The Ringer-Verse - She-Hulk’ Episode 6 Reactions | Mint Edition

Episode Date: September 22, 2022

Steve and Jomi are back to dive into the sixth episode of ‘She-Hulk.’ The guys break down Jen’s day as a bridesmaid, She-Hulk’s battle with Titania, and Mr. Immortal divorce cases. Hosts: Jomi... Adeniran and Steve Ahlman Associate Producer: Jonathan Kermah Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:52 which includes gas, bloating, rumbling, and abdominal discomfort. Yes, it's a self-contained wedding episode, and if you think this is happening at an inconvenient time in the season, you're right, because that's how weddings always are. But I'm going to look great, so let's go. Hello, welcome into the Ringerverse, the Ringer's Nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. Welcome back to the Mint Edition. It's the once-and-a-while podcast for all the latest fandom that you just can't live without.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I'm Steve Alman, Senior Producer at the Ringer. Joining me today is my co-host, Ringer Sulfa coordinator, Lord of the Memes, Explaner of the Midnight Boys, and for him, 20 seconds of sustained eye contact. He really is interminable. It's Jomey at dinner on. Steve, I'm not going to lie to you, I got in trouble about some eye contact over the weekend, bro. All right, we tread lightly here.
Starting point is 00:02:50 What do we do? You know, I'm not going to get into details, but I was talking to somebody and they're like, Johnny, the way he was looking at me, bro. It was nuts. Did you ever do that, like, New York Times article of, like, the 60 things that you could do to fall in love with somebody if you have these questions
Starting point is 00:03:07 at a dinner conversation? No, I did not. One of them is like 30 seconds of unbroken eye contact. I think we're going to do that at the end of the show. Should stare at each other? Yeah. Steve, I might fall in love with you. This will then become a relationship podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Awesome. Today's show is going to be great. We're giving the firm of Lindberg and Associates, the week off, to talk about She-Hulk this Thursday. But before we get into that, we're going to have some programming reminders for you. Tomorrow, the House of Our will return to Middle Earth once again to give you the deep dive in the latest episode of the Rings of Power. Sunday Talk the Thrones comes right back with the latest episode of House of the Dragon right after it airs to get you your instant reactions for all that Targaryen messiness.
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Starting point is 00:04:24 That's what happens when they hit the follow. It's a little clackety-clack-clack sound. But on today's show, we're off to a wedding and looking for some groomsmen. Yeah. It's She-Hulk. Friendly Neighborhood, spoiler warning, everything that's come out in She Hulk, and maybe a little bit of the MCU in general.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And we're going to be talking about it right now. Quick question before we dive into it. Yes, Jeremy. Steve, can I be a groomsman at your wedding? Yeah. Oh, wow. See, we got that on wax. That's a little tape.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah, no, you could absolutely be a groomsman at my wedding. When Steve gets married. When I'm 75 and somebody agrees to marry me. I can't be the best man because, you know, you got you got partners, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to be all that. Right. But I got to be like, you know, I got to be, you know, second man, second or third man up, you know, on the hierarchy list. Here's my ideal, like, absurd wedding.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Like, my, I have like 40 groomsmen. Okay. See, now I don't feel special. Well, okay, well, your wedding is going to be rented out in SoFi. So it doesn't really matter, like, with my numbers are going to be. It's going to be tight. You feel me, my groomsmen list. I'm thinking about five or six.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Okay. You understand. We're going to keep it tight. It's going to, you know what I'm not making a big deal. If I'm, like, I'm not going to take it personally if I'm not a groomsman. His thing. Here's this thing, Steve. I've made a lot of promises so a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:05:36 That's right. I owe a lot of people a lot of things. So I can't say with any specificity right now what it could look like, but you never know. I mean, if I'm up there, it's going to look like one vanilla beanstalk. That's tough. But we need the diversity. You might need the color. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. It's very true. I was talking to Justin Herbert the other day because, you know, he owns so far. He's the guy in charge. So I was like, hey, man, if I need to get this place for your wedding, what the diversity requirements is looking like? can he say to get back to me. So you never know what could happen, Steve. So just keep your heart open.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Jomey, it's been a minute since we talked about Sheehulk. It's been a long time. It's been a minute. And we're back to talking about it. It's been a couple of episodes. And we talked about the premiere. We loved it. We thought it was a great, like, comedy romp
Starting point is 00:06:20 and a breath of fresh air in the MCU. Let's take a quick minute to get us up back to speed. What have you thought about the season so far? Are you liking Sheeholt? It's such a refreshing point of my day. on Thursday. So I'm like, oh, man, this new episode of She-Hulk, and I can just laugh and enjoy a superhero show.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I have to worry about, oh, man, how does this affect this? How does this affect that? Like, think about, there's no huge, bigger picture to think about where Deshawn and Amanda, I can just watch the show, enjoy it laugh, and get a bond my day. Like, I am really enjoying it. What about you? It's a lovely, like, Long Island Ice Tea of a show where you just kick back,
Starting point is 00:07:03 and have fun. And don't think about it too much because, you know, this ain't Andor. We're not going to be saved in the world every day. It's not going to be the high stakes
Starting point is 00:07:11 action-filled romp that we're going to be looking for. And I'm fine with it. I love it. Jen is the best. And this is probably one of the, like, my favorite MCU shows that has been coming out
Starting point is 00:07:22 in a long, long while. It's just so much fun, like, to see, you know, all the stuff we associate with the MCU. Like, we've gotten long. You know what I'm saying? and none of it is so serious. None of it is,
Starting point is 00:07:37 all the world's going to end. Like, Madison, like the bit with Madison, fantastic. Fantastic. She's going to conquer Kang. There's no way she's not coming back.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Madison? Like, outside of She-Hulk. There's no way she doesn't not come back. Listen, there's two ends and a Y, but it's not where you think. Anytime Wong shows up in the MCU,
Starting point is 00:08:02 she needs to be somewhere in the wing. Like, hey Wong, bro, we're trying to go down to the deli, bro. You want some, you want a tutor mill? Nah, bro, me and me in Madison, we got reservations out at Nobu this weekend, so we can't, yeah, can't slide. We're just going to go to L.A. right now. So I'll see you.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I see you back there, right, for show. That's fire. Besides our tipsy queen, what other big standout moments from this season do you have before we get into today's episode? I like the lawyer of it all I know it's not like you know it's not like we're not getting like
Starting point is 00:08:39 Daredevil Netflix like where they're like battling you know seeing like fighting for like real real things you know like the like the season two of the Punisher or whatever but it's it's fun like that in one of the previous episodes where she brings all our exes to court
Starting point is 00:08:56 to get the She Hulk name and she just got to like sit there corroborate with all those douchebags. Exactly. And you see her like slinking in her chair because it's just like, it's killing her. It's a fun bit. And like the whole show is like that
Starting point is 00:09:10 where it's just enjoyable for moment to moment. I couldn't agree more. You know what? I love the Meg the Stallion cameo. It's great. It was great. It was great. I think it was so funny to,
Starting point is 00:09:23 I loved it when the news leaked on Twitter that like Meg the Stallion will be joining the MCU in an undisclosed role. and then the next day she's in Shee Hulk as herself, having a great time. Everybody's getting mad for no reason, and I love it. But let's take a look at this week's episode. It was a blast.
Starting point is 00:09:45 This episode is titled Just Jen, directed by Anu Valiah, and written by Kara Brown. We're off to a wedding with Jen and some shitty high school friends. Mallory's going to be picking up the slack at Jen's firm while she's out of town. The inconvenient wedding episode, Jomey, I don't think we're getting Daredevil in this week. Oh, yeah? I don't think we are.
Starting point is 00:10:09 What told you that? We saw the helmet last week, and I'm guessing, unless Matt Murdoch is here to crash this wedding, I don't know if he's going to be doing back clips during the nuptials. I love how they tell us that right off the top. You know, they're doing the wedding thing, and you're probably like, oh, man, they teased Daredevil last week. I wonder what's going on.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And she looks directly at the camera. She's like, well, this is an inconvenient time for a wedding episode. But when aren't wedding is inconvenient? All right, let's get on with it. And you're like, oh, yeah, okay. So no dinner with this week. Cool, let's keep it pushing. Keep it pushing.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It's still a fun episode. Still a really fun, delightful episode. Jen rolls up to a wedding and what looks like Calabasas. It looks like Calabas. Set to stun in a nice little polka dotted number. But Bridezilla Lula. played by Patty Harrison, the great Patty Harrison,
Starting point is 00:11:02 you might know her from such things as, I think you should leave, one of the funniest people on that show. She's not having it. She's not going to have a She Hulk at her wedding. No. Not here to upstage her. Bit of a party foul here.
Starting point is 00:11:14 What do you mean by that? Well, she tells Jen not to Hulk out at her wedding and not steal the shine from the bride, not supposed to wear white, but nobody said anything about not wearing green, Jomey. What the hell's her deal? Seriously, right? I mean, Steve, you understand. You can't.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You get, there's levels of respect, right? So it's her weekend. You can't draw attention away from the bride. That's true. Jomi, if this is your wedding. Yeah. And you know somebody's looking better than you. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Are you coming up and like making a scene? I'm not making a scene. I would have my groomsmen to quietly escort them from the premises. Just like, let's be honest. So you're going to put me on security detail. Yeah. At your own wedding. I'd be like, hey, Steve.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Steve, I can't you on brother. Hey, listen. that dude out of there, he got those new Jays. Wow. I'm not really feeling out. I only got the last edition. You're going to make me kick out Yaya Abdul Mateen because you're famous and rich now
Starting point is 00:12:07 and like you guys are rubbing shoulders. Listen. You invited it. You knew he was coming. There are levels of respect that must be carried. It must be had. I understand what Patty is saying to or what Lulu is saying to a certain extent. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You know what I'm saying? You can't be out there doing the most now. No, it's like she's being real petty. I mean, I don't invite. You don't invite somebody that you know is she Hulk. But that's what you're, what I'm saying. Like, I feel like her being she Hulk would be really cool because you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm cool with Sheihok. Like, look at me. She's not wearing white. She's not committing any party fouls. She's just getting jealous. I must say I condone the behavior, but I understand. All right. Well, Jen concedes and promises that she's not going to Hulk out during the wedding.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And Lulu then promises Jen that she is going to be walking down the aisle with one of the best groomsmen that they got. But meanwhile, Mallory and Nikki are making, taking on more. Multiple civil cases against Mr. Immortal. The great Mr. Immortal played by Dave Pasquazzi, aka Mark Shans from a little program known as Book of Boba Fett, that's Slimy Mare's assistant. I absolutely loved Mr. Immortal in this. What did you think of this first interaction with Mr. Immortal
Starting point is 00:13:21 and his avoidance for conflict by basically getting out of a marriage by killing himself? Just nuts. So here's the funny thing on Mr. Immortal. Mystery Mortal is actually a mutant, you know, according to most. But we're not saying the M word just yet. Hey, I'm saying his comic book origins have him as a mutant. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Right. And he discovers his powers one day by, and this is really sad, trying to kill himself. And then he couldn't. And he was like, oh, I guess I live forever now. Which again, a tragic origin story brilliantly twisted as, kind of a shitty conflict avoidant ancient man that has gone through multiple little trists and fraudulent things
Starting point is 00:14:08 with many people in his life that we'll find about later. Let me tell you something, man. So Mallory and Nikki are going at this dude. We're at the office. So what about your insurance? You know, why are you doing this? Zada-da-da.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Nikki's taking more of like, what the hell is your problem? And Mallory's just like, business. What are your insurance claims? Da-da-da. do you fake birth certificates or death certificates that's a da-da-da and the dude gets up doing the groundwork
Starting point is 00:14:32 dude gets up dines up a little bit and just freaking yeats him stuff out the window he takes he takes the short exit downstairs to conduct business elsewhere I was watching that
Starting point is 00:14:47 and I was like oh my God I did not expect that at all I was so flabbergasted at the fact that they just like showed a man jump out of a skyscraper Oh my gosh. And you know what? I would have loved, not to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:02 writers room this, but like, would have been great if he just jumps, because he like smashes the window and like obliterates it, which, like, you'd think the glass would be pretty sharp. The fact that, like, I would have loved if there was just like a window next to it, that was just like a lift. And he just goes out the one that he broke. But no, it was so funny that he just jumps right out.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So nuts. And it was like, all right, well, it looks like we got a client. But back to the wedding. Lulu's asking how Jen's been in her life, listing all of the great things that's been going on, becoming a superhero, not too shabby, becoming a new head role at this new great law firm, one of the best in the country,
Starting point is 00:15:40 not too fucking shabby either. But it all boils down to, are you dating anybody? Who's in your life? What's wrong with you? And this was a very interesting and telling exchange, not only because it kind of reflects the nature of some toxic friendships
Starting point is 00:15:56 in real life, how, you know, it could all boil down to what you don't have. But I found this to be a pretty telling illustration about, you know, modern attitudes towards women now because, you know, sometimes it's not about what you're doing and that it all boils down to who's the man in your life, you know, who do you got? And what validation do you have outside of yourself? And it's a pretty biting little commentary about how, you know, Jen can be doing all these great things, but if she doesn't have a man, than nothing.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah, it's the same too because you mentioned earlier like her, everything else is great. The She-Hulk thing's going good. The law firm thing is like incredible. Like you go anywhere else and you're like,
Starting point is 00:16:38 hey, what's going on with you? It's like, yeah, I now have a superhero. So pretty good right now. You'd be like, whoa, that's all you would talk about all night. But, you know, Lulu is only worried
Starting point is 00:16:47 about, oh, you'll find a man. She's like, oh, that's okay. You'll find a da-da-da-da-da. It's like, come on, man. Spider-Man doesn't even have a job, let alone a probably six, fig your salary at a law firm. Spider-Man's a perpetual loser, so, like,
Starting point is 00:16:59 it is what it is. He's always down bad. It's broken there. All right. So outside of that biting exchange with Lulu, and then... Guess who's here to crash the wedding? Oh, my gosh, bro. Titania is back in a modest outfit for the wedding.
Starting point is 00:17:17 One of the more modest ones that she's worn. Here to instigate Jen and basically let her know that the beef is still on. Let me say something. that's a real hater right there that's a real have you ever weasled a date
Starting point is 00:17:33 just to hate on somebody at a wedding I've never gotten a date period Steve so I don't know what you're talking about this moment we all lie about certain things but the things you lie about
Starting point is 00:17:42 I don't think that the commitment that Titania has is more petty than this because like what ultimately what it leads to is just like
Starting point is 00:17:54 another dust up and she just leaves But we'll talk about that in a minute. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute. But the thing with Titanic is like, she told her at the end of last episode, I'll see you again, Hater.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So honestly, didn't think it'd be the next weekend, but you shouldn't have been surprised. Don't make any plans. When she showed up, you're like, I mean, but she knew, right? Jen knew.
Starting point is 00:18:17 She was like, yo, she's here to bother me. She doesn't even notice, dude. Let her kick her out. She's like, no, no, no, no. It is a great extension of,
Starting point is 00:18:23 like, cartoon villainy. We're like, I'll get you. next time she-hoke and then just like, I'm at the wedding. Their next time, it's listen, when she Listen, Titania put it on wax.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I'm gonna see you in the streets. And when I see you, it's on site. We know the business. Shouldn't be surprised as how it went. Yes. And then Lulu and Titania basically gaslight her into thinking that, you know, Jen's being very unreasonable right now about somebody
Starting point is 00:18:52 who's just having fun at the wedding. After that, she needs a breather. She's going to mum. lunch down on some candied nuts. And they had to meet cute with a guy named Josh in a nice pleaded suit. Listen, Josh was looking good. He was looking tight. He was looking great.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Charming. And then immediately the vibes are ruined again as Lulu, whose staff is quitting because of how she's treating them. I love how you put that in air quotes. Well, that's how she just is like, oh, they're quitting because of how I'm treating them. And then she puts them on cleanup duty to just like. spruce up the place and take care of some, you know, empty wine glasses. Awesome move, Lulu.
Starting point is 00:19:31 That's, I imagine you showed to a wedding and they have you like, actually, this is, this is actually, you've already got me on security detail. So you may as well, I may as well clean up. Again, Steve, it's not security detail. I'll fold up some chairs. It's not security detail. It's just, I need you at my disposal at all time. At handsome disposal.
Starting point is 00:19:47 If I, if there's an op. It's actually, I was seeing, I saw this on our Facebook group. And it's, don't let them know that we read that. Well, I have to read it. It's kind of my job. Okay. Right? Like, I'm the social guy.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's kind of my job. Oh, it's not editing pods? Because they said that too. No, it's not. And shout out to Joe Scott. I want to, I want to, I'm not going to read the story, you know, wholesale. But long story short, Joe had to pay $300 to rent a tucks at the wedding, right? And the bride at that wedding hired no staff.
Starting point is 00:20:22 So he had to do all the, cleaning all the, like a whole bunch of work. Right. Right. And so he's sweaty. The whole, you spent $300 on tux. It gets messed up. You're not feeling great.
Starting point is 00:20:36 You hungry. He goes in the kitchen. He sees himself a chicken sandwich. You're like, hey, man. I'm a slide. You can just take that. You can just take that. He took the chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Halfway home. He goes a call. Hey, man. You ain't my chicken sandwich. Somebody was hot. And she, this is why, Joe, appreciate you for listening. He goes, he drops his debt off at home, he turns around,
Starting point is 00:20:58 and he gives the guy the money for the chicken sandwich. That's real. I mean, the... Was it a cash bar? Well, he doesn't mention that. He didn't get himself a cup of a beer, so maybe, maybe not. That's a, I think that's a worse sin. Here's the kicker, though.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Shortly after the wedding, his friend and the wife did get a divorce. Wow. So he just wasted $300 and some spicy chicken money. for no reason. That would have been great if somebody gave a speech that just said
Starting point is 00:21:29 we give it a year. So we cut two. Weddings are tough, man. Weddings are tough. Weddings are tough. It happens to the best of us. We cut back to the office and basically a class action
Starting point is 00:21:40 lawsuit is taking place against Mr. Immortal. Like half a dozen people are deposing themselves for multiple fraud counts that he should be in prison for. Running down the list of things that he's done,
Starting point is 00:21:55 left somebody with a child defrauded somebody for a New Orleans style wedding basically owes somebody thousands upon thousands of dollars and a multitude of other things along with this terrible divorce what's the worst thing that Mr. Immortal has done here? I think it was a funeral. I think the guy
Starting point is 00:22:16 said that he spent a whole bunch of money on a New Orleans jazz funeral for Mr. Immortal. Which, by the way, not cheap and pretty lit. Prick, I had to be fun, had to be fun. They get the whole band, you can just block off a street. Leaving the kid is tough. There's no really, you can't do that. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That's what you're odd. You gotta show up and be responsible there. That's the worst one. You can't do that. Exactly. So they basically give Mr. Immortal the business. And he decides to settle, offer up some money. I got a couple of Apple shares I bought an 81. I got a couple gold bars
Starting point is 00:22:57 From what Lady Cromwell? Which is like Okay, you've been around Mr. Immortal First of all, on the side of it, I might take this,
Starting point is 00:23:10 by the way. I mean, not a bad proposal. Like, give me a couple Apple shares from 81 and a couple of gold bars and then we call it a day.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I'm fine. Listen, a bag is a bag. But not going to cut the mustard here. we want what's owed, we want what's fair. We want exactly what we came here for. And it's out of fairness.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So, and then in between all of that, we get a name drop for the toxic online web form intelligentsia, not the coffee shop, mind you. No, no. A site for man babies, as we find out. We're already coming into this great biting commentary that the show is so very good at. And we'll see more about this later.
Starting point is 00:23:53 but what I've always loved about the show is that it's always knowing what it's up against as far as toxic online fan behavior. We see so many horrible instances of racist backlash for Lord of the Rings and all these other things that are just like, honestly, like the worst faith arguments about fandom that we already see.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But She-Hulk is always cutting that off at the pass and seeing what is basically a toxic 4chan website dedicated to hating on She-Hulk is already brilliant. What did you think about all of this? I mean, it's a mirror, right? It's just like, this is
Starting point is 00:24:35 what they know people are talking, people in those areas are talking about. People are being misogynistic. People are just being dreadful. And so even if you're watching the show to be a hater, if you're watching it to be mad. For us, it's funny because it's like, oh, I know that there are people having these conversations
Starting point is 00:24:51 in these type of forums. And now you're getting these jokes off, aha. But for them, imagine, like, you know, you're a hit or you're like, hey, watch and whatever. And you see that. And you see some of the stuff that they say. You're like, yo, I'm saying the same thing. Am I like, are they making fun of me? Like, what's the thing?
Starting point is 00:25:13 And it's like, yeah, bro, we're not laughing with you. We're laughing at you. And I think that's the best part of this thing. And so that those people are not like, yeah, bro. We knew what you're about to say. we're not letting you have that. Your dummies, we're laughing at you. Ha-ha.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I love this bit in the piece. Actually, and it's funny, too, because Intelligentsia isn't just like, you know, a Reddit knockoff. In the comics, it's like, according, it's a group compromises some of the greatest, the most sinister
Starting point is 00:25:42 minds of the earth. Which is so funny to know that these are just in cells online hating on She-Hulk. And they name that group after some of the most sinister people. It's great, man.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Which I know until, again, I only know it as a coffee shop, but it just, it's added delicious humor for me. So, so good. So good. Anyway, quick cut back to the wedding, only to find Jan making the tragic discovery that her groomsman that she will be walking down the aisle with is a deranged looking dog. Well, so here's, well, first of all, have some respect for Jonathan. Okay. All right. Jonathan clearly has been through a lot
Starting point is 00:26:23 They said they had resuscitate him that morning He had the little tongue thing He's leaking. He's leaking. He had the little tongue thing I thought was cute. That was very cute. Very cute. But even before that they were like, hey yeah, we'll make Jen do it. Yeah, you know, that's what she does. And they want her to iron the groomsman's shirts
Starting point is 00:26:40 because they were playing Mario Kart. And at that point, see, that's how I know Jen is a better human being than me. I saw I know like, you know, she was raised, right? This really is the hero's journey for Jen. Because I would have, we would have to see these hands, bro. I ain't going to hold you. Absolutely would be.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Personally, me, I wouldn't stand for that level of disrespect. So, you know, some, you know, we would have to go one way or the other, you feel me. But, Jen, she took it in stride. She was like, all right, for show. I told Lulu, I'm going to be cool this weekend. I told her I'm not going to hoke out on me straight. And she did what she had to do.
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Starting point is 00:29:36 We're going to make sure that we get everything that we need. All that alimony, all that apology, all of the sustained icon. It's honestly incredible that Mr. Immortal's real problem is that he needs to know how to face his fear, and take down the actual conflict and responsibility for his actions. Don't even need money. We just need an apology.
Starting point is 00:29:59 20 seconds sustained eye contact to his quote, that seems interminable. That's so nuts. I mean, I was thinking about, like, for her, I was like, so, you know, they're like, everybody's getting back pay. You know, everybody's getting, you know, some sort of check. And she was like, all I need are 20 seconds of eye contact. I was like, wow, first of all, you're getting fleeced.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Right. These lawyers not doing nothing for you. You're leaving money on the table. Yeah, you're leaving stacks on the table. Get yourself a better lawyer. And two, sometimes that's all it takes, man.
Starting point is 00:30:33 They say that pride doesn't cost a lot, but it might cost a couple of OG Apple shares. It might. It's a couple trillion dollars you're leaving on the table, but is that what you want? Really is great. Really speaks to the type of lover
Starting point is 00:30:45 that Mr. Immortal is because, you know, he is around for a long time and really not a short time. What are you inferring there, Steve? You know, he's leaving people out in the cold. Just come on and say it. He's selfish.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I'm saying it right now. He's selfish. He's a skitticat. He's afraid of conversation. I understand. Sometimes there are conversations you don't want to have, but, you know, as adults as people, you know, who, you know, again, he's seen a lot of stuff. At some point, you've got to be like, listen, you've got to have the tough conversation. You got to.
Starting point is 00:31:18 You know who else had the tough conversation? Who had the tough conversation? The booker for the individual. Chattable Hulk DJ Enchatable This guy needs more kicks
Starting point is 00:31:30 Here's a thing Here's the thing And here's the part I can't I can't let stand by He actually had air horns He did It's just a button pal
Starting point is 00:31:41 You can just press the Pum This is where you You add the air horns DJ Enchadable Hulk is about authenticity This is about integrity Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And he's a man that doesn't fake the funk. For sure. What happens with there's no more error in the horns, Steve? That's when you get the soundboard out. You don't think that he has like six underneath that booth that he's ready to go for? Here's what I'm saying, man. But you don't need you to do all that. Like, I understand Chad is with the extras, right?
Starting point is 00:32:09 He's going to do the most, you know, at all times. I understand that. But there needs to be a level of decorum, okay? Air horns, not really the vibe. I'm like, the actual airhorns, not really what I'm looking for. I need your focus to be on the music, you know what I'm saying? Okay. It's 10.30.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Turn off the classics. I need me some two chains. I need me some ice spice. Ice. That's rapper alive. That's what you're saying. I need real music, Steve. Here's a thing.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Here's a thing, right? I understand that Chad is going to do his thing. And honestly, it seemed like, it seemed like Jen was having a blast, an absolute blast. Sure? she was putting what $12 a drink you know what I mean for the heavy poor we'll get to the criminal offense that is the cash bar but Lulu that's you're probably like what are you paying for this
Starting point is 00:33:03 like the venue is probably a lot but Jesus outside of the air horns look like Chad was putting on a show man he was he was he'd have a great time uh but who wasn't having a great time is Jen because she's sloshed right now and kind of drowned under sorrows Josh pulls up have a little talk Jen, not feeling great. She wanted to win.
Starting point is 00:33:24 She wanted to be here for herself. And boy, have we not all been here. You wanted to have a great weekend. You wanted to show yourself off a little bit. You were having your own self-confidence boost. And you just get cut down at every corner. Stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Stuff. We have all been there. And I don't think, I don't think Jen has been more relatable until this moment. Because, no, really, because there's so many things that she, She's getting right and doing well for herself, and she genuinely wants to have this new life that's set out for herself as a superhero, as a big shot lawyer, and at every turn,
Starting point is 00:34:02 there seems to be just something that's cutting her down, and it fucking sucks. Yeah, no, that's, that's, I remember, like, we were talking about what happened last week where the guys came through,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and she was like, hey, we were wrong with you because you were a She-Hulk, and that's tough. And then this week, this episode she was like cool i'm gonna go there bichi hulke come do this and they're like ah kind of need you to be jen and so you're like stuck between these two worlds that you didn't ask to be you know stuck in and now the way people see you is depending on like which you know form
Starting point is 00:34:37 you take and yeah it's it's got to be tough because you're not you're not you can never make everyone happy you know and that's even before you've even figured out for yourself you know i mean like it's just impossible to satisfy everybody and that's got to be tough for her and what Josh like very sweetly reassures her that like you know it doesn't matter if you're She Hulk I don't need to meet her like I think you're pretty great
Starting point is 00:35:01 and it's you know really really and with the beautiful little bow on that moment Jen's got a puke which is a perfect time for Titania to be like We should fight now. Oh, surprise.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Surprise, I'm here to fight. Way to pick a fair fight. And basically, Jan's like really struggling to find the motivation to be like, really now. Like, we've got to do this now. Wanted no parts. Once no parts. She can barely, she's seeing two Titanians. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Right? She has no interest in fighting. And even to the point where she's like, all right, I don't really want to fight you. But since we're going to do it, let's do it. and Titania just like... She's got a little bunyan swelling and then she can't really do it. She can't swing.
Starting point is 00:35:53 She's getting knocked all over. She's trying to punch. She's in the floor. It's just not going down. She thought it would. Which is great because you'd think that like a punch from Titania in your human form
Starting point is 00:36:03 would actually like explode your rib cage but I guess not. Turns out that if you have even a little bit of Hulk in you, you're fine. Well, I mean, I think also Titania hadn't been she's not locked in. You know what I'm saying? Maybe she's had a couple of,
Starting point is 00:36:16 a couple of G&Ts. You know, maybe she's a little, like, you know, I don't know, you think, I'm a little saucy. I mean, like, I don't, the same other person who would be, like, locked in, I'm like, all right, I'm going to throw this cross,
Starting point is 00:36:25 you feel me, or like, I'm going to hit this thing, you know? I mean, maybe she is, but it didn't, it didn't quite look like it, because once, uh,
Starting point is 00:36:33 once Jen figured it out, it was, uh, it was looking mighty packwashish to me, bruh, it didn't look all that clean to me. Before you break down this fight, have you ever been at a wedding
Starting point is 00:36:44 that's gotten a little confrontation, No. No, Nigerians. Our weddings are always peaceful. It's always great. Good vibes the whole night. No beef, no nothing. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yes. No, no this uncle snubbed so-and-so and they got a... Nah, we're not here for all that. All right, great. Again, because groomsmen, they'd be acting like police. Yes, you squash it before it even starts. Exactly. Okay, well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Fight ensues. Jen summons the Hulk. And I'm surprised that there wasn't more damage. to this venue, if I'm honest. If you can, you know, squash a couple cobblestones, that's fine. The fact that this dance floor wasn't blown to smithereens is honestly
Starting point is 00:37:25 a small miracle in and of itself. I will say pink on She Hulk, Jan, really not her color. I don't know, she just looks like a... I think She Hulk looks good in any color. Well, all right, well, aren't you better than me? Shoot. We'll be right back, folks.
Starting point is 00:37:43 She's a beautiful woman. How dare you? I think this fight was funny, but like it kind of served, like, it served little to no purpose. It kind of just went out with a thud. Like, I'm not going to dunk on this. It certainly didn't make the episode bad, but it kind of just like,
Starting point is 00:38:03 fell a little flat. Well, no, he's just thing. And that's what I was mentioned with Titanian. She ain't got what it takes to match up a shield. Like, this is not, she's not on a shield level in terms of, like, what you want in a fight. Or balance and coordination, really.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Like, I genuinely thought she could have broken her neck with that fall she took. Remember, episode one, she's out there with Hulk. She spent like weeks out there learning how to do this thing. This is, Titania is just not on our level. So when she, you know, fix it out, she's like, all right, for sure, this is simple. I don't have to, like, waste all my energy on my time with this thing. You know what I mean? And so that's why Titanian, like, you know, literally slips on ice and breaks her teeth.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Like, that's how it ends. the fight because Jen is really like Titania's no match for her so Titania is being real silly trying to take Jen that's not what you want my G
Starting point is 00:38:55 and with a little rascals-esque swapping of veneers Tatsiana embarrassed simply leaves she she kindly fucks off with her cake
Starting point is 00:39:11 and leaves yeah she can't see you know that the cake taken. That's the love of the disrespect that's just foul. Well, it's not a returned pasta maker, but I think that you can kind of leave with a cake. I don't know, man. Our guy left with a chicken
Starting point is 00:39:26 sandwich, she can't leave with a cake? Depends on the cake, that looked like a really dense chocolate cake. Right. Maybe it was yellow cake inside. Oh, man. Now we got to talk about wedding cakes now. Okay, all right. What's your wedding cake going to be like? I don't know. I'm not a big frosting guy.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Like, not crazy frosting. Don't like slather it. Okay, like it's just an even ratio. Of course. I like the sponginess of the inside. What flavor? I don't like, yellow cake isn't exactly like a wedding cake type of thing.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It could be. It could be. I love yellow cake. I do. I do. I really do. But it's got to have like the white frosting probably. So like maybe, I don't know, white chocolate could be good.
Starting point is 00:40:08 White chocolate? Yellow cake? That's pretty good. See, for me, Steve, I'm, look, let me just, let me peel back a kind of a little bit. Sure. I've got my wedding all planned out. I've got everything.
Starting point is 00:40:18 to the letter. No exactly what's going to happen when it's going to happen. Can't wait until we tie the knot. Oh, dude, it's going to be exciting. See, here's the thing, right? The cake is tough, you know, because I do want to make everybody happy.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It was up to me, at my wedding, we'd have Costco cake. I'm not joking. What's the entree? The hot dogs? Listen, listen, listen. I'm not even, I don't care what y'all say. If you don't want to come from you on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:40:44 if you want to say, you know, I want to say crazy things, Costco keeps the cost low. And every year, every year for our birthday, I gotta have a Costco cake. I'm not playing. So, playing into the economy of the wedding, it's still open bar, right?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Of course. Okay, okay. I have some decor. I mean, it's not the thing about, like, being cheap, I just love the flavor. You talk about, like, too much icing, like, the Costco cat icing is, like, literally my favorite thing in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:41:10 That's fair. That's entirely fair. And so, like, you know, that's probably not going to happen, but if it was, like, completely 100% up to me, I would now. I can't do a fond it. You know what I'm saying? But something like yellow and white, I think, to your point, that probably works the best for me.
Starting point is 00:41:23 But at the same time, like, I might, we might just, like, in the back, have, like, a little, like, you know, half sheet. Entirely fine. I got to have it, man. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. I like buttercream. What can I say? I'm a buttercream fiend.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Well, that's a wrap on our wedding. Our wedding, Steve. I didn't know that we were getting married. I mean, you don't know it yet. We don't know. There's a lot of time. There's a lot of time. There's a lot of time, baby.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Come on. All right. We're back in the office, and we're taking a stroll down the intelligentsia's forums, and boy, does it not look pretty. It looks nasty, dude. They log into what can only be described as a very toxic chat room. Just running down a bit of the memes that we see here, all dedicated to hating on Shee Hulk. Top post, how do we kill Shee Hulk?
Starting point is 00:42:14 That's tough. Real tough there. You can't do that. all right some of the other hateful things that we have hashtag cancel she hulk when you a hulk but you still dumb I love how that that said how that said someone just shoot she hulk oh my god and then the best meme section the best meme section uh when you a hulk but you still dumb
Starting point is 00:42:42 wants equality still wants you to pay for dinner where's yoga pants mad when you look guilty Just some really gross stuff. It's really, really gross stuff. It's really bad. How do we swat Shee Hulk? Eight reasons why Sheeulk needs to die? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:42:57 It's dark. And this is why I love this show so much because... Not this exact reason. No, not this exact reason. So Mallory and Nikki are looking at this stuff. And Nikki's first instinct is to call Jedmini. Yo, they're seeing this stuff. Da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And Mallory was like, no, hold on. This stuff is legitimately damaged. This stuff is hard to look at. If we just show her this, it, like, for sure, will affect her. And we don't want that for her. Like, she's just coming to our own. Let's not tell her this.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Let's just keep, let's monitor this ourselves. And, you know, keep Jen out the loop for her own sanity. Smash cut to Nikki. Yo, man, they was talking reckless about you online. Beefing online. They were saying you was, you was, man. And I'm supposed to respect your peace and not give you stress. But I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Fuck that. I'm mad. It was so good. It was so good. I don't think I've had a friend defend me for the sake of their peace. Like this before. I don't know if this is a great friend move, but she's like, all right, well, call me. Yeah, I mean, no.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I mean, like, look, if they, like, I mean, like, the way they talk about Shilke is, like, reckless. I don't know how, you know, if somebody was, you know, being that mean to me online like that. I don't know how I take it. Well, here's what I won't do. I won't call you to tell you that they're doing it. I won't call you to be like... Yeah, they're shitting on you for this one, Joe.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, yo, Steve, they was calling you names in the Reddit group, dog. It was nasty, bro. It was... Yeah, I mean, just let that slide, you know what I'm saying? Like, you were saying a good day. Now, I ruined it. Right too hard for each to shield. Come on.
Starting point is 00:44:41 No, I went and ruined it. No, like, I get, like, Nicky's trying to, like, again, the juxtaposition of those two scenes are hilarious. And I understand that Nikki's trying to be a friend. But, God, at least she's just trying to have, like, a nice little thing with Josh. She's trying to search from fries. And now she got to check her voicemail. We take a-calling her names and stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:57 We come on to a very well-lit gazebo with just a plate of fries with some ketchup. Separate plate for the ketchup. I'm fine with that. And we've got a little bit of the cake left on the side. Not too bad. I think that's a pretty good little dinner. Great little end to your night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Very cute. We hope to see more of Josh. Good on you, buddy. Good Josh. Good guy. And then. Right before the credits roll, we get a little sneak peek into a scientific computer screen with a bunch of gobbly-gook graphs and charts and blood graphs and all these things. Blue-formed hands taking syringes out.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Slated for Jen Walters and a blood-drawing mechanism. What could this be? And then credits roll. Dut-da-dun! I... What do we think is happening here, Joe? Somebody. I mean, we saw it in...
Starting point is 00:45:49 one of the previous episodes, somebody was trying to get her DNA and it was not working and so they needed more, they needed more power. Need more power. Do we think that this is our little taste into possibly getting a red Hulk down the line? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Could this be... I think that's a good call? Who do we, who do we, what organization do you? Could this be the intelligentsia? Because we also see the like small little icon emoji that also is shared on the intelligentsia website. Could these be one of the main villains that we alluded to before. Maybe that's where all the evil guys met and that's where, well, remember, when that episode
Starting point is 00:46:24 where she's fighting off the guys, they have a boss, right? They mention a boss so they have to go to. Exactly. And so, who interested in who that boss is. And we also know, we'll get more detail about this later, but Daredevil's supposed to show up. Like, maybe there's that connection. I, you know, don't have the inside.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I don't have the third eye to, you know, make a prediction. But at the same time, like, I feel like those stories. lines will wrap up together nicely. And so I think they're all involved. They just don't know what is the linchpin that brings them all together. I completely agree. And then that's our episode. That's what we got.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Looking ahead, what do we think about this episode? Good episode. And, you know, this, there's only three episodes left. So it's going to be a run, I believe, to finish the season. We're going to get a lot of, fun action and just Jen and Daredevil lowering her it up, you know. And like you said, the end of this episode showcased a little bit of danger coming Jen's way.
Starting point is 00:47:32 So I'm interested to see where that goes and hopefully, I mean, I'm sure Jen will make it out fine, but like you said, does that do, are we setting up a Red Hulk? Are we setting up, you know, we got the Thunderbolt cast, right? Yes, the roster is formidable. formidable who said we can't add a couple more people I think we got it we can't add to that bench It's a little going for people So there's a lot happening
Starting point is 00:47:56 Can't wait to see where it goes Also there's a big yellow devil in the room That we're not addressing The talk of much a promo And much a Disney press release Daredevil ain't shown up yet We got three episodes to go clock's ticking Again we just imagined them
Starting point is 00:48:09 What if we all collectively Imagine that devil's going to be in the show Again I don't know like what This would have been a great hoax that Disney pulls on us that, you know, I think would probably get everybody off the boat
Starting point is 00:48:22 to think that Daredevil would never show up again. But no, we see that, not to spoil too much, but we see that Charlie Cox's IMDB listing is listed for three episodes.
Starting point is 00:48:32 So if we are to believe that, then he is likely to show up and stay until the end of this season, which would be a real treat. I would absolutely love that. I think him and Jan would be an absolutely cracking team and we could always assume
Starting point is 00:48:49 that there could be a bit of chemistry there. Man, this man. I'm sick of this man. I'm sick of Daredevil. Every time he on screen, he's charming, charming somebody. He's too handsome.
Starting point is 00:49:00 He's too handsome. Charlie Cox, you're too handsome. I think also we have quite a bit of excitement ahead and I'm loving it. I think this is a great show and I'm still on board. Jomey, do you have any final thoughts for us?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Man, my final thoughts. lots of this. I'm ready. I'm ready for season two, ready for 100 years of She-Hulk. Bring it. Disney, I know you're listening. Kevin Faggy,
Starting point is 00:49:26 always been a big fan of the Ring of Verse. I know that you listen to every episode that we publish. Appreciate your support. Appreciate your listening. We need more. She-Hulk, man. Like, bring it. I'm tapped in.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I'm ready. Couldn't agree more. That is a wrap from Inted Edition. Thank you also to our intrepid producer, Spidey Kern. Jonathan Kerma, our great man indeed. An additional production
Starting point is 00:49:53 from the great Arjuna Ramgopal. Thank you, Junior Minz, once again for rocking with us. Stay tuned again. We will be back very soon. Also, don't forget, Ben Lindbergin Associates
Starting point is 00:50:05 will be back next week for all of your She-Hulk needs. And then Tuesday, don't forget, House of Our will be back once again with their deep dive into the House of the Dragon. Jomi,
Starting point is 00:50:17 Parting words. Love you guys. Can't wait for you guys to hear this. We can't wait for you guys to hear more of us. Love you. We'll see you soon again. Shout out to our producer, wonderful guy, aka Storm Kermann.
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