The Ringer-Verse - ‘Project Hail Mary’ Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

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It is saved. My job is not. It's safe. There's so much game left. Okay? There's so much work we have to do. There's so much new stuff that we have to do as a team. As a brotherhood.

With these skyrocketing gas prices, none of us safe. You know what I'm saying? We live here now. We can't go anywhere else. Anything is possible right now. Let's calm down. Nothing is saved yet. Okay.

So you just, how about this? Your job is saved, but you need to ascend. No, no. If I still need to ascend, then my job is safe. Well, maybe they're a fire. Instead of you surviving, can you thrive? Is it a difference? between job and career.

Right. Yeah. Right. So we got rock'em sock'em robots right here. So listen, here's the thing that I learned. Oh, look. You look, guys, we're back in our new digs. It's fun that we're back.

Hey. Love it here. We've been on, we already did one show here. This wouldn't be the first show that we've actually done here. That's not the way that that works. That would never, that would never happen. Because we got to do. What?

Well, because we did the sentence. We're recording the project El Marybod early. We did the first time in here. We did the sentence one last week. I was going to do it just like Charles, but you said you can't do that. Well, you can't do that. You know what? No, let's not do that.

Let's not go behind the curtain. Let's not go behind the, no. You got to do certain episodes first. Technically, this is the first time all the midnight. Why would you, but you ruin the illusion for you people? But you know why you're not ruining it, though? Because this episode is going to come out after the other episode, which we're already going to talk about the new studio digs in the other episode.

So we're just basically doubling down on it. Because it's great. and we love it. You guys are so restrictive. This is a big problem. I run a strict program. How about that? You don't run a strict program.

Like that's the problem. How about that? You guys so, like, the reality is like, you guys are, loose, lighten up. Who's we? Who's we? Okay, from the dude who don't like Filipino food. We're not, we not trying to.

I don't like Filipino food. I'm not trying to hear that for you. I don't like Indian food. Like, give me other cuisines that ever, like you. You basically like no Asian cuisines. No, that's not true. I like Chinese food. You said

I like Thai food. You said Japanese food. I like Thai food. One trick pony. Come on. What's a one trick pony? Sushi. No.

It's a one trick pony. Japanese food is one trick pony. Ramen don't exist. Wagu beef just completely off. Shout out to Wagu beef. I watched this thing back in the day on Netflix where he talked about the best beef in the world and like, you know,

all this difference of. They were talking about the fact that Wagyu is actually overrated as beef. The beefs that are raised, Brazil, beefs that are raised in different parts of Europe and stuff like that. Wagu is great. It's great. It's great, okay?

But it's better when it's like chefed up by Americans. America, baby. Keep fucking with us. We'll come over there and take over your fucking team. Oh, okay. Oh, get the project here. Wait, let's go. Keep fucking with us if you want to talk about some Japanese.

It'll be fucking, it'll be New Brooklyn over in that bitch. The way we acting right now? God. Send Delta Force in there. Keep fucking with us. That's what we do. Jesus. That's almost over. I'm sorry, guys.

Okay, we're on YouTube. Like, comment, subscribe, share. You can watch every midnight boys in House of our episode on YouTube.com backslash at Ring ofverse and also on Spotify program reminders. On Wednesday, Buttmash gave you their thoughts on Crimson Desert. Now, what is that? That is a new action RPG from the people that did an MMO. The name escapes me. But it's, I've been playing it a little bit myself.

It's a wild game. It's a very complicated and kind of like adventure, like Zelda, Breath of the Wild type of stuff. Yeah. Tune in next week for the mid-bye boys As a motherfucker ever, like dog,

you were an assholes There was no need for the head What? What? What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened?

You ask a question Steve's a good answer And you're like, He said a nerd. That's not what I did. Nerd. What did you? What did you do?

That's not what I did. That's not what I did. At all. I didn't do it at all. What was it? He explained Crimson Desert. Okay. He did it very well.

This week, the house of our doing, bullshit. They can't do it all. I'm trying to create, I'm trying to create value for the other things that are happening on the network. Right.

So I said he took Crimson Desert. And then you, and then you, and then you, God, can I perform? Like, my thing is this. Restrictive.

Tune in next week, the Midnight Boys, their reactions to Daredevil Born Again Season 2. Wow, what a doozy. Yeah, we're back. Back already. A doozy. It seemed like when it ended, I was like, goddamn, it's got a way long time for it.

It's already back. It's already back. We're making TV again. I mean, technically, wasn't this supposed to be part of, like, season one? Was it? And they chopped it in half, right? Yeah, well, they fast-tracked it after they, like,

they threw the old season in the can. So this is what I'm unclear on, Because I don't think so. I thought that they were, but maybe. I thought that they were, that what they came back and shot was what they tacked on to the end of season one. Right.

And this season two is stuff that they shot after they developed some more story. But originally, what I thought, to your point, was that season one was going to end and it was going to be like a month, a month and a half, and then they were going to come back and drop the season two. Because I thought it was like 20 plus episodes,

and I think we ended up only getting like eight or 10. Yeah. So part of me is I'm like, was this basically part of season one? They basically were just like, we're going to give you the reworked stuff and we're going to refilm Jerry again. I don't fucking know. Okay. We don't know.

But we hope that it's good. Yeah. So let's move on. Okay, on today's show, the Midnight Boys will give you their instant reactions to Project Hill Mary, Ph.M. starring Ryan Gosling, directed by Lord Miller. Yeah. Drew Goddard's script produced by Amy Pascal.

All of the heavy hitters were brought out this movie that's developed from a book by the brilliant Andy Weir. Let's talk about this. Writer of the Martian. Writer of the Martian, high, just bleeding edge science fiction mind. And I also think what's interesting about this is this seems like the first real gambit for Amazon studios in terms of like big blockbuster theatrical movie making. It seems like they, obviously they want it to be a success, but they're putting a lot of money into just making this seem like an event. Yeah, yeah.

The scope of the movie, the promotion behind the movie, this is a big swing. This is what's called a big swing. Now, obviously, this book is a book that, you know, a lot of people love. But this is taking the chance on a star, on a concept, and going big. Would you say that this is the first salvo for like Blockbuster C-D? And this feels like the first movies that's gonna like kind of like get us fast-tracked into like

what I would say is the biggest blockbuster year in recent memory in terms of like big bets that have to work. Odyssey, Dune, Avengers. Spider-Man. Yeah. Supergirl.

All right. Let's look at it. Scream. Jackass. Well, scream didn't. Oh, yeah, Jackass. Michael Jackson. Scream fucked.

I'm all say. Ficked up ours. Scream went. Triple-limit. And that scary movie. Scary movie, yeah. Oh, boy. Are we going to have to talk about scary movie

when that comes out? I mean, we might as well. I think we should. We should. So, yeah, I mean, why not? Scary movie's fine. It's, it's, I'm into it. Okay, I'm into it.

This is like a packed schedule. Mandalorian and Grogel, Toy Story 5, Minions 3, Moana, Spider-Man, okay, all of this stuff is coming out. It's all coming out. Why don't we have a Spider-Man trailer yet? That's four months of a movie.

It feels weird. Do you guys think they're going to push it back? No. Or is there no? But we haven't had a trailer. Trailers have been kind of breaking late, though. Mandelary and Grogu only recently had their own, like, full-on trailer until... I mean, this is cutting in close, but remember, I want to say Love and Thunder, or one of

the Thor movies, we didn't get a trailer to, like, four months before the movie came out. Yeah. We're cutting it, like, really close in regards to not seeing a trailer. But I feel like in the next couple of weeks, we should see one. All right, so without any more... This episode is brought to you by Spectrum Business. Fast, reliable internet means everything for your business. And even this podcast, that's why I trust Spectrum Business.

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Spoilers for the movie. And the book for everything. It's very involved script, very high concept movies. So if you want to be surprised, do not listen to this podcast after you've seen the movie. We're getting ready to talk about Project Hail Mary. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Chuck, Midnight Manifest.

All right. This is your Midnight Manifest for Project Hell Mary, directed by Lordy Miller. written by True Goddard based on the 2021 novel by Andy Weir starring Ryan Gosling, Sandra Huller, Lionel Boyce, Ken Long, and Malana Van Trubb. Here's going to be very long. Strapid. In the future, the song along with the surrounding solar system is dimming. Rylan Grace, a former molecular biologist now teaching at a junior high school,

teaches his class about the Earth-impending ice age and the 30-year timeline to do something about it. The teacher is approached by Eva Stratt, a government official in charge of stopping this calamity. Grace discovers that the sun is dimming thanks to an alien microcontralialial. road that consumes electromagnetic radiation. He calls it astrophage and uses it as fuel. Project Hail Mary begins to take shape as the scientist plot of course to Tau Ceti in hopes of studying the star that has resisted infection from the single-celled organism.

Unfortunately, the team only has enough fuel for a one-way trip, which means dooming the astronauts on board to death. But before take-off, an explosion kills all the scientists trained for the mission. Grace is drugged by Stratt, given amnesia medication, and force to board the ship. When Grace wakes up, he's already aboard the flying shuttle, but realizes that the rest of the crew perish during the journey. As Grace starts to regain his memories, he's approached by another ship and meets its only surviving inhabitant, the alien, Rocky, who is a spider-like rock creature from the planet Eridani. After developing a way to communicate with the alien,

Grace discovers that Rocky is also trying to save his world from Asrophage. The two survivors form a friendship and work together to collect a sample that will save their planet, buddy cop, hijinks ensue, but when Grace realizes the Taumiba he engineered to save both Earth and Eridani will eat Rocky's ship, the Astroenite sacrificed. is his ride home and goes back to save his pal. By movies and both planets are saved with Grace now living on Ayrid, teaching the young population about science

that has been your midnight manifest. I'll start with you. Van? Thoughts on Project Helmarry? Let's do this a little differently. A little different. This movie is very, very dense. Yes.

Two hour? Over two hours? Over two hours. Two 40. 240. Yeah. Two 40. Closer to three.

So let's, because my instant reaction is I thought the movie was phenomenal. Legitimately phenomenal. Not a perfect movie. And I have to say this all the time because it is now our reflex when someone says that they really, really enjoyed something for everybody else to run into the theater and expect to come out and have watched The Godfather, which also is not a perfect movie. I can name you perfect movies, but those two films are not perfect. Okay. Well, can I ask you, going off what you're saying?

Do you think part of this, and I think I had to get over it when I walked in the theater, is that I think part of the promotion and many of the early reactions, we're kind of putting this movie because it's a space movie in the same lane as an interstellar, the Martian. And to me, this movie, even though it's a space movie, even though it does what those movies have done, which is take a movie star that we love

and basically force them into space where they are basically carrying an entire movie by themselves and their charisma. And while I think, obviously, this has a lot of the DNA of something like The Martian, to me it's almost a different project where it's not as... There's dramatic elements to this movie,

but to me this is almost a more family-friendly version of something like Interstellar or The Martian, which, like, it took me a while to wrap my head around that because I think some of the positioning of it is positioning in terms of, like, films that, to me, are a little bit more existential and serious, and this movie can be that, but it is kind of a family-friendly wrong.

Yeah. In a lot of ways to me. Why are you doing that? What? Why are you going into the movie with thoughts of other films, like, dancing around in your head? Well, I mean... No, because that,

To me, that was a lot of the early reaction. It's a bit of such. I mean, written, both books written by Andy Weir of this one and The Martians. Both written by Drew Goddard, right? Or, yeah, the screenplays were in Byrd and did The Martian. No, no, no. He did The Martian and then, like, I mean, I know for a fact that Andy, where we talked about it. We saw it in Comic Con, where he was like, we wanted Drew God to do this script.

We literally waited for him to finish. whatever project she was working on to do this. So I could understand why Charles would then see. And then a lot of the critics coming out of those first screenings, I think they were obviously very, like, enthused. And I think those were like the early comparisons. And even in some of the like marketing and interviews, I think they were trying to situate the movie.

Well, also I think they hid the ball for a while, which was Rocky. Because I didn't really know about Rocky until the trailer hit. Because I didn't read the book. And I was like, oh. What was that comic? Con. I didn't go to that panel. So this is what I'm saying. So two things. I think that's interesting. Number one, surrender to the movies.

Yeah. Just surrender to the movies. Surrender to the film. Surrender to it. You come out of the movie, you want to compare it to other films, that's fine. If you go into the movie comparing it to other films, just in general, you just can't enjoy the film. And you really can't even, to me, you really, you can't even, forget about enjoy it, because you might enjoy you might not. But if you have another movie in your head when you're watching a movie and it's not a sequel,

then you can't even experience the film. Yeah, you're setting yourself up to fail for your enjoyment. This movie is a lot like the Martian in so far as like you can tell that where's DNA is in it and it's the same screenwriter. But at the same time,

it took very little time for me to realize that it's a totally different movie from The Martian. Very different. Really? Like, yeah. Easily. I don't know if it's totally different.

I would. would push back on that. It's conceptually not that different. No. Being that well, it's conceptually different. It's actually conceptually significantly different. A guy gets stuck in space. A guy gets stuck in space, but

there's the difference between this and the Martian is that in the Martian he's trying to save himself and this movie he's trying to save everything. Yeah. But to me they're both process movies, which I think certainly. Which I think the author and Goddard are very good. To me, that's the most interesting part is like putting someone who was fair like a botanist in Matt Damon or um grace who was just the teacher he's not supposed to be there and then using science and their love of science to

figure out a solution to a myriad of problems i think it's a structure that works that honestly that comparison to the martian i think is not only fair i think it's why i ended up liking the movie a lot because i was just like oh this is a process movie and these creators know how to do process i think i think i'm not being argumentative i think that like Like the film itself is when you look at it, it feels familiar if you saw The Martian and you love the Martian, right? And I think they know that, which is why they brought some of the team back to kind of, because you need to do some translating here and stuff like that. However, the Martian for all of its drama is a light movie. It's light. This movie is not light.

No. No. No. No. No. No. This movie is investigating purpose, loneliness, connection, desperation. There's a hero, there's a call to journey in this movie that does not exist in the Martian.

Watney is so devastatingly brilliant that the marvel of the Martian is his self-survival. That's the marvel of it. Like he's growing potatoes out of shit. He's solving all these different problems. It's like you fall into the character of Mark. At a certain point in this movie, I forgot that they had to save the world because these two people,

who might be the last two people on the universe, right? If things go bad, like, they became, it's a love story. They became like the connection between them how they had to learn to work together. They had to learn to work together to help each other, but they had to help each other to save everybody. And I thought that it was

bordering on profound, particularly in the times that we live in, how the survival of the entire everyone, everything bordered on whether or not these two characters could connect and whether or not they could get over fear, whether or not they could get over reservation, whether or not across galaxies, two cultures could actually form a cooperation. And the Martian just doesn't have any

it at it. Right. Like it has that in so far as, you know, like, whatever, there's a human drama, there's the element, there's, like, all of that stuff. But, like, maybe the particular point I'm at in my life right now, just how things are in the world right now, I found this movie to be, like, insanely moving. And that's the best part of the movie is Rocky

and Brian and Grace's relationship. I thought in the book, it's done really well. But even, like, the first time we meet Rocky, or Grace meets Rocky, It starts with like a scary movie Stinger, right? Like he hits his hand on the glass and like the music goes loud. He's supposed to like, it's like a jump scare, right? But then slowly but surely when they get more comfortable, when there's more lights, right?

The movie brings you into their world together. And you're like, okay, where does this go? And I think throughout the story, like there's a scene where he's like trying to whisper. He's trying to like tell like, oh, Rocky can hear me no matter like how soft I am. and they have this like banter that just goes throughout the film. I thought that held the movie down and everything else was also excellent. And so when you're like, it's not a perfect movie, it's not a perfect movie, but it's a damn good one. I wouldn't say it's a perfect movie either, but I think my enjoyment of it is perfect.

What this movie does so well is that it marries the passion that Grace has for science while also getting the audience up to speed on the things that are important to push the story. along, but not bog you down on it. I push back on, I actually like this a lot more than the Martian because I feel like the science and the botany of it all kind of weighed down a little bit what the actual plot and fun of it is. Granted, that's a story about

survival and you want to explain how he survives. But in this, it's more about, okay, we need a centrifuge because I need gravity to perform these experiments properly. This is how you make gravity in space. And then we move on. And now every single time you see that ship

spinning, you know exactly what's happening. The movie does a really good job of reorienting itself around Rocky and Grace versus the science of the book. It does both. There'll be pages of them like fearing out like how far Taucedi is from and we have to do controlled burns. And how you figure out this like all of that is accurate and interesting. But like at some point I'm like, all right, I don't need to know how a centrifuge works. I just want to know what they're up to next in the next chapter. And in the movie, they're just like, you know, it's Rocky and Grace work. together to solve the problem. I think that's, I think that's the magic in the film and why I enjoyed it so much.

Man, the scene, because again, it's all emotional in the book. You're reading it. You can imagine these characters, whatever. But to see it on screen, especially in IMAX, by the way. And I know, you know, we did spoiler warning. If you watch, I hope you watch an IMAX. It's, like, incredible. When he realizes that the Talmiba goes through the Xenai.

That's going to eat Rocky Ship. That's going to eat Rocky Ship. Yeah. And I'm just like, yo, man. Again, I know he's going to go back and save his boy. But in the theater, I'm like, you got to go get him back. You got to go get him back.

You know, I think the movie just handled that particular relationship with such grace and such care that, like, regard, like, the other stuff maybe could have fallen short and I still would have had a good time. But the fact that everything else was on a pretty, like, equal level. In that relationship, his relationship with Strata. Like, the whole thing just like, worked in a way that I think I haven't seen

in a movie in a long time. So, give me you guys an example of something. So there's nothing in this film, you know that the world will be saved. Well, we've had this conversation before. You know that the world will be saved. You know, they'll figure out a way to save the world. So the question is, in a movie where you know the ending,

any film. Asgast is this for any film. In a movie where you know the ending, how can you make a journey of enough of mystery to where you can still be surprised. Right? So here, give me an example.

Our lead is a reluctant hero. I don't think reluctant is the right word. He didn't want to be there at all. No, no, no, no, no. Let me go back. I'm going before this. Because his hero's journey

doesn't start when they ask him to go into space. His hero journey starts when they ask him to come and help them. He doesn't want to do that. Right. So for everyone that

doesn't know, Our hero is brilliant. He's a disaffected brilliant man who has chosen to spend his life educating students. We see that these students, even at the beginning of the movie, have questions about, like, how long the world has left because this astrophage is eating the sun. The first thing he does is sort of try to placate them a little bit. sort of try to say, hey, everybody the smartest people in the world are working on this, things are going to be fine.

It's about 30 years away. That doesn't work. That sets up the rest of the film. That doesn't work. Trying to act like this problem isn't existential, is not going to work. And that scene is important because the kids keep asking more questions

and the more questions that they ask, the more frightening the answers get. that is essentially how this movie will reconcile itself for the rest of it the more questions we ask the more frightening the questions get and then the more emotionally weighty the questions get the movie is a film that interrogates the very nature of what you should do

but that's not even what I was aiming at saying this entire time we know he's in space we think we know how he got there we don't we don't know how he got there there we meet these astronauts that are already passed away but then we actually meet more astronauts

that should have gone so then the entire time I'm watching the movie I'm like well how the fuck did he get up there does he make the decision to go up there and sacrifice himself no he never did they made him yeah like they made him to me

this is the central operating program of the movie which is that throughout all of this shitty stuff, there's still love to be had. Yeah. Like, there's still love to be had. He was kidnapped by his government.

You can't do that. That's illegal. Well, actually, not by his government. Well, not by all governments. Strat has, like, unlimited unchecked power. She could do whatever she wants. Right. So he was forced there. He's a storeway in space.

He could have gone crazy and decided not to do any of this. Yeah. But connection brought him out of his funk. And that's what really was missing from his life. He had decided. for whatever things that had gone wrong in his life to sever himself from everybody else. Well, I mean, the movie does do a good job of saying that basically was ridiculed by the science community,

which I think kind of put him in a position where it's like, I think deep down he is a teacher. And I think it is, it says something about his character that, like, he's teaching children who have not been raised yet to ridicule someone who might have an out-there idea like that. But I think that was like a powerful thing of the movie. where it's like part of his hero's journey is reaching out to someone he can't communicate with to find the humanity within himself, which I think was a very, I think there's a lot of cliche ways to get

to that point in most of movies. And I think this movie does a very, very great job with how they play with time, how they play with what you know and when you know it, basically to your point being like, wait, but when does the hero decide to actually sacrifice? himself and you realize I'm just like oh we're seeing it happen in real time yeah and that's

the that's a great part it and it's pure structure it's really nothing like there isn't any sort of like yes the overlying stakes is like the world will die in 30 years or he might not get home or he likely won't get home and he's got to find something to be brave for but all of the things that the movie structures itself around around grace's journey with not just self-discovery but the discovery of things to be brave for is entirely so well thought out with this. And it makes for probably the most serious and contemplative movie that Lord and Miller has ever made.

I didn't really think that they had this in them. I expected this to be a lot more like silly and funny. And it is and it's incredibly joyful and outright hilarious at some points. But it's very meaningful and moody and artistic when it wants to be because the way that Lord Miller tries to make Grace's emotions a bit more

of a thing that's bound to Earth and he's now more focused on the central problem when he's up there in space and alone. I think it's so brilliantly done that when we have this end product, I have the same feeling that I walked away with the book, which is kind of like

the purest form of what science, I think science fiction should be, and it's through connection and common cause, people can do anything. It's funny, none of the more emotional profound stuff worked on me. It was all like, because I think Lord and Miller

what they're actually really good at is when you take 21 Trump Street or the Spider-verse movies or how much like kind of the bones of Han Solo. I think they are very, you get this sense that they are kids playing with toys

whereas just like there is like a freedom anything can happen and even in the joke structure. They're just thrown so much stuff at you and I think it I can tell why they were chose for this project because you need that. between Gosling and Rocky.

You need that sense of play. I just don't know, like, I was that sad. I was never just like, I was just like, I'll give you this, I'll give you the shit so you can go back home. Like, I saw my whole crew die, but I'm not going to let you die. You didn't like fucking...

No, he's dead and son. Don't worry about it. All right, okay, let's talk about Ryan Gosling. That was about to say, yeah. All right, so it, this, so Ryan Gosling is, is actually, in a lot of ways, at a very interesting point in his career.

So Barbie in 23, the Fall Guy, which is a good movie. Good movie. Good movie. All right. Project Held Mary. He's got Starfighter coming out, and then he's got something out coming out called Love is Your Life. He's made less movies than you think he has, although he's consistently been in our face.

His first man in 18 was Swain and didn't quite work out. The Grey Man was his first movie in four years after that. It was enjoyable for what it was. Didn't quite work out before that. La La La Land, Nice guys. big short. He has like, all that stuff.

Ryan Gosling in this role as Grace thoughts. Pitch perfect. Absolutely pitch perfect. I don't think that he's been a blue chip stock for a charismatic movie star for like the better part of a decade and a half

now. And him solo with a puppet, which by the way, like love the fact that Rocky is a practical effect. Loved it. voiced by his own puppeteer. he carries it. He carries it perfectly. He's probably one of the best

like physical comedy screamers that we have nowadays. And he handles this brilliantly. And it's everything from the way that he chooses to like rest his glasses on his cheek and his jaw and kind of like huddles and like subverts himself.

Like he doesn't, he isn't a chameleon by any means, but you feel comfortable in every single role that he takes on. And he's perfect for this. I think I tend to, to like Ryan Gosling when he is more in like the drive blade runner

facet of his career and I think what Barbie helped him to do is like tap into something where I think like the first time around his career maybe he wasn't ready for it which is just like the oh not only am I going to be the leading man I'm going to be like the charming leading man

and that's I think he like made a very very clear decision be like I'm going to take some weird fucking roles and show you my range and I think this It makes sense that he's at this part in his career where it's just like, no, I'm stepping back out here now. Like, I'm the person. Fall guy, Barbie, Project Hail Mary to me all makes sense

in terms of like the movie star trajectory. But I think I feel the same way about Brad Pitt. I tend to like Brad Pitt when he less has to be like leading, leading man in front and gets to kind of be a weirdo on the side. Yeah, but. And I don't think that makes sure. I think, I mean, I think we just mentioned that. I think it all comes from nice guys.

I think you watch nice guys and you go, oh, my. gosh. He's the funniest man on earth. He's always done the roles like this. No, no, no. The crazy stupid love, all of that. No, yeah. You're, like, you're right. There was an evolution when Ken came out.

Man. When nice guys in Ken, it's like he leveled up his comedic shop. This guy might be one of the funniest movies I've seen. Right. But Ryan Gosling at his center, I'm not disagreeing with you guys. Like, I was actually surprised more so that he could do drive.

I mean, he, only God forgives the stoicism. Half Nelson, all of that. Those are the rules. It's like, his range is insane, right? In terms of like what it is they can do. I guess there's a part of this

where people were wondering exactly what kind of movie saw Ryan Gosling is. He's very comparable to Brad Pitt insofar as that like he takes enough different roles that he doesn't want you to really know. So one movie he's going to sing and dance. The next movie he's going to do, there are not a lot of guys who would play the Ken role

because it's a Barbie movie and you play Ken and you come in there and you have to do what you have to do to kind of steal the scenes that you're in when the movie's oriented around the Barbie character. He did do that though. In this movie I thought the performance was really good because you never really got a sense of the character in any way besides his connection to Rocky.

That's really all you know about him. You know that he has deep feelings about Rocky. You know that he's brilliant, but you're not sure if they talk a little bit about his love life. It's mysterious how he got this disconnected. It's mysterious how a scientist that has so much to prove doesn't jump at the opportunity to help solve this problem. Right. Like all of these things kind of don't make sense.

That's why one particular scene in the movie stood out to me. And it was when he reveals to Rocky that. he actually does want to go back to Earth. Like, I was fully bought in with the fact that he was okay up there going crazy and dying on his own. There was no reason for me to believe anything else. All he did for the entire movie was put distance between him and somebody, right? And then when Rocky, like, offers to sacrifice and add time to his journey back to send him back so he can live out of life, Ryan Gosling, his entire countenance drops, tears start to fall

and he is actually happy to go back home. The whole movie I was wondering yo, there's no anger. Yeah. Like he's been forced into this mission and now we know he's been forced into the mission and he's not mad because of the amnesia. Right,

right. Well, the amnesia is a part of that. That makes a lot of sense. But like when he actually decides that he wants to go back to Earth, I was like, oh my God, a human And Gosling played that perfectly. Yeah.

Like totally, totally perfectly. I also think it kind of speaks to the types of characters that weird chooses to write, at least when it comes to protagonists, because in The Martian, Matt Damon's a lot different of a character than Grace's. Because he is inherently charismatic and has people to talk to constantly. He doesn't get to, like, Grace doesn't get to talk to people or have these sort of like, like interstitial like moments of humanity while he is trying to survive or solve problems.

The only time that we get that is when he meets Rocky. And it's kind of a John Everyman from both sides of this because like you both have this like plain looking white guy that can have this brilliant gift of trying to survive in an impossible situation. But getting down to the core of like what separates him from humanity, Matt Damon always wanted to go home. And it's driving his entire.

decisions to do so. When you get to see Grace's humanity fall through everything just for the sake of solving a problem and just be selfish like he kind of was back when he was on Earth, that was to me more powerful. And I really kind of want to get a discussion going about whether or not he was a coward. Because there's a, like, I've had this discussion after I've read the books and talked to other people with it. And I've heard a lot of people say that like, yeah, Grace was a coward for not wanting to go up.

up and do the mission. That's ridiculous. But it's happened. Whoa. Would you go to? No, I wouldn't. Of course I wouldn't. You want me to die for my government?

Fuck, no. Well, Charles, it's all the governments and all the people. Yeah, all the government's good. Suck my dick. When, when face with the actual end of you,

there's no such thing as cowardice. There's only bravery. Right. So like, there's, if it's actually the end of you, if there's actually the end of you, only bravery exists, no cowardice exists.

Now, if you're going to survive it and you choose the cowers way out, to me, then you could be a coward. Yeah, but if you're turning down fades, but if, like, you know that you're going somewhere, and after you go there, you wake up, you die, there's no such thing as somebody being a coward for not wanting to do that.

There are only the brave people that would choose the death. But it's the assumption that anybody that would ever sign up to work on that project would do the same. What do you mean? Would go up. What do you mean? Like if any other scientists, any other astronaut,

any other engineer were faced with the decision who's like, it's nobody else but you, that they would go. I don't know that. But it doesn't matter. Like he didn't sign on to the thing to go up there for two years, right? You know what I mean?

To like to give his life, he didn't sign on for it. Like it actually that scene, the scene where he just goes, hey I'm not going once again those are the in this type of high science fiction those are the scenes

to me that make the movie relatable oh yeah because it's like an interstellar they send all of the people up there there's one line in interstellar they send all of the people up there the ones that coop and and what's her name in there

Amy Hathaway's Amelia Ann Hathaway What's your name in there whatever Coop and the rest of them I just watched it they they they send all of them up there and they knew they weren't coming back and then Dr. Brand says or not actually not Dr. Brand Wes Bentley's character says hence the bravery

they're brave they go up there they know they're not coming back they're just not a lot of those people Brands brand Dr. Brands is brand but that's her she is brand her father's also brand but this is not a lot of those people yeah so like like there's people there's not a lot of like your your grandpas and the people that went and stormed beaches and did all that crazy.

It's just not a lot of those people. So, like, the people that didn't go aren't cowards, the people that did go are brave. I mean, but do you think that's the difference between when you lean on the science in science fiction versus the fiction where it's like most people aren't Luke Skywalker? Most people aren't, this isn't due. You know what I'm saying? I think the thing that makes Ryan Gosling relatable and gives his character so much room to

grow is that, like, 99.9% of people would be like, I'm not going because he's not trained to do it. You know what I mean? Like it's odd to me that almost made me love him more because I'm just like, yeah, of course I would not want to go. Like he does not have anything mooring him to Earth. And what I think is so interesting about his journey and I think is something very smart that Lord Miller decide is like they punctuate the movies with a lot of him watching Earth. And it's like I think it's something so true to life where it's like you might be miserable at home, but it's home. And it's not until

you leave that you realize maybe you weren't living, maybe you weren't connecting. And I think that that's what makes his sacrifice at the end so grand, is because he finally gets it what he realized he didn't know we wanted, and then he sacrifices it all for his friend. Right.

Because he's now more to something. The supporting cast here is pretty good. Lionel Boyce as Steve Hatch. Great. Sandra Huller is it, Hewler? As Eva Strat. Milana Von Trub As, it's good to see her.

It's good to see her. Yeah, it's good to see her. Yeah, it's good to see her. I want to talk about Strat. I love these characters in these movies. Great, yeah. Because I always wonder, how do they pick that person? Strat is the person that is the leader of the Hail Mary Project. I think about, okay, so something's eating the sun. There are calls that are made. There's these multinational corporations or think tanks that come together.

How do they choose the person that has to run the whole thing? Because you've got to know a little science. You've got to be a little bit of an administrator. Speak a lot of languages. Speak a lot of languages, the whole nine. Well, I think the movie showed a really good job. You know, she was willing to do whatever he took. Really, she saved the world.

Yes. She was literally like, and you don't want to go. Ah, brother. Well, we're getting you there. There is no no. Right. I was hoping you'd say yes. but we're gonna give him to me,

we're gonna try, get her to put you in space. I think that's, that for her is what made the difference. This is like, cool, I'm gonna do whatever it takes. And it's that brilliant karaoke scene

where, like, Ron Gosting's trying to chip away at, like, making jokes with her or trying to be, like, a bit dry.

And then everybody, and, like, he doesn't understand why everybody's being so happy. And the fact that his kind of, like, emotional safety rests with her because she was the one

that brought him on and kind of did that. I could tell that even she sang karaoke for him, for him. And she did it and she kind of cut loose a little bit but the moment that she had

to button it up and she's like and that is enough and then like I'm like this is why you pick that person that acting was brilliant

that character is perfectly embodied I have no complaints that is what happens when a bar shows up to the employee function you like damn

you do half a song everybody was turning around like what what's going on also that scene was funny because like fucking grace was just like damn why they're so happy

why is everybody fucking is it what they're there to do we're doing heroin up there up there. We're doing heroin up there. You know, we haven't taught that much about Rocky.

I love. Beautiful. I love Rocky. I love Rocky so much. That character is easy to fuck up. Yeah. Especially with how cynical things are now with moviegoing fans and stuff like that.

The swing, obviously this comes from the book as well-established IP, but the swing of having to make audiences care about a non-humanoid creature that doesn't have a face and you're only really experiencing this creature, this guy through his connection to a human being. It's a pretty big swing nowadays for me. To me, it's just like everybody's so down on everything and like we're all so grounded that I was just surprised at all of the dancing stuff making of the space. I'm surprised that it worked. It worked so well. I think

part of that is, we talked about earlier, the practicality of Rocky, right? The fact that, like, you can tell that they were both there and that Rocky was in those scenes with Ryan Gosling. I think it just makes it feel more alive and you can feel that connection when they're doing the hug and he's like, how long does this this going to take question? Is it over now? Question, you know? And I think part of that magic, too, is So James Ortiz did the voice, right?

Like on set. And they were like, well, you know, we'll get somebody famous to do whatever. And then they were in the editing band, they realized like, oh, no, you can't like recreate the connection that they have like on set between Rocky and Grace in the movie.

Like we can't just put an actor there to redouble lines. It doesn't work. Good Merrill Streep joke, though. Great Merrill Street joke. But like that takes, again, that takes the movie to another level where you can just feel

the, between Rocky and Grace scrolling as the movie goes along. And it really was that that moment in the book when they are figuring out how to speak to each other and like how you can discern language between somebody else, I could not put the book down at that point. Because when you have to like figure out between this thing or this person or anybody, what is a word for table and how you can say that and to somebody be like, what is this? And then they have to say it and then you have to figure that out. in the span of the book that's like they really broke down how you could figure out languages between people

and that was the most fascinating ever because when they had because when you have Rocky's actual cadence in the movie it's broken and it feels like a child or it feels like what you would do if you gave a voice to a dog or something like that. Question?

And it works and it's brilliant and it's all that you really need to know but the nuance of that to know that Rocky is probably actually world smarter than Grace because his species actually sent up a brilliant scientist. Well, in the book, they tell you.

In the book, they tell you. Like, he's way smarter than I ever would. I am, yeah. But, like, that's what kind of makes this amazing because it's all through Grace's perspective and all through his interpretation of what Rocky is to him. And that's really all that we need.

We don't really need the connection of what Grace means to Rocky because we've seen it through his lens the entire time. And because by the time that you get back to Rocky's planet, he's kind of made this entire biome for him just so that he can live out his days for as long as he wants. For his homie, man.

You hate that. I enjoyed the movie. What are you guys talking about? Would you build a biome for one of us? Of course I would. Yeah? Of course I would. What would be in your biome?

Hey, listen, you're on Rocky's planet. You can make whatever setting that you want in the world. Well, I had questions. I honestly did. First of all, they build the biome, right? Does that mean he's just chilling by himself? Or it's like, how are we introducing him to the rest of the world? Because he has a little, he's teaching the little kids,

but they can't all breathe the same thing. No, no, that's why they're behind the glass. Oh. They're not on Zoom or anything. Damn, that's still a lot. I don't know why. I thought they were on Zoom. No, no, they were just getting like a little, he's like in a zoo.

He's like in an enclosure. But that's so sad. Wait a minute. What planet are they on? They're on air it. Yeah. So they all came there? Yeah.

Well, no, no, no. Ryan Gosling's on the plane. Yeah, Ryan and Grace went to Arid. Right. Right. And they built, you have the laptop, all the scientists built a biome for him so he could live on Ayrid safely. Right. And so, so I, so Ragi has a little suit.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's walking around on the beach on Aird. Yeah. He built a bio. They built an entire. They built an entire. SpongeBong? They built an entire atmosphere.

They built a sandy dome. Big bowl. Exactly. But the kids are really there. That's not on Zoom. No. They are behind. some glass so they can breathe so they can breathe the air and what may be yeah how did the kids

get there it's like it's a zoo it's like imagine you're the line in the enclosure wait a second the kids are in the i'm confused that's why you're confused this one i'm confused about this this the planet that they're on rocky's planet they're on rocky's planet they're on rocky's planet okay they're on earth no i thought they were on i thought they were actually on uh oh on adrian no they're not on adrian Okay, they're on Rock's planning. They're on Rockies. They're on Rockies planning. Wait, why don't we see Rock and we didn't get to see Rocky's old girl?

We didn't get to see Adrian. Yeah. Shit. Yeah. And then Rocky's wearing his little suit because he's hanging out with him. He's inside of the bio. And the kids, I didn't, I didn't see the partition there. But that to me is a very sad existence.

You know what I'm saying? I want to hang out everybody. I feel like, I feel like Grace fucks with it. I mean, he doesn't mind. His only friend in the world is Rocky. Yeah. Right? So like, that's why, you know, man, I love this.

this moment because it's it's real like in the movie and real the true life you got your homie they've like hey man you can leave whenever you want your your son is good and he's like I'm gonna think about it he's like it take as long as you take as long as you need big also keep in mind they they know how to speak to each other without a translation anymore yeah they've learned each other's languages like he's been there for a while been there for a minute man well how long would it take grace to get back home I would imagine what definitely Astrophage, probably like, I mean, what? Maybe a long time, maybe like six plus years maybe.

I mean, but he's on Rockies planet. So it's going to take even longer. Yeah, we'll even know where that. We don't know what that is. I mean, astrophage lets you travel closer to the speed of light because it's like, there's a lot of, it's not minimum, but it's a lot of fuel that it's light and you can carry a lot of it and it can travel. It burns really hot, travel really far and really fast with it. But ultimately, it just depends on, like, how far.

By the way. It is from Earth. The astrophage is not done. It's not done. The astrophage is going to have their revenge. It will return in D-Dembourg. Project Hell Mary, too. Two-as-o-to-Fage.

The astrophage is coming back. Uh-huh. It's still there. The stuff that ate the sun, we're still using it. Like, we got astrophage on Earth. I hope you guys don't think that the governments of the Earth aren't going to find a way to weaponize the astrophage. This is my biggest question now because all of these stories,

I love it when stories do this because they're like, okay, all of the governments have like squashed all beef and now we're like a coalition of the willing and we're going to solve this problem. Now the world is solved. What happens now? Do we just all go back to squabbling and fighting?

We have astrophage bombs. I mean, you saw what was it? A millier of astrophage could do. Can you melt like an entire block of... Well, no, to the two scientists that got blown up. Right? Now imagine if you had like three tons of astrophage what you could do to a small country

if that's what you felt like doing. Right? I don't think we're that woke, even after the death of millions, I assume, during the Ice Age. I'm like, great, we warmed everything up, we're cool. Now, how do we turn this into guns and bombs? Does that cloud your judgment of wanting to save the earth? It's like, well, what am I saving? I mean, that's not really that.

I wouldn't even get that far. I don't really get that far. That's the struggle. The human condition, Steve. That's science fiction, baby. I'm not that welcome, sorry. You want to, you want to weaponize the astrophage. I don't want to weaponize the astrophage.

I'm just saying if a strap was like, hey, you're only in person. We need somebody who knows TikTok really well to be on this spaceship. Honestly, are you going? I'm like, if you don't get Alex Earle, me. Right. If you don't get tape of crazy, leave me home. Another one of my questions is, what do you think it is about space that, like, aging white movie stars are just like, bro? Get me in space.

Not only get me in space. I need to be alone. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like Brad Pitt was dealing with his daddy issues in space. Matthew McConaughey. Matthew McConaughey, Matt Damon, now Ryan Gosling. Like there is something about the aging white movie star where they're like, I've got to be a loaded face.

Final Frontier. Final Therapy Frontier. I mean, that's really it, right? We don't think about the ocean as a place of discovery and wonder and magic, right? We're not staring every day looking down at the ocean, but we look up and we go. Look at the stars. Look at the moon. We haven't been there yet.

Endless. It's a void of space, right? You can do anything in there. I think that's what it is. And the fish is at the bottom. How does the movie change if you, like, put it like a black guy in space or black one? Oh, so like fast, like, what was it, Fast 9? Fast 9?

Where they had a Ludacris and the homie in space? Like, what would I be thinking about in space? Yeah, you know what I mean? So here's a movie Van would make. Okay. And it would be so, so trained, or so plain, but in space. And you would just put every single black actor that is from 28 to 50, 55, every single one.

Kevin Hart, Tiffany Haddish, all of them, just put them in a movie. And it would basically be like Star Trek. Are the biratials allowed in space? Are the biracial is allowed in space. I would never make this what you're talking about. That's actually your movie. I've never made anything like that.

Right. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. What space movie would you make? The black people. Well, you know, the movie, the one that I'm doing, think about that. Think about the novel that I'm writing. I told you all about it.

Oh, my God. Yeah. So, but no, but no. You know, it's interesting that you said, I don't know, one reason why we don't do this is because I don't think that white audiences by the brilliance of black people. I think a lot of these movies

that are you talking about the people math in their way out of shit. You put Will Smith or one of these people up there like, and not to make this serious and waity, you put Will Smith up there, you put somebody else up there, people can start asking questions. It's like, we ain't never seen a niggas

getting a Nobel Prize for no shit like this. And like, I'm just, I'm just telling you, like, you can take Ryan Gosling, and Ryan Gosling, it just, with the way our brains work, it registers the people that Ryan Gosling can be both kin and the most brilliant man in the world. You don't think audiences would take Will Smith and be like, Will Smith.

I think Will Smith, you could do Will Smith. Now, would people, this is nothing against Edress Alba, but if you put Idris Alba, are people like, I'm talking about audiences, I wouldn't have a problem. Like, I think what people want to do when they see Will Smith fight aliens is they want to see him shoot at him. Independence Day. So he domed Rocky right when he saw him. Independent's day, men of black.

Crazy, Steve. You all right? Oh, I'm good. Whoa. Don't rocky. Dode Rocky is crazy. Independence Day, like, I robot, they want to see Will get busy with the Glock's and do shit like that. Well, I'm not making, I'm, what I'm saying is that these, I am.

the high science guy figuring shit out doing all of that stuff, we get less of those roles than what I can think off the top of my head. No, because I wasn't even, I'm more so saying that like this specific type of movie, it seems like we're on like basically like a three, four year window where it's like the next movie star who's going to like be up.

And I think Ryan Gosling is that kind of like, he's one of a dying breed. I would not be surprised if like in a, in a decade, Shalemate gets a movie like this or is it like Shalomey lost in space He's lost in space now He's already got one

He flipped flying around in space and stuff like that Well I guess that's not really space No dude because that to me is more the fiction side Of like a Star Wars You mean like this type of grounded Astrophysics type of high But you're always because it's always The Martian

But see that's the thing Space is such a character It We talked about this on the interstellar pod that I did with the House of R with Joe and Mao, space is an otherworldly place that you become more human

when you're in it. Because you consider the finite reality of your existence, what you can do, what you can't do. The only real language is math, right?

Everything is happening in this space. Like you're inside of this thing, like this hole is keeping you alive. So every single heartbeat that you take is dramatic. Every single decision that you make is dramatic. Every conversation you have is dramatic.

It just ratches the drama way up, which is why horror movies get scarier. Dramas get more dramatic. Action movies get more desperate. It's in space. Space is like this, you know, under the water, it's different.

No one can hear you hear different. Yeah, yeah, all of that. All of that. How about this? Think about a movie like Crimson Tide. Have you seen Crimson Tide? Crimson Tide with with uh with uh you guys never saw crimson tie with uh with denzil washington and jean hackman yeah the submovie

yeah the submarine movie okay have you got seen that i have uh hunt for it october it's very difficult crimson tide is all right so so so so so that's a submarine movie crimson tie okay technically a submarine movie okay it's funny crimson tie okay so crimson tie okay so crimson tie part of the the tension from that movie is that they're all like fucking stuck They're in a tin can underneath the ocean together. And it's a fucking nuclear sub and everybody's on top of everyone. It's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like if Denzel's character in that movie could go take a walk on the deck of the fucking battleship,

maybe things will calm the fuck down. But all of that stuff is together and space is kind of just like that. That's why people like those movies. But you get to go up there and be marooned on something and have to show out. Castaway, same thing. Like, it's that takes place on Earth, but it's this part of Earth where nobody is. it's him and Wilson. This movie's essentially kind of that, right?

Is Rocky Wilson? Yeah, except a brilliant, cute Wilson. And he has a family. Do you think the world will accept Rocky? Like, do you think Rocky has the chance to be a breakout character or not? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Thing clear is dead. We're going to see Rocky. Rocky Spinoff? Rocky Toys. Oh, yeah. Rocky Toys, Rocky Plachies. People were already going crazy for Rocky. Rocky was great, man.

For the bookheads, out here, they were like, if they fuck up Rocky, the movie's done. Like, and he really is the soul of the movie. Like, if it didn't work, we'd be having a really rough conversation about whether or not this movie worked. And it's entirely perfectly done

in the movie. And I think Rocky's gonna actually have, like, staying powder. We'll get plushies, for sure. We'll get, uh, we'll get Lego sets. You know, it's all happening for Rocky. Pet Rock? Pet Rock? Pet Rockies. Don't let I almost see this. Let's go back to Lord Miller real quick. So they, you know,

they're like 24-carat gold 1,000% dead-ass, nice creatives. Their last forerative space was solo and it was all kinds of fucked up. Right. Were they the right guys to helm this project for you guys?

I mean, I'm not going to say they were the only guys who can do this, but I think this is the upper echelon of what we could have got I think out of this project. If you would just take, And if you take everything else and it's Drew Goddard's writing it, Ryan Gosling the whole thing, and you put a different creative, you put a Ron Howard in there, you know, Apollo 13.

I don't think it reaches the heights of what Philip Miller are doing here. I think the thing that makes it really special is just the level of fun we're having, despite the fact that like this is, like, to your point, the world, the worlds are ending. These might be the last few people to ever exist ever. Like, this is the most dire of dire situations. And we're like, hi, look, Rocky's dancing. look at their connection.

Like we're not really thinking about the implications like what they're set to do until we go back to the flashback. I think their sensibilities were perfect for this film and they made it what it is. This is the first movie they've directed since 2014. They were locked in.

That's why we can't get the new Spider-Verse movie, man, because they're in the lab. Like this is the first movie that they've done since 22 Jump Street. Now you have Spider-Verse, which is, you know, Phil Lord writing it, the Lego movies,

them writing, across the film, they're entrenched in that project. The writing is there, but that's animated, so they have different animation directors that are in there, they're doing that.

Solo, their uncredited directors, they did some significant part of it, but they were on how it was brought in. But as far as, boom to boom, the entire deal, this is their first movie

in over 10 years. It's weird because, I define a lot of Lorden Miller style and sentiment based on their comedic chops because of the Jump Street movies and even in an indirect way the Spider-verse films because there's a punchiness, there's a lightheartedness and fun that they do so very well that feels essentially them. And I'm not saying that this movie doesn't have it, but it certainly has a lot more of a like seriousness to it. Not to say that it's not funny, not to say that it's not joyous, but like there's an artistic like,

gravitas and deftiness that I have not seen them deploy ever, really, with this movie. Interesting. And it doesn't feel like it's not them, but it really is a different level that I did not know that they were capable of. It's great, but it doesn't exactly feel like necessarily them. And I'm not, and like to Jomi's point, I don't think that they were the only ones, but they certainly were perfect matches for this. Yeah. I feel like their prints were all over. I could just tell in terms of,

there was actually moments where I think they're such comedic writers. And I think they weren't the only directors, but I could tell why you would go to them. Because I think if you have a whiteboard of being like, you guys have already said it, what's the thing you have to get right in this movie or it doesn't work? It's Rocky.

Yes. And I think there's not, like you could probably count on like one hand the level of directors who you're like, they have enough wimsy, they have enough comedic chops, They have enough of a vision where it's like they can take a concept that if you explain it to someone is very corny. But if you lean into that, it can circle all the way back to being heartwarming.

I think that's why you go with them. Absolutely. I think maybe a little bit of my reservations is like, I think I wanted maybe a little less of the comedy. Because it's so, the movie is already funny. But there were moments where I'm like, oh, this feels like Spider-Verse where you're just throwing shit out. You're throwing jokes. one liners, punch lines, this, and that. And it was at a point, I was like,

no, you guys are good. This is already really funny. Like, you've already gilded the bullet. Like, whoop, there it is. That was funny. That was crazy. All right. Anything else?

I mean, I thought the movie was fantastic. Does anybody got any nitpicks? Nipicks. I mean, the movie's long. Too long? I'm good. It's propulsive. It doesn't feel slow at any point.

The movie's a little long. I mean, my, big review for this is I'm just like, when I finished the movie, I was like, oh, I like that movie. Like, it's like, I don't think, I don't know if this movie was transformational for me, but in terms of just like, it's getting warmer in L.A., sitting in a theater, watching something that transports you, being able to laugh, being like, oh, how did they do that? Even just like, we didn't really talk about the design of the movie that much, but just,

Lord and Miller have been very, very clear about, like, wanting to do practical effects, wanting to keep Rocky in with Gosling and all that stuff. I was like, oh, this is a great looking movie. It's a well-designed movie. It's structurally, it's a great movie. For all of my nitpicks and misgivings, I'm just like, I want more blockbusters that feel this assured, and I can walk out being like I had a fun time.

Very true. What about you? I have one little thing, and it's really, and this is, see, this is why you can't read the books, man. So at the end, we have to do Book Corner for you guys who read the book. I mean, we, we, we, we, we, I really, like, as a lover of the books, I really don't have that many complaints, but Jomey, please. My only thing is the Beatles just show up.

Right. They don't explain the Beatles. In the book, there's this fun, and, like, it's really not an epic. But I wish they would have, like, explained the Beatles because that scene in the book, there's a guy name, I think, I want to say his name's Carl Strauss. And he's the only person who can, like, match Rylan Grace's, like, enthusiasm for science. Yeah. But he's also just, like, a talkative SOB. and they just like, it's a really funny, like, a couple pages

where they're going back and forth. And these are the only time, like, Rylan Grace is like, I'm actually annoyed by somebody who knows about science. Because in the rest of the movie and the books, they're all pretty much like Strat and very much, like everybody's like straight-laced scientists, except for Dubois and, you know, Shardy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

But for most part, everybody's straight-laced, and this is the one guy who's like, I named them after the Beatles, and here's a Beatles reference. Here's a Beatles reference. Ryan was like, yo, shut the fuck up. I want to go home. Don't do it, please. Right.

But they just show up and I'm like, oh, yeah, I know that from the book. But ultimately, you got to. When I was watching, I was trying to think of like what, what musical group would I name the little things going back to Earth? Like, would I do like Cuevo off-s? I was like Migos, man, Migos. Would I do some Rizza, Jizzah, old dirty bastard? I mean, if you had 20 capsules to do back then, you would have to use the whole Wooten clan. I'm trying to think now.

It probably probably be sports for me, man. Sports? Wait, who would... I would probably be like, it would probably be like Kobe, Brom, MJ. Shack. You're going to send the brown one? I'm going to send a brown one, yeah.

All right. I'm going to say it. Why not? Why not? What's wrong with that? It's only going to get there four out of nine times. Oh, my God. Right.

Oh, God. Nice. Geez. All right, well, actually, this is it? Because I was watching The Marsha before I got here. My last question, I love. I love this sci-fi movie.

would they be eating in space food. That shit. Like the goop in the... Goop where fucking bad Davis is eating in a fucking potato. I'm always just like, if I'm going up into space, I would have some thoughts on what we get. Because I'm like... You can't.

You can't do much up there, right? Because weight, right? You get you conserve fuel. It can be heavy. Right? And so then the things you would need to prepare food up there are pretty slim. You probably get like a little microwave to microwave

of your little pouch and that's that's really you get water. You know, you got to conserve that as well. So there's not a lot of pliquing. What type of cuisines? Can we get puff,

can we get Joloff rights? Well, we're going to get Italian food because that's the only food that's ever been good. Yes. That's the one that we send out. It's literally going to be the

You put on the gold record to send in the packs. You know the packets of food that they'd be given an olive garden where they'd be like in the back like, yeah, it's homemade, but we just got it out of the plastic.

Exactly. Hey, when you hear your family, we hear your family. That's what you get. World Presum websites ever. Not most random websites I've never even heard of. Conday Nash Traveler. I don't know if you've never heard of them before, but Condé Nas is a conglomerate that has a lot of different magazines.

I mean, the racist? You know what? I'm not even good at. I said it. I said it. I said it. The racism? You were like, you're in the Kandeh.

Let's he be like, yeah, Jomey. I'm like, yeah, it's Kandah Nas. I'm like, yeah, it's Kandai Nas. The Midnight Boys were shocked that Italian food. was ranked amongst one of the world's top of five. This is revisionist. This is nasty. This is kept.

Because Alea and us, we were just like, you were shocked that we were just like, Italian cuisine not in our top. No, no, that's not what happened. What happened was I went back

because I didn't say anything about Italian cuisine. I went because I said I didn't like Filipino food. Out of nowhere, by the way, unprompted. That's not what happened at all. Are you guys? guys fucking insane? How are we back here?

Are you? Have you guys actually gone crazy? That's not what happened. I said that I went to an AAPI party. Right? For Lunar New Year? I went to a Lunar New Year deal. Yeah. And I was talking about the fact that I was with

some Filipino people and I was asked about the Filipino food, not unprompted at all. That happened legitimately an hour and a half two hours ago and you just totally fucked it. Like I was asked and I said I didn't like it that much. You said you didn't like what specifically?

I said I didn't like it. The chicken adobe you liked. Yeah. I said I did not like it. That is what happened. Chicken adobe is... No, chicken adobe I liked. I was about to say. But you didn't like the loophia. Yeah, so I said I didn't like the texture of Indian food. And so then we have this whole conversation

about world cuisines and stuff like that. Because everybody goes, you know, like Filipino food. You don't like this. You don't like all like all of this stuff. First of all, I am from Louisiana. I am not as adventurous with other cuisines of the world as other people might be. I think that's really what it is. Yeah. That's what I said. But I will say

you, obviously, you're talking to me. You can dislike whatever, but sometimes you're just like walking, because this happens a lot, you're just like, no cuisine. I don't like. And I'm like, damn, we got Indian people here. We got Greek people here. I think it's, for me, for me, it's the Japanese cuisine's a one-trick pony. That is crazy.

That was insane. I'm not a ramen guy. Okay. I'm not a ramen guy. But you can be anything else. Okay. Both things can be true. I said, when I'm thinking about Japanese cuisine, I'm thinking about sushi.

That's the whole thing. And it's so much. They do of that. That's a little reductive, though. That's extremely reductive. But it doesn't matter because I'm. What would you do if like a Japanese person? When I think of black American cuisine, I think of fried chicken.

I would say to them, first of all, I would say to them, go with God. Really? You're not saying none. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is really interesting. Okay, first of all, I don't owe it to any other culture to try their food. Number one, is that, can we agree on that? Okay, yes.

Sure. Can we agree on that? Yes. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So can we agree on the second point that I only have to eat what I like? Yes. Can we agree on the third point that it's okay for me to not like something?

Yes. But can we also agree on saying about a entire people's cuisine, they some one-trick ponies. He's crazy. You said the same thing about Nigeria. That's a little... To me. To me.

To me. To me is a one-trick pony. It's sushi. Man, man. Of course it's his opinion because he's saying it. To me. To me. To me.

And by the way, this is... You don't think it's a little close-minded? No, it could be. But like, once again, though, it's like, this is... The interesting thing about this to me is like, okay, so you guys, you guys, you guys try all of these different foods. Remember, Chicago, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York,

New Jersey, Tri-State area, also, like Los Angeles by way of Nigeria. I'm from a place with world-renowned cuisine. Yes. So my adventurousness, a lot of times from food, is in my deal. I like the way, like, get me to try some other shit, I'm into it.

Like, my man, when I first got out to L.A., my man Tommy Talley, was like, let's go to this place. They got this, they got pat-tie. Pat-tie, like the fucking entry-level fucking Thai food. I was like, I don't want to eat that. I only need a goddamn pat-tie.

Okay. Still, are you still like that? Not really. But like when I go out to eat, like I don't go out to try different cuisines from around the world. Maybe, but you've also been around the world. I've traveled, yeah. You traveled more than I have.

And I get to a place and eat food. And by the way, places that I've been, I've liked the food. We talked about food that I do like. I love Greek food. I love Peruvian food We've talked about foods that do like But we're just saying calling cozines

One Trek ponies a little like No, but we're having a conversation You guys said to me, I didn't bring up Japanese food like I said We did because we were like it's crazy that you're reading all these lists The Japanese food was nowhere near the top five On a bunch of these lists

This is what happened So we can go back That's what happened I looked at the list to see if Filipino food would be up there Because you guys all acted like We ride for Filipino food Shout out with Philadelphia. The Filipino food is so good.

It's so good. Shout out to Jolabi. So I looked up to see if Filipino food was on there. By the way, Mahjong, Filipino culture, I love all of it. Yeah. Okay. Whatever it is. Leaving that alone.

Leaving that long. I'm leaving that alone. The game was fun. Leaving that along. We was out there hooping, doing a whole nine. Shout out to them. Yeah. So I go in there to look to see if Filipino was up.

Filipino food was up there. You guys were like, no. Like I told you guys I was like it's not up there Then I said I started reading the list This is where we really Diversed I started reading the list Of cuisines of the world That are the top

Yeah I said Italian and you guys went Oh my God As if Italian food Italian cuisine is not famous and world renown Like you guys all y'all went Oh how could Italian be up there over Filipino What are we talking about? That's not what happened.

That is definitely not. Okay, tell me how is it. Because I said that, then you guys went, when I said Italian, the response was. How I remembered it is we were basically like, yeah, Italian is a little overrated. I would understand. I would understand why Italian food would be high on the list. I just think in terms of the cuisines that I have tasted, I'm like, Italian can be a little overrated. Okay, that's fine.

I get that, right? You're saying Italian food is overrated. I remember exactly what I said. I remember exactly what I said. Because I said I have had a lot of Italian food and most of it. Like I've had more bad Italian food than I've had good Italian food. And you were like because everyone loves type. No, my response was the reason why you've had so much bad Italian food is because Italian cuisine is so beloved worldwide that everybody is making it.

You can get the elevated version of it. You can get the fast version of it. You can get the dime store version of it. So you've had so much Italian food because everybody loves Italian food. The fact that you've had so much of it and you've had so much bad Italian food is actually proof that the cuisine has penetrated world culture. But if you don't like it, that's on you. I'm not like I don't like. I just think it's overrated.

If I was listening to the greatest cuisines, I'd be like this little. Now look. Now here's a deal. Ooh. Oh. But I didn't call Italian one trick pokey. You said they food is overrated. It's legitimately the same fucking thing.

It's not the same thing. It is not. It's not the same thing. It's not the same fucking. Whatever I think of what I think about pizza. He said that he's had bad Italian food. No, no, no. And he's had more bad Italian food than good Italian food.

You said they only got one shot. Guys. Actually, I want to know what I actually, if I could be specific. When I went to Italy, I was like, oh, this Italian food, I don't necessarily like. that much Italian-American food. Look, great. This is the deal. Me saying one trick pony and you saying overrated, it's the same thing.

Now, if you guys might assume, you guys might take it differently. What I'm essentially saying is there's one Japanese dish that I like, okay? And what you're saying is you had a lot of, uh, uh, or that I think, you've had a lot of Italian food. And I prefer other cuisines. And you think, not that just you prefer, prefer other cuisines. that you think the food is overrated.

Now, the difference is me. If I would have said that the food is overrated, y'all would have been like ugh. Because you would have said Japanese food is overrated. You're taking into account of all of the Japanese food. Hey, let's go get the Korean barbecue. Fuck, Korean barbecue.

I'm not trying to eat that. I'm not trying to eat that. I feel like you would actually love Korean to barbecue. I'm sure he's out. I've had it. I've had it. I've had it. I'm not trying to eat that. I'm not trying to eat that.

Is that okay? Why do you hate flavor? Why do you hate flavor? I'm from Louisiana. You guys are nuts. You know what else? You know what's another thing about this? All of this is like probably,

because y'all, because like, y'all ain't ever had. Like, y'all, okay, I won't go to this. I'm from Louisiana. I was born of flavor. Everything has flavor. From flavor town.

Like, I'm from flavor. You and got a free area like this. I'm from Louisiana. Like, I don't, like, yeah. Like, you go to different places. I don't want to displace it. But you go to, wait, we're about to get Chicago?

No, no, you go to different places and you ask people what you have to eat. And they say you have to have this fucking hot dog. That's not what you have to eat when you come to Louisiana. You don't have to eat the hot dog or the fried chicken. You have to eat something and somebody cooked down over two hours. And it has all of these different ingredients. And it has all of these different influences. No matter what it is.

If it's et tufei, if it's jumbalaya, if it's gumbo, whatever the fuck it is. It's fucking witchcraft that's in the food. So like, yeah, I maybe am just cool with that. Maybe that's the thing. Maybe we just need to get a witch to put a hex on every dish you make. Whatever. But all I'm saying is this.

It's not a dis. I mean saying I don't like it. It's not a dis. To say that somebody's food is overrated, it is also a dis. Yeah. To say that somebody's food is overrated, it is also a this. I don't understand. They're both.

This is, but one I can understand, like one I could, I could take. If you said, if you, if it would be like, if you call Steph Curry, he only shoot three-pointers. And then if I say Steph is over, okay, how about this? Let's try this. If you say Steph is overrated, I'm a little different than, I'm on three-poena. All that's a step can do is three-thes. That is a one-trick pony. No.

If I say that, if I, that, if I go on here right now and I say Steph is overrated, the Steph muse page, right, they're going to go nuts. LeBron is overrated. That's a dis. That's a big time disses. I'm not saying it's not disses. But one, you can kind of have a conversation about what's overrated. Shout out to Japan. And they say this people has one thing in the old time.

There's only one thing to do. That's worth of my time. It's crazy. It's crazy about it too. Even if you like, all right, I don't like, like, like, sushi. Like, ramen is a big deal. People. I don't like it.

I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. Ramen, soa, onagiri. All of that stuff. Fantastic. When I hear people talking about going to eat Japanese food is ramen and it's sushi. But it's more than that.

I understand that it's more than that. Like, I get that it's more than that. It's ramen and it's sushi. I haven't experienced. When you say Japanese food to me, I'm really thinking about sushi. I haven't, we've talked about- Karaga, you've never had Karate. I don't know what that is.

It's fried chicken. It's Japanese-fero. But see, but here's another thing. I have thoughts about that. Well, yeah. So, so, so, so. Okay, so in 1945. No, it's not, not 1945.

It's like, to me, somebody else's take on your food. Right. Is not their food. What do you, wait, what do you mean? Mm. Okay, no, it's like, we're talking about techniques, though. No, no, somebody else is. Let's break it down.

So, okay, to me, so if everybody has a take on a cuisine, right? Right. You can have a take on the cuisine. Yeah. You can't make pizza that's not Italian. It's Italian food. You can't, you, you can't make pizza that's not Italian. Pizza is a dish.

And I would say, chicken is a dish. Yes, but frying food to me is a method where so many cultures have their own methods for how they fry food. That's true. What I am saying is frying chicken in the way that it, that it's being exported around the world. is taking an American cuisine,

a Southern American cuisine, fried chicken, and then doing it their way. That's fine. That, to me, doesn't make it their cuisine. It is a cuisine done in their style. If you're rapping, you're doing black music. You could rap, like you could rap in, BTS could rap, they could rap in South Korea,

they could rap wherever they rap. If you rap, you're doing black music. You're doing black music in your culture's world. way. I say this about black people. But there's 10,000 ways to fry a chicken, and all of them are not based on Black American cuisine. What we're talking about, I don't know

I haven't ever heard what you're talking about, but when I taste like, because I've eaten fried chicken from all over the place, I actually think some of the fried chicken that's coming from over there is better. South Korea's got that. But, like, South Korea is doing really good fried chicken, but they frying chicken. The math is always that black people

from whatever war, whether it's World War II or the the Korean War, went to Korea, went to Japan, taught them how to fried chicken. They fried chicken? Now they fried chicken. Just like, we go places, we come back and people break dancing, and they're doing all of that stuff. Blacks and Latinos in New York invented that. And it's like, it goes

somewhere else, and then it becomes the thing. But that don't... I just think food is more complex. Like, every culture has a dumpling. I mean, yeah. It's like, whether you call it a ravioli, whether you call it a yosa, like, it's a... Like, it's a conversation. I think it's important to acknowledge that.

It's important to acknowledge that. It's important to acknowledge what? Where fried chicken, like, where that came from? If you tell me that you need to taste like, if we're talking about Japanese cuisine, I like this too. Leave this in the podcast. If you talk about Japanese cuisine and you're telling me that I need to like try like Japanese fried chicken, I'm going to be like, I, cool, but their version of fried chicken is not going

to be the thing. that's going to make me go, like, that's distinctly Japanese. That's so, unless there's a different story, guys, that's so American culturally influenced, that I'm going to be like, I like the fried chicken that they make in Memphis. I think we're just arguing that it's like, like, everything is an influence. Everything is a remix of a thing. There is no one thing without. I know you feel that way.

That's your whole culture based around that. But I don't. Like, I think, I think that that is true to a degree, but I think that there's cultural ingenuity that, that is proprietary. I think that there are some things that are culturally proprietary. I don't mind nobody doing, I like it. I like everybody rapping. Everybody rap, everybody dance.

I like when you do it. I like to see it. I like the Jabberwalkies. Okay. So, so. Jabberwockes? Hey, in the podcast. What?

All right, man. I'm not one of those people. You said, I don't like the Jabba Walkers. What did they do? I'm not one of those people that look at people and go, they should be doing our dances. Because if that's the case, then it's so funny. I had this conversation one time in Atlanta.

Jesus. The dude that was telling me about how everybody was stealing swag, stealing the swag of black people. And I was like, what does your shirt say? And he was like, Gucci. I was like, like a super old Italian brand your clothes are Gucci

you fucking got through me he's just a whole nine but the way I wear it is I'm like it's the same argument right you know I'm saying it's like all of this culture like you want the you want the the fatigue Philippe

there's one place in Switzerland where it's a dude sitting down like everybody's like making those watches that type of watch craftsmanship comes from that place we all share it all it is but it does have an owner that's like it somebody owns it somebody came up with it somebody somebody made it up there

different influences and stuff like that but that's your culture and and that's the deal but back to the food people like Italian food worldwide yeah right and Italian food worldwide is if y'all act like people don't like Italian food or like it's crazy that Italian food is the top five I understand that I understand that apparently so the apparently Karage is a Japanese style fried chicken with roots in 16th century Portuguese techniques and 1920s Chinese cuisine. There you go. So are we saying that now... Frying technique. Is it from the Portuguese?

There you go. Whatever. Like, when I'm telling you, that's... Even that being what it is, I actually don't associate that with Japanese food. I associate fried chicken with South, the culture here in the South. So it only belongs to... to them, nobody else can have it.

I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that if you tell me that I need to taste another culture's fried chicken, I am not going to be super crazy about it. I like it, but that's Americanized to me. Something that's not Americanized to me is like sushi. Something that's not Americanized to me or stuff that comes from the place

and they have special technique and all that and stuff like that, that's Americanized. You know, we should do. But Karaki, that is his technique. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. Do it. All this infighting. We're supposed to be brothers.

Supposed to love each other. What? Okay. How about this? The one food we can all agree upon. Delicious. Tasty. Fire.

Chinese food. Chinese food is great. Let's go. And by the way, all go together. The world can agree. Right. Let's wrap this.

Because you know what? Chinese, not a one-trick pony. Chinese got... Chinese got different types of noodles. Chinese got different types of chicken. Chinese got beef of broccoli. Say Japan doesn't have different type of noodles. like Chinese got

noodles that I like. How about that? Chinese got... That's what you should say. That's what you should say. That's what you should say. And is all different types of chicken? Is Chinese food not more versatile than Japanese food?

No. I can't say that. No, you can't. I can't. I'm cool. Chinese food not more versatile? No, man. I don't know. You don't even get the real Chinese food in America. Well, it depends

on where you go. Depends on where you go. San Gabriel Valley. I go down there. Okay. You can go to China Town and find some good stuff. Like it might be a little American odds, but they got some stuff.

Yeah. They got some stuff. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, all right. Let's wrap this out. Let's wrap this up. I apologize.

Program reminders, come on. We got to do the midnight meter. We have a midnight meter? Nah, you guys want to bring myself. This is what happens when we can't hear a land no more. You guys. You guys. You guys.

You guys. You guys. wanted to bring this up and ridicule me over my personal taste and you forgot about your job and podcast. All right. Midnight meter, y'all know what it is, one to 12. One worst, 11 and 12 are reserved for true game changers. Start with the Mimp Boys, show me.

I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it a 10. I'm going to give it the strongest 10 I can give. I think it's a transformative experience to watch it in IMAX on the big screen. I had an absolute blast. I loved every second. I was in the theater. I cannot recommend this movie enough.

Loved it. It's a 10. Easy as 10 of my life. Fantastic experience. Even if you don't know the books, you're guaranteed to have an amazing time. This is something that's truly special. So the reason why Chinese food is versatile,

more versatile than Japanese food, and this is non-controversial, there's a reason behind this. What is it? Right. Before I even answer the question, I want you guys to think about it. Just think about it.

Okay. Think about what would be the reason? Do you actually want me what I think the reason is? What would be the reason that one food is more version? China covers way, is way bigger. And then within Chinese queen, like most cuisines, but within Chinese cuisines there are so like Sichuan and this and that

or whatever. We don't have to, that's the, see, that's easy. That's easy. So when I say that it's more versatile and there's more shit, it's just, there's a reason. It's a fucking billion people there. Like China's immense geographical, ethnic and cultural diversity, vast array of regional styles and all. That's it.

It doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be a dis. It doesn't have to be a dis, it doesn't have to be a dis, okay? It doesn't have to be a dis. It's more people, more regions, different ways, all kinds of stuff. All Shaq did was dunk. You know what I mean? Nah, that's actually not true. He was actually, see, you don't know ball.

That's the, that's the point. That's the point. That's the point. You don't know ball. You don't know ball. But once again, though, one trick pony for me. What is your meat night eater? You said, I don't like one.

My God. It's an 11. Wonderful. Eleven is great. It's an 11. 11 is great. Chinese dishes often aim to balance five flavors. All right, we're giving it a strong eight.

Let's wrap this episode. Chinese dishes often aim to balance five flavors, whereas Japanese dishes often aim to enhance the natural pure flavors. They're not putting no season on this shit. Shout to Japan. Now, you can't say that after every, you should say it about Japan. Apologize to Japan.

Shout to the Philippines. Shout out to everyone. Yeah, apologize to Indians. Apologize to Indians? I can't fuck with child on food like that. Shout out to Arjuna, though. I don't like that. I don't really like to.

I fuck with Arjuna. Is it okay if I don't like Indian? You know what? Fuck y'all, man. I'm like, I fuck with Arjuna. I don't know this I fuck with the laia These my people Oh my god

I say the laia I say the laia Bigram These are my people man I hope they're screaming in the booth right now Listing every Indian person that works I'm fucking these are my people I don't know what the hell to tell you

You like the fuck they With that I didn't say that bro Like bro I've had like I didn't say that I just said I don't like the Indian food Oh my brother This is we're going to reaverse feet on Monday

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was a one-trick pony. Did I not? You did, and that was rude, but we're going to fix him. Don't worry about it, man. We're going to get him right. All right. Chuck, take us out.

Please be nice to me. Damn, I really don't have one, bro. I'm still fucking heated over this computer. Hey, hey, let it flow. Let it fly. Let it. Bring Alea in here. No.

A lay is not going to. Start coming here, man. Don't do that. You don't do that. You don't just look for any. Y'all just look for any reason to like, this is, this, y'all will look any for any reason to get at me. Shout out to Japan.

You don't want to shout out Shohey. Yamamoto said you just want to shout out of the Jambu. Hey, you know what's funny? You know what's funny is we didn't talk about that. Like, I fuck with Japan baseball type of situation. Like, I fuck with Shohey. Like last night I threw seven shutout innings on the game, Shoah. Shout out, I fuck with Japan.

Yeah, man, I fuck with it. Like, come on, man. Y'all trying to. Shout out Japan. There you go. All my Italians and Tonys. Yeah. And to all the cuisines of the world, you are not one-trick ponies.

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