The Ringer-Verse - ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 2 Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

The Boys are back and they’re returning to the Red Keep! They give you all of their thoughts on ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 2 and go over where all of our main players stand by the e...nd of it. (0:00) Intro (7:34) Spoilers ahead (9:52) ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 2 reactions (58:33) Outro Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris and Devon Baroldi Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell New 2k+ doorbells, coming to your front door Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:12 Very special. I know what? I won't be recommending. What is that? I tried to watch Amazon Jack Ryan movie. Oh, no. Wait, which one is that?
Starting point is 00:03:24 So it's a new Jack Ryan movie that just came out. John Cazzyzzi? John Crosisciki is Jack Ryan. Yeah. Now, I've caught some of the John Cresensky is Jack Ryan show before. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Wait, I thought he already had a Jack Ryan movie. No, that was just the show. It's going on for four seasons. Oh, shit. Window Pierce, right? Window Pierce, the man. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 It appears fantastic. Jack Ryan movie wasn't that good. Tough. Tough. I, you know. So why did it really quick? Why did it happen for Chris Pratt but not Krasinski? Because there was a moment.
Starting point is 00:03:54 What you mean? There was a moment where like they were pitching John Krasinski is like the next. Well, yeah. Guardians, right? Because if I recall correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, John Krasinski also went out for Captain America and didn't get it. Whereas Chris Pratt went and was Peter Quill and lost all that way, parks.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I mean, he was good at Parks. movies. And then he come on, man, made billions of dollars and all these things. He became the man. Also, it's that weird apex of like a quiet place comes out and that catches fire. And now he's just the hottest director in the town. And now they just wanted to do horror movies and direct a bunch of stuff. And then trails off. What is he directed besides the first two quiet places? Yeah, he went away from that. The movie If. Oh, that's right. Oh, I saw if. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. If was a struggle. If was a maybe. Yeah. Uh, motherfucking. Quiet Place was that shit, though.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Quiet Place was great. It was really, really good. What did you guys think about Quiet Place 2? I don't think I saw it. That was with Killian Murphy, yeah? Yeah, I saw Quiet Place 2. That shit was tight. That shit was motherfucking tight, little nigger.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So he started dating Emily Blunt in 2008. Yeah, that started good for that. I know. He was in early on Blunt. And look at the stock rise. Fantastic shit with him. I couldn't have imagined him as Captain America. I don't think that worked.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Peter Quill, I think he could, I couldn't say Mr. Pugh. I think he could say it was Peter Quill. Interesting. When Peter Quill looks into the camera, it's just like, I think Captain America needed to be a little bit more handsome. Tough. John Grisinski's not handsome. I mean, that's what he said.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That's not handsome enough, does. That's not handsome enough. That's what you alluded to. I didn't say he wasn't handsome. You said, that's an ugly niggins. You said that's an awful. Off brand. I said that's not.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Regular dude. You know? Now, hold on. That's not fair. Don't do that. Hold on, hold on for a second. This nigga look better than me. Of course.
Starting point is 00:05:52 How's that? So I'm not saying that that's, I'm not, I'm not dissing, right, in any way, shape, or form. Right. I'm just saying, Steve Rogers. Yeah, but also this. That's body, though. He's jacked. Yeah, but you also got to be.
Starting point is 00:06:05 You got to, no beer. No beard. We also do not to realize you do when you put on the cow. You know what I'm saying? The proportion has got to be right or you look fucked up. He is perfect. To me. Am I, wait,
Starting point is 00:06:16 am I wrong? Yeah, no, everybody was like bad-athlex chin is right for Not everybody can play Batman. We've seen the fucked-up live-action Batman's way
Starting point is 00:06:24 they don't got the chin for the shit. Yeah. It's like if you have a weak chin or something like that you can't do his thing. You're saying Kyle Tucker can't be Batman? Well,
Starting point is 00:06:31 you, why are you getting that King Tuck, bro? He's going to do enough. Like, get that King Tuck, bro. All right, let's get back to it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But I would say this, though, I could have seen him more and I thought he was a perfect, perfect situation for Reed. Do you think would you have rather they went with him than your boy? Absolutely. You would have taken everybody, anybody over Pedro.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Nope. Nope. How about this? Listen to this, though. Before y'all go crazy. Like, I, they cast Pedro Pascails, and I was like, oh, okay. Right. Could work.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I just didn't see it in that first movie. However, there's a lot. What do you say, Jomey? It's a lot of game left. It's a lot of game left. A lot of game left. Motherfucking Joe me a dinner on. Mr. fucking positive.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Fuck them. Okay. Next week, the Midnight Boys cover House of the Dragon and the season premiere of X-Men 97. Three episodes.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Three episodes. Dropping. Hopefully not flopping. Hopefully not. You know what I'm saying? We got the women in this bitch and they suck. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Okay. On today's show... Love the Saturday you were starting with. The Midnight Boys give their reactions to the second episode of House
Starting point is 00:07:43 the dragon the dragon the dragon they had our people in this one shout out you know they had our people in this one you know what I'm saying the black family stronger together my family shot
Starting point is 00:07:59 that's I don't know Charles that's dangerously close right Charles I had to save the that way that's dangerously close
Starting point is 00:08:11 that's close Come on, man. You know what we're talking about. That's dangerous to close to. Be careful, dog. You're off your square. That's dangerous. Words have meaning.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm not going to say it. All right, Steve, spoiler warning. We're getting ready to talk about House of the Dragon. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. All right, of course, to begin our reactions, we bring you the Midnight Manifest. Chuck, take it away.
Starting point is 00:08:55 All right, this is your Midnight Manifest for House of the Dragon. Second episode directed by Claire Kilner, written by Sarah Hess. Reneira grieves over Jace. Corliss loves his black family aloud on the shore, finally claiming Alan and Adam. Raina begs the veil for asylum, agreeing to pledge Chief Steeler and herself to the region. Reneera calls Damon back from the front line so they can find King's Landing and take the Iron Throne. But when Damon returns, he sees Renaud.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Reiner, Inconcilable over the death of Jace, the husband, uncle tells the queen that he now believes in the fire, nice prophecy that his brother once did. Meanwhile, in King's Landing, Allison finishes her maneuvers by securing the gold cloaks for Renira and convincing the armies to lay down their weapons. Renera, Damon, Hugh, and all fly on Kings Landing and quickly take the capital. To solidify her power, Renira kills Otto after it's revealed that he'd been imprisoned in the castle by Sir Laris. As Renera sensed the Iron Throne, her guards ran Allison and Helena who witnessed their beheaded, patriarch lying on. on the ground. That has been your midnight manifest for House of the Dragon. I'm going to start.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I don't know about how the book readers will feel about this episode. I was locked in. Some gas. This was pretty great. This is that shit. This to me felt like the premiere. I was like, oh, shit. Everything is happening.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Now, some of the maneuvering doesn't make a lot of sense. No. But just the acting, the intrigue. bro what more could you want i personally thought it was fucking gas yeah now is this like an easy watch there's a lot of stakes people getting fucked up old men stabs in the chest like you know what i'm saying their whole family's getting killed you know but this show right away is putting a lot of characters in the blender there are high stakes happening each scene There's this palpable feeling of danger and dread and loss,
Starting point is 00:10:54 which is where this show is supposed to be, what this show is actually about right now. It's just a feeling of loss in almost every scene, man. It's crazy. Nah, it's like the show... Crazy. What's how on with you today, man? I apologize.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's okay. Pizza energy. The episode starts, obviously, like, we chase a delineate episode. He's in the water. They bring his body back to Dragonstone. And it sets the tone when Emma Darcy is just like Can't even like The acting they're doing on the show is like we've talked about in season before
Starting point is 00:11:27 She different Incredible stuff Now she she she everybody killing everybody killing She different She also Meryl Streep type shit Yeah to see them act is like pure immersion Like there's nothing that you can't be convinced of when they are on screen Watching them
Starting point is 00:11:45 Jace comes in The old boy's like Hey man you gotta kill me now And she's like What would that do? For what? For what? Dumb-ass bitch She's trying to talk to Jace
Starting point is 00:11:57 Jason's obviously Jason's dead not responding She tried to wake him She looked at it She went nope Never happened Never happened She could get up, come over here And then
Starting point is 00:12:08 It Grief washes over her And you see her just like, Jesus Christ, she never looks the same again. Just loses it. Never. Yeah. Just loses it.
Starting point is 00:12:20 So that, if we can zero in on that, that's what was so interesting to me about this episode is basically how much the show was kind of telling us that like, okay, this is the breaking point for Renera where I'm like, damn, you're walking around like a ghost, Damon comes back. And he's like, hey, yo, the prophecy. And she barely cares. even the final, that final shot of her just like ascending the Iron Throne, that is supposed to be the thing that is the goal of everyone,
Starting point is 00:12:53 whether it's Game of Thrones or this, and just kind of like how much she's just like, what is it even worth? Like she's almost- She hobbles to it. Yeah, it's not this triumphant shot of finally she gets the thing she wants. It's like, oh, I finally got the thing that I wanted and it's destroyed my life. I was like, oh, that's interesting. not think that's where they were going.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I mean, she says it when they're in, like, when Damon's in the bedroom with her, and she's, like, just unconsolable, she's like, the boys that clung to me that ran under my skirt, like, they died fighting, fighting for what? You know, and I'm like, you're almost got it. You're almost there. And Damon's like, we're so close to understanding that this whole thing is stupid. But, yeah, like, when she sends a throne, it doesn't mean anything because people that she wanted, you know, to be there with her are all gone.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Well, died for her. Yeah. It also feels like, and I also should say that when I'm referring to the character, I want to make sure I refer to her, she, whatever, but when I refer to Emma Dars, I want to make sure I say they do. Yeah. They are non-binary. So something went wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I apologize. Okay. So when she gets up there and you watch her, she eases into it as if sitting in the seat would be worth it. as if when she sits down, brilliant acting, as if when she sits down, she will feel in some way fulfilled. And then she sits down
Starting point is 00:14:24 and you can tell in one moment, everything's still kind of the way that it was. Nothing really changed. And then once again, she is met by the consequences of her throne. as Allison walks in and sees her father decapitate. Right. Do you feel like that final look that she gives Allison
Starting point is 00:14:46 before the credits roll? Is that more posturing? Or do you feel like she is... Yeah. Because you have to do that. You have to do it. You have to do it. The moment she decided she did not want to decapitate Otto.
Starting point is 00:14:58 No, she did not. She didn't want to do it. She had to do it. Everybody's looking at her. This entire thing feels like at this point, for her now, it's a had to. Feels like both of these ladies won out. They can't do.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Dan too deep. But even, it was so interesting Damon standing next to her and almost like, it's like the devil on your shoulder, the glee that he kind of has. He's like,
Starting point is 00:15:21 motherfucker, we chopin heads. This is what I've been waiting for this entire time. There's an amazing shot of Reneera when like they're about to walk into the red keep and she's just like, swords not drawn,
Starting point is 00:15:29 just casually walking in and Damon's just like holding that thing like a baseball bat like ready to swing at anybody coming in. He was ready, man. I mean, this whole episode, Damon was on Demon Time. dog man
Starting point is 00:15:40 so there was this like the preview for the next episodes went online and there's the shot of we see in this episode where Reneer is in bed lying around being sad about her sons being dead and Damon's like we we gotta go get ours
Starting point is 00:15:56 people are like man I can't believe that a man would have would do this you know what I'm saying and it's two things one that is kind of how dudes are we can't we don't We don't get like that.
Starting point is 00:16:10 We don't get like, I think emotionally we're supposed to be like, oh man, this is a bad moment. We should, you know, stay in it and like reflect. But we just like,
Starting point is 00:16:19 tough, we got to go get back at it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's being too solution oriented. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that's healthy.
Starting point is 00:16:25 No, no, it's not. That's just how we're going to. If I'm cutting Damon some slack, there were some points with Roone. I was like, hey,
Starting point is 00:16:32 yo, everybody watching, cut his head off. Like, like, but that's the thing about Damon. And that's why, like, I don't want to say he's, like, the best character in the show. I think we can argue about that.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But to him, there's always work to be done, right? So I understand Yelotas' sons, boo-hoo. We got to go. Kingsland is for the taking, big don't. Let's lock it. And then she activates. She gets up out out of that bed. When she says he's gone.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, once she finds out, Amy and left on Vega, she's like, hold on. I kind of, I kind of feel it again. There's a mixture of, like, I don't even know if, I don't even know if he's cynical. He's just a warrior. Yeah. And so, like, there's a way that he is able to commit that the other ones aren't. I mean, when you're a hammer, every
Starting point is 00:17:16 solution is a nail, right? I don't know if that's actually the same. No, yeah, that's the same. You got it. Why are you, tell me, why are you second guessing yourself? It didn't feel right. Yeah, you're cooking right now. But that's who he is. And so, whenever there's an issue, never
Starting point is 00:17:31 there's a problem, I'm going to correct this. We're going to solve it. That's all you got. What are you going to do? Man, he's like, we're here now. You see me killing niggas? I'm like Matt Marnigan. Like, I'm wanting to do this bitch cutting people up. Y'all didn't even get the reference. The smile on his face, when he wheels auto in there, he's loud.
Starting point is 00:17:47 He feels auto in there, like, look at who off that. It's Chris. Yeah, it's fun today. Damon and Amon, these guys love to kill. Yeah. These guys, what were the characters from the original run that just loved killing? All right, Jamie didn't love kill him, but he did find some gleeing being like, y'all don't know how, like, slick I am.
Starting point is 00:18:13 At first, when he stabbed that guy at his face, he was having fun. Remember that joint? That's the first time, because you see people doing it in the show now when they, they were fucking you off the sword and they take out the knife, they stab you. I got a knife, bitch. He's like, he did that. He was having fun. He loved to kill maybe Braun. Nah, not Braun.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Not Braun. Not Braun. I mean, I want to say it was fun, but it was satisfying for all. aria to kill. Not a little glee. Once she started getting hands. Got a taste of it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I'm just, I mean, obviously the sadistic sons of bitches, Rams. The mountain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The mountain.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But, like, two of the words, like, Damon and Amyman, they love to kill. Amen clears out Haring Hall. By the way, phenomenal scene.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Vigar rides into Haring Hall. Oh, the shot of that dragon. Like, like, Vagor looks fucking terrifying. fine. I put myself, I watched that thing three times, and I put myself in the place of one of those guys watching that fucking dragon
Starting point is 00:19:12 coming. There's nothing you could do. Then after he did, I wasn't expecting him to get off the dragon and then get busy. He gets off the dragon, like, I want mine too. But also like, some of those guys are on fire, though. Some of those guys are on fire, though, you know what I'm saying? But he just, we weren't to kill, though.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He was... And what's so jeezed about this episode to me is kind of putting... The show has always done this, but Damon and Amon kind of being mirrors of each other. And it was so funny seeing Amon kind of dispatched some bench warmers. And Damon's going
Starting point is 00:19:44 in there, he's like, these are Kings Guards. These are people who are like nice with the sword. And he's like, bro, you all can't do anything. And then he just gets pricked by the strong kid and then he just goes down. That was when I was a little bit like, Amon, the lights were too bright. How are you going to? How are you going to let these sickly motherfuckuskis stick you in the back?
Starting point is 00:20:02 That's what he get, though, for mess. with the homie strong, what he do? They were literally just in a broken down-ass house and two of these guys just coming. I was like, I'm taking hair, I'm like, all right, dude, fine, whatever. Yeah, and then he was like, hey, man, I ain't well no swords. But how do you let somebody, how do you let this wildfire? Like, he was like shaking with the, with the night.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm like, I'll say something. I'm like, I'll say something. Crazy. I knew that, I knew that Strong was dead when he walked over there, try to toss some sense to him. I'm like, don't do that. Yeah. He asked you to get the sword.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Don't play with this nigga. We went over there, he got stabbed. I was looking at his people. I'm like, yo, man. Locking. When y'all going to get busy? And they did. And I was happy.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I was happy to see him get stabbed. I know he's going to be fine. But I was happy to see him get stabbed. But more to the point, the entire Heron Hall sequence. Something about Heron Hall, obviously, it's ruins, but it's also so grand. It creates a phenomenal scale in the show. It looks vast. It's.
Starting point is 00:21:04 burned, but there are parts of it that are untouched because it's just so gigantic, right? It's almost like this tomb to like, it would make sense that the fighting would happen there because it was from a different era of King. Well, so like the history of Heron Hall is, what Heron the Black was like, I'm going to build this huge, gigantic, impenetrable castle. And then when Agon was conquering Westrose, he was like, hey, Aaron, we could, we could parlay. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:21:32 He was like, no, actually. I'm a, we gonna fight, you're not taking my castle. And Agon said, Bet, when the sun rises the next day, I'm laying it all out. Sun comes up,
Starting point is 00:21:44 he takes Balaurean, and he burns a stone. Like, it turns to wax, right? But the castle, to your point, is so grand and so big that, like, even though a lot of it is destroyed,
Starting point is 00:21:56 it's still operational. Now, people, like, throughout the history of rest rows, they think it's cursed because anybody who, like, Heron's Heron Hall dies in some accident, meets their end, to whatever, whichever, whatever. And so, like, Harenhall itself is a place that throughout Westrolese legend, people meet their end in incredible ways.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And so strong just being there, hey, man, what's going on? But then Amon, too. It got him too. Yeah. Like, he's in there. He's, like, he could not overcome the bad juju that's on the cast. I mean, we saw it last season with Damon, just, like, spirits and ghosts and everything. thing. Like, Heron Hall is, like, legitimately cursed.
Starting point is 00:22:35 That's why I would not have, like, stiff the witch. When she starts, like, hey, could I have hair and home? Like, you can have whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah, please don't give me any bad dreams with me and my mom. You can have whatever you want, sis. Like, I got you. Why would Damon even, like...
Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, I mean, Damon, I mean, I guess he's a king consort. You probably can be like, you can have it. But this is the problem with the Westero... I'll put in a good word. I'm going to put in a good word with the whites. But honestly, half of this show is, hey, help me do this one thing. do I get? I don't know, you get a castle. All right, we'll see you on the other side of it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 If we, if this works out, like, just make empty promises all the time at this point. Yeah, David was walking. I was like, Damon, I'm going to be real with you. You talk you to these two dragon writers crazy. You can't be talking to Ulf like this. Well, look at his face. You can see that this motherfucker is about to stab y'all in the back. That was, that scene was funny, man. When he come up, he like, you know what? He walked in and was like, I know I day see who I think I see.
Starting point is 00:23:31 He was like, what are you doing? I know that ain't what I think it is. What you're going to do in here? And not to get on my race shit. They tried to throw my brother under the bus. He's like, well, he left too. Hey, yo, some solidarity. They're like, yeah, he tried to find a dad.
Starting point is 00:23:47 You're like, yeah, can we talk about niggas on the beach? Dude, dude, dude. I loved it. This was some strong black Game of Thrones state's naked. So we had C-Sake, his two boys. Alan and Adam. Alan and Adam.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And Bela. They look beautiful. They're on the beach. It's just them, a bunch of dead bodies around C-Snake. We all knew C-Snake was going to be found and stuff. And they're ruminating. And I thought it actually was kind of a powerful moment for Game of Thrones, a show that's always been criticized around this. It's a moment that doesn't seem force.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Story brought us here. Yeah. But niggas on the beach after a battle. We're on the high seas. We're on the dragon. We got a beautiful sister. I think she's probably biracial, right? She is.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And so, like... Why did you have to add that? Why did you have to add that, bro? That was so unnecessary. Apologize. My bad, dog. I apologize. I'll find out that she actually is, so...
Starting point is 00:24:58 But, but no, I thought... But because we don't really come back to them as a whole throughout the rest of the episode. No. But that's an interesting thread. And I think that while the episode does take off once we get back to Heron Hall, to Kings Landing, to Renera and all of this stuff, I do think that what's going to happen with their little foundation is an interesting thread for the show right now. I just would have said if I was Adam and Allen, I would have just been like the corollus. I'm like, I appreciate you giving me the name. but it's funny you doing this when you're not rich anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:32 You know what I'm saying? Like you could have done this when you actually had a little bit of the things to pass down. Now you want to give me the name. Oh, when you're broke, it's our name now. Yeah. Come on, bro. Well, he kind of don't have any, like, he literally has nothing else left. The houses, the riches are all gone.
Starting point is 00:25:46 His wife gone. His kids are gone. He has literally nothing else except for his name. Right. And terrible timing. You are right. But at this point, it's really all he's got left. Luckily, the kid liked it.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You guys are also thinking about this in a, in a contemporary setting. If you, one of these niggas, you gotta be so snancy fucking, you gotta walk around with a scarlet letter of bastarddom. Like, I know mad niggas, you don't know
Starting point is 00:26:13 they bastards until it's time for PTA. You know, you'll go to school and you... And then you just see who comes to class. Why are y'all? Why is that controversial? No, it's not controversial. It's not funny. You go there.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But just think, but just think of in real life, if every bastard that we knew had to have a special name, that would be a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? That would be so funny. If every bastard we knew had to have
Starting point is 00:26:41 in your mama ho! Yeah, yeah, like yeah, I'm from Louisiana. Van, how many snows did you know? My whole boy Bryant was Bryant's swamp. Bright! All right. I just do want to, not to interrupt the podcast, but we do have to offer
Starting point is 00:26:56 retraction. she is biracial Of course So You know Y'all not fucking with me I know what I got going on I wasn't wrong
Starting point is 00:27:05 I was to say she was not biracial It was more so I thought we were past We had never We never passed Hey I promised two people That I would stop That's the last time
Starting point is 00:27:17 Okay All right we're gonna mark these words That's the last time Hold you to this But I knew But I knew And he knows every time But also I gotta
Starting point is 00:27:26 Should I read I got an email from a biracial guy. I got fan mail from a biracial guy that wanted to talk. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, read the email. I want to read. I'll read it. How long is,
Starting point is 00:27:36 I hope it's a long email. It's not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, he was speaking to you. He wasn't, he was, reached you. He wasn't being a hoe.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I wouldn't say. Okay. He wasn't being a ho. He wasn't being a ho. And you can respect that. I'll do it next time. Okay. I can't do it right now because I got sign into all of this shit and do I do that shit.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I want to do that. But look. So, okay. This episode. Yes. Heavy on the drama. Yep. Which I love.
Starting point is 00:28:11 We're into, we're two episodes in and we've got a high profile body count. We got a dead prince. Mm-hmm. A dead hand of the king. Mm-hmm. And I guess you could say that strong, was kind of the Heron Hall guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Kind of a counselor to Damon a little bit. He was the ward of Heron Hall. So we have some real stakes in this world. And Master of Lords, if you want to count that asshole. What happened? And Master of Lords. Oh, the dudes that try to us. So we have some real, real stakes that's happening in this so far.
Starting point is 00:28:44 People are dropping like flies. We're getting out to the knee gritty. So once again, I really did think that this was like a phenomenal episode. I was questioning how we got to some of this. Like, per example, like, Allison getting Helena to, like, to tell the soul, I was like, hey. I love that scene, though. Because Helena, again, she don't belong. She don't belong in this story at all.
Starting point is 00:29:11 No, she's not, she's too pure for this world. She's out there. I want to race chickens. I want to count bugs. I mean, she said I want to race chickens. I'm like, girl, you're getting captured. It's not going to be like that. But then when Allison is doing her maneuvering, she's like, hey.
Starting point is 00:29:23 If the dragon show up, it's all good. And the dude's like, wait, nah, but the king, and she's like, no, by the queen. And then Helena jumps in and she's like, yeah, uh, no, don't do that. No animal cruelty. And then she, she gets like the little like, I did it. Like, smile. I'm like, man, it's sweet. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:42 If I see four dragons fine over, hey, I'm like, hey, we got to shoot that. Like, do you? Really? I mean, give you the greens, yeah. Like, we're going to die anyway. But to his point, this is part of like the little, like, you know, the changes that they made from a book to the show where Allison and Rainer's relationship is so like, it's like the most important relationship in the show. And so now you have to weave that through four seasons of TV. And they have their machinations to have Rainira come and take Kings Landing.
Starting point is 00:30:15 She goes and wards the gold cloaks. She tries to tell a sore lawyer or whatever is the deuce or Rickard. And this is all. this is all TV. This is all TV. This is all TV contrived. And this is what I'm actually kind of loving about the show the most
Starting point is 00:30:29 is because the ways the ways in which they fabricate storylines outside of the books and sometimes to contradict the book is to me good TV writing when we have this conflict that is constantly trying to both be resolved
Starting point is 00:30:43 and fought for at the same time. Because the Allison Renera thing about all of this is it seemingly in the beginning of this season at least is because of the fact that they are trying to connive in further peace and less bloodshed and like less casualties as possible they always end up making it worse. Well it just seems like
Starting point is 00:31:03 what the real enemy of this entire world right now, the real enemy in this world is civility. They are so deep into warfare that there is no room for compassion. There's no room for civility. there's no room for figuring out a peaceful way out of this. The path of least resistance has been incinerated. It can't happen anymore. There's nothing you can do behind the scenes. There's only surrender and victory.
Starting point is 00:31:36 That's it. Because all of the little things that could have been done, and this is a lesson, it's a lesson. At the beginning of a, there's no such thing, mostly, there are a couple of examples. There's no such thing as a gigantic conflict that couldn't have been worked out at the beginning of it. Almost always.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Right. The very beginning. Now, there are sometimes that you get a crazy motherfucker that tries to take over a whole continent and that's just nuts. But there are very few conflicts that could not have been worked out at the beginning of them. But, man, once the bombs start flying
Starting point is 00:32:12 and the people start dying, then it's hard to get yourself out of that motherfucker. We see that's happening right now. Right. Now's all, and that's where they are. Allison, Panera tried to hatch a little. Everybody's not with that.
Starting point is 00:32:26 There's too many moving parts. There's too much on the line. There's too much that's happening. Now you're in it. It has to go back. I mean, I think one of the best moments of this episode is when Reneera, like Damon, Damon,
Starting point is 00:32:45 hands are the sword. And Otto already knows, you don't got it in you to swing this the way you need to swing it to make my death quick. That's not true. That's not what you do. But it says so much about the story because for Renera, it's really easy to burn people when you're on the back of a dragon. When you have to have a sword in your hand and you have to look the person in the eye that has been the source of your hatred for so long, you do have to ask yourself, do I have the stomach to be? a killer and do it myself. And I was like, I was like, that is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Also, you know that you on the slick side, low-key, low-side, made a little deal with his daughter. And so you're in a situation where not only do you not want to kill him, you don't, not only are you not capable of killing him, you don't know if you want to. Yeah, because what happens at the end of this episode is bound to happen. Like if this would have been five, six episodes before this, then lie, you see him, op, boom, boom, boom, whole shit, or whatever. But now you don't know if you want to anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You don't know what this means. Nah, but you can't, but, I mean, talk about this at the beginning, top of the episode. You leave him alive. You start, you send a message. Oh, you can't do that. You can't. No, you got to stand on business. You have to stand on business.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And so that's why, to your point, when you, when she's on the phone and she's looking at Allison, she's like, hey, dog, like, I don't know what you want to do. That is. did piss me off a little bit. Great acting, but I was like, Allison, come on now. That's the same. She on the Iron Throne.
Starting point is 00:34:22 She can't leave your dad. Like, you know what this is. Allison, even though she did not know that her dad was there. You said stand on business. What that scene demonstrated to me was this. Choose your business wisely. Sure. Because then you have to stand on it.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah. Choose your business wisely. that's a tough situation at the end of that episode. That's a tough one. I was like, oh shit. But what I want to ask is, I was getting worried the entire episode because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:34:55 oh, you were. Hey, Renira, have a Damon on your side. Like, that's a dog. Right. Mm-hmm. You're showing a lot of weakness around someone who's licking his chops the closer he gets to the iron throat.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I was a little bit like, hey, yo, over there. Nah, man. David knows his place. David, David, they know where his bread's butter. He can't mess around. Now, what's interesting is that?
Starting point is 00:35:20 No, because he got, because what's, um... He got threatened by Masaria. But, and he was even like, you could see he's just like, oh, I left for a little bit and the rest of y'all trying to get some power. I don't know how I feel about this. Yeah. I was like, oh, I noticed that you and Masaria got a little close. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Hmm. I didn't know you could do that. Hey, Reneer, how's that consort going? over there. He's, what's up with y'all? He's jealous. I think I don't,
Starting point is 00:35:46 I like her. I like Masariah too. I like how Dev's, she's from Devs. Oh, from Dev? Yeah, she's from Devs. I've seen Dev's, that's, fucking great.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Dives is awesome. Was that like pandemic TV? Was it? I think it was like late pandemic TV? Early? Early? Late pandemic. What were, wait,
Starting point is 00:36:02 I was too busy watching Avatar. Dev's was a pandemic show. Debs pandemic. Oh, Mandelaide and Grogo was definitely a soldier. Falconer was a job. But I'm talking about even like the hits. Like what's that one?
Starting point is 00:36:15 It didn't come out during the pandemic, but I remember it blowing up the Waco show. Oh, the Waco show? Hey, bro, Yellowstone kind of blew up during the pandemic. I thought of watching Yellowstone. Oh, shit, last of us. The pandemic show was Tiger King. Tiger King.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Oh, yeah. Hey, you know what the pandemic show is more than any other thing? The last dance. Oh, wow. Yeah. The last dance. Honestly, Sunday nights, we was like, immediate, like, like put the, put the,
Starting point is 00:36:42 Keep the ringer's lights on levels of content from that. Like, I should call Jason right now. I don't know. I'm not going to do that to me. But like, that was, that was like hope. It really was. Like, we are going to make it. It was like, it was like, it was like, I was a documentary is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Bro. Oh my God. That's what we was doing. We know that we could get the screens early for that. We did. It's a history that we know. Yeah. I'm in the house. I'm like, yo man, turn Martin off.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We didn't watch all the Martin. We didn't watch all that. shit. And they say, hey, you know the Jordan? Like, hey, you know the Jordan doc? I'm like, yeah, that bitch come out next year. She goes, no. I'm like, what? She's like, they're going to release it in two weeks. I was like, you like, no. Two weeks, man, man, first take wasn't hitting on shit. There was nothing. First take
Starting point is 00:37:35 was on that bitch like, who's better? Bob Cousie or John Stockton. First take wasn't, first take wasn't hitting on. Nothing was popping, bro. Nothing was popping, bro. It was the last dance versus and D. Nice. Or else we would have all killed each other. Dog, the versus all the first. The first one.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Or else we'd all fucking killed each other. Nigger, we was doing going on. Fishing trips. We was doing, we was doing, we was doing. I was going to the lake. I was like, God. Whatever the fuck we. Just to be next to the water.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And it was dope, man. I remember going outside in downtown LA. Go outside downtown LA. I look. Middle Road. Empty. Deer? Deer?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Deer. Animal. Oh, no, man. Animal. The animals, the animals, the animals, the animals was like, it's like Engen. It's like, Engen.
Starting point is 00:38:24 The animals was like, are y'all finally dead? He's like, did we do it? Like, the animals is like, are y'all was a deer? Like, it wasn't downtown, like, a little bit eastern. But like, it's like, animals like, are y'all finally dead? Are y'all dead? Because if y' y'all dead, we've taken this bitch back over, like we had it before. I know it wasn't good for the industry, but when they started setting
Starting point is 00:38:41 in some of that movies to stream and I'm like, bro, I need something to watch. We really did. Like, dog, what were the movies that they said? Suicide squad for sure. Suicide squad. One to one.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Dun. Mutant. Doom. The Godzilla one? Tenet. The Godzilla. Black Widow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So all of those. No, because we saw Black, I saw Black Widow in the theaters. Well, we had the screener, the screening. He had to test. We had the text negative. Had the mask on.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Our first big screening was Shang Chi. Shang-chi, that's what we-ness. Yeah, masked up. Massed up Shang-she in the London Hotel. Yeah. Massed up Shang-she in the London Hotel. Back to House of the Dragon.
Starting point is 00:39:21 What is the status of the Greens right now? Because they in disarray. Amon's and Heron Hall. Agon, we saw Agon on the run with Laris. There, I mean, soon they're going to work for us to try and see what's up of Sunfire. Yeah. Long and the dying. How many dragons do the Greens have on the board left?
Starting point is 00:39:41 So technically sheepstealer No Not really There's not a green Or not a green No no It's Vagar
Starting point is 00:39:48 It's Dreamfire Who is Helena's dragon But she don't She don't ride It's sunfire And there's one more That I'm I can't remember
Starting point is 00:40:00 Who's dragon It's It's um Oh no I said DeTheron Right Can I say to Teterion Sunfire
Starting point is 00:40:09 Vagar and Dreamfire That's it Okay There it is So four. So four, and then Jehara has an egg. Right. That we're waiting on.
Starting point is 00:40:16 That we, who knows what O'Hatchel will come out of there. But yeah, those are the four dragons. Fagar, Sunfire, Deserion, and Dreamfire. So the blacks. For the blacks, deeper roster. What? What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I mean, they are. Say it again, Joe. They have black people. They're blacks. They're blacks. Go ahead. I want to hear. Speaking of black dragon riders, they have Adam.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Right. And then Bela. on Moon Dancer, then they're off you, what do you call it, Karaxi's with Damon, Syrac with, what's her name? Renaira. And then you have Sheep Steeler. Sheep Steeler is in Switzerland a little bit. I mean, I would assume that she's leaning Team Black.
Starting point is 00:41:05 However, sheepstilers are her own dragon. I mean, but here's the thing, you know, after getting Jace killed I don't know if the blacks really are really fucking with sheep stealer tough like that then you technically have uh Taraxes who is
Starting point is 00:41:24 one of uh Reneira's sons dragons but like he's a baby storm cloud is a baby dragon they're like often pentosa or SOS wherever and then I think there's an egg oh no then Maly's is dead Jace and
Starting point is 00:41:41 what do you call it? And Vermet Vermax are dead and then we lost whose dragon did we lose in season one but there are three
Starting point is 00:41:51 dead dragons that are gone So the older ladies dragon No, Mayleys is the first one Yeah, Mayleys and Vermin
Starting point is 00:41:57 Oh Luceris Erex Right Yeah They're dragons They're dragons They're dead So they've got a deeper
Starting point is 00:42:02 roster of dragons They've got like what Like seven Or No that's They got like Nine Dragons But
Starting point is 00:42:10 they really only have like seven they can tap into right now. So they've got a deeper roster, but the talent, again, like we talk about Oof, we talk about Hugh. O'Hugh. Poor Oof, man.
Starting point is 00:42:24 She's still a really on, you know, so it's a little, she was a great agent. He was a yes, man. Like, I sometimes I'd be like, hey, yo, stand up for your brother. Right. Here's a thing.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Oh, to, against, to, against Damon? You know what I'm saying? I mean, I would stand up, but you did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:38 This is what I would say. You want to stand a, You want to stay on business. I'm like, hey, yo, motherfucker, we still got Dragon's yon. Help. Like, we out. Don't be slapping me around. Yeah, I can't get slapped to my mouth.
Starting point is 00:42:49 There is a level of respect that, like, you got to offer me. But at the same time, it's Damon Targary. It makes absolutely sense that he would not respect those guys. That nigga Jomey gets smacked into it. Hey, Chuck, that nigga Jomey can get smacked in this shit, though. Yeah, but I'd still be alive, though, you understand. Because you can, you can do it. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 You can be like, hey, hey, Chuck. That nigga, that nigga, that nigga Jomi is about here to get smacked in this mouth by my white man. Well, that's crazy. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? What happened to 20 minutes ago? Jomi wouldn't even be at the meeting.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Jomi will be flying around. He'd be like, y'all can get yelled at. I'm not going to be here. Jomey. So Jomey saying, C.R. just slapped the shit out of him. He ain't going to do that. Come on.
Starting point is 00:43:26 All right. That is. Can you imagine it? C.R is the David of the ringer. Just sliding. Slip on. The J. The David of the ring.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like, CR, C.R. C.R. C. See, J. See, I was like, what? I do not require your thoughts. What are you doing? I require your Instagram reels.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Nobody asked you to think. That's crazy. See, I come to the office. Nobody asks you to tick. But once again, though, like in the show, I do wonder what microaggressions like that are going to lead to. Like, people should be asking themselves. Like, everything is turned up to fucking 15 right now.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Damon himself in this episode. gets Harenhall basically turned against him. Like, once, Vagar is in Harenol, I'm like, I already know where this is going. You see Chris O'Kill look up and go, all right, guess, we're going to where the dragon going. You already got the dragon seeds where some of the dragon seeds, they're going to ride with you. Like I said, you take one look at Oaf and you're like, hey. The lights might be too bright. I know he not a team player and I know he can be bought.
Starting point is 00:44:31 You know some people I'm like, I know it's not exactly a coalition of the willing. Yeah. I mean, even last week, right, when he was like, all right, man, I'm gonna get a castle, man. They're like, but dog, I don't know who, I don't know if you got to respect. They're gonna respect because of the dragon.
Starting point is 00:44:44 This is where, you know, the blacks are not really great at negotiating. If you're gonna give these people some dragons, you have to be like, hey, yo, just find them a castle. Nothing too big, like middle of the road. Like, just get out of those. You can't put them up.
Starting point is 00:44:58 A castle stipend? Yeah. But no, you need more carrots. Because, like, you treating them like shit. And they are, it's like in the prestige when, like, you remember the movie to prestige? No, I've never seen him. Of course.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, you never saw it? I've seen it's great. Okay. We remember with a prestige where they add the body double to the fucking show. Right. And then he's like, I need more money. And he's like, I need more money because he realizes that he's super important to the fucking show. And you just can't fuck over him like that.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Like, in this situation, it's kind of similar to do. You need me. I could go chill. This is not my fight. Like, you need me. You ain't going to treat me like shit, too. I'm waiting for those guys to realize that. You want to know what it really is?
Starting point is 00:45:35 What? Tell me. This is the rock of fift. chain. You know what I'm saying? You give him a Rockefeller chain. He's not worried about his publishing. He's not worried about what he signed up. He's like, but I got the chain. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got to give him the carrot. The carrot is a
Starting point is 00:45:48 Rockefeller chain where you're like, hey, yo, just give Oof just a little something on the side to shut him the fuck up. Hugh, you don't got to give Hugh. He genuinely does not need much. Like, just put him up for something. If we need a real, he's also speaking towards something that I think Renira, Damon, are going to be very bad at as leaders, which is realizing, like, hey, at the end of the day, you, not only
Starting point is 00:46:16 are you guys not fighting for anything, but the people you're allying yourselves with, what is their dog really in this fight long term? Yeah. Yeah. I guess the thing is interesting because, like, what, you have, like, dusk and Dale, you have, like, all these, like, you know, like the towers, like, you just can, like, kick the phrase out and be like, hey, guys, thanks for coming, you know, but this guy got a drag, you know what I'm I got to help us out.
Starting point is 00:46:39 He had to help us out. You know what I'm saying? So if you could just like, you know, you got two weeks to evict you, you know what I'm saying? But you can go find a little, little place somewhere to fossil ways. But you're going to tell a little,
Starting point is 00:46:48 little, but also what does it do? What does it do to the mind when you're riding on drag, you were nothing? You were nothing in this world. Now you're riding up, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:57 to Kings Landing, landing on the fucking buildings, boarding yourself over. You couldn't tell me shit. Right. Right. But also, like, Oof is fascinating
Starting point is 00:47:05 because he is the personification of the small folk. and to know that even with the absolute power given to him by a dragon, he still doesn't even command respect to the people that also have dragons. And it's going to be that folly, I'm sure, that is going to be a bit of a downfall for some Targaryans, I'm sure, because they're nothing but ignorant. And they don't know how to treat people and talk to people. And actually they speak in the language of conquest and violence and lust and all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:36 They don't have to relate to people. that destroyed all arms. And to be persuasive and connect and all of that stuff. They can't even do it with each other in their own family. Legitimately, when you look at Rainer, she looks gone. Yeah. She looks like she's afflicted with something. It's completely changed.
Starting point is 00:47:53 This entire war is not a war. It's a plague. It's a plague. And you're starting to see the symptoms of this plague kill this dynasty and these majestic creatures who just want to fly around and do what they're told. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And so I'm watching this show and I am very, very captivated by its ability to maintain this momentum and completely up the ante scene to scene. Do you, although he's back in the show, I was dead. Man.
Starting point is 00:48:22 They brought my man respect for 15 seconds. Dead. I did love that scene, though, and the guy's like, hey, we got to give courtesy Lord Laris and then David looks in and he starts laughing. This dude. This guy.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I did lose a little bit of respect for a Niro where I was just like, hey, yo, this man done fucked up your whole life. Let's not cry over. Get it done. I mean, she's got a lot going on, man. She's got a lot going on. This is scheming on your whole family for decades.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I mean, this actually might be the one, like, I don't even actually know how to feel about that. Because on the one hand, I do get it, but then on the other time, you can't be hesitating like this. Wait, am I misremembering the show? Otto was running around. No, no, he, absolutely right. Otto was like, absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Otto was like, hey, Allison, go hang out with radio his dad. Just go be there. We'll see what happens. I'm not saying that Otto didn't earn his own death. I do say that for her, it was probably a mixed bag. Just being, because, like, they were friends when they were kids. They just had essentially reconnected.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And when they reconnected, to me, that shows that they were putting their connection, their friendship, over everything else that was going on. That was a deal. And that could have been a saving grace. Like I said, if people could just learn to do that, then things would be figured out.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Everything could be over. But you can't. You can't do it. Like, it's impossible. And so when she killed, when she killed him, she didn't just kill him. She didn't want to kill the idea
Starting point is 00:49:58 that her and Allison could still figure this out. No, yeah. And I love that part of it. Just like, narratively speaking, maybe I'm an idiot. The minute that Allison does agree to like just the minute Allison does agree
Starting point is 00:50:15 to essentially hand the Iron Throne and King's Landing to Reneer, I was like, Agon is going to have to die, Amon is going to have to die if they find out auto. That's where I was a little confused where I'm like, you know what is you're doing.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Or did she not? I actually don't think that she can really fully grasp the consequences of everything that's come to this. And she's really just taking it as it comes because at every term, she is overwhelmed with how much the world is fucking her over. And it's not that she's ignorant to the fact. Usurpers, though. I understand. You surpers just, like, it is the history. Like, it is like you cannot let someone who you claim steal the throne from you and his hand of the king.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You just can't. I, man. I was hoping to throw. violence and bail, but the more I think about it, she's overmatched, she's outgunned. She's trying. She had all the pathetic. This was one of the worst trades
Starting point is 00:51:13 at Westeros history. That's a bad play. Yeah, because you give us eyes peace of mind, but not really, because they killed your dad, and now they're going to kill your sons. Oh, no, now she, no, she's fucking, she just got me. But they were always going to have to kill her sons. Yeah. But, like,
Starting point is 00:51:27 you don't think about that. She's like, I mean, I guess A-A-on, like, left, whatever. She got lucky there. She had to send Amon to Haren Hall. She had to let him kiss her for him to go. And now your dad's dead. You and your daughter, I assume, are going to get captured because that's what you got to do in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:51:47 They might put you to the sword next if you're not careful. Oh, but she's been, she's been, like, re-radicalized now. She just walked in with her dad. Like, her dad's got no head. She's been re-radicalized. Sure. So like she, so there's no, she's now in the back of her brain. Like she's, there's going to be no thought about what she do.
Starting point is 00:52:10 She will react now to things. She will react. She will now look at this as loss and betrayal. And so now the first person that comes to her with a good idea about how she can fuck them all, she's going to listen. Well, but so once again, where sometimes I get lost and like how to, like, how to. A, B, C, equal each other is like, her two sons are dead because of the Greens. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so it's like, that's why I little was like, I don't know how much she loves them. Well, so, I mean, let's do it. Let's just do it like, let's go bad for band, right? Amen kills Luke, right?
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah. And then, at least in the show, blood and cheese kill Jaharis. Right. Right. So now it's all tied up 1-1. Okay. Then Jace dies.
Starting point is 00:53:07 In the triarchy. That's not like, but I lost the son. Now it's 2-1. Now auto dies. It's 2-2. We're just best of three now. We got to see. I would just say while they did not kill her father,
Starting point is 00:53:23 they did kind of ice her out while her father was dying. She didn't even get no time to grieve. He had syphilis or whatever it was. Yeah, that was good here. Yeah, like he was already on the way out, you know. They didn't like put the last shiv in them, you know what I'm saying? Now, do we, it's Mayle's as a body. If Mayleys is a body now, the blacks are down three, two.
Starting point is 00:53:49 You got to go, you got to go get some back. You got to go get aiming. You got to go get Agon. Somebody got to pay. Yeah, but all this math is like, when does it end? When does it stop? It doesn't. Sin be gets in.
Starting point is 00:54:00 That's the point. Okay. Where are we leaving it now is the Iron Throne has been taken. Taking the Iron Throne. Technically, it's a win. Well, we know we're not getting out of it like that. We still have an injured Aman somewhere. He is with the witch, which let's see how that's crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Fun times ahead. I mean, you got to think about it. He was, she was ready with Damon. And now she gets his little, little. like, what do they call it? Like his mimic, his shadow. His little shadow. We don't see what that's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It's going to be a fun dynamic. Once again, Amon, I will just, I have to reiterate this. Amon does not have it. Like, he's walking around like he's a little Damon and you're not. He's not. No, he's not. But I'll say this. He's incredibly dangerous.
Starting point is 00:54:48 We'll see how he gets, we'll see now how he deals with the castle. Maybe he deals with the castle and the witch and the hunted shit better than Damon did. But then back in King's Landing, this is obviously, a market that's not going to hold. And the question is how it falls apart. So you have everybody out, still kind of figuring things out, but intense, intense politics happening at Kings Landing. Who are the people going to go with?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Who are the people going to believe? People believe in this new queen. I bet that they don't. Who's still ready to strike? Do you have enough force? All of that stuff. All these dragon riders are going to become more important now. You're going to be able to smack them around.
Starting point is 00:55:27 You have to make that right. A lot of threads to pull. pull on right now for the show after the second episode. What will the niggas on the beach do? Do do, do. I mean, what I'm interested in is now this show has always been coded as the blacks are the side that you're rooting for and the greens are pitched as the villains. And after this episode, I'm like, oh, this is the flip where it's like, can you still keep rooting for Renera? and her side,
Starting point is 00:56:01 and Dave and all of this, or are we getting to a point where it's like, and this is where the show obviously has to go. It's like, you know, absolute power,
Starting point is 00:56:08 corrupts absolutely. Reneira, the moment she sits on that throne, I'm like, okay, yeah, it's over. Nice, that member of Superman reference.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I remember Superman. That was real. If God is all powerful, he can't be good. If God's all good, he can't be all powerful. Consider this mercy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:25 Consider this mercy. Superman was talking that shit. Don't, Don't make us miss Snyderverse right now. We can't be doing this. Not a supergirl. Fuck y'all. I was having fun.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I thought bad at film was great. All right. Let's not lie. The Snyder's not lie. Nobody said, nobody said it. Nobody said it. Nobody said. Nobody said it.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I didn't say, I was having fun. I was having fun. I was having fun. It's like, do you bleed? Huh? You will. You will. You will.
Starting point is 00:56:51 How can you talk to me this way? Like, if I was flying away, I'd have been like, what? If I heard that, what? What you mean? No, actually, no, I don't bleed. I actually know I know, but you bleed, bitch. Let me think.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I can see your bloodstream right now. Hold your hand up. There goes a finger. Talk to me like that, bitch, hasn't you? Man. Last thing before we get, we didn't talk. Do we talk about Raina going up to the veil? Sitting up there and being like, it's not even nothing to talk about.
Starting point is 00:57:18 No, there's a lot to talk about. No, there's a lot to talk about. Raina. It's like, what the fuck is going on? She's, what is she still, what is she still on, bro? What does she still her arm, bro? She went up there. She was like, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Can I guess what it looks like? If I'm getting up real. I'm on sheep stealer's side. I got all you fucking white-haired crazy-ass imbred folks wanted to use my labor to commit more genocide. No, I'm going to fly around. I'm going to steal sheeps. I'm going to do what dragons are supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Be wild and be free. Yeah. Can't chain me. Like, I'm actually on sheep. If I was sheep stealer, I'm rising up all my dragons against the Targary. Are you trying to unionize the dragons? I think, yeah. But I tell you, who's not trying to do that?
Starting point is 00:58:03 Sheepstiller. She still attack another dragon. She was a dog himself. Well, no, no, because. Because Jason's the dragon? Um, uh, Vermax. Yeah, Vermax is bass as a dragon. He like, like, he, his mind is already colonized.
Starting point is 00:58:14 You can't save him. So then who can you say? Bitch, they all got. All right, that's enough. Show's cooking. We're enjoying the show for a round. I'm in. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 This is a great episode. It's a great episode, A House of the Mother. fucking dragon, okay? And you guys can't turn off the ringerverse podcast network dot com. What? dot net.
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Starting point is 00:59:00 we've been doing it the whole time. Okay. On Tuesday, Regiverse recommends his back. Do you guys have an idea of what you'll be recommending? We might have been hit up by one Ben Lindberg
Starting point is 00:59:08 to talk about a couple of things. Benny B. Big Benny B. On Wednesday, Midnight Boys cover the three episode premiere of X-Men 97. Cyclops.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Wolverine. Wolverine. What is Wolverine game come out again? September. September. September. Now, we got to play it.
Starting point is 00:59:27 We got to play it. Yeah. We should be live stream, live stream. Live stream. We should kind of see who can rack up the biggest body count.
Starting point is 00:59:35 How about to suppose where do we get the PS5? They stole the last one. You know, who got the PS5? We never really got to the bottom. Who stole the PS5? Of the mystery.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Right. Of who stole the PS5? Is this the next episode of wait a second? Should be stole the PS5? Who stole the PS5 out of the Actually, Concepcion should do that. I wanted to do it and my hands were kind of cuffed. But I want to know through interviews and through detective work.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Right. Who fucking stole the PS5? Do we have a list of suspects? We do. We do. We can disclose? We do. But is Nick, Jomi's a suspect?
Starting point is 01:00:20 Jomey. He's got to be. We actually, when we was over at your house on Juneteenth, he was talking about how he left his PS5. at his house, maybe he has one at his apartment. You don't want us to come through. Left it at his house. It's supposed to be your house,
Starting point is 01:00:36 Jomey. Yeah, I'm left it at my house, my brother's playing. We're going to go to Jomi's house and put a PS5, and we're going to see the remnants of like a green sticker on top of that. The anti-theft explosion. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I'm producer there, ladies and there's CT, Devon Beraldi, Jomi and Dineron. Hashhtack Jomi on the beach and additional producer. Reduction from Arjuna, Ram, Kapoor. Chuck, take us out. Hot D is cooking with fish grease,
Starting point is 01:01:08 Sheep Steeler killing them coast to coast, and shout out to all my strong black families in Westeroast.

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