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Episode Date: January 6, 2022

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Fandom, we are Charles Cope baby Chuck Holmes, the 24-carat closer. We are, Jomey, the explainer, a dinner on. We are Jonathan.

Little Spidey. Karma. Filling in today for the cuddly New Year's bear is Little Spidey. He's like, Little Spitey. He just got bit. He's crawling and crawled up the wall. I wonder if I can

Can crawl to the top. Leave Kerm alone. Is the voice necessary? I wonder if I can crawl to the top. And then I swing. Woo! Little Spitey! You know what he is?

Hold on really. You know what Jonathan is? Spider-Man freshman year. Oh, my God. Little Spitey. Jonathan Kerrba's filling in for Steve today. And the old man van here with the receding hairline. Together, we are known as the Midnight Boys.

Amidoo! Okay, thanks for the sound effect there. See, Little Spidey? You didn't come through with the sound effect. Now we're going to have to put it in post. Leave that in, by the way. Little Spitey, this is a little shaky. Okay, you're still wearing your old suit.

You got to get your Stark Tick. All right. We really appreciate Jonathan Philan Encia. Steve is off today. Programming reminders before we begin. It's Boba Fett time. It's Boba time. You like some boba and your tea.

We're going to give it to you here. on both The Midnight Boys and House of R. House of R is going to give you a deep dive in the chapter two of the book of Boba Fett. We've got a fun one for you today as we look at episode two of the book of Boba Fett. We'll let you know what we thought of the second episode.

We're going to cover some D.C. news. A lot of news happening in D.C. D.C. Which stands for direct causes of us having fun. DC direct causes, kind of. I don't think that's true. Jomi says, no, that's not what it stands for at all.

It doesn't stand for, it doesn't stand for diabolical chaos. No. A fandom? No? No, it doesn't stand for dreaded causality of fandom. All right. I should like that one.

That was a good one. Let's get this. We're going to cover some D.C. news, including reports on some major changes to the D.C.E.U. And we've heard you guys as cries. We're going to do a little lock in with my guy Jomi. Jomi is out here, lock it in and play a defense like Carmelo and Anthony. Locking people up. Lock in for Cobra Kai.

All right. Before we do anything else, though, we got to go ahead and getting to Boba Fett. And I am on. fire excited. I'm jammed up. I'm jammed up. I don't care what anyone else is. People are getting at you a little bit.

People were getting at us. I was seeing some of the replies people not liking BobaFet so far. Yeah, well, fuck them. That's how I feel. I'll be out. We're not even into the episode. I'm going to be honest with you.

I saw a tweet from a friend of mine, his name is Dig's World on Twitter. And it was so funny. It was one of the funniest tweets I've ever Red. He's from Toronto. He's a director. Great guy, nice follow on Twitter. He's mad at one of their players, Pascal Seaccom. And he said on Twitter, he said, yo, Pascal Seacom is trash. He's fucking terrible. Fuck you if you think differently. That's how mad he was at Pascal Seaccom. I'm on board with Boba Fett is amazing. It is great, fantastic television. And fuck you if you think

differently. That's how I feel. I still love you. I still going to hug you and rub your back. You know what I mean? But I love Boba Fett. Okay, before we get to anything else, let's run that spoiler warning. We're getting ready to talk about Boba Fent. You're listening to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. Thank you very much, Kerm. I see that Kerm has pots and pans in his background. And it looks like to me, Sitting on his rack right there is one of those gold pots that you buy from QVC that they tell you to put a brownie in and then for some reason scrape the brownie off because the pot won't stick. I don't know why you bought that during the pandemic, Kern, but you need to kind of fix your life. Okay.

I don't even want to reply. Don't want to reply. It's time for the Midnight Manifest. Charles, what you got? All right, the Midnight Manifest for the Book of Bobaithet episode two. This is the Tribes of Tatooine, directed by Staff Curry. who has directed on shows like The Watchman, Luke Cage, preacher, written by John Favreau. For this episode, Boba and Fennick, and interrogate their captured order of the Nightwind

Assassin back at their base when he refuses to reveal who hired him. They dump the assassin into the empty Rancorp pit and trick him into giving up the mayor. Bobin Fentick visit the mayor who warns Boba that being a crime boss is harder than being a bounty hunter. But the mayor also denies hiring the assassins and tells Boba to visit the same. sanctuary if he wants to learn more. At the sanctuary, Boba and Fenwick find out that the job of the hut's cousins,

the twins, had the delayed claim to his territory. After a pissing match between the twins and Boba, the two parties dispersed, but Fenwick warns that they will need permission to kill the huts. We flashback to Boba's time with the Tuscan Raiders, where he's learning their

customs and fighting styles. Boba helps the tribe track down a train being ran by the syndicate that kills their people and the bouncy hunter finds out that that is transporting the drug spice. Boba negotiates with the drug smugglers that they now have to pay a toll to the Raiders to pass through the desert.

After his success, Boba is awarded a Tuscan Raider outfit and psychedelic lizard that goes up his nose into his brain and leads him on a quest where he goes to a dying tree to obtain a branch to build the Tuscan Raiders infamous weapon, the golfie staff, for himself.

Finally, Boba and the Raiders doing an ancestral dance a round of fire to celebrate the new member of their tribe. And on this porous platter, if you're wondering, the Black Wookie, you're like, what's his Black Wookie doing here? He actually premiered the 2015

Star Wars No. 15 by Jason Aaron and Michael Hugh. His name is Black Cranston. And the couple, I did not realize this. Shout out to the Week in Inverse. I was doing some research. I did not realize that the couple in Tosie Station who are getting beat up by

the Biker gang are Kami and Fixer. They come from an infamous deleted scene from the original Star Wars where Luke goes to Toshi Station to meet his friends, but it was left on the cutting room floor. So those are actually friends of Luke Skywalker who were chilling in Tosius Station. I thought that was fucking fantastic. It was amazing. Oh, there's Pals!

Yeah. Have you ever seen that deleted scene? It's on YouTube. I've never seen it before. That's good. Yeah. Good. And that's my Midnight Bannercast.

Oh, Chuck Wagon. What a good job. Damn it. Did I manifest? I love it. Okay. So let's get into it. Let's go and get into it because there are two major parts, two major things.

I just got to say, you guys. I'm in love. I'm in television love. I can tell. I can tell. You came on here like smiling like a little baby. Van literally hopped on the Zoom. He was skipping.

He was humming. I'm in television love. I'm in a relationship with the show, the Book of Boba, How does Kalika feel about it? The truth to it. She understands, you know? She understands that for just this season, that we might have to have a more non-traditional relationship, just for this season.

A poly year, you're in a polyamorous relationship with Boba. It might have to be on our D. Ray Davis shit. You know what I mean? Our Lou Williams shit. Yeah. Just for this season, just for this season of television. Two wives. Two girls like him Lou Will.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not even sure that Boba Fett is a girl. You know what I mean? Things might be changing here at 41. Who knows? Well, what's going on? It might be getting real freaky, you know? All right, okay.

We don't need all this. But no, but what I'm saying is that I am in love with this show. I thought this was a really perfect episode of television. I got to be honest with you. And at first, I was annoyed. At first, I was annoyed with the show because what was happening back in Tatooey was so, excuse me, what was happening back, it's all on Tatooey, but what was happening in the city

What's the name of the city again? Mos Eckley What's the name of the city again? Most Espa, okay. Because what was, thank you, Arjuna. Because what was happening back in most Espo was really compelling, like really good mystery type shit.

And at first I was like, yo, man, I'm not ready to go back and deal with the Tuscan Raiders anymore, but fucking boy, was I wrong. Boy was I wrong. Oh, wait, so that actually, that was probably the point where the episode, when that happened, I was a little pissed

because everything that was happening in that first 15 or 20 minutes I was just like all right cool we got we got the Black Wookie we got the Huts got everything Oh the Black Wookie yeah like come on like shout out

Dr. Umar Johnson saw that he's in heaven I thought that that was like so fired the Tuscan Raider stuff was cool but man I was just I don't want to have to wait another week to get back to like the huts

and the black wookie I thought that shit was fired Well, you do have to wait another week, so just shut your nasty mouth. Okay. Let's start with the present. I can understand people feeling that way. I'm going to be honest with you. Because at first I did feel that way, too, but I thought the stuff with the Tuscan Raiders was really well done.

Oh, no, I don't think. Here's the thing. I thought the Tuscan Raider stuff was slow in the beginning. But by the end, you're like, when he's making the goffy staff and he's getting high off the lizard, you're like, all right, cool. I'm tapped in. But yeah, let's go back to the present. And start from the top. So Bobo and Finnic put the Order of the Nightwin assassin,

you know, the two guys that try to kill, well, it's more than two. They ended up catching two and killing one and bringing them back into the rank court pit. Even though there's no rancourt pit, what would your strategy be versus a rancor, Chuck? You know how they say sometimes if you, like, see a bear?

Either you got to do two things. Either you just got to be really, really, really still. Or you've got to just punch it in the map. Wait, do you punch a bear? the mouth or do you punch a shark in the mouth? You punch a bear in the mouth. Yeah, see, I would be fucked up. The rancor would have killed me already.

Yeah. So what do you think a rancor would need? Do you think you just have to stay really still, sleep, get in the fetal position, or you think you got to strike first, like, punch it in the nose? See, here's the thing with me is I'm a man of faith. And if that's not a spot where Jesus is going to help me, then really, you know, J.C., what you got for me?

Because if I'm standing right there in front of the rancor, the bear, I'm going to look at the bear and I'm going to be like, hey, get bear, guess what? Jesus said, I'm covered in the blood and it's not going to happen to me. Because really, there's nothing you can do. Soccer bear in his mouth if you want, Charles. Okay? Charles, sock a bear in the mouth if you want. Punch a bear in this shit.

Acting like the bear. Go ahead. Go try that. Try that to a bear or a rank card. By the way, I want you to do an old man VHS vault, which people say it should be a segment on here, which I think would be a great thing to do. You ever seen a movie called The Edge? Have you seen this movie?

No. Jome and I have not seen this movie. Jomey, Lil Spidey. Like, you guys haven't seen this movie. Let me tell you some about this movie. Real quick. We'll get back to Boba Fett. The Edge.

Alec Baldwin, Harold Peronoo, Anthony Hopkins. Playing crashes. Somewhere in Alaska, in Upper Canada, somewhere where bears roam free and do that thing, whatever. Playing crashes.

It is, Alec Baldwin, fucking Harold Peron and Anthony Hopkins against the bear who is trying to come and kill them. It is the craziest fun. I invite everybody over to my house

that's here in LA, Saturday night. If you're vaccinated, boosted to watch the edge. It is the best fun you can have. Anyway. So I'm not sure what I would do against the rank or I'll probably pray. I'm not going to have very much bravery though. I'm going to be trying to get to nukes and crannies

of the little room and stuff. We meet the mysterious finally. mayor Mok Shai's Shaz early in the episode and he's Ethereum claims he's an

Ethereum and claims that he has nothing to do with the hit on Boba Fett because obviously a lot of people are thinking hey Boba Fett was hit him and the mayor got off to sort of an icy start it was probably the mayor. He redirects him to Garza Fripp's sanctuary

which by the way we didn't even talk about you guys I know I'm butchering some of these words and names, it's okay, I'll be better. Here's the thing, black people don't pronounce anything correctly. Like, it's racist if you pointed out. It kind of is. And by the way, just to let you know,

and just to let you know, because on higher learning, which is you guys should be watching and listening to here on the Ringer Network, I was talking about CTE, and I spent a whole day trying to pronounce chronic, traumatic, encephalopathy. and I can't do it. Like, in setth, encephalopathy. Encephalopathy is the word. I can't, I can't, it's just too hard.

Wait, wait, I have to ask you really, really quick, because this connects. What do you call the thing that changes the channels on the TV? Jomi, you need to jump into. Remote control. That's what I call it. Yeah, the remote. Yeah. That's what I call. Remote control.

I've had white people tell me it's the clicker. Whatever. Well, last one, last one. call the thing that keeps your food cold in the kitchen? The fridge. The refrigerator. The what? The refrigerator. The refrigerator. The refrigerator, not the icebox.

Oh, no. My dad used to call it West in Peace. My dad called it the ice box. Yeah, I was raised by my grandparents. They called it the icebox, and I was told that's an old black thing. It was the ice, because there used to be actually a block of ice. Yeah, like actual ice. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Anyway, so he redirects, the mayor redirects him to guards of food. Santhorah, did you want the mayor's character

to be something more here? The mayor seemed like it, to me, there was enough sinister stuff there, some sinister undertones there of the mayor, for me to really feel like the mayor was a very intriguing character. But it seems like there are some people that were maybe a little bit disappointed with the mayor.

They wanted the mayor to be more of a thing. What about you, Chuck? I mean, by the time the hut twins come around, it's just like mayor who? If we're going to be real. Once the huts are on screen, you see, you see BK, you see the black wookie, you like, all right, like, we're going. We're here. The mayor, I still think probably has something going on in this, but he's probably like, what was the mayor's name in the wire?

Marc Carsetti. Well, there's Carcetti, but then there was, there was. No, the white, the white one who was. Carcetti, yeah, Carcetti. Yeah, Carcetti. Like, that's acting like you want more Carcetti in the wire. Like, you get, we got just enough. Like, we don't need it.

Oh, Carcetti was good. boy. I like Carcetti. He's not a top five character. Excess on Alada. He's not a top five character, but he's a He's a condiment. I get it.

I get it. Royce, I think, was more of a condiment than Carcetti was. Carcetti had a big, big part in the wire. But yeah, so I thought we got just enough of the mayor. I still, I don't believe the mayor. I think the mayor was just shy-sty enough

for me to be like, yeah, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on. And there are huts who, probably sit those assassins after Boba Fett and Finnic, but I still, the mayor's hands aren't clean, he's still popping shit.

He's still sitting up there being vaguely threatening, not quite giving in to Boba Fett, which we know now, while people might not be quite giving in to Boba Fett because there's another claim to the criminal throne there. But yeah, I still think there's a little meat there for the mayor

For the mayor to be a little bit conniving and backbiting and stuff like that Oh, so Garza Fipp, we didn't talk about on the fact Last episode, so the first episode I see Garst Fipp I'm like, yeah, she's attractive I like her Yeah, I'm feeling some things, I'm feeling some things That's Jennifer Beals Yeah

That's why Yeah That goes back, I didn't even realize that That goes back decades and decades and decades for me That's Jennifer Beals Was that one of the ones? Was that one of the actresses your mom was like, I'm worried about it. Well, it wasn't that she was worded.

It was that, you know, the song would come on. She's a maniac. And, you know, and then I would want to watch flash dance like all the time. It's like Jennifer Bills, Jennifer Bills. And then Jennifer Bills came back and devil in a blue dress. And I was a little older than. And then I was like, yo, man, I want me of Jennifer Bills. I never know.

That's a sister, too, man. Jennifer Bills, Black Lady. But you didn't know that. Okay, so we're introduced to the twins Jabba the Hudson's F fraternal twins Faternal twins big on Tatooey You know

Luke Leah Even though they're not both on Tattooy Fraternal twins big in the Star Wars universe I wonder if regular twins Feel a certain way about that You know As a twin With a brother who looks exactly like me

I feel nothing I feel fine Oh so you're the You're the authority I could ask about this Yeah, I feel nothing about this. You want to know I feel nothing about this. Twins, at least, the twins of the Star Wars universe, creepy as fuck. All right.

Luke was kissing up on Leo or Leo was kissing up on Luke. And the twins seemed to have some weird lancer vibes going on, the brother. How can you say this? He was rubbing his sister on the thing. Like, they were very, very close. You didn't see that? They were close, but I didn't see any rubbing going on. Like, Charles, you got the first.

I feel like I saw some, like, some, like, hand. Holdings. It was brief. I saw it too, though. It was brief. Word. Lil Spitey coming in. Woo.

Me. Yo, I'm Doc Strange and my little Spite. Thank you. First of all, Lil Spite, he's so young that a man being in the same room as a woman. And he's like, what are we doing here?

Yo, no. No. Put your respect on those Spitey's now. Like, what a... We're not doing this. We're not doing this. We're going to nip that in the button now.

He's like, what? I can't cinemax. It's here. It's 11.30 p.m. Did mom and dad go to sleep yet? Jesus Christ. I'm about to cut your mic.

I want to, hey, mom and dad. You're such a fucking bully, bro. Go to sleep. So I can watch this movie called unbridled desires. Jonathan be doing this thing out here, you guys. Jonathan was just, I'm just joking with Jonathan. Jonathan was just overseas looking like a pimp. Pitches of a waterfall.

Were you in Africa, Jonathan? I saw you. I saw you doing your thing, bro. I'm like, look at Jonathan out there. All right. Do the huts, is their involvement going to be the present-day, like, antagonist, you feel like? You feel like we thought it was going to be the mayor, but are we pretty sure now that it's going to be the huts? It's going to be the huts because, you know, there's obviously some static between them.

They didn't get it popping right there on the streets. but that's it that bloodshed is bad for business so there's obviously going to be some sort of some sort of struggle

between them and Boba Fett going forward. You feel like that's our main batty right here. I think it's going to be a mix.

I think they're definitely going to probably be very, very high on that list. And the thing that I'm most interested in

is we were kind of getting some like Sopranos, you know, Tony going to New York vibes where essentially

Fennick is like to Boba if you want to kill them you're going to need to get permission. So there is this whole

world of the huts and we knew how powerful job it was and that's honestly what i want to see i hope we're not going to stay on tattooing the whole time i would love to see like the criminal structure of the huts because we know that there's way more crime bosses out there and the twins feel some type of way that they can be talking reckless like this that they're backed up by something bigger and that's what i'm really really interested in i'm interested in seeing what the huds do because i'm interested in seeing I always like it when there's sort of a family dynamic to a claim, right? The Huts feel like they should be in there because, you know, they're the cousins. It's also good to see the HUD's back.

That kind of reminds you of the old guard there. And also, it's interesting to see how the people will react to this because one of the struggles is going to be, you know, who do they give their tribute to? Who do they fear? And Boba Fett is an unknown quantity to them right now. It's an unknown entity to them. Like they understand that Boba Fett's a badass, but the mere sight of some of the huts may make them feel like, you know what, these are the badasses that we recognize

as having run this city for a long time. And so because we recognize that, that means that we're more inclined to fear them. Also, very important, they came in on a litter. Boba Fett is not coming in on letters, right? So when he comes into all of these places, He doesn't want to be carried, but he's also coming in unannounced, and a lot of the gravitas that, you know, a crime lord or crime boss would have.

He doesn't bring it with them. They're bringing all of that same stuff and stirring up all those same emotions in people. So whose style is going to work more in terms of what happens in the present day? How is that going to work out? And that's something I'm always fascinated with when there's a power struggle in anything, whether it's Game of Thrones or there's Star Wars, whatever. who do the people fear, who do the people respect? Once again, remember in the first episode?

Boba said he intends to rule with respect and not fear, which is going to win, fear or respect. That's another thing that's going back and forth between him and the huts. Is his version of respecting the people going to win? Is their version of fear-based rule going to win? So all of these things are good, you know, in terms of setting the bad, but it's the big bad. I think it's very interesting. I mean, let's be honest, too, at this point.

Bob was looking a little weak. All right. He's running. He's running a fucking small business. He only got four or five people working for him. He can't even get insurance for these people. You know what I'm saying? He don't got the guns right now.

I'm a little bit worried about him. He's not, he's running a mom and pop shop and a world of Amazon's and Walmarts. You know, the huts are Amazon and Walmarts. If we're going to be real, Jabba was damn near a baseless. Yeah.

What the fuck is this mom and pop shop going to do? I also have another question to ask you. Give me up. Now that we have this new black wookie character in live action, do you think there's colorism with the wookies? Do you think he's just like fuck this straight-looking motherfucker like, do you think he's just like, why am I the evil guy just because I'm a darker complexion?

I'm going to be honest with you. That's the cool and looking wookie wookie I've ever seen before. Speak on it. Speak on it. You looked amazing. I rewound that like three or four times. He came out there like, I'm like, yo, I might have laid my gun down and been like, yo, Wookie Tupac, you got it. Like you like, you got it.

He came out there. Did you say a Wookie Tupac? Wookie Tupac. He's Tupac Wookie. That's who he is. Wookie Pock. Wukuk. Like, you know, because he came around.

Wookie. Wookie. Wookie. He came around the thing. Like he came around when he came around the litter, first of all, he came around the of like, I'm a kid to fuck shit up. And number one, there's two reasons they looked at him like that. I think one reason they looked at him, Bob and him

looked at him like that. Not that they were scared, but they were like, damn, one is he's a wookie, and we know how powerful wookies are, right? Yeah. And if it had gone down there, I don't think they're fucking with him. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know, like, I don't think, I don't think they fucking with him, number one.

Number two, he's black. And so they're looking at him, they look at him, like, you know how it goes? Like, we all been walking down the street. Right now, the curly Christmas bears are here, we're all black. We all been walking down the street and seeing people look at us like, oh, God. So that's the kind of look they gave to him right there, you know? But I was really interested.

Number one, you know what? Only thing that I looked at him is like no crossbow. So the crossbow is a strictly chewy thing. That's not a wookie deal. So the crossbow is, that's strictly chewy where to be this. That's not like a wookie weapon of choice if I'm to understand this. Am I right about this? Who knows anything?

about this. Crossbow is Chui's weapon of choice. Now, it's not a wookie tradition to have a crossbow. Okay, you guys are looking it up. You don't fucking know. Um, now. No, I'm looking it up. It's saying the bowcaster is, is a, is a is a wookie weapon.

So the bowcaster is a wookie weapon, which makes it interesting that he doesn't have one. Because I thought that as soon as I saw him, I'm like, if I remember correctly, he did not have a bowcaster. He had a rifle. But it was not a bocatch who made it interesting to me that he didn't have one. He's also a gladiator as well. Gladiator. So maybe he's away from the wookie way.

What? And his name is literally Black. Chris. Cranston. That's what I'm pronouncing it. Do not get mad at me. His name is what? Black Cranston.

Black Cranston? Yeah. He's from the comics. Okay. I've never read about Black Cranston before. Hold on for a second. Hold on for a second. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

So, sorry that I haven't, I haven't read this comic book and I'm not, first of all, I haven't read the comic books. I've read some of the comic books, but I haven't read any comic books that this wookie appears in. I'm sorry. That's the one, number one. So he's a darker wookie and they name him Black Cranston. Oh, he's, it's black, K-R-S-A-N-T-N. So it's either Cranston or C-R-R-S-A-N. So it's either C-R-S-N-S-E-N-S-E. Black Cranton, which is both both sound like weird as names. All right.

What do you? I didn't name the wookie. I'm not. I did not name the wookie. I have no issue with it. I'm not going to make a big deal of that. I'm calling them Wookpock. That's what I'm like,

I'm calling them Wupak. You know what I mean? Black Cranches a little on the nose for me, guys. Okay? He's nicknamed Santee, B.K. Or, and this is, this is a great one. Black K. All right, here's my thing, then.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's fine. It's fine. We've been talking about our social issues. Black Panther, black lightning. That's true. Let's be real. Let's be real.

If we really want to keep it all the way gangster, those come from a time that maybe they shouldn't have been named that as well. But it's okay. It's okay. Let's not, see, this is what we do. Let's not muddy it up. Let's not muddy it up. It's Star Wars, baby.

They're just talking about the color of the wookie. man, that's it. That's it. I love this show. From 2015? Yeah. That was a pause. That was a pause. That was a pause, man. Come on. Yeah, but yeah, I wasn't aware of Blackcranston, but I love, I love Wookpock. Are you a little sad before we move on to things that were happening in the past,

which to me was the meat of the show and just a fantastic breathtaking part of the show. I've got to be honest with you. Are you a little surprised or a little disappointed that we did not get to be a lot get to see Willpock in action. Yeah. Yeah. I think we will, though. Oh, we will. He's going to be kicking some ass. And I will be like, let's be real. If he doesn't win at least a couple fights, you know, I'm going to have to call up Disney and we're going to have to get some affirmative action, okay? He needs to get some ass.

He looks, he looks bulky. He looks like he can grow down. Yeah, he's not. He's got to do it. Look, bulky, look also in shape and looked mean as fuck. Who do you think would win the fight? Wuk-Pok or Chewy? Chooey's no one's fucking with Chewy. Chewis, no one's fucking with Chewy. I would like to see it. I would like to see it too. Nah, it's not happening. I don't like to see it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This BK. BK is a gladiator. I look at Chewy more as a marksman, you know, as a sniper.

First of all, there's no way to really look at Chewy. Chewy can do myriad things. Chui can fix the ship. Chui is a sniper. We're not going to see what we're not going to do is... I'm not disrespect to Chui. I'm just asking a question. This is a podcast.

I'm asking, we've seen... We've seen Wook Pock, and I don't know I haven't read the comics. So maybe he does amazing things in the comics. I'll go back and bone up on that before the next one. I'll promise you guys. I got comicsology. I'll get mad at me. I sit on the goddamn hammock all day and read.

invincible. And she's like, what are you doing? Here's the thing. You know what I know? She's like, what are you doing? So I'll find the comics. I'll read the comics. I'll bone up on this character.

But from one appearance in live action, which I'm not sure he's been in live action before. I'm pretty sure this is his first appearance, live action. I can't put him ahead of in any way of chewy. I'm just asking questions. All I know from what I know of Wukpock is that he wouldn't let those white people not give him a medal.

Like he's not shunning up. He's not tap dancing. Can't be honest before we move on? How do we know that you? Chui wanted that medal. Oh, don't do that. Don't do that. He shouldn't have to ask.

He shouldn't have to want her ask. You should just get it. Let's be real. How do we know that Chui wanted that medal? By the way, that's a sad scene. And that's a sad scene that they did him like that. But how do we know? I personally don't know if Chui wanted to be involved in all of this.

Han dragging him along, making him do all of this stuff, fix the ship. Chui was in it for the money. You know what I mean? So I don't even know if, I don't even know. They're blood brothers. They're blood brothers. I don't even know if Chui wanted that.

I don't even know if that's what Chui was into, but whatever. But here's the thing, and I would just say to this, you shouldn't have to ask for it. When you're in the line of duty and you save the galaxy, it's not about if you want it or not, people just give it to you because you've earned it. Right. Yeah, sure, true. This episode is brought to you by Boris Head.

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fighting alongside the Tuscan Raiders. Look, he learns their fighting style. He gets his own staff. He acquires trains, and behind you speeder bikes and takes down the pike syndicate route. Are the flashbacks connecting to the present storyline enough

or Charles, someone who has not been as big of a fan of the flashbacks as I've been, are there a little too much right now? How do you feel? I know that they're going to be important and I do think that they're entertaining. It's just that, to me, at least story-wise, they've just been jarring.

The cuts at least, because we have not not seen enough of present day. Boba Fett, 75% of the episode being the flashback, it's not that I didn't enjoy the flashback. It was just that I'm so interested in like, where is Boba after the Mandalorian? When we cut back to it, I'm like, damn,

I got in wait another week to figure this out. And I think it stalls the momentum of the show just a tad. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that, like, I think that they need to balance the present day story with the flashbacks a little bit. bit better. But once we get to like, once the story of the Tuscan Raiders gets going this episode, I'm like, oh, I get this. This is entertaining. When he's, when he's teaching them how to ride the

hover bikes, one of the funniest scenes in any Star Wars movie TV show ever, like just hilarious. I really did enjoy it. It's just like, you have to admit, man, the cut was a little jar. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we were, we were what the last thing with Black Wooki. Absolutely. We're right there with Wook Park. I wanted to see him get down. the huts are there I was like damn now they're going to go back and I did not think it was going to work let me tell you why I think it's important and why I think it works

so well okay so we all know Star Wars right yeah we all know Star Wars we've been watching Star Wars since we were kids we're aware of the parts of Star Wars that we're aware of you know we read we've read Star Wars books we've bought Star Wars toys we've been invested into Star Wars of course there is

the character sometimes that slips through our fingers like obviously black cransson did or whomever but we all know star wars okay so especially a character like boba fett who who's uh a legendary character in terms of star wars okay so we know the real important thing about this show or the real the crux of these shows the um the what i would say the biggest task of these shows is not invention but reinvention and i think that's the whole thing Star Wars, right? So we're watching a lot of stuff and we want more of the characters that we know of

because when they try to invent new characters away from the lore, it's hit or miss a lot of times. Sometimes they're cool. Sometimes people have no problem with them. I enjoyed the emotional outburst of Kylo Wren. I really thought it was the best part of Force Awakens. I'd never seen

like a dark Jedi, a Sith, whatever you want to call them, be that emotional. It's just like, fucks it up to the point to where Stormtrooper was walking around a corner know that he's in one of his moods. I thought that was hilarious.

Oh, so funny. But a lot of people had issues with that portrayal of Colin Lorraine. So whenever Star Wars invents something new or invents a character that's new, you're always going to split the fan base. The safest bet is for them to reinvent things we already think we know

and give us more and go deeper. That's what this show is all about. This show is about BobaFet going deeper, into Boba Feta. We've seen a lot of Boba Fett. There's been a lot of Boba Fett, stuff out there, of course, before a lot of, especially the casual audience, going deeper into Boba Fett and giving us more than what we've gotten in the past. And in doing that, he can't be the only character they do it with. And I think taking the Tuscan Raiders,

who have always been like parasites, not just, not enemies, but like parasites, like parasites, like leeches, like absolutely like termites in the Star Wars world, right? Like, Anakin took a lightsaber and went and killed a bunch of them, right? And so taking them and giving them heart and hope and problems and challenges and seeing somebody connect with them is, I feel very connected to that story. It's a very human thing that they're doing and they're executing it perfectly. Now, there is a trope that they're using. hey the outsider with a new way comes in and like you know sort of gives these

sort of primitive people a new lease on life that's a trope that's been out there it's a sort of annoying trope but in this particular situation him learning from them and them learning from him I don't know if it's the point of my life that I'm at but I am really digging at it I'm also thinking that the reinvention

that Star Wars has to do to make itself relevant to people who've already loved it and to new fans it's possible. They've sputtered on this before. They've sputtered on this before. Solo was them sputtering on doing this, you know? But to me, and in many ways,

the Rise of Skywalker was them sputtering in doing this, although I'll tell you one thing. I think I like the Rise of Skywalker more than most people do, but whatever. Wait, so can I, I'm going to push back just because I've been seeing a lot of, I wouldn't even call it backlash, but I've been seeing a lot of people on social media or other review sites, whatever.

Some people love Bobaith, but I've seen a lot of lukewarm reviews. And it made me think about this quote that was in this great Zach Barron piece about Wheel of Time, where essentially one of the creators of the show was like, to do a Game of Thrones level show. Like Wheel of Time,

you can't give people Game of Thrones season one. You have to give them the last couple seasons with the dragons and the fights and everything. that's what as an audience we want. We want that level scale of storytelling. And I think one thing that Boba Fett is having trouble with is that, and it's even happening with me when I'm watching it,

and I'm still enjoying it. But I'm like, you need to give us something that's at the level of the Mandalorian season two. Because that's the last time we saw Mando. And I get, like, I get that's unfair, but that's just the expectations of an audience because this is, it's a similar show. You're telling two shows about Mandalorians,

and there's still that itching the back of my mind where I'm like, I get the slowness, I get the emotion, I get the building, but I'm still like, we already know where the bar is set. I disagree if there was anything slow about this episode. I think that this episode, if you take episode one, episode two,

just in where the story's progress, we haven't gotten that far. And I do think that some people who are lukewarm on it will be like, all right, where are we going? Because we're still... Well, I think we have gotten far. I think he started off episode one as a prisoner and a slave of the Tuscan Raiders

and at the end of episode two, he's one of them. I think that's like... I think that's very far. As far as what we know about slavery, I think that's very far. But here's the thing. You went straight to the Tuscan Raiders flashbacks. But the thrust of this story, at least, is the present day.

I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. I think we expected the thrust of the story to be the present day. And by the way, I think at some point, the thrust of the story might have to be the present day. Because I don't know how much longer we're going to go back to the. Tuscan Raiders. But I think right now, as far as I'm concerned, I started off more interested in what was going on in the present day. But now I'm just as invested, if not more invested,

in what's going on out in the deserts of tattooing with the Tuscan Raiders. Jomi, you look like you want to jump in. I think the past will have like serious ramifications. on the present in terms of the story. Like something, like, I don't want to, you know, speculate. But something's going to happen to the Tuscan Raiders. That's going to inform what Boba does in the present. So we need to spend this time with them. I think they're front-loading the time we spend with the Tuscan Raiders

because of the back end, it's going to be a lot of present. But whatever Boba is doing, whatever he's thinking, is informed by the time we spend with him and the Tuscan Raiders right now. That's why I'm with Van. I think, like, it was great. I love seeing him, you know, become a member. Like have him, he goes, he does the whole trip thing. He goes to the, you know, goes to the tree, picks the branch and he, you know, makes his own staff.

Like, that is him, like, becoming one of them. And eventually, you know, through whatever way, like whatever happens with them in the past, that's going to pay off, I think, a lot in future episodes. Oh, I don't, I don't disagree with you guys that I think all of the stuff. that's happening with the Tuscan Raiders is going to happen again. But I feel like we've been doing this show long enough where we know with these Disney Plus shows, what we're 25% of the way through with BobaFed already, there's still so much more story to tell. And I'm just wondering where I'm like, oh, like, are we going to have another Hawkeye or a Falcon of Winter Soldier or a Wanda Vision thing where it's like the first few episodes, you're just vibe and you're telling this story.

And by the end, you're like, oh, shit. They got to get a bunch of story into the last two episodes. That's my only worry there. And I can see why some people might be a little bit critical about the pacing of the show. Still thought it was a pretty solid episode. Of course. Pretty solid.

It was fucking amazing. Whatever. Get off. Now, similar to the mayor, the speeder bike gang. Did you want more out of the speeder bike game? The speeder bike game was he just came through and fucking flushed him. You know, like they were so mad. See, and that's a, that's one of the things.

Now, by the way, there are times in this episode, could quarterflip, but I'm going to explain something. I'm going to put, I'm going to put a bow around quarter flipping right now. I'm going to, not bow around it. I'm going to explain a section in this story that actually is anti-quarter flip. All right, but the speeder bite game, he just comes in and fucks them up. Like, fucks them up and steals their speeders. Like, was, is there anyone here who was looking for more out of the speeder bite game?

Because we thought that they were going to be a big deal when we saw them, basically tagging somebody's hut. Nice to know, by the way, that all of the same toxic shit that goes on on Earth, they have it on tattooing. So people gang bang and they tag people's shit,

which is something I wouldn't think, you know, would exist galaxies and galaxies and galaxies away, that like someone even had spray paint to tag people's shit up, but nice to see that they're doing it too, that they can't even have a nice billboard on tattooing either.

But what did you think about them? Did you think there was going to be more to the speeder bike game? No, I love the fact that we're in and out. If there's anything that's true to the spirit of Star Wars, it's that guys, the stormtroopers are going to miss. All right? When our hero comes to fuck some people up, he's going to dispatch with them within two or three minutes

and then we're going to get to the real villains. I will say, though, if they did a little bit more Sons of Anarchy vibe, underrated show, I wouldn't have minded a little bit. That's also the thing, talking about, shit that's been taken from Earth. Biker, biker leather, biker jackets.

They still wear that in Galaxy Barbar. Especially like on desert planet, but I guess the Tussing Arayers are wearing a lot of layers too, but they have to protect themselves from the sun. But no, they made their own biker stuff because I always wonder, you know, because one time I'm jogging in downtown L.A., right?

This is actually during the pandemic. I'm jogging in downtown L.A. and I jog past the Mongols and they have literally there must have been like 300 guys out there. I jog past them and I'm jogging right down and I'm like, well, we're going to find out if this is a bad situation

because if I'm in a bad situation, like if I feel like I'm in, I always make eye contact with one person and give them a head nod. If they don't head nod back, you pick up the pace on your job. You know, if you get a head nod back, you probably are all right.

but if you don't get no head knob back you're like man look let me get let me get down so I looked and they gave me a head nod back to Mongols like you know whatever it's cool whatever but I wonder like when you want to get a biker jacket made is there like a biker jacket outlet place that they all go to kind of like the gladiator from

from Daredevil where everybody goes to in order to like get a suit made and if there is hide that guy gets a tattoo hide that profession make it to tattoo. You know. But here's the thing.

They're bifers. And they got the jackets made. That's it. I'm sure they got a group rate somewhere. They got a group rate somewhere. Yeah. You know, got a nice,

hefty discount. Do you think there's a meek mill on Tatooine who's just like popping wheelies on the little hover bikes? Just causing mayhem in Philly? Well, I want to know, is there, is there hip hop? Is there hip hop?

There's only jazz. Like, there's jazz. I've never seen, I have yet to see anybody really rapid. We got some. rock bands in Star Wars Visions. In Star Wars Visions. We got some rock bands and Star Wars Visions. I haven't seen anybody rapping. So all the bikership made it, but there's no hip-hop in Star Wars. Cool. Got it.

So look. Here's the deal. I want to talk about a sequence that Charles talked about in this episode, which is Boba Fett, teach you the Tuscan Raiders, how to rob the speeder. The speeder scene where they, I'm so connected and so advancing into the Tuscan Raiders

right now, I was physically sad when the speeder scene, when the speeder came through and shout up all my boys for no reason. It hurt. When they started dropping dead,

I was just like, how, what is happening? Yeah, fuck that speeder on God. You know what I mean? So when the speed like, when the speeder came through and started shooting them up,

I was actually pissed about it. So when we were talking about quarter flipping. The sequence with him teaching them how to ride the speeders is anti-quarter-flipped. And let me tell you how. We don't know how long that took. You can look and say, hey, that was a day. Was that a day?

Was that a week? Was that a month? How long was that, right? Of him teaching them how to do that. of them actually showing that they failed at it, that they failed at it, and they got it.

That's all I was saying. A little sequence like that just shows that they didn't really know how to do it. It establishes so much characterization. It tells them the, number one, it tells you the difference between Dem and BobaFed. Number one,

BobaFet is familiar with tactics and technology and stuff. They are not. He was just on their turf where he didn't understand their ways. now there's someplace, but they don't understand his ways. It tetheres those characters together, and it also shows that those characters,

even though they can fight and do all kinds of crazy stuff, and they could beat up Boba Fett using those staffs and stuff, that there was still stuff that they had to learn from somebody who is as skilled as what he is. And that's the kind of stuff that I was talking about. And not revisiting that, but I'm just saying, scenes like that to me do a lot to take your narrative a little further. They don't always have to happen, guys,

I'm not going backwards. They don't always have to happen. But even a montage like that is kind of what I was, is what I. All right, Jonathan. I'm going to need you to hit. Stop the cap. And you know I want to stop the cap. Stop the cap.

Stop. All right. Jomey, can you, if you would, Jomey, explain her. Can you please explain the three things that we put on the Midnight Boys official band list? Mutants. Mephisto. quarter flipping.

All right. So, no, no, let me finish. I let you finish. Van Bayless, fucking at this point, Kate Bishop is your LeBron. Okay?

You're like, this is my anti-quarter flip. This is my anti-quarter flip. I didn't mention Kay Bishop once. Oh, but we know what, we know who you were. I like Kay Bisham. Then I give you your time.

We put quarter flipping on the fucking band list for a reason. And you come in here with that bullshit being like, This is how you do a montage right. We don't know whether it was a month. We don't know what, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, dog, we put it on the band list for a reason. Can, number one, number one, we banned it,

but I still see him talking about it on the Facebook. So whatever. Number two, I'll tell you this. I wasn't talking about specifically quarter flipping. I was talking about a montage that explained my angst. But I get, I understand. You said anti, you said this is my anti-quarter flipping. You just can't put anti in front of it.

No, no. It's different. Show me, is Van bullshitting a little bit? He's bullshit. You know what? I have nothing to say. I was, I was proven right between, I was proven right between me, God, and everyone. No one thinks that. If you think, if you think that anti-quarter flipping is the same as quarter-flipping, I would say, I would ask you this question. Don't. Is lethal weapon two the same movie as lethal weapon one? Yeah, they both have lethal weapon, but they're both have lethal weapon.

too makes a difference. So if you put a new word... No, no, no. All right, so, Jomey, can you open up, can you open up the, I don't know what you will call it, the library,

the Congress of the Midnight Boys, I would now like to put anti-quarter flipping under quarterflipping. Or make a little subhead, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be under it. Yeah, yeah, of course.

It's fine. Three, three vending. Anti-quarter flipping. All right, a couple more questions about what's going on here the president, we'll move on to some quick nerd news with a DC edition. Now, they robbed the train. Exilarating sequence.

Exilarating sequence. We got two legitimately awesome sequences in this episode. Number one, him teaching the Tuscan Raiders how to coordinate the train robbery, the speeder robbery on the speeders. number two, the actual robbery itself was amazing. We haven't even talked about his freaky, trippy trip to the desert after that, which was another brilliant sequence to me. Love this episode.

Love you. Wanna hug you. But I have questions here. Number one, the whole spice route, you know, I ripped it straight from Dune. It's like, it was like, Dude came out first, guys. I'm sorry, like they, I mean, we know it. But to be fair, my man George Lucas paid homage.

Like he called the Dune C. Like, he's been very, very clear that with the Spice and all that shit, the Tuscan Raiders, he's been very clear that he was. I'm going to be real with you, though. Salome going to start talking shit. As is going to watch. Watch it be a little. Salome going to start talking shit.

Salome is state his claim now in Dune land. He's the big swinging Shalomey of Dune. he's the spice boy. He's a spice boy. Oh. Whoa. Timothy Shalameh is a spice boy. Whoa.

How did I not think of this before on the Doom podcast? He's a spice boy. If you want to be my lover, you gotta get with Freeman. Take you left forever. Freeman never in. He's a spice boy. Oh, wow.

Interesting. Now, would you have spent on a pie? after they've killed all of your pals shooting them up, fucking them up, you rob the thing. Bobafet's now the man there. It seems like, would you have spared those pikes or would you have killed them and sent a message to the syndicate that you can't be all willy-nilly on the dune sea of Tatouy?

No, no, no, no, no. You can't do that. This is like a Marlowe type thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's not thinking about just pure pet. Like, he's like, these my corners. I don't know what you was watching, but Marlowe was killing buff.

I mean, he was. But he was set. She's... But he was like... I think you meant stringer. Marlowe don't give off. No, no, no. Fuck.

Did he start killing people? But he was like, these are my corners. And everybody was trying to fuck with him. People have been gone. He's like, nah, like shit's changed now. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Like, Boba doesn't have to kill anybody yet because he's like, these are my corners now. Y'all are going to have to pay tolls. If you want to bring the drugs through here, y'all going to have to pay me. My boys will protect you. And you remember in that season,

all the little drug dealers like start coming to Marlowe to get the product. Here's my thing. Why would he kill them? If he's, his whole thing is like, I'm working with the syndicate now. If you want to sell drugs on Tatooine,

you got to come through the Tusker Raiders. Because if you don't, we're going to fuck up your shit and we're going to steal your spice. I think that's a, that's probably the best crime boss move. He's made in this whole type. And I think also,

this is another thing that we're watching through these flashbacks. We're seeing Boba Fett actually transform from bounty hunter to Crime Lord, which is also very important to see when we get back with Boba Fett,

we see that Boba Fett is all of a sudden ready to be the dimo of the whole city, but there has to be a transformation that took place for him to go from capturing and killing for money to actually being a guy who is a crime lord who understands the angles of something

like that. That's why these flashbacks and these deal cutting and all of this stuff that you're seeing, that's why it's very important for us to see because there's been growth in the character that we missed out on. So my question too is Star Wars is very iffy with this. What type of drug

is spice? Is this like a cocaine type thing? Like they just move in bricks, blah, blah, blah. Is this like heroin? Like what type, like What is Spice to the Star Wars world? I have no clue. I've never even seen anybody use Spice. Have we seen anybody?

No. No. Yeah. The only time we've ever seen anybody high in Star Wars is to let you know is in this episode. It's when they put the lizard up his nose. And then he has to go and hang out with Brand by the tree. And, you know, that's the only time we've ever seen anybody. I can't remember seeing anybody else high in Star Wars.

So my question to you then. let's say you're in the Tuscan Raider tent they're like we're going to reward you and then my man gives you a psychedelic lizard to go up your nose are you are you snorting the lizard or are you like, you know what I'm good he had no choice

that what you mean? Like he had no choice. By the way, not cool Tuscan Raiders not cool to just give somebody stuff at a party. Like not cool. The Tuscan Raiders don't have a dare program. They don't like well it's just safety.

You know it could be laced with something They don't know. You don't know. You don't know. Like the Tusker Raiders will be canceled for what they did to Boba. Like not cool at all. Not cool. But, you know, it worked out.

He went and he saw a tree, grabbed a branch, and now he's got a staff. But here's my other thing. If we're going to be real Tuscan Raiders, he could have walked to that tree and got a branch without. I think there's something. I think if you don't get a branch, I think it means something. I think if you don't get a branch, then that might mean that you're not worried. or you can't see it. I took it as like a Harry Potter thing.

You haven't seen Harry Potter. But like, Jomey, I'm assuming you have where like the Wong. I have not seen Harry Potter. That's like one of my fatal, that's one of my flaws. Wow. Yeah. People really don't fuck with Harry Potter. To be, to be clear.

No, I haven't. His parents are Christian and stuff. They weren't letting him watch that shit with witches and shit like that. No, it's not even that. No, it was cool. It was just like by the time, you know, everybody was like, man, Harry Potter. I was watching basketball. You feel me?

I was hooping. You see what I'm saying? I was going to AAU in the summer. You know what I'm saying? Wait, have you seen Lord of the Rings? I saw Lord of the Rings only because I got on Mow's podcast last year and they bullied me. And to watch Lord of the Rings. It was good though.

I loved it. You was playing too much basketball to watch Harry Potter. Yeah, it was who been? Who are you? Fucking Kevin Durant? Dude, I have you. You can't. Wait, hold on.

I'm not hating on you. I'm not hating on you. but you could have snuck in a couple of movies. Nah, man. Then, all right, let's be clear. You haven't seen Harry Potter either, so. Remember, I'm younger than y'all. I was in my 20s when Harry Potter was coming out, bro.

Like, I didn't have time for new shit. By the time, we weren't, like, by the time. You have fucking time for Alec Baldwin-Barre movies, and you have time for a Harry Potter movie. That's before. That's 97. That's before. By the time.

You don't even know. That's 97. By the time, it was time for me to watch those movies. They were already on, um, have blood print. and the Deathly Hallows. It was too late for your boy. I was out on it. But anyway, what I was going to say is I took it as a Harry Potter thing where like

the wand chooses you. I was assuming that you need to take the drug in the lizard because the branch that you choose has some type of like meaning to your journey. And if you don't get the right branch, you probably don't get a staff. Is what I took it as. Work. Okay, cool. That is enough for this episode of the book of Boba Fett.

We have covered it all. you guys fantastic to me. I don't get what you guys say. I loved it. It was great. It was fantastic to me. Van, you're acting like I hated the episode. I said it was a solid episode.

I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to anyone who had something bad to say about the episode. I'm not even talking to you. I'm talking about anybody out there that's got a problem. You know what? Come to me. At Van, you're the problem. Pull up.

Instead of being the solution, you're the problem. Pull up. Because, Van, you get up all here. You'll be like, we can't be capping. We can't be lying about shit. I'm not capping. Don't care. The minute you love some shit.

shit. You're like, fuck everybody. Don't like this shit. Don't, blah, blah, blah. I'm not asking. I'm saying don't cap. I'm glad people out there. But what I'm saying, if you want to talk about problems and stuff, Book of BobaFed, two out of two. Two episodes to me that are 10 out of tens. Literally. Ten out of tens? Perfect. Perfect. This episode

right here was one of the best episodes of television I've seen. Perfect. I love it. Wait, whoa, whoa. What I say love? Best episodes you've seen in terms of what? In terms of whatever? In terms of five, on Twitter at Van Laith and pull up. Fuck out of here. Dog, no, no.

We're not doing that. Best episodes ever. As one of the best episodes, not ever. When I say, we're supposed to people say best episodes of TV, they mean like, in a like a sphere. And what's the sphere? Tell me what the sphere is. The sphere of nowness. The sphere of now. The sphere of now.

The sphere of nowness. Come on. It's what I'm saying. Stop. The cap. Sphere of nounness. No, you know what I love. Because you're backing down already, Van.

You know what? I'm not back and back. I'm not back. I'm not backing down. You know what the best episodes. You know what the two best episodes of television I've ever seen are? Two best episodes of television, three best. Three best episodes of television I've ever seen.

Ever seen. One is from season one on the wire. Okay. When the episode where they kill what's his face. Two is Sanjadapiro. Okay. And then three, the Twilight Zone.

And where does Book of Boba Fett's first two episodes It's not there, okay? So you backtrack it, you backtrack it. I said best of love for Winds and Winter? Winds and Winter is up there or the Battle of the Bastards. Like Windsor like the Winter is up there.

You know, Red Wedding, too. All those episodes are up there. These are all up there. But we should rank our best episodes of TV ever. I personally to me, Sanjured Apparel is the best thing I've ever seen. I'll be honest with you. That I can say soundly.

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Right, got you. DC recast rumors. Lots of rumors circulating around big changes coming from the Flash movie. So the Flash movie is rumored to reset the entire DC universe. Undue Zach Snyder's DC first, the Snyderverse. It seems like it's going to undo the Snyder's not going to be canon anymore. One of the main rumors coming out is Grace Randolph, should I say. uh superman and batman out supergirl and bat girl in here let's read let's read uh grace's uh tweet she said

quote as i told you with update the flash bat flex final appearance old footage of cabal used on tv new new justice league formed supergirl is new superman keaton working with black canary picks back girl as new batman this is the new dc let's be open-minded and give it a fair shot she continues the keaton black Canary backgirl stuff obviously happens in her movie to clarify. Okay. Your thoughts about this. Your thoughts about decanoninizing the Snyderverse, number one, and then potentially replacing Superman and Batman with Supergirl and Bad Girl.

I feel nothing at this point. It's just, I expect nothing, so I just don't get let down. Everybody's getting mad. Like, how could they? And I'm like, guys, if a house is. burning. I'm not surprised when I come back the next day and it's it's it's ashes. And that's all respect. Like to be fair, all respect to everybody involved, we just kind of know what time it is in terms of the Snyderverse of it all. Decanonizing at this point, the Warner higher

ups have already been very, very clear that they don't, they're not going to continue the Snyder verse. Or at least they're not going to rehire him. They're just, that's something that they moved on. from. So if they're decanonizing it, the movies are still out there. You can still watch the movies. It's not like people are, it's not like HBO Max is like, we're taking Batman versus Superman off. It's just, okay, sure, it doesn't, we've known this. The second thing, I have to see it. To be, to be quite clear, Supergirl and Backgirl being the new Superman and Batman, sure, we have a new Batman movie coming out in March. I guess I'm at this point. where I just don't have the energy to really be upset,

Van, is this something where you're just like, when you're ready, you're like, fuck this. I didn't like it, but understand why. So let's talk about the elephant in the room. For a lot of people that criticize this, or are critical of this move, this potential move, this alleged move, they're going to be met with claims of your sex

as you don't want to see Supergirl and bad girl, take over these mantles and be the big deals. Okay. you're going to be seen as the enemy of diversity, the enemy of turning the page, and giving somebody else a shot. Understandable, right? Whenever there's a conversation surrounding this,

we have to talk about the fact that we are trying, we're trying to widen the pond and deepen the pond for everyone to come in and feel represented on screen. And that's an amazing thing, and it definitely should happen. This is the problem with it from just the standpoint, point of storytelling to me.

At some point, D.C. has to get their characters right, right? Before they give you a different dose of a character that has actually less of an actual following, less of a comic backstory in terms of people loving the character. They have to figure out a way to get the characters

right that people already love. Now, if they're saying they can't get those characters right, and they might as well start over with new updated versions of those characters, cool, I'm excited to see it. But the reality is that they keep throwing shit against the wall and hoping that it sticks.

If you're going to reset everything, reset it, start from scratch, go back to the drawing board and build things up slower. Flush these things out on both television and TV. If you're going to try to have an extended universe

where everything is connected, then actually bake it slowly and watch it rise rather than just going to buy the pie from Rouse and putting a bunch of whipped cream and cherries on it and telling us to eat it until we get through the whipped cream and the cherries and we realize that it doesn't taste good.

So to me, like, what I would say is I think this is another idea that potentially has the chance to be better in the headline than it is on the screen. I ask people around me Are you interested in And Batgirl being the new Batman in D.C.? And they're like, no.

You know, now there's a Batman movie coming out, like you said. So that'll probably like, you know, be enough for people to kind of glom on to. I think that the reality is that Batman and Supergirl have traditionally been excuse me, bad girl or supergirl have traditionally been secondary characters

to Batman and Superman. If that change is fine. I have no problem with that. Like, absolutely zero issue with that. That's cool. But once again, I feel like this is kind of D.C. cutting corners.

And I would just have people remember that the best movie to me that's come out of the D.C. EU is the original Wonder Woman. No, I go to the original Wonder Woman movie love the movie. It's the by far the best movie that's coming out of DC.

Wait, so can I ask you this though, then? Sure. I feel like, once again, this is all edge. I don't know if any of this will happen. But the reason I'm like, I'm not even trying to be dismissive of any of this, but also, let's be real. How many times have we been here before with Warner Brothers where they're like, here's our plan for the DC universe, and then the movies don't do

well, and then they pivot. So, let's say this is true, that the Snyder stuff is decanonanized and Supergirl and Backgirl and New Superman and Batman. People still have to go to the back girl movie and it still has to make money for them to go forward with this. Same thing with the Flash, same thing with all these movies.

It's not like a Marvel thing where they have these things in my mind like planned out. We know what's coming. We know what it means. I think people are getting really, do you think people are jumping the gun a little bit because I could see a world where it's like,

bat girl does okay, bat does fine, but then execs are like, eh, like we probably shouldn't do a justice movie. Like, I can see that happening.

Like, we're getting mad about stuff that, to be fair, isn't even green with it yet. True. I mean, you're absolutely right.

I can see a justice of a justice league movie with Supergirl and Bat Girl being fantastic. A Justice League movie with all different types of characters being fantastic,

but it's going to have to be a big, it's going to have to be a good movie. Forget about who you cast in these roles. these roles, which iterations of the characters you cast in this roles, this wasn't the problem. Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck weren't the problem. They weren't the problem. They weren't the problem.

None of that stuff, that wasn't the problem. The problem wasn't that those characters were too old, but the problem was that they didn't bake those characters through enough. Like, Manistiel came out. People didn't love Manistyle as much as they thought they loved Manistil. They fucking panicked.

I mean, but to be fair, I don't think Manif Still was that bad of a movie. Like I actually think there's a lot of enjoyable stuff about Manist. It was fun to watch. It just wasn't very well written. And Superman was to one note. By the time Cavill got his arms around Superman, big arms, by the way.

By the time Cavill got his arms around Superman, they went away from it. Yeah. And so, but he had the opportunity to be a fantastic Superman. By the time you watched the Snyder cut and you saw how he was confident, how he was a little bit, bit. He was lighter. He was whatever. He was, he had figured out his charisma had been unlocked

in the character. He was doing a great job. But he never got a script and they never put stakes behind that character that made you guys care or want to be around Superman. And it doesn't matter who they bring in to be these new characters. If they do the same thing with this, it'll go the same way. But to be, to be fair, though, Warner panics because here's the thing. How long did it take Chris Thamesworth to figure out Thor, to like carry a Thor film by himself and us to be like, oh, this is competing with the Greats. It took him, what, three movies to get Thor Ragnarok and maybe four portrayals of Thor to be like, all right, this dude has finally found his perfect Thor. Henry Cowell wasn't a bad Superman. It just takes these people a long time to play

these iconic characters. But if I'm going to be real and I'll end on this, a Justice League movie, if they were just to replace Superman and Batman with new actors, I honestly think no one would care. Like, I think the general public would be, like, you could have the same Wonder Woman, same Flash, same Aquaman, and it would be like an Aunt Viv situation where it's just like, as long as the other cast is there, you're just kind of like, all right, I guess, yeah, I'm not going to stare too long at it. I think we're overthinking this thing.

Aquaman is super popular, Wonder Woman is super popular. Just make another Justice League movie and just replace Superman and Batman. No one's going to care. Jumby, you got something? Yeah, can you do me a favor real quick? In post, can you put Chief Keefe laughing to the bank? The Sniderverse is dead. And I, for one, could not be more happy to hear that.

They don't eat you up, bro. I don't eat you. I don't care. At Jomey and Denoron, listen, bro, it's been years of clamoring for this, clamoring for that. You got the Snyder cut. You got it. We don't need, we don't need three years of films for Snyder, right? You got Man of Steel, you got Batman versus Superman.

You got Justice League the Snyder cut. It's done. It's dead. That agenda is finished. It's over. Thank God. Oh, I'm, I'm so sick. I'm so sick of the complaining and the crying.

Put it to rest. Thank you, Warner Brothers. Listen, like Charles and Vans have already said, we don't know what's gonna, we're gonna see in this new Justice League movie. If that's what they decide to do, right? It could be good, it could be bad. We don't know.

Ultimately, though, getting the Snyderverse out of here, that works for me. Whatever, whatever it takes, that's good for me. That pack is lit. We're smoking the spider's tonight. I'll let you know what I think. I'll let you know what I think off the podcast, but you know, I'm usually the one who's getting his ass gig,

but like y'all better come for joey because y'all want to cut you from me about this we're smoking the snider verse pack tonight let's go where do you stand uh i didn't hate the snider verse as much as everybody else did but i mean it wasn't done well you know what i mean like who could argue that the snider verse was actually executed well but i didn't i didn't like it as much as everybody i didn't hate it as much to everyone else did i enjoy watching those movies i think those movies gave us a lot of fun times, but it wasn't executed well. I mean, it is also very, very funny that like we're getting to the point where like anytime we're talking about the Snyderverse, it's like everybody starts getting panicking, be like, all right, we like, now they're, they want the black green lantern version of the

movie. And I'm like, guys, guys, right, we got to rock this up. We got to, come on. New Batman trailer, thoughts. Bat and the cat. Bat and the cat. Bat and the cat. One is a bat and one is cat.

We've got to let Van Cook on this one is a bat and one is a cat. Yeah, that song's not it, man. That song was great. By the way, that's the song that played in my mind when I was watching. Bat and the cat, bat and the cat. It's good. I don't know why I'm not super excited for this Batman movie. Really?

Yeah, I'm with Van in terms of like I think it will be a quality movie. It's going to be great. It's going to be really good, but like, I'm not... It's going to be a good movie. I'm not... My issue is not with it. Like, I'm like, yo, that reuse is going to kill it. Like, this is going to be something where I like all the actors in it.

I like the director. I'm just a little Batman down. Or at least in terms of like, I'm a little Batman down of this version. Like, we've got so many dark, greedy Gothones. We've gotten so many tortured Batman's. It's getting to a point where I'm like, I just don't know why my... enthusiasm isn't higher.

It should be because every like it got all of the it's like you know what it's like it's like the Brooklyn Nets. You're like all right, yeah, I get it. If they get a ring cool, but like who's going to be cheering? It's just like, yeah, that's what you were supposed to do. Look, I'm going to see the Batman. Batman's going to be great. The Batman is going to make a lot of money.

It's like, well, I've said it before. It's not enough of a reinvention of the wheel for me to be like, yo, you know what I mean? but seeing him as more of a detective is alluring to me. Yeah, I think that aspect, the fact that like this is, you know, like year one Batman in the sense that like he's very early along in his journey.

Well, he said year two. Matt Reeves to say it's more year two. He's been very much, it's not an origin story. Year two, you know, he's still a young bat. And then all the villains, you know, we have Catwoman, we have Penguin, we have Rital. You know, it's not quite, you know, no way home level, you know, stuff. But still saying all those people, you know, on screen, you know,

different ones of the film would be interesting. They've done that. So, yeah, I know. They've done, they've done multiple villas. They've done that. I know. But in like, you know, this type of Batman. I'm interested to see it.

I'm, I'm with you guys. I'm not, I think I'm a little bit more excited than you guys. Yeah. But not like a. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to see it. I love Batman movies. I'm just at this point, too. Like, DC got a bat. problem. It's the only character they can get right where I'm just like the Flash movie is just the Batman movie. We get in the backer. What do you what do you guys think of? What do you think

of this trailer specifically though, Charles? Did it get you more excited or anything like that? It didn't get me less excited. It definitely didn't get me more. It was just, I was like, okay, yeah, this is the exact movie. I think it's going to be, it's going to be a detective movie with the Riddler and there's going to be a lot of flirting between Batman

and Catwoman. Yeah, that was what I got away from. I was like, oh, she's really going to be in this movie. Like, I thought, you know, She would show up and then, you know, they would flirt for a little bit. And then, you know, she would come back at the end to save it or whatever. But she's going to be in this movie in this movie proper. So, yeah, it'll be nice. Peacemakers coming.

T. H.B.O. Max. Uh, wish I cared about Peacemaker. Jesus Christ. Like, I just, you know, it, I will watch Peacemaker. Look, guys, I'm not down on D.C. I'm not down on D.C. at all. Not at all. I'm not down on D.C. I just, like, Peacemaker, I'm going to watch Peacemaker.

But it's coming pretty soon. You know, it's going to not be like Morbius and actually come out when all of our children are graduating grad school. Morbius will come out not after our kids are graduated high school or college. They'll have to go to graduate. in school, master's degrees.

Like, Jemey, to, like, to, for us to get that movie. But, uh, peacemaker's coming out. Peacemaker expectations. Chuck Holmes. I have no expectations. Like, I'm gonna, my expectation is I will watch this movie. I mean, this TV show. And that's not me saying, like, I think it's going to be bad. I just think it's one of those things, too,

where I'm like, I, I don't know if I needed more peacemaker after the suicide squad. Like, if this was like an Idris Alba joint, I would be a little bit more excited. But so far, I'm just like, all right, I'll tap in, see what the first episode, second episode doing. But yeah, what about you, Jomey?

All the reviews so far are, you know, speaking very highly of it. So I'm interested to see, like, why, you know, they feel that way. So, you know, we'll peep it. I think ultimately it's like all the other, you know, TV shows that we watch, you know, we see how it starts. And, you know, if it's good through the middle and hopefully, lands the ending, right? And so, we'll just, I mean, we're just

have to watch it and see ultimately, but in terms of like, man, peacemaker, I don't know if I'm there. Y'all some DC haters, bro. You also, DC haters. I like John, I like James Gunn. I like John Sina. It's really just like, you know,

if someone was like, man, look at, you know, a show of a random character you saw in a movie for like 30 minutes. You would be like, okay for sure yeah it's the opposite of the dc plus shit where it's just like the dc plus shows it's like oh like we got so many movies of wanda so by the time you get a tv show you're like all right it's her time we want to see it we're invested in this character emotionally we got one movie with peacemaker there's not that connection yet you gotta do more work for me to be like all right yeah so guys don't kill us we're just being honest with you yeah peacemaker's gonna come out

peacemaker's going to be whatever it's going to be. I'm just saying I just don't care about peacemaker right now. And by the way, it's not, we establish surely. There's only so much care that a person has. If you care about everything, you can't care about anything, right? So I'm, so I'm like, you know what I mean? So it's like, there are a lot of good stuff out there right now. Hit Monkey is good.

People like Hit Monkey. The Monke is great. You know what I mean? Like, I'm all about fucking archaic. How can I care about Peacemaker when I'm rewatching Arcane? Yeah. It's like, it's like, you know, when Peacemaker comes out, I'll give Peacemaker its fair shot, but I would be lying if I said I was super excited about fucking Peacemaker.

I make no bones about it. And to be honest with you, I'm super excited about the Flash, super excited. Peacemaker, not so much, not as much. Excited for the Flash. More than Batman. All right, Charles, it's time for us to. Lock in. Lock in.

On this edition of lock in, we are locking in to something that you guys been talking about a lot on the Facebook group. A COBRA Kai. Chuck Wack and take it away. Let's lock in to some

Cobra Kai. I binge watch the entire series over Christmas Thanksgiving. This is a no-spoilers chat. But Van, why aren't you tapped in? Like, why haven't you watched

the latest season, man? Because it's the thing that I do with Kalika, and we haven't gotten around to it yet. We'll probably do it this weekend. Oh, yeah. You cheating on her with Bolivet. I get it. I'm watching it on the slag. I'm saying. But anyway, Cobra Kai season four, I finished it.

You know, I enjoyed it. Coma Kai is my guilty pleasure. Somebody walked up to me and they was just like, Cobra Kai, is it the best TV show ever? I'm like, no. They're like, is it entertaining? I'd be like, ab. It's a fucking Put Cobur Kai in my veins. Okay, once Van watches it, we have agreed off air.

We're going to rank all of the fighters, adults bracket, kids bracket. But you had a special word for it. But how much of a hoe they are? Some of these, there's some characters on Kobe Kai that's straight wusses, man. Straight hoes. Van and I agree on this. Miguel and Robbie, like, don't got the heart for it. The Miguel and Robbie get on my nerves.

I've even seen this season getting my nerves I think the ladies on Cooper Kyle way badass Junior his daughter and Tori Kick it Tori is here for all the shit

That's what I'm talking about But I'm gonna watch it this weekend And then next week we're You know who Tori kind of reminds me of Tori reminds me of like Whoa Vicky or bad baby Like if they talk to karate Because she'd just be like

fucking fucking people should, L.A. Do you need to watch Karate Kid to have to watch Korat Khan? Do you need to have seen all the Karate Kid kids? It definitely helps. I mean, I haven't seen all the Karate Kid movies. I've only seen two of them. I still enjoy this.

And honestly, if we're going to be real, they cut to the old movies so fucking much. At this point, I've seen all of them at least five times because they love their flashbacks. Anyway, I love Kobra Kai. Jomi, you should have it. So you guys are saying I should watch Karate Kid, Karate Kid, Parati Kid part of the two, karate kid part three. No, you just need to watch the urge. If we're good.

Just do this. Watch Karate Kid Part 2. These are going to go by fast, Jeremy. You can come over to the house and we'll watch them together. Watch Karate Kid part three. And then years after that, there's a movie you don't have to watch called the next Karate Kid. You never have to watch that. But that came literally years and years and years after.

When I say years after, I mean like years after. I mean, like the next Karate Kid might have been like 94. It was 94. I looked it up. It was 1994 and it was on like fucking Cinemax or like Showtime all the time as a kid. So yes. It's a long time. So don't even never be crazy for anyone to bring

that movie up when talking about Cobra Kai. Shout out to Hillary Swank. Well, I worked with on the movie. You worked with Hillary Swank? Yeah, yeah. That day. Why did you say like that? Because, man.

What? I worked with Hillary Swank on a movie called The Reaping. That's it. There's nothing more to the story other than that. I didn't hear what you, because you were making noise with your mouth. That didn't really translate the words.

When I really get excited, I got to give things like, Yeah, Daddy. Yeah, dad. You know what I mean? You don't have to, though. It's like a personal choice. Yeah, I do.

I have to do it. Okay, that's a wrap for us. House Vard returns with their deep dive on the book of Boba Fett. That's going to be Friday. Do not miss that. Do not miss their deep dive. Do not miss people talking about

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