The Ringer-Verse - 'Gen V' Season 2 Premiere Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

The boys are back in school at Godolkin University to discuss the brand-new season premiere of 'Gen V.' They discuss why they loved the show last season and what it gets right in these first three new episodes (00:00). They also talk about how the show adapts to the passing of one of its stars, Chance Perdomo. Then they get into the show's new villain and how this story may relate to the final season of 'The Boys.' (0:00) Intro (09:24) Reactions to ‘Gen V’ Season 2 Premiere (1:05:46) Outro Hosts: Van Lathan, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris and Jade Whaley Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's got answers. Old Man, Van, he has the receding with Surgeoning Hairline. Together, we are known as The Midnight Boys. Charles is not here. Not here. Not here. He's on vacation. Couldn't talk about GenVee.

He was like, I'm not. I'm not locking it. I wonder if you watched it. He definitely did it. I bet you did not. I know for a fact he did not. You know for a fact he did not? No.

I thought you said he definitely did. No, he did not. Just like checking in. Did he watch the last season of Jim? No. That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. He's,

he's fucking saw it. He's out somewhere. He's watching Mugul Jin Pie or something like that. Okay, wait a minute. Isn't that the name of the Demon Slayer? Demon Slayer Mugentrain? Mugentrain. I can't wait.

I'm seeing it this weekend. Oh, my God, I can't wait. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, let him, let him experience it. Yeah. Let him have his time. No, we're a little scared. Don't, who's scared?

I'm not scared. Nobody's scared. Okay. Who's scared? Nobody's scared. Don't listen to him. He's just talking. He's just making noise.

Is it scary? No, no, no. It's not scary. I'm very excited for you to see it. Yeah. The movie's a hit. I can't wait. As soon as you watch it.

What did it come in at? It came up at like 70 million. It's opening weekend. Yeah. The highest for an anime ever. I think it may be like. And the highest, I think, domestically for a foreign film. It crossed 100 or 50 or sorry.

It crossed half a billion over the weekend. Half a billion. What did it do? in the United States. Like 70 million opening weekend. Right. Made some money. Make some money.

70 million is very, very, very amazing. As soon as you're done, make sure to hit the group, chat. Just let us know how you enjoyed it over. I've seen it. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.

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Castle is a movie we're talking about right now. Okay, so Infinity is not moving train. That's the first movie. I was about to show up for Mugan train. And then I was, and they would have been lost. No, yeah. No. You got to watch your deep dives.

All right. You, yeah, yeah. Fals on socials, Instagram, and TikTok. Jomey? TikTok, Facebook, the Instagram, they're all doing great. Want to give a shout out to ring a tailgate.

You guys are out there doing y'all thing. We were at the crew on Saturday. You were doing the college football show. It was, uh, it was fun watching Arch, uh, Miss Easy, Simple throws that any of us could have made. Arch Manning, man.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's Archman. Day. Isn't it? Okay? You guys ever see Empire Records? Yeah. And it was Rex Manning Day.

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com backslash at Ringoververse and also on Spotify. This week, House of R will be doing their peacemaker midseason checking in along with an interview with James Gunn. Pew Pew. James Gun.

James Gun is making a lot of news. He's out there, man. How do you guys feel about James Gunn's approach to running the major comic book movie studio? I mean, I think it's going to be proven. I do want your BS. That's why I asked. Steve? I think it's going to be proven more when the second, when a thing that isn't his to direct comes out that he didn't write, that's when I'm curious how that's handled.

Because not only is he going to be like the kind of the spearhead of the now marketing of like what this vision for his DC is going to, look like, but how does he incorporate other directors' visions for their one shot at a movie? I want to see how that is portrayed. You know, man, I think he's doing the best he can. There's not a ton of great DC properties out there. It's really just Superman that exist in the DC universe. There's no other characters that exist. So with that given, I think he's doing a pretty great job.

I feel like you're saying something that you're not saying. I'm just saying, I think that with, again, all the restraints that he has, because obviously there's restraints. He doesn't have free reign of all the D.C. properties, right? He doesn't have that. So obviously, with just having Superman at his disposal, I think he's doing a great job at that. Interesting.

It seems like you're not fucking with it. Not really, no. Okay. Also on Friday, Buttonmash gives you their reactions to Borderlands 4. Yes. Borderlands 4. Now, they made a movie out of the Borderlands. They did.

A great movie. Fantastic. Was it really good? No, it was terrible. It was the worst paned movie of that year. Right, people fucking hated it. Yes. Yeah, the Borderlands movie, they hated the Borderlands movie. But yet the game, the saga continues.

I mean, yes, I've been playing it as well. It's interesting. It's conflicting. It's a beloved series, but it's, for some standards, it's a bit long in the tooth for me. Oh, yeah? We're going with Borderlands? Yeah. Society has developed past the need for New Borderlands? Maybe. Maybe more so for Randy,

Pitchford the head of that game in general. When is it time to make no more games? What I mean is in a series. Is it ever time? Is it ever time to say no more games in a series? I mean, would you say no more Madden? No more Call of Duty? That's what there's a difference.

There's a difference in Madden is that it would be different if like, because call a do, let's say Call of Duty and this would be crazy if they did this. Let's say Call of Duty was connected to a different skirmish. it had to be connected to a skirmish, which would be fucking terrible. Like a real world conflict? Right. Okay.

So every time there was a new skirmish, they dropped a new call of duty. Sure. Which was kind of what they did. It was like Vietnam. They've done World War II. They've done the big skirmishes that we are far enough away from

to be able to do them and nobody's going to have a problem with it. But if they did, I'm not going to name any real skirmishes because I'm going to go down that. But if they were dropping those call of duties like that, that would be a problematic. And I would be like, oh, okay.

But Madden, every year they're reflecting new players. Like you can't play Madden in 2011 and get the same feeling that you could get from playing Madden now because there are players in the league in 2011 that are in the league now, obviously, and then they're new guys.

So you want to play Madden with Patrick Mahomes. You can't do that for Matthews. So there's always a reason for the game to continue to come out. Like for any game series, I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying that you have to stop the game series. I'm just asking, is there,

ever a point to where you go, we've told enough stories, we've done enough stuff, we have no more game series. That's an interesting question because when it comes to something like Madden, in my opinion, I don't understand why they don't make that just a live service game. Like, they can. They can, but they don't because there's less money. There's way less money. They should just update the rosters. Update rosters, make gameplay tweaks every other year or something like that. 2999 for the whole new roster. But to act like you're, but to act like Madden 26 is any that much different from 25 is insane to me. And it's never going to be.

And I think the people that think that 2K is going to not be like basically a simulated casino that just happens to play basketball, we can do a lot better. I think for like those RPGs that are like long in the tooth, like Final Fantasy and stuff like that, there's always going to be more because there are always new stories to tell. You made me think about it now that like it's on my mind. Call of Duty doesn't really go past World War I. Right. What if there was the Civil War II?

or Call of Duty or like the Revolution. Well, you don't really have gun action in Civil War. That would be because then you just got to like load the musket. No, that's not what they should do. What they should do, oh no. Is they should do Call of Duty Civil War, but they should let us go back to the Civil War with the modern warfare weapon packs. Oh my gosh.

That's what they should. Okay, so it's time travel black ops. Oh, no, it's call of duty, advanced warfare, Civil War. Yeah. And so you've got to time travel your way back. It's like when the one with John Snow, where he's in there. Right. And he travels all the way back to 1861, and he's out there for Sumpter.

And he's like, yo, we got to be on the... And his homies there are fighting for the Alamo or something. And his other homies like, yo, I'm going to be on the South. He's like, you can't do that. And that's the final showdown. Well, you would learn a lot about your friends, right? Because you would come home or you show up at your friend's house, and they had the game paused. And they would be going through a campaign.

And they would be going through a campaign like As a Confederacy. and you'll be like, Wow. You know, there are civil war games where you pick sides. Yeah, I bet you've played them. All right. And the Midnight Boys, we'll be back

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which is giving instant reactions to the season premiere of GenV, season two. Now, this is three episodes of television. It's a lot. But they've premiered with. Very dense. And if you watched it back to back to back like I did, it was a very specific experience. I'm wondering, I'm wondering whether or not a lot of the people that are listening to this right now

will take the full plunge or whether or not they've watched one episode, two episodes, or three episodes. It's fantastic. All right. Gen V. Spoiler warning. Do it now. We're getting ready to talk about the boys. You're listening to a reaction.

podcast. The spoilers are coming. Now, we have to do the Midnight Manifest. Who's doing it? I think that we might need to skip it this week, only because there's a lot to cover. And there's no Charles. And there's no Charles. It's kind of Charles's thing.

It is kind of Charles's thing. Like, Charles does the manifest. We've tried it a couple of times, and it's got, it's been fun, but the sauce isn't there. Who tried to do the Manifference? And you fucked it up. That's not true. You didn't fuck it up. You guys just said, I went too long. Which, again, there's a lot of episodes. lot of stuff going on.

Yeah. You want to get the details across. Also, you're doing the manifest for three episodes is real tough. It's a lot. We'll wait for Chuck to come back. All right. Now, boom, boom. Before we go forward or before we get into the now, let's talk about the past.

What did you guys think about the first season of GenV? I loved it. I remember when it was announced we weren't too sure about what it was going to look like. Again, the thing with the boys was always, it was making fun of all these, the superhero landscape with all the spinoffs and things of that nature. And so for them to do it, we're kind of like, all right, you guys are not, you guys are taking the piss, you're not being serious. And this show came on and it was impressive.

It blew, at least it blew my mind in every which way to the point where when we did the first season at the end of the year, I named it the best show of 2023. There were some actual competition, but this show took me all the way by surprise. I was not expecting not only to get like the same level of like intensity and mystery that the boys offers, but for it to like, do it in like a way for like, you know, it's, it's teenager. They're college kids, you know what I'm saying? We think these ideas only work for the adults and the higher, like the soups in that universe.

But no, the kids have similar issues. And the way that they presented it was just amazing and fun. For sure. It's a, it kind of is shocking. And I mean, it is a compliment to say that GenV season one had no right being as good as it was. Because as a precarious enough property as the boys is for kind of weaving a lot of like modern-day superhero satire, along with some pretty good, like, mystery and drama, to spin this off into a college kid level mystery show again with ultraviolence, crude humor, and everything that the

boys has and more, I was shocked at how well, not only it spun off into its own thing, but incorporated itself into the fabric of the boys universe very well and had a lot of the same sentiments and, like, themes that that show has. I think that it's really good, and I'm very excited to know that that can probably be carrying over into this season. I guess for me, the first season of the show, I wondered, what I always wonder about the spinoff, the prequel, the sequel, the whatever, is how does this mesh? why must this exist?

We've talked about this before. Like, why must this exist? And that's the, when you're watching an original story, you're watching the story, and the story itself is reason enough for the story existing. You're watching Star Wars. Every single scene, they're reinforcing to you why the story should exist.

Now you're watching the prequels, and you're like, okay, what am I going to see, learn, and know that is going to deepen my love and experience, of this world. Gen V answered that question so excellently more than as good as any spinoff ever has. Obviously, there's spinoffs that take place

like after the character has gone on in his life. You're talking about Frazier. Then there are all these backdoor pilots that are pause that exist in these networks and stuff like that. But Gen V deepened the world, deepened the experience of what it means to be a soup, what it means to be a kid in that world, kid soup, which we got a little bit of that

from Starlight, and ended up to be honest with you, being more a more of a story than the boys was. In occasions yes, because the boys is like a lot more seasons and a lot more runway to fail and kind of mess. Like we

we like some seasons more and less than of the boys than others. But as far as a debut season of television, GenVee pretty much did everything right. Yeah, I think part of it is also like the boys universe. Let's say like it was finding itself, but I'm gonna talk about it later

with all the stuff going on in the world and how it influences that world. I feel like Gen V just fit perfectly into that slice of pie and just made it, just made, again, like you said, made the world bigger and more uniforms and where we're like, oh, snap.

Like, we're basically just watching another season of the boys, but with different characters that come in and out of this universe. Okay. We also have to touch on the fact that there is a character in the show, Andre, who is no longer on the show. He's not on the show because the actor that played Andre in real life,

crashes motorcycle. We died in a motorcycle accident on his way to shoot the second season of the show. Yes. So going into that and knowing that, that the cast had to perform, he was written out of the show. They weren't going to recast them. The cast had to perform, enduring the loss of their friend, and the show itself

had to be nimble enough to change to stop on a dime and go in some new narrative ways what do you guys think about that going into the show? I mean, it's tragic that he passed knowing that I loved his character in the show and I thought he was a very good addition to that and it sucks that he's no longer with us.

And I'm always really I never really know how to feel when a property with the loss of an actor either tries to pivot away from a character or incorporate the loss of that real word person

into that story. And I think that as we get to talk about this season more, it's kind of not at the center but it is a constant talking point that that character is no longer with us. And it kind of makes me feel odd as to how the best way to handle that is.

Like we've had a similar thing with Chadwick Bowman. with the production of Black Panther. Obviously, that was rewritten and written around his death. I've never really quite known how to feel about incorporating someone's death into a story that much.

And I still kind of don't. I think that the plot point from the perspective of his dad losing his son and probably wanting to know more about why his son was lost, along with all of the other mysteries that are happening in the show, I think it's handled well,

but I still, like every time that they keep saying, that this character is dead, I keep thinking that there's a real world person out there that's still not no longer with us. Joe, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, it's obviously, like, sad and terrible. And he was one of the best parts of season one.

And so for him not to be here, like, just on the earth in general sucks already, and then not to have him in the show is just awful. But I think, honestly, I think I disagree. I think his absence and them continually, like, talking about it, makes me feel for the characters more because I kid it. I think it's like losing

a main character at like usually it would happen like at the end of a season or even like Ned Stark right when he gets his head cut off at the end of season one of Game of Thrones and then you have to spend the next seven seasons

dealing with the fallout of that. It's kind of the same thing with these characters. They have to deal with Andre dying and them being trapped and then finally getting out. And what does that mean for them? What does that mean for us? Like, why do they continue on this journey?

They already know, like, it's kind of cooked, but why would they continue to fight against Vought after all they've been through, if not to avenge Andre? That's why it makes sense to me. It did make a lot of sense. They were able to do it really seamlessly. So let's get into the season. Now,

One of the big questions I had following Gen Z, Gen Z, Gen V, Season 1 was why would the students all come back to the university? They were sprayed out and scattered, and I was like, you know what? Maybe the next season will follow them in their times as fugitives or they're on the run from VOT, from the school, the entire deal. But that's not what they did. They brought the school back to the central thrust of the show, which was actually kind of, obviously there's a new head of the school. But it was, I thought maybe it could have been repetitive. Maybe it's some of the same storylines that they would have done from season one.

But I'll say right now in the first three episodes, it feels very fresh because we've been able to see all the characters. in a different, more evolved way than what they were in season one. That was actually a big concern of mine because obviously the Voys is, it's a world of spin. It's a world of perception. It's a world of things where the real world consequences of characters being in a certain place or making enemies out of a certain person, Vought is so evil and so conniving, it can obviously spin whatever narrative that it wants to get characters in places where they normally wouldn't

ever return to. So them being like, okay, well, in order for you. us to not be on your ass, you were going to have a press conference, say that you were attacked. This was an anti-soup propagated event that will stir up social fervor towards our cause, and then you can come back to school and we wash our hands of it. Everything's fine. That's an interesting conceit to get them A back in the school and propel a different mystery rather than making the same mystery happen again or making the same sort of like narrative happenstance the same way. don't want to directly compare this to

some personal frustrations that I would have with, say, severance, with kind of like spinning its wheels in order to get certain characters back on screen. But I think this show's doing it very well because the cynical ways that Vought spins narrative and public

perception to get these people that are really, like, would normally want to fuck them over again, but we just have them under their thumbs for different ways. I like that a lot. I mean, it's just too real. you know, like seeing them have to capitulate under the weight of, listen, you don't really have any other option. We could put you back in prison or you can show up and be a hero for soups, right?

That's why, like, they make Jordan a number one, not because they're out there doing the things because, oh, no, you kind of have to do what we tell you to do. And if we know that we've got you under our control, we can make you number one and you can tell everybody what you're supposed to do. that didn't work out because Jordan Jordan is a real one. But ultimately the goal is always subjugation. And so like that's why, when they make that the plot point of them coming back, I was like, I get it. That makes sense.

Right. They're essentially trying to take these superpower kids at these schools who have, at this school, who have these aspirations to be these gigantic vaught heroes, but not just heroes. Another thing about Vaught that's interesting. When they meet these Vought stars, they never talk to them,

about people that they've saved. They always talk to them about movies that they've been in. Yeah. So that's so interesting to me when they meet, what's his name, Vickor? Oh, the Hammer Guy? Vicar. Vicar. What do you mean Vicar? They talk about Vikor's movie and he fucks them up.

Yeah. The dog, the Bounty Hunter a little bit thing. Right. You see some of them. I love your thing. Right. So there's always some commentary. You never see somebody go, hey, like they're the dog guy.

you caught this guy, boom, boom, boom, or you saved all of these people. It's all commerce. It's all capitalism every single time. And to watch the kids at the school, try to come master their powers, understand who they are as heroes or villains in this world. But at the end of it, you know that it's all for money and fame and the parts of heroism that sometimes seem ancillary. it just, it makes it so super interesting. It makes me interested in the kids more because they get confronted with it and they get to decide whether or not they want it.

Do you guys, I'm going to say have trouble because I don't think it's like too difficult. But on how like on the nose the show is with its references like to the world, the wider world, because when I'm watching the show and I look at the banner and it says, Make America Super again, which by the way is Massa, which is all another problem. You know what I'm saying? you can't really go saying that around, you know what I mean?

But like, like the, we're better than suit or we're better than humans, like all this stuff. Resist with the star and all that. And it's like, man,

if I wanted to do, if I wanted to watch this, I could just turn on the news. Well, I'll say this. The, um, the pilot episode, the pilot episode was,

uh, especially. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because, in the pilot episode, and we haven't really touched about this or talked about this on the podcast,

in the pilot episode, they talk about a couple of different soups that are gone. They died. And they're talking about those soups in ways that martyr them and make them

look and feel amazing. As an audience, we know who they really were. Yeah. So when I saw that in light of recent events, and obviously I'm talking about Charlie Kirk's death, but not just Charlie Kirk's assassination, which I would assume that everyone was appalled by and thinks this is a terrible happening. But then the sort of whitewashing or moderndom of Charlie Kirk post his death and a national conversation that's happened around that, I was like, whoa. Yeah. Like when they first put me into the world, I was like, whoa.

Like, the world of the boys is, it's, that's why I was glad to get some show. I was glad to get some blood and some crazy shit, some hijinks. Because the world is, it's too, they're predicting it too well. I'm, I'm, but that's the thing. I don't even see that as a prediction because obviously this was made long before. No, it was one of those predictions, but it wasn't a prediction of something would happen. Right. It was, though, a dead on and accurate depiction of what would happen.

If somebody that was involved in a movement, how they would be viewed by people or how their legacy would be viewed by people who sought to take that legacy and then use it as political. And that's the thing about the show, I mean, just the boys universe in general, that, like, when we look back of the show in 20 years, 30 years, and we go, like, what are. a moment in time because we thought that like season two, season three of the boys that they were doing, they might have been doing too much. Like, all right, man, it's not that serious. It's very much now in line. They can't go any farther with what they have because it's just,

it's just for a lot. But regardless of how terrible, again, real world events fall out for us, a show like this is actually like a superpower that this show has, no pun intended, is really handling these things. things, not exactly tactfully, but so cynically to the point of not being tasteless, because it also informs the world that this story occupies while also being very well-informed commentary about our own world. I think that was episode two or three when Dog Night was talking about like gunning down a starlighter who he claimed was like reaching for a gun and it is a kid of a then seemingly

unarmed black boy that is now dead and then used for as a political cudgel. And I feel like a lesser show would do that tastelessly and get people upset. But I think the show not only, I can't go as far as say handles it well, but like utilizes that social aspect of our condition very well to this story. Honestly, that's the most interesting thing about the show is that the show is distasteful. It's a distasteful show. However, the things that the show has to take seriously, it does them extremely well. Yeah.

The things that it has to take seriously, it gets you ready for them. It litigates them in honest and non-heavy-handed ways. It's heavy-handed with sticking a person up somebody else's ass or all of that stuff. But when it comes to emotions and relationships and trust, trauma and connection and obligation and heroism and valor and cynicism and all of that stuff. The show does that in a very, very good way. Let's talk about some of our returning characters. Blood Lady, what's her name again?

Marie. Marie Marie-Marie. Marie-Marot. Start off, she's on the run. I mean, it wouldn't be the boys if somebody wasn't on the run. Right. They're able to get her back. Uh-huh. Chance encounter with Starlight.

Starlight saves her from dog to bounty hunter. Jomey, what? You're funny. It's just funny how Starlight just happened to be there in that particular moment. She's tracking her. She's watching her. She needs her. You know what I'm saying?

We'll talk about more about the cameos, but I just find it funny how everybody's just always popping in and out. I love it. The cameos. So in the first three episodes, we saw cameos from The Deep, Starlight. Who else? with the lady on TV What's her name? From the last one

From the last one Right And there was like an homage Firecracker right Firecracker Okay Amage of Victoria Newman Yeah, Technite

Let me ask you this Are the Cameos More for Gen V Or they're more for the boys? I think they're more for the boys They're definitely more for the boys I think

And this is something that we talk about all the time Like, it helps to see these guys because I don't know why the deep is going. I mean, I know why the deep is going back to college to do an initiation because that's what the deep would do because he's an idiot. But it's also like, guys, the deep is here. This show has got a bigger universe. Like, don't forget about these people because they also exist in this world. It's like the MCU where they would just half mention like, oh yeah, Tony Stark used to be at this little thing or whatever.

Or Captain America, his friend used to come here sometimes. They're actually there, which I think helps and build, keeps this world spinning. Steve? I think the cameos are ultimately fine. Again, I don't see them eclipsing the show. I don't see them being ultimately a distraction. I just kind of add it to the hijinks of a boy's property in general. I think it's just kind of these things reverberating off of each other.

The boys is ending, so they would probably want to drum up as much excitement by incorporating a lot of these characters into that. I'm very curious to see where Gen V is actually going to be falling into the final season of the boys, because this seems to be, like, not exactly on a collision course, but, like, these orbits are kind of circling closer and closer than we thought. Like, knowing that Starlight is on the run the same time that Maria is, and they're kind of, like, in close proximity to one another. Yeah, well, I mean, Sam arrested Kimiko, right? Exactly.

You know, so, like... And there will be direct repercussions from that. Right. I think we're at a point where I'd be kind of shocked. and saddened if they weren't like integral, not maybe integral parts, but they weren't, you know, in season five, the final season of the boys in a meaningful way.

The Dean, so much mystery. Cipher. Cipher. I love Cipher. Talk about it. I love Hamish Link later. I think he's an inspired pick for like the new big bad of this season. He has this really great, like, affect to him where he can be entirely like,

cynical and sarcastic and biting, but also, like, lightly warm. And I think the way that Seifers kind of operating in this where, like, his motivations aren't exactly clear. He's clearly, like, orchestrating a lot of the kids as far as, like, getting them into this, like, training course program to, like, utilize their powers more and indoctrined them, like, to keep, like, for a villain to keep all of these kids close not only to each other, but to him is very interesting to me. The way that he's utilizing,

oh, forgive me, what's the... Kate, yes. The way that he's utilizing Kate and, like, really manipulating her in a very inspired way, I greatly enjoy, and I'm just a big chill for Hamish Linklitter.

He's amazing. What do you think his powers are? We did. That's the question. Because we don't know, and part to your point, like, part of the reason why I was like, I like, I like those guys

villain is because Kate comes over after the accident and she's like, we got to go get the people who, who mess me up. He's like, we can't do that because once I call Homelander and tell him you don't got no powers, you're done. Oh, yeah, gave that out for me. Let me just call him up. Dooddy, Dede, Dede. Hello, Homelander.

Kate doesn't have her powers. Oh, she's just a human now? Like, that's not going to work. And I was like, oh, this guy's great. But what does he do? Like, I'm reinforcing like, okay, you need powers. What are your powers, buddy? And also, when she comes up behind him,

to try to read his mind and all of that stuff. Remember when she comes to visit? Yeah, it's just nothing. And, well, no, he grabs her hand before she can. And puts it in the blender. I watched that scene back a couple of times to see how quickly he did that. And I was trying to see,

it was interesting the way they shot it. Was that a soup thing? Or was that just... Distraction. Well, no. You think he got spidey sense? Well, was his ability to, because she's coming up and he doesn't see, was his ability to see her, was that from training or was he a suit, is that part of his, his reflex is that fast to grab her?

Obviously she couldn't yank her hand out, but that just could be because he's an older man, grown man's strength, she can't get away. So like what I was trying to think in that scene were they trying to demonstrate, even in a small way what his power set was. It also slightly alarmed me that he didn't look. I mean, again, she's quite young, but to know that he was the doctor that delivered Marie and he looked exactly the same, I'm like, hmm, that's like slightly interesting, only to know that I'm like, okay, do you not age or are you some sort of like...

I don't know, maybe. I like the mystery behind it. I like the idea that we can't guess why this seemingly, like, charismatic villain, we don't know what he does yet. They also mentioned in, like, talking about in episode one, that he was in Vot, New Mexico, Mexico City. Yes. And they've got the spinoff that is eventually coming to Boy's Mexico. So who knows, like, that's probably connected in an interesting way.

But, yeah, we just don't know who this guy is. And I'm looking forward to finding out. Do you think we'll get a second SpongeBob cameo from that spino? I don't think. Oh, who would we get? We could probably get Tom Kenny. It's possible. That was a wild cameo to start off that season.

Listen, Clancy Brown is that guy, bro. Respect Clancy Brown. All right, let's get back into this story. These kids are back at the school. They're training. They got their own danger room. That's a shitty danger room. Hero optimization.

In the first season, so in the boys' comic books, this guy, is Golofkin? No. Godoken. Godoken. By the way, if you guys haven't realized from four years of the Midnight Boys, I'm not good at the names of stuff.

Yeah, no. I can't, again, I can't wait until you get into anime more because I'm going to love to hear you say those names. Uh, Mugugugai Pann? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Mugui Gapan. Nailed it. What?

It's Mugan train. It's really not hard. Oh, it's really not hard. What are you talking? Demon Slayer Mugugan? No, it's Mugan train. No, it's exactly that. That's probably racist, man.

That wasn't right. That was crazy. There was no need for that. He tried, folks. He really did. I want to see it. I got to watch it. I got to, because my demon slayer day to get caught up on everything is Friday.

Right. So I got to watch Mugan Train. Do you just have, if I were you, I would just watch Mugan Train. Right. And then just deep dive videos, catch up videos. Yeah, just like, you just need character information. You don't need too much. Not that the movie explains it, but it doesn't matter.

So just watch Mugan Train. You can see why I'm nervous now. And you'll be okay. And you'll be fine. We're not nervous. It's fine. You're going to have a great time. No, no, no, he's going to have a great time.

I'm just saying for your benefit, so you're not like watching a thousand videos. You're not there all day. Really just watch Moog and Train. And I can send you a video of like a character update. So when you see a character in the movie, you know who it is. I know who it is. Okay.

The last thing about Democletal, we get back to Jay-Vee. They have powers, right? They have powers? Yes. They have their breathing techniques. Yes. It's basically mastering of a martial arts kind of way.

Think water bending and earthbending in average. They are humans, so they can master their chi and do amazing things. I don't know if it's exactly like that, but yeah. Yeah. Kind of. Kind of, yeah. And they find demons. And they find demons.

Yeah. A lot of demons. Can't wait. Dude, I can't wait for you to watch it. Can't wait for it. I'm so excited. You have no idea. Van's going to talk so much shit.

Godokin. Yeah. So in the boys universe, Godokin is Professor Charles Xavier. Not really. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. A Nazi and a KKK kid? Yeah.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You guys are wrong. Okay. In the boys' universe. You're talking about the comic. The comic. Yes, yes. Okay.

In the boys universe, Godolkin, John Godokin, the guy who started the university has a group called the G men. Yeah. It's very on the nose. And they're the G men, because the Godoken men, it's very on the nose.

He is Charles Xavier. It's the same thing, just like the seven. It's the exact same thing. I actually wasn't aware of this when I was watching the first season. I wasn't aware that this was an X-Men play in the first season. I could have been aware of it, but there was also no Godalkin there, the guy's gone. So it's not as evident.

However, and by the way, from what I read and researched in the actual boys universe, you know, Godokin is he's fucking sinister. He's like, he's a pedophile and all of that different stuff. He's like he's... Well, I mean, they go into... The boy's comic is a lot.

The comics is a lot. But even in, uh, when they go into the little back room, uh, and they see he's got the Nazi imagery, he's got the KKK hood. Just not a guy you want to, especially us. Not a cool dude. They want to really want him to see. This season, to me,

I can more see. the X-Men vibes in the show than I could last year. I see them a little bit more now. Well, because they got out of danger room. They got a danger room. The whole conversation about being able to maximize your powers,

learning how your powers work, take your power set to the next level. All of that was way more on the nose. When I look back at it now, the through line, the DNA of the entire show is the relationships between the characters and fighting this and fighting that It's very much X-Men, but I saw it a lot more in this season.

And I'm wondering if that was purposefully done too because there's been so much mutant talk in the MCU and the boys' universe is always so reactionary. I want to say that. I think part of it is also season one, these kids come in and they're wide-eyed bushy-tailed. They're like, man, I get to go to school with all these soups. It's going to be great.

Oh, my gosh, I get to learn so much about my new world. Tell me this world sucks. Right? And it's only gotten worse over the year. And so it just becomes now, like, we got to, we got to, what was the guy to say? We got to fight humans. Yeah. Like, they're going to come at us.

They outnumber us, one to 10 million or something. Which, by the way, it means, like, and I try to do the math, you guys will let me know if I'm wrong. There's like 8,000. If that math is correct, there's only like 8,000 soups in the world. Which means that, like, they probably have only got, like, how many hundred at that school? Right. And so it's just like, I'm like, I'm doing a college campus. Like, man, y'all.

If the humans really went to war, humans will mess y'all up, bro. Oh, yeah. It was a good show. So there's just a match. Well, they talked about that in the show. It was like that we're outnumbered by the humans. And since we're outnumbered by the humans, if they ever, we need to level up our powers and be ready for them because if they ever decide they want to take shit back over. It's so interesting because I am leaning a bit more into your analysis that this could be like an X-Men cop.

Because, again, the social stigma around soups now being. that they're distrustworthy. The Starlighters obviously are a bit more of like a pro-human cause. This is sort of like a like reverse like Magneto school where they're already sort of like villainized so they may as well like hone all of their powers and become the most dangerous versions of themselves so they're not fucked with. But the idea that this is also corporate, This is also like run by a company that makes the medicine that a father takes at night is interesting because the main things that are actually worrying this student body and the corporation that funnels it is clicks on TikTok, the perception of what humans are doing to soups in the abstract and a narrative that they can control. all of those things like don't exactly translate into a danger

when they're honing their powers but they want them on their side. So it's kind of like a level of conditioning that I actually am interested in that makes Cypher is such a compelling villain because he isn't outright trying to destroy them. He's trying to coax them onto a side

be it either of their perception or actually to fight for Vaugh. It seems like that now. Yes. But I wonder what his real goal is. There's so much we don't know. That's the interesting thing. He gives Marie the file for her, like, for Andre, right?

Which then leads them to be like, okay, well, there's files on, going to files everywhere, this and this. I'm interested to see, like, like, what is, what is his goal? What is his plan? Like, he's out there playing. I'm pretty sure, like, again, maybe I'm reaching, but when he's talking to Marie about her powers and how she feels and Kate's in the background, listening, she's like, oh, no, I'm not going to be the favorite no more.

Like, what? is this guy's deal? I don't know if it's the most interesting thing of the season, but it's definitely going to be interesting to me. Right. Huh. All right. Character check-ins.

Yes. Everyone, let's go through it. Talk about Kate. I think Emma might be my MVP this season. Interesting. Emma's great. Emma's great. She's very funny.

There's like an interesting arc with her where she's like developing her powers in a way that isn't like involved with self-harm. Obviously, Marie is also on that journey because she's trying to figure out without cutting herself. How deep can this like power go without me having to hurt myself? But Emma is always this like not only just a comic relief, but like a level of earnestness between this dynamic of friends that I really, really enjoy. She's very funny. I mean, she's the one who's funny on purpose.

Right. Yeah. She's the only one that's like legitimately giving you jokes and stuff like that. And I really like the interactions with. her and Andre's dad when they're like trying to look for files through like the archives and stuff like that. The rememberer? Yeah.

Which honestly, I love that guy. I like him. He's great. He was the man, bro. Yeah. He was like, he was like low-key flirting with his dad. That's funny. And the fact that he said something, and this is another thing I like about this show, how

they get mad at with some of this stuff, he said his show got canceled with a two seven rating. Yeah, people would murder for that. were murder for that. He's right. Yeah. Like, if you had a 27, I'll listen to that. Nielsen's dead, man. He's right, bro. A 27, you would fucking kill for that right now.

That's a pretty archivist nerd character. You pre-streaming? Come on. Yeah. The 27, man, they took this man. Those are mash numbers. And in that scene, was she actually a fan of his? It seemed like she was.

She was. Yeah, but she was also tripping. She was tripping. She thought she was taking Xanax. It was not a Zand. So she was feeling herself. But ultimately, got the. the job done.

So you take those. Right. You take those. But Steve, you were saying about... But no, I think she's great. Her little mystery with who tried to figure out who's doing the signed thing. That's like a great side quest for her. I really like this.

Tim Tarletters. Yeah. The Jordan, obviously, a character that we enjoy a lot. I thought the subplot between her and Marie in episode three when they hook up. And Marie's like, I love you. Jordan's like, yeah, hold on. That's real. That's real.

Fuck Jordan for that a little bit. What do you mean? What do you mean? Like, you don't say, I love you to somebody you just had sex with. That's kind of mean to say. All right, man. That's mean. Yo, this is insane pandering.

This is insane pandering. What's mean about it? That was the first time Marie had sex. He didn't know. They didn't know that. They didn't know that. They didn't know that. They didn't know that.

There, any grace that they could have given her? What are you on right now? Like, listen, like, I know that you have a lot of feelings right now, and that's great. But, like, I would really like just to see how this goes. My fault, 19 year old, we're at 19 years old, were you that woke? Will you be like a girl? No, but obviously, we're just like, we're not going to like. I mean, it all comes, it comes around, right?

Eventually. I get it. They're like, oh, I do love you. I wish I would have told Andre. Y'all want to hear a crazy story? Please. Please. It's really a crazy story.

By all means. Y'all, well, I tell you some crazy stories. It's really a crazy story. Let's go for it. Lock it in. So, you know, I was, this is a crazy story. So I was with a girl. I've been seeing her for a while.

Right. We were at my apartment, and we had woken up in the morning, and we were talking about how we were seeing each other and the whole relationship. Sorry, quick pause. Can I ask how old you were at this time? I was 21. 21.

21. 21. It was 21. We were talking about how, how, how, how, what the thing was, right? What the relationship was? Yeah. She was that we were just laying in the bed, just asking me questions.

And she asked me a question. I didn't get to answer the question. I never got to answer the question because somebody interrupted me by coming to the door and telling me something. What? They told me that 9-11 happened. What? Now, wait a minute.

I was having a conversation. Right. In the room, having a conversation with somebody. Makes all the sense. We're in the room. We're in the room, having a conversation with someone. Someone asked me something. All of a sudden, knock on the door.

Boom, boom, boom, boom. Law. There's a pedig. The pedig. Like, and like, I, I put it. You guys, if some way, I'm not going to tell the names, but they know, like, some way, they know that this happened. Sure. So I have a question.

Then 9-11 happens, and then we go into the living room. And you're watching. And that discussion is not resumed. We're watching the TV, and then the conversation about, like, what we are. Doesn't really matter. It never, it never happened. It never happened ever. Okay.

So they asked that, what was your answer going to be? I don't remember. Oh, no, no. I don't remember what it was going to be. But I had been seeing her for a while, and obviously we had just spent the night together, and she was friends with my homies, girl, and that's how we met.

Right, right, right. So it was a little crew. So you don't even know if you were bailed out. And by the way, it wasn't like she was trying to, like, be with me or whatever. She was just basically kind of seeing what the deal was, and the question comes out. She wasn't like on me like that. The question comes out, and then we talk.

knock knock knock knock See Saved by the bell Think And think about this If it was getting If the pressure was getting too much You were saved by that

Jesus Christ That would have been a See? There's no better out There's no but I'm sorry babe We had bigger things to go up right now How could you think about yourself At a time like that?

Exactly We're thinking about the country right now What are you The question is Are you ready to do something I was about to say. The only us is U.S. If she's chasing you, for real, you got to start making up calls to the U.S. military.

The Marine's like, yeah, man, and I'm thinking about joining enough. Think about shipping out. I definitely told you guys a U.S. military. Way crazy. The way I trolled my dad. Right, yeah. For like, that's still, rest in peace, dad. That's still one of the best things of him.

Was that one of the angriest you've made him? Yeah, he was pissed. Yeah. Like, I troll my dad. About going into the military. The guy comes out of the house. My dad, my dad, my mom, he goes. Cookie.

fucking bang going to the army I was like hey you know he was like this boy stupid he won't listen to nothing I say telling him for not to go to the army Ben going to the army

I'm telling you he's going to the army so funny all right back to Jordan back to Jordan like the scene where Marie tells him I'm a virgin

and he's like you can't tell you can't tell the first person you have sex with that you love him that's not how that works that's the dick moment Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

They went a little bit too far. You can't do that. That's a little bean. But the moment in the bed, like, what are they supposed to do? No, I'm not saying that that was me. I'm saying that what you just said now, like you don't say that to somebody. That was me. That's a little harsh, but at the same time, like, you know, I'm saying?

Like, it's not familiar here. It was, I also wonder in that situation, between the two characters when they go back and forth, which, by the way, I love that now. Yeah. Are there consciousness breaks there? No. No. Okay.

Same person. The same person. Yeah. They have different personalities, though. No. From what I've been trying to track, I've been trying to track, like, when they switch and why, like, what certain, like, outside of them being in a fight, because one, one side has, like, physical, like, strength and punching, and the other one has, like, a kinetic

ability. But, like, in just a social dialogue, I'm trying to track, like, when they switch and why they want to switch, like, if one wants to be more assertive, or if one is more reserved, or if one feels a certain way, what a... emotions are tied to what side? And it's hard for me to track. I'll say, like, so I think part of the thing that the first year episodes did well was, like, the friendships between the characters. There's some, like, really nice emotional moments that are really sweet. And one of them is at the beginning with Emma and, and Jordan in the

transport. They're, like, holding hands. Like, we're here together. And Jordan is a guy. And then I think episode three with Sam when they're smoking weed watching children's television and they're a girl and it's just I think on the circumstance like what makes sense for the comfortability of the characters

right and so I just think that's how it's done it's really not I think in those particular moments they think about it like what makes sense emotionally but when they're just out and about having conversations I don't really think I don't think it matters all right Sam

Not a lot of Sam's stuff happened in these first three episodes to me. I mean, not like... There's some, there's some. He's a tad underserved right now. But not even underserved, almost like he's in a new position. Last year, he was sort of this weapon,

this super strong, crazy weapon that was dealing with the death of his brother and all of that stuff. It seems like the character now is rounding into something new. So for these first three episodes, it didn't really seem like Sam was the focal point that he was last season.

Yeah, he's in a bit of a regressive state. He's having visions again. He's seeing the puppets. He's having a tough mental slip. Fan of the puppets. Yeah, and he doesn't have Kate to kind of steady him. And I'm interested to see where that goes for him

because I'd hate for him to have like a falling down moment again, only to try to find a, like, quote unquote, cure or a fix for what is going on with him because he was in a great place knowing that Kate could help him. But I think that there should be more for him to be doing in these next few episodes. And obviously he's not like exactly interwoven into this current plot right now. So yeah, I'm interested to see. He's not doing much at the moment.

Yeah, but I think that's by design. Sure. Because when it was just him and Kate, she was using her powers to like bring him down, Like forget the whole thing. And it's kind of like, he's like having withdrawals from Kate. Sure. Right? Like he was depending on that to like get through life.

Every time he would like have a flashback, I have a memory, she would go and take it out of his brain or however her powers work. And so for him not to have that, we see it in episode three, he just loses it. Yeah. Right? He's like, oh my gosh. Like Andre's dead. This whole thing is messed up. Like he can't keep it all together.

And so maybe part of his journey is him figuring out how to deal with that without Kate. Right. But I imagine we're going to see the puppets again. Yeah. It might take a minute. Yeah, puppets are coming back for sure. I always get freaked out by those puppets. I love the puppets.

It's because, okay, maybe I'm like too like Muppet-pilled. But like when I see like, not to say that they didn't work hard on making these puppets and obviously they made a lot. But when I see a puppet that isn't a Muppet or at least like the same sort of like character design as a Muppet, it always freaks me out. Because I'm like, what evil thing. You don't like them. You don't like great value of them? They make me uneasy. Wow.

That's really elitist. So the Muppets that are like Fuzzy Bear and all of those guys. Sesame Street, Elmo. Those guys are cool. But then people that are like Muppets in the Muppet thing. It's so like the lips aren't right. They look too much like humans, but not as much like as. Yeah, because they can't make them look too much like for other Muppets because that would be copyrighted infringement.

So they make them a look a little weird and that fucks you up. It fucks me up a little bit. What about Fragles? I'm not a big frackles. You don't fuck with the fragles? Dark crystal, yes. Dark crystal. Dark crystal is terrified.

Dark crystal is awesome. Nah, I can't do dark crystal. I can do fragles. I can do fragles. I can do fragles. I can't do fragles. What is the central mystery, the central thrust of what this season is to you guys? So I think they try to.

Is it Andre's death? And well, may. Nah. I think that's like the emotional through line. Like the actual plot, I think is like what ciphers up. to and Odessa and what that means for the future of the boys universe because Thalda comes to Marie and she's like this is a weapon or that's a weapon and we find out that Marie is Odessa but what does that mean for Marie?

What does that mean for her growth as super? Remember, Seifer is talking to her and he's like you, the potential your power is crazy. We have to figure out like how to best serve you so you can go forth and be the best version of yourself as and if and she and if he uh was there when she was born he would know yeah all ends and out so i think that like her her like journey as in like who she who she actually is to this universe i think is the central idea of the season so if we game this out what end game for this season could be incorporated into the final season of the boys because like if that's if that's to even touch what the final season of the boys is well there's a question

the boys ends next year. Right. There's a question is, does Gen V continue after the boys? I would imagine. Seems like it does. Well, then, what you're essentially looking at now is,

and it's interesting to have a world where Gen V exists, but the boys doesn't. Doesn't. Because the boys is supposed to be the big existential plot of this entire world. Whereas Gen V is supposed to be a more intimate coming of age story of supers.

So if that story is going to go on and there's not going to be a homelander or a butcher or a Starliner or any of that stuff, then they have to do something in this season and maybe in the last season of the boys to shift the importance and the states back to this world. I could see Gen V. season three. being like a epilogue to the universe of the boys and then an end point and then an ending because like again once Homelander dies in season 5 which I don't know if that's spoiler

I haven't read the comic books but I assume that's the only way that goes one would hope that they eventually get it like oh man I can't wait we're going to talk about somebody else's pack that I need but I need Homelandor pack crazy in season 5 but if that's how that goes and Vots done and destroyed and all that in the end of season 5 then yeah, season three should just be the fallout of that and like how about that means for the,

for not only for the students, but just for the universe or the world of the boys, and how they continue to live in that world without Vod's oversight. I have a slight concern. The boys has been massive. The boys have been very wildly successful and a very good expanded universe now with Gen V.

Now I'm starting to get concerned that what if this becomes a walking dead situation? where if the main canon of the show that kicks this off ends, all of the characters that may survive or carry on through season five, canonically in this world, either jump ship to a different property like Gen V or get their own spinoffs or get their own side adventures. Not to say that we're too long in the tooth already to have it dilute the product,

but do we think that that can kind of like oversaturate that universe without telling its own stories. I'd argue that it's when we're really honest. It's probably on its way there already. Right. Because you've got Gen V. You have the boys. You have the boys, Mexico.

And then you have... Do we watch a Mother's Milk? Then you have a prequel. I don't think they're going to do like a Huey and Annie sitcom type beat. I don't think that's where they're going. There's already enough going on in that universe as it is. I think these people are smart enough to know better. There's also a story of Soldier War and his group coming out.

Exactly, right? That's the other prequel. Yeah. It's just like there's a lot. So, I mean, look, the question of the entire... entire world is what happens when there's no home land. Right. I mean, that's a question in the whole world.

It's essentially like Star Wars post Darth Vader, the death of Darth Vader, Darth Vader gone. And, you know, we've seen a lot of Star Wars stories, be able to do a lot of stuff, cover a lot of ground, be really, really good. But it's just different when he's around. Because when he's around, the empire is around. And when the empire's around, there's this. orienting evil that governs the galaxy that allows all of our heroes not just to fixate

their focus on, but there's an ethos to the galaxy that everybody else is operating by, like something that they're trying to avoid, something that they're trying to curry favor with. Like even BobaFitt, when you first meet him, you know, he's negotiating with Vader to deliver Han to Java. And so all of that stuff is just different, and it's kind of something that the sequel trilogy kind of struggle with a little bit

because in the sequel trilogy, they're trying to make the first order into that, but trying to tie up loose ends and it doesn't work. So you just kind of run out of gas. And the question is, once Homelander is gone,

Homelander who represents the single sinister soup threat, the way that it has gone the worst, Yeah. Can they recreate that? And is there enough meat still on the bottom? I don't think so. Is it worse for a homelander to die or for Homelander to be depowered?

It would be worse for him to be depowered. Worse for him to be depowered? Oh, yeah. It would be worse for him to be depowered. And it would be smarter if they depowered. Probably, yeah. But, I mean, they tried that in season three. The Soge Boy, that didn't quite work out.

Wait. So you're saying that the ending of the boys is just going to be the series finale of Avatar? Maybe. Well, they take away old five powers? Yeah. He's just a guy. That's what happens? Yeah.

Spoiler alert. For Avatar, the last airbender? Yeah. It's an amazing finale. It's cinema. He's never going to watch it. Don't listen to that. And he can't.

And so after that, he can't handle power. First of all, it's Mark Hamel. Second of all. But you love Mark Hamel. I love Mark Hamill. So he doesn't, at the season finale, he doesn't have powers anymore. Yeah, they take away his bending. So then what, what does he do?

He's in prison. He's just a guy in jail. He's just a guy. Aang goes to jail? No, no, no, no, the bad guy goes to jail. Osai. Carlo Ozzy. Oh, oh.

Yeah, the bad guy's more ham. They don't take away the good guy's bending. I don't know. Like, after you guys were talking about the fact... No, the heroes win in the story. You guys were talking about the fact that he was sitting there

when you said he, I was, the he that I'm always thinking about is his aim. I was like, why would they take this man's powers? He was yip in the dog. No, he's the avatar. He can't take away that. He can't take away the avatars powers.

That's crazy. All right. Three episodes of Jimvee down. What are we looking for the next three episodes? I can't wait for that B-Lady to die. They're foreshadowing that be like, crazy. I can't wait. That was disgusting.

Where are we though? Are we still? There was, man. Are we still as game for the disgusting stuff that happens in the boys' universe? I don't know. That dude with the ass stuff was funny. That was funny. That was funny.

It's not funny that it's coming out of his ass. But it is funny. No, that's funny. No, I mean, it's a little funny. But it was more funny. Just like breaks the walls, right? And then the guy's like, you might want to see this, they busts your wall up.

Guy just like, oh, man. Like, like, it's like just a beat and then it goes back to action. That's funny. Yeah. That's, like, actual comedy. Now, I don't, again, this is never a show you can, like, put on a TV and be like,

hey, man, let's all watch this together. You know what I'm saying? Because I got the scene where Emma's chasing the Starlighter and there's just schlong everywhere. Yeah. It's like, meat, shmeat all over the place. Yeah. And you're like, okay.

I get it. It's a locker room. What else is going to do? I don't know who was watching an episode of Euphoria. She gives a thumbs up to that one guy? Yeah. Because he's hanging. I never seen nothing like that. That was crazy. I ain't never seen nothing like that. You've seen me, Joe.

I never seen me like that. That was wild. Did you pause? You're just like, what the fuck? I did not pause. I didn't know. First of all, let me just say, if you did pause. It's okay.

Steve, shame. No, no, no. No. No. No. It's more you're just like, wait, did I see what I thought of all? In my head, I'm like, did I see that? And then, like, obviously, Emma, let's hear the guy and goes, well, good for you. So I'm like, oh, yeah, that was that guy.

I was like, God, Dean, what did he got going on? I got you? What if that's his powers? Oh, no, we know that. That was a guy at a herogasm. Herogasm. With the big personal dog on. Yeah.

I keep sitting mother's milk in the mouth. Right. Well, shout out to Las, man. Yeah. Las, I hope you got a bump for that because that's crazy. That is crazy. I'll be hot, bro. Last demand.

Like, you're paying me an extra. 50K to get slapped in the face. It'd be getting, like, messed around by somebody, getting beat up with somebody with fist, but you're literally getting dicked around. I'd be hot. Where are we at with the first three episodes? Do they pick up the... The last season was incredibly,

critically acclaimed. Did these first three episodes live up to the promise of the last season, or were they a step backwards for you? I think it's growing great so far. I'm looking forward to level up. I think I'm not exactly as impressed as I was in the beginning of season one, but again, there's plenty

of, there's plenty of game left and I'm really having a great time with this. Marie with her family, how's that movie with you guys? I'm worried not like that it will like slow the show down, but just for her. Yeah, that's, you know, like, she's been searching for her sister for so long. And like, she kind of found her. Like, she knows where her sister used to live. And I'm honest, like, nah, she don't want to see you. Like, it's just like not, you killed her parents.

Yeah. It's not going to happen. I'm like, dang, that's got to, like, to hear that, that's got to be awful. And there's room for that for that story. to be genuinely, like, upsetting and bad. Yeah, so I worry for my girl, but I'm excited, man. The show came in, and I was worried about how I would handle Andre's loss, but it seems to, that's basically the emotional crutch of the season, which works.

And obviously, the thing that the boys has always done is lay, like, a good little, like, intro, like a little trap door to be like, okay, what is happening this season? What can we look into the trapdoor and see and find? And so they've done that so far. And so I'm sad to see where it goes. All right. That's it. This week on the Reconverse Feed,

how's how are we doing their peacemaker mid-season chicken, along with an interview with James Gunn? We would like to interview James Gunn. No, we can't interview James Gunn. Why? Because we would ask him questions she's not going to answer. You know, we can interview. Who?

Matt Reeves. Matt Reeves. That's what we're the dueling. Yeah, we would like to have some interviews. Matt Reeves come through. I don't know if people know or care about that. But we did the interview with Jake. With Jake.

That was great. And now Jake. We interviewed Jake and then Jake became in charge of the X-Men. We leveled him up. That was us. I honestly don't really feel like if he doesn't interview with the Midnight Boys and he gets that job. Yeah. No, I agree.

I think people saw. So you're saying that if he doesn't come back to us in the X-Men days to interview with us again, zero percent of rotten tomato. Now, I think he'll be fine. But I think that in order to get him. get that boost. Right. You got to come sit down. Yeah, it's the juice.

It's the juice. And we got real questions for James Gunn. We would, like, you know, we would like to interview. I'm just saying we would like to interview. I just know for the fact you want to answer. Well, we got to ask them. Also on Friday, Buttmash gives you their reactions to Borderlands 4. It's the fourth borderlands.

Borderlands, Quadalands, Quattro. I can't wait to go see Demon Slayer Infinity Sogman. Infinity Castle. Infinity Soca. It's not bad. It's close. Demon Slayer, Infinity War? Nope.

I mean, it basically is Infinity War. Funny enough, it is six minutes longer than Infinity War. God damn, that's long. Yeah, it's long. It is long. God, what the fuck? What does has to be with, Van, when he sees that? I need to turn and look at him.

I was buying the tickets. You can watch it, Dubbs. Yeah, Shitting Tatum's in it. You can watch it dub, whichever one you prefer. But I was buying the tickets, and I saw, he was that $2.35? What in those? world. Crazy.

Tough. Tough. Our producers are our Lansanaris and Jade. Jomey at dinner on, on socials. Butt chug and Jomey. Hashtad Buck Chug and Jomey. Right in the sphincter. You ever butt chug before?

No. I bet you've done it, Steve. Absolutely not. You have. But it's okay. I guess I have. Chuck, take us out. There's no Chuck to take us out.

Oh, shit. Damn. Okay. That was just reflexes. All right. No, we all got to think. Okay. I got one.

I got one. Okay. Okay. We're done talking about the boys. Rest and peace, Andre, in heaven. And Van, you got to give a nice thank you to 9-11. Oh, boy. We can't do that.

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