The Ringer-Verse - ‘How to Train Your Dragon’ Live-Action Debate (Spoilers) and ‘Predator: Killer of Killers’

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

The Mint Boys are back, and this time they’re joined by the amazing Jessica Clemons to dive into the 'How to Train Your Dragon' live-action remake! From stunning visuals to emotional beats, they break down what worked, what didn’t, and what this means for the future of live-action adaptations. Heads up: Full spoilers ahead for the remake—skip ahead if you haven’t taken flight yet. They also discuss the exciting 'Predator: Killer of Killers' and what makes the 'Predator' films and lore so enjoyable after all these years. Intro (0:00)Reactions to 'How to Train Your Dragon' (5:15)'Predator: Killer of Killers' deep dive (36:15)Outro (1:2:00) Hosts: Jomi Adeniran and Steve AhlmanGuest: Jessica Clemons Producer: Devon RenaldoAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit weathertech.com today. Hello and welcome into the ringer versus the ringer's nexus feed for all things fandom. I'm Steve Alman and I'll jump in dinner on. And we are joined by our dear friend and our often Hello Kitty collaborator, Jessica Clemens. Hi, I got a switch to with no games, but I am playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure and Animal Crossing again. That's good I have a switch to as well And I think the only thing that I'm spending my money on

Is Mario Kart, but Oh yeah, how is Mario Kart? Do you like it? It's good. I think I can kind of start to Understand your take about it being a little BS And no skills actually involved With Mario Kart

We can get on to It is an hour worth of conversation So I have to talk about it next time offline But I... So all as I'll say is that like Maybe the rage that you feel when you play a game of Mario Kart is absolutely justified in this new generation.

Jomi, do you get mad playing Mario Kart? I don't play Mario Kart. I love myself. That's not. That's exactly right. Yeah. Nah. What other self-harm prevention tactics do you have, video games or otherwise?

Do you not watch the Lakers when the playoffs happen? Oh, okay. Chicago Bulls fan. Calm down. Calm down. We don't even make the playoffs. All right. That is self-love.

All this slander. My brother, the last time you saw a championship dog, Do Clayton wasn't president. Leave me alone. All right. Slow down. Damn. I know.

Slow down. All right. All right. We're getting real trophies out here. All right. But before we get into our show today, we're going to talk about what we're going to talk about, the How to Train Your Dragon Live Action remake,

the one that everybody was asking for, along with the one thing that actually people were asking for us to talk about. The newest predator movie, killer of killers. Out now on Hulu that released last week. It's going to be a fun. bloody time that we talk about that. But before we get into all of that, some programming reminders for you all. Tuesday, the House of Art is going to be giving you their hot Nolan summer. That's going to be kicking off and they're going to talk about Batman Begins, along with all of the other

great Christopher Nolan offerings that we have for the rest of the summer. That's going to be very fun. Wednesday, the Midnight Boys are going to be coming back with Midnight Court as the Fantastic Four and Superman Face Off. We're going to be talking about what's the most important movie this summer. Jomi, are you ready to defend the honor of a certain blockbuster starring Pedro Pascal? I will be there no matter what. You absolutely will. You absolutely will. And you'll be as enthusiastic as you are right now. Later next week, House of R is also going to give you their top speeches of the century so far. Jomey, where can that all be found on the internet? You can go to, I mean, you can go anywhere, but we would prefer that you go to the

Bring averse on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and to Facebook. Make sure you're lock in doing great stuff over there. You guys, you're not even ready for this stuff that's coming in this summer. It's a big summer. You know what I'm saying? People's like, oh, man, you know, we're doing hot girl summer. All this. Nah, man, this is hot content summer, baby.

We outside all summer. Hot content summer, mint boy summer. Hot content. It's going to be a minty summer, Steve. We feel to be outside. watching everything that's coming out to summer. Y'all lock it on the socials. Come on.

Don't worry. Jess will not be outside. She will be inside with Hello Kitty Island Adventure. I promise you that. Who needs an island outside when you have an island indoors on a screen? Frankly, that's how that works. I think it's how it works. This is how my escapism works.

Who's on the Hello Kitty flight logs? I need to know. All right. Everybody, please. Everybody, at me right now if you are playing, Hello Kitty Island Adventure. I need some money in the game. game.

I'm strapped for cash. All my money's tied up in Hello Kitty right now. Please, Steve, Tom Nook has taken everything out of my savings. Jess may or may not be hitting the casinos right now in order to pay for her Hello Kitty Island Adventure lifestyle. Rent, 2000, lights, 100, water, 150. Hello Kitty Island Adventure, $2.5 million. I'm starving.

How do I fix my budget? Don't you just love the future that we've made? for ourselves. I really do. It's great. It's awesome. Anyway, let's get into it. We're going to talk about how to train your dragon. Spoiler warning for everything that has to do with the How to Train Your Dragon franchise. Isn't that a great fun phrase to say? Jomey, we've got a live action How to Train Your Dragon remake.

The thing that now everybody seemed to be not wanting, but is kind of actually being enjoyed. The remake is going to be the sequel or the revamp to the animated feature that came out almost 10 years ago. today. It's crazy. Jomey, Jess, what did you think about the live action remake for How to Train Your Dragon? Guys, we were so close to ending this reign of live action remakes, man. Snow White came out and it was panned.

They made no bread. Everybody was mad. And it was like, yes. Disney said we're putting a halt to production of live action remakes. We were so close. we were right there. The finish line was right in front of us. We were on the precipice of greatness.

Then Lilo and Stitch came out and made a billion dollars. And this movie, unfortunately, for live actually making hairs. Well, not only tracking very well, it's just, it's a good movie, man. I don't know to tell you, man. I'm sorry. I went in and not like ready to hate, but I was like, man, they're going to mess it up somehow because that's what they always do.

They always find a way to sell on themselves, you know? And unfortunately, it was good. Now, did they just make the same movie? Yes. Unfortunately, though, when you take a great movie and you just do it again, it's like, oh, that was cool.

Yeah, that was good. The source material is already good, so this is going to be good. And so when they're doing it, the test drive, man, and the music is playing, and toothless and hiccough or gliding over the Viking skies, I'm like, man, that means something to me, despite the fact that I've already seen this before, many times in watching How to Street the Dragon at Home or whatever, on the big screen, live action, it's still it. And so they played all, they literally played

the hits into a movie that I think, wow, lacks a little bit of the charm of the animated version still works. It still works, guys. I think I can agree with that. Jess, what are your thoughts on the original versus the I agree? I like that Universal was basically just like, look, it was not broken, why fix it?

And they were like, we're just going to give them exactly what they got in the animated one. And I saw that trailer and I immediately was like, oh, this is just shot for shot. And I didn't get mad at all because I was like, I don't want you to add to it and then ruin it. Give me the same charm from the little one. that I liked when I was in high school.

And I loved it. I cried at the end, even though I knew how it was all going to go. I thought it was still very charming. But I could also be biased because we got not Fannie, but the friend of Fanny and Wicked plays the twin sister. And then that boy, hiccup is the star of Black Phone. And I was like, look at how he grew.

He's doing such a good job. Yeah, he's like nine feet tall now. He's, yeah, I mean, that's what gross sports are. That's what Stranger Things didn't learn. But I was like, no, it was just very fun. It was very fun. I think it was very charming. It was great.

I think Nick Frost was really in his own element. And I was my favorite character somehow, which was not the case in the animated one. But it was very fun. I would see it again, absolutely 100%. You didn't like Craig Ferguson? You didn't like Craig Ferguson. Which one was Greg Ferguson? Craig Ferguson was a...

I didn't even know it. That had no limbs. Wait. Yeah. In the original. In the original. Oh, my God. I was like, no, that was Nick Frost.

Yeah, no, yeah. That was Nick Cross's character. I didn't care for that character. I didn't care for that character in the first. And when I say I don't care, I still like that character. I chose every other character first. Like, it was just like everyone else was way more fun. I mean, listen, a great showing from Pete Serafinovitz in this one, because I love that.

That's my guy. But as far as my thoughts about this one are, I've really hated most live action remakes. And kind of just on principle, this has been a thing that I think has really just been the, like, cornerstone of the. creativity, bankruptcy era of Hollywood at the moment, where in the span of, I want to say, maybe 15 years, we're trying to just remake all of the hits that not only are animated, but can seemingly just, again, like, if they think that it isn't broke, don't fix it, give us a new code of live action shine on it, and it'll just as easily make that kind of money. How to Train Your Dragon to me is the best case scenario for any live action remake.

Not only does it occasionally look amazing and still emulate a little bit of the charm of it, it still never reaches as good of a heights as the original has. And it's still good and enjoyable. I really don't think that this is the case for live action remakes. existing as a creative endeavor. I think that it's fine at best for the case that we have, but I liked it enough.

And to your point, Jess, about, like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, the director of this movie, Dan de Blas, a co-director on the original, returning to direct this, has been on record to say that, you know, paraphrasing here, that this was effectively going to be made anyway,

and when I was asked to return for it, I wanted to do it just to know that it was going to be done correctly. And that's a philosophy that I very much respect, but Jomi, I think you could agree that has the existence of live action remakes kind of undervalued animation in general? And do you feel like this is like

kind of hurting the cause of animated films? Absolutely not. Because we'll talk about it. You don't think so. We'll talk about Predator Killer for Killers. They could, brother, they could never make arcane or not, live action, don't. They could never make...

I know. Who says that they can't try? Nah. I mean, they can try. It won't be good. Yeah. Like they would never, they were trying to make live action anime for years. And they only want people even like tolerate is one piece.

Right. And you can even argue. And tolerate. And tolerate. And underline tolerate. Yeah. So like we're getting into a point where the only way to do this really is to do one for one.

have to do it kind of the way that they did it. Because when you like look at, just think about like Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Lion King, even Lilo and Stitch to some extent, right? I just saw that the other week. Right. And it's not, it's basically one-to-one except for the whole spoilers for Lilo and Stitch. Nani is like, oh, Hanna means family. And family isn't left behind a forgotten.

Actually, I'm going to leave you behind it. Even though we might have. like, fine. Peace, peace out, right? Like, they like to change stuff, you know, just a little, little something here. Like, I mean, talked about snow at the beginning. It's not the same movie, right? Which is fine, right? Because you wanted, like, try and do something new to change the, because it came out, like, you know, different time. You want to update stuff. But, like, you know, so, God, does that really work for the movie? Who knows? Right? It's, it might not, it doesn't feel the same. Like when you're watching it as a kid

putting it on the big VHS tape, you watch like a, you know, 70 minute thing. You're like, wow, this is really fun. Then you see the doors on live action like, ah, man, somebody, they did not pay the CGI bill this month. Right. And so this movie in particular just gets on that tightrope

and executes like, yeah, we're going to like, they don't change too much, right? There's not like a whole ton of difference, but like, I mean, the first movie is 90 minutes. This is like two hours. They drag out some of the stuff. But at the same time, it's like, it's on rails.

If you've seen a lot of action or you've seen the animated version that you're like, all right, this is going to happen, and then this is going to happen, and then this happens. There's like no difference. And I think that to your point about not adding too much, there's a lot of things that are additive in this movie in hopes to like kind of pat out a bit more of characterization of a couple of things. Hickup has a bit more of a, like, you know, like strained relationship or like they talk a bit more about his mom a little bit. There's a like extended sequence with him in Astrid. Like the kids are having a bit more room to breathe in this so that you can kind of have a bit more of things that were in the original that de Blas like kind of wanted to see in the full animated product because he's gone on to say that, you know, he could consider the initial film as a as a sort of rough draft, things that didn't make. it into that first draft art now in this movie. We see a lot of characters that, like, again, return to form.

We have Jared Butler returning to the fold. I'm more so curious to know that if something can be additive and not changing too much, but certainly being extremely faithful to an animated adaptation, I think for me the thing that is kind of taken away from this is the charm of animation, because I'm seeing certain sequences in this movie where again shout out to the actor that played hiccup he's acting like a cartoon and the translation of that

actually doesn't quite work I think there's moments when he's interacting with toothless that are almost beat for beat perfectly shot from the original and when he's like exaggeratingly about to bring up the knife like he's going to kill him

and he's like over twerking his body and like kind of like acting more exaggerated like he would be in a cartoon. It's not quite working for me. Do you think that, like Jess, do you think that there's a happy medium that this movie exists in or does it kind of lean too far into a cartoonish nature that doesn't exactly work? I think it did work. I think that's more on the direction of maybe the director to the person that played hiccup

because I do think the male of the two twins was very cartoony. Like when the bucket would hit his stomach, he would flop over. Vodvillian. And I was like, oh, this is giving Cartoony. The twins are giving Cartoony. I understand, because I know those like actions that they played in the animation with Hickup was like very limber, not even limber, just like

Gumbie-esque. And they tried to animate it with him, but I don't think he did serve it as well, but the other characters did absolutely serve it very well. I think that cartooning is still translates to the big screen. And I think it worked very, I think it was fun and I think it worked in that way. I also think

it's hard because there's so much heavy action in the movie, like even with the fire dragon that illuminate just is a ball of flame, I was like, yeah, this looks cooler here. Like, if I saw these dragons in the cartoon, I'm like, ooh, but they have

to look actually badass in a live action, and they did it. So I think there's some limitations to that, but I also want to say really quick, I don't think, when I said, when I said, if it's not broke, don't fix it, I don't agree with that with everything. I don't agree with that with anything.

I don't, I would, I would, I, as a creative, would rather see you add something different for a live action adaptation because it's an adaptation. So I want to see what you're doing differently other than the live action part. But in Lilo and Stitch, and a lot of Disney ones, the biggest complaints are from the parts that weren't in the original movies. And I know that's because we're so connected and linked to the original that our complaints are going to be about why is it so straying far away from what we learn to love. And I get that completely. So I think looking at it as a marketing standpoint, Universal's like, you know what, we will make money if we just give them the same thing. Right. And I think that's more of a solution here than it is a problem because, again, Disney's like biggest complaint, as you said, is the fact that they add seemingly too much and then it gets people pissed off.

I think that like the same token of that, now that I know that we have something that's more or less perfectly retold in the best possible way that I could imagine, it. being done. I think it still only can get so high. Jomi, do you think that that's true? I think there's always a ceiling. There's always a ceiling on these live action things because again, we talked about it. You can

either you change too much or you make the same movie, right? And so there's always like a line because there's rarely a time you're going to see like it. You watch like the most perfect animated movie and they remake it again in live action. You're always going to have an attachment to the animated

version because you saw that first, right? That's the one that changed. Now, maybe this movie isn't for people who like love the animated movie and for people who haven't seen the animated movie, right? They're going to come in, watch this movie and go, man, that was that was really cool. What do you mean

they've got three movies and four Netflix spinoffs about this show? I'm going to go watch all of them right now, right? Maybe that's the ultimate goal. But as we sit here and we talk about it, I'm thinking back to my watching in the theater, and we saw this on IMAX, Steve.

And man, when the aspect ratio ships to four IMAX when he gets on toothless, that's fire, man. Like, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sitting there, I'm like, this is me. This is great. Quick side note, I think that we should really, like, be more cinematic when it comes to IMAX aspect ratio changes because that actually is thrilling to see.

like the amount of times like when we were seeing Mission Impossible and Sinners Oh man. Mission Impossible and IMAX was disgusting. When he was underwater with that submarine, I was like, get me out of here. I'm getting, I'm getting claustrophobic. I was like, get me out.

But to make something like as cinematic as when we see in How to Train Your Dragon, when he like actually like ascends into the sky and then the screen widens, like, that's actually thrilling to see. And they're like, again, I, I seem. quite down on it. Like, this again

is probably the best live action remake of anything that has ever been done. And there is, it is not without skill and great, great visual flare that we have a lot of

these flying sequences, which made the first one so incredible. Like, I've seen the original Howt of Trainer Dragon in theaters like five times. Like, it was like one of the first

3D movies that I loved. And it was one of the first like animated IMAX things that I had ever seen. And it was amazing. So this looks great. I think the flying sequences are incredible. I think some of the acting is actually quite good.

I got very emotional when there were moments between Jared Butler's return as the father figure here. I think the music obviously, like, like, Jeremy, you said before, like, using that theme too often is kind of a cheat code. And it actually got the whole thing, bro. They played the whole soundtrack, bro. That's cheating. They got the hits. They had the hits and they knew it. But again, you have to play that because that's like a pretty good.

play yeah yeah you gotta it's beautiful i'm not again i'm not you know talking trash i'm not disrespected i'm just saying that's a layup you know what i'm saying oh we got test drive locked in the bag yeah we feel to mess them up with this one you feel me like come on man like that's this i'm not hate i'm just saying that's that's what it was but again i think but what is it is it more like when the wicked remake comes out just like oh man here they do here they go doing defying gravity again what a cheat code come on now well not that's a musical though That's a music. It depends on who's saying it.

They can mess up to find gravity. You ever been to a karaoke night, Steve? They can mess up to find gravity. Oh, boy. See, oh, this is, this gets into my, like, very toxic karaoke rulebook take, where we need hard and fast rules for karaoke. We need hard and fast rules for karaoke. A number one, I think show tunes are allowed only if they have been made into a Hollywood adaptation.

So you can't go to... You don't need to be busting out... I'm just saying you don't need to be busting out a chorus line. Like, that's not for anybody. As long as I can still do Lim as a Rob, I don't give a fuck. Sure. That's, that falls within the rules. That's fine.

Hey, man, let me get cabinet battle number two on the karaoke. Listen, Jomi, if you know Cabinet Battle number two, I will let you sing that. If you know Cabinet Battle number two, Jomey, you can do it. Take the mic. I think I'm more familiar with number one. Maybe we can chill on the Hamilton a little bit at karaoke night. Maybe we can chill a little bit with that. Do you have to be able to sing to get on a karaoke mic?

Is that one of your roles you got to be able to sing? I'm so glad you asked this. This is my second rule. If you can sing for real, you get to go once. You don't get to go at all. You don't get to go at all. No, no, no, no. If you are a trained singer, you go do karaoke with your trained singer friends.

No, no, no, no. I'm not going to be that exclusionary. I'm just saying, like, you don't need to be like windmill dunking over all of us. Karaoke is for the people and mainly for the people that can't sing. Like, it needs to, it's for Linda that works in accounting that has a song in her heart and needs to sing bye, bye, bye. all right like it's not for like we can all do it it's all it's not for sudden foster to walk into and just exactly i'm like well well shit like that's like puberty

i can't do this i can't you guys on the carnival cruise ticot oh yeah he can't he can do the entire album of that karaoke night i'll see he does do the boys cement discography tyler he's got all those black ladies at the car on a carnival cruise that was the first mistake. He did it on a carnival cruise. A carnival cruise. On a carnival cruise. That man knew exactly what the fuck he was doing. He said, oh, I know my audience. He said, I'm reading the room. Come on. He was locked. He did the audience and he read the room. He was locked. If he doesn't get free cruises for life after that, I don't know what.

Come on now. Every video I see of him too, because I guess he went back and kept doing more. They just keep getting so many views. People love it. I'm like, he's getting Carnival Cruise like eyes right now. Exactly. They need. He gets free cruises for life. Like, they've done so much business because of him now. That's a joke. Shout out to Tyler. But back to How to Train the Dragon, I think the,

like, the bigger question that I've liked for a movie like this, and, like, and when I ask the question is animation undervalued, like, when I see so many of these live action remakes happening, I only think about the fact that we consider these movies, like, a quote unquote,

upgrade or a, like, quote, unquote, validation of how great this original movie was that we're going to bring this into the fold with live action and obviously it's always with diminishing returns. I see this as the thing that like again I'm pulling back to

like the callous nature of like knowing that this was going to be made anyway. The director of Dan DeBlas is like okay well if I have to do this it's going to be the thing that actually if you make it differently it has to be the same. It has to be perfectly done. Do you think that the upgrade

of a live action remake can at all surpass an original. Because again, I think that making something like this is really kind of the ceiling. This is the highest it's ever gotten. I don't think it can, but the only reason,

I also think that's on just us as humans. I think nostalgia does have a link to a lot of things, and it's really hard to make, they're going to make the live action because it's popular for a reason. And so people have that connection to it that's drawn. They're already like, this is what I wanted.

This is what I grew up with. If you make a new balto, I'm not going to like as much as the old balto. I use that as an example because they're never going to make a balto. But they might make a, yo. They might make a balto. I would eat that up. Hey, listen, Balto was my absolute favorite. I loved Balto.

You know, it don't. You guys are talking about. But maybe a wolf can. Me and Steve are aging ourselves out loud. Dude, I have no idea. Delivered the medicine. You delivered the best. I know I did what you guys talking about.

Oh, man, you got to watch Bolto. No, if you go to Disney Plus and watch it, you'd be like, this looks old. Yeah, no, you're like, if you look at it now, you're like, this looks like shit. But, oh, man, Boto is like one of the greatest stories ever told. I loved Balthow. But I think it's with, like, nostalgia, but also a lot of big studios are now going down on their budgets. They're like, we don't want to do a lot of big animation things. We want to do things that are already in a franchise.

That's why a lot of people that are coming with scripts, original scripts nowadays. They're like, okay, cool. Can you make this into a book first? They're going to try adapting video games more often. They just want, it's easier for big, like, Universal, Disney and all these big companies to take a project that's already been developed and then make it into a live action. Yeah, is king now. Yeah, it's king now.

So that's why I'm like, I don't think it will ever be better than the original because of nostalgia, but also won't be better than the original because they're just doing it because it already is popular, if that makes sense. They're just throwing money into something that maybe will do well. I mean, the movie is never better than the book. right? The TV show was never better than the book. All the book people, every single time are like, the book did it better, this and this, which and which,

that's just the nature of humanity. The first time you interact with something, it means something different to you than the second and third time, whether you feel like it's watered down or not. And so once you watch the first animated film, read the book, and then you go to the, you know, whatever remake, whether it be live action or whatever, then you look at it, you go,

nah, the first time I watched it, it was different. The first time I saw it, it wasn't the same. It's possible. I don't know, but I'm also thinking of the things that were better than the book. Like, do we think that Fight Club was better than the book? Steve, I think that's also on you being genuinely, like, an entertainment journalist.

I think that's on you actually talking about the media all the time rather than, like, thinking about our moms that watch the show after it. My mom loved Game of Thrones. She also read the books, and she's never going to choose the game of the game. Thrones TV show over the books, but she's not thinking about like what they couldn't capture in the books that they could capture in the TV show. I mean, talk to me when that series ends.

Maybe we'll have a different conversation. Bring my mom on this podcast. She'll talk to you two hours about how she pissed about it. Oh, so she's very much at George Finnish. She's not watching House of the Dragon because she's mad that he hasn't finished the last book. She's like, I refuse. He was like, he does seem to be doing literally anything else. I'm going to hold your hand when I say this.

Those books are never getting finished. he's never going to Just don't tell my mom that She'll crash out Okay She's one of those where she's like I don't want to see you George R. Martin

Unless it's you're handing me Winds of Winter right now A private copy for some reason Yeah Okay well I think I think that when it comes to how to train your dragon I still really liked it And I think it actually is worth your time

Like I recommend this a lot Because of how important How to Train Your Dragon is the original to me personally. It's a really great story and it's probably like something that like in a post Shrek DreamWorks era, this is the thing that kind of like

kept DreamWorks and that studio on the map for me. They're like, oh, you guys. Joe, go, Kung Fu Panda. They made millions of Kung Fu Panda. I understand that. That's crazy. When we get the Kung Fu Panda live action?

I don't think we can because all the pandas are in China. We rent them out. Wait, Would we be using a real Chinese panda? So wait, are you saying, are you saying that we need to tear a fucking Kung Fu Panda? What? He said live action, so I assume we're using an actual panda in it. Did they get live cats for Lion King?

The Cats movie? For the Cats movie, they did digitally put some butts in there, some buttles. Christ, alive. Oh, my chas. Some CGI-Jason Carruo. The Lion King is not a live action. It's just a digital. We had the same conversation.

We were like, that's a fake. Why would you even call it live action? It's not live action. But it could be a live action, Kung Fu if you get an actual panda. Yeah, but a real panda can't do Kung Fu. How do you know? How poor pandas do you know, do me?

I don't know, man. I've seen a platypus. Those are the biggest lay-about animals ever. I could beef with pandas. Why do you want beef with pandas? That's crazy. And a dangerous species, Steve, why do you say dangerous people? They're lazy.

That's crazy. They don't want to procreate. You notice how he's not saying this about polar bears. That's crazy. Damn. That's crazy. That's propaganda. All right.

Don't ask people about black bears. Steve, Steve. Don't ask people about black bears. How do you feel about the black bear? How do you feel about the black bears? Oh, you don't want to hear that. First of all, polar bears are black bears. Their fur is not white.

It's clear. Wow. You sound like Meryl Streep right now. Wow, that's crazy. Wow. That's true about polar bears, though, all right? You're not going to catch me on some bullshit. Polar bears are black bears.

We originate from the polar bears. That's crazy. That's crazy. This is crazy. This is nuts, dude. Wow. Man, that's... So, Bear politics aside.

Nasty work. It's insane. But no, I think I genuinely wanted to think about, like, the things that... Because we're going to get more of these. we absolutely are going to get more of these. So I had done some like half-hast research about the things that are still technically on the table. And I regret to inform me that Disney does have the rights

and the legal ability to make live action remakes of Pixar films. Yeah, they're going to. They're going to take Toy Story so quick. You think so? Yeah, I feel like they would have done that already. I've been planning on that one for a minute. I feel like they could have done that already.

That's a real shame. But no, I genuinely think that they're testing the waters for a Toy Story 5, and then if that even does remotely well, then they would probably... The thing is they will always make money, toy stories. They will always make money. They will always, because it's in merchandise, too, and it's in the Disneyland parks. They will make money off of Toy Story. And then they're going to make into a live action. I'm trying to think, right, like of Pixar, because I don't...

I think it's actually Disney, like the Disney animation studios, like Frozen, that's coming, you know, eventually. especially with how crazy, wicked. We're already getting the Moana live action. That's already, like, done filming. Pixar's a little bit tough because a lot of these worlds are, like, you could, like, you could probably do Incredibles, Wally. But, like, I mean, Toy Story, like, you can't do live action cars, right? I think you could.

I mean, good. I mean, good would be disgusting. Like, yeah, a lot of these. Did you be gross? No, Toy Story would just be a literal toy. It would literally be like just a walkable toy. They would have, they would digitally like just make a walkable toy and then a human child.

Yeah. I think the most thing would be a Cars live action remake because it's just a world of cars and no people inside of the cars. Because then like you're like, okay, who built these buildings? Who built all these things? Like the methodology and the psychology of what cars actually means for a planet of cars, that always has scared me. But I think anything else pretty much is on the table.

a live action rat in two he can definitely work. No, that means so filthy, dude, to have a rat. Because that's also the thing is like once you turn it into looking like an actual rat, that's how I feel about Wally because his best friend's a cockroach. I don't want to see that. But think about this live action remake for How to Train Your Dragon. Like, toothless in live action looks like toothless in animated. Like they made it cute.

They didn't make it look like the Wyverns or the whatever. Yeah, they didn't do ugly Sonic for Toothless. But like, be for real. you see if you if you like watching the cooking scenes and there are rats on like actual food that's not really that's not really moving me man it looks like just CGI Remy I don't know I think you can be done

I don't think I want rats going over my my potato salad bread that's just not where I'm at man but it's the best potato salad you've ever had in your life I don't not if they're using their feet to mix it that's right I don't know man I think that again it's a It's a bad take, but I think the ceiling is kind of low on potato salad. Well, I just use the food, for example.

I don't really eat potato salad. I don't like mayonnaise like that. But still, if I went to a restaurant to have potato salad and I found out that rats were making a potato salad, I'm calling the health inspector immediately. We're shutting this whole place down. We're lighting on fire. It's a lot tougher when you see cartoon food versus real food being made by rats. Because France is dirty, so they can do it in France.

They can do it in France. France is dirty already, right? You ever been in the San River? Gross. Wow. That whole, that whole, you know what the whole Paris is nasty. Y'all would watch too much Emily and Paris.

So wait, Jeremy can throw all the France under the bus, but I say some shit about polar bears. Well, you're in the euphemism. Jommies was facts. Okay. You ever been to France? Shout to all of our friends with listeners. Nah, forget France.

Hey, PSG sucks. Eiffel Tower. Sucks. Oh, God. Sucks. All of it. Trash. Hey, we want to change all for that war at one time.

But after that, it's been L after L. That's why y'all need us. You know what I'm saying? Hey, no disrespect to my French people. Damn, freedom fries. The way y'all make potatoes, fire. But other than that, it's not really moving me. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Shout out all my African friends people, though. Y'all cool. Damn. That's what's up. And this is coming from Jomi, King of Emily and Paris. Yeah. Bro, they put it, nah, that's fake.

King Watcher of Emily and Paris. That's tourism. They clean the streets. So she'll film Emily and Paris. So go out and you're like, man, it would be nice. Oh, it's cool. But you realize Emily is a white woman and you're an African, man. It's not really the same.

You feel me? You go over there to Paris. They don't treat you the same way they treat Emily. Nah, me. They might treat Steve like that, but me and you just, no. Nah. Perfect. That's great.

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Save at Whole Foods Market. Predator, Killer of Killers. On to something that frankly deserved to be animated and was incredible, all the more incredible for it. Predator Killer of Killers, directed by Dan Tractenberg, director of prey from a couple of years back, wonderful predator film, comes to us with another amazing animated anthology-esque predator film. This takes place over several centuries with short vignetted stories from different times throughout history, Viking Times, Samurai Feudal Japan, and World War II. Jessica Clemens, what did you think of predator, killer of killers? Dude, this was right up my alley. It was right up my alley. I also don't think I had stuff. I didn't have no expectations. I was like, oh, it looks really good. I'm probably going to like it.

Watched it. Oh, I wish it was longer. Forty-five minutes went through so quick for me. I was obsessed with it. I love it. I love that every property of predator is just blowing out their world so much more and showing the different types of alien predators there are. And I'm just like, yeah, I'm into the lore. I'm deep in it. You guys got me. I'm in it. I'm in it. I'm in it. I love it. I'm so obsessed. Okay. That's me. I'm sorry. Do you guys not love it as much? Are you guys not? It was cool. Wait. Jami, go for it. No, I love this. I love this.

Okay, I was like, this was literally my cup of tea. This was all for me. It was great. It was fantastic. I think the thing that like, because I wasn't, I'm watching the first part with the Norse, the old Norse folks. And I was like, man, all right, this is cool.

I see the vision, right? I wasn't all the way locked in until they went to Japan. And they did ghosts of Shushima. versus the Predator. Right. I was like, oh, yeah, this is different.

This is special. Right. Like, it was, it was like, the first part was cool. I was like, yeah, this is cool. I'm saying.

But then once they went to Japan, I was like dope. And then when, oh boy, when he used the engine as like a catapult to kill the other, I was like, I know,

I'm watching a real cinema right now. This is, this is special. When it gets to that fourth part and they're all fighting each other and like only one person speaks English. So he's got to do all the talking for everybody. Mm-hmm. Right?

And they've got to, like, figure out. Like, I thought it all came together in a way that, like, I mean, I kind of expected, like, all right, so how do they all get out of here? But for the fact that, like, it ended and they're like, we might see you next time. I was like, I need it. Give me, give me, give me. I literally. I said, I did what cornbread did in sinners. What cornbread did in sinners.

I was like, give me, give me that fucking. No, no. Give me the second part right now. But it's in here. It's right here. It was the fights. I thought the fights were so well at orchards. Like it was, I know it's animation,

but I was like, even the first, starting with that biking, the shield mate, ah, the skill, it just was animated so nicely. I was so obsessed with it. I'm enamored. I think the thing that I enjoyed the most was, all the predators look different. Because the first one, man, brolic.

I was like, yo, they make predators this size. This is crazy. Yeah, there's different predators. And then the second. one's a little bit, more like regular, you know, we're a custom true predator looking type. Third guy just to do it in a ship. I never seen no predator like use a ship.

I was just like the, the differentiation of all the, the predators and how like they're different and how they hunt different. I mean, except from the, hey, they cheat, man. That cloaking technology, bro, that's so, that's, bro, you're going back to before they had electricity using freaking cloaking, bro, be a man. fight. Stand up.

You know what? Stand up. It was like just seeing like the different pedditor, even like at the end with all the different variations. I just thought that was awesome because we never, never see that. We never see like multiple predators on screen at the same time, usually in these movies.

So to see them all be different, look different, fight different. I thought cinema. So here's my philosophy when it comes to the Predator franchise. And I, and like it was perfectly capsulated in prey. And I'm so glad that. it's going to be, like, reinforced in this.

And it's basically, like, if I could think of any good Assassin's Creed game, put that as the setting for a Predator movie. If you think of Ancient Egypt, great. Give me pirates, great. World War II, great. Fuel in Japan, great. Vikings, do it.

Anything that's in, like, make an Assassin's Creed game, put it in the Predator movies. That's all I need. I now got fucking three. It was perfect. I think the reasoning behind something like this being so refreshing is because not only do you not need that much of an explanation for predator lore, even though that's very fun and stuff that we get in this movie is very, very satisfying. Nothing ever needs to be over explained because it's really just about the relationships between human beings and then you throw in this predator or this alien or this foreign object that, happens to be coming in

kind of their worst, like the worst times in somebody's life in both of these instances. And how I like the philosophy that the, like the Predators warrior culture comes to when they have to seek out these basically like

what they deem to be amazing warriors or amazing things that are trophies to them. And if the idea of you getting to kill a predator is basically an odd addition to send yourself up to be abducted and be sent to the predator planet to go into a cage match with like an Uber predator is incredible. I like absolutely love that.

Do you guys have a can you like give me a ranking of the tiers of stories that you got? Like what was like like your one, two and three. I loved. Oh my God. That is a good question. I mean it's easy for me. Because I it's easy for me. I know which was funny.

The sword, the shield, the bullet. You have three of these stories. Yeah. Yeah, I think mine's actually in that order. I think mine's in that order. Sword, shield, bullet. I loved the shield maiden. I loved it immediately.

Also, the way she fought, she used that shield to, like, keep doors open and to decapitate people. And just, I was like, this is insane. This woman's hardcore. I want to be this woman. The sword, of course you guys know, I'm going to fucking love the sword. That's impossible. The bullet was just great.

The bullet reminded me of Joaquin Torres. from Brave New World. And I was like, oh, he reminds me of Danny Ramirez and I love this and it's really sweet and he's a sweet boy. And then during the battle at the end, I was like, of course he's going to mess up the most.

A little bit. Well, because he's not a dog. Another two are dogs for real. Other two are dogs for real. I was going to also add just really quick before I hear Joe, because I want to hear Jomey's because clearly Jomey has a very different take than us.

You mentioned not knowing the lore to watch it and you don't need to know the lore, but I think this movie was just made to be like, come watch it. And now you want to watch every single predator movie. Like you want to go back to pray. You want to go backwards. You want to go watch them. And I was like, they made this just for the people that don't really know the lore.

They made this so people want to watch it on. Speaking of prey, at the ends, when they're hauling back, oh, girl, to the, first of all, they got a lot of body. A lot of people to kill predators. Maybe predators die the dogs. It's so cool that they just cryogenically freeze warriors throughout all of time. Maybe. But there's a lot of people in there.

There's a lot of predators. They're not them dogs. We thought there was cool. I don't know. You got like a whole Costco warehouse full of people. It's not really in the same. But the girl from pray was in there. Her girlfriend pray was in there.

So, you know what I'm saying? Season two, maybe. My ranking the sword, the shield, and the bullet, I'm going to go with the shield last. No disrespect to our girl. She was handling the business. But I kind of was, because they got a lot of like, under subplot.

And I was like, cool. And then he died, which is really sad. So I was just like, dang, shall I do all that for nothing? That's kind of wet. You know what I mean? Second is the bullet. I think, like, just seeing, like,

the dog fighting with an alien. It's just crazy. And so, like, I got to give love to that. Number one is the sword. That was crazy. Nah, man. Yeah. And when it was, again,

it's really like ghosts of Shoshima. And so when he's doing all the ninja stuff, and he's got the sores. And he, with the bell tower when he's just trying to keep people from hitting the bell and he's just like improvising

stabbing it with arrows and he's trying to like put their heads but he's also trying to save the guy from like falling off like because he's not going to try to kill him but then the second the bell rang and he's just like

ah fuck it. I think he was people were going to see that yeah I think that's why he didn't want him to fall he wasn't cared about saving his life he was like people were going to hear this body drop against the ground that story was great

when he was brother like go outside and like I mean I've like I was like, obviously his brother's alive. Like, there's no way he died because you just fell and you're still alive. And they go out there and they tag team, the predator man. That was, that was cool. That was, I was like, ah, that was fine.

And then they do that same thing where, like, they catch the leaf, but you could see that he's invisible and they're just like, oh, they thought they're going to kill each other. But it looks like they're having like a standoff, right? Like they're about to go and like, like, draw. But they're both killing him. They're both killing him. Come on, man. That was gas.

That's great. It was incredible. For me, it's the sword only because if you just, if you even didn't put a predator in this, that's still the coolest story that you had. Because I like the idea of just like two brothers that like to fight throughout their lives. And it's, and to me, it's a perfect reflection of why it makes the predator so good is because, like, obviously they value those things and they will, they will find people and seek people out that do that.

I think the second one to me actually is the bullet because it actually is the opposite. of why a predator story works, and this one is why it works well. This kid isn't a badass. This kid isn't like a person that a warrior culture would actually value. He's not really out to kill or be skillful. He wants to just kind of do well

and be intuitive and skillful and help. And that's what makes him so good against predator. And I never got to see a predator like fly a ship in a dog fight, which was incredible to see, to know that that little hook thing just straight goes for like the engine block of a plane and rips it out

is so fucking awesome like I'll never like I'll never get over that and the shield maiden was cool it was just you know I thought the shield tech that they could use was used up in all of Captain America movies but it turns out there's still awesome things you could do with a shield in a fight. Yeah you could you can literally

just put it against a wall and cut someone's head off yeah use it as like a mandolin from like with when you got two it's great. The shield maidens they're cool as hell. What game, we were playing a game recently that had a shield maiden, and that's why I was like immediately obsessed with her as soon as I saw her. I think the shield maiden probably had the coolest,

maybe the second coolest of competitor because he was brawling as hell. I was crazy. And he had that cool shockwaves thing that I really liked. Right. That was really cool. But probably like the one at the end who was like, you guys kill each other and the winner has to

fight me. I think he was probably, because he had like, some crazy dreads. Yeah. He had a cake full of spines. He was fine as hell. Oh, dude, come on, man. He was what? Jomey? What? You agreed?

Jomi immediately agreed. No, no, no. What did you say? I said he was fine as hell. Okay. Those teeth? Okay, wait. No, no, no.

No, no. Let's talk about the sex appeal of the predator. Let's go. Yeah, go for it. Sex appeal of the predator? Keep that mask on. Show me that chest and those abs as much as you want. I'll pretend that those are all locks

every single time. Interesting. So you're, you're, you'll black, you're, okay, so you just don't see the face and keep the beady eyes away from you. Yeah. How do you, how do you maneuver around the teeth?

How do you maneuver around the teeth? We don't need to kiss. What are you talking about? Whoa. Oh, oh, yes. Interesting. Interesting. I don't think that's right.

I thought we all assume that you just don't, if you're not looking at the face, there's nothing with the teeth. I just thought like that. Yes. No kissing. No kissing. No kissing. No kiss it. Just get right down to business.

Grass tag. And it's the warlord one. He is fine as hell. I knew he was going to be fine as hell when I saw the thumbnail that was on Hulu. I was like, hmm. But I think I've always been attracted to the predators. I also, if you can't tell by now on these podcasts, I'm a, I'm a creature, creature girl. Interesting. Interesting. So I take you, so Jessica, have you seen the trailer for the new film Predator Badlands, which actually looks. quite good. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. So what are your thoughts on this new protagonist predator that clearly is just modeled after a person? That's clearly just modeled after. He's, what it is about me for that, and someone made a TikTok about this that I was like, I agree with. I think it's that it's the scales. It's too scaly. Have you zoomed in on it?

I'm zooming in on these images. No, no, I haven't zoomed in on it. Okay, well, next time I'm going to zoom in, it has the texture of, like, like an actual animal, which I don't want. So it's like a leathery face type of thing? Yeah, well, I'm trying to search up the photo. All the photos are showing me the BDIs,

which I cannot do. I cannot handle this. But you'll see it. So you just want the mask on and then just like, which, okay, so all right. So let's,

now we rank most fuckable predators and predator killer of killers. The first one's number one. First one's number one. First one's number one. Shield Maiden's number one. Okay. Samurai's number two.

love him looking like he's like he's a little skinny one right he's a little lanky he's a little skinny boy but he's a wily yeah yeah yeah he's a little too wily for me and then the third one yeah that guy he's also kind of a punk bitch he's flying he gets like a really big advantage over the other two who have to get on the ground and actually fight right he like being in the skies cloaked coming after everyone all right so you don't you want warlord man you don't want warlord huh oh no oh wait oh we were including warlord. Warlord's number one, then Shield Maiden,

then Samurai, then the flyer from the bullet is last. All right, so we could look forward to Jess' latest social post where she posts the predator and be like, if you look like this,

DM me. I already posted an Instagram story once the Badlands trailer came out and I was like, where can I freak it? And people were like, Jessica take this down. Where can I freak it?

All right. All right. They said Jessica take it down and I took it down. I took her to my friend and type, man. I took it to my predileple and I freaked it. Hey, we love the movie.

What do we talk about next, man? Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. Jomey, why don't you support me? Why don't you support me? I am willing to, I'm willing to do a lot of things, but on a predator,

nah, man. Well, yeah, you weren't into, you weren't into sizzo in the bug form, either. Which, which honestly, lack of ball knowledge from Jomi.

I really don't, I don't appreciate that. Y'all don't like that? You all like that? What? It's still scissor? It's still scissor. That body still sizzle.

I'm not into the creature, so if Sizum makes it to a brother movie with that face. I'm not into the creature features, man. Nah, dog, nah, dog. Very interesting. I'm not that woke. I'm sorry.

Oh, wow. Oh, I don't want my girl with bug eyes. Cancel, cancel. Cancel. Cancel me. Jesus. A lot of cancelable offenses here. All right.

So let's wrap up today a bit more in animation. news. Jomi, you want to take it away? They're making Incredibles 3. We're at D-23 when they announced that they were developing Incredibles 3 with Brad Bird returning. But they didn't say he would be directing because they announced a new director for the Incredibles 3.

Peter Saan, who directed Elemental and the Good Dinosaur movies that we have varying thoughts on, but he will be the new director for the Incredibles franchise with Brad Bird returning to do the right. Brad Bird is currently occupied with another film right now. And so needed Peter Sondon to step up. Now, Peter Sond has worked with Brad Bird on both the incredible movies.

And so it could be a lateral move, but people are a little bit worried because, you know, it's not Bradbird. And, you know, it's like one thing to have somebody herald a franchise be like the defining vision behind a franchise. And then when they're not as involved, people start to ask questions.

Steve, Jess, how do you feel about Peter Sarn directing Incredibles 3? I'm so excited, but I also support anything Peter does. And I think I love

the good dinosaur, but I also really, really loved Elemental. And I'm just like, he's allowed to take a step up. I think we all should give him a little step up. And it being Incredibles,

I think is okay. I'm like, this is, I would love to see you challenge yourself with the Incredibles. It's a great franchise. It takes 20 years to make every movie

for some reason. So yeah, give us a third Incredibles movie And I'm sure I will really like it So you're also dealing with an established universe already So it's a little bit easier As much as I thought that it was okay I like I did quite enjoy Elemental And I think that the things in the good dinosaur

That like it's it's quietly underrated While we still like to think that it's probably the most forgotten Of all of those idings Because it is quite a nice movie And I really really like this for Peter I think that knowing that Bradbird is going to be heavily involved that he still hasn't like, kind of like put this project out to pasture

and like has moved on to other things. It kind of says a lot. That it denows that like, you know, Bradford has got the cosign for all of this. And as much as I would have loved to see him return to the fold, I think that this is a magnificent choice. And, you know, we would have been moaned the fact that like now while we get a lot of live-adaction remakes,

the only thing that Pixar is going to be making now is sequels. This is one that I'm looking forward to. This is probably the best of all of them that I'm going to be keeping an eye out for. So I'm really excited. I mean, obviously, I think to echo both of your points, it's still the Incredibles. So you're going to be locked in.

Like, Brad Bird is still going to be riding it. So ultimately, there's, like, a floor there that I think is very high. But at the same time, you know, you are going to lose something when, you know, the guy who makes the calls is not the same guy making the calls more. Now, to your guys' point, we like, like, I was, we were. champion elemental way back when, right? Like we're in the, we were in the streets going, this is good, let's go watch it. This is good. You guys watch it.

And eventually people came around to our way of thinking. But at the same time, you just, you just don't know, right? You just don't know, right? It's like when you have a bus driver for a long time, you know, this guy going to get, you can get me there on time and it's going to be, it's going to be a nice smooth ride. There's a new bus driver who like, yeah, I've been on his buses. It's been like, cool. You know, but I don't know how he does this particular route. And so it might be different.

It could be the same. I just don't know, right? But I trust Disney Pixar. I mean, he got the Bad Bird co-sign. He got the Peter Doctor co-sign. Like, these are people who, I mean, inside out too just made a trillion dollars last year. Yeah, that's true. Like, these are things that are proven that people love to watch.

People love to come back to. So ultimately, I'm going to be there. I mean, I'm obviously going to be there, but I'm going to trust that we're going to get a quality, Incredibles 3. But you just never know. I don't want to sit here and be like, it's going to be great. It's going to be fine because who knows. I think it is going to be great. I think it is going to be fine because there's such a difference between the first one and the second one still.

It's completely different. Not even in time, but it's just like the feel of the first one and the second one are completely different. And the third one will also be different. And this time it is also directed by someone that's different. So I think you're still good. And it was still good. I still like the second movie. but I'm just saying they're all

deep down a little different than the last so this one will just be a little different than the last. You guys want to know a secret? We'll probably get less characters than the second movie. The second movie had like 42 new people. Yeah, that was the one thing that I if I were to, you know, nitpick about Incredibles 2, there was like there was a lot going on

that was probably spinning too many points. I love it because I was like, oh, more characters I can cosplay as more characters I can be because I don't want to only be the four people in the family, but I'm like the villain being syndrome and the The first one was excellent. You thought that movie was over at the end and it wasn't. He was holding that baby.

I mean, listen, I just wanted the underminer more. I always love the underminer. No, I'm good. You can keep it. Nobody acts for that. Nah, man. I respect my goat underminer. Yeah.

Guys who want a no secret? What? Incredible Sue is really, really good. In fact, I think it just might be like, no, whoa, whoa. That's what you're about to say. I thought that was what you were about to say. I leaned out of my chair because I thought that was what you were about to say. Continue, I'm sorry.

seem to say it's what's the what's the correct term it is if not just if not a level below if not on par with the first one just like a level below the first one yeah yeah I can agree that's good sure that's that's that's how good Jack Jack these movies are Jack Jack was going crazy at the end in the end of this movie yeah same with the first movie was going crazy at the very end. And I was like, I want to see him do more than just fight. What happens in Incredibles 3 when we see like Jack, Jack, go to college?

Jack, well, no, Jack is going to be walking. No, I think he's going to be walking finally. He's finally going to be able to walk and talk a little bit. He'll say some words. Well, because the first, not the mat, but the interesting thing between the first and second one is movie took like 15 years to come out, 14, 15 years. And they're like, cool, it just starts where the first one ended. He's still a big way.

do they age people up? Are they like, hey, we're two ended, three beginning, baby. It's just the worst two weeks of these people's lives. We've got on screen for you right now. We're doing it again. Yeah, they're like, it's only been three months. Well, I think actually the first movie, the first movie takes place over like maybe a couple months

because he's got like the whole workout montage and whatever. And so, like, you know, me, a superhero, you mean, he wasn't taking no steroids, you know what I'm saying? So he had to get in shape for real. So it took some time, I imagine. I think, yeah, it's probably going to take close to the same time. It has to. Unless they make, yeah, they do age them up.

Make Jack Jack the villain this time. You have to fight family. And they're not brainwashed to do it. They have to. It's like, no, my son just turned evil. It happens. Can't want them all. All right.

We all saw how other lessons. Anyway. Jesus Christ. Jack Jack stabs a girl. I will straight up leave that there. That was not. That was too bleak. I apologize.

Calm down. Jesus Christ, Steve. Jesus, get us out of here. Absolutely not. Lord, I literally please. If all of Incredibles happens in one shot, that'd be neat. But anyway, that's going to be wrap for us. That was a bit addition.

We did it, guys. We love you all. Thank you so much, Jessica Clemens, for joining us this week. Of course. Thank you so much, Jomea, Deneran, for being my amazing co-host. I do what I can. Yeah, you do what you can. Thank you so much, Devin, for producing us this week.

And we also want to give a bit of a shout out to our producer Kerm. He's no longer with us. And we owe him a great debt of gratitude because he was the, why are you laughing, Jomey? It's not funny, but it sounded like he died. Oh, what? He's that serious? He's still. It's crazy.

Yeah, that's fine. That sounded a little long. Now, who would like to go next in the eulogy? as we man he was an ex-man fan he hated Charles

Xavier in the past it's you can still texting bro you can call yeah I know he's around he talked to him

recently he's doing fine he talked to him all the time he didn't die now we miss we miss have a girl

man love him yeah yeah that's all love baby love our guy no it's of course of course yeah

he was he was our producer from the beginning and it's a shame that he's gone, but we miss him. We love him. And thank you again. It's almost like I can still hear his voice. That he's done.

Exactly. Almost like if I text him, he might text back. He'd be like, yo, turn his podcast off as Friday. I've got to get. I've got to go. I've got to go. And with that, we'll be going soon. Thank you so much to our junior ramical pal for his

addiction to production on this. Jomi, do you have parting words for us? Shout out to Dev for taking the reins. We really, really appreciate you, Jess. Oh, you gotta do a name riff

for Dev now. No, man. That's a shout out my boy, Kerm, rest in peace to Kerm. That's only for him, you know,

because he, according to Steve, died in honorable death. So, passed away. Keep it like that. He passed away. Jess,

how much are you going to spend on Hello Kitty Island Adventure in the coming weeks? No more. No more money. No more monies. No more monies.

We know you have no, money. I don't believe. Jess, hey, guess what? I don't believe you. Hang up. We'll see you guys next. Cut the cameras.

Cut the cameras. Cut the cameras. Dead ass. Dead ass cameras.