The Ringer-Verse - James Gunn's DCU Hype Report Card | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

The boys are here to give their reactions and speculate on the biggest announcements of the new DCU as laid out by James Gunn and Peter Safrin (07:21). They each give their hype grades as to what projects they like the most and look to the road ahead to some of their legacy projects. Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Productional Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jesus. Well, it's all in good fun. We are, Steve, the architect Alma, the builder of things. We are, O'Ban Van, he of the receding hairline.

We are Coke, baby, Chuck, the 24-carried closer, aka the brunch haughty, aka the man. And with the plan together, we are known as the midnight boys. You have to follow us on social so Jomi can get us to lean at 7. Let me tell you guys what Jomi, what happened this past weekend in my house.

Fantastic Sunday, which has become tradition. She's championship Sunday at the Lathens. I was there, Jomey was there, Kalika was there. Rachel Bryan, Nick, Brownie Copper Bozeman. That's right. Steve. Allman.

Okay. We're all hanging out. Jomey thinks that he heard, Jomi thinks that he heard Tony Romo. Say the N-word. Baby Tony Romo. National treasure.

National treasure Tony Romo. Underrated, Quiet, Boy, quarterback. All right now. Don't do all this. Y'all blew my men spot up. Don't do all that.

Let's continue this story. Your man's. Tony Romo's all of a sudden, your man's? I'm defending the good honor of Tony. Anyway, Jomi thinks that Tony Romo said the N-word. And then we upload what we thought was

a very like innocent video. of this alleged funny inwards like and that shit went everywhere Jomi how many people watched the video? Oh man, I think it's last time I saw it was like 1.3 million views. I,

after like 30 minutes, I immediately went and muted that tweet. I said, yeah, I'm not saying no notification for this. That's we ruined your life. Y'all have fun. Enjoy y'all Sunday.

We're the midnight boys. This is the big leagues. Y'all don't think people are going to mute this. No. The tweet was featured in every article that I saw it on Yahoo. And right there, and I got calls from people. I got calls from very important people in my life who are Tony Romo friends.

They were like, yo, Van, why are you doing this to Tony Romo? I don't want to speak for Jomey, but I don't think that we think that Tony Romo is racist. We don't. We were just fucking around. Sorry. Now, follow Joe on socials. You'll see the video. It won't stop.

It continues. Instit Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Selena, S7. Programming reminders was Friday, the House of R. We'll give you a prep watch list for Mando season three. Prep watch list. You must prep. How many weeks are we away?

When's Mando? March 1st? Yeah, it's a month away, baby. Woo! A month away. We're a black people's month away from Mando. Steve, be careful. Prep watch list.

What will be on a prep watch list for Mando, you guys? What would you guys have on it? Well, you got to have the Book of Boba Fett, those two episodes. Mando, some people might have tapped out. Also, the Mandalorian episode arcs from Clone Wars, mandatory. Mandatory. And then, I mean, basically, I'm not going to say all of rebels, but there's a lot, a lot, a lot of

of Mandalorian stuff in Rebels with Satine, with Sabine Ren, with the Dark Sabine with Boketan, you know, Pags, like there's so much Mandalorian lore in there. I must have watched the whole thing because it's that good. The Mandalorian plot, Clone Wars, really good.

Love all that stuff, you know. Darth Marla. I'm not going to spoil it because I know you guys get mad, but suppose there was a lot of stuff there to watch Malinjo get you sorted. On Wednesday and Midnight Boys will be giving you the long-awaited sequel

to the Black Super Heroes' draft. We were going to do that today. But then James Gunn hit us with the he hit us with the ha! We have a whole DC slate to talk about. DC now. It's an hour and Matt.

We have nothing but imagination for DC now. Who do we know? What do we know? We know conceptually what's coming. And we're going to go back and forth today and volley these ideas around. Today's show we're going to give our reactions and grades to this huge info dump of DC's new roadmap and films and projects as laid out by James Gunn. We're also going to give reaction to the new DC theme. song that James Gump played

yesterday the theme song for DC what did you guys think about it? I had no sentient thoughts I didn't even know there was a new theme song. There's a theme song? Yeah. You guys didn't hear the song that they played? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all didn't hear the song

goes, D.C. Motherfuckers, and it's time for danger. D.C. in this bitch. That's the theme song and it was playing. Be serious. That's the song. That's the DC thing so. That's going to come up on the, that's going to come up over the logo. When every D.C.

When every D.C. movie comes. It's going to hear. D.C. motherfuckers. And it's time for danger. D.C. in this bitch. And then as saying by Ray Fisher. That's, they're going to keep him more.

They got Ray Fisher back for that. They got Ray Fisher back to do that. I'm good off that, actually. All right. Let's do the D.C. That's nuts. Universe. Hypert reports.

Report card this Tuesday, James Gunn announced a multitude of projects and films with a new slate of D.C. And what people can expect in the years to come. This was long-awaited. Gunner producer Peter Safrin announced and described the following projects. And in honor of this breaking news, The Midnight Boys, Apupew have decided to do a hype report card. We're going to discuss each of the 10 projects that were announced for this first chapter. after we debate our feelings on the announcement, each of us will give a project

a grade for perspective movie or television show. Our personal hype meters will determine what those project grades are, how excited we are for those things. Then later in an episode, we'll do some extra credit discussing the other projects on the DC slate that aren't a part of the interconnected universe, because one thing that they clearly laid out was that there's going to be DC

you and then there's going to be DC Charles, you like to say that? Essentially the billion dollar makers that they're like, shit. We can't ignore these. Yeah, we still got to have a Joker. Like, come on.

DC Elseworld. So you get like a Joker musical movie and Robert Patton's Batman 3 hours. And Alckerman 3 I was hearing, potentially. Aquaman 3 is DC else worlds.

Really? I was seeing some rumors. We'll talk about it later. Okay. Superman Legacy. So this movie is featuring the man of steel that James Gunn is writing and might direct. Okay, might, might.

He hasn't given us any firm sort of indication that that'll be happening. It's the true kickoff for the DCU. It's not an origin story. It's what Saffron said. Not origin, that's probably pretty good. It focuses on Superman balancing his cryptonian heritage with his true human upbringing.

He is the abominment of truth, justice is an American way. He's kindness in the world that thinks that kindness is old-fashioned release date of July 11th, 2025. A time I'll be 45 years old. Has been penciled in. Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, Charles. I like Superman. I'm excited to see this movie. part of me,

I get worried about Superman. I'm not going to lie, because this is probably the third Superman incarnation of my life just in movies. And it's always just like, yeah, we're gonna get back to the roots of kindness and blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, all right, cool, cool, cool, cool. But also, who the fuck is Superman gonna punch? Like, I, that is actually what I want to do. Like, like, the kindness is cool. American Way is cool. But I'm like, are we going to get a cool Superman villain or are we going to do Lex Luthor and or what you'll call it again? Like I need a new Superman villain. I cannot have like a Lex

Luther film or um what's his face from from Superman to. Zod? Zod. Sorry. I thought Zod was the, I thought Zod was the best part of Manor Steal. No, but what I'm saying is we've gotten Zod. We've gotten Zod so many times. Like if we're doing a new Superman movie, I need to see some. something fresh for him to punch. I don't want to like a... Brainiac?

I think Brainiac's the only one to do. I think Brainiac would be fucking sick. For me, it's... You focus on a villain. I'm focused on Superman himself. Who's playing him? They've been very clear on that they want a younger Superman, somebody who's around like 25 years old. And so I'm looking around.

I'm like, they're going to get that dude from Euphoria. They're going to get Nate from Euphoria to play? Oh, no, they can't do that. We got to talk about that. bro. I've been hearing rumors about that. Like, I've seen Nate do too much fucked up shit on Euphoria. There ain't no way I can buy it to Clark.

That's what I'm saying. I don't know who's playing him, so I don't think I can make a solid decision right now. Like, I can just go off what James Gunn is giving us. I am interested, but I won't know for a fact, like, how I really feel about this film on so I know who's playing Superman.

For me, the issue is nailing the proper tone. Superman's always been about like a shining beacon of hope at least therefore the thing that we've been missing since the Snyderverse began and it's kind of got to be a bit of a Superman and lowest type of

just a great hero and we've missed that for quite a long time I think if they get the tone right I could watch him punch a volcano like it doesn't matter to me villains don't matter to me the man matters and I just like if that if they nail Superman I'm in for the whole ride Yeah, I kind of along the lines of that, you know, they've made great Superman movies before. Two of them.

Maybe three. If you like Richard. With the nuts. Poon. Poon. I like that. I like all the four. I'm of the age that where I was wild in the theater by nuclear man.

All right. Wait, let's be real. Man of Steel is not that bad. Like, everybody's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.

Like, it's, it's not that bad. It's a fine movie. It's not even a bad movie. It's like, it works. It's fine. It's cool. There's nothing. Whatever.

But, you know, I think that when Superman returns came out, he's flying up into the sky and he's Jesus and all that stuff. I think that's when it started to get like a little bit, you know. Yeah. It would be great if someone wasn't as in love with the idea of Superman. and more in love with the actual character of Superman. Because the actual character of Superman has a lot of complexities in his life. It's why Superman and Lois, like, the show works.

Because, like, it's just a lot of funny stuff, a lot of things that really work as far as the dynamic of Clark v. Superman. I remember there's one scene where his son wants to tell his girlfriend about their powers and everything that's going on. He's like, Dad, I really love this girl. Can I tell him about this? And Superman gets this big smile on his face. He goes, no.

He just, like, he laughs at the audacity of this idiot kid who wants. He's like, no. And he's like, and I'm thinking, when I'm watching the show, I'm like, this is working because it's actually a human story of a superhuman person. And if they can land that, which it kind of seems like they're trying to, if they can land that, but at the same time make the audience completely aware of the power and the significance of this character, then I think the movie is a lot less complicated as than we've made it out to be for the last 15, 20 years. He's a simple guy, right? You know what I mean?

And you can save the other overarching stuff. We can see Superman bumping against other heroes and stuff like that. but just give us classic soups doing stupid things. Don't go too crazy with the suit. Stop trying to fucking reinvent the, stop trying to give it blue tights, draws, boots, go. You know what I mean? It's like, it's Superman, man.

I think they're doing too much as is why they're doing so little. Right. Can I ask two things. The first is if they're doing a young Superman, I almost think the tone of Invincible is actually what I would want, not in terms of violence,

but in terms of Mark in that show, gets to make mistakes. Like, he's not always making the right decision. There is tension there, where with all of the Superman movies that, you know, have been made, there's always this feeling because he's spaced Jesus. They're like, Superman always makes the right decision. And I'm like, that doesn't make for a very good character.

That's, the stakes of that can only be so much. And kind of the second thing is, does leading off with a Superman movie potentially worry y'all? And what I mean by that is, is I think we've been down this road where DC has tried to start a universe off with Superman. And when the Superman movie

doesn't make a billion dollars, everybody's like, what's happening? And I think part of me is like, would it have made more sense to try another hero with less baggage? I was just the first part where you talk about what did you say?

You said the tone of Superman. The tone of Invincible, not in terms of the violence, but in terms of like, if they want a young Superman, what I think is interesting about Mark, is that Mark gets to have all these powers, but he makes mistakes.

Like, he is a teenager who goes through life and he's not perfect. That's what I want to talk about. So I think the interesting thing about Superman is not that he always makes the right decision. It's that sometimes the right decision. It's that sometimes the right decision is actually the wrong decision. Sometimes when you're dealing with the complexity of life and the give or take,

we've seen this before. Same thing with Batman, right, in a way. Is it the right decision to kill the Joker? Or is it the wrong decision to kill the Joker? Shouldn't you kill them? Aren't you saving lives? or is that the wrong thing to do because you become him? So I think it's kind of the same with Superman,

whereas I think putting the character's morality up against an immoral world where the right decision morally may be the wrong decision for the humanity you claim the love is the way you get the most out of Superman. Secondly, I think it was a little bit like really they're going to start with Superman, but only because it was the, it's the character they've had the least amount of success with. It's their most turbulent character. But that almost like comforts me

because if you're going to start with him, it tells me that James Gunn, seeing what's been seen before, if they're going to start with me, it tells me that James Gunn must have an idea and storycraft there. that is almost unimpeachable. This isn't me doubting what James Gunn is going to do

with the character. What I'm doubting is we kind of all know what financial straits, HBO Discovery, whatever they want to call themselves now, is in, if Superman legacy

does not make, does not do Batman numbers, does the company have the patience to be like we're building something, we're building something, or do they want the Joker numbers right out of the gate? The movie needs to make 500 million domestic

for everything to go right. It's just a fact. And they have five years, as far as the worldwide, you know, we'll see. The movie needs to make between 4 and 500 million domestic to have a shot.

And to, on being a pillar. And they need to spend the next three years or whatever it is, really two years, right? They need to spend the next two years. years making that character, like, priming people and getting ready for the movie, you know? I want to believe that, you know, they've given James Gunn and Peter Safran the runway to do what

they need to do, no matter what happens, no matter how much the movies make, no matter how successful critically or non-successful critically they are, that they'll be able to finish out at least this part one, gods and monsters. but that usually doesn't happen, especially if the movies don't perform well financially or critically. You know, D.C. is very known to be like, all right, that didn't work. Next. So I wish, I hope, and I pray that they get the runway to, you know, make mistakes.

But ultimately, that's never how that goes down. Well, look, here's the thing, you midnight gloom speakers. I've made the decision to believe in D.C. once again. Once again, shut up, Charles. You're not tired of getting hurt? Yeah, like, I'm just, no, I'm the third time we've taken her back.

You know what I'm saying? Chloe Kardashian. Oh. Do we have our first transgression of the episode? That's not a transgression. You're always going in on Chloe, bro. I'm like, yo, I'm just saying she wants to believe. And I get it.

it. So I am that, okay? Wait, DC is Tristan Thompson in this? D.C. is definitely Tristan Thompson. Oh, then we fucked. We are fucked. D.C. is definitely Tristan Thompson. First draft. First draft pick. You know what I mean? He was number four. He went number four.

Oh, did he? He went number four in the Kyrieh draft. Yeah. Oh, I thought he was, for some reason, I thought that thing was a high draft pick or something. I mean, he went for. Yeah. But no, I did look, I, I am choosing to believe right now in D. and I'm choosing to believe because this is a legacy play for James Gunn and he said something very important when Zach had it

Zach had ups, Zach had downs you guys know I'm a Snyder versus Truther but when Zach had it he he was making all the moves to a degree like anything he was

Superman Justice League Superman versus Batman you know, he, Wonder Woman was out there and then whatever, they had different directors. But in this particular joint, I'm sincerely hoping that they bring in enough different voices

that you get a lot of color palettes from D.C. That's what I'm hoping right now. Is it time for grades? It is time for grade. So on our hype meter, Van, what are you giving this? A plus, obviously, hyped for this, cannot wait. F couldn't care less. Where are you going?

Set the tone. for today. I'm in. I'm going to give it an A. I'm I'm super hyped. I have a little bit of Henry. I have a little bit of you guys know how I love Superman. I have a little bit of Henry Cavill, uh, animus. But beyond that, I'm going to give it a A. I'm, I'm hyped for Superman legacy. I think it could work. Let's go soups. Woo! Pick up the cake, baby. Smack somebody with it. Send him in a space. Be-boo! Let's go, Superman. You know what?

I got to keep it real. I've been hurt one too many times. The homegirls saying I shouldn't accept him back. So I'm going to give this a B minus, okay? There's room for improvement. Good, solid, but room for improvement. Jesus Christ. What's wrong to B minus?

You weren't happy with the B minus when you came home, Ben. No, my parents, what? A B minus, that's nearly a C. Bro, we get, like, do you know what type of talking to that I'm going to get, if I come in a house with a fucking 88, what is this boy? An 88 is a B plus. No. No, it's not.

An 88 is a B plus. No, it's not. Like, I was in the gifted program. We were on the six-point scale. So, like, the classes that I took, it was. It was 100 to 94 was an A. That 93B used to drive me. When I would look at the, like, some kids going to look, 93 is an A.

I'm like, nah, nigger, where I go to school, it's a goddamn B. That 93B used to, it was 100 to 94. I was an A. It was 93 to 88 was a B. All right. and then so on, so forth. It was a six-point scale? What was the creation of the Dewey Decimal System, like, Van?

Did it change their library experience? Oh, my God. Transgression. Oh, my God. Transgression. I mean. Charles just wanted to be on the board with that one. Like, transgression.

Gratuit is shot at my age for no reason because I went to a, because I went to a, I didn't yell at you at all. What you asked me, and I was. I said 88, and I was like, no. I was like, that was a B plus when I... I'll take my transgression, my bad. I'm taking it. Okay, so what I'm saying is.

DeCimal system is insane. It is. Because I can use that shit. I have to learn that shit. Anyway, but yeah, so you're not fucking with Superman like that, Charles? That's fine. It's a B minus. I'm fucking with it.

It's my... So what's the number? What's the... Give me a number. What is it? The number? Like, is it 801? No, no, like 83, 84.

Yeah, okay, cool. I feel you. Who else? It's me. Show me. I'm honestly, I got to be with Charles, man. I'm giving to B minus until I see who is, who's playing Superman. Right.

If we get that dude from Euphoria up here, we get Michael McGrath up here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's an F of me. All right. My grade is going to be a B plus. I think that they know. what they need to do and more importantly what they need to not do.

And James Gunn, I think, is pretty much ready to set the tone for a joyful, kind, good old-fashioned superhero. B-plus for me. All right, all right. So we have the Brave and the Bold up next. Yo, Van, take us there. This is the introduction, the introduction of the DCU Batman. The movie has Damien Wayne in it A-plus for me. I'm either going to go through the rest of this goddamn little shit.

Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. This introduction of DCU Black Man's Head Gunn also introduce our favorite Robin, Damien, Wayne, who's a little son of a bitch. The movie will take inspiration, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Classic Black Man run, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Grant Morrison, blah, blah, a plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus,

plus, plus, plus, plus, out of this world, literally don't see how I can fail. Like, legitimately, don't see how it could fail. So here's my thing, right? And I'm really glad you put these back to back because this is not my problem because it hasn't happened yet, but this is where my brain starts to unravel when it comes to this thing. So in Superman, he's supposed to be like youngest, you know, like 25, you know, whatever, da-da-da. And in Brave and the Bold, we get a Bruce Wayne whose son is Damien Wayne, right? which means there was a Robin, now Nightwing.

Another Robin now, Jason Todd, Red Hood, probably an Oracle, you know, bad girl. And then more than likely, Tim Drake, another Robin. That means it must have been Batman for a long, long time. He got to be at least, at least like mid to late 30s. Well, in some, in the New 52, I believe, Batman was like 24 when he had Damien. Yeah, it's not that old.

Here's the thing. This is on the borderline of transgression. Show me. What do you have against teenage pregnancy? It happens. It's nothing to shame. Like maybe Bruce, maybe Bruce had him young.

Was bad? Like, like, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, normally when we get like a Batman and a Superman, they have the same ilk of like the same like age range, right? Yeah.

That could be, that could happen. Unless Damien Wayne is the first Batman or the first Robin, right? And we're, you know, going on the way back. But if we're looking at comic history and how this thing goes, he's usually a much older Batman when he's got Damien, right? We could yada yada yada this. All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, like, that's the thing where I'm like, okay.

So if they expect you to believe, like, an older Batman with a younger Superman, I don't really see that, you know? when I see these two projects and I see these two characters in my head. I don't really... As you say that, I kind of like the idea of like a 45-year-old Batman against like a 25-year-old. I know that. Y'all acting like 30-year-olds, 35-year-olds don't have little freaking kids. Like, it's fine.

It'll work out. Yeah. It's like, remember, black people have their first child at 21. White people have their first child at 61. Transgression. All right. Transgression. I mean, black is true.

That they have different things. The first day of black is three months. That's three transgressions if we're being real. That's not a fact. Steve, how old was your mom when she had you? She was 20. Damn, she was. You didn't have to say damn, bro.

Like, what? Yeah, why didn't say it like that? That's another transgressions. Yeah, that was one. She broke the mold, bro. She was, it was hard for her high. She was working double shifts. Wow, you were really talking about my mom.

I'm really talking about my mom like that. I'm saying. Like that's young, bro. She was like, you know, you want to tell a little story? She's like, what happened?

Like, what the fuck? My dad was 21. That was it. That is really, seriously, it's young. Yeah,

because it's going too far now. Wait a minute. All jokes aside. For like, normally for white people, like you don't see that. Yeah. You know what are you talking about?

Have you, There's literally a entire franchise on MTV that shows you white people be having a lot of people. Yeah, those are the, those are the reject white people, though. Like, you know what I mean? Those aren't like the white people. What the fuck, man? What's going on right now, bro? No, no, no, no.

I guarantee you right now, I guarantee you right now that there's data on this. I guarantee this is a transgression and talk about Batman for right now. It's really not a transgression. Steve, I, I'm glad for you because you get. You know, your mom will get a lot of time with my parents. Yeah, that's dope. Anyway, let's go back to great. I would meet my white homies and, you know, how old is your mom?

Is it like my mom, 65? You know, I mean? I'm in a ninth grade. I'd be like, God damn. Anyway, okay, I'm sorry, Steve. I wasn't trying to be, I really wasn't trying to be me. I love your family. That's fine.

All I'm saying is, I don't really see an older Batman and a young Superman. If that's how a straight father. then. I gave it a grade then. Show me where you went. I mean, here's the thing, right? If they include the bat,

like the whole bad family and this like a, you know, really cool get-together thing, I can't imagine not loving this. I am going to give it, but even without it, like, like,

Danio Wayne, that's my boy. That's my guy. He'd get right to the action. You're not really here for the histrionics. He's not there for the games. He's here for the action. So I'm going to give it a,

I'm going to give it a, B plus. B plus. God damn, Joe. I have to ask this before I greet it. Would you guys want to see

like a single father pursuit of happiness type Brave and the Bold? That's an F. That's an F. That's a zero. Not like sentimental, but like getting to know your son

type of stuff. I walk it out of the theater, bro. He walk out that place, start clapping. He got tears in his eye. He started clapping. If there's a scene

with Batman, closing his, foot on the bathroom door. I mean, it just, I guess there's got to be some, but I want to see a little murder scamp. I want to see you having to stop him

from chilling people. I'm thinking of Son of Batman, the animated movie. Yeah, basically, son of Batman. I think Grant Morrison's Batman and Robin Run is one of my favorite Batman stories of all time. I have to give this an A, just based off, if you're going to have, you're going to

have to do a Batman movie at one time, you could pick a lot worse than being like, all right, we're doing Damien. And for everybody complain, they're like, oh, Damien, I hate Damien, he's not my Robin. I'm like, A, we've gotten Dick Grayson and Tim Drake and all these motherfuckers for years, relax. Second of all, I'm going to be real. I do think in terms of like big budget movies, Damien to me is the, not the only Robin that works, but he is the robin of our time that people will. make the most seriously.

Like, you need an assassin-type Robin for people to get over the fact that this is a little kid running around beating up villains. And it helps in this situation that he's actually Batman's son. Yeah. Because the, you know, because the whole situation with Batman just having somebody like chill out at his crib that he picked up off the street and stuff, you know, people look at that with the side eye nowadays, you know. But I'll tell you this.

Oh, what were you saying? Yeah, well, Steve, what's your great? I'll give this a N A as well. Like Grant Morrison, again, like you said, Charles, you could do a lot worse, and we certainly have seen the gambit of stories that Batman has been telling, and Grant Morrison is relatively untouched from this.

So I'm going to give this an A. Nah. Yeah, no. I'm going to keep my... I'm going to fucking... But if they give us, like, a Damien Wayne, like a real, like, real, little shit, Damian Wayne.

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Taking its cues from the recent Tom King written miniseries, this movie promises a different take than what most think when it comes to Superman's cousin. We will see the difference between Superman who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he was an

infant versus Supergirl, It's on a rock, a chip off Krypton, and who watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life. God damn! And then she came to Earth. She's coming to fuck shit up. She is much more hardcore and not the supergirl that we are used to. Did you guys read this comment? No.

No. I read the first few issues. This is definitely like a supergirl who is very lost, a drunkard almost. It's like a space. Western in a lot of ways. It's like flashing back to those old serials, those Buck Roger type swash buckling space things.

So I'm actually excited for this one. I think a Supergirl movie can work absolutely. And I'm, yeah, I just think Tom King, write some good comics. Also write some comics I don't like. So going to give this one a strong B plus. I'm going to give it a B.

But this B is a strong. solid B, which means I'm open to them getting this movie right. A little massage when you coming off this B. Why aren't you a big fan of Supergirl? You don't think women deserve to be super? Jesus Christ. Crazy. This is actually, this one.

I would like to petition for a petition for a transgression on that one. No, no, because I was asking a question that you tell. Because hanging, hey, you know, I didn't duck anything. There are plenty of female characters. Why are you a big fan of Supergirl, huh? There are plenty of female characters. You know what? I don't like, and I've told you guys this before,

I don't like these off-shoot-ass characters, and I've told you guys this. I don't like bat-wing, bat chap. Wait, Supergirl is not an awful? Dude, stop. Bat-chap. How the fuck is she not an off-shoot-ass character? What are you talking about?

Of course, there's an offshoot. Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's levels to this shit. There is like ASAP Rocky, ASAP FERG, and the rest of the mob. Like, there is levels. First of all, shout out to my nigger Twelvie. and the rest of the people, oh my God.

Like, bro, what the hell, bro? Like, my bad. Like, but, but I'm,

I'm serious. Like, let's be real. But let's be real. There's a difference. I don't like super boy. That has nothing to do. I'm not a super boy.

Like, bat wing, batwing is like C string at best. Like, that's different. I don't like, bat girl, bat woman. You don't have anything against.

Robin, do you? Robin is a different character. He is a embedded sidekick, okay? I don't like Superboy. That's not my thing. What about She-Hulk? You ain't never saying nothing about She-Hulk. I don't really fuck with, I liked the show, but I never really fucked with She-Hulk like that.

I don't like Spider-Women. I'm not an offshoot character guy. I'm not. I'm not an offshoot character guy. You know what I mean? Offshoothed character, not my thing. What about Miles Morales? That's a different.

That's not different. That is different. Because he was the new Spider-Man. Offshoothed character, that's like saying, okay, listen, hear me out. Hear me out. It's a difference between being an offshoot character and being the new version of a character. Like Wally West or somebody like that that would then be the new Flash. But before he's a different generation.

With the Flash, he was Kid Flash. I know. I'm not into Kit Flash. Flash and all of that shit. If you're a new The Flash, if you're a new Green Lantern, then it's a different iteration of the character. It's mantle sharing.

But I'm not a big fan of offshoot characters like that. Miles Morales was the new Spider-Man. Stop playing with me. In Miles Morales's universe, Peter Parker is dead. It's not Peter Parker. You'd be Spider-Man on the weekend. I don't know. The new 616

universe, he basically Spider-Boy. Yeah, well, what I'm saying right now is that it's not against Supergirl. It's against the fact that I don't like offshoots like that. And I can have my opinion without being a massagious. I'm going to give this a B plus. Okay. No, I like the idea of Supergirl coming in as a pretty big, like, I don't say as a foiled Superman a little bit. Like, not to say that these paths will cross immediately in each other's movies.

I kind of hope that they don't, matter of fact. This is a fun idea. I really, really like this. I haven't read the Tom King run, but I know that this was a fun version of the character. All this reminds me of is that in the last episode of Young Justice, the teaser was Supergirl coming and joining the team, and we'll never get to see that coming to fruition.

So real pain in my heart seeing this right now. I will give it a... What's up? I was going to say before you give you a grade, was it a pain in your heart that James Gunn, green lit creature commandos. I don't want. We'll get to.

We'll get there. We'll get there. A go give you some new young justice. Gotta give this a B. You know, excited to see where they take the character. But, you know, who knows? This kid, this kid rock or cannot? I've never seen Jomey like this.

Charles, do you want to give the same criticisms towards Jonee? That you get, you really gave it a B plus too. So, like, it's really, we have all the same grade. Here's a thing, but my brother, Jomi, is hurting today. All right, so I don't want to do them like that. Why is Jomey hurting today? Because all of his favorite TV shows keep getting canceled. They got rid of that shit.

That should tell you something, Jomey. That should tell you something that they keep canceling all of your shit like that. Maybe your shit not lit, bro. Well, here's the thing. Like, every day I wake up and I'm like, man, I can't wait to watch this show. And then whatever had, like, reboot, I just found out got canceled on Monday. I was like, dog, what do y'all want for me? What am I supposed to do out here in these streets?

I watch the shows. I pay for the service. And they come in like, hey, appreciate you, man. Thanks for the $9.99 a month. That show you like, though, goodbye. See you later. Adios. It's funny about reboot.

Like, I get off the interstate, get off the 10, you know, coming down Robertson. And then I pass by when you swing back on, you're getting on the thing. and I see all these ass for reboot. And I think to myself, who's watching that? Like, who's, who, I watched it. I watched the first season. It's good. It's good.

Okay. I'm not hating on reboot. I'm just, I just never heard the reboot discourse. And so I'm thinking to myself. I think that's why he got canceled. That's what exactly. Yeah.

It wasn't trending enough. Okay. Lanterns. It's a new take on space cops with power rings. Our vision for this is very much in the vein of true detective. Interesting. Safra described, it's terrestrial based. Maybe it'll have the Dadario lady in it.

It will feature prominent lantern heroes, Hal Jordan, and John Stewart. I had thoughts about this. And it was one of the most important shows they have in development. This plays a really big role in leading into the main story we are telling across the film and TVverse. For some reason, I thought about, like, lethal weapon with power rings. That sounds great. Hold on. Hold on.

That sounds great. See, now I would be way more excited for that. Like, when you say true detective, I'm like, okay, whatever. If it was a lethal weapon, but with power rings, fuck yeah, a plus plus plus. This is the one for me that I am a little bit maybe in the, like, undecided about. Something like this could really work. what they said, I'm having trouble envisioning it, though.

That's what I'm at. The potential is high. The potential is high for this. It could be the thing that, like, is easiest to mess up, I feel. Because... Let's be real. True detective ain't even true detective anymore.

That's what... No, that's fair. Like, okay, fine, season one, true detective. I don't know how you do that with Green Lantern. But if you make that a, you know, a relatively, you know, grounded, you know, investigative, not procedural, maybe, like, just more of it.

How do you grounded, though? That's what I don't, you know what I mean? Ground it, like, make the stakes more tangible than, like, just being like space cops. Well, here's the thing. I was ready to give this, like, an A plus plus plus because, like, I love the Greenlanders. I want to see them do Green Lanham stuff. But the more we talk about it, it's like, it's threshold base. Just imagine John and Howe just, like, in a van, just going from person to person.

No, no, no. So they made it with their mind. So it's just a green van. emanating from the ring. Hey, you know, we saw, Parallax might be out in the streets. Have you seen him? No.

Okay, cool. Like, I don't know. Like, I kind of want to see them do cool space stuff, not like be earthbound. You know what I mean? Like, where's OAA? And obviously, I guess they'll have to. I just,

the only reason why I'm kind of not sure what's a great is because I don't really know what they said. I don't really know how it works. Maybe it's just how Jordan thinking about, you know, time is a flat circle. And John Stewart is just like the Woody Harrelson character just being like, we shut up and just solve the crime.

If I would be real, though, it's James Gunn. I'm like, yo, you made Guardians of the Galaxy, bro. You know how to do this. Just give me a Green Lantern movie. Like, just give me a Green Lantern in space, fucking Owa, Sinestro core, all that shit. Like, all the rings. Just give me the lantern. We'll take the ride with you.

I don't want the like kind of expensive but not totally hey we're on earth and we're cops but we also have rings. Okay. So I'm going to go B minus. Okay. Just because. Yeah. Just because no, it's a B minus. That's an 89 or an 88.

Okay. This is a math is killing. This way you grade in his wild. You guys have never heard of a six-point grading scale? No, I have heard of a six-point grading scale. It's a different curve than most of us. I think 4.0 is generally the accepted one. Yeah.

But it, so I'm going to go B-minus here, and I'm holding out hope that it's a B-plus to an A-minus. What do you guys think? Charles? I hate to do this. I'm going to C-plus. Not because I, I think it's going to be bad just because I think we've seen it on the Disney Plus side of it all.

Part of me, this way that they're like, we're doing TV shows and movies, part of me just wishes I'm just like, hey, y'all, for the first chapter, we could just stick to the movies, man. Like, just give me a Green Lantern movie. Like, let's cook. With everything going on financially on the HBO backside, I'm a little worried. So I'm going to C plus. You know what? You just, you said they around me a Titans.

Gotta get it sub-beam, man. Gotta get it to be. Titans was good. Was good. Rest in peace, Titans. See, Titans. And they, Titans was good and it was just starting to get great.

Like, it was, like, this, the last, that was, it was, it was stuff was really going well. They played me, bro. I really, well, they played both of us. Man, they play both of us. I really want to be excited about this. But again, like, terrestrial base, they're going to be cops. I mean, they are space cops, but, like, cops on Earth is less cool than being cops in space. So, got to give this a B.

I'm putting in an A only because of two things. I love the Green Lantern story, and I hope that, like, I know that the terrestrial base and, like, true detective vibes are a bit, like, confusing. But to know that this is the most important film to them that they want to put out, I feel like they want to make this right and they want to make this good. And with that, I want to give it an A because if they really put their whole. force behind this one, this could be really really... This is a film or a show. It's not a film. It's an A series. It's a show. It's a show. It's a show to Steve sided with cops on the first day of Black History Month.

All right. I see it. Well, actually, that's a transgression. That's my transgression. Yeah. For Jomey, we all agree to be nicer to Steve. Because we're getting... That means, I can take that one. I can take that one. I don't need to be... By the way, if there's one person that's being a hall monitor with the transgressions, then that in it of itself is a transgressions.

No, it's not. No, it's not. Arjuna is on the Navy. A snitch transgression for Charles, Charles 69 over here. Paradise Lost. This HBO Mac series is described as a Game of Thrones-style drama

said on the all-female island that is Wonder Woman's birthplace in mascara. Filled with political intrigue and scheming between power players. It takes place before the events of the Wonder Woman films. Okay. D. D.

D. D. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. If it was really like Game of Thrones. Like for real. I would give it an A for obvious reasons. Yes. Soft transgression? Oh, man.

What? If it's really like Game of Thrones. I will give it an A and I think it has a chance to be one of the greatest shows that's ever been made. If it was actually like Game of Thrones, okay?

Right. Okay? Because it would be a lot of fun to watch. I don't think that it will be. I don't think that they are going to do that because that would be wild. Okay? So I don't know how much I care

about that story. And I just, and Charles is going to come back at me with a transgression to say that I'm a misogynist. Oh no, we're on the same side. We're not massaging side, but we're on the same side, man. I don't know how much I care about

anything like that. So I don't know if I'm alone in this. Can I ask you this? This is my thing. Has there ever, in the history since Game of Thrones became Game of Thrones, has a sentence ever, a pitch ever ended well when they're like, yeah.

we're making our own Game of Thrones every single time we're like, bro, like stop stepping on the rake, okay? Just make your own thing. That's what scares me. Whenever anybody tries to recreate Game of Thrones, I only am like, okay, this isn't really Game of Thrones.

Maybe y'all should have done something. But it's also pre-Wonder Woman. So, like, what are we doing here? Like, what's the point? What's the hook? Yeah, cool. But the, character who we care about who's going to be in these films is not here.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Bold statement. Okay. If this show is good, D.C.'s entire slate will knock it out of the part. Let me tell you why I mean.

This is a show that nobody should give a fuck about. Yo. I'm just being for real. Right. No, keep going. Like with with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, a bunch of characters who we don't really know that well with divorcing the

this is even not like the Gotham Knights because at least we know them super well from years and years of their proximity to Batman. If they can make this show good and if this show weaves itself into the fabric of a larger DC universe and it can be something that people really like, this tells me that they know what they're, they're doing and that they have things going right. Because to Greenlight this show, a Wonder Woman show with no Wonder Woman, okay,

it's almost kind of like Krypton. When Krypton came out, I was like, I mean, don't you need like a real strong Superman situation in order to have Krypton be popping? Like, I'm not saying that Krypton was whack because I actually used to fuck with Krypton a little bit. But what I'm saying is like, you thought you were going to get seven Cs. of just like a Superman world with no Superman in it. It's just, it's, it was, it's tough.

And it didn't work, right? People didn't fuck with it. And that showed you that they didn't have the strong, if this works, then they really, really have a well-oiled cohesive story. They're saying this takes place before the events of the Wonder Woman films. Are they talking about the, the Dowel of Wonder Woman films or potential Wonder Woman films that are coming?

I would, I would say, the that's tough. You don't know. You don't know. Because if they're trying to just wipe the slate clean from any Wonder Woman,

they could just say, this is before Wonder Woman. They don't need to say the Wonder Woman films. What Wonder Woman films? Like, that's kind of just muddying the waters a bit. Okay, just wanted to know.

I'm assuming that they're going to bring her back as Wonder Woman. It's possible. What it sounds like you're describing Van, for a show that doesn't have its main titular character that's reeked with political intrigue that if they make it work,

it could be the greatest thing ever. It doesn't sound like Game of Thrones. It sounds like Andor. It sounds like something that they can completely make something that's whole cloth and make some really good, interesting plays for characters that we don't even really know about that well. And it could be that good. I'm not saying it's going to be that good,

but it sounds like something that they could shoot for. Steve. Andor is the titular character in Andor. Okay, you get what I mean then. And he is in Andor, Steve. Yeah, but this isn't. called Wonder Woman Lost. This is called Paradise Lost.

I understand, Steve. But this show, I understand what you mean, and I agree with you. Okay. Steve, let me build a bridge. Because too often, let me build a bridge. Because too often, what you're saying is, it's a show, you just said what you said.

You don't need me to paraphrase. But what I'm saying is, in this particular show, I think that there is a difference in that we're in the world of Wonder Woman. And the character does. doesn't exist. And I can't say that, like, they haven't done enough to make us really care about them askear like that. Like, we really cared about, like, Westeros and all of that stuff. So you could bring us back there. Like, it's just going to be a, it's going to be a, it is going

to be a task to pull off. But it's one of those high risk, high reward shows to where if they can get this right. To your point, I understand what you're saying by Andor. Andor is completely different spent on Star Wars. And they were able to do it. So it kind of solidifies things. Can I just say really quick? This is the first day of Black History Month. And what we've seen is history on the Midnight Blues. All right.

Martin Lathen Jr. King just built a bridge to Steve. Instead of bullying him, just understood, was willing to listen. That's what we want more of on the spot. Thank you guys. Content of his character. And now I know that, you know, his home life was probably a little bit rockier than I thought. Oh, right. Wow.

We're literally back. Didn't you last. And the bridge is burnt. So here's a thing, right? And I want to be very clear about where I'm coming from here. Because I am the ages. I'm the age as a show guy, right? You know, I know how these things go.

What's the point of this? Let's be very clear. What's the point? Like, why, why would I tap into this? You know? Even Asians and still had Colson in it, though, bro. That's what I'm... You know, like...

If you bring me to a thing, like, what is going to keep me, like, okay, I watch Paradise Lost. What then happens in, you know, whatever, you know, follow-up event happens. I just, I'm, I got to go C-minus, man. I'm not really locked in on this, you know. Give me a reason to tap in. Give me a reason to, you know, to follow this thing along in the grand scheme of things, and we could talk, but C-minus for me. There's potential.

It's a tougher sell, but I think if they get it, it could be pretty good. I agree. C plus. C plus. C plus. Yeah. C plus.

It's rough. Look, it's just, of all the shows that they put out, this was the one where I was like, interesting. But it tells me that maybe they have something in store. Maybe there's a curveball there. that they have in store that maybe we're not seen. And at the end of the day,

when we look at all of these shows, that one has the most potential to be the show that's like, damn, they got it right and it means something for their universe. But to be clear to also the listeners, this is a hype report card. This isn't us saying, this is going to be bad. This is more so us being like,

am I excited about this? The pitch as it stands. How excited are we? Charles. Don't try to double- back now. Just send your money over to Romania to help Bill

Andrew Tate out of jail. Like people know where you stand. You don't like the all women movie. What the fuck, man? This is why I'm coming at you. Send your money over to Romania. No, because

the reality is that when I said I didn't want that I wasn't that hype about Supergirl, it was all of a sudden okay. All of a sudden, I was in the mannosphere. Hey, Hustle is University.

No. All right. Okay. The authority. This will be an interesting one because these are characters that I know that are really fucking hardcore

that I don't know if the rest of you guys are super familiar with. Anyway, a movie based upon a team of superheroes with a rather extreme methods of protecting the planet that first originated in the late 1990s under an influential imprint

known as Wild Storm. You guys might not remember Wildstorm. Run by artists and now head of DC publishing Jim Lee. They are kind of like Jack Nixon and a few good men. They know that you want them on the wall, or at least they believe that. Now, there's one guy who's a Superman character. There's another

guy who there's Apollo. He's the he's the Sun guy. And then Midnighter is the Batman. The Batman guy. And then they have, have this one character that was super cool. I can't remember his name. But it was like,

whatever city he was in, he, like, embodied the spirit of the city. Oh, Jack Hock's more. Yeah. He took, like, the spirit of the city. And then there was a lady with wings that got her powers

when, like, a meteor, like, Zoom by the... I can't remember as much as a bottom because... But they were fucking rough. They were, like, they were hard core. That was Jim Lee kind of getting his little shit off.

I don't remember as much, but we, you know, late 90s and stuff I was first getting the college, like we were reading Wild Storm and reading the authority. That's going to be an interesting world. I got to give this a B. All right. I got to give this a B. I would like to give it a B plus, but I got to give it a B because I was excited, but I hadn't heard anyone talk about the authority.

authority in so long. So I got to give it a beat to kind of see how it was. I'm interested. I'm interested in it. I want to see it. But I really have a lot of questions as to how, as to what they do. I want to see it, though. Those are some there's some cool characters. There's not a lot

of meat on the bone, as much meat on the bone as maybe they would be with some other stuff. But I can't remember everybody that was in it. Steve, do you have a list of, I feel like you guys are reading off a list? You guys have a list. I have a list of it. Because I also, I read the authority, like a couple years ago. It was originally created in 1999. It was Warren Ellis and Brian Hitch. And then

Mark Millar and Frank Whiteley did a second run. These are both very celebrated. And the thing about the authority is like, I'm going to get into my comic book bag is that what makes the authority weird is, if people don't know who Brian Hitch is, he ended up doing, him and Mark Millar were the creators of the Ultimates. That was like the Avengers in the Ultimate universe. You guys remember that, right? Of course. And that was what the MCEU was based on. So when I hear the authority, I'm essentially like,

so you're basically doing a DC version of the boys and the ultimates, but you're going back to the source. Like this is the source. When you go, like, when we're talking about very violent, very militant heroes, super realistic, this is like where it all comes from. And my question to you, you then is we live in a

living in a post boys world do you think the audience is way more ready for this or is it almost like this is something that should have been released 10 years ago I think that they're probably way more ready for it but because I do think that

ambiguous heroes work I mean when we're going to see a couple of stories like this come out they're doing irredeemable which I just can't wait for that's a A plus plus plus plus plus but I do think that even like with stuff like Violent Night

you go to watch Violent Night and Santa is fucking people up you know and I think that people are are ready for a darker turn on some of this stuff and maybe this is some balance but these characters are the boys is a send-up of this so it's different

this is serious when I say this is the source, this is act, because it was in 1999, the boys is almost, to your point, it's a satire. That's where all of the comedy comes from. The authority was, it had those elements of a send-up,

but it was very much like, no, we are taking superheroes to the most realistic military origins that we can think of. And that's my reason where, I don't think it's a bad idea. It's just, if this comes out in like 2026, 2027,

I wonder if we're a little too, tired of it because we're in a world of Invincible. We're about to get Invincible season two. By the time this comes out, we'll probably have three, four seasons of Invincible. You feel me? It just seems a little bit out of time. My question for you guys, y'all think this is just like a guardian stand in? Like, hey, you got these weird cookie characters, you know, that, you know, are they good?

Are they bad? They do bad things for good reasons. I don't know. I honestly feel like one other thing on this list is, going to be a guardian stand-in, but it's not going to be this. I actually think to your point, Jomey, what this actually seems like a stand-in is think about it. The actual crown jewel of wherever they're going is them convincing us that they can do a Justice League. The authority almost seems like them putting their, like, foot into the pool,

getting the temperature, because worst-case scenario, you fuck up the authority. And, like, to be honest, there are only a couple people in the world who are just like, oh, the authority. Versus if you fuck up a Justice League movie, we might as well just sunset the whole operation. I think this is them testing whether they can do it.

I see the vision. I'm intrigued. I wouldn't say that I'm excited. I would say I'm intrigued. Maybe not hyped. Intriged. I'm going to give it a B as well. I'm going to go then. Like, not super hyped, but has potential. I am going to say a B minus.

I don't know these characters, as well you guys do, but if James Gunner's going to do one thing, it's going to take pluck characters from obscurity and turn them into fun little household names. So I'll say B-minus. C-minus. C-plus

for me, only because Charles's boys' comp actually kind of wore me down a little bit, where I'm like the beauty of the boys is that it's not connected to any superhero brand like the Marvels of the D.C.'s of the world, and I think that's where they can actually get away with a lot more than

maybe what the authority might be looking to do if this is a one-for-one boys' comp. And by the time this comes out, I'm not really sure what it'll be saying, but it's intriguing, but it'll be a C-plus for me. Creature Commandos, a seven-episode animated series

written by James Gunn that's already in production. Originally a team of classic monsters assembled to fight Nazis, this is a modern take on the concept. The voice actors have yet to be cast. but the executives are looking to find people you can voice the animated series and then come back and portray the live action versions

where the anti-heroes show up in movies and in series D, couldn't care less. Hopefully it's good. Hopefully it's good. This is something that they want to do, and I'm sure it's going to, don't care, couldn't care less. Not really into monsters and shit like that anyway.

Although I am, we'll get to a swamp thing later. But yeah. D. Yeah, I'm giving this. I'm giving this. I can be quick on this. I just, this is one of those things where I'm just like,

sure. Okay. Yeah, I guess. If you want to. But I don't give a fuck at all. They cancel and everything. They canceled my shit. They canceled Young Justice for this.

F. F. F. This one, doing? I can't get season five of your justice because you got to do this. F. F minus. F minus. Also, who is this for?

Who's Creature Commandos for? Like, I'm like, at least Young Justice, no matter how I'm just like, bro, that got Robin in it. That got Nightwing in it. That got Superboy in it. Like, Creature Commandos? Like, what? Who are these people? Yeah. Get it. Come on, man. Yeah, this will be a D for me as well.

I'm not really sure. The only intriguing thing about this is that they're looking for voice actors to play their live action counterparts, which I kind of also disagree with. I think we've gotten a lot of great performances from voice actors in DC animated films that are just not the actors that play them. And like sometimes that's not a one for one comparison. I think that's a little bit of a backwards way of looking at it. But yeah, the concept is like, okay, fine for me. D. Waller and a spinoff of James Gunn's own HBO Max series peacemaker,

Gaviole Davis will return as the ruthless and morally ambiguous head of a government task force is being written by Kristall Henry, Watchman, and Jeremy Carver, the creator of the Doom Patrol series. You guys are going to be surprised here. A. Yeah. I love the character of Amanda Waller in all of the different iterations that they've had her in. I want to know more about her as it relates to her time. in the DCU. I want to see how she is running everyone.

I think a series about Amanda Waller has the opportunity to be fantastic. It has the opportunity to be a centralized story that also is a cameo haven of interconnectability and really can set this. I am very intrigued to see in what they do. And I loved Watchman, and I loved Doom Patrol, I'm in, give me a A.

Hey, you got your A, you got your A. Y'all go, y'all go. I can't. I'm giving this an A too. I'm freaking love Viola Davis in this role. And I think that the fact that she's consistently down for something like this is really, really great. The fact that they've got a lot of great people behind this one,

cameo heaven for sure, kind of getting us a lot of good intrigue as to why she is the way that she is. I think that this is great. Give me an A. Sign me up. I'm in. Love a spinoff of a spinoff. I do love Viola Davis. That's my home girl. Howta Gay Were a Murder. That was my show on Thursdays. I was locked in.

And they didn't cancel that one. So that's a point for Jami. I'm going to give this one. I'm going to give it an A minus. I'm going to give it A minus. I am interested to see where they go with this, you know, get to see John Cina's peacemaker again, which I never thought I'd say. But I'm excited to re-answer that. universe. So A minus for me.

You know, I'm not feeling well on grading day. So there was a substitute. So can we put like an N.A? Your grade? Give your grade. Because all you do is play yourself. That's your favorite thing. I'm going to give this a C. I don't care.

Like, I just don't. I just don't give a fuck. I don't know. Not really. Like, give me a suicide squad like TV show at this point. Like, I think Waller is a very interesting character. She's a legendary character.

But I've never watched anything that Amanda Waller has been in and be like, man, you know it would be dope if you took all the people around her out of it and you just made her the central character. I've just never, I don't even think she operates like that as a character. That's not what makes her brilliant. So, yeah, I just, it's fine. If they did a Nick Fury show with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, what. Sam Jackson, would you feel the same?

Kind of like you need the other? I mean, is that more or less Secret Wars? A Secret invasion? This isn't me saying Waller or secret, like secret invasion is going to be bad. It's just like I think Nick Fury is a similar hero where or at least a similar character where the most interesting thing about Nick Fury is how he bounces off of all of the other characters. The minute you make him the prime focus, I'm like, I will see.

Fine. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. Okay. You guys already know what this next one's going to be. A triple plus. Yeah.

You guys already know because I basically predicted this. I basically just threw this out, having no idea that they were going to the man. Booster Gold. An HBO Mac series based on a unique lesser-known hero created in 1986. South percent of the series, it's about a loser from the future who uses baseball. basic future technology to come back today and pretend to be a superhero.

Imposter syndrome as a superhero. I am there a plus. Remember when we were talking about this? And I was like, I think they should do booster gold. Yeah, I always love booster gold. I think booster gold is great. I think booster gold is funny. Booster gold is pathetic.

Busher gold is strangely powerful. I love booster goal. A plus can't wait. As long as they nail the casting, a couple of people are saying that, what's your man that plays the deep? What's his name? Chase Coffert? Yeah, that he should be Booster Gold.

That would be really good. I can't wait to see Booster Gold. I like Booster Gold. Booster Gold. I was just watching the episode of Justice League Unlimited, where Booster Gold, like, he joins the Justice League, and they have him, like, on the sidelines, basically. He's like, no, man, I could be real here. And he has to, like, admit, like, I'm a fraud, baby.

Like, I ain't nobody. Ain't nothing. And it's such a good episode. Give me an A for this. I'm locked in. I'm booster gold. I can't wait. I'm just like, bro.

Like, give me the meat and potatoes, bro. We're talking about booster gold. Like, nigga, no. What the fuck? And yo, I'm bugging booster gold. I bought booster gold comics. Like, I've spent my. own money on Booster Go comics.

Like, I fuck with Booster Gold. But dog, come on, man. B minus. Like, whatever. It's because we don't, we're not getting like a Harley Quinn show that you want. It's because we're not getting like something that's like, heavier. Give me the splashy shit. All right.

That's why. Which would have been what? Which would have been what? Which would have been what? Like, what, like, they gave you Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman with no Wonder Woman. With no Wonder Woman. When lanterns with not a movie and it's on earth, it's like it's almost,

yo, just do the Justice League. Just give me Green Lantern, give me Flash, give me Wonder Woman, give me, give me, Mark and they are giving you flash. Like, they are giving you flash. Flash is coming, so they can't give you flash here. Let me change what I said. Give me a flash that can actually go on a press run.

You know what I'm saying? That's what I would like. They're going to go. the flesh run. They're going to go on the first run just like the flash. Is it's going to go on the press run? No. It's going to be, they're going to go on a press run and it's going to be exactly like the flash.

It's going to be whoosh. It's like, it's going to be like, whoosh. As well, they were just here. Woosh, gone. What did they say? Nothing. Okay? So it'll be a press run. It'll be a fast one just like the flash. You know what I'm saying?

Anyway, so Charles, Steve, what do you guys give him? B-plus, this is going to be my guardian stand-in. This was going to be the thing that I thought that James Gun wanted to put a lot of force behind because this is a character that's goofy, funny, has a lot of heart, but kind of also is a bit of a shit. I love the idea of booster gold being a show. It's going to be a lot of fun, B-plus. Okay.

Swamp thing. Horror film that promises to close out the first part of, the first chapter of the new DCU. I love Swamp Thing, okay? I love Swamp Thing. I'm from a place of swamps. And sometimes you go back into a swamp, like the Chaffalaya,

where my father's from. That's a piece, Dad. And you feel like the swamp is alive. I mean, it's obvious alive, but you feel like there's a soul, like all the wildlife and the plant life in the ecosystem of the swamp, that it's one spirit. If you're back in there, you know,

you look around, you might hear whoosh, an alligator might be going into the, you might see a big ass snake or whatever, and it feels like it's all working together. So Swamp Thing and the way that he is, it was always a very spiritual thing for me, watching Swamp Thing be his own walking ecosystem, because that's kind of like the essence of the swamp.

I've always loved Swap Thing, the Swap, man. So I'm into it. Hey, wow, Van, I really loved everything that you said right there. That was really poignant. D. Wow. It's D minus. Are you a D-Modagh, motherfucker?

Giving a D-minus to Swamp thing. What is the wrong with you? How dare you? Y'all just looking for attention now. I'm not interesting. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So there's a couple of things. There's a couple things going on.

You gave Waller an A-minus, bro. There's a couple of things going on. Hold on. First of a thing is great. Swampi had a great show a couple of years ago. Yes, that they canceled. They canceled. That wasn't my fault.

I didn't tap into that. Let me, let me. I'm honest with you. I'm not there yet on Swamp thing. Got to keep it a buck. I've seen, like, in a couple of shows, in main appearances, I'm like, cool. You know, he was in a, what, Harley Quinn and Batman. Remember, he's been in, like, a couple, like, Young Justice, you know, even the, this

last season, Harley Quinn. He was a character. And like a whole, a whole movie, like a whole or a whole film, I don't even like horror to begin with. You know, so you got to, you know, drag me to the theater to see a scary Swampman movie. Ah, that's not where I'm at. That's not what I'm about, player. It's not, it's not how I get down, man. Keep it a buck. I'm giving this a B plus because it's just a layup. It's just like, if you're thinking of, we need a horror movie near the think of the character. It's just like, of course,

white people love Swamp Thing. Like, Alan Moore, all that shit, white people love them some Swamp Thing. It's like a little. What? Do white people not love Swamp Thing? I just think he could reach across the aisle a bit more as well.

Like, it's not just white people that like Swamp Thing. Yeah. Steve, why did that, hold on, hold on, hold on. Why did that offend you? No, no, it didn't offend me. It's like, you know, no.

You have that look in your eye. He's putting Swamp Thing in a box. I don't want him to put him in a box. That's fair. That's fair. So you're like, you're like, you don't want to take responsibility for Swamp Thing, do you? You don't want to be the only person into Swamp Thing? I'm responsible for Swamp Thing, too.

I'm giving an A plus. Also, this is where you're ending your, your Chapter 1 with Swamp Thing? Yeah. Oh, wait. He's ready to take the Man Thing. This is where I push back. Y'all motherfuckers was Booster Gold and Amanda Waller up the fucking wall now. Now it's Swampers.

I'm thinking you change your tune. Again, those, first of all, television shows, right? Like, when I stopped, like, if they were like, Jomey, man, the end of phase one, you got to see it on, you gotta go watch HBO Max. Disney Plus, I'd be like, guys, what are we doing? Right? So, I'm not really, I'm not, you know,

that doesn't really affect it as much. Whereas, guys, it's the end of phase one. Where you got to go see, like, you, like, think about it. We had, like, Avengers Age Ultra. and they were like, guys, if you want to see the phrase roll out, go watch Ant Man. I love Ant Man. I know the streets was not messing with an ant man like that.

I know people and were like, we just seen Avengers. We're not going to watch Ant Man. I mean, I'm going to go to the crib. What do you mean? This is kind of like the same thing. You got to, I'm going to have to see it. I'm going to have to see it.

I'm going to show me. I'm on your side. And with all that, D minus. D minus. Van, what was your score for this? A. I love Swamp Thing. I watch Swamp Thing in all of the iterations,

but I can understand how people feel. All right, extra credit. DC Elseworld's projects, Batman, the Batman sequel, it's called the Batman Part 2. And the Joker sequel, The Joker La Caja Falle, or whatever, what do you call it?

Folly Adieu. Polly Adieu. Polly Adieu. The Joker, Paul Abdu. The Joker, Paul Abdu. It's that bad falli adieu. Boy record. Whoa, how dare you, Steve?

How dare you? You're from Chicago. I'm ashamed of you. I know. That's why I could say that. So this was happening. These films are separate. The Batman sequel,

Robert Pattinson will play the Batman again. Maybe he will smile. And this movie will come out October 3, 2025, Batman Part 2. Now, the question is, how do we feel? Can two Batman's be important at the same time?

Can you get into elseworld's Batman? Can you get in and at the same time getting to the DCU Batman? You guys feel this is gonna work because we're gonna do this twice. So my question is...

With this entire slate and this is why I don't want to actually be that mean to Saffron or gun because a lot of this slate seems you can see the politicking at play where you can't, films that gross to a billion dollars

or something like Teen Titans Go, which is probably if we're talking about how much money it makes in merchandising, in advertising, in advertisement, just out the room. There's a level of this whole phase where you're just like, we can't cancel these things.

They make us too much money. But there is also a Andrew Garfield effect to this where I'm just like, why should I care about two Batman? And also are we going to get to a place where essentially your else worlds

is making you more money than your mainline universe? What happens if the Batman part two makes more money than the first Superman movie? Well, I think there's a good chance that it does. And I think that DC has to be prepared for this.

I think not only that, but with the Joker, Paula Abdul coming out. That movie being what it is, having Harley Quinn and the Joker with the talent that they have behind some of these things.

You know, we're talking Pattinson, Cravitz, we're talking about goddamn Lady Gaga, you know, who plays the Joker again? Walking Phoenix. Oscar winner Walking Phoenix. Walk the line. You know what I mean?

We're talking about all of these guys. So there's a chance that it does. That cannot distract them from what it is that they are doing, which is trying to make an integrated woven together universe. There's no way that I could make an argument that the Batman too will outgross all of the movies that are in this slate. Except maybe Brave and the Bold, but even then it might still, because it's Matt Reeves, it's Patenton.

it's just so big. People are locked in. Yeah, people are locked into that. And it's a second Batman movie. Like, my question for y'all is, let's say this, let's say the Batman part two goes dark night mode where it becomes something that we're all like, yo, this is the biggest best critical thing we've ever seen in superhero movies. What do you do that? Like, how do you look at the brave and the bowl? What you mean? What you do? You put the other one out too. It's like, I mean, like, what are you like?

Like, what do you mean? What do you do? Like you, you, the both movies are, the movie. That don't seem goofy, yo. That's like wild. That's what you do. That's what they have to do. Yeah.

I know they have to do it. It's just as a consumer, I'm a little bit like, bro. I don't really think it matters that much. If you're James Gunn and you're Peter Schaffron, he's just like, hey, man, great job. You green light a third one. And they're like, cool, we keep it pushing. Like, it's really that simple. I don't

If anything, I would say that Oh, I'm sorry Steve, go ahead, I mean this point No, no, no, you're okay. I just think that we're past a point where people are going to be, the market's going to be confused as to what Batman is going to be what. Like, the general consensus will be,

oh, there's another Batman movie coming out. We will watch the new Batman movie coming out. When you want to build an MCU, when you want to build a whole other thing like this, this is kind of the groundwork. You want a sunset, kind of, the things that are going to be, the things that are also being making money and still viable. I think this Batman sequel, this Joker sequel,

like Walking Phoenix won an Oscar off of the Joker. This Batman first film made a whole bunch of money and was the best critically acclaimed thing that DC made in years. You can't ignore those things. And if you have to kind of just like kind of teeter the line outside of the margins of this other DC universe, that's fine because those will just make their money. And I don't think that people are going to be too confused about that.

A couple of things, one. We didn't give, we didn't give Joker a grade. I would have given that like a F minus, minus, minus. That's the thing. Like, it doesn't matter what we all think about it. Movie stinks. They're making it. It was, I guess, I guess it was, I guess I was okay with it when I first saw it.

Like, it was on. It aged so poorly. It was on and I was looking at it. H poorly. And Kalika walks in and Kalika goes, do I need to be concerned about you? I'm like, what? She's like, why would you like on a random Friday be sitting down watching this?

She's like, what's about to happen? What are you planning? You was watching this shit on a Friday? Friday? It was on. It was on. It was on. It was on.

Hey, free transgressions. You said, he said, he said age poorly. I left the theater like, this was garbage, man. Like straight up, I'm not the biggest fan. But also, to Steve's other point of, like, people get confused, Steve, you'll be surprised. People can't tell the left from their right. Oh, no, there are, what's going on. Definitely, oh, hold on.

There are definitely people that are going to be confused. What? People will absolutely be confused? Right. But will they care? Like, the people that will get confused won't be watching most of these. Exactly. It's not going to be that big of a deal.

It's not going to be that big a deal. People will get confused. ultimately the money will still roll in. Like, it's not that, it's not the end of the world. I know we ask this all the time, but I want to know from y'all, do you think people will care by the time like these movies come out? And by care, I mean, like, obviously there will always be like superhero fans that care. But, you know, we're going to be seeing Kang.

We're going to be seeing the X-Men. We're going to be seeing the Fantastic Four. See, if I was D.C., I would, if I was D.C., I would feel empowered by that. Hmm. Like, if I was D.C., I was D. would feel empowered by the fact that there is no catching up

right now. Stop fretting. Stop if I would feel empowered by the fact that Marvel is where they are because if the margin of error for Marvel in some of those

big huge movies is going to be very small because we have something to compare it to. DC, we really don't expect very much from them. So if they surprise us a couple of times, Jesus Christ, I'm just being for real. Like James Guntherner right now. So it's basically like Tristan Thompson bringing you flowers. You just like, they're trying. Okay. That's what you're saying. Yeah. Let him back in the house, man. Jamaican. You know, like, I think back in the house.

I think what's fun is, you know, we're talking about DC and Marvel. In 2015, we're going to get Batman part two Avengers Kang Dynasty Fantastic 4 and Superman we're gonna be eating good in 2025

ladies and gentlemen we're gonna be I just I just write an article about the fungus you know they just had like the fungus rides

because of global war but I'm like I read I read an article about the fungus I read an article about the earth's core I read an article

about the will I'm not, we're going to be at war. You know what I mean? We might be, we might be acting out Superman, Batman, the Brave and the Bowling the town to town. I embolden the spirit of the city. Right. Oh, my goodness.

Look, these are remaining questions. I'm only going to ask one of these because we gave a lot of people a lot of pot. Which do you think has the most potential? Of all this, think. What's the single one with the most potential? And I'm going to do something right here. You cannot say Batman because it's too easy. Shut up, Charles.

Okay. Why? You can't say Batman. Batman is out. Okay. So what do you feel like it has the most potential? So I'm tempted to take Superman out too. You know what?

Let's take Superman out as well. So Batman and Superman are gone. All right. Let's just take the crown jewels out. What else you don't think has the most potential? What do you feel like has the most potential? Right. It's obviously creature commandos.

Because that's our lowest collective score. Jomi, shut up, bro. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. They got rid of all HBO cut Batgirl. For this. Although they said They said

Batman said the meeting was unreleasable They said it was Trace They said it with So foul That's so foul We have to talk about that

That's guts They said They said Batman was Unreleasable Brerangestion on DC Jesus Christ Yeah

Why Hold on They put out They put out Black Adam Like what are you Talking about Unreleasable Black Adam

Steve, I think what occurred is they made this movie. They spent like what, a hundred and something million on Bad Girl to release it on streaming. You make, you make Black Adam, you like to get ticket sales back. Nobody's subscribing to HBO Max. I understand the economics of it, but to just call that shit, no, we couldn't put that out. That was tested. They've, on many occasions, they've been like, yeah, it was garbage. You cannot put that out.

I was like, God, dang. Oh, like, a lot of the shows y'all love. That's what I'm saying. I'm asking them. I'm like, why y'all putting this out? My thing is, we never saw Bat Girl. So there's a chance that Bat Girl is every bit as bad as what they say it is. And I think it's unfair that the movie wasn't put out.

I think it's unfair to the creators. It's unfair to her. It's unfair to everybody that worked on the movie. But it might be really, really, really bad. it might be so bad. It's got to be, right? That's for us to determine. That's for us to determine.

But here's my thing. If I was a CEO, I'd be like, you know what you're going to do to make some money back? Let's just do like a one-night engagement. Just put it in theaters for one night. Bro. I promise you, bro, if they said, hey, fuck it. One night only, we're going to put bad girl out. We're going to put bad girl out in a thousand theaters.

I'll go. Yeah. I'll go. Yes. Even if it's bad, I won't. be mad. I'll just be like, all right, cool, try it up to the game. Yeah. Now they're just making me want to see it more, to be honest.

I just want to see the movie. That'd be the first movie on Discovery Plus. On the dude, the new back service, Bad Girl. But you still got to pay $12.99. What can make it so unreleasable? Like, what, I wonder, I wonder if, like,

you get, you get 30 minutes into Bat Girl and Kevin Spacey pops out as Lex Luther. Like, what can make the movie? I'm going to say, what can make the movie? I don't even got to say Arjulagl. What can make the movie so unreleasedable? Like what, like what?

It's that bad. Like, they put out green, like, to your point, they put out Green Lantern. Like, there's been so many movies that have come out. I saw that second Wonder Woman movie. Come on, bro. Like, oh, man. I forgot about Wonder Woman 1984 until you did this exact moment.

All respect to the creators, but come on, bro. Rewing my Christmas. Ruined my Christmas. That shit ruined my holidays. Like, come on. Did you watch Wonder Woman in 1984 over here, Jomey? We had a watch party over here for it. Oh, no, because we weren't doing Midnight Boys yet, I don't think.

That was 2020. We had a watch party over here for it. And there was some long faces in this bitch. I mean, like, everybody was like, God, we were so excited because it was a pandemic. Our neighbors brought beanbags down. you know, and, you know, Bozeman was around being a little dog. It was so funny. He was, he was young.

You know, he was like a young Bozeman. He was very scrappy and whatever. And it just, it took all the wind out of ourselves how bad the movie was. My boy was like, hey, oh, y'all know, Nick. Nick was like, hey, man, this shit sucks in the middle of the movie. Wait, is Pedro? Pedro was in that movie. Yeah.

He was good, though. Pedro was good, though. He was in a different movie. Yeah, he was a much different movie. Yeah, let's answer Vance question. Let's start in reverse, Steve. Which one has the most potential? You can't choose Superman and Batman.

Paradise Lost. I really do think that, like, that's got a pretty big potential, but it's also got a, like, high ceiling, low floor for that one. Like, that could be incredible. And if it is, then you've got a lifelong fan. Like, I'll, I want to keep an eye on on. Paradise Lost. Show me.

I'm going to say lanterns for the sole reason that we finally get live action John Stewart. And I think that'll be important to people and people like that. And if they nail the buddy cop aspect, you know, whether it's true detective, whether it's, you know, rush hour, whether it's, you know, whatever they want to do with these two characters, if they nail that relationship, I think we're in for a good time. So I'm going to say lanterns. I'm going with lanterns. I think I was very harsh on lanterns.

I think if you can prove that you can get lanterns correct, even if it's like, let's say it's more true detective than I want. I don't give a fuck. If it's watchable and it's like good and gets people excited for a movie, I think that this has the most upside. So I'm going with lanterns. Ben, where are you going? I am going with the authority.

I think the authority has the opportunity to be the biggest tonal shift that we've seen, I think the authority has the opportunity to really rock the boat a little bit. I have to brush up a little bit. I haven't read it in a long time, but like when they said the authority, I was like, oh! You know what I mean? So I think the authority,

and they just could really, they're very cool looking characters. And that was one thing that was going on at Wildstorm at that time. You know, like when those artists and those guys got a chance to characters that were off the beating path from the stuff that they had been doing for Marvel in the D.C.

They drew really cool looking characters. And so I think it's the authority. Guys to the end of the podcast, yeah. Arjuna, are you there? What's up?

Do we have a transgressions count? I do. We'll start with... Well, wait. Before we begin, we got to collab with Charles and I. at the end of every recap for our transgressions we have a little intro for what we have to do for our transgressions I'm going to play this

these are my transgressions my transgressions my god oh hey man um listen uh

my god So with that we have a new segment These are my transgressions It's the first day of black extra month Let me not get into trouble Arjuna Arjuna please Please read out the transgressions

Steve had one Okay Jomey had Three Wow Charles had four Four Where's the fourth?

And Van, technically you had six because of the one from the last five in the actual. So he still won. He still got it. So he has one bled over from the first one that is not counted. It's just like the worst podcaster ever. Oh, okay. All right. That's it.

We love you guys. We're going to sit out a document. Jomey is they're going to let you guys great your hype for what's going on from D.C. Last question I'll ask just real quick before I wrap the show. You guys feel like after reading this

and talking about it, you feel like D.C. is in good hands? Yes. I think that there's a direction. I think that there's a North Star that we're going to be looking for. There's a lot of exciting projects. There's projects that we don't really even know what's going on with. But I think mostly we'll be there for most

this and I'm I'm excited to see what they actually have a plan for. Jomey, beyondish, you had a spicy ass look on your face. They're in better hands, right? It's nice, it's nice to have somebody with hands on the wheel than nobody at all.

Right. So we'll see how it goes. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. But yeah, it's much better. They're a much better spot than they were yesterday. And they were in,

you know, dumpsville yesterday. So we'll see. I can right there in good hands. Charles, do you do? Full me wants. shame.

I've been here before. I'm not judging until we get that super memo. Okay. All right. Okay. That's the wrap. Follow us on socials, Instagram,

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Me and Charles just did a podcast on that yesterday. talked about a lot of stuff me Charles and Kai Logic George here at the ring this Friday the House of R will be giving you a prep watch That's a transgression for next for next episode

Why? No it's not I can't be calling that man Logic bro That's a net name Oh my God There's way too many talented Light skiing motherfuckers out here to be like Logic But he looks like logic though

He whatever bro right this Friday the House of R will give you a prep watch list for Mando season three can't wait for that Wednesday the Midnight Boys will give you the long awaited sequel to the black superheroes draft okay

we're gonna do the black superheroes draft again but I'm gonna have some transparency with the audience here we're not sure what we should do differently in this draft than the last draft there's been some talk about maybe only drafting characters

that were left out of the last draft. In that case, we got six black characters to draft. No, there's a bunch of black characters? There's more. So you're telling me right now, Charles, that there's enough black characters left to draft that we didn't draft in the last one, that we could have

a full draft. Yes. I'm asking. I'm prepping. You've been pregnant. At least in my research, if we do villains, yeah, it opens, it opens the flesh. Okay, cool. Question then. Is that, what we should do then. Should we do

a black superhero's draft that does not include the characters that we did in the last draft? Is that what we should do? Yes, for sure. Definitely the ones that we drafted before are out. If we want to include villains, if we want to include bigger pop culture icons, we'll see other things from fiction, other things from fandom. And we're doing, we're doing a special

to make up for last time. We're doing a special category where we can draft one character that we believe is black, but it's not stated as such. An ambiguously black character. Here are the rules to that, though. This is what I propose. We should be able to draft a character

that is ambiguously black, but then we should also, as a group, have a small debate to the merits of that character's ambiguously black attributes. I don't want

I don't want people being like yo cable and then I'm like what you know what I'm saying so we should be able to like what about Reed Richards see what I'm saying we should be able to

he's a descendant of King he got black in his blood see is he a descendant of King or if King See what I'm saying? We should be able to have a conversation after about whether or not this character, these characters are actually ambiguously black or have anything black that's going on with them.

It's all I'm saying. Okay, cool. I'm glad that we're on the same page with all of that. That's next Wednesday. You guys are not going to want to miss that. Credits. Our producer is Steve, the architect Alman. Jomi, the explainer or dinner on on social media, hashtag Pimp Jomi's Rides.

He needs that Celine S-7. Additional production and transgression count by are Juno Rom Gapal, Charles, Sinaii. The report cards are in. James Gunn is our new boss. Apologies to Mr. Saffron, but I truly don't give a fuck about Barrett's loss. I don't need to see Michael B. Jordan

saving Sidney's Sidney's Sidney. Let me take something right now. Let me take something right now. Let me take something right now. That's the way they do that movie. Yo, that's the way they do that movie. Because they say they say they're going to make that movie. The way they do that movie right now,

I'm telling you guys, they will set the world off. Fire. If they, no, bro, bro. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, the way they do that movie is Michael B. Jordan as Superman, Taylor Swift, as Lois Lane. Fuck out of here, bro. No, the way they do that, the way they do that movie,

musical number right in the minute. Louis Lane is playing on the guitar. Superman picks her up, takes her around country to country as she sings a song. I'm telling you, bro, they will be so fucking mad. You want to talk about Mad Day. They would be so mad, bro. Can we get Jay Z as Lex Luthor? But he's just going out to dinners with people.

You know what I'm saying? Who needs the cash? Let's have dinner real quick. Just as fun. Okay. Like, the name of the movie is Superman, black and white. Michael B. Jordan stars as, as, what is his name? Keenan L.

Jalen L. Keenan. It's Jalen L. Michael B Jordan stars as Jalen L. Taylor Swift is Lois Lane. Where did they meet? Cancun. On spring break, they came back.

I need coach. Black as Jimmy Olson. Oh. Oh. Okay. Oh, my God. Okay. We're out here. Hey, hey, hey, Hey, Superman. Hey, Superman. Oh. Subman. Hey, Sue Mae. Oh, some real shit, bro.

Say, Taye these niggas, snite these niggas, man. Can we get, um, are you going to save the day? I hope so. Can we get E40 as Perry White? E40 is Perry White. E40 is Perry White works. Can we do better as Perry White? I love E40. Can we do better as Perry White? Probably not.

Clark, I need you to get your for shizzle, my nizzle. Get down there, okay. So, wait, wait, wait. So the Daily Planet is now a black newspaper, right? It's a black newspaper. It's the Shade Room, basically. Oh.

I was thinking Jet. I was thinking Jet. That's good. That's good. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. This is so good. It's the Shade Room. So the Daily Planet is the Shade Room.

So you got, so the E40 is Perry White and Lois Lane. comes in because, you know, we got to get some diversity in there. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Okay, so who's Lex Luthor in this? Who's Lekh, y'all going with Hove? I think Hove mastermind. Come on.

Come on. Ove? Hove. Mastomite. Okay, so Hove is the mastermind. What's Lex's Lek's plot in this? Is Lex's plot to stop Colin Kaepernick from ever playing football again? Yo, God.

What? Oh, you know what? You know what it is? He wants to sign all of the, all of the, struggle rappers in Metropolis to a 360 at Rock Nation. Fucking Michael B. Jordan is just like, bro, we need to own our master's. So what I'm talking about? That's what I'm talking about, Charles.

So this is a whole based upon a Twitter argument. I love this. And maybe this, maybe Lewis, right? She is a reporter, but she sings on the side. And he lures her in, because this happened to Taylor Swift, He lures her in by offering her a deal. And what Jalen L has to do is stop her from signing the bad rock nation deal. Cameos from all kinds of people.

Beyonce's in the movie. You know what I mean? Like she played Beyonce's in the movie. She plays Miss Testmacher. Wow. This is, this is good. Okay. Batman makes a camera. Who's Batman?

So we're going with Cindy Sueney as Low Slane, right? I think I like Taylor. I want to. If we go with Taylor, in the subsequent movie, they have a kid. We could have, you know, Superman's kid be Drake's son. Oh, Adonis. Okay. Well, who plays Superman's dad?

I was thinking like push a T. Push a T. Push a T. What are you talking about that? A nigga, like, he's younger than JZ. I don't know how they're doing when you're from, Chomey. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I know you.

I know. Push a T's like. 50 almost. Push the T is certainly younger than Jay-Z. He's 45. Yeah. What y'all? I thought he was open.

I was just saying it's not, it's close. Although, you know what? That kind of doesn't matter, though, because Joril dies and then he comes back. It really doesn't matter, right? Because he's frozen in the time that he passed away. It really doesn't matter. But who won't push a T for that role, though? I don't know.

He might have the gravitas. You're right. You right. I mean, could we have Dennis Graham as Jore? Stop. All right. Drake's bad. Yo.

Does he wear the suit? Michael never sang like Pock. Pock never rap like Mike. You know what's the same? You know what I'm saying? Give him that. We have to go to the brave and the bowl. Okay, I'm sorry.

We have to go to the brave and the ball. What's your great? Hey, hey, hey, hey, give us a great. But our movie fucking works. I don't give a fuck. No, it works. Straight to two me, baby. Let's go.

Straight to TV. Freebie all day. Yeah. Superman gets one special effects scene, and it's him playing dominoes real fast. You know what I mean? Like slapping the bones. Whatever. Okay, go ahead.

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