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Episode Date: January 12, 2022

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Into the Ringerverse. This is, of course, the Ringer's Nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. We are. Old Man Van, he of the receding hairline, Coke Baby Chuck, the 24-carricloser, Steve, Almond, Joy, the cuddly 22 bear, and Jomey the Explaner at Dinner All right. Together, we are known as the Midnight Boys. Programming reminders, it's Boba time.

Boba Fet time. Boba. Boba, Boba, Boba, Boba, The House of Har will give us their deep dive into chapter three of Boba Fett that is going to be Friday. And be on the lookout next week for us taking a look at the premier episode

of DC's Peacemaker on HBO Max. Now, I've got to say something about Peacemaker here. Peacemaker is something that is kind of dividing the Ring ofverse family. We don't really know about Peacemaker. I'll tell you this is the thing about peacemakers. It's not dividing. the ring of her family. We have questions.

All right. We're not really sure yet. We need the people because we saw y'all started the Reddit, y'all going crazy on Facebook. We need y'all to tell us. If you tell us hey, hey, hey, we excited after you watch a couple episodes. Let us know. We can do it, right? Yeah, and by the way, we hear you guys. There's a lot of other

stuff out there that you guys are interested in. You guys keep talking about Arcane. You guys are interested in Cobra Kai, which I finally seen all of Cobra Kai. Expans. I'm seeing everything. Expans. foundation. I've really been watching the MCU. Let's be

honest. The MCU sucks up a lot of oxygen. Oh, I'll be honest. I've been on a marathon of other TV shows and I'm actually I feel rejuvenated. It's like doing a different workout in the gym. Like you're like, oh, this is what the other side of the world looks like. Yeah, yeah. So maybe

maybe we'll brand the non-MCU stuff that we do. The non-Disney stuff. We need a name for it when we go off script. Because It's not just the M to you. It's Disney right now, because right now we're in Boba Fett.

We need a name. We need a name when we, when we're off to Disney when we're sort of off the map, off the mouse. Yeah, we need to, we need to really name what,

it's almost like we're cheating on Disney a little bit. We have our paramours, you know? Like our wives can't check the phones. You feel me? Because we need to watch Cobra Kai's and Peacemaker. Yeah,

so a little, a little bit, a little bit on the other side, you know what I'm saying? I mean, like, Dallions, yeah. Yeah.

A midnight dalliance. Dallions. A midnight daliants, a midnight affair. A midnight affair. A midnight affair. When we're off of Disney, we're having a midnight affair. We're meeting up with peacemakers, seating motel in South Central L.A,

braving the gang warfare to get locked in with peacemaker, Station 11 or arcane. A little something on the side. What's something on the side? We got phone on for you today, though, because we are diving into episode three of the book of BobaFed. We have some nerd news as well. Okay, we're going to get into a little nerd news.

And we're locking in with Steve. He's going to try to make us watch. What do you want us to watch again, Steve? What is it? You're watching Dread. You're watching Dread this week. And Steve, Steve promised us you'll tell us about a special date. I did not say that.

So, yeah, I did not say that. He absolutely did. So Steve, we're going to lock in with Steve, where Steve is going to make us try to watch Dredd, Dred, which came out a long time ago. It stars Carl Urban, who you guys might know from Chronicles of Riddick or, of course, The Boys, or of course, Star Trek. He is in the Judge Dredge role that St.

St. Sloan had previously occupied. I don't know if you guys ever heard the song by Megadeth, I am the law. Have you ever heard that song? It's a great song. I am the law because in Mega City, I am the law. That's about Judge Dred. Let me tell you.

So let's say something about rock bands because I love rock music, you know? And I noticed that when I would listen to Zeppelin, that they were writing songs about the Lord of the Rings and stuff. And I was thinking, that's what you write about when there's no violence in your neighbor. Oh. Oh, okay.

Think about it. When there's no violence, these dudes are writing songs about the Lord of the Rings, Judge Dread, like in Megacity, I am the Law. Like, it's a great song. I like the song. But think about it. They didn't have to write songs about the mama's being on crack rock and things that. All right.

I'm not going to let you get this takeoff. Lubei Fiasco was a kick pushing for y'all to do that shit. You're rapping about Mortal Kombat and shit. Hold on, hold on. Whoa, wait. That's Lubei Viasco raps about world issues and relevant issues to blackness. and stuff like that. I know, but he also raps about the other shit. All right? Let's not pigeonhole. Let's not pigeonhole our kings and queens.

I'm not pigeonholing anyone. What I'm saying is that there's a whole bunch of things that are on the table for Marvin Gator write a song about. Led Zeppelin is out here talking about Frodo and Sauron and all that stuff. Well, by the way, coming to Amazon pretty soon, we'll have to do that show. That show will be a do. That won't be a midnight affair. All right. Enough with the midnight banter. It's time to get into it. Steve will give us the story later on about how he, went on a very special first date with the lady and they saw a very important movie.

Very important to our time. Steve, Steve, the ally Allman. Steve out here getting it. We're going to show you how much of of Ally Steve is a little later on. But before we do anything, we have to run the spoiler warning

for the reaction podcast. Give it to me, Steve. We're getting ready to talk about Boba Fent. You're listening. to a reaction podcast. The spoilers are coming. All right.

As always, to begin our recap, we have to get you guys dialed into what happened on episode three of the book of BobaFet. And the only way to do that is to turn it over to Cocoa Baby Chuck as he gives you the contents, put you in the know about episode three by doing something we call the Midnight Benefits. All right, episode three, the Streets of Most Epispa, directed by Robert Rodriguez. written by Jean-Feverro. We start during a briefing. 8D8 informs Boba that the three families of Mosespa are waiting to see what type of leader

Boba Phel will be when Lord the Peel, a watermonger from the workers district, interrupts. Peel petitions Boba to punish a gang of cyborks who are stealing his water inventory, but when Boba realizes they don't have any work, he employs the group as his enforcers. Then we flash back to Boba's time with the Tuscan Raiders, While Bova is negotiating a deal in the town with the Pikes from last episode, the Tuskins are murderously murdered by the Nicto gang and killed. In the present, Boba is ambushed by Chupac, and it takes his whole crew to disarm and capture the Black Wookie. The Hutt twins arrived to apologize for the assassination attempt. To inform Boba, they are leaving the planet because they were misled by the mayor and Tatween was really promised to another syndicate.

We think is the Pikes, and they don't want war. The Hut twins give Boba a rancor calf and Chupac as a pardon gift, but Boba frees Chupac instead. And my man, he jogs off into the night. He was asking no questions. Boba visits the rancor and its trainer, played by the legendary Danny Trejo and bonds with the calf before informing the trainer. He wants to learn how to write it. When Boba and Fennick arrived to the mayor's office, a chase ensues with the Major Jomo, who doesn't want to reveal the whereabouts of the mayor, cornered by Boba and his enforcers,

the Major Domo reveals that the mayor is working with the Pikes. And in Porg Platter this week, it's a short one, but a good one. I'm almost positive. I saw Pella Moto and her droids who are from the Mandalorian running in the background. Did you see that too, then? I did see her, yeah. Yeah, so she makes a little small cameo. And last but certainly not least, for people who watch the Clone Wars,

you'll recognize the Rancor trainer mentions the witches of Dathamere. who were able to ride the rancors. And, yeah, those are the Knight Sisters from the Clone Wars. So, super cool. But yeah, let's get into the episode now. I like how you took John Favreau and made him a Frenchman. Jean Favreau. You say Jean, Jean Favreau.

You probably did that. In college, I bet he did that. Because it was already Favro. I am Jean. Denise. Immediately thought, immediate thoughts on this episode, Chuck. A little shorter when this episode, I guess, I bet you guys, bet you guys can guess, I loved it.

I loved it. But Charles, what are your thoughts on it? Shake you, Warrior, man, this episode, who, I don't know if they're firing on all cylinders. This teaches us all a good lesson, you know? Making a pizza. making a pizza seems very, very simple. We all got the same ingredients.

You got dough, you got sauce, you got the cheese. But there's a reason that, you know, you can only go to Lucali's in New York and you can go get dominoes anywhere. It's very, very hard to make a pizza no matter if you have the ingredients. And this episode had all the ingredients, okay? It had Chupac. It had the twins. It had the intrigue.

It had the action. And for some reason, even though it had all those ingredients to make a great piece of pie, when I got it, I was just like, what are, what's happening? What's, what's happening? This is, by the end of the episode, I was like, is this all? Is this it? Where, where's the rest of my episode and my plot? I think, to be honest, I'm scratching my head because we're half the way through.

And I don't necessarily know what Boba wants. I don't know who he's fighting against. There's not really a main antagonist yet. There are so many things left for them to do. And I feel like by episode three, everything should be laid out for us already. We should be going right off, right on tracks, right into the action. So yeah, I was left a little wanting. But Van, you loved it.

So what did you love about it? Steve, can I have Steve Rogers, please? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't play Stop the Cap for me. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Why? Why?

Because Hawkeye had some of the exact, same concern. We were talking about Hawkeye. We were talking about the fact that we don't really know who the big bad is. Sometimes when Hawkeye ends, we're like, that was it, blah, blah, blah. We weren't talking that shit where Hawkeye was going on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I brought up all of these concerns with Hawkeye.

Don't even, don't even do that. But you didn't say, you didn't say these are the reasons why the show isn't working. I think it's time that we address something. I don't think the show isn't working. I'm saying that it's halfway through. And I have concerns that we address your boba. bias. Boba,

Borg. Come. Come. Don't use alliteration on me. I think we need to, it's a formidable weapon, alliteration. Is it not?

It's a formidable weapon. I don't know, I don't know who thought about that. There were some guys sitting there right there. Like, look at that terrible too right now. And then the rest of the villagers went, ooh, terrible too.

When you say it like that, you know, it makes it sound worse. Yeah, this is kind of the way we've been dealing with this in all of these shows, right? They're limited runs. They're not very long. We're not getting 22 episodes.

We talked about this and how are they going to kind of tie all of these things up. And in some shows, not to bring Hawkeye back up, like Hawkeye, we only got our big bad or our medium bad in the last two episodes of the show. I think it's clearly setting up here that the Pikes are going to be probably the big bad of the show. We got three episodes to work them out in terms of what it's going to be between Pike and Bo. But I also think that it's clear that what Boba wants. I think what Boba wants is to, you know, sort of take over most Espa. And what we're seeing week to week is that it's very difficult to do that because of the shadow that Java still casts. All of this stuff is still coming down from how a stronger figure Jabba the Hut was.

And I would say that that makes a lot of sense. is it kind of weird to watch a character that was so badass, fumble around and fuck around with it for a little while? Yeah, it is. It's weird to see an unsure Bubba Fed. It's weird to see a Boba Fett that's a little bit more defanged. It is. Of course it is because the character was very simple before. And now they're bringing out three dimensions to the character.

So it's different. But I've enjoyed it. I love to see people up against big odds trying to put their little family together. You know what I mean? I am loving Boba Fett. And it's clear to me what's happening. But here's the thing. If we want to be real with Hawkeye, take somebody like Echo.

They had a very short time to set up emotionally what drives her. So we would care about her and realize that she's really not a villain. Last episode, I was super, like, excited. I'm like, the twins, the huts. We know what the huts are. We know what they do. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see what drives them.

Why are they here? Why do they care about this? And then they show up in this. next episode and they're like, actually, you know what, peace out. We're not starting a war here. Fuck off. We'll see you later. And as a fan, I was left of like,

then why did you introduce them if they were only going to be on screen for a total of like a minute or two? I don't, it leaves me wanting like, okay, I was here for this. And now you're like, all right, the pikes are the villains. And I'm like, well, why do I care about the pikes?

I don't know them. I don't know what drives them. At least in Hawkeye, I brought up all of the same issues, but we did get a little bit more meat, emotional heft of like, this is why these villains are here standing in everybody's way. We understood that. Right now, I just don't understand that three episodes in to Boba.

Who am I ruining for? This is a crime story. This is about building up a crime family. You know, this is about all, you know, all the machinations that it takes to get your dude together. Because he's weak right now. Boba Fed is weak right now. now. You know, I'm going to stop capable for Boba Fett. You don't like it. That's fine.

I didn't say I didn't like you. That's okay. Don't say I didn't like it. Because here's the thing. Because also, you're capping. Steve, can you play Stop the Cap? Because my man, my man, when you got to the ringer, you had a whole wire podcast talking about some of the greatest what people would call heroes or villains. We know what makes a good villain. We know what makes a good antagonist. All right. Emotions, drive, the things that they are fighting for, we can understand that. Right now, I don't know what any of the antagonists in Boba Fett are fighting for. So don't tell me in some of the greatest gangster movies, crime movies, whatever, TV shows, The Wire, Sopranos, Godfather, we don't know what these people are

fighting for or against. Don't do that. Don't do that, Van. I care about this stuff like you. Cool. What did Barzini want in The Godfather? You don't know. See, that's what I'm telling you. You know, you have no idea what Barzini wanted. The only thing is that you know, You know, you haven't, what did Hyman Roth want in Godfather, too? Now, I know, but I know that you don't know. So the reason is, I'm letting you, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, because you're not like, I'm letting you go. Continue with your, continue with your little, right. So, so what I'm telling you is, it's very important to know what the villains want.

That's what makes for a good villain. But in a situation like this, the reason why building is, like a crime family is more about sort of, the villains in situations like this are really only roadblocks. Okay? The wire is different. The wire is equally, there's no protagonist in the wire.

There's no antagonist in the wire. The cops are both hero and villain. The villains are both hero and villain. I would argue that the protagonist and the antagonist and something like that is depends upon the eye of the viewer. It takes us as the viewer. As society, be like,

hmm, are the bark stales really the villains in this? Or are the cops? or are the cops. Here's my thing. A good crime story always like, because if you look at the godfather, if we take that example, that's another one.

Like, who are the villains of this? Who are the antagonists? Depending upon where you're sitting, it changes. And I'm just saying, I don't know what they're fighting over or for if the huts are literally introduced in the previous episode.

By the end of this episode, they're like, uh, yeah, uh, the mayor promise tatuant to another place and we're leaving. But that's the thing, though. he's fighting for control of an entire city, right?

And so he doesn't know who he's fighting yet. And so we don't really know who he's fighting yet. I love bubble fat. I even love this conversation. I want to bring in the other Midnight Boys. Bring in Jomey. Bring in Steve. Am I wild for thinking that the third episode

was a little bit shakier than the first two? I think a little bit, yeah. I think I think a little bit. I think the pikes were established as the bad guys. Like the twins got out of there because they're like, we don't want beef with the pikes. And we saw last week that the pikes were a problem as well. So to that point, I think it was a little off.

And we got the twins out of there. We know Tupac is out there. You know what I'm saying? So they set up a lot of stuff for the future of, you know, him trying to take over Melsespa. and be the daimio, be the person in charge. The mayor's on the run. I liked it.

I thought it was pretty good. I do think it was a tad shaky because immediately we're told that Boba is now just like the overseer of three families that this city has been split up against because Bifortuna could run this shit. So we just had to be a middle manager for all of them. And then Bib Fortuna was supposed to just answer and line the pockets of the mayor who was supposed to just do that. So like in this span of job.

dying, we're supposed to understand that Jabba's throne or mantle is now kind of severely lessened. And all the while, Boba's still just trying to catch up and figure things out with all of that stuff. You did a pretty good job of explaining it to me

there, Bucco. Like, you did a pretty good job. To me, it made a whole lot of sense. I don't think the thing that I'm arguing is that it doesn't make sense. I'm saying after three episodes, right now, I'm still kind of just left wondering, who cares?

Look, who cares what Boba is fighting for or against? Because there's no force that he's gone up yet against that scares me or makes me, or is the opposite of Boba or is fighting for something that's different than what he wants. You know what the funny thing about that is, though? That's the one nitpick that I have with the show, if there is a nitpick. We'll move on to kind of what's going on here.

But the one nitpick that I have in the show is that they treating Boba Fett like Falcon. I remember at one point in the MCU, Falcon was the only Avenger with a losing record. Just getting waxed. It was like, yo, if we need to establish another character, let's bring them in and let them kick Falcons' fucking ass. Falcon got beat up by Rumlow.

Then Falcon got beat up by Ant Man. In Ant Man's first movie, wasn't even an Avenger yet. It was really think about it There was no other avenger That they would have done that to Amongst the most racist moments In all of Marvel There was not another avenger

That they would have done that too They weren't gonna have Black Widow get beat up They weren't gonna have any of those people beat up They flew Falcon in there The only person that they left Back at the compound To guard the sandwiches basically My man got his ass kicked by Edman

Like he got let Antman whoop his ass Come on. Which Ant man would whoop his ass by the way But we're gonna be real. Boba Fett. But Boba Fett is taking L's left and right too.

Oh, my, like, it was like, he was facing off the Chupac, I'm like, come on. I know Boba got more hands than this, bro. Like, I know we got more hands than this. Boba got beat up by the, by the Force Field 4

in the first of the, the, the night riders of the win. They, like, they beat him up. And then, you know, of course we knew. By the way, we know that his name is Black Cresantin.

We know it. We, we, we, we, we, we, we know, but I'm not saying Black Cresantin. Black Cresantin is cool. Chupac. Shout out to Chupac. Chupac.

Shout out to everybody on the Facebook group that was throwing the name. We like this names. They're Wookie Tupac. Wook Pock. Like, we like these names. These are we like, God came in with Boba and what Boba asked. So if anything,

I think Boba is like, he's really taking a little bit too many else. They're really exposing their play. These first three episodes have been really about playing up the weakness in Bubba Fed. And I think that they're doing that to give him something to overcome maybe a little bit to more your point, Charles, in the last three episodes. So that when he triumphs, it really feels like he won against all life.

Well, you got to remember, he's still sleeping in that tank every night. So he's not 100% there, you know, I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know if that's enough. I don't know if that's enough. Luke Skywalker was in the back to pot, too, and he wasn't taking this many else. What? You got to respect

Chupacca, bro. You were so disgusting when you said that. You were like, Luke was in the tooth. He wouldn't take into any else. Just to let you know, like, this didn't affect Luke Skywalker, like, respect to Boba Fett. Charles, to be honest with you, this is to be honest with you, having some fun with Charles.

These are all things that I read. For some reason, the Boba Fett show is, seems to be a little bit more polarizing among Star Wars fans than some of the other stuff that's come out. It has. Oh, it's split the fandom in a way where I'm like, oh, I did not expect it to be this polarizing.

Because I, like, I probably enjoyed the first two episodes more than a lot of the people who, like, we see y'all on Twitter, they call it a soft. Some people are calling a soft or not going in on Boba a little bit. How am I soft? I love Boba Fett. You guys, I'm being for real. I got to be for real with you. I know why this is.

I like Boba Fett more. than any of this stuff that we've watched. I like Boba Fett as much as anything as we've ever watched. I love Boba Fett. Just TV shows or TV shows and movies. Don't backtrack. Just TV shows. Don't Boba Backtrack.

Because I wasn't thinking about, I wasn't thinking about putting movies in there, so I had to think about it. I was totally thinking about TV shows, so I had to think about it. You like Boba more than Loki? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. It's only three episodes. Fans, we got back to this.

We got to come back to this when it's over. We have to come back to it when it's over. I am a child again with Boba Fett. I don't know. Do you like it better than Spider-Man No Way Home? Come on, man. Come on. It's a movie.

You just want me to say something. You're going to backtracking now. Come on. No. No. Like, stick to your shit. You just want a hot take. I wasn't even thinking about movies when I was comparing.

You just want a hot take. You're like one of these ESPN reporters that asked Nick Saban. Nick, do you love football? So Nick can go. What kind of question is that? I live for this game. All right. I like how we're throwing Boba in front of every B word.

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It's been in a million things. he is the character actor's character actor he plays Lotha Piel who besieches moment to get rid of a street gang that's stealing his water God damn it think about living in a society

where the gangs are stealing water come on Lord of Appeal you know we want these kids to be dehydrated just give them some water I mean son of a bitch To be fair we do live in a society where we have to steal water

So That's very true We don't have to really imagine It's very true all over the world. Very true. Very astute, Charles. I mean, even in the States. True, true, true. You're right. Charles, you're right.

You're right. You're absolutely right. Forgive me for saying that. There's a very elitist thing to say. It's very true. But they later find out that he charges too much for his water. And that is how we meet the cyberpunks. They need their own theme song. This is how we meet them.

We be the cyborg punks of most ESPA. I like to call them Cobra Chi kids of tattooing. I would back off on that. They're the Mighty Morphid Tatooine Rangers. All right. So I was like, no, no, no, no. Jomi, that's giving them too much credit. Y'all don't know what this is.

But my mom used to have to go to Value City and she would get me some VHSs and she would get me like the bootleg power rangers. Like there was like the beetle borgs that, weren't power rangers. They were just like beetle, like there were cyborg beetles. And I was just like, this is, this ain't even power Rangers, bro. Like, when I saw them, I'm like, come on, Bopa.

When he made them their forces, I was like, Boba, I know you could, you could get better soldiers than this, better foot soldiers. Okay, let's talk about them. A lot of people are going to be talking about them in this episode. We're going to do a little midnight, Tally, fall for midnight

boys. Do we like them? No. No. No. Big no. Big no. That's from me. Jomi's team. Go, go tattooing Rangers, man.

I'm it. I'm tapped in. I like the kids. We got to talk about their bikes. The bikes were bad. The bikes were bad. I like the kids. I like the kids.

I like the kids. I do. The Vespa's, come on. The bikes are bad. That did leave a little bit to be desired. For sure. For sure.

Like, that's not Star Wars. That's not like, Van, I'll let you like, did you like the tattooing Rangers? They're okay. I'm going to be honest with you

they're a little colorful for me they're okay and I if they're if they're like as they didn't come across as badass as Lord's Appeal said that they were because they didn't come across as badass I mean they're good for numbers

you need numbers so you go out and get some kids you know what I mean they're good for numbers but they didn't come off as badass to me they were describing the group as cyborks who were enhancing themselves with droid parts I'm like, oh shit, they're about to be badass. Like, all right.

I was like, cool. And then when I see him, like, standing next to the Vesmas, I'm like, this is the gang who's stealing all the water in the workers district that was supposed to be afraid of. It left a little bit to be desired, the black dude with the eye in front of him. Like, I'm sorry, he's looking like Doom Patrol Cyborg. Like, I know Disney guy. What they look like? Remember those that group, the 18s?

Yes. Remember them? And they used to cover Ava songs. and it took me like it literally took me like a year of them being around for me to just realize that they were doing all Abba songs and I was like

so that's your ding your thing is you're a whole group just doing Avasongs and you just do Abba songs think about that. Think about how weird that is but they were around for a while they were cool. They were good. Hold on hold on for a second.

Steve. What? You're an 18s fan? I know, not a fan but like they did good cover. I got to defend Steve right here. You don't like Abba? I like Abba. That's not what I said.

Okay, nobody's talking about Abba. I think that they did good covers of Abba songs. I do. Like, it's a weird thing to be, but like, yeah, I think the covers were good. Steve, have you ever bought an 18s? Hold on for a second. Okay. Have you ever bought an 18th single or 18th record?

No, no. You have any 18s, like, downloaded on your shit? No. No, I remember when they, when I was a kid. They were playing on the radio. And you liked them. Yeah.

You're the first 18s fan I've ever actually met and I'm fascinated with this. Okay. But all right. I'm not, I'm not, Steve,

it's not a disc. You're, you're poking a bit. I'm not, I'm not poking. It's not a, you're poking, you're poking the cuddly bear a little bit.

But I'm learning so much. Steve, Steve loves the 18s and I didn't know, Van, Van, he loves him some lead Zeppelin. Ooh, who, who, who, do I love Zepplin?

Do I love, Love Zeppelin. Woo-hoo. So if you had to give yourself one cyborg or droid body part to enhance yourself, what would it be? Why are you laughing with that moniker laugh? Because it's like, whatever. You know, you know, people are going to say all kinds of, you know, saucy things. But what would it be for you?

Let's not be saucy, okay? No. What would it be for you? What would it be for you? Ooh, I always wanted like a, like a cyborg from the original, Titans cartoon like Blaster. Like one of those armed blasters. Those are so fucking cool.

I don't know what I would be blasting, but wait, wait, wait, ooh. But what I want legs to run faster? No, I'm going to stick with blasters. I'm going to stick with blasters. What about you? So it would be legs for me and I'll tell you why. Because I used to watch, because at first, when I was a kid, there was a, when I was a kid, that was actually before I was born, they had Steve Austin, the $6 million man.

And then they had the Bionic Woman. So when I was coming along, they no longer had the TV show. out, right? Because that had gone off the air, but they had TV specials that they would do. And they would do like the return of the $6 million man. And they would do the bionic woman. And then it would be like the bionic kid or something. And then like Sandra Bullock was in one of them. She was in, she was like a bionic girl or some sort. She was bionic. And I remember this kid, he had got into an accident and he was close to Steve, to Steve Austin. And he goes, will I ever walking in

and see if Austin goes and now you'll run faster than any man has ever run and I was like oh my God this kid doesn't even know what's going on he's about to be bionic or something they made him bionic and then his thing was he could run super fast and I was like after a while

I'm like that's what I would want to do I would be bionic and like run Steve can you drop our new drop for old man van is old. Oh, damn. Who is that kid? Who is that child, Steve?

That's the son of my best friend, J.T. Shout out. Shout out J.T's little kid. That was amazing. J.T. Perfect. Perfect. Respect your elders, J.D. Yo, but I will say you don't want to feel the sand in your feet.

If you have robot feet, you'll never feel like the warm, a warm sheets of a bed. Well, it depends. I don't think these guys can, but I think you can feel it when it makes $6 million a man, cyborg. But that's a good point, though. But these kids, I'm not going to lie, as much as I love this episode, I'm not going to add on these kids totally worked. Nah, come on.

Let me, let's be object. They didn't totally. worked. They didn't totally work. And the large part, some would say they didn't work at all. Some say, some could say that they'd seem like they're in a totally different show. So, yeah, I'm not, I'm not,

I wasn't the hugest fan, but I still think that, you know, I'm interested to see how he uses them. Obviously, it was one of their ranks that spot the pikes later on, and so on and so forth, and so on and so forth. Do you think that when, with the kids, I'm also a little

confused where I'm like, there are so many cool bounty hunters in Star Wars, whether you're going back to legends, whether you're going to the current canon. I'm like, Boba has to have a roster of other bounty hunters. He could just call up. That could have done the job. You wouldn't want to trust a bounty hunter because they're going to be out for the highest bidder. So what you want more than anything in that situation is someone that you can understand

their motives, that you get them a little bit, that's probably not seasoned. and that's hardened as some of your bounty hunters. Remember, he even tells Chupac, you know, be careful who you bounty hunt for and all of that stuff. So he knows that the bounty hunters are a cutthroat gain. These kids are probably a little bit more impressionable. I would rather have them. And, you know.

Fair point. You want young, you want young ends you can mold. You can really ingrain with the soldiers mentality. I got you. All right. So let's talk about the Tuscan flashbacks here. I love the flashbacks. Didn't get as much flashback as I wanted in this episode,

but I still thought it did its part in this episode because it held its weight because it was very, very sad, very impactful. You know, this is when Boba Fett goes, talk to the Pikes, comes back, and his camp of Tuskins has been destroyed, and he has to burn all of his paths. You see that he's obviously got some standing in him because he's now riding on the back of Bacta.

But it's terrible, if I'm going to be honest with you. It's a gutting, gutting scene what Bob was going through with the Tuskans. I know the Tuskins haven't been your exact favorite part, some of these flashbacks of Boba Fed thus far. Did you like an episode, Charles, that maybe had a little bit of less of that than what we've gotten up to this point? I mean, we'll get soon to my favorite part of the episode. So there are parts of the episode that I really did think,

that worked. My thing with the Tuskins, I was left a little confused because I don't know if the show was trying to tell us that all the Tuskins from that tribe have died or just some of them.

Because I was just like, there's no way that they would kill off the Tuskins so fast after we've spent so much time with them. We've kind of emotionally invested in that journey. So, Van,

did you think that they were saying that all of the Tuskins have died or this is just a certain amount of them and the other ones have escaped. Well, I don't think that was all the Tuskins. And I'm not sure about that, but I would imagine the Tuskans to be sort of

spread out amongst different tribes or different clans amongst Tatui. We do know that there are other clans. I was just like, oh, so they killed, I left thinking they killed some of the Tuskins and the rest of them have fled. And he's going to have to. They might have. I'm not sure about that.

I have, be interested to get the other Midnight Boys' opinions on that. I'm not sure about that. What do you guys think? Yeah, I think he killed, or the Speeder gang killed a bunch of them. But we don't know if any survived or any got away, right? That might be something that happens down the line toward the end of the show. But as for right now, we got to just assume that they're all dead and they got them all. I also feel like that's tough to believe because, you know, we see, when we see him in Mandalorian,

he comes up with another, you know, group of Tuscan Raiders, seemingly because he's earned their respect as well. So it has to have been some sort of bleed through if that tribe was entirely wiped out or if some were not wiped out. Also, it's tough to believe that that one speeder gang wiped out that entire tribe because even Boba himself says,

like, we outnumber them vastly. I actually took that part as the Pikes playing Boba where I don't actually think it might have been the gang who did it. I think the Pikes, because they were worried about the Pikes numbers, I could see that being the Pikes and they're blaming it on the Nicto gang, the bike gang. Because, yeah, to your point, Steve, we saw their numbers in the previous episode, and Boba seems very unfazed by them. And to be clear, he dispatched of them very easily.

Beat the shit out of them. He learned a lot of martial arts from the Tuscan Raiders. So I find it hard to believe that they would do that. Yeah. And so that was kind of a thing for me that made that particular scene. like he was in there as one guy and beat really a whole little crew of bikers. So I wonder how many they sent. And I also wonder if maybe they had some help because it didn't seem like that would happen to the Tuskans that we knew.

Or perhaps they were caught off guard. Maybe he got him when they were, you know, Tuscan bathing. And some who knows whatever was going on. Who knows what was happening. But yeah, very, very sad. Very, very sad situation for me. but Charles, are the flashbacks here growing on you in any way? Do you see the point of them in the show?

I mean, I see the point of them. I've always seen the point of them. I definitely do think that that is supposed to be building up the emotional heft of what Boba is fighting for, why he's fighting for this planet. I believe it's the twins who say something to the effect of like, who cares? Like, this planet is a nothing planet. Why are we fighting over this shit? and there's an emotional attachment that Boba has to it.

I just think in this episode, when it came, I was just a little bit like, there's no way that the Tuskins are dead. I didn't even feel sad because I'm just like, they would honor that storyline a little bit better because we've spent 60% of the series so far with them. So, yeah, it was short, so I didn't really care. And then after it, we get my man Chupac,

all eyes on me who coming in yeah Chupac's here fucks Boba up let's be honest gives him the business gives Boba the business

really gives the business to not just Boba but to the Cobra Kai kids it's not until Boba's full crew jumps in that they are able to subdue him the power of

Chupac for me he seems like the baddest ass of all bad asses in this entire show. Am I wrong for thinking that right now? Oh, no, no, no, no. He is formidable. In a way that I was a little bit

when his fight was happening, I wasn't rooting for Boba. I was rooting for Chupac. I'm like, God damn. He opens up the Bokta-a-Pod. He rips Boba out. And the whole time I'm like, Boba, like, can you fight back?

Like, what are, what is happening, bro? Also, didn't have his armor on them. Caught him sleeping. Didn't have his armor on. My thing is, think about the skill of Chupac there. Not only to actually be in the fight, but to slip past all of the guards at that size and catch him at a moment where he is really, really vulnerable when he's like, kind of getting his recharge on. Like, that doesn't just show you that he's a brawler.

He's also got some really refined assassin-type skills to get in there. All right, I took the opposite from that. I was more so like, y'all let this big black wookie sneak into y'all crib. Like, who is guarding this shit, bro? Like, you just got the fucking Power Rangers. Nobody's at the door. Nobody's outside of Boba's. No, no, Charles, they haven't got their morphers yet.

So, you know, they're still learning, you know, how to do the power of your thing. Also, we know that those original, that original gang of guards just sleeps through everything. Yeah, I'm just like, come on, like Boba. Really? Like, you can't even protect home. Like, I can see you walking through the streets and getting caught slipping, but you're at home and nobody is up. Get a ring camera for Christ's sake.

Yeah. You got to have something. Upgrade. By the way, Boba not a very, like a stern leader. How could I say this? Like, he catches you. He'll let you go. He'll put you back in the circulation.

You know, he catches a. assassin, he's not a very, he's not an evil, mean, bad dude. I'm looking for the right word here. Somebody held me with the word. He's not ruthless. Ruthless is the word I'm looking for. Thank you, Jome. He's not a very ruthless crime boss. He, everyone who tries to kill him, he recirculates him. Chupac was out of there. He was running. He was. He was just like, he was. He was he pissed out. But you know what, though? He also probably wasn't used to a situation where he would be released like that. He probably thought, yo, I failed. in my mission,

I'm going to be killed here. Like, there's no way that they'll let me go. I'm going to be killed here. So he probably didn't think that he was going to... Wait, do you think that, uh, Chupac and Bobber are about to team up? At some point, I do. I think they're blood brothers now.

I think Chupac is going to be like, he's like, I have a debt. I owe you a debt. You freed me. Well, you know, I've looked into some of the comic backgrounds on this. And there is some, um, they could call back to that. some precedence to them kind of being joining forces and kind of being on the same side.

Wait, wait, then you tell the, tell the listeners, you went on a little bit of a journey of reading about Black Christanston or a while you say, say, Black Chrysantin, yeah, I wanted to know more about Black Crescenton because I haven't been keeping up with the Star Wars comic book. So learned a little bit about him. He actually did escape. He escaped the Wiki Planet, which was being enslaved after the events. of Revenge of the Sith. They took him. So it's weird that

this brother actually was a slave. Wait, so he was really enslaved after Revenge of the Sith in the comics. Oh shit, I didn't know that. In the comic books. Yeah. And so it gets his way out of that,

becomes a gladiator, and you see him on different, has had a lot of fights. I actually had a fight with Luke Skywalker. Was he given Luke the business? It was going, it was going well for him,

but obviously Luke is Luke. So it's a very rich character that I wasn't really aware of before I started watching this show because I haven't gotten as much into the Star Wars comic book stuff as I should be. There's a lot of stuff out there. So a very, very rich character. And in there, there are some times where he forms alliances with Boba Fett.

So this could be setting him up to come back and maybe be a part of Boba Fett's situation here on most espal. But we'll have to see. The Rancourt comes in. The Hutz Deliour comes in. The huts delivered the rancor to Boba. I like the domestication of a rancourt because I always wondered about that scene

where the rancor is killed and the guy is super upset about it. I'm like, how the fuck would you be upset? The fucking thing was like, you know, whatever. My dad, rest of the soul, my dad would be like, that's his pet. That's his boy. He feed him every day.

He see him every day. That's his man. Another thing about the rancor being gifted is very important to me because the rancor to me, and tell me if I'm going too deep into this, is almost like it's representative of Boba's place right now as a crime boss. It's still a baby.

It still hasn't made its imprint. It still hasn't become the wild, strong, crazy beast that it's going to be. At some point, Boba is not going to need a litter because he's going to be riding around on the back of the rancor. And everybody is going to know that when you see Boba Fett, riding on the back of the fucking rancor, it is time to bend the fucking knee. But we're not to that point yet. The rancor is still a baby. It still has its blinders on.

It doesn't really know. Boba is still as a crime boss, a baby with the blinders on. It doesn't really know. Fighting off all of these things left and right. But when they come together in their strength, that's going to be the triumphant moment of this series when Boba, much like the Queen of Dragons is on the back of the beast that is imprinted on him

and we're taking shit over. Hopefully they don't kill no kids. Van, I'ma keep it real with you. You could take all those metaphors and symbolism to the House of Our working title. They release every Friday, okay? But seriously,

I think that is exactly what is happening. I do think it was beautiful when my man Danny, the legend, was just like, he's like, stand over there. The first person that he sees he's going to emotionally imprint on. And I immediately was like, did Bozeman do that to you, Van? Did he emotionally imprint on you or Kalika? Kalika. Really?

Bozeman, I mean, we all know. Everyone here has been around Bozeman except for you. When Bozeman sees Dad, it's time for fun. Like, when Bozeman sees me, it's like, there's not like, like, Bozeman doesn't listen to me. I could literally be eating a piece of chicken. Bozeman will walk up to me, give me that chicken and snatch that chicken right out of my hand and then run.

And Kalika could be in the other, Kalika could be in the other room. Uh-uh. And he drops it. You know what I mean? Like, whatever. When Bolshe sees me, Bozeman.

Let's see, when Bozeman's over, what does Bozeman do? Oh, my God. Borderline jumps on you. Yeah, he just goes nuts. Yeah, he goes nuts. He just, he loves people. He's six foot three.

He loves people. He likes to have a fun time. He's a dog that's full of life. But when Kalika's around, hey, hey, hey, he listen. So it's definitely hurt. I will say, though, the rancor, I do think it speaks to a lot of Boba's character because Jabal was just like, yo, our rancor is just eating people.

Like, if you cross me, Luke, you're in there. With Boba, he sees this beast, this monster, and he's like, oh, he starts petting it. He's just like, he finds something in that rancor within himself. He's like, damn, I'm a little calf. I'm a little monster. I know you. The baseline of this show is about which leadership style is better, right?

The baseline of this show is, is it better to lead through fear or is it better to lead through respect? And maybe a tiny little splash of love. That's the baseline of this show, right? So his relationship with the rancor as opposed to Jabba's relationship with the rancor. that's actually a very keen observation because Jabba might have not gotten the most out of the rank war that he could get. Sure, the rank war exists as a savage, brutal beast that, you know, everybody will be afraid of and you can make sure that, you know, trouble people into the rank court, pit,

whatever. But could you get more out of the rank war if you actually loved it? If you actually treated it like a bro, could the. Rancor actually do more? And if you treat people with respect and not use fear as your tactic, can you actually get more out of them? Can you actually build a better and stronger crime boss syndicate family with respect than you can with fear?

Because remember, Phenick says fear is easier and it always is. But is it better? we definitely know that respect is harder and isn't worth it. Let's take it one place further. Is the baby rancor a symbol for the planet Tattooing? If you love and cherish this thing, you can get more out of this planet. When he was with the Tuscan Raiders, he realizes, no, there's still water here. You need to dig for it, but there's still water here.

There's still beauty on this planet. When he sees, I don't think they work his characters, but when he sees the workers in the worker district, the Power Rangers, he's just like, there's a better way to go about this world. He easily could have been like, this man, this watermonger is about to pay me, triple what he does, double, triple what he was going to. But it means more to this planet if I give back to the workers.

He's trying to be a worker of the people. He's the Bernie Sanders tattoo. Either that or the rancor is, you know. Just a rancor. Or he's just the planet by the twins. and it's going to end up trying to eat Boba Fed, who knows? Who knows? Maybe the rank war could be lying in wait.

I think, and it goes back to why, you know, Boba Fett lets, you know, initially gives the assassin back to the mayor and then let's, uh, Wiki Tupacco. Because, you know, he's peace past all that. You know, he's living life differently. A regular crime boss would have had both of those dudes killed, you know, as soon as they could, as soon as they were useless to him. But Bob was like, hey, I'm a different type of leader, you know.

Different type of guy. Gentleer, you know, softer. So let them guys go. It's like L.O. Cool, Jay, that song, I'm that type of guy. You guys remember that joint? Man is old. Okay. All right.

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that guy. If there's one character in this show that we all know is the guy that speaks for the guy that you don't want to talk to, you just want to talk to the guy. You know what I mean? I don't want to

I don't need to talk to you. You can't do nothing. You think you can do everything because you think you're that guy. You're not that guy. Get out of the way. Let me go talk to the guy I need to talk to. But the mayor seems to be kind of behind the controls, but at the same time, still being used a little bit. Three episodes in, what do you make of the mayor, Chuck? I don't know. I've gone so back and forth. In the beginning, in the first episode, we're meant to believe that he's this ominous presence. The second episode, I believe it was,

he's like, I'm not behind this shit. You got to figure out who is behind it. And now he's working with the Pikes. So maybe he was playing Boba all along. So it's really hard to tell. It's very hard to tell. Wait, can I ask you this, though? Sure.

There's a big speed chase with the Major Domo where the Vespas, the brightly colored Vespas are put on screen. I thought this was hilarious. I'm just like, what are these Vespas supposed to do with this? Like, they were like, if you notice one of the little cyborg teens was just like, my Vespas faster than yours. Yeah. Guys, these don't put fear in my heart at all. They didn't work.

They didn't work. But be honest with you, the way the Vespa's look, they didn't work. I'm not, I'm not looking at tattooing through bubble effect colored glasses. I got to be honest with the Vespa's didn't work. They weren't fun. They didn't seem dangerous. They didn't seem like they were going very fast. you know what it seemed like

it seemed like the hoverboard chase and Back to the Future 2 complete with him side swiping into something and having something fall in his car exactly it seemed like the hoverboard chase and Back to the Future 2

but the only problem is the hoverboard chase and Back to the Future 2 is way, way better It's cool I wanted a hoverboard I do not want to put the best bar All right. So it didn't really, really work. I've got to be honest about that. Okay.

Those are our amazing, crazy, meandering, instant reaction thoughts to Book of Boba Fett, episode three. Let's get to some nerd news. Eternals has released on Disney Plus today with the release on streaming of the Eternals. is this grounds for a midnight mulligan on this movie should we re-examine what we think what we thought what we thought we knew about the eternals i'm going to be real because uh old man van and uh steve the culli bear are wildin so y'all can pick either you're going to have a mulligan against internals or we're going to do matrix four i cannot keep going back to these films that we did not like that much of what they happened and then be like, whoa, wait, wait, wait, maybe we were rock.

So which one do you think is more important to have a mulligan for? Eternals? Or matrix resurrections. See? I mean, I would want the matrix, but I think there's grounds to, you know, find a bit more silver linings

in the Eternals. I think we found all the silver linings. I think all of the silver linings were found. Here's what I'll say. Let me, let me be, let me be diplomatic about this. No, don't be diplomatic about it. You weren't diplomatic about Zach Snyder. You weren't diplomatic about Snyderverse.

Don't be diplomatic about this. Okay, fair enough. You know what? I'm rolling into my villain arc. Here we go. We can talk about Eternals. I'm shutting down every single Mulligan conversation about Matrix Resurrections.

I'm not letting that happen. We're not doing that. I'm not letting y'all do that. I'm not letting y'all rewrite history. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Here's a great thing about that is that you have absolutely negative 10% power

about whether or not we do it or not. Whoa. No, no, no. Joey explained that's 25% of the Midnight Boyspower. He has 25%. He only needs to know or 25. He only needs one more vote. So he like,

he needs one more vote. So what? Here's the deal. Negative 10% power. So the reality, so the reality is this. This is the reality. The midnight, the midnight, Mulligan is reserved for the most controversial takes that we thought we had.

Let me tell you why I think we should do, we should save the Midnight Mulligan for the Matrix. Let me tell you why. It's not that the Matrix is going to be good. Okay? It's not that the movie is actually good. I don't think that it's good. I do think, though, that the Wachowski's and Warner Brothers assumed in the Matrix, Making these Matrix sequels and making this Matrix sequel, they assumed that people actually understood the first Matrix.

I think we all watched it. I think we watched it well enough to get that like whether or not the movie worked for us or not. But I think story-wise, I don't think a lot of people actually understood the Matrix. If I was to ask people right now, explain to me the six cycles of humanity in the matrix right now, which is an absolutely concrete base level thing you have to get to understand resurrections and to really get into the movie. I don't think most people could. And the reason why is because I couldn't. So the reality is even though the movie, I still think has piss poor fight scenes, is bloated and all of these things. things. It's actually not bloated now. I think that there's some things that I get about the movie

now that I didn't get because I don't think people understand the first major show. We're actually going to do Midnight Mulligan and this is what we're going to do because it's not fair for Joe Me and me to make the final count. I want Van and you, Steve, to make your case. I want you to make the case to Jomey and I. And then we're going to have the Midnight Writers and the Midnight Bob vote on whether your argument makes Matrix Resurrections better. We're going to have a whole segment. I want you all guys to prep.

Okay. And they will go. We can do this. We'll do this later. We'll do this later. We'll do this later. We'll do this later. But I'm proposing right now, not necessarily just a midnight mulligan, let's re-examine

the Matrix Resurrection. I'm already going to tell you right now, it's not going to hit for me. Two reasons. One, if I have to do homework after the fact, it's not a good movie. Like, that's just it. Two, and more importantly, this is Steve's fault. Big Wachowski over here went and had to call Van up and was like, hey, Van, this is what happened? That's literally the opposite of what happened.

No, no, no, wait. Guys, save it for Midnight Mulligan. No, no, no, no. It's big. Just this one? This is Steve's fault. Big Wachowski can't have the movie be me. It can't do it be bad.

No, no, no. Just this one point. Steve, is that what happened? That is not what happened. I called Steve up while Steve was in Chicago. Yes. We talked for 20 minutes. We talked for 20 minutes about the fact that I don't think my assessment of the Matrix

Reserations was fair because I don't think I ever truly grasped and understood the intricacies of the first matrix. Jesus Christ. Not the first one, but the first trilogy. As a minority shareholder in the Midnight Boys, I would also like to put forward that, like, I think that that's a lot of story and lore that we could reexamine and have a good time with. And I think that that's a lot. lot of, it's a rich text.

Jomey's done. Jomey's exhausted. Done, bro. I just don't understand. We all saw the same movie. I know. It's a bad movie. Jomey, give him the chance. Give him the chance. Midnight Mulligan.

Midnight Mulligan. All right. So we'll do it. Let's do it. The audience will vote. The audience will vote on whether Van and Steve makes sense. Here's the other thing. Let's wrap it up with Eternals.

Do you guys think that Eternals being on Disney Plus? People will soften on this movie. Absolutely. Well, I said it at the time. I thought the fans would really enjoy this movie. And I think their response to it being on Disney Plus available for everybody right now is really great. So, yeah, people are like, man, people are like really in the Reddit's going like, why were y'all so mad about this movie? This movie was great.

Because I said this before the pod. If you could just sit, everything to me is better when I sit at home and don't have to pay to watch it. Everything is better. Okay? It's like when your company has like free lunch for the day. I don't care what the free lunch is. It could be the worst pizza. I'm like, I did not pay for this.

This is amazing. So, yeah. I mean, well, you're paying for Disney Plus. So you're paying for something. But anyway. Yeah. Wait, how do you know? Actually, my brother is paying.

The people are paying. My brother is like, paying for Steve. Disney Plus, Steve. All right. We're all not richy rich. Okay. Now, let's talk about other news. The Batman is confirmed PG-13.

You guys told me this was going to be a slick, stylish detective noir in the vein of Chinatown. And it was going to be R-rated with all of that and all of that stuff. No, PG-13 Dark Batman movie is coming. Okay. By the way, to everyone that's listening to this, both Charles and I are very excited to watch Batman when it comes out, okay? Oh, did they get on us? I was seeing them get mad. We're excited to see the Riddler in a hoodie, not really a hoodie,

and a mat whatever it is we're excited Riddler and some Yeezis get up they said that man look like Kanye West he does

he does he does what's like did you guys feel like this movie needed to be rated at all

seriously no we know what Batman is like we know what Batman is to Warner that's like

people being like why is it my Captain America movie rate at all like it's Batman is their crown jewel

this is the movie that they're like this is the one that we want to make the most money he's a hero that gets rebooted constantly.

Would an R-rated movie be cool? Yeah, I would love an R-rated movie. Are we ever going to get that? No, if they're paying millions upon millions of dollars to put a Batman movie in theaters, they are going to make it PG-13 until the end of time because that's just how capitalism works. Am I being an asshole for just being like,

yeah, this was always what they were going to do? No, not at all. The Batman movie has to be asked for a quadrant as possible, and they're already walking the line of it being, and four quadrant with how dark and gritty and all of that stuff it's going to be. But at a certain point, you still want a large chunk of kids, young adults, and whomever to be able to go see a Batman movie, even if you're talking about like, I don't know, your preteens or whatever, and you just can't lose that market share by making the movie

rated on. You can't. Take something like The Peacemaker Show. That is a very, very mature show, like the Suicide Squad was. And you can do that because those are heroes that, to be quite honest, most people don't care about outside of Harley Quinn. So you can do that when it's Batman. They can't have Robert Pattinson running out here, you know,

punching people's lights out, killing people, seeing acid tities everywhere. It's just not, that's not going to happen. Really, be honest with you, they went far enough with how Affleck was just doming people out. Oh, man. Like in Batman versus Superman, just like, I remember watching in the theater, I was like 15. And she was like, what? I said, that's how many people Batman's killed in the last couple of scenes.

Like, Batman's going nuts. Plus with how, you know, theaters are going. You got to sell them tickets, you know what I'm saying? So rated R is not going to make that happen. You got to have a peach of their team. Plus, like, you know, even think about suicide squad, like, that's a whole different, you know, audience. It's a whole different.

I mean, suicide squad being R. Like, I could see Warner being like seeing the ticket returns on that. and be like, man, like, until people can go to the movie theaters again. I don't know if we're doing an R-rated superhero movie anytime soon again, unless it's The Joker 2. Yeah, you can trick parents and have taken their kiss to see, like, a PG-13 rated Batman. Not an R-rated Batman, though. Like, that's not going to be tough.

R-A-R-A's going to be tough. R-Aid is going to be tough. You know, got to get them ticket sales. I ain't mad at your WB. Get your money. Get your money, W.B. Get that money. Because y'all, y'all, I'm sure y'all broke over there.

Hey, hey, relax. They're doing great. We love your WB. Let's get locked in right now. Steve has something that he wants us to watch. He really is. And then he's got a story for us as well. Finally,

the white man going behind bars. Steve. Yeah. All right. I'll keep it quick. Inspired by a tweet that I had out for you guys. Dread starring Carl Urban, Leah Henley,

a.k.a. Cersie Lannister. Domhall Gleason. What? Amazing remake. Way better than it has any other right to be. I don't think I can find anything better in a genre of movies where it's a remake that has no right to exist, but it's way better than it has any right to be.

If I could probably sum up a comp for this, it's the raid with Carl Urban. He plays a futuristic, post-apocalyptic, megacity cop that basically has, is judge, jury, an executioner for any perp that he deems fit. he and his crack team of officers gets caught in a mega-slam. They're on crack? He said that they got a team of crack hands with him. No, no, no, of crack officers, of like a crack team, a great team. Oh, crack team.

Are they on crack? Not a team that does crack. Steve, on the midnight meter, on the midnight meter, what would you grade this? This is an eight. An eight? Yes, this is an eight. Eight on the midnight meter. This is rock solid.

Karl Urban, first of all, you do not see the, upper part of his face. You just see this the entire time. You do not see his full face. And for some reason, he's still acting his ass off. It's great. Action's super fun. Music's cool. Pretty much everything about the story is really fun.

And I can't think of any better 80s action movie remake. That's been better than this. It's really, really good. When you say 80s action movie remake, what movie came out in the 80s? Well, like, there was a time in the early 2010s and onward

where they were like remaking like 80s action films. Like they remade Red Dawn. They remade Robocop. Terrible. Terrible. 21 Jump Street. Good. That's good. Karate Kid.

Uh-huh. Terrible. Miami Vice. Worst than bad. Worst and bad Miami Vice was. Yeah, that was bad. Remember the Hitcher? They remade the Hitcher.

Uh-huh. That wasn't that great. This one's good. I actually do like the Robocop remake, but that's another time. Judge, Judge Dred, but the movie Judge Dread did not come out in the 80s. It came out in the 90s.

In the 90s, excuse me. Well, of that ilk. You know what? Steve, you know what? I will do this. Steve, if you do me one favor, I will watch this movie. Can you do me one favor?

Okay. So guys, listeners, you on the Midnight Boys, you know. Steve, he's down with the cause. He's our B-Rabbit. He is our Fez on Euphoria. All right? He's down with the cause.

And before we started recording, he told us about a special date, a special movie. he saw for the first time on a date, and Van Jomey and I would like him to share this story about a special movie. It's not a story. I have questions.

So Steve, fine. You have a question. What movie did you see on one of your first dates? We saw Selma. Oh, my God. That's what I'm tough about, Steve. The Ava de Verne biopic of Martin Luther King Jr. Set the scene.

How old were you? Where were you at your life? 26. Was she black? Yes. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you.

Let me tell you. Let me tell you. This is the shit that I'm talking about right here. This is the shit that I'm talking about right here. Let me tell you, there are certain people who are activists, and there are certain people that my brother calls sactivists. And that means that they do what they have to do. they do what they have to do

all right until they get these woke ladies into the sack Steve, let me tell you something Steve is looking at movies Steve is

I didn't pick this by the way this was not my pick yeah right Steve let's say you think I want to roll the dice with that no so let me tell you something this is what happens

Steve is looking he's on his phone you know like Dr. Strange he's like ah she's not gonna be into that what can her and I go see? It doesn't. No, she picked this.

She picked that movie. She was a little apprehensive. I will say. She's like, do you want to watch this? Did you make sure like a psycho one little tear just dropped down your cheek and you made sure she saw it and you squeeze her hand real tight and be like, what a tragedy? There was the part where like the FBI rolls up and I like, I like sunk into my chair. I was like so uncomfortable.

You know what Steve probably did? He probably studied. on everything that went down and they put her with factoid during the movie. Yeah, this is, you know, this is inaccurate to the actual story. Yeah, exactly. You know, that's actually not the way that happened. You can see Abernathy, King, all of these guys. This is what was really going on.

There's a great book about it. She probably read, it's called, It's called, she think, like, you know what I'm saying? She thinks she out there, you know, like dealing with one of the wokers of all time. Steve, you're a bad motherfucker. Steve. I love Steve, man. Getting to him.

Martin Luther King Day, really next week, too. That's crazy, Steve. Myrtle the King Day is next week. Next week. I propose that we do a Selma watch alone. Steve. Steve's still got a number? Does she want to come on?

I got a spit game to somebody while watching Selma. Steve, look how proud of you she would be. I only see one white dude here. You know what I'm saying? Like, you like, do you take the thing? Look how. proud she would be, Steve. Wow.

Steve, down for the cause. Selma Steve. Absolutely not. Selma Steve. Selma Steve, the curly won't bear. Wow. Steve is so uncomfortable.

Quick question, though. Selma is an interesting movie to go out a date to. First date, like, unless y'all married, that's wild. Would you like, what do you guys think? Like, would you rather take a date to see Selma? Or would you have taken a date to see Get Out?

I would say Selma. Because Get Out, I can see there being all kinds of feelings after she left Get Out with you, Steve. Oh, yeah. I'm the enemy there. She might be looking at you, like, you wanted to harvest her organs or something. Like, yeah, you can't go. Well, get out, you can't do. Get out, you can't do.

That's an outstanding question, you know, Joe Me. Jomey the question. Steve is coming over. to our house. He was like, it was the fifth day of Kwanza. He's just like celebrate. He got the hoofial.

He's like, what? That's enough. That's enough, guys. Salma Steve, thank you for that story. That's got some miles on it right there. That's a rap force.

If you guys want much more, more maturity, the House of Art will be back with a deep dive on Booba Buffett on Friday. I am absolutely loving Boba Fett. You guys know that. The Midnight Boys love that.

And Charles's idea was the right idea. None of us has the power. to stop or start a topic on this podcast. But you do. You do have the power. You do have the power. So if you want to hear a midnight mulligan on the Matrix Resurrections, whether you liked it or not,

let us know. If not, we'll skip it. And me and Steve will keep it in the group chat. Next Wednesday, we're going to be back to give our reactions on what will probably be another boom-in episode of the book of Boba-Fet cannot wait. And our peacemaker coverage is coming soon. At Ringerverse is on Facebook, IG, and Twitter. And now on Reddit, I see your Reddit.

R slash Riggerverse on Reddit. We love you guys. Whatever you say, that's your form to get off of your opinions. So no holds bar. Keep it going. Join and send questions, ideas, and thoughts. Producer credits. We cannot do this without.

Steve, Selma Steve, Almond, Joy, the cuddily woke bear. Steve Almond. Of course, Jomi, Adiron on socials, hashtag Free Jomi, hashtag promote Jomi. Jomi's doing an amazing job on social media. An additional production by Arjuna Ramgapal and, of course, producer TV. Charles, take us out. Black Lives Matter.

Fighting against racism is all something we need to practice. But my boy, Selma Steve, is the greatest sactivist of me. Got one more thing. I didn't bring it up in the past episode, but I've been seeing rumors out there. So fast forward a minute or two if you don't want to hear these rumors. But I've been seeing rumors out here

that they think that they're going to pull a Mandalorian season two and instead of Luke Skywalker showing up at the age of Skywalker, it's going to be Han. Would you want to see a de-aged Han solo in Book of Bobafith? I'd rather see Kenobi

because I feel like it makes more sense he's on planet he should be on planet he should be on planet or I mean we don't know maybe that's where no he's Kenobi's dead at this point

that man big dead This is after Return of the Jedi Oh shit This is he is dead sorry I edit that out Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Who's dead? Canovo

That Obi won Canoby Yeah he's dead He didn't die in the first Star Wars New Hope You guys what do you guys Are you guys fucking talking about Do you guys sound like

morons right now. This is set after Return of the Jedi. This is set after Return of the Jedi. Obi-1 Canopy is not alive. No, excuse me. This is set after Return of the Sith. No. No, no, no. This is set after the Return of the Jedi. Van.

Keep it in. Man, we're keeping that in. Absolutely. All this days. How can we keep that in when we just took something out for Charles last show? Shut up, Arjuna. Old man, Van Driles. Van is old.

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