The Ringer-Verse - Summer Bits We Missed: 'Prey,' 'RRR,' and More | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: August 17, 2022

The Midnight Boys return to talk about some of the best films and shows of the summer that they missed talking about. They give their spoiler-filled takes on: 'RRR' (09:30) 'Prey' (19:19) 'Nope' (25:2...7) 'Top Gun: Maverick' (33:38) 'Jurassic World: Dominion' (39:43) 'Bullet Train' (43:49) 'Everything Everywhere All at Once' (49:45) 'The Bear' (54:31) Hosts: Van Lathan, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, my name is Dave Gonzalez, and I haven't read any of the books in George R. Martin's The Song of Bison Fire. I'm Joanna Robinson. I've read every book in George R. Martins, a Song of Ice and Fire. And I'm Neil Miller, and I have also read all of those books. We are headed back to Westeros to cover the Game of Thrones spin-off series, House of the Dragon. We'll be answering your question, so send us a raven at Trialby Content at gmail.com. Take some bread and salt and join us Thursdays on the Trial by Content feed, and don't worry, you're safe. The reins of Castamere hasn't even been written yet. With adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.
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Starting point is 00:02:24 Jono to explain at a dinner on you've got questions He's got answers We are Steve, the architect Almond The builder of the Matrix
Starting point is 00:02:32 We are Old Van Van He of the receding hairline We aren't Coke baby Chuck The brunch hottie Brunch hottie
Starting point is 00:02:48 Brunch haughty So I don't know if you guys... I understood that reference. Closing out the summer with Hot Boy brunches. I don't know if you guys saw it, heard the story or read the story on Twitter. Chuck went to a brunch, and he was dripping hot sauce all down his body.
Starting point is 00:03:09 He's talking about he's at brunch. And what did you say, Jomey, that he spilled hot sauce on him? Like the Chalula glass, like the bottom like came up. from under him and he just spilled all over his legs, all over his shorts. Yeah, I had hot sauce running down my legs. Ooh, ooh, hot, hot brunch boy. The hot brunch boy, cook baby Chuck is not with us today.
Starting point is 00:03:33 He is on vacation, but we are still known as a midnight boys. What do you guys think about running hot sauce down your legs? What do you guys think about that? Like as a practice? Yeah, you think that that's sexy? I'm going to go ahead and say no. I mean, I'm not going to yuck anybody's yum in the bedroom or otherwise, but like, not for me. No.
Starting point is 00:03:57 What are you talking about? The capsaicin, like, gets everywhere and then now you just got, like, hot legs and you don't want to. Do you not like spicy food? Yes, I do. It doesn't love me back, but I do like it. Yeah, see, that's the thing. Like, it mess up with my tummy. So, like, I try to stay away because I do not like when my tummy gets messed up.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I hate it. It's painful. Really? Yeah, it's pain. It hurts. I don't like it. You're talking about the afterglow. Like when you eat spicy foods, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But like the consequences. People are like, oh, my God, you're from Louisiana. How don't you like spicy food? By the way, it's not all of us. It's not like our food is spicy like that. Our food is flavorful. Like, you don't eat those jumblelid. It's like all spicy.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I mean, we use the hot sauce, but even some of the hot sauce that we use besides Tabasco, it's not even hot. It's just as a little. You know, and a little heat is fine. Yeah. But all of that, I don't want to do that. Shout out to Sean over on Hot One.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Shout out to the man. Bro. Gramming reminds. Yeah. Thursday, Min Edition returns to give you their thoughts on the season premiere of She-Hulk. Wow. Men, Editions coming back. Season premiere of She-Hulk.
Starting point is 00:05:20 What a great show. I've seen some of it. I loved it. I was able to watch episodes ahead because we don't have to cover it on the Midnight Boys. The Mitt boys are holding true to the one episode at a time reaction model. No screener gate allegations here. No screener gate allegations. So they don't even know how good the fucking show is.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Ha, ha, hope all the in-cells all get diarrhea from how good the show is. sale time is not great to be in cell. Friday, the House of R is previewing the House of Dragon, which I have no interest in. I have to be honest with you guys. I have to be honest with you guys. Let me tell you things that I'm interested in. I'm interested in Mal. I'm interested in Joe. I'm interested in Meringervis. I'm interested in their pot. I had to be honest with Joe. Joe and I had a conversation. I am not at all interested in the House of Drag. And I don't feel bad about it. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't care. I know that a lot of people out there care. I don't care about that. I heard that you were, you were putting it on like a 10-day contract.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like, you're going to like, see how it goes. But it's on a short leash with you. It's not even on a short, it's not even on a short leash. I'll watch it. But I don't care. I don't know why I don't care. I wish I did. Is it because of the way it ended, season eight? Nah, it's not because I gave it all to, you know, I gave it all the Game of Thrones, man. It's like, I gave it all. I gave it. I gave, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:54 It's not like Star Wars. Star Wars can maybe keep giving. And also, I will tell you something like this. There's something that House of the Dragon and other things like this don't have for me that I'm sure for huge, huge fans of the source material that they might have. I spent my entire childhood wishing and wanting for more Star Wars and, like, suckling at the teat of Star Wars. Wars only to get back dryness. Like, I was sucking at the heat of Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:07:24 and the only thing that would come out would be powdered milk, you know, and then all of the sudden, boom, Phantom Menace, boom, prequels, boom, cartoons, boom, you know what I mean? It's a renewed interest, so I have, I'm taking it all. Same thing with Marvel, I wanted movies so much, and every once in a while would you get, Dolph Lundering as Punisher.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And so even when I can survive, my disappointments because my childhood is fueling me. I don't have that same connection to Game of Thrones. I know some people might, but I don't. So, I gave to Game of Thrones, you know? And I don't know if I can have any more to give. I will watch the John Snow sequel trilogy if they have that.
Starting point is 00:08:04 That's, oh, man. Wow. Interesting that you say that. That notoriously great idea that everybody's very excited for. Like, I hope it's all good. I really do. I'm just, I'm more of like, okay, you know what? If Better Call Saul can prove me anything, it's that a spin-off series
Starting point is 00:08:21 can be just as good, if not maybe even better than the original. There's no way that you fucking think Barry Call Saul is better than Breaking Bad. It certainly isn't worse. It certainly is right up there. You will be interested to know that there are a good contingent of
Starting point is 00:08:37 people that exist in real life and on the internet that believe that Better Call Saul is better than Breaking Bad. So stupid. God bless you. you guys. I appreciate your opinions. I don't mean to call you stupid. But you're fucking done.
Starting point is 00:08:53 All right. This Sunday, Talk the Thrones is making its return with Chris Ryan. CR. CR Army. That's the sound of them taking their swords out. Shrink. Shrink.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Tuesday, House of R will give their deep dive for House of the Dragon. Did I make up a House of the Dragon song yet? I think it was like House of the Dragon. Yeah, yeah. House of the dragon, yeah, yeah, yeah. My gosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. House of the dragon.
Starting point is 00:09:25 House of the dragon. House of the dragon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the theme song. I'm isolating it. I'm like, I've got a library of great sounds ready for House of the Dragon. So Tuesday that's happening. Guys get into the dragon.
Starting point is 00:09:40 The men boys are going to take us through She-Hulk. You guys have to listen to Men Edition. Take us through She-Hulk because I got to be honest with you guys. I think you guys are going to love She-Hawks. Hulk, especially the ones of you guys that actually, you know, leave your homes and go out into the world and share community with women and other people that aren't like you. I think you're going to love Shee Hulk. By the way, I'm straight up telling you right now.
Starting point is 00:10:00 If you have too much bad stuff to say about Shee Hulk, I'm going to be honest with you. It's because you're an insult. I'm sorry. I've watched Shehulk. I've enjoyed Shehawk. If you have too big of a problem with the show, I look at you funny. It's unfair, but I say it. Today's show, we're touching on all the best.
Starting point is 00:10:17 movie shows and fun bits of the summer that we've missed talking about. Okay? That's what we're going to do. Midnight boys, we're going fishing, but we're going to a fishing hole that not a lot of people go to that your dad tells you about and all the fisher for you. All right. Some stuff that you guys have wanted us to talk about, too. We're going to do it right now. Steve, give me a very generic spoiler warning right here.
Starting point is 00:10:45 We're getting ready to talk about the movies. You're listening. to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Okay, let's talk about movies that we missed. The first movie is one of the best films that I have seen a yeah. And it is called R, R, R. Have we all seen this film?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yes, we have. Yes. Jami, get your shit off. And let me tell you some. The gas was crazy on RR. gas was nuts. Everybody's like, yeah, you got to tap in. I was like, all right, for show.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I'm going to make a thing. Turn it on three hours. I was like, I don't know, man. Three hours? That's a lot of movie. I enjoyed every single second. It was heat. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:11:41 It was so good. It's one of those. It was also like the movie everywhere, everything everywhere all at once where like there was no possible way that that movie was oversold to me. where they're like, this is like probably one of the most insane, incredible things you'll ever see. Don't be confused by this runtime. It's like very, like, I couldn't believe what I was seeing for most of the film.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's my first like real foray into Bali and Tollywood films. And boy, is this a great introduction. Like, Van, what was like the most surprising thing that you saw from this movie of the millions of things that were surprising? The movie was just knocking me on my goddamn socks. Okay. It was just not, first of all, we should say the movie is directed by SS Rajamouli. Okay. Well, guys, please give us some grace.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I don't know how to say it, but I really enjoyed the movie. Okay. And the thing that I watched the film and the film kept getting, it was like this sublime emotional crazy trip. It kept getting crazier. okay it's crazy when he goes through all of the protesters to get the guy and brings him back so i'm like is this going to end first of all he's getting this shit kicked out of him but yet he continues to figure out a way it's crazy he's fighting like a thousand mess a thousand people
Starting point is 00:13:12 it's it's crazy when they're up against it when he's when uh when your boys up against the tiger and when he's got to catch the tiger that's crazy then I'm going to tell you when the movie stole my heart. First of all, the bond between the two leads and the film. Best bromance of all time? All time? It's one of the greatest bromances I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I was so invested into what was going to happen to them not knowing the competing agendas that they had. It was nuts. For as long as they were friends, it's really hard to not know that he was a police officer for that long of a time. He's not looking for it. I mean, Steve,
Starting point is 00:13:50 that's, look, this is how I'm not going to find plot holes in RR. I'm not going to punch holes in that. This is the difference. See, we're trusting, Steve. True. Me and Jomey. You, you're always looking for the angle.
Starting point is 00:14:04 So you probably are the type of person that, like, is looking around my house. Is there something illegal that I call the cops on? It's that colonizer, you know, mentality. That's what it is. Very true. I have not once thought, is Jomey on the level, but I bet you've thought that about me. I bet you take pictures of my bathroom when you go to the bathroom. No. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Pictures in your bathroom. What are the same? What am I doing? But no, they're friends for a very long time. It's the premise that the movie's based on. I remember I'm watching the dancing scene. Kalika thought I was watching a dance movie.
Starting point is 00:14:39 How the fuck can they dance that well? Like, I got to be honest. So talented. So talented. They might be the two best dancers in the world. No cap. Like, they are going and like giving it. I can.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I'm watching the scene over and over and over again, trying to figure out who was moving better, and you cannot fuck, they are getting it. It's so much fucking fun. The entire movie, man. Jesus Christ, it was nuts that that was the only one dance sequence in that entire movie because, like, it's,
Starting point is 00:15:13 the movie literally has everything that anybody could ever want from big movie-making entertainment. It has action, it has romance, it has comedy, it has musical numbers, it has dance numbers, and it's like this massive cavalcade of like incredible ideas and fun.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Like I don't think that I, there was one moment I think when, like a musical sequence when he was, he was like being tortured, being whipped by his buddy after that. And like he was singing. And like, This was after like, I think in like hour like two and a half where like the movie has kind of like washed over me and like I'm like like I've believed it all.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Like I can like fully immerse myself in it. And I was just getting so emotional that his friend had to like beat him up like this and he's singing beautifully. It was tough. By the way, I typically don't like a musical like that. The only musicals I really like in life are The Wiz and La La La Land. I don't care what you got to say about La La La Land. amazing. I feel like we should get you on musicals, fans. Those are two very different musicals. A lot of the land affected me. But this film, with his musical elements, just floored me. It worked
Starting point is 00:16:31 perfectly. Who gives you action, dancing, heart? I got to be honest with you. RR was a filmmaking experience that I was privileged to watch. I felt, I felt privileged to watch RRR. No bullshit. Love, love, love the movie. It's fitting that the brunch haughty is and he's here. because it was the brunch haughty that that that that made me watch the movie is that his new nickname brunch haughty yes brunch hottie yes brunch hottie he's brunt haughty he's megg the stallion that's his new nickname who goes to who goes to brunch and waste hot sauce all over himself what the what who does that charles homes apparently um so the movie had a 72 million dollar budget big budget and the box office
Starting point is 00:17:18 has been between $150 and $160 million. But that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface about how much this movie is meant. There's Oscar buzz around this film. It is just an amazing, an amazing, an amazing film.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I believe so. And I believe it was, like, rumored to be one of the most expensive Tollywood films ever made up to that point. Yeah, Steve, tell people what Tollywood is. You literally were the one that told me this. It's like it's the separate regions of India, correct? Arjuna, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:53 The biggest difference is the language, right? So, Bollywood movies are in indie and Hollywood movies are in Tilagu. Right. So one of the other stars of the movie, N.T. Ramaral Jr., comes from a very prominent family of performers. Is this not true, Arjuna? I believe that is correct. You don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:18 That was RR.R. Love that film. Hope one day at our year-end podcast to really break down how much the film meant. And maybe there'll be some buzz around it then in terms of what the award season is going to bring to it. But I think it's going to be a big player in the award season. I think this film in many ways is going to be the Tollywood version of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. which means it's going to be the film that actually crosses over into the American audiences and opens it up and gets a lot of fanfare over here for the entire deal.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Because it was just a fantastic movie. It's a gateway movie. Like, I want to check out more of these movies now. Like, this is an entire world of movies that, like, I am not privy to. These movies. I think this movie is going to do for me what Paraside did for me back in 2019, 2020. When I locked that one and I was like, hey, man. These, you know, these Korean films, Kit.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You know, then you watch Train to Busan. You're right. And then you watch Train to Busan and, you know, you stay locked in. So, our, man, this is, this is just the beginning. I'm ready. I want to address the Train to Busan discourse over me and Sean's episode of the Big Pit. Oh, your bullet train episode? Bullet Train episode where it wasn't mentioned. Play us fuck up sometimes, too, man.
Starting point is 00:19:44 That's all I got to say. You know, I, on the higher learning, we did our top five athletes, and I forgot Muhammad Ali. Who was your top five outside of Muhammad Ali? So this was the top five. And I was trying to, this is what happens when you try too hard to be woke, right? So I said, Serena Williams, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, and I wanted to, and I wanted to give, Tom Brady has to be in there, guys. fucking seven Super Bowls. Not for me.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Seven Super Bowls, guys. Not for me. Seven Super Bowls? Nine. Ten. 12. 40. Seven Super Bowls is OD. I'm a hater.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Man. So I was trying hard to get another white guy. So I said Wayne Gretzky. Obviously, Ali is probably number one or two on the list. And I forgot because I was trying too hard. It happens on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Me and Sean, play us fuck up. This episode is brought to by Paramount Plus. Beth and Ripper. in a new series, Dutton Ranch. Kelly Riley and Cole Houser returned, and this time they're taking on Texas. As Beth and Rip build a future together,
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Starting point is 00:21:17 All right, next movie. The best predator movie ever made, pray. Wow. Right at the gate. In your heart, you know it's true. I mean, like, it's, again, like, it's as good, if not better than the first Predator movie. Like, that's the thing. Like, it's, the bar is like, first Predator movie and then whatever you choose next is right there with Prey.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Uh, Prey's amazing. Prey's fantastic movie. It's the story of the Predator coming back to Olden Times. Um, and it's just wild to be a Comanche at that time. Right. Because you got Steve's people and aliens. Nuts. I mean, I'm not French, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And aliens. You're not French. Come on. I'm not French. You're not French, but this wasn't just the French. It was everybody. I know, yeah. It was everybody.
Starting point is 00:22:05 No. But no, it's, no. Steve, why are you taking? Steve, hold for a second. Hold on for a second. First of all. My God. First of all, Steve, you don't have to feel responsible for that.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I'm fucking with you. I know. legitimately is such a I want to take time out right now. I've been really like, I'm on edge since NABJ. NABJ really did a number on me. I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:28 all right. I want to take time out right now. First of all. In an airshot of everyone to tell you guys, what a fucking amazing person, Steve is. What an amazing guy. What a fucking A number one stand up.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Fantastic. No more Steve jokes. Steve actually felt bad. What is that so fucking. Steve, you don't have, Steve. Like,
Starting point is 00:22:50 Steve actually fell back Love just fucking It was tough I don't want to be a predator I don't like no Steve I love you so much bro
Starting point is 00:23:00 You're an amazing producer And amazing friend An amazing ally Steve I'm not gonna fuck with Steve No more Steve actually was like yeah Whatever It's not dog
Starting point is 00:23:09 You're cool bro It's all good It's all good man Like It's so funny Yeah I loved it Jomi What did you think
Starting point is 00:23:18 See this is the one one film on the list I haven't seen you've been oh you got to tap in I just right now listen everybody's been you know preaching the gospel you know people are like you gotta watch the Comanche cut with the with the Comanche dub or this and that you know but
Starting point is 00:23:36 I've been locked in on you know other things you know it's busy times around here but trust trust me like I got I got to tap in to pray I got to tap in I think it's so good because it's so simple and I think that's what made the first Predator movie so good and it's what makes this so good. Question. Does somebody say they got to get to the chopper?
Starting point is 00:23:56 No? I mean, choppers don't exist in the 1700s. That's true. That's fine. I love the early look of the predator. It's like wearing like that skull on its face and it has like, and it's all practical effects. Like that's a real like makeup effect of the real predator.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It looks so, so amazing. Directed by Dan Tractonberg, director of one 10 Cloverfield Lane. fucking rock solid movie. Ten Cloverfield Lane is great. Yeah. It's a fantastic film. Tin Cloverfield Lane was just, it was a movie that, to me,
Starting point is 00:24:31 I think is a little bit underrated. I would agree. It gets a little walkie at the end and she destroys an alien ship. Okay. Well, okay, we'll respect Mary Elizabeth Winston. I respect her. I respect her.
Starting point is 00:24:45 By the way, no spoiler warning for a 10 Cloverfield Lane because the shit came out the same year, Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine were in the dunk contest together. I'm not fucking... Wow. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I'm not fucking... I'm not fucking with y'all on that shit. But Tim Clovefield Lane, amazing. I think just like 10 Cloverfield Lane, this movie's pacing is absolutely perfect. I think that's the thing about a predator movie that's probably harder to do
Starting point is 00:25:11 because in this particular film, the journey that it follows, and I'm not going to ruin it for Jeremy or the rest of the people that haven't seen. seen it, you have to you have to sort of pepper the movie with other things to keep
Starting point is 00:25:24 the viewer enthralled in the energy of the story because the predators, they are trying to figure something out. And at the same time, our young Comanchee warrior is trying to figure something out about
Starting point is 00:25:40 herself. Everybody else in the film feels like they know everything. The only two characters in the movie that seem like they're trying to to figure out they're on a mission, are the predator and our young warrior, a warrior played by Arru.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Amber Midhunter. Amber Midhunter, who's going to be a fucking star. Oh, yes. No, she's absolutely going to blow up. What I've loved about Tractonburg, especially from Ted McClurefield Lane, and even the shorts that he's directed, is that he knows exactly, like,
Starting point is 00:26:09 what he's trying to do for the first, like, from the jump. Like, he directs with the utmost confidence. What drove me to great, like, a claim for 10 Cloverfield Lane and as well as this is like if it feels like a really good blown up version of a Twilight Zone episode, you've got me.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like it's a perfect premise and it's a perfect premise for the predator because we can assume that this is probably one of the first predators to ever land on earth. Not sure about that. I don't know. Not sure, but it's like, at least for this predator because it's like learning about like the wilderness and the animals. Right, because she's learning about but when she says, I made my brother been going back and forth
Starting point is 00:26:46 because when she says that it resembles a Thunderbird, it almost makes me feel like those they've been trying to come here before. Yeah, but you can tell, by the way, he's messing with the different animals and all that. I'm not going to ruin it for Jones.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Jones, you got to watch. By the way, quick watch, Jones. 139. 139. Not bad. Tight 90. Doug. So you said the extra name,
Starting point is 00:27:09 Amber Midthunder. I'm like in to Google because that name sounds familiar. Legion. Legion. That was, that's the, call me from Leach, I'll for sure have to tap in.
Starting point is 00:27:18 She's amazing. She's great. She's got big things coming on the horizon. We will see her in an X-Men movie for sure. Yeah. All right. Next film up on the list is Nope. Have we all seen it? I have not. But spoil away.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Jummy, I tapped in. Opening weekend. Your thoughts? I liked it. I thought that it was not as great as Get Out, which is a hard bar to clear. But also, you know, much more enjoyable, much more understanding, much more flowing than us. So if I had to give, you know, a, like, slow ranking, it's like Jordan Peel is two for three right now.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And he's on a good run. Like, Nope was, I want to, yeah, it's a record return to form. Like, what we, what can expect from Jordan Pippen? If that's what he's giving us going forward, I'm rocking with it. I'm good. Okay, nope is not a bad movie, but I did not like it. You're not like it. No, man.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Come on, man. Nope is not a bad movie. It's not a bad movie. Jordan Pill is a good filmmaker. It makes good films of good quality. Not only do I not like Nope, it's films like Nope that stretch my patience with people. And I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I think a lot of people that liked this movie are lying to themselves. No. I'm not saying that you are, Jomey. I trust you, Jomey. I trust you, Jomey. Jomey Jomey Jomey
Starting point is 00:28:47 right nobody's going to say that Jomey liked something that he didn't really like you cape for the weirdest things so if you say
Starting point is 00:28:54 you liked it you fucking liked it because you were willing to be the only guy in the room but I think it's a film that a lot of people want to like
Starting point is 00:29:02 because Jordan Pills is such a visionary filmmaker and he is and he's absolutely one of the I just don't understand how he could be that good of a director
Starting point is 00:29:12 however this movie thematically this movie in terms of what it's attempting to do, this is a lot in it not to like. There's a lot in it for me to scratch my head at and be like, there's a lot of things
Starting point is 00:29:27 I don't want to ruin anything for Steve in the film that I'm like, it just, it seems like there's too much of the movie seems like treading water. You know, for me personally. And I think that, you know, I think that there's a lot of reputation. And look, it's just hard to make a,
Starting point is 00:29:45 a lot of reputation is involved in people's perception of the movie. It's hard to make a movie that's not worth watching with Daniel Kalulia, Kiki Palmer, Jordan Pills. It's just hard. You can't do it, Stephen Young, you can't do it, right? Those talents together are going to make a movie that's at least worth watching. But as far as whether or not this movie, whether or not I liked it, I didn't. Like, not really, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:09 I mean, that's completely fair. There are scenes that, like, stick in my head, like, when the, you know, the first time you think Danakoulish characters getting got by aliens. Don't ruin it for Steve! Okay, here's what I will ask. Because having seen Nope, or having seen us and get out,
Starting point is 00:30:27 what do you think is like Jordan Peel's bag given these three movies now? Like, what is he best at? And what does he still feel like he might need to improve on, given the, like, his three movies? I'm in no position professionally to tell Jordan Peel when he has been.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He's just a sublime talent. But I would, What I will say is there's an M-night thing going on here. Now you're talking reckless. I'm not talking out of... I'm interested to see what you think here. That's not even true. There's an M-night thing going on here.
Starting point is 00:30:57 That's nuts. The M-night thing that happens here is directors of this genre sometimes having their movies be crushed under the weight of their own ambitions. At his best, he has a clear narrative. He looks at a target. He hits the target. The thing about Get Out that was revolutionaries, we had no clue what was going on.
Starting point is 00:31:24 It was completely novel, right? What was happening. So the expectations in the movie were subverted by the fact that every single scene had intrigue in it just on its own. You see somebody running in the middle of the right. You're like, why? You see like you see a maid,
Starting point is 00:31:43 a tear dropping down on her eyes. You're like, why? See the teacups situation, you're like, why, why, why, why, why? So the entire movie, not only are you freaked out about what's happening on the screen, but also the intrigue that is surrounding this set of events also has you caught up in a certain type of rapture. You can't do that every movie.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Like for a movie where we all know that it's an alien movie where we're going in there waiting for the alien. So the reveal of the alien is going to be, it's not going to be like that at all. And to use that same pacing or approach that same type of device or come at it from the lens of a twist, you're kind of hampering yourself a little bit. Now, I'm not saying that the movie fails because of that. I'm just saying that like what ended up happening with M. N. Shammala was every single thing that he did ended up being this high concept.
Starting point is 00:32:43 commentary or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And sometimes the movie part of it, people got lost in. And, you know, you look at six cents, which is a very tight, compact movie, even science, tight, compact movie. And then after a while, you become a bigger director, and you have to compromise less, less people have a say in what it is that you're doing, and audiences are leaving your movies scratching their heads. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Because we also, like, in a small way, expect or want, like, another unbreakable or another six cents or another signs when you're kind of just doing this slightly different thing, but we just really want this other thing. Like, M. Knight Shammelan has made like some surprisingly interesting movies in the time that he's like since his quote unquote heyday, but it's never like held a candle to like the stuff that like he's done in the
Starting point is 00:33:37 in the past. Yeah, and that's okay, but I'm not even talking about that. Like he, M. Night Shyamalan has been able to come back show that he's the man. Like he makes movies. Very talented director. Yeah, like the man.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But what I'm saying is when I'm watching Nope, I realize, like, it's like as people, it's the type of movie that people go, well, you didn't realize what he was trying to say. Therefore, you, like, the movie was lost on you. That's not why you go to the movies. Like, I do realize what he was trying to say. I absolutely do get what he was trying to say. That has nothing to do with whether or not I felt like to feel worked or not. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I get the, I get the, I get the, I'm talking too much. Jami, what do you got? Listen, like, the, me and M. Night Shyamalan got beef forever for what he did to the last airbender. So the fact that she would even grace Jordan Pills name and say that in the same breath was, you know, just shocking. And dare I say, just to. disappointing to to hear man that's that's tough don't do that to my guy but i mean to your point though i think you know there was a lot of you know that's why it's not you can't mean you can't do get out all the time you're just not you can't come out every day every day and pitch a perfect game right it just doesn't
Starting point is 00:34:58 work like that yeah we should yeah it's not fair but i think that nope you know got to a was at a place where i wasn't like all like confused after like i left us or like you know just like I don't say despondent, but I left us like in a weird like, what the heck was that? Whereas in, nope, I got it. I was like, okay, I kind of see what's happening here with the whole thing. And not to spoil it for Steve, but like there was, there was something there that I understood that I, you know, really got out of Get Out and I didn't get out of us. So ultimately, I felt like this was a success. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Let's move on to TGM. TGM. Top Gun Maverick, Top Gun Maverick. It's Boy of the Summer. My God. Movie of the Summer? It's not even close. Like, you know me, man.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I'm not really here for the military propaganda. You know, military industrial complex. Not really doing it for me, man. I left this film. I was like, where's my next Navy? Where do I sign up for the Navy, bro? How do I get on? You got you about to join the Navy, Joe?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Dog. Top Gun Maverick is special, man. Let me tell you, let me tell you something. We've all seen it here, right? What's happened to? That last scene, when they all leave the ship to the end of the film, I was set the edge of my seat the whole time, the whole way.
Starting point is 00:36:35 When they go inverted over the mountain, like when they, and they just disappear, that's cinema right there. That's magic. You don't get that every day. You don't get that every year. Only once every 10 years, do you get a filmmaking moment like that?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Talk your shit, Joe, Maverick. Special film. Special film. Loved it. I heard it was good. Joe said it was good. I trust Joe. And so I had expectations going in,
Starting point is 00:37:04 and it's very rare that a movie that you have expectations for lives up to those expectations or even exceeds them. Like RRR is probably my film of the year. No, I can't say what my film of the year is because then you got everything everywhere,
Starting point is 00:37:22 everything everywhere all at once. Oh, you've seen that too? Yeah, that's all right. Okay, we're talking about that too. It's just, the fucking movie is just great. It was amazing. It managed to eclipse the original Top Gun, brash new characters.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It did not become a melodrama of its former. It didn't add it a new dimension to a character that was 60 years old. Man. It took him on a new journey. You know, it's just nuts. Never. I mean, I had the same thing.
Starting point is 00:37:55 We got out of Dr. Strange, multiple of us of madness. And we were talking to Sean Fennacy and Chris Ryan. And, you know, we see a top gun poster. And they were like, you know, I forget who acts. Like, is this movie good? They're like, guys, movies, movie's great. Yeah. I was like, Sean Fantasy and Chris Ryan.
Starting point is 00:38:12 is great, it's great. Again, I got to tell you a story, actually. I go see it, I think Memorial Day, Memorial Day night, the first one. I see the IMAX, right? Again, I'm on Cloud 9. It's the best thing I've ever seen. I'm living my best life. I'm like, wow, this is great.
Starting point is 00:38:29 You're the best. I go, first thing I do after leaving Top Gun Maverick, I put my Spotify on, I turn on Danger Zone. Gotcha. and I'm leaving the theater, Danger zone on, bro. And I'm like, bro, I'm on cloud nine. I'm top of the world. I look in my rear mirror.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Wee, woo, will, will. Lights. And I'm in my head, I'm thinking, oh, bro. I had to be doing like, you know, I wasn't going too crazy. It's like, was that speed? You might have been in the danger zone, though. You might have been in the danger zone.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You know, I pull over to the, Carl's in your parking lot. I'm like, I got, I got, got, right. It's my fault. I was, I was too high
Starting point is 00:39:15 on my own supply. Movie got me. He saw me. Dude, come, sheriff comes to my window. Hey, man. Drink it a night?
Starting point is 00:39:23 No, man, I just left the theater. Oh, for show, for show. Yeah, your lights were off.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And so, you know, Memorial Day weekend, we got to be careful. And I was like, yo, I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:39:34 All that? For this? I mean, your lights were off. But you could have, you could have just be like, hey man turn your lights off i'd be like all right for sure thanks officer i was funny they just like flash the bright side on you'd be like hey what's funny is that
Starting point is 00:39:46 joey would be the guy to think that he was being a badass speeding with his lights off he was just going 30 i for sure wasn't paying attention he's going 40 miles an hour with his lights off he was 40 to 45 for show thought i was cooked he just turned lights off check my registration my license like i have a nice night i got home Played the song, bro. I wasn't even like 75 seconds into the song when I got pulled over. You was too excited. I was too excited.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I got too excited. No, but man, I tell you, I went to see it a second time, felt the same way again in theaters. I'm going to go see it at third. It's back in theaters. I think either last week or this week is coming back. So I need to tap back in. And then as soon as it's on a DVD, Blu-ray, I'm picking it up. I need it in my life, man.
Starting point is 00:40:39 What a special film. How hard did you cry when they brought out Val Kilmer? I didn't cry when they brought him out, but, you know, when he, he rest in peace, it was tough. It was tough. Because you knew that was coming, right? With the text and then he sees him. And then, like, you know, the first thing his wife says to Mav is, yeah, it came back. I'm like, ah, they're going to get my man and mice man out of here, man.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's on the way. And then to see, you know, see Mav put the. the wings in the coffin. After all they went through in the first top gun, come in friends. It's hard, man. But then the next, literally the next scene is him
Starting point is 00:41:20 flying the, man. You know, it's great, man. Just fantastic. I can't say enough how much I love this movie. Really good stuff. I don't care for it's propaganda. I'm in. You're into it. I'm into it. You let me in. I'm locked in. I'm locked in.
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Starting point is 00:42:53 From the highest of highs to the lowest, the lows. That's tough. I never saw it. I just wanted Jomey to do a windmill dunk on this movie real quick. So here's what's good, right? Steve was there. So we went to see Lightyear, the Ring of Verse crew. It was me.
Starting point is 00:43:10 This was the wildest thing that I think Jomey's ever done voluntarily for the sake of time. It was me, Steve, Arjuna, Sahara, Adam, and Mallory. And we go see Lightyear, you know, for his recovering on Mid Edition. And it was cool. And I had plans in L.A. at like five. And this was around like, maybe like one. I was like, I'm not going to go home and then come all the way back to L.A. for the screening.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Let me just. So here, what's watched, what's gone. Oh, Jurassic World Dominion. Dominion. I like dinosaurs. You know, Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard. How much worse can this movie be than Fallen Kingdom?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Because I saw Fallen Kingdom in college, like for, like just at the crib. And it was like I saw for free in school and it was like the worst film I ever seen. Like I wanted a refund for watching a free movie. That's how bad it was. And so I'm coming to you, Arjuna. Don't you, don't you, don't you,
Starting point is 00:44:11 don't you, you know, hurry about that. Don't you worry about that. and I watch it and I was like so yeah let me just go see Dominion like it can't be that bad it was awful it was legitimately terrible I still don't
Starting point is 00:44:28 well I still don't think it's as bad as Fallen Kingdom I think Fallen Kingdom was like disgustingly horrendous like just an affront to filmmaking as as a whole but this movie was pretty close like my God the greatest sin you could ever possibly commit in movies is making dinosaurs boring. But it's not,
Starting point is 00:44:48 no, Steve, it's not that they make the dinosaurs boring. Like, it's, it's Jurassic Park movie. Jurassic World movie, it's not that the dinosaurs are boring. It's like the dinosaurs aren't like,
Starting point is 00:44:58 don't affect the plot at all. If they're not like monsters or whatnot. The main thing that we focused on, the main thing we learned about, the main thing that we engaged with in this film, not dinosaurs, it was locust, man. Locus.
Starting point is 00:45:11 That was the thing that set the whole movie in motion. That was the thing. Look, frankly, I have no good things to say about this film other than the fact that the original three came back, Alan Grant, Laura Dern's character, and Ian Malcolm were all there. And it was nice.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They were the B plot and they were more interesting. And even then, it was two pack of cheeks, bro. It was bad. Like maybe I don't, maybe I don't love myself enough to have the assertion to be, like, hey, man, maybe I shouldn't spend, you know, $12 on this movie. It did give me free serious XM for four months, though.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Is that true? It did. They gave you free serious XM for them? Yeah. All right. Well. Because I gave you, what? They gave you what?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Free serious XM because I bought it online. You bought a tick. Man, they're just giving that away. They're just giving that away. It was nuts. But yeah, the movie stunk. And so if you're listening to the sound of my voice, or love yourself, do anything?
Starting point is 00:46:14 else, go see your family, you know, call your mom, you know, water your plans. Watch paint dry, but don't watch Jurassic World Dominion. Dude, they spent, I don't know if you guys have seen Fallen Kingdom, but they spend like the entire movie worrying about that freaking clone teenager who in the first film let all the dinosaurs out. And she was like, they're just like me. I was like, cool. So you just like let dinosaurs loose on the world because you feel kinship with some lizards? What's wrong with you? You can't waste Laura Dern and Jeff Goldman like that. Well, they did. They did pretty hard.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Movie stinks, man. You don't like it. No. I'd like a lot of stuff. But not that. Don't like that. Bullet trained. Oh, I'm back. You're back. Steve, get your takeoff. I think Brad Pitt is not a leading man. And I'm going to explain this. I think he is better served as the side guy that is bouncing off the straight man. I think we see it in Ocean's 11.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I think we see it in 12 monkeys. I think we see it in some of the best movies that he's in. Once upon a time in Hollywood, the list can go on. I had a fun time with Bullet Train. I just, I don't really think that it's anchored too much with Brad Pitt's performance. Again, this movie is like a funny, fun, dumb, assassins on a train. movie. I'm not going to expect too much out of it. But I just, I
Starting point is 00:47:42 really feel like Brad Pitt could have been somebody wackier in this movie and I might have had a bit more fun with it. See, here's the thing. I don't disagree with your overall take but in this film I think he played perfectly. Not only that,
Starting point is 00:47:58 I'm going to go ahead and say this is the second best film I saw in theaters all year. I had so much fun in this movie. Interesting. Okay. From start to finish. I would say it was fun. enough. It was fun enough. Nah, see you underselling it. Lemon and Tangerine were the two
Starting point is 00:48:14 best characters I saw, like outside of Top Gun Maverick that I saw in a theater this year. Every single conversation, every single engagement, like made me feel something where it was laughter or pain or sadness or
Starting point is 00:48:30 love. And Brad Pitt plays off everybody well because he's the only person who's like, got like any sense like any brain sense. Like, hey, man, maybe we shouldn't be doing this. But yet he's, like, also involved in the chicanery. It was, like, again, from beginning to end,
Starting point is 00:48:49 just a thrill right that I loved every single second of it. Even though at the end, it looks like they, like, just bought, like, it was like a, the world's biggest green screen. And they were, like, Sandra Bullock and Brad Pitt just ripped for five minutes. That looked rough, but it was perfect. I loved it. not as big a fan of Bullet Train. Bullet Train was a fun time in the movies.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I didn't dig Brad Pitt's performance in Bullet Train at all. I thought it was the weakest part of the movie. It was just flat. I don't. And again, I think that's part of the thing, right? He's supposed to be like trying to find level. Like literally, trying to flatten himself out. So for him to be like, hey, maybe we should take a step back and not be, you know, all too
Starting point is 00:49:35 while. Like, that's his whole thing. I didn't think that that was that was like here here are here are a list of movies though where Brad Pitt is the lead legends of the fall okay okay seven years in Tibet uh-huh meet Joe black I'm not even going to count seven because he shares the screen he shares it with Morgan Freeman Morgan Freeman with Morgan Freeman Troy I that was he's for sure the lead in Troy is sure the lead he's for sure the lead in Troy for sure the lead in Troy um I'm going to leave out Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
Starting point is 00:50:09 They're sharing the lead there. Great movie. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. I'm talking about he's, it's all him. Curious case, Moneyball. He was good in Moneyball. He was very good in Moneyball. I mean, he's good in a lot of movies.
Starting point is 00:50:22 He's fucking Brad Pitt. I know, yeah. World War Z. Underrated movie. At this point, I am going to stop. Oh, I mean, did you guys ever see Fury? I like Fury. Ad Astra.
Starting point is 00:50:37 At Astra was me. I like Ad Astra. But again, but it's like those for me never, like none of those movies, I don't think outside of like seven, but like rank in like some of the all time Brad Pitt performances that like we talk about
Starting point is 00:50:52 to this day. Not Benjamin Button. Yeah? Wow. Not really. Not Troy. You don't fucking like Troy. I mean, is that going to hold a candle to like Rusty in any of the Oceans movies in anything that you He's better.
Starting point is 00:51:08 First of all, there's no lead. If he's not, so George Clooney's the lead in, but like, I don't know if you're going to give George Clooney the lead for, for Oceans 11, I should be able to say that Brad Pitt's the lead of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah, I mean, you could, but like, he's at least like co-chairing a lead in the best movies that he has. Because like, once upon a time in Hollywood, fantastic performance of his. interview with a vampire, like holding that up with Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:51:39 He's the lead of interviewing of interviewing a vampire. He is the lead. He is, so in interview with the vampire, Brad Pitt is the Danny Ocean of, of, of that movie. He's in the movie with Tom Cruise play. He's the lead of that movie. He's the lead of interview. I wouldn't call him the lead in snatch.
Starting point is 00:51:58 No. Like, but like, I think of the ones that I, that I like really dig him in, like, he's like either co-leading or not that lead. And I just think it's, I just think it's a little interesting. Burn after reading. Fuck. Like, that was so good of him. Yeah, but I mean, those are ensemble movies that you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Fight Club. He's a support. He's with Edward Norton. That's like, no, no, no. He's not the lead in that. Edward Norton, certainly the lead. Yeah. Even though they're both playing the same character.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Sure. You know, assassination of Jesse James maybe, but like that's a. Nah, that's definitely. By the way, I love. Great movie. Amazing movie. I love. love that movie, but that's got to be Casey the weirdo Affleck.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah. As the, it was an interesting thought experiment that I had with Brad Pitt movies. I don't disagree. I was just throwing it out there. I don't disagree. I will let the audience judge. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Everything, everywhere, all at once. Man, so good. Such a, such a, I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I, you know, it was happening. I was like, yeah, you got to go see it. So made my way to theater. and it was a spectacular film. Very surprising about how emotional it was.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I did not expect that at all. And I loved every second of it. Absolutely knocked me on my ass. I think the Daniels are like probably like coming up in like the YouTube era of filmmaking and like kind of like really like tapped into like some absurdist notions when it comes to making movies. I think that their creative spark is like just so bright and incredible to see with this movie.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Like I'm so stunned with what they did with this. It's like the most movie I've ever seen. It's like it's probably has like like on a scale with RRR, like it has like kind of almost every like emotional beat you could ever have in a movie crammed into one. And sometimes that works for some people.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Sometimes it doesn't it like it worked like a charm for me. It was absolutely incredible. This is what I would say. Me and Kalika went through the, is this as good as everybody said. It is at first. And then all of a sudden, God damn, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:15 What was that moment for you? I can't remember. But it just, the performances are so great. Joe Bo Tupacchi. My man, short round is back. Let me give these actors there to do. Because the reality of the situation is to move just at the end of the movie
Starting point is 00:54:33 I was just a wet noodle of emotion it rips it's just it was so fucking crazy now Kalika had some problems with she didn't like the fact that I don't know if you talked to her about this Steve she said she didn't like the fact that the woman was portrayed in the way
Starting point is 00:54:50 she was well I think that was an interesting an interesting thing well like to know that again we're spoiling everything here but like to know that like ultimately like she had to be the one that changes for the sake of the universe being whole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And knowing that like, like, that a woman has to change in order to fix everything. And I, like, that was essentially Kalika's take. Calikas be. That's probably my fault, though. That probably has less to do with the movie and more to do with me. Well, but, but like, I think it's an interesting notion because, like, it's to know that, like, she, like, that her, uh, that Evelyn's character is like the quote unquote worst version of herself.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah. Like this is the lowest that that character has been in all of the iterations of all universes, of all things. And to know that like she has nowhere to go but up
Starting point is 00:55:41 and nowhere to look but up for herself and for her family and for her daughter and everybody. I think that that was kind of the notion that the movie was trying to give.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But I think that's certainly valid opinion. I agree. And I think that like it's so, so beautifully poignant. Like I, where I like absolutely lost it was
Starting point is 00:56:02 the line like I would have like in another life I would have loved doing laundry and taxes with you like I just oh yeah it's dope incredible because he looks so suave what he's saying that he's fucking Don Draper in the rain just like smoking a cigarette like knowing that like Stephanie who yeah in the last scene he was just like this like guy in a fanny pack like groveling to his wife and now he's just like a
Starting point is 00:56:25 fucking man in a suit with like hitting on Michelle yo like you know what worked for me, Rackacconi. I don't know why it says, so, I don't know why Rackacconi worked for me. Like, Rackacconi, I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:37 this movie get off. Like, I think that I'm like, because of Bowsman, I'm obsessed with animals. And like, I was like, God damn. Every time they will cut back to Rackacconi, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:56:48 please go figure out Rackacconi. And they're like running, like in the parking lot. Like, yeah. So funny. Like, they, this movie had people putting butt plugs in themselves.
Starting point is 00:56:59 to learn kung fu and made me cry over rocks. Yeah. The rock scene was great. Rock scene was so beautiful. Where they're like, let's just sit here because it makes sense. Like, oh my God. Hot dog fingers, nasty. Hated it.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Beautiful. I didn't like any, nope. Hated it. No. Glorious. Just hated it. I'm not going to hold you. Hated it.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Every time I saw it. Jamie Lee Curtis, man. When they bite into it and ketchup and mustard come out, I almost vomited in the theater. I was like, like, I hated it, hated it, hated it. It's making me sick now. It's time for a category with only one entry, in my opinion. TV shows.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And in Europe. TV shows. It's not better call Saul, sorry enough. I'm sorry, man. I like better call Saul, but that breaking bad take is fucking out of here. I'm ready to litigate that. On midnight court? You can't tell.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Better, come on, man. I think Joanna might join you in the opposition for Midnight Court. So Better Call Saul. She says yes it is or no, it's not? I'll get her official opinion from it, but I know that she likes the finale of Better Call Saul better than the finale of Breaking Bad. I know that for sure. Better Call Saul.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Show's in the summer. It's only one show. It's the best new TV show in years, The Bear. Yes, Chef. Yes, Chef. Yes, Jeff. Yes, yes, Jeff. Yes, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I don't understand how a show sets that high a quality bar and doesn't miss a scene. A scene? Yeah. You mean, tell me, you don't have a, you don't miss a scene. They do one 20 minute long episode all in one shot that is one of the most outstanding television achievements I've ever seen before in my life. Yes. It's wild. A scene, you don't miss a scene?
Starting point is 00:58:55 It's nuts. And that's the thing. Like, this show was nothing but good word of mouth. after the fact, I heard from one person that, like, you should see this. Like, I was sold on the Chicago of it all because, like, that was like the one thing. Like, it was guy from Shameless. It's set in Chicago again. I'm like, all right, I'll give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Uh, and like, it was this slow, like, internet, like, simmering pot of hype where like, they're like, oh, like, hot, hot dirty guy is, is the chef. An amazing winner episode. And then John Bernthal Canyo for no reason. That, like, blows the doors off of the entire show. like incredible. Just put them in there to bust our heads open. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Like the beauty of that like one cameo is the fact that like they always talk up that brother like in the entire show. And they're like what like are we ever going to see him? Like what like what makes that brother so special? Like how could he like carry an entire room? And just making him John Byrne fall is like, okay great.
Starting point is 00:59:53 You've sold it. Like that's exactly why. It's perfect. It's a perfect show. I can't wait to see what season two could possibly bring. But that's the thing, though, like, if they never made another season of that show, I'd be perfectly happy.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Oh, shut the fuck up. Say that that's not a perfect single... Steve, stop the cap. Say that's not a perfect single circle of a story. Play it. Play it. Jesus. Man, I'm so mad.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You don't think that if you don't think that's like a perfect, like, single circle of a story. It could be, but we got to bring that back, though. I know that. I know that. But, like, you know how the business is. You know how TV can be nowadays that, like, people just get. it's too much depressing shit going on in the world
Starting point is 01:00:31 for us not to get another season of the bear. I understand that. I understand that. But like with the way that the world is and with the businesses being like, okay, well, the bear flopped, like didn't do the numbers, all that stuff. Did the bear flop? No, no, it didn't. But like, I could easily see a world.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'm just saying, I could easily see a world where this like perfect little jewel box of a show was just left underappreciated and never got a second season. No chance. No, baby. We're not going to freak some geeks this one. Good. And I'm very glad. I'm very, very glad. But like, man, this was like a perfect little thing. And I'm so happy that we get more.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I'm so happy. I'm happy too. Well, why don't you act like you're happy then? I am happy. And stop trying to call on for one season or the bear. I'm not calling on for one season of the bear. That's what you just said. That's what you just said.
Starting point is 01:01:13 That's what you're in a terrible world, terrible timeline where we never got a season two, I'm still so happy that we got that one season. That's what I'm saying. That's weird. Damn. That's funny. It's kind of. You're like, you don't want more of the bear.
Starting point is 01:01:30 What are you some kind of closet bear hater? No, I love the bear. You hate bears. You don't like it. I'm from Chicago. I rooted for the bears. I don't know. But I see, that's another reason why I think you're afraid that this show takes the,
Starting point is 01:01:43 I think you're afraid to be the second best white boy from Chicago now. I mean, listen. Very low bar to clear. But you were number one. Bill Murray had abdicated his throne a long time ago. Like you were number one. and now the bear man came in. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Jeremy Allen White. Jeremy Allen White. Jeremy Allen White is his name. Now, bust this. What about him as Wolverine? Guy asked the question. I think it's fun. I think that's a fair choice.
Starting point is 01:02:10 And then we could easily just do Richie as Sabreto. Wichie as Sabreto. Nah, man. Rishie can't be a saber to. The best line ever. And a line that made me really feel you
Starting point is 01:02:26 4chan Q&on Snyder Cup motherfuckers I was like God damn I'm like am I a Snyder cut motherfucker motherfucker? Am I I'm not a 4chan Q and on but am I
Starting point is 01:02:42 I definitely was kind of a Snyder cut motherfucker I was not I was the thing about Richie I love how he's like a secret nerd because he like randomly will reference like Philip K Dick and say like what's up you fucking replicants and stuff like where it's like he's trying to like hide that he's not like
Starting point is 01:03:00 kind of either like a book or science fiction nerd kind of and I love that an incredible little character great great lines from him. Yeah. You guys that is it. It's not done. We're not done.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Van, you had a take before we started to record. What was the take? What was the take? The rebels tape. Oh yeah. Star Wars Rebels is better than Avatar or last album. See, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna. And so, see, here's the thing,
Starting point is 01:03:29 because, like, they're both great shows, right? Like, let's not even, let's not even, like, cat, right? Both excellent television shows, right? I do think they occupy a different space, but we don't have to, like, that's way too in the weeds. Ultimately, I think you come up short, pal. Ultimately, I think it's close. I think it's really close.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's the thing, but there's, there's been a part. How far have you gotten in Avatar? Where did you stop? Third season. Third season. Yeah. I'm enjoying it. It's a great show.
Starting point is 01:04:00 But I got back into my Rebels back. Uh-huh. Rebels is perfect Star Wars. I don't be honest with you. Rebels is, Rebels is perfect Star Wars to me. Rebels is perfect Star Wars. A story with Jedi,
Starting point is 01:04:15 that's not about the Jedi. A story that takes every single character on an arc. Rebels is perfect Star Wars. Perfect Star Wars. I'm so fascinating. that like Avatar just hasn't like locked in with you. Like there hasn't been a part where like it's like it's stuck and you're just in. It might be a touch too kitty.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Maybe. It might be a touch. Avatar is great. I'm not hating on Avatar. I don't want to know, guys. It might be a touch too kitty. Interesting because like there would have been a time by now where you're just like absolutely locked in like there's nothing that's going to distract you from finishing this story.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And like it might not have stuck. The spaghetti might not have stuck. You're on season three. I don't know the specific episode. Boy, then you've, I mean, arguably to me, you've gotten past the best episode of the series already. Which is the best episode of the series to you? Crossroads of Destiny.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Crossroads of Destiny. It's the finale of Season 2. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I dig. You guys saw that. Right, yeah. Yeah, like, that's the best episode of the series of me. Crossroads. I just think about Bone Thuss and Harmony, baby.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It's the end of. Y'all are nuts. I don't know. I love Rebels. I think, I mean, Rebels is, I mean, Rebels is better than Clone Wars for the simple fact that, like, it's just tighter. They're telling one story, you know. I love, like, the highs of Clone Wars are special, but just like, if you're talking as a whole, you got to go with Rebels. But I don't really see it.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Like, Avatar, like, it's just different. I think the reach of Avatar and what it means to a lot of people and the themes that it explores puts it on a, much different wavelength than rebels, even though I understand what you're coming from. That's why I'm not like too mad about it, because I see the vision, but I just can't get there. I just can't get there.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I feel you. I feel you. All right, guys, that is a wrap on the show today, which was a very fun show to do. Hopefully Charles is somewhere pouring saracha down his back. My God, man.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That's the kind of stuff he does. I don't know what kind of freak. I want to know his brands. Is he like a top of tail guy? What did you say? Say that again. Tapateo. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Tapateo? Is that not how? Go cook this man. Cook this man in the comment. Steve. Say it again. Say it again. Say it more time.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Steve, say it for the people. I'm not saying it. It's already on Mike. No, Steve, we just need you one more time, bro. There's one more time. Say it. What happened to be nice to Steve?
Starting point is 01:06:45 What happened to that? It's out the fucking window. God damn it. This is as soon as it came. You just did it. You did it to yourself. Tapatio, Steve. Tapatio, Steve.
Starting point is 01:06:57 That's how agents do. I'm going to make sure I set up my ring camera the next time you come in my house. All right. That's a wrap. Thursday, Min Edition returns to give their thoughts on the season premiere of She-Hulk. She-Hulk has just received an 87% from 93 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I honestly thought it would be a little higher. I love She-Hoke.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It might be. We'll get there. I love She-Hulk. Friday, House of R is previewing House of the Dragon. House of the Dragon, yeah, yeah. The Sunday, Talk the Thrones, it makes his return with Chris Ryan, C.R. Army. Mal and Joe give you their instant reactions to House of the Dragon. And Tuesday, the House of Our Our Our Our Our Dogged is Steve, the Architect Alman.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Jomi Adirond is on social, hashtag. Jome in the line, rock your body in time. All right, man. Come on. Joan in the line, rock your body in time. Okay, I believe you. Don't know. See what you.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Rock your body on time. Okay. Steve, if he was tapped in, you would have made like a high school musical two joke because today is... Dude, we've got infinite amounts of jokes for this. Hold on. I got a list. Today is the 15th anniversary of high school two,
Starting point is 01:08:12 and you can read my piece on why it's better than the original high school musical. Right now with the wringer.com. Check it out. Man, y'all will read that shit. And after y'all read it, ask yourself what you really doing. with your life. Additional production from Arjuna, Ron Gapal.
Starting point is 01:08:32 We are not even going to attempt the Charles sign-off today, because that's for Charles. Charles. Charles has to do the Charles sign-off. Charles is somewhere right now. It's very hard. It's very hard to do.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Charles is somewhere right now. He's got like a full bottle of Louisiana hot sauce. And for some reason, and he's dripping it down his chest like L.O. Cool J. I don't know why. I don't know why
Starting point is 01:08:56 the brunch hot he is who he is, but he's got a hot sauce fetish and now we know. I never thought that my man would have a hot sauce finish. But he does. So, there you guys. My God.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Everybody, one, two, three. We are out of the midnight boys. Just got a hot take alert from Twitter. Oh, boy. He says that or as she says, I'm not sure. Hot take Margo Robbie's Harley Quinn is the best character going right now in the DCEU.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Just real quick, what do you guys think? Of the surviving characters of the DCEU, yes, I would agree. Yeah, I think that's not too crazy. I mean, like, it's not crazy at all. No. She's got a couple movies, right? She's got like three, four movies under her belt,
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