The Ringer-Verse - ‘Stars Wars: Visions Volume 2’ Instant Reactions | Mint Edition

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Steve and Jomi are back to help you celebrate May the Fourth Be With You by diving deep into ‘Star Wars: Visions Volume 2’ and handing out awards for some of their favorite animation styles, chara...cters, fights, and more from the volume. Hosts: Jomi Adeniran and Steve Ahlman Producer: Jonathan Kermah Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 You may find this hard to believe, but 60 songs that explain the 90s. America's favorite poorly named music podcast is back with 30 more songs and 120 songs total. I'm your host, Rob Harvilla, here to bring you more trude musical analysis, poignant nostalgic reveries, crude personal anecdotes, and rad special guests, all with even less restraint than usual. Join us once more on 60 Saws That Explain the 90s, starting Wednesday, May 17th, on spot. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tramphia offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Tramphia is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks. If your doctor decides that you can self-inject trumphia, proper training is required. Trimphia is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to stay. severely active Crohn's disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis. Serious allergic reactions, increased risk of infections or lower ability to fight them, and liver problems may occur. Before treatment, get checked for infections and tuberculosis. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or need a vaccine. Explore what's possible. Ask your
Starting point is 00:01:23 doctor about Tramphia today. Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Trimfairadio.com. This episode is brought to by Whole Foods Market. Spring is here, so celebrate it with fresh, juicy, seasonal produce and some very tasty limited time flavors. New Whole Foods, Market Peach, Apricot, Rose, Italian soda. Perfect for a picnic or brunch, as is their trending mango Yuzu chantilly cake. But if you're on the go, new 365 strawberry pretzels make a great sweet snack. That sounds delicious. Get savings with yellow sale signs storewide and everyday low prices on 365 brand items. Enjoy the fresh flavors of spring. Save at Whole Foods Market. Hello and welcome into the ringer verse. The ringers Nexus podcast feed for all things
Starting point is 00:02:28 fandom. And welcome back to Mint Edition, the once-in-a-while podcast about all the fandom that you just can't live without. I'm your host, Steve Alman, senior producer. at the ringer. And joining me as always my co-host, Ringer's social producer, Lord of the Memes, an explainer of the Midnight, boys. He just got back from murdering an old woman in a cave.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It's Joey Adirondon. May the 4th be with you, Steve. May the 4th be with you as well. Our most sacred holiday. The most sacred of nerd holidays. Listen, the old lady attacked me first. That's all I got to say. That's fine. She had a saber. I had a rock.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I had to make a choice. I had to make a choice. She's probably senile at this point. She's probably lost. It was scary. I had to make a call. What if she was just as scared of you as you were of her? I mean, she probably was. I am black.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Wow. It's tough. You know, I mean, it's true. We are back to talk to you on this May the 4th, be withing you. To talk about Star Wars Visions, Volume 2 of Star Wars Visions, the follow-up to the acclaimed compilation animated series. on Disney Plus right now. But before we begin, programming reminders, be sure to check out yesterday's House of R
Starting point is 00:03:43 on their Troops course, the Magical Weapons and Blades series. It's great. It's going to be four and a half hours of the best things that they've ever talked about. And tomorrow, the Midnight Boys are going to be giving you
Starting point is 00:03:56 their instant reactions to Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Quick preview with half of them right now. Jomi, are you excited? I still have tears thinking about that movie in my chest. It was happy tears. It was happy tears, sad tears, all the tears.
Starting point is 00:04:10 All the tears. All the tears. And on Monday, guess what, House of Art? We got a deep dive coming at you for a one Guardians of the Galaxy volume three as well. It's going to be another four hours. I hope you got the time. It's going to be a four hour, not like just four hours on the first 30 minutes alone. It's great.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And guess what? If you got something to do, we're going to be right there with it. Talking about Guardians of the Galaxy. It's going to be a great week. So, before we begin, our friendly neighborhood spoiler warning for let's just go ahead and say all of Star Wars. I was going to say Star Wars Visions
Starting point is 00:04:42 1 and 2, but we're going to do Star Wars Visions 1 and 2 and all of Star Wars because we got a lot to talk about today. Between the original trilogy, the sequel trilogy, the Pico trilogy, all the legend stuff. The desilogies. Amando, Clone Wars, even the rise of resistance ride.
Starting point is 00:04:56 If you don't want spoilers for that, please go on the ride and then come back and listen to the podcast because we're going to go deep on the spoilers. Kerm, give us one thing from the Star Wars canon that we're going to spoil right now. Don't do this to me, man. Don't do this.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You could have just said one thing. It could have been anything. We're going to spoil where he says, I'm your father. That's what. Oh. Oh. All right, let's go, Jomey. Star Wars Visions, volume two, the follow-up season to the critically acclaimed animated shorts.
Starting point is 00:05:30 They had a litany of great studios come to us this season. last year we had a great many Japanese studios doing predominantly anime based and anime aesthetics for volume one now we've got a bunch of international studios doing not only anime but stop motion animation 2D animation 3D animation and everything in between what did you think of this second season overall and what do you think is this an interesting change of
Starting point is 00:06:06 What did it have on this mind this season? Oh, I love the switchup. You know, you got to keep things fresh. And I think this volume really did that with all the studios that they got from an array of places across the globe. I think, like, a lot of the stories, you know, they, I think all the stories centered on, like, a girl or a woman. And I think that was also very cool. And so it was just like a really fun, really wide-ranging, really open season of volume. of television. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yes. You could say that volume is one of my favorite things to say this episode. So when I took a look back at most of season one, and I want to say that predominantly all of the stories that we got last season, focused on Jedi-like strife and conflict, and kind of like the lore of light side versus dark side. With this, we have not only some of that, but a lot more varying degrees of storytelling, focusing on a lot of like kind of the normal people,
Starting point is 00:07:10 the regular Joes, if it were. I'm really fascinated at the idea of kind of getting a lot more of different influential voices and kind of like diverse storytelling ideas that come from not only the ideas of Jedi, but kind of the normal people that make a tick. Not to say that we and-ord it, this season, but we got a lot of cool and interesting new stories that I think you're going
Starting point is 00:07:39 to debate me on one or two of them. I was going to say, I mean, like, we'll get into, you know, the non-Jedai Jedi of it all, you know, sometime during this podcast. But I, the, and this goes back to even season one, the chiber crystal mythology is one one of the great things that this series keeps playing with, and I love it every single time. Well, here's the thing. I think that the best thing that we came from season one and two, of this, volumes one and two of this, is the idea that the moreover concept of visions,
Starting point is 00:08:12 like the framework that we have here is that none of this is canon. None of this is like established chapter and verse what we need to be establishing as the rule and law of Star Wars. We can play around with a lot of stuff. We can kind of twist and have fun with a lot of things. play around and twist, they, they smash Cannon, like repeatedly. They absolutely do. In terms of like, not even the Khyber Christus, but what Jedi and Sith can do.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And it's great. I love it. It's like taking something that we always thought was in a box and, like, the rules and sending it to, like, literally another universe. And that's what makes it so cool. In a world where a lot of Star Wars is afraid to have fun with itself and afraid to turn things on its head at the, you know, behest and, you know, consequence of a lot of people getting angry online. This is kind of the playground where people seem to be okay with people,
Starting point is 00:09:09 just, you know, throwing that to the wind and having fun with it. I wish that we were allowed to have more fun with this in a bit more of the mainline canon of Star Wars. But if we have it like this, I'm glad that it's here. And listen, man, toys got to get sold. People got to, you know, these Disney Plus subs, ain't going to sell themselves. Well, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They got me sold on this season. And we are going to be giving us. out some much-deserved awards for this volume of Star Wars Visions. Let's run down these categories and then we'll talk about these shorts one by one. Our awards for it, and we're going to be handing these out as we talk about them, are best animation, best story, best new character, most worthy of a sequel or film adaptation, best art direction, and by that we mean like best overall look of the shorts. Animation can go with like the best fluid movement, but this is like the overall look of the short.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And then we have best new force ability and best fight. And with that, let's start and talk about our first episode on the docket today, Sith by El Jury Studios, directed by Rodrigo Blas. This was cool, man. This was a good way to start. I enjoyed this one a lot. Quick little synapsis that we have here. Former Sith apprentice turned painter attempts to live a life of peace
Starting point is 00:10:35 while attempting to finish her masterpiece with the guidance of the force. I think this is a good way to kind of start the new color palette and animation style sampler of what we're going to get for this season. We have a lot of playing with color. We have a lot of great 3D animation
Starting point is 00:10:54 with like brush stroke technology that we get to see. This is from a Spanish-led studio, the director Blas partnered with Guillermo del Toro to develop the award-winning series Troll Hunters, and he served as creative director for an animation studio in Paris.
Starting point is 00:11:15 In 2021, he created El Juri Studios in Madrid with his partner, and he also wrote and directed 2009's award-winning short film Alma. So that's his pedigree that he's coming into this. What did you think of this first one? Was it a good first start? This was an excellent opener. You know, like you mentioned, it drops you right into the world.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And you're like, all right, we're back in visions where these, like, these shorts are very different from anything we've seen in the Star Wars continuity to begin with. And even, even like from the jump, the art is gorgeous. You're like, you feel like you're in a painting, you know? And I was like, aw, I blocked in. You see the little droid homie come through. and he's like, you know, kind of like two-day, three-deer-like, oh man, this is this is nice.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I think overall, the short and like the message of like, you know, there's light and dark, you know, inside of us was awesome. And I really, really like that. So interestingly enough, both this volume and volume one started off with a computer-generated
Starting point is 00:12:24 CG short. The duel from last season, and Sith for this one. This one was based on like a warring kind of like faction of like a rogue Sith Jedi that is kind of just finding her way. Not even necessarily going to the light,
Starting point is 00:12:41 but kind of just finding out balance. She just trying to paint. Figuring out herself and all of these things and having the painting be a metaphor for her inner struggle. Like there's darkness inside of her. We wake up and we see her bathing into like a pool of black
Starting point is 00:12:54 with her cute little ball droid that we love so much. But when we get to the conflict within her, we meet her former master and the assassin droids that she sends with them, then the color shift to all, like, reds and ambers and oranges. And then she's being chased in this awesome little, like, wheel motorcycle thing that was really cool. We get a lot of great animation and fluidity. I think, like, this would, this would have been close to give best animation to, for. for me, but I've got a couple of other picks that I wanted to give this out to. I don't think this is going to get any awards for me for this one, but I really, really liked it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 This was a good start. What did you think, Jomey? I'm giving this one best art direction because the fight at the end with how it looked with the brushstrokes. Like I said, like it looked like a painting, like they were, you know, fighting with with, like with a brush. It really came off well. again, not my absolute favorite for art direction or anything like that, but again, very creative, very solid first start. I love that.
Starting point is 00:14:03 That I very much enjoyed. I enjoyed a lot. Let's go on to the next one. Screechers Reach by Cartoon, directed by Paul Young, a group of orphan younglings go on a dangerous adventure to find out the mysteries of Screechers Reach. So Paul Young, quick backstory, Paul Young is a co-founder of Cartoon at the IFTA and Oscar winner and BAFTA nominee. He produced an animated feature such as my father's dragon, Wolf Walker's Secret of the Kells,
Starting point is 00:14:33 one of my favorite animated movies, Song of the Sea, and Breadwinner, as well as the TV series including Puffin Rock, Gorg Van Danglo, and Viking Skull. Now, this is an Irish studio based in 2D animation, follows a, pair of three younglings that are working in a factory under terrible conditions, an opening shot that pans up with like a beds on top of beds on top of beds and the factories. Yeah, the factories. And then that it reminded me of the 1920s film Metropolis that it's just like this massive like vertical shot of just like children working and like these massive tall factory structures
Starting point is 00:15:16 and then they leave out into this like black chasm of smoke pyres. factories and it's bleak and gorgeous. So we find these three kids that are going on more or less a mission from our main character that is getting like this quest to see what is out in Screechers Reach. It has a, it has probably one of my favorite endings of these shorts.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And this is up there for one of my favorite ones. Both of you and Kerm are looking at me like I'm crazy. Jemmy, what did you think of this? What did you think of this? Overall, you know, well done. I did enjoy the story and, like, you know, how it got to that, the ending, right? So now you got to hear me, hear me good, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Can't leave your homies out there like that. For the dark side, that's nuts. You can't do that. You can't do that. That's just not how that goes. You can't, how you supposed to justify that? You know what I'm saying? Hey, listen, we're going to, we're finally going to escape.
Starting point is 00:16:19 We've living in squalid this whole time. We're going to get to freedom. Bet, I'm gonna see y'all. Let's go. Oh, man, so I got a call from the, from the, to SIF. My dark mother. They said they need me. I know we're supposed to rock together.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And I know that my homie, he said that if you find something, you should do it. This is, you know, clearly evil. But I got to think about me right now. You feel me? That's crazy. Yeah. That's nuts. It's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You can't do that. I can't like that slide. I can't like that slide. I mean, you know, the Sith, they're not exactly. the do-gooters here. And I genuinely like this because this plays into the great idea of
Starting point is 00:17:00 the seduction of the dark side. And I really, really like this story. This is, like, the idea that to entice a youngling, to entice a kid, to join the dark side, you've got to have to think that, like, this test, this great thing that she can
Starting point is 00:17:16 earn through getting out of this life is something that's within side of her the whole time, and it's something that through her perseverance, through her guile, she can earn. And she's determined to do that. The kids are like, we've got all that we have. Like, that's the thing that we need.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I'm not saying that she's right to do this. I'm not. I like the idea of the image that comes down of this Sith Lord that looks clearly evil, but like in a weird way, welcoming to this kid, I'm weirdly, like, intrigued as to how this was seducing this child to think that this is a better life, to let her abandon those kids. Hey, man, so literally, hey, can I bring my friends?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Nah, man, you got to stay where they are. They got to be broke. They got to, they got to die. I'm sorry. And she's like, well, you understand, right? And, like, she doesn't like the decision that she's made. And she still makes it. That's not.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And that's how Sith Lords are born. She just gives her the lightsaber that she used to kill an old lady with. Man, that, okay, so that part, that part I was nuts, you know, because she's trying to escape. And at this point, you don't know, right, that it's, like, super, like, she's evil, you know, or she's going to the dark side to be evil. It's just like she's trying to escape the mountain. And the depression comes up with the Red Saber, and you're like, oh, no, she got to defeat the Siff, oh God, and she, you know, used the rock to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And then she takes the saber and like, oh, no, man, you're not going to kill the old lady, are you? You're not going to do that. And then just, fom, I was like, oh, no. She tried to kill me. Again, like, we can argue self-defense, but like, you know what I'm saying? Once the saber is red, you got to understand. The thing that I thought was a ghost or a ghoul or a thing that I could, that is like some sort of, like, crazy entity with a light sense. Come on. That's curtains.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Do I, would you, like, I don't know, again, I'm not, I was in that situation personally. I don't know what I would do, but I think I would let the old lady walk. I'm sorry, it's an old lady. No, she's, because she's grabbing the lightsaber. You got to, come on. I don't know, man. See, and here's the thing, you would be, you would be a target for the SIF, bro. I just like the, I like sad stories.
Starting point is 00:19:45 You absolutely. That's what I do. That's a SIF right there. I know. I just like sad story. I like the appeal of what turns somebody dark. And what can, you know, change that? Don Vader could turn you with like a ham sandwich and two tickets to a Cubs game.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I promise you. Well, I mean, is it this year? What are my seats like? He'd be like, hey, man, we got you some great seats at Wrigley. All you got to do is kill a couple younglings. He'd be like, how many younglings are we? All right, are we getting Rizzo back? Are we?
Starting point is 00:20:10 All right, come on. We'll think about it. All right, well, no awards for this one for me just yet. This came in high. This looked gorgeous. I really, really liked the design of this new Sith Lord. it looked both haunting and kind of beautiful, but not really going to take the cake just yet.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Can't leave your homies behind. Can't leave your homies behind. I'm not with it. Can't leave your homies behind. All right. Next one, In the Stars by punk robot directed by Gabriel Osoro.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Two sisters who are the last of their kind, fight for survival, and when an imperial force takes their means of life, they fight back. Jomi, talk to me. I love this one. This one really spoke. to me, okay, you know, not only because, you know, environment, you know, a climate change,
Starting point is 00:20:56 got to fight climate change, but also as an older brother, as an older sibling. Sure, yeah. I don't, everybody listen out there, if you have a younger sibling, you know this. You've lived. Of which I do. This, right? You be in there, you be like, hey, sister, brother, do not do this thing. Just don't do it, you know, relax, calm down.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Don't worry about it. flash forward however long they do it and now you as the oldest sibling have to bail them out or have to help them fix it and you just you're like you're doing it out of love right but the whole time you like talk i i i i told you not to like what's wrong with you you know what's saying you angry but at the same time there's a love there and i really i really enjoyed that coming through in this this short i really i really liked it i liked the idea from a cultural standpoint that the culture that we're introduced to with these two kids, they believe that their mom is back in the stars
Starting point is 00:21:57 and that her spirit is watching over them and stuff like that. But they're given her mother's strength and like, they don't know what the force is, but they know that her mother was powerful. They know that she had some sort of energy about her that helped fight back the empire. And I like the idea of like the, of like the concept of the force,
Starting point is 00:22:20 not being the force as we know it, but just nature, but like an energy, some unknown thing to a tribe or culture that doesn't even have a word for it yet. That to me, I think, is the best strongest part of this. That and I think that the stop motion animation is gorgeous. Oh, I agree.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I might be inclined to give this best art direction because when we get to the imperial water facility, I loved how the Imperial Troopers had like this fur cloak along the sides of them. I like their little helmets, and I like the redesign of a lot of how the troopers from like the upper class were designed by comparison. They get capes.
Starting point is 00:23:07 The other ones get like these little, those little like fox coats. It's cool. I think I'm going to give it to somewhere it's somewhere else, but this is like second place for me. I think the story was good. I don't think it really like sang to me because it kind of felt a little... This one that's not the one that sings to you. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But we're going to get to that. So when... I think when it came to the ending, it was very nice, it was very clean and everything, but I think for the most part, I was just a little... like a little... taken aback by how...
Starting point is 00:23:44 Not hokey, but I think just very by the book, the ending. By the book, man, you watch movies, man. You got, it's like, you know, you're seeing Farn Gully. You know I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Nature always wins. Nature always wins. Nature always wins.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And that's beautiful, and we love it. It's great. I loved how poetic it was where, you know, the mother and the mother died because she was went solo again and ATS. Yes. And then the sisters held hands. And, I mean, they, you know, the 18. ST was coming toward them, but in reality, they were just trying to use that as a distraction to, you know, get the water to crush everybody.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But, you know, that mirror image between them was like, it was really nice. I really enjoyed the story. I love the idea of reaching out to your sister and grabbing her with the force and then bringing her back in. That was very great. If you have younger siblings, you'd know all too well. If I had the force as an older brother, oh my gosh. You'd be snatching my brother. Come here, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You are not going to that water for the same. What are you going now? I mean, again, like, just to see her, like, turn around, look at commotion, put the telescope and just see her sister's going. That's cool. I just hit the side. Like, I know that side. I've lived that side, right? I think it was good.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I really enjoyed it in the stars. Props to Gabriel Roso. I forgot to say this at the beginning, but Gabriel's short film, Bear's story, became the first Latin American project to win the Oscar for Best Animated Short. at the Oscars in 2016. So props to them and an amazing, amazing short. Moving on, episode four, I am your mother, directed by Ardman animations, sorry, by Ardman animations directed by Magdalena Osanaska,
Starting point is 00:25:34 a stop motion short studio from Drumroll, please. The studio that brought you Wallace and Gromit. Cheese, grommet. Cheese. Cheese. Young pilot is off to spectate a race hosted by Wedge Antilles. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Let a pool. To usher in the new class of star pilots when her rival taunts her and her mother and her mom joins in to race the family RV in a race for the ages. Jomi, this is going to get me some awards. But what did you think about? I am your mother.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I mean, this is far away the funnest one. Like, just in terms of the content, in terms of the visual gags, this one made me laugh the most. And this was just like a, I don't want to say a thrill ride from getting the end, but in terms of like the gags and the jokes, like I was just like enjoying myself the entire way. An absolute joy from start to finish. I don't think I've seen as many visual gags in a single 10 minutes in Star Wars
Starting point is 00:26:40 than anything else. Like, just to turn little things on their head to make a Mandalorian helmet just like a little, like, opera mask for welding. Yeah, that was fun. And then you turn what is essentially an R2D2 into a dog, a slinky dog, Z1. And there's so many little patches on her backpack.
Starting point is 00:27:00 The character style is so indicative of Wallace and Gromond. And it's so, so friendly and welcome to me. I love it so much. What is Wed Gentile's doing there, bro? Being an absolute, like, he's kind of like a, I think he's like an influencer here. Well, he was like, hey, come donate to the Wedgantilly's retirement fund. I'm like, bro, I hear you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I get that bag, man. He said, I'm cool off this, man. Is the Wedget Entilly's retirement fund a pyramid scheme or a Monday laundry scheme? It's neither. It's right to his bank account. Straight to his money. Straight to his bank account. It is charity.
Starting point is 00:27:34 The charity just happens to be him. Exactly. It was so fun. That's great. really enjoyed it. Listen, Luke's got his bag, Wedge's got to get his too. You hear it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And for me personally, I'm a hater. I'm a hater. And her mother out there, and she's, like, talking crazy. I was like, nah, and you got to get your... My absolute favorite is when
Starting point is 00:27:56 her mother does a pose on the screen and the daughter does the exact same person. Oh, that's mother. I was like, oh, he's length. Bro, go get her, man. She's not... They're not slick. But in perfect
Starting point is 00:28:07 Ardman fashion, It's a story about family. It's about the embarrassing and clunky mom that is like, you forgot your lunch. And then she just parks it right on the speedway. And they learn about family. It's a beautiful story. I'm going to put this in Best Animation, not only because of all of the great visual gags and all of the great characters involved with it,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but I absolutely loved some of the way that characters move. and it's kind of the thing that they're known for. It's like, it's what makes Looney Tunes so visceral. It's what makes Wallace and Grommet so iconic. It's the ways in which people raise an eyebrow or stretch out their arm or a thing clunks onto the floor. It's only they can do what they do, and it's still perfect. I love it to death.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah, for me, I got to give this one best new character. You know, I love my Tweed-Lek, uh, pilots going with Annie. She's great. And also, Annie doing a race, just, hey, man. Hey, man, are you not excited? You know, now this is pod racing. This is pod racing.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Oh, man, it was great. Annie was awesome. I wish, I would honestly love to see that again. I don't know, like, if it's worthy of like a sequel adaptation, but she all love me some, some, I mean, honestly, I can do an entire short series of just her in flight school with her friends. and it's like a bunch of antics. Her rivals got that Draco-Malfoy energy. I love it.
Starting point is 00:29:42 God, man, I'm locked in. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tramphia offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tramphia is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks,
Starting point is 00:30:08 followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks. If your doctor decides that you can self-rength, inject Trimphia. Proper training is required. Tremfaya is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn's disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis. Serious allergic reactions, increased risk of infections or lower ability to fight them, and liver problems may occur. Before treatment, get checked for infections and tuberculosis. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or need a vaccine. Explore what's possible. Ask your doctor about Trimphia today. Call one.
Starting point is 00:30:43 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit trimfireradio.com. This episode is brought to by Paramount Plus. Beth and Rip are back in a new series, Dutton Ranch. Kelly Riley and Cole has a returned, and this time they're taking on Texas. As Beth and Rip build a future together, peace will have to wait as they face corruption, danger,
Starting point is 00:31:05 and a ruthless rival ranch, willing to protect its secrets at all costs. Legacy is a beautiful thing, but only if it survives. Dutton Ranch starring Colehouser Kelly Riley Annette Benning and Ed Harris now streaming
Starting point is 00:31:17 on Paramount Plus. This episode is brought to you by Nass Energy. Every ounce of dirt, sweat, and gears, every checkered flag and trophy raised,
Starting point is 00:31:27 every lap, every race, every hard-bought place. They're all jammed inside every can of Nass Energy, high-performance energy for burning
Starting point is 00:31:34 the midnight oil in the garage and pedal to the metal human horsepower for the streets. Go ahead, crack open a can of Nass Energy
Starting point is 00:31:42 and get after it. All right. Moving on, Jomi. Yeah, let's get to the real. Let's get to why we all came here. Ladies and gentlemen, folks, everybody who's sitting around their fireplaces, listening to this podcast, this is what we came to talk about. This is why we're all here.
Starting point is 00:31:58 This is what it's all about when you wake up in the morning and you stare at your alarm clock, you're like, man, what is it all for? What do we all do it for? This is it, folks. Journey to the dark head is what it's all about. That's why we do. this. That's why we're here coming to you live
Starting point is 00:32:16 inside. This is what it's all about, folks. I love this one. It's my favorite thing of all time. Let's talk about it, Steve. Let's get into it. All right, by Studio MIR directed by Park Hong Jun, presented in the South Korean language and in English,
Starting point is 00:32:32 tells the tale of a hopeful mechanic and a jaded Jedi that go on a mission to help shift the tide of war. Jomi, you already gave it the full WVWE promo. I'm gonna talk about it a little bit as well. I really, really liked this.
Starting point is 00:32:47 This was fucking good. This was my most favorite thing of all time. I need more. I have to have more. This is probably the most reminiscent of volume one, where not only it is the closest to the anime style, I won't say one for one, because this is a South Korean studio animating this and directing this.
Starting point is 00:33:08 The best way that I could describe it is, anime melancholy or like a mellow drama because a lot of this is about the angst
Starting point is 00:33:20 of a jaded light side user and the kind of inner turmoil that comes with facing somebody from
Starting point is 00:33:29 the dark side I think the fights in this are great I think the animation style is incredible but I genuinely
Starting point is 00:33:38 loved for the most part the idea of the symbolism in balance between the idea of cutting off the head of a statue in order to shift the tide of a war because that will release more light side energy
Starting point is 00:33:53 and kill more dark side energy. This is when we play with the idea of like a finite amount of force energy in the universe. Like it's a resource. Like it's a thing that can be pulled away from and taken back. What did you think about the ideas that this short was giving us?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Well, it's kind of like, What we talked about in the Sith, right, where, you know, she goes back and she's like, yo, there's light and dark. These things have a balance. And that's what this plays with so heavy. That's what it ultimately comes down to in the end is that she realizes, hey, the light needs the dark, the dark needs the light. They all come together. There's no eliminating the dark because then you would mess up the light.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And we can't have that, you know. And so it was just great to see her realize that. She's like cut off the head of the dark. We'll be cool. We'll mess it up. But then you see as the colors interchange, like it's blue, it's red, it's purple. They're all mixing. They're all encompassing.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Just to see that story, you know, again, in like, what, 20 minutes develop was just incredible. Now, it's not as, like, I won't say outlandish, but I won't say as out there as a lot of these other stories have gotten. This one is almost a bit more, I won't say straightforward Star Wars, but it has your classic light versus dark fight. It has a, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:23 a sort of like skeptical mechanic about wanting to change the war. It's got a pilot wanting to change the things about the world that she doesn't appreciate. And a Jedi user whose master was murdered in cold blood,
Starting point is 00:35:38 bruh, it's Star Wars Rebels That's what I just seen I just seen Canaan and Hera How they met for the first time And I was locked And now it's not like Of course it's not one to one But that's honestly the vibe I got it
Starting point is 00:35:51 I was like I was watching it By the way if you haven't You know I think I watched the first in English If you watch it in Japanese I was I was watching It felt like an animal I was like where's the next episode
Starting point is 00:36:04 I wait You know what I'm saying But it really felt rebels like in terms of like the Canaan and the hair of it all like a pilot and a Jedi you know like they're you know they're not like the at least at first they're like the best of friends
Starting point is 00:36:20 there's a little bit of bickering but ultimately at the end of the day like they know they need each other to to succeed and reach their goals I was I was so locked in on this world dude it was really really really good I think I think that this is my My award that I would give for this is best fight.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I'm giving this best fight because I think the style overweighed a bit more of the substance in this. Not to say that it wasn't good, that it wasn't entertaining, but I think that what we got out of this the most for me was visual splendor. And then a little bit of our, not box standard, but I want to say a little bit expected hero versus villain origin story. I think the idea that these things took place on massive statues that were aiming to be destroyed, that were sort of alive with force energy. That was cool.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I think, but like the end fight is like actually incredible. And I think that's where I'm going to have to give my award for best fight. I'm also giving it best fight. I am also giving it best story again. This is something that I could absolutely, you know, I enjoyed just the 20 minutes we got, was incredible and I really felt immersed in that world. Most worthy of a sequel slash film adaptation, I need it.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Wow. So you have away just three awards right there to this one. Listen, listen. Journey to Darkhead. Listen. I know Lucasfilm is listening. I know everybody's locked in. Okay, Studio Amir, you, y'all are fans.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I need six seasons in a movie. Lock me in. Lock me in. I'm ready. I need Studio Amir to give me the Star Wars that I, Just me, Jomey deserves. Right. Okay, just me.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Just for me, nobody else can watch it. Arjuna, you can't watch it. Steve, you can't watch it. Kerm, you might be able to watch it, you know what I'm saying? Don't fall asleep. Let me celebrate that Lakers parade. You feel me? You got it.
Starting point is 00:38:19 You know what I'm saying? But, no. But. Man, the Corpium is hitting hard today. Listen, listen, it's a big, it's a big game, gang, too. No, but I'm, I am, I really, really, really love this. This was, honestly, like, I'm not even. even afraid to say it like this is the best even as even putting in season one one of the best star wars
Starting point is 00:38:40 visions shorts we've ever gotten and well from one of the best star wars star wars vision shorts we've ever gotten to one of the best star wars vision shorts we've ever gotten it's the spite answer i'm doing this at you right now i love this one by studio lachette directed by julian sheng i hope i'm pronouncing that right everybody shang has won an emmy award in animation and as an executive producer from Gendi Tardikovsky's primal, which was also served as an animation supervisor, directed many other things. Caesar Award nominated, many other great things.
Starting point is 00:39:20 This follows the story of a imperial occupied city in a cabaret theater that is hosting all of these imperial soldiers, and the sort of hostess slash daughter of this main dancer is putting on a show for the Imperials. They're fighting for the rebels, but in a very secret and covert way
Starting point is 00:39:46 when she finds who she thinks to be an officer from her past, an imperial officer from her past that may have taken her son from her. And it turns out to be her actual son Oh my gosh. Raised by the Empire. What a twist.
Starting point is 00:40:03 In a... It's great. No. After I gave your thing, the respect it deserves. Well, here's the thing, right. Like, one of us is right. One of us is wrong. Okay, and we'll find out about that.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I loved this. I'm going to start this right away. This is getting best story from me. I absolutely loved this short. This was so evocative of, like, the stories of Nazi-occupied Paris when theaters and cabaret were still going on from the war and people were trying to like give like notes and codes to
Starting point is 00:40:43 occupying forces. This was incredibly well done with the ideas of like of dress combat if that were if that makes sense. The idea that the emotion that can come from this mom who lost her son who is this like steel-tempered, even-handed, like, woman of subterfuge running this, like, elegant theater, and then she sees who might have taken her son, and then it is her son, completely turns a 180, goes apeshit on this entire theater. I absolutely loved this story.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Jomi, you're pushing up against me. What didn't you like about this? It's not what I didn't like, right? I think it was a wonderful story. I really enjoyed the, you know, again, like the spy element of it. She's secretly tagging the Stormtroopers. And when she sees Home Boy, who she thinks is the dude from the past, she snaps. And she's like, hey, man, clear out.
Starting point is 00:41:47 That's it. It's going to be me and him. We're going to lock in. And then she finds out she's, you know, that's her son. And it all changes. She's like, yo, guys ready to kill you. but, you know, that was not your dad. And ultimately, they both, you know, go their separate ways and were left to wonder, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:04 will he, you know, realize, you know, hey, man, this isn't where I'm supposed to be at my real families with my mother down there. All that's great. Steve, when we weren't recording, you were talking crazy about this, bro. Let's be real. The gas was nuts, my buddy. Yeah. Gas was nuts. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It's one of the best ones. It's cool. It's not. It's the best one, in my opinion. It's not, see, you know what I'm saying? Like, Journey, like Journey to the Darkhead, that's special, you know what I'm saying? That's when you see that and you're like, man, this is what it's all about. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:35 This is why we do this. This one, you know, again, while I really enjoyed it, it ain't. And it reached those heights, my boy. It ain't really reached those heights. All right, well, then I'll guess I'll out you for a minute. You would have said that you wouldn't personally have let your son getting taken by the empire. My son not getting taken by the empire. Really?
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah, it's going to be. Even for fear of your child and your life. You got to check this out, right? You know what I'm saying? So we flash back. Okay. It is, you know, we're back in the Southern Water Tribe. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Katara was the only water bender left in there. And her, you know what her mom did? Her mom was like, it's me. Take me. Leave my daughter. That's what I would have did personally. That's what I would have did personally. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:16 You forget that this is how Space France does it, though. I don't know how they do in Space France. I don't know what's going on. This is confirmed that Space France. Bilberg confirmed Space Boston. This confirms space France. England definitely exists
Starting point is 00:43:30 because everybody got an English accent up there. They definitely got a space name. Obviously, and they're going to put everything that they rob from Space Africa? Yeah, you was going to say that. Yeah, you was going to say that. Yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Don't worry. Why do you think Theron likes art so much? Come on. Oh, my God. Thron is one of them's? That's crazy. We need killmonger. What is space?
Starting point is 00:43:49 What's space Nigeria look like in Star Wars? Oh, space Nigeria? Oh, my God. Whose government is more corrupt? the empire. That's crazy. You talking about Nigeria
Starting point is 00:43:58 Corubness. I can hear you, my boy. You paid attention to the news. No, they got some the jail off rice
Starting point is 00:44:03 and space about a hint, bro. They got that spice out there. Right. That's spicier than Dune spice.
Starting point is 00:44:08 What's some plantain? Listen, it's tough, man. Like, we can't, I think for this, let's get, like,
Starting point is 00:44:15 getting back to the story. Yeah. Like, the themes, of course, are important. But in terms, like the gas
Starting point is 00:44:24 that you put on it, bro. It was cool. I have so many follow-ups. Now that he's back with the empire, I was like, okay, so he has that tracker. He knows that that's his mom. He's clearly hiding up his other colored eye. He has his horns that he hides away from his mask. Like, those are either shaved off or he's putting it under his hat. What is he going to do? Is he going to chase after him? He's going to go back from them. And I'm going to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I'm giving it the award for Most Worthy of a sequel or film adaptations because I want to keep following these people. I'm not, like, I don't think this is, I'm not going to say it's like the least deserving of one. I think you do bring up interesting points about, you know, hey, what happens when he goes back, you know? But I think that's, I think that's, it's inspiring. I want to see, I want to see Tool again, my boy. Okay. I don't know, I want to see Tool again, bro. I want to see him rock that thing, my way.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Mm-hmm. You see, it's your lightsaber bias. Steve, you don't like lifesavers, bro. You came to you, a Star Wars fan who don't like lifesavers. Just be glad that I didn't give this one for best fight for her going crazy with the dress. Like, I'm not going to lie, that was cool. That was cool. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:31 Can I say that's a force ability? Ford dresses? Absolutely, it's not a force ability. Let's not do this right now. I'll tell you what, though, that little, like bracelet that turned into like a spear thing. That was great. She was dog. Okay, I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Like, that was fired. Come on. She would have killed her son. If she wouldn't, like, playing attention? She was like with the thing, like a little Spider-Man, right? With the little, but like, in turn. Yeah, no, bro, it's not. It's not Journey to the Darkhead, man.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You got to, like, let's push back on the gas. It was cool. I enjoyed it. I think most of our listeners will say, like, this was pretty cool. But Journey to the Darkhead, man, that is peak visions, bro. That's peak visions, man. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Up next, the bandits of Golic. Oh, yeah. By 88 pictures, directed by Milit Shende, pursued by the empire, a brother and sister seek refuge on a train in the desert and amongst a new family, we could say. Jomey, what did you think of the bandits of Gulloch? I like this one a lot. Again, it goes back to being an older sibling and just like telling your siblings. Just your kids being idiot.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah, like, you give a kid to force and you're like, hey man, don't use the force. And not only does she use the force, she uses it across the train to get the little flute. She just like, literally like, hey, you know people can see you, right? Like, you're not supposed to do that.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And it kicks off the whole thing. But it's, it was fun. I really enjoyed their brother-sister relationship. And yeah, it was a really fun short. What are you through, Steve? I loved it. It's very important to note that this is an Indian-directed studio and short,
Starting point is 00:47:23 incorporating a lot of Indian aesthetics with a CG animation style that's very reminiscent of the recently season of the Bad Batch. It looks almost like it could be in the same show. Yeah, it's very clone wars, really looked like Clone Wars. In a very good way. Like, this isn't, not to slight it at all.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I know people get on the Clone Wars animation style, but like this feels one for one, like I could see more of this. The first couple of season, Clone Wars, animation. That's a little rough. Let's be, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:47:53 But he gets to the back half, especially like the CJ Bandelor, it's peak stuff. And this reminded me of the peak stuff we've seen in Clone Wars. So to the point, yeah, to you,
Starting point is 00:48:00 I was like, did Lucas film do this one? Or like, what am I looking at? But, you know, when you look at the credits and you look at the beginning, it's definitely that studio.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Like, yeah, they knocked it out of the park. This looked great. Again, like the family atmosphere was, I just love that kind of stuff. And the Jedi's, the Jedi work was cool, man.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Cool. I really love the incorporation of Indian music with a sort of like Star Wars twist here. It really sounds good. I think there's a lot of great production elements into this. I am going to give this one best art direction. Okay. Because it's like it's brimming with color and personality.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Everything that this touches, it's like basically like the Indian culture and pastiche lifted immediately into Star Wars and it works perfectly. Yeah. Like, I did not expect at all how well and good-looking this could be. And it fits so well. When we meet that Inquisitor, that character design is so good. Like, he's a punk, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I'm really glad you brought up the Inquisitor, Steve. I'm a hater. Of course you are. No, no, no, no. Let's understand, like something. Inquisitors are the Washington generals of the Star Wars universe. They're jobbers, right? They show up and they get beat up and they lose.
Starting point is 00:49:18 and they stink and we're supposed to like we're supposed to like respect them and think like oh man and quiz of the show of man it's going to be crazy man and they lose every single time I mean let's like let's just go back and we're just thinking that it's going to be not me not I seen that
Starting point is 00:49:35 the dude who showed up in um what was it Tales of the Jedi right Asoka didn't even have didn't even have a light saber and got him up out of there can't believe dog
Starting point is 00:49:48 They had big homie, right? Shouted to my, our guy, Ezra, right? Had that Inquisitor winning crazy in rebels. No training, by the way. Nope. Just a kid, just a 12 year old kid had the Inquisitor going crazy. Bro, it's just not, it's not what it's about, okay? If there are a million inquisitor haters, I am one.
Starting point is 00:50:11 If there are 10 inquisitor haters, I am one. If there are no more inquisor haters left on the planet Earth, that means I have ascended to be with the Jedi upstairs. There's no way these guys stink and we as fans deserve better than the Inquisites. I'm serious. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:50:29 What do we think about our fight with our old lady twin cane saver? See, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I already packed you up now. She was powerful. She had to twist the, you know what I'm cool. She lifted up 20 plates of food as opposed to one. You know, so she's clearly got some sense.
Starting point is 00:50:46 No, that was awesome. We don't have a character for Best Sabre, but that was the twin, the cane. How you show with the cane and pull up with the twin sabers? That's fire, man. It's really, really good. That's fire. But again, so I want to bring this back to our second short.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Screechers Reach, this ends almost similarly to how Screechers Reach ended. A Jedi comes, takes away our young protege, away from their family. And I do like again, these Jedi, really easy to snatch up a family and just break them apart. Yeah, well, they do that. They really do that. And I'm curious as to think that like I, yes, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But you couldn't just as easily like, okay, looks like your own, on your own 15 year old boy. And that's, that's it. Like, not going to give you off to somebody that's going to be, I don't know, kids are probably from tougher stuff back in the Star Wars days? I'm going to answer your question with the question. Right. Does that 15-year-old boy also have the force? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Remains to be seen. But we don't know, right? As far as we know, it's no, right? Good luck, my boy. I'll catch you on the other side. Again, why are you dumping all these kids that don't? Why is that okay now? Because...
Starting point is 00:52:06 When the kids that didn't have the force in Screechers reach, they're like, oh, well, sorry. You're going to be orphans. It's analogy, right? You got two hom boys. Can't leave the homies behind. You got two homeboys, right? One of them is going to the league.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Like one of them is going to go. Oh, come on. Hold on. She was snatching flutes out of her brother's back pocket. Hold on. She's going to the league. There's a difference when you're going to the league and going to become a cop, right? My boy say, hey, man, I'm going to, I'm going to academy.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Sith are cops? Sith are absolutely police. I'm absolutely police. I want my homeboy becoming a cop. She's like, hey, man. Yeah, bro, we're going to Florida, man. I'm going to IGM. You know, I'm trying to get drafted.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Hey, man. Good luck, bro. I'm going to miss you, man. I love you, dog. Like, go out the deal thing, man. I'm room for you. But boys like, hey, yeah, I'm going to the, going to police academy, man. I'm going to become a cop.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I'm going to like, as a kid, you don't know that. Like, I see you, bro. Like, deal thing, dog. I catch you, man. Here's the thing. Here's what I'll say. Different. It's different.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Here's what I'm going to say. The, like, the Sith at the end of Screecher's reach, you don't know anything about her. I'm not saying that she, I'm not going to say that she's inherently good. I'm not going to say that she's going to give her a better life. But there's nothing. that that kid would have gone up onto that ship for
Starting point is 00:53:20 if it weren't for like a good looking Jedi But here's ding, we know she's evil Like we know Yes That she's evil Okay With the Red Sabre and the
Starting point is 00:53:31 I saw not really a holocron But like the medallion She was wearing That was very bad You're like hey You know We I guess we can't talk her out of it I guess you don't
Starting point is 00:53:40 You do have a point She doesn't know That she's going out there To become a cop Right But we know And so you'd be like Hey man
Starting point is 00:53:46 I'm, that's tough. It can't really let your homies down like that. Her brother seemed cool. She was like, hey, you're going to go out and live your life, man. We're going to get you to the league. Perfect. That's great. I'm happy for you.
Starting point is 00:53:59 They didn't really seem happy for the home girl at Screech's Reach. I was like, hey, man, what about us, man? We're trying to eat, too. It's like, you're going to starve. Bye. I don't know. I don't want to be left with a little recorder from my sister. All I'm saying is, would you rather have you home to go to the,
Starting point is 00:54:14 it's a flute. If you rather have your homie go to the, the league or become a cop. I want my homies to go to the league. All right. By the way, we're still missing two awards from you, best animation and best new force ability. We got two more shorts left.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Any late additions? Hey, man. Don't worry about me, man. It's coming. Okay. It's coming. All right. Here it comes.
Starting point is 00:54:35 The pit. Oh, yeah. The pit. Everybody's favorite one, the pit. Steve. I'm going to let you cook. All right. By Dart, Chateo Studios.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And directed by Leandro Thomas and Justin Ridd. Steve, say one nice thing about the pit. I liked... Tough. Tough. Keep that silence. Keep that silence in the podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I'll say this. I'll say this. Keep it. I like the music. I definitely liked when the kid was getting ignored for like half of a second. And then right, it was that speech right before everybody said, Look for the light. Look for the light.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Oh, wow. That's tough. That's the S.A. Come over with, my boy. This, okay, this might have been my least favorite short from this volume. That's not what you said. It's the, it's the worst one from this volume. It didn't really do it for me.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I didn't quite find any of the, like, most of the plot, like, too intriguing. It takes place on a mining planet. We mine Khyber. it's this basically prison labor system they're constantly mining chyber crystals to help build this massive affluent city just miles away from this giant hole in the ground where all this prison labor is happening
Starting point is 00:56:00 they get stuck there left for dead now that the city's made and they got everything left one person escapes tries to get people to help Empire tries to silence them they start a small revolution in the city they get back, they come back for help, and then, you know, get everybody up out of the pit. Jomey, what did you like about this?
Starting point is 00:56:23 Prove me wrong. Tell me what's so compelling about this one. Yeah, man. So there's a lot happening in this one. I think the thing that, you know, I mean, if I'm being completely honest, of all the things that came out in this batch of Visions, volume two, this is probably the weakest one.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I don't think I hate it as much as you do, but there's something like the thing I enjoyed was you know of course they're playing with the cyber mythology again you know at the end she the girl has like the clear crystal yes she's holding her hand it turns blue and you know the conversation I devi digs has like as soon as she opened him off was like Deveid digs man what's going on how you you're clear yeah great to see devid digs
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'm glad I didn't get a check man good for him okay fine that's the best thing about the short that Devee digs got his check you know And the thing that, you know, they do all the digging, they reach bedrock, they get released, and you're like, oh, snap, like, this is like, this is a different kind of level of evil, even for the empire. It sucks. Like, I mean, my first thought, not a lie, my first thought was, what happens if it rains? Y'all just die, right? Yeah, you just make a lake, like, you better swim. The swimming pool, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:38 But I guess there's enough, you know, groundwater there where it's like, you know, at the end of the world. But when, you know, he escapes, he does the literally thing from the dark and I rises. Masa, masa, masa, eh. And he gets out. And the thing that got me, like, honestly, like, you know, not emotional, but, like, I was like, I was going to get back in there. It was kind of like a thought, you know, half thought. But as soon as I seen the troopers, like, oh, no, he's going to get thrown in there. And I was like, dang.
Starting point is 00:58:10 They killed him on me. I don't know. Like, I don't know me. That was tough. I don't know. Like, again,
Starting point is 00:58:15 like, it's not the strongest one, but still, it's tough circumstances. I was like, dang, man, you never want to see you to do go out like that.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I think, here's my problem. I think that this, of all of the things that we've seen creatively done within the palette of Star Wars, you play around with
Starting point is 00:58:31 how lightsabors can look, what the force is, what family means, how you can take away family, change it. I don't, really see anything that, like, did anything crazy with this. And if you were to make a sort of, like, more human, more, like, visceral story about struggle and, like, empires and rebellion and
Starting point is 00:58:52 resistance, this has it, but I don't find anything inherently compelling about what this one brings to me. Even if you play around with the Khyber mythology a little bit, I'd argue that the one that we're going to talk about right after this has a lot more fun with that idea. And I don't know, like this just, this really didn't grab me at all. Yeah, the, the one thing for me that I didn't understand is when they've got his body there, you know, it's like, it's not like, it's not flat. Like, he should be liquid. You got dropped from a really high high, like, that's, he's dust.
Starting point is 00:59:27 You have to like, like, kind of like, you know, several spoils from Star Wars, rest in peace, tech. Yeah. You know, also, you know, just paste. You have to hose them off. Yeah. You know, there's now really no more bones or skull. to pick at this really should be just
Starting point is 00:59:41 you know, paste and and dirt. But yeah, I didn't really hate it as much as you did. Again, I didn't, you know, I think it was the best one, but I think there's still things there that like, you know, really resonate in terms of like how we think of Star Wars and how, you know, the expanding universe. Like, you can't just
Starting point is 00:59:58 like literally like, hey, thanks for your labor, we're going to free y'all. But you got to stay in the circle. You got to stay in a pit. It's like, that's tough, man. Yeah, it is. It's dark. It's dark. It's a darker ending than we've seen in most of them. But again, I'm like, ah,
Starting point is 01:00:13 like, we've had a little bit more of a better fare. And speaking of which, let's move on to our final episode. Your Aou's song by Tiger Fish, directed by Nadia Darius and Daniel Clark.
Starting point is 01:00:28 This one takes place in a forest planet with a mind next to it. Our little character just wants to sing, but she can't. Can't sing, can't talk. Can't sing, can't talk. poor thing, and it might cause a mining disaster if she does.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Jomi, what did you think of Au's song, our final animated feature? This one, man, this one really got me, I know it. This one was adorable. So, so sweet. It was like, I've got this big, this enormous sineral city right next to me. That frosting was looking like a helmet on top of it right now. It's dry. It's literally as big as big as a softball.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. I got to tweet a picture of it. It's the biggest cinema roll, like normal cinema roll you've ever seen. And even this cinema roll was not as sweet as this story. No, it was incredibly sweet. I was very, very touched by this. I'm giving this both best new character for out and best new forceability, honestly, because the idea of using your voice and song to purify and cut a khyber crystal,
Starting point is 01:01:38 I genuinely loved that. I was awesome. And something as beautiful and as like charming as it is to play with the idea of, you know, you bleed a crystal and that's how you get your color and your lightsaber. But with this, it's like something that's just as evocative as your voice, as your song, as a thing that you release from your heart. That's beautiful. That's so, so great.
Starting point is 01:02:01 It's, again, so sweet. Just like so heartfelt to. and how at the end there you know her dad's telling her hey keep quiet you know you don't want to mess up the minds you don't want to mess up the minds you don't want to mess up the minds you don't want to mess up the minds at the end there just to let her
Starting point is 01:02:18 let all her inhibitions go and finally be able to like sing her songs like you know feet right bro I'm getting I'm getting emotional just think about it bro like it's really it truly is touching it really really is I was very touched by this I loved the idea
Starting point is 01:02:36 and to say nothing about the actual animation and look of this short, which is like basically every character, it's like a combination of stop motion and a little bit of 2D animation where they basically have like these plush dolls that they've moved and then they animate their mouths in such a way. I've seen the behind the scenes. I encourage everybody to watch some of the behind the scenes with their art direction for this episode.
Starting point is 01:03:00 They've basically made these little like plush dolls of all of these characters that they've then moved and then made like semi-practical, semi-animated or CGI sets for these places. It looked gorgeous, stunning end to this collection. It really, really is one of my favorites out of this. I wish I could give it more awards,
Starting point is 01:03:22 but I kind of like, I don't know, it was a little top-heavy. But I just, I really, really love this. This was like, again, for the lack of, like, action-packed anime level beat-em-up stuff that we got in Volume 1 and
Starting point is 01:03:40 a bit of a more intimate, more romanticized amount of stories that we got in Volume 2. I think this is a perfect ending to it. The amount of diversity that comes from not on the animation styles, but the types of stories that are told here, this and several
Starting point is 01:03:56 other ones are exactly why I love the idea of visions. And I think that this is a perfect way to end for it. What do you think, Joey? For me, this was, yeah, this is one of the best ones of this batch. And I really, really, really loved the animation. Like, it's, honestly, it's like, I love Journey of the Dark Head, too. But I got to give this one to Ali, man.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Like, just the plus. And you just, that world is just so warm. And I'm going to say, cuddly, it's like a teddy bear. It literally is. They made those little dolls. So lovely, so incredible. And yeah, my best new force ability goes to Ali. That singing to cure chirochrystal's is awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Like, I imagine if that exists. Imagine if Asoka had to sing to get her to purify her crystals. Imagine watching Obi-Wan get a tune in. I would love that. I would love to see, like, do you have the gathering, right? And now in order to purify the crystals or whatever, go sing a tune, man. What are you singing? That's what I was about to ask you.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I was like, what song do you sing to purify your crystal? Oh, that's easy. What is it? Yeah, da, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Must it under the beat, uh. I'm different. Yeah, I'm different. I'm different.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yeah, I'm different. Okay. I'm different. Yeah, I'm different. I'm different. Pulled up to the scene when my ceiling is missing. Pulled up to the scene I'm just two giant baby
Starting point is 01:05:33 Come on now Yes sir Yes sir We locked in What about you see What you see? Don't want to miss the thing Byerosmith
Starting point is 01:05:40 That's what I'm going to sing Don't want to miss you life Don't want to fall to sleep Because I miss you baby And I don't want to miss a day Interesting fun fact about that song It was playing in Armageddon With Steve Tyler's daughter
Starting point is 01:05:58 Live Tyler Making sweet sweet sweet love to Ben Affleck. So, you know, if you just, there's a little trivia there, Armageddon trivia in the middle of your Star Wars, look at us, man. Like Armageddon and like Star Wars, we're proud of our kids.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Let's wrap up for today. Be sure to check out yesterday's House of Ar on their Troops course with the Magical Weapons Series. Tomorrow, the Min-I-Boys is going to give you their instant reactions to Gardens of the Galaxy, Volume 3. Yeah. Are you ready?
Starting point is 01:06:32 I am ready, Freddie, bro. Lock me in, send me to nowhere. Let's go. And guess what? You have a happy weekend. And then on Monday, House of ours going to give you their deep, deep dive into Gardens of the Galaxy, volume three as well. Thank you so much to our stalwart producer, Jonathan Kerma, an additional production from
Starting point is 01:06:54 our Juno Ramgapal, right here in the studio, not eating that amazing cinema. and roll. Arjuna, do you want it? You want some? You sure? All right. It's fine. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:07 All right. It's cool. I'm like, I have to eat it myself. And be sure to follow us all on socials in case you don't want to miss a thing. Where, Jomey? You can follow us everywhere. Facebook, Twitter, TikTok. Did I miss anything?
Starting point is 01:07:23 No, because you should already be following this. At ring or verse. Just that, just at ring of verse. Please do it. I love my job. I like getting paid. I could really, the health insurance is great. I know the mental health coverage over here is great.
Starting point is 01:07:36 So if I could follow it, I really like to keep that. So thank you guys. Appreciate you. You guys so much, Junior Mints. We love you so much. Thank you for rocking with us. We will see you again soon. We might be talking about Beast Wars coming up next.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Stay excited. But until next time, Jomi, give us some parting words. Of course, got to say a wonderful thank you to the best producer in the business. Who, by the way, still has a job. Mike Kerman Holzer. Shout out, man. Appreciate you. Hey, man. Stay employed, my boy. Got to do it.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And to everybody listening right now, we love you. Thank you as always for listening. And of course, May the Fourth be with you. Because he's different. Yeah, he's different. He's different. Feels like every product claims real protein these days. But real doesn't start on a label.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It starts. at the source. Like real California milk from California farm families, it's real dairy delivering high quality, complete protein, with all nine essential amino acids to help build muscle, give you energy, and keep you satisfied longer. So keep it real. Look for the seal. Real California milk.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.