The Ringer-Verse - 'Invincible' Season 3 Finale + 'Novocaine' and Jack Quaid | Mint Edition

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

Today, Steve and Jomi immerse themselves in an epic 'Invincible' Season 3 finale and share their thoughts on Mark’s battle with Conquest, the Invincible War, and much more (07:00)! Later, the guys are joined by Jack Quaid, star of 'Novocaine' and 'The Boys'! The trio discuss the most gruesome scenes in 'Novocaine,' Quaid’s role as Hughie, and more (57:00)! Hosts: Jomi Adeniran and Steve Ahlman Guest: Jack Quaid Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Isaiah Blakely, and Jonathan Kermah Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The once-in-a-while podcast about all the latest fandom that you just can't live without. Jomi, we're doing some living today. We're doing a lot of living. So much living, in fact, that someone say we are out-living. The living. Okay. How did you do that this weekend? This weekend.

Yeah, this is this fast weekend. Oh, man. So all my family's in town for my uncle's 70th birthday. Oh, wow. And we was coming up on the dance floor, man. We was at the photo booth. We was going crazy. So wait a minute, wait a minute.

So you guys ran at a venue? Ran into venue. Okay. You did the money spreads? I did the money spread. I was out there, you know, hey. You know what I'm saying? And then my sister, because, you know, she's in town, so she wanted to hang out.

She was like, bet. Let's go out tonight, right? And so we went out to a spot. You know, and shout out to the fan who recognized me, Paris. You know, shout out, my homie. We was outside. But then I'm like, yo, it's 2 o'clock. I'm fin to go home and get sleep.

Just kidding. It was three. Oh. It was three. Daylight savings got me caught up. How much did you save? I didn't save nothing. I went to bed at like 5 a.m.

Save yourself. It was tough, but I had a good weekend. We was outside. It was good, but I wish I would have slept. And forgive me. This is a family tradition. Doing the money spread, making it. Got to spray the money.

You're... I'm not familiar. No, you're not. No. You're not. Yeah, because, see, y'all not culture like us, you feel me? Okay. Y'all go to your birthdays, y'all eat dry turkey and then go to bed at 8 o'clock.

Okay, first of all, first of all, nothing wrong with going to bed at 8. Okay, but there is something wrong with dry turkey. Take a nice little melatonin. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Where's the chicken? You know, where's the collard greens? I'm not a real good turkey guy. Where's the mac? Because you eat it dry.

That's the problem. I don't eat anything dry. First of all. You eat the turkey dry clearly because some nice, wet, juicy turkey is delicious. Okay. This has nothing to do with money. I don't understand what you're doing with the money spread. We spray you got to show appreciation so you spray a little, you know what I'm saying, get a little, a couple ones.

Span it out? That's how I do it. Fan it out. People like to like, I got the money gun. I'll get the money gun. Well, I'm saving the money gun for my wedding. Oh, okay. When it's my party, we get the money guns.

You'll do a fist in the money gun. Yeah. Well, I can't spray myself with money. That's not how it works. But I will be handing out gold-plated money. guns to all the homies. I better be invited to this. You know, go crazy.

This is a podcast about TV and movies every once in a while. Sometimes. Sometimes. But today we're talking about both. We're talking about a great television. So you might have heard about Invincible. If he's Invincible, why can I see him? Exactly.

It's an underrated joke. Underrated joke. It's funny every single time. Yes. Every single time. We're talking about Invincible. We also have a wonderful guest. Jack Quaid is on the show.

We're talking about Nova Cain, his brand new movie coming out this weekend. We really appreciated him coming on. And we're going to be talking to you about some of our favorite things that happened in Invincible. But before we begin today's show, some programming reminders for you, for your mind. We got on the Ring of First Feed, the Midnight Boys, we're back talking about Daredevil. How are you liking Daredevil so far, Jomey? He's daring and he's a devil, man. It's going good. Yeah?

Yeah. You see the Devil of Hell's Kitchen? Allegedly. Or just, you know, Parkside. Manhattan. Well, we've only seen the suit, right, in the first episode, like that first 15-minute bit, and then they retired it. So, I mean,

if you ever going to put on the Cowl again, who knows? Who knows? We're back with Daredevil coverage, also on the House of Our Feed. The Wonderful Ladies are also talking about Daredevil, Joe and Mel, Mal and Joe. And back on the Yellow Jacket's coverage, they did miss this past week. Don't worry, they're going to be coming back

talking about everything that you missed, and we're going to be catching up later on. on next week. Who is Cave Daddy? Who is Cave Daddy? Is the ultimate question? You know what? Jesus was the original Cave Daddy.

You know what? He rose from the cave. And that's, and that was the great story. Yeah. The gay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't lose you there. I didn't lose you. No, no, no.

I follow because at first I was like, what do you mean by that? But then you brought it back around. We hear you. We hear you. We hear you. Real. All right.

But if you want to keep up to date with everything that we're doing, Jomi, where can we be found? You can find us. at Twitter, at TikTok, at Instagram, and at Facebook, all at the Ring of Verse. We post some stuff there sometimes, and it's really fun, and we like to, you know, make you guys laugh and make you guys have some fun. What was the most favorite thing you made this week? Made this week? I tell you what, people loved the attacking five and protecting five that you did it on Invincible.

Bro, I was so hot, bro, because I really wanted to win, bro. And then it's cooked day one. No, well, because the problem was, right, I didn't get nobody cool in my five. Right. Right. And so when they start getting no cool people on the Defend 5, I'm like, okay, I brought it back. Maybe I can do it. The dragon might have sold me, but I still felt like maybe if it's the right conditions, you know what I'm saying?

The wind's blowing a certain way. You know, it's my day on the field, that type of energy. But once Omni Man showed up, that's curse. It's done. Yeah, he can solo the hole. Honestly, he could go 9v1 and win probably. So it's tough. What can you do ultimately?

Yeah, that's how it goes. Do it we can. Luck of the draw is in our favor today as we talk about the final three episodes of Invincible Season 3. Is it the best season so far? Who's to say? But for right now, let's go to a break. This episode is brought to you by WeatherTech. Everyone knows Winter is the MVP and making a mess.

You don't need WeatherTech floor liners in the sun. summer, unless you hit the beach or go camping, then you'd want a cargo liner or a road trip goes sideways, ketchup goes rogue, ice cream drips. Yeah, you'd be pretty happy about those weather tech seat protectors. So just to be clear as the mud, you're inevitably going to step into the summer. You don't need weather tech unless you plan on doing summer. Visit weathertech.com today. Then we're back. All right. Spoilers for Invincible. Particular spoiler warning here because we've got the comics to talk about everything up to the comics at this point

in the story. So we're only talking about the first three seasons of Invincible in the show and in the comics. We will not be spoiling things that happen after the comics. So anything that might happen to season four or beyond, we will not spoil that for you if you are just a show person. Yes. Some of you might be seeing on social media like, oh, let's speculate who might be playing this certain villain or a certain thing that might be coming up. We're not We're not going to do that. We're not going to do that. Not talking about that. If you care to explore those possibilities on your own time, wonderful.

All power to you. But we're not going to get you here. Just show. Just show. Just show. And comics up to this point. Yes. All right. Jomey. Invincible Season 3, episode 6, 7, and 8. You know, when season three premiered, I was very enthusiastic about the show. I remember going on social. I was like, this season is going to redefine Invisible. If you're not, if you don't, you've not on a train by now.

Right. Stay on that side. What's not going to happen is the season going to come out and it's going to be special. And you're going to be like, oh, I was always back, man. I never, I never gave up, nah. Right. If you're not here with us at the beginning, stay on that side. I would reckon to say, you know, the term we are so back is used, it's thrown around a lot these days.

Here's what I'm going to say. It's actually finally arrived. Brother. We are finally arrived. Brother, y'all can, if y'all was hating, stay on that side. We're here. we're here. The show

it's got the juice it's got the sauce, man. Come on. I knew that the last three episodes are going to mean something, obviously with Powerplexed,

invincible war and conquest coming back to back to back. And all the show has his criticisms. People are always like, oh man, you know,

I looked at Invincible inside, all that nonsense. I knew that the show can rise to the occasion when it's time to deliver. And boy, did it. I think these three episodes in a sequence are probably

the best three episodes of Invincible. I don't know if it's my favorite. I think episode seven and eight kind of go crazy. Back to back. That's a back to back, but they did spread this out and then the season finale is just hit. Well, I mean, I just remember watching episode seven and then calling my

homie immediately like, yo, did you just see that? Like, whatever Omni Man was doing with Cecil, like they kept throwing stuff at him and he kept just like shrugging it off. Like, that's great. And then you have the scene with him and Mark in episode eight, like going, like the entire thing was special. But I think these three episodes re-solidified Invincible as being at the top of its tier in terms of superhero animation in this decade. You mentioned animation and there's frankly too much chatter in my opinion about the quality of the show and how it looks.

It really does have to stop because the hate feels really force. and it actually kind of gets annoying because sure, this is not going to be your like masterpiece Junji Ito level stuff that you're going to be like it's not going to look like Demon Slayer every time.

And I'm sorry, that's okay. It's a bunch of things, right? I think at this point, one, it's a meme, right? Like, people just see the municipal stuff and like, aha, it's fun to make sure of the animation. Let me get clicks. It looks like it's made on Legos, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that whole thing.

And then two, shout out to it. Iffy for pointing this out. If you're notewaterway? Yeah. Yeah. It's my guy. He came back on Twitter after leaving. He was like, I got to say this.

The Invisible Chatter is too much because everybody wants to complain about the animation, but in the same breath, talk about how, like, we want to respect animation workers and make sure that they're doing the right. They're getting, what's the word? Getting done right by them? That's not right. they want to respect animation workers and make sure that the studios are doing right by them.

Yes. Right? And so it's nuts in the same breath to be like, we want this to look like demon slayer or attack on time. And I'm like, do you know how expensive that is first of all? No, brother, forget expensive. The work conditions that be going over there? Yeah, not great.

It's not great. And so we can't have it both ways in the sense of, oh, they need to be putting all this hours and working animation, same time, like, we champion animation workers. Like, it's a different level. And we don't want the show to come out every nine years. Exactly. And at the same time, we have an amazing story to tell here.

Amazing story? Brother, you see the voice. I mean, the voice cast on the show is crazy. Stacked to high heaven. We're going to talk about what Stephen Young did in episode eight. Walton Goggins showing up every six weeks being, like, being mad of Cesar, what works incredibly. Dick is Simmons, nothing else to be said.

I mean, a legend, right? These things don't just happen coincidentally. You don't just like hop into this stuff, right? At the end of the day, you can be mad about the, like, animation quality all you want. Like, it really don't matter after three seasons. Enough is enough, brother. It's that meme of Michael Jackson with the gun. Put the gun down, man.

Put it down. Put it down. It's like enough is enough. Exactly. And you certainly don't want to be missing out on really good storytelling, which, frankly, I will forgive almost anything if it's a good story. visually, I'll forgive anything. Yeah, now, these three episodes lived up to the hype and more.

And by the way, animation, brother, when it was time to get going, they went, they got going. Yeah. But it was time to make it happen. They made it happen. So I just can't imagine why somebody would still be upset about this stuff. Again, 50 billion years after the war is over, man. This show is handling business. And I am so glad that it defied it.

expectations because people were talking crazy about a municipal dog. People were talking nasty work. Look at my guy now. Y'all didn't believe and he did the thing. Come on. Last broad thoughts before we get into the specifics. I cannot emphasize enough how

much of a radical shit. Like the way that we talked about season two, you'd have thought that we were in the gutter, but really it was just a slowing down. It was not terrible by any means. There's no mode. It's like, you know, you come out first half. Okay, cool. Then they have the Super Bowl halftime show.

Like, yeah, all right. It's 90 freaking minutes. And now you come out for the second half. And he didn't even sing swimming pools. Right? And you come out for the second half and there's no juice. There's no sauce. There's no energy.

Right? That's the problem. I think the break really hurt Invincible Season 2 more than anything, right? I think they don't take the break. It's still like a, again, I thought it was, I think I'm raised like 8 out of 10. That was a really solid season. Probably like a nine for me if we don't take the break. but it was still enjoyable television.

Solid, yeah. And this season, with the storylines, elevated on every, on every single level. I had an absolute bad watching the season, and I just cannot wait to talk about the specifics because, oh, boy, do things happen. They took every single note that you could possibly have

from season two, and then they fixed it. So I have nearly no complaints. All right, so let's get into the mix here. Powerplex. Did it work? How did this work for you? Aaron Paul, man. They used to get me to talk about the voice cast.

Aaron Paul was doing his thing. I don't know if this is my favorite title card bit, but when he keeps mentioning invincible and it cuts to the... And I want to get... And then, like, that was a bunch of fun. I think Powerplex is an idiot for, like, multiple reasons. No, yeah. But, like, we can, like, we can really break it down

because all they had to do was like, hey, man, you know what? What you did in Chicago was kind of... crazy, but I'm not going to get my wife and child killed off some anger, because that would be nuts, right? And that scene is like... That's me when I moved to Los Angeles. What? You want to explain that?

No, no, no, no. Please, no, no, please. Well, you didn't Chicago was crazy, but I'm not going to get anybody hurt. No. Jesus Christ, man. Hey, yo! But no. Again, I know his, like, because in the comics, his wife is very much, like,

yo, I'm willing to whatever. Exactly. Let me, let's lock this in, right? You know? And in the show, I think they do an interesting thing where it's kind of the same, but it's a little different where she's, he's kind of like, maybe I'm not good off for this. Maybe it's not where I want to be.

And she's like, nah, brother, go get in the gym. Right. Lock, lock in, brother. There's an amazing thing that the comics of Invincible did. And the show does, to a lesser degree, because only you don't have a thousand pages. And it's to a degree that, like, the, The idea that all of these things are Superman comps and like Spider-Man comps, you see all of the things that are like

supposed to be those recognizable superhero tropes that we all know and love. The world of Invincible is immediately established as not only as dramatically rich, as like iconographly recognizable, if that makes sense. But all of the things that you get completely immersed in are so well told that it kind of washes over you that this is all just like a remix of Marvel and DC and that all of the character drama, all of the world building, all of the things that surround Mark and the invincible brand is just as rich as any comic book universe ever.

And that was so well done in the comics. And it's just as well done in the show. Powerplex is a perfect example of this. I thought that the opening to that episode was, was awesome. You kind of do the Man of Steel, Batman versus Superman thing where in Manistel, you see the fight between Zod and Superman, like from the other perspective, yeah. And then in Batman

for Superman and this episode, you see it from a civilian perspective. And it was, like, imagine you just walked down the street and buildings start exploding. And like, you've got to run for you alive. Uh-huh. And you have no idea what's happening. And then you have this idea of this thing. Just magnificent, right? And you just like, literally see Invincible holding your dead sister and niece. Like it's just, it's nuts. Which I can't, like, I cannot emphasize enough.

Like, I know that all of these things like have kind of echoed through genre pop culture and superhero media. But when Invincible did this back in the day, this came out in like the late 2000s. This was revolutionary to see the aftermath of something like a cataclysmic superhero event told in such a not only mature but emotionally realistic way. Yeah. It was, it was, it was,

it was just honestly awesome to see. Generally like jaw dropping. I thought that the end scene, again, like it's almost one for one with the comics, which is, which is incredible, but seeing his wife and child roasted bodies, like animated.

Grim. Grim. But I mean, it illustrates the point, right? Like, you took, your quest for revenge too far. And again, instead of be like, you know what... You know, I got to check this one up to the game, man. My bad, fam. I would...

Here's the thing. I wouldn't call him an idiot. I would. I would not. You got to take accountability. I get it. Yes, you do need to... And I would say that.

But, like, as far as, like, it's when you have a villain that does not have a point, but you understand exactly why they are the way they are. I mean, he kind of do that point. Like, you don't condone it, but you understand. I don't, well, I mean, he kind of do have a point. Like, hey, man, y'all was wilding. You know what I mean? y'all was doing a lot.

If y'all can, like, curtail that, that'd be cool. But you can't, am I tripper? Because, like, I'm like, you can't kill your family. No. I think after you can't kill your family, you got to take responsibility for your actions. Yeah, I feel like he shouldn't have put them in that predicament. You know, get your get back, however you got to get it,

but there's no reason why they should have been within the vicinity. He in prison, like, I lost my sister, I lost my niece, lost my wife, I lost my son. And who's fault is that? the sister Denise, I understand. You have a point. Your wife and your kid. They should have been there, big dog.

That's on you. That's on you. Like, at that point, you should have just had real hostages. Like, why did you fake them as the hostages to begin with? That just didn't make sense. It's the fact that it wasn't a well-thought-out plan. It was not a well-thought-out. Not a great plan.

No. Not a great plan. The Invincible War. Woo! This was, this might have been, okay, again, we talk too much about, like, the multiverse and variants and all of these things, how does this work still when it's done right? When it's done, again, dramatically and thematically appropriately

for the things that our characters are going through. We just see like hundreds of marks. I want to say like at least dozens that we actually got. We got like moments of. We got 18. We got 18 marks. Yeah. In comics, it's so much. more. In the comics, it's just the 18.

In the comics, it's just the 18? Am I seeing that wrong? Yeah, yeah, it's just the 18. But, and I mentioned it earlier, the work that Stephen Young does in this episode. So good. It's incredible. Each mark has a distinctive voice, a distinctive aura, a distinctive feeling. When the episode opens and Anxham's let all the marks out and they're, you know, going from city to city, find villains and being people love. And you hear Mark go from. I wouldn't let you I would have you be a slave

in my empire I was like hey yo Bill's right mark is crazy When he's like The prison mark He's like I could use you for a warm up I was like yo

I've killed you Like it's just very distinctively Like sinister mark You know the one with the black And yellow cape He's like Best Tiger really Like he doesn't even like

Think that Best Tiger Like what are you doing Were you gonna hit me with some bullets Like for real What? You know Just his work in that episode alone carried, I think, that episode to a level where, like, it was already

exciting enough, seeing all the villains, all the superheroes come together, trying to try and fight, you know, but all the distinctive marks, dude, I miss William. And then the one with the hood is like, I was going to come back and save Mom. And the show's so good In the comics for me Mohawk Mark was tweaked All the way out Yeah yeah yeah

Like he's got that look And the design is like nuts And then Stephen Young plays him perfectly No he's like he's just like Oh you miss mommy well I'm like that's what it tweaked out dude would say And that's the it's so again I I kind of come down on the idea that

Celebrities doing voiceover work Both for like movies and high profile shows it feels like a bit of a stunt so that you have a name attached to the show that also attracts people to watch. Like, oh, so-and-so's in the show. Maybe I'll give it a watch. Chris Pratt is in a Lego movie.

He's a great voice actor, I think. We'll give it a watch. And that kind of has always irked me a little bit because I'm like, there are so many great, amazing voice actors in the industry that do amazing work and character work for,

you know, pennies on the dollar just for the sake of making this they're living. All of that goes out the window when I see Stephen Yun give like 11 out of 10 performances for all of these visually and auditorly distinct marks

that are really fun and really, really well played. And like not to say that like not the rest of this cast isn't stacked and doesn't fit perfectly with this. But this is a good microcosm of the idea that, okay, if you get an actor that's not only as good as Stephen Yun to give us the voices of

our primary character, but let him riff on different ways to be that character that are both enriching and funny and good and fucked up. It's so great. It's so well done. Who's your favorite invisible variant? Viltramite Mark, for sure. The one with the mustache or the one without the mustache? With the mustache. Okay.

Okay. Because I'll tell you what, A, the mustache plays. B. The mustache plays. The nose plays. The nose plays. The mustache plays. It's, it was just such a great, I love a good, like,

old Star Trek twist. I'm just like, I'm evil you with a goatee. Like that, that never is, that's never gonna not work on me. That's always great. Yeah,

mine, it's got to be Mohawk Mark, man. That dude. Mohawk Mark is funny. Brother, he was, again, in the,

in the comic, from his eyes, you know, like that's a crazy person. He's got like, the crazy bags. The crazy eyes, man. And then you go,

you meet him like at the prison. And he's like, oh, you're the opposite mark. Exactly. Oh, this, man. Like, it's mad jokes. Oh, bro. And if we even talk about it,

we got introduced to the goat, right? The goat was in this episode, man. Freaking Techjacket, baby! Ride Eternal, Shiny, and Chrome. I love, man, let me tell you something. I love Tech Jacket. I hope that Tech Jacket, because I was worried that he wasn't going to show up.

I saw some stuff online that had me scared that we were going to get, like, a real Tech Jacket. And so him being in the series, brother, I'm so hype, man. can't wait, bro. Unironically, one of my favorite

characters in the show. I love Techjacket. And he gets how much screen time? Like, he's in the comics for like an arc and a half. Yeah, like,

not even, like, he's in there for like a second. But like, but I had the same time when we had our, when we had our hellboy dupe and I'm like,

this is the coolest dude I've ever seen. He's like a detective, but he's also hellboy and he's also like killing people. Like, and then he disappears for the entire time.

I'm like, I miss you, buddy. Oh, we put a pit in that. Put a pin in that. You might come back to that later. Might come back. We got to talk about it. You know who's not coming back.

No, it's not coming back. Oh, man. And you know it's tough too because... Should we have one of those like memorial airbrush shirts? No, no, no. We need a... Well, we got to put wings on them. Yeah, yeah. We got to put wings on them.

We got to put a halo on his head, even though I don't know if he's going to hell. Or I don't know if he's going to have it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think we do hate... Not a moment of silence. but we need to, you know, have a memorial

for our guy, Rexpload, man. Because... The name is Rexpload, remember it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. They did it first. He did it first. He did it first.

The comics came up first. All right. They must have been so pissed off when they were watching Next Men 97 and be like, shit. God, that was, we... God, damn it. We did that, bro.

So, the credit... It's tough, too, because they were setting us up for that the whole... The whole season, man. It was like... So Rexploads sacrifice in the comics Equally as gorgeous.

Well, equally as meaningful Yes. And gorgeous. But, you know, in the comics, Shicken Ray's a dude. And in the show made him a woman. And they have this, you know, relationship that's bubbling.

You know, he starts being less of a douche. He's counseling Mark about Eve. I mean, he does that in the comics too. But then just, juxtaposed that with him and Ray's growing relationship was just, you know, something, a nice little addict

touch of beauty. And even though I knew that's going to end up in, you know, a big fire explosion, I still felt something. I was like, man, they're really going to, these crazy kids are going to make it, man. And again, it's like, they're saying run play, run play, run play.

I know the play action is coming, right? I know the deep ball is coming. Right? He's going to put it in the pocket, take it out, turn, and just chuck it. I know it's coming, and yet I still fell for it, man. My entire goddamn skeleton house. Like, no!

And then to play Billy Elish after? Just to twist the knife in my chest? Okay, I'm not going to lie. I'll respect to Billy Eich. See, no, I knew you's going to hate. It's just, it's not my generation. I don't, I don't know. Brother, man, she had that one song with the, uh, birds of them feather.

And then bad guy, that was a cool meme. And then she did the James Bond joint. I don't listen to Billy Ilish either like that. But I recognize talent when I see it. I get it. And so when Rex explode exploded and they and it's shrinking right. I know. Here's what I needed.

I need Billy Iish to make a custom song a la Barbie to know what Rex explode was made for. And it was exploding. Man, it got my guy, bro. He went Chris Black. That was, again. He went to a, glowworm.

He didn't got to do white. And then they show his his ashes on the wall. That was real tough.

That was real tough. That's tough. I mean, you save Rudy, you save Monster Girl, have bulletproof get him out of there. Only thing left

there was his goggles, bruh. That's my dude, man. Rest in peace to my guy Rex Blow, man. Like, we didn't like you

coming into it. Uh-huh. But you, you changed, bro. You changed for the better. Manzucas, we need it. We need it post-mortem. We really do.

Man, did we lose Jason Manzucas? Yeah. Oh, man, we can't have nothing. We can't. A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts, Jomey. Well, that's true. That's what, that's what, that's what, that's what. That's what Vision said. That's a vision said to Ultron. Yeah, and that one movie that we all love.

You know, it's incredibly watchable, all right? Incredibly watchful. I didn't say, I didn't say that. Did I disagree with you? I'm just saying, like, if we had to rank all the Avengers movies, that will be last. That's near the low, well, we'll see. All right, all right.

All right. We're not going to get, RJ is dialed in. We're not doing no electric state convoy right now, bro. We are not having that conversation right here. That's a very short conversation.

And you know what really makes me mad? Is that Rex and Ray don't get the happy ending. Ray is dead in the grave. It's the fact that it was a character that was on an arc that was not yet complete. That he's like, that he is like improving as a person. Like, we see him in the beginning of

the season, like trying to set Mark up with Eve, like making him like, like, yeah, you guys are friends. Like, I like seeing you happy. He's like, yo, you know what? I'm going to be a better person. I'm going to do what I can. And he get God and the immortal's still alive. Yeah. That's where I'm, that's where I'm mad at. So you don't, you don't like the immortal. Okay. So, I hear you don't like the immortal. So shout out to no goggles, Invincible. Right. Because he was handling business. He was taking a light. Like that. Like that. scene too because it's like very much like a one for one big actment of Nolan taking out the garden

and it's like the same with the dark wind uh slam some down yeah and he was him mocking shape smith oh no so funny and he was like all right cool immortal i was taking easy on you actually let me actually lock in real quick bagh got him i'm like first of all i was like let's go get this guy out of here bro Again. I mean, every time it just means something to me.

Pack him up again. But the part that that made me the most upset. Right. Which he was like, you know what? Forget it. I'm going to walk away. Me and Kate, we're going to live a happy life together. I was like, yo.

Nope. You? First of all, in order to retire, that means you would have to do something important in your life. Which, as far as I'm concerned, zilch. Right. Nata. Right. You're not walking away from nothing.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's kind of ridiculous. one empty room into another empty room. That's what I'm saying. Congratulations. Like I was for real, what was Kendrick saying? Kendra's like, I hate the way that you talk. I hate the way that you talk. I hate the way that you walk. I hate the way that you.

That's how I feel about the immortal, bro. Any good fits on the immortal? Even with the, even with the long beards, even with the, no. Now, you know what? Yo, Kurt, play a beat man. I got something, bro. All right. I had enough of this dude, bro.

I'm sick, bro. Oh, you got to bump it. I can hear it. Turn me up with the headphones. Turn me up with the headphones, bro. Yeah. I promise you I wasn't. Trying to give y'all a verse, but this dude, the immortal man, he really the worst.

Bottom five alive, he's the worst I ever seen. He think he'd Jew me Neutron, but he really just sheen. Every single season, he stayed getting touched up, it really don't matter. Who is doing the squaring up, he can't be nobody. He ain't safe from the slander. Omni Man, Invincible, can he even be Amber? He really not that dude, he really not that guy, worst leader ever, and he really don't have to try. Yeah, he was linking the emancipation proclamation, but now I'm here to make my own declaration.

Your trash, really nothing else to say If you were to hear it, there's no saving the day I know for a fact you ain't got no fans Yo, Black Samson, is that your man's? Each time I see you, my stomach starts in upheaval So sick at this geezer rather truly have Weasel You not tough man, your skills are medieval Why would Mark show up?

You stay standing behind scene soon In the future they thought you were a god But I know for in the jump you was always a fraud You sewed cheeks, brother's really no comparison I hate you more than mass fans, hey Nicole Harrison On everything I love seeing you dead Getting sliced in half again Smashing the head

Now in line my raps, man You know what's all true Rest of peace my guy Rex It should have been you D immortal sucks The immortal sucks The immortal sucks The immortal sucks

The immortal sucks The immortal sucks The immortal sucks The immortal sucks Listen I tried to get out of my chest real quick Man Oh and duplicate

Guardians of the Globe Don't worry man Y'all next Please Come on I just had to say something, bro. I just had to get it off my chest, bro. I was hot, man.

I was hot. Wow. I wasn't really on beat. I ain't going to lie to y'all, but I did feel something in my chest, bro. I was so mad at this dude, man. How come he get to live happy ever after, bro? And Rex got to die, dog.

After everything, I can't wait to see him die again, bro. I can't wait. I will be there no matter what. That's my number one op. Isn't the greatest thing about an op that can live forever as it means you get to kill him every time? Every time. Because he's showing.

up and add nothing. He don't even like participate in the, in the function properly. Right. He's just really there to die, which I get. That's what characters do. But you can't also be a yapper and be a loser. Pick one. Okay. So Abraham Lincoln, what have you done for me lately is what I'm saying? He freed the slaves and called it today. Y'all got it, champ. You know what I'm saying? Again, I'm a hater. I will always be a hater. Right. I will never not be a Interesting. Okay. I cannot wait to see what I can't wait for him to die again.

I know what's going to happen. I know what's going to happen because he's a loser. That's what losers do. So I had to get out on my chest. I don't know. I'll tell you what, folks. That's lunch. Take a break.

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The immortal comes in, ruins it. A whole bunch of people that look like you come, destroy Earth. Yep. Right? You thought you killed this one bald African-American man

but it turns out you didn't kill him. He's still alive and he torments you and then you actually try to kill him but you don't. And now your whole reputation is ruined.

You got to like build cities back up from scratch and it's just been exhausting. You just been like your brother was in the hospital your girl was in the hospital like everything is bad. And then

you take one breath. I need to relax for one second and you see your biggest op in the sky. Frankly, I would have crashed out. Mark, not only do I condone the behavior, but I understand. It really makes you wonder how much patience Mark has because he just has the worst day every day, it seems.

Imagine, I mean, like PowerPlex and the Invisible War back to back would have killed me. Look it up and see it a dude with a metal arm and calling me a worm out of nowhere. Nah, man, that's not really. Like, it's nuts. That's not really where it's sad big dog. That's not where it's sad big dog. Conquest show. up. People were upset about

the Jeffrey D. Morgan casting. Why? People wanted Conquest to sound like Thor from Grada War Ragnarok or whatever. Oh, whatever. I mean, Ryan Hurst, a great voice actor, but I think what Jeffrey D. Morgan did in this episode was very, very, very, very good. They add the scene of him whispering

in Mark's ear about... Yeah, that was, that might have been my favorite part. Dude, I want... Because, again, I know what's supposed to happen. So I'm going and like... Nobody likes me. Everybody's scared of me. They send me to go conquer these worlds and they come back. And it was like, oh, my God. It was legitimately like unsettling.

He went punish her. I liked it. I loved it. Legitimately. It was mad at settling. But I mess with it. I mess with what they did. Mark, that's my guy.

You know, we've done a lot of glazing on Mark this week. I mean, he's not worthy of all glaze. He's got to get back in the gym because I know Conquist is that guy. I know he is. It's almost like Cecil knew what was good for him. He skated Mark on the ground, bro. He used Mark as a skateboard. Right.

Me personally, I wouldn't let that. He's got a die now. Now, he did it, but he kind of had to wait for Adam Eve to die before he, like, really locked in. Right. So, Adam Eve dies. Dyes. Nah, kind of. So there's been some discourse about Adam Eve and her powers.

Oh, what's been out there in the ether? People are like, why are they doing Adam? to me dirty like this. She should be like... With the power of love attack? Well, no, because you got to remember in the Adamee special when she's using her powers.

Yes, correct. It's very much different than how she uses her powers now. And I think there is, like, it's some like, yes, but really no. It's like glorified green lantern-esque stuff. Well, the thing is, like, why isn't she, like, locking in?

Like, in episode, like, in episode seven, she's, you know... She's doing everything. Very defensive, very much, like, I'm not trying to, like, get too active. But this episode, she kind of taps in. She changed the density of the air. She puts on the little mix suit.

Like, the whole thing. I think it's like two things happening, right? We're like, yeah, it is kind of basic what they're doing with her. But when she's fine, two invincibles, you can't really like, I don't know what. You got to get creative. Because remember, she took Powerplex out all by herself, right? When the Garden's Glow showed up, she was like, again, Immortals a loser. She just solo PowerPlex.

Why is Immortal Robot Black Seps showing up? My man, go home, right? Get out of you. We don't need you. Clearly, we don't need you, right? Episode 7 is two invincibles. That's a lot for anybody to handle. You just got to keep them away from you.

Because once they touch you, they break your leg. Episode 8, she was very much locked in. Mark needs my help. I got to do something. And she pulled on for work, and then she died. Right? So it's kind of this thing where Adam Eve is a super prophet super. I mean, she can bring her belt self back to life, you know, if need be.

apparently, right? Incredibly, can get active when she needs to get active. But the viltermites, man, different weight class, brother. It's really tough because all the viltramites actually try to sun mark, even though only one of them is their dad. And it's really interesting to know that, okay, with Adam Eve, out of the picture, seemingly. I mean, out of pictures who's dead for like five minutes.

I mean, it wouldn't even like, we were like, oh, no. Well, and that's it. That's it. Then, like, she's glowing and shooting, like, a unibeme at Conquest. But, no, I think that, just, you know, very interesting what they're doing with her powers. I don't, I think it's overstated how, like, they say, like, she got nerfed or whatever. I don't think that's true.

I just think she's smart enough to know when, like, she needs to lock in and when she doesn't need to. And even in her state with the, like, leg all messed up, she did what she had to do. But when you find two of Ultramites, you ain't got. You got to know your limits, you know. Speaking of killed. Conquest, not really dead. Not really dead, but so, I mean, let's even go back.

We've got to basically got a viltrimate, like, on a, on a platter for Cecil to play with. Well, so let's even go back to, like, the fight in the city, right? Yeah. Again, we talked about the animation. Just nailed it. Really, really, really, really good. Conquest dribbled Oliver. Yeah.

Like a basketball. literally just don't throw his head on the concrete. Insane. Mark, and this is the evolution of Mark over this season, again, while the show was operating at a high level. They talk about how much Mark's improved, how fast, how much faster he is, how stronger he is, just how much he's gotten stronger and better as invincible.

And Concah show up, and we're like, oh, that's the same dude from episode two of season one where he couldn't beat Rino. Right, right. Like, he is, right now, elephant, man. They made him, you know what I'm saying? You don't know what I'm saying?

No, no, no. It's a one for one. You know what they were doing? It's not Paul Gi-Imani. Yeah, they knew what they were doing. Yeah, they knew what they were doing. Yeah, they know what they were doing. I can't even do my,

like Paul Giamani. You have to end of Spider-Man 2, man. But he's looking at a little kid. He's like, I kind of love that ending scene of Spider-Man 2, though. But I know, but I would like to see him fight the right-old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just about to hit him with a manhole cover and he's like,

Chris. Cut the black. It's over. What I've done. All right. But no. Like he's, we're reminded about how weak Mark really is in this universe,

despite all the jazz that's been, all the hype that's been poured on him over this year. You need accurate power scaling because, again, like everything that's on earth that like happens in the middle of this season is small potatoes when a Viltrumite is in the air. Yeah. And not to say that it's like this ridiculous power scaling problem that like Dragon Ball Z has.

where it's like, all right, well, this is just higher and then higher and then higher. This is more like, okay, Mark is just in the wrong weight class for what Earth is capable of giving him. Completely and utterly just not in the same space. And it's odd that Cecil, like, with his seemingly infinite resources,

is still, like, you can only blame him so much because they can only give him so much to train against. I mean, there's, yeah, until a little try shows up. It's really, again, Chrysler, 300 looking like a phantom to a phantom pull up. Exactly. Right?

And so when Conquest show up, he's like, Cecil's like, yo, Sinclair, can we get these Rihanna men going? Like, nah, brother, it's Mark by himself. He bring out Oliver Kidani man, again, gets dribbled, about to tear him in half. Mark really don't lock in until his folks are in peril. Which is a real shame because we really got to get better about that. I mean, it is what it is. No, no, you can't do, you can't be doing buzzer beaters all the time, Mark.

You can't be doing this. I get it because Mark's whole thing and I was thinking about this as I'm watching the show is that his dad what happened with his dad

scarred him forever for sure like he can't he can't become that right he cannot become a murderous just seemingly

unrelenting guy like his dad was that's why he holds back so much that's why these things are tougher and that's why he doesn't get it

until he sees one of his folks imperil when he sees Oliver get hurt when he sees and he sees Eve die. He's like, all right, damn, bet. He's just going to lock it in.

It's what I got to do what I got to do. Once, like, it shows really funny, man, because they go to that beach in, like, I want to say, like, you know, Italy or whatever. And one thing a Viltramite's going to do when it's time to fight, Invincible, is run them through some bodies. Oh, my God.

And it, bro, they're at the beach. That's messed up. And there's a day, there you have. Everybody's enjoying the day at the beach. They fly by. in a blink. Like, it's got to be like three frames and then blood chunks

everywhere. There's literally that one the kid holding hands with his dad or a mom or whatever. Arms gone, right? I'm like, yo, again. Not again.

It almost makes you laugh because it's just so messed up. I was laughing. I was laughing. I was like, not again, bro. Jesus Christ. They cooked them. They cooked them again. Like the absolute like

dismantling of life in this show is kind of nuts. You cares, right? Just people, you know, people die every day, B. That's what Vanessa Hutchins said. You're tough. That's what Vanessa Hutchins said when they was doing the COVID. And you guys don't remember that?

What? When it was, they canceled Coachella and Vanessa Hutchins. Oh, right, right, right, right. She went on live and she was like, people die, man. I was like, yo, Gabriella Montez, what are you doing? It's like, hey, slow that. For Coachella? This will not age well.

Overall basketball game. A basketball game? No, but again, back to Mark killing Conquest. he like when you would push comes to shove when it's all set and done after everything happened in the city for everything that happened with Oliver after everything that happened with Adam Eve got to get busy arms bro again he punches him in the punches his arm right breaks it after the Oliver stuff they go to Italy

whatever Adam he dies like bet all right it's time for me to lock in arm broken he breaks the other arm uses his freaking noggin to put a dent in a conquest of his head, dude, it was so raw. Nnarly. And then they linger on his head. It was just like, oh. For a second, before the Guardians and Cecil show up. Just like complete and utter devastation and destruction.

I thought, again, the fight scene was well animated. Jeffrey Morgan can't give enough props to him. Stephen Young, I seen the future. You don't live to see tomorrow. think this episode did what it had to do and then some just completely and utterly elevated the series

and what an ending, bro. What an ending to an amazing season. Dude, Battlebeast still alive, conquest still alive, freaking anxious, still alive. The dude can't kill nobody, bro. Exactly. Okay, so let's, to wrap up on this,

we have so many more pieces on the board. Battle beats, etc. Mm-hmm. What are we most looking forward to the most in season four? I mean, seeing, so we see Eve use of powers to get their clothes off and the clothes are melted.

Like ice cream. That's, uh, it's bad. I think that's bad. I think that's bad. Some might say not great. I don't think, I think that's a harbanger of things to come. You don't have to be a genius. You don't have to be a comics guy.

It'd be like, uh-oh. Oh, this might be. That's not, that's not great. That's not how that's supposed to work, you know? I mean, the conversation he has with Oliver at the end, hey, maybe you do start killing people. Yeah. That's a dark, that's kind of,

dark, man. Like, I don't know. That's a little Cicill-Code. Yeah, that's a little Cicel-Code. We don't know. Well, not even Ciesel-Code. Even Cicill kind of like, Cecil don't kill nobody.

He's pragmatic, though. He's pragmatic. Well, yeah, why I can kill somebody when I can use him? Right. Conquest. He showed him a body double, obviously, because he's got, oh, boy, in the freaking tungsten steel. The mine thing. Yeah.

Coulping to get answers or whatever, right? It's, Cicel not going to kill you if he doesn't have to. And Invincible's kind of like, oh, sometimes body's got to get dropped. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that'll be interesting to see like how that play is going forward,

especially if Invin's the most committed to be like, actually, people got to die. Here's what I'm looking forward to in season four. Every season and subsequent, even episode, we see something try to chip away at Mark's humanity and the thing that like prevents him from going viltramite level insane and like letting the dogs out.

Yeah. Lack of a better term. I'm excited to know that as bad as things got in season three, the show will find a way to make it worse. The show will find a way to make it more challenging. They will find a way for Mark to be tested and proven even more so. It's not about meeting 18 other versions of yourself that are all worse than you. 18 other what?

18 other versions of yourself? No, that's not what I said. That's what it sounded like. I heard versions There you go He said versions too Okay maybe my ears don't work Maybe your ears don't work

Maybe my ears don't work We can cut that it's fine We can cut that it's fine No it stays in It stays in It stays in No yeah This isn't a way game for you now

I just I was like What do you mean versions What is he talking about? It's not about meeting 18 different versions of yourself Enunciate the S is man That are all different It's not about your

Mom and family Getting constantly threat there's something with inside Mark that refuses to be his dad because he knows how bad his dad is and that's the actual line and I think that if season four is going to be proving anything it's going to even ratchet that up

even more because Viltermites are now more and more and more on the table for Mark to face off against and not just physically but dramatically as well to know that all of these people are going to be fighting against his better nature that's like the excellent level of superhero stakes that we love in genre story telling and that's what I love about Invincible. There's a quote from the Spurs, the Taurus coach, Aange.

Right. And he says every time I think I see the end, every time I think I see the light of the end of the tunnel, it turns out to be an oncoming train and that's just Mark's life. Yep. And guess what's in that? A bunch of bodies for you to be ran through. A bunch of bodies. You know what I'm saying?

Like, we got to talk about the post-credit scene. Right. Because that's not in the comics. It is not. That's not. Once Dark Blood disappears. Dark Blood is gone for the rest of the thing. Once Cecil vanishes him back to hell, that's it.

We don't see Dark Blood ever again. We don't see Dark Blood ever again. Like, it's one of those, like, it's just like really silly. So when I tell you, I was psyched to see Dark Blood again. I was like, Plancy, Brampton. What are you doing here? You know, you're supposed to be voicing Craig. Yeah.

What is Dark Blood? This is an interesting little twist. I'm intrigued. I want to see where this goes. Who do you think he was referring to when he's talking about the most powerful guy on Earth? I genuinely don't know. My thing is he got to have beef with Cecil, right? It's got to be Cecil, but like this can be interpreted, interpreted in so many different ways for who they think the most

powerful thing, because it could be from a biblical sense. It could be from, like, a resources thing. Like, it's, like, it could be Mark itself. Like, it's, there's a lot of things to, but he, I mean, I guess he would know them. I don't know how much he knows being in hell, right? Like, I'm guessing a lot. I mean, maybe, but like, it's beef is with Sisu, because Sisu was like, actually,

yeah, brother. Yeah, we sent you back. Yeah, like, you was like, yo, you can't keep a secret. I kind of need you to shut the hell up, but she don't want to shut the hell up. So we're sending you back to hell. Yeah, man, you're going to blow my spot up. Don't you hate them when people try to blow your spot up? Send them to hell. Yeah, I hate doing that.

I hate that. I hate that. I hate having to take out a witchy book and a seance to send them back to a demonic realm. You can only do so much. But I think that's, again, the show with Ray and Rex, that was new. And I quite enjoyed that plotline. So I'm interested to see where they go with dark blood. Last thing, Univiscible, before we get out of here. We got to talk about Paul's Fitz. Okay. He'd be having that thing. Oh, bro. What is going on? Bro. What is going on? Bro. Always got the overcoat with the turtleneck. We're all the way up to the top. To the top.

He stays sharp. I'm like, yo, Paul, he cooks, he cleans, he be dressing well. Debbie, I see the vision. She lives in her life. He puts in work. He puts a word. Every single time he fitted out, I'm like, yo, bro, who are you trying to impress? Debbie already like you.

First of all, you'd be doing all that and more for Debbie. Oh, brother, yeah, I'd be on my knees. Yeah, yeah, I understand. I understand. I get it. I'm just saying, like, Paul. You'll hit the Gucci store tomorrow if you know you got a date with. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm putting that thing on. You know what I'm saying? Balenciaga. You know what I'm saying? Balenci, Belize. Belize? Why'd you feel the need to do that? Because it was, it's Valency.

I just, I just feel like you didn't have to do that. I felt like you could have easily have not done that. And the point would have got across. Yeah, well? This feels like, oh, I don't know, man. It feels like a microagration. I don't know. I like that.

You could have done versus. Versace and Versace, like, I would take Abigos. Right. You know what I mean? Like, that was, yikes. Is that too far? That was, I might have been a bit too far, man. Okay.

Well, we'll let the audience decide. All right. Ask if I need a note's app apology in any, in any comment of any midnight boys. You got to just go on threads. Right. I will hit frets. It's like that, the, of Spider-Man, the, uh... I messed up.

Yeah. I made a mistake. I missed up. I bet it was a mistake. But no, man, like, Paul be getting his stuff off. Can't wait to see what it looks like season for. Guys, I don't think I can overstate how excited I am to get season four in the year of our Lord, 2029. Fantastic. I can't wait because the show is doing its freaking thing.

These three episodes have, like, I was already invigorated, but reinvigorated my belief in the show in a way that I think is insurmountable. Hopefully, they can continue this level of quality because if it does, then we got to start having uncomfortable conversations, but where the show goes in the Pantheon. It's incredibly surprising the amount of consistency the show has had in this season, in contrasted to a season that we struggled with from time and time. You take six weeks off. You take the six weeks off, you don't do that again, and they learn from that. Great. Right.

I'm kind of now fully back on board with this show. I think it's probably must see TV whenever it comes back now. This is something that I hope you guys do not miss out on, and it's something that I'm really looking forward to covering in the next season. Oh, I can't wait. going to be a lot of fun. And guess what? We only, we can cover it.

Nobody else can cover it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Van Charles, you're out. Yeah, Van Charles, y'all out. Y'all missed the bus. You missed the train. We gave y'all, we was like, yo, Invisible's hitting.

We gave you an in. Y'all didn't want it. Y'all said, nah, it's whack. Y'all was talking all that crazy. What did y'all say? Stay on that side. Stay over there on that side. Y'all got it.

We hear. This is us. Okay. Invisible, man, addition. Like, peace in a, pod, baby. Come on. We love it. We love it. All right. Let's move on. Jack Wade's here on the show. He's going to be talking to us in a little bit.

We watched the movie Novacane, starring on one Jack Wade. On a Friday night. On Friday night. At Century City. It was actually a fun time. Oh, dude, we had a blast, man. Friday night, Century City. Cairn was there. Yeah. You know, we were all locked in. I didn't know what to expect from this movie, but I was entertained. Like, legitimately had a great time. I had some laugh out loud moments. There were some gross stuff that I did have to look away from

because I was like, yeah, don't love that. Yeah. But the movie was great. I thought Jack was really good. Amber Midthunder was awesome. And it was just a complete and utter blast. Yeah, this was a really fun

comedy action thriller that stars Jack Wade. He, basically, his character does not feel pain. That's why they call him Nova Kane. Nova Kane. And like, the movie is surprisingly sweet. It's very funny. It's got a lot of decent action in it.

And we had a really fine time with it. And I think you guys will too. The action was great. The comedy was also great. Thought the action specifically, though, like, not to say surprise me, but Jack was doing his thing, man. I'll say inventive.

Inventive, just like turns the premise on its head a lot. I thought that it was just a really, really, really great time. And a movie they don't really make anymore. Like this kind of movie, is stuff that like legitimately we have seen phased out of theaters It evokes something that was like in the early 2000s, the late 2000s

early 2010s. That is quite fun and it feels like a nice little throwback to a movie that I hadn't seen in quite a while. I haven't seen, especially in theaters. Yeah. In a long, long time. And so I was just very,

I was very, very glad that this movie got the release and it's getting the apropos of love. I think it's like 94, I mean it was time recording, Like, it was just, people are really enjoying this movie, and I'm glad that they are. Me too. All right. So, without further ado, let's talk now to Jack Quaid.

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spring. Save at Whole Foods Market. Hi guys. Hey, how are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Of course, of course. Lovely. Where are you right now? Are you in L.A.? No, I'm in a hotel room in New York. We're just, I just did the, I just did the, I just did the Drew Barrymore show, and she, um, she waxed my leg hair on TV. It was a, it was an experience. It's, uh, I feel like I had a dream like this once. It was like, and now I'm like, oh, I've, I've been here before. No, but this is, uh, this is crazy. We're going to talk about it, but you'll be getting put through the ringer, man. Yeah. Maybe. Oh, yeah. Some might say I've been putting through, been put through the ringer verse, but you know, what do I know? Oh my goodness,

buddy. Do you have to say the word ringer on every podcast episode? Is that part of it? I mean, kind of. I mean, kind of. You know, it has the ring of Verso, you know, it makes... There you go. They keep the brand strong. That's what I always say. You got to do it. It's all about brand strength.

This, of course. Do it. I just, I literally just saw a TikTok of you in an interview. And everybody's talking about when you walk down the street. Oh, like Huey. That's all you hear, right? Yeah, all the time. In this movie, Novakati, it's a little different.

Instead of getting your ass kicked, you doing the ass kicking. You know? Well, I'm also getting my ass kick quite a lot as well. Take you to you to you know, but it's, At least it's 50-50 this time. Sure, sure. I did it feel in this movie to finally be like, all right, I'm the guy who's going to deliver the beats. Oh, man, that was cool, dude.

I mean, like, I, you know, I've done a little bit of action scenes here and there for the boys. But I'm usually that guy kind of cowering in the corner in that show. I shoved Homelander once, and that felt very good. But, you know, I've always been a person who's really interested in using my physicality as a performance. I'm a sketch comedian. I do live sketch shows all the time and my favorite thing to do is to find a way to use my floppy, floppy limbs for comedy. And Novakane definitely provided that opportunity. It was really cool to, you know, dive headfirst into the fight choreography, figure out how this character specifically fights because he's not a trained fighter and he can't feel physical pains. So there was a lot to wrap my head around there. But yeah, I just really really. relished that opportunity. And every day, something insane was going on. It really was, whether that was like the amount of injuries, you know, the prosthetics

that they had to apply to me or a fight scene or hanging upside down for an entire afternoon while we shot a scene where I'm suspended midair. It was just a, it was just a blast. It was really, really cool. That's so interesting. So, like, obviously there's a lot of things that kind of go off the cuff in this movie. Lots of stunt work that, like, is quite imaginative. But I genuinely did not anticipate.

Was there anything that you like kind of discovered on the day that you were like, you were trying to like work out a stunt either with the crew or the director or something like that? That kind of like came up organically that wasn't exactly in the script. They're like, well, we can't do something quite like this. Maybe we can make it work this way. Oh, man, that's a really good question. I think kind of the nature of stunt scenes is like, you know, you rehearse those things so much. My favorite thing in stunt scenes is the previs.

It's when the stunt team is like they make a movie essentially. They shoot her on their phones or whatever. And it takes place like in their stunt studio. And they're using all like cardboard props. The walls of cardboard boxes and stuff. But it's basically like a mockup of what the scene will eventually look like. And it's my favorite thing because it's just like a slightly like low-fi version of what you're going to do. And that's my favorite thing to watch.

But yeah, no, there's sometimes there's things will come up where like you can't do something a certain way. so you have to pivot. And it's all about safety. And so they're trying to work that out. But I think my favorite thing that we shot, and it was intended to go this. Oh, actually, okay. So there is a shot of me in the first real fight scene of the movie

where we're in a kitchen. And I get slammed into, I get shoved into the fridge. I get slammed head first in the fridge. And then I get shoved onto a table and figuring out how to match that movement with our incredible DP Brett Hurd, you know, like matching the stunt with the camera was so cool. But in the meantime,

I'm just actually slamming my head up against the Frisch. So that was like a definitely a memorable day. And I think that that shot is maybe my favorite shot of the movie. It's very like, it's kind of tracking with me as I just keep slamming, you know, from one thing to the next. And the whole time, I can't wince or anything because then that just betrays the whole of the movie. Yeah. You mentioned safety. One thing about Nathan. Kane is that it was no, he was not safe. He was very much putting his life on the line. Oh, yeah.

In between, like, putting his hand in burning oil or, like, using his bone as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a knife. It's crazy. Of all the injuries that Nathan Kane had, uh, in the movie, what's the one, at least the ones that most people can survive, obviously. What's the one that you would like, ah, this is the, the last thing I want to happen to me? It's funny, like, I'm on the boys, so it takes a lot to shock me. But I think I found my line with, there's a scene involving my fingernails that. I could have watched it.

It's tough. And even me, it's tough for me to watch it. And it was tough for me to do it on the day because obviously those are prosthetics. Right. But, you know, that's still on my real hands. And I'm just watching them. And I'm like, oh my God. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

and I've done scenes where I'm like inside of a beached whale on the boys. Like it's just it's just nuts. But that's what I love about the character is that because of his condition, you know, we all think it might be really cool if we didn't feel physical pain. But it actually can be quite dangerous because, you know, pain is the body's warning system. And like, just because he doesn't feel pain doesn't mean he can't get hurt.

And if you don't know that you're hurt for a while, that can be kind of dangerous. So in the beginning of the movie, he's like babyproofed his house, essentially, where all the sharp corners have tennis balls on them and he needs to make sure that if he pours coffee into his mug from the office that there's like ice in that cup

so that it's not too hot because he wouldn't know. So he has to live this very safe existence and then to flip that on its head once Sherry, his love interest gets kidnapped, he's just risking it all for her and he's just putting himself into situations that he never would before. That's why I love the most about the character

is that it's just he's doing all these things that he's just lived his whole life trying to avoid. Well, and you mentioned your wonderful co-star, Amber Men Thunder. This movie is actually quite sweet and earnest at Ports. And I was really moved at certain moments in the movie where your character was really being both vulnerable and hilariously socially awkward. Was there a moment in the script where you're like,

oh, this movie's kind of operating on a different level that's not just cartoonish action and fun? And how did you kind of approach that when you had that like kind of more intimate scene in the beginning of the movie. Well, that was the reason I signed on to do the movie because if this movie was just gore and just violence, that's fun, but it didn't really appeal to me. I'd say that I was trying to, and I know Dan and Bobby, the director, this was really important to them and it was really important to Amber. We tried to inject as much heart as possible into this movie. And I wanted

to make Nathan, you know, to contrast all the horrible things that are happening, all the gnarly gore and guts. If he was dark and brooding and moody, it would just be like dark on top of dark. I needed to contrast that by making Nate one of the sweetest characters I've ever played. Like, he is a cupcake of a human being. And that's by design, just so that we can, you know, uh, have all that violence. But if it's happening to a dude who's like, uh, I am the night. I am darkness. It's just going to be a little too much. But the romance is the biggest key part of that. And I remember when Dan and Bobby, I had my first meeting with them and they were like, we want to put just as much into these romantic scenes as we did, as we're, as we're going to do to

the action scenes. Then I was hooked because I knew they were really smart because the whole movie hinges on that relationship. It lives or dies on whether or not you believe in the love between Sherry and Nate. Because if you don't care about them, you don't care about Nate trying to save her for the whole movie. So that was really important to me. And we rehearsed for those scenes. about as much as I did for the action scenes. And I just, I love them together. They're very, very cute couple. I, I agree.

I wholeheartedly agree. You mentioned your background earlier and like, you know, I know, you do a lot of five-second films. That stuff is, is really cool. I love them. So I've been a fan of theirs for years to the fact that I get to hang out with them at all is the best. It's great.

But like you mentioned, the heart, the comedy also is a part of this movie that I thought weren't. What are my biggest laughs in the film is at the end when you're at, the prison and the guard is yelling. Is that an open flame I see? Like that's kind of stuff was just hilarious. It was so good. That guy too, I forgot his name, but he came in.

He just, you know, he has one scene in the movie and he just absolutely runs away with it. There was an extra shot that I saw. He was so good. He was cooking on set that day because they gave him an extra shot in the movie. Also, like, that's that we shot this movie in Cape Town. That is not his natural accent. He just nailed an authentic American accent. And he's like one of the funniest parts of the movie.

That guy's amazing. He was awesome. So when you're reading the script, getting on set, making this film, how do you inject, you know, are you improvving? Are you doing it as is? How do you inject humor into the film, like, as Nathan Kane? Well, it's a mixture of both. Like, I really enjoyed this script. And, you know, sometimes when I really enjoy a script, I think most directors are like, yeah, have fun with it after we get it a couple ways as scripted.

But then there are sometimes where I'm like, no, I think this is good. I think if I add more, I mean, not to disparage certain comedies, but there was kind of a trend there for a while in some comedies where at a certain point, you as the audience, could tell when they were off script, when they were going on a riff. And it would happen for like one or two beats too long. So if I improvise, I try to make it a little bit more succinct. You know, like just like if I have like a line or something, I try to make it like as tight as possible so that it feels like maybe that could have been

part of the script. And Dan and Bobby gave us so much freedom after we got the takes done as scripted a few times. And I think the biggest moment of improv from me probably was there's a torture scene in the movie. And I think that day that just kind of let me run wild. And that was so much fun to do. That might have been the most fun I had on the movie. If you can believe that I had fun during a torture scene. Oh, I can easily imagine.

I mean, it looked like fun because you're sitting there and you have like fake being. pain, you know what I mean? For anybody would be hard because I'm just imagining my nails getting peeled off. Yeah, yeah, it's rough. But you have to act stoic and then on top of that, be like, oh, actually, I'm pretending that this hurts, you know? Yeah, I love that that's a moment where we flip the premise on its head. Like the whole time we're like, all right, Nate's not going to react when he gets pain.

But I love him acting like he feels pain. And not only that, acting very badly. I love any opportunity where I get to be a bad actor. I love that. And please don't take that line out of context. Jack Wade says he's a bad actor. Oh, this is going to go viral. Yeah, you're cooked.

Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. TikTok's going crazy now. I'm terrible. No, it's wonderful. So one of my final questions that I had is you had mentioned that you're a big sketch comedy fan. And a bit back in the day, you also did a Dungeons and Dragons sketch show with a couple of your

improv friends that I had seen. Yes. Yeah, no, they still do it. It's a, they basically, it's called Hero Club. I'm technically a producer. It is a, it's a Dungeons and Dragon show where you go through this campaign. You know, you're listening to people go through the campaign, but the thing that makes Hero Club different was there's no cross talk.

Everything that you hear is the character's lines, and we add in sound effects and, you know, these kind of soundscapes and sometimes original music. It's very fun. It's like you're just kind of watching to a radio play, but it's, It's all been, the way that it's playing out is all based on dice rolls. And I love that about the conceit of the show. And I was curious, like, of the characters that you've been able to play, like, can you possibly think of like a Dozen Dragons character sheet for one of your characters?

Oh, man. If Novocaine possibly goes through that. Oh, my God. I would actually love to play Novocaine as part of a D&D campaign. That'd be incredible. I really want to one day. I have something that I'm about to start working on. I can't really say what it is,

but I would love to start my process of figuring out who this character is based on a D&D sheet. I think that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to roll up their stats based off what I think their whole vibe is, and maybe I'll play a campaign as that character before I actually play the character on the set. I think that's what I'm going to do.

And we'll see how that goes. That's like always been doing my own. now, but standing invite to ringer quest. We're just saying, I mean, I'll be there. I'll be there. That'll be really, really fun. That was funny. He said no cross talk.

I was like, ah, he's not. It's not going to work over here. It's all it is. No, no. Hey, I love crosstalk. I really do. But just for our show, we're like, that way that show will be like,

with cross talk, it'd be like 15 hours long. And most of the cross talk is me, like, being confused on how to play Dungeons and Dragons. Like, I'm good, but I'm not, you know. All my characters are usually characters that are like, barbarians, like just someone, you know, someone that's like, okay, I roll to see if I punched the guy

and how hard did I punch the guy? Like that's my level, really. So, and part of the conceited movie is that Nathan doesn't really have friends. He's got one friend, you know, shout out Jacob. Dude, Jacob's amazing. It's awesome.

If your character was going to have one friend of all the characters you played, who would be the closest? Would it be Clark? Would it be Huey or would it be Boimler? Ooh, dude, that's a good question. I love them all. I think, oh man, well, Clark is just like the sweetest dude.

Like, I don't know, probably he'd be, but he's very busy because he has another job that he won't tell me about. Maybe I think I'm going to have to go with Huey. I love Boimler, but I know Boimler would start. stress me out a little bit. So I think I'm going to go with you. He's a good, he's a good dude. Well, because I feel like Boymler and Nathan would be great. Like, they're not, like, they'd be great friends.

Don't take no risk. Don't do anything crazy. Up until Nathan's like, yo, I got to go get my girl. Boehler would lose his absolute life. Like, what do you mean? Yeah, he'd be like very, it'd be a couple of, I did inject a couple of Boimler screams. I knew it. I knew it.

I had to. I was like, wait a minute. I was like, out of it. That's poibler. I had to. I mean, you know, every now and then I'll hit you with that high-pitched scream. Yeah, I just love to do it. I realized that I could do that back when I did a movie called Rampage.

Oh, okay. I auditioned for that movie, and there's a scene where a giant gorilla bust through a wall. And it says screams a high-pitched scream in the audition sides. And I remember doing it in the audition room. And I remember leaving, and the entire office definitely heard it. They were looking at me because they were. so they didn't think that that noise came from me.

That was the moment where I was like, that scream might be something. And I remember in the movie rampage, you know, I do that scream. The giant gorilla busts through the wall, but it's kind of a wide shot where you see the entire office and there's a lot of like other noises. So it's hard to pick out or even understand

where it's coming from. But then when Boehler came along, I was like, I got this thing. Let's go. Let's use this thing, maybe. I can imagine. That's exactly how the Oppenheimer audition went. That's just like, yes, we're going to cook today. They're like, we love that screen, but can you play the bongo? Yes.

It's literally in the theater. I think it's in the kitchen scene. I hear the Böhmelish scream. I'm like, ah, that's my guy. Oh, my God. That's my dude. Season 6, what's it coming, Jack? People are wondering.

People are asking. Yeah, it's our final season, man. We're shooting it right now of the boys. It's coming. I have no idea when it's coming, actually. But yeah, we're shooting it right now. It's going to be so... I mean, the show has changed my life for the better, like almost overnight, you know.

I've been such a nerd my whole life. So I had always wanted to be a part of some sort of superhero universe. Maybe, you know, I remember thinking like, oh, maybe I could be in a DC movie or a Marvel movie. But never in my wildest dreams did I think I would be on the ground floor of a superhero universe that's entirely its own thing. And I'm so grateful for that. that show has done so much for me and for everyone. I've met all those incredible people and we're all genuinely great friends. Like that cast is so tight.

And, you know, I think we're going to remain friends for the rest of our lives, but it is, I don't know. I'm kind of in the middle of it now, so it's not quite dawning on me yet that it's the last season. But I just know I'm going to weep like a baby when it's all over. Yeah, it's going to be very bittersweet. You know, it's nuts, though, Jack. You could still be in a DC and Marvel movie. There's a lot of gaming.

I know. I'm not saying that that's off the table. I would love that. That'd be so cool. Jack Wade and Cyclops. Who says no? Oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh.

I didn't say nothing. You know what Cyclops needs is a high-pitched scream. I agree. That's what all the fans want. We've been missing. Listen, I, that's what I just said that. I just hit Kevin Fagie right now. I was like, yo, you know who needs a high-pitched stream?

Cyclops. What's all? Cyclops, yeah. We're going to get you, man. Don't worry about it. We're going to get you, man. We're going to see you. Thank you. Hey, I appreciate you rooting for me. Thank you.

And we appreciate you coming on and we really appreciate your time. We had a great time watching Novocaine and it's been really exciting to talk to you, man. Thanks, man. Likewise. Thanks for having me, guys. All right, thank you so much again to Jack Wade for joining us. Be sure to check out Novakane. That was a really fun and fine time of the movies. We hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you as well to our intrepid producer, Jonathan Kerma, who is taking care of us on the ones and twos, as all. always.

Also, be sure to check out our video portion of that interview. If you want to watch us talk to Jack Quaid, don't you want to see our lovely faces next to Jack Quaid

faces? You can see our faces on YouTube. And be sure to like, comment, and subscribe on that. And it was a great time.

Thank you to our wonderful producers, Kerm, for this. Alea, the queen pin, working us on the video as well.

And Jomi, specifically, wants to thank Isaiah. Yeah, man. Isaiah did his thing. He was locked in. Appreciate you. As always, Junior Mintz,

we thank you for everything that you do. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. Yes. You guys are real ones. And we got to give a shout out to our number one producer out here, my guy, Dorian Fini Kerm. Nice.

And we will see you guys next time. LeBron, LeBron, LeBron, James. LeBron, LeBron, LeBron, James. LeBron, LeBron, LeBron, J. Y'all not, y'all not excited.

We're not on the meme like you were. Y'all not on the meme? Come on, you Hayden. Are Juna Hayden? Because he's a Boston fan. I know he's bad. Mimmy. Mimmy.

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