The Ringer-Verse - ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 2, Episode 2 Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

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So y'all continue to like, follow. It's not, what do you? You see the hunger. It's just like, I don't like this, bro. Like, you don't like me doing my job. See what I'm saying? I really can't. Be cool about it.

Again, we keep having the same conversation. We have to stop having this conversation. It's my job to be thirsty. I have to. That's what I got to do. I got to play to the memes. I got to play to the jokes. When you took the interview and you're like, how thirsty can you be?

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Check out the ringer.com. Backslides events for more information. You guys go into Talk to Thrones tomorrow? I will be there. I will be there. Charles? Yeah, I just realized that it was tomorrow. Myfucks didn't give me the invite, but it's fine.

We've been saying it for weeks. Wait, wait a second. We've warned you plenty. It's June 25th. Do I have to buy a ticket to go? No, we'll probably just let you come. Are Juno? You sure?

You'll get me in. We know people, man. We know. We can just go. We're like, usually, like, this is on the mint. Like, you should have been like, All right, yo, when we go in, like, we go into Vance House first, we chill in, pop up as a crew. Nobody said anything.

Let's make a plan. You know what else? Let's crash their shit. Oh, yeah. Because let's be honest. When I think about this, they're getting too much time. Because- Getting too much.

It would be honestly insane. They got two shows and we only got one. Because top the throne. It's true. It's a whole other show. Are you going to let me do it? All right, yeah, let you do it. Like, because, because I know we have to talk about this.

I know, are you going to let me make my criticism? Or are you going to, you're going to, like, jump on the dick of House of Strong? Oh, right. Like, you, like, because your loyalty has already been, I can't even get this, the criticism out. Before Steve's like, that's not fair. That's not fair. That's not fair. How's war?

Like, listen, let me get the criticism out. When you think about it. Mm-hmm. House of Ar is going to be on stage with us, right? Yes. And then they also get their own show with Chris for Talk to Thrones. Yes. They're going up two times to R1.

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For our show, I feel like we should do a Ken and Friends situation. Can you imagine if we just had all the Black Podcasts? Oh, that's on. Steve just looking in the wits and you're like, damn. At the end of it. We got Logan Wiles. I say it. We bring to Barg de Rosen up to.

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It's not a fun time. Yeah. On today's show, we're giving you our reactions to episode two, season two, House of the Dragon. Spoiler warning for House of the Dragon. We promise not to give you guys any book spoilers. I don't know, I read the books. I didn't read them like, I didn't read the book like crazy,

but it's hard not to talk about stuff. We're trying to try to keep it contained. We've heard you guys. We appreciate you guys as criticism. No book, spoilers. Steve, give me the spoiler one. We're getting ready to talk about House of the Dragon.

You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. To begin the episode, we have to put you in the know. The only person who can do that is Chuck Wagon. The only way to do that is the Midnight Manifest. All right. This is your Midnight Manifest for House of the Dragon Renier of the Rule directed by Claire Kielner, written by Sarah Hess.

The Greens are in a state of dismay after the death of Prince Jaharis. Agon is ready to start a war while Otto wants to use the death to his advantage by forcing Allison and Helena to attend a public funeral to drum up support for their cause. Blood confesses to his role in the murder, with Agon killing him and all the rat catchers drop. kingdom. Otto is furious at Agon for this action, but the king, tired of his grandfather, annoying Sir Kristen Cole as the new hand of the king for his idea to send Sir Eric, the personatic's twin Sir Eric, took Dragonstone to kill Renera. Meanwhile, Renera is

furious at the murder of the prince and suspects Damon, husband and wife, uncle and niece, get into a heated argument where Renera doubts that Damon ever accepted her as his queen, and at night, Sir Eric successfully stops the assassination attempt on Renera, but falls on his own sword at the grief of murdering his brother. And that's been your midnight manifest for this episode of House of the Dragon. Chuck, give it up. What'd you think? I think that this episode had some of the best acting and just scene work within the entire series to date.

And there were so many Looney Tune shenanigans on this episode. It was hard to keep track. So it was very much a whiplash. episode where I was just like, oh, this is dope. And there's some shit was happening. Like, it's already been said the entire time I could not concentrate on the funeral at all. Because I was like, yo, please don't let the lower homie's head just fall off, bro. You thought it was going to happen.

Like, the whole time, I was like, I was waiting for somebody to like punt that shit like a football. Same thing. Like, Baxter? Because here's the thing when the, when the shit stops, he's like, his head is like wobbling. It's like a bobblehead, right? Yeah. And I was just like, don't, like, they kept like, panning. over to all the poor folk.

And I was just like, they're going to run away with this head, bro. They're like... You thought the poor folk were going to take the head of the baby? You didn't know what they were going to do because they were all like reaching out like zombies and it was like, Queen, Toledo! I know, yeah. And I'm just like, these hungry motherfuckers are just like... You thought they were going to eat the kid?

I think they were going to eat the kid. I think they were going to huge... Like, if I was in that situation, I'm like, damn, that little baby had like, we can ransom that shit. That could at least... God damn. What? You're trying to flip a baby head? You got a babyhead fence? I did feel bad for the kid because I was just like,

not only is this just wild the way they stitched that shit on. It was just like Helena and like Allison had to look at that shit, wild. But also the Looney Tunes shit, like, dog was the look on Sir Crystal face when he's made hand of the king. No, that's not even the right. Sir me? I was like, I was like, all right. That seems the funniest scene of all game for us. I loved it.

That's the funniest thing. So this episode for me was both, it was indicative of why I love House of the Dragon so much and why there is a way, we talked about this last time, but House of the Dragon has more than, it's more than validated its existence as a prequel, right? It's validated its existence as its own story. but also why I like this show in a particular way this episode is indicative of it because of how it's taking this really intimate story

and then like making it about the entire kingdom right this is really about a fucked up family but because it is about all of these interconnected relationships and this person is this person's sister and this person is this person is this kid and this person is this yo sometimes this shit is hard to watch man Like this episode was emotionally gut-wrenching for me. Just the way everything went down and you think about the fact that everybody's related

and they don't know how to feel watching someone, like, we're talking about kids getting killed and uncles having ordered it and all of this stuff. And it's just for some reason, the scene between Renara and. and Damon was just fucking excruciating to me. Really? Yeah. It was very tough to watch because she's coming to terms with the fact that she's really alone. That there's all of this stuff, every single motivation around her, none of it has to do with anyone actually caring about her claim.

Everybody's doing it for their own reasons, and he is the biggest culprit of that, right? And but every single thing that they do wrong, she's going to wear it. And she can't impart that to them. And she just, it is so well acted. But in my dark, it's like so well acted that I was like, I felt hopeless. I know where this is going. But for some reason, this episode really, really, really affected me. Man, we start off.

We end on two twin brothers. Oh, man. Fighting each other over a sense of duty, subterfuge, espionage, all of that stuff. Like, literally, he looks at his own brother. He looks in the mirror and goes, I love you, but they have to fight. And it's kind of the, that scene is probably kind of the whole thing in House of the Dragon. And sometimes it's hard to watch. But for that scene, I was a little bit like, all, all, what's going on with security in this motherfucking place?

Because, first of all, so Kristen looks at, you know, Eric. he's just like, hey, you know, I need you to go handle business in Dragonstone. And he's like, alone? And even Otto's like, why the fuck would you send that guy? Like, this isn't a good plan. And then he just like waltzes up into the castle. He was just like the guy. As a, maybe this is because I'm a twin.

But like, if so Kristen Cole was just like, yo, go impersonate your twin and go walking to enemy territory. I'm like, I'm going to just call Otto up. And like, your brother's boss is like, we need you to imitate. your brother and be on a pod. If your brother came in here right now and sufficiently hated everything, we will waltz that nigger right up here.

It would literally take 10 minutes for us not to... It was just people... And I'm like, Charles? Like, all your brother would have to do is just say shit was whack. You'd be like, hey, what's up, Charles? What? Hey, what the fuck? Harrison Ford. Oh, that's Charles. Now, wait, does... What if I ever said against Harrison Ford?

It's coming. It's coming. Soon. Soon. It's coming. I don't know why. You're just going to fucking take it. Yeah, when Red Hulk pops out.

Yeah. See, look, look. So to me, I mean, obviously the plan is, it's tough, but he looks just like him. Otto. Otto literally looked at the two of them being like, bro, this is what you numbscoles have cooked up. This is your greens. You idiots. This was a great auto episode.

Oh, Otto. Oh, my God. I was the MVP of the episode. Yeah. I went from hating Otto this entire. seriously be like, damn, Otto might be the only motherfucker. You know, I know I came across in this episode?

Otto is essentially around a bunch of imbred imbezzles. Like, he is. Otto is essentially around a bunch of imbred imbeciles. They're all stupid. They can't stop fucking. He's the only person that has his eye on the prize. He felt

a little bit like Tyrone Lannister because what Tyrone. Arnold was the king and Joffrey was going crazy. Tywin would be like, Joffrey, that is not with the king man. He's the only one that kind of has,

I mean, these guys are both fucking assholes, evil assholes, but these are the only one that has any sense. And I felt bad for Otto. I mean, when Otto was like, when he was just like, oh, for real, you really thought your daddy wanted you to be king? I was like, I was like, bro, you got to relax.

So what do you think about the chest move that he had for like, okay, the funeral possession? Like, that's going to get sympathy. That entire, that, Like his, the Reese Eiffens, this entire episode was awesome, right? You have that scene where he's like, look, hey, man, tough thing about your son, but we can use this, right? How do we move forward?

Yeah. Let's have Helena and the Queen Dowager go out and look sad so we can drum up sympathy. Let's have that little, that stitching a little loose. Let's make Rainera look crazy. Boom, masterstroke. Yeah. And then Aigon and Sir Christian Cole piss it away. Yeah.

Oh, the racket your shit where I'm just like, you guys, went through all of this trouble to be like, I was like, at that point, if I was in the kingdom, I'm like, man, Renera really is the cruel fuck her, she's killing kids. And then five seconds later, Agon's like, we hang in all the wreck catchers. I'm like, bro.

You could have done that privately. He goes into the room and he's like, hey man, uh, what the fuck? And then he's like, I had this whole thing. We had a plan. And then he's like, well, yeah, then I had Chris and Cole and he's like. And also remember from an emotion.

standpoint, he also subjected his daughter and his granddaughter to that. Horrific. A ridiculous amount of trauma for what he thought was a political end. He asked

them to do that. I don't think he really cares about anybody other than Allison, just to be honest with you. Maybe even that. He asked them to do that knowing how hard it was going to be and then they did it for nothing. So he now feels like an asshole to his daughter and everyone

But also they ruined his plan Agon, great Agon episode Oh, Agon, here's the thing, shout out the actor, bro, sorry I don't have your name Tom Glenn Carney When he was smashing up the Lego set I'm like, yeah He went straight Kyleo Ren on that shit Straight Kyleo Ren on that shit.

And he's like, ooh But it sounds like you dug the episode Oh no, no, no, no, I was thoroughly entertained by this episode, I was frustrated by the dumbasses. Because at least I feel like in Game of Thrones, I was just like, all right, we do have, like, you had Tyrion and Circe. And you have people who could like, Aria, who could like string together a plan. Besides Otto, there ain't one motherfucker on, like, in this entire episode.

Are you saying, you're saying Otto's like 2015 LeBron in the finals? Yeah, bro. But all the Kings Landing on his back? Also, to be real, like, Reneer is like, Taman. How could you? Oh my gosh, I'm like, Renira. He could easily. You know, you known this man for how well.

I mean, she locked in, though. And this is why I love the show so much, because, like, the things it does explicitly versus implicitly, right? So she's sitting there, like, she has a conversational with Damon, has a conversational with Bela, right? And then she, like, you see her hanging with Agon, the third, and Vassarra's the second.

And she's sitting there, nobody's, like, it's silent, right? She's looking at her children. She sees the dust. in the wind, whatever. The camera goes through her eyes. She's locked in. She's talking to Masaria.

She's like trying to figure out what happened, right? I think like the backup episode was good for her to see like, you know, like, all right, it's time for me to get busy. Can't trust Damon, right? I don't have in my corner anymore. What do I have to now do to not only correct this error but get back on track? So I think like, I think she was solid. I mean, but if I'm going to be real, Reneera, she ain't shit as a, as a stepmother because

home girl who's her stepdaughter Bella Bella Bella comes in She's just like hey yo All right Your dad fucked off I need you to start patrolling the skies I'm like we already lost one kid

Well remember Jace wanted to do that Again Jay's like yeah I'll go fly my drink And she's like so she didn't want to send her son She'll send Damian's daughter though But she's sending her black queen up there to get got I'm like that's a little fucked up It's tough

Damon didn't even care. She's like, Dad. Yeah, well, Damon doesn't care about any of his kids. And she doesn't care about any of Damon's kids. These black kids need to get up at a Dragonstone. I swear to God, bro. They are not long for this. Damon is basically like a Thomas Jefferson type of white father.

Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. How is he going to dig his way out of this one? Let's see. Go for it. I don't know if you guys know. No, we know.

We know. We know. We know. We know. The Jefferson allowed his black children to live in slavery and didn't give a shit about them. that's how Damon treats her she walked by father

was a non-a-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h I'm not the father that stepped up I'm the father that stepped off go farm some indigo he didn't even really give her like eye contact he doesn't give a shit I mean also she had to go to Jay she's just like

tell me a tell me about her uncle what were your memories of him I'm like y'all don't even remember the ancestors in this motherfucker you are like It's crazy. It was a very tender scene with the two of them.

I will say that, like, the show seems to be about, like, the limits of trust and, like, what actually trust means. Because when she's talking to him about the fact that she can't trust him, there's two ways to look at this. Number one, she did set this emotion. Yes. Right? But she set an emotion with a very specific. directive to exact revenge and get retribution

from the person who killed her son, which also would be a very devastating blow to the other side militarily because he's so dangerous, right? And as a ruler, she's got to be able to trust that that will happen.

Damon went about it in, I guess, a less than specific way, but he also has a decent argument that he did not want them to kill any children? Do you believe that, though? Do you believe that he's, when he says to Reneira that he made a mistake? I don't think he cares. But I don't think that I would be surprised if he would have wanted that to happen,

knowing what the blowback would be. But I don't think he was, here's the thing. I feel like Damon that entire time strategically is playing it the way that his character has been throughout the entire series, which is, I mean, I don't want kids to die. But if you got, like, if you're leaving and leave with... That's what he essentially said. Yeah, he's like, leave with something.

Yeah. And I think that, I think honestly what Reneer is actually mad about is that she should have known better. Where it's like, she kind of knows what it means when you're like, Damon, I need you to go get one of them. Like, well, she says, I need you to go get Amen. But she knows that Damon's going to leave with that. Does she?

That scene around the painted table was so funny, bro. because... He's not saying shit. He's looking... And Renu's like, I'm like, I'm familiar with your game. And he's like, oh, I'm looking around like... David, my favorite character, bro.

David was... And then Renera's like... Because that's the thing. He doesn't even look sorry. He doesn't look sorry about the fact that that happened. It's more of the fact that he's, like, A, he's like caught

and out of the good graces of Reneera. That's the reason why he's... It's like they're talking about this thing that happened. Like, man, that's crazy. Wait, but we're not a child. Who was the knight? Who was like, Reneer's like, the realm can't think that I would do this.

And then the one homie's like, hey, I don't know, grieving mother. You know what I'm saying? That's an insane thing. I'm not saying they would, but I'm not in our... Bro, Reneer, stop being... Because, like, at that point, I'm like, Renair, you're not this dumb.

You know everybody's going to be like, damn, that was you, wasn't it? Well, I mean, yeah. It's easier. They would think this was me. It took a second to dawn on her. And also remember, another thing that the show does really well is it exacerbates everybody's flaws. She doesn't have very much experience as a ruler.

So, like, really, the decision to, like, take revenge against Aman was extremely risky. And, like, bring me his head, that was made off emotion. Yeah. Like if you were going to think about the way auto response to this. The way auto response to this is the way that you should. Like it's a tragedy. It's terrible. It's the worst part of it.

We can't get it back. So how do we move forward? That's not particularly the way people have been responding in this story. They are so emotionally vicious towards each other because of their pasts, right? It's like really like the most dysfunctional family unions I didn't been to. Family reunions I didn't been to. You know? Did your family reunions include dragons and eating children?

No, but other motherfuckers eight children. What? Let me tell you what I mean. Let me tell you what I mean. Just real quick. Storytime coming early this time. Okay. We add a family reunion.

It's like 91. I'm playing with one of my cousins. And my auntie goes. That's your cousin, right? You're going to play with your cousin? You're like, cousin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She goes, that's not your cousin.

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and not his son. I'm like I'm 10. I was immediately about to ask how old you were at this time. I'm like, I'm like I'm 10, like, I'll never forget, I'm not going to say the name, big, smile on her face. Cigrate, she's gleeful to tell me that, it's not his son. We counted back to months. Like, that's not his son at all.

It don't look like, look at, look at the size of you, man. Look at the size of you. Look at that boy. That boy, that little runt. That boy ain't no, like that boy, that's not his son. And so now I'm, you know, throwing the ball with him. And I'm like, how you throw the ball? But these are that subterfuge?

It's that seed of doubt. These are the things that are like that when people get around and they have all of these secrets that they say, like, hey, your brother, hey, my brother was afraid of me. Nah, he wasn't afraid of you. He didn't trust you. He never wanted to get you away. He wanted space and distance between you guys because he knew that you had designs on his throne. All of these secrets when they come out at these different strain times, if you've ever been around a family that's dysfunctional. These are the things that undercut people and take them out of their emotional attachments to people.

And it's happening in this show, but over pools and pools of blood. Like over pools and pools of blood. Like Otto essentially lost his relationship with his grandson. Like, but it happens because his grandson literally killed like 12 or 13 people. Yeah. Like the rest of the realm and his family is playing such a blood. blood tax for their unreserved trauma, it just hits in a different way to me.

Because I've seen this. And I think that's what the show is going to, I hope, smartly do for the rest of the season and probably series, is to know that the consequences of the small folk are the ones that are going to be the most dire to everybody. Because, like, we see echoes of that from the smithy with the relationship with his wife to know that, like, oh, well, you know, the king offered relief.

And he's like, yeah, it's not really going to come, is it? And then the scene in the... In the Brahmel. Yeah. Yeah. Brother. Looking real gangly. That dude, he need a sandwich.

Yes. He is sickly. God damn. I mean, that's how it was. In the late 90s, people were looking like that. Ah, man. Late 90s? You think this show takes place in the late 90s?

I know what I'm just saying. It just re-harkens back to a time when Vincent Gallo and Johnny Depp and all of them people were on the cover. It's Kate Moss. Right. Remember that? Yeah. Is Amon? Amon likes the milfs, I feel like.

Was that the vibe? Because he was just like, hey, don't even worry about the sex part. Just rub my head. Just that's a little bit like a little bit. That's how you know when a motherfucker is really sick. The people that go to the sex workers and go just talk to me and really a bedtime story. That happens in every movie.

It's just like, don't eat like, sis, I need more therapy. I need someone to love me. They don't even get jacked off or nothing. They just go there and they just like they just they just they lay down and they're like Hold me. And I'm not saying that that's, look, I'm not saying to each his own, but that's how you know somebody going to kill because they just want some type of human connection and they're in so much so that they'll pay for.

He's just there all naked. Why you got to. Can I pitch something? The whole. You want to these hold me niggas? I knew it. What? No, I'm going to say, I'm like this whole season of beef.

Hold Charles. No, the whole season of beef. Ladies, hold Charles. Hold, that's what you always, that's what you've needed. Like, you're one of these hold me niggas. Oh, what? Whoa. Hold me home.

Hold me home. I'm not even gonna like fucking fight this. Hell yeah. Like, I'm not at the brothel. I'm at the brothel. Y'all be like, is that Charles getting cuddled right now? It's just like, since midnight boys don't want to listen to me. This shit's straight.

They can't wait to see. They can't wait to see Charles coming. It's such an enemy and I am honored. All of the girls are like, Oh my God. It's him. It's him. My turn. My turn. A thousand just for some conversation. I was going to bitch you guys. Some people have been saying the entire beef that started the summer was kind of an Aman situation. And he admits that he regrets what he did.

A pillow talk. Because here's the thing, Aman. Amin's doing a lot of pillow talking right now. I'm just like, I don't know if this is going to go well for you. I don't know. I mean, it probably won't. But I thought this was. We saw the Sierra. What's her name? Massaria. Masaria. The syrup. Masaria, we see how that all, like, anybody getting close to the royals,

pillow talking to all that shit, you not. Masaria was the realist about it. And she was nothing but honest with both Damon and Renira. They burned her house down. Yeah. And she's like, listen, this is the consequences I get for fucking with you people. But I thought the Amosene scene was really good because, I mean, we kind of know what's going on with him, like his whole deal. For him to say it, like, I was, as a kid, I was bullied.

And then I got big. and then they cut my eye out and then, you know, I got this big dragon and I actually started this war like my life right now. Nobody used to like me. I don't know if they liked me now.

Like, this whole thing is messed up, right? And so how he then moves forward, like knowing that we know that he knows what his problem is and how does he then go in the future. I don't think he's going to be like, guys,

my fault on the Jay Sting. He's going to be like, yo, let's start killing folks. And you lean into that right. He's got to thug it out. He's going to thug it out. I was watching that scene. I'm like,

motherfucker like stand up. But now we know like, yeah, he's a soft side to him, but it doesn't really matter. So at the day, he's got to do what he's got to do. Right. So in the all time, because we've talked about the most treacherous and bad characters, right? When you think of treachery, fecklessness, criminal insanity in the history of Game of Thrones, you think, Joffrey. Yeah. Yeah.

You think Ramsey. you think what's his name's dad Tully Oh Oh that's yeah yeah Yeah you think You know there's there's certain guys that you think of But when you think of all time

Game of Thrones Fuck boys And I gotta I gotta call myself To the front of the congregation with this Because Oh please I

The Christian Cole man That was your boy bro Yeah that was your guy Stand up Stand up. Come on, bro. I can't. What?

It took a week, bro. It took a week. Shocking. Of all-time crash outs. I mean, D-1, like, this is level. Like, we never, this is 2012 messy. Brother, I mean, if you want to talk all the way back from season one, after when he said, hey, man, I'm not going to go.

So Orange is a Cinnamon with you on the C. From that moment on, I have not seen a character. Like, fall from grace. in a long time. We're watching the different show then. What are you talking about? This man crashed out with a child, this freaky ass nigga, and then he's smashing the fucking queen.

Okay. And now he's the hand of the king, did not deserve any of this. So if I'm just looking at the stats, I'm like, motherfucker. Yeah, but what is he doing in this episode? Projects out of his own soldiers that, like, you fucked up this entire watch thing. And they're like, know where the fuck were you? and sends off a dude to his death, essentially. But he gets the only person where I'm just like,

Sir Eric was probably like, damn, where was you because? And he was like, he's like, I got to get, I got to get this. This right here is the crowning folkboy moment in the history of camera thrown television. Yeah, easily. Like, it really is.

First of all, he was getting his dick wet. And that's the reason why all of this happened, right? King shit. I love it. And then he then he sells the fact that he's mad at Eric so well that I actually was like, yo, did Eric do something wrong? But I was, no, he did. Not for a second.

Did I believe? Not even a little bit. This is how you know who is the ultimate fuck boy shit? Because like, Eric, he's like, man, have you ever just like you worked an overnight shift, like the graveyard shift? You come home. Like, dog, I've been waiting to eat just a good meal all day. Finally got to the break room.

Just finally got to the break room. Sir, Christa Cole walks up. He's like, hey, motherfucker, I need you stop eating. Eric's like, bro, can I just, can I finish, please? And he's like, shout out to my two guys. I was just like, oh, yeah. Not my business, not my problem, man, Debo here, we're gone. But like, the singular amount of cowardice that the character has, it's phenomenal.

He's not a coward. If you pop up on him with the sword, you're going to get your action, right? but he's an emotional coward. Like, he's just, it's, he's, he won't face himself in the things that he's actually done and like the things that's led him to this terrible situation. Guys, what show are we watching, man? No, what are you talking about?

Here's the thing. Sir Kristen Cole is not long for this world. You know what I'm saying? Just in terms of this universe. But damn, if I was this ineffectual at my job and just motherfuckers just kept raining shit on me, he came up during this episode like what are you talking about

Christian Cole are you talking about just his position on the board like he's got a promotion he has not done tell us why this is a good Christian Cole episode because he has not done anything to deserve this like even when

when you say this you mean the job that he has in terms of like this motherfucker has fucked up more than any other character on this series and at every single turn the universe is just like damn

we should give him a fucking promotion. If anybody, if we're just Game of Thrones, I'm just saying he's playing the game. All right. Let me tell you something right now. This is a masterclass in Charles right here. I'll tell you why. Charles is looking at this

from an entirely self-serving. Yeah. And guess what? We're thinking about how bad Christian Cole is for everybody else. He sent the man to his death. Right? He sent a man to his death.

just because he feels bad that he was fucking somebody when he should have been looking at the... But also, Sir, Eric, did look at him. And he was like, where were you? And that's when he's like, we got to get him. And Charles is saying, well, shit, it worked out for him. Yeah. It did.

Boy, like, it worked. That's not what we're talking about, though. We're talking about how bad people do bad things. Charles was like, yo, he came up. I don't fucking care. It don't matter what he did. He did what he needed to. He ended up handing a king.

All right, so I'll ask you this. You know, you at the concert and Jay-Z's about to give you, like, the Rockefeller chain. Are you about to be like, damn, I don't deserve it? Or are you like, motherfucker, I'm going to just take this shit? I don't want the bob crab, Rockefeller chain. That chain ain't the same, man. Wow. You're saying hope can keep it.

So in like 96, that would have meant something a good more? I swear on my dad. Y'all niggas can get mad if they want. I don't want that bitch. They don't want to give it to them. me, so whatever, whatever. Shout out to everybody. Love everyone.

Make all your money. Do your music. Do everything that you've been doing. I'm proud of you. I'm very happy for you. You're in hope. Sent you a Rogovel chain. You're sending it back?

I don't want that bitch. The Christian cult thing is so, it's annoying, bro. He's like, she's like, you know, have you told anyone? He's like, no. What do you take me for? One who seeks absolution.

There is none for what I've done. He gets it. Right? Totally gets it. Wait, wait. what is he talking about? Because he's done so many things. Everything.

The entire thing. I'm like, so he's starting with having sex with Renira going all the way. The entire thing. And at the end of the day. I mean, hey, he's a fan. Well, and it was also kind of a fuck-up situation that like she kind of did or did not make him do that.

Wait, whoa, whoa, wait, wait. What is you? Steve? What is this? There's an argument being made that like when Reniro did that with Kristen Cole, that like she was like kind of like, demanding and coercing of him to do that because she's the princess and she demands that of the Kingsguard.

She was a child, Steve? Well, bullshit. What is going on, right? I really... He was just like, the whole episode in the first of the he's like, damn, if you really want me to, I guess. But Kenna, so you, let's move it to Allison right now. Yeah.

Because Allison's Queen Region, exactly, right? Yeah. Can she have a relationship? with the King's Guard that is appropriate. Can she have one? No. No. You know, so you're saying,

so I can't. Are they supposed to be book readers? They're supposed to not have sex. They're supposed to not have sex. So like he's already breaking that rule and he's broken this rule twice where he's not supposed to be having any relations with any of the royal. Broken and rule.

He's breaking the back. Okay, but here's the thing. How good is the sex really? Because I was thinking about this. for like ever since I've seen the episode. You were, you were thinking about... You have to follow with me here. You have to follow with me here.

Like, because it's... You were thinking about, so Kirch and Coles... No, don't stop, Joey, don't stop. Is Allison giving them the hook tour? Right? Oh, he just wanted to say it. Because... Oh, no, hold on.

What we do? Wait! Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. Wait, nope, I got to stop you. And I'll tell you why. Can I cook? I got to tell you why. Let me tell you.

That's the biggest milk. thing, milk merchant thing we've ever done. Joni saw a new white sex star. And he had to reach out to her. He's hoping that she sees this. The Hawk Toa had no place in this discussion. It did, though.

Did you see her being like, oh, they cut out my animalistic sex scene. Allison I didn't read that. That was crazy. Were you just like, we need that? I need that in my life. Look at this camera right now and tell Hawk 2 girl how you want her. Hey, I got somebody for you. I don't know who.

Staying you spin on right down. What do you want to explain to that house in? A Nigerian right here is my thought process, right? Yeah. Because at the end of the episode, right, she starts slapping them. Mm-hmm. And then they go, like, it looks like, all right, well, that looks kind of freaky. And they go off and have sex.

But it doesn't feel like they're enjoying it. This isn't something that's... You want for fun? This is self-loathing type of thing. This is not, like, two people who like each... All they do... First of all, you're so... That's, like, cute that you said, like, you have to like somebody and have a good thing.

I know. How would you have laid it down if you were Sir Christian Cole? What did he do wrong? All they do is fuck. They like to fuck. All they do is fuck. Every time you see them together is fuck time. It doesn't like it.

But why? I mean, I get why, but it's it's, it's bad. It's tough. It's bad watching. We know, but like I'm watching these characters. I'm like, I'm literally more confused than I've ever been before in my life. This is the clutch. No, I want better for these two.

I don't want better for these two. You want better? They are fucking, bro. Can a producers jump in? Can a producers jump in here? Can somebody can you can can, can you can. Kerm? Can you save Jomey, bro?

Y'all explain to Jomey why people like to have sex. I'm not saying. But why do these? I mean, here's thing. Well, I want to, I want to walk with you on this Jomey because I think that like the reason that Allison's kind of in conflict with like going back to him and saying we can't do this anymore, but we'll do it again. Yeah.

can't do this anymore, but we'll do it again. Like, this is the sort of, like, juvenile, young person, like... Trying to recapture their use? Trying to recapturing their use, because her entire existence from when she was a teenager until now was fucking age. She wants some dick.

Like, it's like... Yeah, what the fuck y'all talking about? What are we doing? Have y'all never been with somebody that's like, hey, we really need to stop doing it? And you're like, yeah, I get it. It's not. It's fucked up.

Am I deep in it? Yeah, you are. It's like, it's fucked up. We probably shouldn't. We're friends. We shouldn't go over that thing. And then like a couple days past and it's like, well, here we go again. Where you at?

I'm like, I'm at the house. Like, come by. I know you don't have to be in love, but these people like hate each other. Okay. All right. Hold on. That's when it's the best. Let me jump in.

Let me jump in. The thing we're missing here is the idea that this is a power play for Allison. Thank you. It's the idea that she needs every time that they get together. it's when she's slipping out of control and she needs to control something and every scene that they have when they're having sex is about her control of the situation.

Okay. So that's where we're going with. So I actually, I think that that makes a lot of sense except for the last time. And let me tell you why. What we end the episode on? What we end the episode on. I think that makes a lot of sense. I think that actual love scene between them

is a reversal of that. I think it's the first time it was reversed. and I'll tell you why. Because she asserts power on him and he doesn't move. She slaps him. She slaps him. He continues to, as soon as she comes in, he stands up and he's in front of her. And he, at this point, she's at her weakest and he's at his most powerful. He's the hand of the king.

He's like falling into all of this. She hits him. She hits him. He hits him. And he continues. to move towards her till he overwhelms her. So she just, she actually,

you actually in the scene, first of all, this is one of the most well-acted shows I've ever seen before in my life. You actually see in the scene, you see her submit. You see her mouth half open. You see her face soften.

Like, if he'd have left the first time she hit him, it'd have been like, oh my God, he's gone too far. That's not what happens. Like, she hits him a couple times and then she gives in, to him that he gives into her.

And now it seems like there is some sort of trauma bond between them. Like, and it's almost on equal turns. Because the thing about the first time we see them, he's going down on her, which is something that men should do. Make sure you be very open and pleasurable to your lovers. Okay, just make sure you're giving. All right. Wait, why are you guys going?

Like, should. We agree with them. You just didn't have to do that. That was like a side row. I mean, I just want to make sure. All right, women should have their pleasure. Nobody is disagreeing with you. Right.

So, then why are we all doing the, like acting like, like, man is a fucking degenerate? It's not wrong, but the same time, he didn't have to say that. Why not? There's a lot of women out there right now that are going, thank you, Van. We appreciate it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you imagine everybody just saluted? The YouTube, like, our guy, finally, somebody said it. The first time you see it, the first time you see them, they're like, the second time you see him, she is woman on top

that's her thing it seems like she's using him as a sex toy right and then but the last time you see him you see him advance on her you see and it seems like she kind of gives into it so I wonder how their relationship will be

Elaine is right until the last time I wonder how their relationship will be now moving forward which was the most he's kind of thing now that now that he now that there seems to be something that bonds them that is a little bit more than just her nature.

Because even, and the funniest scene of the episode easily, she's feeling like she's lost her power in the relationship because it's been discovered and she's feeling vulnerable about it, right? She's feeling vulnerable while because Helena discovered it. She misses it to Helena.

Helena's too fucking out there. But she misses it to Otto. She goes, I have seen. And Otto goes. I don't want to. I know what I don't. Which like, I get it.

I get it, Otto. No, Otto already knows. He's like, I don't. Already knows. It's done enough today. He's like, keep that. I have had a rough. Keep that to yourself.

Otto was like, my little girl, little baby, I love you. You're fucking, I don't want to fucking. I don't want to hear. We got bigger fish to fries. That's between you and your dog. I will say the thing that I think this episode does really, really well. because I do think the reading that you guys have on Allison and a relationship is totally correct

is that this is an entire episode where the women in this world are looking for men who not only see them as like nuanced individuals but will accept their power. Like we see like, um, Renice and Corlis in the bed having sex and it's like, or after and like Corliss,

you realize in that moment like he has kind of submitted to Renice and be like, no, like I get who has the power here just in terms of like right now you see Damon and Renira and Damon just can't she's not asking like do you see me as queen like am I your queen and he's just like he pieces out he's like fuck this and I think the thing that's happening with Allison and and so Kristen yeah is interesting because what when he asked Renera all those years ago hey you want to go plant some orange trees, that's the minute when he's no longer

submissive. That's the minute where he's just like trying to lead this be dominant. She's like, fuck out of here. And this is an episode where Allison, where it's like, damn, do I really like Sir Christa Cole when he's not being submissive? And I think the answer is probably not. Like, that's probably why

these powerful women like him. And that's why I had the initial question because when not being a king's guard, being handed the king now, maybe and Helena see him, maybe it's not a secret anymore. Maybe you kind of, you know, start to move things into light. Maybe people start to know. How? Does it still work if it's not taboo?

Right? Does it still work if, oh, I can do this now and it's not the end of the world? It's even more taboo now because here's the thing. If I'm Agon and I am basically like, hey, my right hand man is also the guy who's smashing my mom. I'm like, he does not know that. I don't think he would care about that shit. You don't think Aiman would feel a type of way about that? Oh, Amon might care. But I think that, I think, I think, I You don't think Agon would care? No, I think they would use it in different ways.

I think Amon, I think Amon would think about how he could use it to his advantage in terms of that. But I don't think Agon would care. I don't think Agon cares about stuff like that. Like, I don't think Agon, plus you're supposed to want your mom to be sexually satisfied.

I hope all you guys hope that your mother is. Do we want to bring up the tweet? Bring it up. So what's going on, Ben? That was a long time ago. It wasn't that long ago. Wasn't that long ago. Okay, a while ago I had a tweet and this was the tweet and I'll just go back to it real quick.

The tweet said... Why did you do this to us? Why did you do that, Trump? Tweet said something like, our mothers sucked off father's dicks, but we don't talk about it. Okay. That's something you want to tell. In the words of Charles, what are we doing here? All I want to know is let's say you're Agon in this scenario.

And your best friend, you hear he's blowing your mom's back out. Are you just like, yep, man, I'm promoting you within the organization. Is that what you're doing? So let me tell you guys something real quick, and nobody's going to believe me. I don't care. Play stop the cat. No, I believe that. I definitely believe that.

Like, I don't look at sex as this like super, like, Jomey, Jomey could fuck my mom. Yo! Oh, right. No. No. No. No.

Cut it, bro. Cut the show. I was doing. I'm going to see you guys. That's no, man. Nah. Hey, Chuck, I'm going to see you, man. Man.

You feel me? All right, guys. Yeah. I got it. What the fuck? Explain. Expound. If, if my mom.

mom was happy if my mom liked Jomi and Jomi like my mom and I'm sorry if my mom was happy and Jomey like my mom and my mom like Jomey what what if so you're not pulling an auto high tower if your mom sits you down be like hey I want to confess no no no I'm gonna be like right now I'm like I'm like I'm definitely gonna be like I don't need to hear but if my mom like I I, my mother was married for a very long time, right? She got divorced. I want nothing more than for my mother to have, like, a full life. So I want her to have a little, like, have a little tinderone.

No, you're such a liar because the moment you and Jomi get into an argument. I swear to go out of wrong. And Jomey's just like, hey, son, I need you to calm down. You're swinging. Well, no, it's not, no, it's not, no, it's not to son me. Don't try to son me. Yeah. Right?

See, no, but, but wait, but wait, but wait, but wait. That's more because. That's more because you being with my mom shouldn't be you sonny. No, because he's the first time he's like, who's the little brother now? He shouldn't be. It shouldn't be that, though. He should just be able to have a relationship with my mom. Right?

And they just be able to be cool. But I'm not tripping. I'm not the one that's like, like, if you tell me right now, hey, Van, I like your sister or whatever, like, hey, go. I want everybody to have fun and have expressive lots. I'm not tripping off that. I'm really not. I get it.

This episode, man, you. You have been lying up a fucking storm. I promise you. I promise you right now. Like, I don't want to go. I know it makes people uncomfortable. Don't need to lie, son. And that's why the tweet, appreciate you that.

Like, it's like, I don't know. I know the tweet piss people off and I maybe shouldn't have done that. Maybe. Just maybe. Probably, right? Maybe. But at the same time, the overall thing of the tweet is, yo, man, you shouldn't want your parents to, like, stop. experience in life just because you're

uncomfortable with them having sex just because you, your parents lived a whole life before you got there and they used to like to get down and I want them to keep getting down. I don't know if I need to hear Mama's hotels. I like, I don't. Maybe you don't. Maybe that's too much. But I wanted to be able to, I wanted to be

able to have it. I'm full experience, whatever, but Helena, there's a reason. It's not just the kid. Helena's like, bro, like you see in the funeral possession Allison is just like, I got you. I got you.

She's like squeezing, she's squeezing Helena. Like, I got you. And Helena's like, don't touch me. She's very much like, I know where that hands is. She's the actually,

to be honest with you, shut up. Y'all's, y'all's, honestly, I don't even think Helena is that bothered by it, really.

She's like, hey, I know, I know what you saw. Well, that's what they do, though. Yeah.

But she's like, hey, you saw something. Helen's like, yeah, I don't really, I don't really care, my kid just died.

Like, you gotta thank you. Did you notice that that was the funeral shroud? She was stitching in the episode prior. Yes. Because she's a war. She's a war. She's it.

Working out. Wait, before we have to talk about, we talked about it a little bit, but like, this episode, the big thing that you're supposed to basically feel is like the two Eric's having the stool. Yeah. And I think Condal has said that, because I was confused, that it was Sir Eric, our, the good one, quote unquote. See, it's not supposed to be no good one.

This is the thing with the Greens and the Blacks. Like, they're, it's supposed to be, but it ain't going, go ahead. No, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I know what you mean. But he basically did reveal, because I was confused when I was watching it.

I was like, who won the battle? So he said, or I saw this on Twitter, if I'm wrong, people yell at me, that Sir Eric, the Black killed Sir Eric the Green. And he's going up to Renera and basically being like, forget. Well, they make it confusing. purpose.

Yeah. Like, in the behind the scene, they're like, we injure them at the same time. We want nobody to know who wins the fight until the end. Because I thought they were going to, they were going to have to kill him because I'm just like, we don't know which one you want. And he knew that. Like, they knew that they would never be, even if they, for some reason, they're like, are convinced that it was him.

Like, they wouldn't trust him. I thought he did that because he was like, I'm a kinslayer now. He just killed his brother. Like, I can't. Well, it's twofold. It's killing his brother. It's the shame of letting that happen. under his watch.

His brother just walk into the castle and hear the kill the key. I'm gonna be honest with you. People got to stop taking responsibility for shit. They didn't do. I actually agree with this. Like if he did that

because of that, then it's natural selection that he out of here because he had nothing to do with that. Wait, so let me ask you this question. If my twin brother, like we're all hanging out, we're at, you know, the Lathan household,

I go out maybe for a smoke break or whatever. and he comes back in with a sword and tries to kill you guys. If I walk in, I dispatcher my brother. Are you guys going to trust me? Or are you like, you kind of have to like... Now, y'all both probably kind of got to get the fuck out after that.

Yeah, it's tough. I'm going to put that iron on you just to be sure. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to double tap you. How do you know? Just to make sure I don't know. At that point, like... Do you have similar hairstyles almost exactly the same?

We used to. Now my brother looks like J. Cole. Shout out, my brother. Oh, so he's got, okay. So then we got another. But that scene, another intense scene, I do wonder why Renair didn't run out of the room. I was wondering.

Well, she couldn't double back, and if she had to cross through them, she probably could hit. The other girl ran out. The other girl ran out, but yeah, but she was on the other side of those two fighting. Well, yeah,

they're not really concerned about her, right? And then she gets Sir Laurent in, right? And he's supposed to be protecting her. But she needs to be there to see that happen, right? She needs to see Sir Eric, whichever A or E, whatever one, I get got at the end. And I think it's really like that scene is a microcosm

of the entire show in the sense of, like, frankly, whether it was Erica of A, Erica of the E, Team Black or Teen Green, it doesn't matter. They're all dying. Just two brothers dying. And they had to, and to be honest with you, it didn't matter who won.

Yeah. They weren't going to, they couldn't live. Yeah. And guess what? What a wonderful metaphor for what we're about to probably see. That's a series of show. That's the entire show. Get ready.

It's just two people find over super stuff, and the end of the day, they both end up dead. So, my question, though, is, like, over these two episodes, which I've really, really enjoyed, I think season two is operating, honestly, on a level that sometimes season one could get to, but a little it would falter. So I'm having a lot of fun with the season,

but I'm wondering if these deaths, besides being kind of depressing, hit the same as the deaths in Game of Thrones, because in Game of Thrones, you had so much time with these characters that when one of them would die, it wasn't just the surprise. It was the emotional investment of like,

spoilers for Game of Thrones when like Ned or Rob or all of these people would die. You're like, I've spent so much time with them, this is a punch in the gut. And with like the Sir Erics, I was like... I don't think their deaths would have been classified as main deaths in Game of Thrones. Their deaths would be more along the lines

of like the Sand Spider dying or somebody like that, a character that you had been around with for a little while, the death was surprising but not necessarily emotionally traumatic because you haven't been with him a bit of, you know what I mean? So I don't think they would have been been, I think... But no one in the main cast, though. The death of the king last year was a big deal.

Eh, well, because we... Oh, shit, that that one was a big deal. As a surprise? That as a surprise. It was falling apart the entire season. Not as a surprise. We know he had to die, but emotionally, it was definitely a good point to see a goal. But even the, even the...

Even the prince, Luke, his death to me wasn't that. I was emotionally impactful. Same thing with the little, the prince, Prince Chiharis, where right now,

like I know that the characters feel these deaths, but sometimes I'm just like, well, Prince Chahris was in and was like in. Well, I mean, once again, that's more like a brand star,

not, not brand star. What's the other star that got shot in his ass with the guy. Rikah? That's more like his shit. Oh, whoa,

I felt that shit. When he was, well, because he's not in the street. I felt. You got to run. You got to feel that. 13.

I felt it. I felt it only because I knew what it would mean to John. But it's like I didn't really care that Rickon died. We didn't even know him that well. Plus, Rickon was a fucking moron. Like, it's, I don't know what about. Like, shout out to Morris Chestnut. You know, I didn't told you this before.

We got, the Zagin is just a thing. You're not shooting me. Like, like, like, like, Rick on. Rickon! Rickon! Rick on, he ran straight. They bust fucking Ricky ass. I'm not even going to get into Ricky

because Ricky was supposed to go play for SC. He's supposed to be faster than that. I'm telling you, you wouldn't have hit Reggie Bush with that. Bro. That's true. Bro. Bro, man, shout out to Reggie, bro. I'm glad you got your husband back.

My guy. But, like, you wouldn't have hit Reggie Bush with that fucking. No shot. But here's a thing. He would have took you embarrassing? At least a couple. And Rickon runs straight. Bro.

What's his name? Ramsey shot that bitch in the air. I'm like, He was playing with it now. I didn't. And by the way, just like start running. And by the way, no one helped him. John could have been like, hey.

Hey, boy, move. To live, right, right. Hey, bro, move. This nigga and shot the fucking. And, like, they just let this nigga run into the air. And then you want to act mad. Like, after he, after the arrow just came. He shot that bitch in the air.

Like, after the arrow just hit him. And, yeah, it's like, hey, nobody's, like, move, dog. Oh, stop. Like, hey, stop for a second. Slow down. He's got the. trajectory, obviously, bro, like, either move to the left or pull it back

a little bit. Honestly, we're making this into a video. Y'all think that you could outrun an arrow. It's not outrunning an arrow. It's not even outrunning bro. It's not even outrunning, bro. It's not, look at me. I'm not exactly fast twitch. But it's not outrunning. Do you think by zigzagging you could have done better than Ricker?

Yes. You're not going to shoot an arrow straight in the air and have that bitch just fall on me as I run into the arrow. You realize he could have just stopped. Forget about it. He could have stopped. The second he heard it loose, Ramsey is judging him based on the arrow.

I'm not saying Ramsey win the shot again. But you could just stop and the arrow would have just fell. I'd have a fun game with that bitch. I'd be like, ah, Ramsey, you can't get me. When are you recording next Wednesday? Yeah. I'm bringing a bone arrow. I'm testing.

And Sean? You can't do that. It's going to have a bone arrow. It's going to be the Nerf one. It's going to be the Nerf one. We should do a Nerf one now Yeah This is what we come to do

In the office right here Somebody bringing a Nerf bow and arrow I'm serious Oh no This is a video We're doing this on social The Ramsey Challenge I bet I can hit you

The Ramsey Challenge We'll By the way We'll invite All of the Spotify people Who've taken over our office And we'll We'll see

Who can actually We'll get Somebody got to be John Snow Somebody got to be Ramsey We're going to see Just watch And we're going to see if you can do

I bet you you But you can't shoot straight You got to shoot up All right You got to shoot up I bet you I bet you I bet you I can dodge that bitch I bet you

I bet you You definitely could I think anybody They had brain sense All right So real quick Steve has it on here And I'm glad he does

The Dog Tough Avengers of the Century I think he was sad He definitely was sad. He can be sad for a little bit but he's a dog that's on the street and I know that he'll find a better

a better situation. I don't know. I had it. What's the, you guys ever watched the saddest TV show episode of all time, the Futurada episode?

I don't want to talk about it. That's what I got the feeling of I'm like, this motherfuckerugust is not. It's just going to be like glacial bar. Jurassic Park, bro. I'm being so for real.

I, I reached out to the writer of the episode. That future of it. Just to talk to him. Jurassic Bark is the episode that we're talking about. Yeah, bro, it's so, I don't, bro. So you won't talk about Jurassic Bark,

but you're talking about our moms getting sucked off? Jimmy, you don't need to do that again. We just edited around that. One is a joyous occasion. I just feel like that's insane. The other one is something that's very sad. You know what? You know what you guys?

You guys will grow up and understand that life is about experiences and you'll want your parents to experience. I hope everybody's, the people that all of y'all love, Kerm, everyone. I hope everybody's parents. Arkham Asylum Batman couldn't have beaten that information out of me. Yeah, right. All right, it's fine. Act like sex don't matter.

You want people to be happy. So the dog got his come up and... Yeah, the dog. The dog was sad. The dog was sad. The dog was sad, but, like, here's the thing. I think it's going to be okay. I don't know.

I think it's going to be fine. But Bozeman was, like, connecting with the dog. Because when the dog, when the dog, Bozman was like, oh, I was like, oh, Bose. You don't have to worry about that. And we'll go around. I wish we could go around just beating the shit out of people. What I want is. I wish I could do that.

If I was going to be Batman, it would be Batman on behalf of dogs. Joe, I have a pitch. You're a producer. You know what? Don't what you're going to do. Don't pitch it on this bitch. No, we might get investors. You know how they have all those fucking shows like Dateline?

The best is going to be called Daniels Eck or whatever his name is because he's going on that bitch. Once you put it on here, don't put it. I was just going to say, instead of like, Dateline, we should have, it's a good idea I want the investors. You get to stop. You can't stop.

We can cut it. Leave it. Leave it. Because this is why niggas don't go far. I don't want to forget it. You don't forget it. Leave it. Leave it.

I have so many of the ideas. Please stop. Leave it. You know, you know how, like, Dateline, they're always like, we caught you. You're a predator.

I would love to do that shit where it's like, dogs are like, To catch a dog sucker? Like, you know, all those motherfuckers do I, like, have to be like, yo, I got these pit pools and they're fighting. We should be like, we should run up on them and just start, like, beating the shit out of them. Charles, can I tell you something?

Yes. You know what the funny thing is? That's a fantastic. To catch an animal abuser is fantastic. And it will be on Spotify Live. You guys don't want to see, like, the before and after. I would love that show. Do we?

Do we? That's real. Good idea for you. Yes. Did we get Chris Harrison? No, see it over there. Because here's the thing. Van would be sad each and every episode.

Like, it'd be like, no, you'd have to pull Van off of these people to stop. Hey, come in right here, sit down, sit down. Why'd you bring that kibble with you? You traveled all this way. Who are you here to meet? Who are you here to meet? What are you here to do? What's why I hear barking in the guy?

Oh, no, I'm not just, I'm not doing anything. I just want to come to these dogs and minister to them and tell them why they shouldn't be fighting. All right, that's a wrap. Every Tuesday and Thursday, the House of Arr will deep dive into House of the Dragon and the Acolyte. Every Monday and Thursday, the Midnight Boys will give you their reactions

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Additional production from Arjuna and Ron Capal. Chuck. Thanks out. Mr. Holmes loves to be held. And our dogs will always be our bugs. Jomey isn't here to fuck. Back to me. Wait, so if the three of the Midnight Boys went ski ball,

ski ball, ski ball right now. And you weren't invited. You wouldn't say, you wouldn't bring it up at the show at all. Y'all don't have, y'all had a reason. Play the song. Play the, please stop the cat right now.

Doug, you are such a liar. Give me an example. Give me an example. Give me an example right now of when that has ever happened. When you said where was the invite? Like, no, I'm not saying.

If I invite you to something and you don't come, it's cool. But like, where somebody does something and I go, it's just not in me. So if we all go go-karting,

you, will never bring it up. No. You are such a liar. You say that. That's not true. It would be a whole thing for weeks on the pot. Too much pride, bro.

They can't catch you caring. I really don't believe you, bro. Too much pride, bro. Man can't be caught caring. I bring that shit up. If y'all went to go-kart without me, I'd be like, all right, it's dead. Like, on my mama, if y'all was like,

if I was going on Instagram, saw y'all three hanging out without me. We were on live. It's about to be hands. There's no more squabble. It's too much money. Man, you like take it to therapy? Is it like a word like, you feel it, but you just don't want anybody else. You guys, I'm telling you right now.

I'm telling you right now. I do. I don't feel the, bro, I don't feel entitled to somebody else's party. Y'all, y'all went out, y'all did y'all thing, y'all have fun. Cool. Like it's not, I don't feel entitled to some, but I've never been like, hey, Pete, do you know, by the way, this might be a Louisiana thing because, you know, I didn't really start running into that until I came to L.A. Yeah, the FOMO out here is...

I didn't really start running into that until I came out to L.A. It was like, like, something happened. You didn't invite me. First of all, in Louisiana, you don't have to get invited to something. You just show up. You just show up to people's shit. You know. Which can get hairy, I'm sure.

It's like, I want to, like, everybody over there, what y'all doing? Oh, we're over here doing there. Okay, here I come. No, I think it depends. Like, it's one thing. It's one thing if you got your own thing going on or Charles got his own thing going on. He's outside living his life.

That's cool. But if three of my boys and hacking out without me, that's kind of crazy. The midnight boys go do some fun ass shit and all purpose. We're like, we should do that. We should just not invite Vann and just see if you bring. That feels so dangerous. I don't like that. I don't like that.

I don't like with that. I wish Kalika was here. Like, I wish Kalika was here because Kalika has come up to me before. She was so mad that we didn't invite her. We forgot. And I'm like, Hey, man. I felt like Clueless.

Remember that Clueless? Yeah. The dude from Clueless. It's like, you bitch is blind. By the way, it's more of like if we need a safety net, we invite everybody. We invite everybody, but Van, but we got to bring Kalika. Oh. She loves that type of thing because she's a part of this toxic invitation culture that people have.

Like, y'all know right now. that if there's something happening at the crib, y'all can pop up at any time. We thought about making the Q for Jomey. Like, it is, is, like, that y'all can pop up at any, it's not a big deal. If something happens and y'all go to three of it,

I swear to God, I'm gonna be like, oh, I don't know, maybe there was some sort of reason. I've invited Kerm to several things. Kerm never comes. Kerm really never. I have a reason every single time. And that's, and that's gravy. So you know what that means?

I will never invite Kerm to in. You know, that's what's going to happen. Isaiah always Isaiah comes through Isaiah popped What happened last week? I texted you I followed up with Jew

or you didn't follow up Don't put me on last night Is it true? All right We gotta start rolling We're catching man and some lies No no no no no no He's right about that