The Ringer-Verse - 'Invincible' Season 2, Episode 3 Reactions, Plus the Teenage Hero Draft | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

The Midnight Boys return to the Viltrum empire and give you their instant reactions to the latest episode of 'Invincible' (09:30). Then later, they engage in the pluck and celebrate Ms. Marvel and Invincible with the Teenage Hero Draft (47:42). Hosts: Charles Holmes, Van Lathan, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Social: Jomi Adeniran Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Ringers' Nexus podcast, feed for all things. We are. Show me to explain here at dinner on you. You've got questions. He's got answers. We are. Steve, the architect,

almond. The international man of mystery is anyway. He's all over the place. We are. Old man, Van Vandy, of the receding, resurgent hairline. We are a co-baby Chuck.

24-carriced closer, a.k.a. Mr. Move, aka the brunch hot. Together, we are known as of a midnight, boys. I'm a new. Okay, so we have a new drop coming in.

Jummi, why don't you introduce it? I mean, you know, if you heard them as Marvel Pod, you know what drop is coming. We had to add this to the repertoire. So, you know, anytime Steve gets on his horse and start talking about, you know, black folk business, Steve, play the drums. Oh, yeah, so it's going to sound like this.

no we can't do that shit we're doing it we're doing it we're doing it that shit we're doing it I I

see this is that is that I have to I have to play it when you say yeah that's right yeah yeah

and just like stop the cap it's gonna be like man drum it up baby drum it up Steve's drumming it up wait is this reserve

for Steve or if we ever have Joe or Mal on the pot again. You know, any white person can get. Is this my walkout music now? Anybody. Anybody that comes on. And really, if we're faking the funk on the panda junk, it can be used for us.

It happens sometimes when we put it. If we faking the funk on the pander, it can be used for us. All right. Also on socials, Instagram, Facebook, save Jomi's job. Jomi, quick socials update. It's going good day.

Thanks for 23K on Instagram. Help us get to 20K on TikTok and keep following us wherever you can. You know, appreciate y'all. Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate you. On Monday, a brand new mintage edition will be dropping talking about the

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Okay, sweet. Next Friday, the Midnight Boys, will be giving you their reactions to the mid-season finale of Invincible. Oh, he's Invisible. Oh, he's Mark Grayson. He goes to school. He fights crime. His daddy, me, man, me, man. Okay.

On today's show, we're going to give you our instant reactions. to Invincible episode four, they're like, and then we will be celebrating Kamala Khan and Invincible with the teenage hero draft. Guys, teenage heroes, they're full of pluck. They haven't been sullied by the world yet. Charles, what's your favorite thing about a teenage hero? Because you like a teenage hero.

I don't fucking hate it. But what's your favorite thing about a teenage hero, Chuck? Tell me. Honestly, I just think because, you know, I was reading Spider-Man comics, and by the time I got into that shit, Peter was just fucking 35. He was a teacher. I don't want to hear about them white boy problems. You know what I'm saying?

At least as a teenager, like, you're like, all right, you're going through puberty. Once these white heroes get, like, past 30, I'm like, wrap it the fuck up, bro. Come on. Whoa. What? You're just, that makes no sense. 30, you're getting into your prime, Chuck. I'm 31 and I'm not in my prime.

I will tell you that right fucking now. But if you had started being a hero in like 21, it's like you won a Batman as probably like, when we think of Batman, he's probably like 33 years old. You know, he's at his. Yeah, no, no, no, no. But he has the emotional,

he has the emotional depth of a teenager. So the next draft is going to be the teenage emotional depth draft? That's what I'm saying. Like, I just don't like an old-ass hero. Like, that's why Superman is so whack. I'm like, bro, I'm not trying to see your happy, like, low-slee. Fuck off, bro. Wow.

So you prefer, you prefer teenage heroes. That's me personally. I'll ask you this question, then. Sure. Now, take Spider-Man. Spider-Man in the comic books has been a 30-something for longer than he's been a teenager. Part of me is, like, it don't make sense if you're a white man. Like, I can't feel bad for you if you fucking up that.

you had all the cards set out for you. And that's sometimes why Spider-Man, I'm like, bro, get it together. Like, you know? Okay, Charles. What? It's the truth. He's married to a supermodel.

I'm not trying to hear this shit anymore. So I don't know what's happened recently that has caused you to have become radicalized. I know that it's happened. You don't know what's happened? Recently. Look at the world. It's actually true.

But I'll say this, though. I personally feel like Spider-Man got much more interesting when he left school. Fuck at. Nah. Because you, okay, after this, we can go into it. Wait, comic book-wise or like TV movie? Let me tell you something, bro.

My biggest thing is this. I'm watching Spider-Man No Way Home. And remember, I'm old. I'm getting to the point to where I've been older, longer than I was young. Okay? I'm getting to that point. And I hear these kids

and they're talking about either saving the whole city, maybe the whole world, or going to a mixer for their college. And I can't relate, bro. I can't relate. Even when I'm playing the Spider-Man game and Miles Morales is like,

oh, I gotta get back so that I can help out the swim team. I'm like, fuck the swim team, nigga. Fuck them. Wait, did you go on the adventure yet? where they have to fucking, he has to go through the city for his high school friends,

like, buying the mascot or some shit? I'm like, fuck out of here. I'm like, bro, come on, man. Fuck him, bro. He's a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Don't go beat up the lizard, bro. What are these kids doing? And so that's my problem with plucky teenage superheroes.

My problem is that you get with Mary Jane. And after they've got married, it's like an understanding. Mary Jane knows, hey, I'm going to be late for dinner. saving the city from Dr. Octopus. But when it's in the 12th grade, and this is a problem with teenagers in general, when you're in the 12th grade, you think that prom is the most important thing in the world.

So they're not being unrealistic to 12th graders when they say, yo, do I save all the people in the Empire State Building or do I go to prom? Because when you're in the 12th grade, prom is the single most important thing in your life. And I'm past that. I don't think the kids,

I don't think the kids going up a prom like that still. What? Bro, you're so out of, you're not tab. Wait, really? Bro. The kids like prom like that?

I don't give a fuck about pro. Like, I went, but it wasn't like, did you go. I did go. I don't know if you went. It seems like you got a junior prom

and senior prom. I had a gate. I don't know. You got some pimped up, you pint up prom frustrations right here. Because here's the thing. Like, we all just going to go into a fucking,

like, your uncle. got an Italian fucking restaurant and y'all in there, like, nigger eating like fucking terrible big Zidi fuck out of here, no. But so these are my problems with like, you know, teenage

superheroes. My problem with teenage superheroes is there's always something to me that's insignificant that's stopping them, oh, you got to go live your life and play the guitar and all that. Fuck that, nigga. Go fucking take somebody to the raft. You got bit by a spider.

You have no life. Okay. Now look, and all of these things get touched on in Invincible, which we're going to get to first. Invincible first, draft second, I feel like is the correct order. Do the Midnight Boys agree? Yes. Yeah, Invincible first and then the draft. Since that's the case, we need to let you know that we're going to be spoiling everything from Invincible.

Now, where we're not going to spoil, okay, it's very important to say this because some people brought this up. We're going to be spoiling everything that happened in Invincible. the animated series, but certain people on this show are comic book readers. What we won't be doing is jumping ahead to anything that's comic canon

and spoiling future things in the Invincible show. We didn't spoil anything in Invincible. People were talking about that you guys were getting to the spoilery levels talking about you read the comics and all that different stuff. We got to, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got to be real.

This must be real for real right now. We got to be for real, bro. Like midnight, midnight mom used to fucking relax because I saw that tweet. Oh, okay. Y'all ain't talking about the marvels. Now they're like, y'all getting a little too spoilery. We're not saying you did any spoilery shit, but it's getting, I'm like, calm down.

Like, fucking calm down, guys. The world has got the heat. You can deal with a couple spoilers if they happen. Fuck off. Hey, I tell you guys right now, Charles not fucking with y'all no more. Charles is done. Charles is cracking right now. And I love it.

All right. Steve, run the spoiler one. We're getting ready to talk about. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. All right, in order to put you in the know, what you have to be to follow the podcast. We have a little something called,

Of the Midnight Manifist, and we have the Midnight Manifest reader and creator. Chuck Wagon, who's going to do that for you right now? Take it away, Chuck. All right, this is your Midnight Manifest for Invincible Episode 3, directed by Tanner Johnson and written by Adrial Lang. We begin with Debbie, who drops Mark off at college and finally decides to go to a superhero support group.

But after getting tricks with one of the members, she discovers that Omni Man killed his spouse, bring ghosts, and an emotional fallout ensues. At Upstate University, Mark and Amber have sex for the first time, but Mark meets an alien from Thraxa who says they need the hero to save their planet and his people. When Mark gets to the planet, though, he's surprised to meet his father, who has been stationed there.

Meanwhile, we learned the backstory of Alan the Alien, and his race of people that Unopens. Alan informs the coalition of planets about what happened in the battle between Omneman and Invincible, but the only person who seems to believe him is the head of the coalition, Thaddeus. Thadis informs Alan that there's a mole

within the coalition, which inevitably leads to Alan getting ambushed by three Biltramites who want to know all the information he has on Omneman before beating Alan to within an inch of his life. And that has been your midnight manifest for the third episode of Invincible. All right, instant reactions.

A three. Chuck Wacken, take it away. We got to save our Black Queen Amber because I know Mark has the middest dick. When that shit happened, I was like, bro. Like, you got no games. That's your first thing. You got no games, bro.

The whole episode happened. What's going on? That's the first thing you thought about. What? That's what I heard. That was a reaction. Why are we already here? Alan was laying it down.

But you don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know that. When he cut away. I'm all shot of baby. And she's like, don't call me baby. I'm like, damn. We can't say, like, Mark is getting on my nerves this season.

His dad did beat the shit out of him. But he's lost his groove. Marky Mark has lost his groove. But on a more serious note, this season of Invincible is kind of like leaving me in a weird area. Because when I read the comics, these were the moments that I liked the best in the comic books.

It wasn't actually Omni Man turning, in those reveals, it was more of the quieter moments where we got to be with the characters. And I think animation and TV is just a different medium. And I think having a 45-minute animated show is just a different beast. And this episode was not bad by any regards. I just was kind of feeling like I need that momentum again. I need y'all to like get like shift into the next gear, especially because we're already at the mid-season. And I'm still feeling like season two is getting its feet under it.

Is that unfair, man? That's more about the first three episodes in total. But am I, like, am I crazy? No, I personally think that for people that are feeling that same thing, it's not necessarily even the shows that we're getting. It's the knowledge that we're getting them in two, four episode, tranches. And so because we know that there's only one more episode until we got to wait

a little bit more, it's actually ratcheting up the expectations of every individual episode for some reason. I thought this one was really good. But for some reason, I don't disagree with you. This was actually a really good episode of television, right? I loved everything that was going on with Mark's mom. on the edge of my seat when she's about to tell the guy from her

her support group that Omni Man killed his wife which what a fucking misread there right? I'd have probably been like I would have never either I'm not coming back to the group but I'm not about to tell him right there

outside the ball like Omni Man killed your wife I'd have been like God when she said I'm going to the bathroom I'm like yo home girl just dip like just get back in the car just get out of it. When she told him the truth I'm like, whoa.

I don't know what she expected that nigga to do. Like, I'm just being for real. Like, I don't know what she expected from him. It was kind of like a situation to where what you expected him to go, oh, man, that's fucked up. That's straight. I mean, she just needed to get that off her chest for sure. Honestly, he was being a little bit of a bitch, though.

Like, the whole, he was annoying me because he slipped it in. He slipped it in while they were talking. She's like, oh, I didn't, I didn't know that your, like, wife, the superhero had a significant other and he's like, yeah, we talked about it. I'm like, dog, know your place, bro. So this is my thing. I get it. But the reality of the whole thing is it was just very, I was on the edge of my seat.

It was very tense. I'm like, don't tell him. I thought he was going to shoot his shot at one point. I'm like, I thought he was too. I thought he was trying to get it popping. Okay. That plus the Allen, the alien backstory. All of this stuff is good and interesting stuff.

that they're weaving in and expanding the universe of Invincible and taking the show to another place. There are questions to be asked about where that stuff fits in the narrative of this season of Invincible. And because it's sort of,

we know that we're not getting the whole season rolling out at one. We're not getting the whole load. Yeah. See? I'm just going to let that pass. You know what you're doing. Okay.

Okay. What? Y'all don't want the whole invincible load. That's fine. There you go. That's crazy. Keep it. Keep it pushing.

You just do it on purpose. You just do it on purpose. And just because of that, it's like, okay, well, what's going to happen now? What's happening now? Although, I will say at the end, the cliffhanger to Omni Man being back, that is an indication of where we're going and what's going to happen. I know all you comic readers and fans. stuff like that, we'll be into that. So I am enjoying Invincible. I think it's fantastic. It's great. This was a great episode. But in the grander scheme of things, I think I understand what you were

attempting to convey with when you were saying what you were saying. So I'm going to be honest with you. I do kind of agree. Men, boys, what do y'all think? As a non-comic book reader of Invincible, it's clear that there's like a lot of rich stories that the show is being very particular with what it is and is not showing us because there is a lot to set up and there's a lot for this show to do, even within a 45-minute episode span, getting half of the episode being about Allen and then the rest of this episode being about Mark addressing the idea of answering a call of duty outside of, you know, out of like, guilt out of what happened with his dad and also trying to like make sure that he is also not

his dad, there's a really good, deft hand here with the amount of things that we're being shown because this clearly, this show clearly has a lot on its mind. And it's trying to do a lot that animated shows really aren't doing nowadays. It has a lot of great dramatic stakes, especially with Mark's mom. And I'm exceedingly impressed, and I'm full speed ahead. It's great. I'm rocking with it, But I do understand Charles's point because when you drop, you say we're doing four right now, we're doing four later. It heightens, you're like, oh, these four episodes must be fired. These four episodes may you gas if you feel like you can do go half and half.

And I guess that it's good, but it's a lot of, it's a lot of setup. There's a lot of, you know, getting things in position to get ready to happen. And while like I'm enjoying when I'm seeing the season, I can, I can understand where some people watch. it and be like, this is cool, but like, when when we start, like, you know, getting to the stuff? I would, you know, I'm still, I'm still enjoying it, though. I'm still having a great time. Having a blast. Can I ask this? After this episode, there was also something that was interesting. Because I read the comics, I do think Invincible was so ahead of its time in terms of, like, Debbie going through the grief and Mark going through the grief of what Omnuman did. This is, it's not as,

I think intense in the comic books, but this is all source material stuff. But they've been trying to make an invincible live action movie for years. They've been trying to make this TV show for years. And one thing I was noticing about the grief aspect or the Engstrom-Levy multidimensional aspect is that, is this show almost a victim of when it comes out? And what I mean by that is we've gotten so many Marvel movies and TV shows,

whether it's Endgame or WandaVision or now the Marvels, about grief, about what it is like when either a hero dies or somebody close to you dies, we've gotten all of these things that I think if Invincible had come out in a different time, I would be feeling like, oh, man, this is so fresh and new, like when I was reading it. But watching this, I'm just like, oh, we're doing another, like, grief storyline in a superhero show. Okay. And that was also something where it's not the show's fault. it is more so this has been something that a lot of our superhero content has been circling around for years at this point.

Boom! Let me say something that Charles, let me tell you what Charles just said, guys. Charles just talked about Invincible, but he didn't really talk about Invincible. He talked about something bigger. I'm being serious right now. That, if I was a doctor, Dr. Lathen, M.D. that what you just described is superhero fatigue.

And let me tell you why. Okay. Every superhero. Every single superhero has a huge grief storyline. Every single one. They're super strong. The only way to humanize them,

the only thing that we can relate to is when they're sad. The only thing. Sad, maybe in love. But even in love sometimes, it's like weird, right? Because, like, Superman and Louis Lane, she loves Superman, but, like, she fucking, she's like, sometimes this is Clark Kenan. I used to think, well, fucking, just go, just date her as Superman.

Love is one thing. But grief is the one thing that they all have. Fucking, grief is part of either the call to action, the hero's journey, or it's the thing. that cuts them down to size. Always. The reason why you're tired of it is because there's so much superhero content. The reason why you're sick of seeing it now

is because it's such a central thing that almost every hero has to do. And it keeps coming back and back and back and back and back and back every single time that you're going to yourself, hey, I just saw this with Wanda. Hey, I just saw this with fucking Kate Bishop. Hey, I just saw this.

I mean, Wakanda forever was... I mean, Wakanda for... I just saw this, I just saw this. That's actually real grief, right? I just saw this. I just saw this. I just saw this. And so, Invincible, a show that really seeks to break or redefine a lot of those conventions,

sort of like the boy... The boy says, I just watched Jim V fucking fantastic. It's a grief fest. There's one episode where they fucking go into her mind and everybody's talking about the fucked up terrible shit that they did. Some people are grieving over stuff. Some people are just regretful over stuff,

but it's all that same emotion, right? So I often wonder, Charles, and to the rest of the midnight boys, like, if we'll ever just get tired of seeing some of this stuff, if we'll ever get tired of seeing a costume, if we'll ever get tired of, oh, here goes somebody flying again, oh, here's somebody else with mental powers, oh, here's another time in the multiverse,

here's this, all these things, this is like par for the, superhero of course, we've just gotten so, so much of it. Well, I'd argue, like, we were seeing some of that stuff. Like, every time, like, an origin story, people are like, it's another origin story thing, man, like, ah, like, people don't really rock with that anymore. That is true. They don't do origin stories anymore.

People don't, like, that's not the vibe no more. If there's a new hero, they have to, like, either already exist or be, like, in action somewhere just like, you know, incognito or whatever. Like when you see we see another shirt like, man, it's going to lose somebody close to him people are not really locked in like that, right? And so you're already seeing that kind of stuff

to go to that extreme about seeing people fly, all those things. Personally, I don't think I'll ever get there. You know, because I love this stuff a lot. But yeah, I mean, we're already kind of creeping to that level, man. I mean, we saw, like, when she goes to, like, the superhero support group,

we saw a version of this in Endgame. That's what I'm saying, where it's like, this is not Invincible's fault, but there is a level of like, oh, okay, I've seen the scene. I know how it goes, blah, blah, blah, blah. And of course, Invincible was written before any of this. It is just, I am getting a little bit like, we talked about it earlier. When Anxham Levy, when there was a bunch of him, I'm like, I knew this shit was already going to happen.

But like, I'm like, bra, man, we just saw this in across the Spider-Ver. It's crazy because, again, this is not Invincible's fault at all. because at the time of publication, this was very innovative, like to balance this seemingly origin story of a brand new young, brash hero with the uber powerful hyper-evil contrast that is his dad.

And when we constantly see these familiar scenes and these like all familiar, even line deliveries and setups, I can't say that Invincible is doing any of, it wrong because it isn't. It's doing it quite well. I don't think that I'm getting sick of it because it's the same way that I wouldn't get sick of seeing the same four seasons or however many seasons of Star Trek next generation. Those things can be tried and true and those types of stories can repeat upon themselves. And if there's even wiggle room to do something different, to have some sort of

different interesting commentary to mix the human with the inhuman to show humanity in a different way, I'm for it. So I won't be tired of it soon. Let me tell you why I think the way Invincible is doing it works. Grief and trauma, right? I think the show works because we spend a lot of time away from Mark. We spend a lot of time in Mark's world. When you're a teenager, sometimes the world feels bigger than you. And as you become an adult, you sometimes feel bigger than the world because your problems are so paramount,

you start going, hey, you know what? I don't really care what's happening over there. Just give me the gas for as cheap as possible because the gas affects my bottom line. I don't care where that's happening right there. Just get me there as quickly as possible. Fuck the environment. Get me there as quickly as possible.

because I got to get there so I can get back because I got to go to sleep, whatever, I got to go there and then I kind of come back. So as you grow older, you feel bigger than the world. When your kid, the world feels bigger than you. Everything feels like, I have to change all of this stuff. I have to do all of this stuff.

Everything is wearing down on you. Invincible as a show is told from the perspective of someone who still views the world as being bigger than them. So all of the outside things around them affect him in very specific ways. It was very touched by what happened with his mother, right? Because typically a character like that doesn't get the opportunity to emote. What I mean by that is we talk about women in comic book properties being fridged, like, directly, like, kicked to the back burner. But we will never talk about the emotional fridging that female characters have to go.

through. Like, she was with this man for the entire time and he said, hey, I love you like a pet. You don't shake that one off, baby. And so when she's in the, I mean, you don't shake that one off. When she's in the house with that couple, and that guy is being a dick and God damn,

why they had to go interracial there, man. That was so bad. I will say the black, like, it's been a too bad for Negroes and Invincible. Because Darkwing was a crazy asshole. The dude who went to the house was an asshole. The fucking black guy she met at the like the support group was an asshole.

I'm like, dog, what's happening? I'm being honest, bro. Let's keep it all the way real. I'm watching this. I got it in my notes. I was like in my nose right here. It says niggas are 0 for three on Invincible. Like the one kid that was crazy pulled him into the shadow round in the last episode.

Then you got this dude controlling him. his wife treating her like a pet, then the dude at the end, who you thought was cool, only to turn out that he has, get the fuck out of here. Oh, Anxham Levy, that's four. Antrim Levy. That's four, bro. I'm saying, bro. Jomi, you laughing.

Okay? And I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. They got Amber with fucking dorko over there. Like, I'm sorry. I don't like Mark as just, I like invent. But whenever he's Mark, I'm like, bro, you were so lame, dude. You got superpowers.

Act like it. He sucks. I mean, he's been through a traumatic experience. You know, I'm inclined to let him slide. You don't lose out on the drip just because you added a traumatic experience. He got sunned in front of the entire earth. I'm like, come on, bro. You know what I mean?

Have a hard, Charles. See, you have to like the black kid, the animated black guys from Invincible. Drum it up. Please. You're laughing a little too hard there, Steve. Drum it up, Steve. You're enjoying it too. All right.

Now, now, look, so I'm saying watching her go through that and watching her process it, it is, that to me is something that, like, Aunt May, lost Uncle Ben in Spider-Man, homecoming, plucky, teenage, but we don't spend very, much time with her dealing with that.

She seems very well adjusted. They only talk around the edges of it. I like getting into that kind of stuff. And I think the way Invisible humanizes his characters and we'll get into Alan the Alien and his entire storyline because I thought that was really,

really interesting, kind of giving us like a two-parter right there. I think that that makes the show breathable for me. It's a breath of fresh air every time I see that they go different places with the story. How'd you feel about Alan the Alien?

Because I actually, Alan is one of my favorite characters from the comics. and they just nail that character, like, so well. I actually thought that that was weirdly the most compelling part of the entire episode. I knew it was going to happen, but when they beat the shit out of him, it hurt. And his home girl got to watch him get stomped out. I would have told the Viltramites right there.

I'm just like, yo, can we go a couple like kilometers, bro? Like, don't do this in front of my girl. My question about that was that, was Alan in any way thinking that they were about to beat the dog shit out of him? because, I mean, he was pretty okay with everything that was happening. Like, he was joking around and having a good time. I'm like, yo, my nigga, it's three of them.

Like, one of them. Like, one of them is tough enough. But it's three of them. They're out there looking like the super criminals, General Zod and them, and they're kicking his mother, and I'm not going to lie, bro. I started to get emotional

just how bad they beat the dog shit out of him. Whoa, but counterpoint. Was he trying to be like a G about it and be like, A little bit. I'm going to get my ass kick, but I'm not going to go out like a bitch in front of my girl. Like, I'm going to take it.

Like, I'm going to take this one. And she's going to know that, hey, I got heart. I'm so glad we're talking about this because this is a real situation. No, we've all thought about this hypothetically, but I've seen it happen. Oh, for real? There was a guy in Baton Rouge. His name was Leslie.

These, like, man, shout out to Leslie and the whole brother Nathan. And those, they were cool. They were cool. Love those guys. But they weren't to be messed with. They weren't to be fucked with. They were, you know, in the back of the bus. Leslie was on the bus with us.

We was in like the 10th grade. No telling how old Leslie was. I just don't remember how old. Oh, man. Leslie could have been 19, 20, 21. Who knows. But he was going to school. He was making a go of it.

We on the back of the bus. Somebody pulls out. I've seen he was with his girlfriend. it was like a cute little situation, right? So I'm not going to call his name because, you know, he still be around. I know him. Shout out to you, brother. You're doing good.

I love you. I love your family. But this is a real story to happen. I'm sorry. He had the little bag of zaps, potato chips, the jalapeno joints, the coveted, the most coveted zaps. The zaps, the zaps, jalapeno crazy, right? They great. Pulled him out, him and this girl in the back.

They, you know, they're sharing the chips. and I'm looking over because I just felt it. I felt it in the air. Something was off. Leslie, look. Leslie was like, let me get a couple of those. And he was like, nah, man, we're sharing them. And he was like, all right, give me the whole bag.

And we stopped because we knew if he didn't give Leslie all his chips, man, he was about to get drugged through the back of the bus. So he looked over to me. And he looked at Dedrick. looked at Chris, and all I said was, damn, I'm happy I'm not you right now. Yo, you're not shit, bro. Damn, I'm happy.

You didn't help him out? That wasn't my boy? I'm about to throw, I mean, I know. Okay, I thought you were playing. Wow. No, no, I know him. That wasn't my boy. And, and Leslie said, say, bro,

I know you don't want me to walk your ass on the back of this bus for a bag of chips. I remember, like you say, bro, it's really not worth it. I don't want to have to beat your ass over a bag of chips. I remember he hid the chips. He handed the chips over to Leslie, and the girl started crying. I was like, well, that's over. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

To play devil's advocate, though. This is a Kobayashi Marine. He's fucked if he does and he fucked if he does it. Because if he gives the chips up, he kind of looks like a bitch. He's like getting punked a little bit. If he don't give up the chips and he gets his ass beat, he still looks, he goes out like a punk. That's the point.

It depends on the lady. Because in the situation that you're talking about with Alan, the alien, two things. One, his girl might have been impressed by the fact that he was so brave and he stood up to three Viltramites, right? That could be the thing. It's not necessarily that he got destroyed by three Viltramites. He had no chance to beat them. Alan went out like a G. When I like a G.

He went out like a G. And there's another girl or a spouse of any kind, not to be superheter or normative here, that looks at you get beat up and goes, hey, I can't be with the weakest motherfucker in the galaxy. So I actually feel like my homie on the bus should have fought. And then that puts the ball back in her court. Hey, I'm not giving up my chips.

You get cracked up a couple times. your face going heal up probably in about two weeks. And then you know whether or not she appreciates not the results, but the bravery. So that's the thing. And that's a question. The question is, Steve, you're at the movies with a fine young Gothic princess like you like a goth girl. Okay. Yeah, that's what you like, nigga.

Whoa, whoa. Joey's on the big city goth girls as well. Jesus Christ. You know, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all taking some. First of all, taking liberties. Taking some milk to the AMC. Mid- Edition, y'all need to stop fucking faking the funk, bro.

Come on. It's really milk edition. That's what it's. It's really milk edition. Milk edition is done. That's what it really is. That's crazy. All right.

I'm lactose intolerant. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm lactose intolerant. I don't know what you're talking about. It's really milk condition. I can't even just dairy. I see how you look at Haley Stifeld. Shut the fuck up, Joe.

Well, I take lactate for that as different. Wow. So let's say, y'all, at the AMC, right? Y'all with a nice girl, speaking of Alan, the Alien here. And in front of you is Francis Ngano. And Francis Ngano is leaving. He's mad because he don't have a ticket to the show. The show sold out.

You got a ticket. Francis Ngano says, fuck it. Takes a ticket out of your head. I go to the movies, is what he says to you. You're with the girl. Do you fight Francis Inganu right there for your ticket and for your honor and for your night with the girl? Or do you take one for the team and try to see it the next day? Jomi, Steve, what say you?

It's tough call. It is tough. I feel like Francis would see the reason. I'm not, look. Well, he can't fight me, right? Because aren't his, like, fistly registered weapons? He can't fight me back? All bullshit.

No? No? Yeah. he gonna lay hands on me that's that's kind of nuts why y'all are tripping you gotta turn to home ground be like yo I hope you could run like on three

I don't know about that look I might look I'm from I know myself I can get a bit mouthy you know what I'm saying I might I might like talk my way into a problem you know what I'm saying but I'm not leaving there without a couple couple verbiages I'm like hey know what's wrong with you

I strongly protest to this be respectful nah I mean I might you know I'm saying, you know, my... Man, let me tell you something. Let me talk something crazy, you know, but... In a day, I'm getting out of there. Let me tell you what's going to happen. I'm going to go get the white man for Francis and Ghanu so fast.

Defund the police, but... Not at that point. Here's what I'll say. Officer, officer, he went that way. Here's a thing. If it's a white woman, though, they don't like violence like that. So, you know what I'm saying? And so it's kind of just like, a white girl has told me, she's just like,

no, there's no need for violence. And I'm like, hey, yeah, I'm going to tell you, sometimes a motherfucking needs to get, like, knock the fuck out. Like, I don't, like, I don't know what to tell you. That's crazy, Charles. You'd rather, if she's telling you to back down, you'll just be like, no, no, no, I'm going to get beat up. Oh, whoa.

Yo, Ashati don't have to tell me to back down. I'm a lover, not a fighter. You know what I mean? Like, come on. I'm a podcaster. I'm not lasting that long in a fight. I might get one. one in, but after that I'm booked.

Now, look, now, if I have to fight Francis Gondon, you just go for the knees and then whatever. But what I'm just saying is like, in Baton Rouge, we had a way that we would play this. It would be like, in Baton Rouge, I have one home board that was good for this, right? That was good for this. He would, like, he would literally do something,

and he would go, we got to move on after this. This has been a nice little tangent. But he would literally go, hey, bro, what y'all doing? I'd be like, I'm chilling, bro. Hey, man, meet me up at the movies real quick. We got some shit going on. I got some girls up there.

And we'd be like, oh, shit. Okay. Hey, who got a car? Let's go up to Tesseltown real quick. Let's meet up up in Tiseltown real quick. You got some girls up there and say, what you call it up there? And I'll like, whatever.

We get there and he'd be like, yeah. Uh-huh. I'm like, what? I'm like, man, where the girls at? There ain't no girls, man. This nigga been talking shit. What? He got you.

Yeah, he got you. Yeah. He got you. What out of here? He's like, yeah. He was like, hey, bro. Hey, bro, the movie get out. 15 minutes, these niggas was talking shit, bro.

Hey, you're with me, you, you, you're going going to fight with me, huh? I'm like, I mean, yeah, bro. What? You know, that's not what you said, though. Like, what? I'll say, there it go, there it go. And now it's on. Happened several times. That is a genius.

Never went anywhere. He would be like, he'd be like, hey, bro. Hey, bro, man, it's popping up at Don Carter's, bro. We have the bowling alley, man. It's every girl's from Bel Air, girls from Scott. Schallonville. Everybody up, man. It's popping. It's to come up. Hey, I'm not coming to the bowling alley to fight.

It better be some girls up there when I get them. Before we move on, how many times did you fall for the same shit? He got us a couple times. I'm not going to bullshit. If it happened more than twice, I'm going to be really mad. It happened way more than twice. God damn. Shame on, shame on you.

Fool me twice? Come on, bro. No, you got us. He got us. It's still more of my dogs to this day. But we always talk about it. It's like, even now, even now, hey man, I ain't seen you in a long time,

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What did you think about that storyline there with Alan? What did you guys think? I liked it. I think what was cool to me was just seeing Peter Cullen as Thaddeus. like hearing Optimus Prime, you know, was just kind of like awesome, honestly. Like, I love every second. Shout out to Peter Collins. He's great.

It's, I'm just, again, you clearly get him because you want Optimus Prime and nothing else. It's not like limited range, but a great range. I mean, I mean, I mean, look, he old, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, I'm sure like Peter Cullen back in his heyday, bro, was going nuts with the range. You feel me? Today. It's not really. It's Optus Prime or best.

Sure. Yeah. Right. And so, like, he's basically doing that. But that's fine by me. I love Optimus Prime. And, you know, Thaddeus as a character, you know, we're going to probably see a lot more of them in the future. Like the-

Whoa, spoiler. Swahler. Jummi. Spoiler territory. Come on. Oh, no, man. They introduce a character. Oh, oh, we hope we see him again.

Mm-hmm. I do with what's interesting to me is the fact that it kind of ends on a cliffhanger, right? he's like, he takes whatever cocoon Allen's in, he takes the dial to zero, it seems like. And he's like, sorry, buddy. Turn it off my support, whatever. Yeah, the credits roll, I like, I was like, I'm watching. I'm like, wait, I'm going to be like 20 minutes.

It's like, I'm going to be halfway through the show. I genuinely get annoyed when it did that because I'm just like, wait, what? The episode is only 20 minutes. And like, it's one credit block just to be like, oh, we still have half the episode to go. I'm like, why would you, why would you do that? Half the episode is after credits, that's crazy. Yeah, like, that's stupid. Can I ask a very important question

that I was thinking about? So Mark and Amber have this whole conversation before they have sex. Who is the most dangerous hero to have, like, sex with in terms of like, oh shit, their powers are going to malfunction? Van, that's all you. I don't know, man.

You know, what Superman was able to control it? I think it's pretty good. You don't think the thing is a problem? Oh, I don't think. think the thing has that to worry about. Interesting. What? Please don't elaborate.

Don't elaborate. Don't finish that thought, Van. Please don't elaborate. I don't think the thing. I think part of the thing's whole deal for one to turn back into a regular guy is that the thing can't fuck, bro. No, I think she hulk and him could like. Nah, dog. The thing has a jagged rock penis.

It's not smooth. And so because of that, it's just not going to happen. I mean, the thing has a worry. He could go to like a stone mason, sand it down, so there's no rough edges. It's just one smooth. That might work. The question is, is that painful? You know?

For him? Is that painful for the thing? And is there any anesthetic that he could use? By the way, just let you guys know, we're recording this podcast at night, which is why things are happening. So, so, I mean, I'm just letting you guys. It's 9.30 on the east coast right now. I'm just letting you guys know. That's why it's happening.

I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't think about it. think it would be more somebody that could like turn into fire. You know, like that might lose like Johnny Storm or something. Yeah. Johnny Storm. Yeah, but you can't.

You know what I mean? He can't, but don't say the trigger word. Yeah, you, things happen. You can't control it. If Ice Man sneezes wrong, that's. Ooh. Nah, Ice Man probably could. Ice Man's probably okay.

I mean, conodically, the answer is Spider-Man. Why would it Spider-Man do? Oh, conodically, yes. He killed Mary Jane. Oh, yeah, with his radioactive sperm. I hate that story so much, bro. It's a bad story. It's a bad story.

very clear. It's terrible. Oh, yeah. Didn't even do it. I mean, that makes sense, though. I mean, you, any rioting... Does it? Does it?

It does not make sense. Although, if you do think about it, like, if you're being real, like, a lot of these got, like, characters that got their powers, like, radioactive or, like, stuff that would normally kill people. And, like, Marvel is dumb, but, like, that was... If that happened in the boys, he'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, it...

Oh, yeah. I mean, the dude is him... Hulk, all of these people, they're walking radioactive waste. Like, people should be getting sick. It's like, whatever. All right, well, you know, you guys, the reality is this.

Invincible is humming along. I'm really enjoying the show. I do agree that it was probably a mistake to release the show in two different four-episode tranches. Now, am I right about this? Is the second group four, or is it 10 episodes? It is another four.

It is another four. It is another four. So it probably is a little disjointed doing this way, although I will say this. Introducing Omni Man at the end of this episode sets up episode four to really strengthen, solidify, and crystallize the direction of the last four. I really think this next episode is going to, litigate and relitigate

the sheer ethos or the central should I say ethos and purpose of the show which is Mark

wrestling with his powers with his parentage with his destiny and figuring out how you do it

as a hero knowing what he knows now I think that's going to be a point you know that that's going to be here along with what

they've established with Alan, him getting better, what's going on with the Belcher Mites, who the mole is, all of that stuff. I think there's some good stuff there. I think we'd think a little bit differently about it if we did know that there was one more episode than we had to wait.

Are we ready to draft? Let's do it. I think we are. Chuck, take it away. All right. Welcome to the Teenage Hero Draft, a.k.a. the pluck draft in honor of Amman Volani standout performance

in the Marvels and the return of Invincible The Midnight Boys are drafting their favorite teenage heroes across fandom. The rules are simple. All drafted heroes must be between the ages of 13 and 19. Any hero across all fandoms count. Humans only. No animals. We go and snake order draft.

Steve, let the people know the order of this draft. All right. So Arjuna is not here. So I'm going to take a random number generator. And I'm going to figure out what we've got. So are you drafting? Yeah, I'm drafting. Huh.

Interesting. Do we don't have anybody. There's nobody else on the call. There's nobody else here to do it. You want to get Kalika to do it? Caleak is not even here. Bozeman could do it. Boseman determined the draftor.

If Bozman did, if Bozeman did the random, uh, the random thing, it would be joamy, joamy, joey, joey. Yeah. Jump on joey. Here's the thing. Bozeman got me last time. Oh, it was so crazy. Like, Bozeman, like I was.

I felt like a dummy bro. I was like, oh, we're making a connection. Nah. That's right. No, he does. Bozeman actually, so here's the, I just say this real quick as an aside. Steve doesn't like Bozeman that much.

What are you talking about? I love Bozeman. That's a lie. You're lying. You don't fuck with Bozman like that. No, stop. Steve doesn't like Boseman that much. I'm not letting that lie.

I'm not like that's a lie. Bozman is a handful. That's a lie. Jomi shows Charles. tried to show patience with Bozeman and be like, hey, Bozeman, no more throwing it. Then Bozman put the paw out. And he broke Charles.

I was like, God damn, Bozeman, okay. Okay, well, Steve, generate it. Generate the entire situation. Generated. All right. Dog hater. Van is number one. Charles is number two.

Jomi is number three. Interesting. I laugh for it. All right. So it's my turn. Ha-ha. Guess what? I won.

Draft over. all of you fucking pack it up, go home, fuck you, it's over. I win Spider-Man. Right, right. Spider-Man is the number one choice. Ha-ha. Fuck you guys. I got the number one pick.

The greatest teenage superhero of all time. It's not even close. It's a joke. The rest of everyone that you draft is like an off-brand nigger. Peter Parker, by the way, not Miles Morales. I'm not even going for the diversity

inclusion, Spider-Man. Yo! I'm going for... Wow. Come on, bro. I'm going for the number ones. I'm nerd-rotic.

I say all the wrong things. Spider-Man is my first pick. The quintessential teenage hero. The archetype of the teenage hero. That's it. Spider-Man. Pluck teenage power. It's over.

I'm going for the real archetype of teenage hero. heroes with who none of this would be possible. Yeah. The main man always down to ride we going with Robin the fucking boy wonder, okay?

Which one? Which Robin? Which Robin? We got to go decreasing. We got to go OCHI. We got to go Decreason. Now, we also have to make a rule. Can people draft other Robbins? That's an interesting question. Or all Robbins, because I think all robin should be taken off the... I kind of agree. I would

agree as well. Yeah, Jomey, because Jomey, Jomey doesn't like, I think all robin should be out of the deal. I mean, it's like a two-person draft. You took, uh, you'd like, you know, you took, uh, what's his name, J. J. J. Barrett and in Zion. And now we got like R.J. Barrett out here. We got a lot of good people. We got a lot of people on the board. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, we're, we're fine, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a lot of game left for sure, but it's tough.

Y'all not real drafters like that. I don't want to hear that shit. Y'all not real drafter. My list is deep, but I understand when people look at the graphic and they go, oh, you got, they got Robin. Now I got to vote for Robin. Now I got to vote for Spider-Man. Like, you know what I'm saying? I can fill up my list with however many people I could go, like, I go crazy on his Jeff. But like, people see Robin, they see Spider-Man, it's over.

Let me say something to Charles real quick. Let me say something to Charles real quick. Robin is a mantle. I could make an argument that, and I hope I'm not taking anybody's pick off the boy. I'm going to pick somebody I know nobody's going to draft because if you draft this version of Robin, you're an idiot.

Like if somebody wanted to say, okay, as a hero, I want to pick Jason Todd. I would agree with that. The only reason I'm saying we shouldn't pick any other Robbins is because in past drafts, we have been very, very clear that once you pick one version of the character,

all versions of the character are off the board, even if you're really into the comic book lore, to your point, Jason Todd, Damien, Wayne, all of these people are their own characters. I would argue that, like, if I was drafting with my heart, at this point, I find Damien Wayne more entertaining than Dick Grayson,

even if, like, Dick Grayson is the only choice you can really pick in a draft. Well, you've essentially argued this out of it because you've named all of the other characters and throwing them into the goddamn draft clip. So you went. Jomi, you're up. Oh, man.

Yeah, again, like I said, two, you know, really good picks off the board already. Kind of ruined my whole flow, my whole thing. But it's okay because you already know. Where Charles started, I'm going. We're keeping it with a member of the Teen Titans. One of O-Gs. One of the goats.

I'm going, I'm going, I'm going with Raven. Knewit. You loved the big titty goth girls. I fucking knew it, Joe, me. Milk addition. Milk edition going crazy this episode. I'm, I'm kind of shocked, Jomey. Honestly.

Look, you know what I'm seeing? I'll just keep it in a theme. Again, like, I'm just going to drive from my heart at this point because if I drive from my brain, it's over. It's over. So, you know, we rocking with Raven. Let's go. Do you think you would have a better relationship, Jomey,

with Starfire or Raven? Like, who's going in the distance? It's not even close. It's Raven. I think you're too positive for it. Wait, no. She did Beast Boy. And Beast Boy is a ray of sunshine.

You need the balance there. You need the balance. It's like, me and Starfire, it's way too much. Like, me and Starfire, she'd be like, yo, we're trying to go on a hike. I'm like, it's 6 a.m. She does running Canyon every.

weekend. Yeah. Like, I'm trying to, like, you know, Michigan, play Ohio State at noon. But I had to be there. The problem is, though, is that your parents are super duper religious and her dad is like the devil. Oh, yeah. We would have to, like, you know, really like go.

We'd have to, like, talk about it. You know, you'd have to be like real life. Would the Nigerians at your church start placing hands on Raven? The minute she gets in there. Can you start putting a noise to go to church with us? Raven come in there. They just hit no. with,

get feedback. You know, can you imagine Raven, like dancing to some Kirk Franklin or some shit? That should be

hilarious. What, did, turn my life up, Brown, GP, oh you, put your hands in the hair.

What are you see? I got that you see. You make you stop. Shout! Hey. Hey, come on. Ha.

How. Can you want to stop. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Ha. Kurt Franklin. What are your thoughts on, Franklin?

Franklin, Steve. Many, many. Do you know what Kirk Franklin is? Yes, I know what Kirk Franklin is. You just say, Steve, name one of Kurt Frankl's off. That's not stung. That's not stop. Okay, well, then it was going to be some.

What's the one? Just one, just one. What's the one where Kurt Franklin is dressed up in like the boxing outfit? What's the one? Have you guys seen it? Oh, fuck. What's the one where he's dressed up in the boxing outfit? Kurt Franklin boxing outfit.

Kirk was getting it. Kirk was. Wait, was, was sorry. Was Kirk the singer? who was like, I think he went on like Oprah Declaration. That was a day. Yeah, he had to throw his porn collection in the dumpster.

Yeah, he was addicted to porn, man. Kirk is a good guy though. No, Kirk. No, I'm not making fun. Like, I just remember that vividly as a kid because I was just like, damn. Back then, you didn't have like the internet, you know? Mm-hmm.

Kirk, I mean, Kirk, Kirk was having problems and he was letting people know that he was watching too much of it. And he had to get rid of it. I could relate. So shout out to Kirk. I've done with that same thing. Okay, moving on. Steve, you got two picks.

All right, I got two picks. Again, like slim pickings, but again, we're picking with the heart here. I'm going to go with probably one of the greatest character arcs in history going from Prissy shitheel prince to one of the heroes of the Fire Nation. Prince Zuko will be my first pick. We ain't even being serious in this trap, bro. What's talking about? Sorry, man.

Come on. I get it. You know what? It's a bit now. Ang's a big. You do you, Steve. Ang's too young. All those kids.

Guitar is too young. Wait, you can't pick Ang? Eng's 12. Well, yeah. By the end of the, wait, whoa, by the end of the series, he's 13. I'm doing with what we start with. No, you can pick Ang if you want. Pick Ang, bro.

I don't want to pick Ang. Well, you know, I picked Zucco. I don't know. Pizuco. Man, y' all you all right. You know what? I've, I've, I'm doing. I didn't pick Ang because he was 12 when he started the thing.

Steve, next pick. We got Raphael from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Nice. Wait, are you just, so all Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are now taken off. No, see, now it's different. See, I think you should have to draft all the turtles. I think you should draft them all. Okay.

I mean, happily, I will happily take all of the Teenage. Yes. Just to let you guys know, the fact that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are still on the draft board. is fucking shocking. I thought about. I just going to pick his PMNT.

I got to be honest with you. I'm not a teenage mean Ninja Turtles guy. Man. You, wow. You had the turtles are still one day. The fact that you, the fact that you fucking drafted

Danny Zuko or whoever that is. Danny Zucco. Before you drafted the turtles, the fact that the turtles sit there is crazy, craziness. We got all the turtles now. All right. All the turtles.

My turn. I'm actually glad that you guys said we could draft this character. because I was worried about his age, but since Aang ended the season, this year's of 13, I'm taking A. Let's go. That's,

let's go. He's on the razor thin technicality. Raised thin technicality. He was on my board, but I did the same math. Steve did it. I was like, ah, he's 12.

You know what I'm saying? I didn't ask before, so I didn't know. But we did, we talked about it. So I'm going to take Ang. That's my guy, you know. You know, hey, that trailer that show came out.

You know, we're going to see. What happens? It could be great. Who knows? Do you really have? faith, Joe? I have... Not hype level.

I need faith level. I need faith level. So my faith level, the same level of faith I saw in Cam Reddish when the season, when the preseason. I'm watching the trailer the same way I watch preseason. I'm like, get this guy out of here. I don't want to see him on my floor. Like, if he has to run minutes for this team, we've lost.

The season is over. And now, like, I'm like, yo, man. Like, let Cam Ridish play like 24, 30 minutes a night. You know? So hopefully I get the same, it's the same thing. When the show come on, I'm like, hey, let's go. I'm locked in, you know? So what are you going to see?

But it's the same way I thought about camera at it should begin a season. That's all I'm going to say. All right. Y'all really, I have to do it. He's been carrying this geriatric old motherfucker for years at this point. Part of the best game, the best part of one of the best games of the year. One of the best movies, I got to go Miles Morales, Spider-Man. Wait, wait.

I thought we were taking Spider-Man off. No, Miles is different. Miles is different than the Robbins. He's different. No, no, no, no, no. He has his own movie. No. He has his own movie.

It's different. Jason, Todd, and Damon Wayne don't got the own movies? Like, you're not serious. I want you guys to take the draft series. Because these are all bits that are being played. Charles, you know you can't do that. It's too much. It's too much.

You can't have Miles Morales. Yeah. You can't have Miles Morales. Pick it again. You can't have Miles Morales. No, you did it to yourself. All right. You know what?

That's fine. That's fine. You know what? Then I'm picking one of the greatest heroes in pop culture. I'm surprised that this person is still on the board. Surprise. I'm going with Luke Skywalker, baby. Oh, shit. I believe he's 19. New Hope just makes the cut off. Is it crazy that I didn't even think of Luke Skywalker? It's a good one. It's a good one. Very good one. But now all Skywalker's are taken off the board, thank you. Jesus. All Skywalker including Ray Skywalker. All Luke Skywalker's

are taken off the ball. How could all Skywalker's? Because y'all motherfuckers are trying to play with my mom. Oh, you're not serious. Charles. Okay. Is it my turn?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Please. Okay. Do I have two picks? You do. You have two picks.

Okay. So I'm going to go ahead and draft Invincible. Okay. There you go. There's nobody's going to draft them. I'm going to take Invincible. One of the people. that inspired this draft.

It's going to be funny when Miss Marvel doesn't get drafted. And we're going to have to play. Again, a lot of game left, man. A lot of game left, bro. I'm just saying. I'm just putting it out there. I'm putting it out there. All right.

So I'm going to draft Invincible. Love Mark has his own show. It's coming. It's coming for you guys. Okay? Fincible. I'm going to draft Invincible. It's amazing.

All right. I have. another pick. Yes. That's where it gets tough. And this is my last pick. No, no, no, no. You got one more.

You got one more after this. You just got to pick this one. You just got to pick this one. And then you get another one. This person is going to be still there. So I'm going to go with my heart here. I'm going to choose Kate Bishop. Is Kate Bishop a teenager?

Kate Bishop is a teen? In the MCU, she's in her 20s, but Kate Bishop has been a teenager. I think Cape Bishop counts. Yeah, Bishop absolutely counts. Yes. I'm going to draft Kate Bishop. The mistress of quarter flip.

I have to take her. She's fantastic. She had a great show. My team is rounding out very nicely. I will add Kate Bishop to it. That's it. It's over. Kate Bishop.

Charles. All right. This is the part of the draft that separates the we from the chat, the boys from the men. Hmm. You know what? It's a little bit of a sausage factory in here.

So I'm going deep in my pocket. I am choosing probably the most badass woman. that can be chosen in this draft, I got to get Buffy the Vampire Slayer out of here. Ooh. Wow. Good pick. That's a good.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That's a Joe-sponsored pick right there. There you go. That's a good one. That's an inspired pick, Charles. Come on. I had to go in my bag because I'm not letting them play a fucking Charles Hades Women's Day after this track.

That's an inspired pick right there. I'll buffet the vampire slayer. I love her. I love the show. Kalika watches the show. show sometimes. That shit's scary to me. You know who I like? I like Spike. I was going to ask, I'm going to an angel or a spike. What's it? Spike all day. Spike, man. Spike, I like Spike. And he like, Angel sucks, bro. Like, really, bro. No, he's got a fun in his own show.

He's like, he's like less like, but. Oh, man. Spike, spike came into the house and it was sunny out and he had the, uh, he had the, uh, the carpet over him. So he wouldn't get burned by the son. and he was just getting burnt. Spike is funny, bro. Spike better than Angel. I don't care what y'all said. He just suck, bro. Patting himself.

I don't like David Boreannis guy. I don't fuck with him. Yo, put some respect on my man's name, bro. Come on. I don't like bones. I don't like that shit. All right. Who's next?

It's me next. I'm not going to hold you. Van, I thought Kay Bishop would be here at 11th. Just take Miss Marvel. Come on. You know, yeah, I'm going to Miss Marvel. Wow. There you go.

I thought, yeah, no, I thought Kate Bishop will be here. Oh, wait, whoa, should we play the pander button? Do we have a pander button? Well, no, clearly, no, it's not pandering. No, no, no, I'm saying we started off a pander session. Oh, yeah. Where it's like, Van was like, I'm going with Kate Bishop, and everybody's like, all right, yeah, I need to get a woman on a board, too.

I went to put the bandar. My first pick was a woman, so I don't know what you're saying. Raivik, true, true. Yeah, so, no, but like, I thought Kay Bishop would be here, about the plan, didn't work. out for me. So got to go with her soon to be partner in crime, hopefully. And whenever the younger vagers come out,

I'm taking Miss Marvel right here. Why you acting like the brown superhero who stole the movie is a lesser pick than white woman Kate Bishop? So here's the thing, right? There's established lore on this podcast, right? That I'm a fan of Kate Bishop.

Haley Steyfield. Tough week for me and Josh Allen. Right. Just, just terrible. okay right and so i'm like wow you know k bishop i'm hoping she falls me a third it's not there who else is a great pick the home girl she was just in the movie with last week you know what i'm saying it's right there don't try to put your agendas on me brother i'm here don't all right damn all right i'm gonna get me you fucking told me jomi steve you got two picks i got two great picks coming rebound. All right. I'm coming back around to the world of the last airbender, and I'm taking

Katara. Oh, boy. Second, second avatar. What the fuck? What are you so mad about? I'm not. Take this seriously, bro. What are you mad? I'm not mad. What are you mad? What are you mad? What are you mad about? What are you mad about? What are you mad about? I'm not mad, bro. I'm not mad. It's just, it's, it's, I want to drop for when there's a bit. Because this is a bit now. We're in big territory. We're in bit territory.

It's a bit. So you're going to draft the whole cast. Oh, you have a lot of time. Yo, you eight bit almond right now. God damn. Eight bit on. Then you're going to be really mad at my next pick then. Okay.

Give it. Because I really liked it when my sister watched the show and it was like the first, like, anime that we ever bonded over. The robot from special delivery. No, I'm taking Sailor Moon. Oh, that's a good thing. Everybody check out text messages. No!

No! No! No! We've done this before! No! God damn! It's a lot of different Sailor Moon content on the internet. That's all I'm saying. Have you ever watched

a non-lewd version of Sailor Moon there. I don't really even know what Sailor Moon is, guys. God damn it. Jesus Christ. I'll be honest. The Moon is like legitimately one of the best animas ever. Sailor Moon is so dope. I get it, guys.

Ceremony is the best. I get it. No, you don't. No, you don't. I never saw that shit before. Hey, bro, look, I'll tell you all something right now. Okay. Fuck Sailor Moon, bro. That's why I got to tell you. What? I know, I never saw it.

I'm behind on the anime. Like, I'm not, you guys. I guarantee you. When Charles gets here, I promised all the fans of the Midnight Boys this. Okay. Seriously. When Charles gets here,

when I hear I mean to Los Angeles, when Charles gets here, we're going to have like anime Wednesdays or something like that. Whenever Charles can do it, we're going to come over here, we're going to fire up the one piece, and we're going to continue to try to search for it where nobody will ever find it.

Hell, fucking, I mean, to be fair, Van, I'm trying to leave my anime tendencies in New York. You know, I don't want to get into scaring the hose territory out in L.A. I got to start fresh. Nah, you're missing it. I got a stab. Bro. Let me tell you something about, let me tell you something.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Anime is for everybody. Charles. Whoa, the hose are, are gender neutral, okay? Let me tell you so. Let me tell you a second. Anime, anime, for a lot of girls out here is the new I follow sports. I'm not co-signing.

I can't condone. I can't condone this one. I am just saying. I do not. I do not. There used to be a guy, there used to be a white guy who would come up to you as a black person be like, yo, I really like that most deaf. Y'all heard of Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks? Like, there would be a whole white guy who would like try to quiz you on like fucking like out there fucking rap.

And I'll be like, dog, chill. So I get what Van is saying, even if I can't go sign it. I just picked Sailor Moon. All right. That's my pick. I'm telling you. Some people go, hey, I love anime. Tell me about Google Guaiju, like whatever.

All you are. All you guys are. Jiu Jiu Jitsu Kaysen? I knew he was trying to say Jiu Jitsu Kaysen. All you guys are you how you saying. Wait, were you trying to say Jiu Jitsu Kaysen? Is it Jiu Jitsu Kaysen? Yes.

Like, okay. I knew you were trying to say Jiu Jizu Kaysen when you just said whatever the hell you just said. Like I'm telling you. Wait, how did you feel like, do you know what Jitsu Kaisen? No, but I heard like I think Van's gonna fuck with Jiu Jitsu Kaysen. Charles, you've got to... I've been hearing y'all talk.

Look, I get... I'm... Because we're in this realm, this era, I get, like, residual anime knowledge of, you know, Evangeline Lilly, Google Kaijin, and all of these different things that y'all just kind of talk about. And so I get it. What was the one that you were just watching, the Blue Eye guy?

Blue Eye Samurai? Blue Is that an anime? No, it's Western. It's Western. But let me tell you something. We're going to talk about it. Like, I'm not going to spoil, no episodes or nothing. We're going to talk about it on the feed eventually.

That show is special. It is special. I can't trust you to see me anymore. I'm going to watch it, but I can't try it. Come on. Come on. Make your pick. Make your favorite.

I want to pick Batman. Pick and Terry McGinnis. All right. All right. I'm surprised Steve didn't take Batman beyond. It felt, it felt fraudulent to me, honestly. Wait, why? I love Batman Beyond

Batman Beyond's awesome I just like When I When I inherently think teenage heroes Like that Batman never struck me as a teenage hero And I'm not saying that like Terry McGinnis is like an Illegimate Batman or something like that

But like whenever I'm saying he's a illegitimate Batman A little bit you're saying Maybe I kind of am But like I feel like the sentiment around Like what makes Batman work for me Is the fact that it is like an adult man Not working for me

There was nothing about Robert Pattinson's Batman. I never said, I never said that Robert Patton. Steve, can you unpack this lord of load of malarkey that you're talking about right now? Are you just mad because you drafted Qatar? You didn't pick Terry McGinnis? No, I didn't. It's half I didn't think to draft him. I knew it.

I legitimately never thought of that. All right My last pick There is someone who's left on the board But their creator is so problematic I'm not even going close there No no no no no I'm not torpedoing my old fucking draft

We know who it is Fuck out of here No no no no no I don't rock with that side Fuck it I'm going with my heart The future king of the fucking pirates bro. Luffy and fucking self.

Man, man, I don't know. What is this? What is this from? One piece. One piece. Okay. Wait, I can't pick Luffy? No, you can.

You definitely can. Anime, manga, Luffy, not that live action joint. Like, no diss at that. Did you hate that live action or no? I feel like you didn't. I didn't hate it, but I just, it was like, it's fine. Was it, was it one of the best tries for live action? It was a nice try.

I'll give it that. What's the best live action anime adaptation? There's not one. I would say like the Matrix. Like the Matrix is the closest who we've gotten. There's got to be one, bro. Did you see the first Rony Kenshin live action movie?

No. Come on. It's pretty good. I liked it. I liked it a lot. All right, Van. You got one more. One more.

Kick ass. Oh. Okay. Got a hit girl? Nah, man. What old is hit girl? Hit Girl is, she's a teenager too. I'm drafting kick-ass, because kick-ass is kind of like,

there's a little redundancy, kick-ass and invincible, you know, but it's kind of like the same thing, but I loved kick-ass so much. It was such a breath of fresh air. I'm going with, I'm a fucking kick-ass. Uh, daddy. Ahead of its time, honestly, because I think that, like, that first movie came out, like, early and, MCU hype and did not

it like just didn't catch on enough to make a full franchise push. I think it had two movies though. It had it had a sequel. No, I mean there was two. There was kickass and there was kickass too. It caught on as much as it should have. I did not like that comic at all. I'm beautiful. You weren't fucking with kick ass like that?

Not really. Not. You rather search for the One Piece? One Piece is better than any comic book ever made. I'll take it over Superman or Batman. Like the manga? Yes, absolutely. I would just one-piece manga over any Batman Spider-Man Avengers comic ever.

This is the thing that I've gotten into with One Piece fans because it's literally, like the lore is literally so long. If you read thousands upon thousands of stories like this, you kind of just almost have to say that it's great. Because you just committed so much time. You wasn't talking this way about Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones. Come on now. Don't do that. Don't do that, Steve. Be respectful.

So let me ask you this then. because we've been talking about the One Piece a lot, and I playfully mocked The One Piece. But in a real situation, how long would it take me to get into the life of the One Piece? Reading or I would say as someone who loves it so much, don't. Are you talking about watching it or reading it? Watching it.

I wouldn't watch it, but it would probably take you like a couple months. I legitimately think it's inaccessible now. there are over a thousand episodes. I think it's legitimately and accessible now. Are you supposed to like... It's only for teenagers who have the time. Yeah. So it's a thousand episodes of the One Piece.

Over 1,000 at this point. And one more time. What is the One Piece about? He wants to be the King of the Pirates. Luffy wants to be the King of the Pirates. All these pirates are competing to be King of the Pirates. And to be the King of the Pirates, you have to find the lost treasure,

aka the One Piece. But the big mystery of the whole series is no one knows what the one piece is. Like, it's on an island, and nobody since Goldie Roger, who, like, buried it there knows what it is, but he's dead. Goldie Roger? What the fuck are we talking about, baby?

I can't, well, I'm getting into it. I'm getting into the one piece. Fuck that. Man, y'all can't tell me what's... God bless you. God bless you. You can't tell me what's... You don't know what I have time for.

I just ordered a NeoPixel lightsaber. Why? because I was bored. Look, here's the thing. It's like, I'm like, I just saw how I was like, I've seen it on YouTube. Bro, I'm to that age now where all the YouTube marketing is working it on me. The thing popped up like, it's like, NeoPixel Lightsaber. I'm like, oh, shit, got to have it.

And the shop thing pops up and Kalika goes, ban, what are you doing? I'm like, what? She's like, what is coming from Neo Pixel? And I'm like, it's another lightsaber. These shits are $500, man. not the one I bought. Okay. Seven 50.

What? Wow. What? Again, you guys, you guys forget. We're talking to a third richest man in America right. That's true. That's true. You know how I know.

Money. That's why I love going to Van's house. Van's house is the funest house. Because like, we'll be like, oh, we'll be talking about a game. Like, Kai was over the crib. Jomi was there. We was talking about Mortal Kombat. Van just goes, yeah, buy that shit.

Let's play it. I'm like, oh, word. No, stop acting like the fucking, the game is $50, bro. Shout out to everybody. By the way, hold on. As we make these jokes, I will say,

I've been broke in my life before, and shout out to everybody who doesn't have, you know, this Christmas, maybe the Midnight Boys will buy a bunch of games for people so that they can enjoy them this Christmas or we'll do something for people.

Yeah. Joey, Steve, you Scrooges. What's wrong with you? So it's important to give and Johnny and Steve, we're going to buy some video games for some of our fans. and we're going to buy some stuff for some people.

That was insane. Because, you know what? Because Jomey does this to shame. Y'all. Why would you put a song like that? Jomey had his PlayStation 5 before I had mine. Facts or not. So you bought the shit.

So stop acting like. I know Jomey got bread. Jomey, come on, bro. For Christmas, okay. I guarantee you right now, Jummy, who has no expenses and all that stuff, is doing just fine. And he tries to act like a pauper.

We are not putting anybody's finances on. You know what? You know how Steve is a sactivist? Jomi is a brokivist. He tries to act like he ain't got it to get in his heart. Are you talking about it, bro? Jomi's doing just fucking fine.

So guess what we're going to do. Guess what we're going to do? This is what we're going to do. The Midnight Boys are going to buy video games for some kids or do a toy drive or something. okay we're gonna do something for the community this Christmas midnight toys midnight boys toys we might go to we might make some content of jo-night boys

toys doesn't sound right that it does sound weird but like midnight toys midnight toys doesn't sound good either no it doesn't we'll workshop we might do we might do something we might do a midnight toy drive oh something yeah a midnight toy drive because everybody needs toys and stuff for Christmas and we're going to get Jomey the first $500 worth of toys

is on Jome. Have some shame. Be for real. Be so for real right now, bro. Oh my goodness. I don't know how we got off on the one. Okay, so last thing before we continue

to the draft, if it's not the one piece, I've promised this and I have to follow through with my promise to the fans. Charles, when you get here. Okay. We have to do a separate thing of content where we just,

you have to choose, we have to choose an anime and we have to stick it out. Vaname is back. Vaname is back. That's all I'm saying. Beyond your shit. All right,

let's go over. Let's go over the draft. Van, you have Spider-Man, Invincible, Kate Bishop, kick-ass. I had Robin, Luke Skywalker,

Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Luffy, Jomead, Raven, A, Miss Marvel, and Terry McGinnis, Batman Beyond. Steve had Zuko,

the Teenage, and Ninja Turtles, Katara and Sailor Moon, which might be the most chaotic draft. He's ever had. I can't believe, can't believe Kim Possible went undrafted. Kempark.

Static Shock. Static Shock. I have Static Shock. So these are people on board that went on drafted. Stag shock went undrafted. X-23. Yep.

Ezra Bidger, Ezra Bidger went on drafted. I had Ezra and Luke on the board. Human torch? Human. Ah, see. I see, it depends on which, it depends on which iteration

that Humet Torch you're talking about. No, he was always the teenager of the team, though. Nah, he was the young buck, but they was all like in the fucking military, dog. Yeah. No, Human Torch was like in college. Was he? Like he was 18, 19? Yeah.

I thought he was. So he was her younger brother, but I remember him being like he was in his 20s, but I'll, like, 24, 20, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. So what, which accident count? Kitty pride counts. Jubilee count. Jubilee is a teenager. almost any of the new mutants

I had a lot of the new mutants on here but you know a lot of those characters aren't as well known X-Man there's this Ice Man Yeah technically yeah I think he was I mean all of them debuted as teenagers but Ice Man was always the one where he's like there's a teenage motherfucker Especially because he was paling around

The Spider-Man Firestar A little deep cut but I do feel like To choose an original X-Man at this point When those characters have been adult characters for so long. And I also say this kind of about Spider-Man.

Spider-Man has been an adult character for so long, but there's still a teenage ethos. Every single Spider-Man movie is going to start with him in high school because that's kind of the way that it goes. Yeah. But the X-Men is a little different.

You know, they didn't really gotten some real adult shit, bro. The X-Men, in a lot of ways, the X-Men, it's a soap opera as much as it is a comic book. You know what I'm saying? So I just feel like picking one of them

kind of was like a little weird. I don't know. I don't know. Is there anybody else you guys can think that we left on the board? Ben 10? Y'all wasn't in the Ben 10? Ben 10 was 10, though.

Nah, not Alien Force. He was 16. Ben 10, the K-9 cop? Nope. So he's got this watch. Let us him turn into any type of alien, bro. We got to get you on Ben 10.

We got Naruto. I was almost going to pick him. Oh. Technically, technically Tommy the Green Ranger. Well, yeah, they're teenagers' attitude. Wait, yeah. Oh, hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. I am fucking. debt wrong about Johnny Storm. He was 16 years old. I knew him. Yeah, he was a teenager. That's why he was friends with Spider-Man

in the old comics because they got him wrong. He was 16 years old. What was he doing? 16. Yeah, we did you get out of that. Get out of that spaceship. We'll tell you something right now. All in him.

Straight to CPS. Everybody. Why would you let a 16-year-old get on a fucking space flight with you? A 16-year-old. Everybody. straight to CPS. Sue,

because Sue was his guardian at that point because the parents were dead. Sue, all of them, straight to CPS. Ruined his life. Ruined his life. Wait, how did they ruin it? He's the human torture now.

Nah, man. I mean, I mean, come on, you know, I kind of felt like you got lucky there. You know,

how many times does that happen and you don't get superpowers? If he turned into the thing, that is like, you ruin this game. Yeah, he got the worst, the thing got the worst deal.

Tough. Yeah. Tough. Tough. Tough for the thing. No, Cyborg, no Beast Boy. No,

Starfire. The rest of the Titans were off the board. The kids from Gen V I had on here? Really just the one. Just the one. They're mostly college kids.

He's a freshman. Why don't we pick any of the other popular team heroes like Supergirl, Superboy? And like, are they just not popping like that? Because they suck?

Wow. Honestly. Oh, Captain Marvel. We didn't pick Captain Marvel. Captain Marble what's Shazam. Shazam. Shazam.

Oh, Shazam. Yeah, Shazam. No, that's bullshit. Can't choose him. Billy Batson's a teenage boy. What are you talking about? Billy Batson is a teenager and Billy Batson and he never saved one motherfucker.

He turns into a full one of that man. This is so untrue. By the way, I'm glad we're talking about this. Oh, no. Because if they would have let him be an adult during the movie, maybe it would have been so fucking annoying by the time the second movie came around. Like, it is, is, um, it, uh, but they made him act like a kid in a, in a man's body. I guess he's kind of like that, but not really.

I mean, in the comics, he has the wisdom of Solomon. So he's not acting like a teenager in the comics. That's a new, that's new shit. Yeah, I mean, I think the problem, especially in the second one is that, like, the Zachary Levi version of him is acting like a kid, but like the kid version of him is acting like an adult. So, like, they don't really, like, match up at all. I still ain't seen this movie. Nobody picked that girl. She was on my list.

She was on my list. Let me tell you all something right now. Let me tell you something right now. I've told y'all before that the bad family sucks. You're wrong. You are so wrong. This might be your worst take. This is a terrible.

This might be too. Okay. Let me tell you out something. Here's the thing. When it comes to Hayton, all of you guys are going to come around to Charles's shit. Charles always hate. it's enough to win.

When it comes to being an old... Can we stop with that, please? Factoids. When it comes to being an old-ass man, old-wise, you guys are all going to come around. None of you drafted any bad family people except for one person who really is not in a bad family because he's with Batman. None of you drafted any of them. You guys didn't draft nigger wing.

Y'all didn't drive... Batwing sucks. Bat wings. Like, y'all didn't draft. wing tip, Penguin girl, y'all didn't draft Justice Hawk

or any of the rest of the just making those up. You just figure it like, that's like, that's true. At this point, they'd be having names like that, like Signal.

Like we supposed to care about Signal, like, like the dark bird. Like all it is, all it is, all this, all this, y'all didn't draft

none of these people. Orphid. Like, like, bro, y'all. Orphan. None of them, Barth is a real one.

That's Cassandra Cain's new name. That shit sucks, bro. See, what's Stephanie Browns, Dave? Is it spoiler? Stephanie Brown. What is her name? I think it's spoiler. Night rat.

Any of these people. Like, y'all didn't draft none of them. Though I'm looking at all the Bat family people and the overwhelming majority of them are young. The overwhelming majority of them are young. All on the board. y'all drafted dick gracing the same motherfucker that been ride with

Batman since the 50s that's what you're like that's who y'all drafted wait whoa this is an interesting question this is my last one could we have picked Wally West? Yeah I mean he was on my list yeah yeah I mean he was on my list yeah but would we have I mean would you have had to pick Kid Flash

yeah yes I mean is he the like is he the flash as a teen in any continuity? Yeah so I would like I had Wally, I had like all the young justice. They fucked up, Wally. I'm not going to lie.

Like, they should have never made him black. They just shouldn't have. Lock me in. Why? I just, I don't like when they do the thing where they're just like, hey, instead of creating a dope new black character, we're taking the white motherfucker and we're making it black now because then they had to explain they're like, he's black, but yeah, like, he does got a white, like, oh, and I'm like, all right, this is getting a little weird.

Like, I, like, just make a dope character, bro. You know, can I say something? and this is going to be bad, I don't like when black characters, when their superpower is stuff that black people do really well in real life. Yeah, I don't like that yet. And he's like super fast.

Like they take a black guy and make him jump boy. Or rat man or something like that. I don't like that. Even Luke Cage a little bit? Like a motherfucking kid. Nah, it's too much. It's too much. Because I just know

I just know there was somebody going, what do blacks in Harlem have to worry about getting shot and stabbed. So we'll give him imperishable skin. That way, the rest of the Cretans up there in Harvard land can't get to him. I give them credit for Black Panther. Black Panther was straight. It's good, but even that. Also, electricity powers, I can't, like, there's way too many motherfuckers with electricity

powers that are black. You never see a white motherfucker with electricity powers unless they end the Legion. To me, the thing that would be dope is it. if the powers were counterintuitive to black, right? That's dope. Like, Aquaman. You know, Aqualad is black, right? Aqual lad is black.

Oh, play the music. You laughing too much, Steve. You laughing too much, Steve. He played the drums. Drum it up. Drum it up, Steve. Steve was, I'm going to love to, this was that Chappelle moment where I'm like, then?

Steve was just, Steve was laughing too much. Steve, Steve was still red. Steve was still red. Steve, wait, Steve, let's go. Imagine this black guys and swimming thing. Steve is still right. Look, Steve's losing it.

Steve's dying, you know. Steve finally broke. Steve finally broke. Steve broke, Dave. Steve broke cave. Steve just thought about a black guy just jumping into the water with the Atlantis and just sink

into the bottom. Whoa, to be fair. I am. I am. I am Jalen. King of the Atlantans. Jalen. We're drowning.

We're drowning. Oh, to be fair, they did make, they did make Aqualada nigger. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he is. Yeah. But he does,

I know, but he's a little nigger, right? No, he was the leader of the Young Justice. He was like that chairman of him. He's still a little, bro. He's still a little, bro. He's cool, man.

And that was somebody that was high when they did that. Let's really fuck their heads up. Aqualad. To make him black. Aquat. All right, you guys vote on the draft. That's a wrap.

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Dinner on socials. Hashtag money packs, Joe. Yo. And an additional production from Jomi to Toy Man, Adirang, additional production from a juno Rom Gapal. Charles, take us out. Steve doesn't think black people can swim. Wait a minute.

What the fuck? The teenage superhero drop was a trip. And don't get your ass beat. Just give up the chips. Be-da-la-woo. Michael Phelps will swim fucking circles around aquilat. Aquat. Yeah, we're around.

Oh, wow. This is what happens when we bond too late, bro. Michael Phelps, fuck over Aqualand. Oh, you think you're supposed to be fast? Look at me. Bitch, I'm a human and I actually have web feet. Did y'all know that? Yes.

Michael, Phil. Yes. I knew that in like 2009. Bro, what was God on, bro? Like, Michael Phelps, what, let me ask you a question real quick before we leave. What if there was no swimming? Like, what would be the? the point of Michael Phelps as a human

if swimming didn't exist. I think about stuff like this. What if, what would Kevin around that? In what world is swimming? No, no, like competitive swimming. If there was no competitive swimming. If Michael Phelps could not swim. Oh, he was just a webbed?

I mean, there's humans with webbed appendages who don't swim. But listen to what I'm saying, though. Me and Joe got into this on the fall of the house, Usher podcast and I fucked it up. I did it about thinking about it more. What if basketball didn't exist? Like, Kevin Durant is born to play basketball, right? He's born to score.

But what if there was no basketball? Like, what does Kevin Durant do? I mean, I'm sure there's other things that the brother can do. Like, is he a- No, no. Kevin Durant is a very talented person. I'm sure there's other things he can do. But do you ever think that he would just be sitting around going,

damn, I wish it was a game that relied on me being tall and coordinated and able to drive past and jump over people. That would be dope. Oh, well, back to in and out. You know what I'm saying? It's like, whoa, you don't think there's any, there's any sport out there that Kevin Durant would be good at?

That's not basketball. Maybe track? Probably, there's probably many sports. He's one of the most amazing, fantastic athletes that ever lived. Like, LeBron was a football player. Like, there's a lot of these skills. Yeah, LeBron would have figured it out. But Brown would have figured it out physically.

Like, people talk about Wimby, and I guess Wemby might be this, if you're drawing a basketball player, If you're creating someone to score the ball, that's the guy you create. More than Jordan, more than Kobe, if you're making a physical person to score the basketball, like Kevin Durant is the guy that you would make. So I'm just thinking, wow, that's pretty dope that there's basketball

so that Kevin Durant could score the ball. Anyway, we got to go. This is not, we're not even podcasting anymore. No, this is the best podcast. This is what we do. This is what we do in a house. How do we get from the fucking teenage supermarkets? Superhero tracks.

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