The Ringer-Verse - Monster Bracket | Mint Edition

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

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Welcome back to Mint Edition, the once in a while podcast about all the latest family that you just can't live without. I'm Steve Alden. I'm Jomey dinner on. Jomi, how are you doing today? I'm doing good. It's a Monday, you know, just starting off the week. Bro, nice and refresh, you know what I'm saying? Shintoian, I also, you know, I saw Kong, Godzilla.

Right. And now I'm just like... So say we all. I'm in a zone right now, bro. I'm in a zone right now. What's your zone? I'm going around the world, and I'm just taking all the nuclear reactor energy from everybody. Just all the radiation.

That's a typical weekend for you anyway. It's a typical weekend for you anyway. You just go to Vegas and take away radiative energy. You know, I'm turning, like, all my blue is going to pink. You know what I'm saying? I'm leveling up. I don't know what that means. Well, because, see, Godzilla, see in the movie, he starts up with the blue radiation.

And as he absorbs more and more radiation, it turns to me. But what does it mean for Jomey Adelon to go from blue to pink? Oh, man, it's different levels, brother. It's like, you know how, like, you go from, like, you start with Charmander. Right. And then you go to the third, the middle one. Uh-huh. And then you go to Charzart.

So, wait, is this basically a you being color-coded locked in? Is that basically it? When I go pink, I'm locked in. Oh, bro. I'm locked in. Okay. So every time you go to a Lakers game, no, no, no, that's worse.

That takes all my energy. Right. Okay, that's depleted. I'm like, yo, Darvin. Play Rui. What's wrong with you, man? You know, like that takes up, that like releases. That's like my atomic breath, essentially.

Right, right, right, right. Yes. Okay. Well, that's wonderful. What else is wonderful is what's coming up on the Ringervverse feed. Tomorrow, the House of R is going to be giving you their spring hype meter this Thursday, the Midnight Boys are back to give you their instant reactions

to the Invincible Season 2 finale and the latest episode of X-Men 97 and on Friday, House of Art celebrates the anniversary of Captain America in the winter soldier. Looking forward to that. But on today's show, we celebrate

Godzilla X-Kong. No, it's like Hunter, Hunter. Okay, all right. So, like, I was confused because it's like they do have the X there and I hear people saying it with the X or not the X. So I'm at the screening. I'm talking to the dude. I'm like, it's Godzilla Kong.

He's like, see, you understand. People keep saying Godzilla X-Kong, that's not, that doesn't make sense. Why would they say that? I can't be blamed for poor marketing. It's not poor marketing. It's like you just don't read the X. Again, Hunter Hunter's the same thing. Yeah, the X is silent.

That's why they put it there. Well, they can't just put Godzilla Kong. They can do slash Kong. But then you would say slash Kong. You would absolutely say slash. No, I wouldn't actually. I would be less likely to say a slash. That's a liar.

We're looking at a liar right there. That's fine. It's just Godzilla Kong. We're celebrating Godzilla Kong, new empire, with our March madness, Charles would say March Midness, bracket of monsters and kaiju. Before we get to the very specific distinction of what delineates a monster and a kaiju, in order for us to do that, we have our very special guest.

Back again. Back into our hearts and in our lives. Jessica Clemmy! RRR. Now what kind of is that? Rar. That was Girlzilla.

All right. She wears a bow and she twirls. Wait, is this the distinction of like Pac-Man and Miss Pac-Man? This Pac-Man has like that Merillum and Roe mole and then a bow? Yes, this Godzilla also has a beauty mark. Right, okay. Right above the left side of it. It's not those AI-generated pictures of Godzilla with a butt.

No. Oh, have you seen that? Yeah. Hey, yo, what side of the internet y'all are? Wait, let me show you the phone. It says, but don'tky Kong. Let me say it. I'm going to send you the photos, but keep talking.

Googly-moogly. No manches. Bad don't get con. That's amazing. Jessica, how are you? How did you enjoy Godzilla X Kong? It's very fun. She's saying the X.

You got to stop saying the X. I say the X a lot of the times, but I do it ironically because it is Godzilla Kong. It's just Godzilla Kong. That's so, all right. I know. I think we're just not used to it in America having the X there and not saying it. But it's just silent. But no, I loved it.

I loved it. I love the new characters that are bringing in. I love the idea of when the Monsterverse brings in new original characters because Toho has so many monsters and kaiju's that it's like, oh, let's create our own and bring in more that are just bad. Not bad, but like, Scar King is definitely drunk. and walking around. And I'm like, this is very fun compared to, like, the crazy intense Toho ones.

And that's my biggest question. So we're all big fans of monster films and monster verse stuff. But, like, it was a weird dawning upon me when the, like, we kind of happened into the quote-unquote monster verse as legendary entertainment would have it, that we have, like, these early, like,

2016 Godzilla movies, a la Aaron Taylor Johnson and Wanda Maximoff. Oh, yeah, brother, sister, wife, and husband. Yes, brother, sister, wife, husband. A lot going on. A lot going on. Like going on.

Brother wife? Wait. Did you imagine if God's attack the Mormons? Okay. When I... See, now, like, what? What kind of... It's okay, he wouldn't.

The buildings aren't tall enough. But anyway... Jesus Christ. Steve. Yo, our flissas in Utah. I'm so sorry for his behavior. If he knew you guys had internet down there, he wouldn't be saying this.

Okay. Well, I... Something that was dawning upon me when Kong Skull Island came out is that they actually allude to him fighting Godzilla and I was like, wait a minute, oh, we're actually starting to, we're MCU-fying this, we're tying things in, and then during the pandemic we get Godzilla versus Kong.

I'm kind of curious, do we feel like this is, like, do we feel like they rushed this a little bit? The franchise? Yeah, with a monster verse. Because I feel like, yes, Godzilla and King Kong, Those are the two most iconic monsters in all of film history. But like, did we need another one? Did we need a Rodan movie?

Did we need a something? Isn't this not a Rodan movie, brother, Rodan not put in the butt in seas? Let's be for real. We had the Godzilla movie from 2014, right? I think this is in the same. Now, why would you show me that? Why would you do that? It's very funny.

It's a good donkey call. No. King Cole with a gigantic gas. Don't give me that look. That's not serious. It was funny. Thank you for. texting to me, by the way. I did need that. So, like, we had the Godzilla movie in 2014,

and then we have the Skoll Island movie that came out with 2017, I think. And so I'm looking at, I'm thinking about it. We've got the two solo movies at that point, man, put them together. Like, we don't need to wait. What's the point of, like, a Rodan movie, brother, you, but let's be, let's be like, 100% honest. You're not going to a theater and went like, yeah, let's go watch a Rodan movie, bro. I don't think we're getting a Rodan movie. Yeah, because nobody would watch that. What I would hate to hear is that whenever, somebody sits down for a Monsterverse film to be, well, do I have to, would I have to have seen the last Godzilla and Donkey Kong films?

That's the hard part is like, it helps because you'll just be so confused. The hard part is like you'll be so confused at what Monarch is, but luckily the Monarch TV show feels like it's of itself, so no one needs to watch it. It also like changes up a lot of the timeline, so it like messes all the movies, so people are like, I'm just not going to address it. Like I think the writers and directors are like, we're not going to address the Monarch TV show on Apple. And that's that's quite a fun question because we're in such a unified time of IP where at the MCU kind of spoil us where everything needed to be connected. So now that we think

that something could be separate, we're like, oh, well, Monarch has nothing to do with this. And Godzilla Kong, New Empire is just a fun time. Well, there's some stuff that's, that's the hard part. The Monsterverse seems like, it's not as like messy, I will say, as like the Witcher. Well, so we can't all be as messy as the Witcher. Yeah, we can be all messy as the Witcher. but there is so much information coming from the comic books that they make canon. And then the TV shows that they also make canon. So then it's like, okay, how much are we going to address? And it depends on really the directors, but the directors and the writers really want to do amages to Toho in their movies.

So it's like they're not really staying canonically attached to a lot of the things. So there's a lot of conflicting situations for the Monsterverse universe. But originally it was also supposed to be merged with Universal. And it was kind of supposed to be in like the Pacific Rim universe. Right. But then they went away. That was the pie in the sky dream. Now we're cooking with fish grease. They were supposed to.

And then I loosely, loosely look into this. It was purchased when they were supposed to go through the deal with Universal, it just dropped. Legendary and it just dropped. It was probably because they were like, oh, if we do merge into the Universal franchise, we would get less King Kong and Godzilla and more of like equal shared with every other Kaiju like Pacific Rim or even quiet place. we'd have to share it with those people. So then we're going to stay on our own turf and keep making Godzilla and Kong movies

where they can be on their own pedestal. And then they were bought out by a Chinese company that was like, oh, we want you to do more. And then the first thing that legendary and the Chinese company did was the Great Wall Star and Mad Damon. And we all remember that? Yeah, we all went to the theaters to watch that, right? I remember when that was highly contested

in the Oscar race that year. What, it made like $3 billion? It did make. a lot overseas. What did the Great Wall do? It didn't make a lot of here. Let's guess. Hold on.

Let's guess. The Great Wall, like, worldwide? Yes. Worldwide? Yeah, international. Worldwide. I'm going to say, ugh. I'm going to say $6.50.

$6.50 mil. Okay, hold on. I think it's high. Domestic was, hold on. No, we're doing worldwide, right? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Fox Office's Moj. Really?

I think it made a Billy? Well, the thing, not Billy. But I think the thing is, like, I don't think it did well here, but I think, I think it did well other places. Yeah, it did well other places. Oh, okay. All right. You might not think that.

Oh, okay. Domestic, budget of 150 million. Domestic 45 million. Oh. International 289. Oh, my God. Okay, never mind. 334 total.

Oh, wow. Not even half of that day. That was the first property when they bought legendary. They were like, let's do this and then let's do more Godzilla and Congress. Right. Because that movie was built for. like an international. You see how they rob us, man.

Imagine Gypsy Danger going bar for bar with Godzilla. You know what I'm saying? Like, what happened to this country, man? What happened to this country? What happened to the games that we took from other countries? What happened to the game I love, man? Could you imagine the Pacific Rim monster going up against Godzilla? Do you know how fun that would have been?

Do you know how short that fight would be? And then out of the quiet place, spiders all come out to you? Like, it would have been so much fun. I wish they would have paired with Universal, but I understand being like, it's too messy. It's too much. It is way too much.

It is a lot. And it would focus so much more on humans, which I do not want. Okay, that was the problem with Godzilla versus Kong. That was the problem with King of the Monsters. Well, I mean, most of these movies, they're like, well, we can't,

they can't just show Kong and Godzilla hanging out for, can you? Not really. I think they tried to do it in this movie, and I was like, I like it, but we are missing the like whatever the grounded world is. A little bit. I think what the movies like really try to do,

and especially in the Godzilla versus Kong, is like they give you like, they give you the kids. They give you the adults. They're like, well, the kids are, oh no, you got to go save the children. It's like, guys, we don't care. We don't care. When I do breakdowns, I'm always like, and Millie Bobby Brown is hiding in a tub.

Now back to the back. That one was really egregious too because, yeah, like, Millie Bolly Brown and her crew are running around. And then what's the dude name? Coach Taylor and his crew. Yeah, yeah. They're running around. And then it's like, and then you have like the Mecca Godzilla folks.

We're doing that thing. I'm like, yo, that's too many sublots. And this one is really just like, it's just the one. It's just the one group of people. Yeah. And we follow them. It doesn't really have. But the only storyline they have is just they retell the history.

Exactly. Which is important. But I'm like, okay, I mean, Rebecca Hall is just like, all right, you do exposition. That's what you do. You're here to expose the audience to stuff they don't know. Cool. Thank you. Here's $13 million.

Have a nice day. You know what I mean? Like, it's cool, but it is. Yeah, Rebecca Hall getting $13 million from that. That's great. Look, man. Hey, shout out to Rebecca Hall, man. Get that money.

You know what I'm saying? Ultimately, I think it doesn't. It serves a movie in a great way because, yeah, I'm not really here for y'all. So the more simple you keep it, That's good for me, you feel me? Let's get to the real action. It was very fun for that reason. And only to address like this smaller elephant in the room of like, okay, well, I'm more of the opinion that we could have our cake and eat it to with two different types of monster movies.

Because we have a shining example of what great drama and great human stories can be in Godzilla minus one. Obviously helmed by Toho itself and a Japanese domestic made property itself. We have the American movies, and these are a lot more pomp and circumstance, CGI action, and way more inflated budget and a lot more seemingly, I guess, fun and lighthearted. Do you think that the Monsterverse as it stands now could stand to be even a bit more grounded? Because when we see a movie like Godzilla minus 1, that's a lot more grounded and realistic than we would have expected from a monster movie. It needs to be way more bombastic. Like it needs to be shameless in how it operates.

Like, again, bring in the Yeagers from Pacific Rim. Bring in the giant monsters. Bring in the Shah al-Lood from Dune. Like, lock me in to just big, big giant CGI-I. Bring the Transformers in. What the Transformers do right now? I'm probably busy. So I'm e-free right now.

Bring, like, I want to see all of that. That's what makes this stuff fun. It's really like throwing your toy box out there. and just letting it run with the imagination. And that's what I equate the Monsterverse franchise to be right now. It's basically playing with our toy boxes. And having fun.

It's fun. It's fun. And I don't detract from that at all. But guys, we got a lot of work to do today. We have got our March Madness Monster Kaiju Bracket to Build. I'll admit now that I've made a complicated game for y'all. Oh, yeah, for real? But I'll attempt to accept. explain it right now. All right. So,

in honor of March Madness? Yeah, man, Sweet 16. The Elite 8 was this weekend, man. It was just great matchups all around. You know, hey, if you want to hear some more about all the basketball stuff that happened this weekend, go listen to OneShunning podcast with a Tate Frazier, right?

Great guy. How would you, now, see, see, now we got to cut it. See, now we got to cut that. Now we got to, no, hold on. Don't cut it. Bleep it. bleep it because, because Jess, I'm trying to understand why you would do that. Why would you go

like you, we were, everybody was on us, we was chilling, we was on a zero and then you went and took the edible with the most THC and took us all the way to 100. Just I don't know sports. Crazy word. I'm sorry for what I said. I apologize on record that

I should not have said that. I'm so sorry. We are going to be building a 16 roster, kaiju draft. And now what does that entail? Well, we are going to be selecting some of our favorite kaiju monsters

from the monsterverse, from across Toho properties, and from across gigantic monsters in general. We have probably Kaiju, because what is a kaiju? Well, we're going to,

let's actually bring it up. Because for the listeners who only exclusively listen to Mint Edition, which we appreciate. We appreciate, thank you for coming out. On the Midnight Boys, we said, we're doing the giant, we're doing the monster draft and Van and Charles had words. So we need to be very specific.

To not, to not cause any confusion here. Yes. Kaiju, the Japanese term commonly known as big beast, strange beast. It's kind of been adopted into this idea that a kaiju is maybe like a hundreds of, if not thousands of feet tall monster that can topple buildings and attack cities. And it's basically been popularized from Godzilla, King Kong. etc. Yes. Big gigantic monsters,

not like, say, Dracula or creature from the Black Lagoon, something like that. So when we say Kaiju, we mean big, gigantic, tall monsters and creatures.

Does that sound all right? I say monster for both. I know, I understand that, but we need to be distinct because if you're throwing a Gremlin in here, he's not really going to be

going to be very distinct. Technically, they're not even called Kaijus in the Monsterverse. True. They're called Titans. Titans. Because Kaiju's were taken

by Pacific Rim. And they're going to name the same thing. Right. And also the Tohole-Bestom-Kajun. We don't own copyrights on any of this stuff. So we're just going to be saying shit. Legendary. I can say whatever I want.

Just talking. Just yapping. Free thinkers. Free speech absolutists right here. All right. When we break down what we're going to do, we are going to be building our own sort of pools that we've all selected from across our knowledge of monsters and gigantic creatures to submit.

to submit to our roster. We are going to be seating that list and then be constructing our own 16-team bracket for you, the audience, to fill out as well as ourselves. We're going to be filling that out after we finish this pod and we're going to be posting that online for you guys.

So what we're going to... See how they just give me work, audience? See how they just give me work? We gave... See how they do it? They just like, yeah, man, we're going to put it on socials. Now I've got to like get in the lab. You know what I'm saying?

Put my hazmat suit on. How dare you cook? How dare I let you cook? Enter the wades of the content lines. How dare I give you a recipe to cook? It's crazy, man. See? I'm just saying.

I want to be like, yo, you know what I'm saying? I want to be getting on podcasts. But like, yo, Steve, drop these flex bombs. You know what I'm saying? Of course. Do this. You know what I mean? I don't do that.

So you just give me work. It's kind of crazy. But, you know, continue. Jobs not finished. That's wild as hell. Jobs not finished. How dare you give him work to do? Thank you. How dare.

How dare I? Thank you, Jess. See, Black Unity, baby. No. So I'm talking about. I said no. No. I'm here for you.

You immediately said no. I said no. I said, get that out of my. This. Joe me. Was that a hard of our Jess? Joe me. No, I did not say anything like that.

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And we love to see your results. Share it with us. We love to hear from you. So what Jess is going to do for us is going to be ranking all 16 of the monsters that she has submitted for us, one seed all the way down to 16. And we're going to listen to her. We're going to talk about it. Talk about her choices.

And then I'll go to mine. Jomey will do his. and then we'll make our cuts and we'll bring it back to our final 16 and then rank them. All right? So Jessica, you're up first. Let's hear your 16.

I'll try going through mine a little quickly because I think we all have a lot of the same ones too anyways. My number one, which I think a lot of my top, I'll say my top seven, top six, can be interchangeable for sure. But depending on who you are, because I put my number one as Mothra and I always... I respect this, by the way.

I very much respect Mothra. Papamothra is my number one. She's tattooed on literally my forum right now. She's beautiful. She's perfect. She's everything to me. She's where I started. My number two is Mecha Godzilla because Mecha Godzilla is one of the coolest iterations of Godzilla. And there's a version of Meca Godzilla that was built around the bones of the original Godzilla. And I think that is insane. To anybody that only knows Mecha Godzilla from the Monsterverse versions a few years back from Godzilla. Still cool. Still cool. But it could be way cooler. I really encourage you to read a Mechagodzilla. I think if there was a way

to make the Mecha Godzilla that year, which way, maybe 2019, uh, for the old time, a great because the visual effects are just so stunning and fun and the old meca Godzilla is just cartoony and silly.

Which I love. Which I love. Which I love. But I'm like, dude, if you imagine those powers, like the jets and punching, I just love,

I love Meca Godzilla. Number three is Godora because there's no way I'm not going to put that alien that literally showed up and turned everything out of control, not on my top three. three, that's like having three Kyjus and one. I love him. Shimu is my number four.

Shimu is our newest addition to the monsterverse. Now, break us a little off for a little bit about Shimu. I think Shimu not only is beautiful, gorgeous, an original character, but the fact that she acts like a dog, A, B, she started the Ice Age, is incredible. And the fact that, like, she's so much bigger than Godzilla,

and that's on all fours. She's a monster to be dealt with if it wasn't the fact that Scar King had control of her through the crystal, which we saw at the end, she lets loose. So the fact that Shimu is technically supposed to be like bigger, stronger than Godzilla, it was really hard for

Godzilla to go up against them. Kong lost his hand to Shimu. Shimu is just Shimu. Should be in the top five. Number five is Godzilla. I love Godzilla. Okay. That's crazy work. Yeah, it's crazy to think of Godzilla at five, but it's just that like Mecha Godzilla, Godora,

and Shimu are just insane. Right. Are insane. And then number six is Kong, because you got to put Kong on there. You literally have an eye-rolling emoji next to-day- because you're so reluctant to put Kong here. You're not messing with Kong. Why are you not messing with Kong? I don't.

This is a battle that the internet will fight, and the Kong fans will attack you if you say anything wrong about Kong. Kong's played out. I like Kong. It's just when you're putting, I love giant monsters. And if you put a normal giant gorilla against a giant lizard with superpowers that acts like a cat,

I'm going to choose the giant alien super, Wait, super... Kong fans were mad that Godzilla beat Kong? Oh my God. You have no idea. It's literally the hydrogen bomb

versus the crying baby meme. What are we talking about? Adam Wingard, Adam Wingard has said, like, I think a couple things that weren't bad at all from what I know. And so many fans attacked him online

that he had to delete, he like got rid of his social media. And a lot of the biggest beef was because they were like, how could Kong lose to Godzilla? Because Kong is tinier. You just... Call it.

Y'all don't watch. That's how I know y'all don't watch film. That's how I know y'all don't be locked in. I'm looking at it. The only thing is like Godzilla would beat the hell out of Kong, right? But Kong has, the only advantage Kong has, he's got a possible thumbs. He can grab stuff. King Kong's been around since 1933.

Godzilla's been around since the 50s. He's had 20 years to study up and actually be better. And guess what? He went. He's been, no. I'm sitting here in the jungle. I'm going to be my girl. I'm here in the jungle.

beating up T-Rexes and just, you know, I didn't know Kong stands were out here like this. They are. And I don't hate, like, I love Kong. It's just like,

if you're going to compare it to like Godzilla, I can't. That's different weight classes. What are we on? Adam Wingerd and the special features for Godzilla

versus Kong was like, I knew since I was a child that Godzilla would beat Kong. So I put it in this movie that he beat Kong. And everyone was like, you're insane for that. No, here's the real thing.

if Godzilla lost, people would lose. I would lose my... I would, like, all three of us would lose our money. I would lose, and that's the thing. I give Kong his due. Kong is more logical and sound with a lot of the way he fights.

Godzilla's just a giant mess and is running at him and using all force. And that's where I'm like, yeah, but that's, I'm like, Godzilla's Godzilla. He works on land and sea. Kong only works good on land. Who would have went in a fight?

LeBron James or Isaiah Thomas? Let's be for real. No, no, no. It's more like LeBron James and that guy who has not gotten over the fact that he was like all varsity in high school. Like that guy. Y'all like, man, he would be LeBron, man. He would. I just know it because, you know, that one time.

Like, let's be for real. A guy that could have gone pro. What are he going to do against Atomic Barber? What kind of going to do? Man, you know what? That's fine. Okay, we'll get it. And that's, the thing is they even gave him a crutch.

They gave him the axe because there's no way. And then they gave him an infinity gauntlet in this one. I was like, there's no way. That's how, and Adam said that in Godzilla versus Kong, he was like, that was the only way that the Kong species could fight Godzilla was using his spikes against him. So that's how they had to fight him. And I was like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I hear that sound.

Yeah, they're tweaking. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, no. I understand. We were going off. Number seven is behemoth. I just think behemoth is a very fun, great character, really stoic.

And I just like that they kind of like wander. I now thinking about it, I should put that much lower because Space Godzilla should absolutely go before behemones. There's a lot of Godzilla on this list. What? A lot of Godzilla on this list. Yeah, that's why I said my top like six can be interchangeable.

These ones, I don't mind where we played that at all. So here's what I'll say. Space Godzilla, one of the funniest designs for Godzilla ever. Okay, I won't say anything that has to be bleeped. Sassy. Like, it's giving Magneto in this season of X-Men 97. So, real, now, now, what would you have said? Can I say it?

No, no, no, no, no, I know exactly what you were going to say. What do you say it. Exactly what you were going to say it. It's cunty. Yeah, you can say that. No, you can't say that. I can't say it, but you can definitely say that. Space Godzilla is helicunty.

Like, I would wear that on a runway for Rupal's DragGra. That's, yes. No, like this is some, this is some Grace Jones, like, big shoulder pads. Oh, my God. Whoa, okay, I'm looking at Space Godzilla right now. Yeah, you got the little things on the shoulders. Elegance. You got the belly, you know?

Now look up this one, because this is Burning Godzilla's my next. Burning Godzilla is literally Molten Rava going. through its body. And the original. This is not shin Godzilla. No. But I, well,

I like Monsterverse burning Godzilla because it was imbued with Mothra's essence. And so every blast it let off was Mothra's spirit. And I think that's very sweet. Which is beautiful. And beautiful.

And it was cool because he's melting the buildings and Lickadora. No pun intended. This is literally fire. He's cool as hell. And the movie, it's really sad because he like explodes and dies and he couldn't

save his son. It's a really sad change. But in the monster verse, it's really cool. Number 10 is the Frost Vark, which appears in the Monarch Legacy, a monster series. People think that was Shimu, but it's just a giant ard vark that's made of ice. It's silly. It's very silly.

And also Matt Fraction, one of my favorite comic book writers that wrote the show, he had his son create that character. His child son, like, come up with that character. Here's the thing. Almost all of these things are stuff kids would make up, so we can't really talk shit. Scylla is my number 11 because Scylla is just a walking Cthuloo. The Meyer squid is number 12 from Skull Island. It's the squid that trapped Kong

and Kong ate it. Number 13 is Rodan. Now I understand that's very low on the list. That's incredibly low, so I might say. But it's also because I'm like, I already have Mothra as number one. And when it comes to flying other than space Godzilla,

I'm like, I don't really care. But Rodan is a gigantic teradactyl. And all of it, but the biggest power that they have is like that gust of wind that can knock down a lot of things and their talons. And I'm like, that's kind of fun. Yeah, but you could also like dive bomb.

I could get that from Mothra. All right. That's why I put Rodan in. And I'm not saying that like he's better than Mothra. I'm not saying that. It sounds like what you're saying. No, it's just perilously low for Rodan.

Don't get me to fight him in the garage after this. Okay, all right. Give it five minutes. But no, but Rodan, I do think Rodan's character in the Monsterverse is so sick coming out of the volcano. And then literally they were like, oh, we're going to, he's based off of a turkey vulture. And I think that's really crazy.

Number 14 is the alpha skull crawler, which is the end of the Skull Island movie, the biggest skull crawler that comes out when Kong is down. Really love the design of skull crawlers. It's gross. It's gross, but like I like it. It has like no legs in the back and like long tail. You've ever seen like a coyote skull like in like Western movies or stuff like that? It looks like it looks like that downward pointed like dog's skull but like a full body attached to it. It's, I like I like it.

neat. Could you have imagined if, but like, it's more just scary. But if, if Guillermo del Toro got a hold of one of these movies, that thing would have been, like, it would have had hands for, like, antlers or fucking eyes again. And it would have been the most scariest thing in the entire universe. You know what, you know what the Skokai remind me of? No funny. Remembering Toy Story with one of the Sid's toys?

It's the duck. Oh, the duck head with the big arms and no lower body. That is very funny. Jomey. This guy who buff arms. Our next kajou is the big baby with spider legs. Yeah, can we choose that one? If that thing was like 80 feet tall, that'd be terrified.

That would be scary. Number 15 is the Skir Buffalo that we saw. It's just the giant buffalo that wades in water in Skoll Island. And number 16 is Doug, which is the chunky little dinosaur. Talk to us about Doug. Who is Doug? He's not like an animated show from the 90s. No, he's not.

He's an animated dinosaur from today. But no, Doug is just a chunky little. little dinosaur that shows in Godzilla versus Kong and Hollow Earth originally and he's just a chunky man and he just looks like a little chunky dinosaur. It's just like he's got like a lot of like it looks

like crocodile legs coming out of his mouth but it's just his mouth. He's so funny. But he's named Doug. His name is Doug. Well and it's funny because the Monster vs fans like even with Godora, the third head of Godora, the original heads on Godora, it's itchy Nissan. They named it Kevin because he's just a stupid idiot. And I love him. But I love him.

And that's what they did with Doug. They were like, that's Doug. And Adam Wingard was like, if I see Doug again, or if I do a movie again, I'm going to put Doug in it. And Doug is in this movie, the newest one. And I just love him. Doug. Doug. How your class is going, Doug?

Stop. He's just a little chunky man. Wait, are you doing the iced tea from ice tea? Ice cube. Ice Cube. Ice Cube. Ice Cube. It's Ice Cube. I got it wrong. I don't know.

Don't bleep him. Don't bleep him. Don't bleep that. You have to bleep that. I don't know. I was watching SVU the other day. No, you were not.

That's not true. I love a lot of our SVU. That sounds weird to say. Steve, man, long day at the office. You put in, you know, you're putting in your eight hours.

You hit the gym. You know, take a shower. Or do you some of the door dash. And what's wrong? Watching an SVU or two. And you're trying on TV and you want that's for you.

That's, I don't believe you. Sometimes it's doing reruns. Yeah. You don't have cable. Never mind. That's, you have a point.

That means you're going straight to Netflix. So I can't watch SVU by choice? That's what I can't. I don't know, Steve. And Jomey's making a great argument. So you deliberately go. All right, man.

Let's turn on. Let's fire up Peacock. And then we should. That's how I know you lie. Nobody got peacock. I got peacock. I watch traitors. For what?

For what? For traders? Yeah, I watch traders. I'm believing Jomey more and more. Okay. Okay. I guess I'm just lying today. All right.

Let me see your phone. All right. Let me see your phone. I know you're not on SVU Reddit. I know you're not on the SVU Reddit. All right. All right, let's go through my picks. I'm going to have a boring top seating here.

So we got one Godzilla, two, Kong, paying a little bit more respect that I probably should. King Godora at three, Mechondogadilla at four, Mothra at five. I should have put Mothra higher. I think our fives and sixes are, like, we're good. That's fair. I got Rodan here. I just, I love dinosaurs and love a big terror. I get it.

Space Godzilla, 100. Alpha skull crawler. Absolutely. Meccani Kong. I need you to Google Mac Kong right now. You're talking about Transformers? No, not Transformers. Not Optimus Primal.

You're talking about Optimus Primal right now? Outters Primal. Which one's cooler? Which one's cooler? Optimus Primal or this Kong? I mean, obviously Optimus Primal is cooler. Now, why would you even put them that high on this list? Because, all right.

All right. Could we have put? No, Transformers aren't big enough. They're not big enough. Yeah, they're just deeming them not big enough. Damn, I would have put Optimus Primal all the way. I mean, if we're doing like, you know, giant robots, it's different. Yeah.

You're right. You're right. You're right. Exactly. All right. Jet Jaguar. I know that this is not technically a monster because this is a robot man. So then why did you put it here?

Because he is in Godzilla films and he has fought Godzilla. And I just love the origination of Jet Jaguar because it was basically a fan submission that somebody designed this by mail and the filmmakers liked it so much that they put it in a film and made it its own thing. It's stupid and I love him. This is how, you know, I'm cooked. You said, I'm looking at Jet Jaguar. And what you imagine?

No, this is even worse. My first thought is like, oh, that's the shoe in the episode of Psych where they have to go. Like, it's like literally a part of the plot. Yes, yes. Where the episode is called Earthwind and Wait for it. Where like one of the guy dies with shoes on and like, those are Jet Jaguar. wires. They're only manufactured in one year because the shoes are bad. Anyway, that's how my brain works.

I was waiting. Syke rewatch pod, you and me, Jemmy. I was waiting for the joke. There's no joke. No, not the joke. No, I was waiting for you to finish the title because you said, wait for it, and then I just waited for it. It's because it's about fire, an arson joke is awake. I don't watch Syke. I'm lame as hell.

Hey, go get Peacock. Hey, go get Steve's Peacock. For traders, for traders. Go get Steve's Peacock. Oh, all of a sudden, we like peacock now. You know what? I do like Traders. Let me get... Traders is great. It's actually on Peacock A and Amazon Prime. Don't ask me how I know that.

All right. You might have watched it on both platforms? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. A lot of free time in the last couple years. All right. Eleven, I'm thrown in Knife Head from Pacific Rim. I just like Knife because he's a big shark with a big knife on his head. Yeah, no, that's a great one. Yeah. I love it.

Destroyer. I should have put Destroyer on my list. And now seeing yours, I'm like, yeah, I messed up. Yeah. Destroy is perfect. Destroy is great. It's basically, think of Space Godzilla plus Godora and that's basically it and then we've got at 13

the giant boa from the 1975 King Kong remake I just I have a weird thing with snakes I kind of love snakes it's like my favorite thing in the zoo because I think their little faces

are so cute and when I see the giant boba in King Kong's 1975 it's a dumb fight and it's so silly but I'm like it's a good snake. I think snakes behind glass are cute. Like when I go to the zoo, I'm always like, you've never held a snake? Brother.

Never in my life. Show of hands. Who has had or has like only me? No. My best friend growing up had one and I tried so, I was like, I'm terrified of snakes. And I was like, I need to get over my fear of snakes. They're just giant worms. And I would always hold him out like this. And I'd be, don't look at me. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. It was really hard to hold that. Snakes are cute. Again, behind the glass. Yeah, I agree with Joe. look at the little guy. They just want heat because they're cold-blooded. I can't hold one.

I'm scared. I'm scary. They just move too quickly. I can't do it. And now we're getting to the bottom of the list. We got Warbat at 14. This is from Godzilla versus Kong. I think it was a decent design.

I thought it was fun. If they were bigger, I would have probably put them higher. I like that they are half of what Destroya is, and it's like a giant snake with bat wings. Yeah. It's a sick design. I should have put that. should have put that one on mine.

You got like an actual, your bottom five are like actual bottom five. Wait, I didn't mean it in a bad way. You're a mix of cheeks. No, no, no, no. You're mixed in cheeks. And I love cheeks, so I meant this in a nice way.

No. Kerm is, is distraught. Kerm has given me this face too much to dick. What do you mean by that? Pause. Maybe. You're like, y'all ain't go, these are good vibes.

Acting like she wasn't the person that could. sent us Bdonkey Kong. Donkey Kong is crazy. And then for shits and giggles at number 15, Godzilla from 1998. But that Godzilla stinks, man. Yeah. It's not great.

I mean, like, I think, well, I mean, it was literally to capitalize on, like, the Jurassic Park phenomenon at the time. And so they're like, let's make it look like a dinosaur. It's like, nah, that's not scary, bro. And it's like, like, you know, like it breathes fire. It's not really like atomic breath like that. It's kind of like, bro.

I think when I was young and I was watching this, I thought it was a Jurassic Park movie. I was like, oh, the T-Rex got out. I have a very important question for all of you. Are you aware that the singer, Cisco, has defeated Godzilla before? I'm not. What do you mean by that? In the year 2000, there was an unreleased music video called Unleashed the Dragon,

for his song Unleashed the Dragon. I love Unleashed the Dragon. Was it for the Godzilla movie? No, it was not. Okay. Because you might remember, hold for applause, did a song on the Godzilla soundtrack. Oh my god, what are we doing today?

I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Oh my God. You said, and then you said, hold for applause. You said, what was that? What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? Pack this, nigga up.

What the fuck are we on? I'm begging and pleading you. Keep that in the podcast. You said hold for applause. Leave my head. But keep that in the podcast. That was incredible. craziest thing I've ever heard

in my entire life. What are you on, bro? You said a whole for all my bro. Oh my God. Yo, you said that.

The Holfermars is crazy. Being a curf, like, I can't believe what we just heard. I'm respectfully, Steve, I'm very

speechless. I, Ooh. Kerm literally looked away and said, what are we doing today? He said, what the fuck are we doing today? I get it, bro. You read the news. I read the news.

I'm not going on what's going on. But, like, Kerm. Kerm. Kerm. Kerm. Kerm. Kerm. Oh, my God.

I got to take my medication. Oh, my God. I'm going to take it right now. I swear you saying about Godzilla and Cisco. Run it back now real quick. Run it back real quick. So you were saying something about Cisco? I wanted to be known that I'm literally opening my zip lock up and taking my an antidepressant.

Because of what you said. Because of what you said. You reminded me today I need to do this. All right. No, in 2000, Cisco comes out with a music video called Unleash the Dragon. And it depicts him like singing from a balcony with a bunch of fans adoring him. And Godzilla attacks the... city. Now this is like a visually

and commercially distinct monster that is not, but it is very Godzilla coded and it looks exactly like 1999's Godzilla. And if you'll see right here, if you didn't see this. So, and the very

important thing about this is that this clearly came out and Cisco has seen the Matrix and is like, hey, I want to put Matrix style moves when I fight Godzilla. So what happens is Godzilla knocks him off of a balcony as you fall out here. Wow.

He's singing to Godzilla. He's like, no. He's not feeling it. He thrashes on the balcony. Oh, okay, Cisco. He never has a sure of art. People are going to love listening to us watch a video. All right.

Well, hold on. A lot going on. Yeah, a lot going on. Oh, no. Jomi, can we issue this? Wait. Wait for it. Wait for it.

Social execution right here. Wait. Oh. No, do you know what this is? This is Power Rangers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did the same stuff in Power Rangers. No, wait.

Now wait until he runs into the alley. You had to hop over a fire hose? Had to hop over one fire hose. This music video is seven minutes long, by the way. We're not going to do the whole thing. I sure hope not. If I was a musician, I'd make music videos like this all the time. Wow.

He died right there. I don't think he did. They killed Cisco. Rest in peace, man. He had great stuff. Oh, he's still a lot. Yeah. And then he has a dance off with Godzilla.

His jacket changed to red because he got fire on him. Burning Cisco. Yeah, burning Cisco. It's like burning Godzilla. Jesus Christ. Yep. Wow. That was the greatest music video I've ever seen.

We should have been on the Liz, dude. I mean, I pray that his dance move for not lost a time. Cisco would have to fight Godzilla. Cisco's number one. Clearly, he beat Godzilla in a hand-to-hand combat. That's what the Kong can do. You know what I'm saying? Kong can't ever do that.

Right. All right, so we got our list. All right, it's my turn. I mean, I could really just go through my top five because we're pretty much the same. I've got Godzilla, Mecca Godzilla, Godora, Mothra, Kong. Talked about those. I got Clover at 6 from the Cloverfield movies.

Is his name Clover? When I searched the Google, that's what they called. All right. The Cloverfield Monster. I was like... I wish I could have recorded Jobius' face. Well, I looked at this. it up and that's what it said.

That's what they said. All right. God. I'm not going to argue with the Wikipedia people. Did we ever see the Cloverfield monster? Like once in full like at the end of the movie. This is the like the shaky camera movie, not 10 Cloverfield Lane. I mean, it's not the same monster.

It's the same monster. I didn't know if you saw it in 10 Cloverfield Lane. Okay. Yeah, but I think my list is more like I just like we won the, the prompt is giant monsters and movies or whatever. I just went to like, what are the some big monsters and movies? I don't really like go, you know, Toto. Toto. Toto, the dog from Wizard of Oz?

Hey, that's a kajou in his own right. But I appreciate that you went. I didn't go to Toto, yeah. I appreciate that you went different because it's also like there's more than what we, when I was thinking of kaijuries, I was like, I just know too many Godzilla ones. But there are more. I just didn't, I didn't think about it like this. Yeah, so I went clover at six, smog at seven.

I think, I was like, we need a, we need a dragon. List needs a dragon. You might need to say you need a. Unleashed the dragon. Unleaks the dragon. As Fesco would say. Christ alive. Shihalute at 8.

Look. And you know what? I technically, I would allow this. I would call this a kaiju because he has like on the assault on, you know, the emperors. I'm sure to harkin to people are like, hey, yo. Whoa. What? That's this biggest.

Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Might make it in the top 10. When you're right, you're right. Might make it in the top 10. You already know, man. I'm telling you right now.

You already know I'm about to say. Close to five. Three. Nine. Misadakai. He said, anything he said. He said, he said, El-a-a-a-eep.

It's the last one that he does. I'm gonna, bro, that's so, like he cannot get the words out of his mouth fast. No, it's like he sneezes it. He's like, slag-le-le-le-le-he-on-a-eep. It's like his brain short circuits. You guys are holding on to that quote and not the, abomination.

Silence. Silence. Abomination. consider what you're about to do, Paula, try your face. The last 30 minutes are great, but it's bad, funny, undentouched comedy is great in that part.

Nine, I went with another Pacific Rim Kaiju. You went with the category three. I went with the category four. Leather back. It's the last one they find in the movie. I was just like, that spot. For me, I'm thinking, like, of all the Kaiju in that movie, I was like,

you got to have a Kaiju from the Pacific Rim in here. I kind of feel like that's the one that would be most recognizable. for folks. Because again, I don't even know they had names. I know they have names

in the movie. They say them like once and then never again, but. I was like, which is the one they fight at the end? That's the one

I remember. Leather back. All right. Cool, cool, go, cool, go, cool, go, cool. 10,

the Crackin. Yeah. I kind of feel like the Crackin. Now, is this the one when Liam Nishon says release the Crackin. Liam Nishon?

Liam Nishian. Liam Nishian, Ryan to Nissan. Running on, driving on the Nissan. Nissan. Nissan. Nissan.

It's great. Sure. Why not? Is that the one? I'm not going to lie. The Cracken was the last one I put on the list. I was like, there had to be moving. Yet it's still at 10.

Well, because when you list like, all right, I got Shuma at 11, which might be crazy now that, like, I think about it. But, you know, I'm not familiar with Shimu's game, you know, so, you know, just don't be, too mad at me. The Mega 12th. Now I'm mad. Star Horse Pick for the Me. To Meg at 12.

They got two Meg movies. They do. I was riding with you at first. I was like, yeah, I'm glad that he went out of the realm. Then he said, the Meg. The Meg. The Meg. The two Meg movies.

The T-Rex from Jurassic Park. Absolutely. Okay. Now, if you were going to say the T-Rex from King Kong, Peter Jackson, that's definitely not going. No, that's not. Are we allowed? Well, I guess it is, like, created. Because it's a normal dinosaur, I didn't want to put normal dinosaurs on the kite.

Because that's an actual thing. I'm thinking some sort of like genetic perversion of life. What is genetically created? Yes, with cuttlefish and lizard DNA. So normal real things though, not like. But I mean, it's not like radiation or like a meteor or something. You know, we want the cool shit. T-Rex is a, that's how I know y'all not locked in.

If we saw dinosaurs today, we'd be like, man, that's really cool. You know what I'm saying? They went extinct 65 million years ago. Yeah, but they're only. the folks at Jurassic the rest of the world but it's only two stories tall It's what I'm saying

Look at y'all man No imagination Hey and I'm just saying In the pool Might not make it But I get it Probably not right I mean I just again

I went giant monsters In movies Rodon Obviously just a bigger Damn low Yeah it's a big Teradectal You know what I'm saying

Like all right cool You got a big week span But what can you shoot I'm saying Can you defend Can you defend? What's your range From the outside

Exactly bro you know what I'm saying We need We need three and deep folks Out here What you go trying to do? His wingspan is massive. It's like, it's something huge.

I mean, it's obviously ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 15, the steak puff marshmallow man. That? This is actually something that I'm interested in. Giant, giant monster. It's like the ghost bus. Yeah, 100%.

Everybody's eating fluffernutters for like three weeks. Because I don't look at that face, Karm. It's a sandwich with peanut butter and marshmallow filling. What else? What do you need to get off your chest? I was just Googling Why are you so defensive about it?

I hadn't seen... I saw you, no, he made a face. He may want to know, hey, yo, bro, hey, what you're talking about, man? I've seen it. I've seen it. I never,

I don't like peanut butter, so I never ate one. Do you don't like peanut butter? Only in Reese's. You don't like peanut butter? In Reese's. I won't eat a peanut butter sandwich. I think it's too dry for the most part.

No, peanut butter and jelly? No. No, I love peanut butter and jelly? But of Reese's? I don't. He freezes? Are you freeze it? Freeze it?

I mean, yeah, yeah, you freeze it. You freeze it. You freeze it. Hey, I got soft teeth and my teeth are bad. So I might crack it on a frozen Reese. That's tough. Right. I mean, Reese's are like, I mean, I don't think we talk about on this podcast, but for me,

Resees are the number one draft pick of Halloween candy. 100%. It's universal. It feels universal. Now, what, how do you feel? How do you feel about the season? I don't get mad about it. Like the eggs and the trees.

I don't want to get into it. No. I eat them. No, it's wrong. It's wrong. I don't really, I'll eat them. Like, again, I love Reese's. It's not really a problem.

But I do think there's a little bit more, more peanut butter, no. There is. Now that's what I'm talking about. And that's what I like. The reason the Reese's are perfect is because of ratios. No. It's perfect ratio between chocolate to peanut butter in that cup.

No. Yeah. Eggs, trees. No. It's perfect. It's perfect. It's perfect. It's perfect.

It's perfect. It's too dry. It's too dry. It's too dry. It's too dry. Y'all are too dry. Yawning opening your minds. Open your third fucking eyes.

Last picture, me. My last one is, and I need to be very specific, it's the 50-foot woman, but it's Gynormica from Monsters v. Aliens. Why? Because it's... Why? Because that movie is so...

I saw that movie in theaters. Doug! I can't even Google Gynormica right now, because what is the first set of images that's... Oh, wait, is it home? Horny? Yeah. Jummi, that's why you chose it. Oh, I didn't know it was horny.

Of course. Of course you did. I swear to God. I swear to God. Sure. Sure. Sure. What's all this?

See, not, see, see, y'all are letting, y'all and perversion into your minds. I'm not going to, you know what? I'm not going to do this on the work Wi-Fi. Okay. But maybe if you were to Google, I'm not going to do that. On the front page of Google, it might say something. You know what? Or I won't.

Actually. I did not know it was like that. I promised you, I did not know it was like that. My thing is I saw this movie. came on 2009 and it's got steaming yeah this woman's butt is completely

in the air what are you talking about she's walking like a dog it's literally the third image ah see now yeah definitely yeah

joey joey we know what you're doing we know what you are we know exactly what you are a fucking deviant you have never been the allegations dog how do we have a monster draft

and you found a white woman to fit into little motherfucking rankings. Stop him. How did this happen? Stop him. This is getting out of hand. Self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.

You like the bit. You were in on this bit with all the Reddit motherfuckers. Here's what I'll tell you. This one complete accident. I was just like, I need a lot. Like I need a like a six. No, hold on, hold on. Need a 16.

What's the home girl from? She 50 foot tall. Boop put her on there. Did not know it was horny. You could have been the 50s, but I will have been the 50s. I will. I didn't watch that. I don't know what that is.

I understand. The thing is. leave Jomey is just embedded in his deviant blood and he didn't know that he naturally did this. Here's what I will say though. Got him the queen? Nah, you got me. All those jokes, I gotta eat it because that's what it is.

You gotta eat it? We all fell for the go. See, man. Yo! He said that earlier. He said it first and y'all always come from me when he's the TV. I'm not the TV. That's what I mean it's like a charge, right? You got to take it.

You know what I'm saying? Ah, you got to tell me, you're really not helping yourself to Y'all never heard Eat the Charge? You never heard that? Yeah, yeah, we heard that. So then, like, let's get Gynormica off my screen right now. Okay. See, again, I did not know who was like that.

I promise y'all. I did not know that people were out there like that for a ginorma. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. All right. I was just like, I'm like, who was, because I, and then the movie was on on Netflix, like what? Like, it was going to leave it off Netflix, I want to say, like last year or two years ago.

I was watching it. I was like, this movie is funny, man. This, these, like, okay. And then you paused it. Zoom in. What you don't see, Steve is out there pantomiming, digging a hole as in like I'm digging myself

a deeper hole. Look, at the day, I thought the shit was funny. I was not locked in on the nasty side of it all. So that's all me. That's my bad. Again, I will have to take this one

on the chin. You, man. That's wild, dude. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Jesus Christ, you know what? I'm real sorry, man.

I'm sorry. I ain't ever coming back. I ain't never coming back. I thought the ring here was a professional establishment. These Spotify studios, like I thought real podcasters came in his building. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Chris and Andy are going to be in here later today.

Y'all two have been saying some out-of-pocket shit today. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Which is insane. I show up as a guest and y'all say the craziest things today. Oh, hold on your little point of fingers. Easy but donkey Kong, right? Wait a minute. That was funny.

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All right, let's build this pool. All right, Karm, if you wouldn't mind helping us out. I think that the things that we can put on this pool starting from the top one, let's just get the pool set and then we'll set the order later. I think it's easier to go from the bottom. The only reason is that we know clearly who's bottom. Top five we're going to probably start being like,

well, no, this one should go here. This one should go here. All right, fine. Let's get rid of some for right now. I can easily get rid of my Godzilla-99 pick. I can get rid of Warbat. I can get rid of giant boa. I think we should keep,

I think we should keep Marshmallow Man, the Meg, and T-Rex at the bottom. How do you feel about that, Jess? I don't think T-Rex should be on it at all. You don't think if you're actually

on it at all. Because but only because I'm like it's a dinosaur that is real and dinosaurs did exist we're choosing

things that are mythical I don't think that he's technically breaking the rules here because this was an engineered thing 100%. I just think that

he would not fare well in this pool. And yeah and that's just it because I think there's more I think the Meg makes sense and so does the stay puff

I love I love the idea of the stay puff be number 15 or 16 yeah that is because it's true that is a kaiju and he love for

a jaguar in here Get that, get Jack out of here. Get that out of it. I'm not going to lie. I looked up, McKanny Kong. He looked like, he looked like, uh, like the tin man from Wizard of Oz on a bulking session. I like him, though. I like it, though.

Yeah, no. Well, should it number 15 be, um, the Meg? Oh, that's a, that's a, that's a, I like, I like, I like that's low from the Meg, though. It is kind of low from, the Meg's there, though. The Meg's there, though. The Meg should be there, but I feel like that's low. Let's give number 15 to, like, a gentle giant. One that doesn't do a lot of shit, but is still really cool.

It's T-Rex. Um, no. The T-Rex isn't coming here. I'm thinking of Warbat or Skir Buffalo or the Alpha Skullcrawler, because that one's kind of weak. Ooh. I think of anything going from the Skull Island gang is probably Alpha Skullcrawler. Alpha Skullcrawler at 16? We could just put Skrullcrawler at 15.

We don't need to call it alpha. So are we putting State Puff, marshmallow and man at 16? Yeah, 16. 16. All right, cool. And then we put the Meg at 15. We can move the Meg up if we want to. Which, by the way, we'll read all these out once we've locked all these in.

Yeah. The scroll crawler. The school crawler. Dude, knife head needs to be higher. Or any of the ones... Pacific... Listen, I'd be happy if he's just there.

Pacific Rim monsters, I think, need to be middle. Like six or seven. Six or seven. Those are Kaijus. Are we doing the seeds right now? Are we doing the seats right now? So then we don't need to argue about seating. All right.

So Knife head and leather back are still here, are here in the pool. Okay, so, but here's the thing, right? I will concede leather. back. Okay. I need Shilud in there.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're going. I'm putting Shilu close to five. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. I was like, I want to put Shilu in there. Let's get Shilu in there. That thing is amazing.

We got to get smog out of here. Probably. But look, look, I'll give up smog. I feel like the T-Rex, man. The T-Rex is, I want to say like, it's not like the quintessential movie monster. But I think in the lost world, it's basically died Godzilla, right? Godzilla is running around San Diego.

I really think at 16? Here's my question. Does that T-Rex have a shot against anybody in this pool? Of course not, but that's why the 16-T is. That's what a 16-C is. But it's like, we already have so many Godzilla's. I'm trying to, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean?

I would be willing to put it at 16. Let's put it in Let's put it lower Let's put it lower Let's put it lower Let's put it Let's be specific that it's the lost world All right

We're creeping up on the tens here So we should probably start To get a little serious Okay Are we getting Jack Jaguar out of here Are we sure Jack Guar's out of here I think we should put

If there is I think we're gonna end up putting At least two Godzilla And by two Godzilla I mean the normal Godzilla And probably Mecha Godzilla Wait a minute What about space Godzilla

That's what I was gonna say It's 10 That's what I was thinking It would be 10 Space Godzilla. I think Space Godzilla's our last fun pick. I don't know. But I'm fine with not. It depends on what you guys

are. It's a lot of Godzilla's on this. That's why I was like, I get it, but I'm like, Space Godzilla or Burning Godzilla are too very, it's not our fault that there's so many. Burry Godzilla just looks really cool. I think of the cool alternate Godzilla's it's Space Godzilla. Same. I would choose Space Godzilla. Oh, wait, we haven't put Rodan on here. That's what I'm saying. That's why I don't think there's enough

for Godzilla's. Okay. Well, because Rohan and Shimu deserve to. I think Shimu should go on the list, but I think we're getting short now, right? Yeah. Yeah, we're getting a little short. Because we have our top six or top five. Okay.

One, two, and three just already put in, just so we know we're Kong Godzilla. Yeah, yeah. One, two, three, Kong Godzilla. Godora and Mothra. Gador and Mothra. We all, I mean, we all have Rodon on there, so Rodon should go. I think we, there's two, I think the thing. The thing with the Mecca Godzilla and Godzilla, those are like the two most iconic Godzilla characters.

Like Space Godzilla looks cool. So does Burning Godzilla, honestly? I think Mecca Godzilla should go now. Should at least go on there. And we'll get rid of burning. For sure, should go on there. We'll get rid of burning in space if we have to. Yeah, all right.

I'm down with that. I don't mind because I agree. Mecca needs to be there. Yeah. Mecca has to be there. And Rodan's there. Could we put nine, or just, I'm just saying not the official siege just in the pool. Can we put nine a Shimu?

Shimu? Like, replayed space, Godzilla with Shimu. I do also think, like, I know we don't see much of Clover, but I do think Clover should be there just on legacy. Look, man, like that movie was special, bro. We didn't, like, we really didn't know what it was watching the time. It was, and it wrought upon the world for a whole universe that was not capitalized on except one time. Are we basing this on, I don't even know. I was about to say, I don't even know what I'm about saying?

Like power scaling or are we exactly about it? Power scaling or on because he just went against a bunch of humans. He didn't go against another creature. And then we never saw them, A, or B. Yeah. And then it wasn't as, it's big for me, but it's not as big as the Godzilla franchise or the quiet place. Do you guys ever see, I think it's called Colossal with Anne Halfaway? Oh, yeah, the Colossil monster.

I do like that movie. I don't know why I don't like that movie. You don't like it. Well, I don't like it for the reason what the movie is. I hate watching Jason Sedakas be abusive too. And that's the only... And I was like, and I know that's the movie. And that's why I'm like,

it just makes me eat. But you don't think it's a bad movie. It's just a very uncomfortable and not great experience. I only saw it that one time, to be fair. That monster was also okay. I don't think it was all that. It moved like one of the monsters on our list already. So that's why I'm like, eh.

And then it's also controlled by a human, which is already Mecca Godzilla. So... That's fair. Let's think about it. All right. Are we missing anything? I just want to put Shimi on the list. That's the only one I'm arguing for at this point

Because I really think The fact that this is a kaiju That started the Ice Age And is actually stronger than Godzilla Is pretty insane I'll give that to you The other one, the other spot If we want to take burning Godzilla

Off the Pool 2 for someone else Because Burning Godzilla and Space Godzilla are still on this list They can go Right That's what I'm saying like if we need to Like put clover on that joint And then Shoot

Are we keeping both leatherhead and leather head and knife Oh we put both on me Yeah that's true Leather back and knife head Sure they've got names Leatherback

Yeah Okay I'm fine with that Okay I don't mind All right we need two more The T-Rex You gotta buy it to T-Rex now

The T-Rex T-Rex T-Rex is 16 Oh well it doesn't matter It doesn't matter Yeah it's T-Rex And then make sure it says

Lost World I mean, listen, the ranks can change. Yeah, 100%. Space Godzilla in here? No. There's too many Godzilla. I'm always for Space Godzilla. But I also...

If I had to choose being Space Godzilla or Clover, I'm choosing Space Godzilla. There is no way I will choose Clover over Space Godzilla. I mean, is that the one thing that we think needs to be here? I don't think it needs to be here. I think we've already got two Godzilla's. I think... And the words of Kaiju's, it's like, space Godzilla is the one everyone's been asking for. And we want.

But I also understand that we have too many Godzilla. Final case for Jomey's 50-foot-tall horny lady. I'm not saying, what's wrong with Genormica? I'm not doing that. Look, listen, go back and watch the book. I'm sure the movie on Peacock right now. It's probably one of those things. Go back and watch it.

Stephen Colbert. Look at Kerm. Kerm can't believe what's going on today, man. He can't believe it. He's looking at it. He's looking at all ashamed of our behavior. Again, I did not know it was horny. It's on me.

I got to do better. I got to be better. So she's not there. Go back and watch the movie. It's dumb. And I thought it was fun. I'm not trying to be that person. I'm looking at our list.

I think it does have to be Space Godzilla. There is nothing that is like... I'm fine with that. We're not putting Jet Jaguar on here. No. And then... It's fine. We already have this skull crawler.

I don't mind Giant Bo, but that's just a giant snake. The war bats are okay, but not as good as the rest of the characters that we put from Jomey's, like the Stay Puff and the T-Rex. And then Rodin's already on here. The Meg is already on here. We have one from Pacific, Pacific Rim. So the last thing left is Clover versus Space Godzilla. I think my list, because we don't have Burning Space, Behemoth, Scylla, Myers Squid, Skir Buffalo, or Doug.

So that's why I'm like, I think we have to go space Godzilla. I mean. You don't sound too comfortable. I mean, a lot of Godzilla's like where, you know what I mean? That's fair. We could put Silas. Silas starts this movie. Yeah.

The newest movie. She's like the Cthulu that shows up in Rome. Oh, what the heck? That Godzilla? Yeah, beat the shit out of. And what's, uh, automographs right in the mouth, right in the face? Oh, yeah. Man.

Yeah. It's kind of a punk asylum, but, but it's still fun. Okay. There's also the, oh, we didn't add it to our list at all. The Moutoos from the first Godzilla movie, the 2014 one. Yeah, no. Yeah, they kind of lame. It's fine.

I'm good with... Space Godzilla or... We still have to come up with two more? Or one more? I'm seeing two more. Oh, put Space Godzilla and Clover. Oh, there we go. Oh, my God. I thought we had to choose between the two.

Oh, there we go. I'm sorry, my bad. All right. Look at God. All right, so let's get this... Look at how we saw that guy. We just counted. Look at us, Steve.

Look at us. Look at us. Goose. We can count. Numbers. All right. All right, let's get these seeds done. Number one, Godzilla. Let's go. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Number two, Kong. Hell. How about no? Hell. How about no?

How about no? I was joking. I was joking. All right. I'd say, I say we play. The Kong fans are coming for you to. How do we feel about Mothra 2? Look.

I would feel about Mothra 2. I would not be mad. I would have to understand. You saw her in this movie. You saw her in this movie. I would have to understand Mothrette 2. So here's my thing. Jess, how much did, how much did you freak out

when you saw Bothra in the trailer. Oh, you did? Yeah, she's in the eye reflection of Gia at one point. And so I knew she was coming back. And I was like, yes, good. And then, because I was so mad they killed her in the worst way. But, like, I remember King of the Monsters when she dies, she's doing it to sacrifice herself for Godzilla. And I'm like, this is my queen.

I'm like, God damn. And I love her. So I'm very happy she came back. She's a mediator in this movie. She's like, stops the fighting. She did. She stops it between God. And I'm like, go off, girl.

We needed you. Keep the peace. We needed you. We needed her. Also, fun fact, Toho will not let the monster verse let Mothra kill anyone. So Mothra in the monster verse will never ever kill someone. She'll throw them against a wall, but they never die. They're just like hurt because Toho's like, she can't kill anyone. Love that. And I'm like, I love that.

Love that. Passivist queen. All right, Mothra number two. Gadora three. Godora absolutely three. Mecca Godzilla at four. You put it con. Out of the top five.

Out of the top five. You are, I mean. We're at five now. Kong not even one of the top four monsters is enough. It's not, it's not ridiculous to say that. I really want to make sure he's not at five. Okay.

You put Shih Tisholute is five? You put Shimu at four. Oh, I want to put Shih Tzu, sorry. Shai Lood at five? No, because I don't think it's bigger than Shimu. Yeah, you got to put Shimu. I think you got to put Shimu. Shih Tzu started the Ice Age.

Yeah. I'll put Shimu. And then I would, ooh, but then you put Rodon ahead of calm. I put Rodon, I put Rodon below con. Okay. But I would put the worm ahead of calm. You put Shyalood ahead of calm? Dude, that thing is sick as hell.

And do you think it could beat? You think it could be caught? I don't know. Because he's in the sand. He's in the sand. Think of tremors. Think about shy hollood. It's not the one that Paul rides in two.

Shihalud is the one that Paul meets in one where it's like standing over him. And it's the shot where he's like, real tiny. It's at night. I don't like the words that you're saying. That's actually scared of the hell out of me. What you do said. Oh no. I'm not a fan. Yeah, but you, but you know what you know what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. It's the one that he meets at night and it's like bearing over him. Oh yeah. Ooh. Because I can see Kong like looking for him in the sand and he just keeps coming up at his legs and taking him down. Because Paul wrote a grandfather worm in time. King, 2005. He has to remember the worms that

ate all the people in the middle of the ground. Kong was afraid of those. I think this might be some Kong disrespect. This is a little bit. Are we getting a little out of pocket? We're getting a little out of pocket for Kong. Okay, out of respect. Let's click Kong. Let's show some respect. I mean, he's like part of the reason while we're here.

Oh, you make, I think you bring this out of it. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I need to take a look at a look at a bracket right now because if, because this is at six and seven, if Shyolid and Kong are round one. Well, no, they won't because it's eight, nine, seven, ten. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Because this comes into play here.

Yeah. All right. All right, so Kong is at seven? Yeah. Should we play? No, six. Six, excuse me. Six, and then Shihaludes at seven.

Eight should be, I would not just argue for, I guess, Space Godzilla. Uh, oh, wait. We can't have Space Godzilla had a call. Or Kong had a space Godzilla. You set out of respect. That was you. No, that was a bit. No, that was you.

But, Kong is perfectly fine where he is. That was you I agree That's tough Because then I mean it happens sometimes In like college ball Right

Yeah that's true Like just like off Like just off day brand Legacy alone We'll get like You know They played Who have we seen

Space Godzilla play Okay He had that one movie In the in You know Before Slice Bread existed You know what I'm saying

But him today In the 50s I've seen Kong do it year in a year out. He's playing Godzilla. He's finding he's playing Godzilla. You know, I'm saying? Like, that's just different levels of work. He's not winning all those games by a lot of points.

But at the end of the day, I watch who he's competing against, and that's real competition. He didn't win working the year for sure. He got, he got poked by a little guy in a plane. He was playing plumbers and car salesman. Okay. there's no real competition for space Godzilla That's how you That's how you put him at 8

He's all style no substance Also this is still Kong with the axe So he could still defeat Space Godzilla With the spike of a Godzilla Again he needs weapons I know And if he loses that weapon Which he does

It's tough It's tough All right But I guess if he does have that glove The Beast glove He can like punch Space Godzilla in the face And knock him out

So we're at, we're at eight. That's top half of the bracket. Yeah. Space Godzilla at eight. I do think leatherback has to be above knife head. Oh, 100. Okay. Just off, if we're going on, let me push on my glasses.

Leatherhead. So nine leatherback, ten, knife head. Keep saying leatherhead. Leatherhead. I don't know. Leatherback is a category four, Kaiju. Yeah. And knife head is a category three.

Therefore, leatherback is stronger than knifehead. I agree. Okay. And this gives us to Jomey's. Yeah, so right after Knifehead, where are we going? We're in 11 right now. Skullcrawler. I think your Meg is better than the skull crawler.

Yeah, I think the meg is better than, yeah. Interesting. Let's make sure. Remember how they made the scrollcala. The squirrel collar is very strong in Kong Skull Island, but then by Godzilla versus Kong, it was ripped apart so easily and made to be like a punk by a Mecca Godzilla.

So they're very weak in our world. Yeah, fair, fair for fair. In our world, in Hong Kong, I guess. Then are we going Skullcrawler? That probably makes sense. Do you think the Skrullcrawler is weaker than Clover? I mean, yeah. Dude, the Clover's a punk, dude.

It's got real bony knees, though. Whoa, whoa, I think I would put Clover. I would put Clover over at the space, Skullcrawler. Yeah, all right. Clover. Like, if it wasn't for Godzilla versus Kong,

I would have had more respect for the skull crawlers, but they are literal just like ants to everybody else now. All right, so we got Clover at 12 and then we'll do scroll caller.

Yeah. All right, and then we've so then we got marshmallow man and T-Rex, I believe. T-Rex should go next. That T-Rex above marshmallow man?

Yeah, right. All right, and our official seeds are number one, Godzilla. 2, Mothra, Godora, at 3, at 4, Mecha Godzilla, at 5, Shimu, at 6, at 6 Kong, man, we really... At 7, Shihulud, at 8, Space Godzilla,

at 9, Destroya, at 10, leatherback, 11 knifehead, at 12, the Meg, at 13, the Cloverfield Monster, at 14 skull crawlers, at 15, the T-Rex from Jurassic Park. Lost world. Lost world. Sorry. And at 16, the marshmallow man from Ghostbusters. That's a scary-ass monster.

Guys, we did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. How do you feel about this? It went quicker than we thought. I think it was in...

You looked away when I said that. I looked at the time. Stop. We sure didn't. I was doing the official seeds. I think it was clear, like, who's stronger, who's bigger. I'm glad it wasn't so much of, like, a debate where Kong goes. Sorry, apologies to Kong.

We almost played out Kong. Almost shy-h-h-h-h-h-Darty. Apologies to God. Apologies to Kong. You're welcome, King Kong, by the way, for that. Yeah, I think it was a healthy choice. Yeah, I think we got good 16. I think it's a mix of, you know, stuff we're very familiar with and other stuff that, like,

oh, I know that monster. And I think it'll be fun to see what the audience, the audience thing's going to come out on top. I will not swear who I'm going to pick, but they've got atomic breath and can destroy the world if they wanted to. Well, that's one of two. That's one of two.

But we would love to see what you guys think when we put it up on the socials. Let us know. And why, look at that. Jomi, agreeing to work. All right. I got to earn this paycheck somehow. Hey, there he goes.

These bills don't pay themselves, my boy. That's how it goes. That is a wrap, folks. Don't forget, tomorrow on the House of R, they will be giving you their spring hype meter. And on Thursday, the Midnight Boys will be giving you their reactions to Invincible and the X-Men 97 latest episode. And on Friday, the House of Our will celebrate the anniversary of Captain America and the Winter Soldier.

Thank you so much, Junior Mintz once again. Really, like, if you made it this far, really thank you. There's a lot of, a lot of beeps, a lot of edits, you know, just a lot going on this week. And with that, we thank the greatest producer, the most patient producer. Me? No. Jessica Clemens, come on. No.

On this roster that we have here, Kermm, we thank you so much, Jessica Clemens. The fact that you hang out with us this often, it's nuts. I think I made Kerm's job a lot harder today by accident. That's okay. And I apologize. Apologies to Kerm. Thank you so much again. Thank you to our Juno Ramgopal for his additional production work on this episode.

Jomi, do you have any parting words for us? As always, thank you guys for listening. We love you so much, and we appreciate taking your time on your day to listen to our folly. Want to give a shout out to our intrepid producer, one of the goats out here doing the thing, irony streets. Dynomericerm. I thought you're going to say King, Kerm. King Kerm is racist, right? It's just, I can't do.

King Adora. Oh, well, no, because King Kong. Space Kerm. Yeah, space Kerm? Man? The shoulder pads. I think King Kerm a little bit too close. I think Jynormica's too horny.

So what you want? What you want with that? That's fair. That's fair. And we will see you guys next time. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, really quick, really quick. Can you hold for a plot? Yo, my name is Jess Klamans.

No. Make lemonade when life gives you lamins. Oh, no. I'm snitching. Yo, I'm not telling. Yeah, I'm not messing with you if you are failing. And curve suffering, please. Hey.