The Ringer-Verse - Here Comes the Pitch: Animated Adaptations Edition | Mint Edition

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Steve and Jomi are joined by Jessica Clemons for another exciting edition of Here Comes the Pitch! With Netflix’s ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’ live action remake in mind, the crew pitch some of their best live action adaptations of some of the animation shows and movies you love. Host: Jomi Adeniran and Steve Ahlman Guest: Jessica Clemens Producer: Jonathan Kermah Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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But I want to get a lot of stuff out of the way first because we got so much to get into. First, programming reminders before we begin. Later today on the House of Our Feed, Mal and Joe will be giving you their deep dive into Netflix's Avatar, The Last Air Bend, boy, it's going to be great. And then we've got a doontacular week coming up for you. On Wednesday, the Midnight Boys are going to give you their Dune double feature with the 80s and current versions of Dune. Jumie, I can't wait for you to see that.

Honestly, I think you might have a great time with the 1980s Dune. Okay, well, if you don't, don't worry, because on Friday, the Midnight Boys are going to give you their instant reactions to Dune. Dune. Part two. Dune McGooley McGee McGee. Goody, great Dooney Magoonie.

Dune. But today, on today's show, we have some real fun plan for you today. In celebration, kind of, of Netflix's Avatar, The Last Airbender, Adaptation hitting Netflix this past week. We are going to give you our latest episode of a game that we like to call,

Here Comes the Pitch, animated Adaptation Edition, but in order to do that, we have a very special guest, returning once again to Mint Edition, the best person that we can do this game with and really, the queen of our hearts.

Jessica Clemonds, everybody! Jessica, how are you? I'm doing good. I watched all of Avatar, and then I started getting TikToks for Love is Blind, and I don't understand how that show still exists.

And so I'm in a weird film. Because people love mess. People are addicted to the mess. But you can't do it anymore when people just want to be celebrities, because then people come on tricking. Same thing happened with Love Island.

Oh, see, that's the same thing. You have to cut it off at like three Cs. It sucks, but I was like, how are you going to get people that don't want to just be famous off of these shows? Right. And that's what happened. They're tricking people.

They're like, I was engaged. Sike, no, I wasn't. Don't look into my backstory. Hey, buy my flat tummy T. Use code 15% for 15% off. Like, what are we doing? Damn. Dang.

We used to be a proper country, man. We used to be a proper country, man. We used to, yeah, what happened to us? We used to be good and faithful. So it's all Ronald Reagan's fault. That's actually true, look it up. That, wait, that he, that he got, that he was the reality TV boom, and that's why we're all obsessed with fame. If you go back to any, like, if you look like, man, I have a problem in this country today, you can go back to 1980, and it's Ronald Reagan's fault.

I promise you. That is actually, that's actually fact. If you like, dang, my leg hurt. Even before he became president, that it was probably his fault. It's Reagan's fault. I think he reassured us that it was his fault. Did Ronald Reagan stick the Titanic? I'm going to say, don't.

rule it out. I'm just saying you might be able to pull it back Toronto Reagan, but definitely everything after the 1980s, that's all Reagan. It's all Reagan. Good to know. All right. Well, this is, we got a great start for today's show. It's true. History 101. Oh, boy. So,

today we are going to come to you and give you a great game of Here Comes the Pitch. Animation Adaptation Edition. We're so excited because we saw the last Airbender on Netflix. We love the Last Avatar cartoon. We don't love the Netflix adaptation. We have varying thoughts, you could say.

Jess, me and Steve talked about how we felt about it on the last Midnight Boys. How do you feel about the live action Netflix Avatar series? I gave it, okay, I gave it a six because I'm very, when I say mid, I mean in the actual sense, not in the like cool term mid, I'm very middle ground about it. I think it's, I lean more, I like it more than I hate it. I think people are blowing that out of proportion. I would agree so as well. Like, I think that the pros outweigh the cons, just barely. But it's, you know, does it justify its existence?

Probably not. When I recommend it over the original show? Never. Oh, never. Yeah, but. People are, like, comparing it to the 2010. And I'm like, that's not in the same. That bars in hell for that. That is insane for you to come and look at me in the face right now and say this is just as bad as that one.

No, that's not. And I think that's why my spectrum is so what it is. Eileen more I like it is because people are making me do this. Yeah. They're making me. We literally would have, if we were to compare those, the three, we have like an 11 out of 10. We have a 0.5 out of 10. And then we have something in the middle here.

Like, we're fine. We're very fine. Spoiless for pretty much every property that we're going to mention today, which is a lot. But before we begin our game, we want to continue this conversation about what makes a good live action adaptation. What are the things we like? What are the things we don't like? since we've fallen in love with cartoons, and we say cartoons in a non-derogatory term,

just animation in general, some of these shows, some of these movies have been adapted many a times. Disney has the likes of it. Lots of swings, lots of misses. Jess, I want to start with you. What makes a good adaptation? Give me some examples of the things that you loved about

some of the shows and movies that you've loved and what makes a good live-action adaptation. That's a good question. It's a big question because I don't think there personally is an anime like adaptation to live action that has happened that I'm like, this is supreme. I love this.

I like when they adapt the manga's more, but when it comes to like video games, I think they did a great job. You already like mentioned this, but Detective Pikachu, I think, did a good job because you're taking these main characters and put it in a world that's not their own and that's things that you can do for a movie. That's how Sonic worked also. It's just like,

oh, take that main character, throw it into a world it's not actually existing in and we can make the comedy from that and it works. Because it's not adapted in the actual physicality of the video game, it's just like, here's this character. So I'm like, those are my two best examples of adaptations because he just have to take that character

and put it in a weird role. But like, with Avatar, it's different because those create lore, fan base, and dedication that can't be altered. And when you have to shift things enough, it upsets a tide. And it's very interesting

because like the Netflix adaptation of Avatar, I've said that it's very aware, of the things that it does not want to get wrong and the things that it wants to get right. 100%. And it's very committed to wanting to get those things at least as accurate as possible. But I feel like in getting tripped up,

it becomes a little devoid of its own personality of what makes it great. Yes. So Jomey, what I said. I agree. I was like, I wish you guys would have got your own footing instead of trying. You nailed it so hard that they had to redo.

They were like, they're going to yell at us. And I was like, okay, I get it. But now we don't know. This is just like, you didn't take everything. It's a paint by numbers story that we've seen before. And that was my thing with it. It was like, all right, I've seen this before. And y'all are not doing it at the same level as the first joint.

So why am I here at all? And also don't take out pieces if you're going to do the exact same thing that you already did in the, I don't know. That was the only part that I was like, this is weird. The parts that you took, like, him having a journal and him doing this, those are little things that don't matter. Like, you could have left it out and it would have still forwarded the story. And the thing is, there are some things that do matter. Like, for example, finding out that the battalion that Zucco is serving with on the boat are the people he saved and got a scar from. That's great. That's great.

More time with Iro and Zucco before they left. Great. But it's just so far and few between. It's like, okay, cool. If y'all, like, had really gotten into this stuff every single episode, they're like, hey, man, y'all, y'all cooking right now. It was just not enough. And I think that's a great example about what these light of action adaptations can actually bring to the table that's not. and interesting that it may or may not even just be untrotted ground that the original show or property had.

Like, Jomi, we've had a lot of like Disney adaptations of classic animated movies. We've had so many like weird live action adaptations of like children's cartoons that may or may not have missed the mark. When it misses, what do you think is probably something

that ultimately is lost in the sauce? When these things go wrong, it's one or two, what's one of two things, and they're both on the opposite, opposite eyes of the spectrum. It's when you lean way too much into what you, what the original was, and it's when you completely forget what the original was.

Right. Right. So if you just go, like, again, average, if you go pay by numbers, we're just going to run it back for y'all, we don't give you hits, and it's like, cool, there's not really much new stuff here.

It's kind of boring. I've seen this before. Next. then you get the other side or the like, forget everything you knew about this thing. It's new. It's adult. And we're going to change it for a new audience.

And you're like, oh, y'all, y'all lost the plot. This has nothing to do. Y'all just put the name on there. Literally both editions of the Avatar Live Action stuff, the first one would be like leaning too much into it. And the movie would be just like, ah, forget it. We're changing names. We're changing stories.

We're just going crazy with it. And it's like, neither of these things, are, nearly these things have what makes this thing special. It loses all the heart and the emotion

and the feeling you get watching the original thing and it's like, what was the point? Well, I think it's hard to, that's why I'm like, it's hard to adapt things like this

because even like not to be, yes, I think they could have made like a better story but I also is like the first season is 20 episodes how are you going to make that

into eight episodes one hour apiece but also translated for live action. The same goes for Mortal Kombat. The same goes for like all of these things that were adapted that it's like, that's too much lore. So maybe the trick is taking something that doesn't have such a heavy,

heavy fucking load to like carry. But it's like, because it's like, they tried so hard to appease the fans. They did. They were like, remember this? I gave it to you. I had to go in and like, there was a million and two Easter eggs in that damn show. They put in everything you could think. They packed in as much as they could.

And to varying degrees of effectiveness. It was weird. I was like, I feel like I get. it on paper, it looked like you guys did the right thing, but then, like, I just wasn't as invested emotionally until the Zucco and Iro episodes. That was the only time. And even then, I was like, ooh, Zucco's sassy. So when we have, like, a bunch of lore to cram into a show, an adaptation, a lot of things can either get lost in the sauce, or we just have a bunch of Easter egg member berries types of things that we want to try to hit so that we can play to the fans that actually

would want to appeal of this. There's also been other adaptations that don't really have a lot of lore and they tried to build a story whole cloth out of it to different degrees. I want to throw out an example here. Jim Carrey's How the Grinch stole Christmas. Now, we can have our own thoughts about this. Do we like this, first of all? Yes.

Where we kind of like, okay, this is based off of like a 15, 20 minute Chuck Jones cartoon. Exactly, though. And then we build an hour and a half long movie around it. Yeah. But we end up liking that, A, because of the absolute star power of Jim Carrey, that's undeniable.

Second of all, we try to make our own little story about Christmas and fun fleshing out of a Dr. Sussian world that looks like a theme ride adaptation. Can we think of something that has really not a lot to do with the original while still actually maintaining some of the heart? That's the part that I'm like, yeah,

it's based off a 15-minute movie where they use those They use maybe every line in that 15 minute movie in the Jim Carrey one in like a little Easter eggs. In the last 20 minutes. Yeah.

Because they can. Because I'm like yeah, there's not a lot of things behind that that's like taking the peanuts, doing anything for the peanuts, doing anything for Charlie Brown. It's like yeah, this was originally like a Sunday news comic

so we can just do whatever the hell we kind of want. We just got to make sure that this one is still kicking a football. This one is working as a psychiatrist. They're all weirdly, mentally unwell. Yeah. Well, but you mentioned,

like that's the kind of stuff that makes sonic work that makes the type of Pikachu work is when you take the essence, like the emotion and the ethos of a character or property, and you put it into a new thing that not only keeps the feeling of that property of those characters intact, but also gives a new, it breathes new life into the property, you know? And that's the kind of stuff that, like, can work. We've seen it work a lot. y'all don't kill me for this but I like Speed Racer

I love Speed Racer it's bright and it's I don't need to see no hey Listen The Wachowski like I will never ever ever say the Wachowski You big Wachowski you big Wachowski I'm big Wichowski I like I'll never say the Wachowski Regardless of whether or not you even like those movies I'll even say the Jupiter descending they tried a lot

In that movie and they tried their damnedest In Speed Racer Oh yeah To make it an absolute Blockbuster. I personally loved it. And it's a lot of like bringing visual animation flair to the idea

of live action that is ultimately ridiculous. You'd never think about like, okay, we're going to make Speed Racer but we're really going to honor the sentiment of what anime is in the 60s. And to varying degrees of success, I think that, like,

I really respect that. I mean, that sounds like Herbie fully loaded. Oh. Just like Kirby. fully loaded. It's about a car. There's four of them in the 60s, and now it's about Lindsay Lohan in love with the car.

I'll bring it to, if you can give Herbie fully loaded a chance, definitely give Speed Racer a chance. I didn't want to give it a chance. I was just like, I love Lindsay Lohan. Respect. Herbie fully loaded, one, and two, Lindsay Lohan had a run. Oh, undeniable.

You know, parent trap. Running those. Confections of a teenage drama queen. Parent trap. Meant girl. I said Perky Friday. Freaky Friday. That's what I meant.

Pair and trap. Confessions of a teenage drama queen. Parent trap. Again. Life size. Brother. Mean girls, obviously. Mean girls.

Come on. Yeah. And people want to say, like, you can't really count every fully loaded. It's kind of like winning like four back to back chips and then winning an IST championship. You know what I'm saying? It's not the same. But if you know, you know, you know. But we love all of those things.

And even the ones that aren't that great, they're still worth having conversations. over. And if you want to listen to more of a conversation like that, feel free to check out on the Ringer Podcast Network, Trial by Content, hosted by Joanna Robinson, Dave Gonzalez, and Neil Miller, where they debated the worst animated adaptations brought to the silver screen. Boy, was that a fun one. But let's get to the pitches now. This episode is brought to you by WeatherTech. Everyone knows winter is the MVP and making a mess. You don't need WeatherTech floor liners in the summer, unless you hit the beach or go camping, then you'd want a cargo liner

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Visit weathertech.com today. All right. So here comes the pitch. One of our favorite games to play here. it's going to be a little bit like last time with our wonderful musical picks but each of us will be making two picks that we divulge beforehand

with what we think will make a great property to be adapted into live action. We'll also be choosing the platform of either film, TV, as well as like the hosting platform that this could go on. Netflix, Apple TV Plus, all those great things along with some of the plot lines,

stars potentially, and who may be directing such a great film or TV series. So with that, going around the horn. Jessica Clemens. Why don't you start us off? Okay. Do you want the nice version or a dramatic one?

Oh, give us the dramatic. Oh, please give us dramatic. Please. Okay. My goodness. So the first thing that I would be adapting, is it okay if it's TV or movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, perfect. This one I want to adapt, I want to make a movie. All right. And this is for recess. A lovely cartoon. We all love recess. We all love recess. Obviously, we should all go back and rewatch it,

because I'm sure it still holds up. The Ashley's forever. Regardless, this one's a little different. Okay. They're in college. Oh. Fast forward and in time. Is there recess in college?

Well, okay, the title's going to change. Is it called the quad now? What is it? Guys, let me finish. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Study break. It's called freshman 15. Is it?

No, stop. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Okay, so they're in college now. But they're all still friends, and they meet up once a year in the summer when they come back from college to go help at the camp at the camp camp counselors. And also the other fellow councilors are other kids from recess, like the Ashley's or that one kid that has all the sneaky things that they're stealing all the time in his jackets.

Oh, right, right, right, yeah. So everybody else meets, they're all friends. No one hates each other. They're adults that are just like trying to get back or young adults trying to get back. But then a counselor goes. missing. They don't know where they are. They go look for them and they find them dead in the forest.

Jesus Christ. Oh my God. And now the gang has now have to Scooby-Doo their way into finding out who's killing everybody. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And this is a horror thriller movie. So you're avoiding a Scooby-Doo remake, which already exists. But, hear me out. You know how Scooby-Doo, they all have their own little, like, they're like, we all have to work together, we all have to split up.

This one, they don't really all have skills that are separate from. each other. One's really good at sports. One's a military brat. One's a scientist. So it's all of them actually just being friends being like, what the hell's going on? And it's done with the Ashley's, with everybody else, trying to figure it out. But they're all dying one at a time. I would love, okay. So it's more like, uh, not Friday the 13th. It is more like Friday the 13th. So has anybody seen Werewolves Within starring Sam Richardson and directed by Josh Rubin? Yes. It's, you're reminding me a little bit of that where it's like a murder mystery movie.

Yes. but it's played for laughs in a sort of a comedic way because people are kind of inept and they're just trying to figure shit out and they're relying on old skills that they used to have that don't really work out. Because they're like, well, we did this when we were kids. This could clearly work now, right?

But when we're nearly grown-ass adults. So here's my thing. Right. And I think I mentioned it a little earlier, but I think I want to really harp on this. It's not recess. It isn't recess. Without recess.

No. You know what I'm saying? You know how like when they had the movies for recess, it was called recess, schools out, or recess summer forever. Did you watch the movies? The recess schools out was when there was the summer and the principal was trying to make it snow forever. So they would never go back to school. Which is insane. Insane.

So it would be like recess, like summer vacation. It would be like recess teen years or whatever. It would be like recess would be the tagline and then it would be underneath like what they're doing. Okay. So, okay. So it would be like they're all coming together. Like, hey, guys, remember that one time from 10, 10.10 a.m. to 10.40 a.m. When we would have that break in the middle of the day and we would go.

And sometimes some of us would eat a second breakfast. Or some of us might go hoop or something. Remember those times at the playground at recess? Everybody points to the screen. There you go. And we're like, whoa! There you go. I was imagining we start with them like the final episode of recess.

And then they just go onto the bus and they go to their different houses. But then when they get off the bus, they're at the camp and it's them as adults. Okay. Interesting. Okay. So do they not talk for like 30 years or something? They just don't talk because they're busy with school. Vince is a basketball player at school.

Gus is now in the military and everyone is just busy. And so they don't talk that much. But this is the time they get to come back every summer back home and they go to their camp that they used to go to become camp. Because here's the thing. Obviously this is, I think the most unrealistic thing about this movie is to me the funniest, where it's like, how could all of these people possibly reunite for the same summer in the same camp, in the same neighborhood, in the... That's the fun part.

That is the fun part. That is the fun part about horror movies. And I don't like name-dropping people. And this isn't really a name-drop. But one of my friends, Brennan Lee Mulligan, has been a stay. He is a camp counselor at his LARP camp that he went to ever since he was a child. And he still goes there with all his fellow friends and now they're camp counselors. That's very sweet.

That's like 50% or shared portions of the camp. And I'm like, yeah, that's not actually that ridiculous. I used to, when I was in college, I used to go back to my camp to council for it because I just like being a camp counselor. That's awesome. Okay. It's very sweet. So it is possible. Just as a giver and we're not, clearly.

Yeah. Why don't you guys give to children? I don't go to camp. I don't like going outside like that. I kind of feel like. So here's the thing. We came from hunters and gatherers who had to live outside. They had a, they didn't have a choice.

Like, I'm not doing, I'm not going back, Jessica. I got a choice. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Like, we got indoor plumbing. Electricity. I'm not asking you to hunt. And I'm not saying I'm gathering.

A bed and a blanket. And you want me to go outside and sleep on the ground? Who said you sleep on the ground? Have you ever been to a camp? Well, camping. You know, I'm sure y'all got camping. You know, I'm sure it's cold in there, huh? And you got to walk outside.

You got to go pee in the middle of night. You got to go outside to the outhouse. Yeah. We're not going to talk about this. Y'all got it. No, no one's got it. You stay in like a log cabin and there's like bunk beds. And there's like a...

Have you seen wet on American summer? Joe's a clamper. I'm a grower. A glamper, brother. I will go on a hike. I will go see the wilderness. I'll go see a beautiful waterfall. Think about how lucky we are to share this earth.

And then go inside to the Wi-Fi. Thank you. You still get the Wi-Fi. Camps have now upgraded to like being for everybody. Yeah, they got routers in the RV. Really quick. Let me just say, Mike. casting and then we can move on.

Yes. We can move on because this was this was a soft pitch. My really hard, good pitch is the next pitch. I saved the best for last year. This is starring

Isabella Merced from Madam Webb because she did a great job in Madam Webb. I just think the things around her were not that great. I think the two POC actresses did okay jobs.

Everybody else did bad. I think they were great. And I want to give her another chance. I'm glad that you're giving them another shot. I like, well, there are scenes I was like, I like this part. I didn't know you thought, I didn't know you thought Dakota Johnson was a POC.

That's crazy. Oh, wow. I should leave. You're right. Just just made a slipping on a banana peel sound effect. Isabel Mersenli. Gann Mazzarro from Stranger Things as T.J. Okay.

Caleb McLaughlin as Vince. Oh, okay. Strangers, there's a reunion. Yes, I know. Those are the only two. Maisie Williams as Gretchen. Mm. Uh-huh.

And my Gus is Sydney Sweeney. Shut up. No, no, no, I see what you're doing. I see what's a vision. You remember how this is not a good example, but Lizzie McGuire and Cadet Kelly, that's how I imagining Sidney Sweeney, but actually imagine if like by the end of Cadet Kelly

where she was like, I'm actually serious about this, that's how I imagine Sydney Sweeney. Just like, I'm just doing this because my entire family did this and I'm carrying on the tradition. I see. Here's the thing, Jess. You don't have to explain anything to me.

I get it. You want to attract an audience. Oh, that too. Yeah, you want box office. You want, you want eyes. You want views. I get it. That's why I always cast Shamelay and Zandaya.

Timotee. Timotee. Timote. Timothea. And Zandaya and all of them. From his pew, man, I want people to come to the theater, baby. You know what I'm saying?

I get the, I see the vision. Okay. So, Jomi, it's now your turn. Give us the Ben 10 movie with the cast of Dune. See, see, here's a ding. Because- With the worm included Because you joke

But Tim as a As Ben 10 Shut up You know That's not gonna cook I would be their day one Timothy is too Pretty

You know what I'm saying Like Ben is still like convention Like he's a normal boy Yeah but Timothy is like Look at my cheekbones I'm a model I date Kylie Jenner Ben 10 would never

The problem with the Ben 10 Pick is already did Live Action adaptation Ben 10 Rates Against Time. Anybody seen it? No? Absolutely not. Just me?

Dang, that's unfortunate. I mean, here's the thing. Did it hold up to a good adaptation by our standards? Probably not. I haven't seen it in 30 billion years, but it was probably not good. I'm going to follow Jess and do like my so-so pitch before I get into my strong pitch. I'm going to go with show, I'm talking about a lot, love to the end of the earth, Young Justice. Now, you're proud of saying, Jomey, we've seen Titans.

Yes Or some of the lucky ones who haven't Listen I mean This is not bad It's like the same thing Where like they do the whole thing We're like oh we're going to go so far away From this the store's going to be so different

You're like all right cool these are not these guys They just share names But I'm thinking I want to keep things pretty similar I've talked about this I don't want to change too much One thing I do want to enhance

Or maybe like dive more into during my live action, a 10 to 12 episode series are the relationships between the sidekicks. Oh, okay. Okay. Because the show does over, I think the first season of like 26 episodes. And by the way,

we're sticking to the OG6. Okay. I love, you know, Tim Drake, I love Impulse. Blue Beatles, my guy. You feel me? We're going to keep y'all on the bench. You know what I'm saying? We're going to keep here. We're not, we know what I'm saying? If this thing goes like

two, three seasons. Maybe y'all come through. You know, but we're really sticking to, like, season one of the series. Okay. And then the stuff in between season, season two, or between season one, season two. Because they, like, have, like, a five-year jump.

And while that's hard, there's just too many characters to get involved with, you know what I'm saying? Right. But ultimately, like, the relationships between McGahn and Superboy and, like, the OG3 with Akulad, Kid Flash, and Robin, their relationship. Artemis coming to the team.

Like, they're kids. They're, like, teenagers. And they got to, like, risk their lives. How many nights a week for the Justice League or whatever? Because they won't want to be heroes so bad. How does that affect, like, their schoolwork, their interpersonal relationships, their relationship with their parents? You know, Artemis has the thing with her dad's a super villain and her sister's

a supervillain, but she's trying to be good, hiding that secret from everybody. Superboy, he's his dad, half his DNA is Lex Luthor. How does that make him feel? again is an alien from Mars that looks a little different than most aliens do she's really scared uh oh how does that make

all those interactions spend more time with those characters get to love them get to really understand them and sometimes I got to go fight bad guys but really they're just kids who want to go to school and have fun and you know I mean be superheroes but also like just be young what is the other shows that gave the show inspiration

Like what is the framing kind of look like? I don't want to, I don't want to, because I'm off the set and I do my whole thing. I think you did this on purpose. No, I just want to know. It's kind of, hmm, you set me up. Put them on the spot now. You set me up.

I didn't mean to. I just want to know if this is like Titans. No, or this is like a CW show? No, it's not a CW show. It's a, I mean, it's a Max show, unfortunately, because they own the rights to it. That is true. It has to be a Mac show. I mean, does the show?

the tone that you're going for fit on max. Of course. Of course. Again, it's not like, we're not going to do like super gory. It's not about that. It's not about shock value. It's about the relationships between the people and people. Now, I say you set me up because the reason this stuff, like, it's not like a one-to-one

because they're not going to school. But to get this agenda off. Agents to Shield, baby. You know, like, you spend so much time with those people and what they want and how they feel about each other and things like that. So where like whatever they got to go off to space or whatever, you're locked in because, oh, I know these characters' motivations. I know like what, I know why they do what they do and what makes them tick.

So when I see a situation occurring, it's like, oh, oh, how will so-and-so, how will McGahn react to finding out that Superboy is out there talking to one girl in his homeroom class? You know what I'm saying? Because I know that she's got the hots from, you know what I'm saying? or if a kid flash she's McGahn and Superboy paired up on a mission. Like, yo, I'm trying to holler out at us. Oh, man, I'm going to miss my shot. You feel me?

Like, it's not all relationships, but things like that that makes characters tick, I think would be interesting to spend some more time with in a live action sense. Drama. Drama. I love so. Kern put me on X-Men Evolution, right? He was like, bro, you got to lock in. Dude, you do.

And I did. And they do a great job of. balancing like the, you know, the superhero aspect with the little like teen drama stuff. That's the stuff I love when characters are able to like be themselves. And it's not only about, I got to go save the word. I got to do this. Also got to live. You got to be human beings.

There's stuff you want. That's not about being a superhero. It's not about being like kicking bad guys. It's all about, man, I want to take her to the dance. Sometimes it's that simple, you know? And I like that. I wish we could explore more of that in my Young Justice television series. Again, 10 to 12 episodes, maybe, you know, probably like 45, 58 minutes each.

You know, I do think it'll cost a pretty penny because, again, shape shifting and all the water stuff for Aquabby doing and the kid flash running stuff. You know, but ultimately, I think we got some good. Now, let me get to my cast real quick. We've got Max Charles's Robin, Asher Angel, the Superboy. You know, got to need somebody who's like a little tall, a little big, feel me? Percy Jackson, Walter Scoville as his kid Flash. Oh, that's cute. That's good.

Abraham Adda as Aquilad. I don't know if he's the guy from, what's it called, Spider-Man Homecoming in the Fort where he rings the bell. He's that kid. Right, right, right. Karen Shipka as McGahn and Mackenzie Zegler as Artemis. You chose like actual It's weird Yeah no I think that's fine

I think it's good I mean Kieran N plays such old now That I'm always like Seeing her as an old person Yeah that's true But she is a very young person Yeah

It's also hard to cast young people It's very hard to cast young people We watch like Percy Jackson's the only thing I watch it has actual kids We're not watching agents like this Yeah There's probably like a whole bunch of talented kids I don't know what they're at

Yeah Yeah that's why I was like I probably would have gone with Ziegler as well I would have gone with Jojo Siwa She's older She's like She's not my age But she's like

I don't know She's like 5-9 Joe-0 Joe-shewa? Yeah she's 5-9 Wow You couldn't have You couldn't have

You couldn't have got that information out of me I never would have known that I never would have known that No think about it When you see her next to people She's like giant I'm never going to see Jojo

Shewa next to anybody Ever I'm not like Yo where's Joe I don't follow her Instagram She's at like Award shows I think there's like a photo

Of her next to Megan and they're the same height Megan who? The stallion Megan who else Who else? They running in the same circles? No, she just, like, was a fan, and she ran up to her.

Like a normal. Which Megan? I don't know who not talk about that, Megan. Megan Good. She just spritching the people. Megan Good. She's running around with Megan Fox. All that.

Okay, yeah, I can see that. That makes sense. No, that makes sense. No, that makes sense. Megan the stallion. What did they got to come? No, no. She just ran up to her a photo, like a normal fucking kid one.

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All right. That's just the easiest call for Netflix to make. I'm afraid of you touching this. Who are you casting in this? Well, first of all, who are you casting in this? All right, bro. It's not getting it. Why? Why? What's wrong?

Not taking this seriously, man. What do you are not taking this seriously? You don't think that could... Bro, I'm looking at your, I'm looking at your laptop right now. You got the, you got the Netflix board on your laptop right now. and they're like, oh, they like this blue-eyed samurai joint. Let's make that thing live action. I mean, first of all, like, I have no news of it actually becoming one,

but we could easily call it that that's probably a good success story, right? So this is coming. We're going to get the news in July at Comic-Con. Blue-Ey Samurai Live Action, coming to you live in 2028. Steve's going to come out with the Kevin Feigy hat, and it's going to be. You've never seen this right now. Here comes the time, law. The Blue-Eyed Samurai timeline coming in 2027.

Yeah, phase one. Phase one. Blue-Ey Samurai. Movie two, coming in later. Peaches, right? It's just the whole thing. Hold on, though. Hold on, Jess.

Netflix is listening right now. Right. Netflix is their big fans of what we do here, Thringaverse. Shout out Netflix. Steve, pitch your Blue-Ey Samurai Flag of Action series to Netflix right now, go. Well, it's very easy.

You take what you did for Avatar The Last Airbender. and you just calm down. Okay, 100% easy. You just calm down and try to emulate what's going to be coming out from a new FX show called Shogun. All right? I knew what I was going on. I got a Shogun agenda that I'm trying to get off right now.

We got political intrigue. All right. Great Wandering Samurai narrative. Great action. It was made by stunt people anyway. All of those, like they filmed those stunt scenes in live action. and then rotoscoped and actually adapted them into animation. Who's to say you can't do the same?

All of those things are achievable, intimate sets. Just take them into the forest. A lot of it's done. I'd say we take this into like a one or two-parter season split because we have a lot of ground to cover. We have a lot of like stories to adapt here. I think it's kind of a layup for Netflix to do. I think it's a great like business decision.

and I think it's something that I could actually translate pretty well. How about I give you the cast? You have to stick with your cast because Netflix will take it and then put Sidney Sweeney as the main cast. And that's where I will go crazy. Wow.

That's why I'll lose my fucking shit. I'm going to cross out Scarlet Johansson right there. Hey, you! No, that's crazy. That's crazy. The absolute first thing that I thought of. Brendan Gleason

is our wonderful villain. Our heroine. Jessica Henwick. Yeah, I like Jessica Henwick. We love Jessica Henwick out here. Ken Watanabe. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Easy.

Got him in everything. Put him in everything. Ringo. Our man in the chair, Jacob Baldwin. From Spider-Man. Oh, okay. Yes. Oh, Jacob.

Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, I need to see him in more stuff. Yeah, you got to do more stuff. He's good. He's great. And Ming Nal Wen. Of course.

Yes. Of course. I absolutely love, like, so many good actors here. We, I think the one thing that Avatar did is like, okay, Daniel Day Kim, you're flexing on us too much. Who, we. Oh, dude. Him and Ken, Ken Luong? Yeah.

Oh, my God. I loved his Zhao. His Commander Zhao. Jiao was great. I was like, he's. So, he's. I don't need mid-50s. Dan and Day Kim

absolutely stunting on me at the gym right now. I said, I almost cried. I was wheat. I said, that man's so fine. He's going crazy. It's disgusting. He was cooking. But no, I think that blue-eyed samurai

actually makes for a great, it treats itself as seriously as a live action show because it has all of that intrigue and all of that amazing plot. And then action, Jess, you're making a sour-posed face. I made a face because I just realized

who you were casting the guy from band. Ganges of Intersh Sharon as and I don't want to see him Be evil? Be evil? I kind of feel like he looks like an evil dude. I love it.

No, I don't want to see him orgasamine. Was that not? Yo. That's what he doesn't. He does do that. So here's the thing, right? And this is why I'm glad we're having this conversation right now. Because you could just like not do that.

That's what you said. When you said tone it down, I was hoping you meant like all of his scenes. No, I meant calm it down as in like maybe don't do everything the show does. Yeah. And like just get the vibes right. 100%. I think it somehow still needs to speak culturally to whatever's happening. But yes.

As for our villain having to or, no, we don't need that. No, not that culturally. You don't need that. I don't need that ever again. No, I need him talking to Jesus and being like, you know, maybe I make this whole country in your image. If I win this. His monologue while taking apart like the piano and turning into a musket gun is I would like to see that. That's raw as hell.

That's super great. All right. We're back around. Jessica Clements, give us your so very serious. So very amazing, bitch. No orgasms in this one. We will be the judge of that. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Okay. My second property is Danny Phantom. Another classic. One that we really, really, really, really love. He's a Phantom. He's a Phantom.

Phantom. Danny Phantom. Phantom. So this plot line, after entering the ghost portal, as we know, and acquiring half ghost abilities, he's able to cross between both. spirit and the mortal worlds is for people that never saw Danny Phantom. Right.

You get this in the intro of the song. Yes, the classic Nickelodeon show. Danny spends the rest of his life happily married to Sam still performing his heroic duties, having a daughter, being great. It's revealed that Danny Phantom suffered from a radiation while entering the prototype machine that his parents built. And he is now dead in this series from an unknown uncurable disease. And now all that is left in the world is his daughter who has now,

has now also got the powers of the half-ghosts, half-human abilities, and she is entering the spirit realm to go find her dad. Oh. Like the go-zone? The ghost zone.

Sorry. I said, too much Avatar. Jessica, I need you to take this seriously, and it is called the ghost zone. It's the ghost zone. Not chalk zone, but the ghost zone. So she, because she misses her dad,

she takes it upon herself to go into their basement, take the sheet off of the machine, turn it on and walk through it into the ghost. All right. So this is like a, uh, oh man, what's that,

what's that Robin Williams movie where he's trying to look for his son in the flubber. This is flubber. No. I was like this kind of, after you said it kind of reminds me of wrinkle in time. Oh, okay.

Yeah. There is no saving. Well, I mean, spoilers. There is no saving her dad. Her dad is dead and she is going to have to learn to mourn like a normal. Jesus Christ. This is like what dreams may come.

This is your, this was your white, happy one? I said this was my dark one. I told you, I was like, this one, the light happy one was, my other version for recess was just literally recess with young kids. Like redoing recess as a live action, but just children. Instead, I did the horror movie that I wanted. This one is literally a drama, not drama, it's drama half comedy because when she gets into the spirit or the go zone,

she finds all those ghosts that are very fun, very great, very bad, and she defeats them or becomes friends with them, like things that Danny did when he was a child just to go find her dad. into the spirit world, or the spirit goes zone. Okay, so what do you think is the most challenging thing about selling people on this? Because this is picking up exactly after a story is left off. So you gotta have, you gotta know that people need to know this, the ending of this last show, right?

Yes. Okay. Well, yes. And yeah, so they'll probably, even in the trailers, we'll show that last episode where he's like in the Arctic and whatever and all the ghosts are coming out of the ground. Yeah, so that's like, that's like, this is like the prolog. Yes.

So you have to like basically onboard the audience. surrogate with his daughter. Have you watched the new anime on HBO called Ninja. I saw the first episode and it was like a lot. It was a lot. It was a lot. But what I did like was they did the beginning half was like him with his family. This is what it's like.

And I kind of want that. I'm like, we're seeing him raise with Sam because everyone's like, oh, we wonder what happened to Tucker. What happened to Sam? What happened to the family? And we see it. But he's also like slowly fading. Okay. And then by the middle of the first episode, he's gone.

And she's sad and she's beside herself. But she's always had these abilities. So, question, is her name also Danny Phantom? No. Oh. Do you want to know what her name is? What's her name? Danielle.

I fuck. And she goes like Danny with an eye. That's cook. You cook it. I like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that.

I don't like that. I don't want that. Right. Danny Phantom is going to be played by Chase Crawford. Okay. All right. So too much a dip on the chair. Sam, Sam.

Sam. Sam. Sam. Well, he doesn't show up really until the beginning. I need you to nail this Sam casting, though. Sam is, I can't pronounce her name, but I know what she is. Alexandria da Dario? Oh, yeah.

Alexander Dadario, yes. Tucker is Daniel Curtis Lee. And if you don't know who Daniel Curtis Lee, that's... Cookie. Yeah, cookie from Nesda classified, because I want him to come back and I want him to do great things. So I want him to be in this. Danny's daughter is Emily Carey from House of the Dragon. Oh, okay, yeah.

And then Ember, if you remember, the rock star. Star Ghost is played by Dove Cameron. Okay, lock in. Who's playing jazz? Oh, the sister? Yeah. I didn't put her in it. Oh, jazz's not in there?

No. Jazz can't mourn her brother? I was going to have the dad and the mom and they're really old. And maybe the sister went off to go do it. Because she was always like really smart trying to do a bunch of other bigger things. So maybe that. But I wanted the focus to be more on Emily Carrick, like Danny, Danielle Phantom. So you're saying that Danny Phantom's parents have to mourn their son.

Mm-hmm. Because they never went through it, but he did. And it was a prototype machine, so it's like no one knows the effects that it leaves on someone. And we're obviously going for a happy ending here. She finds her father. And it's like, he's like, I can't go. And then they, but I'm guessing he's got like a,

what, like a, like a, like a Tron legacy, just like Zen beard. And like he's, Crawford with his Zen beard. Right, yeah. And like he's all robed out. He's like, no, I must stay. Yeah, he's like, I got to stay.

You can't take me out. So she has the ghost powers right. So, like, so she has snow white hair and glowing through her eyes. Yes. She can walk through walls, disappear, and fly. She's a lot more unique than the other guys. And girls. And girls.

And girls. Yes. I like how you just say, and girls. And girls. That's how you got to change. I chose, and also I chose Chase Crawford because I was going through a list in my head of like, very, I love Danny Fandem. I had a crush on him. We all did.

But I was like, yeah. Time on all. Not all of us. Sorry. The collective us. Most of us. Yes. Most of us.

Almost said some crazy. Let me stop. You know exactly what I'm talking about. I know exactly what you are. I hate you. I hate you. Stop. No, but I was thinking, I was like, I have to get kind of in the most respectful way, kind of a generic white boy actor that's in over 30 under 40.

And it was like him, Joseph Gordon Levitt. Like, I was thinking about it, but then he's like, next to Alexander. I was like, no, she's like. a woman and for some reason Joseph Gore-Levitt still reminds me of a young boy when he like even though he's like an adult man he's just a guy but he's like he reminds me of um literally oh my god Elijah would like I don't know why but I to me oh I don't know about that they're just they like Toby McGuire too I'm like they kind of just remind me of their young selves too much but I was like I only know Chase Crawford and Theodore James for what they are now and then I

was going to put Theodore James but I was like I don't think he'd want to do this you can have the dude who plays the dude who plays four from Divergent Oh, he was in what you call it The White Lotus Yeah Which one?

Theodore James Is that him? That's who I said Theo James Oh, that's his name? Theo James He's never heard of no Theodore He's up

He goes through He's going by his Christian name He's beautiful I was thinking about him too And then But then I was also like Realistically I was like

He probably wouldn't do it A B He's too like He's too Henry Cavalish in the face. He's so chiseled, man, that I was like, no, he's unconventional, like a dad, like what John Hamm was in 2011. Like, I need that. Right, right, right, right. I think, I honestly think you should have cast Elijah Wood and then have somebody come in and be like, do you wear wigs?

Have you worn wigs? Will you wear wigs? When do you wear wigs? I love that interview. Is it so funny? No. No, like, did Elijah Wood know it was a joke? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I thought it was serious. Yeah. He just breaks. Dominique. Monagie. He's just in a silly accent.

Winviluvavet. Men viduvervigs. Well, that's my Danny. Mr. Wood. Mr. Wood. Nah, I think, I mean, frankly, Danny Phantom should have ran for a thousand seasons. It got a couple. It got like three or four.

I mean. I have the full thing on DVD. On DVD. You're locked in. I still have it. The box set. You're locked in. Hey, physical media is up right now.

Shout out to box sets, man. My PlayStation is a disc list. I bought one, too, and I'm so. Wait, wait, wait. And then my PC don't have that. I'm going to do something. I've never done before. I'm going to call y'all broke.

I got the disc, baby. Get your money up. You're going to let him call me up. You're going to let him call me that, Kurt? Yeah. Turn off his mic. I got the disc version, baby. You feel me?

You know what I did? I bought the Spadaverse of Blu-ray, and I slid that baby in and press play. You know what I'm talking about? I'm going to run up in your house and step on that. Some people make millions. Other people make memes. Clearly.

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Okay, they're here. This is for a Netflix streaming home release. I am going to open up my heart and be very honest with you guys. This is like one of the, I don't know say most important, but those are the time of my life where I didn't watch anything from this genre,

anything in this area. And this was the first anime I watched, literally like the first anime. Well, actually, not true. That's not true. I watched Leon Genesis Evangelion. I was like,

I love this, but I also hate it. There's a part of it that I would like to see more. And the first one of first anime, like, I guess, showed you anime that I watched, that I, like, fell in love with the genre, is Toradora. Oh. And I want to make a live action.

Toradora that just fills my heart with glee and joy Is that the one with the little girl? Well, don't say that She's short, yes She's short, she shorts My bad.

Flip it, reverse it. Is that the one with the shorter girl? Yes, that's the one with Taiga and Riyuzi And the premise for anybody who hasn't watched it is it's these two characters who cannot be more different from each other. But her friend is his crush and his friend is her crush. So they make a pact and they're like, hey, help, let's help each other get with our crushes. And of course,

like all romantic comedies, they find out that they have more in common with each other than they have with their crushes and they end up falling in love. And it's beautiful and it's wholesome. And frankly, you know, it got me through like the bubble and the pandemic when I was working 80 hour days or 80 hour weeks. I was locked, I was locked in, but I'd always go into bed and be like, I got an episode of Toradoor to watch. It just filled my heart with joy.

Yeah, it's a little high school thing, you know, that I'm falling in love. It's something that I feel we don't get a lot of, you know, and this is, I mean, I don't want to get into like a whole you know, Western Animation debate or whatever, but this kind of stuff, man, like really,

really be hitting. You know what I'm saying? And we don't really get like just like simple, you know, like romantic comedies exist, but not really, kind of. You know, like, they're coming, they're coming back a little bit, anyone but you just made like $200 million

with box office. They're like, oh my gosh, it made a bunch of money. We need more of these lives. I was like, that was like the first one in like three years. Right. You know what I'm saying? Literally everything that's like,

all right, we're going to put this on Netflix. We're going to throw this on next. And you're watching, it's like, it's cool. You know what I mean? But Toradora is, I don't know.

It's a mass piece. I love it. I think it's great. You can feel however you want about it. But if I wanted to bring something to live action that I think could hold its shape, but at the same time, give you a new way of seeing things, I think Torador would be a perfect choice. That one's a good anime. That's a good.

And I think the hardest thing about anime is it is so visually, it typically, like, Shonen anime is action-based animas. They're all so very. very visually distinct and like the things that you do in those shows, you kind of can't do without animation. On the other hand, premises are actually great in anime when it's about like rom-coms and kid dramas and stuff

because a lot of the things that they go for aren't exactly the things that a lot of shows are being made about now. And I like the idea of it's like, it's simple. You're not going crazy with a budget. You don't have a lot of fight scenes. You don't have a lot of like visual, splendor so much. It's just a great wholesome story.

Yeah, and if you shoot it right, you can like capture that magic. Again, it's not going to be the same as animation. You can have like a sense of spectacle and grandeur when you, if you shoot it the right way. Of course. I think the things that it needs to hit, obviously, all the, you know, typical

showju romance, anime, cliches, you know, you got to have the multiple love interests. You know what I'm saying? Somebody has to go out like incredibly sad. Like, they need to get rejected or, like, not be able to, like, get their love. It needs to be, like, heartbreaking. You need to be there.

Like, I know you not the one. And I was rooting for the relationship anyway, but it still hurts me in my chest. You feel me? Like, I want some, like, Playboy Cardi, a long time playing in the background while you going outside. You feel me? That type of stuff. So when you reveal the cast, it's starring you. It could be me.

Here's the thing, though. I'm too delusional for this. You know what I'm saying? And we were talking about this before we started recording. But ladies, y'all got that delulu thing right. Like, y'all cooking with that. Man, we need to pick that stuff up. Steve, Kermm, we need to be more delusional in the future.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I was thinking about the best summer I ever had when I was delusioned. What I was? What I was going on? Stop him. Stop him. Stop him. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. The best summer had. I was just not thinking. Joe me's the type of guy where he's just like, okay, if I'm fresh out of the barbershop, don't get me near Zendaya because I'm cooking. Because I'm, because I'm, because it's over. It's over. From downtown.

Like, what you want for me, bro? You know what I'm saying? If he's, if he's got a fresh cut and some pressed clothes. And here's why, yeah, let me show you out some because I'm telling you. Hold on. What are you doing? Let me show you a message I sent yesterday. I don't know what.

Jomey, this is not there. No, no, no, no, no. Tread so carefully right now. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is, this is wild. This is what I'm saying. Like, read the last message. Out loud?

Not out loud. It's not allowed. Read the other five that he said and no one responded. You know what I'm saying? Like, delusion works. No, I just, delusion works. I think you just neg them.

You know what I'm saying? Delusion works. That's all I'm saying. You know what I mean? And so I feel like somebody, and obviously someone in a rom-coms, got I'd be a little delusional. be like, and you kind of, you got too much dip on the chip.

You got to, you got to relax. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how real life works. You bring some real life into it. It's magic. All right, so my pitch coming to HBO Max. Let me get my star it off, Ellie. Let me get my star it off.

He didn't finish the cast. You need a tall person who has some, like, dark energy. So I'm going with Finn Wolfhard as. I was waiting for you to say yourself. It would have to be him. I kept like, he was like, he was like, he was like, like the first person in my mind, but I couldn't like, I was like, can't cast him, I can't, but like, it has to be him.

Finn Wolfhardt. Okay, okay. He's tall. He's like, he's kind of a loser. Oh, he's not a loser. He can play a loser. He can play a loser, exactly. And then I got Jenna Ortega as Tiger because she's tiny and could probably like,

fight, you know what I'm saying? Well, you need somebody short. I don't know, but like, you're doing size-based castings first of all. That's the show is, like, she's really called the Palm Top Tiger. I know what I said just so disgusted, right? she's look I'm going

I love that Jess comes in and like every day she regrets accepting our invite to come back to the show

I feel I feel fucking gross I feel sick she feels like a doom popcorn bucket I'm the equivalent to

the doom popcorn but I feel disgusting uh Bailey Madison as Minori Ian Chen as

Kikamora and Sky Jackson as Sky? Yeah because you know Sky?

Scott? Scott? Is that I know? Sky Jackson? Why, Scott? I guess, yeah. All right. And now, just to be clear,

we're going to be changing these characters' names, and this will just be an adaptation of the show entirely. These will not be Japanese people. Sky is a Japanese woman. Well, yes. But Finn Wolfhardt is not. He's not going to be reused you. Of course not.

But, you know, I just, you know, that's how. Dan, him'll be like, I'm whitewashing. An adaptation. Adaptation. That's crazy. Yeah, you yelled at me when I almost cast it Harry Stiles as Vin Diesel. That's crazy.

They're going to pack me up. Damn. He's a cop. He's a cop. Bringing it all the way back. All the way back. All right. I'll take this home.

My pitch is bringing a live action Johnny Quest to the world. Now, and I'm also going to take this a little bit farther like Jess. I'm not going to take this a generation up. I'm going to make Johnny Quest a man in a man. his early 30s, or his mid-30s, late 40s. Late 40s, early 40s. Now, Johnny Quest, obviously the classic 1960s cartoon, a young man having adventures with his dad, a doctor, and his friend.

Basically, busting villains and evil plots by super villains. There's not a whole lot to go off of in the beginning, because it's basically just classic adventures a la Scooby-Doo, a la any sort of like detective cartoon that you would have had in the 60s from Hannah Barbera. But what I would like to see is something that's also attuned to Venture Brothers. What's it like

with a kid who has aged out of a life of adventure and then attempts to like rekindle a sort of mantle because he's like he kind of peaked when he was 12 and all of his life is now boring by comparison so he yearns for adventure. So he yearns for adventure.

so he wants to have a detective agency back in. He wants to, like, reunite and get the gang back together. My cast. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. I want Andrew Garfield to play Johnny Quest. Okay. All right. Now, we're spending money, but we're making money.

All right? Yeah, yeah. This isn't a show. This is a movie. This is a one-off movie. 100%. A la, a sort of, like, Lord and Miller sort of comedy getting the gang back together knowing that Ray's Bannon and his dad are

there was a great plot line in Harvey Birdman attorney at law where like the joke being that those two were in love they actually were and like we're just going to make that happen they've absconded and like retired from a life of venture

but he discovers a plot that's going to actually bring them back together and back into the fold to star as Hajie Death Patel Okay Ray's Bannon John Ham

Ew I don't want to see him You don't want to see him I don't want to see them kiss You don't want to see them kiss All right then I'll replace it with George Clooney How about that? Can I be that character?

Can you be here? So you can be the dad of Def Patel? I'm just going to keep being like, ew, no that's a bad casting but who's my head shot? I need to be here with Deb Patel That's where I'm coming in No, no, you got it

Dr. Quest would be Sam Neal. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. I like a, I like, say what you will about the Jurassic Park new films. I just love seeing Sam Neal back in the chair again. There's like a professor of adventure.

Sam Neal's great. I want Sam Neal back in the chair. I think what makes a good adaptation of something like Johnny Quest is kind of being very self-aware about how ridiculous it was back in the 60s to basically abscond with two children and take them off on adventures

to bust international villains. So what I would want to do is just be both aware and earnest at the same time. Something that like what I would hope the revamped Fantastic Four would be. Something like a Brad Bird like 60s throwback but also

you know, taking the piss out of itself a little bit. Doesn't take itself too seriously. We are going to have it directed. I want it directed by Brad Bird by the way. because I think that he's got a lot of like good instincts and since Tomorrowland he hasn't had a good movie come out in a long time he's best he had a movie come out No he has he directed ghost protocol

Okay He directed a bunch of great other stuff Sure, but you can't name right now of course The Incredibles I know the Iron Giant I know those ones I'm asking for the human But like he could do animation he can do live action Yeah

The thing that kind of put him in director jail was Tomorrowland Yeah That was the thing that like it's been so long since he's come out with a movie since then. I saw Tomorrowland of Theaters. Never again. It's not bad. It's not bad, but it's not great.

But like director jail, like, come on, bro. If we're putting him and director Joe for Tomorrowland, there should be more, there should be like three working directors today. Yeah, like, he does not deserve to be in director jail. I hate the term director jail. But we know what it means because, like, it's been so long since a certain director,

since a certain movie has gotten anything made. Jessica, what's wrong with director jail? I don't like the, I don't like, especially with, like, yeah, with Brad Bird, because I, or, well, Well, maybe it's just because we're in film, that I'm like, no, I'll watch him because I love all his other things. I'm not going to banish him for tomorrow.

Right. We say that. It's the people. Like, yes, I made a movie in so long. Why? Right. And we say, we say director jail. He's concerned out of that money of Pixar.

Maybe. Exactly. And it's not to say that he's done anything wrong or done anything like worthy of not working again, whether or not he's even interested in directing movies or, you know, it's tough to get movies made, especially big budget Disney projects that Bradberg. had directed or another Tom Cruise joint like a lot of those things are in Tom Cruise joint a Tom Cruise joint

it says it on every mission impossible movie a Tom Cruise joint oh a hell no it does Brought to you by Tom Cruise But no I think I think getting Bradbird back into the fold For a movie like this is actually great I think that he's done very good live action stuff I think he knows how to get

a great action scene a good foot chase And a lot of good character work He's really, really good at those things. And that's my pitch for a live-action Johnny Quest. And I know that we've had a lot of things left on the board and left on the table. Anything that you'd still want to see in live action, or maybe even reverse. Any live-action things that you think would be great animated. I wanted to do spy family because I think that's the easiest, well, maybe second easiest to you.

I think spy family is easier than your area. It's basically a mystery of Mrs. Smith, but with a family. With a family. With a baby. With a baby. A psychic baby. A psychic baby. And I was always.

We were always talking about that. Me, oh my God, we were talking about that, and we were like, yeah, Spy Family is very easy to adapt. But you guys keep talking because it wasn't animated, or there was a live action. I was like, this would be better as an animation. And I need to remember it. And we're talking about, like, live action to animation or animation to live action. I think if I had a billion dollars right now, I would make Neon Genesis Evangelion a three-part series.

I genuinely think that's impossible. It's impossible. I think I think it's impossible. It's, it's in, like, that's, and that's what makes it so enticing, right? Because it, like, there's so much, there's like, frankly, you'd have to cut like half of the, half of the BS. You'd have to get rid of, like, how end of Evangelian ends.

Get rid of that. That's out of there. Well, then you can't, but that's what you're saying? Exactly. You can't not do that because that's the point, really. It's a challenge. When they're saying goodbye and Shinji is saying goodbye to Misato, right? at the end of Vinimalian.

Can't have that. That's gross. Right. Like there's so much stuff that like you need, you have to change because it just fundamentally does not work for like a mass audience. And you can say like, well, dude, I had a man to show work for a last audience. That was like 1935. And we just watched whatever.

1935. If that came out today in 2024, people are going to prison. You know what I'm saying? Like, you'd absolutely have to change some stuff. And you'd have to get the, the. The C.G. Absolutely correct with the Ava's. But ultimately, like a three-part movie series, imagine this. You're in the theater, right?

Shinji and Ray just beat the angel, right? And they go back to Nerve and they're chilling. And the credits roll, now it's all good. And then you sit there and a ship pulls into the sea and you see a grower red hair on the boat. And you like, oh, bro, I'm locked there. See, I feel like after us all seeing Dune, we think anything could be adapted and look cool because we're operating on a completely different level. But if Denny did a Evangelian, that's insane.

If you could just pull the essence of Dune and what makes Dune magical and put that in the Neon Genesis Evangelian, brother. I mean, if you do that with anything, that's biblical. But like, if you could make Neon, not make it good, but if you could make Neon Genesis Evangelian. accessible for an audience oh my oh my gosh it'd be the greatest thing we've ever seen brother

that's insane I wanted to do a cheeky reverse smuggle and like have like something that I've actually wanted to see in animation is Dune I think I think the lore of Dune and the actual like

because all of these like extra there's so much more with Dune that like isn't being talked about that it's not saying that the movies have been missing anything but like there's extra lore and there's extra books and there's side stories

and all these other things. I think if you take, like, everybody that did Scamager's reign and give it the Dune property, oh my God, cinema. Don't you think, though, that the reason the Dune at least works now is because they cut off all that fat, and they're like, y'all got it. We just don't keep this thing.

You'd be surprised, like, because if you just like the world of Dune and if you like lore and if you like more weird shit in the world of Dune, there is so much more to explore. I don't know how much more weird Dune stuff I can take. Well, you're going to get more. I'm going to get more. I'm going to get more. Oh, boy.

Jess, this was wonderful. I love this. I love this. I love us. I love what we do here. I love this. But that's going to be a wrap for us. Thank you guys so much for rocking with us.

But don't forget, later today on the House of Our Feed, we are going to be getting a deep dive from the House of Our Crew on Netflix's Avatar, The Last Airbender. And then we got our Dune Taccular Week. Midnight Boys are going to give you their Dune double feature with the 80s and current versions of Dune. And then on Friday, Midnight Boys will give you their instant reactions to Dune part two.

It's the best thing in the world when we get to do this show with you. Jess, thank you so much for coming. Of course. We are produced by the great Kerm. We love you so much. Additional production from our Juno Ramgapal. Jomi, any parting words? Thanks as always, Jess, for coming through.

Love having you. As always. Shout out to our interpreter, number one, in our hearts and on the boards. Kerm Watanabe. Hey, yo. Young Danny Fandom, he was just 14 when his parents built a very strange machine. He was dying, viewed a world unseen.

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