The Ringer-Verse - The 'Avatar: The Last Airbender' Draft | The Midnight Boys

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

Joanna Robinson joins Charles and the rest of the Midnight Boys for a draft of their favorite characters from the 'Avatar: The Last Airbender' and 'The Legend of Korra' universe. Hosts: Charles Holmes..., Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman Guest: Joanna Robinson Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Social: Jomi Adeniran Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:24 We are Jomey, the explainer at Deneron. We are Steve, the cuddly pumpkin spice, Alvin. We are Joanna, House of the Three Hour Pod Robinson. And we are Coke Baby Chuck, he of the healthy, non-receiving hairline. And together, we are known as the Midnight Boys. Boo! We got some programming reminders for y'all. Van is on a well, well-deserved vacation,
Starting point is 00:02:50 but we'll return next week for our regularly scheduled programming. But before that, Thursday, there will be a new episode of She-Holt covered on the Ringiverse featuring Ben Lindbergh. And Cow Friday, House of R will be giving its primer for the Rings of Power. And this Sunday, Talk the Thrones is back again. Chris Ryan, Mal and Joe are going to give their instant reactions
Starting point is 00:03:12 to episode two of House of the Dragon. But on today's episode, the midnight boys, you've been waiting, are discussing the hottest show in these East Streets, okay? A place where fantastic beasts fly, houses rise and fall. Children are tasked with saving the world.
Starting point is 00:03:28 That's right. It's finally time for the Avatar draft. And with that out of the way, can we please roll the spoiler warning because we will be discussing everything from every season of Avatar, The Last Airbender, and the Legend of Cora. Don't yell at us.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Steve, roll it. We're getting ready to talk about anime. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Is Everture the Last Airbender in anime? I don't think it's it. I don't think it technically is, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But that was funny. But it's such a good one. It's so good. It is Michael Be Jordan saying anime. So, yeah. Also, guys, I feel like the Midnight Boys are very honored to have Joanna here because she has been in the podcasting minds for like 48 hours straight. But she was just like, nah, if y'all are doing an avatar draft,
Starting point is 00:04:27 I'll add some extra time in the mining fields. How are you feeling, Joe? Are you as excited as we are? Oh, I'm thrilled. Before we started recording, I told you that when I saw you were doing this without me, I got jealous and sad. And then I was just like, so, you know, maybe if I, like, if you want me to, like, be there, I could, please invite me.
Starting point is 00:04:44 He's like, do you want Joe to be on this episode? I'm like, absolutely, yes. let's do it. It's going to be so fun. Also, really quickly, people are probably like, why is it Van doing the Avatar draft? Well, Van's not a thing to have two.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Two very valid reasons. One on vacation, two. He likes Star Wars rebels better than Avatar. So we're just like, if there's any time to do the Avatar draft, it is when Van is in Santorini Greece
Starting point is 00:05:08 crushing grapes with his feet. I think that's what he told us he was doing. Which sounds just as just as good as an Avatar draft, honestly. I don't practice. Santorini. Wow. Wow. What a sublime record.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Goodness gracious. So yeah, like before we talk about all of our undying love for Avatar, let's, for people who might be like, need a refresher. Avatar, the last Airbender is created by Michael Dante Di Martino and Brian Kinezkyo.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It premieres in February 2005 on Nickelodeon. It follows the story of Eng, a young airbender and Avatar tasked with bringing harmony to a world full of individuals who can Ben, Four Elements, Air, Water, Fire, and Earth. It ran for three seasons, and in 2012, got a spinoff show called The Legend of Cora, which followed the life of the next Avatar.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And my first question for you, Joe, is, why do you feel like Avatar has endured? Because I remember watching it in real time on Nickelodeon. And it's not like Nickelodeon treated Avatar as if it was their premier programming. I even think the later seasons of the last Airbender got moved to like Fridays or Saturdays, like a death time slot. Legend of Cora,
Starting point is 00:06:22 you never knew if you were going to get another season. But these two series are so popular now. The disrespect for Cora is incredible because at one point they just moved it to their app essentially like the final season. It was just like, I was podcasting about at the time. I had to figure out how to watch it
Starting point is 00:06:40 on the Nickelodeon app. I saw so many toy commercials covering the last season of Cora. Anyway, why is it endured? I think there's something really elemental. First of all, it only grew and grew and grew. I think when it hit Netflix, not even like this most recent time,
Starting point is 00:06:57 but the first time it hit Netflix, there was a big boom and interest in Avatar. And then when it hit Netflix the second time, which coincided with our lovely COVID pandemic lockdown, there was just a whole new general. of people who found it, who were watching for the first time. Avatar, Cora, TikTok was popping off. It was huge.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And so that's not really answer your question. Why? That's sort of how. Why? I think there's just so much, there's a lot of, like, joy and sweetness and community and also some life lessons and also some interesting, like, sort of religious concepts seated in in a way that is sort of surprisingly mature. and then Cora gets like deeply mature, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And so it's a show that aged with his audience. It has a lot to say. And it's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Beautiful. Brings me to tears. And Jomi, I'm so interested in when you got into Avatar because I feel like you were the perfect age to have seen it the first time around. Did you like actually watch it live on Nickelodeon as it was premiered?
Starting point is 00:08:05 I saw the last season live. And I wrote about this actually. Those are the first thing I ever wrote for The Ringer.com. What a great website about what avatar like means. And part of it is just how, you know, the magic and the realism. I know those two words don't, it doesn't sound like they make sense together. But in this world, it does. You know, there's something that grounds it, despite the fact that all these kids are, you know, bending elements.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You know, the seriousness of it, but also the, the, levity it provides, there's just such a great balance in that series that no matter where you are or, you know, how far away you've gotten from the start of the series, you can always come back and just jump right into that world. It's truly incredible. And Steve, were you like me? I was probably too old to be watching Avatar, but I remember the first episode and I thought it was the most amazing thing ever. Were you like Avatar head from the beginning? I was introduced to Avatar from a friend in college. College, really?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yes, yeah, from in college. Because, like, there was, like, it was, there was rumors that there was going to be a spinoff show of Avatar. And, like, everybody was talking about the fact that, like, this show was amazing, and I had never even really seen it. And it was kind of on the lips of everybody that I didn't, uh, really get a chance to actually watch it. And then by the time I had finished that first, the last Airbender, I was fully in on
Starting point is 00:09:36 whatever Cora was going to be. I was absolutely excited. I thought that this was one of the best, like, story. of collected fiction for like, this is like our generation's Lord of the Rings, this is our generation Star Wars, like, it's a perfect like adventure for not only kids, but like
Starting point is 00:09:52 a canon that is so rich and deep that I've always wanted to dive back into. Even doing this draft, I'm like, I need to rewatch this show now. And I mean, I've rewatched both series over the pandemic and I just want to say like, this is a Cora friendly podcast. I always hated how much hate Cora got.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I think it's just such a good spinoff. I think it's probably more uneven than the airbender is. But in terms of how emotional it gets and kind of the very fraught topics about what it means to be a young woman, a leader, what is it, your sexuality, all of these things. I love Cora. But speaking of spinoffs, let's be real. How are you guys feeling about the future of Avatar? Like, let's rank from a height meter.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Netflix has a live action show. coming out that the two creators departed. Then we have Avatar Studios and the next animated movie is going to be about Team Avatar and there's rumors we're getting Kyoshi and Korah movies. If we could rank this in terms of like Most Hype to Lease Hype, where are we going?
Starting point is 00:10:56 I think most hype for me is obviously Team Ang movie overall number one is for me personally. Joe, what about you? So the Kyoshi movies was to come first and then they swapped out the like sort of adult and gang movie to replace it. I think maybe to be in,
Starting point is 00:11:16 maybe to start on a more familiar territory or maybe to be in closer competition with this live action Netflix show, which by the way is at the bottom of my ranking because if Brian and Michael left, then I'm like, I'm still interested, but and we've been burned by live action avatar before.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But, so Kyoshi's the top of my list. And I saw, I saw, someone was pissed off that the projects got swapped and they're like, what I don't want to watch is Taft Befong become a cop. So
Starting point is 00:11:48 you can leave the adult gang one out of it. So, but I am still interested in what's going on with them. So I would say for me, it's Kyoshi adult ang gang, Cora, and then live action avatar is my ranking.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Show me where you land in my friend. I got to stick with Seeing the gang again, like that, you know, that's something you never thought I would get a chance to do. So, you know, I was excited for Kiyoshi, but I got to see Team Avatar. That's one. Kiyoshi 2, Kora 3. I love Kora. But I've always been interested in seeing Kiyoshi, like, on screen, like, for real, for real.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And then not ranked, not on my ranking is the Netflix live action. Yeah, it's, it's bottom last. It's just, like, as soon as they were like, Breaks not involved anymore. I was like, uh-oh. We're going to have problems. I'm going to be honest. If they mess up two live action Avatar series,
Starting point is 00:12:47 it's just, I'm going to be like, guys, I'm going to be in front of the Netflix headquarters with a sign and, and some yelling. It's going to be just, how dare you?
Starting point is 00:12:57 How dare you? Steve, where are you, are, is your list similar? Mine's exactly the same as Joanna's. Kiyoshi's well at the top of the list. I won't give away much of,
Starting point is 00:13:07 it's any stratagems for the draft. but like I certainly think that like a great look into the Earth Nations politics come that time of the Avatar canon. I think that's perfect. I think Kyoshi is like the best. So yeah, I definitely want to see the Kyoshi movement first. But like the Netflix outing sounds like a lot of possible trouble. So I think we can we can short leash on that. We'll be positive.
Starting point is 00:13:36 We'll be positive, but. It's surprising to me, like, you know, Charles, you likening it to Lord of the Rings. It does feel that rich. Like, the lore feels that rich of this show. The world feels so huge, so many possibilities for different kinds of adventures in this world. The way that this massive IP with so much goodwill behind it has been fumbled by Nickelodeon by Netflix is wild to me. And so I'm so glad that it's, it really could feel like Nickelodeon's game of of Thrones. And I'm not trying to be hyperbolic because like it's that big and spreading. And like,
Starting point is 00:14:12 you could do so much with this. And the fact that we are still like just feasting for something, it's, it's tough. Right. So the fact that Brian and Mike have like started their own studio is so encouraging to me because it's like they have, they're no longer being sort of like buffeted by the winds of these other creators. So I'm actually not clear on what their full control. the rights are in terms of like how much Nickelodeon still needs to be cut in on this thing that they created for Nickelodeon. But I'm hopeful that in control of it, we'll see more and better from them. I'm so excited. A new era. Before we get into the draft, I have to ask you guys an important question. Who is everybody on the ringerverse in terms of their avatar character?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Character? Everybody? So let's say, Midnight Boys, House of R. I have Joanna. I have Joanna already. Oh, no. To me, you are pre-coptoff. Oh, thank you. What a massive compliment. Jesus. Just because, like, it's like you're so nice, but also, like, sometimes we'll be on a pod and you'll have such, like, the most well-said biting critique, like, Toff out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And I'm like, you'll just have, like, you'll just say something. I'm just like, critic Joanna jumped out. That to me is very much tough. Like, she'll say something in the. the middle of an episode. I'm like, this is why you're the best. For the, okay, in slight defense, not to, not to pull too hard. I just love Toff. But like, what if Toff was like a commissioner Gordon type figure? Just like a good cop and a bad, in a bad, there are no good cops. No, no good cops, Steve. She invented the cops.
Starting point is 00:15:53 That's the white. Oh, no, I forgot about that. She invented the con. Honestly, I'm so glad VAD is not on this episode because he would be, it would be really bad. That's wild, Steve. I this is this is not fair and we'll come up with a better one but like my first instincts for for my beloved Mallory are those like Earth Kingdom girls who are like
Starting point is 00:16:16 screaming over Ang and like yeah the ultimate passionate fans oh my god I have one for I have one for Jomey to me Jomi is Saka because as much as he tries to act
Starting point is 00:16:35 He doesn't have it with the ladies. You know, Saka, we're getting down. Like, Saka be running through all these kingdoms. The girls are like, yo, Saka. Come on this podcast and we lie. I love Saka. That's nuts. You don't like Saka?
Starting point is 00:16:50 No, I love Saka. I love Saka. I love Saka, but you're lying on me. You know, you come in the podcast, you're just going to lie. That's nuts. Charles, that you would do that. To me, I know I can't do my own, but if I'm doing a double casting, I think Van Hanks.
Starting point is 00:17:05 has to be my uncle Ira. He has to be... I don't know. I was... I was too sweet. I was too sweet. I was too nice. Ira was way too nice.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Ira's way too nice. All right, who's van dead? He's like a Tenzin. You know? A Tenzin? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah. Like, like, you know, someone you like look to for leadership, but also is crotchety as fuck. You know what I mean? That's... That's Van. Love Van. All right. There's two more.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I can't do my own. And we have Steve as well. Who's Steve? Pa-boo. Pabu. Pa-boo. Pa-boo. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I was going to say Steve is more like Appa because he's always there when he's needed to me. That's true. And he's just, he's kind of just like all helping us. Like, we're just like, oh, like we can always count on Apa
Starting point is 00:17:59 to get us where we need to go. I'm fine with Pabu. Pabu and Ava are like two of them. the most beloved, universe and beloved characters in the Avatar universe. I do like to sleep a lot, so I might be Appa. And you're the Christmas cuddly bear. It's awesome, bro. That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You're Aph opposed. Okay, I'll take Appa. All right, we just have me left. Be, be kind of. Oh, man. Now, you're Jet. Jay's, oh, no. No.
Starting point is 00:18:26 No. No. respect. No. You can't let that slide. Personally, I wouldn't take that kind of disrespect. That's just me. This is rough.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Just me. This is fucking rough. I think you might be May. Oh. No. Azula's. Azula's friend. One of Zula's friends.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Oh, wait, no. The one who did Zuko? Yeah. Oh, I fuck with her. Heavy. I love this. Yeah. Wait, wasn't she voiced by Aubrey Plaza?
Starting point is 00:18:55 No. That was Eska. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm getting, excuse. May, oh, but Eska's also a good one. Like, May is just like, doesn't fuck with anyone and just has no tolerance for your bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But yeah. Yeah, exactly. But makes the good right choice in the end. Exactly. And comes through with those knife cuts, man, that's you. This is perfect. This is perfect casting. But guys, it's time.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's time for the drafts. I'm going to go over the rules really quick. we're going to go in snake order, meaning the first three players have one pick, the last player gets two, we go back up in reverse order until we're back to the first player who gets two picks,
Starting point is 00:19:32 and we repeat that process until the draft is done. The Avatar draft also is not about constructing the most powerful team, all right? We are not, this isn't that draft order is chosen at random, and I'm introducing a new rule because when Van is away,
Starting point is 00:19:47 the kids play, Steve, you're no longer last, okay? You're no longer last, okay? last. The Steve rule is being fucking thrown in the garbage, okay? I would just like to say that Steve imposed that rule on himself. Like, we did it for Black History Month because that made sense.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And afterwards, Steve was just like, I'll go last. We were like, cool. Sounds good. I'm abolishing the Steve's rule. I've talked to the drafting commission. They're all like, give Steve a fighting chance. So we're giving Steve a fighting chance this round. Please, please, please. Do not get the Jury LaForge Award this time.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That's fine. I beg of you. What I will say is that like, I hope this random number generator just puts me last so that'll just be the same order. And then also, last rule, we have to talk about it. Let's be clear. What does Wildcard stipulate for this episode?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Is Wildcard any character that we want? Anything. I think you could put another, like a double of another category you have. Like if you feel like you need to. Because last time we drafted, everybody's like Wildcard for,
Starting point is 00:20:51 should be for picks that are like, not the popular picks. I think Wildcard should stand for any single character who has not already been picked on the board. Yeah, anything you want. Yes, anything that we want. There's so many characters
Starting point is 00:21:05 and fun things to put in this show that we love that I want to make the wild card like literally anything that we want to give something that we love a moment of shine. Hell yeah. In this iteration of the draft, Wildcard should stand for anything because, hey, there are a lot of characters.
Starting point is 00:21:22 It's a lot of, you know, fun people that we love. And so I'm excited to see what comes out. So yeah, wild cards should be for anybody. All right. Yo, Steve, roll it. Let's use going for second, third, fourth. All right. So I'm going to be implementing a random number generator given all of our assigned numbers. Charles will be one. Joanna will be two. I will be three. Jome will be four. And with a roll of the dice, number three, I'm first. Oh, Steve. I'm serious. Wow. Okay. Great. Steve is like, wow, what a crazy random happen. What are the odds?
Starting point is 00:21:54 The guy picking the draft first. Wow. That's nuts. This would not stand in fantasy football. This would not slide. This is a Dominion random number generator. We don't know how many hands is touched. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And number two is Joanna. Oh, never mind. This is the perfect system. Perfect system. I support it entirely. And then with that, that'll be number one with Charles.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And then Jomi will be going last. But then he'll get the double pick. Got it. All right. So, wow. first. Oh my gosh. Steve, this is,
Starting point is 00:22:25 this is so much power for you. Oh my God. Don't pick Joy Lafort's first. Holy shit. Steve, Steve came in here
Starting point is 00:22:32 so like hanged on. He's like, well, I know I won't get my first you pick. That's good. That's the thing. Like I knew I would.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I could hopefully get my third one. Man. Categories, if we skipped it, the categories are avatar, bender, non-bender,
Starting point is 00:22:46 animal, and wild card. All right. Great. Wow. Um, man. I think I got to go,
Starting point is 00:22:53 Avatar here first. Like, this has got to be the first, the last, the everything. I know I stated a bit of favoritism for a certain Avatar, but I think once we're here, we got to start with the one that it's all here about.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It's Avatar Ang. Boom! What a basic ass-pick, Steve. Steve, come on, you had so much power. No, it's too late. It's too late. I like, I like, I like. But you had so much power, Steve.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Come on, bro. No, I see the vision. No, I see the vision. You're just pointing the fans. No, no, no, no. Stay with the Steve. No, stay by your laurels, Steve. That's what I am.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I am standing by that. I literally didn't think that he would have been available to me. That's nuts. It is nuts. But no, I definitely, no. I think Ang is a far worthy pick. I didn't say he wasn't a far worthy pick. I'm just saying like you, you, you, you knew who you wanted to pick.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And you stood there and you lied. For us and the fans. That's nuts, Steve. Coward shit. That's what I want. That's cowardly, bro. I believed in you. No matter what,
Starting point is 00:24:03 I'll be met with hostility, even though I am first. That's fine. I think Avatar Ang's the best. I think he's great. I love Ang, too, but come on, man. Like, come on, bro. You know what your heart wanted to do right there?
Starting point is 00:24:15 You know what you really wanted to do right there? You don't know what I'm capable of in the rest of this draft. You really don't. If history is anything, man, it's not. Damn. Look, Ang's a good, like a first pick.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm not, I'm fucked every which way with you guys. I can't, I can't win at all. Listen, look, can I talk about how great,
Starting point is 00:24:34 can we talk about how great Ang is for a second? Let's be clear, Steve. Ang is the consensus number one overall. He's got all the tools, the most popular player.
Starting point is 00:24:45 You know what I mean? Like, he went to Duke as all five tools, can dribble, can shoot, can pass, can play defense. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:53 But everybody knows who you wanted to pick, Steve. And we'll get to, we'll get there later. But you went with the concessal number one overall. Steve wants to win. See, Steve wants to win. Steve wants to win. Steve's building a win now team. And I understand the point.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Isn't the point of winning? Maybe what if the actual pick that I wanted was, A. I don't think that's true because you started your sentence with. Well, this isn't what I wanted to pick originally. But now that I'm here, that's what you said. I said, I said a little bit of bias towards. Get your winner for pick people. I'm going to do my pick.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I'm going to do my pick and then we'll just continue this conversation. My pick is I believe what Steve would have picked, which is Avatar Kiyoshi is my, is my big. And I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I feel like I'm disappointed that I got A. I feel like Steve didn't pick Kiyoshi to preserve our friendship. That's what I think. Also that. I think Steve is like, I don't want you wanted to leave this podcast hating me. So I'll let her have Kiyoshi.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And to that I say only just. will bring peace. So thanks for that. Steve. Avatar Kiyoshi. I'm also a considerate drafter. No, she's fucking goaded. Kiyoshi's amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I love Kiyoshi. Kiyoshi's great. I remember when they had the finale and Angus talking to all the past avatars. He's like, I don't want to kill Ozai. And he comes to Kiyosci. Kioshi's like, listen, my guy.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You got to kill. You got to get rid of him, bro. Hell, yeah. I would have a big kill team. I would a big kill team. You will be... That episode with Kyoshi, the like,
Starting point is 00:26:27 the detective mystery episode with Kyoshi where Kyoshi's like, oh yeah, I killed him. Yeah. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Kiyoshi, she wasn't a wartime avatar,
Starting point is 00:26:37 but she was like, highly diplomatic when it came to her duties as avatar. Like, she fucking got shit done. By diplomatic, you mean she killed a lot of people? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Kiyoshi's a fucking badass. I love her. Steve, I'm sorry that you got mocked mercilessile for picking the literal tool. For picking the fucking main character. All I'm saying is that's not what you wanted to do though. That's not what you want to do in your heart.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah, because here's the thing. I agree with, I agree with Jomey. Like, Steve, this was your moment to shine. And you buckle to popular opinion. And you buckled. You got shook. I really just wanted to pick A.
Starting point is 00:27:14 All right. What's Charles's pick? All right. Ooh. All right. You know what I got to do? All right. I'm going to go with
Starting point is 00:27:27 Wildcard And I'm going to This guy. This guy. What? Starting with a wild card. Oh, what? Like, chill on my strategy. I'm excited to see.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Continue, please. Chill on my strategy, okay? Actually, you know what? I'm going to go Bender now because Jomey's being an asshole about it. Oh, so who's fucking swinging in the wind? Who's fucking like a popular picture now? Charles.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'm going to go Bender. I got to give it up. to honestly the person who showed the most growth the most growth throughout the entire series, the original honestly a man after my own heart, Prince Zuka.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Hell yeah. And by my growth you mean moving away from a terrible hair style to a good hair stuff. I love Zuka. When we started, when we started this pod or before the pod, I said I would get takes off. You know, I would be engaged. Like, I was really excited.
Starting point is 00:28:24 not only was that a terrible pick Zucco is by far the worst firebender that we spend the most time I didn't think that Jomi would be coming off with the hater energy this episode Jomey's Jomey sitting on the back the ass end of the draft on the turn so he has nothing to do bunch of ships right now I think this is entirely
Starting point is 00:28:46 Zucco I'm not picking Zucco let's be clear Zucco is one of the best written characters on that show I didn't say, did I not, did I say that? That's not what I said. That's not what I said. This is not a draft about who's the most powerful. I'm not worried about powerful.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm just saying, if you watch the show, he is by far and away, like one of the, like, I think Zhao's probably worse because he beats Zhao and Agni Kai. But with all the firebenders who stay, we hang around with for a majority of the series, Zuko's one of the worst. It's nuts. Yeah, but we're talking growth factor here.
Starting point is 00:29:22 We're talking good. What are you talking to What are you? What do you mean worse? He lightning bends. Yeah. Not, not really. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Think about it. Think about it. I'm going to make, here's, here's what we're going to, I'm going to make my pick. Because you're talking, Zuko,
Starting point is 00:29:39 end of Avatar has gone through all of his, like, evolution. Teach his fucking A. And he gets, he gets packed up by Azula multiple times. Multiple times.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Whoa, whoa, whoa. she fucking packs up the avatar. So like we can't, like, come on, bro. That's a tough metric here. That's what I'm saying. The only person that could defeat Azula is Azula. And she did it. And she did that.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yes. Did that shit to herself. She did do that. At the, like when we look back at it, Iro is special. Ozai special. Zula, super special. Zucco,
Starting point is 00:30:11 he gets, he gets a head to him. But once again, you're acting like this draft is about like versus who is the most powerful. I'm not. I didn't say that. If we're talking about, like, when I think of a firebender from Avatar, and I think about the one I have the most emotional connection to, the one by the end of the series who I, like, I feel for him because of everything that he's lost. I get you.
Starting point is 00:30:32 No, I get you. How much you can tell that, like, he learned from this experience, became such a great leader. I just have such an undying love for Zuko. And I love that for you. I feel a little bit like your wishy-washy Avatar fan, Joe. I'm not a wishy-wash avatar, right? I wrote that in my piece.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Make your picks. You got two picks, Joey. I do got two picks. I'm not going to lie, Keogh. She was my avatar pick. That's my girl. I love her. She's special.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Special. But I'm going to go with my home girl from the Southern Water Tribe. Hell yeah. I'm rocking with Kora. Yes. Nice. I've maintained this. People get online and be like, man, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:12 Cora was this kind of avatar. Da-da-da. She's special, man. Y'all not seeing the vision. She could be in his ass for me. Bro, bro, let's come on now. She put, she put an Ang in a pack. My guy.
Starting point is 00:31:26 See, my thing with Ang, ain't not ready for prime time. Ang don't want to fight nobody, you know what I'm saying? He had to go through all his lives so he wouldn't kill Ozzy. Cor would have been in that thing. Like, listen. Yeah, but he's also 12 and like plagued by not being a better person.
Starting point is 00:31:38 He's the last of his actual religion. Listen. I mean, I still ain't got things going on. I understand. Like, you know, spiritually, you know, he's probably one of the strongest avatars. But it's just, not going down
Starting point is 00:31:49 the way it's supposed to go down. We had a, we had a debate on the child by content show. We had a debate about the, like, greatest finale ever,
Starting point is 00:31:56 and Dave Gonzalez picked Avatar the last Airbender. Series finale? Yeah, series finale. And I was like, and I'll credit this.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I saw this from a TikTok, so it's not my original idea, but like, and goes through all of this, not to kill Ozai. Yeah. Imagine like Toph and Suki and Saka show up,
Starting point is 00:32:16 and they're like, oh, yeah, we killed so many people. on those airships? We don't have several airships. Yeah. Were we not supposed to kill? Oh, but we didn't kill Hitler?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Okay. A lot of people drowned. Sorry, Mark Hamill. You get a pass. Oh, man. That's good. That's good. I was ready to, just on principle,
Starting point is 00:32:40 Jomey, I was ready to make fun of any pick you chose because you were being such a Jomey about it. But I can't. Cora is. my queen. I love her. I know, I love Cora, but can I be honest? She's the best, like, she's one of the best fighters in terms of the
Starting point is 00:32:55 avatars we've seen. She did not do a great job as an avatar. Rewatching Legend of Cora, just in terms of, like, the resume, I'm just like, Cora, come on. It's tough. It is tough to like power scale versus how good of an avatar were you, and it's, yeah, that was tough.
Starting point is 00:33:11 You mean letting the Spirit Wilds, like, just take over a city was like not, not the move? Might not have been the best idea. Or I mean, destroying the avatar, like your past lives was a little like, yeah, uh, Cora. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:33:24 There's no coming back for that. There's no like coming back from that. I can't really pick at like, Cora as like she's obviously, besides, I think Roku's actually better. But like, core, I'm like, yo, as an avatar, you, your resume is wild spotty. No, she, you know, she, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:40 she made mistakes. We all make mistakes. You understand what I'm saying. So now, so this, the second pick. This one's tough. I'm not going to hold you guys. Because when I came in and said, I was going to vote with my heart.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Right? I told you guys this. And if I don't have this character on my, on my team, I'm going to be hurt. I'm going to be, it's going to ruin my entire day, my week, in fact. And so I might be reaching, but I'm going with my goat.
Starting point is 00:34:12 My favorite character, probably in the entire show. I need a Zula. I got to have her. That's my goat. You're putting you're putting too extremely and I and I say this as a feminist temperamental women on your team and I'm excited to see what happened. I mean, here's the thing like so toxic. I need it.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I need it. Let's be real. Azula. Yes. Fighting wise I could see that. Cool. You're shitting on everybody else's pick like you had so many characters. I was literally boot off stage for picking Ang.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And like, can you think, Azula? Azula's great. Azula's great. Like, she was on my list. I wanted to pick her. But, dog, you got two picks and you pick Azula? Can I explain myself? I started with, like, you know, I needed to have her, right?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Because, and this is like, this is a safe space, right? I'm going to, like, snitch on myself right now. But this is good content. So, great. When I first watched this series, this is a safe space, right? This is just the four of us. I can, like, it's not getting out. No one else is listening.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Do you admit that you love me? mean girls. So tell me. Wait, is Azulia your type? Is that... Tell me about your mean girl kink, Jimmy. Oh, man. Listen. Oh, man. This explains so much, man. I'm watching the show, like, my first went through as a kid, right? I'm watching season three, right? We get to the end. Azula's getting packed up by guitar. And I feel terrible. I'm like, wow. Wow. I, you know, what's wrong? Man, this girl, I feel so sad. I'm like, man, I wish... Man, like, she could be...
Starting point is 00:35:46 you know, she could be rehab, bro. Like, we, we could see, just like we saw for Zula. We could see an arc for Azula where, you know, she was a good person and da-da-da, all this and that, you know. Like, we could see a redemption art for Azula. I come back and I watch it when it drops on Netflix. I go back, I'm watching season two and watch season three. I'm like, yeah, I like to do, man, Azula's my girl. I do, da-da.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I get to the end, I realize, wow. that was just me saying I could fix her. That was it. All right. So mean girls, if you're listening. If you're trying to slide into Jomi's DMs, it is still August.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It is still hot Jomi summer. I didn't know how hot because it's, for real. Any and all mean girls who. He's right. Don't mind Jomey thinking he can fix you.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I need, she's yelling at you at the ball. Dog, I just didn't know that Azula did it for you. This is just, I've, wow. Listen, Azula has it, you know? Azula, very, very just great. It's just the fact that Jomi, like, it makes so much sense. When you hear, when you hear, like, if we ever release any of the, like, unedited shit,
Starting point is 00:37:04 we've heard about Jomi's love life. Oh, no. Shadow Protocol. If I'm here, do I get to, like, here? Great, I think it's great Elise, right? Who does her voice? Yeah. I'm going to have her like record a cameo for you, Jomey, just so you can like hear her say something for you. Oh, Christmas time. Please do it because I really wanted you.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I don't think I can handle that. One of my-ending Jomey's life right here. One of my listeners got me a cameo from one of the voice actors on Avatar. I won't say who until the draft is over and it like, it really did make my day. Oh, my God. That's amazing. We can we can make this happen like today, Joe, today. Today. My God. Actually, you text me
Starting point is 00:37:45 next time you're having a bad day and I'll send you a break in. Deploy. Zula protocols activate. It'll just be a Zula being so mean to you
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Starting point is 00:39:27 which includes gas, bloating, rumbling, and abdominal discomfort. All right, so I have another pick. I'm going wildcard. It's easy for me. I'm going with the greatest earthbender of all time. I have to go talk. These are cool. I have to go talk.
Starting point is 00:39:45 She's such a bad. here at the draft, maybe I'm the only one who loves Toff as much. No, don't you dare, Charles. Shut up. Don't act like you're the only person that doesn't love Toff on this call. If we're going to be real, she was the only one who was with the shits. I'm not like other girls. I love Toff.
Starting point is 00:40:01 She's the only one who's with the shits on Team Avatar. I'm like, yo, like, you slumming it with the JV. Come on. Like, Toth. Like. Charles, let's rewind like 20 minutes when you told me I was tough. Like, what a high compliment, Charles. It is because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:40:15 When Toff gets a thing. introduce, I'm like, tough, it's just like so much more ready for this war than any of these kids. Suffers literally nobody. No bullshit. And like, for the most part, like pretty self-sufficient
Starting point is 00:40:30 and like doesn't need much from Ang or the rest of the gang until much later. And even then, like she still like is open to learning quite a bit. Like, she's awesome. She was the only one at the Eastern Eastern International Temple or the Western Naira tempo was like, hey man, you need, you need Zuko to teach you firebending, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. Like, it's not going to go down without it. She's smart. She is extremely capable, like, legitimately one of the goats of the series. We don't talk about it a lot, but she invented metal bending, like, legitimately a true hero. Trailblazer. Metal bending, Taf versus Azula, who's winner? I mean, I mean, you know, I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:41:12 That's tough, baby. It really depends what kind of day Azula is having. honestly. Like, what are her bangs look like? You already know how I'm leaning. What are her bangs? My money's on top. I'll put my money on Toff. End of series, Taf versus Zula, I think Toth. Has Azula recently, like, given herself a new haircut?
Starting point is 00:41:33 God, Azula had a bad day. Not her best day. That was a bad day in the end. Quite easily the best fight in all of Avatar, Azula versus Zuko and Katara is easily the best fight in the entire six. special. The music. Yeah. Just the music, the scale, you know, just seeing them.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So, Joanna, you have the next pick. Who are you going with? I know. I'm so stressed. I got to take him off the board so no one else grabs him. It's Apa. Oh, I know who it is already. It's Appa. Oh, wait, Appa? Really? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. No, no, no. I love Appa, but
Starting point is 00:42:08 I'm not going to give away who I actually thought it was. No, I mean, I, okay. Yeah. I think I know who you mean. That person's also like my ideal team is within my grasp perhaps. But, but APA, I mean, Opah, not only like, beloved and wonderful,
Starting point is 00:42:24 but, like, practicality. Oh, my God. Like, getting around. Yeah, no, you can, like, forget the, like, flying eagles from Lord of the Rings problem. Like, you can just go anywhere. No offense to Naga, but, like, it's Appa all the way.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It's different. It's different. It's different. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Indeed. All right. So I think it's me. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Well, let's get. ready to get mad at me then, I guess. Okay. I got, okay, for my bender pick, I got to go with, like, probably just the coolest uncle that's ever lived.
Starting point is 00:42:58 You knew it. There it is. This is great. That's good. There it is. I think one of my favorite characters all time, period,
Starting point is 00:43:07 is Uncle Iro. The greatest, like, the greatest uncle you could ever ask for, the actual, like, emotional anchor point for Zuko of like,
Starting point is 00:43:15 even when I was starting to get annoyed with the actual time that we spent away from the gang and spending it with Zucco, it's Iro that's bringing you through everything and making like Zucco more grounded and giving such emotional weight to everything that the Fire Nation stands for. It's incredible, the arc that he goes through. And don't even get me started on losing his son.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Like, oh my God. Oh, that episode broke me. Like, broke me. Incredible. Yeah, leaves on the vine. Yeah. But don't talk about it. I'm going to cry. But also, remember when Uncle Iro got secret ripped in jail?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Oh, and he got prison jacked? He got prison ripped? Oh, yeah. Come on. I remember he told Serena Williams, hey, man, this ain't where you want to be. Go home. Let's think the smoke you want. He's like, bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Lightning Ben, breathe fire. She's the best. And serve you an excellent cup of tea at the end of the day. Or remember when like, it's tough, right? who finds him like in a hot spring essentially. Yeah. Iro just gets it is the point. He does. I think Iro is actually in the running for probably the best written character across Avatar.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Oh my God. Yes. What he does, what he serves in the function of the story, I just love Iro so much. This was actually a very inspired pick. What's your second picks? I feel like I got to get the second best animal off the board. we got to go with our favorite we got to go with Momo
Starting point is 00:44:50 I love Mo Mo Mo Mo Mo Mo no that Momo's number two Mo Mo Mo's not number two I love Movo Paob disrespect Not Paobu disrespect I like Pao is way better than Pao When I like what are you talking about
Starting point is 00:45:03 Momo was with Ang when he was learning about energy bending He was with him when all the stuff that like no Like don't play Momo out like that No I'm just saying Momo's third not second It's not silver. Pobloon.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Okay. I fucking love Momo. Don't you disrespect. No disrespect to Momo here. All right, Joetta, you have another pick. Where are you going? So I've got my avatar. My animal.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I'm going to take my bender off the board, which is she could blood bend and she can fucking heal also. It's Katara. Okay. Can we... Can we, like, fully establish that bloodbending is the raddest shit ever? So cool. So scary.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So cool. It's... It's so cool. It's mad scary. It's awesome, though. Like that episode when she learned about bloodbending was like probably the craziest thing I've ever seen. Now, I just want you to imagine my team so far. Katara and Kiyosha coming to fuck you up so badly.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Right. Flying on the back of Alpha. Just not nearly as mean as the gang that Jomi's coming out with. She got some hitters on my team. Got some real hitters. They're saying what you want. I got some real pacifists on my team, actually. Team cuddly Christmas bear 100%.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah. I mean, I real could put a good shift in. I wrote it could lightning bend too. Here's a thing like your team is imploding within the first 30 seconds. Like Corr and Azul are going to fucking kill each other. That's true. They hate each other. They hate each other's guts.
Starting point is 00:46:33 First and foremost, every single team has issues, you know, I mean. You got to go through the rough patches. You know, chemistry is when you think about chemistry, right? It's hard. You know, synergy. Wow. No team showed up on the... Walter White showed up to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Nobody, let me tell you about chemistry. Nobody showed up on the first day of training camp. It was like, hey, we're all buddies. We're all friends. Let's get together. All you got to do is give them a common goal and you can achieve magic with anybody. Buddy, your shit is the fucking Brooklyn Nets. You really think that like, it's good.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Come on, bro. Don't worry. Don't worry about me, right? I still got 60% of my team to pick. Cor is requesting a trade the moment summer camp starts. Come on now. A lot of game left. A lot of game left.
Starting point is 00:47:17 All right. And with that, it's up to Charles. It's up to me. This is rough. This is rough. I'm going to go, I'm going to go non-bender here. And I'm stuck between two people. I'm stuck between the person that I think is
Starting point is 00:47:33 by far the better combatant, by far the better companion. Or the person that you need heart. You need heart on your team. You know what I'm saying? You need somebody who I think is very, very, very, rated when we talk about characters in Avatar. I fucking got to go Saka.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I got the way, Saqa. Absolutely. It's just, it's just necessary. I don't think he's the most powerful non-bender. But come on. Like, he's the heart. Like, I don't think they make it to defeating the fire lord. If, like, Saka is not the glue that keeps team Avatar together. Of course, man.
Starting point is 00:48:04 People's champion and, like, adapting to, like, everything. Like, always hitting that grind to, like, learn to know that he's got to fucking compete with Benders all the time. He's a strategist. Yeah. No strategy. I mean, boomerang, the sword, and to like Charles''s earlier point,
Starting point is 00:48:23 they're poetry. They're like, bro, Saka's not a water bender. He's not a fireman. He's not a bender. Charles Point, he's a backbender. My man was getting all the girls, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Oh, geez. He was in the streets. Joe, all right, Joe. He wasn't. No, no, that doesn't stop the cap. That's not lying. He is not lying. He is just a green.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Suki, Ua, even Tai Lee was like, what's going on, brother? I know, I'm saying, like, the literal moon is, yeah, fucking wild. By the way, that's one of my favorite, that's rough, buddy. My favorite interaction in all of avatars, that's rough, buddy.
Starting point is 00:49:00 It was in his bag. I have some respect for a goat, bro. Come on, now. That's rough, buddy. All right, so, Jomey, who are you going with? See, now everybody was getting on my case because I needed, you know, some, I needed some, my team needed some clarity.
Starting point is 00:49:14 and my team needs a leader. My team definitely needs somebody to come in, calm the waters. And so with my wildcard pick, shocked that still on the board this time, I'm taking my man's Avatar Roku. Damn, this makes it rough for me. It makes it rough for me. You're trying to double Avatar your team right now.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I think that's actually cheating. Like, if everybody is just like, Charles, you can't play Black Panther and Wildcard, Pick it two avatars. Wow. No, you can double avatar. I would just say good luck to Roku telling Azula. Yeah, again, like nothing's happening from Roku.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He's just sitting down. If they're not going to listen to Roku, who are they going to listen to? You know what I'm saying? Right? Like, you guys are like, he needs to call me for it. Ira would be a great pick here. Yeah. I would be great.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Can't have them. Second best option is Roku. That's the, he's a true hero, a true leader. And all respect. All respect to a goat. You know, dealt with Fire Nation BS before, you know, with Sozin, you know, ended up getting killed by the smog, but that's tough. Happens to the best of us, you know. But he put his shift in and all you can do is respect.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Respect to legend. All right. Second pick. Oh, yeah, I'm on the turn. Ooh. Yeah, I got to snatch. I got to snatch them up because they're not going to be not going to be here when I get, come back. I need my guy.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I need my fire ferret. Pablo Pabu Pabu Ney Pabu You know A stabilizing force In the chorus
Starting point is 00:50:55 In Cori's avatar You know Bowling My guy You know I always had them In the cut Because Pobu was a real one
Starting point is 00:51:01 You know what I mean So Gotta have my guy on my shoulder Need it Charles There's a lot of animals On the board Fun fact
Starting point is 00:51:10 Charles doesn't have an avatar You're just like Who gives a shit about an avatar? Layed in the cut With his avatar pick Here's the thing. I'm going to be honest, once Kyoshi and Ang were off the board, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:51:21 oh, here's. Like, I'm not going to win by my avatar pick. But my animal, I got to go with, arguably, not my favorite animal, not the most animal that I have the biggest emotional connection, but
Starting point is 00:51:36 you could say probably the most pivotal animal in all of Avatar. I'm going with the lion turtle. Wow. You snatched one of my Wild cards, buddy. Lion Turtle. If we're just talking about sheer
Starting point is 00:51:51 wisdom, power, like y'all can have all the avatars you want. They wouldn't be any future avatars without the fucking Lion Turtle. By the way, point of clarification, you're talking about the last living Lion Turtle that Ang interacts with to give him energy bad.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Correct. Yes. Because there's different ones. Because the first avatar got plused by the first, yeah. I just, I just find a really funny like seeing a lion turtle,
Starting point is 00:52:15 just like come up on the beach and then Zucco, Saka, and Toff just jump off it like they're breaching Normandy. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, here's the thing. I got to deal with Jomi's team now. What the fuck, what the fuck Cori and Zula going to do when the Lion Turtle comes?
Starting point is 00:52:31 You're like, shit. Again, I don't know what the Lion Turtle's go too. It's an inspired pick. It's an inspired pick. I know we've got at least, I know we've got at least two Terry Pratchett heads on this call. And I do love a good spiritual leader resting on the shoulders of a big giant turtle. It's true.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So I'm with this pick 100%. Joanna, where are you going? All right. I know the last two people I want on my team. It's just like which one am I most in risk of losing? And I mean, I don't know if anyone wants these, but they're my hardcore faves. I'm going to go for wild card. You say a team needs heart and I think my team needs some heart.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So we're pulling in Bolin, my guy Boland. Oh, bowling. One of my favorite people of all. Lava Bender. Ever. If we actually want to talk about someone who's very famous with the ladies. Oh, backbender.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Oh, my God. For sure. Well, let's talk about it. Let's have a quick discussion. Bowling backs out. My man went outside on Cora. Let's be honest. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's fine. He spent four seasons of television watching watching Cora, Mako, and Asami, going back and forth between each other. My man's was in the cut.
Starting point is 00:53:45 man, I wish that could have been me, but it's not. It's fun. Listen, he's on a better path now. First of all. I don't say. He went outside originally, but he bounced back. He bounced back. Nutuck, hero of the south.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Bolin did fine. Got what is their name? Opel. Opel. I mean, it was what, Ginger. It was Esker first, then Ginger, then Opel. He did his thing, but originally it was looking a little grim for the boy. Bolin is the king of the hymboes, and this is why we love him.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And this is like, I've got, I've got Katara Kiyoshi to like, do not fuck around female characters. And you need like a strong in his core down with strong women, hymbo on your team. And that's Boland. Unproblematic fave. I think Kyoshi likes no men except she would like Bolin. That's what I think is true about Kiyoshi. Very true. I could see it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I can really see it. that's wonderful. All right. So Steve, you got two picks. I got two picks and then that's a wrap for me. Okay, so for,
Starting point is 00:54:52 okay, for my non-bender. I think, okay, yeah, I think I'm going to go with May for my non-bender. My goth queen, CEO of mine and her own business. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Irolls galore. Yes. Deadly Marx woman. And honestly, like, probably is above all of this and doesn't need to fight anyway. If we're talking about... This one's a chill on the beach. The ones I have a crush on, I had a crush on her. I love it.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Oh, my God. Yes. The best. Absolute best. I understand. Avatar's Mortisha Adams, my queen. Well, then, like, I feel like I complimented you, Charles, by comparing you to your number one crush.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Here's a thing, but it wasn't really a compliment because now you're just saying, like, I just want to date myself. which is very you know, the only one good enough for me is me now, Steve, I feel like you're letting down
Starting point is 00:55:59 the listeners. Okay. This has been a very, very sober draft for you. I'm very proud of you. But I feel like it hasn't been a Steve draft in the way I've wanted. And I hope I can do it with this last one because my wild car pick is actually somebody
Starting point is 00:56:14 that I've loved for. from the moment that I saw him. I love a wild card. I love a wild man. And it's probably Ang's actual day one. And that is King Boomy. King Boomy. King Boomy is a great.
Starting point is 00:56:29 King Boomy of the Earth Nation. Yes. Fucking insane Earthbender. Love this pick. A absolute loony tune. This is good. I love this guy. Like an actual tight hang.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And like somebody that, and will trust to the day he dies, King Boomy, one of the best. You guys are, you guys are light one guy. Where's Momo? Gets me every time. Gets me every time.
Starting point is 00:56:56 All right, Joanna, you have one more pick. You're non-bender. Where are you going? My non-bender, she is the Batman. I knew it. Oh,
Starting point is 00:57:06 for public cities. She comes through with all the gadgets. It's Asami Sato. Yes, Asami. Yeah. That's good. Gadgets galore. Think what she could build for Appa.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Hell yeah. Some crazy armor for Appa. Love it. Can I just say I, when Asami and Kora got together in the series finale, I was so happy. Because like, what you call it? I forget in his name. Mako, no one gives a shit about you, Mocko. He's terrible, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:36 He stinks. He stinks. He stinks. Maco, take your dumb scarf and leave. He stinks. I was sick. of that dude day one. The fact that he fumbled,
Starting point is 00:57:47 Cora and Asami, I'm like dog. Like this is, you got the greatest butterfingers in the fucking game, bro. All time bag fumbles. I can't,
Starting point is 00:58:00 I can't imagine being him right now seeing them living their best life together. You want to talk about going out sad. That's tough. Bolin's fine. Bolin's going to just fine. He started off, he started off, had a terrible start
Starting point is 00:58:12 made up for it in the back end. my man maco L after L after L after L after L be the real loser If we're talking about If we keep me to the buck It's tough The biggest loser in all of Avatarverse
Starting point is 00:58:23 It's fucking Mako Yeah Ozai went out better than him The only reason I care about him Is that he's Bolin's brother And Bolin would be sad if he died So I'm like okay Protect Mako
Starting point is 00:58:32 So Bolin doesn't get sad Other than that I don't care Yeah Also A cab for Maco Oh he's a cop too Fuck Mocker He's definitely a cop Yep
Starting point is 00:58:41 Oh geez All right, I have Avatar left and I'm going with a deep cut arguably the most powerful Bender, even though we don't get to see a lot of her on screen. I'm going with Yang Chen. They're a bender. Okay, now that I'm done with my draft,
Starting point is 00:59:00 I'm just going to say, just as for Juan, he was my, like, backup. Yeah, Juan's good. No, here's the thing. I thought I'd be left with Juan, honestly. I didn't pick Juan because I don't really like that season of Cora.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Like in turn, I think it's one of the weaker seasons of Cora. I don't love that season of Cora. Season two is like one of the worst seasons of the Avatar verse ever, but, but that two-parter. Yeah, that two-parter is excellent. Yeah. I come back, when I come back to a series,
Starting point is 00:59:28 I look forward to those two episodes in that, in that season, because it's so fun. Like, can I pick one now? No. No. No. Oh, hey, listen, if I pick Aang and get boot off stage, I got to stick with it. So if you...
Starting point is 00:59:43 Hey, she's the most powerful avatar. And she was a deity, so... All right, well. Cool. I mean, sure. I'm sure you're right. I would have to do some research. I'm still waiting for my wand spinoff, though.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Like, that was fucking Stephen Yun. Like, bring Stephen Yun back. That's true. To give us the continuing adventures of Wan, please. I would like... The wanderer. You can at least come back. I like Yang Chen.
Starting point is 01:00:07 She's cool. Airbender. Great. I'm sticking with her. No, you got to stick with it. I appreciate you, for everybody to yourself. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:14 Here's the thing. Y'all like the Juan episode. I really don't like the Juan episode. I rocked with that. I really don't. I don't like that season. And I love Cora, but no,
Starting point is 01:00:23 Juan is kind of whatever. Wow. So I honestly thought that Joanna snipe my pick. But she did. Oh, when I said Batman and you like freaked out? Who?
Starting point is 01:00:36 I mean, you know why I got to go. We got to go back to the island of Kyoshi. To the Kyoshi Orrins. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm rocking with my girl, Suki. Oh, I love her. She was close on my non-bender wild cards.
Starting point is 01:00:50 She was my real shortlist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember? Oh, my God. Remember when, like, App was missing for so long? And it's so sad. And then Suu Kiyu Kiyoshi and the Kyoshi warriors come up and find it. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:03 When Opah gets lost, it's like actually one of the saddest things that's ever been committed to, like, ever. It's tough. And they wait so long to read. New Night Ang and A, and A, but it's so long. So cruel. And, yeah, but when he's, like, feral and covered and, like, thorns. And then it's like, and then you're like, oh, thank God.
Starting point is 01:01:23 It's Suke. Thank you. Anyway. It's, it's beautiful. I love, love Suki. I love Suki in, and Sarkas dynamic, right? Where it's, like, capable, you know, strong woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:36 And then less capable. Just a dummy of a man. And, you know, they work together so great. I love them together. I love her so much. So got to have, got to have her on my squad. Really glad she was here. The only reason I didn't pick her is it felt like slightly redundant by having Kyoshi
Starting point is 01:01:55 and then a Kyoshi warrior. But I mean, Suu Kyi. No, you understand. I see the vision. Fucking killer. Love her. All right. Let's go down.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Let's go down our list. Steve, you have Ang, Iro, May, Momo, Kimbumi. Joanna, you have Kyoshi, Katara, Asami, Apah, Bolin. I have Yang Chen, Zuko, Saka, Last Living Line, Turtle, and Toff. And Jomi has Kora, Azula, Suki, Pabu, and Avatar. Charles, I love your team. That's so funny. Well, Charles basically got the team from the show.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Look. Here's the thing. Once I didn't get my two avatars, I'm just like, I just want to get the closest I can to the original team avatar. Like, if I get Zucco, if I get Toff, if I get Saka. It's pandering. That's pandering. That's pandering.
Starting point is 01:02:40 That's pandering. That's pandering. That's the definition of pandering. I honestly, I'm the definition of pandering. What are you talking about? I weirdly drafted team chill over here. Like nobody's really like having the,
Starting point is 01:02:50 they would be the best hang. That would know, Titus hang. May is going to get maybe a little bored. Yeah, I don't know if King Boomy is just like, is chill. Just like,
Starting point is 01:02:58 uh, whatever. I wouldn't define King Boomy is chill. But, you know. Boomy's, that would be fun. Boomy's a fucking hang.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Bumi will turn up like late night for the party. Like he'll get the, you know, the teaky torches out. I'm sorry, Joe me, but like, your team,
Starting point is 01:03:12 your team's chemistry is all fucked up, listen, it's all fucked up. Y'all just, you know, y'all not seeing the bigger picture. Avatar Roku's Steve Nash.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Like fucking Kora's trying to get him fired behind the scenes, right? Everybody's mean on Jomi's team. Everybody's got a street. That's what I'm saying. Pabu doesn't deserve this. Pabu's the heart of this.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Pabu's going to bring this team together. Pabu's having a bad time with this team. Pabu's going to be the real leader of this team. No, they're all going to like go soft for Pabu. Question about Avato. Roku that I didn't want to ask earlier. Do you get the dragon along with Roku?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Or is it just Roku? He's going to ride Pabu to battle. You would have to, you would have to draft the dragon in animal technically. All right, you'd have to put Fang. That's why I didn't bring it up earlier because I didn't want to do that. Is there anybody left on the board that your surprise is left on the board, guys? Yes. Cabbage man.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Cabbage guy. Cabbage man, yeah. Just can't believe that he's left on the board. The secret tunnel guy. The Boulder. The Boulder. The Boulder. The bowler is coming for you.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I was thinking of drafting Zahir. Zahir is amazing. Right? Here's the thing. My team already had a Zula. I can't do that to my squad, bro. Can't do it to my squad, bro. I was also thinking of drafting Rava just to, like, have the spirit of peace and light on my team.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I guess you could draft Rava in Wild Card. Yeah. I was thinking of foaming at the mouth guy. Bowling at the mouth guy My backup, if I didn't get Opa My backup was going to be blueberry spice head Which is one of like a baby, baby skyvison Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:51 You know, there's backup skybison if you need one It was that one fire general in the first season of Kora He was general, Iro No, not Iro Oh, Zhao Jiao, yeah, he yelled He was the one that's like Yeah, that's filth
Starting point is 01:05:09 that's that's weakness my team has no weakness i can't have can have a these teams are not about who's the most powerful joey like your team i'm disappointed you had such a good star wars draft in this in terms of chemistry this fucking team listen again but here's the thing charles i needed azula at what point would me picking a zula lead you to believe like oh yeah he's he's here for the chemistry had one of the most powerful teams running around with her they didn't last long what if you have what if you have someone like Judy, like master propaganda. Judy on your team, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:44 No shot. No shot. Ty Lee, I'm a big fan of in general. Judy terrifying. Yeah, Judy definitely terrifying. There was Kai. There's Janora. Pylee.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Wait, who's, I'm forgetting her name. Who's the really, really good martial artist on Azulisian? Tiley. Yeah. Tiley's my favorite. I love Tile. so much. She's great. Tiley Sparky Boom Boom Man.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Combustion Man. Combustion Man. Yeah. Oh, combustion man would have been a sneaky good pick. Wait, everybody from Zaire's team in season three? Yeah, Pilee. Pili. Yeah. Dude, we don't talk about it. I mean, we talk about a little bit like Corb being like mature. They killed a lot of people in some savage ways. Also, justice for Zahir.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Zachia was right justice for him fuck hold on oh my god here did nothing wrong there's also water for arms I don't I never remember her name
Starting point is 01:06:49 water for water water for water yeah she's a badass oh my god there's just water for arms there's also you way like could you draft the literal moon
Starting point is 01:07:03 that's my question to do what control the time to do what Control the tight. Just vibes? Oh, man. Or preserve the water nation, no big deal.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Everyone, this was such a relaxing, nice pod. Avatar, the last airbender brings out the best in people. I believe that very, very much. So happy. Did you guys have fun? I did, but now I want to go back in time and just draft the entire Red Lotus. Everyone on my team, my whole team is just the Red Lotus squad. plus opah.
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