The Ringer-Verse - 'Hawkeye' Episode 3 Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

Van and Charles are back for another round in the third episode of Marvel's 'Hawkeye' (05:03). They share what they loved most about the action-packed episode and discuss the captivating introduction to Echo and the intriguing Kazi (27:27). They also speculate on who the mysterious figure may become later in the series, and talk about whether the popular Netflix series 'Arcane' will get the cosign from Charles. Hosts: Van Lathan and Charles Holmes Producer: Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Additional Production: TD St. Matthew-Daniel and Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit weathertech.com today. Welcome into the ringerverse. This is, of course, the ringer's nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. We are Charles Holmes, aka Coke Baby Chub, the 24-carat closer. I am old man Van Lathen host Higher Learning with Rachel Lindsay and Van Lathen here on the ringer network. We are Jomi, the explainer, Adidiron, all of your questions, all of your answers. Jomey has them. We are Steve Almond Joy, the cuddly cringled Christmas bear.

Together, we join forces as Voltron, and we are known as of the Midnight, boys. Ab-A-B-B-B-B-B-B-H-B-B-B-R. Programming reminders, Friday. The House of R will give you their Hawkeye, Deep Dives. They're going deep into Hawkeye. You know how deep Hawkeye reaches into his quiver when he pulls out arrows.

That's how deep they're going. Think of Hawkeye on the last arrow when he's digging around. around, getting deep in there. This is getting really sexual in a very awkward way. No, it's not. You guys are still doing that. It's still carried over from the last one. It's not.

I'm just letting you know that in the house of art. It's deep, deep diving. Deep diving. Deep diving. That's on you. It's in your mind. On today's show, we are going to give our instant thoughts on the third episode of Hawkeye. And a big question for Coke baby Chuck later on in the show.

All right? Got a big, big question later on that the 24-carat closer is going to answer. But for now. Wait, before we jump right in, we rushed it. Then I didn't get to ask you, how is your Thanksgiving? You're in Turks and Kekosah. You got to enlighten me. How was it?

It was good, you know, spent some time out here with the family. Well, I say, you know, the family's found family out here. Kalika and I went out here and celebrated the, uh, the birthday of a very special friend of ours, you know, had some people out here where, we're Turks and Kekos. They drove us around and they drove around on ATVs

and showed where Drake has a house out here in Turks and Kikos. I just want to say, we broke. Like, it's just so crazy. It's like, the island is amazing.

You know, you get out on the island, I was on a jet ski. I was like, I fell off the jet ski. That was fun. Kalika and me, boom, right off the jet ski.

Multiple times. Kalika had a sequence yesterday where she fell off the jet ski twice and then fell off the dock. How do you fall off a dock? Okay, this is a very funny story. So she was attempting,

so one of the white guys that we met who consequently told me that he voted for President Trump, but one of the white guys that we met out here, he was trying to ask me what the name of the movie was that I want to Oscar for. And the dock is like floating off the side of this little tiki bar that you jet ski out to and then you you have drinks in the middle of the ocean. And like we're going out there and she's trying to tell them the name of the movie, but the dock is floating away from the thing.

And I look over and she's doing the splits and all of a sudden she goes down. And then when she tries to get back up, she hits her head. But the run punch was in her soul so much to where she didn't feel it. You know, she broke two nails. She went back up to the... She broke two nails. She went back up to the room like a G. And made two new nails. Final question before we get into Hawkeye, did you have any collared greens and cornbread mash? No, I didn't. But I'm glad to see that y'all know that y'all wrong.

Oh, we got flamed. We got flamed. The southern midnight mob got us. They felt disrespected by y'all. Even my mom was like, yo, where these boys from? She's like, they're talking about us like, in a way. I'm like, I know, moms. I'm telling you, they felt disrespected.

Shout out to all y'all. You know, people eat different things, different ways. I come up to, I come up to Philly and they're like, oh, God, what a quarter water. You know, I get a quarter water. Stop. That's what they say. Quarter water.

They like that. Water ice. So people eat different things, different places, you know? Now, we have to do it. We have to get deep into the quiver. That's what we have to do. That's what we do here. Jesus.

What we do here on the Midnight Boys. All right. Let's get into Hawkeye. Steve, give me my spoiler warning. We're getting ready to talk about your listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Now, Charles,

it's a big moment for you because in keeping with our new flavor for the recaps of the season, you're about to hit us. With the need to know about Hawkeye episode three and what we are calling the Midnight Manifest. Midnight Manifest. One of those little TMs by that trademark. All this stuff is Midnight Boys.

Okay? This is midnight proprietary stuff. We got Charles, take it away. All right. This is everything that you need to know about Hawkeye, episode three. The episode is titled Echoes, written by Katie Mathewson, Tanner Bean, who both wrote on the Fox TV series pitch. It's directed by Bert and Bertie, who you may know from 2019's Truth Zero or directing

episodes of Showtime's Kidding and Hulu's The Great. The plot of this episode, we start with a flashback, which centers on a young Maya Lopez dealing with her deafness and artificial leg, despite William Lopez, her father, who was played by Zane McLarenin from Reservation Dogs. Ben, have you finished Reservation Dogs yet? Not yet, but I love the show. I got a couple more to go. He is amazing.

When he came on the screen, I almost screamed. Zane or William Lopez is not able to pay to send Maya to a school for the deaf children, but she proves to be a capable student and gifted martial artist. And then at the dojo, Williams leaves Maya with her uncle, and we get the first potential introduction of redacted. Should we say who it is, Van? Should we say who it is? you go ahead and say it.

Say it. It's Vincent. It's Vincent to Nofrio's King fucking PIN. I knew it when I heard his voice. I knew it.

Was I happy? I was more happy because you know my feelings on his kingpin, but I was very happy to hear his voice. Were you surprised, that they did that so early?

No. I mean, who knows how much Kingpin we're going to get and there's sort of back and forth about what version of the Kingpin we're going to get?

Who knows what Kingpin we're going to get? But that seemed to be the Kingpin. He's the Kangpin. We last episode, we were all like, man, they're not going to do it before Daredevil potentially shows up in No Way Home. But we got his voice. We will talk about that later.

Then a slightly grown-up Maya watches Ronan murder her father. And spiritually, if not verbally, she swears vengeance on the Ronan. Back in the present, Clinton, Kate, are held hostage by the track suit mafia in an abandoned KB Toys. Shout out to KV Toys. I feel like the new generation doesn't know KB Toys, but it was a big toy place. on the East Coast. I remember it vividly. One of the TrachSoup Mafia is sad that his girlfriend won't let him go to an Imagine

Dragons concert, also shout out Arcane. Maya Lopez and her associate Kaz interrogate Clint and Kate about the identity of Ronan, and then eventually Clint breaks free of his restraint. And in a peak, Jackie Chan fight, he's getting at the Trach Suit Mafia with toys, fighting them off, he dukes it out with Maya and then saves Kate. Clint and Kate Jack a car and a chase ensues across New York, where Kate gets to use some of Clint's trick arrows. And here is my very, very quick ranking of all the trick arrows from worst to best. Worst, USB arrow, then the purple gas arrow, then the plunger arrow, then the Play-Doh arrow.

Then we go cable arrow, grappling hook arrow, acid arrow, explosive arrow, and the best arrow of them all, the pin particle arrow. Last but not least, Clinton, Kate, regrouped. a diner and agree to work together. Clint also promises his son on the phone that he'll be home for Ximus. It is super sad. Clint and Kate break into Laura Barton's penthouse to hack into the Bishop Security database where they find that Kazi, who was working with Maya Lopez, is also employed by Sloan Limited, and then Clint is ambushed by Jack Duquesne, holding the Roaning Sword from the auction to his throat. Last but not least, we're going to Comic Book Corner. If you look closely in the Maya The flashback, the moment her dad's hand smears blood across her face, it's a callback to Maya's

costume. It's super, super cool. And if you look at Maya's jacket and her dad's neck tattoo, it features a small circle made up of small triangles that is a hallmark of the Echo, aka Maya's costume. Maya breaking Clint's hearing aid and saying he relies on technology is a callback to her powers because Van, do you remember Taskmaster from Black Widow? Of course. Taskmaster's powers, can you, for the audience, can you tell him what his powers basically are?

Taskmaster can look at you and the mirror what it is you do. He's got photographic reflexes if he'll do what it is that you do. So if you're good with a knife, then guess what task? Master is two. Wow, Van, you have a wonderful voice. Were you in chamber choir in middle school? No? No?

That's just all natural. That comes from me, baby. A little flavor. But in the comic books, Mize powers are similar to Taskmaster where in the beginning, if you, from the episode, you see her reading lips

or her ability in karate to be able to watch something and then be really, really good at it. So her breaking the hearing aid and saying you rely on technology too much is a call back to our powers because she can watch a fight of Daredevil and Bullseye fighting and then mirror that when she fights a variety of superheroes or villains. Super cool.

Last but not least, Kate Bishop draws the traditional Hawkeye costume at the diner. Shout out to Jomi, who was saying we were going to get it at one point. So we got it in the third episode. And last but not least, Kazi, people are like, who is this handsome man? Like, Kazi, in the comic books, he's a villain known as the clown who wears Maw. my makeup. So I don't think we've seen the last of Kazi, and that is the midnight manifest. Love that. Let me take something. I don't know if it was Jomi that said we would get to

costume. I'm pretty sure that was me. I'm just saying. Oh, it was, it was, man. I thought it was Jomey. Maybe it was both of you. Maybe it was both of us, and we could just share the credit. Jommy. Jami, I'm honest with you. We can share it. We can share the credit. Not like you shared your food that day. You took your food and you left the house. Listen, again, I gave everybody their reaction. Yeah, it is, hey, I'm peace. The chicken finger bandit, Jomey.

The chicken finger bandit. CFB. All right. Charles, what are your immediate reactions on this episode? Loved it. Woke up early, early this morning, turned it on. And I think the first two episodes, we all enjoyed them. I was very, very curious to see what would happen in the third.

and if the main complaint you might have for the first two is like a little bit slow, a lot of like setting of plot and who these characters are, episode three is just pure action. It's pure unadulterated. We're going fast, whether it was the kingpin, whether it's Echo's background, whether it's Hawkeye fighting the bandits and all the trick arrows. This one was just, it was just fun. I had a blast and Hawkeye is off to a very, very good start.

What did you think of episode three? It's a fantastic episode of television. I really enjoyed it. I thought the pacing was a little different than the first two episodes, and that worked on its behalf. I thought there was a lot going on. I really, really enjoyed Echo's origin story.

I was really taken by it. Yeah, I was really taken by it. I was really moved by it. Very rarely in any show, do they nail the motivations and I guess the deep down sort of inner turmoil that a character has so directly. Like she, you can tell whatever Echo's doing, I believe in the reason that she's doing it. I believe in the reason that she wants the Ronan.

I mean, you can see the relationship between her and her father and how he was the person that brought sound into her world. He was the person that bought an entire sense into her world. He wasn't just her dad. He was a part of her. You know, a lot of us looked at our parents to help us make sense of the world. She had to have her parent help her make sense of the world. And their bond was incredibly thick. But here's the thing.

Also, you saw that because of what he was doing that there were certain times, he wasn't able to be there. Like, your uncle's going to take you home. You know what I mean? Yeah. So she had a competition. The uncle had to take home. So there was a hard part of it too.

So I just thought that was great. And that kind of set the tone for the entire episode. Netflix's Daredevil did a very good job of when a young Matt loses his sight. And he's training with Stick. And Stick is kind of teaching him that this isn't a disability. This is an ability. You have to learn how to live with this thing and use it to your advantage. And in such a short amount of time in that teaser in the beginning,

you have Maya's father. truly just being like when he's, they're at the karate and being like, yo, it's about speed. And you see her with the leg. Like, we didn't mention that she has a prosthetic leg. And she's using her speed against this very, very chunky boy. And she wins. It was, it was really smart, capable and fast. That origin was fast.

What, they got Maya's whole motivations in and out in, what, five minutes? That is, that is hard. Not a lot of fat, but like a lot of meat. by the way, that kid was overconfident. He's overconfident. He's like, he just knew he was about to come in and dominate. Nah, bro. Because he's a unit, like, he's just like, you know those kids who are just like bigger than everyone.

And they're just like, yeah, y'all ain't going to get at me. But my man, she whooped his little ass. Yeah, she put something on his ass. Wait, flashback really quick to our Falcon and the Winter Soldier pods. You were saying that you were a chunky lad. If candy was around, you would eat it. Was that how you looked when you were younger? No, never like that.

So I had different, just like in my life now. Like right now I'm a little heavy, but then I go back like, you know, before pandemic I was there. So I had different things, but never really like that. I didn't carry it quite like that. I was like a chunky athlete kid because I was tall too. But I was never like him. Like when I was in. Like chunky football player?

Chunky basketball? Like a little version of, yeah. You know, you guys know chunky athlete. Let me think. Like a little. version of a, give me like a, you know, my cousin, Dremont Green maybe? No, not Dremont.

No, Dremont can guard all five positions. I wouldn't guard no guards when I was out there at that side. No, I wouldn't guard no guards. Like a, like how, like Charles Barkley in college, you know. Got you. Yes. Yeah. And then I got, you know, then I went to high school and I started playing three sports and,

you know, I was in great shape, but all of that stuff. Now, we talked a little bit about the character of Echo, but let's go back real quick. We talked a little bit about our connection tour. Do you feel like this was, and I'm going to add something here that's not in the rundown, do you feel like this was a departure from the tone of the premiere episodes, which seemed to be a little bit more character-oriented? This episode really, to see it, even though they had a lot of character stuff in it, there was a ton of action in this one.

And do you see this as being the blueprint for how the show is going to be in the future? or do you see it being a little bit closer to the first two episodes we got last week? So I think if I can be a little nerdy, I think actually the departure in this being more action-oriented is similar to the Hawkeye Matt Fraction run that we've been talking about

where every single issue was almost like a little bit of a bottle episode. And you would get different tones or you would get different flavors, whether that's lucky the pizza dog, having a silent episode, or whether it's like Kate and Clint, crashing a gala with all these villains and having a big fight.

So I saw that this is more in the spirit of like, have you ever watched one of those shows where you're like, oh, every episode kind of like Atlanta, they're doing something a little bit different. It's not the same tone. I'm not saying this is as good as Atlanta, but I could see it having a similar feel of like we're going to get an action episode than an emotional episode and then a funny episode,

which I think works in a similar thing that they did to Wanda Vision. I agree. I agree. very well said, by the way. But I definitely agree. Okay, let's get back to Echo real quick. We both talked about that we like the fact that we liked the way Echo's character was introduced. Something very distinct that this show has to do is balance the character moments with the emotional beats. And we've seen that.

And we even see some of it in Hawkeye, which we'll talk about later on in this episode. But Echo, she seems to be, I don't want to say the deepest, character. But she seems to be holding a lot of very overt emotional weight, even more so than Hawkeye or Kate. Did you feel like that blended well? I know we talked a little bit about it, but do you feel like, because right now she's the villain, we know she's not going to end up being the villain.

But there are times where she's holding a gun and firing at Kate and, uh, and Clint. Is it too easy to root for Echo in this episode? I don't think so. And the reason why I think you need Echo and why the tone actually works is that I think one of the failings of Avengers Endgame

is that we didn't get enough Ronin. So we got this idea that Clint had gone bad, but we never actually saw it. They were just telling us that. And then immediately he's just Hawkeye again. We never actually got the fallout of like what happens when an Avenger goes bad, what happens when Clint goes on a killing spree,

this former shield agent, like what are the lives that he destroys? And what I like about the tone is, is that instead of it just being Clint telling us, like, or look on the look on his face being, I did some dark stuff that I'm not proud of, we get the embodiment of what that dark past is in Echo. And you see it on Clint's face now.

You actually feel the guilt a lot more. And that's why I think you need her to carry so much emotional baggage. Because I think the emotional arc for Clint isn't just him getting back to his family and balancing his family life. It's truly putting the past behind him, whether that's Black Widow, whether that's everything that happened in Endgame, whether that's him killing all these people. So I actually think that you needed her to carry as much as she did. And the actress, Al Aquacucox, did an amazing. job. But Van, did you think that the tone was too much of a hard

pivot in this episode? No, not at all. I normally have a problem with overly sympathetic villains. I normally do. You know, it takes something away from it. I like bond villains. I like,

I'm going to send out gas into the atmosphere and then you ask why? Because it's funny. You know, I like the Joker. Why are you doing this? I don't know.

You know what I mean? You know, but like, I remember in Batman and Robin, which was, you know, obviously a fantastic movie. But in Batman and Robin, Mr. Freeze, he's got like, his wife is all fucked up. And then in Spider-Man, too, you know, he's doing it for the wife.

and there's a reason. It's Sandman, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 3, the daughter, he wants to be able to see the daughter and all of that stuff. And you're like, I don't really, I kind of want these guys to win. But if I want these guys to win, then what does that put me with Spider-Man?

I got to want Spider-Man to win. You got to be bad, you know? And so when I see her, I, to me, I'm ready for the Echo show. I'm watching this. And I'm like, I'm ready for Echo. I want Echo. to beat people up

who thought they were going to beat her up for an hour straight every week. I didn't think that they would be able to sell me on an Echo show when I saw the announcement of the Echo show. Boy, was I wrong. Oh, I was so wrong. Echo. Echo. She's kicking people. And she's fighting again. Once again,

people keep thinking they're going to beat her and not going to beat her. And by the way, I'll talk something else about it. Power scaling in Marvel is very interesting. Tell you what I mean. You said that you got, you didn't get enough Ronan and in game, which will make me ask a question, how much Ronan did you want?

We couldn't get an extra 5, 10 minutes. We saw how quick they set up Echo in the show. We couldn't get extra 5, 10 minutes. Charles, we got to bring people back to life. Okay? We'll have time. You know, we to look, he went to Japan on some last samurai shit,

slightly white supremacist's shit that he's better than the samurai sword than the guys who've been samurai's their whole lives. He also had the white supremacist's hair cut in that movie. You know, whatever. I don't like it when they do it. The people are going to be like, Vans being whatever. I don't like it when they do that.

But, you know, he did his thing. He comes back. And like you said, now we're seeing the scars of the Ronan. I enjoyed that. I enjoy, like you say, picking up the pieces of Ronan and stuff. But, you know, even in this episode, the power scaling, like I was saying, Ronan killed everyone, right? He killed all of these guys in Japan.

Hundreds of people. Mexican drug cartel. He did all this stuff, killing people. Echo was kicking his ass, man. And I got a, and I have, I'm being honest with this. Like, these are the things in my old age that I think about. I think about does years and years of shield training and upper level government training to fight mean nothing?

Shouldn't Hawkeye, who we've seen, kick the hell out of people now for years and years. Shouldn't he be able to handle Echo just a little bit more? Just a little bit more. Shouldn't his years of experience mean that he has the edge and a fight on Echo? Am I the only one who thought this? I'm going to get the other guys to chime in here too. Like, Jommy Steve, when you watch a fight,

don't you expect Hawkeye who's in his late 40s in this to be able to get past Echo? He's fought like intergalactic beings and stuff like that. Am I wrong about that? I felt like his heart wasn't in it. No, he wasn't focused. You know what I'm saying? And also, he's a little,

like, he's kind of washed, right? Like, just a little bit. His knees are bad. He don't got good hearing. Like, I took it as kind of like a LeBron thing. It's like, LeBron technically one of the best players in the world still. Yeah, but it like,

it takes him a while to get up, you know, after a fight now. Yeah, he's got to rev the engine a little bit before he actually like turns it on. And like, he is clearly tired. They were there all night. And just jump, into a car losing his hearing.

This is a back-to-back. This is a back-to-back game. You know what I'm saying? Like the previous episode, he just took down the whole track suit mafia. It's shit. And now we got to wake up and do it all over again. That's pretty tough, but you saw once he was done with them, like he cleaned up the rest of those henchmen. With no arrows, no nothing, just toys. You know what's crazy? Is y'all really sound like some LeBron fans?

Y'all do. You got to understand, man. This year 18. year 19, year 20. It really don't matter to the playoffs, okay? You know, well, what about AD? What is AD doing? AD's got a hell, it's like got to, like, what was it?

Y'all really, y'all really, all the excuses that was just made, y'all really sound like some LeBron fans, y'all do. Are we going to start calling him Le Hawkeye now? La Haukeye. That's who he is. Hawkeye is the LeBron. Hawkeyes is the LeBron of the MCU. Not in greatness, but in, you know, tenure and,

basic body breakdownness. Two follow-ups to that. So is the end-game battle, is that the bubble year or is that a non-bubble year? Ooh. And second question, who, if Nat could beat him,

then who is Nat in this analogy? So let me tell you, Nat is Kobe. That's Kobe. Nat's Kobe? Nat's Kobe. But let me tell you something. The end-game year is not the bubble year.

The end-game year is to come back on the Warriors down 3-1 year. Oh, That's the Chase Down Block. That's, okay. That's Chase Down Block. We was down 3-1, baby. Humanity.

The whole universe was down 3-1, baby. Thanos, really, really, if we're being honest, Thanos had closed out the series. If we're, like, if we're being honest, like, if we're being honest, Thanos had closed out the series. Does I make Iron Man Kyrie? Because he hit the final shot, right? Very true. And he doesn't want to get vaccinated.

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even a little bit more meat than you gave us in the Midnight Manifest about cause. I've write these comics so long ago but the clown is like this character in the Hawkeye series where he's blonde in that he has like this mind makeup like this white makeup and he's basically like a mercenary,

very good fighter. And this he plays a very different role from what I remember from the comics and Steve you might be able to jump in. When's the last time you read the Hawkeye series? Oh, I had briefly touched up on it before we were starting this series. And you pretty much nailed it. What I had mentioned before is that there's also like a bit of a flirtation or a relationship between him and Kate in these comics.

And we noticed that Kate had mentioned like, oh yeah, the hot guy that was over at the extract series. Stop, he was, he was very handsome, like distracting. I was just like, he's, there's a reason they cast him. Exactly. It's a good looking man. And really, really quick, before we get back to Kazi, I have to touch on honestly just the member of the Traxumafia who comes off the bench and just does an amazing, amazing job. The guy who buys his girlfriend, the Imagine Dragons tickets, but they get into a fight and he's like heartbroken that she's going to take her girlfriend instead of him. I have so many questions.

Who is buying Imagine Dragon tickets in 2021? This is my first question. What do Imagine Dragon sing? The arcane theme song, which is terrible. Charles, we're going to talk about that at another time. Which is terrible, okay? I don't know Imagine Dragons like that. I know who they are.

I've heard the name. It's a cool name. Imagine Dragons. Which makes sense in this movie because, you know, dragons. They were talking about dragons in this episode earlier on. So it's like a dragon callback. No, I got the reference,

but I was just like, this man really is heartbroken about these Imagine Dragons tickets. Then what artist could Kalika break your heart with? if, like, you bought the tickets and she just tried to take your sister some. Hate concerts. Hate concerts. We're on the same page. I fucking hate live music.

Don't like, don't like it. Really kind of be honest with you. If I'm being all the way real, kind of don't understand the point. Like, you go there, you want to see, it's like a, it's like a party where you can't really dance. You know what I mean? It's like, it's a, unless they're, like, old, like, like, you go in and see. you need a baker is cool, you know, because it's whew-

you know, but like, yeah, hands in the air, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, I feel like, no, man. I can put my hands in my air in the car. You know, when I run. Music is very functional for me. It's like, it's like I use music to run. I use music to box.

I use music to wind down. I use music to inspire. Music is a tool. So I don't know. I don't need it. I wouldn't go see imagine drag. It's like everybody's talking about. I want to go see Kanye.

We'll go see Drake. It's nice. In LA. I want to go see him. Wait, do you get hit up by your family? Because when I started working at Rolling Stone, I got hit up every other day being like, yo, man, I'm in New York and I get some Drake tickets. I'm like, who do you think I'm fucking am?

Who do you why people think I? Come on. Let's talk about the car chase. Now, you ranked the arrows, right? Yes. You rank the arrows so we don't have to get into the arrows themselves, although I will tell you, my personal favorite arrow is always the grappling hook arrow. I am a big grappling hook arrow fan because I am uncommonly obsessed with grappling hooks and have been.

Batman got me on grappling hooks forever. I am obsessed with grappling hooks. I'm obsessed with scaling buildings using stuff like that. I think it's amazing. And I remember in the Superman movie, maybe Superman, like when the guys using the suction Cup to climb up the building. I always would look at that. Like, I would love to climb up a building using a grappling hook.

I remember my dad was like, a little chubby ass can't get on no grappling hook and climb up the side of a building. You got to get fit to do that. My father was always trying to find ways to motivate. Rest and peace. Here's the thing with grappling hooks, though, really quick. The thing that always annoys me is I'm just like in comic books, they look so cool. Like Daredevil has his little, like, baton thing that, like, he can swing around

and on buildings. I'm like, how does this work? Like, what is Batman swinging from? What is Daredevil swinging from? Do any of y'all know how, like, ropes work and how they attach? They're always just like a grappling hook. They're shooting it.

It hits its mark. It gets deep enough in the building and they can swing from it. That's a very hard to do. The only thing I don't ever understand is it going deep enough. I'm not trusting that. And this is why they're superheroes

because they're, they know that it's going to work. I'll shoot my grappling hook up and then just jump. All right. What if that mug don't hit? You done. Mission over. And so when they did the grappling hook arrow, I really liked it because I know that that's

something, you know, that I'll never get to do. But I loved the whole assortment of trick arrows and that they finally got their time to shine. I'll tell you why. Because in the MCU, Hawkeyes arrows are just like an add-on. They're never the star of the show. Oh, Hawkeye has an arrow for the occasion. But it's never like, hey, I'll use my trusty Play-Doh arrow.

They really never get to shine, which is something that happens in cartoons and comic books, right? But here, like, the arrows get to be like their own character for a second. I thought that was pretty amazing. I thought that was great. Do you know what arrow they didn't use, which is more of a green arrow arrow? But I was just like, damn, I wish they had the boxing glove arrow. I always love the boxing glove arrow. It looks so fucking cool.

It makes no sense, though. How would an arrow fly with a big boxing glove on it? People have different arrows, Charles. Green Arrow. Oh, by the way, real quick. Shout out to the best scene in injustice. Injustice sucked. DC animated.

I don't know what you guys were doing. You fucking blew it. I don't know what the hell. But Harley Quinn talking to Green Arrow about why his lair is called the Arrow Cave is literally one of the funniest scenes that they've ever done. done. You should call it the quiver. And it's just very they really pulled it off really great.

Okay. Now, the car chase, it was one of the things that was most teased in the trailer. It's almost like the centerpiece of the trailer. We finally got it. I didn't know if we would get it in this episode. I didn't know if the car chase was being this episode or maybe an episode down the line.

When it's all said and done, what did you think about the car chase? Hawkeye driving, Kate shooting. I loved it. And the reason I love it is, I think, best fight scenes. If you listen to enough fight coordinators, they're always like, the best fight scenes are the ones that tell you something about the character. You learn something about them. And this was a very, very cool way. Instead of this being like, all right, Hawkeye is going to teach Kate how to shoot some arrows

really well on a shooting range. And she's just shooting at like some, at a board. They're in a car and you're learning so much about their characters. You're learning that Hawkeye is so good at what he does. He's not even looking at the arrows. He's just like, all right, use this one. And Kate's just like, what, like a Play-Doh era, why are we using this? Blah, blah, blah. But throughout the scene, Kate is learning to trust Clintmore, and she's learning to think in a different way.

She knows how to shoot arrows in competition. She doesn't know how to shoot arrows in combat. The same way, like Hawkeye, when they're tied to the little machines, I don't know what you call. What do you call those machines? Like the little horse machines? A horse machine. A horsey, horsey kitty ride.

That's what it's called. Technically, it's a horsey ride. It's what it's called. Horsi ride. Clint's looking at Kate and just being like, yeah,

I know you're full of yourself. Like, but you need that right now. Clint knows that she does not realize how to fight. She doesn't realize how to use her skills and improv.

And I thought that that was such a good scene of like, this is how a superhero would have to teach their little sidekick how to improv. What did you think about the scene?

I thought it was, great. I thought it was great. I was sucking for a good car chase. That was a great car chase. Car chases are hard enough when you're trying to shoot back, but when you're trying to shoot an arrow back, you got to be even more. It just adds a little dynamic to the car chase. I thought it was great. Like you said, I thought, I think they're doing a really great way of giving us Kate's training without giving us a typical training montage, without giving us like, hey, I'm going to teach you how to shoot like this. Because he doesn't need to teach her so much how to shoot.

She's a great archer already. But he does, like you said, he needs to teach her how to shoot situationally, which he's going to learn through being around him, right? So I thought that was great. I also just love to watch him in the fire a little bit more because you get more insight into how he's been so effective as a spy, as a shield agent, and as an Avenger, he is very confident during these fights. He's incredibly confident.

I'll take you back to one scene to where I was like, I wonder why they play Hawkeye like this. So in Civil War, everybody's fighting, right? And I felt like this is one of the times when Marvel really played Hawkeye. Hawkeye sees Black Panther,

and he goes, I'm Clint. And Black Panther was like, I don't care. I was like, damn. I was like, why? let Black Panther speak for the audience at that point. That's how we feel. Like, why are you doing that to him? Like, I thought, are they trying to make Hawkeye a non-factor?

Like, why would you do that? Like, Hawkeye is trying to be a nice guy, by the way. She said, hey, everybody is here is only half fighting. You know, we all know that we're going to make up at the end. We're just trying to impede y'all. We're not trying to kill y'all. So, hey, I know you're probably a good guy. We'll probably be cool later.

We'll probably chill out. I'm Clint. I don't care. I damn. Well, here's a thing. Here's the thing that I think that scene means more now when Kate and Hawkeye post-battle are in the diner and she's drawing. She's just like, here, I have an answer to your branding problem.

She draws the bad costume. Like, Kate, like you draw like a five-year-old. I'm sorry. But the part of that scene that I loved is Clint explaining that, look, my whole career, I've been taught to be a shadow. He's been taught not to stand out. And I think that that actually works because it explains how for so many movies in Avengers, he's fucking sidelined the whole movie.

They're just like, get Hawkeye the fuck out of here. And it does explain he's a spy. He's not supposed to be a superhero. He doesn't know how to be one. He doesn't have the Iron Man thing or the Captain America thing. He's like legit a spy who like just tripped on the Avengers. I'm like, all right, I guess you can stay, I guess. Cool.

You know, he obviously had the scene in Avengers Age of Ultron where he actually explains what it's like to be an Avenger, which is a fantastic and a very central scene and a central theme to what it is that, you know, Avenger has nothing to do with your powers, has to do with the fact that you go out there and you just, your job is to get the job done and protect people. But just seeing him in combat, it's almost like Jason Bourne, Hawkeye. I know that he played Jason Bourne, but it's fun to see him kind of controlling things and not being seemingly, even though he's always been with the Avengers who are up to the task seemingly and over his head. Now, Kate and Clint overall, are we full on in Luke Yoda mode here?

You know, this is why I say Luke Yoda, because Obi-Wan, I'll make a Star Wars comparison here. Obi-Wan is the guy who tells Luke what he's capable of. Yoda is the one who tells Luke who tells Luke who he is. You know what I mean? Like Luke learns who he is from Yoda, even more so than Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan's telling him this, Obi-Wan's telling him that,

but Obi-Wan's still trying to shield him from the truth. Obi-Wan's still trying to, Yoda's like, yeah, he's your dad, your father, he is. You know what I'm saying? Okay? Yeah, that's your father. What does it mean?

Who cares? Like, who cares if that's your pops? We got to get the job done. Get the goddamn ship out the swamp or not. You're going to fail! if you don't think you can do it. He tells Luke, he gives Luke a sense of his power. And that's kind of what I start to see now

is that Kate Bishop is starting to learn, not just more about Hawkeye, but she's starting to learn a little bit more about Kate Bishop through her relationship with Hawkeye. Your thoughts, Charles. I also think that similar to like the Luke Yoda mentorship, I love, I love when a mentor is essentially like, you don't want any part of this life.

like you could tell in that old grizzle veteran they're like you don't know the cost you don't know the toll of this and like that is that in it of itself is a test that in it of itself is like if you stick around that you sign in this document like even if you don't know what's going to come you're not going to quit and I love that part

of like Clint being like he's not saying no you can't be my partner but he is saying like the price that you're going to pay is going to be high and I love that. Yeah and she even sees that when she finally sees him on the phone with his son, which is an amazing scene. Amazing scene. An amazing scene. It's on the phone with his son

and the fact that he can't really even hear is taking the place of the distance that he already has between his family because of who he is. He just can't even get, he can never get quite close enough to them. because there's all this stuff in between. Be that stuff, be a mission, be that stuff, be a vendetta, be that stuff, be their own safety. He wants to keep them hidden away for their own safety.

There's always stuff that's keeping Hawkeye from being Clinton Barton, the dad and the husband, you know, and you get a sense of that. She sees that when she's on the phone and maybe for the first time she pities him a little bit. Like she's like, oh, okay, well, there is a downside to this whole hero gig. This hero gig, you know, for Thor and you, you got Stormbreaker and you go to a different part of the galaxy. That's one thing. You're popping all over. You're looking great. You're hanging out with the guardians.

Yeah, but Thor ain't got no family. Thor doesn't have to come back. Thor doesn't have the responsibilities that Hawkeye has. When we're talking about Hawkeye, we've got to talk about these responsibilities. Which other Avenger has a wife and kid? Tony, and he went out sad, if we're being honest. Let's be honest. It's very sad.

Steve, I'm going to need you to play. Stop the Cap. Okay. Tony went out sad? It's very sad. Yeah, he went out sad. No, no, no. Was he going out his death sad?

Or did he go out sad? Let's be specific with our language here. Well, when I say he went out sad, this is what I mean. He didn't go out weak, but. You backtracking. I'm not. When I say he went out sad, I think of orphan girl, widow wife. That's what I think.

You know what I mean? Like, you know, that's what I think. And that's what I'm saying, Hawkeye has to juggle whether or not whatever he's doing is important enough to potentially leave children fatherless or his wife husbandless. And, you know, he's chosen duty. but he's getting weary. He's getting tired. And Jeremy Ritter's doing a great job of showing that maybe he won't be Hawkeye anymore. And you have a new plucky hawk eye and he needs to let her know one day you're going to be weary and you're going to be tired of this superhero life, as Rodi said once.

All right. So I'm glad that you cleared that up because I thought we were going to have a fight where you're saying that the man who sacrificed everything that wielded the infinity gauntlet. went out sad, but sad means different. You didn't mean weak. I just have to clarify that before they roast us. I will say, though, the great thing that the MCU does in this is that I think everybody has been kind of on a similar

page where they're just like, what's giving Hawkeye family a mistake? Like, who wants these kids running around? Fuck this. And I think this episode shows how like the MCU always leans in. Things that you think that are weaknesses, they bring back and you're like, oh shit, it's going to teach us something about the character.

And I don't think we would care as much. about Hawkeye in this if he was just a bachelor. I think the fact that he like legit cannot hear his child makes you feel why he wants to come home. Like now it's not just hey, I want to come home to celebrate Christmas

it's I need to be close to my family. This is the only, the most important thing that I have left. It's true. It's very true. I thought that scene worked really great. And I'll say this. Pizza dog. Pizza dog got his name. I loved it. I love dogs.

You know what I'm saying? Love dogs. Then the episode just kind of goes off. They get back to her house. They're looking at everything. And then the episode, I literally went back to see if something that happened. The episode just ended. Oh, there was like a good 10 minutes left.

And I guess that was just the fucking credits. And I'm like, oh, that's where we're ending here. Sure, I guess. Which, fine, sometimes you don't stick the landing. One thing I wanted to ask you, I wanted to bring up to you. We didn't bring up this Easter egg last episode, but they did on House of Our working title, where Kate's aunt is a character from the West Coast Avengers.

Do you think that we're marching towards a world where there's three Avengers teams in the MCU? I think there'll be multiple Avengers teams. I'm wary of this. Here's the thing. Nate Moore was talking about, he got very perked up when we talked about West Coast Avengers. and talked about basically they can make it right now.

Young Avengers is most definitely coming. And I'm assuming the West Coast Avengers are going to be like the B and C List Avengers, and then we're going to have like the regular Avengers with like Shang Chi and Dr. Strange and all those big people. Yeah, I guess the West Coast Avengers is the thing that works really well in the comic books because comic books are something that you can do almost at any time. You read them on a plane, read them anywhere, you read whatever. So the more characters, the better. I wonder how movies work

because the Avengers are normally culmination movies, big team-up movies, and the Avengers might have gotten, because you think about it, by the time in-game comes, like everybody's an Avenger, right? They're basically all of the whole Marvel universe is Avengers,

so they might have to figure out a way because you can't really exclude characters who are, like, is Ant-Man an Avenger? You know what I mean? So, like, if he's going, if he's in the Avengers now, he can't be in every big Avengers movie or maybe it's too many Avengers

so they might have to split him up but I'm worried about how that works but see I'm thinking that is this the big you know how like the Netflix series was working up to Defenders is the West Coast Avengers something that they're working towards a Disney Plus because we got Moon Night

we got US agent we have all of these characters that are coming from Disney Plus I kind of might think that Disney Plus might be working towards like a Defender's type series but hopefully better because Defenders was trash Could be Defenders was not that bad

Okay It was Defenders was Defenders was No I don't want to play I don't want it play Damn it Defenders wasn't that bad

It wasn't as bad As Iron Fist Defenders was okay It was It was a letdown If we're being in it You had Sigourney Weaver in that show

and that wasn't a hit, that's a miss. I mean, look, listen, when you base a show around Finn Jones Iron Fis, it's gonna be tough. Like, let's just, let's call on a buck. So terrible. God damn. I'm more with you, Van, in the sense of the sense

I thought it was Iron Fis. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I will never rewatch that series ever again. I was like, I will never watch that series. I'm with you, Van, like, it's not that bad. But man, every time you got to spend with Finn Jones Iron Fiss in that series, it's just, it's rough, man. It's rough, man. I argue that he could have done better if the show was better.

I think that the guy that played Danny. No, no, no, no. We can midnight court it if you want and you can get washed. Listen, I don't need to go to the mat for him. I'm just saying, I think he could have done better. I know he's better than that. No, no. Hell no.

I don't think he is. I don't think he is. I don't think he's better. I think he was, he was cool on Game of Thrones. Cool. Cool. And when I say cool,

I mean like the cigarettes with a K, not even with the C. He was like, K. Yeah, no, cool. You never smoke cools before? You never seen a cool's?

You never heard of cools? Yeah, yeah, no cools. Cools? You smoke cools before? No. Steve, let me, hold on. Hold on real quick. Steve,

let me know if you run this motherfucker smoking cools, bro. Because I'll have an intervention. I'll come to your house and I'll get all the cools out your house. Look, Steve, Steve had a familiarity with cool.

Are you gonna son me and just like make me smoke the whole pack in front of you? No, I'm gonna come get the cools out your crib. I'm gonna help you. Hey, you guys, I need you guys to Photoshop Steve smoking on some cools because it looks like he smokes cool cigarettes. Because you hesitated, bro.

You hesitated. Like, yeah, I know cools. Like, I got some. Yeah, I can see Steve right there hitting the pack. What the smokers do? I never smoked a day. my life, they hit the pack. Honestly, guys, why do they do that?

I think, I think Steve, I see the look on his face. Y'all saying that we the mid-afternoon boys, constantly rushing him to get the episodes up, it made him, you know, become a chain smoker of cools. This is what y'all have done to our producer. Smoking cools. God damn, no filter. Stress down. God damn, you mythos smoking, motherfucker you.

He's that meme of Mackay Fyfer with the sick of him. Okay. It is time for midnight speculation. Echo's mystery uncle. Isn't this clearly kingpin? Ab's fucking looting. Like, here's a thing where they were trying to be cute

and they didn't show his face. I'm like, we all know what Vincent Dinoffrio's kingpin sounds like. It is a very noticeable voice. Why are they hiding this? This is like, there is like a cute wink, wink, and I'm like, guys, guys, you could have just shown his face at this point.

He even has like the, like the coat shit. Like he's the, The drip they even show of him is pure kingpin. It's kingpin. I saw something. We might have talked about this already that they're going to do fat CGI kingpin, like super big kingpin from like more comic accurate kingpin and not the more true to life version of kingpin that we got in the Daredevil series.

Is that a mistake if that were, if that rumor were to turn out to be true? It's just a rumor right now. But would that be a mistake to have the big cartoonish kingpin? Ben, have you seen House of Gucci yet? No. I would say Jared Letto's fat suit in that as Paolo is, it puts a permanent 365 ban on fat suits in everything in Hollywood. Like, we need to fucking retire them. That we're just not doing them anymore. They look like garbage. If they do that, like, they're really going to fuck this up. If they make him like comic book accurate, super, super big kingpin, just leave him alone. Do you, do you want the, do you want a big fat kingpin? Not really. Did they try to do that with, uh, who played him in the pentafel joint? The, uh, who played him in the pen afflick joint?

what should we call it? It's Michael Card Duncan. Yeah, he was big. He was big and he was big. He was big, but he was regular himself. Rest and peace, he was regular himself. He worked as Kingpin to me, though. Oh, he was good.

Yeah. I mean, the movie was an abomination. But he worked his clean pit. That should be a Midnight Mrs. If Daredevil shows up in Spider-Man. I wish. Yeah, Midnight Misses Daredevil. Are we going to see Jack and Clint in a sword fight.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Also, I want to know they've never cleared it up. How good is Hawkeye with a sword? We never got that. I would say that he's probably

hyper-proficient with the sword, right? Because he is one of the world's best fighters. But, is an expert hand-to-have fighter. Somebody whose whole bag is swords. he's probably not quite as good as them. He's probably better than most people,

but someone who's one bag of swords, he could probably hang, but it's going to be tough for him to kind of beat him, even though he went to Japan and beat everybody at their own cultural shit. I hate it. I always like, I hate it. They act like people in Japan

are just walking around with samurai swords. Like that, I hate when that happens. I went there and I didn't see one. It was very, very, very disappointing. expected to see some just like somewhere. Then, how old are you? Do you think there's a samurai walking down the street? I just get into stuff.

I get into, I get into stuff. This is like somebody being like, I went to Harlem and I didn't see any fur coats. Like, man. Wouldn't that be a let down though? You know what I'm saying? Wouldn't that be a let down though? Have you been to Harlem lately? That shit looks like the inside of a Whole Foods.

Like, it happens. Yeah, it's different. It's different. It's nice though. Shout out Jim Jones, man. Shout out Jim Jones, shout out Cam. Shout out all the homies. Now, that is enough for this big episode three of Hawkeye, but now it's time to let the young man cook. It's time to get you clack, clack, clocked in. Locked in with Jomey and Charles. The question is, will Charles give Arcane the cosign? of a lifetime.

Fellas, take it away. I got on here last week and I preached the goodness. I preached the valor of Arcane. And you said you was going lock in.

What do you think? Jomey, I know, I know we've been at odds on this show many a time. You know, we've had a turbulent relationship,

some would say. But Jomey, Arcane is in its bag. It gets the big cosign. It gets the Coke baby Chuck cosine. It gets a Coke baby Chuck Cossine.

I binge that shit over Thanksgiving. I loved it. Like, I think I got two more episodes left. My only slander is for fucking powder and jinks. Like, fuck powder, fuck jinks, bro. She's the fucking worst. No, two slanders. Her and the Imagine Dragon's theme song, like, y'all were right.

They, like, Steve and Jomey and the group text was like, yo, Charles, like, just ignore the theme song. Like, keep watching. Just don't pay attention to it. That's just the worst, bro. Like, it almost made me shut out. It's wild, bro. It's a good show. It's a good show.

Like, Van, you got to tap in. It's beautiful. All right. So that's two. So guess what I'm going to do this weekend? Steve, give me the sound effect. I'm going to lock in. I don't appreciate how they put

black men behind bars on this show. Yeah, Steve. Steve. That's Steve. God's damn it. Steve. Steve. He's putting black men behind bars on this show.

Steve, what's going on? Steve. Wow. I mean, I'm just saying. Steve Biden. just locking up a whole generation of black men. Wow. Wow.

Taking our cool cigarettes that we trade in this prison. Wow. Is that why you trying to give us cool cigarettes? Wow. Does I talk them together? It took them. It took them. It's all coming together.

Wait a minute. I went to Steve's house and he tried to offer me some noodles. So he tried to trade me some noodles. Try to trade you some noodles or noodles. Steve's crib is now known as the commissary. Right. How do you think I got all this stuff? I know.

I know how you got it. I know how you got it. Yeah. How you got it, Steve. Steve, tough on crime. Almond. So stupid. You guys, Steve is the nicest guy.

He's nice. He's the most beautiful guy in the world. We love Almond Joy. We call him Almond Joy because he is an almond joy and also a cuddly Christmas bear. By the way, we'll tell you something else. Like so real quick, Steve, Steve and Jomey come over to the house. And whenever they do, I order too much food, right? Way too much food.

I always order way too much food when the homies come over. One of my favorite things to do is to tip Steve with the food that hasn't been eaten before he leaves. Because Steve wants it. He wants to take it. I'm really trying to cut back on eating this much. Trying to make himself not. Like, we had a whole lobster pizza from, from. berries the last time, right?

And Steve comes over and Steve is, I'm like, yo, Steve, take this pizza. Steve's like, show me you take it. I'm like, come on, you know you want that. Wimper. I didn't whimper like that. I was, I heard you whimper.

I heard you whimper. I did not whimpers. Are you trying to cut back on the carbs? Like, what's going on? Steve is the pizza dog. Steve. Piece of dog. And then I was like,

I was like, I knew that he wanted. something so these delicious cut water drinks. Oh my God. These delicious cut water cocktail in a can drinks. I was like Steve, okay, just take somebody. So, okay, I'll take him. And then he leaves and, you know, whatever.

All right, guys, that's enough. So I will lock in on Arcane. So the next time we come back, how many episodes of Arcane are there right now? There's nine. Nine. You've seen, okay, so nine. So I will lock in on Arcane.

As a matter of fact, I got a flight. I'll watch it on, I'm watching on the flight. So I will lock in on Arcane. That is a wrap for us. House of R returns with a deep dive on Hawkeye, Episode 3. A deep dive, you're not going to want to miss that. We're really tearing up. Oh, I want to shout out somebody.

I want to give a shout out to someone real quick. I want to shout out Eric Voss. Eric Voss from New Rock Stars. If you guys ever watch New Rock Stars on the old YouTube, Eric Voss shouted us out on New Rock Stars. You shout out the Ring of Verse. So I want to shout out to Eric Voss, man. Oh, shout out to Eric Voss.

Shout out to Eric Voss, New Rock Stars. Welcome to Eric. Welcome to New Rock Stars. I'm Eric Voss. We're going to take you to Deep Dive on. of Hawkeye, episode three. You know, I watch all of these things. I can do, like, all of those guys.

I love everyone who's doing that thing, who's making this community as big as it can, man. It's a great time to be a fan of fandom. All right, the Midnight Boys will be back again next week to talk about episode four of Hawkeye. Of course, it is at Riggerverse on Facebook, IG, Twitter. Join and send question, ideas, and thoughts. Special shout out.

to the best person, the best picture of Steve smoking cool cigarettes. We don't endorse cigarette smoking here, but I give you a task, Midnight riders and the Midnight Mob. Photoshop Steve smoking some cools. That's your job. I don't care what else you do. You might do some other things, and I love you. Photoshop Steve smokes some cools.

I want to see him, cools. Maybe put that LeBron James Durag on his head the whole night. There you go. All right. You put me in a wave cap. Put you in a wave cap. Put you in a wave cap. Our producer is Steve Almond Joy.

Jomi, a dinner on, hashtag free Jomi is on social media. Of course, additional production is from Arjuna Ramgapal and producer TD. Charles, take us out. Steve is hard on crime. Y'all better follow the rules. He loves him some pizza, but my man, you got to chill on the cools. Ab- That's the only thing that Star Wars is missing.

We haven't had a good lot of dogs in Star Wars. There's no dogs in space van. Why? Well, I guess there are dog species, but there's not the canines that we know from Earth. Okay, there's a huge problem with this. All right, well, what's the problem? They're humans.

Yes. So why wouldn't there be dogs? Like, why? Like, what's so if they're human beings, First of all, if Star Wars was actually real, all the guys would fucking be breathing out of their skin? It's like, well, the human beings there, if they're human beings there,

if human beings manage to find they were there, why no dogs? And, like, they got all kinds of different species. You can't, you can't have a fucking dog. A movie where the only nigga has a perm. Like, I think there's a suspension of disbelief that we have to have, okay? I don't know why there's not dogs and dogs.

First of all, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, maybe, wait a minute, Maybe he's even like, maybe that's how the black people's hair is there. You know, actually, actually that's not true. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why that's not true. I'll tell you why. He got that perm later in life.

Donald Glover didn't have that perm. Donald Glover didn't have that perm. At some point, Lando was like, whoa, you know, it'll be tight. If I laid this motherfucker down. He clearly got that in Cloud City for sure. He clearly got that in Cloud City. It's like it's easy when you're like you're a ruffian. You're doing your thing.

You got the regular hair. But he got the Cloud City. She was like, ew, I don't want. I'm about the latest motherfucker down. And then he got it laid down. Yeah, as Lando, baby. If we're going to say the ultimate failing, before we get back on track, the ultimate failing of the new Star Wars, it's that every black person in there got a fucked up

airline. There's not one barber to keep their hairlines crispy. Everybody looks. garbage, okay? Yeah, hairlines don't matter then. You know, you got to fight the empire and stuff. But there should be dogs. There's not stormtroopers that are getting lines and fades.

There are dogs. I remember reading about dogs. Maybe in legends I read about some dogs. Who needs dogs when you have droids when you have BB8, you know? I know, God damn it. Think about how great of a Star Wars story there would be if it's just a lone Jedi and his dog going throughout the galaxy doing different stuff. That's great.

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