's kind of smarter than everyone around him, or at least he's more capable. With Dementis, I'm just like, he's just an idiot. Like it's-

Well, Dementus is cunning. He is cunning. That is true. Yeah, like he's, he's not a good leader. I wonder why his men are so loyal to him. And obviously, there were some that weren't. But he's ruthless and he's cunning because they're all he did he was able to outmaneuver the rest of them to take over gas land

um gas town should I say so I mean he is cunning but to your point he's weak and it doesn't really feel like he's ever going to win everything he touches he destroys um the the scene at the end of the

at the end of the movie with the two of them where he's telling her about himself and herself, that was the best scene in the movie. The chase leading up to it to me was anticlimatic. But no, the acting in that scene, I mean, Chris Hemsworth is going for it in this movie. I think that he's trying to, that he's trying to,

that he's trying to get to, that he's trying to, I think Chris Hemsworth took the role very seriously to let people know that he's more than Thor. That's all I'm saying. So yeah, he's, he, he, he, it was, it was definitely very good. All right. So are we ready for the midnight meter?

We think we are. All right, guys, the midnight meter is our scale from one to ten ranking films and TV shows. Now, one to ten, normal scores, one being the worst, ten being the best. But 11 and 12 are reserved for game changers. The movies that we think just have shaken up the world. We'll start with Steve, then Joe Me, than me than van. Steve.

I'm going to give you this a seven. While it's occasionally gorgeous and incredible to see, I think that it really does stumble over the weight of a couple of things that ultimately sucks the oxygen out of a overall enjoyable movie. Jomey?

I'm going to go to 7-2. You know, again, the action is great. Hemsworth is great. There's a lot of good stuff this movie, ultimately is just like maybe a little too bloated and a little too too much dip on the chip. So I'm going to go with seven. I'm going to go with a strong seven too. Like I know people are going to see that shit. They're going to be like seven. I'm like, that's a strong seven. Like it's like I like

70% of this film, but there was like 30% of that that I was like, it just stinted a little bit for me. Van? Um, a seven. This is the, this is the, the, the movie can't be any lower than the seven. and it's too well made. Yeah. It's too well made to be anything lower than a seven. But in terms of how much I enjoyed the movie, I enjoyed it enough for it to be a seven.

I didn't enjoy it enough for it to be an eight, and it's certainly not a nine or a ten. So that's what I would say. Seven's all around for Furiosa. That's not a bad score. But I, that's the strongest seven I ever had. Cool. All right.

Listen, here's a deal, guys. Let's be real about something real quick. Let's have a, we're about to get into it, guys. We're about getting to the era of Ringiverse content. We got the Acolyte coming. We got the boys coming. We got House of the Dragon coming. We got fucking...

Deadpool Wolverine is coming. You guys need to hold on to your hats and hold on to your asses. and if you're Steve, hold on to your nipples because we are, we're getting into it. And we're going to need the audience for this time because we are going to be making decisions about what we're covering, how we're covering it, and what we're going in on and all of that.

And we're going to love to hear from you guys about the shows that you're loving, about the shows you have to hear a lot from. Do we do an hour on one show, two hours on the other show, all of that stuff? we're hearing great things about all of these shows. I've heard great things about the acolyte, which you take with a fucking grain of salt.

Okay. Were these the same people that talked you into? Shut up. Shut up. All right. All right, Mr. Flash. Shut your mouth. Tom Cruise is lying again.

It was crazy. Tom Cruise, James Gunn, everybody in, like, Hollywood for like a year was like, this is the best movie we've ever seen. Check clear. That was crazy gas. Mass psychosis happening. Do you know what, though?

A lot was riding on the fucking movie. Everybody was trying to make sure that the shit popped off. Zazlov was fighting for his life. Hey, you know what? Here's the thing about Zazlov. We just got to say this real quick. Zazloff got, he can't even get the one unassailable property that they have in with us.

Yeah, man. There's one property at Warner Brothers that everybody agrees that they like. What you say to everyone? every single person that watches basketball agrees we can't agree on who the MVP is we can't agree on the replay rules we can't agree on the NBA team

the one thing that all NBA fans can agree on is that we love inside the NBA that's the one thing that everybody fucks with and they fucked that up it's nasty law it's rough the one fucking The thing that all NBA fans can agree on is we love that show. Man, we will watch fucking, I don't know, we will watch Brooklyn versus

Chicago. Hornets Trailblazers. Hornets Trailblazers. Magic. We'll look at the game just to, the magic were great. We'll look at the game just to see what Chuck and them go, go, say they fucked that up. Nasty work. It's not,

it's not looking great over there. Game's gone, fellas. The game's gone. All right, we're out of here. That's all. They don't get any more show. On Monday,

Min Edition returns to talk about the latest Ringiverse June look ahead. That's great. You guys can get a primer for everything that we're going to be covering over there at Min Edition.

Tuesday Budmatch is back to give you their build the best video game remake roster. Also on Tuesday, House of Art gives you their deep dive into Furiosa. I'm at Max Saga. All right. So you got more Furiosa.

Check in with the men, boys. And over there would be in Falk and Lindbergh, all right? A producer is Steve, the architect, Almond. Jummy. Jumey, it's playing a dinner around on social. Hashtack, Immorton Jome. Ooh. I like that.

Immorton Jome. Morden Jome. I like that. I like Morton Jome. That's good. And a digital production from Arjuna Rime Gavam pal. Chuck, take us out. Furiosa is a strong seven,

and we've had a wonderful Meg. And if we've learned anything on today's show, Steve is really in to nipple play. Jome, you could be that nigger. I think that that's the type of nigger you would do. That's not for me. Honestly, honestly, the milkman, you know, Jome, you have your wives. Mother's milk. Hey, selling that mother's milk. I'm not a, I'm not a wives guy.

You were such a liar, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It Morton was a literal milk merchant. Yeah, he was. That's the joke. A more quick. Before we go,

who would you be in the nuclear apocalypse if you were in the wasteland? If that's in the wasteland. If you were in the wasteland, who would you be? Of all the people that are there, who would you be? You go, Steve.

I'm thinking either the history man easy done your history man you're like you're like is that that that's such a easy one right there and I'm just crying like you're you're definitely

you're definitely the history man for sure okay Steve is the history man Joe me would you be Jomi oh man what was that dude who was helping Joe Bossa

do the knives oh that's not how you're gonna be that's who I want to be that's what I want to be that's who I want to be. That's who I want to be. I think Joe, Jomi is going to be one of the people that, like,

fight for the, uh, motorcycle that, like, pulls the dut of part. Like, he's in, like the tussle.

Hell no. I'm dying immediately. I ain't got that in me. What? Listen. Oh, I'm not fighting over that shit, bro.

I'm fine over that, bro. Yeah, just just just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just,

I would, I know, I feel like I'd be, like, the homie, like, who was at, at like the entire bullet town was his, but he was doing such a shitty job

because he was just in his room painting. He's just like, y'all got that shit out here, bro. Like, I'm just going to paint my little pictures. That's Joe's brother. Yeah, he's his brother. Oh, it is? That's me. I'm a Morton Joe's brother, bro.

I'm just like, dog, leave me alone with my little paint sets. I fucking would y'all out there, bro. Oh, you know what? I got it. I'll be the organic mechanic. That's definitely who you would be. The organic mechanic. A fucking cannibal

making blood making blood sausage out of people that's definitely who you would be for sure. Dan, you got to be

demented. You got dementia. It's demented. It's demented. It's a very unfortunate. It's very unfortunate. It's very unfortunate that that's what I would be.

And, you know, I need to do some soul searching. But it would definitely probably be de mentis, man. Who do we have a year? An unsirious charismatic leader who doesn't know what he's doing. That's me, baby.

Yeah. Honestly, if we're real, I'm switching. If you're Dementis, I'm that motherfucker who's just hating on him. You know the dude in black with the horse. With the fucking horse. He's like, you just got a holy kill. That's you. You.

I hate you, Dementus. I'm like, ain't we on the same team? That's exactly you. Whoa. I'm like, Dementis fucked up because Dementus went over to his boy. He's like, put this white shit. on and I'm like oh he's sending them to die bro and like the homie in the black was like dog

those are like that's my best friend man can we pick any motherfuckers else he's like no it got to be them so it's like now we got to kill him to make it look real yeah we got to make it look real blah blah blah blah blah it's like you're losing your way demented it worked ruthless it worked we got post credits