The Ringer-Verse - Here Comes the Pitch: 'Star Wars' Edition | Mint Edition

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

Steve, Jess, and Jomi are joined by The Ringer’s Daniel Chin to pitch their own live-action 'Star Wars' shows starring a beloved animated character that has not yet had their own story. Their pitches feature a main plotline revolving around their character of choice, along with a main villain and celebrity cast. Hosts: Steve Ahlman, Jessica Clemons, Jomi Adeniran Guest: Daniel Chin Producer: Jack Sanders Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Steve Alman. I'm Jessica Clemonds. I'm Jummi Dinaran. And today, we are going to dive into the mystical world of galaxies far, far away, and give you a nice little game of ours that we like to call. Here comes the pitch in celebration of Asoka's brand new streaming series that we are covering here on the Ringerverse. But before we begin, some programming reminders. Wednesday, the Midnight Boys are going to be back with their instant reactions to Asoka.

All fun there. Loving it. Loving it. Friday, the Midnight Boys will be back again to talk about the entire season. of my Adventures with Superman. Boy, was it a great time. And more Ringervor's content to come. Be sure to check out the latest on the brand new

House of Our Feed. We've already got a deep, deep, deep dive onto the first two episodes of Asoka, and we've got more coming. Be sure to check out the fall, best of the year, height meter that's going to be coming out on Tuesday. Happy Monday to you all.

But today, in honor of Asoka's debut, we are going to be, pitching our own live action Star Wars series based on characters that we think should be given their own show. But it's not just going to be Jomey, Jess, and myself. We are going to be joined by a very special guest right now. Please welcome Daniel Chin of the Ringer, everybody. Thank you for having me on here. Thank you for having me back here. All right, Daniel, you have been deep into the Star Wars lore. You've been writing for Theringer.com. What a great website for quite a long time. You recently

just talked about Dune Part 2's delay and what that means for the rest of our world. Guess what? We're missing out on the Chalameau Sanss. Spice will flow eventually, but it's going to be some time, it looks like. That's true. But we're going to be talking about Asoka for a little bit. What have you been enjoying about the

Asoka series so far? It's a lot of fun just seeing these animated characters come to life. And I think it's really good timing for me because I just started binging Rebels without having seen it before. So being able to pick up on all the little Easter eggs and seeing characters like

Chopper and Sabine come to life has been a lot of fun. And just like Asoka after all these years, I loved the Rebel, I mean the original Clone Wars series growing up and having Rosario Dawson starring in it now and like her own series has been a lot of fun to watch. Now Jess, you

had recently been getting into a bit more of pinching of rebels and like dipping your toe into the animated series. What have you liked about Asoka's new live action show in regards to how that's been carried over from the animated series. Actually, that's a good question.

I really like it. I'm trying to figure out like how to say this. No, wait, I do like it. I love it. I love it. Don't worry. We've been trying to figure out how to say it since the midnight points. It's all fine. I want you guys to know, I really like this.

It was fun watching her as like a little one and then be so, just like so powerful and so courageous about all her stuff and stand to her like her own convictions. I really like that. And then seeing her now, that's still kind of doing it. But in a way,

we're only two episodes in, so I'm waiting for more. But in a way where I'm like, girl, I need you to start getting involved. I need you to stop being neutral. I need you to actually get involved. And I'm like,

for how long have you been like, I'm not doing this? I'm not going to be on bad. I'm not going to be on good. I'm just going to stick to here. And now that's kind of when I'm watching that balance out in Asaka's series. Now, Jomi,

like, you're our rebels expert, our Clone Wars expert, You've seen it all. You love it all. Harrison Dula, love of your life. That's what you love. That's your little boo thing.

And I genuinely want to know what you're kind of looking forward to in the next, in the coming episodes of this season in regards to possibly like some action ramping up or maybe if we're going to be getting thrown sooner rather than later. I mean, obviously we're going to see Osuka battle, Baylon and Skull. You know, you got to have your two lightsaber duelists. go against the main character, obviously. But everybody's worried about Ezra and Thron. When are they coming?

Forget all that. Where the hell is AP5? The eternal question. Where is AP5? I'm looking, where's my protocol droid at? You know what I'm saying? We need to get locked in. We worried about the wrong stuff, man.

There's a lot of droids in the series. I was like the nurse one. I really like the nurse droid that was helping Sabine in the hospital. I was like, this is actually really cool. I don't think I've seen this. It's almost like we kind of need a series to, you know, make sure that droids are people and, you know, they deserve rights. Yeah.

Oh. Whoa. No, we're doing this again. I'm a big time advocate of droids rights here. Daniel, where do you stand on the autonomy of droids? I'm just immediately thinking about all the filler episodes we had in the old Clone War series where it's just Troyes. D Squad? I don't know if we need a whole live action version of that.

Be serious. Are you so for real? Is there like a Bible of every droid that's ever? existed. Well, the great website known as Wikipedia, which has aided us in many Star Wars quest for lore, would definitely help you out there. But I'm desperately

curious as to what we're going to be bringing to the table for our pitches that we're going to be getting to soon. But if this wasn't already apparent, we're going to give you a friendly neighborhood spoiler warning for just literally all of Star Wars. And Star Wars, that hasn't even happened because we're about to make some of our own. Also,

just a heads up, fuck the cannon. We're destroying the canon. I mean, if you're like, if you're locking in and you're like, well, that couldn't happen because someone so-and-so would have been, just let that out your mind right now. Now, Jomey, we don't know exactly what everybody else has planned for our pitches, but what I at least plan to do is go as a little bit of like a launch pad from established Canada and then maybe just go a little bit of my own way.

It's kind of like, you know, like, you know how like waves work. you know, they intersect, they disappear, they come back together. Like poetry? Like it Ryan? Oh my God. I thought you're talking about hair. I straight up said, what you talking about? I was imagining because I thought you were, why the fuck did I go to hair immediately?

I said, oh yeah, like waves. I do really love a Monday morning energy for the pod. You said they intersect. I was like, continue. No, I'm an idiot. I'm the one that went off the other way. I'm sorry. Keep going.

I'm sorry. That's all fine. Spoiler warnings for Star Wars and all established canon. Are we ready, guys? I think so. Super Red, I need you to read these rules because I'm going to break all of that. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Great.

Oh, yeah, I'll highlight and delete some things. I'm not delete nothing. My story is staying. You just got to deal with it. And let us begin. A great little game and segment that we had come up with is a game called, Here Comes the Pitch! The new segment comes to us from Galaxy Far Far Far Away,

as we the Mint Edition crew will each pitch you, the listener. our new potential Star Wars live action series starring a beloved animated character that has not yet gotten their own story that we would love to see. Each of us will make our own pitch based on the following action points. Who is the main character?

Who will be the main cast slash villain? Who is a potential celebrity casting that we'd like to see and a general pitch on the plot of this series? Later on, our pictures will be reaching you, the audience, to our social channels so you, the listener, can vote on who has the best pitch and which one you would like to see the most.

But first, a couple of rules and exclusions. While Star Wars canon is full of characters vast and wide, the likes of which you've never seen before, certain characters that we are going to be limiting ourselves to for the sake of this segment. While Asoka's imminent villain Thrawn is yet to make his live action debut, characters such as him or other characters that we know are going to be coming in the canon

or have already been touched on in live action. shows are going to be off the table for right now. Also, we are primarily sticking to animated characters in these pitches. We will not be adding any characters from video games that have existed throughout the Star Wars saga. We'll mainly be sticking to the established canon of the main films, prequels, sequels, and established TV shows that we have so far. Any questions so far?

Jomey. Okay, so see. How many rules are you going to break right now that I've just stated? Two, easy. Okay, two, great. I can settle for two. Because you said video game characters now, it's not like a crazy thing.

I'm not going to spoil it for you, but it's not like a big thing. But it also says we're sticking to only two characters of the mainline canon destroyed. All right, fine. There are like, come on, you know what I'm saying? We got to hook it up for the fans here, you know what I'm saying?

But yeah, that's just me. I don't know about y'all. But I cooked. Of course. I was cooking. Of course. Well, before we get into our game, does anybody want to go first?

You got it. That's fine. After you. After you. That's fair. All right. I will start. My pitch will be a beautiful six-episode series.

This show will be titled. Yaddle, colon, balance. That's right. I am picking a show that's start. our favorite. By the way, did you know that there's not an official name for Yoda's race? No. We still don't have that. I scoured with

Wikipedia. I think I knew that as like a fun fact. Yeah. It's like no one, everyone just calls them all Yoda's. Very much does that on purpose. And guess what? I'm going to name them. I'm going to name them in this series. I don't think they'll like that. They won't. They won't like that. Do you have a name for them off the top?

Yeah, the Yodes. The Yodes. The Yodes. The Yod goats. The Yod goats. The Yod goats. But yes, it will be starring. Our Jedi Council member, Yaddle, the female-led voice casted by Bryce Dallas Howard in the animated show Tales from the Jedi. We will be taking basically the show that is thrusting Yaddle out of her academic studies as a youth and picking up the mantle of Jedi Master in a fight for one of the first battles against a evil clan called the Path of the Open Hand. Now, this was happening around the time of Yaddle being in her

Yoda equivalent of like her middle age, I would say. She had taken on a Padawan and there was a lot of anti-Jedai sentiment going on in the galaxy pre-Jedai Council. So Yaddle, a Jedi master renowned for her wisdom and compassion, hailed from the planet Tython. she has a lot of force sensitivity and recognized for her compassion. Now a lot of Yoda's race as well as yattels are all force sensitive and have a lot of strong connections to the force and wanted to mainly advocate for diplomacy and peace. But knowing that she is going to be thrust into the conflicts of war and like sort of a pre-clone wars conflict, She is going to be radicalized to want to join the Jedi Council and advocate more so for peace after having to deal with trials of war.

So this will follow her Padawan, as well as her fighting through like the first half of the series against the path of the open hand against their evil leader, Electra Zevron. I'm pulling this from Wikipedia canon, because this is an actual canonized battle that happened in the comics. Okay, I got you. we have our evil leader who I'm casting as Michelle Yo. Okay. You know she'd do it. She would definitely do it.

My good friend Michelle Yo. Close personal friend Michelle Yo. She would do it. She would absolutely do it. I think this would be a great villain turn for her. She did great things in Star Trek. I would love to see her in a role like this. And I would also like to use a lot of

Frank Oz, Jim Henson-type puppy. because we love to see Yaddle in live action, but I just love Star Wars when they have puppets in them. And I genuinely like to see a mix of good CGI with puppetry to be used with Yaddle as well as Yoda. While I don't want to have Yoda kind of suck out the oxygen of the show, I would like to have her in close counsel because this was when Yoda was kind of in his ascension in politics, and Yaddle was kind of outside of that.

We remember from her previous episodes when she confronted Duku, she was kind of on the outside and actually like kind of figuring out what Duku was up to. I like to see her a little bit in this. Not so much boots on the ground, but also like kind of putting an ear to it and actually kind of understanding why there's anti-Jeddie sentiment and kind of getting a sort of like first introduction to both politics and war in the Star Wars universe. How are we liking this so far?

So I'm going to just be 100% honest. You said puppets and the first, Jim Henson puppets and the first thing I thought was Sesame Street hangology. Listen, he's done a lot of puppet things. Did the Dark Crystal? Did the Dark Crystal? I got it. When you said, when you said,

when he said, what's his name? You said Yoda. And I was thinking like, okay, the original series, like that kind of puppetry. Okay, that like, you know, that all makes sense. No, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Have you, has anybody familiar with the Netflix the short-lived Netflix revival series of the Dark Crystal.

Absolutely. That show was incredible. Beautiful. Beautiful. Gorgeous. Excellantly executed. That's the vibe I'm going for here. I get that.

That's what I... Yes. I'm not watching a show. It's scary as hell. Dark Crystal's great, though. And that's immediately what I thought of when you said Jim Henson puppets. I was like, oh, I'm putting it in the revival or the Netflix Dark Crystal. I take puppets seriously.

I love to see. I'm genuinely great, too. Steve Alvin. Takes puppets seriously. Put it on my gravestone. Takes puppets seriously. He's a serious man. I am.

And I abide by that. I'm ashamed to say that I have like 12 credits in shadow puppeteer theater. What? Stop the podcast. I also am a puppet girl. Give me the top three shadow puppet plays that you were in go right now. We had to create them. We studied it.

And then we had to create our own plays and do shadow puppetry theater for it. And the plays had to be 15 minutes. So you took 12 credits. Is that four classes? Okay, it's so hard to explain. I went to a school where you basically could create your own degree. It was the Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, and it basically, it's three months of doing that, and then you just get the, like, you get your credits for it. So it basically felt like.

This is liberal arts college. And it is a liberal arts college. I didn't know how liberal, but that's pretty. My God. Every counselor was like, study different things. Don't just settle for one thing. try everything. So I signed up for shadow puppets here theater my freshman year spring quarter. Incredible. So I love, I love puppets. That's why I was. I genuinely do too.

Stand with me. Yes, I do. I do. That's incredible. Make me feel less weird. I'm Daniel DeLuison. Let there be blood. Where there's, like, now if you will say that I'm a puppet man, I think you will agree. I think you will agree. I'm here. I'm sold on this already. I really like it. Daniel, any pushback here? I mean, I just love the Michelle Yo casting as a villain. I was trying to, work Michelle Yo into my pitch as well, but I think you got it right there. How would you like to see Michelle Yo go toe to toe with a yaddle puppet in a lightsaber duel? I'm there instantly. I mean, I would just watch Michelle Yo in anything, but with the puppets, I think you're, I think you're on to something here. Right. That's going to be interesting to see in 2020, whatever this gets made, a puppet versus a real-life person.

And it would still be Bryce Dallas Howard doing the voice. Yes. Okay. And guess who's directing it? Bryce Dallas-Hauer. That's it. You said it right. duty.

Boom. I love her. She's a long-time director of the Star Wars canon, and I think she would do a great job directing these things. Being a creative lead on this, I think this would be really, really good for her. I'm just saying. We would have, like, a small, like, not even so much cameos, but, like, just, like, touching, just, like, touching in on the wisdom of Yoda and, like, seeing, like, the small political

pushback that he can have in this conflict. and I want the conflict to end with the path of the open hand because that cult was decimated. They were evil. They were oppressing both Jedi and force-sensitive people. And I want like the latter half of that show to be sort of a political reckoning with how the Jedi Council was slow to respond to aid

and radicalizing Yadels who want to join the council because she wants to be the change that she wants to see in the world. She realizes that kind of on the path of Asoka where the council is fallible but she wants to change the system from the inside rather than walk away from it.

And I think that's where we end on Coruscant. We end with her basically taking a seat on the council and more or less being introduced to Duku and setting up for a potential conflict there and then we

all understand the ending that she meets in the animated series where she dies at the hands of Duku and the Sith ascendancy from there happens from that. Guys, I'm very proud of this one. It's pretty good. It's pretty solid.

I want life for Yaddle. Life for puppet Yaddle. Yes. Steve Ommon. I like puppets. Yes, I did puppets. I want puppets. Wait, quick question for you. Is there a romance between Yoda and Yaddle? Can you remind me or am I to assume that the two Yodes?

I actually don't want a romance between Yoda and Yaddle. I kind of want Yaddle to be in her own bat. Not that she can't find love or not that she can be entirely loveless. I just don't think that she's dedicated to life to academia before she goes into a battle that she doesn't want to go into. And from then on, she's more or less about helping people from the inside of the Jedi Council. That's fair. That's an interesting question who asked that, yeah, because how do people of Yoda's race repopulate? There's not many Yodes out there, you know?

There's not many Yodes out there. There's no many Yod goats out there. And like Yoda seems very committed to the Jedi way, which means, you know, on the streets like that. You know what I mean? And Yaddle. Listen, 900 years, he can get a lot done. Yadl, yeah, I'm sure she gets him. Sure.

She gets down. Not to say that like, you know, 900 whole years, obviously tragically life cut short, RIP. But how do they? I let's maybe. Maybe it's a question. We don't need to worry about that. No, I need to. A question for another podcast.

Okay, well, Jess, get on that. Hey, my writer's room is cooking right now. Where is Ben Lindberg when you need them? Exactly. I'll text them. I'll take the bed. All right. That's my pitch.

That's a good one. That's pretty good. Yeah, man. Who will be up next? I can go. I can go and I'm sweating about it. I'm sweating about it. You've been sweating about it.

I know. I have been. So mine sounds like the world's best romantic book, but it's actually not. It's called Darth Mall, the knight of Dathamere. Night with a K-N-I, with a K because, oh, he is a knight. He's almost a king. So I love Darth Mall. I love villains.

And Darth Mall was always a fan-favor villain for me. So I was like, oh, I'm going to choose Darth-Mall. And then realized, we actually have seen a lot of Darth-Mall. That's been my main question. question. So he's been long chronicled in the Clone Wars animated series. Yes. Where do you want to go with this? Are we taking this back

or are we taking this forward? What are we doing? We're doing a little bit of both before and into the Clone Wars. What I wanted to do is create a mini-series and if it gets renewed for a second season, then we can pick up in between in the second season. What happens after he becomes the like six-limid freak in the

trash shoot? Spider-Mall, yeah. The Spider-Mall. But I want to stick mainly, kind of like an origin story, because one my favorite parts is where Darth Moll's from. And I love a planet that's ruled by women and men are subservant. Okay. We love a matriarchy. Yes, we love a matriarchy. So let's get into it. My main character is Darth Moll. My main cast, right? So I have Darth Moll, his mother, Mother Talzin, Darth Sidious, Savage, his brother, Kenobi. And then for a celebrity, since we're going to have a little bit of him as like a younger, younger, like, you cast like a five or six-year-old,

it can be anyone, because I don't know any five or six-year-old. Okay. So you want to look at a little bit. little kid mall. Well, it will have a little piece of that because I also want to, I also want to center around, he was forced to become a warrior. Like, he was like, you're a boy, you're going to go to this other side of the planet with all the other men, and you're going to just learn to fight. And he's like, I don't really want to fight. And they're like, well, you're going to do it because that's what you're going to do. You're a man on this this planet that's ruled by women. A little, like, 300, where like they send you off to the

woods and you fight the wolf. So, yeah, oh, so it's just little baby Darth Moll being like, I don't want to do this. And this is pre-tattoos. So he's just red and just doesn't want to do it. But that is, hey, hey, hey. He's got his little baby horns. He's got the tiny horns and he's having a hard time. But that can be anyone. But when he gets into like an older version where he's working under, when he first begins like actually working with Sidious, I wanted to be Andrew Garfield. And this is wild casting. Well, Andrew Garfield is an actor. He is a theater actor. And I'm like, he's a Thespian. So I think he's going to deliver. I think he'll deliver. I think he'll deliver. That's a lot to grapple.

No, no, no, no, I think, because my thing was, like, my head, I think of Maul as, like, a buff dude, but in reality, like, kind of, he's lean. At the beginning, he wasn't. It wasn't until after his mom, like, re-heeled him and gave him robotic legs that he kind of gets, but that's, like, an older, sadder, crazier, Darth Mall. Yeah, like, Darth Mall and the, and if my mind is correct, you're like a slim dude, you know what I mean? He's been in the gym, he's been locked in, you know, he's been cunties and all season, you know what I mean? It's also like it's like the body of someone that works out a lot but doesn't eat a lot, which is Darth Mall. Okay. All right.

So we're dealing with him in his teen years. Well, yes. And then when he is the spider mall. Spider Mall. When he's Spider Mall. That's Spider Manpling, Spider-Mall? No, no, no, no. I wanted to become Christopher Eccleson.

So this will be the very last scene, the very last scene of the series. And if it gets renewed for a second season, we go forward with Christopher Ecclson. Because I love Christopher Eccleson. Wow. And then the mother Talism, I want to be played by McKlinson. Kayla Cole. Oh. I want D'Arth Sidious to be Richard E. Grant. Okay, wow. You're dropping

checks here. Savage. Yeah, I thought we were going. I thought we were going. No, no, please. Savage, the brother, I want to be played by Dave Batista. And Canovi is just going to be Aaron McGregor engaged. It's just going to be even McGregor. Because I feel like you can't change Kenobi. And I am in no place as a Star Wars

fan to change Kenobi. Daniel, I want to get your input on this. Do you feel like, because this is more or less kind of the solo argument. I'm like, do we feel like we are allowed to recast for iconic roles or are we allowed to de-age a Mark Hamill or

a la. As she wants to, de-aging, which some might could like consider a sin. No, I under. You and McGregor. I would rather, and this is Jessica Clemens speaking, no one else. I'm so afraid of Star Wars fans

that I would rather just de-age Aaron McGregor then try to find someone to recast as Canobi. I don't know. I'm too afraid. I think a lot of them would... And go ahead, be upset because I'm like, this is your fandom. I'm like, I genuinely am like, I don't know. I'm afraid.

Daniel, are we damned if we do, damned if we don't on the recasting here? I think that's fair, and I think it really should be like a case-by-case situation. Like, I agree that, you know, you'd definitely get some pushback if you're recasting Canobi. And I feel like, you know, you could make them look young still without even doing a lot of de-aging. but with the Luke Skywalker situation like that was a little bit too much for me

that was a little bit weird that's where you reach like that uncanny valley kind of territory I'm like I'm all more like you know just performance you know you can just have like somebody actually show their face rather than hide behind like CGI 100% and in this

and when I read you guys my plot Kenobi's not that much in it it's only because clearly he has to show up to because he's a main he's the reason why does he have to do does he have to well it's more so that like there's pieces that have Kenobi attached to it and that's why I'm like for the storyline maybe we need to see his face at least once.

Okay. I want to get to that scene where he does get cut in half by Canobi, but I think there's a way of doing it where right when he walks in the door we have just like we have Andrew Garfield's Darth Mall pull out his like double sword and then it cuts to like when he was younger and we get a piece of why he can't. Let me get into the plot because then you'll understand why. Let's go. Let's go.

Okay. So imagine Dune. I'm imagining it. Imagine, dude, especially in the sisterhood. I'm a raucous. I don't have this. But no, because imagine the sisterhood, especially with Dune, the Jenny Bessera, I think. So we got a miniseries following the mini-sad trials of Darth Maul leading to and during Clone Wars.

Cutting between present day and past, we followed Darth Maul from being a young boy on Dothamere training and subordinate to the female Dothamarians to demented mechanical Sixland freak in the trash tunnels after Kanobe cut him in, too. we're going through his uprise and downfall, all affected by patience. I loved, one of my favorite things from The Witcher, I know, is that law of neutrality was like the key thing. It was like neutral, neutral. There's disadvantages and advantages. And here, I think for Darth Mal's career, it's always been patience, has been a problem. He has so much anger.

He doesn't have time. And he's like, you guys are, you're wasting your time. And his patience will always be his downfall. So I think we see him impatient and frustrated as a young boy when really trained to be a warrior. then he's moved from Dothamere. We see older malls start rebelling against his own master, learning to create his own path that ends and begins with killing only Jedi's. His ego grows with his kills, yet his prestige staggers.

He wants the Jedi's to know he's coming to kill them. Sidious wants him to stick to their original plan, and we're optimistic about the young Sith Lord's curiosity of what makes him hate the Jedi's, but also in doubts of Darth Sidious. But unfortunately, we all know how this ends. We know that he eventually dies. But I think a key part of what I really want is obviously Darth Mall is a villain and I don't want to change that story.

I want him to stay a villain. I don't want us to like cheer him on. I want us to figure out. I want us just figure him out and understand why he's doing the things he does and to arguably be like, oh, this is a valiant enemy. To be like this is actually a really good villain. So I don't want to change the story. I don't want us being like, man, this is a good guy.

It's like, no, he's still a bad guy. He's a horrible person, but he's a really good enemy. And that's why we're so invested in this. I want us to explore Dothamere, his home planet, because the night sisters are insane, and I want to be one. I want to be magical and just above men at all times. And I also need, I need someone to answer, like, how do they procreate? Who made it with who?

Was it ritualistic? Was Mother Talzin actually the mother to all of them? How did this come to be? Because all of them, Darth Mal has two brothers, supposedly, but we don't know how all the other men on the planet are created. And I think this is an interesting backstory to figure out what originated, what started this woman Ryan Planet and why this one woman who started it was like, these men suck. Let's put them to the other side of the planet and just rule it to ourselves. Because I think that would give way to why Darth Mall is so angry inside and just doesn't know how to put his anger. It's so misplaced.

Go on. Does this sound like Barbie to you? Does this sound like the plot of Barbie? The Ken's need to revolt? Jesus Christ With my headphones I'm just more I can't believe

that it all went bad Did I just wait a minute Am I wrong? No, you're not You're completely not You're completely not This is we're literally under Oh my God

Because yeah Ken was The Ken's worked like good Even when they came back We're kind of like Yeah you guys like But it's not under the degree They said but we're like we use them as Yeah

And this is all of them They're misplaced anger Incredible Oh my God I'm just imagining that they craft the men Like Urukai where they just like mold them out of clay or whatever Yes 100% I still love it

I think this is great Okay well let me end with the cameos And then we'll get back into how this is Barbie God damn The cameos are his brother Can they sing? No actually should they Should they get a musical episode like in Star Trek?

Yes It's Canobi Is Savage will make a cameo appearance Cadbane and General Grievous Okay. But yeah. No, it is. It is Barbie.

It's kind of like Barbie. Is Dune like Barbie? Because that's Warner Bros. too. Well, no, because they didn't banish. It wasn't separated by men, but it was like the sisterhood. The sisterhood is a really big deal to me. Yes.

And Dune. And I really liked it. And I love that. That was specifically like this on Dothmere in Star Wars. I was like, this is insane. This is kind of like Dune. If we really think about it, isn't everything really like Dune? And with that, we have,

Tommy's pitch that is just Dune part two. No, this, I love this. I'm fascinated at the idea that we can see, it seems like you really want to explore like the, the advantages and disadvantage of Moll coming from a matriarch society that may or may not have neglected him and his purpose because he doesn't want to fight. He's been made to fight.

And a lot of the struggles that Moll had, both in the Clone Wars and in his life has been, as Fred of Prince Jr. would say, Sisyphian, where he's just pushing that boulder up the hill and then constantly having it fall back down. He's the coyote in the Roadrunner story. He always gets close enough to reach his goal, but he never gets there. And he just gets close enough to make him want to try again.

And he gets angrier and angrier and more powerful and more set in his ways. And I really, really like that. I think that this is a good pitch. Daniel, what do you think? I think I really like it too just because now you can focus on a villain in a real way and actually stick with them being a villain. I feel like there's a lot of times we see in movies where they kind of like half stepping around like the suicide squad, like the original one where it's like they're supposed to be villains

but in the end it's like about family and like they're all kind of good in the end. But actually exploring a villain like Darth Mall, like an iconic villain and really diving into that would be really interesting in a show. And plus just like Dothamere is a really good choice of like a setting. I always thought it was a really fascinating. You know, it's like so different than all the other planets. Like one of the great things about the animated series was just how you have more time and all these weird planets that are different than what we see,

like the sandy planets that we always see in the live action. I don't know. Not enough desert planets for me, Jess. I might be putting the thumbs down on this. No, wait. This isn't really desert. It's more smoke. Smoke.

There's definitely a sandstorm in mine, so don't worry. Oh, God. Better be the song, Sandstorm. I'm already lighting it. I wish you to get the rest of that. Now I like this. This is good. Like Daniel was saying like, I mean, me personally, I hate all the villain stuff that comes out because the villains are like always like the good people.

Oh, I don't want to see that. Yeah, all the recent stuff, you know, Venom and the Joker, you know, where it's like, oh, he's the good guys. Like, nah, bro, if you're new villain movie, I want him to be evil and like be the bad guy and just like, just win. Just had a bad guy went for once in the bad guy movie. You don't have to pretend that he's doing something virtuous or whatever. It's, I remember my favorite villainous moment was, I think, in Canobi with Darth Vader just walking through the city. And he just like throws people around. Doesn't say anything immediately comes in.

Joke someone. It was episode three. Yeah. He just like, choked that dude. Quick. And it was just like, he just walked in and everyone was like, why? And he's like, I don't need a reason. He's like, I'm coming in here.

You guys got this ship that's about to go off. I'm going to get pissed off right now. He said that. He's straight up in. In the show. He was like, I'm just like, I'm a lot of here. I liked it so much. I think Star Wars does have

my favorite villains and bounty hunters. But I wanted just to make a villain thing. Just a villain. Hell yeah. Just make him a villain. I'm just villain. That's my pitch. Great title, though.

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You guys have set the bar really high. You know. I'm sorry. Are you running from the Yaddle smoke? I'm not really running from the Yaddle smoke. You know, so. I called this. This one is called My Pitch. It's titled The Padawans.

Oh, I'm interesting. The main character, Clone Wars fans, remember the episodes, the arc that started with The Gathering. And when I watched the episode, the character that I came away with, the character that I was like, I love this character, do not take them away from me. They need to be my life forever. Biff.

So the main character of Padawans is Biff. We've got him, his homies, P. A.O. and Gadoni, Gandoni, also from that episode of the

of the gathering. We have a new Star Wars character that I'm inventing. Oh. In Canaan. Her name is Esthera. Beauty. Okay. She's not force sensitive, but she is first

mate to the greatest pirate in the universe that's right hondo adok anacca ohnaka that's right yep yep he's sure about it also yep that's how that's pronounced it looked like a d from here man i need glasses right hondo is here that's right uh in my casting you know i'm going because they're like you know like 20 23 24 ish i'm going real young the hottest young actors in all of hollywood right i got will Poulter playing Biff. Storm read. No, I'm not about it.

Storm read. I'm going to do Storm read. Come on. Timothy Salomey as Patro. Now, you go out like, that's crazy. See, we're doing doing all up in this bitch. We got Zendaya. What?

Boy, I swear to God. This will be the first trillion-dollar Star Wars. Listen, listen, listen, they got to get the youngest, hottest actors in Hollywood. You know what I mean? that's how you get the kids to show up. You know, oh, look, Kathleen Kennedy, I know you're listening, you know, tap in. She's playing Gnudy.

Honda, great name. Hondo, you know, that's my guy. I'm thinking, like, who could play Honda? Who I think is, like, play, like, the earnestness, but also, like, the fun, you know, kind of goofy nature, but keep it grounded and real. Hugh Jacqueline. I know he's available.

Hugh Jackman. The thing is, okay, so this is, continue, you're cooking, But it's like, some of these actors are so busy. Dom. And so expensive. When Disney calls and Disney puts down the check, you suddenly, oh, man, I got six months free. Okay. They've been in, like, not to say, like, let's be.

Well, to be fair. Hugh Jackman might be like, I'm done. The only person, I think. I don't know. He said he was done with Wolverine. You just, just, the bag's right. The bag's right. Right.

I mean, for Will and Zendaya, they have to do like, well, they got to do like motion capture and, like, voiceover. So it's not like crazy. You know, they got to, like, like, Hugh Jackman got to show up to set, got to put on full Honda makeup. That's true. You know what I'm saying? But he's going to get like $25 million. Okay.

So you got a lot of alien races, it sounds like. What are we working with here? Florence Pugh, she's a human. Jesus Christ. This is doing. Listen, first of all, it's not my fault that they were, they had to say, and they were like, look, you know, all them young hot actors, boom, bang. Where's Rebecca Ferguson?

We're going to put them all the, we really tried. We were thinking about a role for Rebecca Ferguson. you know Storm Reed you know we're thinking about her Jacob Allorty you know we were just like You were just like You're cooking you guys were really cooking You know what I'm saying?

Daniel in this show Who are we going to make Tom Cruise play? It's a blank check show You know what I'm saying You know a studio's at the end of the rope When they just start like all right cool We're gonna we're gonna highlight We're on a green light of show

That's got everybody in it Yeah that's true You know what I'm saying It's kind of like that They're putting all the chips in That's true That's true This is what we got

That's true I'll give that And yeah, that's my cast. I'm going to go through the little, little plot, you know, real quick. Jack, we were producing this episode. He put down some, some, like, some mysterious music.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, put down some, like, real, like, tension-filled, you know? Ben, okay, so check this out, right? It's a couple years after Order 66. Okay. Young Biff. He's running away from Imperial Forces, right?

they suspect that he might be a Jedi man he's running he's fine he's like gotta get away gotta get away turns out he sees a ship it's like yo it's his boy Pietra boy comes down he's like hey yo remember me from the like bro yeah we used to

corersat together yeah he was padamaz together it was hadn't it turns out he's there with his whole little girly gandoni you know what I'm saying but they got a little thing going on And Doni Tendoroni. And they meet Hondo, who they also rescued back at the day. And it's his new first mate, Esther, as they go look for a place to be free from, you know, Imperial Forces hunting Jedi.

Okay. Right. They got to get to Khorstown, right? You know, like, why would you go to Khorosan? I mean, it's the biggest planet, trillion people. You get there, you get smuggled out to a place where you can be safe. They're just like, hey, get there, give you somebody, you be safe, right? Turns out, though, they hear it call.

right on the graves like oh yo it's another jenni first hey we got we got to help this guy right like hondo doesn't really want to do it hondo's like i'm not really trying to i'm not really trying to get to that but whatever they end up they end up doing it hondo's really upset they find this guy right he's on a sandy planet there's a little sands some going on oh god listen listen hey hey hey hey hey hey hey it's not it's not star wars without sand i hate sand i stand with that i stand with that it makes sense But I'm going to let the droids vote. But I'm going to let the droids vote. They go down to the planet.

They're like, hey, bro, we got to get out of here. But this dude, he's just like, I know we got to go, but you guys, like, there are Jedi dying all over this place, man, all over the galaxy. I don't know what is happening. They're either getting captured or killed. I don't know what's going on. I'm like, yeah, we hear you. I understand Imperial forces they're doing it.

Let's get out of here. there's a sandstorm going on. We can't be here too long, right? On the way out, he starts talking about like, you know, look, guys, I know I haven't, I haven't, like, told you, like, all this stuff, but, you know, the Jedi on Corrason were murdered. Y'all didn't hear about that? I don't hear about the Jedi on Corosan.

Like, things are going down. And they get separated in the sandstorm, and he dies. Right? you're like, whoa, dog. What episode are we on by now? By the way, this is a film. This is a feature film, by the way. You don't cast Zendaya, Timothy Chalameh, Will Poulter,

4-4 at 6th television Disney Plus series. Who is walking through the desert? Oh, sorry, Biff and Gendonner, walking through the desert with the Jedi. And one of those is Timothy. Yeah, no. Timothy is Pietro. Oh, okay. I'm connecting them.

Because you're trying to make this not Dune. Yeah, because there's the Sandstone part where they get stuck in the desert. Zendaya and Will Poulter in the desert. We're on some real relax. Relax. Okay. It's not my fault. They cast my movie.

It's not your fault. This is not my fault. I'm very much interested in it. I love it. I already love them getting lost in the desert and one dying. Right. Dies, right? They get back.

They're like, bruh. The homie, like, he would spend some gas and he just passed away. We need to figure, we need to figure something out. Because this can't keep happening, man. Then Pieto's like, wait, hold on. Honda really wanted us to go to. Corrison, bro. Like, he was dead set on getting us there on time.

The Jedi just said that the people on Corrason died. Was Honda going there to sell us to the people killing the Jedi, to the Imperial Forces for a check? Yo, we can't let that slide. So they're like, bro, Honda, you got to go, man. And, you know,

they had, like, they've had good experiences with Honda, so it's kind of like, they're kind of conflicted about it. But at the day, you got to think about stuff. We got to think about getting the Jedi to safety, right? But here's the thing, right? They do that. Hondo's like, bro, where do you be friends? We're cool? What happened?

All that cool stuff. You know what I'm saying? Dude's like, nah, got to think about. Biff's like, no, dude. Got to think about me first. Got to think about the Jedi first. You got to go, right? And then Pietro, he takes charge of the ship. He's like, yo, we're going to get us to a spot. Don't worry.

And then Biff remembers when did you found the dead dude? The last thing he said was beware of Kriok, right? Bifton know what that means. Like, that's weird, whatever. Beware of Kriak. He's like, okay, I guess that's mystic to me. I don't know what that means.

Okay. So, Estera, you know, first main, she's like, yo, Petra, where are we going? Like, where we got to go? Mitchell, like, yeah, bro, I know a guy in the Kriak system. He's going to lead a store if you need to go. It's like, yo, that kind of sounds familiar. I don't know.

The Duce said we shouldn't. we shouldn't go there. Right? But, like, Biff's like, you got a feeling. He's got like that Jedi feeling,

you know? Okay. You know how like in Star Wars, they'd be like, I have a bad feeling about this? Biff has the same, same exact thing, right? You go to Piacho's like,

yo, though, we can't, we can't do this. But I'm like, no, I've kind of really feel like we should do this. Then it clicks.

Pietro's been orchestrated this whole thing the whole time. Yep. He's collecting the Jedi. Right? He even went down to the spot to go get the Jedi from the planet and he was like, look,

I'm, look, hey, my new master needs to start killing Jedi, bro. Like, hey, you got me. But I can't really let you live after that. You feel me? I can't really die. Him and Benf and Gandoni, they go bar for bar with Pietro.

He's really good at the dark side of the force. Ultimately, he like, he survives barely, but escapes. You know what I'm saying? And even though Biff and Gannuna, at first, they're like, yeah, we got to get out of here. They're like, yo, after all this, it should be our job to go now and rescue some Jedi and help Jedi who need help.

They put on, like, you know, a call to the galaxy, hey, we got you off. Y'all need help and guess the first person who calls. Yeah, that's right. It's the cameo number one. CalCestus answers. That's right, too. Boom, credits roll.

We're all crying. We're like, this is the best thing I've ever seen. Post credits roll up. Are they the same? this is coming from someone that is clearly lacking. Is it no, I meant say like are they the,

like the third sister, how she was one of the? Oh, oh, oh, don't, oh, I got me cooking.

I had a question. I had a question. Hold on. Post credits roll. Oh, got you, got you, got you got you.

Petro, he's obviously, he's like, bound, he's like, look, I messed up. I wasn't able to get these guys,

but I promise you, you give me another shot. I got this, right? Looks up, start Vader. Oh, I'm sorry.

I ruined it. Carveta's like, yo, don't worry. I got you. We're going to solve this. I got an idea. Okay. For a little thing, we can go around using force users to kill other force users. Call them Inquisitors.

Hell yeah, baby. Boom. Wow. Wow. Wow. Tell me that's not gas. I love that. That's not a billion dollars, too, man.

You got this. You got this isn't lined up. Come on. We can start a franchise. It's going to cost a billion dollars. I'm going to tell you. It's going to cost $200 million dollars easy. That's not.

No. You see, whoa, whoa, hold on. Hold on, hold on. You got a, you know, cast feeds, you know, a ad up. That's at least like what, like $75, $80 million. That's CGII budget sounds insane. They're going to say, Timothy, I can give you that kid from Heartstopper.

Listen. Listen, listen, listen, you want to get, you got to get the kids back in Star Wars, man. Kids not watch Star Wars no more. I think I like Timothy's, timidie casted as that character for being sneaky and doing it because he, oh, he could play sneaky very well. My thing is you wouldn't suspect Timmy. to be the bad guy. Yeah.

You'd be like, oh, that's Tillip Shailley that's a good dude. Then when the twist comes, you're like, not Timothy Shallamee. He looks, he looks a little evil. I think it's the,

like he always looks the eyebrows down and like a little. So I could see him doing this. And that's what I like about it. That's what I really like. Well, actually, I like the whole thing because I also am a big fan

of the Inquisitors. So I like that reveal. That's fun. I love this. God, I also love Order 66. Order 66. We can't, we can't stop going

back. You can't, dude. It's great. It's crazy. You know. But let's go all the way back. Daniel, I think it's time for your pitch with a truly inspired pick for

one of our, for one of our pitches here. Thank you, thank you. Okay. So, I'm going with the title. I'm just borrowing the episode from Clone Wars, but the title, working title.

Hey, we're good. We're good. You know, that's the way to do it, you know? A little call back for the fans, you know? Hey, I'm good. But Guerrera, a war on two fronts. And the main characters being saw and steal a Guerrera.

and for the casting I thought a lot about this so you'd have Stefan James as a young a young Saw Guerrera Mm hmm You'd have Dominique Fishback As a young Stela Guerrera

Yeah I heard somebody say Storm Reed before Hey baby Hey I have Storm I have Storm I have Storm read as a young Asoka Yeah we can heard of that Asaoka in this

Oh Oh I mean, eight. Daniel. Okay, okay. And then as the villainous King Rash, I'm trying to build up that character a little more.

He's kind of a figurehead in the TV show. Not really much, but I want Dev Patel to be that guy and make him a little bit more menacing. Daniel, you're killing it right now. God, and then as the last guy, there's Luxebon-Carry.

And for him, I didn't really know what to do. I feel like the animated version, he kind of looks like Timothy Chalameh, but he could just be any random white dude. And there just needs there needs to be more Asian people in Star Wars. And, you know, to pull in that global audience, I'm casting somebody from BTS.

Wow. Bring them in. Wait a minute. Who from BTS? Who from BTS? I'm not going to lie to you. I don't know anything about BTS. I'm here before the meeting on the Wikipedia page.

That's a crazy stuff. Okay. Scouring Wikipedia. Wikipedia for which BTS member Who do you think speaks to you? Dale, you cook it right now. I'm going with Jin because I see that he was interested in acting

in his Wikipedia profile. He was like, oh, yeah. Gin wants to act, okay, give him another chance in a Star Wars show right now. I'm going to put him on right now, you know? Jen's orange. What's the best race? Just wait a second.

I like to imagine Daniel as an executive and they're like, okay, we need somebody to cast a Lux Monterey. man bring one of them BTS is in here which one which one is like you thought you were cooking but that is literally

you're getting them you're getting them I say it's fire but this is funny to think about half of the audience that walked into that Olivia Wild movie was like oh we're here for only Harry Styles that's how you get it you got international box office

in the bag Daniel I'm thinking of the big picture here you know like Disney Disney's always trying to bring in new people you know, trying to get the global audience, thinking about the Asian markets, get BTS. You grabbed, you grabbed a group from every group, like everybody. Daniel, this is crazy. Incredible.

Okay. All right. Let me get to the pitch, so let me get to the pitch. Because, you know, your opinion is my change. But I doubt it. So basically, I'm proposing adapting, but also expanding on the four-episode story arc in the fifth season of Clone Wars that begins with the war on two fronts. And just a quick recap for those who don't remember, this was a story arc that followed a group of rebels on the planet Anderon as they reclaim its capital city from separatist control

with a little help from the Republic. And this arc served as the introduction to Saul Guerrera, who has since become more popular in the live action movies with Forrest Whitaker playing the role in both Rogue One and Andor and character appears in some video games too. but so while the Clone Wars arc would serve as like the culmination of the series like the big plot point that we're building up to that big battle where they're liberating the city I'm envisioning it as a more grounded show

that focuses on these rebels for the most part taking some cues from Andor from Rogue One and for much of it just focusing on the Greras and just them leading their own rebellion on Andron their relationship as brother and sister and also just like the radicalization of Saqarer. Because we see him later on as him being like the boogeyman of rebels. You know, this is the guy that goes even too far for the rebels.

So I want to explore a little bit of how he got there in a way that the show didn't really touch that much on because, you know, that was just the creation of a minor character at that point. But with a longer runway to develop these characters, you know, with Stila eventually dying at the end of it, you could have a much stronger emotional impact after building him up together. and you can even do a time jump towards the end of the series that explorers saw years later showing how he's changed,

how he's become radicalized, and also how he becomes an important figure in the rebellion to come against the empire. Do you imagine, like, Forrest Whitaker kind of like, not to sound reductive,

but like the beginning of like walk hard where he's just like thinking about his early life. He's got to think about his whole life before he goes to war or something like that. I wasn't really thinking about that. Okay, then don't. You know what? I'm stepping on the pitch.

Don't ignore me. It's like the scene in World One where he's about to die. And he just like flashes back. Oh, okay. Okay. I like that, though. Yeah, I mean, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation. A little record scratch.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sold. Jesus, man. Yeah. But I mean, so I mean, a few things that, you know, I'd be looking for, like, one of the things that I thought was kind of annoying and it was kind of like a tropey,

like, anime TV show thing was, like, this love triangle that was going on between like Stila, Lux and Asoka. I don't think you really need to focus on that because it was a little bit too much of a focal point in that story arc. You know, put more of the emphasis on the Guerreras and Anderon, their relationship.

But also, I think, you know, talking about Saw and how he's radicalized, you could really emphasize how the Jedi and the Republic was very neutral in this whole story. And I thought that was a really interesting, like, plot point that wasn't really emphasized like too, too much. Where it's like, you know, Asoka is there,

but she's like, ah, you know, I don't really know if I should be fighting here. I'm not really allowed. But, like, Stila wouldn't have died if that was going to happen. So, like, this is kind of how Saw becomes radicalized, too, because he's like, you know, if the Jedi had only helped me, if the Republic had helped me, maybe my sister wouldn't be dead. And now I'm going to be more extreme from that one. And then, you know, let's see, what else I have here? You know, just like the tension between Steela and Saw when Steele is chosen to be a leader over him, I think that would be another interesting plot point to just, you know, develop their characters and their relationship a little bit more.

turning King Rash into a more menacing villain, like I said. I mean, I just love Dev Patel, and I think him being in a Star Wars show or movie, whatever, would be awesome, you know, in a villainous role too. And it would just be an opportunity to explore a young Asoka in the backdrop of this live-action series happening. I think Stormmead is awesome. I think she'd be a great young Asoka. And you could also feature some crossover from other Jedi like Obi-1 with Anakin and then

some of the animated favorites like Captain Rex and Hondo, who also appear in this story arc. Oh, nice. Man, dude. Storm Reed is a suck. So good. I would lose my life. Honestly, truly inspired on all fronts. So you're imagining this as a show, by the way, right?

I'm imagining this as a show and just like extending that arc like before and then potentially a little bit after. But really like doing it before so you can actually build up these characters a little bit more because it's kind of rushed in like a four episode, like 20 minute animated series. I'm stunned. I'm sold. I don't. I'm going to be voting.

for you in the pool. Yeah, I'm not trying to like douse the jury pool here, but like uphill battle from here for everybody else. Sorry, guys. That's that's wild. You should have never been on today's episode. Yeah, no. Grand opening, grand closing for Daniel Chin right here. That was going to steal the show.

Damn, that's so good. That's incredible. That is easily amazing and should be produced. Someone's going to listen to this and steal it. You need to do something. That's great. Can you do something about it? Welcome to our new podcast, free ideas. Yeah, can you patent this? Is that how you do it? I need Jomey in the meeting with me, though, doing his, like, you know,

dramatic reading of it all with the music in the background. Like, I need a true showman to be putting this on. Jomey's going to take Storm Reed out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, clearly. What? Just the whole cast of dude is there instead. It's like, now, I understand that Storm Reed is very talented, but what if we put Zendaya in here?

Listen, it's not one for one that can all succeed. We can all have our black sisters. That's true. I just wanted Storm in yours, too. Now, I understand Tom Hanks is pivotal. part for this role. But what if we cast Zendaya? Y'all not seen a vision, man.

When the 17 year rolls, 18 rolls start buying Zendaya Gannoni merch, y'all gonna be like, damn, Jomi had a point. Shipping, shipping, Biff and Gandoni. And put blue ivy anymore. Just to,

can't wait. She works really hard. The Jedi that I mentioned, that gives that dies. Fun fact. It's actually Brett Pitt. Get out of here. It's actually Brett Pitt.

Yeah, no. We're just going crazy. Just putting in cheap codes for yours. Budget is just skyrocketing. Yeah. Absurd. Absolutely absurd. Well, we're going to end that absurdity

with a call to action from you guys. Be sure to vote on our social channels. The great Jomea Dinan is going to be guiding you towards those in the next day or so. And vote for who you find to have the great pitch. I mean, basically who had the second best pitch here? Yeah, honestly. And please enjoy that.

I love Jomey's. I love Jomey. It's a wonderful, wonderful time. I just need to start the GoFund me right now. Yeah, no. And coming in 20, 87. It's going to be a few years. Yeah. We got to stop the CGI right now. Like, no, it's a lot, but we're cooking. I'm going to de-age all of them by then.

It's going to be, you guys are going to look. The egg on your face when Blue Ivy does blow up. And you could have added her before she blew up. We could have been on ground floor. Just that's a ground floor of Blue Ivy Carter. Damn. Lou Ivy's doing the Renaissance tour right now, probably making like six Gs a night.

She won a Grammy. Won a Grammy. Just from doing this. It's like living her best life, like as a producer on Beyonce's albums. You know what I'm saying? Like is this like the daughter of two of the most like famous, wealthy,

wealthy, important people in music history. And we're like, guys, we got to, we got to, we got to start her career. Put her in Star Wars. We got to start her career. The thing is, that is, that is, that would be insane if we got Beyonce's daughter into a Star Wars property. I mean, I don't, I don't know if we should yet, but like, it would be crazy. Look, if Beyonce is on set, we got to get her on there too. Oh my God.

Yeah, I'm saying? Honestly, that's probably just like a little favor that we do to be like, okay, put blue Ivy in there and then maybe I'll think about it. We have Beyonce voice a droid. Come on. Come on. Come on. You're not going to, you're not going to. the Lion King, her. Come on, stop it.

Yeah, yeah, I know. All right. That's a wrap for us. Please be sure to check out the rest of the Ring ofverse feed all week. Midnight Boys are going to be giving you their instant reactions on Asoka on Wednesday. And on Friday, Midnight Boys will be back to give you their thoughts on the full

season of My Adventures with Superman. And more from the Ringervverse. Check out the brand new house of our feed. We're so excited to have everybody listen to them. You guys have been blown it up. We appreciate it. They are going to be giving you their deep on Assoca on Friday, and then we're going to give you a height meter tomorrow.

So be sure to stay tuned for that. Thank you so much to our guest, Daniel Chin, to just absolutely blow up our spot. Come back. Please come back. We are definitely coming back. We are produced by Jack Sanders, filling in for Jonathan Kerma. Thank you guys so much for listening. Any parting words from Jomi and Jess?

Man, Jack, appreciate you for helping out. Jess, Steve, you know, fun as always. And thank God for Daniel Chin. My God, DC, DC, you know, DC, Star Wars can be calling you, I'm going to be calling you, I'm going to keep your phone on. I need you in that meeting with me, Jalmy. I'm saying right now.

I got you, man. Keep gin at all costs. See you guys next time. Bye-bye. Bye.