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We got to 30K
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We did?
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Oh, shit.
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So, Steve, man, what does that mean for you in your career?
I think that means that this is going to be my last episode of the podcast.
Going out of the bag?
Yeah, no.
It's grand opening, grand closing.
We got to find, we got to find Steve a red hoodie and some jeans.
Oh, man.
We're going to do it the right way, right?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, well, that's...
Steve, are you feeling the pressure, Steve?
Are you feeling because you got to do it?
Yeah, I feel like in some ways I've been training my whole life for this,
but I'm not quite sure.
Training your whole life for what part of this bed?
To say, to say what word?
To say, inform the audio.
What word are you supposed to be saying?
That's more of across that bridge when we come to it type of situation.
Of course.
To freedom.
To freedom.
Is the Edmund Pettus Bridge?
Right.
You have been preparing for it.
Yeah, it's crazy.
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Every Tuesday and Thursday, House of R will deep dive into the House of the Dragon of the Acoly.
Every Monday, the Midnight Boys will be giving you our reactions to Hot D.
Yes, this Tuesday will be live at 7 p.m. on YouTube reacting to the finale of the Acoly.
And on Thursday, we'll be back for the boys' season for finale.
Got a lot of work to do in that finale, as far as most fans of the boys are considered.
Okay, got a lot of work to do.
We're going to see how they end up this season.
I think right now that if the boys is able to make us care about the needs,
next season. Maybe this season is something more than a 7.5 out of 10, but
there's a lot of work to do with the boys in their finale.
I mean, also, every Sunday.
Really quick, do you think that they're going to release the finale of the boys after what
happened this weekend?
Oh, my God.
Oh, boy.
I was wondering.
Every Sunday, chocolate drones.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Right up after the latest episode of Hot D-Ns.
I tell you guys right now, if we start talking about it, it's going to be a whole theme.
So it's a good question, though.
Charles, I'll be honest with you.
The emergency reshoots.
I'm just asking.
I was wondering, I was like, is Amazon going to be like, hey, let's wait to week.
It'd be so funny, you just go to here.
The Amazon just pretends like the boys finale wasn't supposed to happen.
They just move on.
It's nuts.
It's a nuts world.
More stuff happened this morning.
Oh, boy.
All right, anyway.
Look, you guys, spoiler warning for House of the Dragon.
No book spoilers.
But if book spoilers come out,
I don't know, guys, you're still with it.
Really spoiler warning, Steve.
All right.
We're getting ready to talk about
How's at the Dragon.
You're listening to a reaction podcast.
The spoilers are coming.
All right.
We got to put you in the know about this episode.
The only way to do that is the Midnight Manifest.
Only person who can do that is Chuck Wack and Chuck Thick away.
All right, this is your midnight manifest for House of the Dragon, Regent, directed by Claire Kilner, written by Ty McHell.
Kristen and Eamon returns to King's Landing where they parade a dragon's head through the streets while claiming Agon had a victorious battle, but the small folk don't give a shit.
In fact, we want to get out.
Agon is burnt to a crisp and hanging on for life, which is when Aeman swoops in during the council meeting to take his place and become Prince Regent.
Jace flies to the phrase and in a bit of white boy diplomacy.
gets their support in turn for his mother
gifting the phrase Heron Hall at the end of the war.
Damon is still off that juice at Harenhall
and the Riverfolk begin protesting
his barbaric war crimes against the Brackens.
And Jace and Reneera cook up a scheme
to get faster children and forgotten Targaryen descendants
to become their new dragon writers.
And that's been your midnight manifest
for this episode of House of the Dragon.
All right, let's get into it.
Fellas, fellas, the guys,
House of the Dragon is on a hot streak.
Did this episode keep that hot streak going?
I mean, I actually, I'm not saying it's better,
but I enjoyed this episode more than I enjoyed the last.
This is the type of episode that I think I come to the show for
where I think they did a lot of good work
really showcasing in this episode how not only are all these
characters fighting over nothing.
But now you start seeing all the characters realizing that what they're fighting for
is almost not going to be worth the price.
And I think one of my favorite scenes in the entire episode was when Allison is in the
small council meeting and she just loses the spot to, um, to agent.
And you just realize, she's like, oh, I just built my cage again.
and it's just it's dawning on her.
It's dawning on Kristen Cole
what it means to have a war with these dragons.
It's dawning on Renera,
how stuck she is in this castle
and how, honestly, no one in her counsel
really thinks that she should even be in charge.
Like, yes, they are behind her,
but only because her father was like,
oh, I guess this is the person who should be my heir.
So I thought this episode did a really, really good job
of just situating where the conflict is, how dumb it is.
And then, honestly, I kept laughing at all the small folk being like,
I thought they were gods and the other guy.
I thought that was good.
And it was good, wasn't they?
I think dragon meat tastes good.
That was crazy.
I was actually, would you guys eat a little bit of the dragon?
For sure.
I bet it's very gaming.
It's got to be, right?
I mean, throw it on a grill.
I mean, if you ain't got no food, dragon on them,
menu, baby. Yeah.
They did, you know, this whole episode was about people trying to get that meat.
We all, absolutely.
You know, when there's not enough meat, you're going to run to the other place.
When there's, when the meat, this is the thing.
When there's, when the meat is too small, you're going to try to leave the castle.
That was the whole lesson.
Also, also, the meat won't save you.
Allison is looking at Sir Kristen Cole.
Like, I thought the meat would save me and he's like, there's dragons now.
The game's changed.
Meat didn't save them.
And then, you know, if the meat is not satisfying you, you see a dragon, you might try some strange meat.
The whole thing is the meat.
It's a fight over the meat.
If you're offered a drink, you also might alter the meat up to your mom.
Allison and Renea are now realizing that what don't they have, that they need to be taken seriously by the rest of these guys in their small council?
what don't they have, Charles?
Stop.
They all had a meat.
Joe.
In all serious is, no.
There's a new section.
Jomi, all right.
We'll clear out.
Jomey.
It's not clear out.
It's not about being woke.
It's about a song there.
She's taking, yeah, yeah, you saw the trajectory.
I could have believed he was going to take it there.
That's crazy.
I guess you could say that we're not.
I'm not.
There's a scene.
There's a scene in this episode.
where the dude is actually saying
it's funny as hell.
We want me.
We want me.
That is true.
He just said that we want meat.
But to be fair,
and then the guards like, pause.
They were like ladling out the rest of the food
and they were picking the oranges or something.
That looked nasty.
And it was like moldy and shit.
And I'm like, dog, I'd be the one chair.
Like, we want me.
It's down bad in Kingsland.
Can I say something about that scene?
Can I say something about that scene?
And I want to hear what the men boys have to say.
That's a brilliant little scene.
And for any of the, any writers out there, young writers,
I'm giving fucking advice to young writers,
like I have six Academy Awards.
You have one.
That scene was brilliant visual storytelling.
Yes.
We go from watching people at the top of the social class in Westrose,
eat
fuck
argue
that's what the show is about
that's what the show is about right
every time they have a meal
I mean the meals don't look good
because they ain't got no stoves
but or or
air fryers or nothing
the meat always looks
fool look raw
they you know whatever
but they all eat well
and you see the ramifications
of their petty
squabbling
in the fact that these people
this woman is picking through
oranges and she has to pick the least moldy orange.
Yeah.
And you see, you see how this is actually affecting people's lives, all of this,
this conflict and divisiveness at the top.
Yeah.
It kind of, if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense in the world.
You know what I mean?
It's like a great scene.
You didn't have to talk about it.
You could just see it.
Two quick shots and you see how the people are living.
It was fantastic.
Men, boys, what did you guys think about the episode?
I thought it was a great episode of TV.
Gamer Thrones does this thing usually where the big battle episode is like the penultimate or something.
So it's never the last thing you see is like a big battle.
And so the episode following it usually like has some emotional and emotional and story beats that we really need to see.
And I thought this episode did a really good job of letting all the stuff play out between Coralus, between Allison,
then AIMON, everybody who was affected by that battle
had to wreck him with something this week.
And I thought it did a really good job of Lenderstone.
Like kind of not like super reset,
but like Lain and Berto, this is different.
There are dragons involved now.
It's real.
Because it's very easy to have an episode like the prior one,
big dragon battle, massive siege.
The war's kicked off.
Okay, now we're off to the races.
But instead, this is a bit more of a like,
okay, we hit you with something big
and then we dial it back to see
just how,
what the world thinks about something
as big as, hey,
dragons can be killed.
Kings Landing is in shambles right now
because of this blockade. Everybody is
in, like, is
destitute.
And now we've got to, like, kind of, like,
start to realign ourselves on the board for
the high towers to make sure that they have, like, the best
sort of, like, position in their high console.
Allison's an absolute shambles
with trying to reassign
both
A-Gon and
or A-Mond, excuse me,
and
and have to deal with
like the actual like
repercussions of what she's done
and all of this mistake, this mistake
that she's made and I think that that scene in the
small council room is probably the
highlight scene of this episode
because again, like you say that she reassembles
her cage once again because
the like the theme
of like sexism and misogyny in
Kings in Westeros is like
very apparent here.
And I would say that that's kind of like
the reassembling of like,
okay, now once war happens, this is where
men and the people that
like adhere to what they do
really start to suffer.
And we see that on screen the entire episode.
I think it's great.
It's very funny.
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The various characters, it starts dawning on them.
They're like, Doug, what am I going to say to the motherfucker with the biggest dragon in the room?
It's like, Alta, it's like, well, I was Queen Regent.
And like, like, so Kristen Cole is like, bro, I said,
saw that dragon in action, bro.
It's whatever Damon says.
And it's similar with the blacks where it's like,
it dawns on them.
They're like, how are we going to defeat this big ass dragon?
They're like, what if we just had more dragons?
And I was like, oh, it's, it was interesting in this episode
where this episode keeps returning back to the fact that all of these people
have been living in peacetime.
So now they're just getting to the point where they're just like,
well, if we want to win this war, either we have to have the biggest nuke
or we have to have the most nukes.
And I thought it did a very, very good job of, like,
the people in power are going to be the ones
who have the dragons.
And unfortunately, pretty much everybody but Aman
does not realize what that's going to entail for the small folk.
I thought there were two super interesting things
that happened in the episode.
That's very well said by all of you guys.
I think there are two super interesting things
that happened in the episode that, like, changed the show
or change the future of Westrose.
So one is from the real world,
and then one is from other comic book lands.
So, you know, Superman lands on Earth,
and he starts to save people, he's a hero.
Like Superman, you guys have heard of him before.
Cal L.
From the planet Krypton, from the Spar, El.
Okay, so two things happen.
One thing after the other.
The first thing that happens is,
once Superman is saving the world, right? Humans, they compete. They compete for the love and good
graces of Superman. That's the first thing that's going to happen. Superman is an incredibly powerful
being. They're going to look at him and they're going to go, the best place to be is closer to Superman.
On the good side of Superman. Let's see how we can work with Superman. A lot of people are going to do that.
Then kryptonite is invented or it's found.
You know that he has a weakness.
Then one of the people are going to do, at least some of them.
They're now going to compete for the kryptonite.
Like at first, you're going to compete for the love and the warmth and the protection of the supreme being.
But once you figure out that you can kill it, you are now going to compete to be the person who can do that.
the moment they see the dragon being paraded
through
King's Landing, it fundamentally
changes the psyche of the people.
It is such, it is maybe
from what we've seen on screen,
the biggest miscalculation
by the Targaryen dynasty
ever. It ended
their perception
as these ethereal, eternal, special, godlike beings who are right next to these creatures
who maintain the order of all of Westeros.
It just made them something else to kill.
That is the beginning of the end of the Targaryian dynasty right there, when you take away
what the people think it's supposed to be.
We see that all the time.
like Nixon lies and people go, wait a minute, the president,
hey, what, what?
Like the president is a criminal.
I mean, we probably thought that they were doing some shady stuff,
but the president is actually a criminal.
He's not like the greatest and best of amongst us.
And then that changes the presidency.
People go, oh my God, what the hell now?
These guys up there got lies, whatever's going on.
And now, you know, the fucking mussels off the hot dog or whatever.
But and the second thing that happened,
is, you know, I remember back in the real world where when there was talk about women in combat,
back in the day, when it was talk about women in combat, whether or not women should want to be able to be in the military, in combat situations, not in the military, but in combat situations.
And it was all of these platitudes, we had all these ladies that want to go out and fight for their country, but there are all these platitudes as to why.
why they couldn't. There were these psychological platitudes that they would say, like, they would say, hey, we don't know how male soldiers are going to react to seeing women, like, blown apart or killed in action. We don't know how they're going to respond to that. They might look at it and think that it's, it might remind them of their mothers or their sisters or their wives or whatever, right? Like, we don't know how they're going to respond to that. We also don't know how if you put men and women,
out there in battle together in situations that are dire or whatever if the women will be saved
from the men. And the entire argument for a lot of women was organized around how men would react
to women being in battle. That was the way that it was the does zone. And it just couldn't be equal.
It couldn't be equal if you looked at it that way. By the way, the women were saying, well,
look, this hampers us, one of the arguments, this hampers us from rising up in the military,
because, hey, if we can't be a part of combat,
then a lot of times that's when you get promoted
because of what you've done in combat situations
or your commander, things like that.
Now, all of that's changed now.
But remember these arguments being had in real time
when they were still like, actually,
I don't know anything about the military and the army or whatever,
but I would assume that's changed.
But all of these things were arguments that were being had in,
and I watched these women say,
both Allison and Ranera say, hey, look,
if I nobody has any combat experience here if I'm not allowed to show my combat experience I'll never gain any combat experience and the fact that there is something that I can't change is the fact that I'm a woman you guys are using your malness and weaponizing that against me and the frustration that they both felt in this situation connected those two characters and the show works best with those characters are them
thematic sisters, thematic twins on different sides of a dividing line.
And the reason why I think this episode is so strong is because it's one of the strongest
episodes that shows that these two women are essentially in the same position.
They're surrounded by a bunch of subpar meat.
Very true.
Yeah, it's like there are two sides of the same coin, right?
where we have the we have the what you're talking about where both of them are like the misogyny's rampant
this week right alicent is like yo i think i should be queen region again i have the experience
like actually draggers are involved it's no place for a woman same thing for rinerer right if
somebody needs to go fight i need to go fight they're like actually sit down pretty late it don't
worry about it crazy right but then you see them with their with their kids you know and how
how different Allison is from Reneira.
Where Reneer is like,
you know, of course she wants to protect Jace.
She wants Jace to, you know,
Charlie lost one of her sons.
You know, she doesn't want Jace to sever the same fate.
But when Jace is like,
yo, we got to do something.
Here's what I'm thinking. She's like,
hmm, maybe this might be something we can do.
Meanwhile, we saw last week,
when Agon came to
Allison with a problem,
she was like, actually, you're a loser.
You always been a loser.
don't do nothing, you suck.
And it's interesting to see how both of those people,
they've lived similar lives,
they have the same problems,
but they deal with them different ways.
I mean, this episode was, I think,
the first time where I actually, like, felt for Ramira,
and I liked her, because her talk with Jace
before they come up with the plan,
she comes off as, like, such a petulant child almost
because Jace comes back with, like,
Mom, look what I did.
Like, I got,
like I got us this big win.
And you can see that she's jealous.
And she's jealous because
because Jace
is a teenager.
He gets to run off
and he gets to do the thing that she's wanted
to do since she was a child.
I can see it. I didn't quite read that
as jealousy. I think it seems
as more as she's like, she's had a
bad fucking day of a bunch of men
undermining her at her own small council
and then she can't even get a hold on her son
wanting to go off and do some things without her permission.
Yeah, but think about what her son gets.
I know, I understand that.
Which she has not gotten.
The thing I think that sucks for her is that like,
Reneira has gotten almost everything she's wanted.
Even if she's not on the Iron Throne,
she has a council.
People are listening to her.
But because she's a woman,
she can't do the thing that Jace can do,
which is like, I'm not going to listen to my mom.
I'm a hop on my dragon.
Basically, Jase is just kind of like,
he kind of scares them.
them into a submission a little bit.
Like, there is a one point.
He's a little diplomatic about it.
You guys are worried about Vagar
with my dragon right there.
And I saw that moment
where it's like, it's not.
It was cold to me.
Yeah, Jason's great.
I came away with this episode being
and it's interesting, Charles.
That's a very interesting.
I didn't read it as jealousy,
but now that you say that,
I'm thinking, maybe it was.
I got a question for all of y'all.
Does Jace need more minutes?
Yes.
Oh, geez.
No, this is why he doesn't need more minutes.
Because the minute he doesn't need more minutes, because the minute he
got like, he was like more wine and you realize he's about to close the deal. I'm like,
oh, this motherfuck's got. Like, I was like, he's too good at his job. He's too affected.
Yeah. He was running certain. Because there's a thing too. I was like, is Chase just a pretty boy?
Or does he got some like, some thinking skills? And when he came up with the dragon plan, he's like,
oh, we got a bunch of dragons. Why don't we just get some dragon writers? I'm like, damn, this boy too good
at his job, man. We know this. Not long for this world. If you're good at your job, but no, like, I do think,
I don't think she was like jealous in terms like,
yo, fuck my son.
I more so thought it was like,
oh, Jace is getting to be,
is coming to his own,
into his own as like potentially a war hero.
Someone who gets to like fly off half cocked
come back with this big win.
And we haven't seen Reneer a win once,
like win this entire season.
Sure.
Yeah.
She's strapped.
Nah, Jay's been locked in.
But do you think,
but in this situation,
his wins are her wins.
I guess there could have been a little jealousy
But here's the thing
She doesn't get more
There's I think she wants
In this episode
I might be reading wrong
I think she wants the glory
Of being able to fly off in combat
Like her niece
Like these other people
And for the people to love her
To build up this legend
Which
It's kind of the thing
Where I'm just like
That's the problem with Aiman
That's the problem with Agon
That's the problem with a lot of these rulers
Where I'm just like
Do you want to be a ruler
who's talking about taxes and how to feed the people?
Or do you want to show that this is your divine right
and you deserve to be this?
Because it's like the council to me is not wrong.
If I'm going to be honest,
Reneera, Agon, Aiman,
what have any of these motherfuckers done to deserve leadership?
They're not necessarily that good of leader.
Well, that's, I mean, now we're getting into the whole breakdown
of whether or not like this like bloodline thing
is even worth the price of ruling, which is like, that's...
I mean, too.
Take the anticipates of the point for the show.
To what Van said earlier,
there are two moments in this episode.
This is why I liked it so much
where the Targaryans miscalculate
and you can tell.
It's when they parade,
they're dragging through the streets,
and it's when Jase and Ramira have the idea
to basically go through the line
to get more dragon riders.
And I'm like, wait, you guys,
the only thing that Targaryans have
is your silver hair
and this belief that you are divine rulers
and that dragons are gods.
Now you've shown all the small folks
that dragons aren't gods, they're just meat.
And now you're saying, hey, you don't even have
to have to have silver hair. You don't even have
to be that close to the bloodline. You could be
a bastard or anything and you can get on these dragons.
And I'm like, oh,
you got, like, this is how everything falls
because you guys aren't even propping up your own
myth. They deluded the product.
I said next week is going to be an episode of
finding your roots and I think it's going to be really funny.
I just be like, you are in fact one-fifth Targaryen.
I mean, also it's-
So this is my thing with the, this is my thing with the Dragon Riders.
It depends on who they get to ride the dragon, right?
Okay.
So much in life depends on who you let ride.
Okay.
Right?
You don't want to just let anybody ride.
You can't.
Because that's how you end up, yeah, 18 years, you're in a bad situation, you know,
send a video type of situation.
Jesus Christ.
And so it all depends.
If they go get,
they were talking about tarleys and all of these other people.
If you go get someone else from these great houses
and you let them ride your dragon,
you're all on it, ride it from the back.
If you let them ride your dragon,
then what you're going to end up seeing
is those houses weaponize.
They got to get some bastards, man.
they got to get some bastards
and I tell you why
if you get the bastards
if you go find the bastards
then you can bring the bastards
into your house
because that's what the bastards want
they want a name
they want a wing of heron hall
they want to be able to come to court
but see if you go start spreading
dragons around
can you imagine afraid with a dragon
no
can you want to never
The dragon?
You don't want to spray with a dragon.
You don't want to, what's the, the, the, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, the, uh, the
dragons of the, uh, the dragons are the ones with dragons.
Oh, it's all.
That's nuts.
You know what, you want to know what this is in mind.
Alanister with a dragon.
You don't want these people with the dragons.
Like, you, that's not what you want, man.
Is house black?
It reminds me of them, like, they're doing that thing where they're going to the hood and they're
propping up their little army table and they're like, you get a hell cat if you just come over
to the blacks.
And I'm just like,
like you just don't want to give anyone a hellcat.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to get?
I'm just one.
Like, they're going to the rest of the small ones.
They're incentivizing.
They're incentivizing.
They're like, yo, join our cause.
You know, we get you a little Camaro.
We get you a nice thing.
We'll put you through college.
It used to be a Camaro, man.
Wow.
Used to be a Camaro.
Now we got to have a hell for Hellcat.
They must have changed.
So they, they, they're spinning out there.
They're spinning out there.
hey man, I got this hellcat for you.
I need you to go kill the ops.
I guess.
They're killed for less.
What am I talking about?
They killed for less.
Oh, what are you?
I don't want to get off.
I don't want to leave the Jay situation real quick because I want to move on because this
was his coming out party.
This was his, his, I remember that game.
Austin Reeves were crazy.
Oh, my God, Austin Reeves can play.
Like, this was his game.
So Charles, real quick.
You feel like this makes him a target.
Jomi, you feel like this means that there's going to be a little bit more for him.
What's the future of this character?
This seemed to be the episode where he became her most trusted advisor.
She can't trust anybody else.
Nobody else respects her.
Nobody else is actually even willing to collaborate with her.
Part of the reason why this happened is because he was actually willing to listen to her enough
to agree to solve problems with her.
which it doesn't seem like anybody else on her counsel was willing to do.
So is this now the duo, is this the pick and roll duo of the blacks right here,
Jason Renair now?
I hope so.
I mean, the thing that does scare me a little bit is like, I was like,
is this really a total win for Jace?
Because at one point, he's sitting there and they bring up Damon.
And he starts talking big shit about Dave.
I'm like, Damon's trying to become a thing.
They don't know that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm like,
they don't know that yet.
So like here's the thing,
Jace,
this wasn't a coming out episode for him.
He did an amazing job.
White boy diplomacy,
at least now is working.
Unfortunately,
it's not working in our current reality.
But I was like,
is this going to bite him in the ass?
Because they promise it a lot of shit.
Well, I mean,
that they can't deliver.
Well,
it's a hair brain scheme for sure.
I don't know.
He was like,
we want hair and all.
And he was like,
cool, bend the knee.
No,
no,
that was fine.
I think as far as like,
finding the bastards of the illegitimate
Targaryans. I'm like, this is a
half court to a half court shot.
He's promising hair and all, all this shit.
I'm like, the river folks,
they're not going to have that, but
honestly, though, honestly though,
it's like a promise in a war that's probably
going to be decimating a lot of people.
Like, we'll reassess those promises after the fact.
We're hearing Jace were laughing a little bit.
I'm like, y'all evil because they're just like, this is
like, this is fine, fine, whatever.
We'll see what comes out at the other side of this.
I do have to, I do have to, I see where Charles's coming from in the sense of every time somebody does something good, every time we're like, man, we don't absolutely hate this character, they're gone.
And especially with Reneer because, like, that was Rainier's for the first four episodes.
Oh, yeah.
With somebody she believed in somebody she was tight with.
And she got got.
So now Jace Philizzo's that role, oh, man, it's not looking good for our guy.
Let's be honest.
Wait, can I also?
Well, I will say this.
We did meet the bastard character from the tavern earlier.
It's kind of put it on the blueprint that there were bastards out there
and people who might have the capability to ride dragons.
I mean, it's, I don't know, it's interesting.
I do think the Heron Hall bit was one of the more interesting things
because we have to talk about Damon.
Damon is on maybe the largest side quest in Game of Thrones history.
Yeah.
Have we seen a side quest like this in the past?
Damon has,
Damon is,
just think about it.
I mean,
I could be wrong.
Well,
I'm thinking like,
Damon is Aria going to Assassin school?
But I mean, like,
a huge side quest.
You're right.
Huge side quest.
Think of some other ones.
Because I was thinking,
this is a side quest like a motherfucker.
Brand took a side quest so crazy
he didn't show up for a season.
He played his own video game.
He got people calling him king.
Like, he's dreaming of having sex with his mom.
They finally went too far.
You think that's too far?
That was too far. That was a moment.
Here's my question about that scene.
Here's my question about that scene real quick.
So, like, you see that hallucination.
Oh my God, it's my mom.
And then it's that weird, like, dream coming out of a space thing where, like,
you see our guy being like, is the duck not to your liking?
and then like he looks back, looks in front,
and then it's not his mom,
and he's in bed.
I'm like, what was he doing to the duck before?
Was he eating the duck?
Because it's confusing because it's like,
okay, he sees himself in his bed,
but then he's like coming out of trance.
To be, I mean, we don't know.
He was eating his mom.
I know that.
He was eating his mom.
That duck,
that duck was supposed to represent his mother's vagina.
Okay.
Okay.
And so the, like,
I mean, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to be honest with you guys.
I don't know why.
But that was the limit.
To be fair, though, you weren't, you didn't know that until the limit.
That was the limit.
That's kind of crazy.
We said a lot of that.
We can reverse or we can rewind.
But it was only a couple weeks ago where you were just like,
Jomi, you and my mom, you know, daily, like having nice Dalyans.
Do you see?
It's not his mom, though.
So, and I hate to say this.
But Charles, are you able to see the difference between Jomi having sex with my mom?
and me having sex with her.
Are you able to make a distinction?
They're very closely related.
They're cousins.
They're cousins and I'm just like,
are you fucking nuts?
Are you fucking nuts?
It's not even,
it's not related in any way
shape or not.
I don't like it.
You just say, we just, you just,
you just pod.
There's no way that you can eat.
They're not cousins at all.
Here's a deal.
There's a lot of family fucking that goes on.
But I'm watching the scene
I'm like I'm like
That's his mom
He's full on fucking his mom
You didn't know that until she said it though
Telling him stories about from his youth
That was a lot man
That was too much for me
Also shout out
Shout out Talk to Thrones
I didn't real
Because like they
They were saying that Damon was what
Three years old when his mom passed away
So it's also crazy that Damon was like
I'm going to envision my mom as a bad bitch
Like he's like
You know what I'm saying
She doesn't know like that yet
She doesn't look like that.
Right.
But also another great detail, like, from the books to this point.
So it's not technically a spoiler if we're at this point in the books.
It's told that Damon was immune to Alice Rivers' influence as a witch.
And I love that.
And I think that's very funny because clearly Damon would never tell a soul about the shit that he experienced in Harrodhall.
Would you tell somebody you had a dream of a v.
another?
No, of course not.
But it's just like to think that, like, if the maister's ever asked him this or if anybody were telling him this, he'd just be like,
how was your time at Heron Hall, David?
He's like, totally fine, nothing happened,
didn't dream about having sex with my mom,
totally normal person.
I don't know who else Rivers is.
And that specific scene too,
you mentioned like the duck and the goose,
whatever.
And like,
it's like this weird wide shot.
It almost resembles like a sitcom in which like he looks,
goes actually,
I'm not hungry.
Yeah.
I'm not going to eat, actually.
Yeah, he puts the duck down.
He puts the duck down.
I'm good.
Am I being a hater for feeling like
sideline him.
on this side quest.
I know maybe story-wise it makes sense,
but it's kind of a bummer
because I'm just like,
we got A-man, like,
putting in work,
being very charismatic on one side,
and the blacks for the longest time.
Jay didn't do shit this episode,
it would be almost a lot for them.
Like, do we need Damon
to start being a little bit more active?
Nah, he's the thing.
Damon activity is different.
Like, he killed a kid in the first one.
Right.
First episode, right?
You don't want him doing too much.
When he gets active, he gets active.
It seemed like he was killing kids this episode.
Technically, yes.
Well, you got to let him catch up is the thing.
Sure.
So you got to let Amon catch up.
So remember the first season where Amon looks like he's ready to pop shit
and Damon steps up and he goes, oh, my boy, are you ready for it?
And Amon just looks past him like, no, I'm not quite ready to this pop up.
He's like, in a minute.
He's not yet.
So Damon's side quest is about us learning a little bit more about like, you know,
a character that's been described about as the most dangerous man in Westeros, his motivations and all of that.
And it's also about like minimizing him, bringing him back down the earth a little bit because you see some of the mistakes that he's making and some of his weaknesses.
Because eventually what you have to have is, in my opinion, what you have to have is,
a dynamic where those characters are seen as on equal footing of dangerousness and capability.
So when they face off, you feel like it's a 50-50.
Right now, you know that it's not.
You know that Aiman has been scared of Damon in the past and then Damon is the big swinging dick of the entire deal.
But as he becomes a little bit more unsure of himself, as he makes some mistakes, you start to see maybe a little impotence there.
And then at the same time, Amon is building his strength,
consolidating the group around him and his power.
And so when they face off, it'll be like one guy on the upswing,
one guy maybe a little bit on the down swing,
so maybe you won't know who's going to win.
So I think that's probably what they're,
while we're saying a little bit of that.
So Reneer is sending one of the council members to Damon.
Yes.
My fucking asshole, Alfred.
Yeah, he's been.
He's been worse.
I mean, they've all been dicks, but he's not.
He's not been great.
He's the worst.
Yeah, Sir, Alfred's not been great.
The fairer sex, that dude?
When he goes to Harringholm and he sees Damon calling himself King and order the people around.
It's going to be some funny shit.
Like, when he, like, he can't call her in there, but he says that Raven like, yeah, we're in there.
You're not going to believe this.
Yeah, you know, you can't believe this one.
He's going to believe this, bro.
I can't imagine that's going to go down well.
No.
I mean, the funniest part of the entire, like, I was just like, oh, Damon really is not great at this is where he's like, yo, call me King.
and they're like King Regent and he's like
not allowed that's
No no no no
Quick quick
Quick side about the actual funniest thing was when he's like
Okay
Ben the need of me as king or your house birds
And they're like now we choose fire
And you have that amazing shot
Great shot
Of like that
Gratzy's lowering his head
And then it's an immediate cut
To him just like sat on a stone
And be like man
I didn't think they had it in him
I didn't think they'd be willing to die
Which would have been the funniest thing ever be actually
killed them.
You imagine how much of a G you got to be to choose getting burned by a dragon.
Turn your back on a dragon.
We've seen somebody choose getting burned by a dragon.
In the moment, I'm not so sure as many things.
And I'm going to be like, yeah, let the dragon burn me.
Like, we've seen people, we said a dude get burned by a dragon with his son in the other show.
Like, when that happened, I was like, man, these niggas really take things old seriously.
Yeah, because in the moment,
In a moment, I'd have been like,
ah, you got it.
Well, somebody was that, that was the Blackins, right?
Yeah, the Brackens.
Here's the thing I loved about that scene
where it was just like, it was such a G move
where you realize the Blackwoods
and the Brackens are so fucking insane.
They're just like, I'd rather be burnt to lie.
And Damon was like, look, I need this.
I need, you.
I need some people with a lot like that.
They match my freak.
Let's get it.
Come on.
Need that in my arm.
All right.
Hey, I don't say this.
About the, about the guy.
that's going,
was it, Sir Alfred?
Yes.
About Sir Alfred that's headed over to,
to Damon,
he might.
He might.
Just side with Dave.
He might see the vision with Damon?
Yeah, he might be all,
like whatever,
whatever this guy's calling himself the king,
or he might get there,
and Damon has all of the things
that Renner doesn't have
in terms of the way he looks at
world. Daman is a guy he got to the
meets, right? He's
battle tested. He's gotten his hands
bloody as much as they could have been bloody
in this peacetime, but we've seen
Damon Fire Award before. He might
get to Heron Hall. Sending him to Heron Hall
might have been precisely the
wrong thing for her to do
if she is
either trying to sideline him or bring
him back into the bowl. He might get there and like
what he sees. Man, that's tough.
Man, I'm
feeling for Reniro right now because imagine
you send, you know, her and
Damon obviously been beefing for a minute.
But then you're saying the other, like,
somebody you've been beefed with too. Now they team up
on you and they're like, hey, kind of.
And also, if she actually says that message,
it's like, let's continue our last conversation.
Oh, the one where like we
screamed at each other and
you said you wouldn't actually
address me as queen and
tell the fuck up and he's like, oh, you're bringing this guy
involved in now? I'm going to stay in Harold.
Is Damon on for this world?
Because now the more I think about it,
you are calling himself king
you know what I'm saying?
You have an ayahuasca retreat to the witch.
There's a lot of dip on the chip.
The witch said you,
she said you dying here, so.
That's also, that's true, right?
You didn't know your mom.
Like, I can't, I,
there's no scenario where Reneira
finds out he's calling himself king
and she's like, all right, cool.
I'm gonna let that slide, right?
It's just not happening.
I don't know if she kills him
or if like something happens
we get another battle in episode eight or whatever,
but I can't,
there's no sense.
scenario where Rainera finds out
he's been out there, it's not
King Consort, it's not King Rageant, I'm
the King, you bend the need to me.
There's no way she finds out he's been out there doing
that, and he like
lives just tell the time.
This is the Targaryen
way I feel like the Game of Thrones way
of just like he was out
in Vegas, some shit happened,
you know what I'm saying? Like I was calling
myself King. I was having
dreams of sex with my mom and she's just
like, boy get in the house.
Like, you know, I think there's a way back.
It's like a boy strip boy to Miami.
Got a little too loose.
Yeah.
You went on, do not disturb.
Man, what kind of edible was David?
Well, I mean, it's the biggest thing about it is that she needs them.
Need, in situations like this, need trumps everything.
You ever seen the college football team?
One kid goes late to class and the coach goes, hey, you're late to class.
All right.
We have, we graduate champions here at this.
school, you're off the team.
You're off the team. They don't
tell you that guy's a walk-on. And then the coach
gives a press conference. We don't
put up with motherfuckers
being laid around here.
Okay? We don't, that's not what we
do. We graduate champions and everybody
goes to class and we all got to go
class three-piece suits and we
study and we do great things.
Then the star quarterback
beats up four policemen,
gets five DUIs,
and the coach goes,
kid just needs a chance
kid needs a chance
if I turn my back on this kid
then what's going to happen?
Who else?
Who else?
Yeah.
That's what you guys are wanting to.
We're just going to give up on you?
I'm just going to give up on the kid.
If I turn my back on the kid right now,
what happens?
You think it's going to get better?
You think it's going to get better?
That's Damon.
Damon is just star quarter.
Right?
Damon is the one.
Damon can go off and do something.
He can do his Rodman,
Trist from, yeah.
Like, you know, Damon could go off.
Damon is like, yo, what we're going to do.
We're going to bring this kid back into the program.
We're going to put our arms around him.
We're going to use our arms not to push him away, but to pull him closely.
Right, right, right.
That's what happens with him.
They're going to make sure Damien got, you know, he don't have to go and do some community services.
Oh, yeah.
No, he's putting in hours for sure when he gets back better than me.
But Damon is going to be all right.
He's number one in NIL earned.
He's going to be strong.
That's why I think she sent Sir Al.
Because Sir Al is like,
have I done anything to decide if you?
Why are you making me go to attention?
No, no, no.
That's an act.
Because she's trying to tell
Sir Al's going to go to Heron Hall.
It's going to be cold.
He's going to be eating nasty food.
He's going to get back.
And he's like, hey, yo, I'm real sorry for how I was acting.
Hey, to be fair, though, not to be fair,
but that that dude did not apologize for talking crazy to her.
again.
Renira's like, hey, listen, I might have been wrong.
I needed to be a little bit about that action a bit more.
The fact that you might have been right when it comes to responding after Rook's rest.
I get it.
Like, that could have been like a squashing of the beef moment, but he's like, I'm not sorry for shit.
All right, here's the thing.
I don't like Sir Al sucks.
But at a certain point, Renera, like, you got to show me that you're a leader.
You got to start making decisions.
Oh, Charles.
Or you're just going to have motherfuckers popping off like that.
Right.
I guess this agree.
Charles is not about to beat the allegation.
No.
He looked at her and said the gentler sex.
Yeah.
And you're just going to let that slide.
You know what we're near should have done?
She looked back at him and been like, she looked back at him and been like, you ain't been in no battles either.
Like what?
Like, you ain't won nothing.
You can't.
You can't snap back at that point.
The minute he said that gentler sex shit, he should be like, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get him.
Get him out of you.
Yeah.
Hey, oh, Syrac, man.
I don't understand why they don't just put people to death.
I would put him to death.
He's at the jail.
He's at the jail.
He's like,
eh,
put him in the dragon tape for five minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bro,
like,
I'm like,
when I'm looking at,
uh,
that agon and we haven't talked about,
we have to talk about Aegon.
Damn,
Aagon.
Man,
that sucks.
It's tough.
That's not that bad.
It's not that bad.
He'd be I.
Agon and Aiman a couple of episodes ago.
I'm like,
yo,
I know you my little brother and stuff.
I'll put you to the,
in front of the whole
king.
Like,
I said it
before,
I will have you whipped.
I have no,
if I was the king,
you come in me like that,
you'll get whipped in front of the whole king.
There's people talk to the,
man,
then,
that's interesting narrative.
That's an interesting narrative.
Does we not say the words,
I would have them whipped on this shit?
That's crazy.
No.
That's nuts.
I will say it.
It's,
look,
we survived it.
It's,
what?
No,
no.
No.
Hey man, come on, man.
If I was going to be dropping in like a SWAT team right now.
If I ever get power, they'll definitely be whippings.
All right.
Like, it's, I'm just being for real.
Like, because it's a, to me, okay, not in this work, not in the real world.
I should say.
I'm not for whipping anyone in the real world.
In Westeros then?
In Westeros.
In Westero's?
You want to be a slave master whipping people in Westeros?
In Westeros, I would definitely have people whipped.
What?
For sure.
Because I don't want to kill them.
I just want to subjugate them.
Think about the Westeros.
If you get a whipping, you get off easy.
They don't got antibiotics out there.
So you might get an infection or something.
You know, yeah, it's going to be bad.
I got to be real.
Agon was like laying up in the bed and they were putting the wet cabbage on them.
I'm like, that cabbage ain't too shit.
Is this the non-expired cabbage, by the way?
What's the shelf life?
The cabbage in Westroos.
They're peeling the metal.
off his skin, bro.
That was that.
I put my food down after that.
Is he alive?
He's breathing for now.
He's cooked.
He's literally cooked.
Don't do that.
Don't give him hope.
So this is what,
this is the thing that I,
Allison,
don't try to be a mother now.
That's what I'm saying.
It was,
man,
when he was like mommy,
like that was really sad.
That was sad.
That really hurt.
That hurt, man.
It was,
it was sad.
The whole thing was sad.
It's,
It's sad because she looks,
because no one on the show really refers to people
by their kin name.
Like, you can tell in the show when someone is looking at someone,
someone wants to show love to someone,
because they refer to them in the way that they're related.
Like when he goes, I love my grandson.
Right.
When the kid, I think he was the Tully kid,
was saying, I love my grandson.
He looks at him as his grandfather.
In this episode, when Corliss is talking to his granddaughter, they're talking as granddaughter
and grandfather, right?
He looks at her, he gives her the whole thing.
She says, I don't want this dumb-ass kingdom.
She's like, I'm not about to sit here.
Like, you're about to give me this kingdom.
I don't want this dumb-ass kingdom.
Wait, was that a little bit?
Was that a little foul, though?
Because I was just like, I was like, damn, you're choosing the white side of the family?
That's crazy.
You don't know, no, you don't give me the kingdom when it's at its lowest point.
Also, would you rather fly dragons or sell ships?
So, here's the thing.
Honestly, I kind of dig the living life as a sailor and just like coming back to my house.
Yeah, I'm like, here's the thing that Targaryens after after them, I'm like, I might have to ride with the ship.
The ship.
Seems chill, man.
I dig it.
Give me toothless.
We ride at dawn.
No, man.
We ride at dawn.
Also, also, come on.
I mean, no, it's kind of, it's like if somebody tried to give you Paramount, now, I don't want it now.
I got Paramount in 1997.
Actually, give me Paramount.
I'll take Paramount.
It's a distressed asset.
Renew Star Trekstar Redera.
Vernara also been treating them, you know, like, so like, I'm like, she's like, yeah, I'm a Targaryen, bitch.
I was just like, hey, yo, the way things are happening for the blacks right now, I don't, I would have said.
The blacks or Team Black?
Both.
I would have just said, I'd be like, hey, yo, grandfather, how about you just, we'll put this conversation to the side.
I'm not saying yes, but I'm not saying no.
Well, I mean, frankly, like, we're joking right now, but she's like, I'm a fire and blood, not of Salt and C.
Now he's got to go back to all that out and be like, look, I ain't really got no other options, my boy.
You got to tell your bad.
You got to tell you.
You will reluctantly inherit this amazing kingdom.
I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
You know, I wasn't there for you.
You know, I did give you, you did save my life.
No, it's just like, he's got to go to Allen and be like, look, I know I wasn't there at all.
And you did save my life.
And I rewarded you by doing absolutely nothing about it.
So, but I do need you to take up my name and my lineage and all of my resources going forward.
You are the next person in line.
So, come on.
Let's go to.
That's a come up.
I mean, that is a come up.
But you probably should like get to know your son.
Allen's like John Snow in season eight.
I don't want it.
Alan's entire thing is like he doesn't want to be involved.
Like I think he's got an idea of like who his dad is,
but he's just like, nah, I'm out of here.
I don't want any of these problems.
But Corliss at this point has nobody else.
So he has to like figure out a way to make,
make his, make his bastard son come back until the fall with him.
So is he interesting to see what that looks like?
Are we back in black?
Because I was watching this episode and I got some inklings where I'm like,
the black people on this show.
might start having some shit to do.
Corlis, king of it.
Like, he's about to be the hand of the king.
That's right. You know what I'm saying?
Alan is about to inherit, you know, this kingdom.
Bela getting her shit off.
She's like, pop, pop, pop, pop.
I was like, the black, like,
the black characters are starting to cook a little bit.
Well, every time we come up, though,
some happen. So they're in the Erie.
And the Aaron, whichever Aaron,
I can't remember what her name is at the moment.
And she's like, yo,
y'all gave me two small dragons raina's like yo we gave you two dragons you didn't say to size all that
and then she's like sorry about your grandmother by the way rain is like this is this is how i find out
this is this is how you're going to do me i felt for reina right there i was like no raina they're not
giving they're not giving rena anything to see something it's tough you know rain has nothing to do
like the the the the the the the couple of things number one i do wonder can that black character
the ball-headed guy can he ride the dragon
Well, I guess, yeah, he can.
Maybe.
Maybe he's one of the guys.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe he's like, what?
I'm telling you straight up, it's going to be a new era of Game of Thrones if you got a ballhead black guy.
That's a new era of the show.
How will you personally feel?
Samuel L. Jackson, be careful, Steve.
Samuel L. Jackson.
Like a Samuel, how would he just don't ask no questions, all right?
be careful
Samuel Jackson up there on top of the drag
will be crazy
especially if he grow his shit out
just a little bit to like a Mohawk
Wait what ball
What ball-headed black people
Would we want to ride dragons?
I would want Charles Barkley to ride a dragon
Can you imagine?
Charles Barkley Carotaghan
Don't get him near San Antonio
Samuel Jackson carotid drag
That's a good one
Michael Jordan
Michael Jordan
Nah Michael Jordan can't ride no dragon
Michael Jordan absolutely
He's going to burn too many people up
If you put Michael Jordan
That's Damon Targary
You're going to go
And anybody at every
that ever talk bad about him.
He's just going to burn up.
He's going to be mad assistant coaches
from college teams.
He's just going to be mad.
He's just burnt up.
He's like, why did the assistant coach of Creighton
get burnt up by a dragon?
It was like, oh, he was a team USA
with Michael in 1984.
He said Michael could go left.
Michael too vindictive.
Who else?
Oh, oh, Al Roker.
Al Roker.
That's a, wow.
Wow.
I know, I'm a Roker can't fucking ride a dragon.
Can Dwayne the Rock Johnson
ride a dragon?
Well.
no that's more in the sewing of the scenes where it's like finding out
dwayne the rock john no now now no hell now are we letting shemar war
who shaman more no it's interesting what you're doing now you're going we just
talking about black guys riding dragons and you want to you go into a lot of the
can omar ebz ride a dragons well i see i see i see who you want to have the dragons jones
omar epps i see i see who you want to have the dragons joey me you just name you want
Drake with a dragon.
Black bald actors.
Why do we name any bald-headed black women?
Lupita?
Oh,
oh,
Lupita's.
Definitely.
With a dragon.
Um,
home girl from 911.
I love her.
You've seen that show.
Okay.
She got a dragon.
But I've,
um, is that not?
Uh, who are the balls?
Uh,
do they have to be bald though?
Grace Jones.
Grace Jones.
Oh, my God.
Grace Jones would for sure ride a drag.
She'd ride three.
Or they have to have silver hair, and then we get into, like, Cisco riding a dragon.
So it's like, eh.
I mean, he literally unleashed the dragon.
What are you talking about?
That's true.
That's true.
Cisco getting on, honestly, I'll release the dragon.
Cynthia Erivo?
How come Cisco hasn't been on Game of Thrones yet?
They put Ed Shearing on that, bitch.
This season, Cisco should have been.
This is House of the Dragon.
Cisco already reached the dragon.
here, Cisco was on this shit
way before anybody, bro.
He was doing backflips in front of Godzilla.
No munches.
Bro, I'll tell you,
bro,
house of the dragon,
I'm telling you right now.
Put Cisco on the show, man.
Yes.
You know how hot it was in the streets
when Ed Sher was on that thing,
bro.
That was like,
no, if you,
I'll be forgiven.
You got to do it better,
but.
No, if they put Cisco on a dragon,
this will be better than game.
Yes.
Like, legitimate.
All will be forgiven for the final season
who came with us.
Right.
It's a scene
where I'm going to set the scene.
Somebody is talking to Cisco, right?
His name could actually be Cisco.
That works.
Somebody is talking to Cisco.
And they're getting,
they're mad at him, right?
They're going to talk and shit to him.
And what does Cisco say?
Y'all niggas gonna make me unleash the dragon.
And they're like, he just comes out.
But y'all niggas gonna make me
Unleased the dragon.
I know you don't really want to unleash the dragon.
And then you really say, hey, yeah, yeah.
He comes down with the dragon.
As he's, so breathing fire on everyone,
Unleashed the dragon is playing.
Cisco got to be on this.
How have we not talked about this?
Honestly, it is weird for us.
He's not even wearing armor.
He's just wearing a Montclair.
I also want to see how he gets off the dragon
because you know Renera wasn't getting off the dragon
in any swaggy way.
You know Cisco is about to do some back.
He's burning people to a Chris.
He's just doing it.
Jedi flips off and on the dragon.
He lit off that bitch.
He might slide down the,
or like Usher slide down the side of that motherfucker.
Dude, like the moonwalk.
Bro, Cisco,
seriously, I'm gonna be honest with you.
They put air sharing on this bitch.
Bro, a life for a life for a, bro,
a son for a son, man.
Like, we need, we, if we don't get Cisco on House of the Dragon,
at some point, I'm a wonder,
really what's going on with the creatives of this show, man.
They put air sharing on this beach.
We want Cisco.
That's the trade off.
They had Ed Shearing.
We got to have Cisco.
Let's start that change.
That's just in the world.
We can't get Cynthia Revo in there?
Would you rather have Cynthia Revo or Cisco?
Cisco.
I mean, Cisco's funnier.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I love Cynthia.
And Cynthia, Cynthia got too much on her plate.
Cisco needs this.
First of all, Cisco doesn't need it.
He's chilling in Minnesota.
He's doing his thing.
He's still aware?
He's chilling in Minnesota.
Minneapolis.
He lives in Minneapolis.
He lives in Minnesota?
Yeah, yeah, he lives in Minneapolis.
I don't realize that.
Why does Cisco live in Minneapolis?
How do you know where Cisco lives in 2024?
Because I dated somebody who lived in Minneapolis.
And they're like, we had, we had Cisco there and they had, oh, my God.
When were you, all right, Steve?
You know, I wouldn't have volunteered that information, but now you got to answer questions.
was it like years ago
Was this a black woman?
No.
I'm looking this up.
I'm looking this up.
Steve,
I'm going to be honest with you.
It's really weird.
And I know that Cisco lives in Minneapolis?
Oh, my God.
Hey, I'm going to be real with you.
Cisco in the suburbs.
Singer now lives in Maple Grove.
He moved there in 2015.
I was about to call bullshit on you,
but Cisco lives in Minneapolis.
Minnesota.
I thought you was confused.
I thought you was confusing
him with Prince.
I was about to get you the fuck.
No.
No, no.
I know the difference between Cisco
and Prince.
Please.
Yeah.
He said him and his girlfriend
decided to move to Minnesota
because it was an ideal spot
to raise their children
with his family close by.
Isn't that beautiful?
Cisco.
That's lovely.
That's dope.
Oh, what I was saying about
Alisic is that she calls
Agon her son.
Yeah. Yeah. I've seen her say
Agon. I've seen her say Damon. I've seen her say Helena.
She goes, my son.
And you can tell, like, in the show,
when they refer to somebody as,
they don't talk about these people as their kin like their kid
because they use the name. But you can tell in that situation
that she was, her feelings were,
her maternal feelings,
she was really shaken up by what happened to him
because her son was in peril. Let me ask you,
guys this. If Agon wakes up,
which it seems like he's coming to,
is he going to be like my brother burn me with fire?
No.
Is this a situation to where if he gets his faculties back?
Because Helena looks at Agon
at the end and she says,
was it worth it?
Was it worth it? Is this a, so it seems like she knows
something or she, maybe that question was more,
maybe it was broader or more open-ended, who knows?
But is Amon in a bad situation if Agon wakes up?
I think yes.
I think what's interesting is that how many people in Kings Landing or at least on the council either know or suspect what happened.
Yeah.
Whereas, so Kristen Cole, we don't get a shot last episode of him looking up in the sky.
but he knows, okay, something went wrong with this plan
and Amen is at the center of this.
I think he burned his brother to a crisp.
Like, Allison is kind of like,
like, he's a monster, he did this.
And then a home girl walks in with the visions,
being like, yo, was it worth it?
So even everybody on the council,
I was reading almost fear,
where a lot of the, they were backing up a lot of it with like,
well, this is why you can't do it, Allison,
and this is why Aymann can.
And I was just like, oh, a lot of them are just afraid of just like,
Allison, you don't have a dragon.
He does.
And he almost killed his brother for this shit.
What do you want us to say?
Yeah.
So I'm like, if Agon wakes up, if he doesn't have amnesia,
I think it's going to get really awkward.
Yeah, there's no way that conversation, it doesn't happen, I don't think.
Right.
But to your point, everybody kind of is like, yeah, he, that's to do with Agar.
We're not going to, we're not fin of
for him. He wants to throw, he can have to throw.
That's a lot. Yeah.
He's pocking juice. Like, he got the, he got the boy.
That's what I'm saying.
And everybody's scared now.
What are we going to do?
It's like, dang, he, he sound like he in charge to me.
Side question, is juice just a cure of?
Yes.
Yeah.
Have you seen the cure?
You like juice, Steve?
Yeah, it's a good movie.
I've seen the cure.
Yeah, it's a good movie.
Like, thematically, it's more or less just like.
Let me ask you a question.
Steve, I don't know if I've ever asked you this before.
What's your favorite movie with an all-black cast?
I think you have a.
Steve, what is it?
Damn, all-black cast.
It was, damn, don't say Johnson family vacation.
No, I like Friday.
Okay.
Yeah, that's too easy, though.
I need just like it.
That's a little cliche.
I wish you would have dipped it to the back a little bit.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a layup.
Okay, well, if you don't like the answer,
I'm sorry.
Friday, really?
but like, you know what I'm saying?
Hold on.
That's what the fuck I'm talking about, Steve.
Drop your nuts.
Yeah.
Steve said, fuck it.
I'm fucking with Friday.
You guys are right to answer.
I mean, I don't know who done on Friday.
If you were to say, like, you know, don't be a medicine South Central.
I'll drink juice and hood.
I'd be like, oh, Steve.
What would you have wanted me to say?
I'm just saying, like, it's like, crooklyn, you know, like.
Sure.
Just some little, little more substance.
Belly?
Belly's good, but I, what about what?
I mean, you know, so.
I'm like, what?
What?
if I like Friday and genuinely think that I like it?
Here's a thing, though. First of all, Friday has a ton of substance.
But, like, it's comedy.
Belly, actually, you have to be there for Belly.
I can understand to where, so Bailey dropped.
I was like 17, 18.
That was for us.
If you watch Belly, it was, man.
If you watch Belly for the first time and it's like 2024 and you're going back,
I want to watch Belly, you're not going to like me.
that was just more of the vibes for the time i'm not going to argue with belly over charles
belly was if you were born between i'd say 1975 and nineteen eighty two then you think belly is
pretty dope if you was born in 83 setting it three setting it four whatever you probably
anytime before after you probably look at belly like what the fuck is this shit but for the time
that belly came out, belly
was that motherfucking shit, bro.
We was going crazy over belly,
though. What about set it off? Were you guys
going crazy if you set it off?
Yeah, set it off as a classic.
Yeah. See, that question made me uncomfortable.
Why?
It was like,
what about set it off? Was that
well-received back in the day? Did you niggas like
set it off? Steve, you just got to be like,
what's your favorite movie with an all-white cat?
cheaper bother
does it
okay but this is a good question
but this is a good question though
what is
um
because I can easily say
and I don't want to
because I can easily say like a new hope right
because these movies are white yeah but it's like
the white meals
yeah what's the whitest movie
with an awry that you guys love
like the movie that's like less
it's like not even
halfway even in the culture
at all what's the white culture
the whitest movie
Flubber
Flubber
With Robin Williams
Yeah
Interesting
I love that little green
Dancing motherfucker like
Yeah
Wow
Flubber
That's a pull
No I remember Flubber
Laughing bro
Flubber's great
That's something
That's a deep
The only reason why I say
But let me tell you something
The only reason why I say
Flubber
Maybe doesn't count
Is it's because it's for kids
Okay
So it has to be an adult movie
Dope movie
Yeah like an adult
movie, but like, it's just straight
is white.
Oh, oh, oh, top good.
No, top, no.
So they got sundown down the top
which is crazy. It has
not age well, but when it came out,
I would love in this shit.
500 days of summer is the whitest movie of all.
Oh, that, bro.
That's, yeah, that's money.
That's in the top five for me. I was going to say that,
but I was like, I got to go
deeper. That's a good answer.
I'll see any Joseph Gordon-Levin.
And he was a good show.
When he was popping,
oh man,
he was,
he was,
that's a white's movie of all time.
That was,
like,
that was my king for a minute.
That was,
he was great.
Oh my God.
Nothing.
Yeah,
we get back to house.
Johnny,
what I have a question,
guys.
No, no,
real quick,
we gotta finish this.
Tommy,
what's the widest movie?
The whitest movie?
God,
man,
I mean,
I said,
it's probably,
it is probably cheaper
about a dozen,
right?
Parent trap.
Parent trap.
Perot trap.
Oh,
actually.
the low end parent
pretty much anything from Lindsay Lohan
from like,
oh my god,
mean girls?
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Yeah,
that's a strong mean girls.
Yeah.
I love me so mean girls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The thing is,
it's so many for me.
I'm trying to think.
But wait,
what's the,
when I say white?
What's the one
with the blue motherfucker and
Frankie Munez and Amanda Biden?
Oh,
Big Fat liar.
Big Fat liar.
That's a great.
That's a great.
That's a great.
I just,
I want to let you guys know some.
I kind of feel like kids
movies have to kind of be for everyone.
That's the only reason why I say a kids movie.
Like little, I kind of feel like a kids movie, it has to kind of be, because it's got
to appeal to kids from everywhere.
Maybe they say fuck the black kids.
I don't know.
But I feel like the kids movie has to appeal to everyone.
Like swingers, super white, don't even care about niggas in that world.
Is there any black people in swingers?
Maybe they, I think maybe there is.
Maybe there is one in black people.
Swingers is one.
I don't know
There's just some
With Reservoir dogs
Count?
They need black people
Reservoir dogs
Reservoir dogs
There's no white people
There's no black people
In Reservoir dogs
That's a white really
Yeah
Yeah
It's white
It gets wider
Because there's the N-word
In that bitch too
Yeah
It just makes it wider
Those are really white problems
I mean me too
But there's no black people in there
There needs no black people
In reservoir
Can't be honest with you
Yeah
I'm proposing a draft
a Midnight Boys draft
of the whitest movies
in the world.
Best whiteest movies?
Oh, man, it's happening.
Is it best whitest or just like white?
It doesn't matter of quality.
Culturally white, not quality.
Culturally white.
Okay.
I'm talking about movies.
I'm talking about movies that like,
because look, this is what people,
I love diversity, but not all the time.
Sometimes I want another.
It's a crazy quote.
I'm going to be honest.
It's crazy.
I love the rest.
You know what?
You know what?
This is a good all-white movie.
You know,
because we should have a rom-com section.
Like,
sleepless in Seattle,
very white movie.
White.
Super white.
I like,
I like diversity,
but sometimes I just want to know
like what the white people are doing.
Now it's different with friends,
seven,
eight years in the middle of New York.
No niggas whatsoever.
Whoa.
There were some niggas in friends.
Just not a lot.
Shout out of Isha Tyler.
After we made a big deal, you weren't around.
Petitions were signed.
After we made a big deal about it, they were like,
why, why.
What's that a black girlfriend?
Here you go.
We'll put it on that big.
But after we made a big deal.
But sometimes you just want to watch a movie
from a different culture and see what they are up to.
What's going on with them?
It don't have to be every time,
oh, my God.
Like, Sleep is in Seattle.
have been made better if there was a nigger named
Malik in that bitch. It doesn't
enhance the movies. You don't know that. You don't know that.
It could have been, man. It could be special.
It doesn't. It doesn't change the movie.
This is a story about that could
only happen to white people.
Here's the thing. A black kid is not
picking up the phone just
letting all the business out for the entire
nation. Like, a black dad
and if he does, and if he
does, you're about to catch a weapon.
How old is different if Kevin is black?
telling on my motherfucking business for.
They were...
What did Steve just say?
I was like, Home Alone's a little different.
If Kevin Black,
if Steve was like,
would they be in that house?
Oh, all right.
Damn, Steve.
Okay, we gotta get back.
That's post credits.
We got to get back.
See, Steve?
Steve, talk your shit.
I love it.
I have a question.
I have a Game of Thrones question.
or how's the drag her question.
And we're getting back to what we talked about in episode two
with Kristen and Allison,
you know, where I didn't understand what was going on.
And I still don't at this point.
Right.
Because they have a conversation after the council meeting.
And Allison is like, yo, you're only good with me
from night to a morning.
And then Homeboy is like, yo, I'm trying to protect you.
That's a weird conversation for people who don't like each other at all.
Either they're the dumbest people alive or the evilest people.
This is a very interesting turn for me because as much as Kristen Cole sucks,
they're giving him some dimensionality here because he's clearly shook from everything that happened at Rook's Rest.
And I was actually compelled by the line.
He was like, have I not spared you of this?
We've given the Ward of the Dragons.
A dragon rider should be in charge.
And he's clearly shook enough to be like, listen, you,
actually don't want any part of this.
If you've seen what I've seen
and I kind of don't even
know if I want to be involved with this myself.
That's how I read that.
And that's why, and I don't disagree with you,
but that's why I was like, this is like one of the worst
Allison episodes we've ever seen.
Like, it's a terrible crash out.
It speaks to her
slight naivete when it comes to war.
Yeah.
But also she's reckoning with the gravity of
again,
fucking up this prophecy
and putting egg on here in the first place.
And she can't wiggle her way
around a better outcome.
So she's grasping as straws?
Yeah. But here's the thing.
It's tough. If this show teaches us anything,
medieval situationships
and modern situationships
are the same exact thing.
That's right. Because Allison, when my boy was riding out,
she was basically like, all right,
bye, you know, and then she starts going through it.
She gets pregnant. She has the abortion.
She realized she fucked up with the prophecy.
A homie comes back.
He's coming back for war, PTSD.
He's just like, dog, I can't even.
I just can't even right now.
And I'm just like that.
This is what happened.
And also, if I'm being real, Sir Kristen Cole is like,
I don't want to fucking marry into this family.
Like, yo kid's crazy.
One got burnt to a Chris and the other one's a mass murderer.
Like, so I do think this is what happens when situation
go wrong. And I feel for both of them.
It's tough. It's tough.
Allison, you, Allison is so green.
Allison, you can tell she hasn't had that many, you know,
she hasn't had that many different relationships with a low-down-ass motherfucker.
You think, I know, I know dudes that have sex with a girl on Wednesday and not let her into the club on Friday.
It means nothing.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
I'm serious.
Like, it, it means, it means absolutely nothing.
I literally know, yeah, I literally know dudes that, like, like promoters in L.A.
And I'm like, hey, man, didn't I just see you with her?
And he's like, yeah, but look who she brought with her.
Look at her friends.
I'm like, bro, you need to let her in this bitch.
Like, nah, man, I got business to think of him.
I'm like, oh, my God.
Jesus.
So there's nothing.
And she thought, she's looking at him, like, they kind of had something.
Yeah. I don't, you know, you, you ain't been on these streets enough, man.
I, I don't know if it's more of us speaking to, like, any sort of actual affection, but I, even it's more of like political capital where you're like, hey, we've been having sex on the low for a minute and you're not even going to stand up for me in a council for people for people like that. Like, yeah, yeah, why would you, you know, bring the light, would you be keeping in private? It's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy for him to go stand up for Allison out of nowhere.
No, absolutely. And it speaks to like how kind of out of.
of place she is.
Yeah.
In this.
And she even had that homeowner moment where all the,
everything's like getting.
I love that moment.
Like that was a great shot because like it doesn't matter what anybody's saying.
It's just like it all just sinking in that nothing is working.
Yeah.
I mean also if I'm gonna be real just if I'm Sir Kristen Cole, I'm like,
your maniac son is now the Prince Regent.
And if you got his own mommy fetish.
Yeah.
He's going to hurt like the first son's on here.
He's like, get this motherfucker out of here.
Yeah.
So if I'm so Kristen Cole, I'm sitting down.
I'm shutting the fuck up.
Like, dog.
Like, what does she expect?
Hey, don't, don't call me.
I'm going to call you.
Just, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's making the block hot.
Like, that's her, she's making the block hot.
Yeah, no.
Can't get caught up.
You're going to get burned.
You find out that you've been messing with the Queen, the Queen Regent,
and you got Vagar out there.
It's over.
It's cooked.
So in a content season that has been pretty up and down,
if we're being honest.
I think we're all in agreement
that hot D is cooking,
continues to cook.
This episode didn't have any mid-air dragon battles.
It didn't show anyone getting burned by any fire,
but it was incredibly good
and carried the momentum on of the season.
And look, we don't know what's going to happen.
We don't know where things are going.
We don't know who's going to emerge.
We don't know who is going to be supplanted.
But we are on the precipice of a lot of things.
I think Corliss and his, I think we're going to see him become more important as the season continues.
I know there are not too many episodes left, but there's some things to look forward to
and some stuff to look back in the past and be like, how did this go and what's happening and what does this mean?
So that's when the show is really, really, really, really, really good.
All right, we're done.
That's it. That's a wrap.
Nerd news. Let's do it.
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then you've seen the trailer over the weekend initial thoughts it was as good as it could
have possibly been tough oh wow tough ouch tough yes can i say this i i don't know
I mean, no, I mean, you know, you know, you think...
It wasn't the reaction you want to see where I was just like,
they put Red Hulk at the end of that trailer like they was doing something and I was like,
I don't really know if...
You want to do...
Hold on for a second.
I want to make no bones about this.
My reaction to the trailer is overwhelmingly positive.
Okay.
It's resoundingly positive.
Okay.
Okay, that's a different message.
Like, it...
I'm not...
I'm not mean to diminish the movie when I say that.
What I'm saying is that this trailer, to me,
looks like a movie that's striking all the right,
I don't want to step on anybody else,
a movie that's striking all the right cords
and hitting this story where I think it should be being hit right now.
I'm not in any way saying I didn't enjoy this trailer.
I thought it was a great trailer.
I thought it was as good of a first look as it could have possibly been.
I mean that sincerely.
Yeah, no, I watched the trailer,
6 a.m. I was tired and it perked me up. I was like, oh, okay.
It's kind of like had like, you know, I don't want to, they're not cosplay when the soldier.
That's crazy. But it had a little bit of that like kinetic energy in the, in the trailer.
For sure. For sure. And so like, you know, that's always going to be interesting.
And seeing like there's a little like a, like a bit where they go to Sam like three times as he walking in.
There's a cut, click, click, click. I was like, okay, man, you know, we have some of this energy in a movie.
I'll be there. The suit looks better. I'll give it.
The suit looks better.
The suit had to look better.
The suit needed to look better.
Way better.
I'm excited for this film.
Me too.
I think that there's going to be...
It's interesting to have a level of excitement for a slower feed of Marvel content that comes out.
It's been a minute since we have something to look forward to.
It has been a while.
Like, the Marvels was our last big thing.
And that feels like an age ago now.
And now the next big thing...
It's coming out like two.
weeks. I know, but like, that's imminent, but like things to look forward to, it's not that,
it's not that much. And I think this is really hitting a good stride. I think that,
uh, Mackey's going to be fine in his own. I'm really interested to see how many angles we have.
We have leader. We have Ross. We have, uh, Giancarlo Esposito, whatever he's doing. Yeah. Um,
it's exciting. I have a question for you, Charles. Do you believe in Anthony Mackey?
I mean, I actually think to his credit,
it took all of Winter and Falunner Soldier Falcon, whatever it's called.
He was looking like Captain America movie-wise.
I was just like they kind of got the look down a little bit more.
I'm just going to be honest.
We got to be real.
Like, we got to keep it above.
It's nothing about the teaser trailer,
but this ain't the type of reaction you want in terms of just like the next Marvel movie out.
Who gives a shit?
By the way, it is like the reaction is one of the thing.
Charles, don't fucking back down now,
nigga.
Don't fight.
We asked you about Anthony Mackey.
Just to let everybody know,
everybody know what the real is now.
Everybody know what happened, Charles.
The most important thing in this entire deal is,
who cares about how people are reacting to the trailer?
I'm asking you right now.
Jomey asked the question.
You sidestepping.
Do you believe in Anthony McKeigh as Captain America, Chuck?
if we just going off the teaser trailer,
it's going to be enough.
If it's just all the teaser trailer,
it might have been a bad day.
It might have been a bad day.
I don't know.
It's just like it was...
I mean, I do.
I mean, them giving us to Red Hulk this early,
you know, shout out.
There's no theorizing.
No, but here's my issue.
Here's my issue.
What this teaser trailer needed to do for me, right?
is if Anthony
Mackey is going to be Captain America
if he's going to be shouldering this entire movie
we already know
that it's just like
this is even part of the movie
where they even bring it Harrison Ford is bringing up
like you ain't Steve Rogers
I'm like it sends I think
the wrong message
that we can't even get a teaser trailer
without getting compared to Steve Rogers here
not just that ending with the Red Hulk
because I'm just like is this a Captain America movie
or is this a Hulk movie
because it's a Hulk villain.
You've got the fucking Red Hulk.
Yeah.
And that's the sad thing about the marketing of all of this
where you're like, okay, we need every possible thing that could interest you
because Marvel's like, they're slowing the tap down a bit.
So we got to make sure that we can get any possible way to get you in this theater
or get you excited for this.
We're going to make sure that we do it.
And it's going to be in the first trailer.
Not even the last one, not even in the lead-up, not even any of this.
It's going to be right now.
Like Red Hulk is in this move.
This felt like Red Hulk.
and Captain America, not Captain America,
in the same way that it's like,
Deadpool and Wolverine.
Sure.
I'm just like, I get that's where we're at with the MCU,
but I do think because Captain America is such a fraught character,
I think because Falcon and the Winter Soldier was uneven,
I do think that I need the next trailer out,
you got to sell people on Anthony Mackey as Captain America.
You can't just be like, we got the Red Hulk,
and we got some shit from the Eternals,
and we got the leader,
and we got John Collar us,
Pizito, like, both.
Dude, I mean, shout out. They finally got
Tiamut back. It's been 1511 years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we get to finally understand
what's going on in the middle of the ocean.
I think they've been chilling there. I think the
closest thing we ever got, or the only thing I ever
got, was in Sheehawk, where they're
like, that hand in the ocean, what's going on over there?
Yeah. It's finally, like, they're
coming back to some of the stuff
that we love about the MCU, which is the
interconnectedness of it all, right? Like, stuff
with some of the movies are finally
coming home to roost. And I'm
Also, we got to remember that that's been a little bit of the downfall, where if we get too much into that well, if we get too much into the feeling of the prerequisite knowledge that somebody needs to do to watch these movies, that's kind of been the thing that's been deterring people.
And it's kind of why we've been slowing the taps a bit.
I mean, the quality is really.
It wasn't.
Here's the thing.
The Trevor wasn't a disaster.
It was not a disaster.
It's just like, it does give me a little bit of pause of, is this just going to be more MCU bullshit?
or did they actually really have a Captain America story to tell?
I think I think that it's possible.
I'm really interested.
So I think the fact, so I thought the trailer was really good.
And I don't have a problem with him showing Red Hulk just because Thunderbolt Ross is Red Hulk.
I mean, the image is Red Hulk squeezing the shield.
So, I mean, I don't think I have a big problem with it.
I can think of other trailers that have kind of.
done the same thing, especially if he's
going to be the main villain or maybe he won't be
the main villain, but whatever.
I do think, though, that
the response to the trailer
is more,
it's not even about the trailer as much as it is
about, it's not the best, the trailer's not
the best thing in the world, but why I say as good as
it could have possibly been,
for a Captain America movie, the reason why
I felt like that personally was
I want to be like, huh,
does he look in command of Captain America?
Does he look like
This is a world that can revolve around him and not him being in Steve Rogers' world,
which I thought the trailer did a good job of kind of showing that, right?
This is, it's a new Captain America.
It's a different take on it.
And that's what it has to be to Charles's point, what Charles is right.
It has to be a different take on Captain America.
In order for the movie to work, the story has to show that this is not the same thing that we've seen.
seen from the character in the past, and that's okay.
If you're in the movie and you're thinking, damn, I miss Chris Evans, the movie's a failure.
Right.
Right.
And when you look at this, it kind of feels like a world, it feels a little smaller.
They didn't go with a big spectacle for the trailer.
There's a couple of shots that you're like, oh, my God, you can see him in the way he's flying.
But for the most part, things are a little close up.
you see Isaiah, you see Isaiah Bradley in some way, like lose it and try to kill the president or do something.
And you're starting to think, oh, these are all things that are kind of close to him and situations that have existed for a while.
And there's some newness here.
There are some things we haven't seen.
There's some at least belief that they might not be playing the hits.
And I think that's why I said it was as good as could have possibly been.
because it wasn't going to be a sit where everybody was going to be excited
like in game to see that bitch.
Sure.
But if you're like, oh, okay, this is a world I can believe in, then it worked.
But we're not going to be good on the trailer all the way
because we haven't been burned too many times, man.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll say what, I need.
Too many times, man.
You know what I'm saying?
I need that Isaiah Bradley Bucky flashback, though.
I need that.
We ain't getting that.
I want it so bad.
I mean, I mean, I mean,
the red oak thing
and this is something
I'm thinking about for a minute
is like of course
we get the Red Hulk stuff
is because A, Dunderball Ross
is in the movie
but we speculate so much
you know
like just as a movie going
comic book
movie going audience
that like every time
like somebody's on set
we get like a leaked shot
and it's like
so and so's there
this and this and which at this
at this point doesn't behoove
the studios to like
hide
like stuff like this
when we're like we've already done the math.
I mean, I feel like that's
I feel like studios like that
kind of look at that as low key marketing
opportunities. Even if it's not
official, even if it's not something that they can
fully announce yet.
Like they have precautions and ways of
just like, all right, we put so and so over like a hood
and then they're just ushered into a soundstage
in Atlanta or whatever. Like
anything that they shoot out in broad day that
they know that it's going to be like possibly exposed
to like set photos or whatever. Like they
know what they're going to be putting out there. I mean, Marvel's better. I mean,
the DC thing is kind of crazy because like Superman, they just been like going crazy.
Yeah, that might. Honestly, is that whole movie shot outdoors?
Yeah. I'm like that movie. They're all, hey, look, they're shooting on practical sets.
Hey, I like it. I like it. This is my last like hot take for the day. Also,
the Red Hulk just sucks. So that's what worries me a little bit too. Could you imagine
a world where the Red Hulk doesn't suck though? It's just like, it's like if you're propping up your
being like, hey guys, guess what?
We got the Red Hulk.
Is Leader that cool?
No.
No, but it just, who cares?
They can make Leader cool?
They made Zmo cool.
If that's, no, but here's the thing.
Like, I could take Zmo seriously.
Even in the comic books, when I was reading, I was there when the Red Hulk was created.
I was like, this is dumb shit.
Like, it's like, so there is a part of me where it's like, you got to convince me that
the Red Hulk is worthy of me giving a fuck about a fourth Captain America.
Sure.
Oh, then you're not going to like you.
then you're not going to like it.
I don't know,
if Harrison Ford being a big red monster.
If you go,
if that's so,
so like,
I mean,
whether or not you like the Red Hulk or not,
like,
you don't like the Red Hulk.
I mean,
I don't think the Red Hulk is,
to me,
it's like kind of doing like another thing.
Yeah.
You know how they do stuff and it's like,
oh,
it's cool.
You know,
it's like,
people want to see,
there are a lot of people
who want to see the Red Hulk.
I'm not saying that I'm necessarily one of them,
but I don't not like the Red Hulk.
You know what I mean?
It's like,
Thunder Road Ross,
turned it to the Hulk. I was like, oh, the writers was getting high one day.
Yeah. It was like, the writers was getting high. It was like, what you think?
The Hulk's right now. Yeah, let's go. They're like, come on, bro.
I mean, the Hulk has been different colors though, gray, green, red, whatever. But like when I'm, but like what I'm, but what I'm saying is, if you don't like the Red Hulk, if the movie has to make you believe that the Red Hulk is cool, then you probably not going to like it.
No, that's bullshit. That's bullshit, though. Because I didn't like, I didn't give a fuck about Black Panther. I didn't give a fuck about. I didn't give a fuck about. I didn't give a fuck about. I don't give a fuck about.
about Ironman and those movies
did a very, very good job of being like,
hey, these characters are actually cool.
I mean, they're not the main character.
Those are the red hope of the leads.
You're right about that, but those are the leads
of the, but that's actually a fair point.
I mean, that's actually a fair point.
Thanos, I'll be honest,
Thanos sucked in the, like,
Thanos didn't have the swag in the comic books
that he did in the movies.
That was his movie.
That was his movie. That's cool.
I mean, look, your opinion
and whatever, but if you watch the event,
the original Avengers, and you didn't get fucking hype when you saw Thanos at the end of the movie, bro.
Like that, come on, man.
Thanos is like, there's a whole infinity side and the whole nine.
All right, can you, here's a thing.
Thanos is in a lot of iconic comic books.
The Thanos that we got in the movies just got so much more swag, so much cooler.
But Thanos will pop up in the comic books.
I'm like, all right, cool.
He got some gemstones on his fucking wrist.
I don't know.
He's horny for death.
He got the roly on.
Like, you got that thing.
Hey, I feel it, though.
I feel it.
My favorite part of the trailer is when it opens.
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The Red Hulk sucks.
Amin is bragging.
And for the House of the Dragon to get to the next left.
Oh, I fucked that one up.
Wait, no, you are, I mean, I thought you were going to quad-rime it.
Aiman is bragging.
Shout out to Cisco, because we're about to unleash the dragons.
Yeah, yeah.
First of all, can we address what you're wearing right now?
Yeah, what the fuck?
Crazy shit.
This is a crazy thing.
This is a ridiculous thing.
You on vacation right now?
Well, okay, first of all, why is it?
All right, a couple of things.
Number one, I don't think that for the three woke cateers right here,
that I think that we can all agree
that the times of being able to comment
on the wardrobe of a co-worker are over.
We've turned over a new legal society.
So you commented on how I look
and how I'm dressed.
A co-workers in a bathroom.
Yeah.
I think what you can say is you're wearing
some statement pieces right now.
See, this is my problem with y'all.
Either you can't be either be all the way
or skip it.
Okay.
So you can't comment
on what I'm wearing.
It can be half-woat.
Not the way it can't be half-low.
Right.
Well, okay, but I'll answer this question.
This is the shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay.
This is how I wake up.
You know, I got my sleep mask up here.
Sure.
I got my hat.
You know, I sleep in the hat.
I was going to say, clearly you sleep in the hat
because you've got the sleep mask on the hat.
I put the sleep mask.
sleep mask on the hat. I sleep in the hat. I got, you know, I wear my, I wear my chains,
you know what I'm saying? I wear all my chains in the house. I got this little tab. I got
to check out non-cancerous. And then I, I, um, I wake up and I got this. I'm here at the
NAACP convention in Vegas and I came back to my room and there was a box of black owned
goodies that was sitting in my room. Wow. What's in the box? Hey, this is from black owned
people. And I didn't know there was a black owned robe company. Oh, they,
Yeah, so they gave you that road.
Oh, this is a black-owned rush.
Okay, shout out to my black robes, man.
Shout out, man.
Come on.
All right, can we get to the show?
