The Ringer-Verse - ‘Gen V’ Midseason Check-In | Mint Edition

Episode Date: October 22, 2023

Jess, Jomi, and Steve are back and ready to dive back into the wild world of ‘Gen V’ while highlighting episodes four through six. They discuss what’s working for them so far this season, some o...f their favorite problematic characters within the world of ‘The Boys’ and ‘Gen V,’ and where they think the show is going. Hosts: Jessica Clemons, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producer: Jonathan Kermah Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:23 The once in a while podcast about the latest fandom that you just can't live without. I'm Steve Allman. I'm Joe Me dinner, oh, he points. But see, in the outline, it's different. It's in a different thing. So I'm following the outline, you see me?
Starting point is 00:02:35 I'm locked in. It's on wax. Right now we're the Spider-Man pointing meme where we're just like, all, just like, Mexican standoff. Now I'm going to point, now I'm going to point to Jomi. I'm Jomi Dineran. I'm Jessica Clemens. And we're all here
Starting point is 00:02:50 having a great time. Stop, I'm crying. I do feel you though, Jess. Like, why does she lose her? Yeah, why is my spot? Because that's how you wrote it in the dog. It's how I wrote in the thing. I can edit the dock.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Steve, tell them right now what you did. Okay, so I said, hello everybody and we do this thing when we're going to be reading off people's names I'm Steve Allman and then I point to whoever's going off and reading their name next and in the last few episodes it's been Jessica Clemens first
Starting point is 00:03:25 and then Jomey then around second no real ranking about our friendships or our personal It is completely friendship. It is friendship based okay great so this time I pointed to Jomey for him to go first that's right spend a block twice like it ain't nowhere to park
Starting point is 00:03:40 we're not going to get this recorded today We are. And Jessica went second. And I might have switched up the order for no reason other than that's who I pointed to first. Jomey is literally cheering. And I'm sad. Extended over two chairs laying down. Listen, Jomey's very, very jazz.
Starting point is 00:04:00 He's about to play Spider-Man for the rest of his life. Come on, man. Big Stepper, he came in a Rolls Lovie left in a stretcher. Come on, bro. Let's go. Y'all not 21? Are you going to wrap the show? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Are you going to wrap this whole show? This whole show, just 21 lyrics. Just 21 Savage. Who knew that GenVe and 21 Savage shared such a close relationship? What powers would 21 Savage have in the Gen Zver? So he's got that knife on his forehead? Right. He'd be able to come to like, he'd be able to like literally pull it out.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, Ted out. Coutes come to life. That's sick. That's a pretty sick one. That's a sick one. That's a sick one. That's fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:32 All right. Let's get to the episode, yeah. We will get to the episode. But before we do, some programming reminders on the feed that are coming up. Monday Button Match will be giving you their deep dive into insomnia. Spider-Man 2. Jess, quick impressions. Thumbs up, thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Thumbs up. Big thumbs up. Web's up. Also, on Monday, House of Our is going to be giving you their deep dive into Loki. Episode 3, Season 2 on the House of Our feed. Be sure to check them out along with New York Times, best-selling author Joanna Robinson. That's right. Coming back from Book Tour, we love you.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Joanna, Wednesday. Button Mash is going to be back again for coverage of Super Mario Wonder. Okay, impressions on that one. You get to be an elephant, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought you were asking me impressions
Starting point is 00:05:20 because I just got the game today. Oh, okay. Well, I haven't got, I wasn't able to download it yet. Okay, well, you get to be an elephant in this one. It seems pretty cute. Thursday, Midnight Boys on Loki, as always. Friday, brand new splash page with Jess on Loki as well.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yes. Yes. I made a questionable face because maybe next week we might come out on like Saturday. But it's still quality content. It's nebulous. It's up in the air. You know what? You're going to be blessed with Jess on our feeds.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It's just like the TVA. Both today and later. The time, time is net, you know what I'm saying? Time is meaningless. Time doesn't work like this on the ring of verse feed. Exactly. Just like the TVA. Time doesn't work the same as it does on the ring of verse feed.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It absolutely does not. But what is going to work today is we are finally diving back in to GenV, Amazon Prime, the boys universe. How are we feeling everybody? Jomi, talk to me. I feel good. I'm really enjoying this show so far. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I like the characters, and the drama is really hidden right now. So I'm having a blast. Jess, how are you feeling? I'm feeling great about the show. I really like it. If I ever compare it to the boys, I'm always comparing it to season one of the boys
Starting point is 00:06:36 because that's such a good season, just like this season of GenV. It's very great, very into it. the steaks are getting higher steaks are sizzling the steaks are sizzling like Jomey's Italian sausage
Starting point is 00:06:51 all right everybody listen to the midnight boys everybody quick spoiler warning everything that happened in GenVe so far everything that's happened in the boys so far maybe we talk a bit about the comics I'd rather not but hey we're all going to be here it's going to be a fun time
Starting point is 00:07:08 let's get into it Jess, you've mentioned that season one of the boys is one of your favorite seasons, maybe ever, of the boys. On TV, completely. He's like, well, it was good. I don't know what I'm saying that. That's season of the boys so far.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Gen V, as of yesterday, renewed for season two. Yeah. Great news, obviously. While we don't want to invite direct comparisons to the boys, is this is clearly a show that has a couple of different things on its mind. What do you like about this at the mid-season point so far, and how do you think it's kind of parallel to season one of the boys? Oh, parallel?
Starting point is 00:07:49 I don't know if it is. Maybe that's why I like it so much. I don't know if it's, it just feels different from the boys, but it's still in the boys universe, which is why I always compare it to season one. Because it's like a horrible comparison, horrible comparison I'm about to use. It's like watching The Purge. And then you're watching the first one where you're like,
Starting point is 00:08:05 yeah, I'm not a rich person living in a rich house. That's the boys, right? And then the second one, you're like, oh, these are the poor people that are living during the porch. This is how they're feeling. I'm like, oh, shit, that is me. And this is me watching GenVie. I'm like, oh, yeah, these are young people that aren't celebrities, aren't part of the seven. They're normal people with powers that are horrible.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Seemingly normal-ish people. And so I'm like, oh, yeah, I can relate to these people way more. I understand these stakes. They're just kids. This is horrible, but I'm also like, entertaining. Exactly. And what was your second? What was your first question?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Well, that more or less was my first question. I'll throw it to Jomey when I ask, like, so when I see season one of the boys, it's really good at throwing us into a world where corporate superheroes and image-based, like, IP of heroism and, you know, civic duty is made into this, like, terrible society. And it introduces all of these characters and all of these, like, very crass and, like, brash things in a very interesting world. How do you think Gen V at the mid-season point has been doing and introducing this own world to Jess's point of seemingly like the normal people
Starting point is 00:09:15 or the littler people or the people that are trying to build themselves up in the world of the boys? It's doing a really great job. We talked about in the first pod on the first three episodes, but the characters are really shodding in this show and they continue to do that over the last three episodes, right? And you get to see them very vulnerable, very open,
Starting point is 00:09:35 and you realize that they've gone through just unimaginable stuff, right? And that makes you empathize and you like, you understand, okay, this is why they do what they do. This is why, you know, they are who they are. And it's kind of the same with the boys, right? We find out about, you know, Huey's background and butcher's background and Mother's Milk's background. And that's why we root for them despite the fact that they're all doing crazy, illegal, just terrible things, right? And so it's the same thing with GenVie. the characters bring the show to life
Starting point is 00:10:07 and you find yourself rooting for them, you find yourself loving them. And so you're invested in week to week, like, oh, man, how is Andre going to handle this? Or how is Marie going to handle this? And I think that's the beauty of the show. That's why the show works so well. It's crazy that you're...
Starting point is 00:10:22 I mean, I felt this way also in the Harley Quinn series where I'm like, I'm rooting for everyone on the team. I'm rooting for everybody in GenVie on... Except, you know, the main, the core. Right. The core ones. Are you mean you're not mooted from Maverick? never
Starting point is 00:10:33 never in my life he's on his own journey for sure yeah uh he can go to prison uh dirty two j that's where he goes that's the journey to prison exactly we also talked about how he just doesn't wear clothes like he can right
Starting point is 00:10:48 he's invisible he's naked all the time the only reason that you know that he's there is because he has a baseball cap and glasses yeah so he can just you know put on also a shirt I think it well I think that's more of a novelty for him to know that like hey this is my courtesy to you to know that I'm here.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Do you know what makes me the most uncomfortable? Being naked with a hat on and glasses. I can't say that I've ever been naked with a hat on and glasses. So you put it on? You just put it on like a hat and glasses. And that's how you know that I'm here for no other reason. Man. Literally I'm like, where's Steve at?
Starting point is 00:11:21 He's got a hat on now. Okay, there we go. Damn. People notice you, Steve. We notice you all the time. Thank you. I'm fairly noticeable. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:29 In that I'm a person. That you exist. Yes. That I have a corporeal form. Well, we talk about the strengths of this show. What do you think is probably the biggest thing that came out of these last three episodes? Episodes four, five, and six. Oof.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Lots of things unfolding in the past few episodes. Kate's number one, right? What? Kate would be number one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean... You said you...
Starting point is 00:11:56 No, you said you caught the cheating. I knew it. I knew it. I didn't. Did you? I scint it. coming from a model. The thing was, like, the Rufus thing,
Starting point is 00:12:05 you know, Rufus also like a terrible character. But at the same time, when I'm watching, I'm like, she has this power, you know, and the fact that, like, nobody even, like, thought to consider her. Because remember, in the other, in most of the episodes before, and she's like, hey, guys,
Starting point is 00:12:20 maybe we don't do this, you know? She's very much, like, trying to lead them on the right way in, like, episode four when Cricket goes missing. And they're like, yo, Andre, you said, you might have. sent emma to her death, Kate was like the first one to be like, hey man,
Starting point is 00:12:37 you know what I'm saying? Why would you do that? You don't know what's down there. He's very much like protective, you know? And so when they're like going around like, is it Rufus? I'm thinking like, first of all,
Starting point is 00:12:47 Rufus has to work like very close to him. And like they went on, they've been gone for days, right? Like they said like, oh, it's not Friday, Saturday or whatever. I'm like, it seems like it's easy for Kate
Starting point is 00:12:59 to, you know, get in condo with them. You know, like I was just, just like interesting. Like I've kind of feel like, why is no one asking Kate where she was?
Starting point is 00:13:06 I mean? And then when she goes, and then Marie goes to Kate and she's like, look, I found this thing in my shoulder and she's not like super freaking out and then she's like,
Starting point is 00:13:16 she's taking her glove off. It's like, ah, Gen V, I'm familiar with your game. You can't fool me. And I think what I'll piggyback on that is to say that like, I think the mystery is actually
Starting point is 00:13:25 an incredibly strong point of this. Oh, yeah. The unfolding nature of, the woods and these seemingly like cover up between like the rufus plot line into the kate plotline into like wiping people's memories like when i first i did when we first saw episode four did did you think that like there was a problem with your video on amazon where like the episode just like cuts off and then they're like waking up after a party we'll protect and then it's a completely different episode yeah i thought i thought my i thought my thing glist but i thought like
Starting point is 00:13:59 hey man is my internet good bro like what's just yeah Like there was a problem with the end. And then like episode five starts and you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did we just miss a whole episode? Yeah. And then like, oh, like there's a very good way that the episodes are structured to where they're like, okay, a memory wiping plot while also seemingly like a cheat code in order for characters to get on the same page very quickly.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Also is this crazy, cool way to play with the audience to think that like, oh, wait, we missed what was about to happen. Now we've got to figure this out with everybody. I think this was a great three episode, uh, one, two, three punch for like some really interesting plot developments here.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I think that the mystery at play here is kind of like, I might say better than some of the things that the boys have brought us. Because like it's, it's very interpersonal. It's very tied in with every character that we're seeing. And nobody's at each other's throats all of the time to actually start figuring things out. I think I, that's what I really stuck with.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I think we'll have to see how, it ends. Because remember, like, season three of the boys is really good, but then like nothing happens at the end. And like, you know, Homelanders starts powers and Soldier Boy gets, you know, taken away. And the only thing really happens is Queen Mabels are powers, but we're not like really worried about that.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So like, the status quo stays the same. And like, at the end of season one, it's really good because we found out, holy crap, not only is Beck out alive, she has a son and the son is Homelanders spawn. And like, that was insane at the time, right? Right. And so I think we'll have to see whether it measured up to the boys in the ending.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But in terms of like the mystery, it's awesome. It's great. And I love that all the characters, despite all their issues, despite like, you know, Kate's betrayal, they're still working together to solve it. You know, like you have, you know, Sam and Emma on the one side, and you have Jordan, Marie, Kate and Andre on that thing, and they all have to, like, coalesce.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And I was talking about in the first pod, will they come together? Will they, you know, be doing this thing by themselves? I was hoping to see them come together. And the fact that through episode four, five, and six, they're, you know, so once like, quote unquote, working together and trying to figure this out piece it together. It's great.
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Starting point is 00:17:26 You're fighting for... Guy Tech Knight? Whoa. He's fighting for Tech Night, dude. Fighting for Tech Night, dude. But he's not cool at all. He's not cool at all! He's not cool at all!
Starting point is 00:17:36 He's not cool at all, baby. He's a good detective. He's a good detective. He's like Sean Spencer on crack, dog. I know, but like it's funny. I like the idea that there's this like Uber detective that can figure out everything. And like if he had even a half of an episode's worth of time more, he'd figure out this entire show. Well, that's the shitty thing.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He's still working for bot. He's working with bot, right? Well, you know, terrible blackmail shit that honestly, not the worst sexual proclivity. we've seen in this show. I don't know, man. By no means. It's not the worst, but like,
Starting point is 00:18:11 you can't be banging donuts, brother. Like, that's just, that's just, listen, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:18:18 you're completely correct. You're 100% correct. But like, at the same time, like, you know what I'm saying? If I go to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:24 you go somewhere and see some bagels, you're like, hey man, ate a bagel, but then like, you look up the footage and Tech Knight was in there with the bagels.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Now you gotta, you gotta rethink your whole light. I'm not gonna exactly say It's a victimless crime, but like a bagel in a tree. Like, that's not exactly, I don't know. It's not the worst thing you could put your dick in. If it came out on TMZ that like the Tech Knight, the fucks a bagel, I'd be like, well, I didn't get that bagel. But he was like at the table.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You know what? It's cool. That's fine. It's fine. It's not my table. It's not my table. Not my circus. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:56 I'm joking. I'm joking. Even the introduction of Tech Knight, it's the fact that like he pushes everybody forward so much in the fact that he has all these interviews with them he like pretty much takes out all of the main players to be like all right like I already know about the woods we're already figuring out that why Golden Boy couldn't handle
Starting point is 00:19:16 everything that was being brought to him I need a good reason to know why we can't just blow this whole thing up and to know that like and it puts forward the stakes of knowing that like okay clearly Vought and the school are both invested in whatever's going on in the woods
Starting point is 00:19:33 to know that they need to cover it up that well. Well, what was, what, can you remind me why he wanted the story to blow, but they're both under the same Vought umbrella? Yeah. So what would have done for him to release all that information on the school that also is under Vought? Clout, you know, like solving that story. But then he would have got fired, right? Vaugh would have been like, we're getting rid of him because he's unveiling secrets in our own institution. Well, no, he knows what happened to Goldenboy. Vought told him, he got that straight from Ashley, right? basically, like, he goes there and he's like, yeah, he went crazy, he killed Brink.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Like, I know what happened, but there's a story here. And I'm going to pin it on somebody that's innocent and, like, just clean this up for you guys. But I'm just letting you know, I know what is happening. Exactly. And she says, don't go up to the top five. And he went off the top five anyway. But it was like, none of that's boring. None of that pops.
Starting point is 00:20:26 But you are a great, Patsy. You have no powers. It's super easy. And then Chetty's like, Hold on, player. Can't get me, boom, all that footage and, you know, that's that. I think I just respect him
Starting point is 00:20:39 because he wants to always find it in the edit. That was funny. As a producer, I was like, yeah, we always find it in the edit. That's the realest thing I ever seen on the boy in the boys universe was like, ah, we'll find it in the edit. That's real.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's real. That's real. It's like, it's okay, we got it. We'll figure it out. It did seem like his appearance in the episode was like very unnecessary, but I liked it. I mean, I like the idea
Starting point is 00:21:00 of having the spy come in and read people immediately, be like you guys think you're sneaky but you're not. It's really easy to capture that because at the end of the episode it's just like here's all this shit I'm going to let out and then he just disappears. Right. And he just goes. So I'm like this entire episode he showed up
Starting point is 00:21:14 like deduced everything just. And that's kind of like if I were to push back a little bit on I think the aesthetic of the boys that both like the original show and this carries over occasionally it's part of its charm but otherwise
Starting point is 00:21:30 to know that like this character was just hung up and basically silenced over some silly sexual blackmail thing played for laughs I'm like okay I feel like we can probably do that better like if you
Starting point is 00:21:46 like bring up his cancer diagnosis and all of these things I'm like Are you caping for tech night right now? I'm not caping for tech night I think it's more of the fact that like the way in which he was disposed in the plot could have been a bit more complex rather than just being like I you put
Starting point is 00:22:02 your dick and doughnuts. But I think that's maybe why he could come back and be like, I don't care. And then just like, or if it got out regardless and then it's just like, oh, then I have nothing to lose now. And he goes, beep, and he comes out. Take the power back.
Starting point is 00:22:17 There's no mystery for Tech Night, right? The thing, he knows everything that's going on except for like maybe the woods. Only people know who's going in the woods are shedding in the doctor, right? Like explicitly, everybody has an idea what's supposed to happen in the woods. but clearly they're working on something very different.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I don't think Tech Knight is needed because, yeah, he knows all the dealings. He knows everything that's going on. I think his role in that episode is to kind of like open up the things for the kids. For Andre, hey, you're banging a golden boy's boyfriend, a girlfriend. What's up with that? And then for Marie to be like, hey, you weren't, you're not the hero, everybody thinks you are. It's Jordan, right? It's a moment for Marie and Jordan to come together.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I don't really think, like, if Checking Eye comes back, what is he solving? When he was interrogating Marie and he's like, your powers are nasty. I was like, oh, this is good. Everyone, every, like, two things. First off, it makes me upset, but it is also like, yeah, I guess you're literally, blood is literally grabbing people. It's kind of gross. And that's, like, the first insult everyone slings at Marie is always like, that's filthy blood.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And I'm like, okay, we get it. We get it. But also, do you think maybe, like, what Tech Knight is to Gen V is what Starlight was to the boys and how she released, like, she was the reason, like, everyone started figuring out that it was babies that were getting administered? Well, I think it was, like, she had a lot more going on that, like, not so much dragged that plot out, but, like, actually to, like, let it along. Tech Knight's a bit of, like, a mystery cheat code where, like, if he, again, if he had, like, a half hour more in this show, he'd figure out everything. and solve the entire thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's nothing, but there's nothing for him to figure out
Starting point is 00:24:03 what he really wanted. Now, if he, like, showed up in the boys next season and had, like, a role there because there's something else going on, and, yeah, I could see that. But, like, for this show's purpose, it doesn't really need to be there because he knows everything that's going on, you know, except for, like, the woods of virus situation. I guess him erring it out, because I'm always constantly questioning,
Starting point is 00:24:23 the stakes are very high, but it's always like, okay, at the end of the day, it's still owned by Vod. So you guys can do everything you can. You guys can fight tooth and nailville. It's like at the end of the day, it's still Vought. So who are you really fighting? Because they're going to win at the end. And unless maybe Tech Knight is one of those players that swoops in and releases all the information and then passes away slowly.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's all. I'm just imagining what they would do as a writing tactic because he does die in the comics. Very true. Well, what I'm also curious about is the show's use. of fantasy and editing tricks in its own kind of canon and story. In regards to Sam and his hallucinations with puppets and the sort of like clever fight scene that we get
Starting point is 00:25:15 that's all animated with puppets rather than actually blowing the budget on a big fight scene. How does that work for you? Does it take you out of it too much? Is it a bit too silly? Is it a bit much? Again, I'm pretty warm on this show, but sometimes the show and the universe of the boys does things that kind of pull me out of it, just for the sake of being, like, edgy. I still think it's the boys. And so it's like, and this is their bread and butter.
Starting point is 00:25:44 So it's like putting in those puppets was like, yeah, this is the boys. And the thing is, it took the boys a little bit to figure out they could be as wacky, wacky as that. The first season, they weren't that wacky. It was like, right at the second season, they were like, oh, we can do whatever we want. Let's be silly. Let's be silly. And it's running a fine line because his hallucinations usually are based on his own personal thoughts. And they're very intrusive.
Starting point is 00:26:08 They're very like things that he wants to suppress and put away. And then when he lashes out, I can't really suspend my disbelief that much to be like, all right, well, clearly they're just saving some money to blow the budget on another fight scene later. Remember how Black Noir saw the cartoons? Because it just, well, his was like repressed because once he got brain damage, it went back. So maybe from Sam's younger age, because he's had schizophrenia for a very long time. They said, like, at the beginning, it runs in their family. So it's like, Sam, even, oh, that was a sad scene where he was like, you would have been, you would have had these problems with or without the powers when he was talking to his brother.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So maybe it is something that's, like, embedded in his head of, like, my earliest memory is watching these and these puppets. And now I manifest them into, like, or, like, I cross it into, like, reality. see you when I lash out. Wait, so you didn't love the puppet scene, Steve? Not entirely, no. That's the worst take you've ever had. It was fantastic. The puppet fight scene.
Starting point is 00:27:06 The puppet scene. Horrible take. Was awesome. I liked it a lot. I think it's very much. I thought it was clever. I thought it was clever enough. It's clever because you see how Sam sees this, right?
Starting point is 00:27:19 And the devastation and the murder and all the, like, the literal bodies he's leaving. trails. Bro is, it's like a puppet. Like, you know what I'm saying? You go home, you tear a pillow, you know, you tear your teddy bear. Saturday in the world. Imagine like now, like, you're just doing that. That's like, it's not bad.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Turning a sock puppet inside out. Right. And then it gave, like, you see all the, like, the glitter and, like, the people are yelling, oh, no, I've got two kids. And the puppet, like, you know, just turns in half. And you're like, man, ha ha, it's funny. And then it turns back to real life. And you see that guy, like, literally,
Starting point is 00:27:56 hanging from a rope and his entrails coming out. And like, oh, no, he just, he just murdered all those dudes. Yeah, like, it's gross and grimy. And they're like, the way to like, you know, save a little bread, you know, and not be like as gory as, like, the show could be. But at the same time, we're seeing it from Sam's point of view and the reason why he feels like he's so messed up. Also, you don't like television's Jason Ritter?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Because I love television Jason Ritter. I like that and I like the points of the show I don't like it Oh you don't know I love the puppets I remember being like they could have They're the boys They could have pulled anybody
Starting point is 00:28:37 And I love him I love him I love him Respect television I love his father more than anything in this world I love his wife more than anything in this world But I was also like you know what have been Really weird or crazy
Starting point is 00:28:51 I mean not This is the first person that came to my mind Not a great example but Cindy Lopper. Like, you're the boys. What? Get something like massive that's ridiculous. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Because I was like, Ritter's not ridiculous. We know who he is. He's not, like, it's like, yeah, he does comedy. He's great. He's perfect. But if you got Ethan Hawk, I would have been like, what? That's weird. Why did you get Ethan Hawke?
Starting point is 00:29:10 First and, nah, this is in crazy disrespect. Didn't he like Waterworld? You will respect Dipper Binds. I love, okay. You will respect Dipper Binds. Look here. That's my home. You know I love that place.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I love Gravity Falls. But I'm just saying, he even mentioned. in Waterworld. What if you got, what's his name from Waterworld? Kevin Costner? Kevin Costs. Oh, he's busy right now, I guess. He's busy by the Taylor Sheridan got him in a 360 deal. That boy is divorcing himself from Yellowstone. He's like, please get me out of here.
Starting point is 00:29:41 But that would have even been, that would, and that would have been a funny callback to be like, Kevin Waterworld's Kevin Costner? And he's just like, yep. I don't know if they got Kevin Costner money. I don't know. Taylor Sheridan's barely got Kevin Costner money. Well, it's still Amazon money. So that's where I'm holding out hope. I'm like, I don't know. the Bezos Bucks Mac Night. I don't know, man. They had Bosch money, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:58 So anything's possible. Listen, again, I'm going to say, most famous person is Clancy Brown in his cast so far. Hey, you know who they did get, though? For episode six, Soldier Boy. Okay. So let's talk about this. I usually was going to grit my teeth at whatever inevitable boys
Starting point is 00:30:15 cameo was going to come this way. I genuinely liked this. Yeah. I liked this a lot because it doesn't count. Because it's not real. Because it's not real. and he's just and Soldier Boy is just saying a bunch of bullshit that would have been in like in his lexicon anyway
Starting point is 00:30:32 You know what my favorite part about it is because she was, it was her little crush when she was younger, right? Right. And everyone looked up to this man as a hero. So when he got mad about the Vietnam part, it was because like in her memory, this is the hero.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It's her internalized version of him. That's the hero version of him, not the monster weirdo that we all see. Well, I don't know. Her internalized version of him is gross. He's, yeah. Real gross.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, of course. I've been a teenager that was like, oh, I'm in love with this. I'm not going to say who the person is because they're a horrible person today. But when we're in middle school, we all love the same rapper who's now horrible as a human being. No, we all, 2006, I was in love with Chris Brown. And I was like, ooh, put him on a mantle. Clearly, he's a horrible person now. But if you went deep into the deep recesses of my mind, went to 2006 Jessica Clemage, you might see him there.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Dancing really hard with that top hat in a white suit. No, I mean, he was wilding. Toulja boy was wilding. And I think it was like that whole episode going into Kate's mind and finding out her backstory, despite the fact we lost that like that 28 year old little college boy. Rest of peace to him, he got blown up by a 28 year old little guy. He was on a bunch of drugs. And the only part where I was like, damn, I feel really bad for this boy.
Starting point is 00:31:48 He was he was like, I don't even like Kate. He was like that's not going to do with me. That's see was so funny because there. I'm like looking at them and then like turn around simultaneously like... Oh, that was clearly like a Star Trek red shirt moment where I'm like, this guy's gonna die. For sure, he's gonna die in her room.
Starting point is 00:32:01 He got cooked by Tom Shady, bro. It's tough. It happens to the best of us. But yeah, I thought that episode did a pretty good job. Again, like, Soldier Boy is like, you know, what she thought of him as, like, as a child. And then going into like realizing, like, oh, what happened to her losing, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:16 her brother because of her powers? And then having her mom be afraid of her. Like, that's like the kind of stuff that has to mess you up. Like it just has to. You know, it's insane is that, and maybe we just didn't see it. She didn't go directly to the Red River Institute.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Her mom kept her and then someone came and took her away. Right. In a very compassionate scene that, like, would have gotten the best of it. It was the same thing that Jean-Carla Esposito, he did with his daughter. It was like, I love you. You are my sweetness. We're also both evil. You are my sweetness.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You are my sweetness and we are evil. But I was like, that's where I was like, oh, the people have fought when they take over a life of a child that's a super, They're like very sweet. It's abusive, clearly. It's like, they're like, we're going to, no, you're going to love it here. We're going to use your powers for good. Which is interesting because Shetty mentions that, so the doctor of Cardoza is like, hey, Marie, she's got that crazy blood.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I need her. And then Shetty's like, she's untouchable. She has a benefactor. Right? We don't know who that is. But to your point, Jess, when somebody in the VAT, you know, takes, you know, is like, I'm interested in that person. It's never for great reasons.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Right. So in the next two episodes, I know we're not looking ahead yet, but that's something to think about. Like, who has interest in Marie to keep her safe from all the BS that's happening? That's going to be the cameo from the boys. That has, that, that's probably going to be something, not someone big from the boys. I don't think it's going to be. Homelander comes up.
Starting point is 00:33:45 It's my girl. That's my girl. That's my girl. It would be like, so I'm trying to think of someone that was small, not the VP. not Jean-Carlo. I'm trying to think... Ashley, please God. Wait, no, hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:57 No, Ashley could. Ashley could, because I don't know if... Oh, man, it's not a spoiler because it's like one of the things that we see in episode seven, like the teaser. She talks to... Marie is talking to Victoria Newman, so maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Maybe you got a point there. I want you really quick, because I might be completely off. I remember that trailer and thinking, oh my gosh, she's talking to Victoria Newman. But the cut, I didn't know if she was talking to Victoria Newman or the girl at the... at the event, the event, which I think is just the woman in the show.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Because they look very similar, Victoria Newman and that woman that is trying to make that potion. Sheddy? Yeah. Potentially evil-looking brunettes is this show's bread and butter. And it's like these thick eyebrows, very gorgeous women that are always wearing like business suits walking into long hallways. It's like, you will listen to me. And I'm like, I will. Everybody who could possibly play Talia al-Goole is in the show.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I was like literally Talia Agoals, all of them. But it could be, it would be insane if it'd be Ashton. I hope not as Ashley. Ashton is my like after Homeland or that's my number one op. I need her pack expeditiously. It wouldn't make sense for her to get, what I'm imagining is someone's trying to get either. It's not, it's not Tech Night. Tech Night would be not. My favorite person ever?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Don't say that. That's gross. That sense is weird. That's weird. That's weird. You stand for Tech Knight. Out of all the characters. Not the worst person.
Starting point is 00:35:20 That would be like a Grayson Allen stand. Like, why would you do that to yourself? There are better options. There are definitely worse ones. That's true. That's true. But I'm also like, that's just like, though. That's such a weird.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I'm literally kicking my poison. Jess, right here. This is a POC corner right here. Okay. He found one white man he could root for. Oh, my God. Here we go. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Of all the white men on the show, you could have run with. You could, yeah, that's true. That's nuts. Clancy Brown? Who was I going to run with? That's what I'm saying. Go the boy. Sam, we feel bad for Sam.
Starting point is 00:35:54 We feel terrible for Sam. He's very sweet. I do want to have a quick Sam quarter because I think that he, again, acting performance. Incredible. Have you seen him on social media? Because it doesn't exist. He just started social media. I don't know where this boy came from or where he's done.
Starting point is 00:36:08 He's really good. He came from the mud. Came on the streets. Shut up, Jopmy. He's a lot of 21. He did. It's an interesting thing that Amazon is doing, which I'm very for. they, because even the summer I term pretty, all new people.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It was like, yeah, we got these people straight out of college. We don't know, they have not done anything but this. And that's what they did with Sam. That's what they did with Sam. He just came out of nowhere and he's a phenomenal actor. So good. So good. Like him, the scene where they're, him and Emma after, they're coyotes, they're laying in bed.
Starting point is 00:36:39 That's so cute. Yeah, it's like really nice and sweet, even though, like, he's clearly, like, freaking out. Yes. But he's, you know, trying to be cool and Emma's, like, reassuring him. They're tender. And like, it's like, oh, like, in, like, not in real life, but like, you just met this dude, you know, and like, maybe like two weeks. And you're already acting like all this soft and things. It's like, normally I'd be like, ah, it's cheesy.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Like, this is kind of lame. But their performances, I buy, I buy it. I buy it. They're so good together. And I remember watching, when I was watching it, I was like, look here, if one of them get hurt or they get torn apart before I get to, like, I'm going to freak out. I was like, I'm going to lose my shit. I just need them to say, like, I love you, or just show that they are, they, the entire time up until that moment, they were just like, it was like dancing.
Starting point is 00:37:25 They were like, no, you can't, they can't say that they love each other because then once that happens, one of them has to die. But now that they have sex, one of them is going to die. And now I'm, and I can't be Emma. And I'm sorry, because I love Emma. I was worried, I was worried when she got, they got their minds erased. I was like, when she hid behind, I was like, no. I was like, you guys are hurting this boy.
Starting point is 00:37:47 He has broken out of this. He's broken out of this for you. He killed everybody to get to you. Wait, that's crazy. But everything else is perfect. I love Sam. And I'm so happy that between, I'm sure that Arnold Schwarzenegger's son was also auditioning for that part because he was like, oh, I can be in one episode or I can be in the entire season. And they were like, we're going to go with this boy really quick.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And it's because he gives off this just like sad, sweet, innocent, like, he's just a sweet boy. For sure. I did such a good job. Does a great job. I think that's part of like the magic of the show was like I think we mentioned in the first pod but outside of Emma I don't think I recognize any of these acts
Starting point is 00:38:24 literally nobody What do you know Emma from? Oh God American Pie. There's American Pie Girls. Oh yes we talked about this. That's you know listen the pandemic was tough for everybody okay Not a lot of stuff to have a VOD phase
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah you know what I'm saying I was locked in on the romantic comedies on Netflix and that was one of them So you know like just you know Come in some slack And that's so interesting because 24. And that's, you know, that's the most interesting part. You went for American Pie and didn't go for like Sabrina where Marie is from. No, I was not watching. Sabrina and that's witchcraft. I can't have that in my house. What the fuck's wrong?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Parents are deeply anti-witchie. Can't have, can have a, can have a, can't have, well, not, me. I can't, I don't. No, there's no Ouija boards in my house. We don't invite the, we don't invite the devil. Have you seen Harry Potter? You're not a Harry Potter guy? Well, I mean, I'm not a Harry Potter guy trying to read the books. What about? What about? Pocus, pocus. I don't mind. I'm not really like, Ouija boards for real though Wichibos for in my mouth
Starting point is 00:39:21 At my last job we were like oh let's play with a Ouija board on stream and I remember I having to go to the producer and be like I don't fuck with Ouija board I was like I don't fuck a Ouija board
Starting point is 00:39:30 If I say that in front of a bunch of comedians are gonna laugh And be like Jessica But I was like You had to take a producer aside I'm like not touching that goddamn Ouji board You're out of your mind If there is something that's real
Starting point is 00:39:40 Why would I want to mess with it? I'd rather just stick to my own lane And keep doing it I watch the teenage witch as a kid like with the TikTok and cat, like that was all fun in games. But like, I remember in college, some of the home girls from like across the hall, they were like, we're going to do a Ouija board. And I was like, not in my place, you're not.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Not here. Not here. Like, they were like, you guys can leave. We're just like, I don't, uh-uh. I don't want no spirits. You don't want the residual spirits. I don't want the residual spirits. Oh, we're doing the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:40:02 No. That's where like I poop and I shower. I don't want ghosts anywhere. That's where the ghosts are coming. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Don't catch me on my pants down? Don't catch me with my draws down?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Hell not. Naked? Exactly. No. No. Is there someone here? That will not occur under my rooftop. If you're here, show yourself while you're on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'm not like, again, like, which crap is all that's fine. Ouija boards, that's why I drive the line. Ah, you got to have a line of demarcation. That's right. I feel it. I feel it. Well, this was a bad time to spoil that we're going to be doing a Ouija board live. Not with me.
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Starting point is 00:41:32 So a lot of strengths in this show. Yeah. A lot of great things that happen. Can we think of any like of the wildest things that were said in these last three seasons? Nothing too raunchy that I can think of off the top of my head other than a few things that I've written down. For me, I think this is going to be a viral to talk sound about two weeks, so get ready. When Andre's like, you're a weird dude. So your boy's like, knock, knock, who's there?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Fuck your face. That's going to go crazy. I don't understand the template for that. Well, it's pretty simple, right? Yeah, but what can we get people doing while that sound plays? So here's a day. So now I've got to explain social media to you. And like, this is like tough, right?
Starting point is 00:42:13 So basically you'll have like, let's say like, So the first part he talks about like his blood, right? And you'll just like imagine like you have like a whole bunch of like care bears in your house, right? And you just like, it's you with a whole bunch of care bears. And he's talking about how much you love the care bears. And then the on-drop code is like, you're a weird fucking dude. And then you go knock, knock who's there, fuck your own face to defend your weird care bears. I have one, I have one.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's a truncated fuck you. Can you get one that says POV when they, aren't you too old for that? Exactly. Knock, knife. All right. Fuck your own face. It's like when somebody tacked something that you love,
Starting point is 00:42:52 you go knock, knock who's there, fuck your face, and they call you weird for liking it. Okay. There you go. That's why I could pay the social media dollars, baby. I was too busy with my Ouija board. What?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, I can tell. Get that shit out of here. Turning Johnny Depp into a verb, I'm going to Johnny Depp someone so hard. Wow. That's why. What does that mean? I had to Google that.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I had no idea what was talking about. It's when my guy Tech Knight was, he's like, oh, so you're just going to pin this on a random innocent person? And he's like, yes, I'm going to jump somebody so hard that they're going to want to just curl up and die. What does that mean? Let's not go into that. I was not locked in there.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Maverick and his goat love. A lot of unpack there. I don't want to unpack that, actually. I just want that to be weird and gross. I can live with that. I can live with Maverick bring the like one of it. Think about it. Like, think about everything that happens in the boys
Starting point is 00:43:44 and how Maverick is like quietly top five worst people. Yes. Yeah, easy. Easy, right? Like, of all this stuff that happens in the boys universe, Maverick is genuinely like top five.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He would, I mean, like his dad dying, you know, not rest in peace because he was also a creep, like, you know, brings him up. But clearly the, you know, the bad patterns continue. Who is that? Translucent. His dad was translucent. Did I miss that completely?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Did I make that up? He does have a chance. That's why I'm saying. The math is mathing of that could be his child. Okay, but here's the thing. Maverick is such a piece of shit that I don't know why Jordan would like confide in him. I think everyone sees him as an R.A. Before seeing the horrible things they do because everyone on campus is so horrible.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Why would you make that man an R.A.? I don't know. Yeah, no. Maverick is his son. Yeah. That's insane. I just think they both have the same power. It's just like, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That is true. That is true. That's actually good to note that like people that are. because like Homelanders son does have his direct power. And Pilarity is why you get him an R. A's a Nepo baby. That's why. Oh. Is it?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Well, I mean, Andre is too. I thought no one wanted to be an art. I know. But it's like you secure, like you're going to get shitty grades and you can probably just like Co-Housing, you know, right? Oh, you get free housing. Yeah. Like Polarity and Andre, right? Like, Polarity also has Is his power the same as Andres?
Starting point is 00:45:06 I think they're similar. I know, um, I imagine is like, since that's a little undefined for me. Like he's just like, okay. I can shape things. And shape things. And like, I can, I don't know. Well, one of the interesting things about Andre is that I don't know if you guys notice this,
Starting point is 00:45:23 but every episode where there's like a fight scene, he always takes the big hit. That is true. He gets smacked around by Sam in episode four and six. Like, they send him to the crib with ease. The last thing I would do is step in any fight with Sam. I guess he didn't know that. He didn't know yet that this man has been punching holes through like Millennium Doors. He folded him, though, in that house.
Starting point is 00:45:48 God damn. And then once he got a hold of Kate, I was like, no, she's like a twig to him. Like, stop, stop. It was, that was insane. That fight was wild as hell. Yeah, he's got like the same, like similar powers, magnetism, manipulation. I just, I just need my direct X-Men comps for all these kids too quickly because like every time I kind of forget what their powers are until they're exactly on display. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 for some of these. Like, obviously, we, like, we have, like, some, you know, twists on the classics, but a couple of times I'm just like, oh, wait, yeah, they do that now. My whole thing is I always forget that they, like, most of them, if not all of them, just also have super strength.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah, that's just a generic, it's just like, yeah, we all have it. And I'm like, but what if you're that superpowered person that's just strong? Because I'm like... Tough, tough. That's why you're not in the top 100. That's why there's no just, like, strong people on the 7, right?
Starting point is 00:46:38 That's technically Sam, right? Sam is just strong. Kind of. He's also insane. That's not a power. That's not a power, but it helps. I'm going to guess that there's more going on there. You think he has laser eyes?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Maybe. I think he's just strong. He might be one of those Uber mentions that he has yet to unlock all of his potential. Maybe. He could be like Jack Jack in the Incredibles. Like he could do it all. I think, I mean, part of, I think, and that scene where Brink is trying to, like, transfer some of his strength to Golden Boy or something like that,
Starting point is 00:47:06 maybe he's just, like, one of the strongest characters in that. in that universe, right? As far as we know. And he's like, he's wasting his powers being strong, how you're being like kind of crazy. Why don't we, you know, try and get some to so old golden boy so we can like push him up, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:25 I thought that was interesting thing. Like, again, looking at Kate and her role and the whole woods thing. Like, she was very instrumental in being like, hey, buddy, forget that we're trying to, you know, your brother's dead and forget that we're trying to like boost you, you know? It's a, but I think that's part of like,
Starting point is 00:47:41 Sam's got to be, like, crazy strong, like, levels we haven't seen. Well, that's something that I actually want to, like, piggyback off of and see where we're going in these next three episodes. Two? Two? Two, excuse me, two episodes. I know. Vaught wants to, well, the people in the woods want to look to control all these kids and make them either as sick as possible or nerf them as possible so that they could either harness their powers, control them. Where do we think these last few episodes are going to go as far as this woods?
Starting point is 00:48:13 plot line? Are they trying to like, are they like, are they going to pull a secret invasion and make a super scroll out of this? No, I think they're going to... Don't even, don't even get a joke like that. I think they're going to make that serum that takes away people's powers and then that will be going into the next season. Take away people's powers. Yeah, because he was like,
Starting point is 00:48:31 didn't they talk about in there that like, didn't they end the episode with her saying like, now get rid of the power? Like how to see how sick we should, we can make her. We're not submitting the report yet. Wait, no, I mean, that's what the episode started, right? She was coughing and her powers didn't work. And she was like, up the doses. Let's see what happens.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Then the episode ends and Cardosa is like freaking out. And we see her dead on the floor with like boils all over. And he's like, I just up did five mil. Like what the hell? This was supposed to happen. I thought she'd get like a fever. If that. And Shady is like, this is the best day of my life.
Starting point is 00:49:06 How can we make it contagious? Yeah. And I'm like. I took it as they want to like literally. Kill all suits. Yeah. They want to. Not even kill if they, or maybe she does want to kill them.
Starting point is 00:49:15 But I was taking it as like, what is that thing in Marvel? I think it is an X-Men how they got the X-Gene and like this. Yeah, yeah, I know what you don't know. I think they want to expel that and then a bunch of people lose their powers. Right. And I think they're trying to reverse. They're trying to reverse take away people's powers. I don't think they're going to.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I think like her and butcher got like a deal going on. I'm sorry. Well, no, that's kind of what it is. Like you. So she's actually a good person? Well, a good person as we define it. She's a good person. If this was the boys, right?
Starting point is 00:49:46 If she was working for the boys, you'd be like, hey, she's part of the team. But now that she's working, like, we're with the kids at God you, which, by the way, crazy name, God you, it's like, hey, this university we become a God. You know what I'm saying? We put you on that kind of high status. Think about it. Keep your throat eye open. So God in elementary school has got him.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Jesus Christ, man. We was cooking and you just... I'm fun. You just spray the water all over. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm fun. Like a fire.
Starting point is 00:50:12 You're like a firefighter. Nah. And so, like, if we, the kids are like, and like, they're, see, now you ruin my whole flow. Oh, my God. God. I was going off the dome and you, you spoiled it. Not, but the kids. Mine for fun.
Starting point is 00:50:26 If it was the boys and she was working on a bunch of me, like, hey, you're on the team. But now that, like, we're with the kids and where you, like, really identified with them, we're like, yo, she's kind of wilding a little bit. You know what I mean? I don't, obviously, I don't think she's actually working with her butcher because, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's nuts. But at the same time, it's interesting, though, how, like, our views are flipped depending on, like, who we're spending time with. At the same time, it's very interesting how she's doing.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Because, again, she's, like, the dean at God you. She's supposed to be working with all these superpowers. But she's used, like, we don't know exactly what the woods is for, but she's using it as her own testing rounds to get rid of all soups, which is not what the woods is for. I don't think so. No, it's about, it's about, like, either harnessing, controlling, nerfing, manipulating powers. But there's more than one person working in the woods. Like every time that guy does surgery, there's other nurses there.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Exactly. So that's why I'm like... If she's running it and she wants to make them as sick as possible, and she's elated by the idea. No, she just... Again, not as sick as possible. Murder. So Vot knows of the woods.
Starting point is 00:51:31 They just don't know that she's trying to kill people in the woods. Kill suits. So what do you think she's telling Ashley she's doing in the woods? I mean, right, hey man, yeah, we are just like, We're working on it. Yeah, you know. We're not working on some children. Yeah, this one kid we had to dissect.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, he had like metal legs for powers. It's the fact that she's stalling. It's the fact that she's delaying that report. She's delaying her results to Vot, that she clearly has her own agenda. And if we take it to the nth degree, like it seems like she wants to kill Suz. She absolutely does. And if she aligns herself with the likes of Butcher, maybe not like, you know, like her, like she has a team up. But like, if she's thinking like Butcher is, that's a crazy term.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But here's the thing, though, like, we know Billy Butcher very well. Right. He got his hands on that. Yeah, that's going in the water supply. Yeah, he's like, everybody's taking it now. You know what I'm saying? He's just, she's spraying that. Like, he's going to the Seven Tower and he's shoving it in Homelander's nose.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Right. Right. Like, immediately, you know what I mean? Like, so we know what he's going to do with that. I'm interested to see what she would do, what Shetty's going to do with it. I imagine it's kind of like the blackmail scene we saw with Tech Night. it's a bargaining chip. He's like, hey, soups, I'm done,
Starting point is 00:52:43 I can't do this no more, I'm out. If y'all mess with me, if y'all come at me, I will release this into the world and it will kill every single person that has come in contact with Compound V ever. So leave me alone. That's my thought process,
Starting point is 00:52:59 but I'm interested, like, because I'm like, yo, she is not part of the team. I thought she was like, you know, team vaught, but it clearly is not like, you know, sipping the Kool-Aid anymore. So I'm interested to see how far she's willing to take that. And I think that's kind of the interesting ethos of the world of the boys to where what terrible things are you willing to do to get rid of the thing that you think is
Starting point is 00:53:22 the most evil or the worst part of people in general. Because that's what butcher is, that's what the idea that we're flirting with now is with Gen V to the expense of killing kids in college. Like, it's terrible. You got to crack a few eggs. I got to crack a few legs. No. Hey.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I'm not the one run in the woods. It's so interesting because it's like what happened her that made her hate soup so bad. Because it has to be something. Because that's the shitty thing. And maybe she is a good person in the husk of a bad person. Because she's like, she saw, she was the one that took Kate. She's like, I saw Kate. I see what they do with the orphans at the Red River Institute.
Starting point is 00:54:07 That's why I'm rooting for you here. Marie. Like maybe she is like, I'm seeing a bunch of kids. Because we also remember at the very beginning, that one kid that gets taken to that place beyond the Red River Institute, where the kids that are like just 18 but still didn't get picked up, they go somewhere else. She's probably like, I know what that place is. It's fucking horrible. You know how easy these kids would be adopted if they just didn't have the powers? Yeah. So it could be like, she's not trying to kill them still. She's just trying to get rid of their powers. Or maybe she also has horrible powers and she's trying to get rid of them first.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I think she's human, no, she's human, though. I'm going to guess that she's at least a little bit evil and wants to kill people. I mean, I think everybody in the boys is a little bit evil
Starting point is 00:54:44 and has killed someone. Or a little too, a lot of it evil. Man, imagine, like, imagine like one of the, like somebody in a boys, like try to give you problems or something.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Like, yo, Jess, man, I can't believe you left your shoes out there, man, like, put your shoes or like, don't walk in my house with shoes on. I'd be like, brother, you're a murderer. Don't ever tell me what to do.
Starting point is 00:55:05 You're a murderer. Don't ever tell me out. I'm going to take this tape of you doing God knows what on Instagram. See if you can take that PR hit. It's cool to be respectful. You know what I'm saying? By the same time, brother, you're not going to come at me for what I'm doing. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Like, it's just not how that goes. You're a murder. That's how I feel about A-Train. If A-Train tries anything, I'm like, I don't know who you are. So I got like a confession. Like, you know how he likes Tech Knight? Honey. You like A-Train?
Starting point is 00:55:32 Honey. You cape for A-Train? I hate the Deep. The Deep is funny. Oh, you love the deep. He's a funny character. He's terrible. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:39 He's the worst character. But every time Chase Coffert, I don't know what it is about Chase Crawford. Chase Coffert is hilarious. Well, his character is actually, like, funny. His character is a funny character. It's a funny character. Your character is weird. So I don't like the Deep.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I love Chase Coffert. But yeah. I love Chase Coffert. I don't know. Like, every time he shows up on screen, like, he's going to do something stupid. Like, he's like the scene in the boys with the dolphin. That seems really funny. hilarious.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Just out hilarious. Again, I don't like the character, but every time I see Chase Crawford on screen, I'm like, something funny is about to happen. You know what I mean? So I don't like the deep as a human being. I think he's a terrible, gross, disgusting. But the way Chase Crawford plays him is like, oh, he's going to do something really funny that's like definitely going to liven up the episode
Starting point is 00:56:25 and make me laugh my ass off, you know? So, like, I don't like the deep. I'm not like a tech, I'm not a technine stand or like a deep stand. But the way Chase Crawford plays him, I'm like, man. Something really dumb and stupid, hilarious is going to happen. For our show, we should all dress up as our favorite members of the boys, so you would be the deep. I'm not putting gills on me. I'm not putting gills.
Starting point is 00:56:46 So 19-piece suit? No, I'm not going to wear 19-piece suit? Dude, it's going to be hot up there. And look at people sweat and then be like, you're lying. You're lying. Your powers are nasty. All these characters are, like, somewhat awful. So, like, having a favorite boys.
Starting point is 00:57:00 My favorite character is made, and she's a great person. She's good. Well, okay, well, okay, way to be cool. Wow. That's the airplane where she wanted to save people. But could it? My favorite lie from Maeve, get you in your fucking twink out of here. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I think the one character, like, well, two characters. You can't like Stormfront for obvious reasons. Of course. You can't do Homelander either. Nope. I think everybody else is like, like, you know, again, like, there are levels to it. I don't think like anybody's going to go around a champion Billy Butcher as like a human rights guy or like, you know what I mean? A-Train, right?
Starting point is 00:57:34 but like, you know. I did fight for Black Noir. Black, yeah, that season of his, I was like, oh, no. So what would be nice to him? He was supposed to be in, what was it, the Eddie Murphy movie? Yeah. With Nick Dulte, right? Yeah, what was the movie?
Starting point is 00:57:49 24 hours? No, it was, I thought it was Beverly Hills Cop. Wasn't it? Oh, Beverly Hills. He was like, I auditioned for that. I was supposed to get that role. You know what I mean? Like, for most part, you know, everybody's like not great, but like, if you're like,
Starting point is 00:58:02 hey, man, you know who I've read the thing's cool? Homelander. I'm putting going on this, buddy. I'm like, ooh. Someone with the new Omneman and Homelander characters that you can play as in the video game. My friend was, yeah, Moro Kombat. Yeah, Moro Kombat. My friend was like, yeah, man, Homelander's way cooler than Omni Man. I was like,
Starting point is 00:58:18 that. What you mean by that? What you mean by that? What you mean by that? What you mean by that? What you mean by that? What you mean by that? Omni Man would beat literally. Beat the brakes off that point. Homelander ain't got it like that. Homelander ain't been in the streets like Omni man. rather. It's not happening.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's a Viltrumite, okay? And we on the Ringervor's here on Mint Edition, we'll leave you to it. Because this has been our great show. It's been great. We love it. We're going to be back again to talk about the finale of Gen V when that drops as well. So stick around for that.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And don't worry, because we've got more Ringervor's goodness coming to you soon. On Monday, Button Match is going to be giving you their deep dive into Spider-Man 2. Monday as well, House of R, their deep dive into Loki, episode 3. button matchback on Wednesday for Super Mario, Thursday, Midnight Boys for Loki, and Splash Page, whenever it happens. Whenever it happens.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Thank you so much to our producer Kerm as always. Jomi, Jess, any parting words? Hey, man, you know, again, I always want to say thank you to all the fans that are listening. We love you, Junior Mintz. Appreciate you guys for doing what you do. Got a shout out. Number one producer at the ringer.com.
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