The Ringer-Verse - ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 7 Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: August 3, 2026

The Boys are back, and they’re starting off on a tangent! They eventually give you all of their thoughts on ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 7, diving into the math behind the incest in t...he show and weighing who, if anyone, is fit to rule Westeros. But first, they give you their thoughts on San Diego Comic-Con 2026! (0:00) Intro (24:48) Spoilers ahead (26:52) ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 7 reactions (1:26:49) Outro Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Devon Baroldi, and Jamie Yukich Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell SUPER TROOPERS 3, only in theaters August 7. Get tickets MEOW! https://www.searchlightpictures.com/super-troopers-3#get-tickets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:14 Joe me. Fellas, man, can you believe? It's been a week since Comic-Con, man. It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it. It feels like we were just there. It feels like we were just there. I've hit the wall.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I'm not going to lie. It's tough. I'm not going to jail. I was like, like, honestly, I got hit with the fatigue. Like when we were doing the Spider-Man pot, I was like, oh my God, I just feel it all now. You know what's funny about this?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Is somebody listening to this in their ears right now at work breaking rocks? Yeah, yeah. And if I'm just like, shut up. It's somebody like listening to this while they like, you know, like lifting fucking shit and putting it in there. Working in quarries. You know what I like, I like jobs. Shout out to jobs, man. I like jobs.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You like jobs? Shut out jobs, man. The American job. Shout out of jobs out there. I like jobs where you wrap something up, check it, and then send it down the line. I don't know why I like that. I'm sorry to get to some. I like jobs where you go.
Starting point is 00:03:14 The factory? Like those Amazon boxers? Shout out to them because they need to be treated better. Where you look at something and you go, hmm, and then somebody else checks it. And like, I like a job where you look something over and you go, that's good to go. Oh, like the QC at the factory. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 No, I like the Instagram videos when they did, like is the one dude that's like, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop on the line. Everybody's like, oh, look at him going crazy. Oh, right. And like, he's the only one who can do that job. He's doing it for 30 years. Yeah, yeah. They can't replace them.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I also like jobs where you sift through things and you throw out the bad ones. Like I saw this one time as a chocolate bar factory where sometimes the chocolate bars come out and they're misshaped. And then somebody's got to throw out the bad chocolate bar or put it back in that thing. I always wonder if, you know, if your chocolate bar is misshaped but you like it, you keep a little chocolate. I love this. This is like the ugly produce. If you're working at the Hershey factory day and day out, you don't want. Like, I used to think that way when I was working in fast food, I'm like, I get all the fries.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I want you, like a week, and you're like, damn. I want no more fries. I can't look at this shit, bro. People used to come into my man, Ryan worked at the McDonald's. And so it's very funny when Ryan worked at McDonald's. Because Ryan worked at McDonald's. Like, they make you, so before you work at McDonald's, you have to go to McDonald's school. Y'all know that, right?
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. So before you work at McDonald's, or at least it used to be this way, before you work in McDonald's, you have to go to McDonald's class. There was a place in Baton Rouge. I remember I dropped my sister off there. There was a place in Baton Rouge where you would go and you would take McDonald's courses before you worked at the McDonald's. They teach you about the law of McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You have to learn, like, Ron McDonald's birthday and, like, like, Ronald McDonald's started varsity in, like, 1969 playing baseball. You have to learn all of these different things about Ronald McDonald's, but you'd have to go to McDonald's school. It's, like, three days before they send you to McDonald's. My man went to McDonald's, and after McDonald's school, he was like, my name and Ryan was like, I don't know. bro. It was like what? He was like,
Starting point is 00:05:15 they really care about McDonald's man. I don't know how to do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They're talking about McDonald's quality control. Like, they're talking about, there was a class about like when McDonald's changed the way they fried to fries and all of this stuff. They're talking to all of this stuff. So some of it's
Starting point is 00:05:30 cleanliness and all of that stuff that you need to learn. But like, he was like, man, I thought I was going to go flip some burgers, make some bread. We can go buy some video games. I don't know about this. So anyway, he first had skepticism then. Then, when, when first started working at McDonald's, they wanted to test his allegiance to McDonald's. So they-
Starting point is 00:05:48 So they scheduled him Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, like a whole weekend. Okay. And I remember, I told him, I was like, well, we're going to see Independence Day, niggins. And if you at McDonald's, that's on you. We're not waiting for you to go see, we're going to see Independence Day. If you're working at McDonald's, when Independence Day come out, that's on you, nigga. Get the fries. and we're going to see Will Smith.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And I remember he just looked at the guy. He goes, for the third, he goes, I'm not working. And that guy goes, you're on the schedule. You're going to work. He goes, I'm not working. I'm not coming in the whole weekend. So you need to find somebody else. And so he doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And I'm like, he's going to see Independence Day with us, right? And I'm like, bro, they're going to fucking fire you. Yeah. Like, you can't do that at no job. No job is going to put you on the sky. schedule. At a fast food chain? At a fast food chain. Like you, like, you can't do that. And he's like, they're not going to fire me.
Starting point is 00:06:50 He's like, nah, bro, they're not going to fire me. They found somebody else to cover it. I'm going back in there Monday. I'm like, are you on the schedule Monday? He's like, I'm normally on the schedule Monday. So I'm just going there like regular. That's insane. So he goes in there. Oh, my God. He goes in there. And the dude is there. And he walks. He said, I walked in. And the first thing I noticed was that my name was like crossed off the
Starting point is 00:07:13 They didn't call them. They wanted him to come in and get fired from McDonald's in person. This is the McDonald's at the corner of Burbank and Lee. Oh, hell, though. In Baton Rouge, right? Like, they wanted him to come in and see that he was fired. Hilarious. So he goes in, and he sees his name cross off on the schedule, and the guy goes,
Starting point is 00:07:33 well, you said you wouldn't work the weekend, so unfortunately this is what we had to do. Now, it was a standoff because that guy wanted Ryan to ask. for his job back. But Ryan was too proud. So if he would have asked for his job back, then he would have gotten it. He probably would have gotten it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But Ryan was too proud to ask for his job back. So he was fired. I thought this was a guy. I was like, yeah, don't fucking, like, beg these motherfucking clowns and McDonald's for your job back. Yeah, you're better than that. But my man Chris was pissed. Right?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yep. I understand. No more McNuggets. Right. Well, you got the plus the plug. We were clod with the McNuggets. But to bring the story full circle. But y'all wasn't real friends where you're like, if he's the McNuggets plug, we go see Independence Day without you.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But we'll roll back on your day off. This is too valuable. I mean, this is my very best friend in the world, like since first grade. I just let him know if you think I'm about to miss out on the opening weekend or Independence Day because you got a schedule on the Friday, Saturday. I can't do it. You got to make some sacrifice. He's going to get y' all up on the time. Fear pressure, though.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Nah, and that, just to bring it back. So, Chris was pissed off that we got no more McNuggets. This is what we was really, we was going crazy on the McNuggets. We're going there, we get the 20 piece of McNuggets. Ryan put 40 fucking McNuggets in the thing. Like, we're going nuts on the Big Nuggets. He was lucky on. He was lucky on.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You could go to all of the Independence Day screening. Sometimes he, we go get fries, and he wouldn't even put the fries in the car. And he just take a bag, double bag that bitch and just fill the bag with fries. Jesus. We riding around Baton Rouge with fries, crazy in the fucking car in the fucking air condition.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Sweeting bag full of fries and the fucking, just crazy. And Ryan goes, he goes, bro, you understand that I'm never going to eat
Starting point is 00:09:27 another McNugget again in my entire life, right? He was like, in three months of working at McDonald's because he was only every day of three months. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:35 In three months, I've had all the McDonald's I'm ever going to need forever. And since that time, Ryan Daven, has not eating for McDonald's. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It only took three months of working there and almost missing Independence Day, actually missing Independence Day, right. For him to never, ever, ever like to fuck with McDonald's ever again. He doesn't eat there anymore. Wow. So, like, to me, I always thought, like, y'all thought, like, nigga, I'm going to wake up, have a Big Mac for breakfast. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Or for lunch, I mean, there's a certain youth that can do that. Yeah. But it took three months for him that never. It took one summer at Applebee's, never again. That two for 20? Applebee's! You don't want to eat it. Applebee's delicious.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Niggy, I saw it. They got prisoners. Two for 20, niggins. Diggins. No, no, I saw two for 20s in a sentence. That's what it is. What? Prisoners is crazy, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Prisoners is crazy. Come on, man. Chili's all of these places. No, you never go get me off Chili's, man. We're supposed to go to Chili's a long time ago. First time you see that bring out, you're like, oh, I'll order a soup. You see a brick, a frozen soup. They just pop that bitch in the microwave and like, do-to-do.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Pop the fucking steak in the microwave? I'm like, oh, no. Well, the steak in the microwave, that's tough. The steak goes in the microwave? I've seen some meats go and then they just do a nice sear. That's not what you want, man. That's not what you want. That's not what you want.
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's not what you want for a stuff. but, you know, dollaritas, they bring out the big plastic tub. I see that on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's tell you what, TikTok has been exposing a lot. The margaritas are a dollar.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I know what you expected. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's going to be made it a buck. Yeah, it's going to get down. Speaking of having fun, we have fun at Comic Con, we didn't really talk about it. So before we get into House of the Dragon,
Starting point is 00:11:33 we haven't even got to program reminders before I told a long-winded story about my youth. The Midnight Boys are back. Before we get into House of the Dragon, we should talk about the fact that we had a lot of fun at Comic Con. Now, we were bonding. We were bonding.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It was fraught with the Marvel Hall-Age panel. Yes, it was. So I'll tell you guys something right now. I spoke to Joe about this, my sister, Joe. What happened, I'm making a plan right now. What happened at Hall-Age this year, I will never do again. Okay. I'm never doing it again.
Starting point is 00:12:05 If moving forward, if one person gets in Hall-Age, that's good enough for me. All right. I'm not doing it. For us to get in to Hall H for Comic-Con this year, we didn't have passes. And it's not, nobody to blame. Like, the nigger from Happy, Sad, Confused had to be accommodated.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And they used him as part of- Wow. It was, okay. Hey, yo, I was a good thing. What? He was a part of it. of the show, guys. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He was a part of the show. No, when they did that, with Ryan Gosling and them was doing that whole stuff, I was like, all right, niggas. Because of the whole thing that Marvel does at Hall H, and I'm definitely not increasing our chances now, that means that they don't have as many press credentials that they give out for the Marvel panel at Hall Hage.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So what we have to do is we have to get passes to something that comes before then. Right. And then before they kick the press people out, we have to go find general emissions. it's almost 7,000 people in there. The seats are not together. People are sleeping in there.
Starting point is 00:13:17 My motherfuckers have been waiting for 30 hours, 48 hours. It did smell crazy. There's a piss and shit line where they're yelling at you. One or two. I'm like, is this prison? Go to use the bathroom. And they say it's number one or number two. There's a line for number two.
Starting point is 00:13:30 There's a line for number one. There's a humanity that exists inside of Hall H. It's called Humanity Hall to me. There's a humanity that exists that I'm not sure. that next year when I'll be 47 years old that I'm going to want to wait all day
Starting point is 00:13:48 walk around trying to find a goddamn seat and then sit for four hours to wait for the Marvel panel and I will say this it will increase our chances I do feel like the people who get press credentials
Starting point is 00:14:00 dog they sign the like the deal with the devil they're like hey yo you ride it with Marvel if we see you say any shit against Marvel we come into your house and we're killing your family. Right. So what we're going to work on is having a better relationship
Starting point is 00:14:17 so we can get a better panel situation. Right, right. Maybe. Charles doesn't care. But the way that we did is two boots on the ground. That's all you need. That's a young man's game. I'm out of it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But we did it though. We did it as a family. And it felt so good when we did it. And it was phenomenal. Shout out to Jess. Yeah. Jess was holding it down. If you were looking for somebody
Starting point is 00:14:39 to ride through Hall H with you, Jess is the one. Just really is. Outside, inside. Shout out to Jess. But we bonded, man. We bonded. We went to the blurred and boogie party.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yes. Shout out to the blurred and boogie party. Fantastic time. Jomi was in there. I was in there. Charles was in there. We were all in there together. Blurred and boogie dancing with the rest of the blurts.
Starting point is 00:15:00 My nigger that's the black Power Ranger was going crazy. What a time. This brother is ageless. He did a man. No, he really does. He didn't. He didn't. Walter Jones?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah, Walter Emmanuel Jones. Walter Emmanuel Jones is ageless. Walter Emmanuel Jones was in there. Like, he could basically still do the karate to the body roll. That is at the thing. He was going crazy. He was dancing with different beautiful women doing different dance moves. He was spry.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It actually gave me hope, man. If you see Walter Emmanuel Jones, aka the Black Power Ranger anywhere, put some music on and get it set off. That man was the life of the party. Well, I can't be. If there's anywhere where I feel like the Black Power Ranger could get his shit off, it is a party called Blurter Bougy. He's like, this is got home.
Starting point is 00:15:47 This is like, his home game. Like, come on, bro. But, like, I love, the vibes were high in the party. Yeah. It was like our little piece of Comic Con. It was a real cool event to be at. Shout out to the Blurred and Boogie Party. Shout out to the Blurton Boogie Party.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I was looking around and I'm like, hmm, I see certain colors. That was a whole table. Yeah. What you mean, like white people sticking together at Blurbs? I mean, it's gonna happen. Wasn't me? It's a black party. Soups was there.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Shoups was at the Blurred Bluja party. And then after, everybody hit the town. Oh, yeah. And the Midnight Boys took over. What was that spot? It was a great bar. I couldn't tell you to me. It was not a great bar.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It was a fucking hell on earth. Oh, you didn't like it? No. If I had a great time, it was a great bar that we went to. That's like a bar I would go to in like high school college. Charles, it was very. difficult to tell, bro. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Charles went out to the dance floor. When Charles, when Charles sees a lady that he likes on the dance floor, he's so great. He's slightly leans back. I don't know why, because Charles is like up. He's regularly, he's dancing. And then he sees a lady that he likes and he goes. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But you're underselling it, though. We got it on video. Yeah, yeah. We walked in. Not even, we're at the bar. We're trying to get everybody drinks. We've been inside for like five minutes. We couldn't have been inside from other five minutes.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Turn around. Where's Charles? You're on the dance for dancing with some pretty lady. Hey, D. Took a second. Not dancing with her. Charles scooped that. And let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I'll respect it. Because he went on there. He knew it was actually like watching some National Geographic show. Yeah, yeah. Because this is great thing. This is like a Richard Attenborough. I could like narrate it. Charles knew who he was on the dance for to dance with.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He wasn't over. eager in any way, shape, or form. He danced by himself for a second. He let his aura over the dance floor until she turned around. He let her make the decision. She turned around. All of a sudden, you look, she looks back, and Kalika goes, got her. She turned around.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And then this is the best part. So they're dancing in the middle of the thing. This is a beautiful girl. This is a very pretty girl. Yes. So, like, they're dancing in the middle. little little thing together and then all of a sudden, I look, I turn back and I look, they're not on the dance floor anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:15 They are on the dance floor. They've moved to the side of the dance floor so they can have their own party. That's how you know you in the building. Locked in. And then how did that end? Locked in. I'm from New York, dog. Like, what are we going to do?
Starting point is 00:18:30 That's what you're going to do is do your thing. That's what you're going to do. Then Steve, Kalika loves drunk Steve. Drunk Steve is amazing. Drunk Steve's different. Steve knew all of the words to every song. All the ones I could say. Niggas was flying.
Starting point is 00:18:45 You said it. No, I wasn't. I'll be honest. Once YG came on and Steve was God. I was like, I'm like, how you know this? These records will come on. I'd be like, Steve, how you know this record, bro? It's like I'm like the Manchurian candidate.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I'm just activated when it comes on. And so, and then Jomi the drink buyer came out as well. Yeah. Jomey was going from. place to place around the bar talking to different full groups of women. Oh, I know. Like, not, no, Joe, wait. He's like, he's like, it's a birthday.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I'm like, Johnny's like, hey, hey, it's a bachelor's party. Jomey's what you call a volume shooter. I'm like, Johnny, I would slow down. He's like, no, it's bachelor party. I'm buying a drink for all over. If he leaves the bachelor party, he's at the bar to get the drinks for the bachelor party. He meets another group of girls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And then all of a sudden, I'll look over and all of a sudden, I see Johnny go. Yeah, yeah. Swarm the jets. I was being nice. You see over there, you see the lady, she got the veil on. You're like, oh, you celebrate bachelor's party. John, you're sick man, dog. I'm just like, what else am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:19:47 You know what I'm saying? Treat them to a nice night out. I just have to say, dog, Kalika is the funniest person to go out with. Oh, she hates more than Charles ever could. Oh, she'd be looking at some of the women like. She's a mama. She's a mama hen when it comes to you guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 She's a mama hen. When it comes to you guys, she's like, look, stay away from the dangerous. Then as we stayed in there longer, you know, it started to change a little bit. Number one, Uncle Vans' feet started to hurt. It was time to go. Yeah. We never got a chance to get dinner that night, though. We never got a chance to-we-not.
Starting point is 00:20:21 We didn't have time. We just came straight from Hall-A. We went to anime, which was this restaurant that Alaya suggested, which was absolutely delicious. Amazing. Did it change your mind on Asian food? You know, maybe, but it really didn't feel Asian. I'm going to be honest with you. There's a lot of staple foods.
Starting point is 00:20:36 like this fucking steak and goddamn. You like the pork though, right? It was okay. The pork d'all is good. It was okay. It was like there was a lot of, it was Asian food, no doubt about it. But it didn't feel like, felt like very Americanized Asian food. You liked the pig ear. Pig ear was good.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Nick, I'm from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Like fucking pig feet. Yeah. All of that. I haven't eaten those parts of the hog in a long time. I used to eat the whole fucking hog. Chitlins. You ever had hogs head cheese?
Starting point is 00:21:04 No, but I've seen that. Get to how you drag your. Y'all niggins never ate no hogs' head cheese. No. Hey, anybody in the back? Have y'all ever had hogs' head cheese before? No. My dad used to take some crackers.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Hogshead cheese comes in like a block. Oh, my God. My dad used to take a block of hog's head cheese and take some crackers and just put the, hogs head cheese on the cracker and just like eat the fucking shit what is it made of dog i actually let's let's look it up hogs head cheese hogs head head was this shit they was talking about with texas chain massacre cheese texas chancel massacre let's look it up right now hogs head cheese we'll get we'll get the house of the dragon we'll we'll start it but right now jumb you look at what is it
Starting point is 00:22:01 made out of hogs head cheese is made out of uh i used to think it was made out of the head of the hogs it's a jellied loaf made of the meat skin and other parts of the pig's head that are boiled until tender chopped seasoned and then set in their own gelatin gelatinous broth that sounds delicious I mean is this what it looks like it's hogshead cheese bro ew this is this one it looks like it's hogshead cheese man is it is it this oh god damn it bro's hogshead cheese man it's fucking this looks vile this looks viz My dad used to, my dad used to take some crackers, and he would, like, eat it on a dare almost to you. God rest my father's soul. Oh, they got hogshead cheese and heaven. He used to take the crackers, and he would just peel off the parts of the hogs. Stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Trash, it looked terrible. And then it would be, the hogshead cheese would jump to other food that would be in the refrigerator. It would affect other food. Oh, I hate that. Like, you could smell it? It would be like, now you got hogshead orange juice. Oh. If you got some apples or shit
Starting point is 00:23:09 You got hogshead apples I'd be like but it would be in there And my mom would just be like Terry would you please put the Hogshead cheese In a zip lock bag or something And he would just laugh He would just be open
Starting point is 00:23:21 Nah there's a season up to refrigerator A little bit season up the fridge With some awesome cheese It's disgusting anyway But can we please get to House of the Dragon I apologize I'm sorry sorry Great time of go on
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Starting point is 00:23:48 Odysseus. Yeah, a long, long journey home. On Friday, Buttonmash reacts to the new fighting game, Marvel Tokon? Steve? Yes, Marvel Tokun. It's... What's that you say? Oh, you hit that shit. Token? Tocoon. Tokoon. Yeah, it's basically like the new Marvel versus Capcom, but it's all Marvel. It's all Marvel.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. Okay, well, I mean, that makes a lot of sense because in Marvel versus Capcom, too, all the greatest characters were Marvel. Oh, yeah. Rosser's good, too. There was no good Capcom characters that you could really use at a high level. Really? All the top tier characters in the game, maybe if you did like the Strider Doom Trap, but you still need your doom to do them to do that. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:27 All the top tier characters in the game was Cable, Storm, Sentinel, Magneto, Silo, Scylock. All of those characters were Marvel characters. The Capcom characters didn't bring very much to take. table. You can maybe use strata if you're doing a strata, doom trap like I said, but most of the time it's going to be a Marvel character. So maybe you don't need the Capcoma characters. You're fucking using a coolman. No, you'll like it. It's good. Programming reminders is over. Today on The Midnight Boys, we're giving you our instant reactions to the latest episode of another classic part of the House of the Dragon takeover. I'm so into this show. I can't fucking believe how into this show I am. I love this fucking show. This is the show. This is one of these shows. It's definitely one of the shows Of all time Yeah, this is the show
Starting point is 00:25:11 All right, man It's one of these shows We're gonna, we're going to spoil A lot of parts of this Maybe even some stuff from the books We're not going to spoil anything That moves ahead in the books But if you haven't read anything
Starting point is 00:25:20 We're gonna spoil it Steve, spoiler warning We're getting ready to talk about How's at the Dragon You're listening To a reaction podcast The spoilers are coming Okay, to begin our reactions. Okay, to begin our reactions.
Starting point is 00:25:39 have to bring you the Midnight Manifest, which puts you in the know. Chuck, take it away. All right, these your Midnight Manifest for episode seven of House of the Dragon season three, directed by Nina Lopez Corrado, written by Philippa Guzzlet and Zenzel Price. Renier goes apeshit on Helena trying to get her sister to fork over some details about the future using her dreamer powers. Eventually, the queen finds out Damon didn't kill Sheep Steelers' writer and instead was lying to protect Raina.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Syrac's caraxies and C-Smoke jumps Sheep Steeler and take Raina back to Kingsland. These events drive a wedge through Damon and Rainier's relationship with the queen seeking political and amorous counsel from Masaria. Meanwhile, Amon is in Hale and Hell as both Alice and the newly arrived Allison use his edipus complex to try and sway the prince to their side. Amon kills the assassin that Reneer sent to kill him, lightly imprisons his mother and admits to Allison that he tried to kill his brother on purpose. This ends in Allison trying to poison her own son-spiced wine. Fortunately, Agon gets a small win when zombie sunfire returns to him. burns the forces that are trying to take him back to King's Landing, and Ormond solidifies his side of the impending battle
Starting point is 00:26:45 by sending Corliss his finger back to the blacks, while flipping Ulf to his side. That has been your midnight manifest for House of the Dragon, throwing it back to you, Van. What did you think of this up, sir? Fantastic. A lot of things... Really?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I loved it. I liked it. I'm in. I'm all the way in. I think a lot of things in this episode came to a hit. Obviously, you had the Damon situation, sheep's stealer dragon battle. you had Allison and Heron Hall
Starting point is 00:27:11 a lot of that stuff disgusting, we'll get to it and then you just had a lot of things with Rainera just being made truthful like the actual status of her rule is becoming evident to her
Starting point is 00:27:27 and that is interesting when you start to look at the way this season was set up it was kind of a season where everyone had these thoughts and these thoughts weren't real or accurate They were living in a fantasy world. They didn't know all of the information. I think this episode is an episode that gets you to characters actually understanding
Starting point is 00:27:46 what the reality of their situation is. And you can see the narrative payoff and how much you're invested into each character kind of facing their truth. What about you? I like these characters and I like the situations they're in. This to me, as the season has gone on, has felt like just a lot of shit is happening. in terms of perfect example.
Starting point is 00:28:12 We were kind of making the joke. All right, you have this bargaining chip with Allison. Reneer does. You send her off with this assassination plot. And throughout the episode, Rainier is like, what's happening with Arenner? What's happening with Arescent?
Starting point is 00:28:27 And Amos just goes, all right, you're my prisoner now. And it just happened so fast in matter of fact. You know, I do get the point of this show is that like no one is really, fit to rule and you're kind of dealing with idiots. But there were a lot of moments in this
Starting point is 00:28:42 episode where I was like, is this really how it's gonna happen? Even like, Aben makes a joke at one point. You're like, yeah, my mom makes a lot of fucking plans. Like, that shit don't be working out. And I'm like, hey, at least you're saying it. So I just, it's not that this episode was bad. I've just, you can see a lot of the stitching.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You can see a lot of them just trying to get shit to happen. So we can get, even like the old thing, we had known that Oth was going to flip sides, but what, Oof doesn't show up until like the end of the episode and it's act, it's kind of like, oh, here's the big reveal. He's finally flip side to Oremant. I was like, I wanted a couple more scenes of just like, all right, how did he meet Oormon?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, how long have they been working together? That I was, some of it felt a little rushed. Boy about you guys? I mean, I like the episode. I think there, I do have a question about the Orman thing. in terms of he has been very like one of the first things we learn about him
Starting point is 00:29:40 is that he hates the dragons dragons are gross dragons smelly we don't need dragons to rule and yet he's like I got a chip and we think the chip is corallus but no the chip is actually off
Starting point is 00:29:54 and he's meeting up with him I guess every couple nights and they're drinking beers and he's like hey man you know you want a whatever that castle that's a future castle you don't want that one Honey hole.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Honeyhole. You want a honey hole, don't you, honey hole? Get your drift mark. He's like, oh, that could be something. I'm like, he seems like a character, Ormond, seems like a character of principle and purpose. Somebody's always going to stand by his beliefs and be like, no, I'm not going to do it this way. We got to do it all way because the high-tile way is the best way is the only way. But he's also like, no dragons.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Hey, man, we got to, I got to get it. I got to get some dragons. So it's a little weird. I don't, like, I didn't hate the episode, but I don't know, I didn't hate the episode. I was just like, oh, we are, we have one episode left. And sometimes I'm like, the best, the best penultimate episodes to me are what the entire season has been leading towards. They're usually the big episodes. They have so much dramatic weight.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And it seemed like this penultimate episode didn't. It was almost like setting up the chess pieces for everything to blow up. I think there were a couple of, not resolutions, but I think a good, like, mini character arcs that were, like realized or at least some very good moments. I think Agon's final stand was very interesting for him because everything that was like downtrodden and him borderline accepting
Starting point is 00:31:13 his fate to be basically snuffed out and then proving himself to be worthy of like at least his own pride to like stand up against all of those things that he was worthy against and then dismissing Laris only to
Starting point is 00:31:29 have his dragon fully alive and then killing everyone to kind of recede back into his old self. I thought that was a very interesting and tragic way to end his story for this episode. I'm going to come back to Orman real quick, because it's interesting what you said about Orman, you said he seems to be a character of belief and principles. That's interesting, because he's actually, in my opinion, only a character of one of those things.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He's a character of belief, but of no principle. And so, like, sometimes people think that belief is a principle, but what normally separates people is not belief but principle. So if you take Professor X and Magneto, their beliefs are not that much different in terms of they believe in the safety of mutankind.
Starting point is 00:32:21 The principle is pretty different. One believes in the safety of mutine kind in mutant supremacy. The other one begins in the safety of mutine kind coexisting with like the same people. That's not exactly like what I'm trying to say. But like a lot of people have the same beliefs. Their principles are what separate their tactics
Starting point is 00:32:41 and getting to those beliefs. So Ormond's belief to me is that you don't need dragons. You dragons shouldn't, not that you don't need dragons, but that dragons don't qualify you to rule. that what qualifies you to rule is the lineage of men and your bloodline of being a high tower and the fact that you are a man,
Starting point is 00:33:07 he believes that men are greater than dragons and that dragons are almost cheating. But there's nothing that would stop him from using them to like undergird everything that he wants to do. He doesn't have any principles, so he will do anything. His belief is so strong in everything that he's saying,
Starting point is 00:33:26 that is genuine. also his religious belief too. Like that is genuine, but he has no principle. So that is kind of the reason why he kind of is underhanded and double dealing and he doesn't stand
Starting point is 00:33:42 for anything, but he has a deep, deep belief that his family and his line is better than everyone else and that they are fit to rule. Orban kind of remind he has like that Odysseus quality where he is like a modern man
Starting point is 00:33:56 stuck in ancient times where the Targaryens part of their rule isn't just that they have dragons it is Damon's belief that these dragons make us gods these dragons make us better than everyone else
Starting point is 00:34:13 this power we were all of these and even Ranira buys into it all of these prophecies when she's talking to Helena she's just like no no the gods want this of course they want this and I think Ormin is a character and this is why I love him so much, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:34:29 he's like, no. These are just, these are crazy people with magical creatures. Yeah. They are not better than us. Right. But the thing that blinds him is he thinks that the high towers, his belief in the high towers is his supremacy. That's like, no, our family should rule.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Right. Because we're the high towers. Fuck them. And I was just like, that to me is what makes him interesting. It's not that he's above using dragons. It's like, hey, yo, if the warfare says we need dragons, I'll use dragons. But like, I'm looking at them as beasts and weapons.
Starting point is 00:34:56 that's all they are. Right, because all the principle is really a boundary, right? And he hasn't shown that he has any of those. He'll do whatever he has to do. But what I do believe about the character is that his belief in his family and where his family should be
Starting point is 00:35:11 and all of that stuff, that is sincere. Yeah. And I think that's also something else that's happening in the show overall is a lot of people thinking a lot of things that aren't true. And that, like, that is really the crux of this entire Civil War
Starting point is 00:35:26 is no one having a handle on the actual truth, which is a difference between, like everybody else in the original Game of Thrones had claims that they knew were flimsy. Yeah. And it was about might. Now, everyone thinks that what they're saying and doing is real. Everyone actually thinks they have an actual claim to it.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And that's dangerous. And that's dangerous because no one is actually, actually, you know, operating. in anything that's real. And then it comes back to, is any of this really real? It's all bullshit anyway, right? The people don't get a say. They're suffering for all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So lines and blood and all of these shit, it's kind of all made up. So it's a struggle for who's going to make up the next portion of it. I mean, it's, and the thing that I find fascinating, because, like, this is what happens in Civil War, where it's like, the thing that you are fighting for during the war, once you get installed in a leadership position like Renera,
Starting point is 00:36:24 the small folk, the common folk, don't give a fuck about what you were quote unquote fighting for. They're wondering like, okay, we need gold, we need food, we need bread, we need all of these things here. And it's so funny where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:38 oh, Reneira was a great, I want to say great, but she was better at fighting a civil war than she's been as a ruler. Of course, for sure. That's easy, though. I feel like a lot of stuff that we've been like projecting
Starting point is 00:36:51 about Rineera or like, I'm at like thinking like, where is she going to end? up near the end of the season we see in this episode right one of the first scenes with helena she's like the gods want me to rule right like that's her sister you know she's been kind she's been kinder to her than pretty much like everybody else in that uh high tower targaryian family and in that moment she kind of loses it not even a little bit a lot she's grabbing her she's like yo what did they tell about me tumbledon uh damon where is her like she kind of loses it for a second
Starting point is 00:37:21 with the person she's been the kindest to in like as her sister. And then later in the meeting with the council meeting when Tormanedly's like, hey man, kind of feel like you set me up. She's like, exactly. What next?
Starting point is 00:37:35 And you're just like, yo, Rayneira, man. What happened? So like, even if her words were just like, you know, bombs to keep people alleviated so like nobody would be upset. This point, that, that veneer is gone now. That part of her is out of there. She's at this point like, yo, man, I just got to get stuff done.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I need to be able to rule what's this. And then you have the Rainer stuff. Don Rainer, sorry, Raina stuff that happens later. And she's just kind of like, it's kind of falling apart for her. I understand Reniro more than I've understood any monarch, any house lord or lady in the history of Game of Thrones. Why? Because a lot of times when you meet them or when you have met them, they've been fully formed. Maybe with the, maybe with the, maybe Danny, I understood as much because you're with, you were with Danny every single step of the way, right?
Starting point is 00:38:27 But even like when you first meet Danny, she has all of these ideas of what it is to be a Targary and that we're really putting her head by her brother and other people to where she still learns kind of on the fly about even what she means in this world. It's all like Lord. Reneira, you get to see how the kingdom actually works through her inability to rise to the occasion of being a monarch. She can't be good enough. She can't be bad enough. She can't be powerful enough. She can't be powerful enough.
Starting point is 00:39:03 She can't be anything enough to be this. It's driving her crazy. And so by the time you get to the end of this, she's talking about all the things she's trying to do without doing anything. And you think about other kings, not just in this. Like a king really only needs to do like one thing well. Some kings are good at warfare.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Some kings are beloved. Some kings, but very few monarchs period are good at all of the things. And she's trying to be all of that and she's not succeeded in anything. I mean, even the scene at the end where her and Masari asleep together, it's this scene where, and it's been happening with Renair throughout the season, where she wants someone to tell her. that not only was this worth it, but like this is my birthright,
Starting point is 00:39:45 you're doing a good job, this was meant for you. She wants the thing that I'm like, you're never going to get. That is a very, like, we still deal with it with celebrities. There's that video going around of like Elon Musk with the reporter.
Starting point is 00:39:57 They hate you. And you can see it his face. It is a very celebrity thing. It was like, oh, you can't buy the one thing that you want, which is people's love and respect and adoration. That's something you have to earn. Like, good leaders in this world,
Starting point is 00:40:11 we judge you by how well you're leading, not it was your destiny or it was the prophecy that you should be here. Who gives a fuck about that? And the process doesn't matter. Yeah, right. Like, it really doesn't matter what you had to sacrifice or what you had to change. Like, that just doesn't put stakes in the refrigerator. So, like, for her, she wants to do things, but she also wants to be seen as a good person.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yep. And that's just... During a war? During a civil war, where she usurp. But also, there's still an intense privilege there. Yeah. Like an intense privilege to where she believes that she is anointed and placed and that light has shown upon her.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And it's with every single scene in the show, she moves further or further away from this. To the way at the end of it, she just wants something to make her feel good like Hallie Berry Monsters Ball or Riverdown. Never forget it. Yes. But, but yeah. So I think that, I think seeing Coral,
Starting point is 00:41:11 Corlis again. My man lost his finger. Tough. Tough. Tough. No, but I was, I respect Corlis. He was sitting here like, hey, yo. Put me in myself. He wasn't going outside. I'm not drinking. I'm not drinking in a while. That was so funny. He's like, nah, I'm good. And then, you know, it's just everybody.
Starting point is 00:41:29 This was kind of the episode of Rood Awakening, Steve. Do you think that that's, that that reflection of the affirmation that Reneera is looking for is also kind of like a reverse image of Aymond at Heron Hall with his Oedipus Complex and with the witch that's occupying it because I know that a bit of the
Starting point is 00:41:50 Cryptonite of the show has been the slowness of the things that happen at Heron Hall but as a mirror to what Reneer is looking for with the affirmations that he's like good or like needs to lay in weight or has a plan that is scheming I think that that's an interesting
Starting point is 00:42:06 part of it but I still think that that's a bit more of a like the weaker part of this episode in this show. Yeah, I think the Heron Hall stuff, Heron Hall is just like a, not an awesome place to be. Everybody goes crazy. Everybody sucks. Which is, like, weird, random violence happens.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It doesn't really seem to ever have like a clear, what is like Heron Hall other than this kind of vortex that exists there where bad shit happens. Why would you want it? Why would you want it? It's so cursed. But it was interesting to me that he, even more than Damon, feels like he's surrendered to Heron Hall.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Yeah. Like that Heron Hall is an entity to where at one point he's talking, he's like, you know, we'll start our own thing. Like right here. Like everything else that was happening before, maybe that's not even for me. Like, we'll start our own thing right here and we will grow it to be something bigger and different
Starting point is 00:43:00 than everything that they're fighting over up there, which tells me that, like, he has given in to the dankness, the hopelessness, the weird mysticism of it he's almost surrendered to it perhaps
Starting point is 00:43:16 one of the worst I almost turned my TV off when Allison came in the first time and you thought was asking no no no I knew that wasn't Allison right
Starting point is 00:43:26 because Allison do not like that man like that she do not like her son for real right I mean she tried to kill him at the end right but the scene where they're making like and then he's grossed out by the fact that it's not his mom I'm like all right That's wild.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I actually fast-forwarded through it. I can't do this. It's gross. You guys, it's gross. You know, I'll say this. Game of Thrones, my incest journey with you is finished. It's done. My watch is over.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So any scenes that involve any type of incest at this point, I don't care if it's You're fast-forwarding? The incest that we accept. Because we accept some incest, right? Brother, sister. This is that. This is the limit of that I said. Are we ranking which incest are Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah, let's right. Easily. Let's go. Let's go. Because like, Alex said, you're talking about worst, worst? Worst? So, like, the incest between, so Alan and what's your name? And, uh, Bayla.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Bella. Alan and Bella, their cousins. Cousins. But like, Uncle needs someone. Third removed something. Cousins. Because the, the, uh. Are they cousins?
Starting point is 00:44:30 Well, her grandfather is his dad. Yeah. Is this snake. Her grandfather is Alan's dad. Yeah. Okay. So that makes what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:38 uncle, right? Is that a grand, that's an uncle? No, because if Corlis, Alan and Adam, then that's her grandfather, that would be an uncle. Yeah, that's an uncle. So that's an uncle. So that's an uncle, but it's a great uncle, right? It's a great uncle. I don't think so. Hold on, wait a second. No, it's not a great uncle. If my grandma,
Starting point is 00:44:58 your grandfather's son. My grandfather, if my grandmother, the son of my grandmother's, my uncle. But to be fair To be fair That's also Raneiro's husband Like that's her uncle too Hey fuck you guys They're listening and judging us
Starting point is 00:45:16 And I know Alia's back there laughing And stuff like that Alia never Half uncle and niece and cousins Right great So they're all that All that Okay so we're half uncle
Starting point is 00:45:25 And niece and cousins right Yeah So that's too much in the soup That's a lot in the soup That's a hogged cheese Of That's a lot in the soup If we're waking incest
Starting point is 00:45:34 Half uncle niece, whatever, let alone on the list. On the list. Right. Fucking. Damon and Reneera. Nees, niece, uh, niece uncle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:44 That's actually the same thing. We don't have any trouble understanding. That is basically the same thing is the brother of. Yeah. No, because. Their dad's brother. Yeah. But this is different because it's the grandfather's.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah. So it's, like, it's. I think the two that we. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I can't be this stupid. I apologize to the audience.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So. break it down Damon is the uncle Rehnira is his niece Yes Yes Damon but Damon is Her father's brother
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah Uncle Straight up uncle Straight up uncle Straight uncle Straight uncle Straight uncle Okay
Starting point is 00:46:22 But you have to think Bayla is his kid But Grant Okay So Bayla Bayla is Damon's child Right
Starting point is 00:46:32 Bail is Damon's child Yes And then Bela is... So Adam and Allen would be the great uncle because they are the sons of... The grandfather. Yes, right. Okay, now, before we move on,
Starting point is 00:46:47 because it comes through the mom there, yeah, okay, that's it. Yeah. All right, so it's different, but it's the same. Right. Yes. Well, there's a generation removed. There's a generation removed.
Starting point is 00:46:57 So he's a great uncle, is what I said before. I don't understand any of this stuff, by the way. Yeah, right. None of this is good. But that, though, is different still. I'm trying to give some, shoot some bad things. So here's what I'll say. Brother and sister is nasty.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Agon, Helena, Nask. Nothing is, okay, so these are the limits of, these are the levels of nasty to me. The first level of nasty, I'm sorry. Mom, mom, son, that's rough. Father, daughter. That's nasty. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I'm out. That's first degree nasty. Yeah. That's number one. Second degree nasty. Second overall. Second overall. Siblings.
Starting point is 00:47:33 That's second degree. Especially if you grew up. It's nasty no matter what. But if you grew up with these people, I don't like that. I don't like it. I'm with him. A hell of a caveat.
Starting point is 00:47:42 No, no, no. You grew bad, but if it's all bad. If you grew up calling the same people mom and dad, it's over, I want to see it. So if it's a long loss situation, then it's not as nasty. Hey, it happens in the world where people didn't realize. Oh, no, that's your brother. Sons of bitches. Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:47:57 All right. So what's third degree? Third degree would be Alan and, and. Yeah. Alan and Bailey. Alan and Bela I mean that's the same thing I would say third degree
Starting point is 00:48:06 would be Rainer and Damon because they'd been knew when they was related Nah That's third degree That's third degree That's third degree
Starting point is 00:48:15 Alan not even In the family For he just got But he still Seek's son He's the same thing But like Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:21 But they didn't grow up together You know what I'm saying Damon Damon saw Supergirl Like we He was with Matt Yeah He was with Matt
Starting point is 00:48:28 Nassie So let me ask you this All we then saying that we're given a pass to Allen and Bailey. This is not for me to decide. Do they get a pass? Why not?
Starting point is 00:48:43 You can decide. If I'm going to be honest. No, no, no, no. There's nothing to do it black. We are, we are letting this last show where we're like, is this inclusion?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Our 2026 brains cloud our judgment. We too woke. You know what I'm saying? We are too woke for this. Like with Adam Allen and Bella, I wouldn't do these now, but if I was back then I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:49:02 okay, I can see it. Tough. Hey, hey, if I'm coming from the mud, nothing, I see, like, a cute, a cute young sister got the name. Like, we can inherit, like, drift marked in it. Like, come on. But she's your niece. We didn't grow up together.
Starting point is 00:49:18 This, this caveat is very concerning. We did not grow up. This is a concerning. She is your dad's great niece. Grand. But you have to think about the tiers we just listed, right? It's on the bottom tier. On the out.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It's on the out. It's not. It's still insensitive. What's on the outskirts? It's the manslaughter of incense. Yeah. Right. For being real, though, you've got to think about this as well.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Like, back in this time, they didn't have any, like, DNA testing. So, like, you might be fucking a common folk that might be your cousin. You don't know. That could because a lot of these people have, like, you know, some kings have, like, a hundred bastards. Yeah. So you never know. However, that's not what we're talking about. That's a nice little kind of little.
Starting point is 00:49:58 They're blameless in that. In that situation. But it is interesting. Okay. So if you had a fart, like, let's say. you were back then and you had a fine aunt that you didn't grow up with. But like what kind of aunt though?
Starting point is 00:50:10 So are you talking about an aunt? Like your sister's sister? Like my sister. Or you're your mom's sister? Nah, come on man. But like she's in another kingdom. She rolls up. Can't do it. She got a baddie on her.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Like there's no other women with fatties in Westrose that are related to me. She's the only woman with the fat butt. Come on, man. Yeah. But that's a lady. That she's a lady. She got, you know, some,
Starting point is 00:50:34 some riches. Why are you trying to sell him on this? If we're related, that means I'm going to think about it. Hey, man, I'm going to be real with you. I don't know what's going on this morning. I don't know if I didn't take the animal pack. But I still cannot rat. Because my mother's
Starting point is 00:50:49 My grandmother's You're a visual learner. He's a visual learner. He's got to see the chart. You got to see the chart. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. My grandmother's son. would be rest in peace my uncle David We got a green screen the math going through that.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So my grandmother's son would be my uncle David and uncle Hal. Yes. Right? But this is different though because, oh, I know what's fucking me up. It's not the same family. He has two families. Yeah, he's got two families.
Starting point is 00:51:24 That's what's fucking me up. What's fucking me up is this is because the white lady is his wife. Yes. And. And yes. Yes. So what's fucking me up is the two different.
Starting point is 00:51:34 That's what's fucking me up. It's the same thing, but it's a half. Like you guys said, okay. So that's what up. That shit happened a lot. Oh, yeah. It happened to the side. I got halfies all over.
Starting point is 00:51:44 The nigga, half he's all over. Like, Glenn Davis is like my half cousins. You know, you relate. The decision was like, you're related to this person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Okay, cool. So that's what's fucking me up to half because I'm trying to think, because that's very, because if not for the half, then that would also be very, very close and we'd be the same thing. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Okay. So, but we're giving them a pass. In the world, real world, no. In the world of Game of Thrones, wait, way, way back to you? It's nothing. It's like work. Yeah, it's like work. Let's stay on these incest niggas.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Now, wait, can we bring this back to the show real, real quick? That's what we're about to talk about. Adam Allen. That's what we're going to go. Oh, no, you got it? No, I was just like, because it was Bella and Allen, right? Yeah, that case, yes. And then she told Adam thinking like, hey, yo, you're older.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Oh, so you talk to him. He was like, oh, word. But you got to remember. I don't know if it was two episodes or one episode ago where he was like, yeah, man, like, it'd be cool, you know, to be out there with you. You got to rest, you know what I'm saying? You got to be out there. And then maybe we can, like, you know, hang out sometimes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I'm just saying, and she brushed that off. Then the next episode, she's in there with Allen, you know, they're having a good time. She's like, yo, I'm not, I'm here. It's been crazy. I might as well. It's a foul call. It's a yellow card on a play. For who?
Starting point is 00:53:03 For bailing? Oh, no. I don't think she's keeping it real. What's that? Because you know one of the brothers is super awkward. You know what I'm saying? So you know he did not tell his brother. Like, you got to hit him on the side.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Be like, hey, she got to keep it peace. She said, she got to keep it peace. I don't think, I don't know if she, I can't really put that jacket on her. Yeah. Because really, the moment that she had a chance to like talk about it. She was ready to talk about. Her face lit up. So he's told you.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And I'm like, oh, she's actually in. If we keeping it a bean, what? That's on Adam. I don't know if he, but who knows? Has anyone professed their love, though? Has he gone to his brother and been like, yo, like, I love her? And has Adam, has Alan gone to him and been like, yo, I love her? There's no shot out.
Starting point is 00:53:55 There's no way he did that. We know out. Come on, bro. But no, bro. I don't think that that's fair to like. Oh, no, no. It's not all on baila, if I'm being real too, like, Adam, come on. How does Adam know, Adam?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Adam doesn't know about his brother. Adam doesn't know about his brother. I don't think they know about each other, which is why when these niggas end up killing each other or something like that, it's going to be so tragic because this is all happening so organic. And it was tough to look at homie's face. For one second, he had it like, oh, shit, what the fuck is going on? And then boom, they get interrupted.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Tough. You hate to see it. Not for our black brothers, man. Yeah. It happens to all of us. That's what happened. You ever been with, you ever been trying to get with somebody? And she's like, yeah, man, you're talking, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And she's like, yeah, but your homie over there, though, and you're like, I got a worst situation. Oh, no. The worst situation is when you in a, you in a spot, right? Oh, this happened on a show that I love called Chris Cross. Okay. Do you guys. Do some Googling here?
Starting point is 00:54:59 You guys know the actor, the great Eugene Bird? You know who that is? Eugene Bird. Look him up. Look up Eugene Bird right now. Okay. Bird like a bird. B-Y-R-D.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Eugene Bird. Okay. Look him up. You're going to know his face when you see him. Okay. I got no second. I got no second. Eugene Bird.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Eugene Bird. Okay. So Eugene Bird, who played, I think he was Winkin'A-M-M-E-M-E. He played Winkin' 8-mile, right? Winkin 8 Mile. He was on this show, on showtime. Nobody remembers this show except for me called Chris Cross. And it was about a white boy and a black guy
Starting point is 00:55:37 that were in this English boarding school. Eugene was at the Blurton Boosie Party. I bring this up to Eugene whenever I see him, he's tired of me bringing it up. But at one part, they were best friends. But then one black girl came to the school. Now, Eugene's character never had no black girls around to really Mac on.
Starting point is 00:55:57 So he felt like that was his. He actually goes up to his homie because they get into it over the girl and he goes, yo man, you can't even understand this. We're soulmates. You wouldn't get that. And his white boy, whose homeboy goes, I never thought I'd hear you say anything like that.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I was like, oh, she's going crazy on Chris crying. What I'm saying is when you're in a situation where you're in an all-white space with your homeboy and one black chick walks in there and she's fine and everybody's like, I feel at home now, it makes it even worse when you brick. But that's what you related to. Yo, well, I mean, that is true, but you didn't know before, right?
Starting point is 00:56:38 And now it is what it is. Brother and y'all going over the same one. Because it's not like these guys are going to be able to, like, move on to, like, Reneira or somebody like that. Like, this is their shit. And what makes it even fun of here is to take it out. They were seeing, they were seeing Jace. They was like, pretty boy.
Starting point is 00:56:55 He got the fuck out of there. They were like, man, Bailer was. It's all ready to get rid of that. Jase is out of here. Now, guess what? Day nights. So they, is it a little, if Adam and Allen, I have to say, it is not the greatest that obviously she feel bad,
Starting point is 00:57:12 like she just lost J's. She lost all this. Rearer don't want her no way through. And they're doing the thing where it's like, you can cry my shoulder. Look, I don't know if she was ever really into that J shit. And so I think now. She was, though.
Starting point is 00:57:25 She was. No, she was. I mean, she dropped it. Pretty quick. He was the hair to the throat. He didn't give a fuck about no Jeter. Of course she was into Jays. She really is feeling Alan for real, though.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Yeah. She likes it for her face lit up. Now, this is another thing that has to happen. And, you know, we haven't been through this as the Midnight Boys, because y'all do a good job of compartmentalizing. If this was the real world, what I would, if this was me, let's say in this situation, like, I'm removed from it. Like, I'm on the outside looking at.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Me and Steve on the outside looking in, and this is a deal between y'all. What I would say to y'all is, I'd be like, man one of y'all gotta take the other one you know she hung up on the dragon and all of that shit like that scars on the face but really one of y'all if we going out one of y'all got to take one of y'all got to if you'd run into two man right running the two man right yeah somebody got to yeah you got to you got to know what the game is and by the way just to let the fellas know the fellas when y'all think like that a lot of times y'all have been that in the two man a lot of times I've
Starting point is 00:58:28 been in the situation, me personally, whereas me and Ian and Ian's and you got, and the girl's like, you know, you got to take van. So it goes both ways. It goes both ways. Here's the thing. Shit, I don't give a fuck. We all out drinking.
Starting point is 00:58:41 My man, hey, I don't know if they're so amazing. I'll take the whole part. Hey, y'all, you got, you got to. You got to be that guy. You got to set the screen. Yeah, come on, brother. Go do your thing. I'm with them for the whole night.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I've been a situation. I'll tell you a story. These girls end up crying to me. We end up bonding. to becoming friends because my man is out doing this thing. I'll tell you the story, man, real quick. It was me, Kerm, and one of Kerm's friends.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Oh, this is great. We're out at Zepiom one night. Zebulon one night. Right? Yeah, man. Was this the other, okay. No, this wasn't that night. It was, this was like a year ago or something like that.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And so what Kerm's, homie is talking to this girl and these group of girls, right? Chatted them up, like, ha ha, it's all great. Eventually they leave for a second. You're like, yo, who you feeling? He's like, the red head. That's the one I'm trying to get with. He was like, bet.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Kerm? No, no, no. His friend. Kerm's friend. I'm not going to name Kermm's friend. I don't know my death. It was not, Carlos. It was not Carlos.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Anyway. It's a joke. I love you, Carl's got a great hit of here. They come back, and me and Kerm start saying screens. We're talking under the other two girls. Hey, how y'all been? Where y'all from? Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:50 That me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slowly, but surely, you start like, you know, bumping out old girl. You know what I'm saying? out the homie, boxing them out. So they get the ISO. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:00 So just me and Kerm, you know, sitting screens doing the whole thing. Eventually, you know, he got the number. They have a good night together. Me and Kerm, again, no play. We were just out helping out the homie. Successful night. Yeah. That's what it means to be boys.
Starting point is 01:00:12 But it's so funny when you got a one-home girl who pissed off. She's like, we don't want to talk. Hey. They hate, you know what they ain't. Sometimes the defense is too hard that night. Defense is too strong that night. She's always the one who they, I was like, hey, you know. Is that's happened before.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It's happened before while I've been like, hey, guys, like, uh, hey, my, my, uh, the charm brick. The charm brick. Van Lathen is a charming man, but it's a charm break. She's not fucking with it. So you're, you're on your own right now. You're going to have to do some Kobe shit, which is score 81 against the whole thing. Why you like, because I'm telling you right now, it's, it's not working. I once had a girl look at me and just go, no.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Damn. And I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Me and her end up becoming friends. We got to become friends. I was like, oh, yeah, don't let me stay here and spend a bunch of time and do all that stuff like that. Save me a bunch of time. Save me a bunch of time.
Starting point is 01:01:05 But in this situation, they're going to have to, somebody is going to have to go and, you know, figure that situation. Make it happen the other way. Yeah, make it happen the other way. Because at the end, let's talk about that. So the sheepstiller thing blows up in a dragon battle. Nice. Back to the show. Loved it.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Sheepstiller flies off wounded. Dragon Battle, Ryder. Wait, why didn't they kill Sheepstiller? I was like, they didn't kill him. Sheepstler was limping off. No, no, I was saying,
Starting point is 01:01:33 why didn't it like Krakis and everybody be like, we got to kill Sheep Steeler? Like, we got to, like. Oh, why didn't they do? I think they try, I think sheepstil just, like, got away.
Starting point is 01:01:42 No, I think, well, I, I read that as, like, hesitance on Damon's part because he actually felt bad of taking away her dragon from her. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:01:51 So you felt like Damon spared sheepsteer. Yeah. I don't know. The way I read it was that sheepseller just was able to kind of, like, be wildly enough to kind of get away. Well, because he's knocked off of Krakis. And then there's, like, a little scuffle and he's, like, kind of barely watching. But then Krakseys clearly is, like, looking after Damon and protecting him.
Starting point is 01:02:12 But then he just watches sheepsteeler go off. Like, I think if he really cared, he'd have pursued sheepsteeler. I mean, he might have been able to pursue, but I think there was probably, like, a lot of other stuff happening right there. But to your point, I mean, maybe. I read it I mean, but also it was what was so interesting I'm like
Starting point is 01:02:28 that battle shows you because what is the name of Reneuras dragon? Syrax. Syrax, you're like Syrax was getting fucked I was like oh shit
Starting point is 01:02:38 when these dragons battle there is a calculation of like we might have to let sheepstealer like just I mean a completely size mismatch first and foremost
Starting point is 01:02:46 Syrax don't not big enough to hang with the big dogs like Karexies like sheepsteeler not even C-Smoke really so Syracs
Starting point is 01:02:54 Hey man, you got to know your role. This is not the time. This is not the place for you to be acting like this. Almost like, Veneer almost lost to Dragon off some nonsense. Yeah, stop bucking up and like getting out of, and like speaking out of the side of your neck and shit like that. Play a little dragon's role, nigga.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He played a little dude. I would say, though, man, like, I thought the fight was excellent. I loved it. Karaxes and Chief Silly got real beef, man. Oh, my God. Coraxi's, like, before the fight started all. Like, oh, like, hey, hey, hey, hey. I was like, sit down.
Starting point is 01:03:23 What you want? God, but also why did Damon, this is when I get a little bit like, all right, this is where the show can get dumb. When Damon gets off his dragon and starts walking the sheepstealer, his sheepstealer is about to like burn him to a crisp. I'm like, dog, dog, get the fuck back on the dragon. Why are you, like, why is anybody dismounting? They're all trying to like take Raina back. I was like, no, you mean like they shouldn't have had that meeting in the middle of a field talking to each other? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:52 What do you do with Raina? Raina was given, like, first of all, why hasn't Raina yet said, or maybe she will say, maybe we haven't gotten here yet, hey, I didn't kill Jace on purposely. I can't control sheepsealing. It seems as if that. Well, she told, I mean, she told him that. She was like, he doesn't listen to me. But at that point, I don't think, again, Ray. She's got fucking legitimately.
Starting point is 01:04:20 She's got cuts all over her face. that demonstrate that her dragon is too wild to be tamed and to obey. It seems as if, and this happens in the show sometimes, it seems as if maybe Renair would not listen to this. I don't think she wouldn't. Maybe she wouldn't. But it seems as if you could say, hey, by the way, there's actually no reason
Starting point is 01:04:42 for me to have killed your son on purpose. I was trying to help and the dragon won't listen to me. Maybe she doesn't want to say that because she doesn't want them to kill sheep steal it. Maybe that's a part of it. But it seems like at some point she would make that case. Maybe she'll make it next episode. Well, she wants to appeal to her
Starting point is 01:04:57 good graces by at least like avenging some of that and going off and killing. Yeah, she's trying. Either I kill Vagar and I make up for some of it or I die and I make up for all of it. Yeah. Bad math, but... I'm going to be real.
Starting point is 01:05:10 That's a suicide mission. Obviously. I'm like, what are you going to do against Vagar? Obviously. It's the most obvious thing in the world. Like, again, to talk about knowing your roles. You know, you've known this dragon for what? like two weeks.
Starting point is 01:05:22 He hasn't listened to you once. How about you listen to your dad who said, go off, stay hidden, don't worry about it, and let the big dogs handle business. But now you want to get involved. Now, not only you lose your dragon, you back at Kingsland and so far away from your dragon,
Starting point is 01:05:37 now everybody looking at you crazy. She's obviously dealing with some mental health issues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And shout out to Beela. Come to her side. Yeah. Beala comes to her side. Hey, you will be born.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Bayla says, oh, hey, you're good. Everything's cool. By the way, I know a really. nice guy. Hey, I got a two woman. I need your help. He's not as... You say Raina's going to set the screenwork? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:00 She's like, he don't look as good as the ball one. Let's be honest with him. Yeah, like, so, Alan, my... Hey, but your hair busted, hey. His hair, but, like, it's the whole not. That's, that's so sick. So... Wait, really quick, while we're on this.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Can we calculate who are the people that Renera needs to kill in that castle? Because it's, the list is getting very long. It's Helena and whether Helena's going to have a son or not. If she wants to talk this shit, she do got it probably off Raina. We will see. Like, Allison, she should have killed. Right. On the course, she should kill Damon.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like, I mean, literally, her problem is that, like, she's building a list of enemies faster than she's building a list of allies. Right. because things are so complicated and everybody has, no one is like doing anything for her. Because she's a weak monarch, and that's what happens in a weak monarchy.
Starting point is 01:07:01 In a weak monarchy, people act not in the interest of the crown, but in their own interests. Before we get away from the Damon thing quickly, I just want to shout out one quick thing. The show does a great job of characterizing Damon throughout the whole three seasons because the hardest thing that Damon has ever done
Starting point is 01:07:15 in the entire show over how many ever episodes the show's had. is saying, please, to the lady at the veil to save his daughter's life. He cannot physically, he's, like, it took him soul, he was like, but that's been the brilliance of this season. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:35 This season has weakened him. At first, he was this resolute head-chopping Targaryan badass. The show describes him before we even meet him as the most dangerous man in Westrose. And he maintained that. Like, think about the way the show built him up. He chops the head off, right? Boom.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You see that. Don't talk shit. One clean cut, you're done. Like, when Amon looks like he's about to buck up, all Damon has to do is present himself. And Amon, who is so foolhardy in his own belief would challenge anyone except for him. Just looks to the side, walks to the side.
Starting point is 01:08:18 The crab feeder stuff. All of that. All of that just as this and this season has cut him down to nothing. No one will really listen to him about what has to happen. He finally shows some vulnerability with his own seed, his own family. Yeah. All his friends get killed. He can't protect anyone.
Starting point is 01:08:39 He can't intimidate anyone. He can't put his thumb on a scale for what he wants. He didn't mean. He loses Renera by the end of this episode. Yep. But how do we feel about it? How do we feel about Masaria, though? Because I was like, I did feel sorry for her
Starting point is 01:08:52 because her home girl was just like, they're never going to look at you as anymore. They're just like a whore. And then it's almost like Masaria is just like, damn, she's right. My claim to power in this situation with Renera is essentially using almost Renera's just deep, deep insecurity about herself
Starting point is 01:09:17 and being like, if I show her a little love, if I give her a little affection, she'll keep me around and she'll listen to me. Because I think she was trying it the other way and it was getting too complicated. She held a couple. Everybody's giving her a different input on how she should do what she does, right?
Starting point is 01:09:31 She just, hey, keep some secrets for yourself. She does that. And then you get to a moment to where that almost blows up in her face. The only thing she's sure of is this. I will say, though. Renair kind of guy kicked off with her a little bit. You know, it was kind of like she came on to me. Just to let you know.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Wait, way back in the day? No, I'm talking about when they were in the room. She was the one that was kind of looking at the midsection. Like, what's going on? She kind of kicked it off. Well, no, she walked up and presented. I don't know if you can call it. You guys are talking about presenting.
Starting point is 01:10:07 It's so weird you guys' relationship with that. Who said presenting? He said presenting it. He said presenting. That's crazy. presenting it is crazy. I can tell what kind of niggas Steve. Steve just opens the towel.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Okay. Got the trench code. Hey. Stop. Hey. Hey. No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Nickname. Steve, the presenter, Allman. Stop with that. Steve just presents it. Like, hey, what you're going to do? Okay. You're not into it. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Let's play some video games. Let's play Super Smash Bros. Brother's melee. Hey. But, but, but, yeah. So, you know, everybody's kind of falling back. falling back into like, to, to, to, but Marcia, because I do feel, I think Missaria, what she also
Starting point is 01:10:49 realize is like, oh, for me to maneuver through Kings Landing right now, the reality of situation is it's not actually getting better. Right. I think she realized with Renair, like, this is a weak monarch. Like, to protect myself, I do have to start being like, can't think of really like the common folk. I can't really try to be making King's Landing better.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I just kind of have to protect my neck and make sure that like for as long, I can ride this out for as long as possible. Because I think she might, I'm sorry, might be seeing like, this ain't getting better. No, it's not. The homies had her straight.
Starting point is 01:11:28 She thought she could, yeah, you know, I'm living like this, man. It's nice in the castle. It's like, you know, like, we don't really messing with y'all in here, bro. Like, this, all this. That's the worst conversation to have with the homie who comes up on some bread.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Like, it's like, Look at all this. Look at all my friends. And you like. Tough. No fake. All right. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Right. Yeah. Anything we leave out? Oh. You guys, you guys, specifically you two and Chris Ryan over on Talk to Thrones talk about how much you love the Greens. And I'm a green hater. But I thought I finally understood your point into like the drama between them is so much more like it's human.
Starting point is 01:12:09 We get that in the scene with. Alice of Allison and Amon in the castle with Amon's in the middle, he's got Allison to his right and Alice to his left. And they're having a family argument where he's like, yeah, man, me and my girl, you know, we're trying to figure something out. And the mom's like, nah, we're not really trying to do that. And then, like, it's like a push and pull between the mom and the wife, per se. And then the scene, the next scene is how it's been like,
Starting point is 01:12:37 yo, man, your mom tripping, bro. Come on. Yeah. Your mom tripping, man. He's supposed to be us. He's surrounded by two milts. He's overloaded. He doesn't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And he tried to reach for both. Completely lost it. I'm like, oh, now I see what you guys are saying. The Greens have been like, they're not been uninteresting to me, but that was like, that's the most human thing I've ever seen. Was Alice tripping by using the witchcraft to be in Allison? She was tripping a little bit, but you know, that's what she knows what she has to do. She's a witch. Witch is no.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I mean, she tried it with Damon, too. It was just so funny how much Amon looked, how overwhelmed he seems by the situation sometimes. times. Yeah. He's still very adept at killing people. But at the end, just Alice is so fucking like, it's like, what an idiot. Literally
Starting point is 01:13:22 he gets to when he collapses. Dummy. Dummy. Like stupid. Also, I would never trust in Westrose just at this time when someone comes in with two cups. No drinks. No drinks. No drinks. No drinks. If I don't pour it myself, I'm not drinking it. No drinks. You kidding me? No drinks in Westero's. You killed her man.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Why can't you just not take a drink? No drinks. Like, no, I'm not introducing. I don't want to meet no new people. They're going to try to kill me. Like, no drinks. No new friends. And he was like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Just quick. Just got to make sure. You got to make sure I can't. Sorry, Mom. But he's also funny because he's like, damn, any single time somebody new comes through hair and all, they try to kill me. I already know what's up. Oh, for real?
Starting point is 01:13:58 But, I mean, he didn't, how would you suspect your mom is trying to kill you? Right. To be fair to him. However, this, man, this show, it's not funny, but it is funny. because Allison was in there like, yeah, man, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, she tried to get the sword. And then she tried to grab the, the, what do it, the dagger? She's not built for, she not built for it. No, she can't do it.
Starting point is 01:14:20 She can't do it. She got to do the sneaky thing. And you said this earlier, you mentioned, uh, wait, uh, what's his name, Amon said about his mom to Alice. Mom's got a lot of ideas. Uh, none of them work out. T off, that goes. Agon, we haven't talked much about him.
Starting point is 01:14:36 we have to talk about this Sunfire Long in the Dawn Zombie face Zombie fire Like I like how they matched They matched
Starting point is 01:14:46 What a fantastic shot To end the episode Right He finally Announces himself As King And it felt like He believed it
Starting point is 01:14:56 He was ready to die Mm-hmm And ready to go out He found his courage There's certain characters In all of mythology That find their courage like at the end of their life.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They have like one last stand and then they go out and whatever. It seems like he found that. Like he's actually getting to know himself through some hardship. He needed some hardship. And then his boy comes back and they twinning.
Starting point is 01:15:20 They got the two-face. The two-face is fucked up. Dragon and Ryder all scarred, wearing the scars of his foolish life. But right now kind of living in truth. It's so over for Rainier. It's never been. over for the character.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Then being like, hey man, a dragon came blew us down completely and utterly annihilated our forces. It was sunfire. That means
Starting point is 01:15:47 Agon's alive, which means everything that you've been saying for the last couple weeks has been garbage. We're not going to staff for that. So if we, talking about like the next episode,
Starting point is 01:15:57 so we have the blacks, Reneira on her side right now is down to what, four dragons? Are we calling it off switched? Offer Swift. Yeah, Ulf is Swiss.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Hugh. So we still count Hugh. We still count Baylis. Baylars. We still count Adams. Yeah. We still count Caraxes, obviously. We still count Syrax.
Starting point is 01:16:18 So that's still five against three. Ormick. Or four. I mean, if Someday is still alive. Then it's Ulf with, with, what's it called? Silver Wing, off of Silver Wing. Vagar, obviously, somewhere. Tessarion, that's Daron's Dragon
Starting point is 01:16:39 And then we have Sunfire, Agon's Dragon. We see, we got to tell you. Helena, Helena, Intervision. Yeah, it was with Dreamfire, but she don't like to fly Dreamfire anymore. So it's four against five. But the four aren't,
Starting point is 01:16:53 their forces aren't together. Yeah. Yeah. Yet, we don't know. But it's four dragons. It don't seem like Amon, Amon and Aegean would have to. They'd have to do a lot of hustling to get down to Tumbleton and Tomlton and
Starting point is 01:17:05 time. And I think we found out that Amen's pretty nice, comfortable where he's at. We don't know about Agon at this one. He might be like, oh, snap, what's going on over there? But who knows? Yeah. And there's still so much strife between all of them. They're not in any way together.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Orman has sort of taken the lead as the lead green, and he has his own agenda. It's no longer any type of civil war. But this is almost worse for Renierra because... Without a doubt, it's worse. Where it's like, oh, you're fighting all. a war on so many fronts, where it's like even if all of them don't, even if the opposing side,
Starting point is 01:17:41 all the greens are not together, you take three dragons here, a dragon there, a dragon there at a certain point. And your kingdom, he's like, Ormond is like laughing by the end. He's like, dog, Kings Landing is fucking crumbling around, though.
Starting point is 01:17:54 One of the worst outcomes of a war is to create a new enemy. I mean, like, what, like, you know, you have an enemy in front of you. I mean, it almost always happens. But like, you, you have an enemy in front of you,
Starting point is 01:18:07 you vanquish that enemy. And a new enemy arises because of something that you did wrong or didn't see. You know what I mean? It's sort of a union, Cold War, it's ISIS, whatever you want to say.
Starting point is 01:18:20 You enter into a war, then something else comes out of that. And a lot of times, its resolve is different. It's makeup is different. It's reacting to you at wartime. And so there's little room for diplomacy because it's seen the worst.
Starting point is 01:18:34 version of you. It takes a long time. So in that situation, Ormond is not a new enemy, but he's not a Targaryen. He's not a part of this thing that they started the whole thing over. A lot of that stuff is a lot of bodies built up. So he's like worse than anything she could have imagined going up against when all of this started. Tough for her. You said you wanted to talk about Helena. Helena. So we talked about a little about her being a dreamer, right? And we see it in this episode. One of the last things we see from her is she's having a baby,
Starting point is 01:19:09 and then she's out with the chicken farm, right? You know, doing her thing, raising chickens, about her thing, whatever. And then ice and snow comes down. I worry for my girl. I think, like, we're talking like Death Flags in the last episode. I think she's cooked because the, the, dream of a song in Ice of Fire is like, it's not the most secret thing in Westrose,
Starting point is 01:19:36 but you gotta know somebody to know somebody to really know that, right? And so, even with her being pregnant and the kid maybe being a boy or whatever, but if she's like, yo, I know about that song, I was a Fire joint, you know. Like, if she tells Rainier that she can't hack it, you can't do it, the song, like,
Starting point is 01:19:56 the ice still comes, people still die. You are not the rule. you say you are, that might severing you're off in a way. Like, I can't believe, man. I think it's toast for our girl, fellas. Tough. Tough. One episode left. One episode left. One episode left. One episode left. One episode left. The show is cooking. I'm loving it. I'm loving it.
Starting point is 01:20:15 20 piece? I'm not having it. No, I used to do, I had a I used to call it a power meal. Power meal. What's a power meal? The Power meal was a number four supersized with 20 piece McNugget. Two apple pies. Power meal. Two apple pies. pies? All for me. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:31 What was the number four back then? It was a double quarter pounder meal. Nice. And the 20 nuggets, you just house them. House them. You don't believe me asking anybody. I'll believe. I believe in my nuggets? This was the power mill.
Starting point is 01:20:45 A number four supersized. A double quarter pounder super size. Yeah. Right. Okay. Supersize. Supersized. What's the drink? What's the drink?
Starting point is 01:20:53 Could be orange. Could be a Coke. Could be a Sprite. Yeah. Okay. depending on how I was feeling. But 20-piece McNuggets, two apple pies. Sometimes if I wanted to eat a little lighter,
Starting point is 01:21:03 I wouldn't eat the two-a-poh. Right, right, health nut. But this is the way the 20-piece-minnuggets and the, bro, I could go, bro, back in the day. Yeah. Man, they used to go to Krispy Kreme and get two dozen. My dad would write on one box van. My family would share a dozen.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And then a dozen of the crispy creams would be for me. I love it. I love it. My dad would right on the box van and he would say, son, once you've eaten all of these, do not touch the donuts that are for the family. Right. That's the way he would do it. Everything was two.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Two jugs of orange juice. One for the family. One for van. Like everything. So the way it would start is that my mother would take me to McDonald's and then the 20 pieces of McNuggets would be for the rice. at home because I'd be leaving football or leaving basketball and leaving bad as I'd be hungry.
Starting point is 01:22:00 So the 20 pieces of nuggets, she was like, don't eat the burger in the car because, you know, the ketchup drips or whatever like that, the nuggets you can eat in the car. And so then when she started going to McDonald's, even when I wasn't in the car, she started getting the 20 nuggets and the meal and I could house it. It wasn't no problem.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Man, being younger is so weird. I would eat that shit and go right to sleep. Now, if I eat at six, I have to go to sleep at 9.30 or 10 o'clock. Like, I can't do it. I will not sleep if I eat too close to it. But I used to just house that shit going crazy. What's your own McDonald's order?
Starting point is 01:22:35 What was yours? I'm bushy. I don't have no fucking McDonald's order. I mean, currently? I don't got no McDonald's. You want to McDonald's today? What? You still go to McDonald's? If somebody orders McDonald's, yeah. Oh, shit, okay? Shut out. McDonald's only, like, would only
Starting point is 01:22:51 in college be my, like, I'm fucked up right now. There's nothing. I'll just do a quarter pounder. Just like a medium fry. I was fucking with it for a while. Quarter pounder two McDonald's. Okay, quarter pounder two middles. I only, it's literally I have not ordered McDonald's in the last like six, six years
Starting point is 01:23:08 if I'm not drunk coming home from a night out. Right. McDonald's did change though. I will say. Yeah, yeah. It was hitting now. The McDonald's on my day was fucking good. Remember the food now?
Starting point is 01:23:20 I've had it. Like, once a year I'll have McDonald's. I'm like, this is much. Nah. It's definitely double quarter pounder. 10 piece of nugget, large fries of the dot-go Okay, so you're always there
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah You're almost there at the power mill situation, man The apple pies were You never wake up hung over after that You all didn't do the Mcbang? What was that? Oh, in high school you had a McGang bang When it was actually a dollar
Starting point is 01:23:42 You get the crispy chicken And the double the double cheese You pull up the whole dollar menu Brother you eat back of the day In 2014 The dollar menu was there You could get a dollar menu was insane back then You get a large drink for a dollar.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Large fries for like one something. The McGang Bang. You'll be eating good. You know what crowded out McDonald's to me is the better quality of fast food burger. Yeah. Because like, in and out to the world, the five guys. Whoa, whoa, five guys. I didn't know you was rich like that, my boy.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Am I phone? I haven't eaten in a long time. When five guys first hit our neighborhood, it was crazy. Everybody was going crazy. Also, you want to know what before they started giving everybody, everybody the sickness? Start with Chipotle hit in high school. Bro. I have to be real.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Chipotle was some insanity. I have to be real. So when I left Louisiana Day, then I have Chipotle. Right. So I come out to L.A. And it's a Chipotle. The first Chipotle I've ever eaten that. It's a Chipotle that used to be.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I don't know if it's still there. It was like at the grove, but like outside of the grove. Okay. So you drive through the grove. You know that side on the left where they're like the pottery barn is and stuff like that. Ant Farm used to be over there. and there used to be a Chipotle over there. I remember my roommate Dan was like, yeah, shout out then.
Starting point is 01:25:01 It was like, I'm going to Chipotle. And he was like, yeah, he's like, do you want anything? I was like, what is Chipotle? He goes, oh, it's the burrito place. I'm like, okay, well, give me a burrito. It's like, give me a burrito for Chipotle. He comes home and I eat the Chipotle burrito. I go, man, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:25:19 And he was like, it's good, right? I'm like, this rice tastes like, like, Lemony. Lemony the sabote. He was like, yeah, he was like, and I started going crazy of Chipotle. The Chipotle then is different than the Chipotle. No, the first one of the first of the Chipotle we got, I was like. Bro, $7.99 for the burrito or the bagel.
Starting point is 01:25:44 At high school, all the friends were, we was all going to Chipotle. And they were stingy about the protein. Like, you ask for a second scoop and they can give it to you. You go there, you get the bowl, the rice, the whole thing, the chips. and the guac, Chipotle was holding a nigger down. Now sometimes I just eat it for the nostalgia, but it's not the same. It got stepped on. It got, because then also there all this shit started popping up because I would like go
Starting point is 01:26:07 off vacation. I'm like, hey, what's this Cadova situation? This is not really Chipotle was, man. I like Cudoba. I'll tell you what, Kava though. Cava's like, took all the chari corners. Yeah, low key, not bad either. Took all the Chiple's corner.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I'll tell you something, though. You know what's still good? is maintained even though it's gotten popular. Chick-fil-A. Oh, Chick-fil-Lay never laid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the last one, I'll say, dog, when we got the first Shake Shack.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Hell. I love Shakeshack. In and out all the way, baby. All right, that's an L.A. shit. We still got to hit Century City one of these days and get the movie and shake-shack combo. We have to. We didn't do that before.
Starting point is 01:26:47 We didn't. We said we were going to. We didn't do it. All right, say tapped in and Talk to Thrones every Sunday, every Monday the Midnight Boys give you their House of the Dragon reactions. Our producers today are Alia Zanaris, Jacob Cornett, Devin Birode, Jomi Adonarano
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