The Ringer-Verse - Greatest Crash-Outs in MCU History, Plus NYCC News | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

The Boys are back, and they are crashing out. They start with reactions to some New York Comic Con news and then discuss the greatest crash-outs in MCU history, and—spoiler—Tony Stark is mentioned a lot. (0:00) Intro (11:01) New York Comic Con Nerd News (28:01) Greatest crash-outs in MCU history (1:18:50) Outro (1:19:56) Post-credits Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris and Jade Whaley Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is a good one. I think the midnight riders definitely called their mom. The midnight mob don't be at all. They got the energy of a mobbock who needs to talk to their mom. You didn't call your mom. You didn't say, hey, mom, what's up? How are you doing today? You didn't say none of that. Okay? You're out here watching your stuff, Moog and training, all of that. You know what? Your mom would be fucking amazed to hear from me. you as you send her a podcast you like, you guys can bond together. Like bond together over the midnight boy, send the pod to your mom. For real.

Come on, huh? Get on my nurse. Midnight moms? Midnight moms. Middhist. Midnight moms. Middeme. They're best villains of the century so far.

Damn. That's a big pot. Yeah. Big pot. Daniel Plainview? Got to have. Villan. Billing.

Got to have Homelander on there. Homelander? Yeah. Thanos. Dinos. Amni man. Omni man, for sure. I mean, can you put Darth Vader on there?

of the century? Yeah. You could. You said dark, you said dark. Whoa, no, no, no, no. I thought, no, no, no. I thought we was doing the 21st century. Right.

But, let me, he's in movies. He's in movies in the 21st centuries. Nah, but he's from like the fucking. I mean, origin. The point of origin was. Empire Strikes back. I thought we was doing from 2000 to 2025. Only, like, only, like, well, I mean, Thanos came out.

He'd been around? Yeah, yeah, but he wasn't popping. He wasn't popping. He wasn't popping like that. I can see what you see. The 21st century, you know what I'm saying. Like, we can't claim, like, my generation can't claim Darth Vader. Because I didn't, like, we, like, he wasn't, I wasn't there from the beginning.

He did have big moments, though. I don't know. I could see Darth Vader being in. I could see Darth Vader being out. Like, Joker's going to be in there. Yeah, because Joker's biggest moment arguably came during our era with Dark Night. You can't really say that. What?

Yeah, you can't say that. Whoa, whoa. After that, motherfuckers just started, they just started handing out Oscars to anybody who played the Joker. But you think about, but you think about it. The Joker made a billion dollars. I know, but you got to think about it. He was terrible, by the way. But the Joker has had a Joker in every era.

There was Caesar Romero Joker, huge crazy Joker. Then there was fucking Jack Nicholson Joker. The Joker been around. So you can't really pin the Joker down to one era. We can't, but his pen, like usually, what would you argue decade-wise is the pinnacle of the Joker? I would say this era. You know, I think it's a good argument. And you're probably right.

But by way, you're probably right because that nigga was going crazy. He was going crazy. Nuts. Shout out to him. Dude, man. Dog, they gave the Joker a second movie. Probably because he had that,

then he had the other movies. There have been three jokers. And then Harley Quinn was popping at the same time. But you did like this with Harley Quinn and it's like a win in the world. Stop. You said Harley. No, my goodness.

You spanked her. You spanked Harley. You got to watch on YouTube or you're not going to see what Charles did. You got watch on YouTube. But no, but what I'm saying is, I could see the argument. I can see your argument, being honest, but I could also see the argument that, like,

because think about it, you got all Anakin Skywalker lore, and that comes from the prequels, and that goes into Darth Vader. I don't know, but I can see the argument. But then my argument would be, Anakin would be 21st century villain, because before that,

we didn't really know that much about Anakin. Now most of the villainy is... I mean, you could, I mean, in that case, then you should go Palpatine of her villains. You know, but here's the thing. I say yes. But it's almost you run into the same problem. Palpatine is such a villain in Return of the Jedi.

Like, he gets a lot of burn. He gets burned, like, as in a basketball player that wouldn't start the game, but would play the whole fourth quarter. Like, in their prime pilot, like, a Jamal Crawford. Yeah, it wouldn't start the game. He got that, shout out to Jamal Crawford. Nice man, Great Hooper. And so, but then he got so much more burn.

It's a problem. It's an issue. He got so much. more burn in the prequels and all of that other stuff. Would you say like Maul, considering like, I mean, I know who he came out in 99, but then like all the cloned... Mall 21st, yeah. Mall 21st Century.

Yeah. Mall 21st Century because nobody, when Maul popped up in Phantom Menace, not enough people were even into legends to be like, hey, this character had this before and all that stuff like that. So Maul could be one. But I say they all make it, but I do see the point though. I do see the point that putting Darth Vader in there is kind of like, ah, the It's like, I had this nigga been around for it.

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He shoved! Yamamoto had the Brewers looking like a bunch of bitches. Next week, the Midnight Boys give you their instant reactions to the GenV season two finale. We'll come back with that show. And we'll do it And I'm loving JinV We don't have to do it if y'all don't want

I love I love you You're trying to get out of it You're trying to get out of it I love JimV I'm just saying You know It doesn't seem like we've had The right kind of dedication to JinV

Have we played JinV JimV's been good Not only do I not think so I just saw I was scrolling down because I'm like talking about GenV trying to try to get in touch with the people And some people are complaining Like damn people not tapping into

GenV was a mistake for them to drop near people I don't see the like, I don't see the groundswell of support from season one. It's a very, it's a very crowded space. And now that, like, we're kind of getting to end, it really makes sense to talk about it at the end. I introduce Jomey to Eric Kripke. Met Eric Kripke. Nice guy.

For real? We met some of the cast, too. Some of the cast for GnV was there. Yeah, we met the actors that play Sam that plays the male version, Andre's Dad. Oh, dude, big fan of yours. Yeah, we had a, we had a fun time. It was, it was so crazy. Where was this?

It was at, um, I had, there was a, they gave a talk for band books week. Mm-hmm. I've done several different things with the, the boys people and Eric Kripke, Eric Krike, great, great guy. And it was with a very important author named George Johnson, who was at the LA Library downtown. And we went there, me, Jomey and Kalika, and Jomey met Eric Kripke. Jomey gets so interesting. Jomey has totally changed, man.

I used to introduce Jomey to people back in the day. And Jomey, he was still kind of like in his shell. He'd be like, oh, hello, I love your stuff. Jomi, you meet Jomey, Eric Kripke. What's up, Eric, what's having? Jomey from the midnight boys, bitch. I didn't say that. Yo, the fame getting to Joan, he's moving different.

I didn't say that. You do look like you got a little money, you got a little, like, you move different. You bring somebody, like, I bring somebody up, and Jome would be like, man, I know them, man. Michelle Yo, whatever. Michelle, yo, that's my homegirl. Shout out, Michelle, yo. Michelle, yo, my homegirl is crazy. Were you at that party?

It's crazy. I was not. Why didn't you come to that party? I don't know why I didn't come to that party. Oh, you should have came to that bitch. Don't Tracy Ellis Ross was there. I did meet Tracy. Where did you meet Tracy?

I met Tracy at a different party that she was at with you guys. Which one was that? This was at, oh my God, what's his name's house? Lawrence. A producer friends of your... Bitch, that's the same party? That's the same party. She was.

She was. She was? I did not see her. I knew you were there. Like Michelle Yo showed up to that party. That's because you're not locked in like Joe. You're not locked in. I might have been locked in on other things.

Jomey was going, oh, there you goes. Jomey was over there talking to Michelle, yo, like, what's up? This is before the Oscar. Shout out to Michelle, yo. Right. Anyway, I don't know why all of that took so long. On today's show, we're doing the greatest crashouts in MCU history. Y'all, we had a lot of talk as Midnight Boys as how we were going to structure this show.

Yes. Essentially what we're doing, Charles will tell you right now. Yeah, so we're going to have four rounds. Each of us are going to bring a night. for the greatest crash out in MCU history, and we need to vote. So this is also, there's some strategy involved. You don't want to put two big crashouts in the same round,

you know what I'm saying? We've got to paste it out. So I tell you guys, there's a clear answer for number one to me, clear. But as I was looking over some of the greater crashouts in the MCU, people been crashing out. It's not as clear as I thought. It's not as clear as I thought. Because we all thought there was one crash out that would rule them all.

Yeah. But when I started looking over some of these crashouts, It's people that got whole crash-out movies. It's people that got so many different crash-outs that they're characters that all they do is crash-out. There's one character in particular that crashes out basically in every movie. I literally just put the character.

I was just like, there's one movie too. I was just like, every single time you show up, shit, get bad. People crashing out in the MCU a lot. People crash out a lot. A lot in the MCU. But before we get to that, should we get to some nerd news? Let's do it. This episode is brought to by WeatherTech.

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X-Men 97 season two is also returning. Apocalypse is our main baddie. We get to see some new costumes like the Grant Morrison Frank Quightly. X-Men shit looks super dope. Vision Quest. James Spader officially returning as Ultron, but he will be playing the human version of himself and all the AI characters that we've seen throughout the MCU

will also be playing humans. That's Friday, Edith, Jarvis, the whole lot. And then Tommy will also be back at speed. Then last, but certainly, or maybe least, we got the Wonder Man trailer officially. So my first question for you, Van, is coming out of New York Comic-Con, seeing all the hubbub,

2026, strong year, does it seem like it'll be a strong year for the MCU? Seems like, well, this will be a stronger year for the MCU. Because we do have Dooms Day as well. It'll be strong year.

And Spider-Man. And Spider-Man. It seems like it's going to be, and every year is the year, this year was the year. It seems like, yes, it seems like it's a strong year. Something I'll say about all of these shows.

Let's, let me go, I'm not going to take, I'm not going to be typically hyper-propos, but let me take all of these shows individually. X-Men 97 season two is a show that I'll be honest with you. Had there not been shake-ups at the top of X-Men 97 in the creative team,

it would have been a shoe-in that the show would be fantastic, right? Whatever the fuck y'all want to say, the show, the way it was constituted from the creative side and everything that happened with how they actually made the show in the first season, the show was fucking fantastic, it was perfect. Now you don't know if it will be because there are different people that are making the show.

I don't know. It seemed like season two was, they already had a lot of the story and the, depends on who you listen to. And once again, having the story is one thing. I don't, I'm not saying that X-Men 97,

season two is not going to be good. I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is, there's a little bit more curiosity around how the show is going to play out than there would have been if they were bringing a whole band back together. So Daredevil Born Again season two,

once again, there's so much intriguing questions about each one of these shows. That's what has me excited. I'm excited to see not just what happens on the screen, but like how they pull this together. Their devil's season, their devil board again season two seems to be now

them making the show that they wanted to make. Right. And the season of Frankenstein is over. Yeah. And now we get to see actually if there is a show there. Vision Quest, what a weird, quirky world.

What is Vision doing? What happened to Vision? I believe they are marketing it, or at least I've seen a lot of verbiage that is like, this is like the end of the Wanda Vision trilogy that started with Wanda Vision, then we got Agatha and now we got Vision Quest because I believe part of the story is White Vision still has all of the memories of our vision, but has none of the emotions. And I think that will definitely probably be if Wanda was Wanda Vision was a story that was centering Wanda's thoughts on childhood and romance.

I think this one is obviously vision doing the same. Very interesting. Very interesting premise. All right. And then you have Wonder Man, which the show in and of itself, I'll be honest with you. I can't really glum on to anything that makes me feel like, oh, my God, I have to see Wonder Man. However, the trailer that was released, I thought was a good trailer. The second one.

The second one. Yeah. I thought it gave us the sense of the tone of the show, but didn't really get too in the weeds on how they were going to incorporate the superhero stuff into the show. so you wonder what's happening going on. Was that supposed to come out in December, though, because... It was, it was. Wonder Man got pushed back to January, and I don't know if that's them saying, hey, we need more time for this to, like, bake in the oven.

They're also technically dumping the season. It's going to be all six episodes in once. Six, six or eight? I think it's eight. Well, it's going to be all episodes at once. Yeah. So, I mean, look, them sort of showing their hand on whether or not this stuff is they believe in it is one thing.

But in terms of me, I looked at that and I thought, that's interesting, interesting concede. So I think this is a strong television slate. Really? I do. No love for friendly neighborhood Spider-Man? I don't give a fuck about it. See, that's what I thought going in.

But they kind of pulled, they kind of show some. They got to put some together. It's not that the show is not, great, I know that the show is fine. I just don't, I can't. You can't get into the puckily little Spider-Man. It's what it is. That's fine.

Well, whoa, oh, oh, why don't you give it a chance? I did. I did. I did. I did. I watched it. I did like it. Yeah.

But I can't, I can't act like I'm excited for season two. I didn't watch it. Well, if I'm going to be honest, I think that that's the problem, not just with the MCU, but with a lot of this stuff where I'm like, oh, the first season, it feels like for a lot of these superhero shows, you can get a lot of that excitement. And now it's like X-Men 97, Daredevil Born Again, Vision Quest, all of these properties. It's like, how can we get those same viewers to be like, we want to continue this story? because it just seems like a lot of the stuff in our space,

I'm just like, that season, that season two is a hard leap. Well, I mean, for a lot of these seasons, like, I legitimately have actual questions. I think that there's two things that get me out to watch something. One is I'm super excited to see everything that's going to happen on screen, right? Supercats. Another thing is, Jesus Christ, what are they going to do? Like, what's going to happen?

Like, Vision Quest, what could that be about? I'm actually curious. There's excitement and there's curiosity. They're devil born again. Curious. X-Men 97, season two, I'm excited for that season, excited for it legitimately the first season was great to me. But then also, I'm just like, oh, what is the show going to look like? Yeah. I'm very interesting. I think my biggest curiosity really is Vision Quest because it seems to be that like we've kind of dug up what Paul Bettney's vision is. And I like, it's kind of one of the characters from the original like Avengers Ultron cast that I've really missed.

and I really wanted to see where he comes out at the end of all of these things because like the look of white vision is one thing but to know what white vision is going to be used. Yeah. You like white vision. Interesting. You didn't fucking color vision?

I'm with the white vision. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. That's what happens. But I'm excited about it. I mean, I also think the TV slate and the movies,

it does feel like next year is like the first year where they're getting into the new strategy, which is actually like the thing that I'm really. interested in, which is like Avengers Doomsday did not feel like their original plan. I think the new Spider-Man movie and how they are centering Tom Holland feels like a different version. Like I'm like, oh, you guys kind of know what you want to do. So what I'm interested in in the MCU is them being like, okay, we tried a bunch of stuff

that hasn't been working in the last five years. Daredevil Born Again, can we get it back to the quality that it was for a Netflix show? Vision Quest, can we get it back to the quality of Wanda Vision? It seems like they're like, I'm hoping that they've kind of learned from some of their like trips and mistakes and are now like, okay, we have a clear vision of like what we're capable of doing and the quality that we can deliver. I think I'm honestly like SMA 97 is probably the thing. I'm most excited for, but I'm really interested to see what Daredevil born again season two looks like. Again, they actually like are the people in charge. They get to make their own show for the first time.

So like I want to see what that looks like. also we're getting Jessica Jones. And who else? What defenders are going to show up? We're also getting the Punisher movie next year. Yeah, the Punisher Special Presentation. It's coming out next year. Yeah, man, we're going to be back, bro.

Netflix high. Stand up. Well, look. I don't know we're going to be back, but... Well, I'll say this is this. Disney Plus has never been as stale as it is right now. I went on Disney Plus. Just be honest with you, all the mouse people.

I went on Disney Plus yesterday. I was like, because, you know, as Yamo was throwing that game. Yeah. Just throwing the game. I was, I would get nervous. and I was scrolling through stuff. And I'm not even a Dodger fan like that. I like the Dodgers a lot.

I root for the home team. But when somebody's got a fucking gym going, you just keep waiting for that one inning where shit gonna get fucked up. And it just never happened. Never came. I went on Disney Plus. And there's no soul on Disney Plus right now.

Well, there is a soul. There's a show called Soul. Yeah, but that's a movie. And the Pixar. There's no, there's no, that was very plucky of you guys, too. There's no Disney Plus, when you go on Disney Plus and you look around, you can see the disarray. So you're saying it's content, not art? No, no, no, I'm not saying it all.

It's all art. But you can see the lack of, I mean, not everything on Disney Plus is art. There is some, hey, let's go behind the scenes of. the Imagineers and they worked really hard on that. Some people like that. Let's let's, you can just tell that there's a lot of stuff on there, but there's nothing on there that they are like,

when they first, Disney Plus first came out, it was like, these are the things you have to watch. These are things that you must watch. Now you can tell that there's just a lot of stuff on there, but nothing that's anchoring. I feel like I'm looking at a catalog rather than like an actual like living document of programming.

And so they need some shows on there to draw you back in and get you back to the point that you were with with it before. I mean, is do they or is it like is Disney Plus pivoting to a streaming service that is not like Netflix?

Like Netflix to your point is like when I go on Netflix I'm gonna find something. They go and put something up there where I'm just like, okay, I need to keep have Netflix. For me, when I go on, Disney Plus, I'm like, oh, this is for people with kids. Like, it's like, this is for someone who's watching, like, 20 seasons of Bluey

and, like, Pixar movies. That's not, but that doesn't, but, like, the point is, the why does somebody, people with kids, at whatever, you could, like, literally just run your kids off YouTube, right? You could do that. The question is, why do I have Disney Plus? Right. And it's, and it's not,

if Disney Plus is going to be for people with kids and all of that stuff like that, the, I think the thing that has to sort of merge, the two ideas that have to merge is the Disney Plus that existed during the content wars and like while the content wars was happening

and what it is now. While the content wars was happening, the reason why you went to Disney Plus is because the only place you could watch Star Wars and Marvel. They took it away everywhere else, only place you could watch it. Everybody pulled out their gun for the content wars and they actually all shot each other.

That's what happened. And Netflix one. Netflix won just because the catalog and the model, right? The question is, now that Disney Plus exists and they have all that other stuff and it's this and on there

and this on there I saw ESPN show on there all of that stuff is there any way for it still to exist for people that want to visit these worlds that want to be

in the Star Wars world is it still the home of Star Wars is it still the home of Marvel it's still the home of some of this other stuff that made it feel special when you will go on there because when I went on there yesterday I'm being for real

it just felt like a lot of shit it was different and maybe that's what they have to do maybe that's what Netflix does Netflix does it. But for Disney Plus, I think these shows are going to be important for them to reestablish that this is the home for your lore, your lore that you enjoy, your stuff that you enjoy. This is, you're going into the Star Wars thing there when you're going into the Marvel thing

there. I think it's, I think it's important for it. But I guess my question, have they figured out the business model of like if we take Star Wars where it's like, damn, we gave you Andor, we gave you Ackleight and we gave you skeleton crew, hundreds of millions of dollars. and or won the awards, one of my favorite shows of all time, but everybody involved is probably like,

oh, it wasn't the most popular thing that we've ever dropped. Do they trust, like our age, the people who go for Marvel and all these things to be like, damn, if we're going to spend $150, 200 million on the season of TV, are y'all going to show up?

Or is it going to be like, we are going to argue about, argue this into the ground, harass people, this isn't my Star Wars, this is my interview, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they're just like, What's your question? I understand a question.

They're going to make the stuff. Yeah, they'll keep doing it. But at the perfect example, like Mandalorian, they were just like, why the fuck we make another Mandalorian season? The Mandalorian means more to us. Right. As a TV show, similar to Marvel,

where it's like you don't see as many Marvel shows getting greenlit. It seems like they are very, very like, hey, we are downsizing what we're doing because you guys aren't showing up. Wonder Man is a perfect example. In the past, that would have been eight weeks. Like, we're giving y'all eight weeks of context.

Like, like, nope, just like Ironheart, we are dumping this. I'm wondering if they think that this is their, this is where you go for your lore anymore. Or do you go to the movie theater? I think it's possible. I'm guessing, like, what you're kind of hinting at is, like, kind of judging the success of these things on the small increments in which they're released. And then if that's not deemed successful by that streamer or that corporation or whatever, then are, is that. at like a measurable way of success? Is that what we're hinting out here?

I'm more so being like, why would Marvel keep making all of these TV shows? Like, why would they make, release four or five TV shows if we're not watching them? They might be like, no, we're giving you Daredevil. They got four coming out. Yeah. But all of these, but most of these were greenlit

kind of before all, like, before the strategy change in terms of just. Daredevil season two. Sure. Not like, 97, like they got, like, and by the way, These are shows people like also. Yeah. Like aside for Wonder Man, which we haven't seen yet,

and VisionCust we haven't seen yet, these are all like season two. They're all like coming back. These are shows that people like have engaged with and they found an audience. And I think if you're judging that success, is like what's going to keep us on Disney Plus? What's going to keep us on HBO Max?

To keep us subscribing. Once like House of the Dragon comes on, subscription numbers are going to go up. But what's going to be in that catalog that keeps us there after the fact that it's gone? I think that's what they're measuring that success. on. I mean, I'm not crazy. I agree with you. I also just think

that they're going to put the shows out. Yeah. And that's what's theoretically keeping us. You know, it's so funny. Andor is the one battle after another of Star Wars. It's just not for everybody. It's very serious. It is extremely elevated. It's fantastic.

Don't get me wrong. But it's just not for everyone. And the other shows, to your point, the other shows that they made that were kind of for everyone. They didn't meet the quality standard of Andor. I definitely think that in both places,

Star Wars and Marvel, there's a storytelling hole that they have to fill. But we don't have a Star Wars show. The only one I think that's on the board is Asoka Season 2. I know. But, I mean, that, you know, is, I mean, we're kind of getting off and doing the same thing again.

But, like, my thing with this is, is like, for Disney Plus to exist as a streaming service, for it to exist as a streaming service, to me, For somebody like me, they have to have this stuff in a way that's compelling. I have to feel like Netflix doesn't have to have it. I turn on Netflix.

There's so much shit on Netflix. Disney, the brand is limiting in terms of stuff that they could put on there. I turned on Netflix a couple of days ago, and Ed Gein was wearing somebody's fucking face. Yeah. On the main page. Wait, is that the one with Charlie Hunterman? Yeah. Yeah.

It was wearing somebody's face. I was like, oh shit, watch later. You're watching that later? I'm going to watch that bitch. Are you a murder documentary head now? Not really. Not really. But like when the shit comes out, I'm going to probably get into Ed Gain at some point.

I don't know why. Watch later. I watch that bitch later. And so, I don't know. I just think it's an important recalibration year for the MCU, particularly on television. I think the movies will make money. But 2026, to your point,

will be a really important television year. It just will. I don't know if Wonder Man, I don't know how we'll even cover Wonder Man. Well, maybe we'll have Yaya out on the podcast. That would be great. Yeah. Maybe we'll have Yayao on the podcast. All right, crashouts time, show.

All right. So a couple weeks ago, we were talking about the worst crashouts in fandom. So we decided to talk about the MCU. So before we start, this will be spoilers for everything past, present and future of the MCU. If you have not watched any of these movies

and want to yell at us, skip ahead. With that being said, we're going to have four rounds, okay? Each of us is going to present one of the greatest crashouts, and then a majority has to agree, and then we will move on. Round one, I'll start off. My first crashout nominee is Namor and the Mexican Atlanteans. In O'Connor, what? Namor came up and did a Kremlin and killed a queen.

He was crashing out. No, yeah, yeah. That's not a crash out? It's not a, it is crash up, but they can be Latino. Yeah. The Latino. You, Dr. Umar, that for sure. They were, they were Mexicans.

You called them underwater Mexicans. Underwater Mexicans is crazy. Look it up. You got your computer out. Look up what I thought they were Mexican. They weren't. They're Atlantic, they're models off of assets. Well, no, no, no.

But they were at the same things from. They were They were in the Mexican You know with Google See this is the shit that I'm talking about Go look up

Joe me Look up Where Atlanta's underwater Whatever Look up whether or not They were Mexican or not Why

Were the Atlantis and Wakata forever Mexican? Yeah like What's wrong with this What's the problem If I'm wrong Correct me

Yeah like what's Were they not I thought They were supposed to be A part of Mexican culture Jomey Explain it

No, the mythical Atlanteans were not from Mexico Okay, this is This is This is whatever AI, I think AI, don't listen to that For my understanding

They were modeled off of Aztecs But like they are technically Atlantis Okay, okay guys, you know what They weren't Okay They were not trying to be disrespectful

Bumpy Road at the start We were not trying to be disrespectful So you said You felt like they crashed out I thought like Nammore crashed out Because, you know, the Wakandans were trying to break bread and whatever. And he was just running up in their crib. Fucking Mbaku got hitting his fucking chest for no reason.

He flooded the whole city. I'm going to stay in the Black Panther universe then. I'm going to stay, but I'm going to go to the original Black Panther. Killmongers crash out before he completely fucked over Tachala. I killed people. I killed my own people. Oh, when they were one of you wanting? I rock.

That was a crash out. Is this your king? Like, is this your king? Like, that whole thing was an emotional crashout. I killed my own people. He had the little things all over him. I rock. What did great line delivery?

I love Michael B. Jordan. He did a great job as Kilmonger. Yeah. Was there ever like, damn, Michael a little bit too nice? Like, it's like sometimes when I watch Kilmonger now, I'm just like, I just remember, you know, the wire, Friday Night Light. See, that's the thing that they did. They flipped it on us.

When we first meet him, he got the glasses on, and he's talking to the lady. He got the black video game. He got the black video game hair. And then all of a sudden, in that scene, he just turned it up. Nah, it's from Wakanda. It's made a vibranium. I'm going to take it off your hands, though. It's not for sale.

It's not for sale. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm not going to buy it. I'm not going to buy it. You think your ancestors is paid a fair price? You think your ancestors, you think they play the bad price? And then that's when that's what we have to define what a crash out is, though. Because is it a crash out if it's justified?

They killed his pops. Well, there's been. He's trying to free his people. I mean, the Talekon, Atlanteans, they had a point. They're sick of the bullshit. They came down there and they came down there and they was taking the, they was taking the vibrania? Like the made the whole machine, they're sick of the bullshit. They're like, hey, don't

fuck with the vibrania. Leave us alone. Leave us alone. Leave us alone. Most of the crashouts that I was able to come up with, like, a lot of them are justified now. Yeah. Okay. I can't think. I got a justified one. Give it to us. All right. From Guardians to, are you like this?

From Guardians to when Ego and Peter are talking, like, for the final time, and Ego is like, yeah, it hurt me when I had to put that tumor in your mom's head. That's a crash on Peter. What? Star Lord gets some crazy.

That's how we loaded the clip into pops. Yeah. That's a, that's a justify crash out on every level. That's a crash out. I forgot about that one. I would crash out on, oh, on what's the name? On Michael Rooker, too. Because he was giving away those kids to ego.

Peter spent a lot of time crashing out. Here's the thing, Peter really never stood a chance. He's one of them white boys you had at your school where you just, like, you learn about his like background and shit, you're like, damn, we gotta show him some love. It's crazy that you're not in jail right now. Yeah. You can put our arm around. See, people, I always, I had the eye on that.

People will always be like, they walk by, they see the kids playing the magic cards, they kick the magic cards. I'd be like, hey, lead them alone. Pick up the magic cards, give them back to them, because I knew what these niggas was capable up. I will say. Even before, like, even before I knew what. You know what got me?

You know what got me? And this is going to get dark. But what got me was Pearl Jam Jeremy. Pearl Jam, Jeremy. The song, Jeremy. Oh, yeah, that's a very dark song. The song Jeremy. And then I always was looking for Jeremy in class.

I was always looking for Jeremy. And Jeremy only did it to himself. But I didn't want to have to go through that. Right. So, like, I always was looking for Jeremy. I was like, is this nigga of Jeremy? See, but Van, are you acting out of self-preservation? or did you actually care about it?

It's both. A little bit of both. I was a snitch. I remember I was in middle school was and a kid was awesome. Yeah, you know, you might not want to come to school. I went to talk. You know what? No, no, no, no, no.

Black on the plate. Black on the plate. Hey, right, right, right, right. Hey. You're not going to believe what I just heard. Unnecessary realness. Unnecessary real. Bands outside the office.

Hey. Musum McGillically, let me in. You're not going to believe it. A, fourth period. Chemistry. Just come in there, man. You see the haircut. Right away.

Right away. Steve, crash out. Okay, I'll let the panel decide whether or not this was reasonable or unreasonable. But I kind of wanted to get as dark as soon as I can. And I was going to pick John Walker from Falcon and Winter Soldier. Yeah. It's a good one. It's really rough.

But, like, I'm not going to say that this was justified. Which one? And when he hits the guy with the fucking shield. Yeah. No, that's not just to. It's not just a... No, no. No, no.

It's not just a... It doesn't need to justify. I mean, Roy... No, it was not justified. I'm more so saying it's like, do we judge the crash out a little bit? That nigger was already crazy. Yeah.

He was already. Like, some was awful by him already. No, no. But the serum was... This is true, but we've learned they'd be fucking with the Super Soldier Sherim. And if you're not, Steve Rogers, if you Bruce Banner, if you walker,

there's a bad, but there's a bad, but there's a bad. But, But it's actually not a bad point. I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying, though, he only took the Super Soldier serum because he was already fucked up in the brain. True.

He wanted to. He gave him the mantle of Captain America. And that's why. He was already, like, freaking out. And then he took the Super Soldier serum so people would have to feel him. But that's definitely a huge. But it's so crazy to think of all of that, that that's the same John Walker that we see in Thunderbolts to think that he's even remotely well adjusted after that fact. Because he's-

Marvel rehabilitate his white boys. Yeah. I mean, yeah. But like... You can't do wrong enough. Yeah, I love this in these fucking... I love this. I've been really into Star Wars lore once again.

And, man, when you put all of the feats of evil of Darth Vader together, it's no redemption, bro. No, absolutely not. Bro, like, when you look at it, fuck what you saw in the movies, because that's not that bad, actually. No, compared to the whole catalog? What you saw in the movie... No longer about it. That's bad. But like, that's the thing, you can't redeem Darth Vader, but can you redeem Anakin?

No, you did too much. Stop. Let him cook. You did too much. That too way. He was the same person. Even Obi-Wan was like, uh, Darth Vader, he killed your father. They're not really the same person for real.

Can I say something? That's not, that's a lie. My friend is truly dead. Obi-Wan walks away. Can I say something? Is Anakin Darth Vader? Anakin was always going this right. He is Jeremy.

He had feet in the clone wars. He was saving motherfuckers. He was. You guys, Anakin murdered. He committed to genocide. He was true. Caustless piece is true. A couple times.

Anakin, and then the mortis gods. Yeah. All of that stuff. Anakin was never right. He saw the low, the low battle was. Yeah. And like, it was always going to happen. They should have left him in the sand before when he was there.

But it's like. It was always, and look, he was a great as far as it came down, because this is my next crash out, actually, if we can get to it. Okay. Dude, I got to vote. Well, let's vote because I already think the top two, probably killmonger and ego. The kid, the, the, the, that crash out, that's a good call. But I got to go with killmonger just because it's like, like, when we think about,

because the MCU has pretty trash villains, but what we talk about like, dude, who are the best villains is because. It wasn't good one. He spent the whole movie crashing out. Hey, hey, here's the thing. This is how I knew, like, Kugler and them had one. Because, y'all, black people was getting down to have movie theater. Like, they did. Killmonger 30.

Oh, they was, hashtag Kilmonger was right. Yeah. That's how you know the crash out was successful. They're like, bro, we got to support my man. Yeah. And he kept it real to the end, too. He did. Yeah.

He kept on the Killmonger, bro. Killmonger crash out? Gilmonger crash out. Gilmonger's good. Round one. All right, second round. All right, second round. I got to go

Tony Stark in game the beginning Skinny Tony Skinny Tony Skinny Tony Colin Capo liar Skinny Tony

I got nothing for you Liar like like he's like like that whole thing I thought they was going to nominate Robert Donnie Jr. for the Academy Award

I thought he was putting it on that whole thing was like that didn't fight because he's unbeatable he's like like Avengers with the pre-envengers

it's like because anything We do our best work after the fact. He loose that cap and he goes, he's like, Capp says, he's like, no, I needed you as in past tense. As in past tense. I told you we lose. He said, we'll do that together too.

Like, he just really gave it to Capp. And you weren't there. Why? You put this on. And then he literally crashes out. He literally falls. Yeah. Like, he literally, he crashes.

When you first saw that, did you half for a second thought that he was like going to die or something? I didn't think he was going to die. But I was like, what? It was, Tony was so vulnerable at that point. Yeah. I did think that the rest of the movie was going to be Tony dealing with some huge, huge mental hurdle that he had to jump. Because he's always kind of dealt with that. But obviously they didn't do that.

His family came and brought him back to center. But that was a crash out. Yeah, it was incredible. Here's the thing. I'm going to stay in the Iron Man. Okay, this is going to be the Tony Round. There's going to be the Iron Round. He got a war.

He got to do the Tony Round. Iron Man. When he saw a winter soldier, yeah, killed his man. He was like, he's like, dog, fuck the Avengers for Cap for all you all. He killed my mom. Kill my mom, I need the ones. Yeah, bro, that whole movie was the greatest crashing.

So here's the thing about that. I was sure we talked about this on multiple podcasts, but I just want to say it again. No matter what team you want, team Iron Man, T-Cap, with the Skokovia Accords, it really don't matter. What really matter is who size you want when it comes time for that fade. And for me, 10 toes. I'm team Iron Man. What you're not going to do is kill my moms and not let me get the ones with the guy who did.

Brainwash. Brainwash. Brain wash. I don't. I don't. I don't believe in this, bro. I don't care. Y'all sound like Patty Hurst defenders.

This is all right. It's like I don't, I don't believe in this. I don't believe in this. Believe in what? I don't believe in. I don't believe in the brainwash. This is the only thing that tears holy. He was winter soldier.

What are we talking? That was the whole thing. Brow. I don't believe in it. You. you gotta get this fucking fade, you killed my fucking mom,

this pisses me off because this is the only thing that team Tony people have to stand on because Steve fucked up not telling Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

because if you, you gotta piss me off. He killed his mother. I understand that. Well, he was a asset to a Russian government and indeed. My fault, my bad, my bad, I didn't know you was brainwashed.

You kept my parents. I'm gonna let that slot. Yeah, you're good. Yeah, you do. I'm a family squad. It's my fault. It's my fault. I apologize.

I'm, I apologize. I apologize. I apologize. Let me get this clear. Let me get my parents. It's all beat. You know what? So this is the Iron Man round.

Iron Mayor already fucking crashes out, creates one of the worst fucking villains in Ultron fucking crashing out. Then instead of war, he's like, you know what the world actually needs? Us to fucking arrest the goddamn Avengers. Like he continuously... You guys, I'm not defending Iron Man. By the way, if you told me right now, that somebody should come kick Iron Man

and his nuts for the Ultron thing? I would be like, yes. I would also say that maybe he had a point. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, no. Wait, what? Totally he'd be in jail. Because he said it, because he said it, in game, he was like,

I told you we needed a suit of armor around the world. You guys said, no. Iron Man fucks up a lot. I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not even going to cape for him. The Socorian Accords, all that stuff. Team Cat. That's not what we're at.

That's not what we're talking about. That's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about that. If you want to say to Iron Man, act like a bitch where the Socorri records, cool. That's cool.

What I'm talking about is your boy kill my parents. Get the fuck out the way. Your brain wash, so I can't, I don't give a fuck out at least.

Give a fuck out of the way you gotta say to watch. If I'm going to kill him, then you might step in like, hey man, don't kill my boy. But try at least let me get this family. Wait, so Ironman,

he killed your boy and then he killed like a hundred niggas and he was just killing up shield. Shoot. All right, first of all, first of all, first of all, if I'm going to be real, you know, if we're just thinking if I'm putting on the tinfoil hat, maybe Winter Soldier did the world a favor, you know,

fucking Howard Stark was out here, fucking at weapons manufacturer. Maybe he needed to get God. You know what I mean? This is not serious, babe. What? This is completely a safe, maybe. Wait, whoa, Tony wasn't creating weapons and shipping him all across the world. Maybe the Stark family needed to get got.

Winter Soldier killed dozens of people, hundreds, hundreds of people. Hundreds of people. Yeah, yeah, how many, how are the money on the start? When the soldiers have been killing since 45. So Tony deserved it because he'd been killing people, but Winter Soldier don't do it because I'm just saying he was in a-washed. Oh, no, that's cool. The mother, is she innocent?

Hey, honestly, that's all blood money. You know what you're going into. That's all. You signed up. No, no, no, no, no, no. Here's a deal. Here's a deal. Let's say I grant you that.

Let's say I grant you that. Let's say I grant you that they had blood on their hands. Okay, let's get some more blood. Get out the way. Let's have what you. Get out of the way. Get out my way, Cap. Like, I don't see how they got over again.

Wait, but Tony. But you're talking about Cap crazy bell. He didn't tell Tony that's supposed to be his mess that his homeboy slined out his parents. Is the only thing Steve fucked up with? That's fair. Wait, so... The only thing? What the fuck? This is insane dick right.

This is insane dick right. Yeah, yeah, you're glazing this dick. This is crazy. You glazing, bro. Because, like, that's the only thing that he fucked up with. What else do you fuck up with? His friend went on a brutal murderous rampage. Trying to stop him.

People are trying to catch him and cap at every season. He's my friend. You know who, you know, this is Falcon's greatest moment. Because Falcon is like, hey, I don't know. Just to let you know. We'll slow this down. Maybe you should let them catch this guy because this guy is dangerous. He's like, he'd do the same for me.

What if he's not the guy where you stop? He do the same for me, 1945 maybe, even when they're in the thing and his arm is in the deal. And he's like, you used to put newspapers in your shoes. Falcon goes, yo, so we could now. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What is going on? Should Tony have just been like the cap like, hey, yo, this is a one thing.

This is a 1V1. Do not step in. Yeah. Just don't step in. And then watch Tony. Fuck over Winter Soldier. Rip his arm off, throw it into the lake. Fucking

handcuff him. Actually, that's not what he was going to kill. He was going to kill him. He was going to kill him. He was going to kill him. He was going to kill him. If Tony promised, hey, I'm not going to kill him, but I'm going to beat the shit out of him.

If I was Cap, I'd be like, all right. You get five minutes. If Cap just, like, stood there and was like, all right, you got. You gotta get your ones. And then Tony was going too far. Then you got to go. Don't kill him.

Don't kill my boy. This is like, Cap don't even wait. He's like, fuck you. But look, it's crazy. I've been real with you. I fuck with it. You know what I mean?

It's not like I don't understand it. Don't act like you all have boys who are exactly like that. Like, I remember we was in New Orleans one time. See, no, never mind. No, no, no, no. You're going to get in trouble? No, no, no, no. You go get in trouble.

No, because if I tell, if I start telling stories like that, that everybody going to think that I'm a dangerous, violent, whatever. So, no, no, we can't. The BGA Bros. We can't. We can't. We can't tell that one. All right.

So it seems like we do, for this round, we do have the big ones. Which one is it, Iron Man and Civil War? There, well, there's some smaller ones. Which one did you? I had, like, a majority of Iron Man 3 being a crash out. He does crash out a lot. What was the biggest? He dockses himself because he wants to fight a terrorist.

That's a crash out. And he throws the reporter's phone. That's a crash out. That's a good one. Steve, you're doing good. That's a crash out. He gives his address. To the people.

I know what I love about that movie? He put his address out there, and them niggas went, okay. Okay. Here comes missiles in 20 minutes. They went, what the fuck you thought you was going to? We're going to blow you up. You thought you just going, who the fuck you think you are? You think you are Cal L of the pregnant?

And he goes, he goes, here's my address to you. Like the next scene. Yeah. Like literally, they didn't wait. It's like, all right. We'll come fuck over you, right at your crib. There's also the one from Homecoming when he's talking to Peter after the fight on the boat. And he is giving Peter the business.

He was like, ah, no, the adults are talking about. This is where you listen. That's not crash out. Pete deserved it. Yeah, Pete deserved that. It's justified. You can crash out and have it. I don't know if that's a crash out.

I was done out of crash out. Because he kind of like just talking to him. That's like a coach out. You're like coach. Coach out. Oh, no, coach is crash out. I don't know. No, I think, I'll be like, that's.

I think if I'm going to agree with Van about his spighty thoughts on Tom Holland, that's really the problem with the younger generation. They don't want to be coached. Like, Tony was trying to coach him and you think it's a crash out because he's raising his voice. And I'm like, motherfucker, are you about to get people killed? I feel like a coaching out. Like, he talked to, like, remember, I feel like a coaching guy would be the first. Like, the guy from Arizona from the finals.

No, he went great. Like, at first, because I saw that. So, Gannon, Coach Gannon of the Cardinals, a couple weeks ago, a player dropped the football before he crossed the plane. Oh, right. So it was a turnover. And so he went to him on the timeline and was putting his hands out on, and was yelling, was gone crazy.

He got fined $100,000 by the organization. Right? And at first he was like, hey, that's a lot of money. He's not that bad. Watch video. Don't touch. They're a lot. Don't touch him.

It's too far. I'm a grown man. I would feel like the coach out, if that's the term we want to use, would be when he pulls him from the water after the first fight with the vulture. He's like, yo, if Cap want to lay you out, you would, bro. Chill out. I got this. Don't worry about it.

Then after the ferry scene, he just goes below. He's like, you're not even in that suit. And then he comes out, he's like, hey, dog, this is your dose are talking. I told you, I had it, I had it. Stop it. I'm taking the suit away. Well, that's also, don't hit me.

He almost got people killed. Yeah. And I think that he was still reasonable in pretty much all the exesuit. I think the softer definition of crashout that we're going is that like, you kind of go a little too far, debatable, but there's like a level of extremity and control that you don't have in a crash out. Yeah, you, I'm saying, Tony was still restrained when he was yelling at Spider-Man. Okay, so the Tony Stark was.

We also, we left some crash outs on the board. For Tony, we're still working. He'd be crashing out. So Tony. Tony's Civil War is the great, it's the P. It's like, we still arguing about that shit today. It's between Civil War and endgame, and I'm going to relent. Civil War.

It's Civil War. It's probably, you know, like, the biggest MCU crashout, at least, like, for me. Possibly ever. While we're in this corner, so we're going to pick for round two. We're going to pick basically Tony and all Civil War for round three. I don't know if you guys went here, but I'm, I kind of want to,

even if this is a bonus round, I want to just clear out for Scarlet Witch because crash out. Every single, I was just like, it's almost, which one is she,

she starts crashing out and she starts crashing out. Al-Fron, kind of. No, I'm going to give her Wanda Vision. Wanda Vision is a gigantic crash-out. The whole thing's crash out.

But which part, here's a thing. Her taking over the entire town. It's a crash-out. That's a crash-off. It's a crash- It's irredeemable. But she is, but she is like, she's crashing out and she's so powerful

that her crash out creates like almost another world. Yeah. Yeah. And which, like, even comic book accurate, House of M. Yeah. No more mutants. Gigantic crash out. Creates a whole new reality.

Whole thing happens, right? Crashes out. But then the multiverse of madness. No, man. It's rough. Nah, that's different. Say full fucking. I've lost.

Full till. I'm fucking mind. Too much grief. Too much guilt. Too much. emotional bore constricting right there being squaws, and she crashes out the whole fucking movie. Jesus.

Crashes out the whole movie. Just, just... But what if we're talking about the worst... The worst Scarlet Witch crash out, though. Like, what is the one act where you're just like... Killing the Illamani? She was going to kill America, Travis. She was going to kill a child.

She was going to kill that child. She was going to kill that child. She was going to kill America. That was the whole point. That was always. She had to kill her. Yeah. It's a crash out.

Elimnadi doesn't count because they not. I feel like interdimensional murder don't count. Unless it doesn't count unless a senior dimension is crazy. She don't know that. That's not my name, but you don't know. That's not my galaxy. You know, she cut it, Captain Carter in half. Cutter in half.

String cheese. It's fantastic. Black Bolt blew his fucking head up. She was an idiot. She snapped Professor X's neck. She was going crazy. That's a crash out. She was going crazy.

All of Wanda and multiverse of madness is a crash. I still think Wanda Vision is worse. What is the book? Because she was torturing normal people. You know, superheroes you like this part of the job. Yeah, but they survived. You know, they made it out. Yeah, but forever, they fucked up. They got to sell their house.

Nobody wants to lit. Like, think about the property value in what you call. Yeah. Yeah, like, you got to leave in. Yeah, you got to move that. Yeah, I'll have to leave. I'm like a boyish. Yeah, you got to move out. Yeah, I'm out. I'm done. It was crazy that they were still living there when Agatha was over there. The whole town was still there. What's up? I mean, listen, maybe like post-blip, you know, the prices of land skyrocket. You can't afford to a little. This is back to the, like, the Post-AVendors New York property value discussion where it's just like, Like, do you stay in New York after Avengers when happens?

Are there other crashouts by Lady Marvel characters that we're mentioning? Trying to think. Other ladies. On the scale of Scarlet Witch is pretty hard. Probably not, right? Oh, you know who? Black Widow went out sad. Black Widow crash out?

For Endgame? Yeah, not crash out. I'm like, you didn't have to die, girl. Of course that. You didn't have to. I don't know if that's a crash out. That was her being a road. That was a little soft.

was a little sages. Yeah, she was saving hot guy. The University's black widow more than he's hockey. That was, you was saji right there. Wait, what? Why? Because she shouldn't have sacrificed her... You called her... You called the heroism of a woman to crash out. Dying for a white man is crazy. That's a... She is white niggins. Scarlett Johansson?

No, she's... Scarlet Johans. But you expect her to be woke about it? She's white. Wait, Gamoire and Nebula definitely have to have a crash out. Oh, yeah. Nebula. Nebula crash.

Nebula crash. Okay, what else we got this round? I'm trying to think, oh, speaking of, I mean, this is not a Scarlet Witch specific round. Hawkeye endgame. Oh, yeah. Family's gone. He spent five years. Broan it?

Yeah. He's killing all gangs and all that. That's all that. Way, way, way, way, way, way, bro. He spent five years. I'm gonna be real. that could be number one, bro. It's up there.

That could be number one. So we, we, that, that is a great call. It's only because you don't actually see the full scale damage, but you only hear about it.

Well, you see it twice. You see him kill up the yakuza. And then you see him, you see it in a little bit of Hawkaxia. Yeah, but Rody's just basically like, yeah,

man, he's lost. And that's the funny thing about it. Funny thing about it was Rodi is talking to Black Widow and he goes, you know, clean up a bunch of people that's down to Mexico.

And Black Widow could be a rival Kane. He's like, except it's not. Definitely Clint. It's definitely Barton. Like, what do you want to do? Didn't have a chance to get that guns on.

Yeah, didn't he's killing. And then, but you know what I like about the crash out of Hawkeye as Ronan? It just showed you once again how deadly Hawkeye is. Yes. Because sometimes, you know. Played out. You know, Hawkeye is a master assassin. Yeah.

And he really pulled a last samurai on the brothers in Japan, meaning he was a white guy. He was better with the sword. Stop. He was better with the sword in him. But also, do you look like, if I'm some of the people of color and the Avengers, I'm looking, I'm looking at Hawkeye Crazy be like, Hey, yo, so when you crash out, you go, you go kill, you know, the Yakuza and the brown people? Like, you can't, you can't go to middle America and, like, and clean up some shit. This is my thing.

I'm sure that's where he started. With us, nah, nigh, nah, nigger. He can do a lot of five years. Assassin's Creed KKK. Right. Right. Like, you like, they need to go back in time. No, no, it's plenty of people.

Like, because here's the thing, John Wick. John Wick was killing the Russians and all that while he was killing these people. Hey, bro. John Wick, I got to be honest with you. I mentioned that to Kalika, and it blew Kalika's mind. I was like, you know what I like about John Wick? You can white people? John Wick, he cleans his own house. He doesn't go to South Central.

He doesn't go into the game. Maybe in two, he got to brought it. He brought that to the streets. No, it was, I'm not saying he never, he never. But he starts in his own walkout. I mean, him and comment, but John Wick cleans his own house first. Yeah. You know, John Wick didn't say, it's like, I got to go and clean up the streets of

South Side Chicago. John Wick is killing people in fancy cars and doing like, he takes care of his own shit. Yeah. Shout out to him. The white boys are always on some taxi driver's shit. When they want to like, when they want to break bad, it's always like, Where the black and brown people? Yeah, but not John Wick.

If you had an Eastern block accent, John Wick was fucking dead. I'm like, yeah, man, fucking right. I remember watching this thing. Hold on for a second. I remember watching this back in the day, and y'all can find this. This is actually true. Rumbling the Bronx was coming out. And Rumbling the Bronx was coming out.

And there was this interview with Jackie Chan. It might have been on MTV or somewhere else. And, you know, they were talking about Rumbling the Bronx. you know, the movie was just mindless action or whatever. And they asked Jackie Chan, they were like, is there anything more to these films other than just the action? Is there any type of messaging?

Is there any thematic content in the movie that might be useful? Jackie Chan, I remember watching this, looking around and people going, did y'all hear what he just said? Jackie Chan said in this interview, this is not me trying to get Jackie Chan canceled. I'm just saying it. He goes, well, something is good about my movies.

When you look at my movies, you just don't see black gangs. is more than just black gang I promise you he's like it's more than just black gangs that you see it's more than just black gangs that you see in my movie

I remember watching that I was like what that mean what are you what do you what that mean it's more than just black gang so you're you're changing the narrative

by like you'll just see black gangs in my movies that was his contribution now I think about it and maybe it was progressive I mean well I think

because yeah it's not just It's not just negatively, like, something like, all the gangs are all black. It's all Negroes that being gang. Jackie Chan was like, I beat up more people than just black people in my movies. Exactly.

Of all colors, all races. Everything else you see, you'll just see black gangs and my shit. Exactly. I think I just changed. I think maybe I fuck with it now, Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan, I get what you a shout-out. Maybe it's a lost some translation. I don't know.

So Scarlett. Rock-I who's taking it. Well, he's got one. No, I thought yours was Hawkeye. No, that was yours. He is. My round in that one, like, if the non, because you took mine for the multiverse of madness one.

But for that, it was the more specific one of her, like, making that reality in that one episode of Wanda Vision that I had. But if we want to lump in basically all of WandaVision as a crash out, yeah. Her crashout era. Yeah,

then I would go with that. She's the great, I think she's the king of crashouts in the MCU, being honest. But Hawkeye really is, like, he was putting in years. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.

I thought that this was going to be, I thought we were putting Scarlet Witch's name in the rafters here. But if you think about it, it is Hawkeye, bro. We could do Hawkeye? Hawkeye became a serial killer. Yeah, he did. And I do have to say, Hawkeye became a serial killer,

and he didn't even have powers. That's how you know, like, he was in the gym. Like, he just picked up a guitar, and he's like, don't worry about it. He was the first one in, last one out, real lunch pill type of guy, you know what I'm saying? Let's do Hawkeye. Let's see it.

Serenial. Once again, though, I'll just, I'll just say it again. Hawkeye kill 50 people, 100 people, 200 people, whatever the fuck it is. One conversation with Black Widow, it's all good.

We never go back to it. We'll get back to it in the Hawkeye's show. Kind of. Kind of. She put the suit on and like he got... Here's the thing. He didn't do no time. He was taking his kids to a Broadway show.

That's so funny. Because here's a thing. This is what is really fucked about that. Disney Plus. era of like, Hawkeye kills 100 people he can live happily

forever after with his family. You know, Anthony Mackey can't even get a fucking loan. Can't get a loan. From the bank. It's different levels to this shit. Hawkeye guy going to Broadway shows. Anthony Mackey can't get a ball.

They was going to go see Rogers' musical. Rogers' musical. He went to go see it with his family. Crazy. I'm just saying it's crazy. That's crazy. All right, next round. All right, this is the last round.

I've been saving this one for last. It's probably my favorite crash out. Man, Peter Quill. Gotta do it. Peter Quill Infinity Games is tough. Yeah. I will say it is the one choice that I think almost makes that character irredeable. Whereas he's so dumb and so stupid.

Right. I can't look at him serious. This is the biggest crash out in the MCU history. It is. Like, only because of the cost. Because of the cost. Yeah, nigga. He crashed out.

And the galaxy is good. And he ruined the whole universe. Yeah. You come on, bro. Like, it is so. I got to throw him some bail. I have to throw him the slightest bit of bail because Dr. Strange says this. After 14 billion times he's seen it, the only way it goes, the only way it works is if that happens.

Like, that has to happen in order for them to succeed. You're shaking head, but that's what he said. Well, to be fair, like, he looked at all the timelines and was like, the one that we're on is the right one. No, that's one. So technically everything had to happen. What the fuck are you talking about? That's not what he said. That's not what he said.

He said, there's one. Actually, I don't know. Maybe that is what he said. Yeah, the calamity of every single choice and every single action that comes into this timeline. Well, Zach Strange wasn't predicting that they would win. No, he was saying, he was saying that there's one version of it where they come out on top. Right. And that, like, that has happened, which is.

I don't know that he said that that had to happen. What do you mean? There's those. I thought he was a loser. to the fact that Tony had to sacrifice himself in endgame. Right, but that only happens if they lose in Infinity War. But here's the thing. Peter and Em were already going to lose is how he went out.

It's how many... I'm just what I'm saying. They lose before. So he was destined to be a crashout. He was destined to be a crashout. I'm not saying it's not a crashout. I'm not saying it's not the biggest crash out. All I'm saying is, like, we throw him a lot of slack for something that ultimately

he had to do in order for the universe to get saved at the end of the day. He went out like a sucker. He went out like a sucker. But he had to go. fall like a sucker. Well, but, so this is the logic break that I'm having and people can see in real time when I'm not smart enough to understand something. So there's 14 million scenarios. 14 billion or million? Is it a billion or million? 14 million. 14 billion scenarios, whatever it is. They only win in one. Yeah. So that means that there are other scenarios where

that might have happened where Peter Quill might have done. 14 million, sorry. 14 million. There are other scenarios where Peter Quill might have done that. And they still lost. Yes. So what are you talking about? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's 14 million to one where it all, like, they bring everybody back. And like the ending of endgame happens.

Yeah. Right, where the only person who like really does is Iron Man. Yeah, but there are like a trillion things that happen in between Star Lord crashing out and Tony sacrificing himself. Guys, you got you, you're overthinking it. The things have to happen in that order for end. game to happen, right? Everything happens, we're all happy. Everybody comes back except for Tony.

But you don't know that. What are you talking about? You don't know what had to happen. Other than what exactly... I'm going to break this mic. It's 14 million to one. You did break it. There's only one...

Can I nominate... Where it happens? This is a crash out. What are you talking about? What am I doing? What am I hearing? Jomi's crash out. Jomi, listen to what I'm saying and just...

And tell me if it holds any water, okay? No, it doesn't. The movie tells you these things have to happen in order for the ending of ending in the happen. If they don't happen to that order, it doesn't work. What the fuck are we talking about? What the fuck are we talking about? Jomi, Jomi, Jomi, what are you talking about? Which things?

Like, he asked which things have to happen. Like, we don't know. They have Thanos on the ropes. Right? There's no indication that that has to happen. Peter, there's no indication that that has to happen. I'm just saying, am I wrong? Am I wrong?

There's no indication. I don't understand. I don't understand. This is the greatest episode. Jalmy! Come back. Joe! Come back.

I'm losing my mind. I really don't know. I'm asking. I'm losing. my mark. He's trying to understand you. I'm asking. Which things Okay, hold on. Okay, real calm. Real calm. Which things

which things. He gives Thanos the time stone. Yes. Right. Because in order for it all to work out, Thanos has to win. Which means Peter has to sell. Right? If Peter doesn't sell, but he doesn't have to do it in that way. That way.

Maybe something happens in a different way. But it's again, They don't win if Damos doesn't win. Damos was already going to win again. No, he wasn't. If he takes... Oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, so listen, Jomi, calm down. Okay, so listen.

Okay. This is kind of what, this is what Jomey is saying. Once again, guys, I've already admitted that I wasn't getting it. So, they give the time stone, like, strange surrenders the time zone. Okay. Strange would not have had to surrender the timestone to Thanos if in fact Peter Quill's plan would have been executed. So if Peter Quill's plan would have been executed

and they would have gotten a gauntlet off of Thanos, then they would have won. And if they win, then there's no reason for Dr. Strange that's giving up the time stop. Yeah. The whole thing is, so I can see that point. I can see the point that Peter Quill had to do that. The only thing that I'm saying is,

are there 14 million other scenarios where he didn't do that? Yeah, probably, and they lose. But what I'm saying is if they didn't get the fuck, if that didn't happen, then they got the gauntlet off Thanos. And Thanos just kills him outright. But how would he get, how would he kill them all right if they got the gun?

He's the man. We see, and he beat up the Hulk the beginning of the movie, like no stones, just gave Hulk hands. You telling me he can't beat up Drax, Camora, Nebula, that Camer was there, she already not. Nebula, Mantis, Spider-Man, just hands? Without the Power Stone, I think he'd be up for it. I think he'd be in for a fight.

I'm not saying that he wouldn't have. I'm not saying, yeah, he probably would be a fight, but he would kill those guys. Without that, I think if they could have gotten the gauntlet off of him, he would be in the situation where he might be overwhelmed. It's just the movie tells us that's the one scenario that they win. So then my question is, does that mean Peter Quillet could not be nominated for the greatest crashout? It's absolutely a crashout, but I'm just saying it's a crashout.

Of destiny. Of destiny. It had to happen. So it's an asterix. We're putting an asterisk in that. Maybe. But when you look at it, all of these crash outs had to happen. Because-

They don't happen. The movie doesn't happen. These guys don't crash out. Yeah, so all of these crash outs had to happen. If Iron Man don't crash out on, then the Avengers don't split up. Huck, I didn't have to kill all them people. That's true. That is very cool.

He could have just been at the farm the whole time. That's true. But at the same time, if he didn't kill all of those people, then you don't have him coming out and acting all weird and all it. We haven't even talked about Thor's crash out. Thor gained 150 pounds. So like all of that stuff. Who hasn't?

Who hasn't? Who among us? He was going through it. There's a difference. Who among us? Depression ain't a crash out. Not put on a couple of LBs because we were... Depression ain't a crash out.

I'm not saying depression is a crash out. I'm saying depression can make you crash out. And that's what happened to him several different times. I mean, yeah, he was alone in Scotland playing Fortnite. But even when they get to the thing, and he's talking to when they get to to Asgard and he's talking to Rocket, and Rocket's trying to get him to do it. He fucking frees out and he cries.

He has a panic attack. What are you doing? Yeah. Frees out and he cries and he runs away. I'm interested in a Jomi's crash out, and there'd be Jomi's thoughts on this. Because I can see what he's saying. I don't know if I get the logic.

I don't know if I 100% agree, but I get the logic. I see it. I just, again, that's what the movie tells. So then who's going up against Peter Quill in this round? That's tough, man. I had Peter Purson. Parker at the ending of No Way home

nearly killing Green Goblin. That's not a crash out. He just getting his lip back. Yeah, but that's, I mean, that's not... If you killed my grandmother, Tony... And you killed my aunt, it's different. I mean, but it's the same thing that Tony was going through. It's the same thing I'm in. He's talking about.

I mean, well, to be fair, yeah. Green Goblin was not brainwashed. He's like, oh, man, I'm Norman. What's happening on the podcast? What are you are? It's the same thing. It is not the same thing. The Green Goblin killed his on.

I can get my hat on the throat again. The Green Goblin did what? Green Goblin killed Peter Parker's aunt. He was not fucking. The Green Goblin or Norman Osborne? By the way, by the way, he killed her. And he was also on some brainwash shit. Yeah, but here's the thing.

Norman Osborne was never good. Bucky, like, that much. Oh, nigga. What? Norman Osborne was never good. He was a villain from the beginning. Bucky is a war hero. No.

Bucky is a war hero. I don't know about that. Wait, what? Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Bucky is the winner. Not wrong. Bucky. He's from the greatest generation, y'all.

Jesus Christ, man. You didn't think of Bucky won the presidential medal. He paid for his sins in Wakanda. Oh, my goodness. No, no. So, fucking Winter Soldier brainwash and killing fucking Starz's parents is not the same as Green God would kill the same. It's the same thing. It's absolutely the same thing.

One of them is a villain? Yeah. And one of them is a brainwashed hero. You're bouncing on it right now. That's crazy. It's literally the same thing. All right. So Norma Osborne a hero now.

I'm not saying he's a hero. He's been a villain from day one. He getting his lickbacks for killing his mother figure. He killed Spider-Man's mom. though, bro. He killed his mom. The first time we see Norma Osborne in a fucking movie, he sticks his hand in the sweet potatoes, he started looking him.

He's a villain from gay ones. Yeah, that's disgusting. Come on, bro. He was trying to get those at the sweet potatoes. Yeah. The marshmallows. I was with the marshmallows on time. Well, get the fuck out, bitch.

I can't, who you think you are? That's how you know. This is actually- And they had him cut the bird. This is the thing. Never let somebody in your house that's going to stick their finger in the sweet potatoes, That's a lesson. Who do you think you are? Norman Osborne to come in.

That's this guy. And then he looked it like he was trying to get some of my hand-made. Also, Norman Osborne after that shows up to her crib, blows the whole shit up. Go to another dimension, goes to another dimension. And she's a hot version of the same woman is like, get by lickback. That's not the same. She out there praying, man. Deliver us from me, man.

The scene ends so weird, too. It just fades. Finish it. That was the Sam Ramey is seen at that. That was so great. Charles, unfortunately, you're wrong. It's hysterical. It's very funny.

If we're talking about just getting a lick back, then we can go back to Wakana forever. And what's her name? Shuri. Or with finding... Yeah, look, we're talking about real crash outs here. Yeah. I mean, she didn't kill him, but she ripped off his wing, feet wings.

She was going. She was like, hey, man, I'm going to kill you. But then she was like, she caught Jesus at the last second. Are there any Matt Murdoch dare double crashouts that are right? Oh, my God. He crashed out all the time. I mean, it's the definition. Yeah, he crashed out all the time.

Even if we were talking about like the new show, when he was fighting that guy outside the bank, whatever. Yeah. Just like crazy. He's a crash out artist because they, you know what they do to Mac Murdoch a lot? They push him too far. Matt Murdoch is leading the league in Marvel. Crash out for me?

of getting pushed too far. Matt Murrock is trying not to do it. He goes see the priest, and then the father, they push me too far. They're always pushing Matt Murdoch too far. But this is my question. They'd be pushing Peter Parker too far and he wear it like a jeep. Yeah, they do kind of push him too far. But they push him too far, but since he's still looking for a father,

they always push him into the arms of somebody. So he's always like. You've got somebody to talk to. He's got somebody to talk to. He gets pushed too far. So Murdoch having more father figures than... Murdoch's father figure was Stick. Yeah.

And so... That was not a point. He was a terrible father. No, he was a father. But that's not the type. He's not the loving type. That's why Murdoch go crazy. Yeah.

The reason why he'd go crazy is because... That's all you know. Spider-Man got a good support system. Daredevil got a hair. I'm like, I'm going home to night nurse. That's not a... That's not a... I mean, it's a support system in some ways.

But he can't, he go back to night nurse, be like, hey, man, it was crazy, bro. Like, I almost killed this dude. She's going to be like, you should have done it. I don't know what you thought of me. Spider-Man, people would be like, hey, man, you got to stay true to yourself. Don't get me wrong. Daredevil stops himself, right? He stops himself from going because the Punisher's there.

And Punisher Crashout King as well. I had a Crashout King. Punisher crashed out in Daredevil's apartment. That's why I ended up watching when I was on Disney Plus. I ended up watching Punisher, Daredevil Born Again. Bro, go back and watch the scene in the apartment with Dead Devil and Punisher. Yeah. Br.

Frank is fucking, like, it's blood everywhere, the knife. He looks like a ravaging beast of killing. Actually, that's what I want to nominate when, what should you call it, Punisher in the courtroom. I do that. I love it. That actually, that's a lot. That got it. That's all right.

That's all right. That's all right. If you mean your crash out, that's pretty, yeah. That's a crash out. All right? So it's Star Lord for this round, right? Star Lord. Star Lord.

So we have Star Lord, we have Killmonger. We have Hawkeye, who was the last one? Iron Man is of War. Yeah, that's a good list. That's a good list. They're going to yell at us. We miss something. I mean, I think we talked about like the big ones.

And also, like, we really got our Mount Rushmore crashouts. That's a four crash out, yeah. Iron Man, Scarlet Witch. Hawkeye and what was the last one What was the Peter Quill? Those are the Those are the

Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Let's make sure we got it right. Because, so Kilmonger isn't on there. Is he on there? He lost. He lost. He lost to who?

Wait, no, Kilmonger didn't lose. Kilmonger definitely made it. Okay. Kilmonger made it. Yeah. I could make an argument that since you brought it up, that maybe Punisher

in the courtroom, maybe that should be over Kilmonger. I think honorable mention, maybe. I think honorable mention. I mean, if he were to beat anybody, it would be Kilmonger. Iraq. Afghanistan. So for the people, Kilmonger was round one? Civil War was round two.

Hawkeye beat out Scarlet Witch. Damn, we didn't put Scarlet Witch up in there. They're going to be mad. No, no, no. I think, again, I think like our four crashouts are different from like the pantheon of people who crash out. Yeah. Right, because Scarlet Witch didn't win that round,

but if we're talking about people who had like the four people of the marvellers. All-timers. Then let's real quick. We already got the rounds out of the way, lightning fast. We only at Mount Rushmore crash out. Scarlet Witch is there. Iron Man. Iron Man.

Daredevil? Or Punisher? Punisher. Yeah. And then who's four? Peter Quill or Kilmonger? It's got to be Peter Quill. It's got to be Peter Quill.

That's the greatest crash-out Marble. Yeah. It is most cause the punch. So Peter Quill, Punisher, Scarlet Witch. And what's our last one? An Ironman. Damn. It's a crash outs.

Crash outs, man. Crashouts, like, these characters, they be crashing, bro. Be crashing? Yeah. That's funny. Jomi, are you okay? I'm fine. No, I'm good.

We're good. It's just like, guys, reading comprehension is important. Let's make sure that we so bad. I'm worried about your blood pressure. That's the African temper. That's the African time. That's the same. That's how mad they got when they sold us into slavery.

With Jomi's people. Why were they mad? Because the niggas was fucking up in the village. That's why your family don't want to be hanging with us at your party. They look at it at us. That's the anger. That's the anger. That's the anger.

You know what I felt like... You know, your parents, you struggle in math class. Your parents trying to teach the math. And like, hey, what's eight times seven? And you're doing like this? What's eight times seven? And you got to go again? What's eight times seven?

That's how it felt. That's how it felt. I'm not. I'm still not certain that you're right. But I understand what you're saying. I see the thought process. No, no, no, I swear. I have to understand what you're saying.

I just didn't get that kind of open matter. Let's bring it all the way down. If Pierce's plan does work, what happens? What you mean if Pete's plan? If Peter's plan, they get the gauntlet off. Right. Again, you're assuming that there's a reality where they didn't get the gauntlet off, is what I'm saying.

Guys, we have to write this episode. There's only one version where they come out on top. What's going? Hold on. No, no. No, Van is Rating. Wait, wait. You're assuming that.

Don't fall for this, Jovie. Don't fall. Don't fall. Don't go. Come to the light, Jome. That in every other deal, they didn't get it off. Or just like they didn't, you're assuming that that's the seminal moment. I'm just asking you, why are you assuming that that's the moment? Charles, take us out.

That that's the difference. I'm just saying, I'm asking why. I got to do the, I got to do the deal real quick. Arjuna. Arjuna. That's a wrap. This week on the Ring of Verse feed next week,

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Ash, Ketcham is smoking on that, Zah. You know what the midnight boys are about. And if you ask Jomey about Peter Quill, he will fucking crash out. There's a big sign for the ringer gambling show right there. Okay. Mm-hmm. So there's a number one

And then there's money Then there's a football and then what's the what what is the coin flip? Oh, it was a coin flip Coin flip. Oh, it's a coin flip over there. Yeah. Who is in charge At the ringer of making

A sign for your show? Like the art for the show? Who's in charge of the art or the physical signs that we hang up? The art of the show who's the That would be David Shoemaker. Yes. Shoemaker is a very, head and his team are very, very talented.

Jonathan Bartlett, Neil Francisco. Shoemaker is in charge of that. Yes. Okay, so you have a show. Let's say I had a show. I'm going to start putting... Matt James. Can't forget Matt James.

Say all the names. Matt James. Okay. But also Shoemaker and his team are very, very busy. They are super busy. You got to get your art request. Okay. So this is what I'm going to do.

I'm going to just start coming up with random shows and then see what kind of art. They don't have time for that. They don't have time for that. They do not have time for that. They do not have time for that. Respect my guys. Wait, what are the shows at the ringer they need?

The question is, do they have time for fun? No. No. They don't have time for fun. No, we'll see. We'll see. They could do one. I think they could do one a month.

And I think we should come up with some show ideas. Just some crazy podcast. The ringer porn and dragon show. And dragon? A show, porn and dragons. First half is porn. Second half is drags. All different types of dragons.

It's not like porn and dragon. What if there's dragon porn? Well, there's definitely dragon porn. What if there's drag on porn? But the reality is the ringer porn and dragon show, porn and dragons. Okay. Right? Like.

So does the art for that look like? The ringer basketball and waffles. Well, of course, the dragon would be like a dildo. It could be. But see, here's the thing. It's up for our interpretation. I want to know what Shoemaker thinks, because I look at that, and that's a fucking bomb-ass sign.

And I think I look at that and I go, even the. look of it says, hey, want to come back here to my speakeasy? And that's like, shout out. Right. You want to wear like the green visors and stuff. Shout out the wrigger gambling. Shout out the gambling show. But I want to put Shoemaker and them to the test. I want to come up with shows. And I want to see what kind of signs they come up with.

That's the type of shit I like to do. Because I like people. Black people out where we get all the, we get up. Ring a niggas. The ring a nigger show. On Netflix. Coming to New Nigger. The Ringer nigger nigger show.

Like, it's like, I want to see what, I want to know, that's the one. I don't know what Shoemaker did come up with for that. Specifically shoemaker. It would be the Rigger Nigger show. And it would be like Barack Obama. Who else would be on, like, who else, how would you do that? Oh, Tyler Perry would be on that. Tyler Perry would be on that bitch.

Like, who would be. Umar? Like, yeah. Like, I want to know what, but how it would look. Like, what, what kind of thought do you go with? No, it would be like 90s. sitcom Martin, you know how they have? Like scribble letters? I said, this what the

fuck? Y'all made me sick. At first, I bring the idea up, and all three of you guys, hate one, hate two, hate three. Actually, it's the other way around. And look at us having fun. Because it's fun. It is fun. It's fun to think about Shoemaker, making up signs

and his team. Shout out to the team. Say them again? Dave Shoemaker, Jonathan Bartlett, Neil Francisco, Mad Janks. These are people that I know. The Ring and Nigger show coming to a Netflix screen. Guys, guys. Guys. It's funny.

It's funny, but like, let's be real, man. This is the Ringer Nigger's show. Rachel going to be pissed off. I think I'm on the Ring of Nigger show. Rachel going to be pissed off now. Rachel is going to be pissed off. Steve on this bitch. Rachel, Rachel, going to be pissed off.

But when you think about it, it's us, it's higher learning, is real ones, is, like, what else? Like, you know, they got, Waz's a little outnumbered on group chat, but we got Waus. But Wals got such a strong niggerishness that he. Oh, Rob. We got. Ross is the man. What is the man? No, what you got to say it like that?

Man, Wals came in this bitch one time. I fuck with Wals, man. Wals came in this bitch one time. What Wals had the black shirt on, the chain was chilling. Come on now. Like, walls look like, walls. When I saw walls, shout out walls, man. When I saw walls, walls look like an older drug dealer who mentors the young niggins.

You know how they dress? Yeah. You know how I like, oh, Delo O'Lindo and Clockers. Like, Darylindo and Clockers. Like, every time you see him, he's smooth and he's fresh, but he's not wearing that shit you wear. You don't have a starter jacket on with the big buck. Nah.

And the whole. He's not loud with it. His shit is cool. Like he smelled like brute. Like, you know what I'm saying? Wall's got a, like a style that I look at walls and I'm like, how the fuck? I can't, why can't I dress like that?

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