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Episode Date: September 29, 2023

Jessica, Jomi, and Steve are back to dive into the latest from ‘The Boys’ superhero universe with Amazon Prime’s ‘Gen V.’ The crew discusses their feelings on the first three episodes, thoug...hts on how the show handles issues like self-harm, and much more! Hosts: Jessica Clemons, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producer: Jonathan Kermah Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:24 I'm Jessica Clemens. I'm Jimmy Dinner on. And we are here to talk to you about a nice little school that's, you know, just having kids figure it out. But today, we've got to have some little programming, reminders for you before we begin on the Ring of our feed and the new house of our feed. Programming reminders on Monday.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Buttonmash will be returning to give you all their gaming goodness that they always do. Jesse, you excited for October and the deluge of things you're going to have to play? Yeah. Yeah. I'm so excited. I'm so tired.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I'm so tired because I've been playing video games. I know, right? Is that the worst? I hate it. Oh, I hate saying it until 3 a.m. I love it, though. I'm having a fun time. I replayed Miles Morales and I went in.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And so, yes, you'll get all of that talk and all that conversation. And on Tuesday night, the Midnight Boys are going to be giving you their instant reactions to Asoka. Late nights, as always. Jomey, are you looking forward to Asoka being one of the greatest Star Wars things you've ever seen? Asoka being one of the greatest Star Wars things I've ever seen. I wouldn't say that per se. But would you be looking forward to it? It could be.
Starting point is 00:03:36 It could be really awesome. It could, like, really change the way we see Star Wars'R. wherever so I'm watching it. Why isn't it your favorite? Well, I mean, still we got an episode left, right? And also like, empire exists. You know what I mean? Like, let's be for real.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm such an idiot. I was like, you watch Empire? I was like, you're comparing Star Wars. The Terrence Howard. I'm your father, Maine. Listen, Maine. Listen, Maine. That's a Maine for me was crazy, Steve, by the way.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But it's, that's fine. That's funny. Man. So the Empire. Strikes Back featuring Terrence Howard will be the greatest Star Wars thing you've ever seen. And keep an eye out for Loki coming up next week.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's that time already. Holy crap. Everybody's going to be firing on all cylinders. Midnight boys, Jessica Clemens, with their wonderful videos. The deep dives coming from House of R. Look forward to it all. And follow us on socials.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We're putting all our money in this. Insta. Twitter. I think everybody is doing it. TikTok. Yes. For Loki. We're putting our whole butts all into Loki. Just all, whole ass and...
Starting point is 00:04:45 Hey, a-o. That's what he said. He didn't say whole ass. Our ass were wearing the Loki horns the whole time. All right, let's start this show. Wow. What a performance for me. I'm a spin on the microphone.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Today, we're talking about the latest spinoff from Amazon Prime Studios, from the World of the Boys. It's Gen. Generation 5 coming at you real good. Gen V. Friendly Neighborhood Spoiler Warning for the boys.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Seasons 1 through all of them. And Gen V, episodes 1 through 3, the great show that premiered this week. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:05:24 All right, Jess, Jomi. The World of the Boys. A raunchy, shocking, adult-oriented world of superheroes becoming commodified into the major
Starting point is 00:05:34 multinational corporation of Vought. And you know, occasionally becoming heroes, but mainly for movies and branding and Instagram lives. What do you like so much about the boys and why do we really like Gen V? What are our thoughts?
Starting point is 00:05:52 What do we like about these first three episodes? I love these first three episodes. I'm obsessed with GenVe. I am thoroughly obsessed with it. Also because the trailers, you kind of felt like you knew what was going on in the trailers, and I broke down the trailer. And I still was like, wait,
Starting point is 00:06:07 this was not what the trailer was giving me. I love the boys as well, though. I'm obsessed with the entirety of it. I think the boys, for me, what got me really obsessed with it, was truly just the amount of violence. And being like, because we love super, we watch superhero movies.
Starting point is 00:06:24 We watch superhero shows. And I mean, I love when you play it on a really grounded, grounded level of like, in reality, though, how would real superheroes act? Right. And I'm like, companies backing those superheroes be like. Yeah, we'd be doing it for, too.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, and it's just like, that's what makes, I love that. part of like, damn, it's business, business in the soup game, and I'm fully ingested, invested, invested. Ingested and invested. Ingested and invested. Now, I really enjoy, like, the first season of the boys. I think the boys got me because of the, like, the family type stuff always love when
Starting point is 00:06:58 you've got, like, butcher and Huey and mother's milk and Frenchie. And, like, it's a whole bunch. Like, they've all got like, beef. They all don't like each other. But they love each other, you know what I mean? And so, like, that aspect was really great. And, like, yeah, the soups, you know, being complete dickheads, you know, in a world where we, like, idolize these guys, you know, like, talk, like, fictionally.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You know, like, bad man, an Iron Man and all those Superman were like, they could do no wrong. They're great. And in this world, like, they're all, like, terrible. Like, the worst people we've ever met in your life. You know what I mean? And so it's just a lot of fun. And, yeah, man, GenV.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I didn't know what to expect coming into it. I was like, all right, begin. like diet the boys man I'm cool lock me in like we're gonna see it and I loved every single second that I got to saw like I got to see in these first year episodes
Starting point is 00:07:49 it was awesome I was intrigued by the world I was the characters are all great and like you know the little bits and pieces we get from the larger world of the boys you know just really makes this makes this show so so alive and I yeah
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm rocking with it through the first stream, man. I'm really, really enjoying it. I like that it's also, like, really subtle the boy things. It's not, I thought they were going to literally, like, I thought the timeline was going to be so important and that they were going to like, oh, here's all these people from the boys have to show up and have to do things in the school.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And there will be carryover, a la Marvel, and everything else who'd be like, remember what happened on season four of the boys, now to continue with the aftermath of blah, blah, blah. Oh, my God, yes. And I think I'm just so programmed because of DC and Marvel that I'm like, everything has to be so invested and connected. We need everything.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Everybody has to be everywhere. And it was just like, no, here's like some movie posters from Baud International. It's like they mentioned Homelander and there's a statue of him around. That's about it. I've had like a weird, complicated relationship with the boys because I've kind of rolled my eyes at almost every bit of marketing and like selling of the boys because to me it just struck me as in its early days as like an edge lordy. Just type of superheroes, but for real, Superman's bad and all that stuff. And every single time the show has surprised me with the amount of humanity and amount of like biting satire that comes at not only the pop culture moment that we're in right now of superheroes and Marvel and all of these continuous storytelling.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But the idea that that cynicism also turns itself into worse. human beings, that a culture around heroism, a culture around people that will sell their name, image, and likeness for the sake of a idea about themselves. That isn't even true. That's really what's surprised me about the boys. And it's right here in Gen V from the start. And we can get into the sort of specifics as to how well it does it. But I think overall, like it has the exact same heart in the exact same right place that the boys has, but geared towards teen drama, you know, fitting in, working out in school, and an incredibly good mystery. I'm thoroughly impressed by this. It's actually incredible. I want to talk about the cast real quick. So,
Starting point is 00:10:28 Jessica, you've remembered like three people. You've mentioned like two people we were here on Sabrina and then a couple other people on other things. Jumby and I don't know who any of these kids are. All of them are great, but we've kind of looked at this with a pretty blank slate because pretty much the only person that we know in the show is Clancy Brown, and that's a kind of a deep pull. You old bitch. You old bitch. But that's the thing. Like the most famous person in your cast being Clancy Brown, like a all due respect and love to Clancy Brown, a known character actor that you don't really know where you've seen him in. But you've seen him.
Starting point is 00:11:03 He's around. SpongeBob. Like the most, you know, probably the most popular. cartoon character of all time. Exactly. I don't know where I've seen Glancy Brown before. But you've seen Clancy Brown.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But again, like, what do you think about these young kids? Because they've got to carry a lot dramatically, physically, and we've got to be intrigued for these first three episodes. How do you think this young cast did? I think the young cast is amazing. And it's interesting because
Starting point is 00:11:28 I think they took this away from the boys where it's... I remember the first couple episodes of the first season of the boys where it was just like pure violence. It was like, oh, we're going to blow this man up. We're going to run through this woman. We're going to go to this orgasm place where, orgasm, orgy place, where all these people are doing a lot of things. And we're not really focused on anyone else, but like five characters. And they're always screaming. They're only screaming. They're always yelling at each other. Not really like actually talking grounded.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And then we have this show where it's like, the first thing we see is this young girl in her family and just being a young girl. And I'm like, oh. And then quickly not being a young girl. Yeah, and then, but even that transition is like, transition is like subtle to like, she's an orphaned at the Red River Institute. Here's how her day to day is. Here's how she communicates with people. She doesn't really know anything in the environment because she's in an orphanage that people don't care about these kids because most of these kids killed their families.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And I think those actors in Gen V have shown themselves to be like, oh, we're like just calm kids talking and we're blowing this out. And I need that because in the boys, it's always so, everything's up to 12. And it's underrated. It's very underrated. world building and the boys. Because even that, the cynicism of knowing that there's an orphanage
Starting point is 00:12:41 mostly geared towards kids who have killed their parents with their superpowers on accident. Like, to know that that's so commonplace that that's, that there's a need, there's like a consumer-based need for kids who killed their
Starting point is 00:12:57 parents' orphanage rather than normal orphanage. Well, those kids get adopted. That was the part about the boys where I'm like, they have a lot a room to do a lot of spin-offs because we're focused on the stars. We're not focused on the kids that literally killed their families and now have to go to the Red River Institute. And by the time they're 18, if they're not adopted, they go to an even worse place. So we're just like, wait, what does this mean? What is this world? What is this? And it's like, yeah, this place exists for
Starting point is 00:13:25 other kids. I don't know. The GenV gets to explore a lot of things that the voice doesn't get to because they're like kids in it. And also their parents basically force them to do this. And And that's interesting thing because the boys always has its eye on the bigger ball, like the global impact of what homelander and these mega corporations that are propping up the idea of superheroes as a staff record label is doing to the rest of the world. When we zero in on a couple of kids figuring out college life and wanting to be the next homeland or wanting to be a hero. a hero to just their sister that they're trying to find out in the world that's been adopted by some other family
Starting point is 00:14:10 or so they think it's a very interesting and intimate story that I didn't know that the boys universe was capable of and I think that's very very impressive Jomey what did you think about the type of acting that we saw from these kids and the sort of like smaller scale
Starting point is 00:14:29 stories that were being told in this school You mentioned it I'm another these people I've never seen them before in my life I don't associate with any of these kids I didn't watch Sabrina I remember Sabrina when she had a cat
Starting point is 00:14:43 And Back in the 90s when it was a talking puppet This one also has a cat Oh really A very cute cat Does it does it but is he like a Sassy jazz crooner that like A sassy jazz crooner
Starting point is 00:14:55 Like he was in the first one He was singing and stuff in the okay This is a normal cat This isn't the WB frog He didn't talk The WB frog The cat didn't talk The cat didn't talk
Starting point is 00:15:03 in the new Sabrina? No, he's like a demon demon. Oh, no, I need my cat to talk. No, I want a real cat. A cat that's a demon. I need to be a little sassy. A little sassy? A little sassy?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah, so I have no idea who these characters were. And so I think it helped me because I'm like, okay, cool. This is a guy with mental powers and this is a girl who can bloodbend and this is somebody who can shrink, you know what I mean? Like, actually, well, I knew the character who shrinks. She was in an American Pie movie on Netflix. You watched the American Pie movie on Netflix. It was really terrible. It's really bad.
Starting point is 00:15:37 That was, and that's a wild choice for you, Jomey. I need to know exact circumstances as to how you watched that American Pie spin off. Which is by the way, like the ninth American Pie's melt that's going straight to DVD. What is it? I have a, just a few words for you. It was the pandemic because all you got to say, man, you was bored at the crib. You know what I'm saying? You go through all you.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like, I'm like, looking for rom-coms for watch. I'm like, man. Rom-coms? Rom-coms? It's, well, like, it's got like, you. You know what I'm saying? It was like, long, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, boy. Rom-coms. You got 30 seconds, Jomey. Give me the elevator pitch to this American Pie movie that you saw. So here's the thing, right? I'm looking at it. Luzzi Broadway, by the way, is the one that we're talking about. Exactly, right.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Who plays Emma? Was it a cricket, little cricket? Yes. And so I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay. So like the premise is basically these four girls want to say this one due to prom. Right? The same dude to prom. And I was like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:16:27 How bad could it be? And it wasn't great. you know what I mean like I love a good high school romance like a little high school teen teen romp yeah you know I mean I do want to talk about Jazz Sinclair our main character Marie I love her
Starting point is 00:16:44 tough start tough start to the show and I think this is kind of why I want to I don't know if I want to bump on the show for how it portrays a lot of stuff because there's a lot of on the news those metaphors with a lot of things that kids go through. And it gets to the heart of like a lot of,
Starting point is 00:17:08 possibly like, tough subject matter that kids grow up with in their adolescence. Our main character's powers manifest in her manipulating blood that has to be cut out of her or someone. So that takes the form of her cutting herself very often to become very strong and down. And then her seemingly best friend in school has shrinking powers that are triggered by her purging and making herself throw up. I'm going to go out and say right now that if you are particularly sensitive to self-harm and the effects of eating disorders, that you probably shouldn't watch this show.
Starting point is 00:17:51 No, 100%. Because there's a lot of it. and I don't know, like, I don't, I've not been suffered or personally affected by either of those things, but I am worried at the idea of those being either portrayed for just simply shock value or laughs, but does it, like, did it ever occur to you that like, okay, maybe they might be playing with fire a little bit too much with the things that kids can deal with? I think that's part of like the show Like kind of like the message The show was maybe trying to get across
Starting point is 00:18:25 You know And I think at the end of the day With With their specific powers You know You talk You think about Emma and how she was like Just talking to somebody
Starting point is 00:18:38 She thought she could trust right And then it ended up being like She tried to co-opt it For her own thing Yeah It's just something that like The whole thing just seems like really unfortunate, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:49 And so for them to like, hey, they have that conversation in the room where it's like, you, you have to throw up. Oh, you have to cut yourself. And it's like, oh, shit, we both have to like do terrible things to access our powers. Like, ultimately it's worth it. And I think in the first three episodes, they don't like totally, like, figure it out. I don't think they, like, solve it at all. Because in the third episode, she has a conversation with the mom, you know, and it's,
Starting point is 00:19:16 and it's like, she taught me how to do this. you know. Yeah. And that's where I think that the metaphor and like the storytelling is actually quite smart because my mom teaching me to do this, like the like the complexities of like trauma that comes from your family and like things that are imprinted on you both as a parent and as a child. It's like it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It's a lot to go on. Yeah. And I think my point is this like we still have a lot of like five episodes left in the season. Sure, sure. To deal with all this. Like this is just the start. This is just the beginning of that conversation. And hopefully at the end, we reached like, you know, a nice, happy little thing about it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Maybe not, but, you know, I think it's ongoing. That comes into so ongoing. Exactly. And this isn't even me writing off the show. I think that it's dealing with something that can be pretty heavy along with, you know, an intriguing mystery and a lot of, like, you know, adult humor and, you know, penis jokes and stuff like that. And again, I don't want to be reductive in the fact that the show can't be both and it can't handle both. But I'm curious as to how we think that that balance.
Starting point is 00:20:18 is going to be achieved, possibly in later episodes. Well, I think that's what I like, what I like right now about it is there is nothing funny about it. No. No one's laughing. None of it's played for laughing. None of it's played for laugh. The audience isn't laughing.
Starting point is 00:20:32 No one in the show is laughing. People are upset about it. And that conversation, it is a metaphor, but I also think, like, these people are getting into Gen V. or Godokin University because they also have major followings online. They're big stars. So even if her mom, like, taught her. how to do it. Her mom is still kind of that momager that is like you need
Starting point is 00:20:52 to, this is how you're famous. This is how you got into the school. Like you can't stop doing this because of like, it's like not only is it affecting her body for what she's doing. It's like this is your superpower and this is the only reason you got into this school. And the mom is really manipulating her off of that. And I think
Starting point is 00:21:08 there's going to be in the future, whether it's the next episodes or the next season, we see characters that have powers and abilities that have to obtain it in horrible ways. Because we did see the guy in the boys who has to literally cut off his limbs. And he was like, this isn't a superpower. I have to use this to get money with weirdos that want to watch me cut off my limbs. I'm not comparing that to literally purging. But it's like, I think they're just showing that not every ability is something that
Starting point is 00:21:33 is a gift. And when you mix that with the, and like, I want to say this in like a good and a bad way, the heartlessness of kids growing up in both a college environment and like an adolescent, pervasive online siphoning this into a career type of attitude. It made me think about like oh my god, like should kids not be on TikTok? Like are we on, we're all online too much. Like it's the idea
Starting point is 00:22:00 that like you're looking through all of those things. And I'm grateful for it because this is also paired with the show that's about superheroes. Well people definitely do need to log off. That's like for sure. 100%. But I think what's interesting. Not you, Jomey. Keep on those tweets. Jesus Christ. Damn, baby. I'm the first person
Starting point is 00:22:16 I mean. Okay, I'm, baby. Online. No, but I think what's interesting about, like, all this stuff is this is the first generation of kids who know that, oh, we didn't get born with superpowers. Our parents injected us with V when we were kids. And, like, the reason we're the way we are is because there are choices, right? And so having to reconcile that, like, oh, cool, like, you injected me with V.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And now I have to throw up every time when he's my powers is something that I think is pretty, like, it's pretty heavy. You know what I mean? And so we see it with a lot of these kids, like their relationships with their folks with people who, you know, raise them, people who brought them up. Like, they have a very complicated relationship because it's like, you did this to me
Starting point is 00:23:03 and now I have to live up to your expectations. And I have to do crazy things because of your decisions. And like I said, like, it's not solved in the first year episodes. It's just something that's very touched upon. And it's that existential question that, like, we're even seeing in the real world where, like, Gen Z is kind of coming to the sense of, like, okay, well, just, I didn't ask to be born. I didn't like, just be, like, you had me for selfish reasons. You did this because of you. I got to pay bills now.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to pay taxes because my parents wanted to have a kid now. That's the, again, that's the best part about Gen V is they get to explore those things because Homelanders like, yeah, I'm homelander. Mave even is like, yeah, I'm in the seven. We're only talking to people that have become celebrities, either the little boy that was the doctor on TV, the memorizer. All right. Whatever his name was. Like, where those people are all adults now.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They're like, well, shit, that sucks. The only person that looked like it really affected was black noir because he didn't want it. But, like, we're with these kids that are now like, okay. And then also we're in a time we're like, okay, people are mentally ill. A lot of kids are mentally unwell. How is that going to affect them in their powers? What is going to happen with that? You remember in the first episode she gets there, she's like, man, the window doesn't open.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And they're like, oh, because, you know, for the reason, you know, people flying out, escaping. It's like, no, they did it so you can't jump out and hurt yourself or something. Yeah. I mean, like, it's very, like, kind of like prison, you know what I mean? Like, very, very scary to think about, you know, all the implications of, like, that world and, like, all the bad stuff that happens. that like we know coming from the boys but that Marie doesn't know. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:46 She has no idea. And getting into even the first major conflict of that first episode, Golden Boy just goes away because he doesn't want to deal with the consequences of the woods. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And I thought he was there for long haul, man. I think that's crazy. I was certain he was going to be sticking around. I thought he, okay, I'm so, I should have put money on it. I should have put money on it. I was like, I was like, I, for some reason, I'm not seeing a lot of Arnold Schwarzenegger's kid in this.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And like all the trailers, I was like, I'm seeing him in the same parts and the same clothes. And I was like, this is weird. And I was like, does he run away? Is he just going to be like homelander and just disappear with a child? Okay, well, you're doing trailer math at that point. I mean, I want, it's, I think all of us, all of us watch a single trailer now because of what Marvel has done with us. And we're like, oh, this is weird. But I genuinely was like, I was like, he's not in any of the promo videos.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Like when they were doing TikToks, it was like the rest of them were together and blood, he was gone. I was like- I wasn't locked in on all that stuff. So I'm watching it. And I mean, first of all, rest and peace, Brink, I was like, dang, they got Mr. Crabs. He had to go for some. Got him out of here. I believe Luke. I believe Luke.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I don't mean, I'm not saying I don't believe him, but in terms of like the character, I was like, dang, I thought, you know, he'd be like off there teaching classes, doing speeches and get to hear that sultry voice for, you know, a couple of sense. My brain was like, man, they really couldn't even afford Clancy Brown for that long. That's also very true. Jesus Christ. They put a lot money in this. Clancy Brown to shut it down. It is Jeff Bezos, Amazon money. They afforded Bosch.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Okay. They put too much in that Lord of the Rings show. Clancy Brown's per episode ask can't be that hard. You know what I mean? It can't be that difficult. You think? No. I'm not calling him cheap.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'm just saying. No, no, I think he asked for a lot. He's Clancy Brown. He's Spongeball. He can do whatever he wants. I just, again. I keep saying Spongeball. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That's on me. I keep going, he's SpongeBob. No, but, like, he gets fraud, and I'm like, damn. And then, you know, we have a scene with Arnold Schwarzenegger's son. I don't know these characters' names. I'm just like, I always call him sports. It's tough when they don't have superhero names and you just need to remember them as, like, Marie. Marie and Jordan Lee, and they have that scene when they fight.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And I'm like, how is she going to get out of this? Like, everybody's seeing you, bro. You can't be the Goldenmore. You're naked in a hallway on fire, my dude. Right? Like, if you're out here, like, doing this. I was getting out of this one. Hey, how are you getting out of this one?
Starting point is 00:27:12 He said, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to hug my best friend, tell him like a little secret, and then blow myself up. I was like, oh. The boys always leave you on that cliffhanger. They're so good at those end episodes, those last 30 seconds for every episode. They're always covered in blood. It's always going to have like some needle drop and then like, oh, oh. And then it plays a hip song. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:31 If the boy's going to do one thing, it's going to blow a human being up. And show at least two penises. The penis quota hit again. They always got to put a penis in it The penis quota Always So Man
Starting point is 00:27:46 I will Now here I'm not complaining Like I'm not a problem But that scene Which she's tiny Oh my God We can't
Starting point is 00:27:57 Too much Did way too much Way too much Way too much Okay Five minute I sew about all the crazy shit That happened in these first three episodes Because
Starting point is 00:28:04 Boy That was way too much But the punching To Arnold Schwarzenegger was kind of funny by Jordan when they're fighting in the hallway naked and she gets down and punches her in the dick. The balls, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I was like, that's kind of funny. That is funny. But when she's just, when she's tiny and just like hugging the, I'm like, no. I felt, I was like not, I also immediately was like, oh, man, not like, Emma, I love Emma. Like, don't make the, like, don't make her have to be the one that has to literally hug a penis. Listen, that's the, and that was in the pilot. She saw the script.
Starting point is 00:28:35 She had to see the sides. She said, I'm like, you would be comfortable with. with... That couldn't... Okay. I mean, it's the boys. There's always going to... Somebody's dig going to come out, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Or explode. Or explode. Yeah, it's going to be bloody. You're right. Or go into... Or be on fire. Yeah, or just be on fire. You know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:28:54 But, you know, I'm like... Like, you know, if you... I figure what you probably talked about it. I don't know if they even made the podcast. But like, I'm supposed to watch this with, like, folks around, man. Oh, you don't. You can. You literally avoided watching this at home and watched it.
Starting point is 00:29:08 elsewhere. Some parents wouldn't be in the room to see this. You can't, you can't, like, put it on a bit. Unless you, like, live alone, you know, you can't, like, how do you explain to, like, your significant other, somebody you live with? You got that on TV, and you're just going to be like, it's not a thing that you walk in seeing.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Also, it's like, even with, I'm so sorry to say, and I love, I love you. I know that you guys are listening, Gen V and the voice. I love you guys. But, like, I, even with friends that do watch the show, I'm like, I don't know, we can watch it. Like, I can't look at you and then look at this. I'm going to watch it myself and then we can come talk about it.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah. You know what? This is the biggest, this is the big symptom of the country. You know what I'm saying? In how America's, now, think about it. Because the violence were like, hey, you can blow people up. Oh, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:29:48 As soon as you see one penis, we're like, hey. Don't be prudish now. Hey. Hey. We have to open our minds. Let's switch this up. Let's watch it together. Let's go back to the first episode.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Let's go back to the first episode. Watch it together. Then we'll go back to the first episode of the third season. And we'll all hold hands. No. Oh, no. That's touching. Well, here's the thing about the, at least the Gen V gave us like, you know, 35, 40 minutes before it went off the rails.
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's true. Right. Season three was like, season three pilot? Pilot, we're going to hear. Jump in. Off the, like, in there. Not even ten minutes. All episode.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You know what I mean? The first pilot of the third, the third season first pilot was less than heroism for me. Like, heroism was a lot. Going in is too much. Yay. There's too much. I'm not going to explain it. I'm not going to spoil it for y'all.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm not going to spoil it for the people. Is he said spoilers? No, no, here's the great thing. We're allowed to say whatever we want. We're allowed on this podcast to describe and talk about anything that we want. We choose to not in front of our coworkers and friends. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable. Because if you've seen it, you know what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And if you don't, live in that book. Get it? And the girls that don't, I live in your bliss for ignorance as long as you can. I wish it was me. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's not like a proof thing, But it's definitely like, yeah, I can't like, all right, man, let's put this up on the TV, the big 60, 70 inch television. Yeah, yeah, that's too big.
Starting point is 00:31:12 With the 4K HD. Q lead. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I mean? You can't like, you got to like be selective. You got to like, all right, well, is everybody's sleep? Cool. And he put your phone out, put your headphones in.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And you just got to like watch it on the couch. No, that's worse. What does someone sneaks up behind you? Nah, man, at that point you lost. Then you're, you got to look at your life. If somebody sneaking up on you in your place of residence. But then all you see is just. like a girl holding a day.
Starting point is 00:31:37 At that point it's porn consumption. If you have to go and put the phone in headphones like that, bro, you, at that point you watch it's boring. Thank you, that's where you got too far. Then it's a you problem. Now you're hiding it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Now you hide it. So you know exactly what the problem is. You're sending yourself up for disasters what you're doing. Exactly, exactly. That point, yeah, at that point you might as well just own it. I'm saying, the biggest TV you have, you know, 4K or 4K, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:05 That sound. No, black, put the fucking sonos surround sound on that thing, let it rot. I mean, at that point, fuck it. You know what I'm saying? Shit, they're going to be dicks on screen.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Listen, it is what it, it's the voice. Dicks on screen. Dix on screen. A little bit. Maybe I love a white lotus, though. Man. Same here. Oh, my God.
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Starting point is 00:33:56 you picked out a couple of crazy little Easter eggs here. God, man. This is insane. And so, I don't know if this is like my big thing, but this is something I thought about heavily on watching this show, right? this show is so good. And I think the boys is so good that we forget that it is in self what it is parroting. Right?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Like they do the whole like, oh, Vot Plus. And then you're like, well, I'm watching this on Amazon Prime. Right. You know? And I think like they had a lining here, which is like not even a sub. or like a, you know, a little, like a stray. This is a direct pinpoint accurate, Navy SEAL train shot.
Starting point is 00:34:50 So in episode one, remember they go to Emma and Marie. She goes to the performer arts track. She's like, yo, you have to talk to people. You know, come on, Marie. Like, it's cool. Don't worry about it. And they meet the girl who eventually out Emma's. thing. And she's apparently actress.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And she's like, yeah, I was doing this thing. And here's, I have the line word for word. I'm doing this limited series on Vod Plus. It's an elevated superhero thing. Really a meditation on grief told through 70 years of sitcom. What does that sound like to y'all? That sounds like a little show called Wanda Vision. Oh, I was going to say Wanda Vision? That's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And I'm like, you're not slick, pal. I'm here. I see the vision. I don't know why they, like, that was like the specific shot. But it really got me thinking. I'm like, yo, this is a spinoff of a show called, this is a spinoff of the boys. I mean, and we spend so much time in this universe going on like,
Starting point is 00:36:00 oh, the commodification, the exploitation of all these things of like, you know, the superheroes. And, you know, like, they got the interviews and the interviews are all written or scripted. Right, very, right. And all the stuff is fake and all the stuff is just for money and commodity. I'm like, it's just tough coming from the company
Starting point is 00:36:18 that's owned by Jeff Bezos. That's all I'm saying. It's tough, but it's also great because if you can get away with it, of course, get away. And that's what I'm saying, right? And that's what I'm saying, right? This show is so well done and, like, as, like, it doesn't do too much on that front
Starting point is 00:36:35 to where when you're watching it, it's kind of like, you feel like you're watching like hypocrisy at work. You know what I'm saying? It picks its spots where it's going to be like really heavy handed on this stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And you don't, if you're not paying attention, like you don't really notice it. Right? I ran that thing back like eight times, but like, am I hearing correctly? You know,
Starting point is 00:36:58 like y'all making fun of WandaVision, brother, if you could make a thousand boy spin-offs, you'd make a thousand boy spin-offs. It's the writer being like, that fucking show did. so well. I mean, Matt Shack.
Starting point is 00:37:09 My first treatment got passed on and I'm going to be so much. Maybe it's a shout out to Matt Shackman because I know he directed an episode in season one. So maybe just like a little like shout out to the boy. But I'm thinking like, y'all, man, if y'all could be Disney, if y'all could be Marvel. You ain't exactly what you'd be doing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:25 It's funny because I think they're, which is, they could, they could be splicing it between Amazon and Disney making fun of Amazon Studios and Disney. But I think they're like using the mold of what Disney he has a chokehold of and making fun of that more so because even the VOT International Plus, when you look at the actual movies that are out there, there's like over 80 movies that VOT International Plus has dropped, not real at all. None of them are real.
Starting point is 00:37:49 They're made up. But those are all the posters that are showing up in these kids' rooms. And then they're also like, oh, here's the animated series. Here's all the food restaurants we're making off of it. Also, you can watch our news on YouTube. And I'm like, this is disgusting. I'm like, the capitalism in this is. grotesque, and this is all a fake world.
Starting point is 00:38:08 This is not real. Why are they going this far to do anything? And it's like, well, Disney's done it. I know. And the greatness of that satire is really where I don't want to call the show inherently brave for it, but it's more of the fact that I... I'm scared. It's brave for the fact that they're doing it on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yes, exactly. Because I'm like, anywhere else, I'm like, you could have free reign. But the fact that they're letting you do all this stuff, I'm like, I bet. I bet you're printing money. If the check's clear, then they don't care. Exactly. Once you make a bunch of money, they're like, oh, we can just keep, like, we can keep doing this.
Starting point is 00:38:45 We can just keep making fun of ourselves. Or not ourselves, but like of Amazon. Eric Kripke is probably like, he does, like, he's probably like, no, let's do more. We're, we're on Amazon. We're going to make fun of it. Cripi's eating five. He's eating just five. We're going to make fun of this.
Starting point is 00:38:57 We're going to get Evan, whatever's name on it. And we're going to just going to make fun of this platform that we're on. I think the company. modification in this world is something that, I mean, not inherently scary because I'm sure that happens at some, you know, in some points. But remember in episode two after the whole Luke thing, the Golden Boy incident, and they're on the phone. And we see it a lot in the boys, but it's basically like, yeah, well, we can't involve Jordan because they're not good in Tallahassee and, you know, Georgia. So we got to go with, we got to go with Marie and Andre. Yeah, Andre and Marie. And they're
Starting point is 00:39:33 like, yeah, man, we'll go with them because. they'll be great for the NAACB. I'm like, damn, that probably happens all the time. The bot has, Ashley, has become the worst human being. My, I hate Ashley. But it's so good, though. It's so good. And that's what makes her good characters, how much we're pissed about how she, that trajectory, hate Ashley.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I need her pack expeditiously. Ashley acting like, she, actually acting like, when she was in that phone call, I went, where did this come from? I said, what did this come from? Yeah, yeah. What happened? The second season, the first season. Best supporting actress over here.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I was like, you're acting crazy. You're acting real brave all of a sudden. Now the homeowner's not in the goddamn room. She got that wig on. She lost all her hair with stress. Right? So she got that wig on. I forgot she did.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I forgot she straight up did. And then how rich she was she can get good wigs. But, man. She's having a hard time. Well, no, we shouldn't. We should not like her. We should not like her. We should.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I don't. I don't. Oh, boy. And you know, you know in the next season of the boys. She's going to do something that's going to make us sad for her. Who? Me? No, man.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I lost that a long. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I was like... What a great character assassination moment if she gets killed in Gen V and not the boys? And oh my God. I'd be mad for her agent.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'd be like, no, no, no, no. I'm getting... This world, and speaking of Ashley, this is the world I love of Gen V of like, it doesn't matter also what happens in GenV. Like, it does not matter what these kids do. Like, it does not matter what happened to break. it does not matter because it's overseen by VOT International So as long as VOT is still thriving
Starting point is 00:41:07 It's all going to get swept And it's going to be swept out of the rug And that's when we're fully through the looking glass here Because Let's say come the end of this first season If this isn't even like This doesn't need to reflect directly on You know the next season of the boys
Starting point is 00:41:22 Or anything in the boys universe Or anything like that But if it does Are we kind of through the looking glass here of like okay, are we just trying to make an interconnected world of the boys? And is that kind of too much for this show to handle? Or is that just, you know, breaking new ground at this point? Wait, explain more.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Explain more. Like, is the fact that, like, Gen V's consequences needing or not needing to be directly influenced by the boys or from the boys, does that get a little too meta with what the series of the boys is trying to do? Or do you think that these can stand to be a bit more isolated? I think both. I think a little bit of both. But I think what's going to happen with the boys is that it's going to be,
Starting point is 00:42:06 in which they've been doing so well in these three episodes, is just making it so little. Like, what we have in the boys right now is that woman going to power becoming the vice president. Right. So whatever she probably does, if she becomes direct president, will affect a lot of people
Starting point is 00:42:20 and maybe 3% will, like, indirectly affect Godoken University. So that's why I'm like, I don't, it's not too tangential that it's like, it can't be cut, but it can be severed. It can be severed and it can be fine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And by the way, I keep wanting to call the school Hadukin University. Yeah. Hadoken. Hadoken. Nah, I think, yeah, this can obviously, you know, live in its own universe. I don't think Huey needs to be like, man, we got to go to Doogun. Yeah, yeah. I don't need to see Jack Quaid.
Starting point is 00:42:52 It would. But like, you know what they don't need to do that? You know what they could do? You know what they could do? They could end the show with being like, oh, because of. of, like, I don't know if they end the show this way, but they could just make another school. They could be like, God, God,
Starting point is 00:43:06 is an insane school. There's only one school for soups to go to. Why can't they go to the lamplighter State College? And is that like a Hogwarts spoof? Is that where that is? Yes, it is. Everybody's in robes and they're just like carrying
Starting point is 00:43:22 Wazeroom. And you know damn well. That's the first school I applied. What is it when you apply to school and you're like, this is the only school I'm going to? Early decision. Yeah, yeah. That's the one I'm going to. Yeah, I'm definitely right. I've got one decision. That's it. Bamma Rush.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Okay. I'll tell you what, man. I see a dude explode in the sky. I'm transferring out. I'm transferring out. I'm going to out of there. I was also like... It's not where I want to be.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Did you see the kids that have different powers and there's this one girl in the background that has the rat tail? Yeah. Oh, and then she would... I would leave that school. I'd be like, there's no use for me here. What am I going to do? What am I going to do? Well, here's the...
Starting point is 00:43:55 You don't know what she could do... You don't know what the rest of those powers are. She could just have the rat sale. She could run really fast. She could, like, you know, survive a nuclear apocalypse or something. That's true. A rat, I don't know. Well, sure.
Starting point is 00:44:09 This is like cockroach powers. This is, like, like, different roguers. Like, sky high grown up, you know what I mean? Yeah. Hell yeah, baby. And, you know, instead of turning in the gerbils or, you know, like, just being able to, like, big glow in the dark. You have rat tails and you can light on fire. Dude is basically Johnny Storm, by the way.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I think, like. Yeah, he is. Yeah. What was really funny. in the first episode is they literally like they take the character description, Loveable Asshole,
Starting point is 00:44:36 and they put that in the script and they let us know that that guy he's a lovable asshole because he told us that he's a lovable assail. I was getting in the simplest, simplest, like please do not take this to heart, Magneto from Andre, where it would not meanness,
Starting point is 00:44:52 but I was like, his powers, he can just like manipulate things. Things, right? Well, is it only Is it specific? Well, no, because wasn't it like glass? No, it was metal.
Starting point is 00:45:05 It was metal? It was metal. It was metal. Because with the bird that he did. It was a coin, yeah. Oh, it was a coin? I thought it was ice for some reason. He was like, heads or tails. Oh, yep, yep, yep, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And then he turned it to a bird, and then somebody bounced into him, and then he, you know, stabs some lady in the neck. Could you imagine? Well, you can't, no, you can imagine. But being like, oh, I don't need to now. Girl, you like this? And then be like, oh.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And he was been crazy game. I was like, Andre, I'm not familiar with your game. I apologize. And he was doing his thing. At the best come home with me, at worst, dance with me. I said, I'm interested. And then went slice and I went, I'm outing.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'm outing. You know, this isn't funny. Turns out that wasn't the worst. Dancing was not the worst thing. The worst thing he could say is stabbing you in the neck with a bird. With the bird, right? It's not funny, but she, so they have, that scene goes down. Marie saves the girl from, like, bleeding out.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's all great. She goes on Instagram. It's all popular, right? We go to, to go back to school, and she had to meet with Brink, right? And as soon as she got that, or as soon as the Invisable R.A. came, she got the nose.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like, oh, she's getting kicked out. Like, there's, I, there's no way this scene doesn't end with her getting kicked out. You said that? I said it. I did it. I genuinely was on Emma's side. I was like, oh, hell yeah, they saw her.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And my thing was, so she went out with popular kids, right? In my head, I'm like, somebody's got to take the rap for us. Kind of like the wire. Somebody got to go down. Well, who did it for A-Train? When A-Train ran through that woman.
Starting point is 00:46:34 That's how I was going through it. I was like, oh, they just clean it up. Yeah, but that's the seven. That's true. That's true. When you've got like everybody on IG caught you lacking, you know what I mean? And so he's like, you did a great job. You know, hey, it's all about sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I was like, oh, she's caught. But yeah, no, your star quarterback gets caught at a party with some things that he shouldn't be having. But he's also with his buddies that don't go. Somebody's got to take the heat for. And Mr. Crabbs, that knife, that knife ended up being like, well, you're just an orphaned. So I don't really care. Like nobody.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Also, it wasn't, I think it wasn't Brink, but I think it was Polarity, um, uh, Andre's dad. He was like, yeah, also blood powers. Yeah, that'll play. I'm sure she's got like hepatitis or something. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's not sanitary.
Starting point is 00:47:24 That, first of all, that dude, man. He is. Wild. Wow. He is really trying to live through his son. Like, he was going crazy. That's the only character I was like, yeah, we get it. Like, he's really trying to live through his son.
Starting point is 00:47:37 He's like, I need you to get your shit together because they won't look at me the same if you don't. When he's trying to call his son to get to that press conference or to get to that interview, and he's like, pick the phone. It's like, wow. Also, it like triggered me back to my mom and I went, oh, God. I was like, someone answered the phone. But I do love some stupid guards. I really do. I love some stupid goons that'll just like try to take the laptop and clearly not see a person underneath the desk.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yep. Also, the laptop is like, definitely closing. Definitely closing by himself. It's definitely going. Like, you don't need to close it. If you guys had to go to Godog University, what power would you want? I wouldn't. Rat to?
Starting point is 00:48:16 No. No, I don't. I don't know. Probably some like metabolism. I want like a steady digestive system. That's what is what? You should talk to your doctor about that. No, trust me.
Starting point is 00:48:29 We're on Celsius number two today. Like, I'm doing this to myself. Talk, imagine that's your superpower. It's like, your guts just worked fine. Yeah. Like, yeah, my intestines. Not only that, I can ingest anything. You can just a bomb and it'll explode inside of me and I'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Just eat something that like medicine, right? It's kind of a lame-ass power. I can hold you. Oh, and like having just a rat tail isn't? I was joking. Well, she had one in the shit. She didn't ask for it? No.
Starting point is 00:48:53 We said if we could have one. If I wanted to have one. Yes. I'm applying this to real life. We've got the Justice League. We got Superman. Manist's steel. We've got Wonder Woman.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah. You know, we've got the freaking Green Lantern. Do you know how, do you know how many episodes of hot ones I could go on? I think I just like, crush those interview questions? You are, you are, I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. Yeah, I got guts. Iron guts right here.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I think I would want the invisible guy because then I could just like go steal a bunch of things. I just have to take off on my clothes. Yeah, you just got to be naked though. That's the part of that. Well, that's why I'm naked. No one else can see me unless I'm going to. But you have to wear. Or glasses and a hat for people to know that you're there?
Starting point is 00:49:29 No, when I'm normally there, I'd put on actual clothes. That guy's a pervert. That's fair. I would put on actual clothes. Yeah, he could have clothes on. No, he could just have clothes on. He just doesn't want to. They say that in the very first episode, they're like, your dick's out.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And he's like, yeah, and we still have this consent and training. So what are you going to do about it? Yeah. Can you see it? No. Insane. I mean, I've been doing a lot. I've been, like, really into Mortal Kombat one right now.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Oh, hell yeah. So I want, I want raining powers. I want lightning control. I want to be able to, like, teleport. and then like... But teleportation in the world of the boys It's tricky. That's exactly what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:50:03 We like, we say like, man, I love these powers but then like in the boys, like in like an ideal universe and like Marvel DC, it's cool. I get to zap where I'm going. My clothes don't burn. I don't like blow up every time like I touch down. You have to choose the character in the boys. As soon as I enter the world of the boys
Starting point is 00:50:18 and I like zap up or like, you know, the whole like lightning actually happens and like everything's on fire. I'm saying. If I, like, zab it to my room, I just blow it up. And now, like, all right. You're going through so many phones. So many phones, so many clothes, so many houses.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah. Like, I literally can't use my power because if I, like, I touch somebody the wrong way, oh, their heart just went out because I had shocked them. Oh, no. You're, like, hugging any of your parents that got pacemakers. Right, exactly. Anything like that. You know, like, it's all bad.
Starting point is 00:50:45 You should, um, also, if you did that power, you would probably have to be in, like, the top three. Oh. Like, would you want to be, like, one of the major heroes? I'm built for it. I don't. Shut up, I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I'm going. What you want? Get out. I'm a competitor. No, I'm done. I'm ready to compete. You afraid to compete, Jess? I'm not afraid to compete.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I just want to be naked and steal money. That's all I want in this life. Kern, what power are you on, bro? I think I'll take the super speed, but does that mean my heart gives out like A-trains stuff? Well, no, that's doing it. He was doing V. Like, he was trying to, you know. How many drugs are you doing?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Super speed easily. Super speed easily. Because you got a growth metabolism. Because then you have to make sure you don't run through someone. You have to eat. Yeah, take one to somebody's girlfriend and now like the whole seven's in jeopardy. See, I'd like to think I'm better than that though. Like, I'd like to think.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Well, you're not going to be running in the bike lane. That's for sure. One. Two, I think like it was a matter of him just not caring. That's really what it was. I would be, you know, a good person with my supposed to be. You say that now and so you're famous. And the game changes you.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And the game changes you run. So when you obliterate somebody on the street, you're like, oh my God. I'm so sorry. Once you get that Nike, that Nike check. A Nike sponsorship here. Also, Kermm, you would be, yeah, Kerm will be in the Olympics, and he'll be doing that thing that
Starting point is 00:51:59 Dash did and the Incredibles and trying to slow down, but win every single time. And I'd be like, damn, who, who's, here are you really? Was it Zion's shoes that blew out? Yeah. That's why I couldn't be like...
Starting point is 00:52:12 Kern's shoes are going to blow out like this first time that he tries it just because he didn't get the right sponsorship. To just his point, that's why I couldn't be Spider-Man. Because, you know, whole thing with Spider-Man is great, power of responsibility. I wouldn't be a villain.
Starting point is 00:52:23 But like, saving the world. You wouldn't be broke. I would be the greatest athlete of all time. I would refuse to be broke if I was Spider-Man. I would simply refuse to be broke. No, like, if I got bit by Spada right now and I turn into the all-world athlete that he is, forget Webb's, sorry, rest in peace, Uncle Ben, I'm making these Benjamin's, you feel me? I'm going to the league, NBA, NFL.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'm playing until I'm 95. They're going to be like, yo, I'm breaking all of bronze records. They're going to do the test on you, and they're like, the needle can't penetrate his skin. Don't. It's tough. built. I'm going to take a drug test. I'm going to come up clean.
Starting point is 00:52:57 You know what I'm saying? How do we know? We can't penetrate your skin to see. Oh, he's just getting an eyeball. You got to pee, right? You're like, the drug test. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:53:04 That's true. I ain't taking no steroids. I'm just a goat athlete. I'm playing until I'm 106, right? I'm going to be the first player in NBA history for 10,000 points. I'm the first person in history to be in the NFL Hall of Fame, NBA Hall of Fame, right? I'm going to be the greatest athlete of all.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I'm going to win. All the gold medals is going to be insane. I'm like, yo, how did this man? It's like, I got by the bad spotter once. The monkey paw is going to be like every time you do the power, you're dying more every day. In the boys' universe, absolutely. Like, that would be in the boys' universe. No, that's something like small.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Like, he loses his hair or something. Jidimily like. Got it. Definitely shooting webs out your asshole. That's the boys. That's what it would be. Every time he sneeze. Every time he sneeze.
Starting point is 00:53:48 That's what it would be. And then people are so disgusting with you. They don't want you on the team. Exactly, right? Oh, man. I don't care how good. good he is. He shits. So then he's got to invent some sort of like industrial diaper situation.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Exactly. To catch it. All the girls are like, no. He's wearing a diaper to protect his web butt. Oh boy. We can think of some worse consequences now. All right then. Steve, we got, I think like five left. What do you want to see in the next five episodes? What are you excited about going forward? I like, I kind of want, I want a prolonged mystery.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I kind of want the idea of almost like, I want, I want the, the boys to do their equivalent of like lost where they get to the end of this like crazy conspiracy and there's more. It goes deeper. There's like somebody at the beginning of this that's going to mess their whole shit up
Starting point is 00:54:37 and they got to start from square one. They're kicked out of school. They're chastised. They got no followers. They got none of this. And I want this soft reset with all of these kids figuring out this mystery. It's a moral victory, but at what cost. That's what I want.
Starting point is 00:54:53 What about you, Jess? I think I wasn't one to kill Ashley. I mean, obviously. That's like, you know. But that would be fun to do it in the Gen. B. Yeah, sure. That would be fun to see it happen in Gen B.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Because then that even makes her death like so much less than what she is. Because then when we go back to the boys, they wouldn't care. They'd be like, oh, they just over, they overthink about it. They're like, oh, okay, who's the new Ashley then? And then we just keep going. Oh, man, that would suck for Ashley. The actress, I'd feel horrible for. No, yeah, and that's...
Starting point is 00:55:23 I think only to that degree, I vote against it because she's incredible. She's an amazing person, yes. Yeah. 100 more. I mean, not saying nobody dies, but, like, even in this... Like, one of the first things you see, like, after A-Train is Elizabeth Shue, whose character died and what season... Season, season...
Starting point is 00:55:38 Ended season one, skiing season two. And, like, she had, like, a little piece about ending racism. How they ended racism by bringing A-Train on to the seven. Oh, yeah, that's right. This is a post-racist world now. Post-racist world now. You know, that's a kind of biting, you know, commentary I like... from the boys.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah, which is so funny. They love A-Train in Gen V. I thought we were all supposed to hate him. Well, here's the thing,
Starting point is 00:56:00 but like the public perception of A-Train is amazing. That's true. Because you see the vending machines that have his drinks and I'm like, but that was the Pepsi commercial.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Don't we hate him for that? But I guess people love him for that in the world. But people love him for that. In the world. The boys world, like, you know, all these kids, they don't.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I forget. I completely forget that one. We're with Huey and butcher and these people who are like deeps. Those are terrorists. Like, in the world of the boys kind of yeah
Starting point is 00:56:25 I think for me so was Homelander Oh man Stay at Homelander I would love to see somebody watching like news footage of that ending Homelander rally Where he just liquidates that dude
Starting point is 00:56:38 Liquidates Liquidates liquidates Liquefize that dude And everybody cheers him on And then like half of the school population is like Yeah he did the right thing Liquidate still kind of works He sold all of his assets
Starting point is 00:56:49 He's so evaporates He evaporated all of his earnings. It'd be great if he just pointed at him. He's like, you're broke now. And then he goes and there's like his home is foreclosed. That's a super, that's a real superpower pointing out. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:57:05 So funny, bro. Liquidation, man. Just yeah, I'm sorry, man. We got to sell your house, your car. All your assets. Everything's foreclosed. Wait, all because I said no to Homeland. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:15 That's right. Stocks and bonds. Go on. Hey, no, check this out, right? I did this research. The first. definition is wind up the affairs of a company reformed by ascertaining liabilities and apportioning assets, right? That's the first definition. Definition number two, eliminate, typically by violent
Starting point is 00:57:34 means kill. You're absolutely right. Oh, wow. Absolutely right. Biweekly means twice a week and every other week. There you go. Okay, yeah, for me, I definitely want to see this mystery like all the way to the end. I want to see, you know, what happens with Luke's brother in there. Like, last we see is they've got the troops down there with Emma and his brother, and it's not looking good. But I'm interested to see, like, all of them come together. We obviously have to deal with, with Andre and Kim smashing his boy's girl after he died.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Very true, yes. We didn't talk about that, but that's kind of crazy, my boy. When you're in, like, a sad, sad space. I don't know. When you're in a sad space. When you're in a sad space. Sexy kid wrong. Let's do a little thought experiment.
Starting point is 00:58:21 here, you know, you blow yourself up in a fiery explosion, okay? You're, let's say, you know, you go, somehow make it a heaven. You and Peter got some deal. You can, like, see all your homies from up, up there. And then you see your closest friend go smash the person that you were in a, like, your relationship with or something like that. Me personally, I'm not going to let that slot. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I get it. But then when you're like in that emotional state, we're both, we're both very sad. I got bigger things to worry about if I'm in heaven. I mean, I'm not going to have sex with anyone after I see someone get exploded. Yeah. I'm not exactly a mood set or no. They're sad. They're sad and they found love at each other.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Hey, yo, Pete, my boy, send me back. Send me back. I need my leg back. No, I don't give a fuck. I'm going down right now. Did you see my leg back? You see this? Nah, you know, seeing what goes on with them.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And ultimately, seeing how they all come together as a group because I don't think they can solve this problem if they're beef. And I think we saw a little bit of the end of episode three where Jordan and, um, Marie, they're all at that table with the vodka, and they're like, having a conversation, the Ash comes in, it's like, oh, I messed up. And so, like, hopefully in the next episode and in the next few episodes,
Starting point is 00:59:29 they're like, yo, we have to work together to solve this thing. And they become like a little team. I hope to see that. But, uh, yeah, we'll see. I'm excited to see where it goes, man. I really, really enjoyed these first three episodes. I can't wait to see the rest of it. I think it's an exceptional premiere.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And I really don't think people should miss out on this because as great as the boys is, this could be just as good. Oh, I thought. watchable say better. I was like, I'm relaxed. A lot of game left. Too much dip on the chip right there.
Starting point is 00:59:56 The thing is we're comparing three episodes to something that's three seasons. Exactly. So as far as it starts concerned? That's my, I'm saying first season of the boys versus first season of this. I'm like, I'm not comparing. But I'm like,
Starting point is 01:00:08 this holds a tone. It holds its fucking. 1000%. And I love that. Yeah. If you, if you're worried about like, I hope people aren't worried about like the teen aspect of it all.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Like, no, it's great. Yeah, like don't let that. Don't let your teens watch this. Maybe. Don't let your tweens. You got to be 21 and over to watch this show, man. You got to be able to drink to forget.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Everyone on the show is like 28 plus. Keep it at the watching audience as well. All right. That's going to do it for us here on Mint Edition. We hope you've had fun. We have fun. We love this show. But don't forget, Monday.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Button Match is going to be back. Their discussion on all of the great things that are coming out in November. I hear cyberpunk's making a good scene. It's coming back. It's coming back. It's coming back. Idris Elba literally said the game is fixed. Idris Elba?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah. You didn't see that? It was like, the game is fixed. We're like, yeah. He's like, oh my God. Leo pointing meme. You said it. He said it.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And Tuesday night, Midnight Boys will return for the finale of Asoka. We're very excited. It's going to be coming to you late, but don't worry. Midnight Boys will be here. And Loki is coming very, very soon. Stay tuned for that. Jess. Jomi.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Love you. guys. Any parting words before we thank our super producer Kerm as always. Man, I'm not going to out of you, Kerm. Didn't think of a name for you this week. It's tough. You know what happens to the best of us? Actually, no, I got one.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Cool, cool, Kerm! Wow. Damn. I tried my best. They call him. They call him Kul Kul Kerm. As always, thank you to everybody listening. We love you guys, thank you for always rocking with the junior Mints. The Mint people, the band said.
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