The Ringer-Verse - 'Secret Invasion' Episode 3 Instant Reactions, and the Midnight Magna Carta | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

There is trouble in paradise for Nick Fury. The Midnight Boys are back to sink their teeth into Episode 3 of 'Secret Invasion' and break down the twists and turns of Fury and the Skrulls (06:17). Later, the boys give their recommendations for their official rules of fandom engagement, titled "The Midnight Magna Carta" (46:38). Hosts: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Steve Ahlman, and Jomi Adeniran Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You got questions. He's got Anz Ice. Steve, the architect Alman, Tinker and Building of Things. Oman Van. He of the receding, resurgent, rejuvenated hairline. And Coke baby Chuck,

the 24-carat clothes. And together, we are known as a midnight. Night boys. I'm pew-poo! Boo! Um, look, follow some socials.

Okay, that's what you gotta do. It's Insta. It's Twitter. It's Facebook. It's TikTok. Is it spill? Is it blue sky? No.

Is it Nastodon? Is it any of those? Is it anything? We haven't had the big conversation yet, but I assume we're going to go down with the ship on that website. Oh, I'm going down. the ship. Once I'm once it's gone, I'm not going anywhere else.

Fuck out of you. It feels, it feels silly every time where they're like, all right, let's join like three new things and then act like we're not going to come back here in two weeks. I mean, you got to keep it in your back pocket because you never know. But as far as I know, yeah, ring averse Twitter go down. Ring averse on Twitter go down. We still got the Facebook group. You know, you also got the Reddit. And of course, we got the Instagram and the TikTok. So we still like that. They got the Reddit for a couple more weeks because that CEO, Wilden over. there as well.

Jesus Christ. What's happening on the Reddit? I didn't see it. Long story short, they're trying to blame bots and they're trying to take free stuff and make people pay extreme amounts of money for stuff that was free just recently. Kind of like Twitter. And it's really bad. And yeah, it's all garbage.

I don't think that I care. Okay. So, look, programming reminding. On Monday. Min Edition covers the new season of Netflix's The Witcher. The Witcher is coming to Min Edition. I've never seen an episode of The Witcher. I try to watch it one time.

Oh, it already happened? It's already happened. It came and went. Came on Sunday. Came on Sunday. Yeah. It came on Sunday, huh? Jomey had a good Sunday, did you?

Yeah. No, it was a Monday part. Sorry. Monday part. It came on Monday. Yo. I'm working on my van, took a two, far sound effect.

Jomey came on Monday and said, whoa, it's a two-for, five-inch warrior. Now look, so you guys go study up on the Witcher. I've never really watched The Witcher before. Is The Witcher a good show? Jummy and Steve. It's a question for Steve to answer.

It's a fine show. It's a fine show. You don't like it. That's how you know they ain't rocking with it because Jomey and Steve rocked with everything. It's, I'll just say, I had to watch it with Intuitive. weeks. I watch two and a half seasons within two weeks. And it is, it is more dense than probably like an MRI bar. It's a lot of show.

It's a lot of show. A lot of show. You like it. Friday, Joanna and Mal are back. And they're going to be doing secret invasion deep dives. Deep diving into secret invasion. They're putting on the scuba gear. They're getting their oxygen tanks.

And they're driving right to the bottom of the MCU CECU. and they're bringing Nick Fury along with them. So you guys aren't going to want to miss that. On today's show, we're going to be breaking down Secret Invasion Episode 3 and inducting our first set of laws into the Midnight Magna Carta. We are constructing the central document

of the midnight boys fandom experience. We have some similarities with the framers of the Constitution. Okay? Particularly Steve has some similarities

with them. Right, right, right. There you go. I know Steve was gone crazy yesterday. July 4th, his favorite holiday. So Steve is like, this is, this celebrates our victory. our victory we won. And so Steve is somewhere,

go get me a mint julep, Negro. Honestly, Steve, I say this with love, but you do got the face of somebody who would be thrown like tea overboard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a tough look for somebody like me. Yeah. Like, I know you was at the Boston Tea Party.

Going crazy. Man, Steve wasn't at the Boston Tea Party, man. Steve was somewhere. No. Like, Steve wouldn't have to I look at the Boston team artist. Like, not my fight, not my fight. Yeah, he was like hawking the do good letters.

Like, hey, man, these guys spitting. Now, me personally, I'm not going to do nothing about it. But, hey, man, freedom. Hey, what's going on? Yeah, I'll bang the drum. Steve wasn't there for that, man. Steve was somewhere talking about different fables and things on the, like, the countryside.

eyes. Like, you have discussions. All right. We gotta go. All right. Spoiler warning for Secret Invasion, Steve,

give it to me. We're getting ready to talk about secret invasion. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming.

We have to put you guys into the need to know. Make sure that everything about this episode is inside your brains. There's only one way to do that. That is, of course, It's the Midnight Manifest, the guy giving you that manifest is Chuck Wack and Chuck take it away.

All right, and this is your Midnight Manifest for Secret Invasion, Episode 3, betrayed, directed by Ali Saline, teleplayed by Roxanne Parodies and Brian Tucker. In 1998, you see Fury meeting with the scroll operative and falling in love with his soon-to-be-wife. In the present, Priscilla is pretty angry with Fury, though, saying she had to grieve him twice. The first time is after the blip, and the second was when he abandoned Earth to sit in a space station, being depressed all alone. Fear seems suspicious of his wife and whether in his absence she's become sympathetic to the rebel scroll cause. Meanwhile, Gravick reveals his Super Scroll plans to the council and informs them that he's sending operatives to take over a Royal Navy submarine and attack a UN plane causing World War III. Gravick begins to have doubts about Gaia but brings her along in a parley he has with her father, Taylors. After a he-a-parlay meeting slash dick measuring contest, Taylor's learns that the scroll's planned attack from Gaia and teams were fury to stop it.

Although Fury and Taylor are successful in stopping the attack, it's revealed. that this was a setup to root out Gaia as the mole all along. Gravick murders Gaia, known she's the one that tipped off Puri and Talos. And the episode ends with Piri's wife getting a gun out of a safety deposit box and getting into contact with Gravick. That has been your midnight manifest for Secret Invasion episode three. Instant reactions.

Episode three. Charles, did this episode continue the momentum from last week? Did you enjoy what you saw on the screen? it did not lose momentum, but it did not gain momentum. It was just like, okay, this is the groove of the show. I think episode three, I'm just finally at the level of like, this is what secret invasion is going to be. I think I think of it kind of like,

if somebody gives you like a foot long sub and I eat six inches of it, the meat, the potato, the meat, the cheese, the lettuce, the fucking dressing is what it is. You could combine it any other way. The second half of the sandwich is going to taste exactly the same. Like, I'm just stuck with it. The Secret Invasion sandwich, I'm just stuck eating it. And I'm not going to complain and I'm not going to bitch. I'm just going to like be happy with my Secret Invasion hokey.

nigga, you find the most creative ways to hate. What the fuck are you talking about? Like, what the fuck? You just made a sandwich out of this show. I'm trying to be as nice as I can. And it's hard, bro. I'm trying. I'm like, dude, I can't.

It's like trying to dribble with your left. I don't know how to do it. Bro, I'm trying to be nice. I thought episode three was a good episode of TV. I thought it was good episode of TV. good. You didn't like it? I mean, forget about the Secret Invasion sandwich that you just made. I thought that there was some good stuff in this episode. Am I tripping? No? The corny meter, if you were like last episode was like got kind of corny, I'm sorry, bro.

I do not need one more character telling me how long fucking Nick Fury was in space. Like every single conversation we have is just like, you left us here alone, Fury. How could you. And I'm like, dog, we get it already. This is episode three. I think we understand how blimpy so gogy man, Charles feels. That's a new nickname for Charles. Wait, whoa.

How do you guys keep attacking me every week? I feel like I've been very muted. I'm not going scorched earth. I'm not talking about significant invasion like it's the flash. I'm fucking with you. Jomi, Steve, men, boys. How did you guys feel about episode three? I really, I really liked it. I thought

What are the best parts of the episode to me? And there's something we talked about before we started recording was like that end scene with Talos and Fury. And Talos is telling Fury like, you know, I didn't join Gravick because I'm with you. I was like, man, that's love right there, bro. Like if that was a romantic comedy, man, that would be the scene at the end where you're like, I'm not with Lauren because I'm with you.

And they would fall in love and they would go off and have Millie's adventures. Like that meant something to me, man. But I think the show really excels when you put two characters together who have like some beef and they just let them go at each other. So last week it was Fury and Rode. This week it was Gravick and Talos. And that scene at the museum was really well done. Like you can, you understand that Gravick kind of has the upper hand.

But Talos is still like, hey man, like he stabs him in the hand, like, got him by the throat and he's like, do not mess with my daughter, not talk about my daughter ever again. That was real. So this show keeps giving me stuff that I'm really enjoying. So yeah, I'm rocking with it. I'm surprisingly warm on it, the more and more I see it. It's a slow, it's a slow cooker. Like, it's a slow incline into my enjoyment. But I'm finding more and more things that I like. All of the museum, interactions were great. I think Gravick is going to be even more compelling as a villain going forward. I really, really liked the sort of like paranoia that Gravick is going through to like sort of find his

traitor, find the rat that's been like feeding him information. We're in a good spot right now, I think. There have been like a little bit of like plot heavy, you know, rigamarole stuff that I wasn't exactly down for a la like, you know,

know, bombing a UN submarine for the sake of starting World War III. But, like, you know, we're moving along. I'm liking it. So here's the thing. Kingsley Ben Adir is, like, carrying the show, which I didn't, I didn't expect. He really is. The scene between him and Talos was, like, fantastic.

And that is the central DNA of the show at its best. The show at its best is that type of high-stakes interaction between characters that have this motivated animus that arise from their backstory. I think that's what they're trying to do. That's what they're attempting to do.

I personally think this about Secret Invasion. I think Secret Invasion is a good show. I think Secret Invasion, when the show is at its worst, it's because, and I might have hinted to this before, is that the tension that it's trying to draw on from the history of the MCU hasn't really quite been there. There hasn't really been enough there

to get into this show with the type of energy that it wants. That's why we're flashing, back so much because the show is attempting to set up a lot of dynamics that, you know, we haven't really had before, which in the MCU, that's always something that's tough to do. Like, a lot of the stuff that this show has been able to do, that the MCU's been able to do well, it's used things that have been set up in the past and giving them a new spin, like even in Winter Soldier, right? you know, Winter Soldier is a true sequel insofar as

Bucky ends up being your villain and we know the relationship between Steve and Buck. We saw it, we saw what they meant to one another, we saw what they, how Steve was his junior and how that changed in Captain America and what it meant for Steve to lose, the only guy who really knew him.

So when that changes around, all the spy stuff and all that is heightened because of the relationship between those two people. That really doesn't exist in any form or fashion in this show and ever. They have to create it every single episode. And so when it falls flat, it's because that's not there.

But in this one, I, just the performance from Kingsley Benadir and just the stakes, they seemed a little bit more palpable. Honestly, the Fury stuff as crazy as this sounds, it's still, I'm still trying to get on the bicycle

with Fury's old and Fury was gone to Charles's point. That stuff I'm still trying to ride the bike on. But the scroll stuff and the divisions within them, that stuff is really working for me. Like, I'm enjoying Secret Invasion.

I don't think it's reinventing the wheel. And it's not like the, it's not Mission Impossible One or any of the other. the top spy is not a clear and present danger, but I'm liking the show. Charles is laughing. Charles, God damn it.

I didn't say anything. I can't laugh. I mean, to your point, then, I was thinking about this in terms of like the bigger MCU Disney Plus project. And I think one of the things that I noticed about Secret Invasion

is I'm like, the things that they talk about happening in the past are way more interesting than the things happening in the present. And it made me wonder, is this show hampered by being six episodes? And what I mean by that is I'm like, a show about Nick Fury ascending the ranks of Shield by using a covert scroll task force is super interesting.

Grovic being in that and being disillusioned is super interesting. Him falling in love with a scroll that technically works for him and what does that mean? that to me are all interesting things. But to your point with what you were saying earlier, because it's trying to add history to the MCU that wasn't there, sometimes the tension is a little bit mixed results.

So do you think that Secret Invasion or a lot of these Disney Plus shows could have been better if they experimented with the format where they're not either all six or nine episodes? Some of them might need to be two seasons. Some of them might need to be long. runs if they want to flesh out these world and like build a bunch of this chemistry on the

fly well i i certainly think that if we're going to have a show that is going to uh expect us to um give reverence to and dive into relationships that we've never had on screen before never seen on screen before then it would behoove them to have these shows go a little bit longer to to be more in-depth and a little bit deeper of a ride. Because it's like, you know, the scrolls have had, they've been cameo characters. So it's not hard for me to believe that there's some sort of civil war going on between the scrolls. The civil war going on between everyone. It's fucking civil war in the Midnight Boys like last week in the meetings.

You know what I mean? So like, it's not hard for me to believe that there's a civil war going on, but it's almost as if they say, hey, this is what's happening. Now, I want this scene to mean something to you because that's the dynamic. And that's not normally the way that works when it's working at its best. However, despite that, I do feel like if we don't judge this show, if we judge this show for what it is, I think you can have a lot of. fun with it. And I also think that if Marvel was cooking better, if the overall health of the

MCU were better, then this show might be received better from by some. I really do think that. I think that we're probably judging it a little bit too harshly because the landscape has been a little dower. But if everything else were kind of, we're cool, if this came out right after Wanda Vision, I think people would feel differently about it. I really do. Because, like, Colliga loves it. Like, she really likes it. She really likes to watch it. She's not as invested in the, it's the end of Marvel.

I hate them. Kick them in the kneecaps. So she just watches the show. And she's like, last night, we got back late. And she's like, ooh, there's a new secret invasion. Let's watch it. I'm like, you really on this shit, huh? We watched it and we enjoyed it.

So, you know, I get that it's not perfect, that it's a half-eating hoagie. The fuck you were talking about, nigga. but but but I'm sorry I don't like nasty sandwiches man what do you want for me what what's your hold on before we just move what's your favorite type of hoagie what do you like oh man I'm a real like I like I like prosciutto I like some artadello you know what I'm saying get me some other lettuce the tomato salt pepper oil vinegar

you know get me a nice nice expensive type of mustard we're going honestly I'm a fan of the Italian meats. Not a salami guy, but if you could get me a more, what is God? I don't want, Joe me, you better not say anything.

That's not even it. You have a crazy gladiator. That's not even it. I don't want to hear shit from you. That's not what happened at all. That's not what happened at all, Charles. We're not, we're not being toxic.

This isn't, it is what it is, but Jesus Christ, Chuck. Wow. What? I can't love Italian meats? If we were those guys. Yes.

If we were the, we're not those guys. We're not. Joe, we are absolutely one of those guys, we're involved. We're involved. We're involved. But if we wore those guys to play those type of slightly problematic games,

that could have been, you know. Slightly problematic games. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, if we were those guys, that would have been a situation. That's all I'm saying. Just one might say a.O. But whatever.

All right fucking Cam and Mace. Jeez. All right. We had a lot of people reaching out, telling us that we missed the fact that Nick Fury's squirrel wife was in the first scene of the last episode. Jomey said that on the last episode.

I just don't know what y'all be on. Jomey the explainer is the explainer. I just don't know why. Y'all just like to, y'all, I feel like sometimes people's toes, they just miss the nuts of the midnight. They like to feel the nuts of the mini-upers. So they just like to kick us in our nuts.

They just like to kick us. Jomi said that. But whatever. Whoa, how are we going from the Italian meat lover to talk about our grazed nuts? Can we get back on track? See, now you just gave yourself the Italian meat lover nickname. It's right.

Oh, my God. You could have let that slide. There it is. You see Van writing down in the notes. You see what you've done down. Whoa. I stand by. Italian meat.

There you go. We're going to have Sebastian Manacusco on the podcast. What was his name? Minnescalco. Manuscalco? Okay, we're going to have him on the podcast and Charles going to go crazy. But yes, we got more about Fury and his relationship. We get a little bit deeper introduction to him and his squirrel wife, Priscilla.

Was this a payoff of... any of the intrigue that the last episode left us off with Charles, what did you think about this relationship? There seemed to be some problems in paradise here. I think this is, it's such a fascinating idea where I'm just like, I know it started off as me being a joke, be like, yo, Fury's fucking scrolls. But I do think it's one of those things where it's such an interesting twist, but the reality of it was a little bit like, oh, okay. I did have questions about, I'm like, wait, so Priscilla is a scroll who's only been on earth for about 30 years, but somehow she's playing the stereotypical put-out black wife role,

where her whole role in this entire episode is to yell about how Fury ain't shit and abandoned her. I was like, I think that kind of goes back to the like, if we're going to like buy into the fact that Fury has had a wife for all of these years, that character has to be instantly magnetic and has to be somebody that you think is existing for their own reason and not existing just to give fury some type of emotional undercurrent for fighting the scrolls.

Is that too harsh, man? Oh, no. No. I guess, no, I guess the question is did the wife reveal does all of this work and makes sense for the character that we understand

Nick Fury to be and just so we're being honest here they're unraveling Nick Fury's character and what we know about Nick Fury in the show in a very deliberate way later on there's

a discussion between Talos and Nick Fury about the fact that Nick Fury's rise up the ranks in Shield really has to do more with him weaponizing the scrolls than it does with his spy his spy expertise, his resourcefulness or, you know, what he's been able to, the connections he's been able to make all over the globe.

That is a shocking, shocking revelation about Nick Fury's character. That totally changes Nick Fury. I mean, to be fair, to be fair, if I was going to give the show any credit, that is how Talos feels about Fury's career. We don't, like, that is like, of course, the scroll is going to be there. Didn't seem to be must pushback on it. Fair, but to your point, I do agree where I was just like,

everything we know about Fury throughout the MCU was that the reason that he is here is because he can think of threats before they happen, and he can put players in a position to succeed. If you're telling me that he was just some average fucking Joe, a bench warmer that got lucky because he had this scroll kill crew, I start to think less of him as a character. And let me tell you what I mean about this. Alexander Pierce talks about his first interaction with Nick Fury

in Winter Soldier where he talks about the fact that Nick Fury, remember in Bogota, he, went against what they wanted them to do and they got everybody out and all of that stuff. And that seemed to be the fact that Nick Fury was brave, that he was, like I said, resourceful. He was smart. He was thinking ahead and all of that stuff. That's kind of what made Nick Fury. And by the way, part of being a spy and being an amazing spy is we don't know how you do what you do.

You just know how to do it. Like we're assuming that there's some combination of espionage and, you know, you know, experience and the ability to look at somebody and understand when they're lying, which was demonstrated on the train car in the train car scene. But we don't really know how. And kind of showing us the magic trick right there was an interesting way to take his character. And I think that that's a chance that they're taking with Nick Fury to give us, give him some vulnerability. And I also think to bring this back to his wife, that's something else that they're doing.

They're like trying to cut Fury down to make it fury against the world and to see that all of these people are so disappointed in him and displeased with him so that when he overcomes, it'll be a bigger trick. I guess my question to Jomey is, does that threaten the foundation of what we know Fury as and inherently make the show less compelling if it doesn't feel as if he's in as much control as what we thought that he was. No, I disagree. I think

I mean, to Charles's point, he mentioned this, like, we're hearing this from Tadus's point of view, right? And even though Fury doesn't, you know, buck up and it's like, no, that's not what happened, I still think you've got to give him credit for you got the schools. You've got to give those goals to how many other shield agents

and how many of them could have built what Nick Fury had, you know what I mean? to get their trust, to get their explicit trust. Remember, at the, when he was in that nasty English breakfast, and he's like, look, Talos, we got to go to England, we got to go London, let's push it. Talos was like, there was a time where I would have just done that, you know, no matter what. These days right now, I need something more. You know, there was a time when Nick Fury random John's, like, explicit.

Like, you go here, you go here, don't ask no questions. run this thing, you know? And so that speaks to him and speaks to like this level of trust that he had with the scrolls and how he was really able to, I want to say weaponize, but honestly, yeah, weaponize him into being his fury, his little, little spies. And we see that, we see it in Avengers, we've seen it into Ultron. We see it numerous times how Fury just presses the right buttons. He didn't need a scroll, right, to put down.

Colson's cards be like, hey, man, they got my man's, even though Maria was like, those were in his locker. You know what I mean? Like, he can still get the job done with all the scrolls. There's a level of competence,

his level of success that he has, but the scrolls, of course. It's like, like, you know, it's like, Brown and him. You know, people always want to get a credit of Brown. Brown's like, hey, man, he got an AD. You see,

he, told us who do he want to be his AD, he's Dwayway. Like, bro, I was also here. His Kyrie. I hit the big shots. You feel me? And, you know, it's like, look, cool, whatever. You're not really at this point.

You don't really care. You're just trying to get this job done. I do like the idea of putting Nick Fury on the back foot for the majority of this series because not only is it like a very good test of him, but it kind of like puts him in a spot where all of the tricks that he has in his bag no longer work because it's with the people and associates that he had that he more or less has let down. or undermined through the majority of the career that we've known him to be in the MCU. Like, the, you know, giving you the blood on the cards to give you an emotional push isn't going to work on somebody like Talos.

It's not going to be, it's not going to be a game that somebody like Gravach is going to be playing with you because you've known him for years and you've actively kind of ignored him for a while. So every sort of like sort of trick in favor and thing that, Nick Fury seems to try to pull and fail at to make, like to make Talos, like the closest thing that he'll ever get to apologizing to Talos is saying that I actually need you. And that actually was a very important kind of thing for me to see with Nick Fury, for us to see really, because he's never been on his own like this. He's never really been on the back foot to this degree. And as much as we like to

Cloudam has, like, he's really washed and not really, you know, taking a lot of this either seriously or well. I kind of like the idea that the undermining of Nick Fury at the heart of this show is something that we're probably going to be associating with his hero's journey, at least a second or a third or wherever we can say, because he's had a long, decades-long career here. I just want to see that it isn't going to feel, that it's going to feel earned rather than kind of just like deceptively shirked in at the end. You know, I would argue that Nick Fury don't owe Taylor's no motherfucking apology. He brought a million scrolls to Earth and didn't say shit.

Nick didn't bring that out once this episode. I'm like, dog, you're talking crazy for someone who lied like this. Do you guys understand what a gigantic fucking omission that is? He brought a million scrolls. to Earth. Like, we're watching fucking, uh, the Neptunes featuring Britney Spears girls and everybody could be a scroll.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they brought a million scrolls to Earth and didn't say shit. Dan Blazarian, all of these types of people, we're watching a million scrolls and didn't say shit. He don't all them no apology. He should smack the shit out of them. That's, that's, that's,

that's such a big deal. Like, you know what I'm saying? And then they kick you out of the council. So this motherfucker brings a million people to the planet and they don't even want to listen to him anymore. Can't even control them. Come on. Can't even control them. Whoa, Van, van, van. What?

Can't say that. I said he can't control the scrolls. That's what I said. What did you think I said? You can't say that about another people. He can't control his people. Come on. What? What's town supposed to do? Hey, let me tell you something. If I get invited to a party, I bring a bunch of them, homies.

I got to be able to control the homies, man. I'm sitting... But if someone... If someone's like, you got to control your... You got to control these motherfuckers. You got to control your people. Be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Well, it depends on how far they go. If they say, yo, Vang, why don't you check your people? You brought them to the party. That's one thing. But if they say, van, these niggers are ruining our fun. Oh, right.

That's a little different. I'm going to do the opposite. I'm going to be like, hey, tear this shit up. You know what I'm saying? Now that we're in problematic, Before we get off of Fury's wife, I have to ask this really quick. Is Fury's wife like a Rachel, how do you say her last name, like Dolazol? Like, because if you think about the previous episode, she was in Skrull Skin before Nick Fury got there.

And then she immediately turned to a black woman while he was there. And she's been living in this house alone. Like I saw the artwork. They had beautiful black artwork featuring African Americans up in their house. part of me is just like if I'm Nick Fury I'm like damn you've only been black for 30 years but you look 60 this is wild

so this is my thing with that I don't know how I feel about it right because when I watch the episode where the scrolls were taking the oath I actually felt the way that so many of them were turning it into white people I was like

and then they had a guy in the back I was like oh good so at least somebody wants the experience, right? Somebody wants to be down. So I don't know how I feel. Because, you know, it's like, if you come here and you're a scroll, I will want you to be down.

But at the same time, if you want to be down, I don't want that either. I want you to just be black on accident. I want it to kind of just happen to you. You want you to get a roll of the dice? Like they cry and you're like, I'm serious. It's weird.

I don't want you to choose it. And I don't want you to not choose. I want it just to happen to you. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. It's weird. If a scroll comes to Earth, like let's say the scrolls come to the bay, and

before they change into a black person, they sound like Steve, but immediately they switch to a black person, they sound like E40. Would you not feel away? No, because they have to shout out everybody. Everybody should be watching I'm a Virgo because I'm a Virgo is amazing. But they have to

change, they have to be, they can't be a scroll and then sound like Steve, that's going to be like two. That's obvious. I know you're an alien. Yeah. Yeah. But wait,

then why would we get, why are we getting madder? Like, I don't want to be this guy, but I'm just like, I don't want white people to do it. I don't want scrolls to do it either. You know,

you're adjacent to white people. Essentially. So you say that us. Whoa, are most aliens not coded as white? We said in the last fucking episode, every fucking alien in the MCU got a posh British accent,

sounding like they're from the fucking like their cousins with the royal family. I got to imagine that somebody's writing a scroll comic book right now that's going to come out in February 2024 where all the scrolls go to a meeting and there's a whole bunch of white scrolls and this is one black scroll

and the white scrolls are like, bro, I'm living life, man. Life is good, bro. Are we chilling? Black scrolls like, I may have made a mistake. We should say, though, the scrolls did choose a black scroll as their leader over Talos. So the scrolls are really moving at the same pace as America because we've only only had

one black leader here. So it's like we can't really judge them too harshly. Most difficult question. Would you let a black scroll call you that word? If I knew they were a scroll, no. No. You got to pull them aside. You can't out of it in the public, right? But you got to put them aside. You got to be like, hey, man.

That's the question. Can black scrolls say the N-word, bro? Seriously. That's the question. This is the question that we should ask all of our blurs out there. All of our fellow blurts. Can black scrolls say, I don't want to be called it by any black scrolls. Because they can switch that shit up.

I've seen them people turn them. Turn in the graphic in the museum, which is a cold-ass scene, by the way. I don't give a fuck what nobody, if you got like that scene between Talos and Gravick, when we see that graphic already has some extremist capabilities. So he's already subjected himself to some of this stuff. That was a cold scene. Charles, you've got to admit, that was a cold-ass scene in secret evasion. I plead the fifth.

Jesus Christ. Wow. Charles, come on. Because it don't make no sense. That was a cold scene. Why doesn't it make sense? Because, first of all, why would all of these scrolls

just turn into the human version of their leader? As a show of force? Why wouldn't they just show up, show themselves as scrolls? Everybody's a scroll in there. I know, but as a show of force, like, I'm with him.

As a show of force. Yeah, but then Talos stabs him, and I'm just like, wait, what? Why is Gravick letting you? stab him. What are we doing here? It didn't work for me. What? What? Hey, you guys, mark this one down as the great hoagie episode. Because I'm going to bring this hoagy shit back up. All right, let's real quick. We got, went on a crazy tangent there, but let's talk about Priscilla one more time. What is Priscilla up to? It seems as if she has everybody's allegiances are always in

question in this show. It seems like we don't know quite what she's up to. Do we have have any sort of ideas. Oh, I already know what's happening. I already... I got one with the Fury guess. All right. So, Priscilla, she feels responsible

for Gravick. So she's not working with him. She's just trying to appeal to his better nature. But the show is basically trying to be like, oh, is she on Fury side? Is she on Gravick side? Like, I personally think

that she, like, she goes to get the gun because she feels responsible that if Gravick is basically going to kill all of humanity, I need to take him out. The thing that I'm hoping doesn't happen is we don't get our like third

female character dying so that like a man could be like if there's a third fridging in this show, that's insane. Priscilla might not be long for this world, bro. Third fridging. Yeah, it's about to be a fridge convention. Like that's my prediction.

The defense of the bears. Here's the thing. I think what... I think what Priscilla had a really big tell when she was talking to Fury in the kitchen where... She's like, when you were... Like, I thought that you would be back with us to, like, rebuild from this pain that we had from the blip. So what I became when you were gone was I became myself. anybody that's fighting

in the international war with the scrolls would probably take that as suspect like really, really quickly to know that like okay, maybe your allegiances were tested while I was gone away in space and for five years during the blip.

Again, I'm not saying that Nick theory is on the back foot to the point of being irrelevant but like you kind of got to keep an eye on that. No, she got her wedding ring on still. She made Fury put his wedding ring on when he stepped in. She's still with him, do or die. She's still down. She's still down.

They can't bring a black woman into the show and they make her be like disloyal straight up like that. Like we don't. You know what I'm saying? She's not a black woman. She's a scroll. But she kind of is, but is she though? But she got to act like a sister though. Can she call you the N-word?

No, man. There you go. There you go. I think the interesting part. of that scene at the end. She's got the gun, and we're like, she's going, like, she got the blicky in the bank? That's weird.

But she's on the phone, and we hear Rody. And Rody's like, you ain't got graphic. You got me. And so I was like, yo, is Rody a scroll? But then I was like, I don't know. I think maybe part of it is, and that goes back to the conversation the beginning, where, you know, she's like, you know,

hey, do we work together? I don't work into you, my boy. And so maybe she's got connections with Rodi. Because, I mean, for me, Rody being a scroll, it really, I don't know how I would take that. It would depend on when he got switched out. Yeah, but Rody called him Nick, though.

In the second episode. And they brought that, they brought that big thing back. They brought it back. They brought that Nick thing back. I feel like to give us a direct roadmap to Rody being a scroll. It would really depend on when he got switched out.

It really depends on when he got switched out. Like if he got switched out and like an Iron Man too, like Charles said, then I don't know how I would handle that. You know what I mean? It turns out he got switched out somewhere like between and game. Well, he couldn't have gotten switched out before Civil War because he would have reverted when he fell out of the sky. Exactly.

Facts. So, like, or you know what I mean? He would have reverted when he fell out of the sky. So it would have to have been some point. point after that. He was still alive, though. He didn't die there. He was still alive. But like, even isn't it, even when they cut your shit, but his lower half is broken. Yeah, even

when they cut your, she cut the guy's finger off and it turned to a- Turned back to a scroll. So if he lost, wouldn't he, he would have reverted at that point? I don't know. I mean, yeah, so it's really weird how this thing works between their physiology.

But, yeah, so I guess at some point in, like, something I did think about how, like, Rodi's walking really good. He's walking great for a dude whose lower half was turned to mush in Civil War. Like, he had like the robot things in Infinity War and end game. You could tell like he was, you know, he wasn't the fastest dude. But like the gift I used to promote last week's episode, he's walking down the stairs like it's sweet. It's like, ah, I don't know, man. It might be grim. It may, you might be a squirrel for show. all right look um final thoughts really quick uh before we get to the midnight manacarta magna carter real quick

just a yes or no from everyone three episodes in is secret invasion close to sticking the landing charles you're going to go last uh steve it's very close i think i i think this is going to come in right at the wire to know whether or not it's this stuck the landing but it is on the upswing with every single episode. I am getting

slightly more compelled every single time. I think Gaia's plight come the end with the seemingly death of Gaia. That is going to activate both Talos

and well actually we know if she's actually dead that is the third phryging. We know she's not dead. It's not even, you know, we know she's not dead. That's been spoiled my train. She's not dead.

She's not dead. It's like whatever's going to. More stuff in trailers. Yeah. We've seen this character in trailers. Or maybe maybe somebody else. You never know. She could be dead.

Never know. But if she's actually dead. Like her. Yes, very true. Taking on her form. Exactly. All right, Jomey. Rest of peace, Guy.

No, I think we got to see the second half of the sandwich, man. You know, there might be some mustard in there. Maybe some pickles. Yep. No. No. No. No.

No. No. on the fucking sandwich. There's no, it's one sandwich, okay? Yeah, maybe that's not got extra mustard. Yeah. Maybe the guy making the sandwich wasn't exactly there's not enough mustard in this fucking world. Fuck the fucking sandwich,

man. Is the fucking shit working, Jomey? Yes. Yes or no. It's working for me. We got to see what happens. In the second half, we got to lock in. I'm, like, of course, you know, I'm not with Steve on the whole way. Like, it's going to come down to the end, you know,

um, so far, so good. And if they keep going on this momentum, I think we're going to have a series that we feel like we're going to look back and be like, we enjoyed that. So, yeah. It's working for me. I think it's building a little momentum every single time. They've got three episodes left to really get us there.

Is that enough? Who knows? It's not a great show. It's not a bad show. Once again, I think it's being, is being crushed under the overall perception of the MCU right now because it's a cool television show.

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coconut milk and golden brown sugar. Don't miss Sol de Janado's limited edition perfume mis collection only at Sephora. Guys, a couple of weeks ago, this is a momentous occasion in the Midnight Boys, momentous occasion right now, a couple of weeks ago. The Midnight Boys had a lively chat about spoiler etiquette. How many days does someone have to watch a movie before it's spoiler free for all? TV shows have a smaller window than movies. As always, that discussion became a bit and now segment. So we're unveiling the Midnight Magna Carta, Charles.

Take it away. All right. So all four of us have brought forth two fandom rules we believe should be sacred, followed, and obeyed. According to the Midnight Bylaws, a rule can only be ratified into the Magna Carta with the majority vote. So we're going to go Rule 1. Each of us are all going to say our Rule 1s.

and then we're going to vote. Okay? Then we're going to go rule to, repeat. Then you got the first rule. What is it? I proposed the Wachowski Act of 2023. Oh, I'm already in. Which states that an official midnight meter ranking of a movie

shall be implemented six months after that movie's release. Listen to what I'm saying. So listen to what I'm saying. There is a preliminary midnight. meter and then the official midnight meter is actually the mulligan. The change to the meter is not even necessary. It's not even, it's not necessary. It's not encouraged.

You do not have to change your initial midnight meter ranking. We're not encouraging the changing of a ranking, but we're saying that over a six-month period, rewatchability, cultural impact and influence, and lore value are all considered. As evidence here, I would put movies like

Spider-Man No Way Home and other films up for, that is like the Wachowski Act. Sure, we all give a midnight meter ranking. It never has to change. However, the official

midnight meter ranking is actually the midnight meter ranking that comes along, after some time. All right. That was greatly argued. Let's take it to a vote. I'm going to start with Jomi.

The Wachowski Act. Yes or no? Absolutely fucking not. I could not support my brother Jomey anymore. That's an instant nay. It's an instant nay. No shot. I think I would be included.

to vote nay only because it like it would have to just be like, okay, well, we it undermines the vote that we feel about it in the moment and then after some time, then it's a bit more solid. I think that it could be malleable. That's why we like the mulligan. So I would vote this down personally.

It's fine, fine. I'm only here to propose the loss. Okay. That's fair. Is it me again or is it type of? No, I got rule one. This one is more of a general fandom rule, but I think that we should all follow it. let my people go.

Okay? You don't ask your cousin who just got out the pen when is he plan to go back in. We need to stop asking all these actors when they're going to come back to their movies. Christian Bale is never going to be Batman again. Okay?

We got to judge Deadpool 3 on its own merits. I don't need to hear that Hollyberry is fucking coming back. None of that shit. We need to stop. If an actor has been in a franchise for a decade plus, we no longer should ask them. Junkets, in interviews on the web,

whether they're ever going to reprise the role. Walking Robert down to June, he gave us enough. I'm talking to the entire cottage industry around whether this gifted app is going to play this superhero for another 15 years. Fuck out of here.

Let my people go for law. Y'all can vote on it. I mean, I guess I vote yay. I couldn't care less. So it's like, I guess I vote yay. I mean, I don't care about asking people to come back. I guess it's a yay. I don't care enough to vote, no.

What do you guys think? Yeah, I'm with you. I don't really care enough to be like, no, man, let's keep asking Robert Downey Jr. about Iron Man 4. Like, yeah, they'll come back because the check will be big enough, you know, at some point. But at the point, yeah, asking them all the time. Yeah, I guess it could be annoying.

Sure, why not? And it's also, I'd also like to, like, incorporate the, like, Andrew Garfield of it all when he was, like, constantly, constantly, constantly asked whether or not he was in no way home. And he had to keep saying no when we all knew that he was. And it didn't matter what his answer was. It's just more about the fact that we can get him to trip up. Yeah. I think even for that reason, I'd be inclined to vote yes because there's just like, let him, like, just see the movie. Just go see the thing.

Daniel Radcliffe just had to tell motherfuckies he's not going to be in the Harry Potter. TV show. I'm like, yo, that man's almost 40. Like, relax. He can't play Harry Potter anymore. It's fucking. Okay. Into the Magna Carre, it goes. Jome. Okay. I got, my first one is another

general one for the folks at the crib. So, you know how I work in social. And, you know, you've got to get content off and you've got to make jokes. And sometimes there's only a period of time when this thing is hot, when this thing is

cooking. And sometimes it's in the area where people seen this, people not seen this, ah, you know, I need to get this content out, but spoilers. Oh, no, what do I do? My rule,

okay, is now, if you haven't seen, you haven't seen the movie, you haven't seen the TV show after all the, after all the the robe like the the spoiler warning like 72 hours, 40 hours,

no matter what it is, if you're not offline in that time and you get spoiled, that's between you and your God. Stay off the internet. Don't blame people but spoiling stuff, talking about stuff that you haven't seen

because you was not, you was not at your TV at since clock to watch succession. You know what I'm saying? Stay off the internet, okay? If it's 72 hours and you still haven't seen the cross-spodiverse,

because I go on TikTok, I see the whole, you can see the whole movie on TikTok nowadays. You can see the whole shit on Twitter. Yeah, it's nuts. People be recording the stuff on their phones in the movies, you know what I'm saying? So at this point, no matter what the spoiler regulation is, you haven't seen it. Don't look at me.

Don't be mad at me. Be mad at yourself for being online. Turn off the app. They got rate limits anyways. Turn your app off. Go see the movie. Go watch the TV show. And they come back to the internet.

Be responsible for your own self. All right. Before I say an instant gay follow-up, Jomey, what are what are the time limits, TV movie? Give it to me quick. For me, TV instant. If it's out on the television, it's like live sports. You're they're not there.

So even if it's like a season drop like the bear was. Well, how many people will be watching it? You know what I'm saying? You got to, you got to parse yourself. Because, you know what I'm saying? Be responsible, okay? For the movies, movie drops on Thursday, you got it until Monday morning.

Especially if it's a big movie. You know what I mean? So here's why I have to vote now. Because it's not detailed enough. Just saying stay off the web is not enough. What you should be saying is the rules should be don't spoil yourself. Because people got to go on the web. They don't got to go on Twitter.

They don't got to go on Twitter. People got to go on Twitter. No, they don't. No, they don't. They got to go on. Twitter. They touch crap. Like people.

Twitter is the town hall. People got to go on Twitter. Can you not mute keywords? That's what I'm saying. That's why the rule, if we're going to put something into a Magna Carta, the rule should not be stay off the web because that's too broad. It's search safe. Right.

The rule should be don't spoil yourself. The rule is not about whether or not you go on Twitter. It's about you should be responsible for spoiling yourself. And if we're going to make something a rule, then that's what's. then let's amend the law though then then we can amend the law an addendum an addendum exactly an addendum stand up the web addendum one point a points make sure that you're taking all proper precautions including you know what muting keywords muting accounts doing everything you can to not spoil the movie or the television show for yourself.

How about that? Instant yay for me. It's a yay for me. It's a yay. It's a yay, but it's a soft yay. It's a broad rule. I think we need to think a little bit more deeply.

It's a yay. The man who complains about spoiler having to say that there's spoiler every single episode? But I complain about it because people are listening to an instant reaction podcast. Same with blogging on Twitter. But Twitter is too broad Do you know like I found out about the Russian

coup on Twitter But I can't tell somebody not to fucking go on Twitter And get relevant news Because niggas might be talking about Iron Man on that bitch You know what I'm saying? Like I can ask them to be responsible When they're on there But I can't say hey

The I'm just like Okay I get what you guys are trying to say though But we have to be The Madna card is important And we have to be specific about it We are specific You get instant for TV you have until Monday morning

for films that drop on Thursday. I think that's... Steve, go. All right. This is for more or less us and how I like to produce the show. If any film, TV show, not a book,

came out before 1990 and only Vann has seen it. This triggers an automatic Vana's old sound effect. That's already... What are we doing here with the Magna Carta? You guys already do that. Okay?

So anything that happened before the year 2000, Like, it's already I'm giving you some grace here. Bro, bro. I could be like, hey, I saw Revenge the Sith in theaters. Panic old. You guys already do this.

Fine, yes. If it came up before 1990. Oh, I was actually going to say, I was going to say a nay. Because 1990 is very fucking close to the year I was born. And I'm closer to the day. Yeah. It's like if we put this in here, I don't want to hear a fucking Charles's old fucking sound drop in two years.

This sets a bad precedent for the Magna Carta. Well, no, it's as the second oldest person here, I feel like 1990, the year that I was born, would automatically trigger that. So I would say a yay if we add in an addendum that at no point can anybody else on this podcast be made fun of because they're old because Van is oldest. I mean, that's fine.

Sure. But here's the thing. This is something. that is already in practice. You guys are caught. We're ratifying it. It's an instant gay for me.

Yay. I vote yay. It's ratified. I vote yay. I vote yay. What's your number two that, Ben? I actually have two more, but that's fine. No, give us both of them.

Okay. So the first one is the 12 Protection Act. Okay. That this states that at any time, in any case, There may only be 12 movies that rank as 12s on the midnight meter. Oh, I don't. It's the 12.

Instant nay. It's the 12. 12's rule. If the ruling body of Midnight Boys can agree on a movie's 12ness by ballot, the deciding vote goes to Arjuna Romgapal. If Arjuna is not pregnant, if Arjuna is not present, then the audience of the midnight mob and the Midnight Riders may then vote on a movie's

12ness at a live show. You must be present to vote any addition to the 12th. You have to be present to vote on it. This is the reason why I have this. It's because I've seen cracks in the

sacredness of the 12s. And I think it would help to limit the number of 12s. I'm looking for more of the baseball Hall of Fame and not the NBA Hall of Fame so that the sanctity of the 12 there should be the 12 12s 12 movies that are 12s

and that will cause rigorous debate about not just what is fandom but what is 12 quality and what meets the criteria and it would take so much to knock a movie off if it's perch that that's the way we should do it, I think. The 12 Protection Act.

If not, then everything that we like and it makes a lot of money is a 12, and I don't think that it works that way. So here's the thing, right? You start, you start to get in the weeds with the 1212s, right? Because then becomes, all right, let's say, let's say,

up and high, well, Abin Ha, I don't think we rated it on the minimum, But let's say we do we do Oppenheimer. And Oppenheimer, Claire 12. Oh, it's the greatest movie we've ever seen. It's going to win all the Oscars. What do you then bump off? Yeah, we can't have two Avengers, and we can't have two Avengers films because I'm not having,

like, that's not fair. To be honest with you, I could make an argument that there shouldn't be two Avengers movies that are both 12s. I could make an argument that you should have to choose between Infinity War and Ingame, and I don't know if you guys know, but we do a podcast. and we are in the habit of not just saying, hey, both of these seats, but talking and discussing and parsing things out, having the tough conversations.

So do they become 11s? They would become 11s. They would become 11s, or this is the way the actual legislating works, is you have something that you think is a great idea, and you realize it is only a good idea, and then it can't become a law. So I think there's some things that we might think are 12s. We might feel that they're 12s, but they're actually 11s or 11 and a halfs or 11.9s.

Or you know a real 12 when you see it. Look, I'm just trying to set standards. I've been swayed. I've been swayed. I'm going to yay. Because I want this to bite Van in the ass for one of these. I'm going with a yay. I've been convinced.

Let's fucking do it. This 12 12s at any time. Only 1212s. Only 1212s. Guys, guys, guys, be very careful about what you're about to do. Let go. I'm promised.

Okay. Okay, the last one, real quick, the last one nobody's going to vote for, but I really want this. This is my most important one. The Deep Shadow Protocol Transparency Act. Holy shit. No.

I'm already saying no. No. No. No. No. What is the next. Wait a second. Wait a second.

Wait a second. The Deep Shadow Protocol Transparency Act. This is what it is. At the end of a one-year period. No. Listen, listen. No. Listen.

Listen. You guys aren't even giving me a chance. Listen. At the end of a one-year period, the midnight mob and riders can request the uncovering of anything previously deemed Deep Shadow Protocol with the following process, a petition online with 20,000 signatures. Hell no.

Which then forces a special podcast to discuss the aforementioned Deep Shadow Protocol event, triggering a midnight court by which there is a prosecution and a defense arguing for and against the unearthing of said protocol, okay? And which would then be deliberated on

by five different jurors of personalities across the Ringer podcast network. Yeah, no shot. So I'm calling for a process by which the fans whom we do this podcast for can declassify deep shadow protocol instances.

It's a rigorous, process, but I think it's only fair after a one year period to allow the fans to have some say in the Deep Shadow Protocol situation. Beautifully argued, instant nay. No, no.

No shot. I like my job. Yeah, as the keeper of the fault, I got to say, no, this has got to stay down. But think about it. You think about everything. I mean, you have a good strategy for, like, some deep content for sure. It's like, I trust the fans, I trust the fans to get 20,000 signatures.

That's what they would. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing. You gotta make that 100,000. But the 20,000 signatures only go, only takes it to court. And then we argue the merits of the deep shadow. Too much. Right.

And then, so you would, and then after that, we got, we have, we have a ringer jury. Like, think of it. Greenwald, Mal, Joe, like Chris Ryan. No, no, no, no, first of all, first of all, because that means that all of these people will have to hear what was in each other protocol. No, they don't. Hold on. Last thing I was saying, then we got to move on. No, they don't.

They only have to hear the arguments as to why this was protocol. It would ruin me. I would defier. No, no. All right. All right, fans, I tried to give you some autonomy. I tried to give you some say. Go ahead.

No shot. My rule number two is called the Great. Hater Clause. Wow. At this point, the term hater is all meaning

when it is applied to one of our greatest podcasters, a one Charles A. Holmes. Okay? The word hater means nothing

anymore, especially if a lot of times I do love stuff, okay? So I'm saying that hater on this podcast should be

put up in, put up with our biggest slurs as something we should not say to such a beloved, a beloved asset to the Ringer podcast network. And if someone wants to deem me a hater, then they should follow a rigorous rubric where we look at, what have I rated it on the midnight meter? What's the rotten tomato score? Do the fans give a fuck about it? All of these, I will give you, I print it out a rubric, I will send it later. I'll print it out a rubric. Okay. But the great hater clause,

2023 should be instituted to stop the easy malignment and abuse of one Charles A. Holmes on this podcast. Let me tell you why I'm voting now. What what a selfish

fucking rule. You're not trying to institute rules that make the show better or set rules It's about keeping people off your ass. What a selfish rule. Whoa. That's so selfish.

Mr. has a whole rule for the Matrix Resurrections? What are we doing? It's named after it, though. It's not a rule for the Matrix Resurrections. It's a rule for the Midnight Meter. I'm trying to... It's a rule because everybody be on your ass because you be scoring these movies wildly. No, it's, no, that rule was actually to give us.

There were two rules to maintain what is our signature thing. the intensity of the midnight meter. That's what it was for the midnight meter itself. I will say this, whether or not people call you a hater or not, I don't know that we can make a rule on that. You're actually censoring the audience. Yes. I want the audience to live in my world.

Yes. Okay, well. Big brother, Big brother Chuck would like to censor our audience. Right after Van tries to give them autonomy, you try to take away their voice. Jesus, Craig. Yeah, it's not going to happen. So, all right, two gays, put that in the Magna Carta. Thank you so much, guys.

No, no, no. Yeah, no big shot. You tried it. All right, my second rule, I'm calling us the Ayo mandate. And this one, this is for Van. You only get one A.O. An episode.

You only get one Italian meats an episode. One five-inch warrior? You guys, one five-inch warrior episode. These rules are so unsurious. You guys, what the fuck? I can't do it.

Jimmy, I can't do it. I'm a crazy old, freak, immature. I'm 13 years old. I'm by far the youngest person on this podcast, mentally and emotional. I can't do it. I'm sorry.

It's out. You say something Like, oh, that's a, I got a big, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, my mind goes right there. I can't, Jomey. I'm sorry. It's a fucking no. Oh, that's a game for me. I just want to see, I want to see a van can do it.

That's an interesting thing. So, what happens? So, like, here's the deal. What happens when I'm on my, like, my fifth one? Like, is there some kind of, like, retribution? Do I get muted for five minutes? Like, I can't do this. Oh, you know, we should put Van in a penalty box.

Oh, my God. No. No. Hey, wait a second. This is draconian control. This is draconian. Everything that's happened, you guys are authoritarian. Everything that's happened is authoritarian.

The problematic penalty box should be instated after. It's a gay for me. Hold on for a second. I just want you guys to understand something. All your rules, this is the rules that the Midnight Boys have instituted. Don't go on the internet. don't say this to Charles so Steve,

so Steve, you have the final yeah or day, what the fuck is going on? What's happening? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. I'm not going to put them in a box. Steve, you got the final. Incredible.

All right. I'm going to call this the million dollar baby precedent. If all of the Midnight Boys, except for Jomey, have seen something, anything, he is required to see it by the next week's show to give his full thoughts. Automatic, yay. What? Yeah. Guys, you got to think about this.

Got to think about this. Good or otherwise. Doesn't matter if we think it's good, bad, or otherwise. Like, you have to see it. Well, let's talk about this, guys. Let's have a conversation about this. because million-dollar baby, okay, Oscar-winning film.

The last 40 minutes, kind of crazy, okay? I can't keep doing this, fellas. I got to be honest with you. Jomey, shut the fuck up. You watch The Witcher. Like, come on, love. This is the most insincere thing

that's ever happened, bro. You can't watch what we're asking because you're too busy watching fucking Emily and Paris. Get the fuck out of here. Yes, man. No, Jomey, come on. You will watch.

Jomi, guess what? Jomey, you will watch it. That's what that's the new slogan. Is this a three- yay? I'm definitely voting yay. Yeah, I'm definitely voting yay. Absolutely not. Why would I vote this?

Hell yeah. I got texted too. It's a, it's an, it's a, it's a automatic yay. Oh, man. So ratified. Because that's something actually for the audience. Look, this is what we need you guys to do. We need the audience to help us here. I would like you guys to come up with Magna Carta rules

because we're building this document out and just throw things at us and then us as the Midnight Boys we'll talk about them. Oh, we'll read some. Whatever the best Magna Carta you'll send us, we'll read a few. We'll try to ratify them.

We'll read a few. And then we'll see if we can ratify the Midnight Carta situation. I tell you guys, one thing right now, no filibuster here. Seriously, guys, sleep on. sleep on it. Sleep on the deep shadow no. Hell no.

Never happening. You can bring that we've said? Hell no. All right. I'm saying. Lock stuff in the vault. Drive away between us an audience. That's a wrap. Follow us on socials. It's the Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, save Jomey's job.

Programming reminders this Friday, Joe and Mal will give you their deep dive on Secret Invasion episode three. Lots of stuff happening. on the channel. Stay locked in with us. Lots of stuff happening outside of some of the stuff we're watching, too. We might need to give you guys a nerd news minute next week.

I need to kind of get current on some of the stuff that's going on. Three episodes of the invasion left. Our credits are Steve, the architect Alman, Jomi, a dinner on, on social. Hashtag Jomi will watch it. An additional production from Arjuna-Ram Kapal. Charles, take us out. Can scrolls say the N-word? Can the midnight Magna Carta ever be beat?

And I will never apologize in my life for loving that sweet Italian. That also I don't feel like is white or black. Because I really, I feel, I can't. Thanos is a white man. Nah, he's not. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why.

Seriously. Is this the hero's draft all over again? Hold on, let me tell you, let me tell you why he's not. Because, like, no white man wants to kill half of his slaves. You know, they want, they need people to subjugate. That's facts. Okay. That's facts.

They need you, like, you die on accident. That's a return, though. Like, you, like, they need people to subjugate. They're like, hey, I need, if anything, they will be want to make more people that put under their thunk. Now, and no, and no black person. is just going to want to kill random people for like no reason. It's got to be a reason before we get active. You know what I'm saying?

So it's like, Daniel's not a reason? It wasn't a reason. Like, that's too forward thinking. It would have to be some jays on the line, you know, to kill somebody. God damn. Look, here's crazy today. I can't.

There's good. That's good. Okay, so here it is. Here it is. There's different problems that people. people have, okay? I'm from a place where people get killed for nothing, but I live in a country

where, like, people, my people have been killed for generations. Hey, it's different things, guys. Let's just be real about it. These are the problems that, these are the things that of Thanos would have to have to deal with. Like, why do I do it? Do I do it because you're from the wrong

block, or do I do it to make you a slave? These are the things. All right? Okay, these are the things that happen. There's a, there's a, Thank you.