The Ringer-Verse - The 2022 Versies Awards

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

It's time to take a look back at 2022 as the entire Ringer-Verse family takes a look back and gives out some of the nest awards of the year form hand picked categories from Heartthrob of the Year, Sidekick of the Year, and many many more! Hosts: Joanna Robinson, Mallory Rubin, Van Lathan, and Charles Holmes Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Trading derivatives involve significant risk and may not be suitable for all investors. Manage your activity with our consumer protection tool. Restrictions apply. See terms at vandual.com slash predict slash bonus dash offer dash herms. Hello and welcome to the ringerverse. We are reporting live from the red carpet of the 2022 Versies Awards where we'll be celebrating the best of this past year in fandom and all of the stars are out tonight. Jomi, I see you're live with Van.

and Mal what's going on over there? Yeah, ma'am here the red carpet with Van Lathan and Mallory Rubin. Mal, I see that you've brought Halo with you. Of course, who else would you bring to the Verses with you? He's got an incredible outfit on.

Who is Halo wearing right now? Yeah, Halo is wearing the finest all natural look that he got from the local boutique right here in our home. He's ready today and always to celebrate the beauty and majesty of fandom and community, and he's looking sharp.

I am wearing a ringer t-shirt and Nike yoga pants. Thank you for asking, Jomi. It's great to be here with you all. Oh, only the best. Only the best for the Verses. And Van Lathan, you're no stranger to award shows. You know what I'm saying? Mr. Oscar winner.

How does the Verses compare to one of the biggest, you know, the biggest achievement in Hollywood? It compares, it pales in comparison. In many ways But in other ways It's much more important But I don't want to talk about me or awards I want to talk about animals living in their natural habitat

Everywhere all across the United States There are animals whose habitats are being choked off Daily, hourly, and by the second And what we can do as people Is support legislation all over this country To make sure that animals In respect and out of love For my fallen brother, P-22

P-22. have places to roam and places to go. It's not about me tonight. It's about our furry and feathered friends who are losing their habitats because of the inactivity of people in Washington, people in Sacramento, and people all over the place. We have to do better for our wildlife friends. Wow, just incredible words, fan.

Thank you so much. Steve, I mean, wow. What a speech. We're in for a great one tonight. Absolutely rousing stuff. And I'm here with Charles Holmes and Joanna Robinson of the, the ring reverse. Charles, this was a big year for the hierarchies of power changing. What was the biggest change for you that happened in this year of 2022? You know, probably hitching my wagon to

a falling star. I think my reputation as a critic probably took the biggest it. That was the biggest change. The hierarchy of people's respect for me has definitely changed this year. No argument there. Now, Jonas, you're no stranger to award show after parties. Tell me what celebrity do you intend to name drop after this evening? Oh, well, if I could spend some one-on-one time with the Hater-in-chief Charles Holmes, I'm going to brag to everyone about it. Hell yes. The Hater Aid is strong. Oh, it's flowing tonight. Trust me. Well, that's going to about do it for us for our red carpet show, and we are about to start the show

back to you in the studio. All right, and welcome to the 2022. Verses. We have a couple rules to go down. First of all, our four hosts, Mal, Van, and Joanna, and Charles. We'll each present two awards categories. Jomi and I will be presenting awards as well, along with each category and will include five nominees. The presenter of each award will explain the award and lay out their nominees. There will be a few minutes of discussion and revisitation of the category and nominations for the other three hosts. will call the vote, Jomi will then announce the winner. If there's a tiebreaker, Jomi and I will decide who does get the award for that year. Who gave you the power?

Who gave you the right? I believe that whoever wrote this document. The hierarchy of power has to be achieved. The integrity of the votes will be sustained. The inmates are running the asylum. That's right. I will tease the next presenter. And then throughout the day, friends of the pod will be sharing their

honorary verses as well. Anything that aired in the year of our Lord 2022 is eligible, including shows that began in 2021, but mostly ran in 22. Like the Book of Boba Fett. That means there may be some overlap in some of our March verses, which did occur during the Oscar season and which, you know,

don't worry about that. Spoilers for pretty much everything that came out in 2022 and in this here nerd verse. But without further ado, I present you Van Lathen with the first award of the evening. Thank you very much. Look,

nothing can be done in this world without teamwork. Teamwork is a tenet of accomplishment, of achievement. It's one of the finest things that we as human beings do about 10%

of the time. So I would like to take a look back at the best contributors of this past year. It's my award. The Sidekick of the Year award. Thank you very much. Sidekick of the year. All right.

First nominee. Plucky Genius who has a crush. Unrequited love. Always good to be made. Sidekick. Some say it's the friend zone. Some say that's toxic. It's Bruno from Miss Marvel.

Second nominee. someone who is a headliner in their world, but a sidekick in another. Through this one in, just to bother you guys. Very bothered. Mandalorian. This is bullshit. Outrageous.

Category fraud. It's a book of Boba Fett brought on to help Boba in his adventures, by definition. A sidekick. Third nominee. from Moon Knight One of the best costumes

in Marvel history Someone we were all excited to see Scarlet Scarlet's care Another entry from the book of Boba Fett A life partner That sometimes doesn't have a life Because she's always out killing people

Like the master of sashing she is Phenic The Book of Boatheat And last But certainly not least, an insane person, a nerd, a virgin, vigilante from Peacemaker. You guys, and there are your nominees for Sidekick of the Year,

with the conversation commence. This team is not getting it done. I'll just say that. This is scraping the bottom of the sidekick barrel. Okay, so I'm pretty sure. So I still, to the shock and horror of all, Rear and Versal listeners have not watched any peacemaker. But I'm pretty sure that, like,

original Dick and Tarley vigilante is going to take this category because of how people feel about him in general. So I'm just going to voice my support for Bruno and Miss Marvel. I loved Bruno. Real high point of Miss Marvel for me. And you got to have a tech guy. And, you know, he's an outstanding tech guy. So support for Bruno.

You need a guy in the chair. However, I'd also say, to quote a modern day poet and philosopher, Adrian Chase Vigilante, there's no wrong time to rock motherfucker. This is so clearly the pick. What an incredible performance from Freddie Stroma, hilarious line-to-line minutes, man. And I think in terms of the spirit of the category, the truest actual sidekick. Like, some of these characters are leading figures in their own right. I think we'd all happily watch Fennick go on all of her own missions.

I think we all agree that Mando dominated the titular character of his own show so fully that he cannot actually be considered a sidekick. I think it's got it. It's a Bruno Vigilante show, Dan. I'm casting my vote for Vigelanti. I think I got to go Fennick. Fennick, like, here's the thing. If Fennick was not around Boba, he's not getting anything done. She is more than pulling her weight as a sidekick, which, to Mow's point, does that make her a sidekick anymore? If she's actually doing more than the actual hero. I would say Fennig had a better show for sure. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like. Then I guess I have to go by it to Vigilante by the whole thing. I mean, you can't have that many viral clips without mentioning Vigilante because almost every scene he's in, he steals. I think I have to cast my vote for Vigilante. Yeah. Try to put Mando in here is like when someone really trying to get an Oscar really bad. Yeah.

So they put them in the best supporting characters category. So it's been like, hey, man. It happens. You know, it happens. Category fraud. Scandal. Outrage. By the way, they knew it and got away with it.

I'd be honest with you, I don't think that Marlon Brando's portrayal and the Godfather is a best actor nominee. I think that's a supporting character. Okay. And so it happens. Look, I made this, I made up this category just so vigilantee could win because I love that character. It's clear. But also, I want to let all of you Mando stands know

all you Boba Fett Erasure people that, yeah, if in that show, he was a sidekick to Boba. I did that just to piss you guys off. My vote is for Vigilante. Honorable mention for Finney. All right. Let's get into it then.

All right. Mal, who are you rolling with? Vigilante. Joanna? Loan vote for Bruno. Charles? All right, I'm going to go Phenic, just to mix it up. And Van, Vigilante.

There you have it. The psychic of the year is Vigilante from Peacemaker. And he's woke. And he's a woke brother as well. Mel, you're up next. All right. This is a bit of a sister category to Vans. My first versy of the day is the most lovable, magical creature or droid.

Here are my five nominees. I feel like I need to take like a full swing of Gatorade and maybe a puff of my inhaler before I begin running through these. First up, our buddy, B, B2, Emo from Andor, the emotion, the divine, the divine. The courage, the best Star Wars droids make me, and I think many of us, think of the bonds in our lives with our beloved pets. And when I saw B run to the door to greet Cassian or nuzzle by Marva's chair after she was gone or beg to speak to try to keep his family together, I felt a love and a sense of belonging that filled me with warmth and joy. Be mechanically whimpered and

excitedly word his way into our hearts and I simply could not love him more. Protect be at all cost. Next nominee, another showing for peacemaker here. It's our feathery friend, Eagley. We toasted Eagley a lot in our March versies, but I think he deserves further recognition here. Intuitive, innovative, tender, a companion whose ferocity as a warrior is outstripped only by the ferocity of his friendship. Eagley, we extend our arms and love and admiration and await the soothing envelopment of your wings. Next nominee, Lola. Obi-1-Kadobie ever heard of it. Now, not every droid actually speaks English speaks basic like B, but they all speak in a fashion. They all tell us what they're thinking and feeling and dare I say what we're thinking and feeling, what we need.

to know about ourselves and the nature of connection. Through beeps and boops, through persistent bursts of hovering flight, Lola helped little Leah forge her path as a guide and as a leader and helps our beloved Obi-1 Kenobi find his courage. Next nominee. Enter. Caraxis! Hot D.

House of the Dragon. The bloodworm. Never more than a wing beat away from craning his serpentine neck. into view to make you soil your small clothes on the bridge of Dragonstone, or from crushing a foolish waiting minion beneath his talons, Prince Daim. Or from ramming a ship to kick off an incestual courtship ritual. Every hot D. Steed earned my consideration and had the award been most formidable,

or most composed, or sweetest and tiny. I might have gone with Agar or Syrac or ARAx, respectively, but across our time jumps, our wars, our bouts of intimidation, Karaxes was always within reach of a fire plume and our admiration. Finally today, a late-breaking entrant, Paiacan, from Avatar the Way of Water, knocking out Ambrosia from the boys,

who I will toss out as an honorable mention, because love comes in many forms. I can hear Joanna chiming in now to say phrasing. This majestic Tulkoon swam his way into my soul, taking me on a three-dimensional tour of Pandora's waters and James Cameron's mind for legit, no joke, an hour in the middle of this movie. Biocon challenged convention to defend his family, and I reach out now toward him as Loweck did,

grasping his fin in fellowship. Could I have left Piochon off this list? Maybe. Yes. But to quote Paiacan himself, the mere thought would be too painful. I open it up to the floor. Charles, let's start with you.

B2 emo's running circles. Like, it's not even competition. Like, B2 emo is like, it's kind of unfair. It's just, he's too talented. He's, done too much. The resume's there. The academy has been ignoring him for too long.

He's our Leonardo DiCaprio. It has to be P2 Ema. Okay, so I just want to, I'm not going to pick Eagley, but I just want Eagley to know that I care about him. Yeah. Okay. Eagley is somewhere. I talked about animals earlier.

Eagley has meant a lot to me. Sounds like you're setting yourself up to stab Eagley in the back right now. I'm not stabbing Eagley in the back. Seems like you're not an animal lover, Van. I'm telling you right now that, there's somebody that means a little bit more to me, and that's B2 emo. I think about B2 emo.

I'm concerned about B2 emo. I want to know, I don't even want to know, I don't even, here's the thing about B2 emo. I care about how this is affecting B2 emo emotionally. Yeah, I'm concerned for the safety of B2 emo, but I just want to know if B2 emo is okay.

You know what I mean? If all of this has been too much, I am very connected to B2 emo, so it would be a lie for me not. to go with B2 emo in this category. Thank you, Van, the Animal Heater. I remember when Lola showed up on Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Mallor was like,

Oh, Lola, I love Lola. I'm going to get my own Lola, I love Lola, and then B2 Emo rolled on the scene. And Meller is like, Lola, that glorified disc man, don't need her, don't want her. It's V all the way, baby. Yeah, it's got a B2 email. Lola was compromised.

It's not, yeah. Well, it was a little bit of a traitor. You know what I mean? Lola overcame that setback had a real arc, real character. I'm really glad that you're advocating for her and then I know you're going to vote for B. So, you know. Without question. I thought this maybe had the highest probability, perhaps with the exception of my other category

that we'll get to later of being a unanimous pick. But I will certainly be casting my vote for Sweet B. Love him so much. And think about them every day. I think about them every day. I beg and implore the merch makers of the world to start upping the volume of B merch so that we can buy. I just want to surround myself. But there's not enough.

Have you purchased some? I know, but there's not enough. Well, we're in the midst of Hanukkah right now. So this will air. We're banking this a few days early. I'll check in with you. The end of Hanukkah. We'll see whether Adam came through.

I'm counting on some B merch from Adam. Okay. We'll see. You better have. Really, really quick follow-up question. Sophie's choice. If we are in a galaxy far, far away on a spaceship, you can only save one of them. Would you save B2, Emo, or Grogu? The other will die.

Take me instead. You have to pick one. Grogu or B2 Emo. I thought it was going to be a droid versus droid, and I was ready to throw every other droid that ever was out the airlock. Right. Yes. But Brogu is a different matter.

I can't. Our two would be okay. Chopper would, you know, will come get revenge. But ultimately he'll be right. You'd have to say B2. In terms of Grogu and B2, that's unfair. How dare you, Charles? No.

How dare you? I'm going with B2 emo easily. I like Grogu. Fuck Grogu. I'm not protecting Grogo if I have to choose, but I'd rather die than have to choose. I'm sorry. I'm dumping B2 emo in the back. Like, it's fine.

Like, it'll be okay. Jesus Christ. Our relationship was good, but rolling with Groger. Man, Grogu was already a senior citizen, 50 years old. It's like Grogu's had... Charles is the guy that tipped over B2 emo in the finale. What if Oz B is, like, I guess, drowning in the bath,

he goes, chit, Ch char. I can't do it. No, it's B2M. I don't want to be. Can I speak English, man? Okay, well. We think we have a winner. But let's let's talk.

How dare you, Dan? How are it? Charles, who you've won for? I gotta go with my boy B2i, Mo. It's easy. Mallory? It's B. Van?

Ah, it's easily B. Joanna? Clean sweep for B. So let's calculate it. Let's do the math. He's got to carry the two. B2 Emo is our most lovable magical character or joy and winner.

This is great. Steve, now you have to play the sound bite of B asking if he could speak now and then stitch together an acceptance award. And then people are being boo, you cannot speak. And then the sound of Charles throwing B2 emo in a bag. I wouldn't do it on a normal day. Just if I had to do it between the group.

Wow. Sorry. Yes. Well, and with that, we have our first honorary versi with Ben Lindberg. Hey, everyone, this is Ben Lindbergh, and I'm here to hand out an honorary versy,

the Oberyn Martel Memorial Award for the Most Demolished Skull. The clickers from The Last of Us could dominate this category in 2023, but so many smashed and severed skulls competed for the crown this year. Including, but not limited to, the guy who heckled Homelander at the end of the boys,

the predator from prey, and half the cast of House of the Dragon, most notably Lyman Beesbury, Joffrey Monmouth, and Vaman Valerian. But I've got to go. give this one to Black Bolt from Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness who gets bonus points for having his head hideously shattered in a PG-13 Marvel movie. In a year when Marvel's overworked VFX artist took a ton of flack, Black Bolt's skull explosion was the ultimate mind-blowing moment. Fortunately for everyone,

nothing happened to Anson Mount's precious scalp in Star Trek Strange New Worlds, which allowed us to savor the sight of the best hair in Hollywood and the most fetching follicles in the Federation, the glorious silver pompadour atop Captain Pike's Peak. Set, to stun. That was amazing. Wow. Ben slacked that to me a couple days ago and he's like, I had to represent for Space's daddy, handsome mount.

I was like, yes. RIP Black Bolt. Handsome, handsome mount. Love it. Charles. It's you. Your first award. Let it fly.

Oh, well, this is an award that is near and dear to my heart. It's the toxic relationship award. A.k.a. The Future Award. This is an award that we've seen a lot of great television, a lot of great movies, and with that, a lot of relationships that just shouldn't be. First up,

Cyril and his mom, who wouldn't love a mother like Cyril's? But, hey, cereal looked good. Next up is, geez, real Stockholm syndrome here. We have Butcher and the boys. It is always just great. to see at the end of the season,

people forgiving butcher for all of the heinous crimes he commits. Number three is Damon at every single X. I could not choose one, but let's just say, if you love Damon, your time is unnumbered.

Number four is Henry Cavill, the Rock, Patty Jenkins, the back girl crew versus D.C. Wow, it's just been just amazing, amazing time. to be a DC universe fan.

And last but not least is Darth Vader should have killed you a long time ago, aka Luke Skywalker and his relationship with Perfect Boy Grogu. And these are the nominees for Toxic Relationship Award. Ooh, boy. There's a part of me that wants to just go for the DC mess because it is like so juicy and fun.

But I really want to support, I just want it on the record that I support all of Charles's, like, biggest swings that he ever take. He has my support now and always. So I'm going to join him on the Luke hate train and say Luke and Grosu. Fuck Luke Skywalker. Fuck Luke Skywalker in this context. Yes.

I got to go butchering the boys. Really? And I'll tell you why. That's what the whole show is about. It's like butcher. Cyril and his mom, that's more sad, dog. That's like some Faye Dunaway, Mommy Dearest, Joan Crawford, wire hangers. She's going to be no more wire hangers over there pretty soon.

Ever. Ever. No more wire? No. She's so mad. But Butchering the boys, this entire season was about the dysfunction in their relationship. So if I have to choose, I mean, Damon didn't have toxic relationships with his exes. he just killed them.

So if I had to choose... Only one. Only one. The other was accidental. Kind of. That's tough. That's tough. That's tough.

That's a tough. I got to go butcher and the boys. I really do. I think it's a tough category. It's a really good category, Charles. But I got to go with butcher and the boys. This is really hard. I genuinely am at war with myself and cannot decide.

I think my initial instinct was to pick Luke and and Grogu, but because I think the idea of Luke saying that if Grogu picked the Baskar from Din, he'd be giving into attachment to those that you love

is just so devastating and so emblematic of the failings and toxicity of the Jedi Creed and the rigidity of it. But the toxicity there, it's very one way. Whereas like Cyril and his mom, they're both levying the toxicity at each other.

It's like we're watching a nine-hour tennis match and the volleys don't cease. And instead of a tennis ball, it's space cereal. You've been in my private box. I have ways of knowing. So good. I'm not sure it can be top. There's all kinds of different, like, yeah.

I just don't know how to vote for Cyril and his mom when Cyril and Dedra are like right there. Like how do I vote for that when like the baddest worstest romance? That's actually probably more toxic. Oh, no, that's definitely more toxic. Did you, that that's the most uncomfortable scene in Star Wars history at the end. When you think that they were about to fuck in the pantry? When you think that they might fuck right there and you're like, ew.

Ew. These are two objectively objectively, objectively, objectively great looking people. and you're like, don't touch each other. Yeah. Like, it's get, ew. Ew. I don't want your fascism to rub them up against her fascism. Like, ugh.

Oh, man. This is really hard. I find Vance's argument about the boys compelling. I'm compelled by that, by that case. This is very difficult. My vote is still for Luke and Grogu. Because, like, how can you look at Grogu and just be like, hey, man, you got to pick your family.

Like, it's me or them. Can be real with that? I get that, but I don't really look at that as a toxic relationship. That's like based on like dogma. Like Luke, when Luke and Grogou were going good, they were kind of going good. It's just like some bad rules to the Jedi. You know what I mean? That's like that's kind of what it is.

But when I think of like a toxic relationship, man, Butcher was drugging his friends. But there's patterns of behavior because wouldn't you say that Luke and Kylo had a pretty, It's not like an isolated incident with Luke as a teacher. You know what I mean? I guess the question is more, would we say that Luke and Grogo had a relationship? Like, it's so fleeting ultimately. Now, yes, we get a training montage and I for one loved it.

But how long were they together, really? What bond could they forge that could then be corrupted by their own noxious tendencies? They were barely together. I don't know. Tough one. Mitt boys. tiebreaker. Well, let's go to the votes first.

Let's see where everybody's at and then we'll see if the tiebreaker is needed. Chuck, who you got? I'm going to look, Luke and Groger. Joanna? Luke and Grogo. Mao. Cyril and his mom. Van.

Butcher and the boys. Wow. Well, with 2.1 and 1. The winner of the Most toxic relationship award, the Future Award. To Luke and Grogu. Look. The Skywalker Saga ends right here right now today. I feel like we're being slightly unfair to Luke Skywalker here.

He sent him home alone. Luke and Ben, Luke has had several toxic relationships. I think Luke and Baby's relationship is sort of toxic. You can't fuck up two kids' lives and just walk away Scott-free. He didn't fuck up Grogoo's life. It is a shameful moment for Luke Skywalker. It is a shameful moment. How?

That's not up for a debate. Like, how? Like, Grogu is better off. Luke gave Grogu the choice. He girl, he's like, he gave him the choice. But it's a false choice. Why should he have to choose? The fact that he's making him choose is why? What?

The Jedi. It's like those are the rules. Just tossed him in the cockpit of the X-wing. Why can't he learn to be a Jedi and have his sweet little Baskar shirt? Because that's not the way it works, baby. Yeah. And where did that lead Anakin fucking Skywalker? Get him now.

But, Mal was really on our team. She just didn't want this on her voting record. No, no, no, no. I think that that was like an absolutely shameful moment for Luke. We talked about that forever on the pot. I just don't know if I would call it a toxic

relationship. I'm just being very strict in my reading of toxic relationship. I think the Jedi are all fucked up. By the way, there were thousands of Jedi. Thousands of Jedi. They were perfectly capable of adhering to the rules of the

Jedi, except there was one that really hated sand and couldn't deal with it. Okay? So there's thousands of Jedi. It's only gone wrong a couple times. Why are we bringing your prequel agenda into this? When it goes wrong, it's always a Skywalker. So it's not a jig. I can be just to be honest with you.

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was on brand for him. This is on brain for me. it is the best musical moment of the year. Mallory and I discussed a bunch of these on our top 10 of the year breakdown, but I added a few. This is going to be a tough one, I think. Wandering Day,

I'm going to look to Mal for support on this one because I think the Midnight Boys are rings of power haters. Oh, just Dan, don't let me in with it. Don't love me in. I just want to let you know. You can say me, Joanna. You can say Jomey.

Jomey. I also let you know that a friend of mine was listening to our top 10 podcast that we did. And just based on the snippet of Wandering Day that she heard, she texted me, she's like, I'm starting Rings of Power today because of this song that comes out of an episode of Rings of Power. Poppy's song. Poppy gets a couple songs, so we should say, rings of power. Kimiko and Frenchie, they got rhythm in The Boys. I watched this sequence over and over and over again.

This also made my top 10. classic golden age of Hollywood dance number, including like literal choreograph moves from various notable musicals, great stuff from The Boys as always. Then we got a two-fer. I really tried to only pick one moment from Stranger Things, but it simply couldn't be done for me. So Stranger Things is here twice in this category, and I apologize. I tried to get as much variety as possible.

Number one, Eddie Munson's last solo. on the guitar fighting for not his own life, but the life of all of his pals in the upside down. That, to me, is like a plot-centric, emotionally resonant. This is also a plot-centric, emotionally resonant. And it also has to be here because the next thing is this huge cultural moment, which is running up that hill, the Cape Bush sequence in Stranger Things for Max. And I just can't deny that that is an important, huge, important cultural moment.

of the year, how could we leave it off the list? And last but certainly it'll not least, speaking of cultural moments of the year, speaking of a meme, the only thing that redeemed the existence of an entire movie, it is the 11th doctor, Damon Targary and himself,

Matt Smith doing a dance break in the middle of the shit show that is Morbius. So Matt Smith dancing, occasionally shirtless in Morbius, I'm going to go straight to Mallory Rubin for her answer for this one. I would just like in the flow of the show to suggest that we add an 11th category, which is a Lifetime Achievement Award that we give to Joanna right now for getting Morbius and the nominees. Which is an astonishing feat of excellence.

The honorary Morby goes to Joanna Robertson. Thank you, Steve. Thank you to the voting committee. That was beautiful to watch in real time. It's difficult to overstate how moving, wandering day was and continues to be. Number two on my Spotify wrapped, despite airing mere weeks ago, I have listened to this song hundreds of times. Sometimes I'll just boot up the episode on Amazon Prime so that I can hear it and soak it all in

while also watching the journey, seeing the overlay on the map. I trade all I've known for the unknown ahead. It is just the summation in one beautiful line of the power of stories, the idea of the quests, the joy and majesty of fellowship. I happily stand with you here, Joanna, and cast my vote. I don't even need to wait for Jomi to call on me. I cast my vote for Poppy's Warble, wandering. Come on, Pop, give us a word.

Borgible. Charles. Oh, you know, I could be boring and say Kate Bush, Stranger Things, but I think award shows should really, really celebrate the peak in culture. So I'm going, Mighty Morbin time.

Matt Smith, I think. Like, come on. Like, I need to award Morvious somewhere in this, and the range Matt Smith has to be Morvious. And then, rings of power. He's one of our finest

actors. I'm going Matt Smith. You got your blonde wake shows confused. He's in House of the Dragon, but I appreciate the point. Van Lathan Jr. So, first of all, I'd like to point out the fact that it is a goddamn crime that the music note fight from Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

is not in this category. Big snub. That was on our top 10. It was on our top 10. So light. Okay. This is a very hard category for me. I love the boys, and they did a whole musical number on purpose. They tried to get this award.

They went for it. But Eddie Munson's last solo, man, there's so much going on. I love Metallica. I grew up on it. You know what I mean? When I had my identity crisis in middle school and I was hanging out with the kids, you know what I mean? It was my dad was like, what are you doing?

I'm listening to Faith to Black Dad. Shut up. You know what I mean? So, like, the whole thing was going on. It, like, it hit me. Like, it hit me. I'm going with that. It was, like, one of the dopest moments of TV, period.

I would love to get Morbius in here as well. But I got to keep it real and give it to Eddie, man. Great pick. This is a loaded category. Yeah. I think a little about the Eddie Munson solo is that, like, so Mal and I covered Stranger Things in two chunks, because that's how they rolled it out.

And the guitar solo was in chunk two. but they put footage of it in the trailer. So we knew it was coming for like months. And we like speculated about what song it might be. Everyone on TikTok was trying to figure out what song. But based on like the hand chord progression, like people did figure it out on TikTok what song was going to be. And it still landed. Like it was still an incredibly powerful moment.

So yeah, for me it's it's a tough pick. Should we go to the vote? Let's get to the vote. Now you've made it very clear. you're going, but just remind the people for a little bit. The sun is fast falling beneath trees of stone, but it's not falling fast enough that I don't

get to stand in the rays of light of Poppy's song one more time. Wondering Day. Charles. Ah, y'all are cowards. Nobody wants to go to Morven Island with me. That's fine. I'm I'm going to Moversie.

I heard H.V.O. Max canceled Morbin Island. Is it? Van. I got to go with Eddie, man. It's just, it was like one of the signature, one of the signature pop culture moments of the year, man. Joe. I love an underdog moment and Rings of Power has just gotten like way too much hate this year for me not to support it here at this moment, especially if I can make, show me, put his head in his hands one more time as he did when Mallory was describing her love of his song. Wandering Day.

Poppy's song for Rings of Power. I'm sure it's a great song. I've never heard of it. I've never heard it. But I'm sure it's fantastic. So let's go to the vote. Our winner is Wandering Day from Rings of Power.

Hell yeah. Congrats. I'm sure it's a fantastic song. I want to make a statement here. I want to make a statement here real quick. I was going to make sure everybody knows. I vow to never in the past or in the future watch one second of rings of power. How dare you.

Give it a chance. Give it a chance. Look at Joe's face. She didn't like that one. Treat yourself to this experience. I vowed to never watch one second of rings of power. Is this rebellion against your brother? Yes.

Okay. I knew it. Plant your feet, Van. This time it's personal. And with that. We have our second honorary versies from Daniel Chin. Hey, this is Daniel Chin, and I'm here to hand out an honorary versi, the Masked Stenger Award, for the best post or mid-credit scene in a superhero movie or TV show.

There are lots of memorable superhero stangers to choose from this year, from the one-and-only pizza papa in Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness, to the topic of Captain America's Sex Life in She-Holk, or even Henry Cavill's very short-lived return as Superman and Black Adam. Amazing. But the clear winner to me belongs to the mid-credit season. scene in Black Panther, Wakanda Forever. Sherry's introduction to the young Prince De Chala is a touching, somber note to end an

incredibly emotional movie on, a film that gracefully paid tribute to the late great Chadwick Bozeman and the beloved superhero he brought to life. It's rare for stinger is to carry so much emotional weight in such a small span of time, and the reveal of Tichala's son provides a narrative payoff that ties off loose ends and presents a hopeful path forward for the grieving shirry. At the same time, it also opens the door for Marvel to continue the iconic character's journey and what serves as one final tribute to the original. I missed it right at the beginning, but did he call that category the masked stinger?

Yes. Pretty good. Beautiful. Beautiful. We got some great ones here. Pretty good. Pretty good. And with the next pretty good award, it's my category.

There we go. With heart throb of the year, we've had a lot of fictional hotties take our hearts, but what will take home, Versi Gold? First off, from the book of Boba Fett, it's our favorite sheriff, Cobb Vantth, the Silver Fox himself. And second from Book of Boba Fett, our favorite gambling den manager,

Garza Fipp, from She-Hulk attorney at Law, the walk of shame that was never shameful, Daredevil himself. And from Obi-Wan Kenobi, come on. Obi-Wan-Kanovi. And coming in with our last nomination,

It's Catwoman from the Batman. Here's what I love about what Steve has done here. Can I say something, Steve? Yes. Is this okay? Steve, known throughout the land as the cuddly Christmas bear, has intentionally crafted a category to prey upon each member of the voting body here. It is a divisive, intentionally divisive,

start-a-brawl, predatory category. This is torment. I just want to cry. I know. Can we be expected to make this choice? Like, he's playing to each of us. Well, actually, I don't know. Charles, who's your heart through over the year?

So I'm going to be real. Part of me just wants to give it to Catwoman because she was so hot in that movie, Black Twitter canceled her. Like, that's how, like, hot you are. That's not why she got canceled. I know, but it didn't help. It didn't help.

Why did Cravitz gets canceled? She got canceled because she... This Will Smith and they dropped a nuclear bomb on her. Like, it was like, she says, you thought we liked you? Let's go back through everything you've ever done. I couldn't believe that it happened, but yeah.

But I got to be real. If I have to stump for anybody, it's Garza Fipp, maybe. Like, Garza Fip, in a show where she was underutilized, she's still shown so bright. Like, it has to be Garza. I'm going to go ahead and just jump in. Catwoman is the,

easy choice here. There are so many times where you're like, God, damn. But we forget, you know what I mean? Like, geez, she's walking through the club. It's like, I don't want to make eye contact. I'm like, I wouldn't even be able to look at you. Jesus Christ, how can we be the same species?

But here's the reality. Garza Fipp got us through the tough times when that show started to fall the fuck off. I was like, yo, man, can we just go back and can I look? And by the way, a long-standing relationship that I've been in with Jennifer Bills. Like we're going all the way back.

Never the Blue Dress, Flash Dress, Flash Dance, the L-World, all of these things. Whatever Jennifer's in, she deserves her due. It's Garza. It's Garza Flipp. Yeah. Is she welding steel or our hearts? Who's to say? She's doing both. She's welding the steel and then they're dropping the water on her.

Shame on you, J-Lo. I know what you did. Okay. Okay. I only I have only purchased for myself one life-size cardboard cut out of a character. But you have two of people on this list.

I know. I was going to say, but I own two because I purchased myself a Cobbant, from Boba Fett, actually, from Mandalorian. This goes way back to two years ago. Mallory Rubin purchased for me in Obi-Wan Kenobi. So this is a house of our... are divided. I'm certain. I don't know. I know that Mal supports my Cobb Vance agenda,

but I also know that her Obi-1 thing is and her UN thing, like mine, deep and strong. I got, I mean, we are recording this on December 20th. The day that Entertainment Weekly has posted the photo of Raylan Givens, Timothy Oliphant, back in the hat, I have to go Vamp. It's Vance. It's a great pick, Joe. I am just distraught. Overhead, to make a choice here. Is this the hardest category that we have today? Yeah.

I think it might be. Yeah. Steve, you're so proud of yourself. I'm so proud of this. Steve is just glowing right now. Dairdwell just getting shut out, by the way. I thought Cox was going to take it, honestly, phrasing, but I did. Daydouble can't hang with Cobb and Obi-War. Let's be real.

I thought you were going to be like the unified people's choice. Like, we all of our. I can hear your heart beating, Charles. My heart is racing right now. For me, it's between Catwoman and Obi-Wan. I mean, I don't know how I can be expected to pick. But I will say the love and lust that I feel for Obi-1-Kinobi is deep and abiding. And to see the lushness of his beard, the sweat on his brow,

the wrinkles on his forehead each one told us a story. I think I have to go with Obi-Wan. It pains me to not make the other picks, but it brings me joy. Sitting next to you at Star Wars Celebration when we saw You could barely get myself. It was nuts.

It was quite a sight to people. It was nuts. By the way, just real quick, guys, how much fun did we have at celebration all together? Wonderful time. It's one of my best, memories from... We haven't all been together.

I don't know. How much fun did we have at D23 altogether? I'd be honest with... We need to all be together. It was... It was both. Like, I really enjoyed ring reverse excursions. I enjoyed both of them.

I enjoyed the second one because, you know, Jomi and Steve weren't there and it was better. But... I was there. Tough scene. Tough scene. I love you guys. I tried to get us.

go to a cabin up in Lake Arrowhead, but nobody wanted to go. Restate that sentence for me, please. Joe, me and Joe wanted to go. Yes, I set you several listings. Yes. Incredible. Well, let's get to it then. We got a lot of debate, a lot of back and forth,

but we have to decide who was our heart throb of the year. Man, who you've voted for? I got to vote for Garza, man. I do. Chuck? Yo, Garza's not even close. It's not even close. Joanna.

This is a strategy vote, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Now we have to, yeah. Oh, we have to force a tie here. So you're putting it on us now. Yeah. Obi-Wi-Wi-Wi. We already know y'all going to sell out.

Welcome to the trap that you built for yourself. The consequences of my own actions. This is tough. Oh, let's sit here and think about it. We got Garso, we got Obi-Wan. Right. Wow. I mean, just two of our of today is just the greatest-looking people, you know.

I'm thrilled for Jennifer Beals that she has. Jennifer Beals. Come this far. You know, I mean, Obi-Wan, you know, he's done it for a long time. But Garso, Fitman. Hey! Joe me. Come on, man.

You made the right choice. You are a champion. Like, yeah. I'm sorry, I hate to broil it down to a boy's vote, but yeah, I think it has to be. Wow. Patriarchy wins again. I see how to.

I don't have a boo on this soundboard. Because we were positive this whole show. All great nominees. Yeah. All great nominees. Steve, you could, if I was you, I would have punt it so hard, Steve. I'd have voted for Catwoman and let you guys just have it.

You know what I mean? Or, or deadlocked it. Deadlocked it for Obi-Wan and then we're just nothing. We just sit here forever. Got to give out two trophies. Shared on her. Yeah. Damn.

It happens with co-NvPs. Co-Nvipes, co-Rookie of the years, but it happens. Remember how much, how, like, we loved Garza Fipp so much that we didn't believe she was dead, even though she, like, blew up right in front of us. Oh, man. They blew her up and we're like, nah, that's got to be like, like, She survived. She's alive.

And then the next episode, they were like, nah, she did, dog. It's all right. What the fuck? Just like that. Just start up. Like, all right, cool. Jesus.

Me why the speeder bike kids survive. I was like the best of kids all lived. Hashtag. I would love to go back to the most toxic relationship category and submit the Boba Fett writers and us because. Ooh, yeah. Rough. Rough.

All right. So our winner of the heartthrop of the year by tiebreaker. It's Garcer's Whip from Book of Bobafet. Hell yeah. Right. Well, I guess it's my turn. This is the made Jomi laugh the most in this year award. And this is just for the things that I found hilarious.

The moments, the bits that when I watched television the show, I was like, man. this is this is the funniest thing ever seen right let's go down through the nominees first off from miss marvel the the scene with bruno come up not bruno sorry with comron kamala and her brother she's like oh this my cousin she's like ah haram dot comron hilarious hilarious see we got uh our second nominee from the batman the el radalada lot of scene though el rada alada alada scene from Batman. No, I blow hispanio! You've got the scene

between Huey and Soldier Boy from the boys. Hey, I think you should lay off the weed. Why don't you gargle my ball sack? It's good. All right. Our fourth nominee, vigilante

in prison. So which one of you dumb, sister fucking Tici torch carrying slots from the Goonies looking pieces of shit wants to go next? scene. And last, but certainly not least, Wong and Madison from Sheihawk attorney at law. Guys, this is just a deep category. Yeah, listen, I've got to vote, but it's not where you think.

No, it is. Exactly what we think. Long in Madison, of course it is. I love it. And like, with a supplemental award for all the times that Van has texted us about Wong and Madison. I love, I love, I love Madison. Like, seriously,

as Wong and Madison for me, but you know what you did remind me of, Peacemaker was so fucking funny, bro. I remember when Peacemaker said that about Superman? And she's like, yo, where do you get this stuff? Like, what are you getting? Peacemaker was so stupid, brother.

It was so funny. But as Wong and Madison, I fell in love with Madison. Like, when I was watching, Madison's like, she's hysterical, bro. I'd like to try some yaks milk. She's just, everything she did was,

funny. It's Wong of Madison for me. Yeah. I learned a lot about mixed drinks from those two. And you know, about spoiling Sopranos all of these years later. All of these years later. It's a loaded category.

These are tough, but I'm with everyone here, I think. This might be another sweep. Do we have another sweep? I'm voting for Wong and Madison. I'm abstaining. You vote Jill Stein here? What do you? Like,

Object to Jill Stein Reference. Bo Jill Stein, you might not get the, you might get the wrong motherfucker winning. Hey, fuck all that.

Like, God damn it. It's objectively Wong and Madison, but I'm abstaining because I don't want to show my support for my least favorite

TV show of the year. Oh. You're like such a She-Hawk attorney at law is your least favorite show of the year? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Was it really?

I'm Mr. CGI. You all are like, this thing shouldn't be a surprise to y'all. But I'm going to be real with you, Charles. I did not know that you were a member of the proud boys until just now. Whoa. Whoa. It's like I didn't.

Whoa. Don't put that on me. Don't put that on me. Insel. Welcome to Insel Island. It's me, Charles. That's one. Also canceled.

by HBO Max. That's a show that makes have been done in Seil Island. No. Okay, cool. So I guess we go, that's an easy one, right?

Can I just mention real quick? I think that Jomey omitted the actual funniest thing from the Batman, and that's when we're in the hospital and Alfred wakes up from a coma and he says, you lied to me.

That's my fucking vote. Hey, hey. I'm going to vote it for that. So funny. That's my vote. I want to vote it for that. I want to vote. No bullshit.

That was the wildest shit I'd ever seen. He just got blown up. He just got blown up. It's like, hey, it's my son of all these years. You lied to me. What? I think what's really important out of all of this is that we recognize that the two most popular things of the year are B2 Emo and Madison. Yes.

And I think we can all agree. Yes, right. And phase long. all right so let's start our vote with Charles you said you're up you said you're upstanding are you sticking to that

I have to go and out oh come on it's not even on the thing he's not a man he was on his deathbed and he's like yo motherfucker we got to talk I was like bro Joe

what are you doing I don't know when you lied a glass of water Mallory I'm voting for Wong and Madison. Oh, my God. Joanna.

I love the Batman. You guys are disrespectful. I'm voting for Wong and Madison. What about you, Vey. No, I'm voting for Wong and Madison. All right. Well, the winner of this year's May Show Me Laugh Award, it's got two wins and one Y,

but it's not where you think. It's Wong and Madison. Sorry, I derailed that. you're not sorry at all the next award is about combat which we watch these movies for a lot of different reasons but sometimes we just like to see a fight

let's be honest you know and there are some people in these films that always deliver the goods when it comes to fighting Captain America Black Panther these guys always show up give us something good to see and then there are some that get their asses kicked almost every time

and we wonder why are they on screen one of these is of course Falcon. So in honor of Falcon, the Falcon Award for Best Underperformance in Fights of this year. First nominee,

the JSA and Black Adam. This is unfair. This is unfair. Got their ass kicked. No, they got busy. They got busy. They got busier. But at the end of the day, they could do nothing with Black Adam.

Dr. Fake was a strong, strong, strong fighter. But a lot of times it was hard to distinguish between Hawkman and Thaunt. Boba Fett. Boba Fett is supposed to be one of the strongest combatants in the entire universe.

And he was a little out of practice because they was kicking his geriatric ass around the universe left and right. He had to go get other people to come in and help. Boba Fett was really, really getting tended to. in his own show. It was happening a lot for him. It was very surprised.

Third, Zeus's Thunderbolt in Thorloving Thunder. A great one. What does the Thunderbolt do? This is a great thing. Like, the Thunderbolt was supposed, it was a plot point. It was supposed to give somebody. We don't know what the powers of the Thunderbolt are. It's like, is it a melee weapon?

Is it a range weapon? Does it have magical powers? Whoever had the Thunderbolt was getting are ass kicked. This one's kind of unfair, but I'm going with it anyway. She-Hulk from She-Hulk attorney-in-law. Now, I'll tell you.

How the tables have turned, Van? So look, so look, as far as combat's concerned, we didn't get a lot out of She-Hulk. This is another way, you guys know that I'm in love with her, and this is another way for me to just discuss her. I just have to slide her in there

because it wasn't a lot of Hulk-fighting fighting going on. And she also lost a case in court. Matt Murdoch gave her the business a little bit so I have to do it in there and the last one is Cyril from Andor

Cyril was just useless in anything that resembled combat he freaked out he panicked he was a rat running off of a ship he had absolutely they traded hats

we still don't know why Cyril like Cyril is it was one of the worst guys when you're looking to somebody

to be in a foxhole with you. Those are the nominees. Charles, I turn it over to my fellow midnight boy. So I think for this award, it's a close one.

But I think, like, the JSA, if we're going to be real, your Trader Joe's Justice League. Nobody really expects that much. So knock it. Like, it's fine. Like, they kind of,

it's kind of in the name. She Hulk, I'm going to give She Hulk a pass. Like, she's still a whole. just because she didn't get busy, doesn't mean she can't. I have to go with the fighter who had the biggest drop-off between what we thought of him

and what he delivered. And it has to be Boba-Fat. Like, you expect Boba-Fat to be one of the greatest combatants in Star Wars. And what he showed us in Book of Bobat was disgusting. So it has to be... Boy.

Gotta remember, man. He was in that bathtub tank a long time. And he didn't do shit. Fucking literally. Black Cresanti came in and was just like, like it was bad, bro. Joe. I want to give it to the Thunderbolt.

It's such a good nominee, except the Thunderbolt is involved in the best sequence in Thorloven Thunder, which is the black and white fight. I do not know what it does, but it looked cool in that sequence. So for that alone,

I'm a very superficial person, as you know. I'm going to give it a pass. And I think I have to give it to the, you know, Charles off the hook, in cell of the universe, Cyril Karn himself, for his just complete panic

in the face of anything resembling fisticuffs unless Deadra's in trouble and then, you know, he comes swinging into action. He ran into the thick of the fray and just kind of pulled at her, held her at gunpoint

as a joke. I don't know. Why did they? Switch hats. Why did they switch hats? Yeah. You know, now that we're on the subject of hats, Joe, I have to say, I can't believe you don't have a wigwatch, hat watch pick. Honestly, for like villain of the year, I almost put Kristen Cole's hat.

Honestly. I hate that stupid hat. I hate that hat. That was an astonishing hat. That really was. This is a tough one. I'm torn on the boba thing because. That's my instinct.

And I do think that will be my pick. But I also think that we collectively, we talked about this a lot during the runs of the pod. Like, I think we're a little too heavily in our, we thought for decades that Boba was a badass because his helmet looks cool and we all have a lot of neat merch headspace

and less in the last thing we saw from this guy was getting dusted into a sarlac pit and emitting one of the most pathetic sounds we've ever heard on screen. What does it sound like, Mallory? That said, I think it's still probably Boba. If they had leaned in to the like struggle of trying to rediscover your prior form,

maybe. But I think I'm casting my vote here for Boba. It's tough. Let me tell you why I'm going with a Thunderbolt. Okay. An inspired choice. Let me tell you why I'm going with the Thunderbolt. Underperformance. in a fight.

Part of the plot of the movie is going to get the thunderbolt and the thunderbolt was strong enough to actually kill Zeus

or so we thought guess what it turns out at the end the thunderbolt didn't even do that we thought that the thunderbolt

was strong enough to kill a God at the end Zeus is literally having somebody dab a wound with some gauze, the Thunderbolt actually did nothing.

I would tell you that everybody else on this list, everybody did more than the Thunderbolt did. The more I thought about the Thunderbolt, the matter I got. Their excuses for Bobafet, their excuses for She-Hol, their excuses for She-Holk, their excuses for the JSA, the only one who doesn't have an excuse

is the Thunderbolt, so I'm going with the Thunderbolt. So here, Van, so check this out, right? See, and he's why you missed the context, right? See, they brought the Thunderbolt back to Earth, right? After the big fight, you know what I'm saying? And guess what Marvel movie's coming out? So the Thunderbolts. You see, it's all connected, man.

You know what I'm saying? Shut up. So somebody's going to throw Harrison Ford at Zeus and then they're going to then they're going to live? You see it, you see it. He's frail. Don't throw him. You see it.

He'll be in a plane. He'll be fine. Y'all, if you guys want to toss him 1923, Rail. He's not frail. Yeah, he's just, he's galloping, galavanting, dare I say, on horseback on Paramount Plus every Sunday night. The man is 80 years old. I need two minutes, right?

Because I watch pretty much everything. But I could not get into Yellowstone. And they've got three prequels, nine sequels. Like, they've got, like, CBS got Tyler Sheridan in a bunker just pushing out Yellowstone content. What's the pitch? Why should I tune in to Yellowstone? And it's like... Kevin Costner and tight jeans and a cowboy hat.

That's the pitch, buddy. Yeah. Yellowstone is fired, bro. I don't know what you're talking about. That gorgeous Vista in Montana. That's where Van was also pitching a ring or first retreat. Yeah. I want to go out there.

We should do it. Beautiful there. Mallory, do you remember the two long clips of Yellowstone that you texted me the other day? Yeah. And the background on you was just you, cackling because it was the worst thing you had ever seen on television. Wait, wait, sorry, Joanna.

It's been a tough few episodes. Was this just cell phone footage of her television, of her watching it? Oh, with her. It's not like a YouTube thing. It's just her out. I send you some out of context clips from recent episodes of Yellowstone to try to woo her. I thought it was a YouTube clip. It's just you shooting your television.

Yeah. And then I'm just going like, ah, ha, ha, this is so stupid. Now that we'd watch. Great stuff. Anyway, I'm going to watch it. Yellowstone, don't they? Well? Yeah, there we go.

Let's vote. Let's see who went out the most sad this year. Joe, who you got? Cyril Karn, my guy. Serial. My guy. I'm going to go with a Thunderbolt. The Thunderbolt.

Van Swade me. Yeah. And I think, frankly, we can agree. It's been a little bit of a skewed boba pot. It's a Bove of Dunk Fest. I'm not very. voting for boba and i feel really bad this feels like personal against the actor

and I don't like it what about you Charles hey you know I don't have a heart so fuck boba fay I'm going to go this is the last one of the year we're going there oh man and you man

last one at least I'm going with the thunderbolt for the dog all right All right, with all our votes in, the winner of the Falcon Award, it's Zeus's Thunderbolt. Soon to be the Captain America Award, by the way.

You mean the current Captain America Award? That's all I'm saying. Yeah, he's Captain America now. He'll be getting his ass kicked on a much higher level. Don't let them see King, my boy. Yeah. All right, Chuck, it's your second award. All right, for my last award of the night.

This award is really, really just close to my heart. It is called the, hmm, interesting choice award. This is to honor some of the great storytelling achievements of 2022. The first is killing Wanda at the end of multiverse of madness. I am still not happy about this choice. I think we're going to return here once again very soon. My second is Obi-Wan

Canovi walking away from Vader what the fuck like bro it's egregious we will talk about it

third and this is just as egregious to me Princess Renice not barbecuing every single

person in the grand hall I don't care what anybody tells me. You could say, she did it for this reason or that reason. The womb is the battlefield. Whatever. This is the dumbest shit I've seen all here, bro. Fourth is, this came in hot. This came in

very, very hot, okay? Big Jim, I hate to do this to you. But the amazing Spider-Man, the white guy with dreads in Avatar, Chet Hanks, bro, what the fuck happened in this movie. Did you say Chet Hates?

Chet Hanks in way of water, bro. I don't know what was happening. Every time he hissed on on screen, I'm like, nah, man, the cultural appropriation is through the roof, my guy. And last, but certainly not least, I had to change this, actually,

because I forgot. I said I was done with Boba. I said I was done. But boy, the Power Rangers and Book of Boba Fett. The scooters, Oh my gosh. This had to go through so many rounds of edits

and everybody saw those vespas. It was just like, good choice. This is going to kill. So that has been the interesting choice award. So I'm going to throw to my fellow hater, compatriot. Joe, where are you going?

Oh, man, I love this category. I laughed out loud when I saw it. I love the hate that flows through you always. all of these are such good picks. This is a really tough one. But I can't think of a low as close to a high as Obi-1 Canobi walking away from Vader in that fight. And as you're reading these nominees out,

when you hit that one, everyone on the Zoom call just started silently shaking their heads. It's like just being like, yeah, I got. How do we justify that? So how do we go from this moment that, that Mallory put on her, you know, you had this moment on your top 10 of the year, right, Mal? I didn't. I had their fight in episode three. Oh, you're right. The earlier one. But I did. Yeah, there was a lot to love at the beginning of the episode six fight until this.

And like there's moments, there's a moment in this fight that's like one of the best things we've ever seen Hayden do, one the best things we ever seen you and do. The fight itself looked pretty bad in the volume. But like there's this incredible emotional moment. I cried. And then literally Obi-Won Kenobi makes the decision that no one. can defend. Not even you McGregor's mother can defend this move that he makes that leads to all this death and destruction in the galaxy could have ended it right there.

So, yeah, it has to be Obi-Wan-Kanobi walking away from Vader. Terrible. Now, where are you going? I am torn between two picks here. I'm torn between Obi-1 and Reigny's.

Both paint. It's the same move. It's so deeply. So deeply. I think with, I'll just say on the Reneese front, I still fall into the let's end it here camp. I understand why that can't happen. There's a story to tell. My contention there remains if Rainis is not a character who would do that, who would act in that moment, who would use Males against the Greens. Okay, don't have Rainees explode through the floor of the dragon pit and murder legions of small folk from Kingslanding.

Rainis is now a war criminal. Why did that happen? And yet I think I'm going to pit from Vader because what Joe said is exactly it to me. Like we know, again, it's a prequel, we know that the characters are making it out of that moment account for that in some way. And the emotion of watching the buildup to that was, I thought, like, Supreme. We were texting, we're texting in our group chat. Half of us were tears. Half of us were already asking how they made certain choices. Like, it was a pretty intense thing to watch as a Star Wars fan and to end up spending so much time harping on

that particular decision rather than... all of the fleshed-out canon and these key new moments that we got, I think was a real bummer at the end of a show that I think broadly still I enjoyed more than many of my pals on the Zoom.

But that was a tough one. So I'm casting my vote there. We have two Obi-Wan's van. Where are you going? Let me tell you why it's Obi-Wan. The rest of these moments, I look at them. The white guy with the dreads

and Avatar Miles, I call him by his real name. I don't call him Spider. You guys, to call him by his cool street name. No. I call him Miles. I call him what his father called him.

Miles. I call him what his father called him. Because he has a... His mama-lid him Miles? I'm going to call him Miles. Okay. The Power Rangers don't deserve for us to discuss them. Killing Wanda was just a disappointment at the end of, God damn. This did not go the way I thought it was going to go.

Obi-Wan walking away from Vader is lore disrupting. It is universe destabilizing to me for a couple of reasons. Number one, it minimizes the Musafar duel a little bit. Okay? It kind of minimizes their fight in a new hope to a degree.

And it minimizes, to me, a little bit, Vader. because we're all Vader is a Vader saturation that goes on kind of in the Star Wars universe where Vader comes along and he's supposed to be this unstoppable behemoth of dark side evil

and this threatened to be the first property that really delivered on that besides the first scene the one scene in Rogue One he's grabbing ships out of the air he's throwing other force users around like a rag doll. He's so evil that he's snapping people's necks and doing really crazy shit. All the crazy shit that you're like,

that's why he's the scourge of the universe when we get the first three movies. And then we get to this point, Obi-Wan basically drinks a cup of coffee, gets his mojo back, kicks his ass, number one. And then number two, in this situation, he's still not evil enough for Kenobi, one of the most valiant Jedi in the entire history of the order to eliminate.

It was just weird. There were so many other things that they could have done. A earthquake, a force earthquake could have came and he could have fallen. You know what I mean? Or like...

Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? There were rocks everywhere. Someone could have been pinned under rocks. Pinned under a rock. Easily. So many other things, Riva could have popped in

would make some use of her character. There's so much other stuff that they could have done to end that fight either in a stalemate or in somebody escaping. But just to let him live like that is a bewildering,

almost disrespectful to the audience's choice. And I'm mad again! Wow, this seems like, this seems like a sweep. I can't... I want to say Princess Renisto is bad. It's like a one-bee. It's like...

It's a one-be. Well, here's a thing. I think that... It's the beginning of a lot of problems. I think this is a difference between the two. At least in the... in Count of the Dragon, they were like,

oh, no, Reneas felt like she couldn't do that because it's not her fight. Garbage, but like, they tried to give an explanation, right? Obi-Wi-Wan, he'd just walk away, man. He's just like,

that's not, that's not Anakin no more. That's Darth Vader. Okay, I'll see you guys later. Let me get on my ship. Then goes to the desert. Then goes to the desert to protect Luke

really from this guy. Bro. You could have killed him and then go live on the Miami planet from fucking Andor. Yeah. Had some greenies. Yeah. Some pieces. All right.

Looks like it's a clean sweep. Looks like a sweep. But for, you know, the accounting tabulation, we got to get these things right. You know, you don't want a la-l-l-la and moonlight situation. You can't have it happen. Let's get our votes in again. Charles, who you got? It has to be OB.

I'm sorry, my man. Mel It's my beautiful Ben Kenobi Joe We tried to get him to win the heart throw up

and he missed out But guess what You win this one my guy And Van Fuck that scene Jesus All right

Well our winner Of the Interesting Choice Award It's none other than Obi-Wan walking away from Darth Vader. And with that, we have our third honorary versie from Arjuna. Hey, everyone. It's additional production by Arjuna Ramco Pal here.

I'm here to present Best Cameo in 2022. Big spoiler warning ahead. Lots of strong contenders here, especially with Marvelous year between Dr. Strange, Miss Marvel, she-hull, lots of cool cameos. But I have to go with a little cameo from Doctor Who. That's right. Jody Whitaker bowed out this year as the doctor in the power of the doctor

who are generating into David Tennant. That's right. Everyone's favorite Scott is back and ready to go all Tommy Whammy Whibly Wobbly Wobbly for a few specials in 2023. Can't wait. I'm thrilled with Arjuna pushing the Who agenda. It makes me really happy. This reminds me, Joe.

My holiday homework is. to begin to begin chipping away. I will send you a syllabus. Yeah, I want to do it too. Yeah, so excited. I've made the- We can all watch Farscape together. I've made the adult decision

to not do any homework. And when the new season of Doctor Who comes in, I'm just going to watch blind. And if I have any questions, then so be it. Let God have mercy on my soul. I'll be here for you. All right.

Joe, your last award. Oh, this one. Oh, man. I can't wait for this one. All right. This is the Marva Memorial Devastating Death Award. Named for Marva because she's not actually on the list. But we love her.

And don't worry, there is an Andor death on the list. I just couldn't do double Andor. All right. So number one, sort of piggybacking off of Charles is one of Charles's picks in the last category. It is the death of Juan of Maximoff in Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Not sad because I was like in character sad, but sad because I'm like, what are you doing to Wanda Maximum after we spent all this time with her in Wanda Vision? So I was, I was, it was like a frustrating devastation sort of for me.

Number two on the list, this is our Andor submission. His name is Kino Loy and he can't swim. It's Andy Circus is Kino-Loy who does not make it off. of five. Oh, man. I'm about to cry. Now I'd like to imagine you to imagine a moldering skeleton who has made it way past his expiration date. And as he goes, he paused the air and he says a few things to his young wife that leads to a big misunderstanding that maybe kicks off, you know, a massive Civil War.

It is the death of King Vissarist-Hargarian Patty himself and House of the Dragon. RIP Patty. This is another frustration, devastation, death that I just had to, like, squeeze in here. We did not cover Westworld on Ringarverse, but I did cover it on Press TV. HBO Max or HBO Warner Bros. Has canceled Westworld. There will be no more Westworld. And at the end of that series, Ed Harris put a bullet in Tessa Thompson,

Jeffrey Wright and Tandy Newton and Short Order all three black characters on Westworld went down by Ed Harris Ah nah nigger, hold on Wait, this happened on screen Yes Just a just fucking

Ed Harris shot Tessa Thompson Tandy Newton and Jeffrey Wright and Tessa Thompson I mean they're all robots so Tessa Topsonso came back And I was so mad about this And everyone was like, don't worry they'll make it better in the next season. But we're never going to get the next season.

And that's just it. And I'm picking Maeve, Tandy Newton's character, because Maeve was such this huge beloved, Maeve Malay, incredible character on Westworld, my favorite character on Westworld for much of the run. And she went out like a chump and is not going to get a chance to rewrite the end of that story. So that is forever going to make me mad,

the way that Maeve died on Westworld. And last Saturday at least, we already talked about him, months in on Stranger Things, sacrificing it all. Sort of inexplicably, but we'll leave that alone. Death by Demobat. It's the death of Eddie. So let us go.

Start with Mallory. Mallory, how are you feeling about this? I'm emotionally distraught. My goodness. What a journey that was, Joanna. Okay. I have a question. Does it matter as we consider our

vote here if there's an opening for the character to maybe not actually be dead. You're talking about Wanda Maximoff. Wanda, certainly. Like, I think that that's, yes, that's the main one there. Are you an Eddie Munson-Lived truth? Even Kino, we don't know. Who knows? But yes, that's mostly about Wanda.

That's mostly about Wanda. Should that factor in to our consideration here? I really think that Wanda's dead. And if they have another Wanda, it's going to be like a different multiverse version of Wanda. and does that count? I don't know if Elizabeth Olson wants to keep doing this for much longer. Right.

This is so tough. I feel like I'm not convinced that Wanda's dead, but I agree with you. There's just a larger consideration there. Kino, the anguish of can't swim, tough to top when we think back on this year. But I've been so Star Wars heavy in my voting today. I haven't seen the last season and a half of Westworld,

so I don't feel like I can in good faith vote for Mave. Eddie was absolutely heart-wrenching. The Saris was also gutting, but I feel so strongly that he needed to die for us to enter the next phase of the story. Oh, boy. I'm going to go with Kino. What's wrong with me?

Why am I voting for Star Wars in every category? But that was just, you know what, though? Here's the thing. Again, I'm like really torn on this. I have some, I'm experiencing some dissonance because while that was devastating and like the impact of just the punch of that with the two words can't swim,

there was also like the embrace of that moment and their shared understanding that they have reached together there that like they took their circumstances into their own hands. And so it wasn't necessarily about living. It was about deciding to fight. And so there was like a real virtue and heroic streak at play there too. Maybe it's Eddie. I need some time to think.

I need to listen to my pals and colleagues here, run through their thinking. I am really torn. All right, Charles. I think it's keynote for a very easy reason. You think about Wanda. Wanda's been in how many movies. Part of her comic book character very problematically is her dying all the time. Still bullshit.

But, like, Wanda's had a lot of movies. Vassaris had an entire season. Eddie, same thing. He had seasons upon seasons of you to grow with these characters. for Tony Gilroy and company to make us care about Kino just in the small batch where where he starts out as a character where we're like, damn, you're a cop, you're a part of the problem, you're the man, and just in short order, pretty much within two episodes, for you to not only understand why Kino is the way he is, to see how monumental of a decision it is, and to

feel when he says can't swim, that level of emotion. to pack that in in a handful of episodes is just a masterclass in acting, in writing, in storycraft, especially in a universe where we are used to seeing people die. We're used to seeing everybody in Star Wars bite the dust. And for a guy named Keeno, who don't do, like, he don't got force powers,

he ain't a droid, he ain't nothing. He's just a human. And for me to be like, oh, no, it has to be Keito. Man. I'm going to do the character, based upon my emotional connections to the person at the time of their character left because it's devastating.

Most devastating. Wanda, I was like, get her out of here. I'm sorry. She assaulted Carmetage. What? Killed, like, look, I didn't want Wanda to die. All right. Welcome to Insel Island, Dan.

What is wrong with you? Okay, well, let's, let's, let's, let's analyze what you just said. Wanda killed innocent people throughout the entire movie. that. She was the villain of the movie. So I'm an in-sell because somebody who attacked Carmatage where people were doing and just killing everyone. Like by the point that the Wanda's turn was so, I was like,

get her out. I don't care. I knew she would come back, but she was like a bad guy at the point that she died. I mean, she was a little moment of redemption, but she had done so much. She was trying to kill a child. How am I an insult? She was trying to kill a child the whole film. Anyway. I may have never,

I don't watch Westworld, you know? So Eddie, it's very sad for Eddie, but he went out, but both Eddie and Kino both kind of went out on their terms. Yeah. You know, they kind of, there was one of these characters that died reaching out to the afterlife for a wife that had passed away. Wow. Knowing that his family was in shambles and had to muster up every scintilla of energy and humanity that he had left just to give his life some kernel of meaning. He questioned everything about himself and had no answers about the future of his family,

about his dynasty, about his bloodline. And guess what? In the end, he was a failure. And he was only a failure because he tried to be a nice guy. What could be more tragic than that? what can be more tragic than having your family at war than having the true love of your life gone than what could be more tragic than like wasting away

and like just fucking gold thing the whole nine it's got to be this I'm voting for this Patty really quick counterpoint if I because now I want to try to sway you yes all of that was tragic then very well stated I will say though it is all cut by the

hilarious nature of an entire war being fought because y'all can't name your kids some different shit like that's hilarious like dog like you just name your kids

different shit and none of this will happen like come on that is hilarious but to me that was even more he's a slave to all of these things like when he died I was like

god damn I feel bad for this motherfucker I was like I really felt bad. And he was the king. I felt bad for it. So I'm going with this. Wow. It looks like we're in a, we're in quite a tough spot in terms of this voting right here. Joanna, have you given your thoughts? I haven't. That's a great point. I don't, I feel like House of the Dragon hasn't been represented in this, Ray, I like went back through the categories. I don't think Hot D has won anything and it was like a huge part of our year.

Hot D. And Or is very, like, likely to win another category here today. So I'm certain. Definitely. So I'm tempted to give it to Vassaris for that reason as well, not to mention Vance eloquent sort of case that he made there. Yeah. I mean, I'll go with Fassaris.

There is such a tragedy at play. There's the pying, which like multiple people on the Zoom call have done impressions of, which is great. That happened. But I consider sort of that whole episode. of like the sad dinner, the long, like he's dying that whole episode, right? The long walk, all of that. Just searching for some comfort before he goes.

You guys, please love each other. Please love each other before I go. And they were like, no. And they're like, no. He lasted years with Miguel Cepachshnick's magical leprosy. What an achievement. Honestly, all this is Baceresis' fault. You shouldn't have been marrying a teenager.

like I can only cross like come on man but devastating is a big tent right there's I think to Van's point and Joe's point like part of the devastation is the tragedy of the volume of his failures at the end like so many

have a courage to take a stand pay attention to your own house right yeah no this is a good point actually that is a sad life goddamn it's a tough one it's a tough one Our guy was the writer of Ballarian the Black Dread for like two seconds

and then spent the rest of his life yelling laments into the fire. And making model houses and that part I love, this is the stuff that I know. Wouldn't you agree? Wouldn't you agree? That's so funny. Great stuff. My God. who wouldn't you agree

looks like we've kind of solved it but for accounting reasons Mallory who are you voting for? Vasero's the first Targaryen Joe The failed king himself

Facerus Targaryen Van Lathan fucking Fasarius the king of fucking wasting away to nothing It's sad now that I think about it

man so sad is, that was a very moving scene. Yeah, Viserius, yeah. Check wagon. Just so it's not a clean sweep, I got to go with a man who could have used some floaties.

All right. Well, so, the results are in, in the Mammarva Memorial Devastating Death Award. We've got the man whose face looks like Swiss cheese. It's Vassarist Targaryen. You know I just noticed about that category? It's named after Marva,

but Marva died and she's not in the category. I know. Yeah. Because I couldn't do double A-Dor. Classic Joanna Smiler. I picked Keen-Aloi, but I wanted to honor Marva.

Right. Joe? Yeah. Put a pin and we can't do double Andor because it's time for our final category of the day. Most spine tingling speech. First up, loosen.

One way out, episode 10, Andor. I've made my mind a sunless space so that I could limit myself to five picks in this category. My goodness! I think we could agree. Wait, Mallory, what did you give to do that? Everything!

Everything! There was no other place to start for this category than with Luthyn's bone-chilling oration, instantly earning its place in the panaceous. theon of best Star Wars scenes, Luton's answer, Talani's query about sacrifice left us breathless and odd. It encapsulated and or singular capacity to at once redefine

why we love Star Wars and enhance 45 years of appreciation for this fictional universe. I still think about it constantly. It was utterly sublime. Luton is such a frontrunner for this versie that he didn't bother a campaign. He didn't bother with the media circuit. He's hanging out on the Fondor, waiting to make

his accepted speech and shout into the Zoom, I burn my decency for this versi. And yet, we have other nominees. Next up, Marva. Finalee speech, Rick's Road. I was tempted to make this entire category best and or speeches, and I think we easily could have, and it would have. It would been a loaded field. But I ultimately limited myself to two and or nominees because there were a lot of other wonderful speeches from other stories that I wanted to talk about with you all and celebrate. So with apologies to Kino, with apologies to audiobook Nemek, let's take a moment to gaze upon the wonder of Holo Marva. What more can any of us want than to inspire others in this fashion? You know, Taiwan Lanister once told Arias Stark that legacy.

is what you pass down to your children and your children's children, that it's what remains of you when you're gone. If only he had been able to boot up footage of Marva and stream it in Harenhall, Marva told us that, quote, the empire is a disease that thrives in darkness. It is never more alive than when we sleep. And we were never more alive than when we heard that. Fuck the empire. Next, here he is again, a recent Versi winner. Vissaris the first Targaryen. Episode 8, the Lord of the Tides. From the rise of the rebellion to the brink of familial, civil war,

Vesaris's long walk into the throne room in the eighth episode of Hot D. It was one of the scenes of the season, the simmering stew of the ties that bind and the schemes and plots. schemes and plots are the same thing, Joanna. They're sure. And it birthed one of the speeches of the year. No, not the iconic. This is the stuff line,

although I think we should probably give that an honorary versy for comedic brilliance. But rather, Viseras' last supper speech when he removed his mask and implored his family to set aside their grievances, quote, if not for the sake of the crown, then for the sake of this old man who loves you all so dearly.

It was, tragically, too late, but for a moment, Viseras said he wished us to see him as he is. And we did. Now, Viseras could have learned a thing or do about ruling from our next nominee. It is Queen Ramonda from Black Panther Wakanda Forever. She led with purpose, clarity, and heart. Sometimes, we talked about this a little bit earlier, when you see something or you hear a line in a trailer when it's like heavily featured in the run-up to a release, then it fails to land as fully when you're finally watching the episode or you're finally watching the film. Not so for Ramonda's

anguish-inducing speech in the throne room when she told Akoye, I am queen of the most powerful nation in the world and my entire family is gone. Have I not given everything? Ramonda imparted many of the film's most poignant lessons about healing, but also as we as we see here about the abiding nature of sacrifice grief, mourning. just an incredible performance from Angela Bassett overall and full-on chills there. Finally, is Galadryl here? She's not, but it surprised me. I thought she might be.

I knew I wanted to make a Rings of Power nominee here and include a speech from that wonderful show, which included so many pearls of wisdom from different characters, Galadriel, Elrond Duren, Norie, etc. But most of those gems were dispensed back-and-forth conversation. that I think stretched the definition of speech, but the stranger in the finale spoke for just long enough to cross that speech threshold, I think, and even if he hadn't, I wouldn't have cared. Because when I look back on this year,

a fandom of nerd culture, of potting with you all, my beloved pals, that idea that the stranger shared with Nori, alone is just a journey. Now adventures, they must be shared, stands out as one of the truest and most beautiful embodiments of why we love these stories and why we love sharing them together. I open it to the floor.

Beautiful, as always, from you, Mallory. I'm really surprised that you did not pick Norrie's dad talking about not shitting next to a stream, which came right before the strangers. That was also memorable. Yeah. This is glorious. I'm, I, there's, obviously we're all going to vote for Luthin, so, but let's just have a conversation anyway.

Yeah. And just say that, um, Angela Bassett, I'm still on the campaign for her to get an Oscar nomination, possibly a win for this, uh, as much of a legacy award as anything else. And she puts so much pepper on this moment for Ramunda that I just, I want to give it special recognition. But I'm still, an Oscar for Angela is still on my personal 2020. Agenda. So, you know, acknowledge that.

But, I mean, it's Luthin. I just said, I think about Luton's speech all the time. It's maybe the best thing that's ever happened in Star Wars. It's the antithesis of Obi-1 Kenobi just walking away from Bader. It is just a masterpiece in television storytelling, in speech writing, in performance, in directing, everything. It's just one of the best things I've ever seen. scene. So yeah, loosen speech.

Obviously. I, when, so I've watched the speech probably a half a dozen or I've watched speech a bunch of times, right? I really, and you guys all know that I'm prone to hyperbole, who love me anyway, so I can do it. I'm hard pressed to find a better movie show speech like ever. Yeah. And I've really been trying.

Ever? Brough. Like ever, bro. Like ever, man. Like, ever, dog. Like, there's, it's like, there are a lot of really great ones. I actually looked up one day. I was like, what's the greatest movie speeches of all time?

But then there's something I love, I love clear minds, full hearts for my heart. Clear eyes. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know, my heart is full. All of that stuff. I love a lot of these things. I love Denzel, just parroting some of Malcolm X's stuff in that movie.

There's so many of them that I really, really, really dig. Just for some reason, there is a stirring confidence. There is a fatalism. There is an acceptance. There is a, it's maybe the most real world. Because if I was listening to someone, give it to me the fuck,

the way it's got to be to get me to go do something, there is not a better speech. I don't respond to think about who you want to be in the future. Oh, yeah. Like, go out and become all the greatest things of yourself. I respond to, look, motherfucker, these be the rules, accept them or die. And there is not a better speech ever than that.

and just so full and so absolutely grounded in who he is, it's the winner now. And I'm not so sure if it's not the all-time winner. I've tried and I'll keep looking. It's amazing. I'm going to be honest, in honor of the holidays, I'll admit it.

For the past few years, I've been the little content cringe, just ruining everybody's Christmas. But I was always just like, yeah, I'm waiting for something. I'm waiting for something. And just like in that classic Grinch movie, when his heart just grows and grows and grows,

Luthin's speech was like, Charles, we did it. You waited. You hated so much. And this is your moment. This is what you've been waiting for. Put it in my fucking veins. Luton made me believe in a higher power. Yo, shout out Tony Gilroy.

Shout out Andor. Oh, man. This is the most amazing thing I've watched all year. It has to be Luton. It's a sweep. No surprise. No surprise. Joanna.

Yeah. Who you going with? I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there is one conclusion. Luthon speech. Man. Luton speech now and forever, man. Luton speech. I'm sorry.

This is maybe now the Luton speech. category. Chuck. Oh, shout out. Shout out Gilroy, the God. It has to be Luther, man. Mallory Rubin.

I share my dreams with ghosts because of this scene. It's remarkable. Ghosts? Lowercase G or uppercase G singular ghost? Wolf dreams, Mal? Yeah, right there. Just, yeah, wolf dreams, warg dreams. Skin changing whenever I can.

I miss ghost. Love a dire wolf. Great Daryl. Don't worry. Mention there at the end. The TV show Snow is coming to HBO in 2029. We'll be here. And the winner of the most spine tingling speech.

So what do I sacrifice? Everything. It's Luthing, baby. Damn, Luther. Man, you know, shout out the Scars Guard. baby. That whole family keeps giving us the business. I love all of these guys. One of them is

scary as fuck. Bill. The other one is the Northman, which I wasn't expecting to be as good as it was. And then Daddy's still bringing it after all these years. And Carl is also there. Who's Carl? Who's Carl? He was on Westworld and some other things, Vikings. Carl. Can you cut cut this, Steve? Cut this? Because I'm about to ask a very stupid question. Wait, are all the Scars guards

I'm part of the same family. Yes. Leave it. Like, I know. White boys were named Sarsgarde. I'm like, all the Scarsguards are fatalities.

Steve, I didn't know they were leaving. But not. But not Peter Sarsgarde. Right. Peter Sarsgarde is different. He's not in them. The Scars guards.

Right. Which are Alexander Bill. Cut this, Steve. I did not realize all these people were related. I just thought everybody had this last name. They don't, man, Liam and Chris Kamsworth. That's interesting.

They got the same last name. I don't know if they're related. Jack Quaid is Dennis Quaid's son? Who knew? What? We just had our Nepo babies. Yeah. Nembo babies.

Did nobody know about this? Jesus. Nebo babies got the internet talking. I think I made up Carl, Harvard Westlick. I think I was thinking of Gustavs Kars. Stavsard. Yeah, his name is Gustav.

He was on Vikings in Westworld. Carl. And there's one called Walter. Can we call him Carl? Yeah, he seems like a Carl. Then there's Walter, like, which is Walter with a V. That's another Scarsguard. You made those last two up.

Didn't Kendall cancel that in season two? Stalin Scarsguard has eight children. And like most of them are sons, right? Yes. Wow. Strong, speedish stock. You know. Jesus Christ.

Good for him. And with that, concluding our 22 verses, we hope you enjoyed. Thank you to me. I guess. Thank you for me. For producing this.

I got to do the outro now. And where's that bringing you back to me? To me. You cannot deal with your own podcasts. Where did that bring you? And thank you to our social work, to the great Jomea Denneron, an additional production from our Juna Ramgopal.

Charles, take us out. This year is a wrap. We all love B2. I podcast with the best people in the world. Happy holidays. And I'm merry Bobby Boo. Aww! Feels like every.

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