The Ringer-Verse - ‘Harley Quinn,’ Looney Toons, and the Importance of Animation! | Mint Edition

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

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I'm Steve Ballman. I'm Timiton. And it's Mint Edition time. The once-and-while podcast about all the fandom that you just can't live without. We're back again, guys. We're back. Jomi's got, like, Jomi's currently, like, peeling his eyeballs out of his head.

We've had long weeks We've had long weeks God tests us today I spent all last night crying After the finale of Harley Quinn I had tears my eyes Very true The whole time it was emotional

Of all the things that plucked Your heartstrings You know In your 27 years of life I'm glad you think of that You know Years of life Yeah yeah yeah

28 28 years of life Like Harley Quinn has to be One of the things That you're just like This will be a constant In my life

We love these characters We're always going to find ways to love them. Again, man, we used to get, you know, 26 episodes every year, bro, for millennia, dog. You know, SpongeBob is still going on right now. I know it's a classic, but still, they got hundreds of hundreds of episodes. That could have been us. When have you ran back a new episode of SpongeBob? Have you tapped in back?

A new episode of SpongeBob. Oh, boy. Because then again, like, it's kind of like the Simpsons where it's just like, I don't even, like, of the majority of the episodes that are are out, I don't think I've ever seen them. There are, there, there was a time on TikTok where they would play full, like the 11 minutes of the straight SpongeBob. On TikTok? On TikTok?

On TikTok, yeah. From like the official Nickelodeon account or just like somebody else's, okay, somebody else is streaming it? Yeah, somebody, not even streaming, somebody else to just like take whatever, uh, popular episode whether it's like the fancy patty one or the Pretty Paddies episode or the, um, the one with the gorilla and the, the horse. zebra thing, and they would put the full 11 minutes of

of that episode on TikTok. It was fun to just like, you know, reminisce a little bit, be like, ah, this is nice. Do you wait for the future about like what Saturday morning cartoons means for a kid now? Does that have Saturday morning? They don't have, that's done. You think that's done? No, we have TikTok now.

We have YouTube. Cocoa Mellon ruined it for everybody. Cocoa Mellon? I would have thought that like it's probably oh man, I think the last thing that we could get is Bluey out of the kids. No, but that would mean And so the thing with Saturday morning cartoons that makes them special was that they aired on Saturday morning. Sure. The only time you could get it was on Saturday morning.

You hear that kids? Now, now. All the five girls are listening to us? You go on Disney Plus and it's there. Monday, Wednesday, whenever you want it, you can get your content. Versus, oh, man, I can't wait to watch this new episode of Power Rangers at 12 p.m. on Saturday, man. I hope they don't kill my favorite ranger like that. was the thing, at least for me,

as a kid that I had. Sure. They don't have that no more. You go on YouTube, and they got all the Power Rangers seasons. But listen, Jomey is one to grind tape when it comes to knowing what the Power Rangers are up to. I'm thinking about me,

I'm a grind tape. It's the thing I'm watching at the gym, man. I'm locked in. I'm watching In Space right now. Okay. I'm watching In Space right now. What season is? The Silver Rangers just showed up?

This is, so it was, they did like four seasons of Mighty Morphan. Right. Then you had the little Aiden Ranger thing. Then I want to see. say it's either Zio or Turbo or No, no, no, it was Zio, then Turbo,

then it's in space. Right. And so I'm going to, I think probably going to take me the rest of the year. I'm going to do In Space, Lost Galaxy, light speed rescue, and then Time Force. So, last thing I'll say before we get to our animation

block of the pod today. That's what we're talking about, by the way. Real sad that your favorite season of Power Rangers is the copaganda season. It's the Copaganda. It's not my favorite. SPD is not my favorite season of Fire Rangers. It is one of them.

It is, but it is because it's a good season. Like, I don't know it to tell you. This copaganda stuff is kind of embarrassing. I'm not going to lie to you. We have to, like, actually, we don't have time to get into it.

Line in the sand for, is Power Rangers copaganda? Yes or no. If it's just like a show about cops, like it's literally procedural television. Right. It's real simple. Robocop not copaganda,

yes or no? Not, by your definition, it's copaganda because he's a cop who's out there beating a villain. Yeah, but he does shoot that guy in the dick, and that's pretty cool. Nah. I do like that. Nah, I remember when Brooklyn and I was finishing, they were like, look, this copaganda, man.

Okay, well, that was of a time and a place. You know? Psych, copaganda. Cipaganda. Well, that's a detective. Well, that's a private detectives. But they work for the Santa Barbara Police Department. All right.

Welcome to the show, everybody. Today on the show, we're going to be talking about the fifth season of Harley Quinn. All of it. All of it. The finale just dropped the other day. We loved it. We're going to be talking about where the show is going to be going, now five seasons in the can and what the future could hold. And then we're going to be talking about Looney Tunes.

The first full-length animated feature from the Looney Tunes in the Year of Our Lord 2025 came out this past weekend. We're going to be talking about the day the earth blew up. And then we're going to talk about kind of just the importance. of animation and why that should be a thing that we can keep living and loving in pop culture and maybe the things that we lost along the way from our childhood. Maybe we'll get a little old man yells at Cloud. Who knows?

But before we get into that, some programming reminders. Next week, the Mid-I Boys are going to give you their thoughts and feelings on the Severn Season 2 finale. Joey, did you watch it? We're recording this on a Friday, the day after the finale dropped. I have not watched it yet when I'm going to do this. Oh, boy. For real, you haven't seen it yet?

I'm going to leave here. Let me tell you something. I'm going to Wingstop. Right. Give me a 10-piece, all flats. Uh-huh. I'm thinking doing Louisiana, Louisiana rub and the Hickery Barbers. I was talking about Severnson.

You're talking about the food. Hold on. Hold on because it's a whole brother. You see how he's trying to stop my shine, Kerm? I'm just saying it's like I got to. You can't just sit down and watch it, Steve. I understand. You got to get the pregame meal.

Thank you. You got to set that shit up. You got to put it on the table. Thank you, Cur. I'm getting the fries with the lemon pepper seasoning. Yeah. My large diet Coke. Lemon pepper dry guy.

My four ranches, right? Two foot of meal, two for later, because you never know when you need ranching. Crib. And I'm pressing play on Apple TV. And I'm a lock in, Steve. I'm lock it. I can't wait. I can't wait.

The only thing that I'm going to say, and I pray you've stayed away from the internet. If you, brother. I'm not spoiling anything. I'm not feeling anything. I, and this is, you see how I, you see how I, I want everybody who was listening, who was hearing me to listen to what I'm saying. I knew that I wasn't going to be able to watch Chevron's the night it came out.

So you know what I did? I turned off all my group chat notifications. Good stuff. Smart man. I stayed off Twitter. I stayed off TikTok. I stayed off Facebook, Reddit, everything. I took the necessary precautions that nobody could spoil it for me.

Not in any way, like putting myself. in a scenario where it could get spoiled for me, I remove myself from those situations. Right. Not expecting everybody else to take care of me and not spoil it for me. That's self-care. I am doing what I can so that I can't,

there's nobody else that I can blame but myself if I get spoiled at this point. I'm just going to say, we're about to enter a new era of Milchick edits. Oh, boy. I don't know what he was doing. Oh, man. Don't you worry.

Don't you worry. Just just keep that. Not milkshake. No, no, no. Milkshake is bringing everybody to the yard that finale. All right. Hey, yo. Also next week,

also of our yellow jackets and daredevil coverage continues, as well as button mash coming back talking about Assassin's Creed Shadows. Man. They finally pressed the button. They went to Japan. Are people still mad about that? People still mad about the black man in Japan? They'll probably find something to be.

Listen. I saw a tweet that was like, they were mad that the, uh, the main character was romancing a non-binary character. Right. Then the, the quote was like, my man, you press those buttons. In order to make those buttons. In order to make the romance happen. You did this.

My brother in Christ, you made the decisions. You made the decisions. What do you mean? Yeah, people like to get mad about all that stuff. I've never played Assassin's Korea and I've never been, uh, because I have things to do in my life. So a 60-hour collectathon fest is not really in the budget. But this, I mean, the whole thing was, man, a sadst creature really go to Japan.

Even when they were doing like Etzio. For years and years and years and years and years. And then Ghostos Hashima came out there. And then, well, okay, well, now we have to. We got a lot kid. It's like, all right. People are eating our lunch. Yeah, Ghost of Yotai, can't wait.

Yes. I'm not like replaying Ghost of Shima, but I hopped in there. My brother was playing it. So I was like, let me. get back and let me see what's going on. Brother, that game still looks. Gasoline. Feels and plays incredible.

I can't wait for the sequel, bro. Hell yeah, man. Where can be found on the internet, Jome? We can be found on the internet on TikTok, on Twitter, on Instagram, and on Facebook at the ring of verse, not the ring of verse, because that's too many characters. Just ring of verse. We're having a lot of fun over there. You know, we talked about Daredevil as Premier League teams and people were mad.

So, you know, whatever gets the numbers up. We'll try. Yeah, we're doing what we can. Yeah. And we're getting close. Nearly 50K on IG. Nearly 50K on IG, we're almost there, guys. To create some burners.

Get us to the mountain top. Well, the mountain, I mean, 50K, I mean, 50K, I'm not going to lie. It is nice. Oh, yeah, that's sizable. You're doing your job. Now I'm saying, we have higher goals, but 50K is a good start. It is a very good start. All right.

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You don't need WeatherTech unless you plan on doing summer. Visit weathertech.com today. All right. we're back. We're back. It's time to talk about Harley Quinn, the fantabulous show on HBO Max

in its fifth season. Just finished. I feel like we've been talking about this for so long, Joe. This is probably the constant, it's Sonic and it's Harley Quinn. Those are the constants in Mint Edition's life. This show is,

it's really funny because this show came out. I think I didn't have a job when this show first came out. Right. I remember it was DC Universe. It was that Young Justice, rest in peace. And so I think when we first started this show, it was one of the first things we ever covered.

So, yeah, this show was meant a lot to us, and I've had an absolute glass watching it. And, yeah, I think this season was, it was different, but I still came away enjoying what I saw. I think I had a, some might say unfair, criticism of the last season or the seasons prior being like oh man it just doesn't quite have the juice of the or the heart that seasons one and two had and the kind of found family aspect of that we all came to know and love but now it's grown into a different show entirely where

it's basically you know harley quins and ivy's show and encompassing characters around them while kind of like serving the better parts of their relationship, which I've liked quite a lot. And once I kind of got through that, all of season five, I've had that mindset going in, and that's pretty much just been exactly what I needed to get through most of this show and how much I've enjoyed it.

Because all of the kind of like mini arcs that our characters go through, both Harley and Ivy, are really, really good. I just kind of wish that I still stand, by the idea that I wish their relationship were a bit more tested by a bit more external forces. I'm not quite sure, because I know that we had reported before and had known before that, like, the creators of the show never want Harley or Ivy to break up.

I mean, they even said it in the, I think, the second or last episode. Yeah. It's like, could you imagine if we break up, the internet would go crazy? Exactly. And I'm like, I'm not saying that we would need to go crazy, but it's the idea that the trials and tribulations of a sitcom relation, ship, kind of have a bit more of a rigorous, I guess, let's say, obstacle course, for lack of a better term, in, say, season five, where if you really want to get deep into what these characters are about, we're kind of going back to, all right, well, like, what if we have Ivy confront the person who made her the way that she was, or have, you know, Ivy take care of Shark King's kid, 20 kids. Would you rather have Brian the Boom Mike guy Fall in love with Harley

And so it'd be like a little awkward Because it's like Who's this new guy? Are you missing the office reference? Remember office? Yes, yes, yes. I think the strife is better when you When it's internal, right?

Versus something happening outside the stress relationship When it's between Harley and Ivy And their goals and like who they are as people And their values and how those might might be different from the others and how that kind of tension resolves itself in the relationship. I think that's way more interesting for those characters or any characters, really, than like there's somebody else who says something or something somewhere puts the strain on, like a job or another person.

I think it's way more better when it's internal versus extra. Right. And I think it's safe to say it now at this point. We could recommend to watch the fifth season. It's still great. It's still very, very enjoyable. But we'll be spoiling pretty much everything that comes with... Every single second.

With these things that come with it. Because we've got some very interesting villains. We've got some very interesting turns. And then a pretty good finale, I would say, that leads into something that could be really fun. So spoilers from here on out. What do we think about the villains? Brainiac. I was genuinely surprised.

I really liked this turn from Brainiac. I thought the Brainiac character was a lot of fun in a way that he never is in actual. you know, comics or any media that you've seen him in. Like, I mean, it's the,

it's the show's MO, which is to kind of lampoon these characters. And we have that episode with the, we go back and look at Brainiacs Life, how we got to where he was in the show. And even that was kind of funny,

like the saving files bit, I thought was hilarious. Right. But, because he's smart. Ha. The, when he starts talking to the audience,

like, starts breaking smash the fourth wall. Yeah. You know, and it's like, ooh, I didn't like that. Like, dude, I was, I was not ready for that. I'm not, I was not, I was not, you should have let a, let a, let a nice day and know what was going on, man. I was like, whoa. Yeah, I, I don't want to say we got into shark jumping territory there, but.

No, no, no, no, I liked it. It was just like, that's a, that's a wild turn that I didn't expect. And it happens in the finale, too. And at that point, like, it's like, all right, like, this is something that I know can, it's coming. is cool. I was like, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's interesting. Because if he's all, if he's super smart, if he, of course he knows that we're watching, right?

He knows that we're there. But also, he's also crazy. He sees little Coco, who's been dead for millennia. You know what I mean? Is this him just being crazy or is he actually talking to the audience

and breaking the both of them? I think, like, I want to be like, look, he's so smart. But I think what it really is is like he's crazy. So he imagines that there's somebody watching. But the fact that they were able to turn that on us.

Yeah. And at least at first, for me, it was spooky. But later on, became, like, just an insight into his thought process and who he is. Because he's very robotic, obviously, very results-focused. But in that moment, in those moments, he's showing emotion. He's showing, like, a level of thought that we hadn't seen from him before. And it's like, oh, this is a good... I like this.

This is a nice, interesting twist on a villain that, like we said, is super calculated, super serious. I don't know. Have you played in Justice too? Have I played in Justice too? Oh my God, not in so many years. Yeah, but like, I mean, I don't want to say like it's the big, you know,

thing everybody knows Brainiac from. That's the first time I ain't created a brainiac. From the story, you mean? Yeah, outside of like a comic book or whatever. And it was like, cool. All right, yeah. Like, I mean, again, it's a video game. I don't, they don't need to be,

doesn't mean Stephen Spielberg type writing. But at the same time, this version, I think, showed me something that I didn't know Baniac could be, which was insightful and thought-provoking. It was really fun. It's tough because I've always had a very hard time taking most Superman villains seriously, if any, other than Lex Luthor, which has kind of been well-trod upon for, like, well-mined, both humor and dramatic insight.

Everybody's got a Lex. Everybody's got a Lex. But it's really tough to pin down. what a brainiac is because again a fellow alien hyper-intelligent I think the way that he can bounce off of Harley and Ivy is really the main crux

of why I found this so interesting because again all of these D-tier villains that emphasized what made the first season and the first few seasons and instances about the show so important is really great because to me the like the uninitiated

into what really makes brainiac meaningful if we can say that to me may as well be thrown off to Harley Quinn and Ivy. And it's such a, and that's not to be diminutive towards how important we find these characters, which I think the status of their growth and their relationship, I think that's probably a bit better reflected in Ivy this season. When I see that like full conflict happen and play out,

I was really impressed that they can still keep these things fresh. I think the jokes weren't exactly like high comedy, but then again, like, it hasn't quite had the same staying power as far as its comedic legs from seasons two through seasons five.

But I think that the heart and enjoyment that I get out of this comes from the connection that I get from Harley and Ivy. So I'll ask with you, like, what are the MVPs from this season? Because we have a couple of new characters, mainly like great new dynamics with other characters in our early game to play out through the end of this fifth season.

What did you think? So my MVP is not a character in the show. Oh. It is a voice actor of one of the characters in the show. Okay. Lake Bell is the MVP of the season. And I've always loved for Poison Ivy because the idiosyncrasies of her portrayal of Poison Ivy like just the ad libing is hilarious to me

like they always give her like the one-liners or like just the um the uh just some like off put not off-putting but like stuff that's like just off the cuff that's like really really really funny to me but this season in particular they let her showcase her emotional side and I thought it was it was incredible to work like Bell was doing

you have the episode with her former mentor right and she you know has to kill them and they have like what two three episodes of that and then you have frank dying super emotional then her get back on frank frank frank dying was genuinely was tough painful painful and then um you know trying to be a good mom to frank can right really really sweet just different levels of emotional weight that she handled with extreme care whether it was revenge whether it was sadness or whether it was love, it was just incredible work by her.

And so every time they would put her in a situation where she had to do something crazy, she did it in times 10. So I was just like, wow, this is incredible, incredible voice work. Lake Bell's my MVP of the season. What about you? I would say, Blake Bell is a very good pick. I really, really, really liked Lena,

especially early on in this season because it's a very good foil to anticipating what a family member of Lex Luthorre could be and how they're like, no, I'm actually like really fucking with you guys. And you can see me as an ally, a genuine one throughout this entire season. Yeah. And she has her own problems. She has her own dimensionality when it comes to like being the gaslight gatekeep girl boss

that kind of Ivy and Harley want to be while still being very approachable and fun. Like that dynamic really, really worked. Yeah. Especially when it came to the conflict with Brainiac. and it's not exactly the classic hero turn that like when say at the end of the season they relied on Superman at the end or bringing him back that was really cool it also kills off Brainiac and we're left with something that uh i think is a really really cool setup for season six so at the the linchpin of that luther character being somebody that is both an ally and a weird foil for them is kind of good.

I've liked that a lot. And aside from the kind of like familial comfort that they would find in friends, like an extended like kinship with Harley and Ivy, like with all of your clay faces and everything like that, who do make a return in, you know, some form and fashion, but not exactly in the ways that I would have always loved. Like if I had my way, this would, it would always be about the four of them.

them forever. Damn, forget Dr. Psycho. That's crazy. I mean, do we really need to bring back Psycho? I mean, no, but it is kind of weird that he just kind of left. He's not around at all. He's just gone. It's like, yeah, we're not, we're not, yeah, he's, that's, that character doesn't exist

anymore. Like, okay, sure. Why not? Ew. Let's ball. They got him up out of there. Like, he says a couple problematic things and you just, you just, back the fuck up. Cancel culture, man, got another one.

You got another one, man. What happened to the unwokening, man? Listen, they didn't get the memo, clearly. Listen, hey, and Harley and Ivy, they're bringing it back. Bringing back. They're bringing it back. That's what season six will be. Is it to season six?

So, I'm watching the episode, right? Right. And it's a nice little wrap up. They're about to die. They don't die. Superman comes, saves them. Everybody's in their house, chatting it up, having a good time. they look up at the skyline

just Harley and Ivy they go on their next adventure and I'm like I kind of I kind of felt like the end you know that kind of that felt like

did it though it really did I know that the Superman logo pops up at the end but like I don't know what that means like I don't you know what I mean like normally when you do something like that

right you set like you set up a front of freaking another villain. Sure. You would bookends with something that would lead into something else. That's like teases. It's just like them going on their next adventure. Yeah.

Which is like, I don't know, man. It looked very much like if they wanted to end there, they could and it'd be fine. And it's, and not to get too like tea leaf reedy about, you know, have we approved of a season six? Does Max intend to renew or continue? this, if this is the end, it feels like a tad flat for what we would get from these characters. Because again, not to say that the season's long of the tooth, but like, I'm very impressed at how long we've gone on with this show and still, you know, managed to keep it lively and fun. I think that this probably foretells an ending to where if they do not renew, this is going

to be where we leave our characters for now. were I to be entirely happy with that? Not really because I liked a bit of finality with the idea of what kind of season three left with us. Granted, that did dovetail, but if I never saw those characters again, sometimes I would be happy with that. This is kind of like, all right,

and then this doesn't feel like a definitive happily ever after. I don't know, it kind of did, right? They got back their old apartment in Gotham. They put Metropolis right next to it. And there's everybody they love is in the same room. And they're like, it's Harle Ivy against the world. Yeah.

Nobody can tear us apart. No matter what comes our way, we'll be fine. Brother, that looked like the end of the chapter book. To me, you flip the page, the end. That's when I wanted, that's what I want, like, Wanda Sykes to close the book. Yeah. And be like, and now we're throwing it in the fire. And then that's it.

See you never. If that was the series finale, what do you think the legacy of the show is, at least to you? I don't, you know, let's get into, yeah, let's talk legacy, bro. Like, its first take, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Stephen A, Shannon Sharp, you know, Dan Nervlosky, bro. Let's talk legacy, bro. What's the legacy of the show if it never comes back? I would say that, you know, it's chip seasons were one through two and a half. and those are the chip seasons

and then I think then we had like you know the legacy they're kind of like Golden State now where we're like all right we have our key players and we got to got you know not to say it's a bit of an old folks home but we're kind of we're playing our hits

wow and we're good and I'm not mad about it you know Indemic legacy so who's Steph if go if if if if Harley Quinn is

golden's like who's Steph's probably Harley and no that's Ivy that's Ivy that's Ivy yeah but it's tough that's tough cop that's a tough cop you want to know who sinister is who Draymond Jesus Christ

I mean I'm not I don't it's really funny I'm not gonna attach a sports metaphor to it but I just think I mean this is the ringer I don't I don't know why we would do that I don't I think this show I think the fact that it lasts this long is really like a testament to the legacy

of the show. When we talk about animated shows, especially like adult ones, outside of Rick and Morty, man, they don't really don't. Outside of a Rick and Morty, adult swim, you're not really finding a ton of them.

Yeah. And there's not really any new ones, right? And so, I mean, I like common side effects. It was cool. You know what I mean? I think common side effects is brilliant. I think it's really fun.

Spiling Friends is really good. Spiling Friends is awesome. Bro, people, not to, we'll get back to Harley Quinn the second, but the Spanling Friends gas is reaching the Rick and Morty gas? Yes, it is. It is. I mean, listen, until we get to Seshwan sauce,

I don't think we'll get to Rick and Morty levels. You're not incorrect, but it's the same thing where, where's the new season, Dan? Dan, where's the new season of Rick and Morty, Dan, where's the new season? It's the same thing. Every time I get online, Spine and Friends,

where's the new season of Charlie Friends? Okay, okay, yes, but that's like the, like milieu of the adult swim, like, hey, you made a really great funny thing. Now we're going to complain about it. To be fair, I feel like that that could have happened were something like Harley Quinn's season one or two were on adult swim.

Maybe, but I mean, those didn't take forever to come out. No, they didn't. And that's the opposite of the antithesis of what we're talking about here. And that's the legacy of the show, was that the show did the thing where even though... And batting average was solid throughout all of it. Yeah, and even though it was, you know, what, 13 episodes, the first two seasons, 10 episodes, the rest,

we still got consistent, funny television, basically yearly. Well, that's not true, because they did take 2021 off. Well, no, let me tell you something. But it's better than most. Okay, yes. But John Bernthal, let me tell you something. when I When I

He did be saying that He does be saying that a lot Every season He's got something to say it Yeah This season genuinely Stuck up on me When we were like

Oh this is on the docket For us to cover Wait a minute It's our fifth season's like Halfway done Yeah I missed hearing about the fifth season Okay

We're all We're already here That's genuinely impressive And that shouldn't be In this modern era Of television And streaming And what we're

Making and putting out The fact that Max can still be committed to something, making something like this, as efficiently, as cost-effective, and as still as high quality as it is, I'm impressed. No, we got six,

we got five seasons and a special, and the show premiered first in 2019, November 2019, really. Yeah. And so in six years, we've got five seasons and a special. Beautiful. That does not happen anymore.

No, it doesn't. That does not happen anymore. And so when you think about the legacy of the show, you think about its consistency, in it coming out and it's and its storytelling, honestly. And so, yeah, I think when we, like, hopefully it's not the end, right?

We don't know. They haven't officially announced the season six. It's not impossible. But, like, just watching it, I kind of felt like, oh, man, if they, if we never saw these characters again, I think, it's not like they went off and we're like, we got this big grand adventure.

We can't wait to take you guys on it. Boom. It was very much more. And everyone takes a bow. Exactly. It was very much more understated than that. And so I think if they didn't come back, it'd be fine. But I hope they do because it's a great show.

And yeah, they literally do not make TV like this anymore. And so I want to see more. Same with me. I'm wonderfully impressed. And I still hope that people check this out. And if you've gotten this far and haven't checked it out already, please do. Because it's still really great fun. Imagine just listening to the whole Harley Quentin Season 5,

spoiling the whole thing. And you're just like, you know what? I'm going to check this show out. That's real. Those are real homies, man. Shout out to you. When Clock King and the Ridler went through their week About okay well we got

Pub trivia on Wednesdays We go for you know Weekly runs hiking And like does that do you think that keeps the spark alive You gotta keep the spark up Listen we would all be so lucky Pub trivia is legit Me and my omies we were in a game

On Sundays we brought Joe last week It was fire bro Oh you went to pub trivia with Joe Yeah All right, so, okay, here's the thing. I had won with my group last time. A bit of a controversial thing because a couple of people were in my DMs being like,

this shouldn't be allowed. We had nine people on our team. So we don't, sometimes we roll deeper. So the cutoff for us is six. Cut off for us as in those are the rules? The rules are the rules. The rules are six. The rules are six.

But you can play with, so last week we played with 10, but you can't get a prize. right, you just, you're just playing for playing. Okay. You're just playing to play. Right, so whoever, like, we don't, we got the, like, we always win because, you know what I'm saying? We're locked in like that, real, like, team stuff, you know? But we don't get the first week.

We got the most points, but we didn't win because we were disqualified because of the rules. Follow a question, important, what's the prize? What's number one prize? What's the second third? It's $50 at the bar. Okay. And that's fair. That's for, yeah.

But, like, I feel like, like, rolling, I would cap it at 10, person. I mean, you got a lot of friends and it's fine. I mean, it was cool again. We just there at the end of the day to have some fun with our homies and honestly win some trivia because we do be winning.

I'll be very clear. Shut out my man, Daniel. He'd be locked and a son like that. But really, pup tribute is just a good time. Like, I cannot get competitive over Pub trivia. That's just not in my... Oh, my God. I've got a friend that is militant.

I can't. It's not, brother-man. About the competition in pub trivia. It is a Sunday night. I got work in the morning. we're not going to do his beef over whether it was the... That's game day. Whether it was the War of 1812 or War of 1812,

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mist collection only at Sephora. All right and we're back. Time to talk about Looney Tunes. The day the earth blew up. Oh my God. Porky pig. Donald Daffy Duck. Donald Duck. Oh God. That would be a funny movie. Yo, could you imagine?

Working at the gum factory with Daffy, you would sound better. Anyway, Looney Tunes, their first animated 2D feature-length film ever, if you can believe that, is out in theaters now.

It's called the Day the Earth blew up. Distributed by ketchup entertainment. That's going to be very important coming up in a second. You know what? Good. Does good with ketchup? What? Musta!

Somebody got to do it, as they say. I'm so sorry. And how does that make you feel? Empty inside. Okay, good. Well, I mean, did you feel full watching a Looney Tunes cartoon in the Year of Our Lord 2025 in the theaters? I'm not going to lie to you, man. I pulled up to the theater.

I had my nerds gummy clusters in one hand. Good stuff. And my cherry lime made Coke on the other hand. There you go. And I didn't know what to expect. But I was thoroughly entertained by this movie. I I don't want to

I don't want to start by being too hyperbolic here but like this is probably going to be the time that I have to use it because the lunatines are like very important to me and not so much important to me as in like oh hey like I grew up and and love these as a kid and like I still see them in my life

like getting into the culture of what animation and cartoons and that style of comedy, cartoon comedy, was very important to me so much to know that, like, it's kind of what I thought I wanted to do with my life after college. Like, I went to school wanting to be a voice actor. And once I realized that was just acting, I was out.

Because I was like, oh, wait, I have to go to auditions and, oh, no, absolutely not. Look, you don't got to go to auditions no more. You can just put in a self-tape. Still no. Still no. I know I don't have roommates. You could have been the next Troy Baker. Absolutely not.

You know what? You could have been the next Nolan. I have enough scarfs. That's fine. When I think about what's important to me and what's important to pop culture that I think needs to be preserved, it's probably something along the lines of what Looney Tunes did. I think the work of Chuck Jones I can hold as in high regard as the work of Mark Twain. It's really important. And it really got a discouraging.

to me when I saw, you know, the recent news of, like, Warner Brothers taking away the classic Looney Tunes cartoons from Max. Get it off. Get it off. You can't actually see it anywhere. You could buy it on DVD if you could find those. But it's not, it doesn't live anywhere in a dedicated space. Acme versus Coyote, the long loomed, uh, show that got shelved amongst other projects canceled by

Zazlov used for a tax write off is now potentially. in talks to be sold to ketchup entertainment, the distributor of the day the earth blew up, as kind of a revival of at least preserving and keeping these things alive, let alone wondering if they should even be worth your while. So getting back to the actual movie itself, Jomi, what did you think of the movie?

And would you recommend this to somebody? I definitely would recommend it to somebody because I had so much fun to watch the movie. It's very, very classic in what it does for an animated movie. Again, I mean, I wasn't locked in like you, clearly, but I watched Marang, you know what I mean? And so I saw, I saw a good amount of this stuff. And it's very much in the vein of old school cartoons.

And they make, and they kind of updated there are a little bit of 2020s jokes that some land, for the most part, they do. And so I was just like very, I had a great time. Cool 90 minutes in and out of there. Just to, just the noodles and noodles of fun, man. It's a, again, it's so refreshing because I hadn't seen hand-drawn 2D animation like this in quite a while. And I think there's like a look that this thing's happened. If you watch something like the Iron Giant or you watch something that's like Disney adjacent or Warner Brothers animation adjacent

that came from like the mid to late 90s like of the types of like green goop that you see or like the exaggeration in the lines in people's faces. I can kind of liken the art style and direction to this kind of like a ren and stimpy if you're kind of familiar with how that looks where faces are exaggerated and highly shadowed and drawn in such a way that it kind of both feels modern

like memeified art as well as keeping with classic Lini Tunes design. I like that a great deal. And that kind of also reflects in the humor of this movie. I can see the memes in this movie. I think you can too a little bit. Like anything that has to do with Farmer Jim. Oh my God, bro.

Farmer Jim was genuine jokes. Oh, my God, man. And it's all with animation because there's this just like era of like a Norman Rockwell painting of a father figure that isn't animated except for his lips that don't move. And there's something like it that doesn't happen in visual joke telling anymore that I really, really appreciate that you don't get to see.

Like, Jomi, tell me I'm wrong. Or if it's something that's like... So the thing that made me the laugh the most about Farmer Jim. Well, a couple of things. One, probably look like Jason Kelsey. Like, that's fair. Like, 100% like a ringer for Jason Kelsey. But again, this is to the movie's credit,

is again, he looks like a P&G the whole time. Right. He's not moving. Even when he's walking. He's like, it's just, somebody took the Photoshop file and just bounced it up and down. And then he turns around. And it's the most gorgeously animated thing of just turning around. You've

ever seen. Completely and utterly, like, just fantastic animation after, what, five minutes of of just stick figure moving. Looking at a still, basically. And then it's just the most... Remember to take care of your home. Daffee. And then he goes off into the sun. Bro, like, Mufossa, man. Yeah. And I understand that we're spoiling a bits of it. But again, it's a level of visual humor that you actually... Yeah, we can't convey it here. We can't convey that. and it's impossible to convey it, and that's what makes this special. Like 90% of the things that I would laugh at

when it came to this movie are the things that I literally see on screen and the way that, like, the artistry and frankly love, that is, I can see put into a movie like this, regardless of how much you can think about it structurally of being for kids or not making sense

or just being all over the place, which it is. I give that a pass, because I love the work that is put into films like this and cartoons like this. When like the heartfelt

things that Daffy goes through with trust at the expense of Porky's like a job. While used for jokes 99.9% of the time, there's one

moment where things get earnest and it could still be played for laughs or it could be like kind of inert or whatever because this is a movie for kids. But it's not lost on me and no, it's not profound. I really, really, really think that it's a level of comedy and entertainment that is getting overlooked. And I wanted, I kind of championed wanting to put this on the pod because to me if the kind of of corporate machinations of a Warner Brothers or an HBO or the Zaz loves of the world, we keep losing these things.

Shows just go away from your streaming services now, and we shrug and thinking, oh, there's nothing that we can do about it. When the things that we loved and grew up with or we even like and passingly want to enjoy, kind of just go away because they're just, you know, small little tick-marked.

on the asset chart of a larger corporation, that kind of feels like a bummer. And to know that, like, I was so elated to think that ketchup, A, buys this from Warner Brothers because they believe in it, because they actually want to see what it can do, not only for being preserved out into the world of theaters, but after the fact it gets a life of its own. To think that we can get to see Acme v. Coyote,

Kyudu versus Acme One day. Fingers crossed. Like, if we know for a fact that that's coming out in 2026, I'm going to say that I'm going to champion people to see that movie regardless of whatever

quality I think comes out of it. Yeah, you're going to lie about it. That's what you mean. I don't care. I will lie. I'll Tom Cruise call up. These are the movies we need to be seeing now, Mr. Flash director.

Like, that's the level of caping that I want to do for this because the level of outrage that came from writing movies off from tax credit. It's is justified to me. The fact that we will not see Batgirl, the fact that we won't see the sequel to Scoob,

however you may feel about the sequel to Scoop, all of the work and all of the labor that got put into that to just be never shown again for the sake of attacks right off. Did you see the Bad Girl leaks? The Bat Girl Leaks? The stunt footage? Again, could have worked.

I mean, it was cool. Yeah. I'm not saying, look, I'm just saying, I saw it. I was like, okay, I would like to, you know, see the, you know, the- If you saw, if you- The tight-up version of it. If you saw, like, one scene with Farmer Jim and they're like, and they're like, hey, we're actually not going to release this because we thought that we could just make more money writing it off as a tax credit.

You'd be pissed off. Well, no, it's more of the fact that, like, I saw Bad Boys 4, who were the same guys who made a bad girl before it got show. Right. And so I'm seeing the action. And, you know, and I'm like, well. Oh, wow. Yeah, well, I'm like, huh, these are the same guys who made Bad Boys 4, which I liked a lot.

Yeah. Surprisingly, because those two dudes are old as hell. How did they make this work? This, like, I can see. Those dudes being Will Smith and. And Martin Lawrence, if I see it patched up, like, you know, made it look like a film. Again, these are leases or not like anything official. See it patched up look good?

Like, hey, we might have something. So you believe that Brendan Fraser, given the right director, could be capable of fire kung fu. Anybody can be, anybody can be capable of fire kung fu. I think to your larger point about, uh, this movie and what it means in general,

I don't have the same attachment to two-d animation that you have. Uh, was not, I was not, I was not, like that. Obviously, like, you know,

I love Lion King and all those, those other stuff, but I also grew up in a time where we had Toy Story, man. Mm-hmm. And Walee, actually, I was a little too. I mean,

I think you, you were around for, Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo. You were around for peak Pixar, for sure. Cars. Yeah, all right. You know, I was 2006. I understand. You know my stance on cars.

You know my stance on cars. But I was still in middle. I was in elementary school. I understand. I understand. It was heat. Yeah. Okay. Bangor, right?

Monsters Inc. was the first movie I ever saw in theaters. Right. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I remember my dad was like, are you going to be scared?

I was like, No, I'm tough. Man. Yeah. And I think that's, and that's to me what I'm, what I want to get at is because like to this could be some kids first movie they see in the theaters. This could be some, like, this could leave an impact on somebody. Yeah.

As much as a fine movie that this is, like this kind of means something. To see the level of creativity, like color and joy that comes out of a movie like this, as silly and wacky as it can be, I think that's important. I mean, I see that, again, I see the 2D animation thing, but I think the more important conversation is about just original animation

because they just announced Cocoa 2 coming out. Right. And, I mean, we've joked about this on the pod, but like now it's getting real serious. We're just like, we're just going to get Toy Story 105, Monsters 11. Frozen 3 and 4.

Frozen 3 and 4. Like, there's just no room for original animated movies anymore, clearly. Like, that call's been made. Like, we joke about it. But seriously, I don't, I don't really see. You will be seeing those. Yeah, I really don't see a world where they're just like, let's create, like, a brand new world for people to play with in a habit,

whether a 2D or 3D. Like, what, they got the Hopper movie and they got LEO and that's it. Everything else from Disney over the next couple years is either a two or a three or a five. But it just feels crazy to know that characters that have been around since the 30s. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. In the Looney Tunes. Like, they just get a movie.

And like, yes, sure, count Space Jam. Count whatever you want. Like, count Space Jam with LeBron. I don't care. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do you? Respect my glorious king. Okay.

Don't do that. Don't do that. So knowing that LeBron James could have been nominated for Best Actor in Space Jam, New Legacy. You see what you're doing?

You're trying to put, you're trying to pin, you're trying to pin me against my goat. Right. And I can't have that. That's just not going to work for. I just want to see how you like,

Jenga piece your way out of being like, like made to slander LeBron James. First of all, first of all, first of all, Space Jamming. See, if it had come out without the cooties, it would have made a billion dollars. So you're saying if that was released in theaters,

that would have made a billy. Made it made a billy. Everybody would have come out to go see. I don't believe you. Yeah, because here's the thing, right? How many times can you go see LeBron? You only play is 82 games in the regular season. Sure.

So there's 41 here. That's without downtime. All right. And that's exactly, right? So you really have 82 chances to see LeBron and 41 of them he plays in Los Angeles. So if you're out of Los Angeles, he'll have 41 chance to see him,

and he's probably not coming to your city for the most part, right? He might... Maybe you get two chances a year to come to your city. And if you live on the East Coast, you might have one. Right? But you know, you could have seen LeBron

in the theater's Space Jam legacy, and that ticket's only 1299. You know what I mean? Right. You would have ran it up up. And he's going to put up 60. You know what I'm saying? No.

But even with... With Space Jam, even with, like, all that stuff, I don't, I must, when I say people don't care, I'm not talking about us, obviously, we care. But the people in charge don't care. We mentioned earlier, they're getting all that Looney 2 stuff off of Max because kids aren't paying for Max. Nobody is getting Max to watch the Luey tunes. Or whatever reasons that they feel like. No, no, no, that's the reason. That is the reason is that you get Disney Plus, you put on Bluey, you put on whatever, the kids watch.

that. And for whatever reason, the numbers aren't boring out and whatever lumps of coal that it takes to burn the HBO Max servers aren't worth keeping Looney Tunes on it. Well, Warner Brothers is cheap sale. We know this. Yeah. Disney got a little bit more bread. They still cheap, but at least they have, uh, they know what their audience is.

They know their audience's kids. You can't get Bluey off there. You can't take Composible off there. You can't take Mickey Mouse, uh, clubhouse off there. there because people pay for their kids to watch that stuff. Nobody's paying for paying for Max so their kids can watch Sesame Street. According to them, right? According to them.

Which I don't believe. I don't believe either, but that's how they see it, right? They would know better. They have the numbers, whatever. Looney Tunes is an institution in the animated world. It's like quite literally one of the original bastions of this medium. And so the fact that they can just like, all right, bet, nobody cares. It doesn't make us bread.

He-he. Into the garbage? It's kind of nuts. I don't agree with the decision. I could see why they would come to that conclusion. Basically, I can't remember the exact wording for it, but Sam's Club sell that chicken for $5. Right. 499.

And the price will not change. The price will not change, right? And you do that, so we will come in. Maybe they buy some other stuff. They definitely buy the chicken. But they come for the chicken. But maybe to buy some other stuff. You know what I mean?

And maybe Looney Tunes don't move the needle like he did way back when. But Warner Brothers and Looney Tunes are like this. It's ubiquitous. It's like to not to be a Warner Brothers streaming channel and not have Looney Tunes, to me, it's kind of nuts. Yes. And it's the idea that like to know. that the things that are in tandem with the inception of Disney

and Mickey Mouse and all of those iconic characters, the reason that Looney Tunes happened was because it's a direct response to Mickey Mouse. This is for kids. This is for kids that are cool. That's what it was back in the day. And then to know that those things diverge off as far as they can go and that Looney Tunes has to fight for its life in this corporate.

America to like merely exist really feels like it really sucks it would be like if if the lakers were like man it's too expensive to keep all those jerseys up there uh let's just take let's take down magic and kareem yeah who needs what's the r oi on keeping those uh jerseys back you know what i mean like even if it's even if it costs like again none of it costs like a billion trillion dollars but it can't be that much money it's it it is not bugs and daffy bro that Loonitunes show with Christian Wigg. New Loonetunes in 2015 when that came out? Yeah, with Christian

Wig. So funny. That show was so funny. Watch these things. We can't anymore because they're gun. I mean Well, no, some of the Looning Tunes shows are still up on Max. Oh, really? But the original ones from like the 60s and back gone. Lola Bunny was hilarious.

Christian Wig is Lola Bunny inspired casting. So funny. So funny. Guys, if you're hearing this, go watch the day the earth blew up. It's fun. It will stay in theaters for a while. I sure hope so.

I sure hope so. And oh yeah, hopefully we get Coyote v. Acme, man. I'm not going to lie about it like you will. But I think that, I mean, what if it's fucking good?

What if Will Forte actually cooks? I love Will Forte, bro. McGruber. That's my guy. That's my guy. That's a crazy underrated movie, by the way. Dude, oh my gosh, bro.

The McGoo. SNL movies used to fucking mean I feel like that's the last one that really meant something. Tom McGrubour movie is so funny, bro. It is ridiculous. Yeah. How funny it is. That's a joke machine of a movie.

And it's so unsurious. I don't know. I love it. Ryan Felipe, come on. Yeah, yeah. It's great. It's great. It's great.

But, but people, a lot of people works really hard on it. And it sucks that, you know, it sucks that Warner Brothers was like, yo, y'all got it. Nobody be able to see it. So hopefully it comes out. We can see it. And we can be honest about it, Steve. We can be. The day the earth blew up is the rose that grew through the concrete.

I promise you. It's a lot of fun. I enjoyed my time of the movie. I hope you guys will too. Go watch it. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's a little fun. I thought the story was, was well done. And it's just really, really, really, it's heartfelt.

Rest and peace, Farmer Jim. Dogs. Well, now you're going to let the people know he died. Well, you know what? No, he's never, first of all, he's never really gone. He's never really gone. Farmer Jim is always with us. He's always with us in our hearts.

Absolutely. It hurts. All right. That's going to do it. Let's get the hell out of here. Thank you again, Junior Mints, for listening to us. You really appreciate it. You guys are the best.

Thank you for listening. Don't forget, Midnight Boys are back. Talking about the season two finale, Severance. Be sure to watch that one. Joey and I got presents for you. It's going to be great. Mark is hot.

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Don't forget to miss that as well. We are produced by the Great Kerm with Addictional production by Arjuna Ramgo Pal. Jomi, give us some parting words. Maybe a disc tracker too. Maybe a discracker too. If you got one. Just if you can't. No, I'm never making music again.

Wow. I'm hanging up my, my music bag. Are you like Prince? Is this the bad record deal? Are you going to wait for the great emancipation? No, whoa. That was his album. That was his double album called The Mancipation.

I know it was, but the way you said it. Know your music history, folks, all right? Know the Prince deal. He phoned in Raven to the Joy Fantastic, and it was still great. He phoned that shit in. Wow, you locked in. Don't mess with, don't mess with Steve. Don't fuck with me with Prince.

Prince. floor, all right? Y'all Midwest homies, man, you know what I'm saying? Chicago, Minnesota. Remember that argument when Spike and John Titoro were fighting and do the right thing where they're like, no, your favorite artist is Prince? And he's like, nah, Bruce. Nah, Bruce.

And I'm like, no, it actually is Prince. It actually is Prince. Oh, man. Shout out to everybody who stayed with us throughout that, whatever that was. Whatever that potting was. Yeah, no, we had a great time. We had a great time at the movies. had a great time with the TV.

We had a great time talking to each other about it. And we thank you guys for listening. You know, it means a lot. Gotta give a shout out to our guy. The intrepid producer, the number one man on the call sheet. When he talks, we all listen. My God. Janus, answer the Krimpro.

Hey. And we will see you guys next time. I don't have a song. I don't. That's fine. I know. You can just cut it. I can just stand.

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He got 50 nuggets because he had a 50 piece. I know, but he was very cute and nice to the lady where he's just like. Sorry, I will put you a, can I put your camera? Do you mind or no? Sure. There's 150,000 people watching you right now. Really? Yes.

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